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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, Fake Doctors fans, it's your boy DJ Danel. Today
we are bringing you a classic episode as we prepare
to launch Fake Doctors on video. Yes, the video is coming,
it's just taking us a little longer to make sure
that everything looks tip top and ready for all of
you to see our pretty faces. Now you can expect

(00:22):
that video. Get ready, Danel drum roll on August six
That's right, we're calling our shot now. August sixth is
when the video is going to come out. Get ready.
We have a lot of awesome guests. It's going to
be great. We really hope you guys like it. We're
just got to get some stuff together. And here's another

(00:42):
shout out. If they're guests that you want to see
on the show, email us at scrubsiheart at gmail dot com,
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Send us the guests you want to see on the show.
Maybe we already booked them. Maybe. Anyway, enjoy this classic
episode and we will see you with brand new episodes

(01:04):
in audio and video format in a month. See you then, Hi, Hi,
Hi there, Hi.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
How you doing.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
I'm good?

Speaker 4 (01:14):
How are you.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Just trying not to eat? Are you serious, Just walking
around my kitchen, just thinking about all the things I
want to eat, but I'm not going to eat. Why
I'm trying to get skinny, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
But you got to eat to get skinny, though, that's
the thing, that's the hold, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
But I had a smoothie, I had a healthy movie,
and I enjoyed that. And then it was like I
was like, all right, leave the fucking kitchen, don't eat.
Why are you how much? It's all relative. Everyone has
a goal. Donald, it's all relative.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Are you trying to weigh under one hundred pounds? Is
that your goal? No?

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I'd like to just lose. I'd like to lose a
little of my melted candle around my love handles. God
it feeling, yeah, good luck. I used to have a
trainer named Jurgen Bill Lauren still uses him, yes, And
he used to He had all these catchphrases and he'd go, uh,
I go, I'm so hungry, and he'd grab my love

(02:12):
handle and he'd go, tell your body to eat this shit.
That's buddy.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Did you lose weight working out with Jurgen?

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah? I got I got in great shape with Jurgen.
But his point was like tell your body to eat
that fat instead of whatever nonsense you're gonna eat. I
don't know. It's hard, everybody, what's the best.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Shape you've ever been in in your life? What's the
best shape you've ever been in.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
A couple times, I don't know. I mean, you know,
I it's it's it's a lot of work.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
It's so much work.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
I mean obviously the older you get, I'm forty five
years old, it's a lot more work. And I never
was that into fitness. And I'm not trying to be
like ripped, that's just two. That's a job. These people
we all see on Instagram that were like, fuck, look
at that body, Like that's like their job, that's all
they do. I don't want that to be my job.
I just would like to be not like post holiday bod.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
I totally understand what you mean. I've been ripped twice
in my life, like ripped where there was like zero body,
not zero, but like very little body fat on me.
And that was for remember the Titans. I got ripped
for that. That was my first time ever really working
out too, Like I learned how to work out doing
that movie. And then when I did Kick Ass Too,

(03:32):
I got super ripped for that thinking it's I'm gonna
get the chance to show my muscles and stuff, and
I didn't. I had a suit on the whole time.
But you want to talk about being in shape, that's
the best I've ever been in shape in my life.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
I know.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
But it's such a full time job. I just want
to I don't know. I just want to be saying.
But it's hard, man. And what they tell you about
the older you get, the harder it is, like, you know, man,
it's like you could train hard for a month at
forty five and it's like there's like incremental changes.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Well it really does. You were right, It does depend
on what you eat. And when you're younger it doesn't.
You know, you can have a few cheap meals here
and there. But now at forty month, forty six years old, now,
if I want to lose, if I want to get ripped,
I literally have to eat chicken, broccoli, and drink a
shit ton of water, yeah, all day, and.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Lots of other things every day. Finish you finished, don't
eat late, like, don't have any sugar, don't have any booze,
boozes booze. If you're a drinker and you want to
lose weight. I'm telling you the clickest thing, the quickest
difference is just cut out booze, right, because it just
falls off your body. That's that is one thing that
makes a big difference.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
And supplements also, you know, putting the right vitamins in
your body because you're no longer getting the right supplements
because you've taken taken away so much nutrition by dieting.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
I drink this shake that's like everything you're exposed to
have in a given day in one shake. It's like
everything from like probiotics to proteins to all the vitamins.
It's like everything. It's like a fucking your dream, your
body's dream meal in a chocolate shake.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
You know. I drink the kimbucha. Whenever I get I
do drink GT's kimb Butcha. Whenever I get like whenever
I get like a craving and I want something sweet
or I want something that's gonna you know, I drink that.
Or if I want to drink, you know, some booze
or something like that, I will drink GT's kombucha. That

(05:35):
does help.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
We're gonna have him on, right, Joelle. We're gonna have
the founder of gts on because whenever we talk about GT's,
it's kind of hard because we don't fully understand. I mean,
we understand what a probiotic is, and we love the
taste of it. But this guy's a really interesting guy,
self made businessman, and he's gonna tell us all more
about it, because I'd actually like to learn more about

(05:58):
why it a taste so good and be is supposedly
so good for your body's health.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, I want to learn that. I want to learn
how he decided to turn something that a lot of
Americans were doing into a you know, multimillion dollar industry
as well too.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
He must be loaded. We got to ask him how
rich he is. Also, I dare you?

Speaker 3 (06:20):
I dare you? I dare He's a.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Really fun character. I'm sure he'll answer. I want to
ask him what his thoughts are about people mixing booze
in with it, because I do know some people who
mix it with tequila or mix it with vodka. And
he's mister health nuts, so I wonder what his thoughts
are on like, what do you what do you think
when people say they they occasionally mix it in.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
I'm sure he's up for it.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Should we tell people what happened. No, I want to
go ahead. Well this is the premiere of season four. Yes, everybody,
welcome to season four. Hello, Hi everybody. Donald and I
got in an argument on Friday, and we're able to
record this episode.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
No, you were unable to record it was good to go.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yes, Donald was fine to drop it and move on,
and I was pissed and certainly did not feel like
pivoting and doing a comedy podcast. You know, I do
you know when.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
We hung up. When we hung up, Joel was like,
do we still have a show?

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Is this?

Speaker 5 (07:19):
That's not what I said?

Speaker 3 (07:20):
I was like, Joel, I do you think this is
how it ends? You're crazy?

Speaker 2 (07:24):
We don't go out like that.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
Just sounds like a fight.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
You're muted.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Joel has horrible internet at her place.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah. I don't know what this new house is doing
so far, Joel. But I don't like the internet fault.
It's not her fault. It's Spectrum.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
As you Spectrum is a freaking nightmare.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Oh, Dani, stop jumping to the defense my girl.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
I always want to defend her.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
She's a grown ass woman.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
She's by the way, I love that Joel's She's still
going on in a monologue, even though she's muted.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Very where we go, we got there?

Speaker 2 (08:00):
We got kitchen is nice, Joel, it's so big.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
We can actually all cook, the three of us in
there at the same time.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Are you going to get a little sorry to already
weigh in on home decord, but get a little really
middle island thing like a chopping board.

Speaker 6 (08:14):
We're getting.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
You found the perfect one. It's got wine stories.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yes, it's so cute.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
And did you guys buy or you renting? We are
renting smart Smart Smart.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
We are not in a space to purchase yet.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, let's let's well, let's talk about that, because you know,
homes are just you know, we talk about how the
economy is failing and everything like that, but homes seem
to be going up and up and up and up
and up. That hasn't gone down yet.

Speaker 5 (08:44):
But the rent has tanked. That really moved into this
giant space.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yes, we're looking to move and we can't. We can't
find anything that.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
We like, like an eleven bedroom house.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah, we do need a lot of I do have
a lot of kids.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Eit a second. So Donald and I got in an
argument and I was it was fine. It wasn't that
big a deal, but I was pissed off, and whereas
Donald was like, all right, well, let's go just do
a show, and I was like, I'm not in the
mood to like try and be funny right now. And
I do have to say I once took a self

(09:20):
help course and one thing I remembered was they said,
one of the most powerful skills you can develop as
a human being is the ability to drop it and
get over it and move on.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Well, we took the same course.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
That's why I know, but I was unable. But I
was unable to drop it. I tried to use my skills,
but they didn't work. And when I would later after
I had cooled down and was whatever it was, fucking
whatever it was, I was calling myself out by like,
you know, you didn't really nail that thing you got
from the class about being able to drop it, drop

(09:55):
an argument and move on.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
So that's the most I mean, it's it's nothing. Obviously
it's nothing, but that was one of the most important
things I got from that, where it was like, look,
your temper can get to the level of bow, but
if you're able to say that was just the that
was that moment I can drop it. Let's go forward. Now.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Are you able to do that with your wife?

Speaker 3 (10:19):
No? I have a hard time with my way. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
I imagine it's very hard in relationships because but I mean,
that's where the mastery of it really comes in. You know,
if you can have a heated argument like all couples
do and then kind of get to some place of
a completion and then go okay, clean, slate, new chapter.
I mean, that's pretty that's pretty awesome to be able
to do that.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
I can.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
I can do it sometimes, but certainly not all the time.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
I can do it sometimes. That was the first time
in a long time that I was like, I can
do it right now.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
You wanted me to try and be funny, and I
wanted to strangle you anyway by the way I have
the I was laughing to myself, going, we should do
a rewatch podcast of our fight, because I have the
whole thing recorded.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
So do I. I haven't listened to it. I haven't
listened to it.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
I have not. What do you think I sat and
listened to it back? I just, I just, I just
I was laughing, going, we should do a rewatch podcast
of our argument, and Daniel could like stop and start
it and we'd be like, see that was a good
pointcap like you guys.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
All I remember was Daniel's face was like his eyes
were so big the whole time. He was like, what
the fuck is.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
My parents are fighting? Oh my god? Well, fans, let
us know if you want us to do a rewatch
podcast of our argument.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
No, no, no, no, I don't need to hear that ship.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
It's about ten minutes long, and we have it all
on tape, you guys, because you're the best fans and
listeners in the world. It's season four and we have
Heather Graham, the Heather.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Graham in the house. Before we get going, we should
probably five. I'm not sure.

Speaker 7 (11:55):
We made about a bunch of story here.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
What are you going to bring the season four? That's
that's unique and fresh and different, Donald, because listen, we're
running out of seasons everywhere having so much fun. Although
I'm going back to work, that's gonna be all be tricky.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
But listen, I go back to work too, Man, this
is gonna be very different.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
I know we're gonna have to get clever. We'll talk
about that.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
I got it, I got it. I gotta tell you, man,
I'm a little nervous about Are you traveling for your movie?

Speaker 2 (12:42):
No, it's it's it's here.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Thank goodness. Man, I gotta tell you, I'm worried about
traveling for projects and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Where's your next project located?

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Well, my pro the project I'm doing now is still
in Los Angeles, but there's a possibility that something could
happen in the A t L. And I'm nervous about
that because the ATL has different rules than Los Angeles has.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
What are you giggling about over there, Joelle? You can.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
I have a lot of cousins in the ATL have
a group chat that's mostly based in that area, And
so I think it's still apprehension is.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Warranted about LA. What about LA opening back up even
though it's fucking crisis.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
But the numbers are going down, so I can see
where he's where they're coming from.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
This guy did a funny video I read tweeted. You
can find on my Twitter where he was. It was
really funny. He just riffed it. It was like, so
basically LA is like go out, but don't But if
you want to go out, you can, but the restaurants
are going to be open but don't go because it's
not safe. But if you do, go to restaurants. But
if you don't, sit outside. But if you do, you're home.
But you know, I'm fucking riffing a horrible version of it,
but it was really funny.

Speaker 5 (13:52):
Zero percent capacity in our hospitals no sense.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yes, I thought we were at twelve percent. Now we're
still at zero percent.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Big snowball. Makes no sense to open up. But I
guess people, why, you know, why are they opening up?
I mean, obviously businesses needed, but I mean why profits
over people?

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Baby, No, But the state of California as a whole
is uh, the numbers have gotten better as a whole
of the state, in the state of Cali.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Why why is Los Angeles opening up?

Speaker 3 (14:24):
I have no idea why.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
I've gotten all these emails from restaurants that I'm that
I go to, like yeah, we're back open as a
beta da da.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
I'm like what, yeah, I'm just it just it's really
scary right about now, Like there's new strands coming out.
Apparently the vaccine is holding steady, and we'll combat against
these new strands, but some of them are more contagious
and deadlier, you know, and the world's still moving. I
get it. I need to, you know, sack up and

(14:53):
get out and make things happen. I got to pay
my bills, just like everybody else does. But this shit
is scary, zact. This ain't no, oh, this isn't. I'm scared.
I'm gonna go outside and I'm gonna see the bully.
This is I'm scared. I'm gonna go outside and there's
a possibility. Not only do I gotta worry about violence.
Not only do I gotta worry about you know, that

(15:14):
unknown element out that evil element out there, that's that's
gunning to kill me. Now, I gotta worry about a virus.
Like people were talking about how it's like the flu.
I don't know nobody to die. I don't know anyone
that die from the flu. I don't know one person
that died from the flu. Not one. I'm trying to think.
I'm sure there are people out there that do, but

(15:35):
I don't know one person. I know a few people
that have died from COVID nineteen mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
It's scary, man, it's legit. Your your right to be scared.
All you can do is be as safe as you can.
I don't. I barely leave my house these days because
I just I think it's not safe, It's not worth it.
What am I going to do with the car? WASH's
just not worth it.

Speaker 8 (15:53):
I think the one thing that could be said about
this entire thing is that this is a failure of
policy on our government across the board.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Okay, where you are.

Speaker 8 (16:02):
You look at every other country in the world, the
and the empathy that the people had for each other,
and the empathy that the government had for its people
allowed them to progress and move forward. And in this country,
it is that lack of empathy for the people themselves
and this need for profit, this need to keep everything going,

(16:22):
that has gotten us to where we are now. We
do need to keep everything going. We need to start
our life over again, but we just did not take
the steps to earn that.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
And how you feel like California, which is supposed to
be like the example of of well, I don't know
if it's supposed to be the example, but it is
like the most liberal state, right, I mean, maybe except
for Washington or I don't know.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Sure, are we one of those populated?

Speaker 2 (16:46):
We're the most populous, right Damn?

Speaker 8 (16:48):
I think so?

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (16:49):
I mean California is the ninth biggest economy in the world.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah, and I just think it's embarrassing how poorly it's
been handled here where we like to think that things better.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
But didn't we have it on track? Weren't we on
track for a good portion of the Like I remember,
at one point in time, we were the model, we
were the we were the you know the Yeah, in April.

Speaker 8 (17:13):
We were right the curve started going like this, and
we saw the curve starting to go down, and people
were like, great, open to clubs, and then it went
straight back up.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Right, people, people had to go see uh, what's his name?
Bow Wow? You had to go see little bow Wow. Listen,
let's switch to a positive topic, like Heather fucking Graham.
Who's here? Bring her in?

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Funny hotness, holy funny.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
And I gotta say, what bullshit that JD would ever
get Heather Graham. But let's bring her in. Let's bring
her in. I wonder if she looks like Heather Graham. Oh,
look at her apart there.

Speaker 6 (17:54):
I got to start recording myself.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Right, hi'tiful, Oh my god, so good to see.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
You, Hether. I just I just said the sentence that
had to start things off that there's no fucking way
JD could have ever gotten Molly clock.

Speaker 9 (18:11):
Oh come on, look, we know the real love stories
between you guys. Okay, of course is between you two.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Of course. But Heather, I just want to say that,
you know, Donald that I've been doing this. We haven't
watched the show in twenty almost twenty years, and every
we're having all these fun times rewatching and laughing at things,
and I just got to say, right off the bat,
you are so fucking funny on the show.

Speaker 9 (18:36):
That's where I want to do now that watching it,
I'm like, oh my god, I want to work on
it again.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
I know.

Speaker 9 (18:42):
That's so fun I don't know if I've truly appreciated
how great it was at the moment.

Speaker 6 (18:46):
Like Bill Lawrence is pretty genius.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
He is, and I think he gave you a really
hard character to play, and I didn't realize that.

Speaker 9 (18:53):
Say he is so smart, because that is actually a
lot like what my personality really is.

Speaker 10 (18:57):
I remember how he described it to me.

Speaker 9 (18:59):
He's like, she's because I'm super into psychology, right, so she's.

Speaker 6 (19:03):
Really perceptive and smart, but she comes off.

Speaker 9 (19:05):
Kind of spacey, and you know, she's really sweet, but
she has like some bad romantic instincts.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 6 (19:13):
It's kind of looking back, I'm like, that's a pretty
perceptive reado.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Bill read you like a bill read you like a
Tarot card. But I was watching it going, you're playing
so many things at once. You're playing she's a doctor.
She's obviously charming, but she's kind of kooky. She talks
to herself, she holds people's faces, she sits alone, she's
looking for friendship. I mean, she's She's like, you're playing
like ten different things. You're juggling all these balls, and

(19:41):
I really I'm not just blowing smoke. I thought you
were very very funny in.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
This Thank you, very funny, very charming, very very charming too.

Speaker 9 (19:48):
Well, Look, I think it's a mixture of the fact
that I'm great and also that is a good writer,
Like he wrote a smart character, like you can't play
a complicated character like that unless someone writes it for you.
So he gave me a great shot in writing that character.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Now, how did it come about, Heather, Because obviously we
knew you. I remember us being told you were gonna
do the show when we were like, oh my god,
Heather Graham's going to do our show. And I was like,
oh my god, Heather Graham might be one of my
lovengers And so how did did Bill just reach out
to your agents? How did it come about?

Speaker 9 (20:17):
Yeah, I think he reached out to my agents, and
of course you guys are all fabulous. So I was
so flattered and I was really excited to be on
the show. I mean, watching it, it's really holds up
like it's really a good show, Like I really want
to be on it more. I'm like, I want to
I want Molly Molly to have some more and more
plot lines.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
I was so happy when you texted me. I was
texting Heather and she goes, I want to do more
episodes of this.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
That would be great if we could just all go
back and do this show all over again, just for
a season. I know everybody whoever was on the show
for more than like eight episodes and get them back
and then let's just recreate one last season of Scrubs
with it.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Would be fun. But the thing is is that, I mean,
we always get asked this to do this, but you
need Bill to do it. Obviously, Bill do it. I
think he'd do it. He just has a time management
problem because he has he has you know.

Speaker 9 (21:12):
What, my friend's working on his show right now, my
friend Jamie Lee. I think she sent you her script,
which one on ted Lasso.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Oh yes, I did read her script. It's great.

Speaker 6 (21:24):
Yeah, yeah, it's really fun.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
She's one of the writers on ted Lasso.

Speaker 6 (21:26):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
So Bill has so much going on, and but I
think you obviously need him to be involved, you need
him to focus, and I just don't know that right
now that that's that's possible because he's got so many
things on his plate.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
I mean, time has time has to be right because
everybody's everybody is just you know.

Speaker 6 (21:45):
But it's such a good show.

Speaker 9 (21:46):
It really holds up, like you know how some things
you think they're great and then you watch them later
and you're like, that's not that good, you know, But
Scrubs is really good, like later, like years later.

Speaker 6 (21:55):
It's it's really smart.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
It's really good. I am Heather.

Speaker 6 (21:58):
You guys are great.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
I get made fun of on this podcast because I
always talk too much, apparently about my favorite episode, which
is the one I first one I directed, which the
whole point of the episode is the Donald line going
to quest to bring you sweet the permissions from Elliott
that we're allowed to have sex. And I just think

(22:20):
that episode was so special.

Speaker 6 (22:22):
That was so fun.

Speaker 9 (22:23):
I mean, obviously you're such a fabulous director.

Speaker 6 (22:26):
I mean it was so fun to work with you.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
I mean, come on, you're you're like this, we need
to rush through this section.

Speaker 9 (22:32):
But you're being so modest, not like you're dating some
like hot starlet right now, like you know I am,
But I'm very flattered that you'd want you'd want to
date me in scrubs.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
I I listen. The joke of is continues that the
TV guys get way hotter girls than they deserve, and
Jade getting Molly Clark is.

Speaker 9 (22:52):
H But you know what's funny is that, like, you know,
when you look at yourself, you don't really think like, oh,
I'm attractive, but.

Speaker 6 (22:58):
Like looking at the show, I'm like, wow, I was
much prettier than I thought. I mean, it's like, do
you want to look at yourself?

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Donald you? How did you go?

Speaker 3 (23:10):
I just want to. I just want to because I
don't know how this is possible. You're saying that when
you look in the mirror you sometimes say I'm not attractive.

Speaker 9 (23:21):
Well, no, I think it's like she's.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Else.

Speaker 11 (23:27):
Anyone on his planet could look at Heather Ground and say.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
To others like, well, no, no, I mean, come.

Speaker 6 (23:34):
On, but I do the trol right now.

Speaker 9 (23:37):
I'm just like in the pandemic sitting in my apartment,
like I can't.

Speaker 6 (23:40):
Go out troll.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Any person does that.

Speaker 6 (23:46):
Insecure?

Speaker 9 (23:47):
Like I think I looked at the episode. I was like, wow,
Like I think I was insecure. You know, you don't
think I don't know, I mean, did you guys think wow,
I'm just like so gorgeous and like all the ladies.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
I never think that though. But Donald record, however, is
you know I got Casey Cobb and that's it And
I'm happy.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
You know, Donald and I don't really look at ourselves
and think we ever really.

Speaker 6 (24:10):
I mean, you guys are.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Like I'm sure. I occasionally will see a picture of
me that I think is good and I'm like, oh,
a picture of me. I like, I look, I look,
my nose is at a decent angle there.

Speaker 9 (24:23):
I like you you were doing some chest nudity in
these episodes, and one I did, I was in decent shape.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Well, this was clearly coming back from a hiatus season.

Speaker 6 (24:33):
You look pretty fit.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Yeah, I must have been in someonet ship because season three,
when you came back, you weren't as in.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
I know I was Doe, I was something was up.
But I really like my hair in this too. I
thought my good I thought, Soara's new hair looked good.
We're done with the She's great.

Speaker 6 (24:49):
I love Sarah on the podcast. I gotta go back
and listen.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
We had her on a bunch. We're gonna have her
on I think maybe next episode. But let's go through
so I had. The way this works is Donald will
first do a summary of the episode, and he does
it in roughly thirty to forty seconds, right, Donald, something
like that in that in that range, and then we'll
discuss the episode after. So I get my time route Heather,
because I like to time Donald's see how fast he

(25:14):
can do it.

Speaker 6 (25:15):
Wait, wait, Zach, where are you?

Speaker 2 (25:17):
I'm in Los Angeles?

Speaker 9 (25:19):
Okay, cool, looking at your window. I don't know why
it looks like it was like snowing or something.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
No, no, no, it's sunny, although abnormally cold. All right, Donald,
are you ready?

Speaker 3 (25:27):
I believe I am.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Please impress Heather because you know she's a VIP guests.
All right, on your marks, get set go.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Season four starts off with a bang. We gotta have
the gram, y'all. Yeah, the gang's all grown up. There'll
be doctors in one week. JD's excited, Elliott feels left out,
Colin Turk are really feeling the pressure of their new nuptials,
and Cox has seen it all before. Responsibility. I'm not

(25:57):
a fan of the word, but I understand its importance.
When we're young, we can't wait to have it, but
once we get it, we are often overwhelmed. I am
the airy, irresponsible, but thank goodness for Casey Cobb.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Amen. Wow, that was a good wrap up, and you
stuck the landing with a testament to your wife.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
You know you always gotta when when when talking about
your flaws, you talk about what makes it so your
flaws are acceptable to the world. And I am lucky
because I have Casey Cobb who takes my flaws and
says it's his flaws. Love him for it.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Oh that's so great. You're so lucky to have a
woman like that.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
I do.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
I gotta.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
I got, I got the best hype man like you
know has meth bleak. I got freaking Casey Cobb.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
She's your Farnsworth Bentley.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
No, no, no, no, no, that's that's like your that's
like your assistant.

Speaker 6 (26:50):
Was it fun riding on those scooters? It looked fun.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
That wasn't us, By the way, way, how did they
do that?

Speaker 3 (26:57):
How did they do because that looked like us?

Speaker 2 (26:59):
By the way, I gotta say whether it's funny you
bring that up? Because I am a tech film geek.
I like to zoom in and figure out how shit
was done. And I'm the only thing I can assume
on that scooter gag is that the stuntmen are slightly
out of focus and they look enough like us that
you can't tell.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
But we're making my face, they're making our faces and everything.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
But it's not green screen, and it's certainly not us
doing scooter tricks. So I don't know what the fuck
would they did.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
This is an ask Bill question, season four ask.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
I don't know if Bill will know. It might be
an ask Randall question?

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Can we get Randall? Let's ask?

Speaker 9 (27:31):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, we have the power. Okay, this is our first
edition of Ask Randall.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
You gotta put some fancy music here, yes, and maybe
it needs.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
To be like village people.

Speaker 6 (27:43):
Hey Randall, wait, your dog is so cute? What kind
of is that your new Dogsactly?

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yes, that is my dog who's one year old. Her
name is Billy, and she's a rescue and she's my
favorite creature. But wait, I wanted to say so, Randall.
So Heather, we're gonna ask Randall a question. He won't
answer it live here, obviously, but we'll put in the answer. Randall,
how did we do that scooter gag? Because it's so

(28:09):
it looks so good. I know that Donald and I
obviously weren't doing tricks like that, and it's not green screen,
but it kind of looks like us. My only thought
is that the stunt men are enough out of focus
that you can't tell that they're stunt men. I don't know,
but it's it's dupe. It's it's it's what's the word?
It's not duped? Me? What is the expression?

Speaker 3 (28:29):
It's I was duped.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
I've been duped, I've been tricked, I've been fooled. How
did you do it? Randall? How did we do it
as a team?

Speaker 4 (28:37):
The scooter thing from episode one, season four? It's really funny,
it's great. Uh, what I guess what you need to
know is it was season four, so that deep into
a show. We had regular stunt people who always doubled
for Zach and Donald and as much fun as we
were having. And when you have people around like that,

(28:58):
they get to know the actors and they're hands of
the show, so they know the mannerisms and the faces.
And then we put Judy scooter on her rig so
she held steady while they did their well, they did
their thing, and obviously as a fan, you know that
scooter gags became a big part of the show. So

(29:21):
that's it, but definitely fun and memorable.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
If I did do it, I don't remember how about that.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
We didn't do it too. They're doing they're doing like
serious tricks and.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
They're they're like spinning around on the Bible.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
No, but they're one where he's riding the scooter and
his feet are on the ground and he's sliding. I
don't know how they did it. Thank you, Randall, Thank
you Randall. All right, we need to take a break,
you all, yep, all right, we'll be right back after
these fine words. Been the Heather Graham, you guys, the
Heather Graham. All right, Heather, so you get your big entrance.

(30:01):
Anytime there's a leading lady entrance onto Scrubs. They always
have their beautiful blowing entrance. We always I feel like you,
more than any character in the nine years of Scrubs
had the most slow motion fan blow.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
Really, I'm so flattered.

Speaker 9 (30:18):
I mean it is cool, like as a woman to
get like some fans on you and like a slow
motion entrance. I did feel like I'm grateful, and then.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
We don't discriminate. It's not just a fan entrance for
the women. Scott Bowley got a lovely Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
That's and in yours we reveal that the janitor is
holding a fan on you.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
That's true, right, because he's drying wet. You're because somebody
you're urinated on the floor.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah it was. Was there a urine problem?

Speaker 6 (30:48):
It's like a wait, do you know what I noticed?
I don't know, did you guys notice this? From watching?

Speaker 9 (30:52):
I recognized that I got to keep a lot of
my clothes, and I was recognizing my clothes. I'm like, oh,
that's where I got those shirts and scar.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Welcome to Welcome to Scrubs. We all, we all took
what we needed. The sequence of us missing each other
and being reunited is so funny when Donald's back from
his honeymoon.

Speaker 9 (31:13):
I think it's like you really feel the love you
guys have for each other, which I think is in
real in life and on the show you can feel
that love.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
What really caught me off guard, though, was when they
were right next to each other.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
What was their plan? Why they had so much trouble?

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Meaning up right, we'll call that from here on out,
we'll call this roof a. Yeah, this happened.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
It's just over and over again, turn J.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
JD, and then they run past each other in the hallway.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah, it's like so so broad. And that is the
first mount backwards eagle in Scrub's.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
History, the reverse eagle, the reverse.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
I remember us coming up with that on the day
and being like, this is so stupid, But we were
walked laughing so hard.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
We were so kiddy about it, like literally.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Well, the funny thing is we had been separated for
the hias, so we really were like we really were
feeling like that.

Speaker 6 (32:11):
Like Turk.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Oh, I really I didn't understand why did Turk and
Carlyly decide to immediately leave from the plane go to
the hospital, like from the from there.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
The airport, Well, maybe they timed it out so they
had to shift, they had to get back to just
in time. They maximize their money.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Just the dumbest maneuver by them.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
It also might be a TV show where it's better
for them to arrive.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
At that's I'm gonna go with the ladder.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
I'm gonna go about the sugar Hill Gang alarm clock.
That's that was cool.

Speaker 6 (32:42):
That was very cool.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
I am a fan of the sugar Hill Gang. That
was one of the that that is the second rap
that I ever learned. The first one was because these
all the breaks, break it up, break it up, break
it up, or you could do break it up, break.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
It up, break it up, break what's that?

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Curtis blow Baby.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
To the sugar Does the sugar Hill Gang have other
songs that are popular besides this one? Hop hip hop
to the hip hop hop?

Speaker 3 (33:12):
You don't, that's just I mean it's the hip hop
anthem though, Like that's one of the that's like.

Speaker 6 (33:15):
Do you guys get to meet them? You guys get
to hang out with them?

Speaker 3 (33:18):
They did the scene where where they're in the Mini
Cooper and they're rapping. Actually remember them and I got
to dance with the spinning What was it like?

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Donald? Because you know you you had liked them. I remember,
I mean I knew the song, but I wasn't a
huge fan of them. But it must have been fun
for you to meet them.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
It was a lot of fun for me to meet them.
That's royalty, you know what I mean. That was they're
like the some of the they're like the originators of
hip hop. You know, if you just listen to the
sound and the way and the way it comes up,
and there was you know, it was one of the
longest songs ever too back in the day, so you
could rock out to it, and and the beat was
five boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom

(34:02):
boom boom boom boom.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
That shun there was I noticed in the alarm clock
moment they're both everyone gets a chance to rap except
one guy, And so he was just kind of there
like bob in his head, excuse.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Me to bebore. We do guess what, America, we love you.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Give another guy a chance to rap. Guys. I laughed
out loud when I hit snooze and the sugar Hill
Gang falls asleep. That was clever. Now, Carla's chairs. Another
funny thing So Carla has moved into the apartment and

(34:39):
she's brought with her these those chairs that you kind
of just kneel on and uh and I laughed out
loud when I fall over, and I'm like, it's like
a bear trap.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Did you were you really connected to the trair?

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Or was I really went over in that thing?

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Really? Well, I imagine that's a lot of pain, dude.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
I went onto a thin matt and I fine, Okay,
it was definitely didn't hurt as much as other things
I've done for for America to laugh at.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Do you remember rice Dream?

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Rice Dream was rice?

Speaker 6 (35:10):
Yes, yes, I remember that.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
You probably drank a lot of rice dream. It was
ice cream, but yeah, oh it was ice cream.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Did you eat ice cream? You were?

Speaker 9 (35:22):
Well? Okay, look, do you remember that the the no
fat eating craze where like we all just ate all
the sugar, but it was we tried not to eat fat.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah, well, you know we.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Were wrong.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Because you're supposed to have some fat, right, No, but rice.

Speaker 6 (35:37):
Dream, Yeah, Fat's good and sugar's bad. Now we know.

Speaker 9 (35:39):
But basically rice dream is if you don't want to
have dairy ice cream, you can have ice cream made
out of rice.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Icy, but it's way more sugar, and.

Speaker 6 (35:48):
It's tons of sugar.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Everybody's so crazy about this beyond meat and all of this,
you know, beyond stuff. It's processed so much, you and
and and and that's just as bad is eating red meat.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
You know what I mean. Oh No, if you have
a if you have a feeling that you don't want
to eat animals, that have that level of consciousness.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Right, Okay, Well that's a different thing. If you're like,
I don't want to eat animals because they're alive and
I want everything to live. I totally understand that. I
have a question about plants. Then also, but that being said, I.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Know, but I mean, for example, did you watch that octopus? Teacher?
Is that what it's called?

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Guys, I don't want to eat I don't want to
eat an octopus anymore. I don't. I'll never eat a
dolphin either. I'll never eat dolphin.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Watch octopus, teacher.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
I saw that octopus freaking opened up a freaking jar
from the inside of I.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Know you don't watch things, but will you please watch this?
Pretend there's a Star Wars subplot. You have to watch this.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Do they blow up with the Death Star in it.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
I'll sit next to you and be like, imagine that
this moment, that that's anakin. That fish's anakin a man. No,
it's so good. That's the title, right you guys Joelle
My octopus teacher, Yeah, My octopus Teacher. If you haven't
watched it, please watch it. It really well. At the
very least, it made me go, well, I'll never eat

(37:12):
octopus again. They're super smart.

Speaker 10 (37:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (37:15):
I was crying. I thought it was inspiring.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Oh my god, it broke my heart. I was crying too.

Speaker 10 (37:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (37:21):
Yeah, it's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
They snuggle at the end. Oh, I want octopus snuggle.

Speaker 6 (37:27):
I know he was in love.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Did you guys get that thing I sent you in
a text message with the two dogs that keep posing
for the camera.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Oh yeah, the white and the black dog.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
The white and black dog.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Oh kind of reminded me of us. Oh great rant
from Johnny.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yes, Johnny has a very long, epic, funny monologue that
we couldn't possibly do justice too. But it's listing. It's
like a season four opener. It's like listing all of
the things he hates, including Hugh jack Ue Jackman. Is
this the first time he mentions hating here.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
This is where the hate began for Hugh Jackman.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
People have always asked us, why does doctor Cox hate
Hugh Jackman? And I think Bill's answer is usually let
that he was jealous, that that Hugh Jackman was good
at so many things.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
It has to be that, because I don't know how
you can hate Hugh Jackman.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, nobody hates Hugh Jackman. He's Wolverine.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Wolverine, but he didn't singing dance about to say, not
only that he is a phenomenal actor.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
He's about to star once Covid is over in the
Music Man with Sutton Foster on Broadway.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
I mean, you gotta come up, going, girls, she went
from younger to freaking to Freakings.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Is first and foremost a Broadway dancer, musical theater star.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
But she was in Younger too, right, Yes, she.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Got younger after her success on Broadway as.

Speaker 5 (38:45):
Early modern Millie. Yeah, and the Drowsy Chaperone.

Speaker 8 (38:49):
Yes, Joell love Drowsy Chaperone.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
She's like the Scarlet Johanson of Broadway musicals.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Oh shit.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Her dancing is so insane that, whereas some people on Broadway,
you go wow. She has a sick voice and she's
an okay dancer. Oh my god, she's a dancer, but
she can kind of sing. Sutton is like level ten
on both.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Well, I ain't seeing her do to freaking. I think
my butt getting big challenge yet, so I don't know
about all of that.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
What's the I think my bud getting big challenge.

Speaker 5 (39:20):
It's the buzzet challenge.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Is oh you dropping yes exactly things. I don't think
something's that kind of dancer.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
She she ain't my hype of that.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
She don't dance my So do you go look at
are you on TikTok? Now? Donald looking at these?

Speaker 3 (39:34):
I am not on TikTok, but that I think my
bud getting big, my buck getting big. And then it's
like women standing there like this right, like they're normal
like this right, and it goes. I think my buck
getting big, my buck getting big, my butt getting big.

Speaker 11 (39:49):
And they turned to the side, drop right and and
down like this what they ask the that ass.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
In the camera, if you get the chance, look.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
For you seeing these if you're not on TikTok.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
Because they show up on Instagram.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
I'm not doing research for the show solely.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
Just for the show, don't.

Speaker 6 (40:15):
I just I think my butt getting bigger?

Speaker 3 (40:17):
What was it called? What was it called?

Speaker 5 (40:18):
Joel call the buzzet challenge, the bust challenge.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
I fell bustt challenge, b U s s I T
right bust busses find out because this is important.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Yes, this is very important because I've seen some of
the I've seen some of the I've seen some people
that I didn't think they butt could get big like that.
I was surprised that they butt got big.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
All right, well, I'm going to research for the show.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
For the show. Do it for a show, because that's
why by time.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
I go on TikTok, I have gone on TikTok just
because I'm curious what everybody's up to, and you can
get lost in some crazy ship like what I'm I'm
not even talking about that. There's a lot of sexual stuff, obviously,
people dancing provocatively, but I mean, like, no matter what
you think of you can need down a wormhole. I mean,
like anything on the Internet, you can get down the
craziest wormhole of conspiracy theorists and crazy people. Joelle, you

(41:11):
on TikTok.

Speaker 5 (41:12):
No TikTok scares me. I'm overwhelmed by all of the
content and all the options you have, and I was like,
how do you even press record on here? It's for
young people and official, Well, there's a.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Lot of young people that aren't on it. I mean
it started I think as like kids doing the choreographed dance,
but now there's a lot of other aspects to it. Wait,
he's holding up his phone. Are you going to show
us a bust? It's blown out? Can you fix it?

Speaker 6 (41:35):
We can't see it.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Can you fix it? So it's not blown out? All right? Woman?
Oh they changed clothes as well when they bust.

Speaker 5 (41:40):
Oh yes, oh essential.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
I never thought i'd be watching twork videos with Heather Graham,
but here we are.

Speaker 8 (41:49):
It's supposed to be like you're in casual clothes and
then once you drop it down down.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
So here's somebody who I would have never guessed.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Okay, attractive woman in her sweatpants, just hanging around and
I feel like she's about to bust it and she does.

Speaker 6 (42:07):
That's interesting.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Yeah, she messed up her.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
She got the framing wrong.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Yeah, we missed. We missed the butt, the.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Bucket big, we missed the but get big.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
All right, let's focus on scrubs as much as I
want to do a bus set rewatch show.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
We should we should totally do a bust rewrote show.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
We will do after we're done with smooth scrubs. We'll
just review buzzet videos.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
We'll just so send your busseet videos.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
To Oh my god, no please don't, please don't please don't.
I don't need that ship.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
My wife would be like, yo, what the fuck is like?

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Sorry, honey, it's my job. I now review busseet videos.

Speaker 6 (42:42):
You guys have not changed very much.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
I know we're better for worse, Heather for better for worse.
What are we talking about here? Well, of course you'll
beat her son. She's having half her brain removed. Oh yeah,
that was so. Kelsel says that to me when I'm like, oh,
I'm trying to be nice in my vision, and I'm like,
when I get back here, we're gonna play scrabble. I'm

(43:08):
gonna beat you, and Kelsey goes, well, of course you'll
beat her son. She's having half her brain removed.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Yeah, a dick.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Malik blew up, Malik blew up. Yes, the car blew up.
By the way, were you there when they blew the
car up?

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Yes, that was I remember the heat. That was the
one thing I remember from that was I don't there wasn't.
I don't remember like the sonic boom from the explosion.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
I think they added that the boom.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
But I do remember the heat. The because the car
did explode in some you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
They must have added like some sort of pyrotechnic explosion.
But then they added the sound and post. Is that
what happened?

Speaker 3 (43:44):
Yeah, well no, it was allowed. It exploded and I
was far away from it. But I just I don't
remember the I don't remember. I remember feeling like, all right,
it's gonna blow, don't anticipate it. And when it blows
through the jump, but then the heat that came after,
it was really surprised. That was the surprising part.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Did you ask anyone before you film that scene so
close to an exploding car if they had remembered to
empty the gas tank?

Speaker 3 (44:09):
I did not.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
I feel like I would have been like, hey, guys,
just checking in on a little question. I remember the
pilot when I was doing the gag. I've told you
guys this. When I was doing the gag of the
eighteen wheelers headed right for me. The way we did
it was it was started at my face, and then
he floored it in reverse. Now, granted a sami doesn't
reverse very fast, but still it would have killed me.

(44:31):
And I remember being like, just double check in you're
in reverse, sir. He was like, yup, I mean that's
a lot of pressure. Double checker in reverse.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
You sing the sad song in this That is so funny.
We acknowledged a sad song finally.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Yeah, So this is that moment. If you guys remember
if you haven't watched the episode where Jad talks about
the score of the show, which at this point season
beginning season four, we were already kind of making fun
of the fact that they were only like six cues
that they ever used, and whenever there was a sad moment,
it was.

Speaker 10 (45:03):
Bubba ba ba ba ba buh buh bubba ba ba
ba buh buh.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
And JD for the first time, totally breaking the fourth wall,
comments on the score in his head.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Well, no, he says it to doctor Cox first. He
says to Cox, He's like, you know, I'm just I'm
just ready for the whatever it is, the news that
you're gonna give me, because I have the song ready
to play in my head. It's usually go something like
this baa b buh and then he cuts you off
and then at the end it goes to the song
and the real score comes on right, and then you go,

(45:40):
there it is.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
That's so clever. Yeah, that was really clever.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
I laughed out loud when you go there's nothing many
about me, and I go, there isn't.

Speaker 6 (45:52):
That was a really good joke.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
I'm so Ernest Donald, there isn't. There isn't.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
It's like it's sort of like, uh was his name, stedman.
It's like a baguette, like a baguette JD is type
man sometimes.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Yeah, he's very proud of how sick you are.

Speaker 6 (46:09):
Yeah, you're proud, very proud.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
I'm proud of my proud of my man's girth. Now
we say Wolverine, Wolverines, let's roll. I've never seen the Wolverines.
Is that a bad thing?

Speaker 3 (46:22):
We talked about this. You've never seen Red Dawn?

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Have you never seen Red Dawn or Wolverines? There's Red
Dawn is the Wolverines movie. Wolverines Let's roll.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Well, they don't go let's roll, but they're like the wolf.
If you get a chance, check it out. Patrick Swayze's
in it.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
I don't see tom. I don't think I want to
watch Red Down.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Really, we're not.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
I just feel like I've got a lot of stuff
to watch. I don't know if Red Down's going to
make the list.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
Okay, well it's a lot of fun. Don't watch the remake,
watch the original.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
You know, we're watching NonStop right now, we're binging like crazy?
Is Top Chef? Do you ever watched Top Chef?

Speaker 6 (46:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (46:53):
So fun, you know, because I really love the competition
of it all. I love competition game shows where talent
is the thing that makes you succeed, you know, And.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
I do like that.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
And this is so fun to watch these amazing chefs.

Speaker 6 (47:09):
It makes you hungry, though, don't you watch it? Get hungry?

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Yeah, you shouldn't watch if you've had a weed gummy
because then you're like.

Speaker 6 (47:16):
And that's like the Great, the Great British Bakeoff. That
makes you so you just want to get cake.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Way through both of those.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
You know what show? You know what show I don't
necessarily watch, but I love it because I got uh,
I got some sex because of it. What go on
Bridgerton is that the name of.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
The show's lead African.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Very handsome African American male and so and so in
the last episode, in the last episode of the season,
there's like this whole scene where they have sex finally,
and he says a lot. He's like, I've burned for you.
And I just happened to be in the area when
this shit happened. And I heard that, and I, you know,

(48:05):
there was an audible from my wife, and I was like, Oh,
it's gonna happen tonight. I knew right, it's gonna happen
to night. So I waited till she packed up everything.
She put all of the stuff away, and she was like,
I'm about to go to bed. I was like, baby,
I burned for you, did you. Yeah? She said, ship
the fuck up, get upstairs, take your buddy pants offairs.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
That is so funny. I wonder if across the earth,
because this Bridgerton show is so popular, if men are
getting more laid because their women are getting all round.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
They gotta be anybody who fight of gray, especially if
they've got like I mean, it's a show about it's
about humans rich and poor and uh, instead of it
being about race, Uh, none of that's, none of that matters.
It's about who's rich and.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
It's a class. They just make it about class, and
they make it more they ignore what color anyone.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Is right exactly, And so because of that you have
everybody fucking everybody, dude.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
And but is the sex sexty Joelle? You watch it?

Speaker 3 (49:12):
Well, that's the thing, it's not.

Speaker 5 (49:13):
It's not basically a soft core porn like really, oh yeah,
there's like the nity is way beyond like what you
would see.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
It's like more than Game of Thrones.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
No, no, no, no, no no no, it's not more than
Game of Thrones. Shonda Rhymes found a way to make
it so that you could see the ass you want
to see.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Oh, it's Netflix, so you can have more nudity than
ABC where he did?

Speaker 9 (49:32):
Is it Schondra Rhymes?

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Shonda's am I correcting? It is Shonda's first Netflix show? Yes,
so Shonda Shonda moved to Netflix from ABC and like
a colossal, gargantuan Oprah sized deal and this is her
first show and she put out a period piece. But
it's like it's like a night you know, I've seen
the ads.

Speaker 6 (49:53):
I just haven't watched it yet, but now you got me.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
You should watch it, Heather, you can check it out.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
Yeah, I found I found out a through my wife
because she was watching this show and I was like,
what the heck is this? And I took five minutes
and I realized, Okay, this isn't for me, but my
wife now has porn.

Speaker 6 (50:12):
I think that's important.

Speaker 9 (50:13):
You know, we need our porn too, you know, because
male porn is pretty disturbing sometimes.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Yeah, so women don't like to Stereotypically, women don't like
the porn that men watch. They like something like fifty
Shades of Gray or Bridgerton, Right.

Speaker 9 (50:29):
I think as a woman's occasionally looking at porn, it's
like some of it is really dark.

Speaker 6 (50:34):
You're like this, I just wanted to watch.

Speaker 9 (50:35):
Like some people having sex, you know, maybe some like
interesting situations, but I don't want to watch like people
getting hurt or they have a lot of weird insest
stuff on there. I think that's kind of creepy.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Yeah, it is creepy, right, It's like a lot of
there's a lot of that.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Why does that become such a trend? Do you think
it's because the taboos are all gone and people are like, well,
that's the final taboo.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
I mean, I guess. So it's a lot of my
step mom my, stepdad, right, and I.

Speaker 9 (51:00):
Don't want to see like an under Like I don't
want to see a girl that looks like she's like
fourteen either. I'm like, this is disturbing. Like if they're
like consenting adults, I could be like, okay, you know,
but if like some girl like looks like she's like
still in high school and she really looks like that,
I'm like, this is too disturbing.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Yeah, it seems to me that someone should start a
porn company that's specifically for women.

Speaker 6 (51:23):
They have Actually, there are some online.

Speaker 9 (51:26):
I mean not that I'm an authority, but I did
notice there was one Donald.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Do you want to start this company with me?

Speaker 3 (51:32):
I would love to, but that means we got to
go an audition. Hot guys.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
I'm fine with that. I can weigh in on that's right.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
I have no problem. I could totally tell when a
man is handsome and when a man.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Is ry handsome. Right, so we can say, Okay, James,
I like your abs. You're hired.

Speaker 9 (51:49):
But I think there's a lot of like not cute
guys important Like the women are always pretty hot, but
I feel.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Like the guys or not is because the port is
made for men and that interesting and they don't even
show the man, right, They usually showed just the woman.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
My wife, they show enough. My wife and I were
watching porn together and she was like, well, when are
they going to show the guy? I said, oh, baby,
that's not how porn works.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
But I bet you can find I mean, I'm not
an expert on on this, but I'm sure you can
find porn that's that's probably more geared towards if you
want to watch something with your with your woman, that's
going to turn you both on something that's not sort
of that aggressive male point of view. But if not,
Donald and I are going to start a company.

Speaker 6 (52:35):
Awesome.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
This is our press release.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
I laughed really hard at Acbar saying run away with Me.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
That was so funny when Heather Heather, when you hold
the guy's head and you go act barbar and he
goes unwas the best delivery. By the way, It's it's
funny that you have that the character Molly has this
technique of holding people's faces. Because I've told everyone on

(53:01):
the podcast before and I'll remind you guys this technique
I have for remembering people's names. You just picture someone
from your life in that position, like, all right, I'll
explain it better. Did I tell the Gardgate story before?
H There was this guy at the guard gate in
one of the backlots and I always had to say

(53:23):
hi to him. I could never remember his name. And
his name is Mark, so I pick my In my school,
there was like a kid named Mark and he was
a jock and he was a drinker and he was
kind of nuts and it was a character and he
had red hair and I pictured it was like the
first mark of the King in my mind. And so
I just pictured that character from my life in the

(53:46):
guard booth.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Huh.

Speaker 9 (53:48):
And but what if you don't know someone with the
same name, you will I.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Mean, unless it's a really rare name.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Yeah, what if the name is Adeo Chu.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Yeah, I would picture you. My point is is that
your brain, my brain, and people's brains have a way
of storing it better. So next time you pull up
to that guard gate, you picture the person that you
remember in that guard booth. And I just went, oh, Mark, Hey, Mark,
and he looked at me like, wow, you remember my name.

Speaker 8 (54:12):
That technique, by the way, is called the memory palace. Okay,
So when you place things in a space and give
them a very specific, pointed memory that allows you to
remember them. It's called the memory palace.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Okay, well guys, if you I'm telling you, try the
memory palace. You don't forget. If you like, you don't forget.
And I'm horrible with names, and it just made me
think of this again. Heither when when Molly the character
is doing this thing, she's holding everyone's faces and saying
their names sometimes, because how many times you meet someone
and shake their hand and you walk away and go, wait, fuck,
what was his name? Because you know you're nervous to

(54:42):
meet someone or whatever, and you're not focusing on on
on on digestible.

Speaker 9 (54:46):
It's funny how people have different reactions to Molly trying
to remember their names, Like the you know, Acbar is
sort of like oh, and then the other you know
one guy's like, let go of my face, get off.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Yeah, I mean, even as beautiful as you are, I
don't know that i'd want a stranger coming up to
me and grabbing my face. Well, not during COVID well
not during COVID times especially.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Dude, we could totally see our old cars in the
parking lot. Are you checking this at all? Have you
been looking at this.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Which car is it? You have the Z at this point,
they have my three fifty Z that you made fun of,
the silver one.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
You have the silver one right before the Porsche.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Listen, the three fifty Z came out. I told you
this and I thought it was the sexiest car in
the world. And I was so happy to get a
fancy car. And Donald made fun of me. He's like,
that's the car you got.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
I was like, dude, you got a freaking sitcom check now, yeah,
I think maybe now's the time.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Did I tell you that? Now it's season four, I'm
all in my head if I've told all these stories ready,
But did I tell you the story about what one
of the guys who I beat out for the part
I ran into him and it was like awkward, and
he kind of looked at me. He's like, oh, congrats, men,
what car did you get?

Speaker 3 (55:54):
Did you say I got the Z?

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Yeah? I didn't know that it was uncool to say
I'd want a three fifty Z.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
And when you said that, was he like, oh, well, congratstud.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
I don't think I get I don't think I had
bought a cool car yet. It had like just happened
and I was like my brain his brain was like,
I get this part. I'm getting a car.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Well, yeah, man, I mean everybody. That's everybody right. When
you audition for a role, that's the thing. It's the
hardest thing to be in a moment for these auditions.
Like you get the audition and you're like, I'm so
excited to audition for this. You look at the sides,
and then all of a sudden, your head, your mind
wanders off into all the things that you're gonna do

(56:32):
after you get the part. You know what I mean,
After I get this part, I'm gonna go on vacation.
I'm gonna what I'm gonna do with this money. I'm
gonna get me, I'm gonna get shit. My girl gonna
get a I'm gonna get her roll. And you think
about all of the things you're gonna do with this
money and all of the fame that's gonna come with
this part before you even get it, and then you

(56:52):
go on the audition.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Helps you get it?

Speaker 3 (56:54):
It never helps because you go on the audition and
when you walk out, you're like, well, I guess I
gotta wait for the next audition to get at that.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Uh No, you know what I mean, Like.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
It's the worst man, Like I always do that. The
one the auditions that I do great on are the
ones where I'm like, I don't give a fuck, man,
I'm just gonna go in there. I'm gonna do it,
whatever the fuck it is I do, and I'm gonna
leave and I'm not gonna talk. I'm not gonna try,
and I'm not gonna try and wow anybody with the
freaking what I've been doing in my off time. Fuck
that shit. I'm gonna go in there, I'm gonna fucking

(57:23):
do the audition, and I'm gonna leave. Yeah, And those
are the ones where.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Heather, do you still audition for things occasionally?

Speaker 6 (57:30):
Well, that's what I was wanting, you know.

Speaker 9 (57:31):
I feel like, you know, when we were auditioning for things, like,
I don't feel like people don't audition in person anymore,
And now I feel like everyone has to send a
tape if you ever do, like you you guys ever
audition in person anymore?

Speaker 3 (57:42):
Well no, well not during COVID.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
But before COVID occasionally, Heather, when yeah, like it was
like a super fancy director.

Speaker 6 (57:48):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
By the way, by the way, the director wouldn't necessarily
be there. It was like some mega A list director,
but they're interested. They want you to go in, and
if it was someone dying to work with, I would
do it. But yeah, you're right. I actually, I actually
think it's better, though, Heather, because you have more it's
a self tape. Well, don't get me wrong. It's great
to go in the room and meet the director and

(58:10):
shoot the ship and see if you have a connection.
But I do think a self tape you can at
least shape and practice and only send the best one.
But I think most some people might be surprised that,
you know, no matter even when you've had success in
this business, you still have to go out in campaign
to get parts.

Speaker 6 (58:27):
Auditioning is terrifying, it really is.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
It's the hardest thing on the planet when it comes.
That's the hardest thing in acting. Forget the part, forget
doing the role, forget all of the other stuff, forget
everything that comes after you get the part or before
you get the part. The audition is that's the toughest
thing to do.

Speaker 6 (58:46):
It's the actually gets.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
One shot to nail it. You get one shot and
if you're lucky, the director says, I like that let's
try it again this way. And usually when that happens,
that doesn't necessarily mean you got the that just means
your preparation wasn't what the director saw, you know what
I mean. And so it's like it's the it's the
hardest thing ever, and so to get roles and I'm

(59:11):
always I'm always so appreciative that an audition was all
it was what it took for me to you know,
you liked what I did in the room, You're gonna
love what I do when I when when the cameras
rolling the it.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Does feel like there's no other way to really do it.
But but but it does feel like not a great
test for how well you're gonna be on set because
you're coming in with all this adrenaline, you're coming in
with nerves, You're doing it in front of however many
random people, and so it's not it's a bit like
an obstacle course, you know what I mean, Like you
have to like do it now under pressure. Go. But god,

(59:45):
there is such a high though, when when you know
you killed it and they know you killed it, and
there's like, yeah, it is amazing.

Speaker 9 (59:51):
It's crazy in the waiting room too, though, when you
see other the other people that are auditioning, you know,
and if you know them, or yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
It's great, you play mind games too. I remember back
in the day, like all these people would be like
I really was aware of the psychology of the waiting room.
How people would try and distract you. How people would
you know, start conversation with you, like they knew you
were going next, so they would like try and keep
take your mind off of learning the or you know,
working on the lines. And no. I just remember this

(01:00:17):
one kid where I was up for this part and
he came out of the room and he was swiping
away his tears and he's like, break a leg, guys,
and we all looked at each other like flipping through
the sides, like where's the fucking crying scene? And this dude,
I got to know him, and he could just cry

(01:00:39):
on cue, and so he would just put it into
any audition to show off that he could like cry
even if the scene called for it, because he thought
it was like going to blow their minds. And I
remember I asked him on I go, so you're just
crying in like every audition He's like, yeah, I tried
to just to like, show him what I can do.
And I was like, wow, okay, well why do you
do that? He goes, I just think of anyone doing

(01:01:01):
anything bad to animals.

Speaker 6 (01:01:03):
Oh, I was like.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
You know what.

Speaker 6 (01:01:06):
Okay, waiting in the waiting room when you hear.

Speaker 9 (01:01:08):
Someone else killing is also sucks. Right when you're waiting
and you can hear that person who's in there is
like just killing and everyone loves them.

Speaker 6 (01:01:15):
That's also horrible.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
But don't you also remember those times when you're in
there and you hear someone go and they're like and
they suck, and you're like, yeah, so better than that. Yeah,
we should go to break. We gotta go to break. Yeah,
and I gotta peek. And then we're gonna come back
with a caller and it's gonna be so excited.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
We'll be right.

Speaker 12 (01:01:31):
Back, and we're back with the the The The Heather Graham,
she gets three these Heather.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
We take a caller on the show. Because the fans
seem to think it's super fun. We invite someone that
Joelle has pre screened to make sure they're not a
psycho crazy person, and then we they we they ask
one or two questions and then they ask us to
fix their life in some way, so we we we
And you're very good at this because you're spiritual and
you know a lot about psychology, so you're probably gonna

(01:02:06):
be very helpful in fixing their life. So let's invite
them in. Daniel, no problem, you're like Brittany Rogers. Brittany Rogers,
guest is going to need some.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
Ban Give it up for Brittany Rogers.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Bred. Hi, guys, nice to meet you. Can you fix
your camera so we can see your beautiful faces?

Speaker 10 (01:02:34):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Oh, there you go. Hi.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
Who's your friend with your Brittany Rogers?

Speaker 10 (01:02:38):
Okay, well, technically i'm the guest. My name is Alex
and this is Brittany.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Hi, Alex Rogers and Alex.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
There you go. You got your Oprah voice introduction. That's
the Heather Graham you got, Daniel and Joel.

Speaker 10 (01:02:51):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Yeah, I know. I'm excited too. I get it. That's
how I feel whenever I see Heather. So, God, is,
where are you calling from?

Speaker 10 (01:03:02):
Yeah? Outside of Atlanta?

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
Oh, at l in the house.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
I think at ls where the Little Bow Wow concert was.
Were you guys at the Little Bow Wow concert?

Speaker 10 (01:03:10):
I didn't even know he still did shows. Can I
say that I'm here?

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Yeah, you can talk about it, so we want you
to be We want you to speak freely.

Speaker 10 (01:03:21):
Oh my god, this is crazy. Okay, Zach, I have
to tell you I had the hugest crush on you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Why does it have to be past tense.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Because you are ugly?

Speaker 9 (01:03:29):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Because why does that? I mean, I know I'm old
as fuck. It doesn't have to go right. Can't you
have an old crush?

Speaker 10 (01:03:38):
It's not past present. I can't say that because I
have an even bigger crush on your girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Yes, me too.

Speaker 10 (01:03:49):
It was so beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Yes she is. I'm very lucky, very you are.

Speaker 10 (01:03:54):
I'm I'm super jealous.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
I get it. I get a girl. Listen, do you
guys have a question? You can ask anything you want
for any of us. It could be just anything that
comes to your mind, preferably a little bit about scrubs.
But it doesn't have to be.

Speaker 10 (01:04:06):
Okay, Well, I do want to do a shout out
for all the pharmacy techs because we don't get shout
outs very often.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Shout out to all the pharmacies. Did you get your vaccine?

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
I did, actually order.

Speaker 10 (01:04:21):
I got the piser one which covers the other two strains.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
So I'm good MADERNA doesn't. Maderna doesn't cover the other
two strains.

Speaker 5 (01:04:28):
Is that?

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
Is this what we're learning so far?

Speaker 10 (01:04:31):
That's what is there? There isn't research yet saying that
it has but Pfizer does they have done the research.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Okay, I have a question. What can a pharmacy tech
do not do?

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
What? What what are they allowed to do? And what
does the pharmacist have to do?

Speaker 10 (01:04:48):
Okay? Well, so I do. I work in the er.
I do patient interviews and like I asked them what
medications they're taking, so that like they don't take something
that counteracts with something that we give them, and then
the pharmacist reviews those I see. We do a lot
of like hands on and then all of our work
is checked by the pharmacists.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Got it? But are you allowed to pour out the
pills and make sure the right amounts in or is it?

Speaker 10 (01:05:13):
Yeah? So I work in a hospital, like I said, so,
a lot of the stuff I do are like IV
bags and which is my favorite thing to dot it
make like EPI bags and kepra stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
That's that's great. I have another question, can I ask
you another question about the it's not the side effects
I'm worried about when it comes to the Pfizer vaccine.
What are the allergic reactions when it? Like they say,
if you're allergic to certain things in medicine, you shouldn't
take the Phizer? Is this correct? Like if you're I
don't tell you.

Speaker 10 (01:05:43):
With all vaccines, I did. I studied vaccines in school.
It's part of you know, the pharmacy program, and all
vaccines the main component is eggs, So if you're allergic
to eggs, you can't get any vaccines. Okay, But as
far as the Pfizer one, the allergic reactions are usually

(01:06:03):
like not as well known because it's so new. They
tested it on people with different allergies, and you know,
I was told from the research that we've done as
a hospital that the reactions are minimal as far as
allergic reactions.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
Did you get every Did you get a reaction to it?

Speaker 12 (01:06:27):
No?

Speaker 10 (01:06:28):
So I don't like getting the flu vaccine, but I
do it because it's part of my job and it
hurts going in. But the Pfizer vaccine, I barely felt
it at all. I got some really major like fatigue.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
In my arm though, like okay, And.

Speaker 10 (01:06:43):
It lasted like five or six hours. I like literally,
I was like, ugh, my arm could barely lift it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
But other than that, to not get COVID though, that's
a pretty good price to pay.

Speaker 10 (01:06:52):
Yeah, yeah, And it all lasted a couple hours and
that was it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
I played golf recently with some seniors, some retired seniors,
a couple of days ago, and they were talking about,
you know how they were trying to set up their
appointments to go get it. And I was and I
was like, are you guys worried about any type of
side effects? And one dude straight up said to me,
I'm more worried about COVID than I am these damn

(01:07:17):
side effects. Man, Let's be honest, like, you know. And
when he said that, it was really clear for me. Yeah. Absolutely,
the last thing I want to get right now is
COVID nineteen.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Amen. All right, guys, in the interesting time, let's segue
to your question. Go ahead. It could be about anything, okay.

Speaker 10 (01:07:36):
So the question that I had was, there's a moment
in season five where JD like has this realization that
he's turning thirty and he's like living on that piece
of land that he.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Bought the half acre.

Speaker 10 (01:07:50):
Yeah, and he feels like he has like nothing to
show for all these years of you know, no how,
no girlfriend and every people. I feel like when I
watched the show, I was like, you're a doctor, Like
what an accomplishment? But that's not said in the show.
So I guess my question is like, have you ever

(01:08:13):
felt like this, and like, how does it compare to
now that you're older and past the age of thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
That's a great question. That's a great question. In fact,
just the other day I was thinking about something like
this and thinking when I got to be forty five,
I thought to myself, Wow, I really have accomplished a
lot of my goals. But am I sort of sitting
back now and not being as hungry and proactive at
trying to experience new things for no reason. I think

(01:08:41):
I got to be forty five and was like, Okay,
I accomplished a lot. There's still a lot I want
to do, but I'm going to lean back in my
chair a little bit. And then I called myself out
on that, like, I don't I don't want to be
like that. I want to be someone who's who's you know,
I don't really believe in an afterlife personally, so it's
for me, it's like this is it? What else? What else?
What else are you going to try? What else are
you gonna do?

Speaker 5 (01:09:01):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
I was talking about telling my girlfriend we were watching
Top Chef obsessively, and I was thinking, God, you know,
I've participated. This is an example. I participated in financing
restaurants and and and that's been fun. I think one
life goal would be, like, really be involved in creating
a restaurant and like the decor and the menu and
really really really being involved, not just an investor. This

(01:09:22):
is just a random example that came to my mind,
but things that I that I really want to accomplish
because I feel like this is this is it. You
have to seize the day and make shit happen.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
Tom Right, Yeah, I feel I you know, I feel
like that. Of course, I I think I think we'd
all be crazy to not feel like that. I think
it's only natural. And I've accomplished a lot of my
goals already, but I can micro manage that and turn
that and turn those accomplishments into but I didn't accomplish this,

(01:09:54):
I can get even more. I shouldn't say micro manage
that I could get more specific about my goals and
say I didn't I didn't accomplish this. And that's what
I find myself doing a lot. I don't dwell on
Nobody dwells on their success. Nobody thinks about how successful
they are, especially if you want to become more successful.

(01:10:15):
You know, there are some people that are like, you know,
what I did, what I said I was going to do.
I'm good. That's not me. I don't think that's anybody
on this call right now, you know. And so I've
accomplished a lot, but there's so much more that I
want to do, especially when I get specific about it.

Speaker 9 (01:10:31):
What about you, Heather, Yeah, I feel like I still
have a lot I want to do. I mean, I
think it's really exciting now that people care more about
women's stories, like I do. Feel like I kind of
came up in a time where it was probably male dominated.
So it's exciting now that people are like, oh, what
are the voices of.

Speaker 6 (01:10:47):
Women and what do women think?

Speaker 9 (01:10:49):
And me too, and that extending into like female writers
and directors and stories with female protagonists, Like I think
that's really exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Heather, are you going to direct.

Speaker 6 (01:10:57):
Yeah, I think I'm working should because.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
I remember you to a short, right, Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:11:01):
No, I actually did direct a movie. It's called Half Magic.
And I have a second movie that I now have
a financier for And oh my god, Donald, what are
you doing? Oh that's your wife?

Speaker 6 (01:11:10):
Anyway.

Speaker 9 (01:11:11):
Yes, I'm going to direct another movie called Chosen Family
that my friend Andre Rellis is going to produce and
we're just actually casting it right now.

Speaker 6 (01:11:20):
I think we're going to shoot it in Montana.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
That's great, beautiful. I remember you directing a short and yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:11:25):
I did a short too, Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I
mean it's so fun, like what you know, look what
you did as well, like just directing stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:11:32):
It's so fun to feel like you want to tell
a story for me.

Speaker 9 (01:11:34):
I feel like there should be more empowering stories for
women out there, and stories from our point of view, of.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Course, and there's such a demand now and I noticed
a real movement in the business to hire more women
and to tell more female driven stories. All right, gals,
that's answer to question one. What about question two?

Speaker 10 (01:11:54):
Okay, so my second question is.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Why doesn't Brittany Rogers or talk? She's shy?

Speaker 5 (01:12:01):
Yeah, I'm just sound too southern.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Wife to hear his wife talks talk like, hey, y'all, y'all,
I'm from wincob.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
I'm from Texas. Where we're talking slow.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
A suburb of Waco. We went on. We had last
trip to Wake.

Speaker 10 (01:12:25):
Actually, it's so southern down here that I have a
friend that told me she's from Alabama. She said, yeah.
One time in school, they took us to Daga for
a field trip and they took the school bus all
on the track.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Wait, what do you mean they put the school bus
on the track.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
And where did where did they take the school bus?
The trip to Talladega Talent, Todaega, Todaga.

Speaker 10 (01:12:53):
They went and they went on the track.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
I remember Casey was once talking about one of her
relatives house and how inexpensive it was, and she was like, y'all,
and it was a nice house. It had a swing
set in the semen.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
You know, you know they southern, like I say July.
You know it's a southern person when they say July.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
But I just love that. One of the one of
the selling points for Casey about the house being nice
was that the swing set was in the semen. It
wasn't one of those It wasn't one of those bullshit
not attached, It wasn't all over.

Speaker 10 (01:13:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:13:28):
I think Southern accents are super cute, right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
So cute.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
Yeah, there you go, girls, that's from Heather Grove.

Speaker 10 (01:13:34):
Sound dumba shit?

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
No bright, Go ahead, go ahead with your question.

Speaker 10 (01:13:40):
Okay, So my next question is what moments in television
or theater or movies, uh, where you felt like you
could relate to those moments and where you said, yes,
that's exactly how that feels. What were those moments for you?

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Well, at the end of Blah Lah Land obviously in
our show, where you just meaning like in film, well
in general.

Speaker 10 (01:14:01):
I asked that question because I mean, it's not just
the finale, it's you know that episode where you guys
lose three patients. It just expresses the the real version
of death. It doesn't sugarcoat it. And that was a
moment for me. So I was just curious if you
guys had moments like that that you were a part

(01:14:22):
of or that you just witnessed as a regular movie viewer.

Speaker 9 (01:14:26):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
I know we have Heather Graham on the show, but
my first time seeing Swingers, I had just moved out
to Los Angeles and I really felt like that was
how it felt to be in Los Angeles in the
industry and struggling as an actor. And so when I
saw that movie and the ending after he gets the number,

(01:14:47):
after he gets Heather's number and they're you know, talking
at the car and they get to the he gets
to the house and she's already called him and everything
like that, I just thought, this is the next day
she's called him. I just thought I was like, this
is perfect. This is exactly what it feels like to
be in this moment right now. Like felt like when

(01:15:11):
Fabreau's buddy says to him, we made it. We're here,
you know what I mean. We're not in New York anymore.
That's the success story right there. That felt real to me.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
You know, It's funny. I totally forgot that Heather is
the dreaming girl at the end of Swingers. Heather. We
love that movie. We talked about them all the time.

Speaker 6 (01:15:30):
That's cool.

Speaker 9 (01:15:30):
Yeah, Well, you know they made that movie for like
two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, and that we shot
on a lot of locations they didn't like. They didn't
have them shut for the shoot because we didn't have
enough money. So it was open and there were all
these people in the bar, just regular people, and we
just they had a camera.

Speaker 6 (01:15:44):
It was very gorilla.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Yeah, it was so great, amazing. Yeah, and Donald's right,
if you want to, if you're curious to know, at
least at a certain time, I mean, what it was
like to come out and be a struggling actor in La.
I think it's probably it's probably all. It probably all
still holds up. It's just that it was nineties.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
Right, Like nobody has the what was the ship that
we used to put on our cars to stop people
from stealing it?

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Oh? The club? The club?

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
We all got load Jack.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Now all right, let's move on to fix your Life.
Are you ready?

Speaker 10 (01:16:17):
Yeah, I'm ready.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
It's time to fix your lie. Now listen. Not only
do we have Heathergram here because she's a great actress,
but she's also very smart and very into therapy and
new age stuff. She's going to really lead the charge
here with your question. So you're getting a real pro

(01:16:40):
Go ahead.

Speaker 10 (01:16:42):
I guess my fix my life would be. I was
supposed to come on the podcast originally for the Turk
and Carla wedding episode.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
What happened?

Speaker 10 (01:16:53):
Well, my fiance of five years messed up. There was
there was a little bit of you know, double dipping yaho.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
Oh my god, you found out that he was unfaithful.

Speaker 10 (01:17:13):
To you, Yes, the day before Christmas. Eve.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
Oh oh that sucks.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
So after you killed him, you need us to fit,
We need you, need us to help you bury the body?

Speaker 9 (01:17:22):
Is that?

Speaker 5 (01:17:23):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
No? No, wait, wait finish what happened? What happened? You
were gonna come on the show and you had to
cancel because this is some serious drama.

Speaker 10 (01:17:28):
So yeah, so I had to, you know, go through
all of that of canceling the wedding and I'm in
the process of still moving out and yeah, so it's
is he frozen like that?

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
I'm sorry. I mean, we're trying to be funny, but
I'm so sorry for you. That's fucking horrible. I'm so
sorry that that happened to you.

Speaker 10 (01:17:47):
It sucks. I guess that's where my my first question
came from, is just like, you know, where do I
go from here? Like a.

Speaker 9 (01:17:59):
Rejection is God's protection? M Maybe he's dodged a bullet.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
I mean, if he's gonna cheat on you while you're
fucking engaged before the wedding, you think that's not gonna
happen over and over and over again. Fuck that guy.

Speaker 6 (01:18:14):
No, better to find out now before you've married him.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
You know, she said, that's what she said.

Speaker 10 (01:18:20):
I said, you're not Heather Graham.

Speaker 9 (01:18:25):
It's funny because in the episode, actually it's the second
episode of season four. You know, everyone's giving Sarah's character advice,
but she won't listen to anyone, but she listens to me.

Speaker 10 (01:18:36):
Harley gets mad about it.

Speaker 9 (01:18:37):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Now you deserve to be happy.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
Sorry, Listen, when someone shows you who they are, believe them.
And if you think that guy was not going to
do that over and over again, if he's doing that
before the wedding, like leading up to the wedding, yeah,
I mean that is the ultimate example of bullet dodged. Joelle,
come on, you're another strong female voice.

Speaker 5 (01:19:01):
Yeah no, get first of all, screw that guy for life, Like,
what is wrong with you? So I don't ever understand,
like if you don't want to do this, like you
could just be honest about it and we can. I
don't like people wasting my time, as I'm sure you feel.
So I'm glad you're like out of that space and
glad you're such a good friend as Brittany. Brittany, we
were because we were going to try to coordinate, you know,

(01:19:22):
Alex like getting married like on the same day. We
talked about having like Randall coming and officiating and so like,
and she planned a lot of this for her fiance.
And so it's like it's clear to me, Alex that
you have like so much love to give and that
you like truly care. So I would say, like, take
the time to heal from this, because you've got to
more in the relationship like that. It's a big loss.
But once you're over that, once you've put that in

(01:19:44):
its place and gone on with it, I like you
have like it's almost a gift. You've been given like
a whole new opportunity to evaluate like what's really important
to you, so that the next time you're ready to
like give your heart to someone, you're gonna be like,
I know exactly what I'm looking for and what I'm not,
and you're gonna be just already for that experience.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
Five years is a really really long time to be
with somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
How did you find out by the way.

Speaker 10 (01:20:10):
I found him at her apartment?

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
You walked in on them, did you know.

Speaker 10 (01:20:16):
I pulled up on them. I saw him walking out
of her apartment. It was kind of like a movie.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
Did you already know? Did you already have a clue
that this was going on? Or was this something that
caught you totally off guard?

Speaker 10 (01:20:28):
There were signs. I just didn't want to see them,
like I found her. It was the snapchat, and I
know how Donald feels about snapchat. It was the snapchat
that I He was on her snapchat, but there was
no conversation that I could read, and so yeah, it
was deleted. So when I pulled, I pulled. I went

(01:20:50):
left work early, came home. His car wasn't there. It
was actually my car. My car wasn't there at three
o'clock in the morning because I worked night shift. So
I just kind of drove to the last place that
he had pinged on his phone and my car was
out there, and I saw him walking out of her apartment.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
Did you confront him right there?

Speaker 10 (01:21:13):
Oh yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:21:14):
Oh yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
Oh my god. Did he deny it or did you
admit it?

Speaker 10 (01:21:19):
I mean, he didn't deny.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
I was helping her with the laundry in the morning.

Speaker 10 (01:21:26):
Actually he was doing he was doing what Donald loves,
which is God's lettuce. Yeah, so that's what he originally
told me that that was the intention. But yeah, no,
he had her hair on his shoulder.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
Oh my god, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
I'm sorry to hear this.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
You deserve you deserve much better.

Speaker 10 (01:21:45):
Well, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
That means so, how old are you?

Speaker 10 (01:21:49):
I'm twenty six.

Speaker 6 (01:21:50):
Yeah, you're so young A lot of time.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
Yeah, what was you doing getting married? Anyway? You twenty
one when you got bro?

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
You need to get out there.

Speaker 10 (01:22:02):
No, I wasn't twenty one when got engaged. I was
twenty one when we started dating.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
I know. But you've been with that guy and faithful
and committed for five years yep, and he went and
did you dirty? So now you're going to go live
your best life.

Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
I'm gonna tell you how you do it? Only fans, no,
only way to do it.

Speaker 6 (01:22:20):
I'm too, it's the.

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
Only way to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
No, it's a sight of heather where women go and
shake their booties.

Speaker 3 (01:22:28):
Why they do it? Then? Bust a challenge a lot?

Speaker 9 (01:22:31):
You know what you should get clear, get clear, get
clear on what you want and go after what you want.
And who cares about someone who he's not what you want?

Speaker 10 (01:22:38):
Right?

Speaker 6 (01:22:38):
So yeah, after what you want?

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I agree with Heather. I mean, I
think that you're going to find someone who's going to
love you and be faithful to you. And I'm not
fucking cheat on you. That's horrible.

Speaker 6 (01:22:52):
Plus, I think you've changed a lot. In the late twenties.

Speaker 9 (01:22:54):
You go through a lot, and by the time you're
in your like twenty eight, twenty nine, you may be
attracted to a totally different guy than you liked when
you were twenty.

Speaker 10 (01:23:01):
You know, I don't think I'll be attracted to cheaters.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
No, yeah, no, you want someone to listen. And I
got to tell you, you know that you I'm so upset.
You seem like such a nice person and you deserve
so much better, and you're gonna have so much fun
once this fucking pandemic is over. You're gonna think about
all the fun you're gonna have dating.

Speaker 6 (01:23:23):
In the meantime, there's people dating now. I want you
to know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
I mean, really, have you been on dates, Heather?

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
No? But I have.

Speaker 10 (01:23:29):
I have.

Speaker 9 (01:23:30):
I have some friends that have gone on some well
I'm in you know, a walking coffee date.

Speaker 6 (01:23:34):
You know, I know people that are dating.

Speaker 10 (01:23:36):
I dipped my toe in the dating pool and I'm
already exhausted.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
Oh really, just.

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
From dipping.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
I've never had a toe dipped in me, but I'd
like to try.

Speaker 10 (01:23:47):
It inappropriately, I would let flow dip a toe in.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
Okay, on that.

Speaker 9 (01:23:56):
Way, Wait back, maybe you're going after the wrong gender
because it sounds like you're.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
Pretty exciting about Yeah, maybe you want to try to
dabble with the ladies.

Speaker 10 (01:24:04):
Yeah, I have dabbled before.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
Okay, well it might be time to read dabble. We
lost Joelle, she'd be weighing in on this conversation heavily.

Speaker 5 (01:24:12):
No, I think.

Speaker 9 (01:24:15):
I just realized, like, maybe you need to go for
the ladies instead.

Speaker 10 (01:24:19):
Right, Yeah, I'm definitely gonna have to read.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
Maybe the universe gave you this opportunity because you didn't
realize that you weren't done having fun with gals, and
now you can go gal crazy for a while.

Speaker 9 (01:24:31):
Wait, wait, I have something great to say. Okay, have
you read this book. It's called Untamed by Glennon Doyle.
This book is amazing. It's about this woman. She was
married and she's an inspirational writer, and then she realized
she was in love with a woman and she left
her husband, and like she fell in love with this
woman and she was so happy and it's all about her,
like leaving her.

Speaker 6 (01:24:47):
Marriage and going through all this. You might find it inspiring.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
Yeah, untamed? Yeah, by Heather Graham.

Speaker 6 (01:24:54):
No, it was. It's like a best seller. It's like
a New York Times Bestseller's.

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
Right, Listen, I'm Heather has to get out of here,
and we have to get out of here. And but
the good news is, ladies, because you're so charming and
because you're so cool, and because you had a shitty
thing happened to you, we're gonna do only we can
do it fake doctor's real friends, and that is to
gift you a giant palette of GT's Kombucha. You're excited. Yeah, okay,

(01:25:20):
you're gonna hear I want one. I love you to
get you one too. We'll get you want you Heather,
there you go. Let's yeah. GT's Kcha is sending you
a giant palette of kimbucha that you will love. Joelle's
gonna drop it off herself.

Speaker 6 (01:25:36):
Brandy requests what flavor she wants because there's a lot
of flavors.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
Yeah, well, why don't you put out Ginger is my favorite?
I don't know what you like, Heather, but I.

Speaker 6 (01:25:43):
Oh, Ginger Ginger's your.

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
Favorite, Heather ginger Ad.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
Yeah, trilogy ginger Ad trilogy too, and trilogy trilogy is good. Also.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
There you go. We'll make sure you get all these flavors.
And Brittany and Alex, thank you so much. And we're
so sorry that happened to you. We'll hope you'll check
in with us. Will you email Joel when you finally
are are seeing someone you like, we'll have you back
on and you can we can talk with that with
you and your new love. Okay, we're gonna rub it
in your ex's face because we're gonna have you on
with your new partner. Good, all right, guys, thank you

(01:26:18):
so much for coming on.

Speaker 10 (01:26:19):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
All right, well, Heather, thank you so much for coming on.

Speaker 9 (01:26:25):
Fun you guys, it was so fun hanging out with
you virtually.

Speaker 6 (01:26:28):
It's so nice.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
I hope you come back because you've done a bunch
of these and I know people are gonna want They're
gonna I know what's gonna happen. This is gonna air,
and they're gonna flood our. We're gonna flood our social
media with more Heathers, so please.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
More HG more HG.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
And it's so fun and thank you and thank you
all you listeners for tuning in. And Donald, I'm glad
we're friends again.

Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
You know, I never doubted. I never doubted us being friends.
I knew that. Right after you hung up, I was like,
he's gonna need to He's gonna need a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
By the way, I gotta thank you because I put
all that time and adrenaline into cleaning my office so beautiful.
I have a spotless, clean office.

Speaker 9 (01:27:06):
Way, Donald, your closet looks really good too, like you've
got a very organized closet.

Speaker 6 (01:27:09):
I'm impressed.

Speaker 3 (01:27:10):
This is my wife's side.

Speaker 6 (01:27:12):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
By the way, we should send together a onesie. Heather,
would you wear a onesie? Show here the onesie? Donald?
Would you wear this?

Speaker 6 (01:27:19):
I want the kombucha, man, I mean, but also would
you like?

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:27:22):
Sure?

Speaker 12 (01:27:23):
Why not?

Speaker 10 (01:27:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:27:23):
I feel like if you see who's going to ones
real close? No, I can't see it, take it down?
Who is it?

Speaker 6 (01:27:30):
Scrubs?

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
Yeah, it's me, it's Eether. I feel like if you
took an Instagram picture in our onesie, we'd sell a bunch.

Speaker 6 (01:27:37):
If you don't mind, Okay, send me a onesie. Sure
I will.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
We had some Oh you know what's going to be.
You know what's in the store. It should be up
as we speak. So many people in hospitals told us
that we should make fake Doctor's Real Friends badge pulls,
which I didn't even know was a thing, but it's
the thing. If you work in the hospital, you constantly
are having to swipe your your ID and so it
has a retractable thing for your badge. So for all

(01:28:01):
of those people, you glorious people who ask for it,
they are officially up in the store Fake Doctors, Real
Friends badge pulls. If you work in a hospital, represent
the show, represent the posse, the community, and they're up
there on the on the merch site. Joelle, what do
we tell them? How do we get to the merch side.
We'll put the link up in the in.

Speaker 5 (01:28:21):
The notes Cotton Bureau, but I will also put a link.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
You can also just go to Cottonbureau dot com and
search for Fake Doctors, Real Friends. Donald, you want to
say to the people.

Speaker 3 (01:28:31):
Go get you one. Yeah, we love y'all, and we're
really happy that we were beginning season four. We've come
a long way but we still got a long way
to go. See you next time.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
We love you All We go.

Speaker 7 (01:28:46):
Stories Show. We made about a bunch of stories. Yeader
around you here, hop yead around you here, Hobbs, but
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