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You are now about to witness the strength of fantasy
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And welcome to another edition other Fantasy Freestyle right here
on the Sports Grid Network, episode number four hundred and
twenty eight, the four hundred convening of the stats over
beats cipher. As we head on in too week seventeen
and Fantasy Football, all seasons are largely over, but it
don't matter. We're still here to help you win your

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leagues and win that cast. I know there's a few
people in the cipher who you know, still play in
week seventeen. I know there's a few people in the
cipher who have other reasons to try to win that cash.
So we got a good show for you as well.
Perry Ing already in the chat room open that maybe
you play in week seventeen as well. All Right, we
got a good show for you. Here's what we're gonna

(01:25):
get into, all right. It is a little bit different
because we can finally look back for the most part
on the fantasy football season. I'll give you the news
and notes, right, We'll give you all the updates, will
profile some key things in the week seventeen games, right,
But what I wanna do is, now that we're sort
of closing the book, we're gonna spend some time today
looking back at two thousand eighteen verse two thousand nineteen. Okay,

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because we talked about it all the time. We talk
about it all the time, like oh, Michael Thomas, he's
got to be number one next year, right, or like
oh snap, last year it was guys like you know,
and if he didn't go first, we were making fun
of people. I want to see how it actually wound up,
all right, And we'll look at the different positions from

(02:14):
two thousand eighteen and two thousand nineteen, and we'll also
see where it may be a smarter investment to rely
on repeat performances. Okay, because right after this year, you
gotta start thinking already about how to build your team
for We had an incredible final in the stats over
Beats League. I'm talking incredible final in the Stats over

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Beats League. It turned into a game of inches people,
all right, so we're gonna talk about that. I got
another game of inches, and we'll look at some of
the key games in week seventeen. I'm focused right now.
There's a Louisiana Tech Miami game going on right now.
The Miami Hurricanes are getting actually embarrassed. Right now. They're
getting currently shut out by Louisiana Tech. I don't think

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that's good things for the recruiting trail, Manny Diaz, but
I digress. All right. We will also, as promise I
said it on Monday, Danny. You weren't here, but I
said it on Monday, that we would have the phone
lines open for the majority of the show. Danny, all right,
So when we come back, we're gonna leave them open.
The number of calls eight four four eight four three
six eight seven nine. If you want to holler at

(03:20):
the spitting statistician, wish a happy Holidays and a happy
or just gloat because the status over Beast Cipher has
championship upon championship upon championship. But let's take care of
some actual business right now, as well, since the last
convening of the Cipher, the Seattle Seahawks have answered the
call of what to do after they basically lost all

(03:43):
their running backs in week sixteen. They have signed two people.
They signed Robert Turban and they signed the more interesting
name is beast Mode. Marshawn Lynch will be in uniform
for Seattle on Sunday night as they play for the
NFC West Division title against the San Francisco forty. Now
everybody is talking about, oh, how much does beast Mode

(04:04):
have left in the tank? Will he be a dynamic runner?
Robert Turban, the veteran like, Oh, it's good because they
know the scheme. Let me tell you something. And if
you've listened to me on Make It Rain so far
this week, you've heard me say this, Marshall Lynch, I
don't care what he has in the tank. And he
might because Frank Gore we've seen this year. Adrian Peterson

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we've seen this year. But I'm gonna tell you why.
I think this is a very important signing. This is
a very important signing in my opinion, because this is
not only what you know, this is not only what
they can do in the run game, but this is
what they can do in past protection as well. And

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I think having marshawn On Lynch and Robert Turban as
kind of you know, veterans who right back there know
the scheme and everything that's important to me because for me,
it's that piece where they're gonna protect Russell Wilson and
that's truly what you need here. You have who's likely
the second uh you know what m v P guy

(05:08):
right now, you know what I mean, the second place
finisher of the m v P Award. You need to
protect him. They lost Dwayne Washington, Dwayne Brown as well,
the offensive lineman. I think Lynch and Turban are really
gonna show their veteran presence and value, not necessarily by
what they do in the running game, but by what
they do in past protection. That's very important and I

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think that's what should be considered. Also a lot of
the names you need to know listen in this big
time tilt for the NFC East Division title. That records
aren't as fancy, but it's a win. It's like these
guys gotta win in order to stay live for this
division as well. Right, DAC is very interesting with this
a C joint Okay, he was missing some throws. His
wide receivers would drop in balls also, But he's once

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again limited going into the practice week. It's not this
is not an injury that's gonna get better. He is
going to be dealing with this throughout. So if I'm
the Washington Redskins, I'm bounding dock with that front seven.
Zach Ertz, we gotta find out more about those ribs.
It is. He's gonna be a true game time kind
of decision, a true questionable with those ribs. Other people

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you need to know and remember we say this all
the time. You gotta see how it trends in tomorrow's
practice report and the latest beat reports on Saturday as well. Right,
Mark Andrews didn't practice with an ankle. They may hold
him out, Right Baltimore may hold him out. Jamal Williams
with the shoulder, James Connor with a thigh. He's been
talking about him. He's not the terminator. He's missed a glass.
In my opinion, Derrick Henry back at practice with in

(06:34):
full with the hammy uh. Corey Davis is back as
well after a concussion. These Titans they need to win
in order to lock up the number six seed that
wild card spot, all right, and they I'm gonna tell
you why motivation is very important in that game a
little bit later on. But it looks like they'll have
two big offensive pieces in Henry and Davis Back. Dalvin
Cook back limited in practice with his shoulder, so is

(06:57):
Alexander Madison. My Man Ben in the chat whom's talking
about how many people lost their championships because of Mike Boone, Right,
we said he might have been plugged in play, but
there were so many examples, Wayne Gallman, Tay Johnson where
it's tough. I did tell you in this game that
I thought the Green Bay Packers were gonna win the division,
and I thought I was gonna go under. That's what happened.
But there's more. Josh Jacobs got treated for an infection,

(07:19):
all right, and in addition to the shoulder, Robby Anderson
limited with a calf as well. When we come back,
all right, I'm gonna tell you about why if you
know why some team, there's one team out there that
might have been real smart to fire their head coach
in season, and maybe not for a reason you think.
We will also profile the stats over beats final and Danny.
I don't know if you saw this, but this was amazing.

(07:41):
We'll talk about it on the other side, and the
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(08:38):
of the Fantasy Freestyle right here on the Sports Grid network.
Yaptasab a status will beat Cipher in the building. We
got Perry Yang, we got the Henderson family making it happen,
talking about that they cast, they won their leagues. They
wont to have cash, Happy holidays. Everybody. That's really the
the Speer family in there right now, everybody from like

(08:58):
I said, Perry Yang, we got her an end uh
Harado Hernandez in there. A lot of people. Um, that's
what's up the crew, um as it were. I wanted
to talk about a um an interesting thing that I
heard um on Monday as well. It seems like Mike
McCarthy interviewed for the Carolina Panthers job. And I think
that's amazing, okay, and I'm hearing some things about it. Listen,

(09:20):
first of all, Mike McCarthy, I think it's better than
one of your normal just like retreads okay, that are
gonna be on the Merry Go Round. I think Mike
McCarthy is a marked uh increase or improvement from that.
All right. And you know, you wonder because a lot
of coaches are gonna get fired on Monday when I'm

(09:42):
on this show next on Monday, we're gonna be talking
about a lot of coaches and a lot of coach
vacancies and a lot of coach openings and how the
Merry Go Round. But Washington and Carolina have already made
that move. They've already dropped the hammer, so they are
first they can do this. They can go ahead and
try to interview their prime candidates now before say the
Giants or the Falcons or whoever else may be moving

(10:05):
on from their coaches. Right, And I think this is
a nice little situation. You got young Christian McCaffrey, you've
got d J. Moore, Curt Samuel. What you don't know
about is Cam Newton. So for me, the very interesting
question is if they go ahead and hire Mike McCarthy,
would this change the dynamic for Cam Newton. You know,

(10:26):
we've already heard he's pretty much gone, right, he's pretty
much you know, they're talking about maybe trading him. They'll
accept offers for Cam, or they'll take offers for Cam.
And maybe he was like, listen, I don't want to
be part of some kind of you know, rebuild with
some new guy coming in scheme. But what if it's
Mike McCarthy, a respected coach. Maybe then he's like, hey,
I'm cool with that. I think that is very interesting,

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So keep an eye out on that what Washington may do.
And of course, like I said, next week here we'll
be talking about a couple of other vacancies probably. We
also got a pull question up. My question is very simple.
When you're factoring or thinking about pick games this week
week seventeen, how much or do you factor in motivation
of the teams the teams that have something to play

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for verse teams who don't. Are you saying like, yeah,
it does matter only a little bit or nope? Their
professionals they should be wanting to play all the time,
right and right now, it's pretty interesting right now about
you say it does matter. I think it only matters
a little bit. I think you have to acknowledge that
they are professionals. They're trying to put stuff on tape
for potentially a new coach. Uh, they're trying to get

(11:29):
incentives you know, who knows what it is but and
you don't know. But I do think it matters a
little bit. And we'll get into some situations where it
does a little bit later on. All right, Danny, did
you happen to see um Monday night football? Danny? If
you're with me, that's all right, because you weren't here
on Monday. It was before the holidays, and all right,

(11:50):
we had Sewan Angele holding it down. We had u
Yang and the crew and Sandro making it happen for us.
But going into it, Danny, we had the stats over
beats Um Championship, Danny, and it was John G Tampa
up pick six, change his team name to you like
that verse, Christian the Cryptotoker and Danny going into the matchup.

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Going into Monday Night, Danny the Cryptotoker was up on
John G by half a point, okay, and Cryptotoker had
Aaron Rodgers still to play and John G had Kirk
Cousins still to play. They were within a point Danny
going into Monday Night football, and they both had the
opposing quarterbacks facing off Danny exactly. And so I can

(12:37):
tell you, can you understand it turned into a game
of inches. So put this up Danny at halftime. The
first one, the first one, this is nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope,
that's the reverse nope, yes, no, the first one, the
first one, nope no, we we all right, well, all right,
there was a sequence. There was a sequence. Because we're

(12:59):
trying to take people through the game, We'll tell you
see and how how it's going back and forth, guys,
it's going back and forth. Um, the very first one
was at halftime, the very and it's it should have
been number one, I believe. Do we have the one
at halftime? Can we try that one? Yes? Okay? Cool.
So as you can see going into halftime, check this out, Danny,

(13:24):
crypto Tooker is winning by point one four at halftime.
So I saw this at halftime. I was like, Oh,
this is gonna flip flop a lot. This is gonna
be really really close. And so I'm watching it throughout
the entire second half, Danny, and I'm trying, We're gonna
show you what happened. Um, okay, we can take this
one off. So it's point one four for the cryptotoker.

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Was the lead? Take that one off? Then there should
be one, guys, I think it's the next one in
the sequence. Um, where the lead flops. It's about like
twelve minutes into the third quarter. Can we try and
put it up? Okay, we'll go with this one. And
then you see you like that? So John g named
his team right, so you like that. For Kirk Cousins,
he takes the lead first drive at the first of

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the third quarter. He goes up by point one four
and I'm like, oh man, this is gonna be back
and forth. This is absolutely crazy. Take it down. Then
we got the next one, okay, and the next one
should be with about seven minutes to go, and if
flip flops again, can we put that one up? It
should be the next one in the sequence. Let's go,
let's see what we got. Yes, well there was one

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in between, okay, and then the crypto toker. Toker took
the lead, and then this is you like that taking
the lead. We can go back and forth for days. Now,
let's just go up to the final. Let's just go
to the final and the final score. There you go.
The final score was, in fact, the crypto Toker taking
down the first st ever stats over beats League Danny
Um by less than two points over John g. But

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that literally went back and forth like six times in
the second half of Monday night football. Danny hashtag game
of inches for a championship. What do you say? Yeah,
that's crazy. I remember reading your your update email all
about it because I was actually I was I was
with my dad for the holidays. We were seeing Star
Wars during so I got the recap from your email

(15:08):
about changing changing lead. Right, what I yeah, and I
so I needed to copy you on it, just so
that everybody knew that. You know, I wasn't like pulling
the carton, you know what I mean? Um, So, but
you're on it, and we we Uh, congratulations to not
only the cryptotoker Christian but also John g Uh Tampa

(15:29):
pick six? You like that? And uh they were sent
their winnings a little bit earlier on today. But that
was pretty crazy, right. We have another game of inches? Um?
Can we put the other game of inches up? I
believe it was the cook Cup of Dirt? Yeah, there
we go, Thank you, Sandro. Um. Check this one out,
Danny for a championship, Danny, This guy one cup of

(15:52):
dirt won by point zero four Danny for championship. What
do you think about that one? Damn? Yeah? And check
this out. Lamar Jackson was the quarterback of the winning team.
You know, Lamar Jackson kneeled down at the under the
game twice. If you had to kneel down one more time, Uh,
it would be a different champion in that league. That's
pretty close, right, Danny. Also note that the opponent the

(16:14):
other guy had se kwon Barkley and that game goes
into overtime se Kwan Barkley going absolutely nuts, right, um,
but still point zero four literally hashtag game of inches.
That's pretty rough. Did you um like playing any what
was like your closest playoff matchup? Danny? Uh, my class,
Well we were playing for third place. Yeah, okay, because

(16:37):
I got the I got knocked out of the the
actual championship. But yeah, no, it it was close. I
had I end up losing. I knew going into Monday
I was gonna lose. But all right, yeah, but that's okay,
that's okay. We all trying to do what we can do. Um,
you know, so congratulations to all the winners. In the
status of Beast League. A lot of people, Danny are

(16:58):
talking about that. What we gotta do is make it
even bigger next year. Are you down for that? Maybe
we have a Speeds Division and a Danny Auto Division.
I mean no, no, we would name no, no, no,
I think it would only be fitting. Stats would beat Cipher.
Wouldn't that be fitting? If we had to do two divisions,

(17:18):
shouldn't one of them be a Speeds division and one
could be a Danny Auto Division. No, it's all good, Danny.
And then like the champion, the winners of the divisions
would play each other maybe and we make it a
big old playoffs because we filled twelve or fourteen whatever,
it was real quick. We filled fourteen I think it
was Danny, and there were still a lot of people
that wanted to get down. So we're gonna have to.
I think we're gonna have to do something. And Ben says,

(17:40):
and a belt, like he wants me, like he wants
to be doing a lot of work. Then if you are,
you know, if you wanna get a connection to get
us the belt. We got these from our good friends.
I don't know if I got pulled like that, maybe
get a Roticals shirt or something like that. But in
any event, when we come back, here's what we're gonna do.
We're gonna look to see how much turnover there was
in RB one eid out one tight end one. It's

(18:02):
very very interesting, and keep this in mind for next year.
I wanted to show it right now when it's fresh
and everybody's mind, and then we celebrate the holidays and
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(19:06):
everybody agrees to chip in an extra five or ten,
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you want to do it logistically, it's all good with me.
I'm down with that. It's just a logistical hassle. You know,
I got a lot of leagues. I'm in um. But
we did it and I'm happy to do it again.
We'll see if we can work it out. If everybody's
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I thought it was really interesting, um, to look at

(20:09):
year to year turnover and kind of at the very
top of these positions, and I want to take a
minute to do that now, um. And I started thinking
about this when as by the way, Louisiana Tech has
just scored another touchdown to go up fourteen nothing on
the you with like two minutes left to play. They're
gonna win this game. They're gonna shut Miami out in

(20:32):
this bowl game. Now I understand sometimes the motivation, and
that's our poll question. Maybe these Hurricanes, there was like
four guys that opted out of this game to prepare
for the NFL draft. You know, they were a team
that maybe people thought we're gonna do some things. They
finished six and six, But this is embarrassing. You get
shut out in your bowl game. But in any event, Um,
you may have remembered I I told this story. Uh

(20:54):
last year after the Super Bowl, we did the host
on this network. We did a way too early my
draft for this year, um, and uh Kwan was the
number one overall pick and I was picking two. And
this was in like February or March, and I picked

(21:15):
Levian Bell and somebody on social media was like, oh
my god, this guy is such an idiot. You have
to go girly. It's so obvious. Oh ha ha ha ha.
Of course Speeds would be the one who doesn't go girly.
It's obvious you should be number one overall. Okay, And
last year, se Kwan finished one, then CMC, then Girle

(21:42):
then Kamara, then Zeke finished fifth, then James Conner, then
James White, and this is in PPR Melvin Gordon, David Johnson,
Joe Mixon finishing out your top ten. Tarik Cohen was
eleven and Areem Hunt twelfth. Put up the graphic for

(22:04):
the running backs. Okay, this is how the running backs went.
If you see them on the last the left side,
those are the top twelve, the kind of RB one
because most people have a twelve team league, right and
then in parentheses or where they finished this year. So
say Kwan went from first to twelve, he was still
technically an RB one, but you drafted him number one overall.

(22:25):
Didn't perform as that CMC. Of course, I'll give you
girlie who everyone all of this guy laughed at me
about that. I obviously had to take him first. He
finished as the fourteenth running back overall, not an RB one.
And you see Kamara finish eleven, Zeke Connor all the
way down, who was a first round pick, all the

(22:45):
way down to the thirty feet ranked running back right now,
similar with Gordon with the holdout. David Johnson defecated the mattress.
Joe Mixon was an RB two not an RB one,
Turik Cohen and the Bears offense not as much more
of a flex play, and Kareem Hunt, as we know,
had to suspect mention. What I want to look at, though,
is the right side. I think this is very interesting, okay.

(23:06):
And what I'm telling you here is, if you like someone,
remember how I was on Daniel Memos on carry on Johnson.
He was a guy that I was thinking was going
to take a step forward. Okay, there are people who
took steps forward. Aaron Jones is right now RB two.
He was a bottom end r B two last year.

(23:27):
He's RB two overall right now. Dalvin Cook finished thirty
because of the injuries. He's the third overall right now.
Austin Ekeler is fourth. He was a flex play last year.
You see Zeke for Net was banged up. He finishes
in the top twelve. Derrick Henry is an RB one,
Nick Chub, mark Ingram. These are all guys that were

(23:48):
r B two's or worst last year. The only ones
who were consistent both years are McCaffrey and Zeke. You
can take that one off, okay. I think that's very interesting, okay,
And that is just more evidence if you like a
guy who's ascending, you know how I talk about these
ascending young running backs like a Mile Sanders for example,

(24:15):
or a Devin Singletary for example. Who's to say that
one of those guys who finished in the low teams
this year can't make that step. So don't go off
just what happened this year. Okay, there's gonna be coaching changes,
scheme changes, development. And I think it's really really important
because people just think, oh, you just take what happened

(24:36):
last year and you kind of replicate it. No, if
you were smart, you could have gotten Aaron Jones and
Nick Chubb, a mark Ingram, a Leonard for Netta, Derrick Henry,
these kind of guys in auction leagues. You could have
not spent you know, fifty five dollars for se Kwon
Barkley and spread that money around and get you know, uh,

(25:00):
Nick Chubb and Derrick Henry. So remember that there were
only two consistent rbs in the top ten. Now let's
look at the tight end position. Let's look at the
tight end position because it's a little bit different there.
Put up the tight end one, all right, and the
tight end one. Yeah, Kelsey Arts and Kittle and those
guys again delivered right, Kelsey first first, Earth's second. Both years,

(25:25):
Kiddo went from third uh down to fourth. This year
Andrews popped up right. And I think it's interesting because
you have Jared Cooking there, Austin Hooper in there as well. Right,
those guys were in the top seven. So five of
the top seven we're the same from year to year. Danny,

(25:45):
that's interesting, you know what I mean, how these running
backs are such a fleeting thing, but there is a
tier of dependable tight ends. You know. Waller I think
could repeat that he's been a revelation. Guys like Henry
who you expect maybe to do it again. Remember he
was on i R last year, right, Um, look at
Dallas Goddard. I mean, Jason wenton, was in the Monday

(26:07):
night football booth for goodness sakes, and he wound up
his tight end the leven so far. You know, So
I think this is very interesting to me, Danny. You know,
like guys that were last year top tens and tight ends,
I have as fougass, Trey Burton didn't do Jack David,
guess what the in joku is on you if you
drafted him thinking he'd be a tight end one this year.

(26:28):
Rob Gronkowski obviously guys that people are high on like Vans.
Vans will make them dance finish his tight end thirty one.
All right, So what I'm saying is this top tier
there is some consistency with about four or five tight
ends out there, whereas if you see the running back

(26:48):
position was completely different, Danny, let's look at it. Let's
look at it for the quarterback position. Because we say
weight on quarterback, right, don't put up the image just yet, Sandro.
But we say weight on quarterback all the time in fantasy,
right I I we literally tell you I don't care

(27:09):
about it, right, I don't. I'm not gonna spend the
draft capital for a um Mahomes A Watson Rogers luck
was up there and by the way, it's final. Now
Miami Hurricanes were shut out by Louisiana Tech and what
I think was the Independence Bowl. But look at just

(27:31):
just look at the top six quarterbacks from last year. Okay,
I'll tell you they are. You don't have gonna put
him up just yet. Mahomes Okay, I'll give you he
repeated his fourth right Now, big Ben was second last
year foo gazy, forget about him. Matt Ryan was third
last year. He's finishing outside the top twelve. Right now,

(27:52):
he'st Andrew luck was fourth last year. He's a foo
grazy forget about him. Drew Brees was fifth, he's right
now QB seventeen, and Jared Goff was six, he's now
QB fifteen. Put up the graphic for the rest of
them guys. For the quarterbacks, Okay, Watson, Rogers, Brady, cam Fuezy, Rivers, Rivers, finishing.

(28:20):
But more importantly, remember how I say weight on quarterback.
Look at these guys. I told you when we went
into draft season to literally wait until everybody else had
picked the quarterback and you would still have your pick
of guys like Lamar Jamis Dak. And look at this.

(28:44):
Lamar's QB one. We all know that off the radar,
you could have had him ninth rounder later. Dak Prescott
was fifteenth last year. He's QB two. I'll give you Watson,
I'll give you my homes. Russ Wilson, who's now you
know an m v P you candidate killing it for people,
was twelve last year. You could have waited if you
needed wanted Russ. If you targeted Russ Josh Allen, it's

(29:08):
QB six. Do you think you could have waited and
got Josh Allen? Jamis Winston is QB seven. He's gonna
throw for five thousand yards. The interceptions be damned. Could
have waited for him. I'll give you Rogers, I'll give
you Brady Kyler. Murray was a rookie, Carson Wentz was
coming off injury, Kirk Cousins kind of like consistently in

(29:29):
that thirteen fourteen category. The moral of the story remains
the same. You can wait on quarterback, you can take
the graphic off and thanks guys in the pit um.
We'll look at wide receivers on the other side of
the break, because those I think are very interesting as well.
And at wide receiver, well, we're gonna do is. We're
gonna look not even at the names, but at the offenses,

(29:53):
the names of the offenses with these players, because I
really believe when whye out, you gotta look for these
productive passing games, not necessarily the player. And I'll explain
that a little bit later on when we come back
on the other side of the break. We look at
the top ten turnover at the wide receiver position. We
look at some games a week seventeen. If anybody wants
to holler and gloat with the spitting statistician, you can

(30:14):
the number of calls eight for four eight four, three, six, eight,
seven nine, and then I will share with you guys.
It's the holiday season and I've got some gifts from
the Stats over Beats Cipher. This came from the Henderson's
last year. I'm rocking it. Stats over beats Baby, Stats
over beat cipher yatou sab. You know what it is.
I got that last year. I got the damn it
doll last year. It matches. You know what it is. Um,

(30:37):
I got a package that came in this box from
a member of the Cipher, and I'm gonna show you
what I got. It was really touching. Thank you from
an undisclosed location. Thank you. Talking about more on the
other side of the break. Fantasy Freestyle coming back NFL
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(31:20):
millionaires are made. Buck back stats over beats cipher this
is uh we hat got last year stats over beats?

(31:42):
You know what it is, little microphone. I like that
you got the dammit doll in full effect. I ate
all the friendship. Red um Henry Henderson in the building
in the chat room saying he got Jamis Winston and
Lamar as his two quarterbacks because he waited on quarterback
thanks to the spitting statistician. That's what we're saying. All right,
that's what it is. Um. Let's talk about these wide

(32:04):
receivers real quick. I thought it was interesting. And here's
the point I want to make. Second year wide receivers
make a big time jump. Okay, they make a big
time jump. These young ascending receivers were guys that I
was on early in the season. I was telling you
about them all. D J. Moore, Chris Godwin, Um Cooper
Cup Kenny Golladay. You know, these were all wide outs

(32:27):
that I thought were young, second or third year ascending
wide receivers. And it was interesting we had the same thing.
So last year at the top, Tyreek Hill was the
number one wide out, all right, and he felt all
the way to be a wide out three this year
thirty first overall. Obviously he didn't play the full complement
of games. We know about that. D Hop consistent and

(32:49):
there were some consistent ones. Put them up. Put up
the graphic here for the wide receivers, all right, and
you did have some consistent ones. D Hop back to
back seasons finishing second and Herd. You can count on
de Hoop, Michael Thomas having back to back seasons being
sixth and then first. Maybe you can count on Michael Thomas,

(33:09):
Julio back to back years being wide receiver four. Mike Evans,
which is a guy who goes under respected. Mike Evans
back to back years again in the top ten was
ninth last year, tenth this year, even with the injury
missing games. But look at some of these guys who
fell off. Antonio Brown, full Gazy, Adam Theelan, Robert Woods, Keenan,

(33:35):
Allen Fell, off even Stephan. Look Theelan and Digs were
both in the top ten last year. Neither one of
them make the top ten this year because of the
emergence of Dalvin Cook. And that's what I mean. You
have to understand the offenses. Look at the top ten,
top twelve, whatever wide receivers in PPR this year, New
Orleans passing Offense, Tampa Bay Houston, Atlanta, the Rams, the Chargers, Detroit, Tampa. Again,

(34:03):
look at these offenses. These are offenses that can move
the ball, all right. And look also it's it makes
me think again you can get a guy from off
the radar to be a wide receiver. Listen and you
can take you can take the graphic off. Thanks guys.
I won the g SC League, as you guys know,

(34:25):
and you know I'm gonna putting my PayPal request a
couple of stacks um later on this week. I drafted
three running backs to start and you know what I did,
my running my whiteouts that carried me to a title
where Cooper cup, Courtland's Sutton and Curtis Samuel. Look at

(34:51):
these wide receivers that made top ten or top twelve.
Allen Robinson from off the radar Golladay, d J. Moore,
Chris Godwin. These are guy is that or this year
in the twenties and thirties, you'll be able to get
them Scotland Sutton for example. I've been talking about like
a DeVante Parker for a while, same thing at the
running back position. You know, we'll carry on me back

(35:12):
of Philip Lindsay, perhaps you know what I mean. These
kinds of guys, A Robby Anderson, a Smoke Brown. These
guys are guys that are in the twenties and thirties
but could take a step forward. And I think that
is very very interesting. All right, Danny, we're gonna profile
some games in week seventeen. We talked about if motivation
is a factor or not, and we're gonna look right

(35:36):
now scent of you say it does matter. I'll try
and find some games where I think it will matter,
um and give you some plays um after this. But
I have to take a moment out to say thank you,
um to the stats over beat Cipher. It's the holiday
season and you know we got flooded with good sentiments
here uh here at sports grid spitting statistician household and

(35:59):
uh for example, uh put up Liz put up Liz guys. Uh,
Liz hit me up on Patreon. You can put up
Liz saying thank you to the Cipher. Liz has been
tuning into the Cipher for the past two seasons and
since then, two championships. Danny shouted you out by name,
all right. Two years, two championships all because of Dane,

(36:21):
Danny Otto and everybody at the Cipher. Thank you so much,
really appreciated. One my league and one net cash Danny,
that's good stuff. Two years listening to championships. What do
you say, Danny, that's awesome. That's awesome, right. Uh? Put
up the other one that was you labeled it as
come on man, I think Sandra put up that one.
If you if you don't mind, this is a d

(36:42):
M I got from Twitter. Yep, that's the one. Um.
If you see on the bottom right, if you see
on the bottom, he says, like wow. They they were
asking me, uh to play on last night on Monday
Night Football. Theyre asked me if I should if I
want them to start Aaron Jones or Mike Boone, I
say go with Jones. Obviously that turned out to be

(37:02):
the right call. Another championship for a winner thanks to
the Cipher. You can take that one down. Um. And
then Danny, we had another one from our people, the
Henderson family. Remember Danny about twelve months ago last year,
Jennifer Henderson was had some health issues. You know, we've

(37:23):
had a year where young cos had some health issues. Um.
So are much love and respect out to all members
of the Cipher. But Harry Henderson hit me up. Let's
put that one up now, Sandra. Yep, thanks there you go.
Boon did enough for him Vikings Hickers. So Henry one
his league and won that catch. Just want to thank
us again for another successful season. All at the Cipher

(37:44):
appreciate me. I guess more than we realize. I'm the
secret weapon for popping bottles. It's a blessing. Two championships
in three years, Danny looking forward to the off season
and they're gonna send me out a gift, Henry. I
didn't get it just yet, but that's why I brought
you know, like some of the stuff from last year. Um,
and you said you're gonna call on in. The phone
lines will be open for the next few minutes if

(38:05):
you want to get down. UM, so thank you. You
can take that one down. We've seen things from Jilly
Dilley to John G to the Henderson family, Danny to uh,
you know, John G coming in young cars, coming in
with the music. But I would say, Danny that one
of the biggest members of the Perry Ing calling in
with the game of inches. Still in the chat room
right now, But I would say Danny, this year, one

(38:27):
of the biggest members of the Stats over Beat cipher,
I would say, was our man Danny Lee from an
undisclosed location right. Yeah, absolutely was a big part of
the Stats over Beats league. I believe finished um in
the playoffs. Beat you there you go. Remember we saw
a picture or video of his daughter bouncing around to

(38:49):
baby Shark. Right and by the way, anybody in the
sound of my voice watching me right now? Next week
starts Speeds versus the Kids. So if you want to
submit it next week, we'll know the playoff matchups. Have
your kids picked the games with no help from an
underdult and you can send in the audio or the
video and we will start Speeds versus the kids. Danny.
No one still has ever beaten Speeds, you know, so

(39:10):
we'll see if anyone will this year. It was close
last year, right, it was close. Last we're gonna go
with total wins, not percentages. Okay, so it's on your parents.
You gotta be with it if you want to have
a chance, you gotta be in it every week to
get a total higher than speeds. But I gotta tell
you something, Danny Auto, I got a package from Danny
Lee from an undisclosed location. Came in his box. And

(39:31):
first of all, Danny the man and the Lee family,
they're from a town called black Lick, Ohio. You're you're
you're giving away where he's from. It's not, it's not.
It's not on disclosed location anymore, black Lick, Ohio, which
I thought was interesting. It's covered for something he's he
sent it. I think so too. They could do that

(39:52):
in the armed forces. They get like, you know, massage that.
But he gave me, uh, you know, things like a
hat and key chain and that was really cool. But
he gave me tooth that I wanted to share with
the cipher. First was his patch, a patch from the
fatigue saying like he's with the fire unit, you know,
And I thought this was really cool. Danny. I'm gonna
try and get like I might save this on too,

(40:12):
like one of my blazers. You know what I mean,
what do you think about that, Danny, I'll sold on
to one of the blazers I wear on air, because
when I'm on air, you know what it is, Danny,
it's fire. You know what I'm saying, it's fire. Yeah,
you just gotta find the blazer that it matches. It's
gotta be the blaze with the right color. It's gotta
be the right style blazer. Yeah. I think everybody should
should agree. I think you should post a couple of
pictures of the block and we'll figure it out. Okay.

(40:33):
So we got the statue of a beat cipher hat
that was given to me. Thank you. We got the
Jets dammit doll. Check this out, Jared. We got a
debt voodoo doll from fans and listeners as presents. My
man who's in the Armed Forces gave me the patch
from his which is cool because yo, dared. You know,
when I'm on air, it's fire, right, And Dannielto, we
gave me one more thing. I kid you, not me

(40:56):
and my fiance the Unicorn. We got a little bit
emotional when I got this last thing, and any I
cannot thank you enough. And Jared, I'm not joked, checked
this out. There's a guy Danny. We called him the
undisclosed Location. He's in the Armed Forces obviously, right. He
once skyped with us from the undisclosed location with people
in the barracks in the background, and like they run
a fantasy league and all that stuff. It was real cool.

(41:17):
It's a big thing. Guys. He sent me his deployment coin.
He sent me his deployment coin, guys. Uh, Sergeant Danny
Lee Uh. He is a member of the three second
five Department Fire Rescue from the from the Air Force

(41:40):
from this deployment of July of eighteen to January nineteen.
And then Danny, as you know, he was coming from
an undisclosed location. But we had an idea, right because
we knew he was like seven hours ahead of us.
He was. There's a lot of sand where he is,
let's put it that way, and that's only reinfour. There

(42:00):
is a flag on here, so I know what nation
he was in. We got Arabic writing Danny Uh, Danny Lee.
I can't thank you enough, man, really, like this is
awesome and it makes me feel like we got a
community here. We got a cipher. We got a family
trying to win our leagues and win that cash, and
we do. We win our leagues and we win that

(42:22):
damn cash, and we do it and we have fun
doing it, right, Danny, This was really this was really cool.
When I opened it and I realized what it was,
I was moved, Danny. Yeah, you were showing me downstairs.
That's incredible, it really is. You know, like this is
important to UH servicemen, you know what I mean. And
the fact that he thought enough not only of the cipher,

(42:42):
but of the show. Um, I thought it was awesome
and so thank you. And we're gonna figure out how
to patch this on so that you know, every time
I'm on air you can know it's fire. Were bringing
it fire? Yep, that's right, Ben. All right. So the
poll question, though, is do you care about motivation when
capping week sevent in games? All right? And I'm gonna
tell you I find a couple of places where I

(43:04):
think motivation is gonna be very interesting, Okay, very interesting,
all right. And the first place I look is at
the Houston Texans and the Tennessee Titans. Now you're hearing
Bill O'Brien is like, yeah, all the Texans gonna plays.
He's not resting his starters. They're gonna play, They're gonna go.
But here's the catch. Here's the catch. The Kansas City

(43:27):
Chiefs play at one o'clock. If Kansas City wins, Houston
has nothing to play for. They're locked into the four seed.
If Kansas City loses, then Houston can hop them with
a win. I think Bill O'Brien is saying the right
things now because he has to. But if Kansas City wins,
and they're favored by nine or eight and a half

(43:49):
to do so, and I think they will because you know,
I think there are a team that's on a roll
right now, um and Houston ain't gonna play their people.
DeShawn Watson was banged up if you remember there in
that game on Saturday, right they're trying to nurse guys
like Whitney Merciless back d Hop. You know, we've already
lost Fuller, you know. So I think that's a very

(44:10):
interesting one. If Kansas City wins, Houston will have nothing
to play for. Other teams, in my opinion, with nothing
to play for, you know, Buffalo is locked in. Wouldn't
it be the most Jets thing in the world for
them to go ahead and win and you know, make
a worst draft pick and then a win, Jilly Dilley,
I'd be going damn it, damn it, damnit because of that,

(44:32):
all right, But I will tell you in the big games,
I'm on San Francisco. I think Seattle's too banged up.
In the big games, I think the Philadelphia Eagles will
win the division. Okay, I don't know if they're gonna
cover the point spread against the Giants, and I don't
think it'll happen that Philly loses and Dallas wins. I
do think Philly is trending up. Uh, we'll talk about
it more. I'll make it rain. We'll talk about it

(44:54):
more on Sunday. But again to the stats over beat Cipher,
remember that turnaround in the top ten. When your draft
thing next year speeds versus the kids, we pop it
off and we talk about playoffs. We're talking about playoffs
next week. I everyone who's playing in weeks seventeen, I
hope you'll do well. I hope you pop bottles. I
hope you got championship belts to where we'll figure that

(45:14):
out for the next year. Dilly Dally to the crew.
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(46:03):
some actual business right now as well. Since the last
convening of the Cipher, the Seattle Seahawks have answered the
call of what to do after they basically lost all
their running backs in Week sixteen, They have signed two people.
They signed Robert Turban and they signed the more interesting
name is Beast Mode. Marshawn Wench will be in uniform
for Seattle on Sunday night as they play for the

(46:26):
NFC West Division title against the San Francisco forty Niners.
Now everybody is talking about, oh, how much does beast
Mode have left in the tank? Will he be a
dynamic runner? Robert Turban the veteran like, oh, it's good
because they know the scheme. Let me tell you something.
And if you've listened to me on Make It Rain
so far this week, you've heard me say this, Marshal Lynch,

(46:48):
I don't care what he has in the tank. And
he might because Frank Gore we've seen this year. Adrian
Peterson we've seen this year. But I'm gonna tell you why.
I think this is a very important signing. This is
a very important signing in my opinion, because this is
not only what you know, This is not only what
they can do in the run game, but this is

(47:08):
what they can do in past protection as well. And
I think having Marshawn Lynch and Robert Turban as kind
of you know, veterans who right back there know the
scheme and everything, that's important to me because for me,
it's that piece where they're gonna protect Russell Wilson and
that's truly what you need. Here. You have who's likely

(47:29):
the second Uh you know what m v P guy
right now? You know what I mean? The second place
finisher of the m v P Award. You need to
protect him. They lost Dwayne Washington, Dwayne Brown as well,
the offensive lineman. I think Lynch and Turban are really
gonna show their veteran presence and value, not necessarily by
what they do in the running game, but by what

(47:49):
they do in past protection. That's very important, and I
think that's what should be considered. Also, a lot of
the names you need to know. Listen in this big
time tilt for the NFC East Division title. The records
aren't as fancy, but it's a win. It's like these
guys gotta win in order to stay live for this
division as well. Right, Doc is very interesting with this
a c joint. Okay, he was missing some throws. His

(48:10):
wide receivers would dropping balls also, but he's once again
limited going into the practice week. It's not this is
not an injury that's gonna get better. He is going
to be dealing with this throughout. So if I'm the
Washington Redskins, I'm bounding Doc with that front seven. Zach Ertz,
we gotta find out more about those ribs. It is.
He's gonna be a true game time kind of decision
a true questionable with those ribs other people. You need

(48:33):
to know and remember we say this all the time.
You gotta see how it trends in tomorrow's practice report
and the latest Beat reports on Saturday as well. Right,
Mark Andrews didn't practice with an ankle, They may hold
him out. Right, Baltimore may hold him out. Be sure
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