Double Coverage: Trade Breakdowns, Player Evaluations, and Chat Q&A (Ep. 249)

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back, everybody. It's the Fantasy Pros Dynasty Fantasy Football Podcast.
I'm your host, Scott Fogman. I'm joined as always by
Pat Fitzmorris. Follow him on the Twitter at fits underscore
ff And today we are live on the discord with
a couple of listeners in here with us to ask
us some questions about some dynasty fantasy football FITSI my

(00:24):
team has now signed Aaron Rodgers. It's official. He is
on my team. And I also read today that Tomlin
traded George Pickens because he didn't think Pickens and Rogers
would mesh well together, which you know how I feel
about that. Not very happy about that trade. So how
is the offseason or the you know, the pre camp

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season treating you, my friend?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
It's going well.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
I'm enjoying not having that much NFL news like you
check the you know, wrote a world wrote a wire
all the news aggregators Fantasy pros of course, and you
know it's stuff about EFT and Chisholm, who we're gonna
answer a question about in a minute, popping in Mini

(01:11):
caamp for the Patriots. So yeah, it's the dead season
that's gonna last a couple more weeks and then we're underway.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Man, it's thanks. Are gonna get hot and heavy soon.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Best shape of their life, right, that's a big one exactly.
This guy looks more explosive. It's beat writer, playing time speculation.
So there is information coming at you. It's not overwhelming,
but there is some stuff going on. So let's get
into this. We're gonna start today by talking about or

(01:44):
with the questions in the chat before we get to
some of the hands raised here. We're gonna start with
our guy, Corey forty two. He asked, is it too
early to give up on Malachi Corley? Debating picking up
Jalen Hyatt or Efton Chisholm. Based on recent buzz, this
is full people, So this is your Chisholm question. Malachai Corley,
Jalen Hyatt, Afton Chisholm. This is a nice deep one

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to start on. Man, who do you like out of
that group?

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Out of those three? I think I'd stick with Corley
one more year. It just didn't work out last year.
But I wonder if that was in Aaron Rodgers thing,
because if you cannot run precise routes, Aaron Rodgers is
just gonna hate you as a wide receiver, and I
saw that in Green Bay for a long time. And
that was the one part of Corley's game that we

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knew was not refined terrific with the ball in his hands,
but that dude needed a lot of work on his
technique route running.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
He just was not going to work with Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
So I would say, wait one more year, but you know,
if he doesn't pop sometime in the first half even
twenty twenty five, I would say, ditchum.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
The only thing is, like, it's a pretty thin depth chart,
right bugs. I mean after Garret Wells, like there is
room for him to if he has improved in the
offseason and is ready to come into camp and impress,
like not out of the question, that he could make
at least a little bit of noise in year two.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, the buzz right now is Josh Reynolds is the
clear number two. Right, That is what we have heard
from beat writers as well. But Malachai Corley is young
and talented and hasn't really gotten a fair shape quite yet, right,
Like Aaron Rodgers was just bad last year. They fired
that all coaching staff, run a whole new coaching staff,

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so I'm with you. I would say all of these guys, Corley, Chisholm,
and Jalen Hyatt, these are the guys even in a
deeper type of league. They're the ones that you drop
week one after somebody pops off, right, Like you're kind
of in that group. Hopefully it's one of these guys
that would be nice if you had him before the
season or in a deep league. But yeah, these are
all guys that are kind of cannon fodder if someone

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pops up in a good situation or after week one
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
I just I don't know what Hyatt like.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Maybe maybe you know, Chisholm comes out of nowhere and
is the next west.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Well last out of this group like chishomb I think
so makes him two to me behind Corley.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, Hyatt's just a guy, you know, maybe pops and
has a couple like long catches, but like you're never
going to be able to start him with any degree
of reliability, Like at least you know what the upside
is with Corley. If Corley can get his act together,
the upside is like Deebo Samuel, that is his game, right,
Just hit him the ball and let him rampage through defenses,

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like he's really good with the ball in his hands.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I mean, I think he's
clearly the most talented out of this group.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Next and by the way, that's I just want to
make clear that I think there's like a five percent
to ten percent chance he does get to Debo territory. Yeah,
not saying that he is the next Debo. Just want
to be clear on that, but like, if things go perfectly,
that's what he could be.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
I would say all of them are probably, you know,
five percent to actually make an impact on your team, right,
Jaoza says thoughts on Tank Bigsby for Dynasty, hold or trade?
What are your thoughts on Bigsby?

Speaker 3 (05:16):
FITZI And he was objectively good as a runner last year.
I think he was my top top six or something
like that. And yards after contact per carry, rushing yards
over expected, I want to say he was top ten.
He was good and he is kind of a different
skill set than all these other dudes in the backfield

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Etn Bashal Tuton leaquint Allen, Like this is the guy
who can actually make yardage between the tackles. The only
thing is Dynasty is almost always PPR and Tank Bigsby
is a complete zero in the passing game, so the
ceiling is very limited. The thing is, it's like, is
his value high to sell high? Because right he's got

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all this competition in the backfield.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
I mean, I guess you're just holding for now.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
That's exactly what I say, because the value is value
might be too low right right now, but it's definitely
not too high. So for me, that means you hold
unless you get some offer that you're like, wow, I
can't believe I'm being offered this for Tank Bigsby. Like,
unless that is the thought process that you have, then
you definitely want to hold on to Bigsby in my opinion.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
I mean, if if someone offered you a twenty twenty
six second for him bogs would you take it?

Speaker 1 (06:36):
I would say that's fair, you know, would I take it?

Speaker 2 (06:42):
I take that?

Speaker 1 (06:44):
I think I initially I would take it because, like
you said, you know, there's three guys in that backfield. Now,
it's Etn, it's Tutin, and it's Bigsby. Well, Etn has
the buzz. Tuton is the guy that was hand selected
by the new regime, but Bigsby led them in carries
and yards last season, so I don't know. I think

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I think Etn is the most talented still, So I
think if I'm getting a second, I would trade I
would trade Bigsby for that.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
I would too A third, no, a second, yes, no
hopeful laquin Allen Boggs.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Pass catcher.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, la Quinn Allen might cost one of these guys
their job, right or awsome to get traded. So yeah,
I laquin Allen is a thing, and they drafted him.
They spent a pick on him, so you know, uh,
he's not a zero, He's not a nothing burger. You know,
he's not like a UDFA. But yeah, he's I would

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say it's gonna be tough for him to make the team.
So we'll see. Darth nugg I like this trade. Would
you trade either a Mecca Buka, Zavier Worthy or Roma
dunes A for Quinn Schewn Judkins. Thoughts on that one?

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Oh boy?

Speaker 1 (08:01):
I mean, like you wouldn't trade out of that group
for quinch On Judkins.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
I mean it's a great question.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
I think all these guys have very very similar value.
That's where I'm and Dynasty and our trade value chart
kind of reflects that. I think we've got a Buka
at fifty three, Worthy at fifty two.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
I'm sorry, who oh, and O'doonsday.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
At fifty four, and we've got Judkins' highest of those
guys at I believe fifty five.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, but like I mean, I.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Think the value is all the same. I I mean,
I think I had Aggbuka and Judkins right next to
each other in my overall dynasty.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Are your rankings?

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Maybe I can't remember if I actually had Judkins higher,
org Buka higher, I had.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
At Judkins higher.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, I mean I'm all in the same neighborhood, right,
Like I don't. I I think I don't personally want
to sell on Roma Donsay quite yet. Uh, but that's it.
Like the I think any other trade would be fair
if you have a strong wide receiver room. These are
like your third options and you need a running back.

(09:25):
I think it's fair for kind of any of them.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Would you rank the three receivers.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
O Donsay, Worthy, Egbuka Mm hmm?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Interesting?

Speaker 1 (09:39):
What do you think? How how would you do it?

Speaker 3 (09:42):
I think, oh, man un, let's go Worthy, Egbuka, O Doonsay, Okay.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
I mean Worthy, I have Ada at the top of
you him at the bottom.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, I'm just like, I'm just scared. What if he
is what we thought, Yeah it was going to be
after last.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Season, but like, I still think it's unlikely that he flops.
It's just kind of alarming that, you know, for a
top ten pick to have a really non impactful season
as a rookie.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
I mean, Bogs, I did.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
Not realize that Worthy his last eight games of the
season playoffs included, he had fifty catches. Yeah, so he
was went through this basically on one hundred catch plus pace.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
So for the last half of the season.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Debro and I and Seth Wolcock hosted it Just an
insane the Insane Upside Show, and I did the projection
of those last six weeks, like the three playoff weeks
and the three weeks leading into the playoffs were Worthy
and the numbers look like you know, peak Tyreek Hill,
Like that's what worthyes numbers were, which is you know,

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no Rice, no Marquise Brown, Travis Kelcey was having a
down year like Puchecko wasn't there. There's all these that's
five thousand cuts you can make for Worthy and why
he's not like, you know, considered this crazy upside guy.
But it's in there, right, Like if the skill set
is close to Tyreek Hill, it's in there. So yeah,
I mean, but all these guys have free will.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
I agree, And I will say with these wide receivers
like fat group of three, if you know, when I
wake up tomorrow, I might feel differently about how I
would order them.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
They're that close.

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we still got a couple more questions in the chat, right.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah, let's run through these real quick.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
What is the next one? What kind of value would
you be willing to offer for Chris o'lave in a
ten team PPR Dynasty league? He would be my wide
receiver four or five behind Marv or she, Rice London
and Pooka. This is a great question. This is from ruckfec.
This is a great question here, FITZI, because I struggle

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with where to put Crystal Olave. The talent is still there,
but lots of concussions. Where do you have Olave? Just overall?

Speaker 2 (13:09):
I have him, but let's say a wile Oh okay,
I have him.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Sorry, I'm just looking for him in my ranking wide
receiver thirty four, I've.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Got him twenty eight. I have him at thirty two.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yeah, so we're pretty we're pretty close.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
I believe in the talent, but obviously concerns are that
the Saints are nowhere with the quarterback position, and we've
got this pretty alarming concussion history after he had two
last year, and he's had others before at least one other.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
I like him, but our value on him in the
dynasty trade value chart is I believe forty three.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
That puts him.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Let me give you some other forty threes. Oh wait, sorry, bogs,
it's forty six.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Other guys who are forty six.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
We have no forty six is but old running backs
Derrick Henry, Derrick Henry, Christian McCaffrey. I mean, if you're
in win now mode, you obviously want those guys.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Caleb Johnson is forty eight. I agree.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
I think I'd rather have all of those running backs
other receivers in the same ballpark, although I don't think
he'd be looking for a receiver like Terry McLaurin and
Jerry Judy and uh tight end in single tight end,
Tyler Warren is the exact same value in a vacuum bogs,

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Tyler Warren or Chris olave.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Man.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
I think it's probably still a lavae for me. That's
oh Warren, I.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Think that's a good value for us.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, I have so I have a love a fifty
a Warren at seventy three. So about around different from
each other because I look at this group that I
have alive with, like there's still so much meat on
the bone over a guy like you know, Mike Evans
in his career, but the concussions are so concerning. Maybe

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I need to make him a little bit lower. Even
though I'm higher, I'm lower than ECR. I feel like
maybe when push hit hits shove, I might not take
him above some of those guys. So maybe I need
to be a little bit. So I guess super Backs
question like, what are you giving up for him? What
about let's go back to that second round.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Pick six, second rounder? Oh, I want a lave you
want to I would rather have a yeah?

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think that's fair. I think
that's kind of a fair deal. So I think right
now I want to love it because this class doesn't
look great. But you know, after the college football season,
I might want that second round pick. So we'll see.
Let's see what's in the next question. You're twelve.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
We missed one from Baunting quick one from Bunting. Yes,
he just asked about like beat writers. Which beat writers
do you think are most reliable? Specific beat writers you
trust more than the others. I mean, like, I've got
a few of my favorites. Yeah, I think are just
like I trust anything they report.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah, well, I'll say this, like iru, I trust a
lot of beat writers reports, specifically the people that have
been around and made themselves trustworthy and been around the
team for a long time, like and they know kind
of the ins and outs. They've had a long time
to build a rapport with people in the building and
that kind of stuff. I don't really respect any of
their opinions on playing time, you know. Yeah, I think

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all the speculations are kind of wild, and even coaches
that are in the building doing the work with the
players don't know sometimes, So I don't know. I don't
think So there's no one that I.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
I mean, there are some good ones though, like Jordan
Rod Reagan the Rams is awesome, Jordan Renan for the Giants,
Jeff McLain for the Eagles is really good. Off the
top of my head, I trust my guy, my buddy
Kevin Fishbaine for the Bears. I'm trying to think of
who Ben Baby, who used to be Chargers now he's Bengals.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
He's really good the Niners for my oko.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah, and he is a very nice guy. I've talked
to Mike on several occasions. He is a great dude,
and he is very dialed in. And uh, Mike.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Reaes of the Patriots also very good.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah, both of the like Amoson Hensley and and Jeff's
rebec for the Ravens are both really good.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah, a lot a lot of uh good ones to choose.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Uh like so, but he's more he's like that's like
a separate and kind of independent thing. But uh yeah,
so not really. You know, there are guys that I like,
I trust the news from a lot of them. But
when they start saying like, oh, I think this guy
is going to be the number two, or I think
this guy is You're gonna see a ton of carries.

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You know. We've seen all kinds of talk from Jets
reporters about how the backfield's going to work, and I
don't think any of them.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Know, so you know someone is right, someone is talking
about like Michael Mayer could make a jump in twenty
twenty five, Like come on.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, you're gonna take stuff away from Bowers to give
it to mayor Okay, if you was a something, the.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Thing is twenty eight receptions would be a jump, is
the thing. So I guess technically, yeah, it could happen.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
So let's see Ma's ass. Twelve teen PPR Superflex offered
mahomes Worthy Pickens twenty six early third for Kyler, where
she Rice twenty six light likely late first, twenty seven
likely late first, So so he would be getting Worthy

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or I'm sorry mahomes Worthy Pickens and that twenty six
third for Kyler orshe Rice twenty six late first, twenty
seven late first. I'm pulling the trigger on that. I'm
getting mahomes Worthy Pickens and the third side. What are
you doing?

Speaker 2 (19:15):
I agree?

Speaker 3 (19:16):
I agree, just like I'm not totally sure Kyler is
going to be a starter two years from now. I'm
less enthusiastic about Rashie Rice than some other people are,
coming off that major knee injury and with the emergence
of Xavier Worthy and as much as I love twenty
twenty seven first rounders. Yeah, I'm taking that mahomes Worthy
Pickens package, no question.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yeah, I know everyone's kind of down on mahomes but
you know, they make one adjustment to the offense and
there we go. So do we want to jump to
some callers now?

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, let's do that.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
And guys, for those of you who have asked questions recently, like,
we will try to get to you at the end
of the show. If not, you can always hit me
up in my AMA channel on Discord.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
All right, let's go. We've got Tim is up first, Tim,
What do you got my friend?

Speaker 6 (20:10):
Okay, I just sent my roster and the scoring in
on my twelve team super flex three running back, three
wide receiver. The team is awful. We're working on a rebuild.
I have the one O one.

Speaker 7 (20:27):
I did not receive anything great when trying to make
some trades like Justin Fields and Tony Pollard, was I
think the best offer that I got?

Speaker 8 (20:39):
Do I just take gent there and start trying to
rebuild the running back room. I have one O two
or one O one two, one and four on one
this year and an extra twenty six first Obviously you
can see my quarterbacks are a disaster. Also my Tate
cam Ward since the running back might not be any

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good by the time I'm good. Just what are your
thoughts and if there's any pieces you think I could
try to maneuver for any other picks, that would be great.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, this this roster's brutal. Uh we're looking at it here, Fitzie,
it's uh, it's a rebuild.

Speaker 9 (21:17):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Ash to mention there, I think you have to take
Genty with the number one pick. And you take Gent
not because you know he's the best player. You take
him because you can trade him for better than cam Ward. Right,
So Genty you take just to kind of hold him
hostage and then make someone pay you for him if

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they're gonna if these are the crappy offers that you're getting, Well,
it was justin fields and a bag of cheetos? Is
that what it was for the number one overall pick? Yeah?
Like Pollard? Yeah, like I like Pollard. But come on, man,
that is weak. That is weak, sauce.

Speaker 8 (21:53):
So so what would you guys be expecting for gent
in this kind of league where you start three running back?

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, that's the other thing with your with your lineup configurations.
I mean, that makes genty even more I would take
him regardless even if you had a conventional to start
two running back leagues, but with the three running back stipulation,
like that makes him even more valuable.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
He's one spot bo Nix is twenty and Gent is
twenty one in super flex ECR dynasty. So that's the
range you're looking at. You're looking at a low end
QB one, any QB two, and if you're getting a
QB two, it needs to be QB two. And you
know some draft pick or a you know, attack on

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someone that you can drop Keaton Mitchell for. And you
know what I mean, someone you drop like you have
Jalen Hyatt and Trey Palmer and guys like that at
the end of your roster. Guys, you can drop any
of these guys off your roster for maybe a couple
of them. So that's what I would do, is I
would grab Gent and then auction them off and if not,
you just stash him because you need three running backs anyway.

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So but he's just like he's the tip of the spear.
He's going to get you the most in a trade.
He's going to be the most valuable for your team.
So to me, it just has to be gent if
you're sitting at one one.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Yeah, and Tim, you're not going to win this year anyway,
it doesn't really matter, Like this is not the year
to fix the quarterback position with rookies, Like this is
a lovez QB class. Twenty twenty six and twenty twenty
seven look better for quarterbacks and you're going to be
well positioned.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
I mean, Jackson Dart might be there to a one.
Do you take him their bogs or would you just yeah,
like two to one?

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, there's so many running backs in this class you
can wait and take one. There's also a decent amount
of wide receivers and it's also kind of you know,
there's a decent amount of wide receiver which is also
a cliff drop. So yeah, I mean I would be
you know, I would take gent hope for Dart at
two a one. But if not, you know, take some

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shots on Will Howard or Quinn viewers at the back end.
You know what I mean, you should be You should
be throwing some decent darts with your rookie picks here, Tim.

Speaker 5 (24:06):
So okay, perfect, good? One more question, Yeah, just trying
to make myself feel better a twelve team dynasty or
DeBie startup? Was it a dumb idea to take brock
Bowers over Justin Jefferson in a point seventy five uh,
tight end premium?

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Well, what do you think fits?

Speaker 6 (24:28):
I mean?

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Is that is that is point seventy five enough to
push Bowers like one overall there for what it's worth.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Like in a you know, one one point five, So
this I guess would be one point seven five one
point five like it it boosts boosted brock Bowers value
by about twenty one percent last year that the tight
end premium would. So you know this is another basically
that would boost Powers value by about thirty percent. And

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does you know one hundred and thirty percent of brock
Bowers equal Justin Jefferson.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Like, I'm cool with it, Like, I don't think it's
a mistake.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Yeah, he's at least in the tier of the uprection.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah it's debatable.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Yeah, it's debatable, Like I can, I can see the
case either way, But I don't think it was a mistake.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
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next tier is Blocke. What's up, Blake? What is going on?
My friend? How you been?

Speaker 2 (25:55):
I'm good man?

Speaker 10 (25:56):
How are you guys doing today?

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Doing good? What do you got for Uanks?

Speaker 10 (26:00):
I have a two part question for you. I had
a Dynasty startup and I made some trades afterwards. I
ended up with both I'm on Raw and Jamison Williams
on my team the starting receivers. So the first part
of that question is is are you okay having both
of those guys or do you want to diversify? And
then I do have a trade offer. I was offered

(26:22):
Kooka and my choice of Drake may or bow Nicks
for Patrick Mahomes and I'm on Ross Saint Brown. So
just curious if you're cool with keeping both or you know,
if you want to take that trade regardless.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
All right, Fitzy, you start here. Let's start with the
guys on the same team. Question first, Is this something
that you care about? There is strategy to it, obviously,
Like you know, they're not both going to go off
every week. You know, sometimes it's more and bus and
they have the same bye week, which can be tough.
So there are reasons to not do this. Is that

(26:58):
reason enough to not want to do this with talented players?

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah, I mean it limits your weekly upside just having
the two guys. It's it's rare for you know, there
might be a couple of games where they both go off,
but often it's going to be sort of one, you know,
stealing targets, catches yardage from the other the other thing. Like,
I don't know if I want both Detroit receivers, considering

(27:25):
they just lost Ben Johnson.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
You know, they've been up five in.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
Offensive scoring point total the last two years and might
not be this year. Jared Goff coming off his career
I think career high in touchdown passes, certainly a touchdown rate,
So like it just seems like maybe a good idea
to diversify, and I personally like the Drake May and

(27:55):
Puka or.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
I was at from a home Saint Brown.

Speaker 11 (28:02):
Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 10 (28:03):
Figured the receivers are pretty close, the quarterbacks are close ish,
I guess like I feel like Mahomes is pretty much
going ahead of May because you know what he is.
But at the same time, if he stays what he's doing,
I think May will be valued higher in the next
couple of years.

Speaker 12 (28:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
The only thing if you're titled ready this year and
you probably don't want to make that deal.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yeah, yeah, I would say if you're title ready, like
if your team is ready to hang a banner, get
to the ship. I would rather move Jamison than a Manra.
So the trade is fine. I think it's it's even
either way. Like you said, I think there's more upside
on what you're getting back than what you have. But

(28:45):
there's a really high floor on my home sit in
Saint Brown. So you know, uh right, if you're going
to stick and try to move Williams. But if you're
kind of building with the most of the rest of
your roster, then I would take that trade. It's fair.

Speaker 10 (29:01):
No, I feel like I'm competing.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
I just moved.

Speaker 10 (29:04):
I moved aj Brown to get both Jamison and James Cook,
so I would have a solidified RB two spot. So like,
I feel like I have a top three roster going
into this right now as it is.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah, stick, then I think I would ye here, maybe
try to, you know, just find someone in the same
neighborhood in value in terms of ECR and the trade
value chart and all that with Jamison that has a
different by week, you know what I mean, someone you
like and you can reach down or up and add

(29:34):
or add something to the trade from their side or
add something on your side to make it work. So
I would rather do that, all right.

Speaker 13 (29:43):
Appreciate the insight boys, Thank you, you got it.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Blake, Appreciate you. Let's see who do we got next year?
We have k Lest? What's up k Lest? How we
do with my friend Yoh? What's up?

Speaker 14 (29:53):
Guys?

Speaker 1 (29:54):
What is that last?

Speaker 3 (29:55):
I know he's doing great because he just got a
scott Fishbowl invitation.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Nice for this year.

Speaker 15 (30:03):
Hey, So, speaking of contending teams and championship caliber teams,
I am not one of those. I threw this my
team and the chads. It's that sleeper screenshots apologies, but
I feel like I'm probably another year or two out.
I had a bunch of rookie picks this year, so

(30:25):
I got a bunch, you know, of a good rookies.
I got Gentee. Oh who else did I get? Yeah,
Neil Giddon's, Trey Harris, Luther Burden, Ferguson and Arroyo and
Ristrepo in the taxi. But I'm just wondering because I'm

(30:49):
still it looks like I'm still a couple of years
away from contending. I'm wondering who I can try to
jettison to get some more picks to keep me kind
of towards the front end of the draft next year.
I was thinking Warren and Worthy, but after hearing FITZI
talked about Worthy, I'm thinking maybe he might might want
to be more of a hold.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah. I like Worthy too, but I'm completely biased. I
think there are some there's some names here that could
boom er bust this year. What do you think about
moving a guy like Warren or even you know, we
were talking about it before, o Doonza, Would this be
your last chance to move odoonsay? If he's just kind

(31:29):
of kind of be not what we expected FITZI and
would you want to at this point or is the
value just not there with him?

Speaker 2 (31:37):
I mean, I'm a little scared that maybe he doesn't fire,
but I don't know.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
I so what if he what if he does go
great improvement, the offense looks a lot better, and then
maybe like you know, they're like, Okay, we're gonna we're
gonna ditch DJ Moore and basically make way for a
Duneesay to be the number one and Burden to be
like the support guy or vice versa.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, that's the that's the thing.

Speaker 15 (32:08):
I kind of believe in Dunsay too. But he might
be right though. If he's If he's not it, this
would be the last chance to sell probably.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Think so I wouldn't mind it, but yeah, to sell,
I think he's a obvious guy.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Obvious guys.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
You don't want to sell. You don't see it's too young.
You don't want to sell. You're all young, right, Yeah,
you don't want to sell Stroud or Nico or Worthy, Right.

Speaker 15 (32:32):
So I was wondering maybe one of the quarterbacks, Like
I don't know, with Stroud and Lawrence, I feel like
they're kind of the same guy.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, no way, I want to trade Lawrence now because
I feel like he's finally going to have a real
NFL offensive scheme for the first time in his career. Right, Like,
it's been Urban Meyer and Doug Peterson, and I didn't
really like what Doug Peterson was doing. So I don't

(32:59):
want to trade Laurence, but he would. I would rather
trade him than Stroud, right fits.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Yeah, but it's just it's it's gonna be hard, k
less to find answers at the quarterback position. Like let's
say you get a lot of these young guys pop
in this year and you realize, like, hey, I could
be a contender in twenty twenty six, but then you've
got one quarter You've got Stroud and what you know what.

Speaker 15 (33:22):
Maybe just stay the course When I did the startup,
I mean, this league's only a couple of years old,
you know, I picked those two guys and thinking I
had two good young quarterbacks. Maybe I just stay the
course and see how it plays out.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah, yeah, I mean this is you know, Ray Davis.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
You know, the starting lineup is close, the bench is rough,
but yeah, you know you'll get there.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Yeah, you know, like, uh, it's like in a Texas
hold them thing. I think you're I feel like you're
you know, after the flop you're kind of looking at
an open ended straight draw.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Here in the regular season, it's going to be like
the turn of the river.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
And I think there's a really good chance that after
this year you're gonna make some sort of hand out
of this, right.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Sounds good?

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Thank you guy, you got a k lest appreciate your
bet friend, you bet k lest out man. Yeah, that
was that was a great analogy fits. I like the
hold them one.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Thank you, Citur.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
What's up? How are we doing?

Speaker 16 (34:21):
Man?

Speaker 4 (34:22):
Every every freaking time I join, I do that.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
One day, one day, I'll learn one day.

Speaker 14 (34:28):
Yeah, how are you guys doing?

Speaker 1 (34:29):
We're doing great? How are you not bad?

Speaker 5 (34:32):
Not bad?

Speaker 4 (34:32):
I you know, I made this trade uh the other day,
and I sent it to FITZI and his uh you know,
his ama, and I was nervous making it. It was
kind of one of those ones where the guy was like, hey,
we got to do this now, or you know, I'm
taking off the board. And so I traded Drake Maybuka

(34:55):
probably a twenty twenty six late first and a third
for Jalen Hurts and on to Smith and Obviously it
was tough because you know, I listen to all your
guys stuff and I've been in here a bunch and
I was really high on may you know, but I
just felt like, you know, like Buka, you know, he
was like a great piece, but you know, everything kind

(35:16):
of said. He was just you know, he was gonna
be like a high floor kind of player. And even
when he landed with the Bucks, I was like, Okay,
so that's not good, you know, at least for the
near future. And then this guy offered me, he actually
offered me a few worse trades, and I got him
down to this and I just pulled I just pulled
the trigger and I was like after I was like,
you know one of those things where you hit it

(35:36):
and you're like not happy about it.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Oh yeah, but that's just every trade should work, is
you got you squirm a little, you know what I mean? Yeah,
besides that should have to do that, And now give
it to me one more time. You got back to
yeah hurt.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Yeah, I got back to Philly Combo.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
What do you give away?

Speaker 2 (35:54):
I gave away.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
Drake may A, Mecca Buka probably a late twenty twenty
six first and third from twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yeah, I like this trade for you. It is a
lot to give up, and maybe in three years it's
not worth it. But if you win the title twice,
who cares? Right, Like, if you win it once, who cares?
You made the money for the entry fee for those
next couple seasons. So yeah, I just you know, Barkley

(36:24):
just had over four hundred touches, and there's a really
bad history with all the running backs that get that
many touches. They may have to rely on Jalen Hurts
a little bit more. Dvante Smith looks so good every
single year, one of the higher floor players in the league.
I like this trade for you, especially if the rest
of your roster is really good. What were your thoughts, fits,
I'm curious to know what your initial thoughts were.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Correcked me if I'm wrong, see Terry, But I think
I said that maybe it was a little too much
to give up the Hurst.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
You said you couldn't give me the stamp of approval.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Yeah, I could not give the stamp the approval.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
I thought maybe, like if you took I would have
liked it more if you would have, like I don't know,
taken the first rounder off the table, made it a
second instead or something like that, and like, no question,
it makes you a better team for twenty twenty five,
Like it improves you for this year, no doubt about that.
But just an overall value, you know. And I'm maybe

(37:23):
I'm just like irrationally high on on Drake May.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
No, I like.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Gukatu, although I also, uh, I don't know, I think
the world of Davante Smith too.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
That he's calling you a hurt painter.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
I know, I like I.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Have, uh you know, I've come around on him, but
I'm just I've always worried what happens if he doesn't
score double digit rushing touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
That's my concerned exactly, apparently not I don't.

Speaker 17 (37:57):
Have to worry about the Toushbush being man anymore, right right,
Like well the passing stats ever booy him enough, but
like he just keeps scoring on these rushing touchdowns and.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
He's great at it. So uh yeah, like again not
a huge beef with it, but you know, yes I
prefer the other side, just because I'm such a May fan.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
Just for reference, where the guy started with it was, uh,
you know, that same deal. But two first to twenty
six and twenty seven first, okay, and I have two
twenty six firsts and the others from another guy who
teams shouldn't be as good as mine, and he wanted
that one originally, and then I got it to mind
because I'm hoping to, you know, outperform that guy. So
that's why I got it to where the final product.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Was, Yeah, at least this is in the right ballpark
for sure.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
Awesome, Awesome, thanks guys.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Now I feel a little bit better. Of course, of
course you got it and Fitzy, my initial thought process
was maybe it's a little bit too high, but you know,
there's a lot of that needs to hit on the
other side. But her and Davante have ourit, so you're
getting improved.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
And it's like no question and if Ce Tourrey is
going for it this year, makes this team better for
twenty twenty five.

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we got hoki is uh what is going on? Hokey, hokey, hoky? Hey,
I guess what's going on?

Speaker 18 (39:51):
All right?

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Coming down to.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Rash tom here.

Speaker 12 (39:56):
So July, so drop my roster in the chant. I
need to cut cut what I have here down to fourteen.
So I need to drop three more players. And I've
flagged and read the two I think I definitely drop.
And then I'm back to the same debate between Sam
Donald or Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Okay, so this is non super flex, right, you only
need one QB. So he's got the kicker, Jesse Bates. Yes, uh,
you dump him. And then it's between Friar Moot and
Rashid Shaheed. It's Shaheed who you have highlighted Friar Muth
one of those two guys. I think it's fine. Then
it's one of the quarterbacks because you don't need three

(40:37):
since it's only one. You have Bonux as your starter
between Richardson and Donald.

Speaker 12 (40:43):
Also have Prescott too, you so.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yeah, so I guess there is the option to drop
Donald and Richardson and keep one of the other guys.

Speaker 12 (40:54):
But anyway, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Yeah, FITZI, what do you think here? Because my my
thought is you have Nixt, you have Prescott, play the upside,
and keep Richardson and dump Darnold. That is absolutely no question,
all right, no question. That's what I've been thinking. I've
been trying to move Donald.

Speaker 12 (41:12):
I think I thought you guys lost about this before,
but I can't the best offer of Garden's gotten so
far as a six round pick, and maybe I should
just take at least I get something for him.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Yeah, I mean, like I'm still holding out hope for Richard.
It was crazy that his average intended depth of target
last year was like twelve point five yards or something crazy,
Like he was only throwing deep last year, so obviously,
like even if you're throwing that deep, you should not

(41:41):
have a completion percentage under fifty percent. But like that
offense sucked last year. I don't know what Shane Steichen
was doing, Like no quarterback can consistently complete passes when
you're throwing that deep on average now, like two was
average depth of target last year was like five point seven.

(42:03):
Most quarterbacks are like at eight. I mean, Richardson was
at twelve something like. That's just insane.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
I mean, this is still a dude who granted it
was a small sample size his rookie year because he
got knocked out early in the season with an injury,
but he was scoring more fantasy points per snap on
average that year as a rookie than Josh Allen. I
was driven by, like I think he had what four
touchdown runs in four games or whatever, but like, this

(42:32):
dude is capable of big, big things as a runner.
You might as well just sit on him because you
got two quarterbacks who are going to play.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Yeah, take that up.

Speaker 12 (42:42):
I've been I've been guilty over the years of hanging on,
hanging on to guys too long, yea. So I just
want to make sure I'm not making that mistake again
here with Richardson. But that's kind of where I am too.
I mean, I guess what got me rethinking it again
was the news the other day that he's his shoulder
was given in trouble. But I saw something today that
that he should be good for training camp.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
So yeah, and you don't need him to you don't
need him to play.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Plus we saw the upside with Darnold last year pretty good.
But you know it's not it's not the Richard.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
He came crashing down at the end of the season.
So thank you, Hoky. He's a good question. But yeah,
I mean, if that's the case, if it's if the
guy isn't as my starter or my immediate backup, I
play upside with all of those guys. So barely.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
By the way, before he left, I.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
Wass did you see who? Uh Hoki's Virginia Tech. Who
they're going to be opening with this year in August
thirty first?

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Who is it?

Speaker 2 (43:41):
South Carolina and Leonora Sellers.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Oh dude, Leonora's Sellers. That is That's who I want.
That's who I want to stee.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
It's going to be a first round or in next
year's That's that's right. So yeah, that's gonna be a
fun game, Hoky.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
And uh, you know, just prepared for the possibility of
starting er and to one.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
If you like Cam Newton, you gonna love Leonoras Sellers.
That's all I'm saying, sir, Jab, what is up my man?
What's going on? How you doing? Jab? Jab you with us?
We can't hear you. We see your roster bummer jab

(44:21):
damn all right? So jab posted in the chat here. Hey, fellas,
this offseason has been amazing for my team. I'm posting
all the trades I made and my roster decided to
trade up to the one point oh three after the
one point six. Plan is to get t mac one
O three and two O four. I am hoping Scattaboo
or Trey Harris are there. If they're not, who should

(44:42):
I be looking at? Also eventually? So let's do that first.
So looking at his team, man, he's listed a bunch
of trades here that he's moved.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Around, says he thinks he's got the mic fixed. Want
to try jab? Raise your hand?

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Oh okay, yeah yeah, raise your hand again. Jab, I'll
get you, pier. Let's see why is this not working?

Speaker 10 (45:05):
There?

Speaker 1 (45:05):
It goes? How about now? Still nothing? Jabryark twice? If
you're in Milwaukee? All right, So let's just start there.
So at two O four he's hoping Scataboo or Trey
Harris are there. If they're not, who, are you looking
at at two oh four, I.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Think one of them is gonna be there. If all right,
put it this way.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
In my rookie rankings I.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
Had, I just got to get this in front of me.
So Rookie Superflex rankings, two o four is sixteen overall,
I had Trey Harris sixteen and Scatabo seventeen. If for
both of those guys to be gone at two oh
four would mean that someone passed on the likes of

(45:54):
Luther Burden, Matthew Golden, Jackson Dart Tyler, Warren Loveland, Like
those are I guess the only five possibilities of like
freak followers to that range.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
I'm taking one of those guys.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
The only situation I think where FITZI would take his
guy Matthew Golden.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
So yeah, yeah, But you know, like if that's the
only way, if Trey Harris or and camp Scattabor are
both gone at that point, it's because one of those
guys fell Loveland, Warren Burden, Dart Golden.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
So I would take one of those guys.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Yeah, I'm with you. That's the same kind of group
that I have. If the tight ends fall, take one
of the tight ends as well. He says also, eventually
will have to cut down to twenty four players. Once
I make my two picks, I'll be at twenty nine.
So i'd have to cut five players at this time.
What five would you cut? So he's given us his

(46:50):
roster here and his roster. We've talked to jab a bunch.
He has done so much work on this roster over
so many seasons that is really good. They're gonna be
hard cuts to make here. The ones I see right
off the bat is Jermaine Burton can go, Keaton Mitchell
can go.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Frank Gord Junior.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Frank Gore Junior is gone. That's three after that. It's
kind of tough.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Uh So you got well, it's it's got to be
like Isaiah Davis.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Isiah Davis, Dean Johnson, Right.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
You rather keep No, I'm not. I'm not getting rid
of Mason.

Speaker 10 (47:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
I don't want to either. Maybe you rather the kicker
and figure out the kicker later, But it is Bucker.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
You rather keep Algier than Deontay Johnson. Yes, this is
the insurance policy he does that. Bijeon, I guess I
just okay.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
He's got Bejeon And I also think title Jeer getting
out of Atlanta could be something eventually, so we'll see,
all right, So.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
We totally agree on get rid of Frank or Junior
Keaton Mitchell, those two, Jermaine Burton, I agree get rid
of Burton.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
He was gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
I think he would have popped Deontay Johnson and Isaiah Davis.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Yeah, I mean, I don't want to cut Davis, but yeah,
he's probably He's probably the one.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
So what about He's got a whole on, He's got
two defenses, bogs.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
I mean, cut the defense, cut a kicker. I would
rather cut those guys in Isaiah Davis. So yes, cut it,
cut a defense, cut a kicker, do whatever there.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
So do you rather prefer Ravens versus Chiefs? Dee?

Speaker 1 (48:36):
I'd rather have the Ravens, but not by a lot.
So defense is just so you know, Chris Jones get
gets hurt and what is the the Chiefs defense? You
know what I mean, It's completely different point.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
So don't you don't you you cast out upon Leo'shane.
I love Les my favorite linebacker.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
By the way, I'm writing up the IDP draft guide
right now for the Fantasy prost drafts. I'm in the
throes of that.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Right.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Now, let's see, we got a couple more calls here, CFC,
what is up, my friend? How can we help?

Speaker 11 (49:15):
How's it going guys?

Speaker 1 (49:17):
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (49:17):
My man? CF Doing well?

Speaker 5 (49:21):
Cool?

Speaker 11 (49:21):
I just dropped my roster in the chat. But it's
a little bit more of a draft question. So I'm
working on a potential pick swap where I would give
away picks six and eight and I would get back
pick three and pick ten. I have a good sense
of how the draft is going to shake out already,
so putting names to pick that's basically tet and Caleb

(49:43):
is who I'm giving away, and I'd be getting back
Prayveon Anderson and a Buco. But he also wanted to
Basically he asked for Senate Bencinate on top, and I
like Senate, but I also plan to take Loveland at
pick eleven. So do you think it's too much to
add ben Sentate to that? Or should I counter with
like a twenty five to fourth or like a twenty

(50:04):
six third or something. Just wanting to get your thoughts
on that.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
I mean, squeeze, you know, if he's insisting on Senate
insists on a fourth back, you know what I mean,
So squeeze as much as you can. But I don't
think that I would let Senate hold the deal up.
What about you, FITZI?

Speaker 3 (50:22):
No, the other so the other guys and I don't know, Bogs,
what would you rather give up a fourth or Senate?

Speaker 1 (50:29):
I would rather have Senate. But I'm saying, is it
isn't the other guy putting Senate in the deal? CFC?
Am I getting it?

Speaker 12 (50:37):
No?

Speaker 3 (50:38):
He is asking for see CFC is getting three and ten,
giving up six and eight and either Senate or maybe
something else.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Yeah, so you're giving up Senate? Correct?

Speaker 13 (50:53):
Correct?

Speaker 11 (50:54):
Yeah? And I'm basically just yeah, I'm debating. If I'm
just being like too nitpicky about it just because I
liked last year, No.

Speaker 18 (51:01):
Not at all.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
I would say, I like, if he's insisting Senate goes
in this deal, you insist back that you know I
need a fourth, then yes, just give me a dart
throw if he wants in it back because I like him,
And if he says if he balks at that, I
don't know that I would let Senate hold the deal
up if that's the deal that I really want, would

(51:24):
you fits?

Speaker 3 (51:26):
No, I don't think I would, And just to be clear, CFC,
who would you intend to take at number three?

Speaker 11 (51:32):
I'd probably take Trevion Henderson just because I need a
running back and also have Drake May, so there's like
somewhat of a stack element there.

Speaker 13 (51:40):
I guess.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
I actually think that makes sense in this league because
I see you're only required to start two wide receivers,
but maybe there's a little less emphasis on wide receiver
and I can see the incentive to move up for
one of the really good running backs in this draft.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (51:56):
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. And I was thinking
the difference between bravy On and Kleb could overcome the
difference between Atlantic Buka because I also like a Buka,
So that was kind of where my head was at.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
H I'm on board with that.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
I think it's fair. I think it's very fair, right,
Like I think this was pretty fair exchange. It depends
on what you like, what you don't like all that.
So I and I like Sinate, but I think if
Sinnate was one hundred percent ready, they would not have
offered earth contract. So I just don't know what we
get out of him this year. I'm not gonna let
him hold up a deal I want to do, is
my point.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
So yeah, yeah, squeeze, and I understand the other guy.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Until the eagle craps you know what I mean? So
get that fourth back if you can, but don't let
it hold up if if you can't, I guess I
should say exactly.

Speaker 15 (52:41):
I thank I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Guys, you got it? Take it easy, bet? Yeah, all right,
A couple more here, raw brow, What is up, my friend?
How we doing? Hey?

Speaker 14 (52:52):
You guys?

Speaker 1 (52:52):
He we got you.

Speaker 14 (52:54):
Hey.

Speaker 16 (52:55):
First off, I want to say I'm a T shirt
right here on the West Coast. I can only tune
in during the summer, but I last summer I came
in on my startup and you two pushed Brock Bauers
and Jade Daniels, who I took pretty aggressively, and I
won my league in the first year.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
So thanks for that. Yeah awesome, Yeah fell good.

Speaker 16 (53:17):
But okay, So I'm in a bit of a weird situation.
This is somewhat similar that Detroit questioned.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
So I drafted.

Speaker 16 (53:26):
Chris Godwin and McMillan last year and then Godwin got hurt,
so pushing for the championship, I ended up trading for
Mike Evans, which worked out. I won the championship, but
now I have all three of them, and then the
I traded away some picks, so my first pick is
the two O two uh in a ten man and
I kind of know what people are going to do
in front of me, and Agbuca seems like best player

(53:47):
available where I'm drafting, So I'm in a very strange situation.
I do have an offer for Evans for a the
two to four and the three oh one one pending.
I haven't accepted that yet, but I've been sitting there.
So yeah, it's like a weird situation where I have
three and then the DPA is that that is at BUKA,

(54:10):
So I'm not really sure what to do.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Do you think what do you think you're objective? Is
this year? You're contender? This year? Do you think you're
more of a six and beyond?

Speaker 16 (54:21):
No, I'm definitely.

Speaker 14 (54:21):
Still a contender.

Speaker 16 (54:23):
I might. I'm bringing back my team pretty strong again.
The only reason I ended up with Evans was trading
because like Godwin injury. So I'm definitely like top three
teams in my league right now.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
I So, I mean, I'm not trading Mike Evans for
a two and a three. It's not for me, not
enough if you're contending. So we're sticking with Mike Evans
one hundred percent, no doubt. Uh if we're going to trade,
if we're going to trade him, you need more than
that back.

Speaker 6 (54:51):
So uh.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
I also, you know, look, if Agbuka is the best player,
he's highest on your board, he's the end of a
tier all that take him. You know. I I I
would rather like take a you know, bag of chips
back for Jayleen McMillan than skip out on the guy
I really want and reach down in the draft. So

(55:14):
that's kind of how I would go with it. So
to me, yes, this is a weird situation. Yes, I'm
trying to get out from under it. I'm trying to
maybe flip godwhen it offered Godwin to someone that is
in his range, you know what I mean, and just say, hey,
look I like Godwin. I also like your guy. I
think they're in the same area. I'm trying to fix
a bye week issue, you know what I mean. I

(55:35):
think people, I think that is more likely to get
your trade instead of like trying to be sneaky or whatever.
So you know, but I'm not making it. Nothing is
stopping me from taking Aguka, even having like the entire
Bucks receiving corps. It sucks, but I'll figure out something afterwards,
kind of like what the Bucks did when they took Agbuka.

(55:57):
You know what I mean. It's like, this is our
favorite player, he's the end of a team here. Will
take him, even though a wide receiver room is good
and figure out the rest later. I would do the
same thing for your team.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
I agree with Bogs on not taking the Evans deal,
which would make you worse for this year. I agree
with Bogs and not letting taking the best player available,
which looks like it is going to be a Buka.
But I do Robbra recommend divest thing like in some
way like you gotta uh, I would say, find some

(56:29):
other trade with Evans or Godwin, and I would probably
take a ham sandwich with mustard for Jalen McMillan.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Right, gotta have the mustard though, for sure, that's right.
Anything else brow so like.

Speaker 16 (56:47):
You, definitely so the other people in that range and
that Buka I have like Buka higher, but looking at
what's falling there is it's usually Burden or golden. I
think that the tight are usually gone who I think
I would take above him, But would you still take
Agbuka above those two?

Speaker 2 (57:05):
I think you're right to take Agbuca above those two.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
I mean, I have Golden ahead of him, but I understand,
I understand the side that doesn't like Matthew Golden. So
if to you there's a big difference, then you know,
then that's your board. You know what I mean? To me,
there isn't. I have Golden in ahead, and I have
them all kind of next to each other, Burden ahead,

(57:30):
write one spot behind him as well. I have them
all three in a row, so it goes Golden, Eggbuka
Burden for me at eight, nine, ten on my board,
So you know I have him in the same group
in terms of similar talent. But I understand Eggbuka being
the highest floor out of all those guys, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
Yeah, I've got Agbuka nine, I've got Burden thirteen, Golden fifteen.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
There you go, gotcha.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Thanks guys, really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
You got to Rob Brown easy, my friend, Uh, Chuck,
last one, Peter, what do you got for us? Chuck?

Speaker 15 (58:06):
All right, hopefully you can hear me.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
We got you, sir.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Cool.

Speaker 18 (58:10):
So I just paceded quite a few graphics in the
in the chat, but I'm in a good position.

Speaker 13 (58:16):
I took over an orphan a couple of years ago,
first dynasty team ever and got a little into it,
and you'll see I turned myself into the best team
in the league and most rankings you know on the
Fantasy Pro site, first TV, first tight end, first running back,
number one or maybe second running back loaded loaded, right, So.

Speaker 14 (58:40):
I literally started with Lances my best quarterback.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
I just want to say real quick, and your score
is one hundred the next highest score. I believe it's
a little blurry for me, but it's eighty eight, and
then seventy eighty eight yeah, then seventy one yeah, and
then fly Society and then trash. I mean it looks
like and then is raw. There's really good.

Speaker 14 (59:02):
Yeah, and I got I have five tony seven first,
oh wow.

Speaker 18 (59:06):
And it's the worst team in the league, the second
worst team in the league, the third worst team in
the league, the fifth worst, and the seventh worst based
upon the rankings.

Speaker 14 (59:16):
So the question is we only start eight and we'll
see I'm pretty deep everywhere.

Speaker 18 (59:25):
How much depth do you keep before I you know,
no one wants to trade with me anymore, as you
might guess. And so I basically I built this team
by winning every trade by a little bit and just
making like a crap ton of trades. So I just
winned everyone by a little bit and then start stacking them.

Speaker 13 (59:45):
But now I'm at the point I have to lose trades.

Speaker 18 (59:49):
And so like T Higgins is kind of like he's
my wide receiver four, and like DJ Moore, I cannot trade,
Like no one will trade for Dj Moore. I've been
trying to trade them in a package, et cetera. But
the start eight it's tough. So do I I'm going
for a championship this year? Do I just write it out?

Speaker 14 (01:00:09):
And I've got depth, So if interest and he's hit,
just don't worry about it. I got five twenty seven first,
Or would you.

Speaker 18 (01:00:17):
Know, try and you know, maybe trade Travis Hunter and
T Higgins and Jordan Edison to try to get Jefferson
or something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Yeah, that's the way you keep winning trades, right, is
you take all of this depth that you've built up
and now you trade for the premier players at each position.
It sucks if that guy gets hurt, right, because you're
trading this depth for him. But that's how you get
better at this point, after you've done these trades, is
now it's about trading my depth to some of these

(01:00:48):
bottom feeders for their absolute best player. So yeah, I
mean that that's the next step because everything else is done.
And I think I've already done that a couple of
times anyway, So.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Yeah, that's like, you know, just keep doing.

Speaker 14 (01:01:02):
Gibbs was a great trade. I traded for the one
point one and was so set on getting genty but
I got just a crazy offer of like three first round,
four first round picks, so I'm like, okay, So I
traded my one on one and I traded three of

(01:01:22):
the first rounds to get Gibbs and I kept to
twenty seven first you know, things like that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
So yeah, you're trade there. That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Hey, You're you're so loaded that I think trading partner
selection is going to be a key for you, because, uh,
with all the guys you have, they're going to be
some pretty sad looking rosters in your league, I would imagine,
and there are probably some lonely superstars on some of
those teams who you know, and I mean, like you
can just be honest about going to some of these teams, like, look,

(01:01:53):
my team is really stacked. I've you know, I've got
a ton of depth. I would happily make a three
for one with you and maybe even overpay a little
bit to get you know, you're lonely, justin Jefferson, who's
sitting on a team that clearly is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Not ready to win right now?

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Yeah, what's that mean?

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
You know what? I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Borghini in the trailer park right that. That's there's got
to be something with all of the talent on your
team that are like that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
So yeah, the Lambeau under the car port next to
the trailer.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
That's what it is is. Yeah, yeah, that's the exact one.
But yeah, I mean you've obviously done everything right here,
so I would say just just keep doing it. Yeah,
they're leary of trading with you, but then someone goes
and offers you for first round picks, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
So that's kind of yeah exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
Yeah, just I like, I like ending on the happy
note with Chuck's roster, but I'm also going to leave
jealous today.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
I don't have any rosters anything like this.

Speaker 14 (01:02:54):
Yeah, I got I got took over another orphan. I'm
up to fourteen first round picks.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Over the next so I gotta I gotta hire you
as my GM. Chuck.

Speaker 18 (01:03:05):
Yeah, there you go, all right, man.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Guy, Thank you, Chuck. Take it easy, my friends. Yeah,
I think that is uh it for us today. Remember
you can follow us on the Twitter at Bogman Sports
for myself at fits Underscore f f Fits. What do
you do to not do too much in this time?
Before we let everybody go, It's tinkering time, right, We're

(01:03:29):
ramping up. We're starting to get reports. People are focusing
their shift towards football a little bit more, a little
bit more every day. So what do you do to
to not do the on board I'm tinkering too much stuff?

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
Well, uh, do things with my wife, play golf, take
long walks with the dogs, like just yeah. Not not
to sit there and stare at my roster, do you know,
luckily of exactly, it's hard not to watch baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
It's way you can right right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
We're watching the baseball exactly. So that is it for us.
We will see you guys next week. Take it easy, everybody.

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