802: My Last Words

On this week's episode, Turk and JD help a dying patient find peace. In the real world, we've got a T-Mobile Super Bowl hit on our hands. Zach and Donald talk to the team behind the John Travolta appearance we all needed. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, everybody, Donald phased on, Joel Monique and DJ Daniel,
How are you exactly? How you doing? Are you? Bro?
I feel great? Listen. Our Super Bowl ad was a
huge hit. I think Donald, oh yeah, monster head. I
heard a lot of people watched it. It we um,
we feel great. Thank you everybody for watching it, and

(00:22):
uh listen. I think if you listen to this podcast,
you know that Donald phase On and I love musicals.
We love singing and dance, and I don't think either
one of us we were little kids ever thought we'd
get a chance to sing Greece with Travolta. So that
was little little little Zach and little Donald. We're smiling
ear to ear. Listen. I was nervous at first because

(00:46):
I watched the whole Super Bowl and the ad didn't
come on. You thought you thought you didn't weren't gonna
make the cut. I thought we like last year, I
was like, when is it gonna come on? And then
the two minute warning had the most insane placement. That
is amazing. I gotta tell you I don't normally watch

(01:06):
the game, um because I could honestly care less, but
this year I was because we had the spot and
I was. I just I actually watched the game and
it was fucking incredible, Like it made me want to
like get into football. That was such a good game.
If you want to get into football, I recommend fantasy football.
You not only would get into football, you will know

(01:28):
everything about football because you will have that feels like
double black diamond when I'm talking about a green circle.
Now into the right you get into the right fantasy
football thing. All you gotta do is just find a
couple of names. Everyone who's telling me that was a
particularly amazing game. Yeah, but you said if you want
to get into football, you want to watch it, right.
All I'm saying is I get it. Truly watched the

(01:49):
game and I was I got excited to it. It
was such a good sporting contest. And then at the
apex of the fucking thing tied at the end, just
what I was thinking, the same thing, like fucking did
they clutter and add what the fuck? And just at
the fucking apex of the ship they played our spot. Yeah,
I'm sorry, I got excited. All I heard was I

(02:10):
think I'm gonna get into football, and my fucking heart
skipped a beat. I could. I'm saying I could. I
think it was like this is about to level. I
like Mahomes. I'm a Kansas City fan. I think because
of Mahomes, I just like him. He's a good He's
the best football player in the National Football League. He

(02:30):
is the best best, He's the best football player. Yet also, again,
I have a question for you, and this is coming
from someone who knows nothing about the sport, Danil, do
you follow football? Not really, but well, do you follow football?
I'll follow Chicago football until it's clear we're not doing
anything this season, and then tap out. Okay, I know
very little, so you tapped out pretty early this year,
pretty freaking early. Donald felt to me, Donald, since you're

(02:53):
the football expert on the podcast, that the game was
moving so fast. My experience with football is that like
it feels slow and boring, like this just never stopped, right.
I think that's everybody's I think that's I think that's everybody's.
If you're not into football, or you did you don't
watch football, I think that's everybody's feeling of what football is.

(03:15):
But all you have to do is watch, like you said,
one good game like that, and you'll notice that there
are a lot of great games in football during the season,
there are a lot of games like that. It's rare
that it's the super Bowl where you get a good one,
But during the season, with all of the teams that
there are, you get games like this all the time
where it's you know, action packed. Now, my friend told me,

(03:38):
our friend Kerrie Brothers, who I was watching with, told
me that it's like Moneyball, the movie Moneyball, in a
sense that some of these young coaches are doing things
because of stats and numbers. That it's like going on
like going on fourth down. I don't I never again,
I don't watch much football, but I always thought no
one went on fourth down and they were on fourth
down like crazy. Now it's all analytics and like football

(04:00):
is a great analytical sport because you can play it
through and that's what fantasy football is. You're playing numbers,
you know what I mean, and what you think. You
know players will do based on what they've done in
the past. And that's how coaches play football too, you
know what I mean, you have you know, players play
it with their heart, blood, sweat and tears and stuff

(04:22):
like that. Coaches who don't play football are playing the
numbers and who they think has the best odds of
beating this and what plays have the best odd of
you know, should we be in a nickel? Should we
be in a dime? You know what I mean? You
know what I mean? Are we going to go in
a shotgun? Right? Well? I just saw that, you know,
Kerry was telling me they've done some things to make

(04:43):
the game move faster. They've done some things that are
changing up the sport because to make it more exciting.
I told I just saw in baseball. They My brother,
who's a baseball fanatic, told me that they've made the
basses bigger to inspire stealing, because stealing has become less
popular and they want to encourage stealing because it's exciting. Dan, Yeah,

(05:07):
it is exciting. I mean, I don't know about that
from like a stat standpoint, that may or may not
be true. I mean, I believe you you're telling me.
Why would they make My brother, who's like obsessed with baseball,
told me this because because I read in the news
they made basses bigger. I mean, stealing super exciting. All
I know. I know analytics plays a big role in
baseball as well. You know, to be Moneyball, that was
an amazing movie. If you haven't seen an audience Brad.

(05:29):
You know, you had me in Brad Pitt. But it's
also an incredible movie. I don't know if analytics plays
that big of a role in basketball, but in baseball
and in footballis nodding totally of course, absolutely drawing fouls
so you can take free throws. That's like, you know,
that's the gamesmanship of the NBA, like it used to
be if someone went up for right. But they're trying

(05:49):
to eliminate that though. Yeah, they're still figuring out ways
around it. I mean, but what I'm saying, somebody like
James Harden, who went to the line like twenty seven
times twenty eight times a night, is now going way
less than that. So you're right, this is a change
that's being made. But the question was our analytics applied
to things like basketball? And the answer is certainly yes.

(06:11):
By free through free throws, that's what you're saying, through
free throws, through defensive choices, like, there's all sorts of
things that apply it to like you know, the games
and ship that goes into being better at basketball. But
Shack Daddy always Shaq Daddy always says, you know, analytics,
shmanalytics you know what I mean, I kind of agree.

(06:32):
Agree When it comes from basketball, man, you can't. The
creativity that comes in basketball is way different than the
creativity and football and in base So we'll have to
have one of these coaches on in the near future
to talk about how they use analytics. I would love
to have a coach. I would love to have Popovich, Popovich,
Jason Kidd, Mark Jackson. I would love to have any

(06:53):
of them on this show. The only one I've a
coach I've met and I'm embarrassed and I forgot his name,
So don't judge me. Everyone but the Clippers coach? Wait,
which one they have? The doctor Doc Doc Doc. He's
not the Clippers coach anymore. He's the Philadelphia seventy six
I've met him a few times. I met him a
few times, and I have a friend who's friends with him,

(07:14):
so he's he's a chance we could get. Maybe I'll
be amazing legend. My uncle is a basketball coach. It's
not coaching right now, but he was. Who's your uncle.
His name is Jim O'Brien. He coached the seventy six ers.
Coach the Boss, Jim O'Brien is Jim O'Brien is your uncle. Yeah,
it's my uncle. What he knows about animals? Okay, I

(07:39):
don't know if our audience, I just don't know if
they down after the show, if they want to go
down on basketball wormhole right right, well, this might be
enough for I do. They might have said, Hey, guys,
thanks for the sports talk? What else you got? Right?
When thanks talk? When are you going to talk about Scrubs?
We are going to talk about Scrubs, but something else
I wanted to talk about. We're trying to think what
it was. Oh, there's so many things I want to talk,

(07:59):
so many things to talk about. Are you going to
talk about the Last of Us? Daniel, and And and
Joel want to watch the latest one, The Last of Us?
So you're watching the Last of Us? Now? I'm actually
going I'm obsessed with finishing the Boys because it's just
so incredible. I watched the hero Gasm episode, Yes, that was.

(08:21):
It's just such a fun show. The writing is so good,
the acting is so good. There's no reason. It doesn't
make any sense that those leads have not been nominated
for awards. I know they do. You know that these
I know that they Awards. People stray away from action.
But the talent on this show is is just incredible,

(08:41):
A great, great show. I'm really loving it. Um, that's
what I'm watching lately. I'm a little behind on the
Last of Us. It has been good. I'm not watching.
I'm not watching. I haven't watched it. You only miss
one episode if you watched episode three. Episode four is
the only other one that's out now, Donald, did you
want Are you excited? There's a marvel thing coming out
and here's something you weigh in? I don't know you're
excited for aunt Man three? Well? You know former cast

(09:04):
member of mine from well known movie called Clueless is
the star of aunt Yes, so he love everybody loves
Paul rod Donald. I was not invited to the premiere,
but I I appreciate from Afar how well he's done. Um, Paul,

(09:28):
way to go aunt Okay, everyone else, Paul, are you
excited about the movie? Doesn't look like it? Joel? I
am very I am you saw saw it good? Yeah,
you don't have to spoil anything. Give a two second review,
which I know Joel so well. After a hundred and

(09:51):
we've done one hundred and fifty episodes of the show
and I know, but she's gonna be so tactful. Watch
she's gonna be Look, everyone has the things they like.
The action in comedy is spectacular, truly, it's it's so funny.
It's one of the hardest I've left in an MC

(10:11):
movie in a minute. I just think Disney has to
find a way to bring actual fear because that is
how we empathize with characters, and it's what I think
really brings an audience into that dope. Yeah, and it's
what makes it mean. If you look at the last
to the Infinity War an end game, their fear all
we're worried about Iron Man? Is Peter going to come back?

(10:32):
Like there's a lot of you know, they were really
able to build in fear into those movies, and since then,
I think, all through Phase four and now as we
tiptoe into Phase five, that fear is gone. I need
to worry that someone's gonna die. I need to really
the stakes need to be beyond the world by end.
But now it might be love these movies, but now
that they've killed Iron Man and Captain America, it's so

(10:54):
hard to develop that who are you going to fall
in love with? Again, Peter Parker. You know that can't last.
So everybody's geared up and ready for that to happen,
you know what I mean. Yeah, but you've seen plenty
of films where the stakes are just is this person
going to say I like you back? Is right? You know?
Am I gonna earn my parents' trust or respect back? Like,
you don't have to have an end of the world

(11:15):
scenario in order for us to really empathize with what
a character is going through. And I wish Marvel would
make smaller, more emotionally impactful movies so that when we
get to these big events, were right along the edge
with them. Okay, let me say this, Joe. Well, it
took them ten years to get to Phase four, so
everybody was really invested in those characters, right Phase four,

(11:37):
Phase four and five seem like they've introduced way more
characters than they did in the first three film might
say too many, you know what I mean. So it's like,
who are we supposed to fall you know what I mean?
Who do you fall in love with? If this is
the thing they're gonna have to figure out going forward.
But I think it's why we're willfy night. It was
such a success for me anyway, It so good of

(12:00):
watch like they should do this. This is what I
think they should do. Blade Werewolf by Night, the dude
from Freaking the Eternals with the who was about to
pick up the sword was the name of that group
that they have ghostwriters. They need to do the freaking
supernatural version of Marvel here for it, because look, check

(12:21):
this out. Blade was the number one movie until all
of this stuff came around. Blade was the number one
ali doing it now so it's going to be dope.
I still think they should let Wesley have some sort
of shine and this bad boy because that sailed it has. Yeah,
he's been back, but look, let me tell you something

(12:42):
right now, man, he carried that franchise for a really
long time. Dude, Wesley Snipes was the what a comic
book hero was until freaking fig He took over of
all it. Fig He might even been the producer that
as a matter of fact, you know what I mean.
And Figy turned Captain American iron Man into superhero. But
before that, it was freaking Blade that was the number

(13:03):
one dude. It was better than all the Batman movies,
all of that shit. I'm getting loud again, I said,
I promised I wouldn't get loud. I'm sorry, Yeah, don't yell.
I know Wesley Snipes had issues with paying his taxes,
but why did he why did he disappear beyond that
because he went to jail. Bro Oh, he went to
jail for not paying his taxes. Yeah, man, oh, you
gotta pay your taxes. Eddie Murphy said that shit play.

(13:25):
The more you know music, you gotta pay. I'm gonna
say something right now, man, I do believe that. And
I know that he can't, he can't be Blade anymore,
but I honestly believe that you are missing an opportunity.
If Wesley Snipes isn't in some ways kicking somebody, isn't

(13:46):
kicking somebody's ass, and like watching Wesley kiss kick ass,
that's what you're saying, dude, Wesley didn't look If Harrison
Ford can be in the Marble Universe, Denzel should be
in the Marble Unit, like all of these cats should
be up in there, man, because what about Donald Faison.
I mean, I feel like I feel like they have

(14:09):
a better shot than I do. Listen, we have a
surprise for you, Daniel. Will you let Kevin Figgy into
my shot. He's here hilarious and he has something he
wants to ask you. Kevin anyway, yo, but sincerely like,
I think Denzel should be in the Marvel universe. I think,

(14:31):
and I also believe. I feel like, in all honesty,
I feel like, you know, um, DONALDA should have No
I'm just kidding, No, I feel like I feel like
Wesley Snipes should also be universes tirade everyone about never

(15:12):
my last words. I gotta tell you, Donald phase on,
I think this is one of the best Scrubs episodes
of the whole run. Yeah, I hands down. Okay, but
there's a problem. There's a problem with that. I'm just saying.
I'm just saying this is a top ten. A lot
of a lot of our actor no doubt, a lot
of actors from the show aren't in right, nobody's in it.
It's me and you. Uh. Carla has one appearance, but

(15:35):
no Elliott, no Cox, no Kelso, no Janitor. I'm sorry
all those people. They're in nine of the top ten.
But I think this is a top ten or I
would go as far as to say top five, top
and we owe it all everyone to the magnificent Glenn Thurman. Yeah,
who plays George. Um. I don't know if Bill got

(15:57):
the idea for Glenn because I had directed Glenn pilot,
a big pilot I directed and he was one of
the leads, and maybe that put him and I told
him I'm just sure they'll knew who Glenn Turman was,
but that may have put him in Bill's mind for
this role. But man, did Glenn Turman at the end
when he has those tears in his eye, like, I'm

(16:19):
getting goosebumps thinking about it right now. Yeah, you know,
so a little known fact Glenn told us while we
were making this episode. I remember this episode. I remember
making this episode and thing, this is gonna be a
great episode just because we got to witness what he did. Anyway,
but while making it, he was like, you know, because
he found out I was a huge Star Wars fan.

(16:40):
He was like, well, you know, I was supposed to
be Han solo And I was like what. He was like, yeah,
you know this, it's in the books. You can look
into books and stuff like that. It's true. He was like,
but they knew that it was gonna be a relationship
with a white woman, and at the times weren't ready
for it, and I was like, oh shit, he was

(17:01):
also married to Aretha Franklin. A lot of people don't
know that. I didn't know that either. You know, when
others are you off topic, well, a divergent topic is
I just learned that Pacino was offered off the off
the off the mega stardom of Godfather one. He was
offered the Han solo part, and he turned it down
and he read it and he was like, what is this.

(17:23):
I don't know what the house going Yeah, look at this.
I was just I just saw him at A Q
and A and he told that story and uh and
it was It was really funny hearing him tell how
he just didn't understand what Lucas was going for at all.
I just didn't get it. It's well, and you know,
Lucas and Francis Ford, Coppola or Titus can be like yeah,

(17:47):
and and and and this was right off that. This
was right off Godfather where he was the hottest doctum
in town. And of course, as every a lot of
people know from the lore, the studio didn't want Peccino
at all for The Godfather. They fought him in fought
Coppola over and over and over again. In fact, I
learned from this Q and A that Coppola moved up
You guys will love this story. He moved up the

(18:09):
infamous scene where Michael Corleone shoots the police captain and
the other mobster in the restaurant where Michael finds the
gun behind the toilet, because the studio was so intent
on firing Pacino that he said, you know, we're not
supposed to shoot that scene for a month. We're shooting
it next week because I gotta give him the scene
that's just going to blow them out of the water
and shut them up. And he did that. They shot

(18:30):
the scene. He never heard from him again. Nice, nice,
oh man. And he thinks Coppola has had to do
to make his movies great. Where why do people constantly
fight that thing? I know, I know, I mean think
about think about the movies he's made. Okay, that's just it.
That's the same thing with George Lucas though. Man, the

(18:51):
studio thought Star Wars was going to be a piece
of shit, and look at where it's at now. Can't
look at mine? Your mind makes you think of Mike
White At the funniest part of the Golden globes when
he's all drunk on talking about white loadus too, pointing
at the audience. You meaning like you all passed, your
passed and you passed. It was hilarious. All right, let's

(19:12):
focus on scrubs and TV shows. So it was written
by a scene botcher and directed by a young man
named Bill Lawrence, who crushed it. Bill rushed its lighting
was amazing, the look of the whole show. I mean,
you know a lot, you know, young man once told me,
he said to me, you know, regardless of what happens,

(19:35):
you'll you'll you have your story to tell. You have
something to say, and people are gonna want to hear
it eventually. And Bill, let me tell you something right now,
you were saying something with this episode, Bro, you really
were a man like you You, I mean, you and
a scene you both captured something. Because you know, it's

(19:56):
rare that I get emotional watching something that I've been
but I was very proud to be a part of
this episode and to be on camera and in the
same scenes with Glenn Turman. I'm telling you right now,
and well you too, Zach, no doubt, no, but I
agree with you. And it's just really it's you know,
it's one of those special ones, like like like like

(20:17):
the funeral with with where do you think we are
with with Brendan and and it's just one of those
ones that just or My Old Lady, which I think
was one oh three or something, it's just one of
those special ones. It's like, whoa, this is how this
is Scrubs at its best. It's so silly at certain times,
you know, with the whole stake, nights song and all
that stuff, which we'll go through. But then then you

(20:37):
go Glenn Turman dying with his tears in his eyes,
and it's just fucking hell. Like the fact that this
is done in twenty two minutes and you've experienced all
these emotions, it's just the high it's just the high
bar for for what a great team can do in
twenty two minutes of TV. And I'm I'm I felt
also very proud to be a part of it. Let's

(20:58):
get into it. Let's get into it. Okay, So we
start with um Jordan at the computer, Jordan at the computer,
and and and Courtney's character Doctor Maddox. Really she's she's
a mix of being able to go friendly and soulless.
She tells Jordan she looks old, which cuts right to
her heart because no one wants to hear that, right,

(21:20):
but this also don't And I get told we look
old all the time, which is I get. I get
I look tired a lot, which yeah, it's like, we
understand that people grew up with us looking young in
our twenties, but we don't. We don't want to hear
that we look old. We know, No, I don't want
to hear that. Shit. It doesn't feel good. Um, but
you know, I'm sure you'll continue because hater's gonna hate
write Taylor Taylor Swift flifter just gonna hate, hate hate.

(21:44):
Haters aren't gonna hate hate, hate hate. Um, how do
I know? Love that Miley Cyrus song Flowers? I can
buy myself Flowers? What's the Scissor song you were singing
that I like too? Oh? Freaking uh? I just killed Max. Yeah,

(22:05):
I just killed my ex. What a bad idea, dad too.
I was listening to a Spotify Charts top charts list.
I think it's the number two songs in the country.
Check it out. It's the melody is amazing, very hooky. Yeah,

(22:25):
um um okay, so then we have a fantasy where
doctor Maddox tries to kill a patient because she's just
so hardcore. She she she's worse than kelso it seems,
but she but she has a way of turning on
the super friendly because she's so beautiful and charming. But
then she's just as cut through it as Kelso that
was pretty good to seeing with her choking out the yeah,

(22:46):
the pillow with the pillow, this guy die, right, And
then we have um Um Joe and Ed her name
is not what's her character name, I call her name
facts of life. But Denise, right, Denise just has no
bedside manner. Stand Ed is just winning everyone over. He's

(23:08):
Jady kind of hates him because he's very charming and
and he's getting catchphrases going, and Jady's trying to start
rumors about him. He says the churk I heard he
smokes plants. Yeah, and Ed has the ability to start.
His superpower is he can start trends quickly, which brings
Deonte Gordon, who was my standing throughout Scrubs, back into

(23:34):
the episode. This is his big episode, this ses. So
we say steak night, we do our steak night, Steak
night right, right, Yes, and then and all of a
sudden Ed comes by and turns our steak night. He
goes Great Fellas, right, turns our steak night cry into
a trending topic in the hospital. Yeah, and so, but

(23:57):
what did he say too? It wasn't he goes. I
think he he copies it. He goes, and then he
goes Gravy Fellas. No, he says to Deonte, may your
onions always be such and such, and may your mushrooms
always be sauteed and your onions always grilled. And then
he goes, and then he goes to then he goes
to us, and he goes Gravy Fellas when he's leaving,

(24:19):
and then I say cream spinach yo, And you're like,
don't do that. Don't do that? You know A Z's man,
I really, I I'm not gonna lie. Man. He if he,
if he would have stayed on the show, he would
have boosted our freaking our comedy in a lot of ways.
Man Like he was. This is not stuff that was written.

(24:41):
This is him riffing off the top. If I remember correctly,
he was like nine was he No, he did he
he was smart, He got out he saw it he
saw the light at the end of the tunnel. No,
but why did he only do three? He must have
must have had something, because he went on to do
Parks and wreck. Yeah, you're right, parks and wreck, Parks
and wreck. Okay, but but look, if I this is

(25:02):
an ass bill thing. But I think he had the
choice between doing that and scrubs and he was like
this shit is almost over. Well that makes sense, and
also he would have been an original cast member and
I'm sure paid more money and all that stuff. Yeah. Um,
So then we see an administrative assistant that seemingly for

(25:23):
no reason, has the sexy saxophone music with the slow motion.
It's so funny that it's always bad. Man, He's always
that fucking sound, which sounds as ass like. It sounds
like it should come with my my my mixer thing
like this. Okay, I don't understand. You said the wind

(25:51):
blows in her hair. You didn't say anything about the
light or the boobs like in this one, she literally
pushes together. And then we come back and I'm holding
a hot dog. Yeah, there's a couple things going on here.
Most of the women who come through and do this
are our guest stars or Sarah or Christa and they're

(26:13):
having like a sexy interest, but none of them push
their boobs together. Um, this was a model, I assume
who was hired to be a beautiful woman. But she
actually pushes her cleavage together. She puts a little little
sauce on it, pushes it together to the right. You know,

(26:35):
it was nice, like it was Yeah, it was good.
It was a moment for me. Yes, so she looked beautiful.
But and I'm like, why are they We know the
audience knows this gag. Why are they doing this? And
I went, Oh, they're setting it up for the payoff
later with the senior citizen woman doing it right, that's
the only purpose. That the only reason that because the

(26:57):
audience knows the convention that we do in scrubs. But
they kind of I think Bill felt like, oh, we
need to remind them of this convention so we can
make a joke off of it with the old lady later.
I'm just gonna say one thing. I don't see anything
you're gonna regret. I'm not gonna say anything i'm gonna regret.
But when the old lady did it at the end,

(27:19):
didn't know did you get no didn't you feel But
when the old lady did it, didn't you feel like? Like?
So here's how I look at it. As I've gotten older,

(27:39):
my taste has gotten older. Right, So if I'm Glenn's
age in the bed, George's age in the bed, if
I am right, there was so much other as he said,
asked in the building? Right, what made him choose that? Well,
everyone has their unique taste that I think as you

(28:01):
get your taste goes up. I think that I perhaps,
but it doesn't matter to each their own. His. It
could have been a it could have been a male orderly,
or it could have been Jordan. It could have been anyone,
but his thing, his with God, him shifting was that
senior citizen with the gray hair in the in the
slow motion and the wind blowing, and she didn't do

(28:24):
the cleavage thing. No, she chose not to. I think
she was in a patient gown. So what's the hot
dog pen? You do a hot dog pen thing? So
every time uh JD goes into this, Turk tries to
take advantage right of him losing focus right, not being

(28:45):
present right, and he thinks he's he thinks he's caught
himself before he's gone too far. But Turk has already
got him with the hot dog pencil. So JD has
a pin or grabs a pen and it's real a
hot dog and he's trying to write with a hot dog. Yes,
and then you call me honky face, which is weird.

(29:09):
That's weird, man. I know, that's like out of nowhere.
I know, I think honky even though people don't use
it anymore, was still funny to us in two thousand
and eight. Yeah, but that's like out of nowhere. That's
just like out of nowhere. It just came. You probably
improv did I imagine? No. I would never call you
honky face on television. I would never just be like,

(29:34):
honky face, what is it? Honky face? But hearing you
say it now still makes me giggle, So I guess
it worked. So what I forgot about the famous Steak
Night dance and song, which I want you to know,
Donald and I made up on the spot, both the
melody and both the melody and the choreography we made
up on the spot. We didn't know that it would
be sung by by men and women across the globe

(29:56):
to this day. That pose at the end is this
This isn't the origin of steak night, is it? It is?
This is the season eight is the origin of steak night.
You guys have a steak night earlier. I want to say,
in season six. I don't believe we've ever heard that.
There's no song, the song and dance Donald. I remember
on this day Steak was like, you guys like, make

(30:17):
up a song and a dance about and we just
literally I'm pretty sure Bill was like, no, the song
goes we go instant. We should ask him. No, I
can tell you we made it is the world. That's me.
We made that up. We made it a steak night.
We gonna stay eat it right well, and we didn't

(30:38):
make that up. That's freaking uh. Eddie Murphy because your
Daddy's and alcah like, hey, alcohol want to lick sich
like because you are on the well, you can't afford it.
You can't afford it too much. That's from Eddie Murphy's

(31:01):
Delirious everyone. If you're looking for a reference, um, yeah,
maybe we were subconsciously inspired by that, but I mean
it's not like it's a fancy melody or anything, but
that I remember us going like, what the fuck are
we gonna do, and we came up with the sort
of dance and the hold at the end. I don't
mean that shit is so random, but it's the faces

(31:22):
and the commitment. Like we were just that we performed
a number for the breath out of breath. What about
the fact that, um, I've forgotten that the room has
to be clear for the dance to be performed. We
had to check both ways to make that. Poor nurse
interrupts us to actually do our jobs, and like started

(31:44):
an IVA on someone and we screaming, I'm doing the
state night and then and then we say and then
we say that we're going to finish it in the
bathroom of the restaurant, meaning there's another verse. All right,

(32:04):
We're gonna take a break and we come back. We
will talk about m j D and Turkey and George
Glenn Turnan. We will be right back for every bad
I gotta tell you, man, you said it. You said

(32:25):
it in the beginning. This is one of the best episodes.
I wrote that so many times in my notes, like
just even for you and I. As as far as
j D and Turk goes, this is up there with
the Jason Bateman episode. This is up there with the
with the Heather Graham episode, Like this is a great buddy,
you know, buddy episode, and we have a few of them,

(32:48):
but this is the first one of season eight one.
But this is a good one too, you know what
I mean. Like all I also like about it is
there's so many, so much of Scrubs as us in
a heightened state. You know, we're where you know, it's
a it's a comedy where we're being broad. The fantasies
are super broad. I always love it when Scrubs drops
in and we're just playing it completely real, and this

(33:11):
this episode has so much of that. You know, there's
a lot of humor. Obviously there's something as silly as
the stake night dance and all the other stuff, but
you know, you and I and and and Glenn are
playing the stakes of his death so real and it's
just felt It just felt so natural, I really think.
And obviously Bill Lawrence is directing it, so it's going

(33:33):
to be extra good. But but um, I don't know,
I just love the three of us just sitting there
and acting and it didn't feel scripted. It felt so natural. Yeah,
I loved I loved you know him saying he was afraid,
and us being like, I mean asking us if we
were afraid of death, and us being like the characters

(33:54):
Turk and JD being like, nah, man, you know, I
work at a hospital. It's kind of and it's easy
for me to think about death now because I see
it so much. You know, it comes with the territory.
I know everybody's going to die eventually. And then for
them to have that one eighty turn at the end
of the show where they're like, no, dude, I'm terrified.
I was bullshitting before. I was just bullshitting. I'm scared

(34:17):
of it all the time. You know. That was amazing.
And then realizing oh, we've taken it too far, and
then having to rescue him or rescue his fears with
what we think is after death. You know, there's so
many great moments. I was gonna say, it's a really
nice bookend with my old Lady, which which isn't I

(34:38):
think the third episode of SCUS in one where we're
losing our first patient, right and JD is literally being
comforted by the woman dying, saying she's ready to go.
And now eight years later, you see us we've experienced
a lot of death. We're so cavalier about it that
we're like, oh, it sucks. So he seems like a
nice man. Let's go to dinner. Though it isn't all

(35:00):
until we find out via Ted that he doesn't have
any family. He lied to us about having family to
come visit him. Um, that you see, you see, first
of all, what good men the two characters are that
they're that they that they have the empathy to go
fuck fuck state night, dude, Let's go be with this man.
It's probably his last it's most likely his last night alive.

(35:22):
And I don't know. It's just an interesting there's interesting
parallels back to my old lady. I think, yeah, absolutely
so he has eschemic bowel disease, which when when j
D and Turk look at the chart, they know what
that means and they can see all his vitals and
they know that he doesn't have long and um, and

(35:45):
then probably they know that it's probably that night they noticed,
probably gonna happen soon. Now the comic relief here is Ted,
who Um, it's very funny when when when when Glenn says,
don't worry, I have a young, handsome lawyer who's taking
care of my will and Ted goes, oh, I thought
it was me, and he rips up the document. He goes, Ted,

(36:08):
I think he was talking about you, and he goes, oh, man,
I tie, I wrote this on the typewriter. I'll be
back in eleven hours. And then when they show him
when the typewriter, when we're talking to him, and he's
literally one yeah button every three seconds, like his typing
in high school. I never took typing, but you know
there were people that like I could type. I wish

(36:30):
I had. Don't you wish you had? Oh my god.
If you got kids in high school, make sure they
take typing, because listen, they will be able to text
you so quick. I wish I took typing. Can you
guys type without looking at the screen, yes, without looking
at the keyboard. I never took that class. I wish
I took it. I'm a writer, and I'm pretty quick.
I'm pretty I'm pretty quick with mine, with my packing.

(36:51):
But man, I wish I took typing that beacon. Yeah yeah.
For some reason, they can't do my password regular typing.
The people like him. The second I have to remember
my password, I'm like, okay, Orange Juice three obviously I
could do it now. I should probably do it now,
but I don't know. I just I type pretty darn
fast when I'm writing my scripts and stuff. But I've

(37:12):
always whenever I see someone going on without looking, I'm like,
you motherfucker that Casey can do that. She can. It's
all those kids that took typing in high school. We
learned so much bullshit in high school. You remembering the proofs?
I do not need proofs. Yeah. You remember in the
Color of Money where Tom Cruise is playing pool and

(37:32):
he looks over his shoulder and taps the ball into
the hole without looking, the eight ball into the hole.
That's how Casey is with typing. She'll be like, typing, typing, typing.
I'll be like, Casey can ask you a question, and
she'll look up at me and you, uh huh be
typing while she's looking at me, and I'll be like,
and I'll be like, is there any can you tell

(37:52):
me where the uh where the sure I'm this is
gonna use this as an example. Can you tell me
where the ball? Gag is? Oh my god, that story
of you guys having sex last week was so funny. Anyway,
Danie'll play the more you know. So, parents of kids

(38:13):
going into high school, I'm telling you make them take
typing Daniel, the more you know, thank you. Um okay,
so oh that was also funny when we so he
wants a cigar and we're like, we can't. You can't
have a cigar. It's gonna blow up the whole ICU
because of oxygen. But we can go get your beer.
So we go get him a beer and that's when

(38:33):
we run a cress Ted who's trying to type again.
And it's the funniest part. Ted tells us that he
doesn't he's lying. He doesn't have any family, and but
I laughed so hard when he types and he goes, not, gee,
do you remember that? Like I remember old school typing
and there was a there was a backspace button, right,

(38:56):
it wouldn't it? Yeah, you could go over the like
you But did you have to use white out or where?
Or did it? No? It would have the white out
in if you had a really nice typewriter, it would
have the white out in the tape also, so you
would go back right and you could go back and
and delete one letter, yeah, or more than that. Sometimes

(39:16):
you could delete more than that. But you would have
to press today. I'll never know hids today will never
know white out Donald and then to bold something and
remember you'd have to go all the way back and
then type the word again, and then go back and
then type the word again to remember bold. I remember
white out man. Now, kids today they'll never know white

(39:38):
out Donald. Motherfucking kids barely know what pencils are. This
is true. There is no cap, no cap. Oh yeah,
I'm oh man. I remember. I remember back in the days,
like with the with the five inch floppy of it

(39:58):
like not working and like you lost your whole fucking
have you ever had that happen, like like by four
auto save and before everything, like old school five inch
floppy and like all of a sudden it's all gone
like ms dos, like it's all gone, and you're like,
where is it? Where is it? It's gone? No. I
remember Floppy discs. I remember that shit. I remember that.

(40:19):
We were the hard disks that came after Floppy that
was three and a half inch floppy right now, drive No, No,
there was there was the hard ones before that. There
was the there was like the five and a half
inch Floppy. There was actually floppy literally, oh no, I don't.
I'm literally only thinking of the the hard ones. No, no, no,
you don't even know this. What hold are you again?
Thirty three? Yeah, you're way too young to know. Look

(40:42):
at Google image on your computer right now. I think
it's I think it was called the five and a
half inch floppy just floppy floppy disk. I mean like
they still called they still called the hard plastic ones
floppy disc I think, yeah, they weren't say they weren't floppy.
These were actually floppy. Okay, do you see that? You
see that little tape in the middle for it, the

(41:03):
thing in the middle, just like original floppy discs. I
think it was like it was about this big Dane.
It's like this big and it has a circle in
the middle that has Yeah, I think I see what
you're talking about. They were actually physically floppy. Yes, you
could bend it. You could you bend it and everything.
You wouldn't want to bend it. You'd be upset if
somebody bitch your floppy disk, but you would put it
in your drive and you never seen everything. Yeah, yeah,

(41:26):
the big black one, the big black one. Wow. Wow,
you guys never saw this crazy blue and so and
so was and so was the one the five and
a half. That's a floppy disc too. Yeah, that's the
orange one. I'm not I don't think one was floppy.
That was floppy, I know, but Donald I never I'm
not talking about those. I'm talking about the black one. Yeah,

(41:46):
that's what I'm talking about too. Yeah, we'll share this
picture on Twitter. My very first um video games I
ever played on a computer were word games. So it
would be like you've entered a large room and you
would type in like move towards the window, and it
was like him in the beginning of Freaking Big where
he's playing the game with the ice, remember that, But

(42:07):
there's no there were no graphics telling them to take
out the trash and he's playing one a second and
he's trying to type it. Are there no graphics? It's
just words? No, there was there was graphics. Oh I'm
talking about a game where you had a physical map
that came with the game, maybe, but there was nothing
on the screen. You were just words and you'd be like,
moved closer to the window. It's like you have moved

(42:28):
closer to the window, like and that your fortress. I
don't know what it's called. Okay, but it ran on
MS DOS hell yeah, um, anyway, I didn't play that game,
and then I and then I graduated to um the
smaller plastic floppies, which all the Sierra games were on those. Yeah. Yeah.

(42:52):
Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of Lounge Lizards. Yeah,
that's one of my favorite games ever. Two when I
was a kid too. And then leisure Suit Larry go
on a cruise. The cruise one that was part two.
My parents let me get one two and three. I
don't think our parents knew what they were so we
were allowed to play it. Well, yeah they didn't. My

(43:13):
parents weren't clocking what leaders Suit Larry was. Yeah. No,
they weren't paying attention to that ship. Was it inappropriate? Yeah,
he's trying to have sex. Oh, not familiar. And the
land A lands in Vegas in one and in the
opening scene in the opening part, if you can make
it to the prostitute up on the next level with

(43:36):
the prophylactic, you had to go buy condoms like all
that shit, Like if you didn't, you died as soon
as you left, and we had sex. When you had sex,
it would it would go. It would have a black
box that said, sense, you're on it, but we would
move the black box should move like you were, like
you were. You could probably if you're listening in your

(43:59):
curious I'm sure you could go on YouTube and finding No,
you can find you can find a game on your phone.
I have it on my phone game. I'm just saying,
if people wanted to see who we're talking about, just
go on YouTube and look up the very first edition
of leisure Lounge Lizards called leisure Suit Larry in the
Land of Lounge Lizards. You know, it was crazy, was

(44:19):
trying to get past the test in the beginning, you know,
the test that they would give you a test to
prove you were over eighteen eighteen. That would be crazy.
So they would ask you questions. Remember I remember it
was hard. You had and you couldn't like google it
obviously back in right back in the day, you couldn't
google it. But they would ask you questions that theoretically
only an eighteen year old would know. And eighteen year

(44:40):
old or older, yeah, exactly what is the G spot?
And you'd be like like that. It was like it
was like I forgot what it was. But they were
some of the questions. Some of it was some of
it was based on how experienced you were, uh sexually
well not set as a human being though, you know

(45:02):
what I mean, Like, there was no way we can
answer these questions. I remember having the guests and I
would guess, and if I got it wrong, I would restart, yeah,
and then guess. There was only a certain amount of questions,
so you would just learn what the answers right, right,
And then eventually you just remember, oh, that's right, this
one is by one's Roosevelt, that one's Roosevelt. Right. Do

(45:24):
you even remember that? I do? I forgot it, And
then I remember I think we spoke about this. Four
There was a hotline and and because there there's no
way to like google, uh cheat codes or in, so
you would call on the phone, and god knows how
much it was a minute, right, And I would feel
so guilty because I was like, I was gonna get
in trouble. My parents are gonna be like, what the
fuck is this on the phone bill? But I would

(45:45):
call and you would be like, if you're stuck on
level three plus three and you press three, if you
can't figure out how to buy the condoms, press two,
and I mean just say prophylactics you had to spell
patic whatever. We couldn't say condoms you had to spell
pro was And then it was a record. No I'm
saying on the phone line. It was a recording. And
then it'd be like, you need to ask the pimp,

(46:06):
and I'd be like, oh, I didn't try and ask
the pimp. Hang out, and and that was the clue.
That's what you got clues. And then your parents would
get a build for like thirty dollars because you did that. Yeah,
it's too funny, all right, Yeah, anyway, j D was
a mask guy. Well, hold on, we go buy we go,
buy beer, condoms and a flare gun because because j

(46:30):
D felt emasculated because he only was going to buy
one beer and the guy was like, wow, big night,
and to make up for it, to puff his chest
out and feel more manly, JD chooses then to buy
six pack, condoms and a flare gun, which all come
into play at some point and m and then in

(46:51):
the in the elevator, well, we don't know in the elevator, Uh,
we don't know what happens in the bathroom when they
finished the State Night song. Are you implying that we
just don't know what the second half of the stake
ninth song is. We never learned. But bro, when you're
in the fucking elevator and you're and you're and you're

(47:12):
pretending to fire flares, and I go, you're good at
that for you, so um okay, so um. Then I
then I we tossed Glenna beer and I say I'm
allergic to barley, and um, You're like, really, is not

(47:35):
the truth? Yeah, Church says, tell him the truth, and
I say, I don't like beer. Um, I prefer Apple
teenys they make me feel fancy. M hmm. The guys
try to crack George George's hard persona by asking him
questions and and stuff, and he's just giving them one

(47:56):
word answers and uh. Then truly they get to football,
and George responds to football because he was an old
high school coach, and Turk says, you know, I played
football in high school. I was the safety. Yeah, I
had a lot of fun doing it. And then he
asks JD did you play football? And j D says no,

(48:20):
I was the mascot for a girls volleyball team. Yes,
and I wore a bandanna and a have shirt and
then at Away Games, I wore spurs, which doesn't make sense,
which didn't make sense because we weren't the cowboys. And

(48:46):
then Glen George, trying to be nice, says, you must
have felt very What did he say? You said you
must have felt very beautiful? Oh, very pretty? I said
I felt beautiful something like that. Um, what about that fantasy?
What about the fantasy of what they're gonna do with
me when I die? What you're gonna do with me
when I die? I'm not there yet. Okay, I'm not

(49:10):
there yet. Cougar Town is formed, guys, Yeah, cougar Town
has formed. Live on the air, they literally talk about
being Cougars and Mills. And then the very next year,
the television show cougar Town premiers on ABC. Yeah. Um,
that's true. And Bill always regretted the title. It's always

(49:31):
it always was a thorn in his in his finger?
Is that the expression in his side? It's on his side?
Or what's the But I think I think people, you know,
use a colloquial of like, you're a thorn in my side,
But thorn in the paw is the legend. Okay, well,

(49:53):
either your paw or your side. Bill always uh regretted
calling the show cougar Town. He thought that it hurts
the show. Um, because the show is better than the title.
That's what he would say if he was here. So
we cut to a fantasy of what JD. What's going
to happen when j D passes away? What the Turks

(50:14):
are gonna do? Yeah, and we we assume, because Turk
is holding an urn on his lead from the director
that they're gonna burn j D and sorry, they're gonna sorry,
they're gonna cream ate j D down to ashes and

(50:34):
put him in a urn. Right, And so they're watching
TV and Turk has the urn on his lap and
Carlos says it's creeping me out a little bit, and
you think that she's talking about the urn, but then
he goes, what that? And we cut to j D
next to rowdy, stuffed like a dog. Yeah, on all fours,

(50:59):
on all four, presenting, presenting very very well. I might add,
Oh my god, is that too far? No? I think
I tried to stay as still as possible, But I
think in post they really stilled me, because yeah, because
it would have been impossible to look like attacks of
dermy human But um, I don't think that's legal, but

(51:24):
it was funny. I don't. I don't think that's legal either.
I don't think embalming. Did you notice at the end
of the show for the first time, instead of like
an extra scene, they made it. They showed like an
outtake when you and I were just riffing on on that.
Did you see that? Yes? I did? Yes, I did,
And then Bill added, But it was funny. I like

(51:48):
the idea of instead of doing a little scene, let
doing bloopers. I don't know if that became Oh, I
don't know what we did this year, Like, I don't know,
but that was just funny that, Like, it's a cool idea,
like instead of doing like a quick little seeing on
the credits, do like a funny blooper. I everybody loves
a blooper. You know what everybody also loves? What's a

(52:09):
lesbian cloud? Oh? Yeah, so we're reintroduced to the lesbian clouder.
This is the second time that JD and Turk's version
of Heaven is discussed. It starts in a milkshakeh pool, Yes,
and then after they enjoying the milkshake pool, they go
over to a lesbian cloud where they could be smarter

(52:33):
if it was a bisexual female cloud, because if they're
if they're just they don't want they don't want to partake,
they just want to watch. Oh oh, I feel like
the lesbians would have a problem with that. Is that
their idea? Well, this is our heaven, you speak for

(52:54):
the queer community, but this is j and Turk and
Jad's version of heaven. Joell, Okay, we have sil versions
of heavens. So it's fine. The milkshake cloud is right
next to the shakedown, right, the milk shake pool is

(53:15):
right next to the lesbian cloud. Yeah, I get a
deal here, all right, all right? So um okay, so
Jed we find out Jad hates edge. Well. Ed has
got this whole new saying going and it is so recognize.
JD likes to think he's the most popular one at
the at the hospital, but Ed is really gaining traction

(53:36):
with popularity. He trends really fast. I mean what I mean? Yeah,
it's like trending now Ed whatever Ed says trends. And
he's come up with a new thing called recognize. When
you diss somebody and they burn you and they turn
your disc into a burn, Yes, you must recognize, right,

(53:56):
and then we see he even got ted doing it.
Record Nay, Sam Lloyd rested. Man, he did such a
wonderful job in this episode. Man, Well, I'm glad that
he lives on through his humor because I gotta I

(54:18):
have to say that rewatching this, that man makes me
laugh every week. Yeah, and think of all the people
that have seen this show and laughed and and and
so I'm happy that Sam has such a legacy because
he doesn't have a lot of lines in every episode,
but every single one of them makes you laugh. I
was so moved by um by by Glenn's performance when

(54:40):
when he has those tears in his eyes and he says, well, okay,
I'll just go I mean, that was just such beautiful
poetic acting. There's a lot that leads up to that.
First of all, I'm jumping ahead. I'm sorry, but I no, no,
no, no no, you're not jumping ahead. But let's backtrack a
little bit. We spend most of the episode in this
one room, this man, and we get to know him.

(55:03):
Within twenty minutes. We get to know him. We find
out things about JD and Turk that we didn't know,
you know what I mean, We get we get it
gets very intimate and by the time it gets too yeah,
long beard, stinky pants, that's when that's when the emotion
starts to kick in. But the emotions kick in with

(55:25):
the comedic start to a story that ends with you
know JD saying, you know he had he you know,
explaining how this dude was thought his father was such
a great person, right, and you will be remembered. So
you're not just gonna go get everybody's gonna you know,
somebody out there is gonna remember you. You will have

(55:46):
impacted someone somewhere, you know what I mean. And that's
when you know what I mean. So then he asks
the question, well, how's it going to happen, and then
they explain it to him, Well, this is gonna You're
probably gonna get tired, You're probably you know what I mean,
Your oregans will start to fail. And he's like, well

(56:08):
I feel pain, and I'm like, no, we'll manage any
pain you have come in your way, and then you'll
just go. And so when he says so I'll just go, Nah,
all of the stuff that came before that, all to
build up from that scene. Oh, it's earned, man, you
know what I mean? And he that that moment. That's

(56:31):
why it's so, That's why it's so powerful. All of
the stuff that we did in the beginning of this.
You know, you say, it's a it's a it's a
it's a testament to Bill's writing to do it all
in twenty two minutes. But they did it in twenty
two minutes. We've gotten to the point where I'm fucking
balling on my couch watching this scene later this many

(56:52):
years later. Yeah, you know what I mean. And it
opened up so many fucking things for me, you know
what I mean, just about life and things that I've
gone through since then, you know what I mean. And so,
and it all starts with long beard stinky pants. That's
the crazy thing. Well, that's the genius of Bill's writing
and obviously has seen Batra and the whole team. But um,
you know with JD's even JD's ramp into everything you

(57:15):
just said is a very is a story about about
his his dad. Um. But it's but it's got silly
stuff in it, you know what you're saying, with the
stinky pants and everything, but it's also so moving because
it's a story about what a good man his father was. Um.

(57:35):
It's just just really great writing. And then of course, um,
the performance. I mean, uh, I think you and I
are good, but but Glenn is just fucking next level. Yeah,
And it's just so it's just so um, it's so
moving and and it's so real. You know, it's it's

(57:56):
the show's a comedy, but it's really genuinely seeing a
wonderful actor get you into the zone of facing mortality
and how how is it going to feel when I
take my last breath? Um? And that's when it gets
really you know, when he's like, then they we go
into the montage and all of that stuff and their community,

(58:17):
you know, they're having great conversations and you know, laughing
and everything like that, and then he says, I'm getting
tired well, and they also don't forget in there. There's
also a moment that JD says, um, I think it
would be great if the if, the if your last
memory is a good one, right, if the very last
thing that you think of is is is something good?

(58:40):
And he's laughing, and he's he's laughing right before he
says to us, you know, guys, you know, I'm getting
a little tired. And he and he asks the question,
you know, oh, take a nap, take restaurant, man, That's
what they say. And he's like, we will you be
here when I wake up? And they say yes, hm,

(59:01):
knowing that he's probably not going to wake up. Yeah,
that was beautifully done. And then it cuts to the
roof of the hospital where we're sitting in lawn chairs
and turrets drinking a beer, and and then JD fires
a flair and from the flare gun they bought into
the sky in George's honor. Yeah. Really good, such a

(59:26):
great episode, really really good. It's one of my favorites.
All the fields, man, I'm getting the fields now. Yes. So,
so here's some trivia I found on Scrubs. Wicky Neil Flynn,
Ken Jenkins, Sarah Chalk, and John c mcginny do not
appear in this episode. No, Elliott, Cox, Kelso or Jenks
says this is Scrubs will get off. It's true, but

(59:46):
it says an alleged sipulation for Scrubs being picked up
for season eight on ABC was the show needed to
cut costs, so every main actor is absent for three episodes,
except Zach Braff and Sarah Chalk, who only missed two episodes,
you missed three episodes. I did. I remember this? This
was I remember when this happened. A lot of things
happened this year. A lot of our pay went down

(01:00:09):
and everything because of the hiatus that we had in between.
I remember I was making way more money before we
moved to ABC, and then when NA happened, things changed,
and I remember, I remember that. I remember, I remember
the show not having enough money to pay everybody for

(01:00:34):
a certain amount of episodes. This is when catering changed.
Remember we didn't have do you remember this. Remember we
used to have the truck and we would eat lunch
outside and everything like that. Then it became a walk
away after that. I remember that. I remember that. Yeah,
I mean this was. This was the beginning of the end.
Even though this was even even though this is one
of the best seasons, Yeah, so far, this was the

(01:00:57):
beginning of the end. It says a writer received bacher
Want a Humanitas Prize for this episode, which is a
very um esteemed writing award. In the episode Stop Dragging
My Heart Around of Bill Lawrence's show Cougar Town, this
episode is running on a TV screen in the background,
so it's clear Bill was proud of this too. Yeah,

(01:01:20):
Carla only appears in the fantasy about Stuffed jd Um.
Turk and j D's plans for their first day in
heaven echoes their plans from the episode My Way Home.
When Turk and JD are talking to their patient, George
Tchurk brings up the fact that he played football and
that he played the position of safety. And the movie
Remember the Titans. Donald Fazon plays the running back Pete

(01:01:42):
Jones who gets moved to tight end. I don't think
gives me safety. I did, he gets moved to linebacker. Sorry,
you should probably know that he gets no. So I'm
telling you what does the safety do. It's like it's
the dude that stops the wide receivers from catching passes.

(01:02:04):
You love a wide receiver. I love anyone next receive
something wide? Oh, we love. We love receiving wide things.
Your favorite thing is receiving wide things. I do. I
do love receiving Why I I like it when it's
so wide that it doesn't fit through the door. Yeah,
you can't even receive it. You love it when you

(01:02:24):
can't even fully receive it. I love it when it
doesn't fit. Um, all right, Okay, on that note, all right,
we're talking about packages, right, what a great episode. We're
talking about wide packages pages. Okay, just making sure sure
we're talking about wide, big packages. And we're gonna go
to break and we come back. We are going to
have a performance review for our Super Bowl commercial to

(01:02:47):
see how we did. We're gonna check in and and
make make sure we made the people that hired as happy.
Donald and I want to hear if it was as
big as it was in our minds, We'll be right back. So,
uh listen, we wanted to, uh, you know how some

(01:03:08):
jobs you can have like a a performance review. I
had a job. I've never had a job like this.
Do you have this at I heeart a performance review?
Actually don't, but I have had. All other jobs are
jobs where you get a performance review. So we wanted
to invite Brian Klugman, who you guys remember is our friend.

(01:03:30):
He wrote that beautiful children's book. He's also we call
him the Don draper of of of the whole T
mobile campaign because he's the creative who Kim comes up
with all the ideas. He came up with the grease idea,
he came up with the one with Bradley Cooper. We
wanted to have Brian back on and some folks from
T Mobile to say, Donald and I wanted a performance review.
How did we do. Let's let's assess how our heart

(01:03:53):
commercial went over? Yes, let us assess this. We're needy.
We're needy mofos, and we want to know if we
did we did well by them, and we know you
guys want to know how well we did. Also, Yeah,
we think we did well. We got we know. Lets
just let's just get a performance review. Let's some guide in. Um,
Brian and the folks from T Mobile here they come,
here they come. I'm gonna get my thunderous applause button ready,

(01:04:19):
what's up, guys? Brian Klugman, you handsome mofo. You know
you do get handsomer and handsomer every time. And also
those glasses, Donald, you could Brian is wearing hipster, very
hipster glasses. Audience. I could not pull those off. Donald,
I think maybe you could. I've never I've looked at

(01:04:39):
this thunders. We are so blessed to have our friends
from T Mobile and Brian Klugman here. Uh, guys, we
decided we wanted Donald and I are very needy and
we wanted to have a performance review where you could
tell us, you know, as as employees, of how we

(01:05:00):
did did everything go overwhel We were just wondering because
we haven't heard from you since the shoot, and um,
you know, are are you happy? Yes? Did you want
the critical feedback first or the constructive feedback or the
good no? No, no, don't do anything critical that we
will will spiral out. We're very neurotic. Um. Wow, what

(01:05:22):
an amazing year again, you know, I think personally and
I think the the stats back this up. This was
the number one Super Bowl commercial of the year. Really,
it's literally the most viewed piece of content that T
Mobile has ever created. And I think, you know, when
when Peter and I look at these things, there's kind

(01:05:43):
of two main things that we look at. One is
do people remember the company and the brand that advertised
And this spot in one of the main surveys that
we looked at, was not only in the top five,
it was number one number one spot and brand. And
then the second big thing that we look at, which
you guys like knocked it off the charts for us

(01:06:04):
last year because remember we had you know, the spot
last year like this one talked about our broadband business
and we had we were the fastest growing broadband company
in America. After that spot last year, we looked directly
at the business results and we saw all of our
business metrics. I can't get to the specifics on those yet,
but all of our business metrics off the charts after

(01:06:24):
that spot ran. So we are really excited about how
it went. Wow, it's so feel too. But anyway, I
want to introduce you guys. Sorry, this is Peter de
Luca and Mike Kats from T Mobile. And I mentioned, um,
the if Don Draper were more handsome, it would be
Brian Klugman more handsome and more of Jewish. Yeah, jis

(01:06:45):
the Jewish Don Draper. Um, Mike. That's so great to hear,
because you know, Donal and I our only metric was
um was the views on YouTube. Well that and then
and then a comment in our Instagram, you know what
I mean, like comments like well, I guess I'm switching that.
I'd love to hear that. But you know the thing

(01:07:06):
about the spot is you brought great joy to a
lot of folks watching the Super Bowl this year. I
mean it was just so engaging and so fun and
reading all the comments, I would have to say, you
saw a lot of love from your fans out there. Yeah,
it's interesting. The world is full of haters, right, we
know that, and especially on the internet, everyone is faceless

(01:07:27):
in control. But there was just such singularity in the
amount of love for this, and I think you know,
I mean, you guys break me if I'm wrong. I
think we made it with that kind of joy and love.
I mean that was a pretty magical set to be
a part of. Yeah. Yes, well since stay one, and
also the Bradley Cooper spot was huge. Yeah, I was

(01:07:48):
just gonna say, what a great campaign, what a great
super Bowl campaign, you know what I mean? Bradley Cooper
like that did astronomical numbers on YouTube as well, not
only during the Super Bowl, at the day after the
super Bowl. Can you tell us about that? Yeah, I mean,
we were so proud of both of those spots, and
I think, like Peter said, like, um, they did all

(01:08:09):
the things that great advertising should do. They sucked you in,
They were fun and entertaining to watch, They felt unique,
They didn't feel like anything else that ran on the
super Bowl that day. And when you when you left
watching the spot, you knew exactly what company was from
and what they were talking for, and and so so
many ads I think get that wrong, and these ones

(01:08:30):
were like awesome at getting it, this this one and
the one with Bradley Cooper. I will say to these
guys on the phone, who who literally made the spot possible? Uh,
Mike and Peter, who, like, you know, at the corporate level,
you don't always get partnerships of people who see creativity
in this way and are willing to fight for that creativity.

(01:08:51):
I think when we first showed the concept of you
guys just singing to Peter, he said, let's go produce
that right this second, regardless of what anyone didn't even
let him see it. Yeah. I wanted to ask you, Brian,
because this is just I think this will be interesting
for our audience, you know, for people out there who
don't know, you know, I'm assuming the average person doesn't
know how a commercial gets chosen or selected by a

(01:09:13):
big company like this. So can you just explain a
little bit like how does the how does the process work?
And also, you know, for you guys, how many concepts
do you look at? Like how does just give us
a little layman's version of how the process works of
picking a Super Bowl commercial. Well, I can give it
from our side, even though we're all on the same side.
But I mean like I can take it so far

(01:09:33):
until uh, Peter and Mike step in. Um. But you know,
Andrew Pinney and I as you know, pay is uh
my partner and you know it's Pinna Films as the
company we work under, and we get together sometimes we
bring another creative people and we just kind of talk
about we get what these guys kind of tell us

(01:09:54):
what we want a message. We knew we wanted to
message home internet right the mobile home internet. So we
start talking about ways that we can do it now.
We did it last year with you guys, so the
question was like, how do we do we do it again?
Is that boring? The super Bowl has to be a surprise,
It has to be an impactful, impactful So we knew
we wanted to raise the bar. We had to have

(01:10:16):
a surprise. Zach, You and I actually talked about Greece
for offline, you know, beforehand, and then we started thinking, well,
as you do, Grease, what if the surprise is a
new neighbor moves into the neighborhood and it's John Travolta.
So we started, we wrote the lyrics. You guys came
in and recorded some song, recorded it for us. And

(01:10:37):
then this in addition to about you know, six other
seven other things, we took to these guys and showed
them a approach to all of them and this obviously
was one they just gravitated to and a lot. You know.
It's one more thing I'll say is between this and
the Bradley Spot, like they're kind of disparate, they're different,
they're very different. But I think what's really uniting Tembile

(01:11:00):
and what these guys were responding to on this college
they were united by joy. They both had this like
joyous factor and so we took it to them and
then Peter Mike, I'll let you guys take it from
there because that's where it kind of hands off to
you guys. Well you know, you know, and Brian's right,
like they bring they brought six or seven different ideas
to the table, and like literally when I saw the

(01:11:21):
idea about redoing Grease, like I literally was like, Brian,
we got to just get this in pre production. We're
going to sell it through because it's going to be
a super Bowl spot. You could just feel it from
the moment of watching the little trailer you did in
performing the song for us, and that when you did that,
it was just we knew, we knew we had a
hit even before we ever set out to Actually we're

(01:11:44):
recording the spot, so it's kind of exciting. And then
you have to weed through ideas because the core thing
about it is Super Bowl is well it's a place
for big brands to show up. We still have to
get core messages out there. And you know, you've established
a franchise with us, you know him last year of
our little cul de Sac neighborhood, and what better way

(01:12:04):
to go back and you know, really elevate the idea
is to bring in a new neighbor Like it was
just it was just a solid concept. Did you guys
think that it would I mean, did you have any
idea that it would be this successful? I mean I
certainly didn't. I mean, I hoped we wanted to deliver
for you guys again. But when Brian called me and
told me what a hit it was, Donald and I

(01:12:26):
were just thrilled, and I wondered if you guys had
any And I know you trust Brian because because he's
really great at what he does. But did you have
any clue that it would be this much of a success. Um.
I mean when we saw it, we knew it was great. Um,
so we we we loved it, and I think I think, honestly,
what was surprising to us. We knew that we knew
the ad was great. But last year when we ran
that spot, literally, like I said at the beginning, um,

(01:12:49):
not not very often in advertising do you see an
immediate response to when you when you put a message
out on TV, especially nowadays, like a lot of times
there's a delay and people need to see these things
a few times where they take an action. We literally
saw from the Super Bowl last year when we did
when we did that commercial, through the end of the year,
an immediate spike in this broadband business and one that

(01:13:10):
was so significant that literally we did more broadband connections
last year than every other broadband kind of company in
America combined. So it was it was kind of it
was kind of mind blowing, and honestly, that was that
was a big reason why we were excited, because I mean,
it's shot up. It was crazy, you know, like it
was like you guys aired last year, and the sales
literally instantly. I mean it wasn't like, oh, six months later.

(01:13:33):
It was like an instant reaction. That's very rare in marketing,
and and it was a real testament also, like I mean,
you guys haven't been together in it hadn't been together
in like a public form in that way. I think
in a like a while other than America's Favorite podcast,
Brian think Doctor's Real Friends that that we're on right now.

(01:13:54):
Obviously that I mean I realized, I don't don't look
at the charts. We are America's fair podcast, right. You
don't need to look at the charts to know that either.
I just don't look well. When they saw you together
as all I'm saying no visually Brian, yes, visually visual
and in a visual medium. Uh, they were. It was
just incredible. Man. I mean, people just love you guys,

(01:14:17):
and uh, I mean John has called so many times
and like, I love those guys. I want to work
with those guys, Like I know, this so fun. We
did an interview with Variety where John was like on
the call and he said to the Variety reporter, he goes,
I really think the three of us should make like
a real musical, and he said, I said to the journalists,
the go sir, can that please be the headline of

(01:14:38):
your Just throw out a quick pitch while we're while
we're on T Mobile the musical. You know what, hold on, Klugman,
you might be onto something. Because I was going to
ask that is does does can T Mobile make movies?
Does it work like that? Can that happen? Anything can
happen this day in this Dnah child, there's all sorts

(01:14:59):
of frontiers. You were working the right people, Peter, Mike
Mobile make movies, Brian, bring us, bring us a script treatment.
We should make a short by the way, you know,
I mean I directed a short um Sorry to Live
pitch on the air, but I directed a short film
for Adobe and it was really awesome. We made this

(01:15:20):
really amazing short and it was just kind of like
Adobe Presents and then it was you know, the branding
wasn't obvious. It was there. People knew Adobe made it.
But we could do We should do something like that,
like just like a T Mobile short film, like you know,
like me and Donald on some adventure. Hey, Mike, I
have a question for you, because the timing of the
spot could not have been more ideal. I don't normally

(01:15:41):
watch the game, to be honest, I'm not a big
sports guy. But I was fully watching this game. And
first of all, I'm told by people who love football
that it was an incredible game because I was on
the edge of my seat. But when when you pick
a spot, do you pick a spot? Do they give
you a spot or how or is it just a
roll of the dice. Did we ended up in that placement? Yeah? No,
we picked the spot and we were really good. I mean,

(01:16:04):
you got lucky, lucky. There were so many things that
just really helped us. It was a great matchup the
Super Bowl. That was the best ratings of the Super Bowl,
like in six years, and it was like the third
most watched super Bowl ever, so you had a huge audience.
And then the freaking game was tied at the two
minute warning, so everybody was still watching. So it's a

(01:16:24):
risky spot. It's a very good bye and a blowout
that spot. That spot nothing right. Yeah, but we purposely
when we went in because we were like analyzing all
the playoff games going into the Super Bowl, and when
we had to select and finally get the position, We're
like we believed there was going to be a good

(01:16:44):
game going in, which is why we said, you know what,
roll the dice, take the position, and then the game
just totally came in, which I was about to say,
Speaking of which, the last time I saw you guys,
other than that the commercial was in Vegas. Did you
do Yeah? Well, I mean, obviously if you need betting tips,

(01:17:07):
I go all in, man and we and I think
we won. Story Donald Donald texted me. Donald was, you know,
redoing his house a new house, so he didn't want
to bet any money. And he texts me He's like,
I'm not going to bet at all. Um, Uh, you
know I'm putting too much money into this house. I go, dude,
you're in Vegas. Play with a couple thousand dollars, have
fun and uh and he goes, you're right instantaneously, like

(01:17:31):
to Mississippi. Later, I get a text from his wife.
She goes, what are you doing? I go, what are
you talking about? I go, he's alone in Vegas. Then
him gamble. She goes from there, goes my new stove.
Can we can we just nerd out for a second
on what it was like and how awesome it was
to make a commercial with John Travolta singing Greece dude

(01:17:56):
Ye was that? I told Donald, give him just chill out,
don't get it all up in his face right away
about anything about you know, questions anecdotes. Donald's like, you're right,
we'll be cool. We'll be cool. Three seconds later I
look over Donald's like, my favorite part about face off
when I asked him everything and he answered everything to

(01:18:18):
very generous man. But um, you know, it's a dream
come true to work with someone like John Travolta. I'm
gonna be honest with you. I didn't think it would
come through advertising, you know. I thought maybe it would
be through a movie or something like that. But this
is probably one of the most unique experiences and awesome

(01:18:39):
experiences ever because of how the response, you know, the
response I get from my family, the response I get
from friends. You know, I'm doing a sitcom right now.
And I went into the writer's room and the writers
at the day after the Super Bowl, and that's all
they wanted to talk about with me was the commercial
and what it was like to work with John Travolta.

(01:19:01):
And I was like, shit, you know, I knew, I mean,
we can curse. This is my podcast I'm allowed to
curt but anyway, Um, I was like, you know, shit,
johnshra Volta is That's I knew he was a big
deal because I was a big fan. But the fact
that the question what was it? Like, you know what what?
What did he look you into? Eyes? Like everything? Like

(01:19:24):
I was like, we talk about longevity. I mean I
used to watch fucking Welcome Back Carter, right, I mean,
look at this man's career and how epic it is.
And then there's been so many chapters and then the
Quentin Tarantino with pulp fiction, just like a whole new, constant,
constant reinventions. And and I would saying to John the

(01:19:45):
other day, I was like, I think I think this
is like people forget how like you know, he's played
so many bad, tough guys and all that stuff as
of late, and like he's the I mean so charming
in this commercial and his smile and seeing him be
playful and fun, it's it's like this is a great
and he goes that's closest to who I am and

(01:20:06):
the stuff I like to do the most. Yeah, he
loved it. He was having so much fun. Donald and I,
you know, we both love musicals. Everyone listening to this
podcast knows how much Donald and I love singing dancing musicals,
and um, you know, I went. I literally went to
theater camp and my and my friend. My friend texted
me after the ad he goes, Wow, theater camp finally
paid off. Well, listen, we want to thank you guys

(01:20:33):
so much for coming on. We want to thank you
for for for trusting us with with the spot. But
also I'm just congratulations, not just on success of ours,
but on the success of the Bradley Cooper One and Brian,
you're you're a legend, man, You're you're You're so talented,
and thank you for I can't take the credit. We
gotta throw it to Pinney too, man, he's us and
of course your partner Andrew Pinay uh sorry, I got it.

(01:20:55):
I got can't just can't do it. But h but
you guys are incredible and I think we're I think
we're just getting started. Man. I think your idea of
Zact of making some short shorts, let's do some musicals.
Let's just go make a couple. I think that's like
a great repetitive thing. And Bryan, I think you could
write some t mobile lyrics to lame is. I think
that's super easy. All right, guys, thank you so much,

(01:21:21):
Thank you guys. We love you guys so much. All right,
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