How Far Will Kyle Pitts Fall? | Dynasty Trade Block + Chat Q&A (Ep. 246) - FantasyPros Dynasty Football Podcast

Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello, everybody, Welcome into the Trade Block our monthly Dynasty
Discord show. I am Ryan Warmley, joyed as always by
Pat Fitzmore. It's this we are into June. How are
you doing, Buddy good?

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Seems like the season is barreling down on us, worm Like,
it's not going to be too long before we are
consuming training camp news, getting our first injuries. Unfortunately. Well
I suppose we've had a few OTA's already, but nothing major. Fortunately. Yeah,
it's you know, enjoy the off time while you can,
because the season is going to be here before you

(00:37):
know it.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
How much did you move down Kyle Pitts and your
rankings when you found out he had a foot issue
at OTAs today.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
I've been trying not to move him down, and I
hate to say it, but I'm like, I'm starting to
feel like I should be back in on Pits now
that everyone is off him and needs more. Cow Bell
is in our chat right now, saying love Pat's take
on Pitts. What's a good value to send for Pitts
as player ranges like wide receiver three and picks? All right,

(01:08):
we'll get to that in a second, cow Bell. But yeah,
like I think the dude's only twenty four, still one
of only three rookie tight ends ever to have a
thousand yard season, first since Mike Ditka sixty years earlier.
Then Brock Bauers did it last year, but I'm not
totally giving up on him. And maybe last year we

(01:28):
could make the excuse that it was his first year
in Zach Robinson's offense and that Kirk Cousins was pretty
washed as we saw. And I'm, you know, like Michael
Pennix Junior was a king maker for his pass catchers
at the University of Washington, So maybe there's hope for
Kyle Pitts yet worm And I know that's the eternal
optimist in me saying that, but you know, I'm prepared

(01:52):
for the scoring that's going to be heaped on me.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
For that viewpoint, we did a reeal on Instagram last
year that did very good numbers. It got like three
million views or something, and it was just a clip
from a show that the guy for the caption was
drafting Kyle Pitts this year, and the clip was the
guy saying, but this time it's different, and that was

(02:14):
the whole real and that was a season prior to
the what we just got last year, Like that was
a year ago, and people were already making jokes for
two years now. It feels like the jokes have been
coming in let alone, however, many years of the frustrations.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
So that's the crazy thing. But like we've you know,
he's twenty four, and we've seen John neu Smith just
had a year eight breakout, David Njoku had like a
year six or seven breakout a couple of years ago.
It's not it's not too late for Kyle Pitts's.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Let's start with the tight end, since we're talking about
Pitts already and we're kind of co in reverse order.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Just everybody knows.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
The way we usually handle this show is the first
thirty ish minutes or so are going to be Pat
and I running through the Dynasty Trade Value chart, which
updates in the first of every month. So that just
updated a couple of days ago for June, and we
actually have some fun additions that I'll get into in
a second to the chart this month.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
So I would highly encourage everybody to check that out. Again.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
It's the Fantasy Pro's Dynasty Trade Value chart gets updated
every single month, so about the first thirty minutes of
the show, we'll go through that and kind of our
reactions to some of the changes since the last time
we did this, and then the second half of the
show we will be answering all of your questions. It
can be questions where we bring you up onto our
discord stages.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
You can be live on.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
The show talking to us about some of your questions.
You can also feel for three to throw questions in
the chat. We will get through pretty much all of them.
We will go through as many as we possibly can
here in the course of the full hour. We usually
start with the quarterbacks, but yeah, let's mix it upisode
with the tight ends because we were talking about Kyle
Pitts already, and also because one of those fun new
editions is we have tight end premium values. We have

(03:52):
been getting people requesting this for a while now we
now have it, so of course under the quarterback section
we are he had kind of that super flex value.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Second column.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
This is going to look the same way on the
Dynasty page is kind of a second column going with
sort of the main quote unquote value, but this one
will say TEP that's of course tight end premium and
it will show how much more we are valuing these
players in said formats. So I do want to ask
brock Bauers. We don't need to talk about him being
first amongst the tight ends. That's obvious. This is my

(04:24):
fourth straight month. I'll tell you I don't think the
gap is wide enough between him and everybody else. But
what I really want to ask is in tight end premium,
how do you square his value compared to some of
the elite wide receivers and whatnot. His tight end premium
value is eighty two in our system. To put that
in context, that will be tied for third cdlam E

(04:45):
Molak neighbors are both tied at eighty two amongst the receivers,
behind only Chase and Jefferson, who are up in the
low nineties. If you look at running backs also, it's
higher than any of them. Bijon is the highest seventy five,
and of course it's higher than any quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
In one QB.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
It's right around like what would be considered something like
the twelfth or eleventh quarterback in superflex. So it is
an elite elite value we were putting on black Bowers
and tight end premium.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Unsurprisingly, the value bump that tight ends get from tight
end premium worm is typically around twenty percent because you
get that extra half point for your receptions. But like
it's it's not one hundred and fifty percent. It's not
that tight ends are one hundred and fifty percent more
valuable in tight end premium because they're also scoring points

(05:31):
in other ways from touchdowns, from yardage. So it's twenty
percent in most cases. And I think Bowers was even
above twenty percent last year because he had what one
hundred and twelve receptions, most by tight end since zach
Ertz at the single season record in twenty eighteen. So yeah,
like that bumps him up on our chart to eighty two,

(05:52):
which puts him like in a tight end premium league,
say it's a tight end premium superflex league. He's on
power with like bow Knicks and Jordan Love for value
there good like promising young quarterbacks. He's we have him
valued ahead of Jean Robinson and Jamier Gibbs in tight

(06:14):
end premium, like a twenty one year old's tight end
who with one of the worst quarterback situations in the
league was the runaway tight end one. And you know,
I feel like things are only going to get better
for Bowers from here, Like, we might just be scratching
the surface of what this dude could do. Not out

(06:35):
of the question. He gives us a fourteen hundred yard season,
a one hundred and twenty catch season. You know, certainly
the touchdown total could go up, especially with more competent quarterbacking.
So yeah, Like, I think we got it right with
the tight end premium value being pretty substantial here.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
I think, if anything, it's too low. Like I'm really
struggling to make the case for myself if I was
in a startup that was tight end premium, I'm struggling
to make the case for more than five even in
super flex, I'm saying for more than five names ahead
of him, like that elite trio of quarterbacks Josh Allen,
Lamar Jackson, Jay and Daniels.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
I think we'll go ahead of him rightfully, Jamar Chase.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
I would even hear the argument him versus Justin Jefferson,
Like I just I don't see any reason to think
what he did last year is illegitimate. I don't see
any reason to think it won't get better in a
better offense.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
Now.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
And if you told me that he was gonna have
Travis Kelcey's career. First of all, I wouldn't think that
was crazy. And second of all, I would say that
guy should be maybe the number one pick in a
tight end premium startup if you're getting Travis Kelcey at
twenty two years old. So I'm just really struggling, like again,
that elite trio of quarterbacks, Chase and maybe Jefferson. I

(07:50):
don't think anybody else I would even remotely consider ahead
of him in a startup, just just as a fun exercise. Again,
I know I don't need to make the case to
people what Black Bars is good, but I really think
that this is even arguably too low in that format.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, that's fair, And you know right now we have
his tight end premium value the same as Malik neighbors value,
And I agree with you. I would take powers over
Malik Nighbors in a startup, and if it was tight
end premium absolutely.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
His floor for me in a startup is sixth pick.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Like, there's no chance he's getting past six if I
if I'm in that league. That's just he's just that good.
Everybody already knows that. We obviously still have you know,
tre McBride ranked very highly. Laporta is tight end three,
Colson Loveland tight end four, Tyler Warren tight end five,
Kittle at six obviously that's due to the age. Hockinson
at seven. Then you start to get into kind of

(08:41):
your your favorite high upside guys. We have Craft at eight,
Mark Andrews at nine, and Joku ten, Kinkid eleven, Kyle
Pitts twelve. You could make I think cases for a
bunch of different orders once you get past the top
seven or so. Isaiah likely up at tighten thirteen. I
like quite a bit as well. I think that's a
very smart high upside play given the contracts that creation
of the two tight ends in Baltimore.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Does anybody else stand out to you?

Speaker 1 (09:04):
I mean, like I said, I definitely wanted to hit
on Bauers just because we have that tight end premium
value ranking now.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
But as far as kind of the order amongst.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
The tight ends, does anybody stand out to you as
a guy that is maybe too high or too low?

Speaker 2 (09:15):
TJ. Hockinson I think is too high, Like I've just
that's one and we're going to talk about this on
our regular Dynasty show this week. Like I don't really
understand his value of forty one. I just like Hockinson
is a good player, although it took him a little
while to pop. But you know, now he's starting to

(09:36):
get older, he's maybe a little past prime or moving
into that past prime territory. He's had a major, major
knee injury that cost him part of last season, came
back and you know, did okay, but didn't set the
world on fire. And he has to share targets with
Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison, and those targets are going
to be coming from a quarterback who's never started in

(09:58):
an NFL game. So we have his value being the
same as for instance, like it's just TJ. Howkinson's value
is higher than Luther Burdens on our chart, and I
would rather have Luther Burden seven days a week over TJ. Howkinson.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Let's wrap up the tight end conversation with a little
bit more of a chat on Pits because we did
get that question from cow Bell about kind of what
a good value would be to send for Pitts player ranges.
He threw out the possibility maybe like wide receiver three
and picks. If you look at his value in non
tight end premium, he's at a thirty one, which equates
to what would be the wide receiver fifty because Keon

(10:42):
Coleman's wide receiver forty nine value of thirty two. Calvin
Ridley is right after him at a value of twenty eight.
So it would be like outside of you know that
top a wide receiver four, you'd be into the wide
receiver five range. So that's a little bit lower than
kind of he was throwing out there. In tight end premium,
he'd be a bit hot. He'd be up near a
low end wide receiver three to a range would be

(11:04):
about equivalent to Trey Harris or Tyreek Hill to get
two end.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
So the age you know age curve there.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Does that sound right to you in terms of if
you were looking to make a trade, Yeah, premium versus
non premium, those are the types of names that you
think are reasonable to be trading for pits. Would you
want to maybe go lower and throw a pick in there?
Would you try and do a one for one trade
if you were trying to make that happen.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
If we were going to throw a pick out, just
trade a pick for Kyle Pitts. I think at a
second in twenty twenty six would be perfectly fair. We
actually have Pits ranked higher than in early twenty an
early second round pick in twenty twenty six. We have
the value for Pits being slightly higher than that. But
you know, if someone's really disgusted with Pits and has

(11:47):
been let down by them for a couple of years
running in dynasty, they might be willing to cash out
now and take that second rounder for him. And I'm sorry,
what were some of the other names you mentioned? Like,
his value is the same as what James Connor.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
In non tight end premium.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Amongst the receivers, it's guys like Calvin Ridley, Keon Coleman
where the two he'd be sandwiched between. Josh Downs is
near there, Courtland Sutton is near there, Jalen Knowle is
near there. Those are the guys that are closest to
him in non tight end premium. In tight end premium,
it'd be like Trey Harris, tyreek Hill, Jaden Higgins, Luther

(12:25):
Burden is just barely ahead of him. And then if
you're looking at the running back position, not aget non
tight end premium, it's like Connor, Basehall, Tutin Sharbonnet Scataboo,
and if you make it tight end premium, some of
those equivalents are Chuba Hubb, David Montgomery. It's like, you know,
running back twenty two, running back twenty one ish range,
if you're in a tight end premium league.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Yeah, I mean, it kind of depends on what your
objective is. But I think Pitts is a decent target
for a like a worthwhile risk for a team that's
trying to rebuild, and if he finally does hit, that
could kind of jump kickstart the rebuild, make it go
a little faster. So like to me, James Connor is
kind of a good trade because like a win now

(13:07):
team is going to be attracted to a player like
James Connor who could deliver like low end running back
one value this year, but probably does not have more
than like about you know, two more productive seasons left.
So I think that would be a pretty fair exchange.
And I think I think we mostly get it right
with some of these other I think people are so

(13:28):
down on Kyle Pitts that most of those names you
mentioned were Courtland, Sutton, Keyon Coleman, Calvin Ridley. Like I
think in most cases, people are going to go for
all those players over Kyle Pitts just because Kyle Pitt's
name is Mud in dynasty circles, in fantasy circles, redraft,
dynasty whatever.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
I have Pits in a dynasty league with Bowers, So
I'm like, I can easily trade Pits because I have
Bowers already at the position. But I feel like I'm
just selling low for no reason honestly, Like I don't
need the roster space. So I said, I feel like
I kind of just want to sit on him and
see if maybe we get a bounce back this year,
only twenty four years old, and then there's more value,

(14:08):
or have this really high end backup. I think I
want to be on the side of buying really really low, oh,
rather than selling on the cheap. Is kind of my
approach with him. I agreed at the moment, let's look
at some other positions here. That might be the longest
we've ever gone on the tight ends on this. On
this version of the show, we'll jump back up to quarterbacks.

(14:29):
Does anybody stand out to you here? I mean, obviously
the elite remains the elite. No value changed there, you know,
I think I really want to be living in this
range of this, you know, QB seven to QB fifteen ish,
I think is a real nice sweet spot. If I'm
going to start up, I kind of want to get
like three of those guys if I can, you know,
in a super flex format I'm talking about. You know,

(14:51):
guys like Justin Field still seem pretty low. There's obviously
a lot of downside, but clearly some short term upside
as long as he has a starting position. You know,
I'm looking at like Bryce Young I think is a
value down at QB twenty three. This is kind of
just me jumping around without like a real focus because
there just hasn't been that much movement. Does anybody stand
out to you that you think is really worth kidding on?

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, Fields is interesting. He did get a little bump
in last the last value change, but so I think
his rushing ability makes him a potential QB one this year.
The only problem is that like he's got to boost
the passing or he's going to not last as a
starter and you know, have zero value two years from now,

(15:34):
Like trying to calibrate that the immediate potential value versus
the potential huge loss of value and having an asset
wiped off your books in a couple of years because, like,
Fields didn't play horribly last year, but he knew he
wasn't good enough as a passer last year in Pittsburgh,

(15:54):
and when he got benched, he was like, yeah, I
deserve to be benched. Like what happens if we see
something similar in New York where they have this audition
in the twenty twenty five season and Fields doesn't give
them what they think they need in terms of his
passing Mike, They're gonna make a move at quarterback. And

(16:16):
I know Fields is on like a two year deal,
but they're just not gonna They're not committed to him
for two years. They're committed to him for this year
and that's about it. So he's a risky proposition. And
you know, we moved Dak Prescott up. I think part
of that was related to the George Pickens acquisition. Bumped
him up a little bit. And I noticed we bumped

(16:37):
up Bo Nicks, which I like, I'm starting to worm
to bow Knicks right now. We've got Jordan Love value
just a smidge higher than Nicks in both Super Flex
and one QB. And I'm not I'm not sure, if
that's right. Worm. I mean, like Nicks, Knicks had a
really convincing rookie season and it just kind of kept
getting better and better as the year went on. So

(17:00):
I do think there might be a little bit of
regression in year two, But long term, I like the outlook.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
I think it's appropriate that they're near each other. I
think that's a good look. Who do you like better?
And I could see the I think Nicks probably maybe
should be ahead, but I think they should be close. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Someone said it on Twitter the other day, like what
if the Packers were so run heavy last year because
Jordan Lovesne wasn't right all season after explained as mcl
and the opener on that ice skating rink in Brazil.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, that's a good point we have to ask On
the quarterbacks. There was a tremendous debate raging in the
Fantasy pros slack channel yesterday about a trade that had
gone down in a work league that neither you are
you nor I are in this league, but we both
did way in on this trade a bit because there
was a lot of debate about if it was an egregious,

(17:52):
controversial trade. There wasn't any vetoing done. We don't have
vetos in our work leagues typically, but there was a
lot of, like you know, people taking different sides about
whether this was a fair deal or not. So the
trade was Anthony Richardson and Javonte Williams for a twenty
twenty six first and a twenty twenty six third. Now,

(18:13):
Javonte obviously there's an opportunity there this year to get
some volume, but largely is a diminished asset and a
third rounder a year from now on. Was you know,
somewhat of a weak class. Probably not a needle mover.
You could be, you never know. It's not toe picks,
but probably not a needle mover. The main crux of
it is Anthony Richardson for a twenty twenty six first.
You did weigh in and slack, but I want you

(18:34):
to weigh in for the people listening here. What was
your response to if that was a fair or controversial trade?

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Anthony Richardson like huge gamble in year one when he
was a rookie, he only played like four games and
you know, injury abbreviated season. But in those four games,
like he was a pretty spectacular scorer because of his
rushing ability, and he has massive rushing upside, like if
he can ever just get to the point where he's

(19:04):
serviceable as a passer. Like Richardson is just a lethal runner,
and we saw him in his rookie year, granted that
small four game sample size, we saw him score more
Fantasy points per snap that year than QB one overall
Josh Allen. So like that's the upside we're talking about now.

(19:24):
Last year, I mean, Richardson was just a train rate.
You can't be an NFL starter if you're not completing
even fifty percent of your passes. We'll see if Shane
Stiken can get him straightened out or if he can
even keep his job with Daniel Jones around. Now, huge
gamble with the potential for a huge payoff for that

(19:45):
person making the trade. The only problem is if you're
doing this, like my understanding was that the person who
traded for Anthony Richardson is kind of in a rebuild,
Your twenty twenty six first is probably going to be
an early first. That's the part I don't like. If
you know it was gonna be uh one ten through
one twelve, I'm more okay with it, But man, if

(20:08):
that winds up being a top three pick for the
team that made the deal. Wow.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
That's the other thing that's that's interesting to me is
it's I think it's a two QB league. I don't
know if they meant superflex or literally two QB when
they're describing it, but in a league where you can
and should be starting two quarterbacks, I worry more about
a guy like Richardson. If he hits, the values even higher.
But if he doesn't hit, it hurts you even worse

(20:36):
than in one quarterback like Richardson is the type of
guy I'd rather having a one QB dynasty because he
can be a difference maker if he really does hit,
and it's harder to find difference makers when only twelve
guys are starting. In a super flex or two QB league,
you need to have two quality quarterbacks, right Like, if
he is not hitting, that hurts you more so that
risk I'm less of a fan of in that format.

(20:59):
I'm a fan of having them on your team and
taking that risk, But to give up a first to
do so is where I think it gets. It gets
pretty scary. By the way, speaking of kind of future
pick values. The other big update to this year's draft
you value chart is we now have twenty twenty seven
pick values in here as well, not just twenty twenty
five for those whose Draft seven happening yet, and twenty

(21:19):
twenty six, which we always have, but we have another
year out. Now we have twenty twenty seven, and I
do think it's worth highlighting that normally the closer you
are to the pick, the more value it's going to have.
But because of the nature of the classes, we have
twenty twenty seven early picks valued higher than twenty twenty
six picks we have in superflex. For example, a pick

(21:39):
in the top three in twenty twenty six is worth
fifty four. In twenty twenty seven it's worth fifty eight.
So even accounting for the extra year, that is really
reflective of Jeremiah Smith and Brian Williams and Arch Manning
might wait a year to come out, like there's twenty
twenty seven is the class to be targeting. And we've
talked before in the show, like you have made the

(22:02):
case that oh, people already know, you know, they don't
need to you know that our listeners are smart enough
to know twenty twenty seven is the class. And I say, well,
maybe the people in their leagues aren't smart enough, so
you should be going to try and trade right now.
Say hey, man, you know I want to another year
of the rebuild. Here's my twenty twenty six first for
your twenty twenty seven first if you can, if you're
in a position where you're you're willing to wait a

(22:23):
year and be patient, I can't recommend that enough. And
the class will change right like what it looks like
next March versus today for the twenty twenty six class,
for example, will be different. That happens every year, but
right now it sure looks like twenty twenty seven is
the class.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
It does look that way, worm, and that's why. Yeah,
with the first the early first round picks, which is
top three basically, and then picks four through six, we
would rather have those picks for twenty twenty seven than
those picks for twenty twenty six, because twenty twenty seven
looks like a ridiculously stacked class, and twenty twenty six, eh,

(23:01):
I don't know if it's going to be a great
rookie draft next year, guys. So yeah, I mean, even
despite the fact that you're waiting an extra year, I
think those twenty twenty seven picks are more valuable. I
mean Jeremiah Smith, Ryan Williams, just you know, prolific performers
at a very young age. I mean Ryan Williams. Did
he play some games last year at age seventeen?

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Yeah, really young.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, you know, maybe arch Manning is in that class.
Maybe twenty twenty six, DJ Lagway, Cam Coleman.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Julian saying in Ohio state.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, just there's Alasco Clemson. Dylan Ryola from Nebraska is
in that class. So a lot of interesting players for
twenty twenty seven. I think that is going to be
a mega class.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
It feels similar to a couple of years out how
we were talking about the twenty twenty four class and
that ended up being very prescient. That ended up being
the right class to trade into, getting guys like Caleb
and May and Daniels and Bowers and I mean neighbors.
That was the correct move, And I feel similarly about
twenty twenty seven. By now, most of you have probably

(24:12):
heard of Reality Sports Online, the powerful fantasy sports platform
where owners get to build and manage their fantasy team
like an NFL general manager. But the question is have
you tried it? It's time to go see what all
the buzz in the dynasty community is about. Free agency,
multi year contracts or rookie drafts, multi team trades, franchise tags,
contract extensions, first round rookie options, automated contract and salary

(24:32):
cap functionality, and much much more. I think it sounds complicated.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
The best thing about Reality Sports Online Fantasy front Office
is that it doesn't take any more time than a
standard league. It just requires more strategy. Think you're among
the fantasy elite, Well, this is the platform to test
your metal. If you're still not sure, you can test
out your general manager skills for free in a mock
free agency auction. If you like what you see, use
promo code Fantasy Pros to receive a ten percent discount
on your team or league today. That's Promo Code Fantasy

(24:58):
Pros to receive a ten percent discount on your team
or league today. Fantasy just got real at Reality Sports
online dot Com. All right, fits, let's go a little
quicker through the running backs and receivers, just because there's
not a ton of movement in this time of year.
Looking at the running backs first, here, same guys at
the top, No change there really very minimal change throughout

(25:19):
the top you know, the seventeen ish. I mean it
really depending on how you define minimal change. Really the
top twenty five or so, there's really not much going on.
You see some of the rookies maybe moving around a
bit as you get further down in the rankings. Guys
like Base schel Tuten and Cam Skataboo have gone up
a bit, but it's largely kind of staying with where
it's at. So why don't we say, don't tell me

(25:42):
the player that you disagree with most, because we were
going to be diving into that later on this week,
and I want to let that serve as a tease
for the episode with you, Me and Bogman that will
be dropping later in the week. But who are some
of the names that stand out to you as at
the very least interesting conversation topics for where they're ranked?

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, So, I mean I think we we did what
we needed to do in adjusting some of the rookie
running backs upward with Caleb Johnson, Camp scattabou Ba, shal
Toot and Jarquees Hunter. Those guys got pretty significant bumps.
So I agree with all of that. I don't know.
I mean I feel like we've got things right, Like
we've got Christian McCaffrey. I think his value he's always

(26:21):
been kind of like a Bellweather guy for me when
I look at our rankings and compare him to players
with similar value, because Christian McCaffrey is a really hard
player to appraise, Like he's got potentially immense immediate value,
but like the clock feels like it's ticking with him
with his injury history. But I feel like we came

(26:41):
down to the right spot with him with a value
of forty seven, which is akin to Ricky Piersall, a
young player. I think that would be a pretty fair
exchange between a win now team and a rebuilding team.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Let me ask you, Brice Hall, he's the eight most
valued running back in these rankings fifty seven. He went
down a slight bit, but he didn't change ranking. It
was just there's a little bit more of a gap
between him in the top seven now, but very minimal there.
Like I said, eighth most valuable running back value fifty seven.
That's equivalent on the receiver side to looking at guys

(27:18):
like Travis Hunter and t Higgins. It's the equivalent of
about a Trey McBride in non tight end premium, and
then if you're looking at kind of like the quarterback
side of things to give an equivalent, it will be
more valuable than any QB in a one QB league.
But then it gets down into that Camore Dak Prescott
justin fields range in a superflex format. Again, that's all

(27:41):
comparing with Bryce Hall. I find Hall to be really
fascinating because a year ago this was like a top
three dynasty running back and there was a lot of
excitement for him, and now it feels like a lot
of that shine has worn off, at least in terms
of the redraft conversation. I've done a lot of shows
in the last few weeks where it feels like he's

(28:02):
somebody that people are pointing to as a guy they're
kind of avoiding in the range. He's going a guy
who they wish was going around later, a guy who
they're not really excited to go after in that Jets offense.
And I'm wondering because because that doesn't seem to line
up if you're if you're already starting to fade a
running back in redraft, I'm not sure why they're still
a top eight guy in Dynasty. Just kind of philosophically,

(28:24):
having said that, I'm not sure it's the right decision
to be fading him as much as he is getting
faded in redraft, So maybe this is kind of standing
against that a bit, and and this ranking is maybe
reflective of just there's still some upside in there.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
It was such a lost season last.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Year for that offense that I don't want to hold
it against him too much. They've also talked a lot about,
you know, using Braylan Allen and Isaiah Davis, so I
totally get the negative kind of side of things too.
I guess this is a lot of rambling to build
up to the point of just asking you what do
you think about him, both in terms of the value
and in terms of the ranking amongst running backs for
Dynasty purposes.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
I think we have it right as far as you know,
the drop in value we've seen from this time of
year ago, worm just coming off the disappointing season, and
we've got Aaron Glenn. Basically, he's in a very straightforward
way telling us that he wants to use a committee.
But at the same time, Brisaul is still young. I
think he just turned twenty four a couple of days ago.

(29:23):
He's a pretty terrific prospect, you know, only slightly below
the level of like Bijon Robinson, Ashton Genty and Saquon Barkley,
you know, and like he delivers value as a pass catcher,
said one hundred and thirty three catches the last two years,
So that pays off in Dynasty since all almost all
Dynasty leagues are PPR. You know, I'd like to think

(29:46):
we haven't seen his best season yet, like we have
not gotten a thousand yard rushing season from Breshall, and
I do feel like there's one in him. I just
don't know if it comes with the Jets.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
I'm looking at some of.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
The other names around him, Like if I'm in win now,
I think I'd rather have Chase Brown than him, and
Brown is a.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Few spots lower.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
And if I'm in rebuilding mode, I think I'd rather
have Traveon Henderson. And he's also a couple spots behind
Bruce Hall. So he's kind of in that weird middle
ground where I don't know what kind of roster he
fits best based on what we've seen out of him recently,
I guess is kind of where my confusion is agreed.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah, he is a strange purgatory player.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yes, I think that's right.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Any quick thoughts on the receivers just as a whole,
or if any name stands out Again, there's really not
much change here. Garrett Wilson went up a few ticks,
which I agree with. I think Wilson is kind of
getting slept on a bit in the dynasty community right now.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
I really like him being paired with Justin Fields.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
What we saw happened obviously not just at Ohio State,
but then Fields with his top receiver in Dj Moore
when he was in Chicago. I'm really excited about Garrett
Wilson this year. You know, a lot of these names
from nine to thirteen is Drake London, Lad mcconkee, JSN,
Marvin Harris Junior, Garret Wilson, just a lot of young,
really talented receivers that you could see taking steps forward.

(31:03):
There's not really a stretch of the receiver rankings that
stands out as wow, I don't know how to parse
through these guys. It feels pretty pretty appropriate all the
way down. Does anybody stand out to you or can
we kind of move past the position?

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah? We can move past. Do we drop some of
the older guys Tyreek Hill, you know, just hous He.
I think last year planted some real seeds of doubt
in our heads. And you know, these are based largely
in the rankings of myself, Derek Brown, Andrew Ericksson, you know,
and we've also heard like things are maybe not great

(31:36):
with Tyreek in the Miami locker room, and it just
seems like maybe far fetched that he ever gets back
to a seventeen hundred yard season, and last year was
certainly kind of a wake up call with him. And
we also dropped guys like I don't know who were
some of the older vets, Chris Godwin, maybe some skepticism

(31:56):
about the recovery and now with a Mecca Agbuca there
Stefan Diggs, who you know, with his boat escapades might
have put himself on maybe slightly less firm ground in
New England. But we did bump up your guy, Rashaan
Bateman a little bit.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Yeah, why you were sixty, that's probably too low.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah, I think we were just realizing he, you know,
like pretty good season last year he turned into kind
of a splash play guy. I don't know what DeAndre
hopkins arrival does to Bateman like I don't think he's
gonna be a high volume target earner anyway, but like
it was good to see something from him, and maybe
that was part of why we moved him up alone.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Todd Munkins said earlier today that he doesn't view Hopkins
as wide receiver three. He views it as the team
has three starting receivers or whatever that's worth. I'm you
can read into that however much you'd like. I would
say for me, I actually just said this. I was
taking a show earlier with Ericson and Jake seely I,
and this is from a redraft perspective, but you can,

(32:56):
I think, apply it to Dynasty two. I really don't
want a lot of Ravens on my teams this year. Obviously,
Lamar amazing, Derrick Henry amazing. If you're a contender in Dynasty,
I'm not really buying at cost a lot of Zay.
I'm not buying at cost a lot of Mark Andrews.
I'd be very interested in Isaiah likely as a Dynasty guy.

(33:17):
I mean, he's tied in thirteen in our trade value chart,
and I think that's appropriate because he and Andrews are both
not under contract after the season, so they might not
even both be in Baltimore anymore. If Andrews gets hurt
at all, likely it's gonna be a top six tight
end every week.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Like I really like that one.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
But I'm not buying Zay, I'm not buying Hopkins, I'm
not buying a lot of Bateman. I just think there's
not enough footballs to go around to feed all these
This is a team that outside of we know when
they're in close they want to get as many touchdowns
as possible to Derrick Henry. Outside of that, I think
this team wants to spread the ball around at every opportunity,
and I'm not buying them for a lot of dynasty value.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
So I do think wide receiver sixty.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
I would be interested in Bateman at that level because
I do think the talent's there and he's finally feels
like finally healthy for the first time in his career.
But in general, I think that's an off that's going
to be really difficult for dynasty value moving forward.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Honestly, Yeah, we saw Lamar pass at a hyper efficient
level last season, and yet who among his pass catchers
was truly valuable, Like obviously Derrick Henry was really valuable,
but Zay Flowers I think was maybe considered a slight disappointment.
Bateman was just really unpredictable, Like you couldn't start him

(34:25):
every week and count on him. Mark Andrews had that
horrid start where he was like outside the top thirty
and fantasy points per game among tight ends through five
weeks and then scored eleven touchdowns in twelve games. So
like it was pretty dicey with the pass catchers last year,
and that was with Lamar Jackson just totally clicking. Then

(34:47):
he set a new career high in TD passes last year.
I mean, he was just hot fire. But we know
the Ravens are always going to run the ball.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
It was one of the greatest quarterback seasons statistically in
NFL his and no, I mean Andrews caught a bunch
of touchdowns in the second half of the season, but
even he didn't have a ton like a lot of
receiving yards and nobody else like it was a true standout.
Zay had that month in the middle of the season
where he was excellent, but that was looked like kind
of the outlier. I'm obviously get the names around him.

(35:17):
He's surrounded by guys Roma Dunza at Buka Worthy. I'd
rather have all those guys than, say, honestly, on a
dynasty roster.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Yeah, can make that case. The only thing is you
know he's going to be around for a while, and.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
I like say, the player, I'm worried about.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
The fantasy consistency. Yeah, that's great, that's my part. The player,
I think is very, very good. If you want to
evaluate your trades with confidence, you should use the Fantasy
Pros Trade Analyzer. Instantly see the impact of trades on
your team and get expert recommendations, whether you're making a
two for one deal or swapping a couple of draft
picks for that stud who will help you win now.
The Trade Analyzer will help you optimize your roster and

(35:56):
make smarter decisions. Try the Trade Analyzer today at Fantasypros
dot com, Slash my playbook and dominate your league. All right,
fits Le's slide into our listener questions. We only have
a couple of chats, so I'm gonna read through these first,
and then we'll start bringing some folks on stage. We've
got some hands raised. We'll be bringing you up here
in just a couple of minutes. One of the comments
here that was made about Kyle Pitts pretty sure. R. J.

(36:18):
Harvey is only a couple of months away from being
the same age as Kyle Pitts, which is just.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
He's correct on this. Pitts was born in late two thousand,
Harvey in early two thousand and one. They're like five
months apart.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Very very fun and wild to look at that. CFC
fan ten team half PPR super flex, no tight end, premium,
second year of a rebuild here thoughts on trading pick six,
pick eleven and Keon Coleman to get Lad McConkey and
Isaiah likely feels kind of steep, So what I be
better off just holding those picks to take Tet or

(36:53):
Hunter or Loveland. For context, there's like a ninety five
percent chance the big four running backs are taking in
the top five, so pick six would be one of
those two receivers. Also still has pick eight that could
take a running back there or potentially trade back. So
what I would say when I first read this, I
was going to say, I don't think Tet and Hunter
will be there at six, But if you have kind

(37:14):
of this knowledge that these running backs are going to
go early. That does change the calculus for me. Honestly,
the idea of getting Lad and Likely is really enticing,
as I'm sure you feel similarly fits, but I do
really love Tet and obviously Hunter is this obscene upside,
So that makes it trickier for me. Then if I didn't,

(37:34):
if I thought those two guys are going to be gone,
then I think it would be much easier for me
to say, yes, definitely make this trade. That makes it
more of a consideration. What are your early thoughts on
this one?

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yeah, I mean Lad delivers a lot of value over average,
but man, if you can get Tet at number six
and like Tet plus Keon Coleman versus Lad, like that's
that's pretty close. And then when you consider it, pick
a lot that Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Mean that eleventh pick that could be a BUKA, that.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Could be it could be Colston Loveland or Tyler Warren
and the defense Warren. But I'd rather have either of
those guys in Isaiah Likely, So I actually think I
would stay pushed.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
I would rather have Loveland than Likely. I would actually
rather have Likely than Warren. I'm that I'm not worried
about the offense. I think Likely is a stud I
think Likely is so good that I because of the
landing spot for Warren, I have like done a one
eighty on that.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
I really like Likely.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
But I totally understand that I'm out on a limb there,
and I recognize that that's not consensus.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
So I don't want.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Warren can run the ball. He's an ex high school quarterback.
I mean he is, He's going to get his.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Likely can run with the ball in his hands too.
He's stiff farm guys. He's he's got the after the
catch ability to just just saying no. Yeah, I I
I think it's a fair trade. I also think it's
fair to not do the trade. Like I think it's
totally fine to go either way. I think ultimately I
probably wouldn't do the trade if you're sure that Ted

(39:05):
or Hunter is getting there at six. But if you
had less certainty about that, I would do the trade.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Will be kind of my stance.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Yeah, I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, next chat here from Xeon, I guess I'm not
sure I pronounce this. Hey, gentlemen, got this offer for
Ashton that's genty of course in a full rebuild and
needs running back in a bad way. What are our thoughts?
The trade is the one on one, which is Ashton
genty of course, Brett for Brandon Nyuk, the one ten

(39:37):
next year's first, and also the one twelve, so it's
too late first this year, a first next year, and
Brandon Nyuk for Ashton genty. You fits famously turned down
two full draft classes from somebody in one of our
leagues for the first overall pick.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Would you have accepted this offer?

Speaker 2 (39:58):
No? No, I would rather of Gentee than this. Like,
I'm not a huge Ayuke guy. He had that one
season of hyper efficiency and then blew out his knee,
and like, I don't know if he's ever gonna repeat
that level of efficiency, and like he's never been. He
has not been a prolific target earner. They kind of
spread it around in San Francisco, So I don't think

(40:20):
he has that much value. One ten, Like if you're lucky,
Caleb Johnson slips to you there, but like you need
if you need running backs, like that's almost the cutoff point.
It's possible that none of quinch On Judkins, Traveon Henderson, RJ. Harvey,
or Caleb Johnson are there for you at number ten.

(40:41):
So like you might not get your running backs if
you make this deal and you have the chance to get.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
He does need receivers to looking at his roster truthfully,
like he has DJ Moore and DK Metcalf and Rome
madoonsday like it's better than his running back position.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
But it's not like.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
There he's so loaded there that he could wouldn't use
in Igbuca or whoever. It is just just for the record,
And frankly he could use tight end too. His tight
end is Brenton Strange unless I'm missing somebody on the
bench here, So.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yeah, can I can I defend myself? So that offer
that I turned down, I had the chance to trade
the right fashion gent with the one oh one which
I'd acquired myself in a trade.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
You acquire that in a ridiculous trade, by the way,
you got that got handed to you on a silver platter.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Yeah, I was pretty happy with that one. But so
the offer was Romo Dunes and then are defending champions
all five or six of his first of his draft
picks this year and all of his draft picks in
twenty twenty six. The problem is he's the defending champion,
and he's picking twelfth in every round, So it's like

(41:48):
one twelve, two, twelve, three, twelve this year, and he's
going to be good again this year. So those twenty
twenty six picks are all going to be low in
each round. And there are only so many roster spots
where I'm like adding all those picks to all my picks,
Like I can't keep all those guys, and you know,
like when I'm yeah, I have some bum veterans i'd

(42:09):
like to get rid of on my team, but at
a certain point, you're adding all these picks, and like,
you can only cut so far before you're sort of
cutting into the bone with the guys you have. So like,
as much as that looks like, oh, hey, you know
you're getting ten or twelve draft picks in Romo Dunes,
they're kind of lower picks and I just don't have

(42:30):
room for all of them.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
I don't know if you heard this, I won't say
who it is, just to you know, protect their privacy
for whatever reason, even though they talked about it on
a podcast. But this is an industry league. There's a
lot of people on other shows in this league. And
I was listening to a podcast with the person who
made that offer to you. He was saying he would
not have accepted the trade if he was you correct,
So he you know you were you said no to this,

(42:54):
you know, huge godfather offer. But the guy offering it
was like, yeah, I wouldn't have done it either.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
It's always surreal to be walking your dog and hear
yourself mentioned on someone else's podcast. And but yeah, that
was kind of amusing.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
We got one more in the chat here, then we'll
start collin some folks up onto this stage from Antwinias
antwiny as how you pronounced it? Twelve team Dynasty Auction
keep six start ten with two flex, one quarterback, one
point PPR no tight end Premium has finished very well
in inside the top three the last four seasons. Has
the one ten. In this year's draft, one manager has

(43:31):
four picks in round one. His quarterbacks are Mahomes and
JJ McCarthy. Does this guy hold at the one ten
and let the draft come to him or try to
move up in the first and move pieces off the roster.
Here's what the roster looks like.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Fits it's Lamar, J.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Daniels, Gino Smith, Chase Brown or Madre Stevenson, Brian Robinson,
Junior Davonte Williams, will Shipley, Gus Edwards, Lad McConkey, and
then a bunch of kind of useless receivers, Mark Andrews.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Evan Ingram and chig Aconquam.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Would you try to sit at one ten in this
scenario or would you try to move around and.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Try and get up higher in the draft, Like if
you only keep six, it's more of a keeper league
than a true dynasty, don't you think. And I'm not
sure how many rookies you're adding, Like he's got he's
got Lamar Jackson and Jayden Daniels. Like he's not going
for a quarterback there obviously, Chase Brown, Brian.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
Ro I mean, I mean his six keepers look pretty obvious.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
To me, Lamar Jaden Daniels, Chase Brown, Lad Miconkee, Mark Andrews,
of An Ingram unless you see it differently.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
I think the place where Antonius one has leverage is
a quarterback. He's got Lamar Jackson and Jayden Daniels in
a one QB league, and Gino Smith is a perfectly
fine backup quarterback in a one QB league. I mean,
that's where you can move up by shopping one of
Lamar Jaden Daniels. So you know, I think maybe, yes,

(44:59):
I'd try to do that. And since Jaden is young,
younger and I feel he is the number one overall
QB for Dynasty, like, I think it's worth shopping Lamar
Jackson and seeing if you know, Lamar can get you
up higher. Lamar plus the one ten should be able
to get you, I don't know what, pretty close to

(45:20):
the top three, if not inside it worm, I would
think it quite sutary.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
The guy who is one o two and one oh
three has Mahomes and McCarthy already, so he might He's
not necessarily in the market for a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
I mean, Lamar will be not how much of an
upgrade to move out of one of those piss.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Yeah, and you're probably not going to be able to
get one oh one, so maybe maybe you get you know,
you give the person sitting at one oh four Lamar Jackson.
I mean, see if they'd take Lamar Jackson straight up
for one oh four. If not, maybe you could throw
in one ten, one ten and Lamar Jackson for one

(45:59):
oh four in some thing else. But I do think
it's worth exploring something to move up and try to
leverage that you know, outrageous quarterback situation you have, Antonius.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
It's clearly the strongest room on the on the roster.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
So that's I mean, it's if you can't make a
trade like I wouldn't just give them away.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
It's fun to have two elite.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Quarterbacks, even in one QB league and just know you'll
not have to think about the position again for fifteen years.
But uh yeah, I think it's worth giving an effort
on that too. Let's start bringing some folks up on
to the stages and if you guys have more questions
of the chat, we will we will circle back to
those if any more comes in. Let's bring up herbs
and cheese here.

Speaker 5 (46:39):
So I'm gonna draw my team in the chat real quick.
So my question is really around Doonathan Taylor and the
one o six. So my current build, I have the
one on one in this draft, I also have the
one of six, so I think GENTI to this roster,
it feels like I'm going to be pretty running back heavy.
So I was looking at and I think I like

(47:02):
the running backs in the one oh six range decently,
like an Archie Harvey or Caleb Johnson. I think there's
a decent chance that Judkins might follow the six in
this draft. So with that in mind, is it a
good idea to try to move off Jonathan Taylor? Or like,
would you stick with Jonathan Taylor and move back a

(47:24):
few spots in the draft? There's Hunter could be there?
Is he worth the risk without This team's pretty thin
bench wise but has okay starters where the league's pretty flat,
So I could go either way depending on trades during
the season. But I don't know if you think Hunter's
worth the risk at six just to add diversity to
the team or try to move off Taylor for maybe

(47:45):
like you're Saw and Jameson Williams type player, like those
two guys or maybe one of them in early second
or something like that. Kind of wants some input on
six and Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
But yeah, Fitz, wait, what do you think about this?
What I mean the team this looks like at least
the starting lineup. I know the benches thing, but the
starting lineup looks like sounds like it would be pretty
close to a contending team to me. So I'm not
like desperate to move off Taylor and I wouldn't mind
if you're ready to win.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
I wouldn't I don't.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
I wouldn't mind having a strong running back core, like
even if it does mean having Taylor and Walker and
adding gent and you know, let's say r J. Harvey
to it, or whoever it ends up being, quin John
Jenkins whoever. Like, I don't think you're forced to make
a move just to avoid being running back heavy. But
for the right deal, I don't know for me personally
if Pearcell and Williams would be the right deal.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
But for the right deal, I'm not opposed to moving off.
What do you think fits?

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Yeah, I mean, so start with the you know, the
full disclosure that I'm a Wisconsin Badger fan and so
I love Jonathan Taylor and think the world of him.
But like generally, I think it's a pretty good time
to sell. The thing is, if you're a contending team,
like you don't want to. I guess you want to
keep your eye on the prize and you know, know
you're playing for this year. But the concerns are that,

(49:04):
like he's starting to have these ankle injuries like every
year now after being pretty indestructible in college and early
in his pro career, now, like he seems like he's
missing time every year. And the other issue is that,
like Taylor was never a great pass catcher to begin with,
and he's really not going to catch any passes. If
Anthony Richardson is playing quarterback, he just you know, does

(49:27):
not dump off. And Taylor is not a prolific pass catcher,
So I worry about his upside there. Dynasty leagues are
PPR leagues after all, so there might be kind of
an upside limitation for him. Plus he's been getting like
ninety percent of the carriers for the Colts, which, like,
I don't know if that lasts forever either, So I
do think like his value might be higher now than

(49:50):
it's ever going to be from this point forward. I
know someone in our discord asked me today if if
I would trade the one oh six pick fo Jonathan Taylor,
and I said I would not. I'd just be looking
to take the top running back available there, whether it's
you know, brien Seawn R. J. Harvey, Caleb Johnson, Traveon.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
Would you, given his roster, want to take Travis Hunter
at the sixth pick?

Speaker 2 (50:18):
I mean, I do have Hunter, I think ranked ahead
of all of those guys except Traveon Henderson. I'd rather
have Travion than Hunter. I just you know, I'm the
Freddie Kat who's worried that Hunter doesn't get enough offensive
snaps and maybe has moved to primarily cornerback at some point,

(50:39):
and that just got his fantasy value.

Speaker 5 (50:41):
So the other aspect of kind of why I'm looking
to move Taylor's I have him in both the two
Dynasty leagues I'm in. I have them in both, so
kind of the risk around the offense and all there's
things you mentioned, I kind of want to diversify a
little bit. So I think I could do Taylor for
the one O eight. I was originally hesitant to do
that just because the eight I was assuming I'm just
gonna take a running back that I'm hoping turns into

(51:03):
Jonathan Taylor at that spot. But if I could get
the one owight and then do Hunter and then like
Harvey or kill Johnson at the eight, do you think
that would be a worthwhile trade to get these guys.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
I mean, so our Dynasty trade values chard puts Jonathan
Taylor with a value of fifty six and the one
oweight with a value of fifty two. But considering the
guys you could get there like plus plus.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
If you end up like let's say Hunter isn't there
at six, you could just take a running back there
and then like a Guka or some other receiver, yeah,
eight and kind of flip them.

Speaker 5 (51:41):
Yeah yeah, okay, Yeah, I'll keep shopping them and see
what I can get, but I'll probably end up moving
off them. Might do the one owight kind of and
then go from there. Put appreciate them.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Put guys, Yeah, you bet. Not a bad idea to
diversify at all.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
All right, let's bring up Josh So.

Speaker 6 (51:59):
I I had talked to you guys a couple of
weeks ago, and it was about Justin Jefferson trade and
I was, I got a trade off for anyone, to
see what you guys thought. It's a twelve twelve team,
two team, two quarterbacks, I guess, super flex And it
was for Justin Jefferson, for Karen Williams, DeVante Smith and.

Speaker 7 (52:24):
DK Metcalf, which kind of is like a part beating.
My question is I'm kind of trying to figure out
my value for DK Metcalf, and I want.

Speaker 8 (52:30):
To see what your guys' thoughts were on that.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Yeah, Metcalf is an interesting one.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Fits I'll pull up the chart which is hasn't meant
about fifty one value, which is the twenty fourth monkst receivers.
He's an interesting one to value right now though.

Speaker 8 (52:46):
Yeah, it's been it's been tough.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
So here's the problem with our and most dynasty trade
value charts or calculators. Gosh, those guys. If you add
up the value, I'm sorry it was Metcalf and uh.

Speaker 8 (53:04):
Iron Williams and DeVante Smith.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Yeah, so those are really good players, and the value
numerical values from our charts certainly exceed the overall value
of Justin Jefferson. But what I think you have to
do is look at it like value over average, and
Justin Jefferson has you know, one of the highest values

(53:30):
over average of any player out there. No, Like, he
is just so farrow and away head and shoulders more
valuable than the average fantasy receiver, the average safe, staring
wide receiver three and like if you add up the
value over average for kyn E k And I'm sorry,

(53:51):
I keep forgetting who the third, Ohdavante Smith?

Speaker 6 (53:54):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Like does it does their value over average equal the
value over average that justin Jefferson has and I don't
know because Kyron is the one that worries me. I
feel like the bottom could potentially drop out on Kyron
at some point, especially now that they've got you know,
they've spent fairly early picks on running backs the last

(54:16):
two years. John McVeagh has always been like a little
unpredictable with his running backs, Like he has swerved us
Beforewhard we thought it was going to be cam Akers
or we thought it was going to be Man I forget.
So yeah, like that kind of scares me. And I'm
like a big DeVante Smith fan. I like d Kal
though he's starting to get into the twilight of his career.

(54:39):
But like, you know, if you're if the only way
I would take this is if you feel like you're
ready to win now, but like you need you've got
a couple holes that need patching, like maybe one starting
spot and like one depth piece, and now all of
a sudden, like you're getting three really useful players right away.
You can replace Jefferson in your lineup with Smith and

(55:04):
then or Metcalf, and then you've got another receiver for depth,
and you get this stud running back, Like I could
see the appeal there, but if you're like not a
clear cut contender, I would not do this draight, So
so I.

Speaker 8 (55:20):
Would be the one trying to trade for Justin Jefferson.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Oh oh gosh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 8 (55:25):
No.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Yeah, I also had that I'm sorry, no, no, you're good.

Speaker 8 (55:31):
You guys are good.

Speaker 7 (55:31):
I realized I didn't clarify that. I think I just
kind of works. I'm like, then that leaves a lot
of holes. Like I posted my lineup in the chat,
it's like, so I'm like, okay, I get Justin Jefferson.
But then it's like, if I'm trying to contend now,
is that more of like a long term move because
I'll be losing three starters.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Well, Jefferson is obviously somebody who will be around for
a while, so that is nice that he can kind
of go both ways in that respect.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
I like, personally, I'm.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Pulling up your roster now to get a closer look
at it. Like, I think it's always important to remember
that values in Dynasty are not additive, right, So, like
Fits pointed out, kind of the value of those three
guys does add up more to Jefferson, but in the
long run, it's probably more valuable to have one star

(56:18):
compared to those guys, especially if you are somewhat down
on some of those other guys. Yeah, I mean looking
at the roster, like obviously, like Brian Thomas with Jefferson
is just like such a fun pairing.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
Yeah, definitely win now.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
In terms of the QBS, I would personally be willing
to do. I think it's like in total value. You
could argue the case that it's like an overpay or whatever,
but like I said, since those are an additive, like,
I think I'd be inclined to do this.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Yeah. Interesting, Okay, I agree. It might. You know, it
makes you maybe a lesser team for this year, but
I would still want to do it.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Man, and the guys that make you win now are
young enough that you'll still be winning now a year
from now, right, Yeah, it is a step back this year,
you'll be in such an awesome position moving forward.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Oh my goodness. The corner corner stones on this team
with Brian Thomas justin Jefferson, those two quarterbacks, Like, yeah,
that's I would find it hard to resist that deal.

Speaker 8 (57:21):
Okay, Okay, awesome, So thank you so much, guys. That
helps a lot.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Definitely, thanks Josh coming on.

Speaker 8 (57:27):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
All right, we got a couple more folks to bring
up here on the stages.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
Bring up g Dog. Hey, how's it going, guys? Good?

Speaker 2 (57:37):
How are you doing?

Speaker 9 (57:38):
I'm doing good. I'm doing good. I just dropped my
team in the chat. I had the second pick and
the one oh nine and a tight end Premium super Flex.
I went with cam Wore just because I only had CJ. Shroud, Richardson,
and McCarthy going into the season, and then of course
at one o nine Henderson was still there. So someone

(57:59):
offered me Drake May for Richardson and HNDO. I didn't
take the trade because I already had cam Ward. So
I'm just kind of wondering what you guys think about
the shape of my team after the draft, and kind
of I feel like I'm in tank mode and kind
of rebuilding. I just traded away AJ Brown and got
a twenty six first in a twenty seven second, So

(58:19):
I just kind of wondering what you guys think overall.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Wait, I'm sure you traded AJ Brown for what twenty
twenty seven first and.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
Forty six first in a twenty seven second.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Yep, Yeah, I'm okay with that consistent with thinking that
you're kind of building towards something, and I agree, like
this is not like a contending roster this year, but like, yeah,
I think you're on the right track and that was
a good move. When would you have done the Drake
May for our Richardson and Henderson?

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Yeah, so I like the trade away of aj Brown
and leaning into it's kind of the rebuild. I probably
would have traded for Drake May, largely because I am
extraordinarily high on May, So to me, that would have
been a trade I would do, even with you having
already drafted like Ward earlier in that draft. I just

(59:12):
I just think May is like a stud. I'm I'm
just a huge fan of his, and especially if you're rebuilding,
I'm willing to take on a bit more risk.

Speaker 8 (59:19):
Now.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Obviously Richardson is his own kind of high variance risk,
so you know, it's not like you were keeping the
safe option there. But I just really personally like May.
Fits I know you like May a lot too, do
you agree?

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Yeah? I love May. I think I would have done
the deal, but man, like, I still think there's a chance.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
I also think, like Henderson at the one or nine
is awesome, Like that's.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
Yeah, I definitely didn't see that coming.

Speaker 9 (59:41):
And then Jackson Jackson Dart was still there at the
two ten and I did I felt like I kind
of had to take him there.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Oh you got Dart on this roster. I didn't even
see that. How did a lot of doubt? Now, how
did Dart get two ten and a super flex? And like,
I'm not even the biggest Dart fan in the world,
but that's crazy.

Speaker 9 (59:58):
Yeah, that's how I felt on I mean, what Golden
was there at the one oh nine and here again,
I felt like I kind of had to take him there.
Everybody else got sniped from me. I was hoping to
get Trey Harris or you know some or even Higgins,
just a pair with c. J.

Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
Stroud. But I mean I just kind of took the
draft from what you know, the players that fell to me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Oh man, Yeah, you definitely got some amazing value with
Henderson and Dart.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Yeah, that's a real smart strategy. And like, I like
the kind of the core of the team. I think
to Fitz's point, you know, you're willing to not win
this year, which is fine because it's a really strong foundation.
And since you've already traded aj Brown, Like I would
lean just all the way into it. You know, I
would be very willing to move a guy like I.
You got to be very willing to move Cheba Hubbard

(01:00:42):
honestly if Walker themselves. Yeah, Walker is an interesting one,
Like Deebro really loves Walker this year, and I like
the player a lot, Like I could see a scenario
where you from now Walker is like has really gone
up in value because he kind of is healthy and
has an awesome season. I could all the sea scenario
where it looks like he's never this high in value again,

(01:01:03):
Like I think he's He's pretty boom or bust in
terms of the dynasty value in my opinion, fits.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
I would say, like, don't trade him before they start
playing games g dog because like this combination the Seahawks
have now with Clint Kubiak as the offensive coordinator Rick
Dennison as the running game coordinator, Like the Kubiak Dennison

(01:01:30):
combination has made magic everywhere where they've gone. And it
was actually Clint Kubiak's dad, Gary and Dennison working together
in Denver for years and like this is you know,
ancient history. Depending on how old you are but like
Denver used to spit out all these guys who would
like have these come out of nowhere and have these
monster fantasy seasons, dudes like Tatum Bell and Cleveland Orlandis

(01:01:56):
Gary and like these no name guys. It would like
bubble up. And it was system that like made all
these dudes. And like Kenneth Walker is a dude with
actual talent, like I can't wait to see what he
might do in this system. So maybe that's why Deeber
was so excited about Kenneth Walker, and I get it.
I would hang on to him for now.

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
Okay, awesome, I appreciate it.

Speaker 9 (01:02:18):
I also I got three first round picks going into
next year because I traded Jonathan Taylor last year for
two firsts.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
So that just worked out perfect.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
And if you can, I'd maybe even try and push
one of those back into twenty twenty seven and load
up on what looks like a really strong class there too,
And like I said, just kind of lean into it.

Speaker 9 (01:02:37):
Okay, yeah, I did hear you guys talking about that.
One last question I did send in. I had a
question I think a couple of weeks ago. I think
fits was on I have a team that just won.
My quarterback position is the only weakness. I mean, I've
got Bijon Gent, Chase London, McBride, Puka Nico to Brian Thomas.
I mean, it's ridiculous, but I'm willing to, you know,

(01:02:59):
send off a first you know, a couple first round
picks for a quarterback because it's a one quarterback league.
But everyone is just so stingy and won't won't be
willing to even talk about trading quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Ah, that's crazy that people won't trade quarterbacks in one
QB league.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Because or maybe want to trade with you because your
team is so stacked.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
It could be, but like it's just yeah, I mean
I would just keep keep knocking on doors like an
annoying salesman, you know, like you gotta you gotta do it.
But like even if it's it doesn't have to be
Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen or you know, like I
I won a one QB redraft league with brock perty

(01:03:40):
last year at quarterback, and you know you could do
it with like man even some like older quarterback. It's
like a one year rental, like Matthew Stafford. Your team
is so loaded you just need like a get me
by quarterback.

Speaker 9 (01:03:54):
I mean I went last year with Donald, I got Donald,
Gino and Richardson, So it's just kind of a crapsh
you going into the season.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Yeah, I mean at this point, who knows. I mean,
Gino could maybe give you mid range QB two value.
So yeah, man, I would not and especially in a
one QB league. I would not give up multiple first
for any quarterback in a one QB league, like not
even Lamar.

Speaker 4 (01:04:19):
Not a problem. Appreciate it, guys, Thank.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
You, Thanks to you. Dog.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
All right, let's bring up Ruker Rock here.

Speaker 10 (01:04:28):
Okay, how you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
How are you not bad?

Speaker 10 (01:04:32):
Not bad? So I got a question for you. I
just dropped my team in the chat. Don't worry about
the IDP players. Scoring is so different for IDP it's
not worth not really worth talking about them. So I
think I'm in my wind now my win window. Here.
This was an orphan team I took over in a
in a league and they were really not doing very well.

(01:04:56):
After a couple of years putting, you know, putting together
many losing losing weeks and multiple losing seasons, I got
this team to this point now where I feel like
I'm in a window. The only thing that I'm worried
about here is over exposure to single teams like for

(01:05:17):
example here on this Yeah, Atlanta and Arizona to name
the two. Now, of course, Kyle Pitts isn't my starting
tight end, but you know, he's still He's still an
asset that could have value. In particular, the one that
worries me is Atlanta because you know, with Marv and
Trey McBride, at least that target tree in Arizona looks

(01:05:41):
pretty looks pretty thin. There's not a lot of branches
on that tree. And it's Marvin McBride and then James
Connor probably, But in Atlanta, you know, Bijon and London.
I'm wondering if there's any maybe like bi Loo or
any targets you guys would have if you were looking
to move London because or London or Marv.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
I guess here, First of all, I guess I wouldn't
be too spooked by the Atlanta situation either, because I think,
like you know, Bijon is obviously the man in the
running game, and like you know, I still think London
profiles is an alpha receiver, and I think it's possible
for both guys to eat. And I see you at
Penix two as a backup. And if like the Atlanta

(01:06:25):
the Atlanta offense is clicking, like you're going to be
in great shape. And as I said to Worm earlier
in The show Man, Michael Pennox Junior was a king
maker in that Washington offense. Like he got Jalen Polk
drafted in the second round, and we saw what Jalen
Polk did as a rookie. He was a complete zero.
You know, Odonsay was a top ten pick after playing

(01:06:50):
with Michael Pennix and Lego Doonsay's actually really good and
Jalen McMillan showed he was pretty good last year too.
But like another guy who Penix helped get drafted reasonably early,
like I think the Hellana offense could take a big
step forward. Their offensive line is pretty good. So I
wouldn't necessarily be looking to move off London, and certainly

(01:07:12):
not if you couldn't get fair value in a trade.
So that's the thing, Like I mean, the guys we
have valued around London and Harrison. We've got London at
a value of sixty eight, Harrison at a value of
sixty three. The only guys in the neighborhood like Niko
is a sixty nine. We've got him with one more
point of value than Drake London, Lad McConkie, just below

(01:07:35):
Jackson Smith and Jigba has the same value as Marvin
Harrison Garrett Wilson slightly lower than Harrison, you know, And
I think we're keeping it to wide receivers here, since
you know, I don't know if you can really afford
to trade one of those two guys without getting a
big time wide receiver in return. Since you've got like,
oh jeez, I didn't even notice that you've got Darnell

(01:07:58):
Mooney too. May try to ship Darnell Mooney for some
other piece I forgot.

Speaker 10 (01:08:03):
I had Moody on here.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Oh Man and Kyle Pitts. You've got Kyle Pitts too, Yeah,
I would. I would definitely like look to trade now
Mooney and Pats like that's overboard. I would try to
deal with those guys for other assets.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
I would in terms of the bench like the starter is, like,
I wouldn't worry about London Harrison with their teammates like there,
those guys are good enough that unless you're getting a
tree stud back. I I'm not really worried about the
team they play for.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
I just want the best players personally.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
None the bright side, you do not have any Falcons
among your IDP players, so that's a good thing.

Speaker 10 (01:08:41):
Well act Funnily enough, I had Matt Judah up until
the draft. The draft went through, and you know, I
ended up dropping Matt jude On to make room for
Abdul Carter.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
I think Judon is still unsigned, isn't he.

Speaker 10 (01:08:56):
Yeah, he's still registered a free agent. I would imagine
that where we were saying, like, focus a little more
on the bench guys Pits and Mooney, maybe yeah, I
wouldn't be looking, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
I wouldn't be looking to say, like, oh, who's like
an undervalued guy I can get for London or Harrison.
I would say, if I want to diversify from the teams,
I want it to be the guys that I don't
think are true studs. And I think, like, like, I
think there's a non zero chance Drake London is the
wide receiver one this year, and I just don't want
to Like, I'm not saying I would bet on that,

(01:09:30):
but he's that good and I just don't want to
be getting out of that business unless I'm getting an
absolute bona fide, no doubt about it, Like I know
this guy's a stud coming back to me.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
That's that would just be my approach.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
I wouldn't worry about like, oh man, I have bejan
En Panix and Pits and Mooney and London.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
What can I get for London?

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
I would say, oh man, I have all these guys,
let me just get something for Mooney and Pits.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
I wouldn't want to move off London.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Yeah, I think such London's a top ten Dynasty receiver
and Harrison is up there too, so you know, I'd
stay with those guys. And uh, you know he's hoping
Atlanta and the Cardinals are high flying offenses this year.
Block fact.

Speaker 10 (01:10:11):
Yeah, it was definitely on accident that I got gathered
all these players. Well, on the topic of Mooney, I know,
like in Dynasty, it's probably probably what wide receiver somewhere
between fifty and sixty five right now. I guess I'd
probably put him at like fifty five, and so I
know in that same range. Our guys like on my team,

(01:10:35):
Rashid Chaget, I think is in that same range, maybe
even a little bit higher. Is there anyone in that
range you'd be looking to get. I know my depth
at running back is a bit needy, but also there's
a super flex league, and my quarterback room isn't isn't
exactly knocking the socks off anyone.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
I like it. I mean receivers that are near him fits.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Sorry to cut you off, but like the Bateman, Cedric Tillman,
Kyle Williams is a few spots higher at least in
terms of our trade value chart.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
Those are something names around him. I like a lot
of those guys. Honestly.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Yeah, I don't know. If you're getting a quarterback for
Mooney or Pits or even a package of the two.
You might have to do something where you know you're
throwing in those guys plus a draft pick something if
you want to boost quarterback. But I don't know. I
think your quarterbacks are fine. Yeah, I wouldn't sweat the
QB position too much, but yeah, just a matter of
finding getting something, even if it's like future later picks

(01:11:31):
for Pits and Mooney. But you know, if you're ready
to contend now, maybe you want veteran players, and like,
I don't know, I think as long as you don't
aim too high. Use our value chart to find comparable
values and maybe find some tight end needy team in
your league that's willing to take a shot at Pitts,

(01:11:52):
provided it's someone who's not already completely disgusted with him.

Speaker 10 (01:11:58):
Yeah, it should be easy. I've had him for a
while now, so I don't think anyone well maybe maybe
if they don't have him another league. But in this league,
nobody's been burned but me.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
You've been hoarding the misery, gotcha?

Speaker 10 (01:12:12):
All right, thanks very much.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Guys, Thanks all right, thanks rock fact.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
All right, we've got one last hand raised here go Phils.
Thank you for your patience.

Speaker 4 (01:12:25):
Hey, guys, no problem, can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
Yes? Yeah? Hey, why have you hung in there? And
sorry about what my bros did? Your guys over the weekend.

Speaker 11 (01:12:34):
That's all right, it happens, man. I mean a twelve
team one or twelve team super flex PPR league. I
won the championship last year, so I'm looking to maintain
some momentum going in this year. I'm going to be
aggressive in terms of potentially giving up some draft capital
for some well from a win now approach. I had
the one twelve obviously, so I wanted to see if

(01:12:55):
I should face on my roster that I quit there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
Sorry if you can hear my daughter backup no worries.

Speaker 11 (01:13:01):
I wanted to see if there was if I should
look to move that one twelve for a guy, like
a second year guy wide receiver, got like a like
puer Saal or my biggest need at the moment is
seems to be running back. I have Jamie Mooarrenchuba Hubbard, Timy,
and Tracy, and then I have Benson trade Benson, So
I'm not sure if I should hold tight in the
draft and go after a scatbow to lock up that backfield,

(01:13:24):
or should I look to trade that one twelve for
more of a win now guy, whether it's receiver or
running back, because my receivers are okay, but you have
some questions around him coming back. And then Jane Reid
kind of fell off a cliff, so other than that,
I have some pretty solid options there. So I kind
of wanted to see what my approach should be going
into my draft next week picking up the one twelve

(01:13:44):
spot when coming off a championship with a win now approach,
and if there's any guys that you think makes sense
to target in terms of a trade to give up
some draft capital, if feel free to throw them out there,
or should I kind of just stay put and see
what I can come up with in the draft.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
I mean, the funny thing is we've got the one
twelve pick valued at forty six in super Flex, and
we've got Derrick Henry and Christian McCaffrey valued at forty seven. Yeah,
like one of those guys, would I mean, if I
could get one of those guys in a repeat bid
rather than like camp skataboo, Right, yeah, for sure. Yeah,

(01:14:23):
in the heart.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
If their managers are rebuilding teams, it's kind of a
no brainer, right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
It's just a matter of whether those guys who have
Henry and McCaffrey in your league are people who are
competing with you or they people who are sitting on
these assets, who aging running back assets on a team
that's not ready to win. So those would be two
names I would immediately be looking, you know, inquiring about,

(01:14:53):
and I don't know, maybe maybe Kyron two if that
owner is a little freaked out about the possibility of
you know, either like Korm or Darkwise Hunter cutting into
Kiren's playing time. That's kind of where i'd start. But
I'm you know, I'm I'm with you. Go, Phil's like

(01:15:14):
you've got to try to sell your soul a little
bit for the repeatment. Yeah, I know. One at one twelve.
I mean, like that's kind of a weird area anyway,
that's where guys like two first round tight ends and
Jackson Dart are typically going. And I'm cool with parting
with that pick to try to get a win now veteran.

Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 11 (01:15:35):
So basically prioritize running backs like an aging running back
when when now approach and then kind of see what
happens from there and if not, then try my look elsewhere.

Speaker 4 (01:15:45):
Would you pivot to a wide receiver.

Speaker 11 (01:15:47):
Some guy like a window guy, or would you kind
of want some running back options are kind of dwindled
from those guys you mentioned. Should I just kind of
pivot and focus.

Speaker 4 (01:15:56):
On the draft?

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Yeah, I mean piersol like is also another guy who's
right in line with the value of that one worm.
Would you rather have the one twelve or Piersaw?

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
I'd rather peer Saw. I think that's a good one.
I think I really like thrown out there. I think
for me, like because I think running backs a stronger need,
like trying to trade for one makes sense. If you
end up just kind of focusing on the draft and
a trade doesn't materialize for either running back or receiver,
I wouldn't force like Scataboo, I don't. I think that's

(01:16:28):
too early for Skataboo. So like in that situation, I
would say, listen, I could use a receiver as well.
Let me just take like Golden or Agbuca or whoever
it is that's there. That would kind of be my
focus rather than like I would just go BPA.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
Is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
If you end up keeping the pick, I wouldn't worry
about the position, But in trying to trade, that's where
I would really prioritize running back.

Speaker 11 (01:16:49):
So Kirvin's essentially that kind of cut off there in
terms of being a value from a one twelve pick.

Speaker 10 (01:16:55):
Is that what you guys think?

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
A couple other guys we have right around this same
value as one twelve, exact same value Terry McLaurin, and
he kind of fit what you're trying to do. Yeah,
j Moore is two points two points more of value
than the one twelve. Piersall was right there. Jalen Wattle
is three points more of value, but like H Terry McLaurin,

(01:17:18):
maybe even DK Metcalf if he's on a team that's
trying to rebuild.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
The The other thing you can do if you think
one of those guys will be there is you could
maybe trade. If you think this is doable, you could
try and trade a later pick from that twelve up
to maybe like the one nine or one ten, just
to say I'll take whichever of those top six running
backs falls to me there if you just want to
get kind of the younger guy at the position, if
you think that's doable with the guys who are a

(01:17:44):
few spots ahead of you, No.

Speaker 10 (01:17:46):
For sure.

Speaker 11 (01:17:46):
Yeah, I'll take a look at those rosters and then
take those guys into account and kind of use the
value strut there to kind of guide some values there.
So I really appreciate the insight. Thanks Roll all the help,
as always, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
All right, we'll go ahead and wrap up there or
fits we always go along on this. I shouldn't even
tell people this is going to be an hour anymore,
because we know it's getting closer to eighty or ninety minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
But it's okay, because we have a good time talking.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
To everybody and we really appreciate everybody sticking around, so
we'll go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
And wrap up there.

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
We'll keep this rolling every month like we do all
year long. For fits.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
I'm Ryan warmly thanks everybody for tuning in. We'll see
again next time. Thanks for listening to the Fantasy Pros
Dynasty Football Podcast. If you love the show, the best
freeway to support us is by leaving a positive review
on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, follow us on x, Instagram,
and TikTok at Fantasy pros At. Subscribe to our YouTube
channel at YouTube dot com slash Fantasy Pros

All Episodes

How Far Will Kyle Pitts Fall? | Dynasty Trade Block + Chat Q&A (Ep. 246)

Episode Transcript

Hosts And Creators

Pat Fitzmaurice

Scott Bogman

Popular Podcasts

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

Dateline NBC

Cold Case Files: Miami

.css-15opob5{left:0;position:absolute;top:0.8rem;} All Episodes

.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}How Far Will Kyle Pitts Fall? | Dynasty Trade Block + Chat Q&A (Ep. 246)