601: My Mirror Image

On this week's episode, JD tries to process his new reality as a father. In the real world, we're joined by writer Tim Hobert! He's an old friend of Bill's and he wrote this episode.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
There he is. Wow, Oh my goodness, today audience, we
have a very very very fair How are you still
so thin? How is this possible? How is this possible
that you are still as felt young looking man. I
have an IV in my arm right now. I don't
know if you guys can see what happened. Oh no,

(00:20):
I have. I was a bit dehydrated and so needed
to get an I V in order to get back
to one. Water doesn't always work. Water doesn't always work,
you know, Tim, you know about those. You can go
to a place, or you can even pay more and
have them come your home. I'm sure if you don't
live in La, they probably have this in a city

(00:41):
near you. But you can go get fluids, you can
go get hydrated, you get vitamins. If you're super hungover,
you can go get a hangover can cor Yeah, yeah, yeah,
there's one of those right up near my house. Yeah.
Do you deliver? Use it? I do it all though
I don't. I don't. I don't do it when I
when I feel a cold coming on and I get
I go oh no, oh no not now not now,

(01:02):
I go and they give you like they've just blast
you with vitamins. It feels right. So Zach and I
have something coming up that we have to take care of,
and I'm trying to get like, I'm gonna tell you something. Tim.
I don't know about you, but I don't work out
like I used to. You look good. I'm sorry. Pause
one second. This is Tim Holbert. Everybody. We were on

(01:26):
season six. We now we're really up in the game
with fancy guests. Tim was Tim was one of the
best writers on Scrubs, and he is one of Bill's
best friends, and um, he's just an all around great guy.
And I didn't want to even bother Tim to come
on the show until I heard through the grape vine.

(01:46):
But Tim actually is a fan of the podcast. They
wanted to come on. Tim tell us how great we are? Well,
let me tell you and I wrote some stuff down this.
I learned about this. You know, I'm not very technical,
so I don't do a lot of like things on
my phone. But I learned about this during the pandemic

(02:06):
and I started listening to it and it brought me
on Bridal Joy. You guys, you guys like I can't
wait to see what the I know you're talking about.
What the next podcast is going to be and I'm
I'm enjoying the ship talk with the New Girl podcast
as well. Yeah, well we get you know, I also
follow our Sorry Daniel, did you meet Tim? That's Daniel.

(02:30):
Indeed we had a nice conversation before everybody got into
wanted to make sure that Tim was set up to
h to report. But pleasure, pleasure to meet you again, Tim, Tim.
Very few of our guests, and I would introduce Joel,
but I don't see her. She may have checked out
for Sorry, I'm here just Tim, Um. Tim, You're one
of the first guests. I just want to give you
a comment. Who's ever figured out sounding good right off

(02:53):
the bat, you don't seem to be having any you
know from the show that Sarah is the worst culprit.
You are you are really and getting an eight plus
so far. Also, Gabby fucked it up eight ways to something.
Oh Gabby didn't Gabby. Gabby lied that she'd ever She
didn't watch She never watched it. She didn't even know
what she was coming on to do. I mean, had
no clue. She wrote the episode and she didn't watch it.

(03:15):
And Zach, you said something very funny which I was
listening to. You had the British people on. They were
telling a story about how one of them love Scrubs
and she had never seen the show, and you said,
that's okay, neither has Gabby. You guys mercilessly just killed her. Well,
it was very uncomfortable. It's hard to do the show.

(03:36):
And I assumed that, not only since you're a fan
of the podcast and you wrote the fucking episode, that
you might take the time to review it. And it's
known as the Gabby example. Now, yes, Gabby said the example.
You know, by the way, I think Gabby may have
indirectly made Donald and I not want to have writers
on it because well, also at the end of the show,
you were talking to that couple from England that were

(03:58):
both doctors, and you were talking about how medical marijuana
is legal in England, and Gabby just screams out and abortion,
you can get an abortion, and Zach, you go, you go.
I'd personally rather smoke weed, but you do your thing. Gabby.

(04:23):
I'm telling you, guys, that guy's funny. Tim, I have
swee have so much talking about um. Donald don't even
want to begin with Tim. It's so I'm so excited
you're here. Okay, so I have a bunch of questions.
I have to ask him. One, what year did you
join us? Season two? Season three? Here's my thing, I
only joined season two of Neil Flynn shows. So I

(04:45):
got on season two of Scrubs in season two of
the Middle. Wow, that's your specialty, because Neil Flyn's not. Yes,
he has to get a show and have to wait
a year. Wait, weren't you working on Psycho a little bit? Also? No,
that's Callahan. Callahan, you're mixing up your white writers. They
you're white, you're white, non you're white non Jewish comment writers.

(05:08):
There's drinking. We fight and fight and then really fight.
Are hey? So you have around in that in that
Latrican outfit singing. That was one of my favorite memories
of Scrubs. That was I mean, you were running around
in a Leafrican outfit, going way drinking. We fight and
we fighted and drinked Tim, then we fight some more.
We joined season two, And we should mention very importantly

(05:32):
that Mike Hobert, Tim's little brother is Lonnie Delivery on
the Pizza delivery Guy, one of the very few human
beings um to play two different characters on top Unless
you know you heard this to him. We debated whether
Lonnie had then gone on to medical school. Oh yes,
pizza delivery pilot screen that's gotta be on Scrubs Wiki

(05:55):
that he was in the pilot as a pizza delivery guy.
It is it is. We disgusted and Donald and I.
I said, is he one of the only people in
Scrubs history to play two different characters? Or did Lonnie
the pizza sorry, did the pizza delivery guy from the
pilot go off and go to med school and become funny? Yeah?
I mean they're both possible. I mean I love listening
to you guys deconstruct the way this shit happens. Well,

(06:16):
we're about to do it with your episode. But wait,
I wanted to ask you, yea, when when did you
leave us to do the middle? So I wrote the
first episode of season six, and then I went off
to develop um and then I ran that Brad Garrett
show for a year, and then I went to It
was like it was called till Death, which was a

(06:36):
good Uh it was. It was very apropos because he
almost only went one year. I know it went one
hundred episodes, but he tortured me. Oh you didn't have
a good experience. Yeah, yeah, freaking that that commercial with
him and Tommy John what he was super nice, like
he gave me like a Brett far football, but then

(06:59):
he would just torture me. Oh no, that's not a
good working environment. No one was. Um, so you regretted,
regretted leaving that. I like that. And then you know
what happens for those of you not in the business
is a writer will get hot and they're on a
hot show and then their contract is up, and it's
like it's like a sports analogy. Donald. They they're a

(07:21):
contract is up, and they can and they're in demand
for other teams. Yes, I've noticed that some writers don't
even finish the gig. They'll get like halfway through and
if it looks like the shows either on the bubble
and and they don't know what it's gonna do, they
bounce automn really fast to the next gig. Well, they
want to make dat money, Donald, I understand that, but

(07:44):
there's no loyalty in this business. By the way, I
want to I want to tell you I have two
things I did this week that are that are so
not me. They're so Donald I I and they were
both wonderful. I watched a sports documentary. The Netflix has
a series called Bad Sports. You guys would love this, Tim.

(08:06):
You love the sports, I love sports. I love Yeah. Well,
bad Sports is about love the sports analogies, um sports. Um.
Bad Sports is about controversies in sports. And this one
was about point shaving, the ASU point shaving scandal. Do
you remember that? Yeah? Sure, yes, I never knew what
point shaving was. It wasn't fascinating, but it was a
player that was actually doing Yeah. But they were so

(08:28):
good at it because they would have like phenomenal games
like score thirty points sports. Yes, you know, And but
did you watch it was a game? No? I remember
when it happened. You got to watch this doc Dude,
this guy. It's so sad. It's tragic. They were broken
and they were young, and they they they they did
it and they did their time and they and they
suffered the consequences. But when you watched the man cry

(08:49):
as he tells the story because he was headed to
the NBA. Was it Charles Shackelford. No, his nickname was
was um. He had a funny nickname, um Headache. His
nickname was Headache. That was funny. Anyway, he was so
fucking good that they that the bookie would say, you
gotta it has to be you. You can win. But

(09:12):
it's got to be um no, no more than six points, right,
and he would hit it. It would the game wins points.
You know, he was a point guard, which I learned
Tim Hobert really is the sort of quarterback in basketball
control the whole game than I know that. I learned
it from launching that. Also, in jazz music, there's a
point guard, you know, so the guy that the people

(09:33):
that everyone follow in the improvisation. So so so is
Michael Jordan the point guard? Yeah, but he but you
might as well consider him a point guard because he
had the ball in his hand most of the time.
My daughter let me let me ask you in a
in a in a and I'm sorry again, everyone listening
knows that I know very little. Wouldn't You're so your
best player, your your your mega player isn't always the

(09:56):
point guard? No, not always? O, most likely your best
player isn't the point guard, Zach. I watched the Rescue. Yes,
I recommended that Donalds, you need to watch this. It's
fascinating shit. And also I learned something very interesting from
a guy who I played tennis with. He said, you

(10:17):
would assume in The Rescue that all the don't keep
away any spoilers, Tim, because our audience doesn't want is
for those of you who may have missed an episode.
The Rescue is a documentary on Disney about um, the
young boys who were chops in a cave. Anyway, it's
amazing the dock and now Ron Howard is making Yes,
what has made and and and the buzz around town

(10:40):
is that it's amazing the narrative version of it. Anyway,
people should watch that now, Tim, I was just reminding
the audience, what were you about to say about it?
Without giving well spoilers, you can edit it out. But
my friend told me, I assume that all the footage
that they had of the you know, going back and
forth underwater, they must have ragged cameras up for say,
fear something, but that was all recreated. It blew my mind.

(11:04):
Oh I don't like that, I know, but it blew
my mind. The second thing I did Donald, as I said,
I'm going to try. I'm sick and tired of this
global phenomenon of Marvel. I'm dating a Marvel Superhero. I said,
I'm gonna give some of these movies a chance. The
last one, I really, I really don't watch them. Of

(11:25):
course I watched one. I watched Black Widow, and I
watched I've seen an Avengers movie. But I'm like, I'm
gonna give the Phase one a chance. And I had
seen Iron Man, and I always loved iron Man, so
I started with Iron Man too, and I really enjoyed it. Sure,
and then I went on to thor One, which I

(11:47):
didn't enjoy as much. But I didn't although you know,
I love me some Natalie Portman. I just did. I
thought the movie wasn't as good. But then, per Donald's recommendation,
I watched the First Captain America, which was great, amazing movie.
It's well done, well done. Wait till you see the
second one. It's better. I'm done, baby, it's done. I'm sorry, guys,

(12:09):
I gotta get the fab out. We could do it.
Let's talk about something. There's a nurse. I just want
the audience to know there's now a nurse that's come
in with Donald Donald. Did you call the nurse baby? No,
you call the no no, no baby, my wife, baby,
you can't do it anymore. That's not that's not appropriate.
You can't look off to the nurse and say baby, nurse, baby,

(12:32):
make an entrance. Real, Hi, it appears song Casey, come down,
do tell me what to do? And mind guys, it

(12:52):
appeared it appeared that he called the nurse baby casey.
You know what, he's trained, that's all he knows what
to say. Any Tim, Tim Hobard here was you know,
have you guys met Tim No? I feel like, okay, well, Tim,
Tim was just saying that we're not back in a
year where you call nurses babe, So remind your husband. Yeah, yeah,

(13:16):
we're working on that. Where he doesn't get out much.
I don't let him go anywhere, so you know, he's
not used to being around people. Donald and I have
a very big surprise, uh that we can't talk about,
but maybe we can bleep out. But I want Tim
to hear it, and the audience can hear Tim's reaction
to it. I can't wait, and maybe Joel and Daniel's
reaction to it. Um. But we'll just have to we'll

(13:37):
have to bleep out what it is. I think, yeah,
you know it's the thing that we're doing. Oh oh,
the thing are you guys? Hey, um, Donald, I thought
we could tell Joel, Daniel and Tim our thing and
they'll bleep it out, but we can the audience can
at least hear their reaction to it, our exciting thing.

(13:57):
Wait wait, okay, I was going to do what you
said you wanted to do it. I was gonna do it.
But why how come you get to steal doing the
things you're doing? You know what? I was late? You
do it? Go ahead, Yeah, you were late. Timpany dot
dot down, timpany Okay, Donald, and I uh sha bepper

(14:21):
very bit. My heart is so full for you guys.
That's uneasy, look awesome. I'm gonna say something right now.
When it came, it came across the wire. Zach hit
me up at like ten o'clock at night, after dinner
with Flow, and he hits me up and he's had
a couple and he's like, dude, I fucking it fucking happened.

(14:43):
I'm like, what happened? He's like, and I'm like, dude,
you're so fucking drunk. You're so drunk drunk? Are you
right now? That you fucking I was calling you from
bed and I had had I had had a few
and U and I was so excited and Donald was like, oh, cool, cool, cool, whatever.

(15:04):
And then when we hung up, Flow was like, how
come he wasn't more excited? And I was like, I
think he's doing the whole I'll believe it when I
see it, Vibe. It was ten o'clock at night. Dude,
who calls you at ten o'clock at night with news
like that? No one? Well you did it, obviously, fans.
You will know soon enough what that is. It's very cool.

(15:25):
It's a very exciting thing for I would say a
bucket list item for Donald and definitely a bucket list now, Donald,
something we are allowed to talk about is your exciting
DC news. Can you that's on this? I don't know
how I got this lucky. I think you know what.
The whiteboard thing is real, dude. I've told you the
whiteboard thing, but I know you told me, but I

(15:45):
didn't believe magical. It is magical. And you know I
wrote a bunch of things on my whiteboard. One of
them was being in DC in the DC universe, and
it has officially happened, dude, It has officially happened, Like
not universe. Tell everyone and keep in mind that a

(16:08):
lot of listeners don't know the intricacies of the DC universe, right, Okay,
So I'm going to be on a show called Legends
of Tomorrow. It airs on the c W. Yeah. I'm
used to calling it the WB from back in the day.
That's how old school. I remember the frog, Remember the
frog frog? Yeah, the WB frog. Um. Anyway, So it's

(16:28):
on the CW. It's in the arrow verse, which is Berlante.
We've had a couple of people from the Blante verse
on the show. Uh, Tom Cavanaugh plays first. Keep hiring us.
So thank you Greg Blandy for continuing to hire me
in Donald thank you, yeah, thank you Berlante, thank you
Sarah Scheckter. Also she shout out she's amazing. Um. Anyway,

(16:49):
so I will be you can't, Nope, you gotta beat that.
But I will be on Legends of Tomorrow. Now I
learned just because they of course then wrote me things
are you? Is Zach gonna be? That's who I think
he should play too. Is it just a voice? No,
it would be a character. We'd dress up like fucking superheroes,
put on superhero outfits. Well you tell Berlandy that album?

(17:12):
Fuck yeah, it's on the podcast. It's on the podcast.
It's on the podcast. Drop it. You gonna have to believe. Yeah, dude,
Beccouver's dope. I don't fuck with Vancouver. Who shit? What? No?
I love Vancouver, but but is there wait sorry, let
me let me ask, let me start this over. Does
Canada still have a two week h No, no, no,

(17:33):
you don't have to quarantine? Oh because he you know,
we talked about this on the podcast, but they were
having a two week sit in a hotel room. No
fucking around quarantine, Daddy, don't do that, daddy unto that. No. No,
my friend, my good friend did it for it to
do a show, and she sat in a hotel room
for two weeks, and I would go shining. Yeah, that's

(18:02):
think think of the masturbation that goes on in those
hotel rooms if everyone's there for two weeks. Yeah, two weeks.
I mean, it could clog the city sewer system. I'm
there for an hour and Donald Donald Donald Master beats
on the plane. Right. No, no, no, no, no, you're
not allowed to do that. You're not allowed to do that.
You're not They never say, they never say in the
rules you can there's an old. There's an old there's

(18:25):
an old stand up joke. This that's one of my
favorite stand up jokes from way back, when the guy
goes um I found a Penthouse magazine in the seatback
cover of my airplane seat. I have one word for you, akupato.
Do you know? My whole life, I've always thought it

(18:45):
was bizarre that in the magazine shop they put the
black cover things over the porn. Still still, who's buying
Penthouse and a Hustler at the airport? And what are
you doing with said magazine? It's crazy? Does that do
they still have? I remember Playboy used to be at
the airport, but that was like no, you know how
in the magazine shop there'd be like four four magazines

(19:08):
that had black covers on them, right, which is obviously porn.
I don't know in twenty twenty two, but I remember
looking a few years ago and they still had them,
and I was thinking, like, who are these payboys? Who?
Who is mazine? But there's not even like Playboy, which
is like especially now is just like light. It's like Maxim,

(19:29):
it's like Hustler and pounds, like who who's like linking
their finger linking their finger and turning the page like
perusing Hustler on a point. This is so great. I
can't believe them hanging out with you. Guess yeah, I
love you Jim Once I recall you had about seven children.
Did that increase or I have four children? Had four

(19:50):
children in four years? Yes, four children in four years? Yes,
not messing around. Yeah, it's crazy now that brings that's
like the Irish Irish twins like you guy, Yeah yeah,
we had we had a right yeah yeah wow, drink
and fight and then we had a so we had

(20:11):
a daughter a son, and then we had twins, so
it was okay yeah yeah wow. Now also for fans Chill,
Tim's wife Um played the patient that sang the Colin
Hayes song Day. I can see a very long way
that eisode her at her acting and that was phenomenal. Yeah,

(20:33):
you had some good scenes with her and that she
was so good and her voice is ridiculous. Yeah, that
was one of my favorite weeks because all of our
friends were on the show. Yeah, you know, I mean
everyone in that I think everyone in that show was
a friend of her writer or an actor. That's crazy,
which is also so great. That's that's Bill all the

(20:54):
way right, because you would think that would happen. Like,
you know, Zach just directed. Zach's directed several movies. Now
I've only been in one of them. That's so sad.
And well the one you were in didn't do well,
so I'm well, it might have been my curse. No more,
I gotta put method Man in every one. Now, the

(21:15):
method got it, got it, Atlanta, Listen. I have very
good luck when my African American star is a Method
Man or Morgan Freeman. So I'm sticking with them. I
put you in one movie and no one goes to see. Now,
I'll tell you, guys, the one thing that I can
bring to this podcast that's unique is that I have

(21:36):
all the dirt on Bill, you know. I mean Bill
was my Bill was my first friend in LA and
uh and then and then I worked with him on
spinn City, you know until he left spin City and
then right sorry, so oh that was the first show
you worked with him? One? Yeah, so Bill hired me
on spinn City. Uh, and I just got to LA

(21:59):
and he was my first friend and and then he
did everything for me. I mean he he saw me
do stand up, He got me a job doing warm
up for a show he was on. Then, um, he
introduced me to my wife. Then he hired me on
spinn City. Come from basketball when you guys playing basketball together? Yeah,
I met I met him at the Hollywood Why with
you guys were talking about Hollywood Shuffle. Robert Townsend used

(22:20):
to play right. Oh yeah, And and and Ron bell Sheridan.
Do you remember him? Rondelle so so. Ron bell Sheridan
had a sitcom when everyone had a sitcom called Minor
Adjustments and Ute. And when he would play against him
at the Why, I'd go, oh, Rondell Sheared and make
some minor adjustments and he hated it. But anyways, Yeah,

(22:43):
I met Bill at the and then I worked on
Spin City with him, which was insane. And then I
came to the first uh Rightwood Spence City, and he
brought me on Scrubs and all the writers on Scrubs
were like, how can this guy talk to Bill this way?
Like because everyone was everyone's afraid of him, and and
I would just call him on all of shit, you know,
and it was hilarious. Where you guys, it was clear

(23:04):
that you and he had known each other for really
really well. It was also clear it was also clear,
you know, Bill has also clear that Bill had a
lot of respect for Tim. I mean Bill would, Bill
would give Timm, you know, so much more responsibility than
you know Tim and the Gate two though, if I'm correct,

(23:25):
But I mean there were certain Bill had his you know,
it goes without saying, any leader knows who he can
delegate to and delegate leadership too. And Tim, you know
you and Matt Tarsus are two examples that come to
mind of writers in the room that he would say, Okay,
I gotta go do X y Z. You run the room.
You're in j Yeah, so you did have about you.
You were kind of like a vice president at times. Well,

(23:47):
and he called me and he was like, you know,
come on the second season Scrubs. And so I really
did a ton of homework on that show. Like I
watched like every episode of the first season, wrote down everything,
and I was like blown away, how good the show?
And so when I came in, you know all like
a lot of writers are just like, oh, you're on
hiatus after a long year. They don't want to watch
the show. So when I came in, I just watched

(24:09):
like all twenty four of them, and like studied them,
and so I was just like, I couldn't wait to
start working on that show. It was so good. That's
the thing prepared, I mean, and it was just such
a good show. And the guy who writes the essays
and you guys have on as a guest, what's his name?
Oh scrubs a WICKI Trevor, Trevor, Oh no, no, no,
you're talking about Oh say like, I loved what he

(24:33):
said that he liked seasons two and five because those
those are like my favorite season. I think five is
my favorite. Listen, this is, this is, we are doing it.
We're gonna We're gonna five, six, seven, eighth, soon into
season six episode one. Everybody but um, but I have
to say thus far, five is by far my favorite.
I I loved score. I thought there's so many laps

(24:54):
in one through four, but I like it. One step
trip year and season five definitely delivery. It's so trippy
and it's fun listening to you guys deconstruct that shit
and just be like, what the I love that Bill
come on and said he Bill has come on and sorry, no,
I just wanted to finish it and said Bill has
come on and said, you know it was season five.
He's getting a little board. You had to shake it

(25:15):
up and shake it up. I mean there's ostriches wearing kengos.
Oh my god. And you guys were just like jelling,
you know, well this episode I'm gonna say, I mean,
I don't know what happened in between, but I mean,
I feel like this episode is chock full of stoner
humor throughout. Also, I feel for coming back into it.

(25:36):
We seem like all very very very game and very
very confident. I was really blown away by, like, you know,
usually like performances get bigger and stuff, and you guys
were like right in the pocket on this one. Thank you.
All right, Well, dude, would you like do to the
honors and counters in Tim Hubert? Oh my god, for real? Yeah,

(25:58):
get to okay, let me, let me, let me get
my special guests to do it with us already. Oh wow,
we're gonna do it together. Ready, Yeah, and I can
I kind of do it Donald Impression, Yes five six
Sterday about show. We made about a bunch of docs

(26:19):
and nurses and said stories never so get around you
here a yeah, around here. I gotta run into the

(26:46):
restaurant bear back that was flawless while Donald's up peeing.
I think we can still talk Tim about. Another thing
I like about you is that you are capable of
beating the very very cocky Bill Lawrence in sports. Yes,
guys are both very good tennis players. And I and Bill.
I mean I've seen Bill beat like like Prostill, Bill

(27:10):
is the most competitive man I've ever met. I used
to say that Bill would come in first and third
in a jack off contest. That's how competitive he is.
Because you're saying during the second he would be he
would reboot, yes, wow, and and then and then come
in thirds. Think it's a thing. Think of that now.

(27:33):
But now you guys have been playing pickleball. But you're
on the same team and you play pickleball, right yeah, No, no, No,
it's me and j D, the real j D versus
versus Matt Tarsas and Bill. Oh my god, it's the
most scrubs pickleball game. It's the funniest thing ever. Donald
Tim Hobert plays pickleball, him and real j D versus

(27:55):
Matt Tarsus and Bill. It's it's two very unapp athletic players. No,
they're all like, no, they're all great, right, well, Matt,
Matt's really athletic and j Jading you wouldn't think is athletic.
But I'm just going more in basketball. I'm just going
by basketball. Yeah, MAT's Matt's Yeah, Matt's not agree, but
basketball Matt doesn't he just look at Matt Tarsus and

(28:16):
think he was probably good at tennis. Yeah he is.
He was a squash player too in college. There you go.
I'm shocking when when Matt shorts anything which short now
he just looks like you number in trading places when
they're like ony stubs on the Matt Tarsas when he
plays basketball sometimes like we'll be in like the fifth
game of the night and Bill Callahan will say, Matt,

(28:38):
when did you get here? So that's fucked up. But
but Tim, you're you're equally as entranced by pickleball as Bill. Right, Yeah,
Bill gets like whenever he whenever there's something new, Bill
loves to promote it. And yeah he's obsessed. But yeah,
the new the suit, do you know about the suit?

(28:58):
What's the suit? Oh? When we're talking about this at dinner,
don't you don't know about this? You need to get
you can't get them now, there's this electrode suit, right,
but all the cool kids are getting now. I think
it's like three thousand dollars and it comes with a
workout that you do for twenty minutes with an iPad
workout and um it gets you wrapped like fast. Do

(29:23):
you guys suit dann can you google that for me?
I think it's called the suit I got. I have
a confession. I don't know why I'm giving them a
free Do you guys have hyper volts? You know, the
like the theragun? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yet the gun we
love theragun. Well, okay, because I'm a friends with the
lady does hyper vol I'll get you guys hyper vol

(29:44):
You probably don't need them so well. Isn't there a
go on one of our advertisers or they were yeah,
we yeah, we only use a gun. Okay, one thing quick, Zach?
Can I say before that we get off the bill
sports thing? Bill and I started playing a lot of
tennis in the pandemic. We played seventy sets of tennis
and score the score is thirty five all no, wow, kidding.

(30:09):
But then I just want to put this on the
air that I've beat him soundly the last four times
we've played, and he's very upset. No the less the
last six times we've played, he hasn't been on a
show uh that much this year. He's such a busy man.
So I've got a few like little scrubs nuggets that
I wrote down that I just tell you. In my

(30:31):
twenty plus years of writing comedy, Zach, my favorite ad
lib was when when Donald and Judy were in that
bathtub and you were taking a ship and you said
sorry about the twosy guys. That's to this day, that's
my favorite thing. And that's I I've worked with Neil
Flynn now you know, eight more years on in the middle.
That's the funniest thing I've ever heard. Um Uh. Then

(30:55):
here's a good one. Um Uh. One time Matt were
being tortured by Bill. It was like seven in the morning,
and we kept bringing him this one scene and editing,
and Bill would just keep tell us it wasn't good enough,
and uh, like the third time we brought in the
editing bay, He's like, guys, it's just not good enough.
And we walked out the door shut and then they

(31:16):
hit play on the edit and the joke was Doctor
Kelso's face had been burning with coffee, and you go,
whatever you do, don't say splotchy. And then you go,
good splotchy, doctor splotchy. And we're outside the door having
been told our scene isn't good enough for like the

(31:37):
fifth time, and and that's the fucking joke. We here
coming through the door. We're like, where's the bar. We
gotta get into this, We gotta get into this episode.
It was written by Tim Hobertum the beginning, Hey, happy season,
Happy season six. Everybody, Um again, not to be neurotic,
but Donald and I have no plan for when we

(31:58):
run out of episodes. Maybe we should just watch things
that we've been in next and uh and and and
and go through that. That just seems weird, though I
don't know. I don't know. I should you guys, do
you guys should do a Broadway themed No listeners will
all go away. You have to. We have so many
listeners worldwide. Um, you have to. And we don't want
any of the Leaves to do something that that would

(32:21):
dovetail with their the Love Scrubs, or you have to
pivot to doing interesting people, um, which everybody seems to
be doing now, which everyone is doing and it's sort
of played out, and then it's like, how am I
gonna grant compete with Mark? Mary, I'm gonna one for you, guys.
I'm gonna come up with something, all right, Oh Catalyst. Okay, guys, Sorry,

(32:43):
I'm gonna just gonna circle back Google um Catalyst suit
Catalyst This Tim, Tim, weren't you with me when we
were talking about this? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, you guys hang out?
Oh yeah, y'all hang out? Yea hang out? How they'll
hang out? The reason I found out Tim as a
fan of the podcast was Bill. Bill brought me to dinner. Bill,

(33:04):
Bill brought him to dinner. Oh yeah, so y'all hang out?
All right? So you guys, this Catalyst suit and I
don't this is this is apparently people are saying, and
I and if Catalyst wants to send me and Donald
a suit, we would be very happy to advertise the
funk out of it because they're expensive. But apparently this
thing actually works. You work out and for twenty minutes

(33:24):
and you get it's like the Iron Man suit looks
like the Flash Yeah that from the movie. No. Bill
told me he was going to leave me that suit
when he goes to Miami. Oh really, yeah, but not
after I probably said I beat him in tennis. I
think Bill and Kristen got one. But there's a way,
there's a wait list. Yeah, come on, Catalyst, hook us up, Catalyst,

(33:45):
Suit Catalyst, Catalyst, Come on, Catalyst. Someone someone here who
knows the CEO of Catalyst, please send us all the
suit all right, Um, okay, so here we are. Um,
it's a wacky episode. Okay, I've got new long hair.
This episode has one of my favorite jokes in the
whole show, the whole season, And we'll get to that.

(34:09):
But I don't remember. I think I improved some of it.
I don't want to insult your writing, Tim, how much
of that thing? I know? But do you recall I
don't want to take credit. It was a let's just
say it was a team effort. Yeah. Look at the
bit that we'll get to of me describing to my
friends dying impregnated without penetration. Okay, I have a question

(34:30):
to ask. Yes, we literally went to Vegas just to
do a cold open. How did that happens? About the
Blue Man group? Bill loves Bill loves the big season
opening episodes, and he always wants to do big stuff
in those, right, and uh that little Man come from.
I understood it as like Bill, Bill wants to go

(34:53):
to Vegas with the whole cast, and and we find
a reason to make that happen. But also Bill's obsessed
with Blue MANGERO if he loved Blue Angeroo? Oh we did? Ok? Yeah,
now did Blue Man Group. We must have worked out
a deal. I don't know if we paid them or
they paid us, because it was sort of an ad
for them. Yeah. I think it probably helped them more
than it helped us. Well, we went to the club

(35:14):
with the Blue Man Group. Dude, after these two we
did that night? We did? We party with the Blue
Man Group that night. Not only did we party with
the Blue Man Group. I remember the people that were
in the club that night were Kim Kardashian. We went
to town at night Kim Kardashian and but she wasn't
famous Kim Kardashian yet. She wasn't famous Kim Kardashian yet.
I remember them being like, and Kim Kardashian in the

(35:35):
house and I'd be like, and I was like, who
is that and there and someone said it's Paris Hilton's
Sidekick's Paris Hilton's closet, closet organizer or some shit like that.
That's what it was back then. I remember somebody introducing
Kim too me, Hey, Donald, have you ever met Kim before?
And I was like, oh, hey, how's it going? But
I didn't know. She hadn't become the most famous person

(35:55):
in the world yet. She was like Paris Hilton's yea
side side kick at the time. And now forget about
it all right, So Jordan's pregnant. Jordan's pregnant, Jack, who
was talking a lot right now, Jordan's pregnant? Who do
you who? Timmy? You would know who is she pregnant with?
In real life that would probably have been Will I imagine. Okay, yeah,

(36:16):
and Cox gets mad and throws food at Jack's face. Yes,
you guys have lots of children. It must be frustrating
sometimes when they throw food. You want to throw food back. Yeah, yeah,
there was, you do, but you don't. There was one
line in this thing right before they threw the TV
out the window. I just jumping ahead a little bit.

(36:38):
But like when I got back from a well, you know,
we had all the four kids on a vacation and
we got in our minivan. My brother Mike picked us up,
and I was just so devastatingly tired, and Mike one
of the kids dropped his pacifier, one of the twins,
and I was trying to pick it up, and my

(36:58):
back hurt and my my my sternum was in the
stroller wheel and I'm trying to get this pacifier and
I arch up to my back hurts, and I go
in front of the TV and the Minivans is finding
Nemo and my little guy Charlie goes, I can't see Nemo,
and I go, how would you like my fucking fist
in your face? That's what I said to my kid,

(37:21):
And so I remembered when I was watching this, um
the guy goes, I can't see the TV. And then
doctor Cox threw it out of the out of the window,
and I'm like, oh my god, it was like PTSD
of having it. That's where it came from. Oh my god. Anyways,
that I'm probably gonna get like Social Services calling me.
But no, Tim doesn't harm his children. He just sometimes
threatened the show, yeah, to put your fist in everywhere.

(37:42):
Let's take a break. We'll be right back after these
fine words. So there's a great moment in this where
we're talking about ring tones, and Turk's talking about how
he's gonna put instincts bye bye bye into his phone

(38:02):
for the ring tone, and Elliott says, I'm putting Jesus
take the wheel by Carrie Underwood into mine, right, And
Rob Mascio's character to Todd walks by and says, I'm
carrying Underwood. Now. That was the second greatest thing he had,

(38:23):
other than in your endo, in your endow, yeah, Todd.
Todd starts off the episode saying that he has Underwood, um,
which is a good joke. Now, pop rocks and coke.
If you don't know, if you're too young to know,
it was always an old wives tale when we were
growing up that this is a deep cut. But there

(38:43):
used to be an ad for Life Cereal. Life Cereal
was a very popular cereal. I don't know if it's
still popular or not, but I loved it as a kid.
And and the ads, the commercials had a little boy
and he was named Mikey. Yes, and and and he
was adorable, cute commercial kid. And they'd be like, give
it to Mikey, he loves it, right, No, give it

(39:04):
to Mikey, he'll eat anything. He'll eat anything. And then
Mike and then he Mikey would eat Life cereal and
it was adorable and they would say, Mikey likes it.
He likes it. Hey, Mikey, he likes it. Okay, go
look this up on YouTube if you're curious. Well, a
rampant rumor spread that that Mikey, the adorable kid from

(39:25):
the Life commercials, had died. Yes, because exploded. Exploded. He
exploded because he ate pop rocks and coke together. Yes,
like pop rocks. I don't know if you don't know
what pop rocks are. It's a candy that goes in
your mouth and it makes it it fizzes. We show
it in this episode and apparently so as children, we

(39:46):
were terrified if you would explode, like poor Minkey, if
we ever had pop rocks and coke together. Well, but
there's some there's something to all of that because have
you ever seen mintos and coke are mixed and you
see what they can do? Right? I so imagine if
you had mentos in your mouth and that happened. So
the fact that you could see it happened with mintos

(40:08):
only makes it more makes the urban legend even more
of a possibility because it happens with mentos. Minto's explodes
if you put it in a bottle. I must admit
I don't know if Minkey died from pop products. If
you're still alive, so well, can you please google what
happened to Mikey from the Life Sero commercial? And is it?

(40:31):
Is it in fact false? That urban myth? That's gotta
be I haven't thought about that in years. No, but
do you remember that? I remember, I remember being a child.
I remember being a child being afraid that somehow I
would forget and have pop rox and coke and explode
like Minkey. Accidentally, Um I have so so Kim tells

(40:53):
me she's pregnant, and I go, I have to ask
you have there have there been other penises that ad lived?
I don't remember writing that, but that's a great we
have the writer on the show. I'm gonna take um
all you should. I don't think particularly funny. And I
also loved your delivery on uh well, thanks a lot.

(41:14):
That's hilarious, Yeah, hilarious. That's different. That's hilarious. That's hilarious.
I remember loving that joke in the room. So the
Backstreet Boys, Sorry, instinct dancing. That was very funny. I'm
trying to get Turk called Turk, called Turk, call Turk,
and I can't get him because the entire lobby of
this hospital is dancing and rob By, and rob of

(41:36):
course has his shirt off. Ye did we did we
ask you, like, do you remember Donald? If we asked you,
like what song we should use for that? No, you
guys came in and we're like, we're gonna use Bye
Bye Bye. And I was like, that's fine, that's perfect. Sweet. See,
I do remember. I do remember this, and I thought
it was really weird, but I remembered it, and then

(41:57):
it happened in the show. But when you're on that,
you're in front of the deck still, and I knew
that something like this had happened. I just couldn't remember it.
And you say something to the effect of, you know,
I should and my bed. There's a party on the deck. Yes,
the gay seniors. You got to set up, right, the
gay seniors are having a party on my deck. And
I'm hammered, right, and you say, and Jad says something

(42:19):
to the likings of I should be with one of
you guys, I should marry My life would be easier
if I married one of you guys and then he
passes out and they freaking form a freaking like a funeral.
Is that a procession? When they're in line? Like procession?
Let's roll, boys, it's a procession of Volkswagen bugs. I

(42:41):
remember shooting that, and I remember you've just been obsessed
with that lame miss that well, it's misses in town. Yeah,
I assumed I could get them off every I kept
ja jad Is the second time trying to get the
gay seniors off his deck using lame miss as a
lures in town. And it's and they didn't. They didn't

(43:03):
fall for it. Instead, they pretty much take advantage of
my incapacitation and try and gay marry me. You heard him.
But I think that's consent what you said consent. I
don't think it's consent. It's iron you said it. My
life would be easier if I would just married one
of you guys. You heard him, girl, Yeah, Well, all

(43:23):
I know is I wake up and I'm about to
be married in Vegas to a man. And then Donald
gets to Vegas way too fast? Yes, four hour, it's
what is it? Four and a half hours? If you're
driving fast, yeah, but where did we should what do
we say this? Well, we we always you know that's true.
It was never specific. We've we've in in in five seasons.

(43:44):
We've sort of deduced that it's Los Angeles. Los Angeles, y,
you know why we had a fake name in the
writer's room of the place. I can't remember it though.
The real Kicker was Sarah takes a train to to
AC World. I know, I know by the way. I
can't just you're hearing you say, kicker. I can't wait
to get to my favorite scene. Okay, let's keep moving,

(44:06):
so you're all dancing. Kelso gets into it. For some reason,
he spikes the lens when he says this is yeah,
he did. I noticed that. I don't know what that was.
Was sort of a weird choice. John Inwood, our cinematographer,
directed this, so I don't know why our wonderful DP
made it in such an odd choice. But for no reason,
Kelso spikes the lens when he says that line, yeah,

(44:29):
good guy, um so so, um, we're in Vegas. Sorry,
we're in Vegas and we do the whole Blue Man
Group thing. I remember it being a lot of fun.
We because we just all we did to do was
shoot that quick um walk and talk with Donald and
the Blue Man group thing, which we which didn't did
it all in a day. We literally did it in

(44:50):
in the maybe a half a day, yeah half, because
then we had the rest of the night. And then
we party. The whole crew, the whole crew and cast
was there. I remember having an amazing time and great
we took over blackjack tables together and yeah, and you
guys were living the life of Riley. We were, you know,
Bill huge hands because I remember I remember watching Bill

(45:14):
bet huge hands because he was much richer than we were,
and and uh and I was way more inebriated than
and it was a lot of fun to watch him
bet like really stupidly giant hands of blackjack. I'd never
seen someone do that. I do remember you guys being
like hungover the rest of the week. Oh whenever, whenever

(45:34):
we were shooting. Oh man, there were so many hungover
stories from I mean, I wonder how that worked, Like
we didn't like we we we were shooting two episodes
that this is so at some point we were shooting
two episodes at a time, weren't we weren't we doing
something where we were doing At some point it seemed
like we were shooting. We weren't shooting like this season alone.

(45:56):
I don't think we shot in order like I think
there was that's right, right. I think there was some
times where we were doing other shows that were gonna
be before and then. I don't know. I don't know.
The show is always there was The show was always
shot on him on a Monday through Friday schedule. I
don't know how he would have gone Vegas partied huge

(46:17):
and like been back and yeah, they had to be
shooting somehow. That was scheduled, so there had to be
two units. Okay, so um, so um is this the
first it's Beard Fosse damnit? Second second? Okay, so Beard
Fosse uh has a catchphrase? Yeah, And she was gonna
and Eliot was gonna mount him. I don't know why

(46:39):
he didn't take it up on that, right? Why was
against being mounted by Elliot? She could call him anything,
I mean, what was he thinking? Yeah, well, he may
not be into women. Um, he certainly didn't take the
lure of being mounted by Elliott who's not attractive. I mean,
I don't know, I don't know what happened there. Yeah,

(47:01):
This made me laugh. Coincidentally, I have a cousin named
shit Daisy. That was hilarious. Tim, Where did this um
this convention come from? If do you recall even of
having uh, the three three of us confront mirror sort
of different images of ourselves. I think it was like

(47:23):
just one of these again. It was like the first
one of the season. Bill always wanted to do really
cool stuff, and I think having you guys played for
you know, different versions of yourself felt really cool at
the time. Well, missus zb is not a name. And
by the way, you're a handsome, handsome woman. I did
a natter school special called My Summer as a Girl,

(47:44):
which I encourage you all to google image. We talked
about it with Gabby as well. Yes, so I did it.
I did a natter school special when I was in
at Northwestern, um uh what during a summer break, called
My Summer as a Girl. It's a masterpiece. Let me
ask you a question. Please look for please look for
clips on YouTube and enjoy When you were at Northwestern

(48:07):
and that and the movie and you were filming the movie,
were you like big man on campus? Like I fucking
got a job? Some of you don't even have jobs yet. Well,
it was during a summer break, and I remember I
came back, well, when I went to North Restaurant, I
had just done a small part in Manhattan Murder Mystery,
and that I was very proud of because that was
a huge deal. And I remember being feeling a cool
kid about that. Right, this after school special was pretty

(48:30):
dark and cheesy and I and I I knew it,
and I think I was a little embarrassed. I didn't
It wasn't like I was coming back like, oh, I
was in something dope, but the check was very meanful
to me as a college kid, and uh, and I
remember being thrilled about that. But I remember feeling like
like I was in a fraternity like everyone. I remember
everyone gathering around to watch it, and this is awesome.

(48:55):
Doctor Cox would have loved it now as a girl. Yeah,
and and I I the actual special just pretty much
stole the plot of Tutsie. I. I couldn't get a
job and I needed a job, and I dressed up
like a woman. But anyway, I and now one I looked.
I've been told I'd looked like the actress Heather Monterrozzoum,

(49:17):
which makes sense because we wants to play brother and
he wants played brother, and Heather is way prettier. But
but but we wants played brother and sister together. So
so it made sense this one. I don't know. I
don't think I look like I'm gonna say, but no
disrespect to the actress who then we morphed into you.
But I think you were prettier than the actress. Are

(49:38):
you say that's not nice? Well, I'm sorry, it's well
you're you're saying that if you had to choose, if
you were at a bar and you were gonna take
one of us home, you would affected missus ZB. Yes,
I would have gone home with you that night. For
those of you as high as Donald you might not know.

(49:59):
You might not know that missus ZB as my initials
z B oh shit, Come on Jesus for I have
another question now. And I'm from the African American community,

(50:20):
really really, but what the fuck is a funky cold Medina? Oh?
There was a song, funky cole Medina it was and
Tone Loke wrote the song, right, know the song? But
what is it funky cold Medina? No? No, no, what
is it? The premise of the song, Um that it
made Pete. It was like it was afrodisiact. Joel, you're

(50:40):
the pop caled Well you don't know. Joel was like,
I don't know what that sh is. You never heard
of funky cole Medina. It was a song. I know
the song, but funky what does it mean? I believe
I recall there was a video and I think funky
cole Medina was an afrodisiact drink that would make the
lead eats all want sir mix who sang that song?

(51:03):
Oh sorry, okay date rape drug? No sensual, No, it
was consensual, it was I believe it was. It just okay.
The women, the women, I believe knew they were drinking
and after dzact drink and off base here So so no, no, no.
The Urban Dictionary is agreeing with you. Generally, anything to

(51:26):
help you get loose or let loose. And medina what's
a commentary name for black families in Spanish. So I
don't think it's like it's just it helps you get loose,
have fun, Joel, can you scroll through the video on
YouTube and see if I'm correct in that women would
drink it and then want to bang tone. Look, it

(51:46):
comes full circle to me going home with you if
you were a woman in the bar though, If you yeah,
I saw you, then then that's a lap. It wasn't
like a roofy thing. It was like you drink it
and all of a sudden you're like that, give oh,
we found a recipe. Okay, one ounce of Absolute vodka

(52:07):
Southern Comfort, and Luke curs, correct, go, I don't know.
Thank you over ice with Cranberry. Jee. Please just answer
my query about whether in the video um the storyline.
I just want to I don't have the best memory,
and I just want to know if, if, if I'm

(52:28):
correct that in the storyline of the video was that
women changed their attitude towards tone Loaf once they'd had
I think that's a you could connect those doubts, right,
I don't know. I don't know, all right, Donald, your
joke exactly? If I say this, I don't. I don't

(52:48):
know if you're driving this thing, but I do tend
to drive the thing, Tim, But you're you're like much
like Bill entrusting the writer's room to well I did.
I loved when you were with the motorcycle, a thin
guy and you said, he said, what's up? We were
off the rails this season. Man, Like, there's so many

(53:09):
things that happened in the season where I'm like, what
not just this episode alone? Like we came off at
five and I was like, this is kind of crazy,
But dude, you hide in between my legs where the
pedals breaks love it and that and then it is
on the verge of the backpack thing. How I fit there?

(53:30):
But I I did fit there, I guess, But why
didn't she see me? You're hiding under the freaking You're
where the the pedal and the brake are. The reason
people loved you guys together so much is like encapsulated
in that charades thing, right, I got that so great?

(53:54):
The baby CPR class. We are so going to kill
this Charades tournament this weekend. People just love you guys.
Where did where did they? When did they get in?
A First of all, how did they get into the
Charides tournament? Second, his wife is pregnant. Where's the he
think he's going this weekend? Get out of here. We've

(54:16):
been practicing for Sharides tournament. I feel like we've given
up on the Mighty Kites Club that hasn't gotten attentions.
We haven't started the Mighty Kites Club yet, have we
that's coming up? That's like, I think Mighty Kites while
I was still there. That was definitely while I was
still there. Because I wasn't there for season A lot
of hardcore fans. What about shower shorts? Shower shorts? Oh

(54:39):
my god, I love shower shorts. So the man who
has nothing to hide but still wants to one of
my favorite things out me too. Still wait to Tim,
But you wrote the first episode for season six, but
then I left. I didn't stay for season six. Got it? Okay,
let me get this straight to him, because I want
to get into one of my favorite jokes in all
of this whole Room Scrubs, which is the JD explaining

(55:02):
how he got him. Um, it seems to me that
the that JD ejaculated to his own dirty talk is
that what happened. Yes, you got sucked up in your
own dirty right, So what really happened was that they
did they weren't just we'll go into what he says,

(55:22):
but he what seems to have happened in the macro
is that JD started using dirty talks and turned himself
on so much with his own dirty talk that he
prematurely ejaculated near yes, yes, some septen. I mean, I

(55:46):
just want you, like as a fan, I just want
you to read that MODELO. It was just so my god,
I want I wrote down some key points. There was
some unexpect It's very tricky to describe um ejaculating prematurely
on a woman's vagina on on NBC in a Disney show,

(56:10):
and it starts with you getting turned down by your
own dirty tech. Yeah, thanks Disney. Um, all right, so
I say that there was some I say, can I
confide in you guys? And they're sure? And I say,
we never, um, we got naked, we need it up.
And uh, there was some unexpected friendly fire. Wait a second,

(56:34):
you telling me that you yeah, I know I got
yet and I go and I never, I never got
a chance to enter the village. Wait wait, hold on
you saying that you didn't ye and there was an
airstrike on an outlying region. Yeah, my god, you should

(56:56):
have wont to Emmy for this speech, which to me
is that how it starts off to. It's like and
I confide in you guys, yeah, and trying not to laugh.
It's the funniest damn thing I tell you guys something
real quick, because I don't. I mean, it's it's great
to have friends that you can be like that. I'm
sure we all like tim. I'm sure you have stories
like this all oh yeah, yeah, yeah, where it's like

(57:17):
my wife twins came about. Well, I'm saying, my wife
doesn't have to do much anymore. Like when we're out
and about, she'll I'm sure Bill told me a story
similar to this. One's too, But my wife will talk
the dirtiest to me in the car ride home like
it's going down. Oh shit, we're gonna do oh and
then we're gonna do this, And I'm like, oh yeah,

(57:37):
I can't wait to get home, and I'm all exciting
and everything, and we get home and within seconds like that,
all because of the dirty talking. So you the dirty talk.
Do you think that's by design the case? I don't
want this ship to go on forever, so absolutely, yes,
it's it is. She goes. She will go into oh

(58:02):
you want to do that, I'm gonna let you do this,
and they're gonna do that, and then all I'm gonna
do this that JD did that to himself. Yeah, it
doesn't even sound like Kim was participating in the dirty
no no, no, he was doing it all well, Turt goes,
Turt goes, Turt does say, oh she like it a
dirty talk. Yeah, no, I think I and I believe,
I say, no, I do. I I find it, yeah,

(58:25):
saying something that I find it? Uh, what do you say?
I see something like I think the ladies ladies like it.
And then and then I forgot what I say something yeah,
But but you're basically bring it around to like it's
your dirty talk that turns you on. Yes, And then
I'd love to see what that dirty. The way you
said penetration was so funny too, as the kind of

(58:47):
the woody Allen come, I would tell you sorry, I
forgot to say you. I went to the or the
petist because I'm having some some back issues. And uh,
they have a TV. They're always playing random nature shows
or whatever. They played random TV on in the lot
in the in the waiting room, and I walk in
and Psych is playing huge with subtitles, you know, because

(59:10):
it's off the volumes off on the TV. And I
got a mask on. I mean, I know they know
my name from the from the monitors, their computers and
everything I get an appointment, but I don't. It doesn't.
It doesn't really cross my mind that they recognize me
because I've got a mask on and everything, and they
and they go. One of them goes, does that bother you?
Or playing psych? Fuck? It's like curbing Enthusiasm. And I'm

(59:35):
like and I'm like, well, I will say, of all
the infinite television shows you guys could be playing, you
happen to be playing the one that that does seem
to come closest to two hours. Yea, and you this
is a doctor's office, why not just put on ours?

(59:58):
So sorry, I know that was an secret, but I
have a question to Okay, So there's two things that
happen in this season that I thought were that happens
from here on out. But I think this is the
year that Ken all of a sudden starts to get
the monologues with the zinger at the end, and then
then he walks out, you know what I mean? So, yeah,
Ken gets the the This is when I feel like

(01:00:19):
this is when it started where because he has the
whole thing, in this whole in this scene where he
gives a story, but at the end of the story,
I forget what it was. But at the end of
the story there's a zinger for whoever he's telling the
story too, like you know your life is this with
the zinger at the end. I believe this is when
it starts happening. He has it with the janitor at
one point, and I wish I would have wrote it down.

(01:00:40):
I did write down. I did write down the example
of it, but I didn't write down what exactly what
he said. And so well, they're talking about things on
their bucket list and oh no, sorry, that's the janitor
with the old man version of the janitor, and he says,
do things on your bucket list, and the janitor is
suggest punching a whale, and the old man said, oh,
I thought, went down like listen. Yeah, went down like listen.

(01:01:05):
That's right, went down like listing. What's listen? Box sunny listen,
sunny Listen. Was a boxer. He was the if I'm correct,
the champ before Muhammed Ali. Muhammed Ali took the title
from him. Nice Ken is funny in this episode he's
but that's what I'm saying. This was when the assassin.
The assassin became the assassin like he was already he

(01:01:27):
was always funny, but now he has a specific role
in the show, like his job is to come in
say uh an important sentence, but at the end give
a singer it's yeah, that's true. Well, he comes over
to me and he says, let's come to my attention
that you're having a RELATIONSHIPSIP with a colleague, and I
need to know about that. M was she naughty? I

(01:01:51):
thought she was all? She was a help, you know what?
Never mind? Never mind, all right, let's let's so we're
gonna say a quick break everybody, as we do, and
we're gonna bringing a guest and talking about and hopefully
they'll be delightful. We'll be right back. So we got

(01:02:15):
all games. We can talk sta you know, like a
boa smoke, some jazz, maybe talking about the episode. So
come on, Joan, let's get the show. Ladies and gentlemen,
give it up for Matthew Choco. Guys, tell us one

(01:02:42):
of you is Matthew. Who's the other? We're bold you.
Oh that makes it very easy. Yes, And I can
just solely tell by your very young faces that you win.
Youngest guest we've ever had show. Ever, how old are you, guys? Nineteen?
I'm eight, nineteen twenty. Oh, well you look you both
look a bit younger, younger, you're gonna your fake id's

(01:03:05):
are not gonna work when you get You're wearing a
merch from the podcast, which we appreciate it. Yes, And
on the wall behind you, is that a is that
what is that behind you? Is that a BoJack thing? Yeah? Okay,
we like BoJack, so do we? Yeah, welcome to the program. Guys.
We're so up when when young folks find the show,

(01:03:26):
because you know, we were never friends level successful the show,
So when when when when younger generations find it? We're
always so happy. How did you guys find it? Discover
your parents or something? Um? I had a friend, one
of my best friends back home, told me, you have
to watch Scrubs. It's so funny. And so I watched it,

(01:03:47):
and then I watched it again, and then I watched
it again. Oh thanks man, thank you man. You know
what you should do. You should tell all your friends
the same thing we do, because your generation is obsessed
with friends and uh and donal would really like in
the office, and you know, but we'd like to we'd
like someone I'd love to you know what I mean. Yeah, guys.

(01:04:10):
This is a Tim Hobart who's one of the writers
of the show, and he wrote this particular episode we're
talking about. Um, Tim, say hi to the young men, matth,
Matthew and Matthew. Tim has kids your age, so he
knows what Joel, Tim's Tim's son is actually our really
good and close friend, Charlie. Really wait a second, Joel

(01:04:32):
hooked me up. Oh Joel, what the hell's going on here?
What is going on here? And there? You know what
is going on here? Trying to here I am bragging
about how a new generation is finding Scrubs. It's the
fucking writer's son's friend. But wait a minute, Zach, Zach.
These guys are giant Scrubs fans and both theater nerds,

(01:04:56):
and one of them is also a sports freak. So
it's like, it's all what you and Donald are about.
I know, you guys are the eye of the Me
and Donald storm if you like, especially which which one
of you like sports and musicals? Wow? The one that
has a Boston Celtics had on, Zach. Oh, sorry, well,
I love that because that's a rare Donald and Bill

(01:05:18):
are both rare examples of the of the of of
men who love both musicals and sports. Yea very small circle.
There's not a lot of us in the ven diagram.
There's not a whole lot. No, yeah, no, there's probably
seven of you on Earth Boys gentlemen, sorry, young men.

(01:05:40):
Did you have a question for us? Yes, we each
had a question. I guess I'll go first. Yeah, okay. Um,
my question is about the guest stars that you guys had.
It relates to the guest stars that you guys had
on Scrubs, because obviously you had an incredible cast there
every week, but you also got to work with like
some really cool people, um that just came in for

(01:06:01):
an episode or two. Um. But I have a question
for you guys. If you guys could guest star on
a show. Oh, good question, Um, what would you choose? Oh?
You will? You already know, Matthew, I do know. I
had a feeling that your answer his answer is going
to come in the form of a of a singing

(01:06:23):
an orchestral theme. D D dude, speaking of the Mandalorian.
Thank you for the beautiful segue. Matthew, did you watch
this weekend? No, I have watched Wednesday. You have not

(01:06:45):
watched Wednesday. I haven't watched The Newest Joel. Have you
watched the book? I know you, I know you did. Yeah.
Bad for the actor playing Boat because people are most
excited about episodes he's not in. Yeah, yeah, that's that
kind of sucks. That does kind of suck. Yeah, that

(01:07:07):
does kind of suck. But I got in episodes he
wasn't in. Thank you, right, But but I will say this,
thank you for not putting them in those episodes and
putting out what you put out, because those have been
two of the best Star Wars period in a long time,
in a long long time, and it's so good that

(01:07:29):
I would even say I could watch that show even
if there's no action in it. I could watch that.
You know, there's something that for some reason, it's not
in a lot of Star Wars movies, and it's always
a small part of it, and it should be way more.
But the training is so fucking fire. Why do we
keep going away from this? Why do we keep doing

(01:07:51):
other things? My point is, fucking h Bubba Fett episode six,
best Star Wars I've seen a long time. Anyway, let's
move on, all right, I'm gonna go for it. There's
a comedy I love called The other two. I love
that great show. Yeah, I think you you guys should

(01:08:13):
watch it because it's got it definitely is a scrub
as he as humor. It's about it's on what is
it on these days? I think it's h bil Max,
h Biel Max, check it out. It's about It's about
a family. Molly Shannon plays the mom and uh and
and there's three siblings and one becomes a huge like

(01:08:36):
Justin Bieber level pop star and the other two are
kind of fuck ups. And it's about the other two
trying to live with like a new mega famous Justin
Bieber brother and it's hilarious. There's two seasons I would
love to be be on that show. That's the one
that first came to my mind. On the other side

(01:08:58):
of the spectrum, I would say Succession because that's such
a good show. You know what. You know what, just
the soundtrack alone for Secession is fucking fire, dude. Yeah.
The theme song is actually comes on up yo. That
song comes on and I'm like a spit game five,
like playing five, like kind of no where to start rappers.

(01:09:20):
I know somebody, some rappers should sample that for sure.
I love a good theme song. Yeah, so anything in
the Star Wars universe. Lawrence and I have a specific
dance we do to the British Bakeoff theme song Love.
It is very brave of you to admit it's a

(01:09:41):
great theme. Okay, next question, Yes, Matthew, Matthew number two revivals.
They're a really big thing in theater right now. I
know we've just got Music Man revival with Yes. I
can't wait, Yes, and Sutton Foster. But Hugh Jackman is
going back, Hugh Jackman and Sutton Foster going back to
Broadway to do the It's it's in previews about to open.

(01:10:04):
It's it's it's gonna be the show of the year.
It's huge. Can he win again? Can he get nominated again?
For that? Though? Is that poss never opened? My bro
Oh wait a second. Didn't Hugh Jackman do The music
Man on Broadway like five years ago? No? You Jackman
and Sutton Foster were going to open the show last
year it got COVID, COVID afied God and so everything

(01:10:26):
got pushed and now it's about to open. And for
those of you who don't know, Sutton Foster is like
one of the biggest Broadway stars there is she's incredible.
She can dance, she can sing. A lot of people
just know her from that show Younger. Oh yeah, you
might know her from Younger if you she's she's awesome,
she's a friend of mine. She's so fucking cool, and
she can She's like one of the best tap dancers

(01:10:47):
on Broadway, and and and and Hugh is a really
good tap dancer. So you know they're gonna do a
big ass tap dance number in music Man anyway, y yes,
you got me all we got me all round. This
is like, this is like you talking Mandalorian I got
AULTI late about the music Man anyway. The music Man.
Just so you know, The music Man was my I
think I probably said this before because we've done a

(01:11:09):
lot of these, but The music Man was my very
first audition for the community theater production. I I auditioned
for Winthrope The Little Boy Um and then got got
a chorus part and did it. But there he goes
my very first audition that was me with Oliver. Oliver
was what did you get? I did get Dodger and
I was also in the chorus, so I got to

(01:11:30):
pick pockets and stuff. Because I love the artful Dodger.
I played the artful Dodger at the at theater camp.
Not to brag or anything, So anyway, producers are looking
to modernize those stories and reinvent important moments. If you
guys could revive any musical, what musical would you choose
to revive and how would you monitor modern Great question?

(01:11:51):
Great question. These guys are on fire. They must go
to I bet you they go to a posh LA
private school Wisconsin in what in Milwaukee? Yeah? I thought
because they were your son's friends that they Oh are
you at Madison mar Mart? Okay, d Wade? D Wade

(01:12:14):
went to Markette Yo, And yeah, and your point. And
not only did d Wade go to market, but didn't
your boy Jimmy Buckets go to Markette too? Yeah, Dame,
I'm not wearing my dwain Wade jersey right now. Wait
for Miami. It's a great question, Donald, Do you have
an answer? So if I could? A trend on Broadway

(01:12:36):
again for those of you who have no interest or care,
is often to take these musicals. Some people do a
traditional version like I think music Man is a pre
traditional version of it, and some people deconstruct it like
there's a touring version of Oklahoma, I recommend if it
comes to your city. You see where they really deconstructed
Oklahoma and did a really kind of out of the box,
darker version of the story. And they're doing some did

(01:13:00):
one with West Side story, so that that's the sort
of trend. But they're they're taking the same music in
the same dialogue and just putting it in a different setting. Yeah,
but it's like saying, like, this isn't your grandmother's Oklahoma.
This is gonna like Oklahoma has some dark shit that
happens in it, and we're gonna tease all that out.
And uh gosh. The first thing that came to my

(01:13:21):
mind was either Pippin or God's Spell. Those are favorites
of mine. Um that could be, that could be, That
could be cool to deconstruct Donald don't say the Whiz
go well, the Whiz was deconstructed. Actually that was the
deconstruction check. I would I would if I could change,

(01:13:44):
if I could, if if he says the Mandalorian, I'm
signing off. I wouldn't turn any show into the Mandalorian,
but I would definitely I would find I would want
to redo chorus line because I think all the music
and all of that stuff is great, and the dancing
is great and takes places on the stage, but theater
is a lot different than it was back then, you
know what I mean, It's way different, and so maybe

(01:14:06):
spice up them, maybe spice up the music a little bit,
change the dance numbers a little bit to something more
modern and everything like that. So if I could do anything,
maybe chorus line would be the one you can't go music.
That was my father's favorite show. He saw you can't
go wrong with that music though. That's why Zach, that
really need this job. Great fucking number. I've got to

(01:14:28):
get this job. Who am I any I know? Oh? Fine?
Ah way, this is the best line. This was the
commercial for the damn show. Who am I anyway? God?
Am I my resume? I don't know what the res

(01:14:53):
didn't know what story about the Spielberg West Side? Another version,
did you watch you by the way? Don't you just
got it to me? Me and my wife have a
date night tonight. Oh good watch it please? Because I
thought it was I granted, I don't know who the
audience is other than me and people who love musicals.
But it's beautiful. The cinematography, Yannist Kaminski, the costumes, the

(01:15:14):
sets that it's uh and a young gal named Rachel
Zelger who is a Jersey native. That's why I root
for her won the cattle casting and is incredible and
I highly recommend you check it out. We're going to
watch it tonight. I loved it. It was beautiful, one

(01:15:35):
of the prettiest movies I've ever seen cinematography. If he
doesn't win, I mean there was a lot of great
Simmons argents here. In fact, Tick Tick Boom, which was
the other musical, which I loved even we both I
loved it and I have such a man crush on
Andrew Garfield. Now, now, doesn't I have a very serious
question to ask the two of you. Yeah, okay, did

(01:15:58):
you like a lot? Oh boy, this interview is over.
Good night, guys. I don't like that pause. Thank you.
We're done. We're done, We're done. Just lie to him.
He used to drunk, used to love you guys. You guys,

(01:16:19):
he used to if you recall, he used to drunk
tweet about it on the airplanes. He would get hammered,
put it on and drunk tweet about. I would get
pissed off about how Emma freaking leaves Ryan for freaking
the dude from the that thing you do. No, he

(01:16:40):
would be like, I'd be like, checking this is back
when I was really reading Twitter, and I'd be like, oh, no,
he's drunk tweeting about and he'd be like, he invested
in her career. Why couldn't he play jazz in Paris? Shit,

(01:17:00):
it's real talk. So Tim, you don't know this, you
know your opinion, But Zach, what do I think? It's amazing?
I love it it has I thought that. I thought
the music was beautiful. I thought the way it was
shot was beautiful. I love both those actors. I think
Emma Stone can do no wrong and I really like

(01:17:21):
Ryan Gosling. I thought it was and people said, oh,
anyone's critique of it, like, I don't agree with. I
love the ending, the way they the way they handled
like the other dimension where they had where things had
worked out, And I just thought it was so beautiful.
And I'm the biggest sucker in the world for a
love that cannot be in love that doesn't work out

(01:17:42):
and directors who have the balls to make movies without
the happy ending, And that's the best part about it. Man. Yeah,
I you know I love I love If you want
to make me cry, the story is gonna be uh
love that cannot be either romantic love familiar love. I'm
just that's that's I'm a sucker for that. M all right, boys,

(01:18:05):
it's time for Wisconsin's favorite segments. It's time to fix
your life the next shit, it's gonna be a mutual fix.
I hope we can help. Okay. Yeah. Um So, as
I said before, I'm a huge, huge sports fan. Um

(01:18:27):
like more than musicals or is it equal? It's equal,
Like I'm a theater major. So like that's what I
want to do with my life. But it's almost unhealthy
how much my emotional status is connected to whether my
team wins or loses. What are your teams out in?
The Boston Celtics? Um So, it's weird because they're all

(01:18:48):
over the place. So the New Orleans Saints is my
football team, Okay, Celtics is my basketball team, and the
San Francisco Giants is my baseball team. Now, what's your
hockey team? The Boston Bruins really yeah? Also Seattle Crack
because that's near where I'm and your cricket team, my

(01:19:13):
favorite tennis player, who's your favorite tennis play Who's you
favorite tennis player on the hands down? Is he the
one that keeps trying to sneak into Australia? Yeah, Djokovic,
stop stop trying to get into Australia. Bron He probably
would have won that Open if he would have got
in that. He keeps trying to sneak in, being like

(01:19:33):
I took I took the horse thing, I took the
horse shit tournament, all right, took ahead. So anyway, Yeah,
the question is I guess, well, he lets sports teams
command his mood. I wake up in the morning and
I check the news and I see another big name
celebrity has passed on, and uh, my emotional tether is

(01:19:58):
a little too close to whether celebrities live or die.
Is emotional tethers determined on whether his team wins or loses.
So I don't really talk to people after the Celtics lose. Okay,
that's that's the question. Is it just the Celtics losing
or is it It's mostly like if the Saints lose
and their season ends, then I'll be like really upset

(01:20:20):
about it. But it's really when Jamimes Winston went out
this year, you were like you were pissed off for
the rest of the season pretty much. Yeah, but I
wasn't like super invested after Drew Brees left, Jameis Winston's
gonna freaking be great for you guys. Is Larry Bird's
still on the team? Not anymore? Come on, I know
about point I learned about point shaving. Is Larry Birds

(01:20:41):
still point shaving on the life blast? And that's blasphemy? Okay,
and we see that. What's the position? I learned? He
was a small forward? Larry Board was a small Larry
Bird position point guard, point guard. No, he was a
small forward. Okay, stop yelling at me, go ahead anyway.
Um So I allow that to like kind of ruin

(01:21:02):
my day. And he was a wreck after Betty White died,
even though it was she was one hundred years old.
But most get an amazing life. Go ahead. What's the quest? Question?
I guess is fix your life? I mean the fix
your life? I guess is how do how do we
not let that ruin our entire days? Well? I don't

(01:21:22):
know if I'm ruin it. Come on, now, you can't
let that shit ruin it Okay, Well, in all honesty,
come on, bros, just ruining that day. So like question
when the Celtics lose. And I understand you're a tired fan.
I understand being upset, but you're talking about like for
more than like twenty minutes, your whole day is ruined
or are you exaggerating? I'm exaggerating. But it also depends

(01:21:45):
on the on like the nature of the laws. Yeah,
the bigger, the bigger the loss of the more it hurts.
I totally get it. Um, I'm gonna tell you something
right now. Yeah, Donald has to answer that part of
the question, because this is the honest to goodness truth.
I got into fantasy foot ball and it made it
so football wasn't that serious anymore because I went crazy
for like a year and a half during football season

(01:22:08):
trying to get my line up in, trying to figure
out who was the best fucking running back to get
me the most points and all of that stuff. And
at the end of the day when I won that,
when I won my fantasy football league, I got nothing
like I got a couple of hundred bucks and that
was it. And I realized my fandom has gone so
far that I'm fucking stressing the little things about So

(01:22:32):
when the Knicks they've never won in my lifetime, they've
never won a thing in my lifetime. I've let it go.
I'm on the path of a Jedi. Now. The job
for you, the job for you, Matthew, is to figure
out a way to understand that it's just sports and
that's all it is. Man. At the end of the day,
you're not with the Boston Celtics. Eat does not make

(01:22:54):
you shit so beautiful and tell my son Charlie that
about the Brewers too. And I want you, I want
you to think about those players going home. They're pissed
off two but then they drive home in a Lamborghini
to their mansions and they're not that upset. They don't
give to you, know what I mean? Like, it's gonna

(01:23:16):
give you a cognitive behavioral tool. What's a favorite food
you love, like a milkshake or a cheeseburger or or something.
What's your favorite thing eating something vegan? We don't know something,
there's something something you both love. Just how kind of
going milkshake? Do? Everybody loves milk? Yeah, So what you're

(01:23:36):
gonna do is when the team loses or the famous,
treasured celebrity dies, you're gonna say, I go, I go
get a giant milkshake, because you at least are gonna
give yourself, your brain a consolation prize, and you'll get
to the point where you'll be rooting for that famous

(01:23:56):
celebrity to die. There's fire. Just didn't. You'll be like,
come on, as he passed, he just that's not well,

(01:24:20):
you guys who do a milkshakes. All right, let's go out.
He always go out on a lapt him coming that is,
always go out on the lap. But who was the
vet that played the Who was the guy who played
the vet at the end that salute? And where the
fuck was he sitting behind the guy? His name is

(01:24:41):
Buddy and he was generator? Yes he was. I was
wondering if you would knew that, if you knew that? Wait,
was he in transportation? Yes, he was about in the
transmitted department. Um, there's a there's someone who monitors the
power generator. He's called the Jenny Op we call him,
and Buddy was our Jenny Op for many years. He
had a great face. Yeah, well at the end, so

(01:25:04):
now instead of going on that left, we're going out
on Buddy's face. Yeah, Buddy's face. Oh, and we should
mention the whole the whole flag thing that was very
very stone rati. That is very sort of because they
took cardboard cutouts. It didn't look horrible by the way.
My my my girlfriend watched it and she was just
in black widow and she was like, how did you
do that? And I said, I don't really remember. For

(01:25:28):
you know, for whatever year it was, it didn't look
horrible for for I mean, there was that what you
what you holding onto the flag that was green screen
that part. Yeah, No, it wasn't. I couldn't tell if
it was green screen or not. You were up there.
I think you were up on that flag pole if
I remember, Carly, I I was up on the pole,
but I don't think. Oh, I was up on the
pole and there was a crane involved whole something had

(01:25:50):
to pull your legs up, yeah, yeah and Downald. I
love how those other janitors just accepted you into their
c Yeah. I'm part of the team too. Well. Yeah, oh,
because I embarrassed you with Carlo's wrong name. Yeah, you
called you said it was something else and I go
and I go and say that to her and she goes,
you think my middle name, and the fuck up shit

(01:26:12):
is that? He goes, You're not even say yeah, you
say you say her middle name is? I knew it
was something Puerto Rican, by the way. That's Bill does
that at parties. I'll be like, hey, Bill, who's that
guy again? And Bill just tell me the wrong name,
and I'll go over and say, yeah, hey, Jim, how's
it going. Yeah, I've done that to people, but it's
really mean to do that. All right, that's the show.

(01:26:33):
You guys have been great guests. Tim I I hope
you'll come back. I swear to god, I had more
fun than I've had him so long. You're a great guest.
And you guys were great guests, and and um, and
thank you Joel for doing it, and thanks and guys,
you're a delight. You're a nice young man. And I
hope that who have our who have our interests, yes,

(01:26:54):
who have our same interests. And let's just hope, Jimmy,
let's just hope. Let's just Mike Jiminski gonna do a Mike.
They don't know who, they don't know who, Jim, I
love you. I just hope that Larry Bird kills it
this season and stops pointing birds on the team. We
get a milkshake, could we? Yes? Yeah, take that picture.

(01:27:17):
This is my picture screenshot. Ready did you do it
so much? You know it's interesting about having you know,
most guests asked for a picture. Um, the young men
were able to do it in under forty five seconds.
Your big laugh second. He always gone big laugh everybody.

(01:27:39):
Five six, seven day Stories about show we made about
a bunch of docs and nurses, And I said, stories
never so yetta around here? Are yet around here? Are showy?

(01:28:00):
Jan mm hmmmm