412: My Best Moment

On this week's episode, the Sacred Heart staff thinks back on their best moments as healers. In the real world, Donald's enjoying a 1:00 PM night cap and Zach got nominated for a DGA award!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi guys, my friends, happening my friends, Joel, How are you?
I'm good? How are you? I am well? Just checking
on you, Mama, Yeah, yeah, I had um. Donald Nars
was recorded yesterday and I texted early in the morning
to be like, I woke up with a fever and
body aches. You know me, good morning, yo, get tested.

(00:27):
He's like it out of Donald was probably thinking like
can I get COVID over my headphones? My heart immediately
went to the Queen of all things fake doctor's real
friend Joe to make sure, are you okay? How are
you feeling? I'm much better today. I think it was
just I am a person who has an anxiety disorder.

(00:49):
I think I let myself get too stressed. Uh, It's
made me sick before. I've been hospitalized for it before,
so I, you know, use all my toolbox stuff. And
I was like, you know, let me just take a
few hours to calm down and then get back in it.
And so I did, and I felt much better by
like mid afternoon, and no science this morning, So I
think we're good. Still scheduled to test anyway, just to
be safe, but I think we're fine. Is there anything

(01:10):
Donald and I can do to lessen your anxiety. Nope,
y'all are great. Okay, that's me and my therapist thing.
Just I just I know it's a personal thing and
you don't have to share it with the world, but
I'm just but I want you to know that if
there's anything at all that's contributing your anxiety that comes
from Donald and I, we can, we can change it.

(01:33):
That's very Donald could be kinder whoa whoa right out
of the gate. If I'm any kinder, I am stand
and it's dangerous, um, and I'm like, I missed you too.
You know what, man, I'm going to tell you something

(01:54):
right now, budd ahead, the world has been set ablaze
by Megan Arcle and Harry set a place. Dude. I
only I only watched some clips. I didn't watch that, dude.
All I had to hear was the baby's skin color,

(02:15):
and that was a I was like, dude, I don't
give I could care less about everything else. That's the
one thing that I targeted on right away, like wait
to say what, hold on what they said what? Right away? Dude,
right away? I don't know about y'all. Yeah, being suicidal

(02:39):
was definitely a checker for me. That was another one.
That was another one where I was, yeah, that was
really frightening actually to hear her say that she she
was suicidal and wanted to seek an in treatment program somewhere,
and they were like, no, we're sorry. The fact that

(03:00):
that's insane, um, I mean that's crazy. Yeah. The fact
that she recognized it and was like, yo, I need help.
M yeah, and Hart and then they were just like, no,
that was nuts. Tyler Perry gave them shelter. Oh my god,
that was crazy to me. What Tyler Perry gave them shelter. Well,
he freaking put them up for a bit, right, didn't

(03:23):
they stay at his house or something like that? So
when they left, they didn't get anything from the palace,
you know, like they don't have real jobs, and so um.
Luckily Harry's mother left him what amounted to being forty
million after like um and curred costs and all of that,
so they were able to get out of the country.
But then they like couldn't go anywhere immediately. And so

(03:46):
Tyler Perry is like, here's a house, stay in it.
It's mine. Just chill, yeah, back on my feet. The
next step, Tyler was like, I don't even know which
it's one of my mansions. No one's even in it.
It really is an interesting story, if you know, if
they if here's where it gets crazy. They thought this

(04:07):
was the end of it. This is definitely not the
end of it. You know what I mean. Well, they're gonna.
I haven't been following it. You want to be gonna.
They're gonna have to make a statement or something. I'm
dying to know what they're starting. The Palace. The Palace
did make a statement. They made a statement already, and
it was a positive statement from what I was pretty
good wine, yeah, pretty pretty very much like, yeah, well,
at least they're hiding out somewhere nice in Santa Barbara

(04:30):
near Oprah, and forty million should cover a nice sub
style of living for them. Agreed, I'll take I'll take
forty million. They can just chill with their chickens and Oprah.
You give me forty million, I'm gonna what are you
gonna do? We learned you're gonna you're gonna build a submarine,
a submerged that's that's what. That's what like the money

(04:52):
of forever. So with forty million, you wouldn't build like
a small sub like a little pocket sub, like one
of those ones. James Cameron's always looking for shipwrecks. That's
how he drives too. He drives like this. I would,
I would, man. The only guy loves the only thing
that guy loves more than making a giant movie is
finding a shipwreck. His treasure in shipwrecks. That's like his

(05:15):
hobby is like getting in a sub and looking for shipwrecks.
He's probably made more money finding shipwrecks than he did
with any of his movies. And clue, you and I go,
You and I play tennis, You and I go play tennis.
He's like, all right, baby, I'm gonna find a shipwreck sub.
I might want one of those subs. Because if I
said to you, dude, I got a sub, do you
want to go find shipwrecks? You remember mom? Let's go? Yeah, dude,

(05:36):
if you knew how to drive the sub? Do you
remember Octopussy? Of course? Man, it's the best James Bond
movie ever. I don't know if it's the best James
Bond movie when I was a kid. When I was
a kid, that was the best James Bond Why you
know why, brother, Because we're close to the same age
and that movie came out and we were of the
age because I remember it was one of my very

(05:57):
first um, I don't know if it was our one
of my very first movies I attended where I needed
a parent to go with me. Yes, and I didn't
really know James Bond. On't how old I was, but
I was at the age it was when was what
every year? Actually duel? Can you look for me? What
year did For Your Eyes Only? Come out? Sorry? Sorry,
I'm combining two things. I loved octopusy, but the one

(06:18):
I'm talking about is For Your Eyes Only, which was
the first one I saw in the theaters and it
was right see did you ever see? Never Say Never Again? Never?
Never Say Never, Say Never Again? Was the movie that
wasn't officially a James Bond movie, but it was a
James Bond movie. And it was after Sean Connery left

(06:41):
and he came back and played Double O seven one
more time and was the movie was called Never Say
Never Again? Huh. I know the title, but I don't
know if I saw that one. My brother was obsessed with.
It was either Never Say Never or Never Say Never
Again eighty one, so that would made me six. That's
insane to think that I was six years old scene
for your eyes only, but I guess I was. When

(07:02):
did octopusy come out? I'm just like saying, octopus? Are
you drinking? It's my grandmother's favorite word too. What are
you drinking? Though? Uh? Apple juice? I worked out heavy today.
I don't believe you're drinking apple juice. It's a little
early for whiskey though. It's afternoon. It's one. And by

(07:24):
the way, I'm what happened to our health? Kick? It's
one and COVID is retreating and you got already you
got you gotta give up the Tuesday whiskeys, bro. I
got up early this that's some COVID shit we're pulling out.
I got up early this morning. You're drinking red bull
m m yeah. Yeah, you're trying to get high too.

(07:45):
You're want the same shit drinking? Motherfuck? Are you trying
to get high too? I think right, I think red bulls. Okay,
that's right, that's right. You're trying to do it too,
don't trip. This is my funny juice, yeah exactly, this
is my funny juice, exactly exactly. Um, but what were

(08:07):
we talking about? Are you talking about how brilliant Octopussy
one year nineteen eighty three, nineteen eighty three, that's when
I saw that was I think that's my first James
Bond movie. And when I was a kid, I thought
that was so dope, and then people were like, you
should see Moonraker, and I watched Moonraker, like all of
the Roger Moore movies where my introduction into James. Well,

(08:27):
we didn't know as little kids that Roger Moore wasn't
the Jam until our senior, our senior. He was the
second Jam. He was the second Jam. Sean Connery was
the first Jam. He was the second Jam. I think
there was somebody in between them briefly, yeah, yeah, one
one movie, one movie, yeah yeah, but the jam was

(08:49):
those guys. I'll tell you this right now. I think
Timothy Dalton did a great job as James Bond. I
just think some of his movies weren't that good. I
think Pierce Brazen before when Rimington Steel was over, should
have been James Bond. Or when Rimington Steel was after
that one year and it wasn't really that dope and
they didn't go he should have been James Bond back then.

(09:11):
Instead of being James Bond when he was an old man,
you know what I mean. And I think Daniel Craig
by far has the best James Bond movies out of
all of them. Well, of course now they're they're made
with like you know, Sam Mendez with a zillion dollars.
I think they're really fucking great. But Sean Connery, dude,
was was the man and Sean you can't pare anybody, absolutely,

(09:34):
but this was a different type of James. He was
a different type of James Bond. You know. He was
very rough on the ladies. He was you know what
I mean? He was you know, he was very abusive.
When I say rough on the ladies, he would smack
ladies around and hit yeah, I mean you know what
I mean, your life do you mean? In the movies
are in his realm? He would do it. He did it,
and the movies too, Buddy, in the movies too. My
point is I think Daniel Craig has the best ones.

(09:57):
I would love it if James Bond is a number
and a code name and not a person and these
aren't all the same, dude, because I feel like we
might have missed the boat already and this was a
big deal. But I feel like Idris album would have
been the best. James would have been a great James

(10:18):
Bond and and that should have happened and it and
it didn't happen, And well, why do you know that
it won't happen in the future. He's not too old
to play James Bond. Then they weren't going to do that, Yeah,
which was frustrating an African American man. Yeah. And then
they said pretty specifically that they were going to do Idris,
which was like, yea, you're bug You're bugging dude. You

(10:43):
want to talk about you want to talk about box
office appeal to so many people, Idris is a great
you know, we would have more of a fucking box
office appeal than Edriss Elbow Donald motherfucker fath On. No, no, no,
I don't want to no less. To be honest about it,
I think, come on, you need to put that show
on your whiteboard. Star Wars nonsense. You want to be

(11:03):
James motherfucking Bond. You gotta be British to be James
James A day of Shoon Bond, Well, it would be
dope if James Bond was a Nigerian. Uh that moved
to I made that A lot of Nigerians in the UK. Baby,
I'm just putting it out there. A lot of West
Africans out there, y'all. I'm just putting it out there.

(11:25):
We get into this, baby, why don't we count in
box six seven eight about show? We made a lot
of bunch of nurses. The stories so yetto around Yere yeadoo,

(11:45):
around Yere. Funny episode, very fun. I cried at the
end of this episode. I was my removed. My wife
cried at the end of this episode, clutching my pearls.
She who directed this? By the way, who do you think?
Fucking Chris Cotch? The g fucking mc daddy? Wow, he

(12:09):
did such a great job. And who speaking of directing accolades,
did you hear that I'm nominated for Director's Guild of
America Awards? You didn't heard. I did not hear about this.
Through all the emails and texts and stuff that I saw,
I did not hear about this. Turned my key. I

(12:30):
gotta tell you guys, to be sentimental for a second.
I really really really was moved by this. I you know,
for those of you not in the industry, the Director's
Guild of America. The DGA is the union for directors
in both televis directing television and film, and not just
the director as the leader of the film set, but

(12:50):
all of the assistant directors that work with the director
to execute everything. And so it is the ultimate version
of an acknowledgement from your peers. So I certainly didn't
think when I directed the second episode it said last
so that it would have the reaction it did. And
I just assumed, oh, if they nominate Tad last, so
they'll nominate the pilot because it's the first episode. But

(13:12):
my episode sort of kind of showed that the show
would have some heart and emotion and drama and and heartbreak,
and I don't know, I was so I was very
truly shocked. But I haven't haven't been able to wipe
this smile off of my face. I'm so happy about it.
It's so amazing, buddy, It's so amazing, dude. The fact

(13:32):
that your peers are the ones that nominated you too, Yeah,
really awesome, man. And I got really awesome texts from
directors I really love, and just awesome support from from
the community, And yeah, I just I don't know. I'm
very I'm just very proud. I'm so proud. I told you,
I always told you, buddy, you're a really good actor.
But you know what you are, you know what you

(13:53):
do best, you know where you shine best. Because when
you're directing, man, very very very good. It's storytelling. Thank you,
very good at it, and writing too, you shine there too,
very good at storytelling man. And this is a fact.
And I I am so happy that the DGA has
stepped up and said, you know what, Donald Fazon is right,

(14:18):
does tell great stories. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Why it's all ever all I truly ever wanted to
be was a director. I'm so thrilled and blessed. And
it's grateful that I had this acting career, but not
but and to be able to work as a director
and not alone, let alone, have the d GA say, hey,

(14:40):
we chose five directors who we thought made the best
comedy episodes this year and you're one of them. That's
just really fucking cool. And I'm younger me wouldn't even
believe that it happened. So there you go. There it is.
Fairy tales can come true. It could happen to you.
That's if you're young at art. I am young in heart,

(15:01):
Yeah you are. I don't look about turned forty six,
do I look at No? I look like kid. I
remember where Casey turned thirty when she was walking around
telling everybody when we went out that we were forgot.
She was like, I just turned thirty and I looked
like I'm twenty six, So I'm fine. The show is

(15:23):
very funny and very moving, and for those of you
playing along at home, it's episode four twelve, My Best Moment.
And you know the structure of this is the classic
Bill Lawrence structure in which you're there's all these seeds
laid through the episode about the theme being what was

(15:44):
your proudest moment as a doctor? What's one of your
best memories? And we cut lots of people's favorite memories
and then only to find in the end when they
saved the day that this this saving of this one
patient on Christmas has become their favorite moment and they
all tell it from a different perspective, and it was
really moving, you know. Just by the end, I had
goosebumps all over my body, and Donald I cried, my

(16:07):
wife cry, like I wasn't uncontrollably crying. But it was like, wow,
this is I am fucking emotional right now because of this,
and you know, and it has so many I think
what helps is that it has so many funny moments
in it. Like even when we start off, you carrying

(16:28):
JD carrying Turk and talking about and Turk telling him
about how he has to do surgery in front of
the you know, the family members, and how you turned
it into a movie where the white family isn't saying anything,
they're just staring, but the black family is like, Oh,
you're gonna find a tuma back there. I know you're

(16:49):
gonna find a tumba up. Oh that's that tuma. And
then we address and then you go, you go, did
you go to the blood? Did you go to the
Black family? Watching a movie? Staring type in your fantasy?
And I'm like like a beard of honey. Yeah, all right.
I'm gonna say one thing, what I've been to so

(17:10):
many movie theaters before in my life. I'm a connoisseur
of theaters like in Times Square, which is probably quite
an experience. And I grew up in Times Square that
that's my actual neighborhood is Times Square where I grew up,
so I guess that the stereotype has a basis in
reality or not. No, it's real. It's it's true, you know,

(17:32):
it's definitely true. That's it's not a stereotype. This is honestly,
at least, I take it back. I take it back.
It's fact. For at least when I was growing up
and experiencing going in seeing movies in African American UH
communities like the Apollo Theater, like the Apollo Movie Theater
in Harlem and and all of these others. I went

(17:54):
and saw School Days at the Apollo Movie Theater in Harlem.
And let me tell you something right now, when they
were doing step shows, people jumped up from the audience
and there was like this little stage on the side,
and we're doing step shows with school Days and Spike
Lee joined by the way, y'all, we're doing the steps
with the people in the movie, with Laurence Fishburne and
and John Carlo Esposito and and and Titia Campbell and

(18:18):
come and all of these people doing it, you know
what I mean, doing it on screen and in the audience.
It's an experience and it's a lot of fun, and
it's easy. It's easy to make fun of. But I
have a cushion. Do you have to be in the
mood for I mean, I've only I haven't not had
this experience. But I imagine if it was the right movie,
I would be laughing my ass off at people participating

(18:41):
Alliance the wrong movie. I'd be so annoyed. I'd be like,
please shut up, go ahead, I'm just sitting it lake. Listen,
if you're going to a certain movie theater where you
know that's prominent, even if it's a movie where you
shouldn't be doing that. I saw Precious on the South
Side of Chicago. That's not a movie where you're supposed
to react. But would I tell you, like the whole

(19:04):
audience was it like we hear you girl, now, rude? Rude.
Somebody brought Harold's chicken in and so when she goes
to KFC, they were really mom on out. Like also,
dream Girls, which is a movie you absolutely should react at.
It was great, like people singing with Danif it's just
it's it's it's a different way to watch a movie.
So if you're in the mood because you know, i'n't

(19:24):
going to film festivals and stuff, and sometimes you're like
I want to sit and like absorb this movie. This
is a different form of entertainment. It's like you're there
as much to see the movie as you are to
see the audience, and that's what makes it like a
fun experience. I went and saw Back to the Future. Yes,
and let me tell you something right now, I never
laughed so hard at the commentating on how stupid George

(19:48):
McFly is. Dude, this is a guy who goes on
to make millions of dollars after Martis, his son, saves
his freaking marriage, he goes on to make millions. I've
never seen more people freaking laugh at his stupidity in
my life. When freaking he can't put together, when he

(20:09):
finally puts together what the plan is between him and
Marty and freaking what they're gonna do to Lorraine at
the dance, and he's like, you're gonna go and you're
gonna touch her. You're gonna touch her, and somebody in
the audience finally yelled her nipples George, and the whole studio,
the whole audience laughed so hard. I imagine if the

(20:30):
people yelling out shit are genuinely funny. I mean, it's
just I don't know. It's a bizarre I mean, this
is such a like an experience I never had and
I would like to have. But I imagine if the
people who are yelling shit out are funny, then it
would be a good time. It's the best, it's the best.
You gotta be the right movie, though. You got to
pick the right movie because it can be. It can
be any movie. You just have to be in the movie. Now.

(20:52):
It can't be in a movie that you know, a
drama that you want to like get lost in. Right,
don't go to fucking don't go and watch a movie
that she said she watched fress But that works though,
that works for that, that works, man. Look think about it, man.
Tyler Perry has made millions offered plays that really have

(21:13):
great audience participation. It might not be them on the
stage and stuff like that, but they feel like they're
living what's going on stage. Man, And he went and
did it. And the way he did it was he
took it to small venues where he could pack the
audience with African American church people and they can listen

(21:34):
to one the gospel two so they're learning, they're learning
a lesson two. Uh, they can listen to things that
they you know, they can experience situations that they can
relate to. You don't get that when you go to
the movies and you're black and you see all of
these white movies. Man, that's all that's that's all that's
out there. Man. You don't get that shit in real life.

(21:55):
But Tyler Perry provided that and so people. So because
of that, that's why you have these media movies and
stuff like that, because we can relate to stuff like that.
He started something and we were like, oh shit, that's funny.
Now now I want to be as rich as Tyler Perry.
I wish I would have gotten on board back in

(22:15):
the day. I'm sorry I did it us. I wish
I would have not being and not being in this stuff.
But I wish I would. I wish I would. I
wish I would have seen I would have seen. I
wish I would have seen his vision. I wish I
would have I wish I would know. He's employed. Absolutely,
he's employed so many African American actors. It's ridiculous how

(22:38):
many he's employed. Like, he's employed more than Hollywood has.
I'd say, by now you know what I mean He's
put so many people into great positions and now some
of them are movie stars. Real talk, real talk? Am
I wrong? Where's the line? I know? Because I'm so
passionate about this? Now, where's the lie that whiskey? Though?

(23:02):
I never knew that. I never knew you were so
passionate about mister Perry. I just I appreciate what he's
done as an African American actor, and and and not
being able to see all you know what I mean,
like I hear not being able to see people like
me in movies growing up. I appreciate him, and I
think he's a very inspirational story because you know, everyone

(23:24):
was passing on a ship, no one wanted to make it,
no one would give him a dime, and he built
a fucking empire, empire on his own and uh and
and now as his own studio and backlot and and
he's just incredible, incredible inspiration. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, all right,
let's get back to the episode. It's crazy how this

(23:45):
all stemmed from African American people in movie theaters. Man, Listen,
everyone admires how on topic we stay. I laughed when
I'm lecturing these med students. And do you think I'm
giving them medical advice. But no, I'm just telling about
which product of hair moose I use I wrote that

(24:08):
down with the special hair. Yeah. And then they cut
U and I toss him the gel or whatever it is,
and when they cut back to him, his hair is
just perfect like mine, all like it starts off. He
needs a haircut, real bad. I didn't know the gel
trimmed it down to the perfect height. I don't know
what I didn't know. The jail miraculously also gave him

(24:29):
a haircut. But we'll take it. This is the should
we should mention that this is the Christmas episode. Also, yes,
it is a Christmas episode and has a very warm
Christmas message at the end, Um, I'm bragging. What is this?
Bragging about having sex with a grandma? Oh so then
there's this flashback where I'm there's like a what do

(24:50):
you call a guilf a hot grandma? Yes, well yeah,
that's that would be a guilt. Yeah. So there's this
guilf and jd um is bragging that he delivered a baby,
but it's actually Mickhead who did the delivery. Yeah, no,
it was his best moment. That would be laughing at
Danel you never heard guilt before. No, it's just every time,

(25:11):
it's just funny. Yes, a guilt, of course, there are
a lot of young guilts out there, there are. I
don't think i've ever I don't think I've ever encountered
a guilt. I've met several young guilts. I've met women
who I've met women who had kids at a young age,
had or had a kid at a young age, and
then their kid had a kid at a young age,

(25:31):
and that made them a guilt because you look at them,
you were like, oh snap, you a grandma. Right, I'm sure.
I'm sure there's plenty of guilts. I'm sure there's plenty
of guilts. I just don't know that I've met a guilt. Yeah.
Oh really, so you've encountered gilts? Absolutely? Yes, Okay, all right, Daniel,

(26:00):
have you encountered a guilt? But I have encountered a guilty?
You never look. There's there art, There are beautiful women
all around. I don't say they're not beautiful. I'm a
guilt means you want to have sex with that woman,
You desire her sexually, and she's a grandma. That has
not happened to me yet. I'm sure it will. I
look forward to it. There are a lot of young

(26:23):
women out there who are grandma. Just put it out there.
Guilt doesn't have to be a guilt doesn't have to be. Look,
let's put it this way. It's not saying. It's not saying,
but that's a beautiful woman. It's saying, I want to
put my penis in her. Oh, I don't want to
put my penis in That's what fucking guilt stands for.
Ass neck. I thought held on the ils is, you

(26:49):
know you guilph is not? Oh, what a pretty older woman?
Guilt is. I want to lay my peep beside her,
but not on the side. I want to and I
want to drape my peep on her. It has to be. Oh,
I didn't know the end part. That's new when you
write that down, I don't. Okay, I take that back.

(27:13):
I get off this topic. I have not met a guilt. Yeah,
I didn't think. Oh, listen, we're forty six. We're probably
gonna meet some guilts along the way. But I haven't.
I have yet to meet a guilt. I take it back.
I thought we were talking about hot grandma's That's right, alright,
let's get back on topic here, let's get off. Let's

(27:34):
get off. We still want to say we're on the
right topic. That has everything to do with the show.
J D had sex. Oh yeah, and then I do
sort of a victory punch. I don't know what that
was about. Did you see that? I did a little like, yeah, oh,
I know what it is. It's a gift that I've seen.
I'm at the lectern, and the gift of me doing
sort of like a victory punch. Um, I've seen that before,
so that's why I wanted to point it out. I

(27:55):
don't think that's the first time. I don't think that's
the last time you do that either, though. No, but
I mean that particular one. I think there's there's like
Christmas decorations and I'm standing in a lecturn. I've seen
that one before. Like it's like a good gift if
you need to say, like you are using lecturn really well,
I just sort of like the word lecturn. Do you
remember in your school down you like, um, maybe you
were a theater techie geek like I was, but your

(28:17):
school would have that thing, right, it was a it
was a speaker on a cart and then this part
would flip down to make a lecturn and it had
a mic and I was on the AV. This is
how fucking dorky I was, you guys, I was so
proud to be on the AV squad. Now you might
be like, what's an AV squad? Yeah? Do you remember?

(28:39):
When you do? You remember when someone would someone really
fucking cool would roll into your into your classroom, like
a film strip or or one of those machines that
would go BIEP and you'd change the fucking slide, or
or even you know a TV with a VCR. Remember
these people? Oh yeah, that was me. I was part

(29:01):
of the A V team. My hear. That's that's how
badly I wanted to be in a film. I was like, oh,
so I get to wheel, I get to look like
fucking Fonsie wheeling this projector into the classroom. The girls
are going to think I'm so cute, as I thought

(29:22):
it was just because you wanted to get out of class. No, no, no, no, no,
no dude, I thought. I thought when I was setting
up a bit of a V gear that I looked
really cool. I figure, if you said I'm on a
V squad, you could use it to get out of class.
A couple of times, like if your teacher was like
if your teacher was ever like if your teacher was

(29:42):
ever like, mister Braff, you miss class. You could be like, well, oh,
mister Patterson, I had an av assignment I had to
take care of in such and such as class, and
jim or and you could lie and it would take
a while for that lie to catch describing a different child.
I'm telling you that I was like, look, how fucking

(30:04):
cool I'm gonna look wheeling in this VCR. You are
absolutely right, you were a dork. You were a dork,
but it's a specific type of dork. It's like because
I wasn't like a calculus dork. I was a fucking
like theater techie geek door. But that's a good. Okay,
that's good. Remember I'll tell you I've never even told

(30:26):
anyone the story, and maybe it's not even interesting anyone.
But do you remember the old school giant like public
school lighting boards. They weren't know nowadays they're all computers,
but like you know, the giant levers. And I just
thought that was the coolest fucking thing I'd ever seen.
And I would like I would sneak into the theater,
like some kids are cutting class to go smoke cigarettes
behind the fucking school. I was sneak in the theater

(30:48):
and when no one's looking, play with the giant leavers.
I was like yes, I was like, I bring this
giant leaver up in all the lights come up on
the stage like Jay, you know, at William j Oshay

(31:08):
I S forty four. That was the only place where
we had where I've ever experienced an auditorium. After that,
I was in private school and we ain't at the
gym was the auditorium. This was the only time in
public school I US forty four in New York City
on seventy seventh Street. In Amsterdam, I used to sneak
into the freaking auditorium behind the stage and fuck with

(31:32):
the big But there they were only on the stage.
There were none in the audience because the freaking auditorium
was so big, right, the freaking thing is so big.
So there's the projector at the top and of the
of the the big light, the spotlight at the top,
and that's it that one person got to operate. And
then there were alrea these set lights that you could

(31:52):
freaking different colors. I remember this so I go, there'd
be a lever that was like a full stagewash of blue,
and I just be like, eat, this might be the
one thing that we have in common from high school,
I mean from junior I did it in junior high school.
This might be the one thing that we have in
common when I just think it's so funny and I've
never told the story and it's hilarious that you were

(32:14):
doing the same thing. But while other kids were like
cutting class to go do like real like trouble, like
get into trouble, I was like sneaking into the theater
to play with the theater lights. Dude, I was doing
but I was, And I was like, I hope I
don't get caught the fact that we've never had this
conversation before either that I did it as a kid
because my parents were a part of a theater in

(32:35):
the National Black Theater, right uh And they had this
whole lighting system there too, and I used to sit
in the freaking booth and watch the light guy do
the light queues and stuff like that. And there were
times where I would have to be the light que
guy because like you know, there would be uh am,
like they would do stand up nights. So like the

(32:57):
Uptown Comedy Club, all of these things that made it
to television started at my theater that my parents were
a part of when I was growing up, and so
I remember, uh messing having to do the lights there.
And so when I went to school at a very
young age, I thought, I'm so fucking dope because I

(33:19):
can do the lights at the theater. I can do
this shit at the school too. I should you. But
you were enjoying being a light board. Absolutely, that's the best.
We missed out on the thrill of wheeling in a
projector bro. I didn't want to do that. It looks
like the board looks the things look like you're pushing
the Millennium fall. I was waiting for this to circle

(33:45):
around to something Star Wars. The light board handles reminded
you of the Millennium valcum, it did? I do remember that.
That was really cool, man. You know it's funny nowadays,
you know theater lighting is all programmed into a computer
and literally someone just sits there and hits a button
because it's all been pro program And that's fine, it's
twenty twenty one. But there was such an art to
doing it back in the day when you were literally

(34:07):
adjusting different things live on the fly, and it was
kind of like I imagine being a DJ in a
sense that you had to be like at the right
moment this had to happen. Then you had to not
forget to do that and like it was, it was
I don't know, I fucking loved it. Anyway, We're gonna
go a break and when we will talk more about
the television show Scrubs when we come right back and

(34:31):
we're bad and we're bad Todd's I think Todd's storyline
his his. I think the best His is the best one.
I think him and Cox have the best one. Yes,
so Todd Miracle five's a patient back to life. Yes,
in his mind he does, or he thinks. Isn't his
miners at reals? He One thing I understand about all
these memories everyone's having is like they're they're supposedly real stories. Yes,

(34:57):
it has Sarah rides a pony to work. It's not
a fantasy. That's not a fan that. That was very
weird too, Like they literally walk into Sacred Heart Hospital. Yea,
but yeah, she's not even tying off the pony outside
of the ring. No, no, no, no, no, riding it in.
She's riding it inside. She's gonna ride it all the

(35:19):
way to I see you because she has to do
rounds with this pony once she gets to work. I
don't understand. I guess she's gonna do rounds with the pony.
I had a little trouble with the fact that Todd
both Todd High five someone back to life and Sarah
wrote a pony to work as part of her commute,
and they were not fantasies. Yeah, yeah, um, but everybody

(35:44):
Todds was funny. Todd's was very funny, man. Yeah, but
everybody's fantasy was kind of like, like what was Kelsel's.
I mean, what was Kelso's fantasy? He's on the He's
on the all right, he's on the vacation. You know.
It's a funny little tidbit, you know. So um. You know,
sometimes when you're an actor, you're doing the scene, they'll

(36:05):
just be like, all right, before the lines, just we
need you guys to chatter. You know, You're just you're
just shooting the shit and and wait till the camera
lands and then we'll get into the scene. So Ken
in this moment is just chatting up some beautiful ladies
because he's at a retreat for Plomax, the pharmaceutical company.
And what what you hear? Can I'm assuming improvs are
these two women? Is well, I can't do this all

(36:27):
on my own? Really? Is that? What you notice that?
I didn't notice that he couldn't he and there was
three of them too, He could mean yeah, no, no,
I get what he says, but it's it's appropriate because
he's saying I can't do the three of you ladies
by this old man can't do the three of you

(36:48):
ladies on his own. Oh, I didn't even think of that.
I just thought of his like. I don't know if
Bill or someone said, you know, add this line or what,
but it's of all things that he's flirting with, he's
using the pickup line, I can't do this all on
my own because he knows where it's going. Well, that
was very funny, and I love the running gag of
Plomax being like the pharmaceutical, the evil pharmaceutical. It's just

(37:13):
sending as they do, sending doctors on trips to the Caribbean.
I laughed at Elliott being scared of tiny hands. That
very funny. That shot of her looking down at the
tiny hand. That made me laugh. Really, what about Um
Deonte with his dreads? I didn't see Deonta is that? Oh? Yeah?
Deonte Donald stand in slash our friend. Um always makes

(37:37):
cameos here and there, and he was an orderly with
newly discovered beautiful dreads. Oh good for him. Um, what
about the flashback? One of the funniest l ols in
the episode is are you getting Model? Yeah? It was
so well done. It looks like Super eight film, and
it's like you're panning around the room. You're panning around

(38:00):
the room and everyone's making out, everyone's making out, And
then you get to the couch and I'm sitting there
with the most glorious mullet and this girl turns from
her man that she's making boy that she's making out with,
and just sneezes in my face and then comes goes
back to making out. Yeah, and someone's like, mono, I
thought the only way to get that was from kissing.
And they showed the fantasy and they cut back and

(38:22):
I go, no, there there are other ways. This will
pay dividends When Jad has a child wight Uh Elizabeth
Elizabeth Banks in the future, Um, this joke comes back around.
I want to talk about something else. You mean, because
of there was what was it like, there was fire

(38:44):
friendly there? Let's just say there was. I don't remember
there was there was fire in the in the general area,
outer regions or something. That speech is fucking hilarious. I
can remember. I remember laughing so hard trying to trying
to deliver the line. I remember that. I think I'm
saying it to you and Judy, right, and you're it's

(39:04):
all three of us. It's all three of us. You
guys like you guys like yeah, you say you didn't
do to such a How are you telling me you
got her pregnant and you never had any course? Yeah, yeah,
something like that. Um, this is something I want to
talk about. This joke didn't make sense, and this is

(39:24):
the first time it's ever happened. Elliot asks Laverne, what
are you doing this weekend? And Laverne says, minding my
own business? How about you? She wasn't really minding her business.
If she asks what about? What if Elliot's doing? What
was Elliots doing? I think she might be overthinking. I

(39:45):
think she's just being a classic Laverne sassy. But why
did she Okay, I'm just saying, mind in my own business.
If you mind in your own business, you know what
you do after that, you keep it moving real Laverne
is means sometimes Yeah, Elliott was just being friendly, but
so was she. She wound up. It was clear that Laverne,

(40:07):
that's just her thing and that's how she is with
with her friends. Yeah, unless I'm going to see my
nephew play Pip and who's he playing? But I'm not
even doing it right because you got to have the
face of like, how dare you even ask? You think
my nephew is in the ensemble? Right, he's pippin motherfucker pivot.

(40:32):
That was my one of my favorite Alma reads that
she just goes Pip. Oh wait, first, this is the
big one. This is the inaugural it's beard Falset. We
hadn't said beard Face yet either, though I know. This
is his first line. This is his first line. This

(40:54):
is the first time we ever addressed that there's a
character named beard Face. Yes, and then he says no,
it's pronounced beard fasse. And then for the rest of
the show we call him beard Face. It's the stupidest
slash funniest joke. Now, I think we've settled in that
Beard Fusse. Maybe I've had some feedback from people on
my Instagram account because I've I've been really troubled by

(41:16):
the fact that Beard Fesse is so often in the pharmacy.
And someone commented that an anesthesiologist might often be in
the pharmacy but also in and around all of the
other many rooms of the hospital. So and then when
I saw Beard Fasse in your room, I thought, oh,
maybe he's an anesthesiologist. Okay, well, I want to say

(41:40):
this then, if we're going to talk about Beard Fasse.
We once had a trivia conversation, or not a trivia
but we were wondering what Beard Fessse was in. And
I thought it was a James Bond movie and you
and you turned out you turned it turned out to
be a Fincher movie. A Fincher the direct girl with
the drag tattoo. That's still that's still starred the star

(42:04):
of James Bond. Yes, oh, you're probably around. In the
initial conversation, absolutely, and comes back to Daniel Craig. It
all comes back to Daniel Craig. I wonder if Beard
Fasse got to hang out with Daniel Craig or if
he was just like too shy to approach him on them.
I remember exactly where it was too. It's on a plane.

(42:25):
I don't think Beard, I don't think. I don't think
Beard Fasse is that shy in real life. Like I remember,
he was a gregarious fellow. He Remember he was a
very good artist. He was a cartoonist. Okay, he would
draw I believe he he had this thing. I think
it was where he would draw cats in cartoons and

(42:45):
he would call it cattoons instead of cartoons. Oh wow,
you know. And they were good too, Like he was
a good artist. He is a good artist. I still
every now and then talked to Mick Head. Frank, you
should ask him about he talks about has all of
like he listens to the show, and it would be

(43:08):
a great I think it would be a great pleasure
to have him, Frank. Yes, dog Snoop dogg manly, I
think we should have them on the show. Can you
organize that please? We've been talking about that could be
not an episode. We'll be a conversation with background performers
who became foreground performers on the show. Scrubs and we'll

(43:29):
get like the three or four that the core, Deonte
Manly who was Snoop Dogg, M Beard Fact whose name
I forgot. I'm so sorry, Um. And we should try
to get. We should try to get we should try
to get I'll talk to Frank, but we should really
try to talk to Uh Katia, Renee Rabbidu and Deontay

(43:53):
also because they lived the exact same lives that we did,
but it never got filmed. They did the exact same
Just to remind everyone, those were the standings that at
the four of us had and we spent them. They
would have to do all of the walk and talks
and everything that we did, but it never got put
onto film in any way. And they were awesome and

(44:16):
they were an awesome group because we spent all the
time with them and we had so many fucking great
laughs with those people. Yes, I think that would be
really awesome. Well that's another show. Yeah, we could do
an episode that's like a conversation with our standings and
we can bring in um, like you said, Renee Katia
Scott Rabidu, Um and if they and if they turn

(44:37):
out to be and if they turn out to be duds,
then we'd never air them. That's simple, that's simple, they
would be duds. They're funny. I remember laughing our asses
off with those guys. Yeah. I always laugh with Deante.
I laugh a lot with Frank too. How about how
JD comes into the ICU with an ice cream cone? Um,
I mean like like the doctor is coming into the

(44:59):
ice with ice going and then when someone's like, oh,
give me oh, I think it's Judy. She's like, oh,
you brought that for the little boy, and I'm like yeah, sure,
and I give it to him and I go it's
a waffle cone, like so Forloren. So Forloren that I've
given him away my fucking waffle going to a child.

(45:20):
And what's what's what's really crazy is that you're not
Jady's not sympathetic about it either, after he watched the
kid come in with his dad who's sick. You know kids.
Probably the kid probably gave me the idea that I
wanted an ice cream call, that you wanted the ice cream.
And then I'm come into the room off hockey like
I got my ice cream cone, and Judy's like Carla's like,
oh that's so sweet. You got him. I dream going.

(45:40):
I'm like, yeah, it's a waffle cone. Like it's almost
to say like I spent extra money. I spent extra
money for that waffle cone. That was plus fifty cents
for that waffle gone. Oh boy, um um, all right,

(46:01):
we got we got um stealing the old woman's dentures
and wearing them around my neck. That's gross growths. Now,
this weird gum thing, I give you her gum. I
read on scrubs Wiki that there's I guess there's a
deleted scene where we the gum has a totally different storyline,
Like I thought it was something else and it turns

(46:23):
out to be bad taste and gum, and then I
don't know, we changed what the gum was about in
post production. I think, oh, well that you noticed that
the gum has Asian writing on it? Yeah, I did
see that. Apparently there's a deleted scene on one of
the DVDs, which we should We should get into those two.
How funny would it be to look at that shit? Joel, Joel,

(46:43):
we should have an episode called Zack and Donald look
at Deleted Scenes. Okay, I love it, here goes. Hold on,
let me just tell you what this says here. Um,
the denture gum that JD tries to tempt Turk with
has Chinese writing on it. This is explained in a
deleted scene available on the DVD, which show is that
it was originally intended to be what JD thought was
eggnog gum, remember, and he bought it in Chinatown, only

(47:07):
to realize that it was in fact egg gum. That's hilarious.
I wonder why it didn't fly. I don't know, but um,
I want to say, I want to ask this question
to the three of you. Go ahead, because we never
meet this character, but this character has always talked about

(47:31):
Kelso's son. Yeah, who he's definitely and is definitely an
out gay man. Who could have played Kelso's son if
you had to choose Andrew Reynolds. Andrew? Who's Andrew Reynolds? Oh,
Andrew Reynolds. You know Andrew Reynolds? Um, skateboarder? Am I

(47:52):
saying his name right? He was? He was the star
of Book of Mormon, which broke him. Um and uh um,
he's in the prom recently. I know who you're talking
about now, I don't know who. I don't know him
to show you his picture I know who you're talking about.
I don't know his name, though, let me show you
his picture. He's very talented. He was on Girls, he
was in Girls. He was on Girls. This guy, yeah,

(48:15):
I know exactly. His name is Andrew Reynolds. Yeah, Andrews. Yeah. Sorry, sorry,
sorry I heard. I first saw him on Broadway. You
took me to see that show? I did, Yeah, you
took me. Then I seen in my life and then
I this this guy Andrew Reynolds, who I know a
little bit in his a sweetheart, has the sist voice

(48:37):
and is so talented, and you know, I just I
just think he's so talented. That was the first person
that came to mind. We flew to New York because
you were like, we gotta see you were there already,
and you you were like, fly to New York. I
got tickets for this play. I flew to New York
with Casey. This is back when we were making money.
I flew to New York with Casey to watch Book

(48:58):
of Mormon with you and we had a night out
on the town after and everything like that. And it
was it was I think it was like theater appreciation
week and everybody was trying to raise money and so
at the end of the show, after the bow, Josh Gad,
this was my first time being like, let me stop you,
let me stop you. Not in theater bridge they do
this campaign for AIDS. Uh okay, thank you. They fund

(49:21):
raised money for AIDS and it's a certain time every
year the theater community. After the bow, all the shows
compete who can raise the most money for this Aid's
charity and they and they they stop after the bow
and say, Okay, we're gonna come around with buckets. This
is for a great cause. We want to win sy
This is my first this is my first experience of

(49:44):
how cool of a person Josh Gad was. In front
of the whole theater. He campaigns for the money and
he did it in such a great way after this
really freaking funny show. He did it in such a
great way that I wanted to give money uh to
the cause. And so when he did, wish I was

(50:04):
here all like my first time meeting Josh. That was
the one thing I could think about was Wow, this
dude knows how to command a room. And it was
it was I just remember going to see that play
with you because you were like, we have you have
to see this play. It's so good and it was
life changing. Man. It was one of those things where

(50:25):
it was like Broadway could do that. I didn't know
that Broadway could be that because they do some outrageous stuff.
Have you guys seen The Book of Mormon? Daniel, yes, Joel? Yeah?
Did you see it with Josh gadd and Andrew? Yeah?
Unfortunately now I laughed my ass off on that show. Dude.
Let me tell you something. It's rare that you do this.
There's I can name the shows where I went out

(50:46):
and bought the soundtrack right after five guys named Mom
the Book of Mormon, and that's it. Those are really
the only ones that I've ever done it with five
guys named Mo and the Book of Morning, and on Sarafina.
When I saw Sarahina, I would and bought chuck it
your way. And so those are the three. Can you

(51:10):
remember yours? Or did you buy all of them? Oh?
And I bought the Mulan Ruge right after we saw
the Mulan Rug. When we went and saw the Mulan Ruge,
I would have brought that new one too. That shit
is fire, dude, That ship is fire. Listen all ye
you're talking about the theater soundtrack. Yeah, when you went, Yeah,

(51:31):
I went and bought that the next day. I bought
it because of my favorite number. There's two numbers in
it that I love, one freaking chandelier and two royals
to the two best performances in the show. My opinion. Yeah,
that was a great show. I think that might survive COVID.

(51:52):
A lot of people from that show got COVID, didn't they. Yes,
well I am. I'm really uh hoping that Broadway comes
When Broadway comes back, I'm hoping that some of those
big shows are able to survive. In a handful of
them just had to close, and I'm hoping that some
of those ones like that one and are able to survive.

(52:15):
It would be great if Broadway can come back stronger. Yes,
we all, we all miss it. Those of us who
love it miss it, and maybe well, well we need
to support it more than ever. If you're a theater
lover in order to help resuscitate this, this precious industry,
we're all going to have to go see lots of plays,
which I will do. I wanted to say, I got
full body goosebumps at the It's embarrassing that I gave

(52:39):
myself goosebumps, But I did when my character right before
the commercial break goes, why are you sick? There was
just something about it that was goosebumpy. That's good. The
mystery of the mystery of these people who are have
such good intentions, who are just sitting there trying to
solve the mystery like all of these amazing real life

(53:00):
heroes do every day. And I just I don't know.
I found it. I found I was moved by myself.
I have a question, go, did you remember this episode? Um,
anything in this episode at all? Did you remember anything
in this episode at all? Um? Not much. No, I

(53:22):
didn't remember one ounce of this episode, not an ounce
of not not even a smidgeon of it. And that's
why I think, and that's why I think it Like
I thought, we didn't do any more themed episodes like
Christmas or the Thanksgiving or those type of episodes anymore
after the third season. Yeah, I don't really remember. I
think I remember the weird lady with their with their

(53:43):
dentures of seat through the Venetian blinds. I didn't remember
any of it. I think that's why I was so
moved at the end, because it caught me off guard.
Let's talk about how fucking funny it is when Sarah
slams the door on the crying med student. I laughed
out loud, read too. He's giving the little kid a tour,

(54:03):
and she's like, I used to hide in here, and
she opens it up to reveal like the you know,
the brand new med student crying because he's had he's
watched The Death or something. She's like, hang in there,
hanging there, and then she like slams the door closed.
She's like, suck it up. I'm trying. Um and then
um that funny sequence where Cox's favorite memory is the

(54:26):
double himlick. Yeah, that's that. Like I said, the Todd
and Cox have the two best The double himlik is
pretty awesome. And you know the first yeah, you know
who the first time, like was that Jared. Yeah, it
was one of our one of our PA's office pas.
I believe was his job at first. He probably he
probably got I think I think he's an executive now

(54:49):
where he produces shows. I'm sure he does, but back
in the day, he started as an office PA and
then worked his way up. But that's the guy Cox's
first time looking. Then the gum goes into the gum. Yeah,
it was gum goes into a jumps from his mouth
to another random woman's mouth. Then he runs over. He
gives her the Heimlich maneuver, and then that goes into
the garbage swish swish into the basket over the garbage can,

(55:12):
which he's missing when he's shooting it with his hands.
He's missing with the paper, but he does it with
the Heimlich maneuver and the gum. How about when fucking
Sarah is talking to you in French and you go
and your French, I haven't I have a thoughtful tower
and my pants? Yeah, And then she goes, she says
something else, and you just gompla grapefruit. Grapefruit. That's all

(55:34):
you know is that's all you know is I have
an Eiffel tower in my pants and grape fruit. That
was very funny. And then uh, Kelso with a heart.
Kelso has a heart. That was that first of the
first times Kelso has a heart. Not only that, it
was so it was so it was so offsetting that

(55:55):
even Kelso has to comment, it's you know, the person
that he's talking to, this really doctor Kelso. He goes, yes,
that's really doctor Kelso. Yeah, that little kid warms his heart,
and he decides to let his father stay in the
hospital even though he doesn't have insurance. Well, his kid
reminds him how much he loves his son too. You know,
he loves his gay son as much as he makes

(56:15):
fun of his son. Yeah, as much as he makes
fun of him. The little boy reminds him of the goodness.
Make that face of my little puppy so cute. Are
we gonna break? And I'm gonna have a guest. We'll
be right back and we're bad back at fake doctor's

(56:40):
real friends. Let's welcome. Not tell your artis mad clear,
definitely not her name, not Daglia, Madaglia, Madaglia. Let's welcome
to tell you artes Medaglia, Ortiz, Medaglia or tez Ortiz.

(57:05):
What is it the program? Thank you guys, Thank you
Joel for picking me this week. Thank you you made it.
You made it, You made it. By the way, Joel,
has there been any incoming mail so far to the date?

(57:26):
Joel Monique Gmail. Yeah, there's a couple of letters in there.
I haven't opened them yet, so I don't know. You're
you're eyeing, you're eyeing them, Joel, you're just eyeing them right. Well, listen,
I want to remind everyone on the live show, which
is going to happen m March twenty sixth, right, Joel,
that's the date, Yes, March twenty sixth, and um, we're

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gonna have a segment called uh, I want to Date
Joelle Monique and um, if you'd like to apply to
be one of Joelle's suitors, you send an email to
date Joel Monique at gmail dot com. That is correct,
and her name is spelled j O E L L

(58:07):
E m O n I q u E so um
so so slide into her um uh email uh and
write a very romantic and appropriate message and maybe you'll
be selected to be one of the candidates on Date
Joel Monique. But enough of that, Zach, Let's get to Natalia. Okay, Natalia,

(58:28):
how are you welcome? Good Joel, I actually might have
someone for you. He's my my goodness. I gotta put
his hat in the rink because he's just like the
most awesome human being in the world. He loves Star Wars.
I have like movie quote like you know, trivia. How
does he feel about jazz cabbage? He does Joel love

(58:55):
it first Inhale. We've set the bar. So you like
game over, Well, I'm sorry, but down to get you
the first date. Listen, listen. You gotta have some common
there's levels to this. There's levels. We gotta have common interests.
The guys gotta love puppies, star Wars and weed or

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it's or the guy or gal sorry or this is
a non starter. So we just need to know the basics.
And that's how you're saying you may have a candidate.
Well let's get him. Let's get him into the into
the website. I mean, let's get him into the email box.
Give him the email adject. All right, I'm all right, um, Natalia,
do you have a question for us? Go ahead, I

(59:37):
do actually have a couple of questions. You get to
pick one. You get to pick one question. I'm gonna okay,
Well see you don't agree. I'm of the school just
audience that um that we we should The calls are
getting no offense to un tell you, this is before
we met you. The calls are getting a smidge in long,
and we should do one question, and Donalds might be

(59:58):
on the fence and say no, I prefer the two
questions thing, right, Donald, Yeah, Well, we'll let the audience decide.
If the audience says, you know what, guys, you fuck
the whole show up. Go back to two questions. We will,
but natality, you're going to be our pilot program of
one question you're gonna get okay, all right, So I
guess I'll go with the most important one. So I

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love films since I was eight years old. I've been
actually studying it since I was a so like I
studied Steven Spielberg, Kubrick and all these other directors. And
I just have a question for you, Zach, how did you,
uh like, when you first started directing, did you have
like insecurities about it, like when you started, you know,
when you directed Scrubs, where you like, Oh, even though

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I know these people, I'm a little bit, you know,
scared about it. I've insecurities when I direct now and
I've been doing it for a long time. How do
you overcome that? Well? You um? Um. The way I
overcome it, um is being super prepared, being the most
prepared person on the set. I have to know more

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about the script I'm making than anybody else that's there.
And also having the humility to know that you're not
always going to know the answer, that you surround yourself
with a team of people that are your brain trust,
that you can that you can rely on. I can't
do this all on my own, right, So it's about
it's about bringing on a cinematographer who knows way more

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about photography than you do, and bringing on an actor
or an actress who knows way more about acting than
you do, surrounding yourself with amazing people and and and
they're your support system. You're like, I can't you know,
not every shot'll be amazing, but I can't fail with
this cinematographer. Look at his or her work, it's amazing.

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This actress, oh my gosh, she's incredible if she's saying
these words. So so what you do is you you
get the best team together that you possibly can. And
this could go for a big ass movie or a
little short that you're going to make, um you know,
with your with your friends, as you build your your
reel and your resume. It's about bringing on a group
of people that will support you in a in a

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positive way. And this goes for you know, obviously, any
endeavor people take on it doesn't have to do with
just filmmaking. But if you're going to be the leader,
I would say getting to know the material as as
as as well as you possibly can. And then and
then having the humility to when a question comes up,
turning to your team and going, I don't know, does

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anyone else have ideas? And that's all brainstorm together. Do
you know what I mean? Yeah? No, I got it. Yeah,
But insecurity doesn't go away. You know. I'm telling you
like you're always going to I said the other day,
and it's true. I get nervous when I'm dialing in
to do this podcast because I want to do a
good job. I want the show to be fun. I

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want everyone to enjoy it who's listening all around the world.
But then then you sort of you you you channel it,
you just step up and do it. I'm I'm willing
to bet that Lebron James before he plays basketball still
gets nervous. Yeah, I'm willing to bet. I'm willing to
bet anybody I bet. I'm willing to bet any surgeon

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before they going to surgery go into surgery, even though
they've done it several times, still gets a bit nervous.
You know. I think that's I think that's a part
of you know, who we are as humans. I think
that's you know, the fear of failure or the fear
of success can be debilitating something. And the fear of

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the unknown, you know. But yeah, the fear of the
unknown can be debilitating sometimes. And it's up to you, Natalia,
to say, Yo, you know what, I'm gonna step up
and I'm gonna conquer this. Whether I fail or succeed,
I'm still going to give my best. Bet Zach's way

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of doing it. It's perfect. I'm gonna prepare. I'm gonna
prepare as much as I possibly can. Not only am
I going to prepare when I get there, I'm gonna
be willing to accept more information so that I can
get the best from everybody. Yeah, that's a big thing
to do. A lot of people can't do that. A
lot of people feel like because I'm the director, I'm

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the boss, and therefore it's my way or the highway. Yeah.
It never works, it don't. Yeah, I don't find that's
a very effective way to It never really works well
inspire people. You know. As a director, I think one
of the main jobs you have is inspiring people to
do their best work. You know, you don't want a

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set of people phoning it in, like, oh, I gotta
fucking work on Antalis movie this weekend. You want a
group of people that are like, oh shit, did you
reading to tell you a script? It's really good. Yeah,
h what are we shooting? We're gonna shoot in that bridge. Oh,
that's gonna be so frecking cool. You want to surround
yourself with people that they're as stoked as you are
now when you're when you're starting out and you're working
on smaller projects that will be your friends and your
other and your classmates and whoever else is into it,

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and as you get into under the professional world, you
don't want to hire anybody. You want to hire people
that that really are believe in in in your project
and are stoked about it. Doesn't feel like just to
check to them. Of course the check is important, but
they're passionate about it, and they and they want to
and they want to do their best. They're inspired to
do their best. And one of the main jobs of
a filmmaker is to inspire everybody, is to get everyone

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riled up and be a be a cheerleader. Right, I mean, yeah,
I get what you mean. I actually I work as
like a freelance assistant director and also like a COVID
compliance officer. And I've seen so many times like the
director kind of like y'all at the ad or yell
at me, you know, and it's just like, you know,

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I take it as like, Okay, he's he's stressed out,
So I like, I already know my job is, so
I kind of cool him down. Um. But I mean,
I don't want to say it's unpleasant to work there,
because like I understand that like the amun a work
that carries on to them, you know. But it's also
like sometimes it's like, oh, I have to go into this,

(01:06:13):
this guy is well one of the best NAT tell
you one of the best things, one of the best
things I can say that you're already doing that. I
recommend anyone that wants to be a filmmaker is as
soon and as early as you can work on sets
and whatever capacity you know you're working as a COVID
compliance person. I've told everyone on the here before I
was a PA on music videos and commercials, and the

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best education four years at Northwestern Film School didn't teach
me anything compared to what I learned peeing on music
videos at the end of the nineties in Manhattan for
like twenty four hour shifts. That's the education. So I think,
nattell you, since you're an aspiring filmmaker, one of the
things that's going to happen is when you're on these sets,

(01:06:57):
as it happened with Donald and I on scrubs, I
would go, oh, I don't I don't really like the
way that person's talking to the crew. I'm not going
to be like that. I don't really like the way
that that producer is dealing with everyone. When it's my set,
that shit's not going to happen. So you can you're
digesting all of this stuff, and you know, on scrubs
it was amazing. We had a different director every week,

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so I would be like, oh, I love this director.
I learned so much from Ooh this director. I don't
like the way he talks to the actors. I don't
like the way he talks to the DP. I'm gonna
I'm not gonna be like that. So it was all learning,
all learning, learning, learning, and digesting right right, Yeah, definitely
that Actually that helps a lot. Um Thank you, so
look at it, even you're welcome, and even when you
have a shitty day and someone's being a jerk, just

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kind of I mean, obviously, if it's crosses a line,
you fucking report them to HR. But as long as
it's like just some somebody being a jerk on set
in a normal way. People are jerks at any job,
you know, just just look at it, like I'm learning,
I'm digesting. That's not the way I'm going to do
it when I'm running my own sets. You know, just
look at everything as a learning experience. Well. I graduated

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US year in May, um, like I had a COVID graduation,
and like you know, even before, like like working on
my little student phones, I saw the way that people were,
you know, the way the personalities and the way that
they were. Like I'm like, okay, I have to kind
of learn, like kind of learn how to deal with
these personalities. You know. That's how I kind of work

(01:08:22):
with it. And I mean and in my head, I'm like,
oh my god. If I was if I was like
the director and I peeped this, I would have been like, no,
don't don't do this. No I had um, I had
someone who was boom who's you know, booming and like
they were talking in the middle of shooting and I
was just like I had to take them to the
side and be like, I was like, look, I know

(01:08:43):
you don't want to be here, but you know this
is our assignment and you know we kind of have to,
you know, just trying to be uh neutral, you know, um,
not be bossy because it's hard. But but it's hard
because like there's a there's like a lot between being
bossy and being like say it, you know, being a

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what being nice? You have to be a leader. You
have to be a leader at the end of the day. Leader.
A leader isn't always a nice person though too. You
must remember that a leader is somebody who can motivate
people to do what is necessary to fulfill a task. Right.
That's a leader. Right, So you don't necessarily have to

(01:09:32):
be all freaking happy, go lucky to get the task done.
It's preferred that it's that way. But if somebody's having
a problem getting the understanding the message that you are
sending and is not getting the job done, if all
is exhausted, then sometimes you have to be a little

(01:09:53):
bit aggressive with how you explain things that doesn't mean
put your hands on them obviously, but it definitely means
raising boys, and it definitely means being a little bit
of an authoritarian on that parton that Yeah, I think
of it like I think of it sometimes. Um, sometimes
the job is being a coach in a sense that
think of the coach getting the impassioned, stern fucking pep

(01:10:14):
talk at halftime. That's what you call it, right halftime. Yeah,
you got it. You gotta halftime speak, you got it. Yeah.
So so there's times where you, as as a filmmaker,
um Natalia will need to give people that impassioned you know.

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So it gets a little complicated because I'm a woman,
you know, I you know, say something or I give
a command, and to them it's like, oh, she's being emotional,
she's being like bitchy. Like there's always those words that
kind of like float around. And I've experienced on a
set where like I'm I'm you know, I'm I do
grip work too. I'm like, you know, guy, the guys

(01:11:01):
would just be like, oh, you're too delicate for that.
It's okay, you don't have to do that, you know,
And I just I'm just like I could do it
like I couldn't lift school too, So I know I
have a ton of women who are especially you know,
you're very petite, and like petite women are often like
You're like they go to lift something, they're like, oh don't, don't,

(01:11:23):
I got it. No, mother effer, get off of my stuff,
and my job's like order, this is what I'm doing.
You're telling me it took a woman's right situation for
you to freaking say mother effer instead of saying, motherfucker.
Are you kidding me? Right now, all of a sudden,
you're gonna get PC, But now the time to be
as passionate as a motherfucker for a point to the

(01:11:46):
telly this point, you're trying not to swear at these
people because they're your colleagues, right and the Holly. The
best advice I got from a woman on set was like,
remember their names and just do your job. Eventually he
will be in a hiring position, right if you're going
to be the director, you're gonna be approving your cruise,
You're gonna be hiring people. Just remember their names, go
about your business. There's nothing you can do about it

(01:12:07):
if they don't do what you tell them to be like,
all right, well, I'm find someone else to do it.
We have to keep moving. You know, you can't. You
can't force someone to do the work, but you can
absolutely not hire them when it's time to do that.
By the way, I love it when I see female
grips and electrics. That's they're so the most bad ass
ye remembers ever. When they're all geared up with their
tools and their belts, they look like badasses. Yeah. That

(01:12:29):
that and camera operators too, Yeah, fer I love it.
I love it. I'm working on a show right now
that has hired so many women, and it's very diverse,
and I'm really happy to be a part of it,
and and and and so to see that is so

(01:12:51):
fricking awesome because all we're doing is telling stories, and
anybody could tell the story. Am I wrong? Why is
the lie wrong? All right? But in terms of our
all our other genius advice, you're welcome. You're so, you're welcome,
and we wish you luck and please hire us all

(01:13:12):
one day. By the way, this this fan do a
fan art picture of us that Donald and I both
put on our stories and it was a really good drawing,
really talented artist. But then I zoomed in on Donald's
growing and I don't know if it's a crinkle in
the artcurate. It just shows that the artists chose to
give Donald's quite a bulge and did not give any

(01:13:36):
of that attention to my scrubs. Wasn't there a story
about some type of CGI around the growing area of
a young Donald Phazon? From what I heard from Randall,
Randal didn't bring that up. Randon didn't bring that up.
Randon didn't bring that up. Rand say that this artist,
if you zoom in like I did on Donald's area,

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he probably did you? Did you? What's the opposite of
did you dirty? Did you? Did you? But she or
she did me dirty? Yeah? No wrinkle, I got no
wrinkle anyway. Anyway, the movie is this, No Dogs, No Chopper. Oh,

(01:14:25):
this is the best movie ever. Down down Beverly Hills.
That's the late Great the Little Richard, Great Little Richard.
Little Richard plays their neighbor and this Beverly Hills, uh,
you know, neighborhood. And he feels like he's getting treated
like shit because he's black, and uh, no choppers and
the white dogs white, the white family. The white family

(01:14:49):
calls the police, and there's like dogs and choppers and
like a swat team, and little Richard comes out, he
was I had a burglar in my house. There were
no dogs, no chopp do you well have you seen
that movie? I have not seen that. Beverly Hills, Joel,
Joel Hills when you got to watch Down and Now

(01:15:11):
on Beverly Hills, And I remember the dad's Richard Dryfuss
is the father, and he's amazing, and he's made his
money off hangers. And he has this monologue where he's
where he screams at his son. He's his son's being ungrateful.
He's like, it's hangers that clothe you, it's hangers that
feed you. It's an amazing movie. I highly recommend it.

(01:15:34):
I laughed a lot at that movie. And little Richard
it's Bett Midler too, right, Bett Middler, Yeah, Bett Midler
and Richard Richard Dryfuss, Um, Little Richard Richard, the dog
and the dog and the little chopper no stoppers. All right,
you can stay on on the tale because I think

(01:15:56):
we did it. We did the show. We did it.
We totally did it. Um. Don't forget to email Joel
if you want to be a contestant on day Joel,
and don't forget to buy a ticket to the live show,
which is March twenty sixth. Where do they go, Juell
to buy a ticket? Oh boy, I want to remember
this because it's such a difficult way to say it. Okay,
you gotta make it simpler on location Live doctor too much?

(01:16:17):
Can it be like fake Doctor's live show? Is there
a way we can make it so that take this
type fake Doctor's live show, and that's how to give
I'm sure if you google that it will pop up.
But the address is on locationlive dot com, slash product
slash Fake Doctor's Real Friends. That's a lot. Okay, listen,
it is, but I put it in the show notes
what it is every episode? Well, can't you do like

(01:16:38):
a link tree thing? Can't you do like a bite
or something? Okay, listen, I will put a link tree
on my Instagram so you guys can find it. We'll
put links on our Instagram, Joel, send us links to
put on our Instagram headers. All right, everybody, we love
thanks for coming on. And we made about a bunch

(01:17:02):
of doctor nurses and a janitor who little bit I said,
he just stories nephews should go. So gather around you
here are gather around you here irexpect free watch your
wins a time no, mm hmmm