Our Favorite Early Success Stories

On this week's episode, Joelle rounds up some of your favorite stories from Zach, Donald, and our guests on their early years of success in show business.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Eagle up in the sky. J D and Turk just
flew by. Take a look, it's in this pod. It's
story time now, you guys, Hello, I'm your host today.
It's very weird just being here by myself in this room,
but I'm super excited because I went on to Twitter

(00:24):
and I asked you guys, the fans, what were your
favorite stories from the podcast? And you guys hit me
up with a ton of stuff, so many options for
me to choose from, and so I decided that perhaps
one story time wasn't gonna be enough. We were gonna
need multiple because there are so many different types of stories.

(00:45):
Is that you know? The stories we're gonna do today
are about our beginnings, the early times from a lot
of our guests as they were just breaking into the industry.
We get a ton of letters from you guys who
are aspiring actors, direct dir's writers, sort of photographers, animators,
and so I kind of wanted to revisit because I

(01:05):
remember when I first got to l A and I
was trying to figure out what am I gonna do?
How am I going to make it out here? It's
so expensive, I have only my college experience. Who will
hire me, and it was so hard just trying to
figure out like how to break in. And I think
for me, hearing the stories of people who had already
done it is what continuously encouraged me to go after

(01:30):
my dreams. And getting to listen to these guys and
Sarah Chalk obviously Zack and Donald Johnny C Like, there's
rich stories of just survival, of situational comedy, of bonding
and love. And I think that's what we're really going
to discover today as we go back to some of
these really early stories. So stay tuned and let's hear

(01:53):
a couple of stories. Five, six, seven, eight, here's some
stories about show we made. Doctor Nurses story are so

(02:26):
First up, we have a story from Johnny C. This
is all the way back in season one, episode sixteen.
Um Johnny came and talked to us a lot about
what happened around nine eleven the Macy's Day Parade, the
first gathering that was allowed in New York City post
the attacks. Um, and he gives us such beautiful, wonderful,

(02:51):
loving insight to how a lot of the emotions are
played throughout scrubs and why downplaying can sometimes be the
us thing for an actor or a writer to do
if they want to impact their audience, because it feels
more authentic and real. Something that strikes me about Johnny
C every time he's on the podcast is how much
he cares about this art and his craft. If you

(03:13):
haven't listened to one sixteen in a while, I highly
recommend you go back. It's an excellent episode. There were
many stories to pick from, but it couldn't resist hearing
Zack talk about his nephew throwing gang signs one more time.
So stay tuned for john C. Here we go. We
should start right off because I have some ideas. Go ahead, Johnny,

(03:35):
go ahead, because you have You guys have to grind this.
And I'm so excited that some things occurred to me
while I was watching this thing. I love when you
come on, you know why, because you come prepared. You're
like you're as prepared as Donald and I. You're like,
you're wound up. Well I am. I think. Look going
back and watching this, first of all, it's hard not

(03:56):
to feel really proud of it. Yeah, and this one
I thought deserved from backdrop because the one last Week
one is a spectacular episode. Zach, you're particularly great in
that episode with Sarah and then the monologues with the shrink,
let the whole ensemble just shine. And I busted my
ass on those monologues because the writing was astonished and

(04:20):
you noticed there's no cuts. I mean, we were clearly
all told that they yeah, they were, especially since Donald
knew it. So we were clearly all told that there
would be no cuts. But what I thought was really
interesting and maybe interesting for people listening is a little
bit of context. And what I mean is because in

(04:40):
this episode, it's it became clear to me just how
jelled the ensemble is. Whether it's Kenny and Judy, You
and me, Zachie, Donald and Sarah, the thing is just
water tight. And the reason is because I think now,
as we discussed already, nine eleven had already occurred, were
around about the middle of December here, and so what

(05:04):
happened in New York, which I'll circle this back, was
the New York Yankees lost the World Series in seven
games to the Arizona Diamondbacks. And the only reason that's
relevant is because they lost. There was no ticker Tape
parade in New York City, so we were invited to
the Thanksgiving parade in New York City, and it was

(05:26):
the first taste of real rock star for all of
us because we worked till Wednesday night until about and
this was a week or two before this episode, and
then we were whisked off to l a X where
we occupied the entire front of first class. There was
only one other person. There were only one other that's right,

(05:48):
and it was a It was a boy band. It
was like, uh, oh Town or something like that. We
shared first class. It was the cast of Scrubs and
Oh Town. I remember. It might as well have been
a private plane it wasn't, but it was first las.
It wasn't coach, it was first It wasn't business class,
it was first class. And we were going to New
York to participate in the Thanksgiving Day parade. Now remember

(06:08):
there had been no mass gatherings allowed in New York
since that Tuesday morning in September. There's just wasn't allowed.
The Yankees were supposed to be there, but they weren't.
So we fly overnight, and you guys can chime in,
but we fly overnight, we go, we're deposited at some
chapel on the Upper West Side somewhere. We didn't even
go to the hotel. We just they dropped us off

(06:30):
at the freaking parade. We were like lying on the
on the ground in the chapel too, And we got
sideways on the plane. Yeah, sideways as you do. And
and then we we got up and Zachie, I think
you brought your nephew onto the float and it was

(06:53):
a quasi racist kind of Pocahona's float um and he did,
They've gotten, They've got and ridden some of those since then,
I think, yeah, But I absolutely I think our well,
here's the Scrubs cast and a quasi racist Pocahona's float
on the upper west side in the staging area. And
who pulls up behind us but the Wiggles in the
big red car. Now I had gone to Wiggles concerts

(07:17):
with my son every time they're in Los Angeles for
the last couple of years. I was eating, sleeping, and
drinking the Wiggles. So I got off the float and
I went back to the big Red car and introduced
myself to Murray and Jeff, and I introduced myself to everybody,
and I became friends with the Wiggles, and I am
to this day. Do you hang out with the Wiggles.
Still not really, but I did a video for them,

(07:39):
and I they became my friends. There. My memory started
interrupt one second, Johnny. My memory is that my nephew
was a very outspoken kid and not shy at all.
And I don't know how old he was, but he
was little, and we wanted to be like nine, dude,
no younger and younger younger. Here's a little kid, And
so Al Roke we're off the flow at one point

(08:00):
and Al Roker's interviewing us, and he goes, and I'm
here with the cast of Scrubs and I've got Johnny
c McGinley and Donald Fazon is going around introducing the
whole cast and my nephen live television. And my nephew goes,
what about me? And Al Roker? It's awkward, and Al
Roker ignores him and starts so tell us about the show.

(08:20):
Guy interrupts him again, what about me? And finally Al
feels bad enough that he's like, oh, I'm sorry, young man,
you're right, and what's your name? And then he introduces himself.
But I was like, it was my first throwing gang
signs to like he didn't he didn't, he didn't know
any like real gang signs, but he had seen on

(08:42):
TV how how how rappers and whomever throw gang signs.
So we're on the float and he's like throwing these
like almost gang signs. When I when I spoke to
Al Roker after after he cut, I said, how how
is this for a turnout? And he said, this will
be the largest and out in the history of the
Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade. And I said, well, give me

(09:02):
an estimate, and he said, they'll be about three and
a half million people here. And so every time we
went through an intersection, and I'll wrap the story up
in a minute, but every time we went down an intersection,
you could see it was a hundred to two hundred
people deep at every intersection. I've never seen that many people.
I never will in my life. Yeah, it was that was.
I remember being like, wow, there are so many people here,

(09:25):
and we were on the float and every You're right,
every time we passed an intersection it looked like it
went so deep into the intersection. I remember thinking, how
are all of these people? It was like sardines too,
like they were packed together because nobody had been allowed
nobody had been allowed to gather since that Tuesday. And

(09:45):
the other thing I remember is that my nephew was
was on the float and he I thought, oh, this
will be fun for him. He was he was bored
in thirty seconds, right, and I was like, oh funk,
I gotta take care of this kid for a whole parade. Yeah,
we had to. It's all the way from Uptown, all
the way to Macy and he's thrown to stay gang
signs for a while. And then he got bored of that.
And then there was like an upstairs in the float.
I don't know if it was like it was like

(10:06):
in Pocahona's head or something. Well know, it was a
multi tiered ship that yeah, but even like in the
in the in the non outside area, there was some
spot he found and then he went up there and
he found bubble wrap and I was like, okay, fucking
bubble wrap will entertain him for a little while. Then
he got over the but he was stopping on the
bubble wrap and I was like, this is I'm never
having kids, this is like the worst. What about my

(10:31):
My only point bringing this up and I'll circle it back,
was that. And also remember a couple of weeks earlier,
actually about a month earlier, we had been picked up
for the back nine, and we ran around the hospital
with their HUDs cut off, and so that meant you
had paychecks until May the first week of right or so,
because in TV you only get paid for episodes produced,

(10:54):
and so they just you know, it just let's explain
to people who don't know the show was was picked
up for the first thirteen episodes, and they kind of
see how you do in the ratings, and then if
you do well enough in the ratings, you get the
rest of the order, which which is in in in
in business talk is called the back nine, meaning you
get the get nine more episodes. And we have been

(11:15):
given that news about a month earlier, and we ran
around the hospital like we've won the Stanley Cuppers, I remember.
And my only point in this is that between getting
picked up and now about fifteen or sixteen episodes into it,
and I can see it in this episode as well
discuss but the ensemble is water tight, whether it meant

(11:35):
going on a trip together or getting picked up, people
are starting to vibe off each other. And it's as
clear as day when I was watching it. It's just
what Donald and Sarah are doing as you guys know.
I think the camera is an X ray machine and
it sees through all the bullshit and what they're doing together,
there's zero bullshit. And what Zak is doing at the

(11:55):
end with Sarah in that in that on that cot,
there's no bullshit. It's it's just tight and right. And
I just got a chill. It just it really got me.
You gave me a chill too, because I gotta tell
I didn't remember in that scene with Sarah what happened.
I didn't know if it was going to turn romantic.
I didn't know if I cried. I couldn't remember. And

(12:16):
I was actually moved by the two of us because
nothing happens like I agree, I agree like like you,
like would happen in real life. You know, in the movies,
we'd kiss. In the movies, I break down and cry,
but in real life two friends might just sit there
in silence for a minute. And I just thought that
was beautifully done. I think it's the real privilege of
friendship when nothing does happen so that I don't have

(12:40):
to demonstrate to you anything and you don't have to
demonstrate anything to me, And real friendship is when stuff
is allowed, and it's a tricky verb to settle, and
you guys let it settle in front of the lens
and as well discussed Will mackenzie. He just let the
scene play and the two actors. It's really lovely and
on a prime time comedy, it's spectacular. It's spectacular. Now

(13:04):
we've been greased by the presence of many stars one
scot Folly, Heather Graham has been on the show. No
shortage of a list celebrities. But there's something extra special
when Terror Reid showed up, and that's because she went
to high school with Donald. So we got to hear
about Donald's first encounter with Moonshine, a shootout at his

(13:25):
first apartment in l a and what happens when you
fall asleep on the set of Clueless. Here's Terry Read
telling us all of Donald's juicy gossip. I believe that,
I believe. Yeah, I remember three things in my life
that are very important in my life and you're part
of two of them. Right before you go into this,
because this is gonna be juicy, that's a tease for

(13:46):
the audience. We're gonna say a quick break and we'll
be right back with the terror read two things in
my life, two things in my life that are really
big moments in my life and important moments in my life,

(14:06):
and Tara is a part of it. My first time
ever falling asleep on set was on the Clueless set, right,
fell asleep and we were doing the party scene, show
the movie the movie, And to fall asleep on a
set you gotta be really brave. But maybe I wasn't
in Clueless. I know you weren't in Clueless, but you
showed up at the party scene. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,

(14:29):
remember up. So I'm sleeping on a freaking like a
chair and we're shooting the movie and somebody said should
wake up? And I opened my eyes and Tara standing
in front of me, standing over me, and I'm like,
what the funk are you doing here? And I was like,
holy shit, right and and it was a big moment

(14:50):
for me because it takes it. You gotta have trust
to fall asleep on a set, first of all, because
people will fun with you one too. It was a
big moment because it was it was my big break
and it was a huge movie and I knew at
this point, I didn't know it was gonna be huge,
But I knew that I was in Los Angeles and
I made it, and my one friend that had made
it in Los Angeles is waking me up on set,

(15:12):
and I was like, holy ship, this is serendipitous. This
is this has to be this is this has to
be uh, this has to be fat. And she's going
to give me some of that big Lebowski juice, some
of that juice, some of that, some of that, some
of that, some of that. Can I tell him? Can
I tell him the story about being in your apartment
when with the gun shooting? Oh God, So I go

(15:37):
over to me, like Donald, let me go to his house.
And it's just me and Hammer hanging out. It's more
than just me and you. It's me, you and some
of the casts from the Mickey Mouse Club. Like I
don't know how it turned out to be this. We
were hanging out with like Chase Hampton and Damon from
the Mickey Mouse Club and it was like those two
and a couple of other people and were at my

(15:58):
house in Hollywood and I had just moved all famous
actors at the time. I just moved to Los Angeles.
Let her tell the story, don't hijack it, all right,
go ahead, Tara. So we go to his house and
we're hanging out and we're all having fun, and then
all of a sudden and Nora in front of his
house and and Don was like duck. We're all laying

(16:20):
on the ground like like it was the scariest we've
ever seen. And all of a sudden he knew what
to do. He's like duck, lay in the ground. And
then all of a sudden, after the shots, he's crawling
like towards the window to peek through because we didn't
know it was right in front of his building. So
we're peeking through if they're gone or not, you know.
And and we after that we laid on the floor
and all of us laughed so hard because we couldn't

(16:42):
believe what just happened. They were still alive, all right.
She left a couple of parts out tower. So we're
hanging out and somebody goes, yo, this is a really
dangerous neighborhood. I'm like, get the funk out of here.
This is not a dangerous neighborhood. I'm from a dangerous neighborhood.
This isn't a dangerous I'm from Hell's kitchen. I'm from
right up from Hell's kitchen. Everybody get down. So we

(17:05):
get on the ground. And now I'm on the ground
and I'm looking at Tara, and Tara's bawling, crying, and
I'm like, oh god, oh God, oh god, Tarver brought
over to my house. She's probably got shot or some
ship like that. She's gonna die. That everything calms down,
we all get up and we're looking around and I'm like, yeah,
that was the funniest ever. I just said that this

(17:26):
wasn't a scary neighborhood, that this was Hell's kitchen, and
out of nowhere, and then right as I said, out
of nowhere, once again, retaliation comes more. Oh it was crazy,
but we jumped to the ground again, right, And now
I'm laughing. I'm laughing so hard, right, I'm stoned out
of my mind and I'm freaking laughing at gunshots outside

(17:48):
my window. Dude, Uh yeah, laughing so hard that this
the story doesn't have uh climactic ending other than the
fact that we survived. The climactic ending is that you
survived to drive by and you didn't get tar red killed,
and I didn't. I got it to get tied wasn't
there a story you told me once Donald where you

(18:08):
you went over Terra's house and had the moonshine for
the first time. Yes. Story. So we were in high
school and it was Tara's Tara was sixteen. It was
her sweet six team, and I guess I was a senior,
and She's like, Yo, come to my house in Jersey.
I'm throwing a party and all my friends from Jersey
gonna be there. And like I said, Tara and I

(18:30):
were close in high school, so there was like me,
her and then well it was Jamal it was It
wasn't Terence Howard. It was Jamal. Yeah, my buddy Jamal
and one other person. We go over to Terra's house
and so we get there and Tara was like, dude,
you're not gonna believe this, but I got a keg
and I was like, you gotta fucking keg. She was like,

(18:51):
I gotta alright. Feels like it's just like the classic
Jersey I grew up in Jersey too, obviously. It's like
it's like membering teen Wolf when he that goes through
all the trouble to get the keg and then yeah,
and then he puts in the room and there's all
those kegs. Yeah anyway, yeah, I get there. I get
there and I'm like, holy ship, she got a keg. Right.

(19:12):
She taps the keg and we're all drinking it. Right,
We're all drinking, and she goes, yo, you want to
try something different, and I was like, in my mind,
I'm like, oh God, this is where it all goes
bad to go. I want to try to drink something different.
I was like, yeah, sure. She goes coming me. She
takes me in the kitchen and then the kitchen there's
this big vat and she's like, it's moonshine. What She's like,

(19:33):
it's moonshine My dad made this. And I was like,
get the funk out of here. She was like yeah,
And so I look at him. It's like clear with
like celery. It looked like floating. I was like, okay,
I'll try it. And I try it and I sip
and I'm telling you, I'm tell you something right now.
After I sipped, I don't remember much of what happened

(19:54):
to the rest of the time. I remember Taras showing us.
I remember you doing your a school cheerleading stuff in
front of all of us to show us that I
remember that. I remember falling asleep on the floor, uh,
and waking up the next morning and taking the bus
or trying one of those things back to Manhattan. But
it was my first time and and my only time

(20:16):
ever trying first. It got me. It got All I
know is I don't remember much. I just remember falling
asleep on the floor. It's like those things. It's like
when you watch movies and it's like, you know, it
shows you moments in a person's life as they're watching
it flash before their eyes and it blacks out, and
then it comes back and it's something different, and then

(20:36):
it blacks out and then it comes back and it's
something different. I have two memories. One of them is
Tarry doing going like rah rah, and then the other
and then the other one is passing out on the floor,
looking over and seeing everybody on the floor knocked out
and then just passing out. Yeah. This is called a
young teenage boy tries moonshine for the first time. Great

(21:00):
it was. It was one of my most memorable moments.
Tara Reid has a few of them. One more time
for the Fact List, Terry read, sometimes when we don't
have guests the guys, as you know as a loyal listener,
I have just moments that are beyond the pale, moments

(21:21):
that really illuminate who they are as individuals, what makes
their friendship click, what makes them shine as individuals. And
we got a great request to see we listen to
Donald and Zach talking about their encounters with Mariah Carey.
To be honest, I totally forgot about this story. I'm

(21:43):
so glad someone suggested it. I just listen, just listen,
It's great. Yeah, what what song would you put on
to cry? If I if I had to put on
a song? Oh? Man, you want to know what song?
It is the score from Bamby. It's about your people
to the Prince of Egypt. Whitney Houston and Mariah carry

(22:03):
There can be miracles if you believe the hope is
from It's hard to kill. Come on now, who knows
what miracles you when you believe somehow you will Joe, Well,

(22:25):
you're about to cry right now. I think this is
full talent show. It's the most beautiful song maybe I've heard. Yeah, listen, man,
it's about first of all the songs about when Pharaoh's
chasing the Jewish people out of Egypt. It's about that
is it's about the story of Moses. It goes all
the way through, it goes all the way through. It's

(22:50):
him going all the way through to him coming down
from the mountain with the tin commandments. Uh in in
the ark. Oh no, he has him in his hands.
I think at this at the commandment remember from the
what was it? The is it? The history of Earth?
These commandments? But the song is amazing, man, And you

(23:20):
know it's you know, so that's when you would put
on that's that song. It's if you ever need to cry,
whether it be, it's just such a hopeful song, you
know what I mean. We've spent this whole, this whole
I know we're jumping off topic and everything like that.
We've spent this whole time. You know. Amanda clutes Is,
you know, has delivered a lot of hope to people

(23:43):
in this world, you know what I mean. Her faith
and her belief really helped a lot of people when
Nick was sick. And you know, for some reason, when
when you have all of that faith and you have
all of that love, it overwhelms you. Man. And so
listening to a song like that, listening to there can

(24:05):
be me every cos when you believe, it just overflow.
You just overflow with hope and joy and and it
just works, you know what I mean. That's beautiful And
now I got listen to it. I've never seen the movie.
I've never heard the song. I'm sorry, did you get
the opportunity to check it out? There's a lot of
really good voiceover performances it was, but that song. First

(24:30):
of all, it was Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston singing it.
And I don't know if you were big Mariah Carry
or Whitney Houston fans. I'm first of all, I think
those are you know, of my lifetime two of the uh,
the true versions of what a diva is as far
as being able to sing. Had a Mariah Carey interaction once,
so did I was one of the best nights of

(24:51):
my life. What was yours? Well, mine wasn't like we've
made out or anything. Your sound Now we didn't make
a no no, no, no, no no no imagine yet
it was totally awesome. No, we didn't make I met
her and Derek Jeter in the same night. Wow, I
was peeing on a Mariah carry music video called up
on the roof. But you can go watch on YouTube

(25:13):
and uh, and you mean rooftop? No, it's called Oh
was it is the song up on the rooftop? I
thought it was up on the roof. I think it
might be. Joel. Can you double check with her? What's
the one with her and Mob Deep? Well, she doesn't
have two songs, one called up on the roof and
on the roof top. It's either one I think it's roof,
one called the roof, yeah, with mob Deep right, No,

(25:36):
this is called up on the mob Deep beat. I'm
telling you it's the Mob Deep beat. Told you now, Joel,
does she have one called up on the roof? I
will read that too, because I remember that I had
to lug all this stuff up to the roof. It's
just the roof, all right. Well listen, I elevator broke

(26:00):
in this building in Brooklyn and all the p a
s had to lug all the gear up to the roof,
and I was like to help her up. Her next
song is called lobby Anyway, I got you you being
a good dad? Could you have some really good dad jokes?
That I am going to be a great dad, but

(26:25):
not because of my jokes. Just because I'm hilarious. Listen.
Before the elevator broke, I got in with Mariah and
her whole posse and I was just the p A
and I had a baseball hat and I looked away, like,
you know, I thought you were finding I was fresh
out of Yeah. I just thought you don't look at
the star. I just look away. And she was like,
I like your baseball hat. It was my favorite baseball hat.

(26:46):
And I was like, oh, thank you, thank you, like
not making eye contact, like bobbing my head, and she
was like, I might want to wear that in the video.
And I was like, oh okay, and she's like to
kind of borrow it, and I was like, oh yeah,
so her like ento, she took my baseball hat and
it had like a red circle on it, and they
came back to me and they were like, hey, we

(27:06):
want to darken the red circle with sharpie. Is that okay?
And I was like, oh, it's kind of my favorite hat.
But I don't want to let down Mariah, let down
the whole team. You know. I just lugged everything up
to the roof. I want the video to be good,
you know, this is what I was thinking. And they're like,
we'll give you forty dollars if you'll let us darken
the red circle with sharpie. And I was like, I

(27:26):
didn't have any money. I was probably making a hundred
bucks to be the p A. I was like, gonna,
you know, increase my salary substantially. So I was like, yeah,
for forty bucks, y'all can just go to nuts on
it with a sharpie and I'll just have a great story.
So that's what happened. And I don't even I watched
the video in twenty years, but she's on the roof.
I know she's on the roof at any and if

(27:48):
at any point, I gotta see if at any point, anyone, anyone,
anyone who's curious, just go watch the video and see
if she's ever wearing a black baseball cap, because that's mine.
I got forty bucks extra. That was a hard shoot, Okay,
So by far, this was our most requested story. It

(28:09):
is the Jeff Sucker noggie story from the upfronts right
after they shot the pilot, where they go back and
remember the time that Tonald gave a nuggie to the
president of the production company. Uh, not a great look.
Not a great look. But a funny story that to

(28:30):
this day, to this day, it's quoted in this lovely
friendship that we all get to be a part of
because of Fake Doctor's real friends. But what I discovered
upon re listening is there's also like these really beautiful gems.
For example, I really like when Zex starts talking about
going back to the hotel room to rewatch the pilot,

(28:51):
which is of course such a nerdy thing to do,
but it's so sweet and innocent. It's just look at
this thing we made, and look, it's here, and it's ours,
and people are excited to watch it. And I think
if you're an artist, in a person who creates anything
that they're going to share, whether that's you know, a
beautiful cake, you're a fun T shirt or you know whatever,

(29:11):
that's the best part is like getting to give it
to other people and seeing their reactions. Um, and of
course celebrating with people who made it with you. So
please enjoy this early story of early fame from Zack
and Donald. Donald. You pointed out something very wise, and
that is that you know, when you do a pilot,

(29:31):
you shoot the pilot and then you have no idea
if the show is gonna get picked up, And there's
often a lot of time between when you shot the
pilot and then let's say the network says, Okay, we're
gonna make it a series, and then you go and
you you go to a thing called the upfronts, which
is when your show is selected. You go to a
huge party in New York City where they announced where

(29:52):
the network is going to announce all of the new shows.
And this is a very thrilling thing for a young actor,
absolutely and all. So when Scrubs got picked up, it
was considered one of the better pilots of that time.
And so when we went to Upfront, I remember all
of the heat that we had behind us at Upfront,

(30:13):
Like even the party for all of the upfront shows
was kind of themed towards us, you know what I mean.
And you know, you get there and you and you
and you meet a bunch of executives for the first time,
and you don't really know who they are, because nobody
really knows executives until you're on the network and somebody

(30:33):
tells you, Okay, that's my boss and that's his boss,
and that reminds me of a wonderful story about you
because we were we were so first we go to
the party and it's this amazing party and it's you know,
we were just wide out. We couldn't believe we were here.
I mean, I was waiting tables a few months ago
and and uh, here we are in New York at
this giant party and you have to you take pictures

(30:56):
with a lot of people, and you know, you're getting
treated like a celebrity and you're not only even knows
who you are really yet, at least especially in my case.
And um, and then then we go to this party
and there were celebrities at the party. I remember Kevin Nelon,
who I was a huge fan of from SNL as
an example. He was I think literally might have been
one of the first celebrities I ever met, was Kevin

(31:17):
Neilan at this party, and I remember thinking like, oh
my god, we're hanging out with with celebrities, Like we've
made it. Yeah, you know. Sean Hayes was another person
who was a big champion, like he loved the show,
and it was really awesome to have the dude from
Will and Grace, who at this point was really famous
on television. That show was snug And do you remember

(31:37):
any other stars that were at that party. I remember.
I just remember because I was such an SNL fan
as a kid that I was so geeked out that
that Kevin Nealon was there. I think there may have
been some other older SNL faces, but it was it
was all the a. It was like a NBC rich
at any anyone who was on NBC at that time
was at at the party. Now we proceeded, understandably to

(32:00):
get quite intoxicated at this party. I remember Bill Lawrence saying, like,
all right, guys, just so you know, like don't like,
you know, there's be a lot of executives at this party,
Like I understand your New York your life's just changed,
but like, don't get ship faced to all of us,
all of us, all of us. Sarah Chuck's famous line,

(32:20):
I mean, you guys ever heard of a Cosmopolitan? Yeah, Sara,
Sarah stumbled up to a sideways and she's like, have
you guys ever heard of a Cosmopolitan? They're great? And
then I remember cut for some reason at this bar.
Wasn't there like a trappiece like a trapeze, but not
a trapeze? What do you call that thing where you

(32:40):
swing on a trapeezels, way too dangerous to bid a
real trapeeze, but was there. It was something like that.
It was a bar in the middle. It was like
a bar. I think he was on in the middle
of the bar. It was in the meat Paggy Street.
I think it was called Park or something anyway, and
she was on. I remember her being on the bar
and flipping over and just showing everybody, you know, what

(33:02):
she had on underneath that dress she wore that day
because she was and I remember her husband at the
time being like, that's it, We're going home, to go home,
let's go. My favorite part of the night is Donald
was giving everyone noogies and well, all right, let's let's go.
Let me tell the story and then you can clarify.
Let me tell the Let's start from the beginning, though,
Let's start from the very beginning. Okay. So Scott Sassa

(33:26):
was the dude that I thought was in charge of
all of NBC at the time. I think he was
higher up than than Jeff Zucker, who we're going to
talk about. Jeff Zucker was the I believe, the president
of NBC who is now actually now the president of CNN,
but at the time he was the president of NBC.
He had just come from whatever the Today Show at

(33:48):
the time, and then he gone on to be the
head of NBC. And I didn't know this, so Donald
didn't know who he was. You're gonna ruin my story.
Donald didn't know who he was. I thought he was
Scott Sasson's that says it. And Donald was going around
giving everyone noggies. And I look over and Donald has
Jeff Zucker, the president of the network, in a full headlock,

(34:09):
and he's giving him a drunken noggie on his bald head.
And I hear Jeff Zucker, go, please Donald, No, that's okay.
Entire friendship. Whenever Donald like tells me a cringe e
story that makes me want to run away, I just

(34:29):
tell him about please Donald, no, Jeff Zucker. You know,
at this point, I'm giving everybody love because I'm so
excited that we're on the network. It's going down, and
I look over and I see Jeff Zucker in my mind,
Scott Sass's assistant standing over by the bar, uh, you know,
by himself, or he might even have been with somebody,

(34:50):
and I'm like, hey, you come over here. I got
nuggies to give out, and he's like, he's like no, no, no, no, no, no,
no no no. And I point at him again and
I'm like and I get a little bit more, you know,
grow about it, and I'm like, no, you get over
here right now. And he's like no, no, no, no
no no. And so I marched over to him, drunk
as Kim. I've seen you march when Donald marches his

(35:12):
arms swing and I walk up to him and I
grabbed him and I put him in the headlock, and
I'm like, don't you ever tell me no? And I'm
grabbing him and I'm giving Jeff Zucker a nuggie. And
I remember Bill Lawrence like a few days later being like, dude, Donald,
I just have to ask you if this actually happened,

(35:32):
but did you give Jeff Zucker a noogie? I was like,
I gave so many people nuggies. I gave so many
I can't recall who who was. And he was like, well,
apparently you gave the head of NBC a noogie. And
he's not really happy about it. But he wasn't genuinely
piste off, was he. No. I don't think he was

(35:53):
genuinely piste off, but he stayed away from me here.
I remember remember he did come to visit the set
of the hospital and and he kind of stayed away
from you because he was, um, yeah, that's very funny.
Well what else do you so? So then I remember
that night ended where we were in I wasn't there.
You were, this was you and Neelon, I wasn't there.
Almost almost everybody ended up back in Bill and Christa's

(36:18):
hotel room, and we it's kind of it's sweet slash embarrassing.
We were so geeked out. We were like, let's watch
our pilot. So we were like it was like a
whole bunch of people and Kevin Kneelin, who I was
a super fan of, and we just were watching the
show and I don't know, it's a sweet moment. I
remember being like just thinking like I can't believe this
is happening. But then the funny thing is you have

(36:38):
a long time before you start shooting. So we made
the show. It got picked up. My mom freaked out
that I was like that I quit my waiting tables job.
She was like, but what so long we are you
gonna do? And I was like, I, Mom, I I
I can live off this pilot money for a long
I was living so frugally with no money that I
was like, I can live off this pilot money for
a long time, so I'm gonna write. And in that

(37:00):
time is when I really finally sat down and put
Garden State together and at my dining room table and
kind of look was like, this is a sign I
need to I have this time that the universe gave
me and I don't need to wait tables, and I'm
gonna sit down and like put this script together. That's awesome.
So this last story is one I just wanted to
put in there for myself. Getting to meet Sarah Chalk

(37:22):
on the show has been an incredible experience. She's everything
you hope she might be. She's kind and truly so
so funny, um and generous, a very generous soul. And
you only need to know her for about five minutes
before you can see that. And there's something really great
about this trio of Donald, Zach and Sarah. Their energy,

(37:44):
the way they lately poked fun of each other, the
way they pump each other up to though, like there's
not a lot of tearing down in this friend group,
and every time we have them together. I just sort
of want to bask in the glow of their delicious conversation.
They are. They're kind of, I think, the friends everybody
wants to be and or have, And so I wanted
to stick this on the end because, man, listening to

(38:07):
these guys talk about their early struggles but also their
early accomplishments, but also how they stayed grounded, it's a
really fun journey. So here's they're talking a little bit
about the dressing room situation at Scrubs and Sacred Heart.
So I hope you guys enjoy it. We miss you.

(38:28):
We were taught. We've been talking about how we never
see you and we miss your face. I miss you
guys too. We got the band back together on zoom. No,
look at this, the band's back together. Band is back together.
We can't do our handshake virtually Donald and make zact jealous.
He doesn't like jealous. I never whenever people do those

(38:49):
like epically long handshakes, I I frowned, but only because
I I've never been involved with one and I couldn't
possibly remember it, So maybe I'm just jealous. I have
a very long one with Sarah Chalk, and I have
a very long one with Breck and Meyer. Those are
the only two handshakes that I have in my life
where I'm like, Jesus is a longass hand shake. Could
you and Sarah get right back into it without fault

(39:10):
right now? You think, get a girl running, man, you
get it. So we were talking to the last episode
about your your epic. We were talking about your your epic.
Um I told you so dance and how long it was?

(39:30):
Oh my god, that's so funny. People send me that
at different moments in my life over social media. That
was one of those fun times on scrubs. Like, what
a unique job when you get to do this where
Bill was just like the line in the script that
I told you so, and he said instead of saying that,
just make up like a song and a dance. And
I told you so a song and dance. And so

(39:50):
you know, it's not frequently you have to do that
on the job. So it's fun. Well, do you remember
getting down into the splits, Yeah, it's hard to get
out of him. Remember getting down into it and being like,
and I'm stuff. I was gonna say that. There's some
video I think on one of the Gabriels where people
can watch on usually if you're if you're interested, we're

(40:11):
Sarry just kept going and going and going with her.
I Told you So dance and they only could put
a short piece of it in the show, but it
like it went on for like a full minute. I think,
oh yeah, they didn't cut so I just kept going
and then um brought in some French and German like
I told you So in German, which is yah to
kept Kazakh because obviously, after being tortured going to German

(40:33):
school twice a week for my entire upbringing, anytime I can,
you know, feel that it's actually it's only been useful
in scrubs. That's the only time I've ever used my German.
Really would go to international upfronts and stuff like that.
It was always when you do press, you must be
very popular with the French and German press, I would think.
Because Sarah is fully trilingual, not anymore. I was as

(40:57):
a kid. French. I still I I can speak, but
after my grandmother died, we don't really speak German anymore.
So I've lost so much of it. But I but
French I still has because that was, you know, all day,
everyday school was in French, like math, science, pe everything.
I'm so jealous of people. I wish multiple language. I
wish I could speak multiple languages. Men like I tried

(41:19):
to get the Rosetta stone and failed at it, you
know what I mean? But I failed at it. No,
you didn't fail at it. You just didn't commit donald.
That's that that that you know what, that's a better
way to look at it. That's a that's a that's
a better way to look at it. But you know,
I probably could have been grade at basketball if I
dedicated a lot of time to it. I mean, I'm
not saying I would have been like had natural super skills,

(41:42):
but I always think of it like like, you know,
it's what you dedicate time and focus and energy to.
You know what, You're absolutely right, because I know a
lot of people who didn't play sports growing up and
put a lot of energy into sports when they got older,
meaning like tennis or go all for something like that,
and now they are very good at those sports, right

(42:05):
I imagine. I just I just want to clarify for yourself,
for your own psyche, that you could probably be You
could easily become bilingual if you cared enough to if
you dedicated the hours you dedicate to animation. To learn
a language, I probably, I probably would be fluent. What
language would you choose? What language? I could choose a
language that's interesting. I would choose Spanish because, um, here

(42:28):
we are living in California, and it feels like makes
the most sense to be able to speak with so
many Spanish speakers that are here. Yeah, Spanish is a
good one. Uh wow, as probably a good one. Now
French is a good one. But if I could, I
would want to choose something that's like out of the ordinary. Hebrew,

(42:52):
I would I would love to learn. That would be great. Actually,
oh my god, you speaking Hebrew in Israel would be
one of the one of the most amazing things. Can
you just do it? Please, We'll do it together. We'll
do it together. That would be great. I mean, well, Sarah,
we were talking about just sports stuff like that, learning
sports and stuff. I thought you wanted to say something.

(43:13):
Go ahead, Oh no, I just want to say two things. Um.
One that yes, Donald, pick a language and absolutely master it.
In terms of languages, I kind of cheated because I
was a kid, and I feel as a kid, it's
like it's just insert. It's like a gift into your brain.
It's so easy, and as an adult and so much harder.
But but sports, I'm I'm living proof that what Zach
just said is not true about you could play basketball

(43:36):
and become really good. I devoted so much time in
my youth to basketball. It's all I wanted, and I
wanted it's so bad. And I tried out for the
basketball team in grade five, grade six, grade seven, I
was at our neighbor's hoop in the pouring rain in Canada,
practicing every day. And then try outs for grade seven
basketball came and I was like, this is my year.
The basketball came from across the court, hit me square

(43:58):
in the face and started a serious of like crazy
nose plays but lasted for months until I got my
nose cautter eyes. But anyways, um, I kept trying out
for the team, and I kept practicing, and I take
like camps and I would I would try so hard.
And finally, in grade ten, and I was still the
shortest kid in the class, I grew and I was
like really like eighteen or something, so I uh, I

(44:18):
finally made the team. And Blake, who you both met,
who's my brother in law, was two years older and
was my coach and makes fun of me till this day.
And I made the team, but I spent the whole
time on the bench. But I was like, I didn't
care because I had a jersey and I was on
the team, and I was getting on the bus with
all of my buddies to go to the game, and
that's all I wanted. And we had a really good team.

(44:39):
And they would put me on the center forward as
like a joke when we were beating the other team,
like seventy to four, and I'd be like jumping, trying,
like and it was all effort, no skill, so trying
so hard and just yeah, well, you know what, you
made the team. So all of that practice paid off

(44:59):
and you got to run up and down a couple
of for a couple of minutes during every game that year.
I'm sure I don't think a lot of people say,
and I'm including myself on this, like oh I suck
at that, Oh I suck at that. Oh I can't cook,
Oh I can't drive a motorcycle. Oh I can't play basketball,
And it's like, no, well, maybe you're not amazing at it,
but you never dedicated any fucking time to trying. Right, Well,

(45:21):
there is that, there is there is that. There is that.
Like I say all the time, I can't write. And
I'm gonna be honest with you. I can imagine so much,
and I can and I can and I can come
up with so many stories. You know what I've never done, No,
you know what, I've never practiced trying to write it
into trying to write it down. I've always worked well,

(45:45):
I've got this idea and somebody's like, oh, you should
write it down, and I'm like, oh, no, I'm not
a writer. How would I ever know if I don't
sit down and I put the pen to pad. Of course,
just to just imagine something you love, like in your case,
would be animation or basketball, or of imagine all those
hours you had been in a writing class, right, you
know you'd probably be a amazing writer, right or or

(46:08):
or or practicing, not just sitting in a class. It's
like you said, I would learn how to write. That
doesn't necessarily mean I'd be a great writer. I might
not be great at it, but I would be able
to understand structure and I would understand you know, how
to tell us. You would still get way better. You
would get way better even if no matter where you're
starting it, will you become of the greatest writers of

(46:30):
all time. No, but if you but you'd be, you'd
I guarantee you, with practice you'd be you'd be pretty
darn good. I feel like, you know, you get you
get put in a box as a kid of the
things you can and can't do so early. And you know,
for me, that was singing. I was in grade five
and Mrs McKinnon was like, chalk girls, just mouth the
words for this performance to my sister and I when

(46:51):
we were singing Christmas carols in a mall for like
some school, not a fancy choir, like a school choir.
And I feel like it was like that moment where
I love nothing more than musical theater and was doing
musical theater after school, and it just completely shut me
down and put me in this box of like, oh,
that's something that I can't do, so I stopped working
at it and learning and trying. And who knows where

(47:14):
you would have gotten if you would have kept going,
You could have been at epine. Well you think it's
you think. I remember a kid I went to school
with could not really sing that well. He could barely
hold a tune, you know what I mean. But he
could play the piano really really well right when he graduated.

(47:34):
He's gone on now to write songs. He performs all
the time. He's an amazing artist, you know what I mean.
But I remember when he couldn't sing. He could sing
his ass off, now, you know what I mean. My
little brother, Allow me day when he was in a
band called Imagine. When he auditioned for the band Imagine,

(47:55):
he uh, he sang show tunes because that's all he knew.
I think it's all edition was something like, you know,
the song of Peter I Won't Grow Up Mad. No.
I think that was his audition for the band, and
they were like, well, the kid can the kid can
hold a tune. Let's see if we can work with him. Now,
my little brother, he has music that he works on

(48:18):
all the time and he tries to get it out
and he's you know, he's doing his thing as a musician,
and he's a very good singer and he sings, if
you ask me, he sings better than a lot of
his motherfucker's out right now. But that's just how do
we how do we hear his music? Yeah, we'll we'll
shout him out at your old hommy day. Why oh

(48:40):
oh l A M I d E. I think that's it, I,
you know, to be honest with you, I wasn't expecting
to shout him out like that, but I think that's
his handle on Instagram. Uh, we'll fix it if it's not. Anyway,
he worked really hard to get where he was, so
I understand. I understand the premise. That doesn't necessarily mean

(49:00):
you're gonna be the greatest. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
An epiphany I had in my own life, you know,
in my in my twenties, was you know, stop saying
you suck at X, Y and Z and not. It's
not that you don't, but it's because you haven't dedicated
any interest. And it comes at any time, and it
becomes it comes with interest. So the things that we're
all interested in in our own lives, our own hobbies

(49:22):
and things outside of being an actor, will dedicate countless
hours too. For me, one of my hobbies is photography.
I will be online looking at cameras and playing with
new cameras, you know, for endless hours. Now I could
be dedicating at time to something else and get quite
good at that thing. So it's just foolish just say like,
oh I suck at that. You might, but it's it's

(49:44):
not because you you you it's in your bones. It's
because you didn't dedicate any commitment to time. That's all
I'm right, age and and and that also goes for
learning lines also, yes, just putt yeah. Donald always used
to say, and always does say, oh I can't to
learn lines. That's bullshit. You were sucking high watching basketball.
That was That was honest. That's the honest to goodness truth.

(50:06):
And when I stopped doing all of that, I found
that learning lines was actually very easy to do. When
you just look, if you can't learn it in two hours,
there's something wrong, you know what I mean? You should
really think about finding other exercises to do when it
comes to line learning. That is, it's just a matter
of practice for me. I miss you guys too, and

(50:29):
you guys have been keeping me entertained and happy. Are
you really listening because we had to prove that. I
don't know if you heard the episode with Randall, but
he tried to act like he was listening and then
he said three to one and he got out in three. No,
I've been listening. I've I haven't heard all of them.
I've heard a bunch of them, and it's making me
so happy. And I can't believe how much you guys remember.
And it's so fun to just, especially in a time

(50:51):
like this, like go back into that go back into
that headspace. And we had I just we had so
much fun. We had so many fucking laughs and I, um, yeah,
all of it. Like Donald singing Stafford and Son. The
other day, Um, you know what it is, Well, you
know what it is. I was hanging out with Paul
Rudd and Alicia Silverstone and Breck and Meyer doing a

(51:13):
Clueless reunion like a year and a half ago or
something like that, right, And Paul said something that was
very very interesting. He was like, we have history together,
you know what I mean. So because we have history together,
it's so easy to fall back into where we were

(51:33):
when we were working on scrubs, right he was he
was saying clueless. He was like, we had such a
great time and it was such a big opportunity for
all of us, and it turned into something so big
that when we see each other you can't help but
reminiscent feel all of those great feelings that you had
when ship jumped off, right. I think also, you know,

(51:56):
when we did the show, we didn't have all these
years of knowing just how special it really was. I mean,
we've all done plenty of jobs since and continue to
work and will till till our dying day. But I
think when I watched these episodes back and I talk
to you guys, and it's great seeing everyone now we're

(52:16):
doing the show. We see you, sorry, we saw Johnny.
See we see people that we don't see all the time.
It's it's even bring back more nostalgia for me because
I'm going, Wow, what a what a unique time this
was to not only do something for so long, but
to create this wonderful bond with these with these people,
and um, it's you know a lot of jobs as
an actor that you do. They're fun and everyone's cool

(52:36):
and and it works or it doesn't, but it isn't
such a special thing where where you have these lifelong
bonds with people. It's so true, is it was? It was?
It was our twenties right like it was our twenties.
It was such a formative time, I think too, in
our lives and then for it to be on such
a special show and yeah, like you guys are saying, like,
you know, we realize being adults, like how fucking rare

(52:57):
that is and to have you know, I mean, we
would we would spend it was like you guys were
talking about with Randall. It's like we would spend sixteen
twenty hours shooting. We would go over time that people
don't never do anymore, and then we would go with
the whole crew to the Money Tree, you know on
a Friday night. We would have wine and cheese Fridays.
I mean we've literally just spent like over hundred hours together.

(53:21):
And then you know, and then are still hanging out
or would hang out on the weekends, and I mean
really all lunch together. I mean, I don't know if
you guys now nowadays on sets people are like later,
but we used to every single day for nine for
eight years, Um, have lunch together. Yeah, it's so, it's

(53:42):
so um, it's so rare. I was working on a
job like a year ago, and I just I was
new there and I just grabbed my train, went down
and sat with the crew and a couple of guys
that I'd worked with years and years ago, and somebody
said like, oh, actually, you just go to the trail.
And I was like, oh, that's not how That's not
how I grew up. That's not what I enjoyed. I
um and uh it was. Yeah. I don't know if

(54:03):
you guys remember, but Carrie Bennett are amazing costume designer
who hanous scrubs. I definitely remember Carrie Bennett. I think,
oh my god, she was so great. So she she
she she'd say to me, you know, after lunch, she
was like, Sarah, um, I don't say this, but we're
running out of scrubs, in of your scrubs, and and

(54:24):
we we we we just need to We're gonna give
you this art smock as a as a Giant did
and you've got to wear it to the lunch tin.
And I was like, you're kidding me, right, Carrie, And
she's like, no, no, just like wear it and then
it will protect the scrubs, these beautiful baby blue scrubs
from the chili stain. And uh so I did, and
it was kind of humiliating, and I was super proud.

(54:44):
I came back from lunch and I'm like, Carrie, and
then I had taken a quick disco nap in my
dressing room and I fell asleep on a sharpie And
so these baby blue scrubs that were like pristine on
the front had like a sharpie stain the size of
a grape fruit on the butt. Sarah, is it okay
to tell everyone, um that you're not necessarily the tidiest person?

(55:10):
Oh my god, I forgot about that. Your dressing room.
Oh how did you find anything? And never? You've never
seen anything like it? People, Oh, come along, Well, I
don't know, do you guys? Remember I moved dressing rooms
because I was between your two dressing rooms at the
right end of the hallway. And then in whatever season

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that Heather Graham came on, she was coming for eight episodes,
and they made her a really nice dressing room. They
brought in like new carpeting and they painted. They brought
in this cute little couch and it was smaller than
it was so pretty, And so when she left they
let me have it. So I ended up switching over
the Heather's dressing up. They fixed up a dressing room
because he Their Graham was coming, and then when she left,

(55:54):
you were like, can I have it? And they were
like sure, like, it's so funked up. After all this time,
you didn't get that dressing room, but that you moved
across the hall. That's right, you moved to the other side.
Oh but okay, yes I did. And And as more
proof that I've been listening to your podcast, Johnny C.
I was laughing so hard. He was like, it was like,
remember how we each got fifteen hundred dollars from Disney

(56:16):
every year to improve our dressing rooms. I was like,
hell no, I remember just going there. Remember I remember
going into Donald didn't have much to core and he
would just like like whatever, whatever the latest video game
system and the controllers everywhere, and then and then Sarah
looked like exploded. There was just like shit everywhere. Kind

(56:42):
of was a teenager. I mean when I look fact
of those episodes, we were babies, like yeah, but you
were you weren't a teenager kid. And then your your
dressing room looked like fucking you would walk in and
it would smell good, you had freaking art on the
wall and ship like that. I was there. I was
there my whole life. I thought it had to be
a little bit nice. But I want everyone to realize

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these are still hospital rooms. Okay, these are small hospital
rooms that basically just had some I keya furniture and
a fresh coat of paint, but still have changed your
ship up a little bit more than just I keya furniture.
Like they were like, Zach, here's your room, and you
were like, no, we gotta fix it. Hold on now,
hold hold on. Where did you get this? Where did
you get this furniture from Kia? No? No, no, no,

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We're gonna have to get pottery barn. Like you. It
was not as nice as pottery barn. It was. I
think it was all rental ship. So every year they
bring you in like how about this couch and be
like no, And then you go to the differenttal house
and be like how about this one. It was just
like I'm learning so much. I never got the fite

(57:48):
hunter Johnny so had someone. I never had someone say
how about this couch? I was just whatever coach was
in there till I took Heather Glam's right. I mean,
in my defense, I was there the most hours of
the day, so I did. I did like I'm gonna
need to nap, so I'm gonna I do remember saying.
I do remember going up to somebody and being like, listen,
I don't want to be a pain in the ass

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or anything like that. But my couch is made out
of like, uh, it's like Dan Durry or whatever this
ship is, and it's really hard on my face and
it's really hot. Is there a way we could find
something that's a little bit more cooler? Uh? And and
not cooler like uh, like aesthetically cooler, but cooler like

(58:29):
keeps your body cool cooler. I don't want you to
be a pain in the ass, but is there any
way this could happen? And I remember them being like him,
let me talk to somebody about this. We'll see you're talking.
Maybe Zack's like, they would be like, here's a couch.
When you think of this couch? No, okay, what about this?

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You should have been like, you should be like Heather
Graham would like me to have a nicer couch. Okay, guys,
that's the show. So I hope you enjoyed taking this
trip down memory lane. UM, go to my Twitter and
recommend more stories that you enjoy. We've already had great

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suggestions for just categories. Someone wanted to see all of
the first times that people like the question We ask
everybody when they first come on the show, is when
did you first get involved in scrubs? So maybe I'll
do a compilation of that. I've gotten a request for
all of Donald's wraps. I might try to do that.
There's a ton of options in here. I already know

(59:31):
I want to do one of just the youths. You know.
Obviously we're gonna put Zack's bar Mitzvah story and the
time maybe he found that special massager Um. Donald has
great stories from you know, being a kid dancing in
front of the Fame School. So let me know which
stories you guys want to hear, and I'll try to

(59:52):
make a couple of compilations. I know you miss our
two week drops. Of course, Back and Donald are very
very busy working hard to bring you. They're great content
that listen. I've heard some behind the scenes things. I
can't talk about it here, but you guys are gonna
love what's coming down the pipeline, so it's totally worth it.
I'm just gonna have to dig deep and work really
hard to keep trying to entertain you. Re illuminate some

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of the things we have forgotten. Like I said, I
forgot some of these stories existed, so it's been a
fun journey for me. If you guys have suggestions, you
can hit me up on Twitter or Instagram, DM me, whatever,
and I'll try to put something together you guys like.
Until then, please, you know, hang out with us, join
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I really started to bring it to you. And of course,

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as always, thank you so much for listening. Thank you
for just being here and being a light in our lives.
Thank you for everyone show up to the live show.
We have another one in the work, so get ready
for that. I think that's everything. Okay, have a great weekend.
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