Omarion Hampton At 1.02? | Four Round Dynasty Superflex Rookie Mock Draft (Ep. 225) - FantasyPros Dynasty Football Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello, everybody, Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Dynasty Football Podcast.
I'm Ryan Warmley, joined not only by Pat Fitzmorris and
by Scott Bogman as per usual, but also by Jake Seely.
I don't know if this is your first time on
the Dynasty Feed, Jake, it's certainly your first time in
the Dynasty Feed with me, so thank you for hopping on.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yeah, of course this first time for this, this this
quad setup.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
How about that, Well, we'll have some fun with the
four of us. We're doing a super flex rookie mock
draft here. We are into April. We are about two
weeks away from the NFL Draft, so very very exciting time.
We want to throw out another rookie mock for everybody
before we hop in. Jake, what you got going on
at the Athletic Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Well, perfect timing because my rookie piece has been sitting
here waiting until next week because that Dame Bruglan guy.
I don't have to wait for Brugler to get his
beast out and I can't put mine out until it
comes out. So this is out my fantasy spin on
everything will be next week And as a little sneak preview.
I went a little crazy with the mash this year.
I just had a lot of fun with it. Like
almost every player is a mashup of two players.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
I saw you were tweeting earlier about Jamal Murray, but
not the basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Play, not the basketball player. So I came really close
and guessing it's a running back. But that, Yeah, that
was why I was at the car dealership. But we
don't even talk about that.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
We will move right fast that before we hop in
fits bogs, how you guys do. And we were just
talking Bogs about Houston, Florida in the title game. We've
been talking a lot about marsh Madness on these shows
and what a comeback.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah, I mean h Town. They are sad here in Htown.
I had a cousin that went to Houston. I had
an aunt that was a teacher there and went there,
So yeah, they are disappointed. That's a scarring loss too.
That's one that you just do not forget. It was,
you know, up late, brutal down the stretch in the
big choke job at the end too. So not so

(01:51):
much fun. But you know, d Backs and Orioles are
playing right now. We're enjoying the baseball season as well.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
So ready I.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Would have enjoying it so far as an Oriol fan.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
But well wait, I was going to talk about that
whole basketball description. Is going to say, are you talking
about Houston or Duke?

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Because that's well, yeah, moved by the choke, died by
the choke, right, I mean they just did that to
Duke and then had it happen to them.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
But we're ready for the draft. Let's go.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Well, fits, I don't want to ignore you too. Anything
you got going on, you're celebrating. I'm rocking the OV
sweater here today, new all time goals leader, nancel history.
Anything you want to hit on here quickly.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
Very nice. I was going to comment on your hockey sweater, worm.
I only wish I was there so I could, you know,
pull it over your head and get a few shots
in while you're uh, while you're blinded. But I'm excited.
As Jake mentioned Dan Brugler's out with the Beast, I'm
going to dive into that tonight. Very excited about that.
And uh, you know, my son just turned eighteen today. Wow,

(02:50):
yeah no more, no more miners house. That's kind of interesting.
And that's it. And the one year. I actually cheer
for Duke because they've got some local ties. They've got
a Milwaukee kid in their starting line up, kon K Nipple,
They've got a Chicago area coach, John Shire. And I
was a big Skrzyzewsky hater, and of course they choke
and cost me like three bracket pools. So what are

(03:11):
you gonna do?

Speaker 2 (03:12):
That'll teach you group for Duke.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, let lesson learned? All right, Well then that's enough.
Prologue Fits has got a run, so you can go
kick out his kid now that he's eighteen, and not
to take care of him anymore. I do it to
remind everybody that you can head to fantasypros dot com
slash rankings for all of our consensus twenty twenty five
rankings that includes dynasty and rookie rankings. Here as we are,
just like I said a couple of weeks away from

(03:35):
the NFL Draft, we're gonna be doing a four round
super flex rookie mox. We'll go a little quicker because
we've got a lot of picks to get through. We're
just gonna stick with the three analysts doing these picks.
I usually do picks on the show. I'm gonna just
host this one. So if anybody was really excited to
see what I had to think, wait till a future episode.
We're gonna go kind of alternate every three picks, so
Jake will be pick number one, then four, then seven.

(03:57):
Fits will be two, five, eight, Bogman three, and so
on and so forth. You're fine, let's dive right in.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Let's die right.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
At Jake Getts started with the one O one.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
I know, I don't like this one. I wanted the
two because somebody would makes the decision for me. But
even in a super flex, I will go, gend just hey,
there you go. I'll give you one of my smash ups.
I called him Bijon Dobbins. There you go for a
little cop there. The only concern I have is that
he doesn't make a ton of people miss, but who cares.
He's that elite that he grunts through him anyway, like

(04:33):
Gentd will be a top ten running back right out
of the gate. We've already talked. I don't need to
go too far. I Fits and I already talked with
you a few episodes ago about that we would even
consider potentially top five for him.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah, I mean this is one right, like Bogman, same thing.
We don't need to waste time here, Like gent's number one,
not making a case for a quarterback. So I feel
like I've asked the same question every time we've done
a rookie mock episode, and every time the answer is
the same, like, Yeah, you're not really making a case
for anybody else.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
No, maybe cam Ward in a different year, but not
this draft.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, all right, let's go to the number two pick,
where maybe gets a little more interesting.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
I'm gonna take Amaron Hampton, and I'm not totally smitten
with either cam Ward or with Tetoroa McMillan. So I'm
feeling pretty good about Omarion Hampton getting first round draft capital.
We've seen him connected to the Denver Broncos, which would
be a really nice setup for him if he does

(05:27):
go there. Sean Payton's backfield's always returned quite a bit
of running back fantasy value, so I'm sold on Hampton.
Powerful downhill runner with some surprising lateral agility. Tested really
well at the combine, or at least timed really well
at the combine. He's a pass catcher too. He's been
really productive as a receiver the last couple of years

(05:48):
in college. So Hampton at number two?

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Bogman, does that kind of raise your eyebrows a bit
seeing Hampton that high? I mean, I think the general
consensus has been either tet or one of the quarterbacks
at two, and Hampton's more that four or five range.
Or do you think it's pretty reasonable to have him
as the one oh two?

Speaker 4 (06:04):
No, I think it's fine.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
In a super flex maybe i'd question it over cam Ward,
but I think Hampton is so good he would be
at the top of most other running back rookie classes
if that's what you're looking for. I think he's more
of a sure thing than cam Ward, So I think
it's fine.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
What do you think, Jake on Hampton?

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, actually I could see it as well. I would
lean cam Ward, but I'm not going to call it crazy.
I'll give you another one. I tossed out brief Sharbonney.
That's my matchup for him, so I can give you
some more mashups already.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
All right, Fogman, you mentioned cam Ward. Is he your
pick at number three or are you going in a
different position?

Speaker 5 (06:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Pretty easy here for me. I'll go with cam Ward here,
you know, we're doing super Flex. I really think that
he is the one quarterback I'm going to trust to
be dropped in and started for the entire season this year.
I don't know that it doesn't mean that one of
the other guys can't do it, Sanders or Dart. I'm
just not one hundred percent sold that they will. So

(06:59):
for me, I think cam Ward starts from day one.
I think it's for Tennessee. I think the moves that
they've made have been set up obviously not the greatest
targets in Tennessee, but I think it'll get better throughout
this draft. I also think that cam Ward to me
is easily the best guy here, and it's because of
his You know, he does have the hero ball stuff

(07:20):
that Fits likes to talk about, but he can make
every throw he reads well. He really has a great
feel for the pocket. Now you know, his feet get
out from under him a little bit. He doesn't scramble
as much as he probably could. There are flaws there,
but I think he's pretty set in stone as a
starter from day one, So he's a pretty easy pick
here in a super Flex mark.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Listeners of this show already know how Fitz feels about
Shooter Sanders versus cam Ward Obviously we know how Bogman feels. Jake,
how do you feel about those too? Strictly as prospects,
not trying to gauge landing spot.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
I agree with the coward situation because if Sanders is
going to do it, he's gonna have to do like
a CJ. Stroud, and it's going to be mostly with
his arm. So if we're talking purely fantasy, whether you're
talk about the NFL prospect or not, I'm going to
go with somebody who has some rushing upside. And cam
wardan honestly, I mean you could see him kind of
put like a Kyler Murray esque type of season together,
even as a rookie. I mean I'd be ceiling, but

(08:11):
I mean he could do it. Sanders. I just even
if he started from day one, I just don't see
him coming out of the gate throwing four thousand yards
and thirty touchdowns to get QB one territory.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Jake, let's stick with you for the pick at the
one O four.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, I know, I know pass not a soul on this,
but if anybody watched the show when you and I
and he talked about it, I am on Teed McMillan.
I do think the comparison I made at that time
was kind of a Drake London. I saw somebody else
make that comparison online recently as well, and that's really
what it comes down to. I think he has that
kind of ability, but honestly, the Drake London situation kind
of tells you the risk, like he's not a guarantee

(08:46):
depending on where he goes and depending on the quarterback situation.
But I'm willing to take that gamble on somebody who
I do feel is the clear number one wide receiving
this draft list. I think there's two guys right on
his heels, but I'm willing to take that at four.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, Fits, we've talked a bit about McMillan. I think
you could justifiably make a case from as high as
one O two if you haven't need it. Receiver, Like
I'm I'm not really that interested in the narratives of
him dropping in the NFL draft. I just think he's
a really good player and I'll be really happy to
get him anywhere kind of in this range. Are you
kind of still feeling similarly to that.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
I would also take Tet if faced with the situation
Jake is facing here at one O four, Like, I
do think he probably is the best cure wide receiver
if we're considering Travis Hunter sort of a hybrid player
in this draft. While I don't think he is going
to be an alpha star receiver, I do think he's

(09:35):
kind of a T. Higgins type, Like he's a very good,
complimentary number two who could be, you know, a decent
number one option for some team if they have more
of an ensemble cast.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah, and Bogman just quickly on Tet like still wide
receiver one for you, like we're not because I know
there's been some talk about, like, well, if the Browns
take Hunter and they make him a full time receiver,
then Travis Hunter should be in this range as of now,
are you still taking Ted as that number one guy?

Speaker 4 (10:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (10:02):
I mean, let's see it. If that's what the Browns
do and they take Travis Hunter and make them wide out,
then fine, I'll move him up to one. But I
don't know that that's going to happen. So yeah, for me,
Ted is still the number one, and it's what these
guys said. I think he's good in either scenario. He
can go to a team and be a number one,
or he can be a t HIG and really be
a one B. You know, a lot of mocks have

(10:23):
him going to Dallas right now, and I think that
would be a really good fit for him because double
cover is going to be rolled the lamb and he
gets a lot of one on ones with that frame.
I think it worked very well for him.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Right, let's go to the one oh five fits here
on the clock.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
All right, I will take Shador Sanders here. I'm a
little worried about Shidhour landing in a spot where he
doesn't have a clear path of being a year one
starter at any point. That is my concern here. I
still prefer him to cam Ward. In terms of just
if I will an NFL G I'm looking for my
next quarterback, I would want Shadour Overward, and I think

(11:00):
might have the higher fantasy upside. He probably does have
the higher fantasy upside, but I feel like there is
a worse chance of Ward reaching his upside than there
is of Shadour. Like I think Shador has got a
pretty high floor, and the upside for Shadour might be
Jared Goff. But Jared Goff of twenty twenty four. If

(11:22):
you're getting that as your quarterback, that's not bad. A
guy who can really capably run an offense that doesn't
ask too much of him, Like he's just never going
to be a Mahomes Aaron Rodgers, you know, peek Aaron
Rodgers type who can win games by himself. But Shadoor
can very capably direct an offense and he is the

(11:45):
most accurate quarterback in this draft without question.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Now, Bogman, you're up at one oh six. Do you
see a bit of a tear break here from that
top five? I mean even within the top five obviously
genty kind of consensus one, but like after five, do
you feel a drop because you're I can see in
the sheet who you're taking here with the sixth pick,
and it might sound like a bit of a reach
some people at somebody that anybody who's listening to the
show will know you're very high on. But do you

(12:08):
see a gap between the top five and the rest
or do you think that these are still names that
you could conceivably make a case for inside the top five?

Speaker 3 (12:16):
I definitely do, And to me, it's the top four.
I don't put Sanders in it, and I like Sanders.
I think he's going to be fine, but I put
him at the bottom of the next tier. There's just
so many good running backs and there's a big grip
of decent wide receivers and a couple of really good
tight ends here too, So this next group is deep.

(12:36):
Just because I put Sanders at the bottom of it
doesn't mean I don't like him. I still think he's
very capable, and I think, as Pat mentioned, the floor
is insanely high on Sanders. I think the ceiling is
what you struggle with to know is he going to
be able to reach that? And if he does, what
is it? So to me, he's at the bottom of
this tier just because I like a lot of running
backs and whiteouts, and my pick here is going to

(12:57):
be Cam Skataboo, the running back from Arizona State.

Speaker 5 (13:01):
I know that.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
You know, he's dropped on a lot of people's boards.
There's some people flag planning.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
I am.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
I watched him tear up my longhorns and I'm almost
beat us single handedly. But I also watched a lot
of Arizona State. I'm from Arizona. I have a lot
of friends that went to ASU, so I got to
see a lot of Cam Skataboo, and it's just he
turns a three yard gain into a five yard gain
is seven and too a ten and a ten to
a twenty. So if he can get in the open field,
that is a question. I think the downside is pretty big,

(13:29):
but the ceiling is also insanely high for Cam. So
I'm a big fan of Skataboo and I will take
him in the first round.

Speaker 5 (13:37):
Can I ask Bogs a question about this? Peace? So, Bogs,
if you're sitting at one O six, like, if this
is a true rookie mock in or not rookie mock
but true rookie draft in one of your actual dynasty leagues.
I know you love Scatabo. You're sitting at one O six.
Do you try to trade down and get him a
little lighter and what spots are you trying to target to.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
I think the end of the first round is okay
because I think a lot of people don't put him
in the group with Treveon, with Quinn Shawn, with Caleb Johnson,
Tyler Warren, Matthew Golden. I think he's at the bottom
of that group for most people. So I think somewhere
between ten and twelve, if you can pick up an
extra pick in the third or in the fourth, whatever
and still get the guy that you like. I think

(14:20):
that's a good strategy. Win you're higher than the pack
on anybody at any point in the draft, to try
to move back and get your guys. So I think
that's a very smart thing for you to point out, FITZI,
and I think it's a strategy that everybody should employ
if they are like me and insanely high on cam Skataboo.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Jake, I do want to get your thoughts on Scataboo
quickly here, just because he is this is a big
reach relative to consensus ranking. Our staff rookie rankings have
him as twenty second overall and super flex. So obviously
at the sixth pick, that's pretty high. What do you
make of that pick?

Speaker 2 (14:53):
I don't mind it, and honestly it makes sense because
somebody I thought of to compare him to was Naje Harris.
And what is box like those Pittsburgh Steelers because it
takes on the contact but breaks through it. And I said,
my concern though, is that he turns into cam Acres.
So there's another smash up for you. Is Naje Acres
And if anybody's watching the video, when I laughed when
Pat said the Jared Golf thing, it wasn't laughing at

(15:14):
the fact that it's saying Jared Golf. It's the fact
that I mentioned three quarterbacks in my comp which is Gino,
Jared Golf, and Joe Burrow as like the peaks and
valleys for him. And that's why I laughed, as I
actually think that's a good example of what I was saying.
He has to do it all as a passer. But
I think the biggest takeaway I think we're all three
in lockstep is that if you're looking at the fifth, sixth,
seventh pick and you got like a tier clump of guys,

(15:36):
especially a tier that you have one that you're higher
on than everybody else, I would absolutely trade back and
my guy for like my next pick is I'm actually
really happy that Pat switched to Sanders, because anybody watched
that show that we did, Trey Henderson I actually have
in a tier one point five. I have Scataboo in
a big tier two of running backs. As mentioned Bob said,
it's a good draft class, but I do think Henderson's

(15:59):
just slightly on his own tier. If anybody didn't catch
that show. I just love that he's a rocket once
he touches the ball. I really do think he has
Top twenty upside, the downfall will be that somebody sees
him only as a time share. I will admit that,
like to go back to bog Steelers, like somebody might say,
we only want you to be Jalen Warren and touch
the ball forty forty five percent of the time. So
there is risk, but I'm hoping beyond my hope that

(16:22):
like I just think he's better than these guys, and
that he does end up on a team that's willing
to give him even two hundred and twenty two hundred
and forty touches, and I think Top twenty is in play.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah. Fits We've talked a lot about Henderson, obviously, just
we're both big ten guys, so watched a lot of
him in college, and I've been hoping that he wherever
he goes, even if it is a time share, which
I think is pretty likely, that it's more of a
Junior Gibbs type time share, not saying he's that same
level of player, but that type of usage as opposed
to maybe somebody like a Jalen Warren. Do you think

(16:52):
that's likely that he'll get the usage that we are
at least appreciative of as fantasy managers, or do you
think it will be a real frustration for him at
the NFL level.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
No, I do think it'll be part of a tag team,
But we get tag teams with two thirds three quarters
of the backfields in the NFL, so I don't think
it's a big deal. And if I was debating between
Shadour and Trey Henderson, and I'm holding the one oh
five in my most meaningful dynasty league, and I suspect

(17:23):
I will be debating between Shadoor Sanders and Trey Henderson
in that league too.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Well, speaking of time shares for Trevon Henderson fits that
you got here at one.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
Eight, I'm going to take his Buckeye tag team partner,
Quinhawn Judkins. And you know, Judkins might be one of
these guys who could potentially be used in a workhorse role.
I don't know that I'm going to count on that,
but it's possible he could end up in a landing spot.
And the great thing is worm I think Judkins is
going to go early in the second round, and that

(17:54):
potentially leaves a lot of really favorable landing spots. Maybe
the Raiders if they don't for genty in the first round,
maybe the Bears they have two fairly early second round picks.
There's some really attractive potential landing spots for Judkins. He
does profile a sort of a workhorse, not a prolific

(18:14):
pass catcher, but a capable one. And you know, ran
like a champ at the combine. I think that opened
some eyes, Like I think he timed a lot better
than people were expecting. So I'm a little more fired
up about him than I was maybe a month month
and a half ago.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Bagman Wich, Ohio State running back. Do you like better?

Speaker 4 (18:32):
Oh Man?

Speaker 3 (18:34):
I have quinch On Judkins just a little bit higher
than Traveon Henderson because he doesn't have the injury history
that Traveon Henderson has.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
Honestly, that's it.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
I also think that Judkins could probably take a little
bit more punishment than in Henderson because of his injury history.
But I mean that explosion, you know, just for the
guys that I watched, a Ton Henderson reminds me a
lot of Jamaal Charles, you know, I don't think he
has that type of upside. I don't know that many
guys do, but just that burst that he has in
the open field is crazy and no one is catching him.

(19:06):
And another guy I saw firsthand against my Longhorns in
the playoffs break a big one off on a screen pass.

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(19:32):
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Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with Caleb Johnson, and I'm gonna
make it a sweep of these really good running backs here.
I think you know this kind of ends a tear
as well. Caleble Johnson, hulking monster back that drags carriers
obviously has a lot of experience a ton of carries
last year for Iowa two hundred and forty fifteen hundred
and thirty seven yards knows for the twenty one scores.

(20:01):
I think the concern for Caleb Johnson with the people
that have concerns is obviously Iowa not a heavy passing offense,
doesn't have a big route tree, not very good at
were experienced, I guess I should say at pass blocking either.
He obviously has the frame to do it. So you know,
none of these guys come in perfect. But I do
think that he is a plug in and give this
dude fifteen touches a game at least, and I think

(20:25):
he could be leading your team whoever drafts him in
carries this season. So big fan of Caleb Johnson, and
I think you know, the running backs are very good,
still deeper into this class, but I do think this
ends a uh.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
I think this sends a tier.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Fitz, Was it the right move to go to the
fourth straight running back or would you started to consider
a different position at that point?

Speaker 5 (20:46):
Really tough call there. I certainly would have considered Caleb Johnson,
but I think you could have arguably gone in a
couple of different directions. I have no problems with the Caleb.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Pick, all right, let's go to the one ten jaker
on the clock.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
And this is where I would take the gamble on
Travis Hunter, because now you have some of the bigger
names that a tier off the board, and if you
know he does only play wide receiver or maybe a
handful of corner snaps instead of the other way around,
this is a win because when I was saying somebody
right on the heels of McMillan, one would be a Hunter.
And there's another one that we'll talk about at some
point later. But what it comes down to Hunter is like,

(21:22):
maybe some people are concerned about his frame, but I
think he has like peak Calvin Ridley season upside, honestly,
and on the right team. I saw that made Bog
smile over there, So I feel good about the fact that, like,
if he somehow plays the majority of the snaps at
wide receiver at ten, he's going to be a supreme value.
The only reason, as Bog said earlier, the only reason
we're not talking about in the first five picks and

(21:42):
the tier one is because we just don't know what
the team's going to do who drafts him.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
I mean, if we got some degree of certainty, Jake,
that he's going to be a full time receiver in
the NFL? Is he the second pick in rookie drafts?
Like how high is that? Is that ceiling just in
terms of where we're drafting him. If we have that certainty, I'd.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Still narrowly take McMillan, but I would open up the
conversation for Hunter to be the one. I would put
them basically one A, one B. If you want to
take one and argue with me or the other, I
wouldn't have a problem with it. So for me non
super flex, I'd say Gen D. McMillan, Hunter or Hunter McMillan,
whichever you want to go super flex. We already had
that conversation. I would still toss cam Orton to the mix,

(22:23):
but those would be my clear top four one way
or into another.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Bog mean, I feel like this is I think the
third one of these rookie bocks we've done, and I
think Hunter has gone in the third round, in one
of them, in the second round, and one of them
in the first round. In one of them, like kind
of all over the place, because it's almost a game
of chicken, right, like who it is going to take
the swing and believe that he's going to get enough
work to be useful.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
But I think over the last couple of weeks we've
heard more rumors that more teams have him as a
primary wide receiver on the board, So I think him
climbing up boards is not surprising when you take in
that context. But I mean, it's all This is why
I don't like doing drafts before the act NFL drafts.
I like doing my rookie drafts after the NFL Draft,
so I know where all these guys are, what the context,

(23:06):
the team context is, because it does matter for their
fantasy value so much obviously. But for Travis Hunter, if
you're making him a prime wide receiver, he goes to
number one. For me, I think Ted is very good.
I think he's in that same group with Ted right,
a very small group, but I would have Travis Hunter
at number one. I would love to see him put
everything into wide receiver for fantasy, but I think any

(23:28):
team that takes him should let him go both ways
just to see if he can do it.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
About a month ago, the one GM who came out
and said he saw Travis Hunter primarily as a wide
receiver was the Browns Chim Andrew Barry. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
So it was Barry who said that because he thought
the best attribute Travis Hunter had on either side of
the ball was just his ball skills, his ability to

(23:53):
play the ball. And you know, he thinks you get
to use that a lot more as a wide receiver
than as a quarterback. And now all of a sudden,
as we record this, Travis Hunter is minus three hundred
on DraftKings to be the number two overall pick. And
that's where the Browns are sitting. So that if they
only I think we should yeah, exactly, that's uh, that's

(24:15):
the one the rub there the.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Browns is the one I'll be most confident in the
receiver play. Like, even if other teams come out and say,
like we believe in him as a receiver, I just
feel that I can imagine myself in the first week
of May doing a real rookie draft just in the
back of my mind being a little bit worse. Like
it's hard to shake the idea of well that maybe
they try him out in training camp on both sides

(24:38):
and now they're splitting it, or maybe he pushes to
do it and he gets hurt because he's taking on
the extra workload. And reps, like, like, I do wonder
when I'm actually on the clock in these drafts if
I will have the stones to to actually, you know,
make a pick in the first round. But I mean,
obviously the talent is undeniable.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
We talked about this, like whether it just seems like
it's easier for a team to use him primarily as
a cornerback and give him partial snap to a wide
receiver if you're trying to limit his snaps on one
side of the ball, because if you're using him as
a full time wide receiver and part time as a cornerback,
suddenly some wide receiver is destroying your defense. And are

(25:16):
you gonna have the will power to say, nope, we
only use Travis on in dime packages. Like it's gonna
be really hard not to put him on the field
and have him go up against that corner or that
wide receiver.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
It's like Shanahan says with CMC every single year, Oh,
we're gonna limit his usage, We're gonna ratchet it back,
blah blah blah blah blah. Well they didn't do it ever,
and then he wound up missing most of last season, right, So.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Or it's just it's a tawny you want him as
the hitter, maybe you get him as the pitcher.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
Sure, right, exactly, Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
We'll see, we'll see. I mean, obviously where he goes
we'll play a lot into this in the sort of
quotes we start hearing early on after the draft. But
I mean, I love the pick, and I think it's
smart to be bold, especially once you get past that
like top tier guys. But I also, just knowing myself,
I think I might play scared a little bit when
it comes to Travis Hutter. All right, fits, let's go
to the one eleven.

Speaker 5 (26:04):
All right, I'll go with Tyler Warren here. I don't
think there's that much of a gap at all between
Tyler Warren and Colston Loveland. And I've even been tempted
to move Loveland ahead of Warren. But it does seem
like Warren has the better chance to go earlier. And
even though his production came kind of late in his
college career, he had an excuse. There were some really
good tight ends at Penn State ahead of him. The

(26:26):
way this guy just goes on a rampage when he
hits the ball, it's very kidt alesque. Not only that,
but he can throw on gadget plays, Penn State gave
him the ball and runs. There are a lot of
ways he can do damage for you in fantasy. So
I feel pretty good about him as a late first
round pick.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Jake, do you like Warren or Loveland better for fantasy?

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Honestly, this is another one A one B for me.
But I'm also and this might give opportunities to my
other draft mates here, I'm kind of out on both
just because I feel like there might be a little
shade from last year with what happened with Bowers. I'm
not disagreeing with fits at all, but I also look
at the production of Penn State and I'm kind of like,
you know, we just had THEO Johnson, which just talked

(27:08):
up the same we would just set the surprise of
Brenton strange and like he was behind both of them.
And I know he was behind both of them, but
a lot of the arguments were like, well Miles Sanders,
and like, well Miles Sanders turned out to be fun
for a year or two. I'm just worried he's not
any better than THEO Johnson. Honestly, So to say that,
like It's not a slight to Warren. It's more the
value of what you have to pay to get Warren
in Loveland this year, and that's probably why it would

(27:30):
be out on both. I don't think it's a bad pick.
I'm just not in on them this year.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
How dare you not better not better than THEO Johnson, Jake,
how dare.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
You in what way? Tell me?

Speaker 3 (27:43):
I mean, I just think the offense opened up because
Colton Nicki came in and Drew Aller took a big
step up. So I think you saw those other guys
playing in some bad offense. So so I think THEO.
Johnson's just straight up slow. So body control is great.
Don't think he has the speedd Tyler Warren has.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Okay, I'll give you that. THEO Johnson speed, So there
you go.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Deal Johnson WI speed would be probably be pretty good.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
But he's not proper.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
He's not nobody else, nobody is, Nobody is.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Again, I'm not hating on the pick, I'm just hating
on the value in my opinion of what's still on
the board of running back and wide receiver that is
completely it. I love he fits.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Bogman wrap up round one for us here.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
Well, it's tough.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
It's splitting hards between Matthew Golden and Luther Burton for me,
so I'm gonna go ahead and take my Texas guy,
not because he's a Texas guy, but because I do
think that the more mocks you see, the more of
these insiders you see talk, he's probably going to go
in the first round. If he goes in the first round,
he's probably going in the back end, which is towards
some better offenses. Right, if he gets past my Steelers, hopefully,

(28:43):
then you know where could he land. He could land
with the Chargers, he could land with the Rams or
the Ravens or the Commanders or the Bills or the Chiefs,
like there are just better options in the back end
of the first round for Matthew Golden in terms of
offenses to enter then you know, going to Tennessee or Cleveland,
where you know the it's just a question as to

(29:06):
who's going to be the quarterback, and it's probably going
to be a young guy regardless. So for that reason,
when we're splitting hairs between these white outs, I will
take Matthew Golden slightly ahead of Luther burn.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
I want to assure everyone that this is not going
to be a two hour episode. We're not going to
take We're not going to take over thirty minutes on
every round, So we will start to go a little
bit quicker the later into the draft we get. But
you know, obviously a lot is still interesting, like impactful
names are on the board. So you know, I apologize
for how long that took, but we'll we'll speed it
up here in the second half of the show. As

(29:37):
we've moved into round two, I do want to ask Jake,
you know, we're kind of in this stretch. We had
this stretch of running backs earlier. Now the stretch of
receivers is Matthew Golden, you're taking a receiver here at
two one. Fits is already written in the sheet. He's
taking a receiver at two two in this receiver stretch,
do you agree with Golden as the first guy off
the board or do you like the guy you are
going to take here? Even if you were picking around,

(29:59):
you know, a pick a and they were both available.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
So this is one where it's similar to Bogman earlier
with Skatboo is I'm kind of like higher than most,
mostly because my guy in the situation I'm looking at
Simon with McMillan, I'm looking more at twenty twenty three
and watching the guy play than twenty twenty four. Some
injury concerns and there's a big question. Bogwin's right. This
is I go back to what he said. This is

(30:22):
why I did the thumbs up. If anybody who's watching
the video is wait until the draft actually happens, because
if people are on board with the receiver, I'm about
the name, and he goes in Round one, kudos, I'm
bright on it. If not, Golden consensus wise does have
the higher draft stock, so I would say I'm with
him before the draft, but I have a feeling mine is,

(30:44):
and I'll just say it's like Luther Burden, like you said,
is Luthor Burden. I think I think he's just amazing
all around. And I'm not before anybody turns off your
show and like never wants me back. I'm just making
this comparison, just for the comparison. There was a wide
receiver a few years ago people are like, I don't
know if he can play outside, ends up being Justin Jefferson,
the best wide receiver arguably top one or two in

(31:06):
the NFL. I'm not saying Burden is justin Jefferson. I'm
just saying he can play outside, he can move around
because he's that elite on the field if he's one
hundred percent, I think Burden is in that top tier
for me with McMillan and Travis Hunter.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
So, Fitz, I'm curious your opinion out because these two
receivers just went off the board before you're about to
make another receiver pick here at two oho two. Are
you feeling like you're just taking the best guy that's
left or is the guy you're about to take? And
how to say it to Mecca Buka. Is he the
person you would have targeted, maybe even ahead of Golden
and Burden, or is he third in that group for you?

Speaker 5 (31:42):
Burden, Egbuca, Golden For me, I just I love the
upside with Burden. What he did as a sophomore at
Missouri was just phenomenal, and he is electric with the
ball in his hands. That's what I like about it.
I just I know what he can do with his speed.
I'm not as sure about Golden like and I don't

(32:04):
hate Golden. I just see him as more of an
early second than a late first. But it is. It
is a pretty close count. I think a lot of
people would parse these three receivers different ways. Agbuka throughout
his time in Ohio State, he was never the one guy.
But how many times was he the guy who slit
the other team's throat in a game? Like? He is

(32:25):
just such a high floor safe player, like I think
he's maybe the most bust proof receiver in the entire draft,
even maybe more so than Tat. I like him that
much as far as floor, but he's never going to
be your number one guy and never was in comin.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
And ask one question here real quick, FITZI if if
it was Eggbuca and Golden and Luther Burden and one
of them goes to the Chargers, one of them goes
to the Titans, when of them goes to the Browns,
does the name matter or A you're taking the Chargers
offense over the Browns and Titans offense.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
I don't know if those three teams are enough to
make me change the order that bogs.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
Okay, that's fair.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
You know, put put one of these guys with Patrick
Mahomes maybe even though there's a lot of target competition,
or with you know, a better I was.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Just looking for like a solid quarterback, like it's Herbert
versus Ward or whoever's going to be.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
I think that would make me lean a little bit,
even though I don't think they're passing as much these days.
That to answer your question, and you didn't ask me,
but that would make me lean a little bit towards
the break because I like, I have a tighter tier.
Like you said, I do have Burden, but it's not
so much of a gap for me that like, if
Burden was on the Titans versus one of those other two,
even yours on the Chargers, I would switch post draft.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Okay, yeah, that was that was basically what I was
asking because that's how I have them too. And if
Burden ends up in LA and it's you know, Golden
and Cleveland, then yeah, I'll take by.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
I would say, like the Chargers are one of those
teams that it would move the needle for me, like they're.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
The only thing I hate is that there's a little
bit of redundancy with lad there. So that's the only
like that's was my hesitation with it.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
You can play on the outside, just like justin Jefferson.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Oh yeah, he's justin Jefferson, forget about it.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Lad's dead, all right, Bogman two or three? You got yeah,
two of three, I'm I'm gonna take. I can't believe
I'm taking Fitzi's guy here, Coltson Lovelin. This is the
first time I've ever had a shot at him, because
it's always fits he taking him ahead of me. So
I get a chance to take one of the two
premiere tight ends in this class. Yes, he's not brock Bowers,

(34:27):
nobody is. Do not expect that from him. Tight End
is the toughest position to pin down in terms of
fantasy because these guys have so much more to learn.
But I think that Coltson Lovelin and Tyler Warren are
both guys that are primarily slot guys. You're drafting them
to be a weapon, You're not drafting them to be
an inline blocker. So I think these guys are gonna
be catching passes from day one. I think they're way

(34:49):
ahead of the rest of this class. So I think
you're getting a very good value at tight end here
and between the two of them, like we said, we're
splitting hairs. Give me the guy that goes later. That's
who I'll take between them.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
We already talked about the tight end, so we'll move
on from that one. In the name of time, Jake
got at two to four.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yeah, I mean this is one I'm a little bit
higher on too. It's funny when Bog said the teammate situation.
I keep making the argument that I don't think it's
clear that we don't know that Isaiah Bond might not
be the better wide receiver. This is somebody had injuries,
this is somebody who drew. They like everybody keeps wanting
to find the next Deebo Samuel, and like, let's chill
on that. That Deebo Samuel season is not even anything

(35:29):
that exists again, even for Deebo Samuel. But let's even
just take okay, Deebo Samuel with eight nine hundred receiving
yards maybe two hundred on the ground, and it's not
that I even think he's gonna get potential carries at
the backfield held though he can be used and was
used as such. I just think he's that dynamic with
the ball that pre injury. Their numbers Bond and Golden

(35:50):
were very similar until he had that high ankle sprain
and then was never the same for the rest of
the season, including the BCS or of PCs. They should
changing myself there. I know the playoffs out there, but
I just think that Bond, if one hundred percent, is
in the conversation to potentially be the better wide receiver.
So similar to what he just said about Lovelin, I'm

(36:12):
actually going to take the cheaper one, and I think
I'm gonna end up with a lot of Bond at
least pre draft fits.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
We know where Bogwin stands because he already made his
pick of the Texas receivers. First, do you feel like
there's a gap between Golden and Bond. I know that
you like Golden better. Do you see it as a
wide gap or can you kind of see the case
that maybe Bond's better?

Speaker 5 (36:33):
Kind of a big gap And I'm probably below consensus
on both guys, and I'm just not a Bond fan.
I'm probably not going to have him in a league
no offense shake, but I just I feel like it's
empty speed.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
I don't know, we could be all wrong about things.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
I'm not all right if it's two to five.

Speaker 5 (36:50):
Like I'm not a Jackson dark guy, but I think
there's value here because I think there's a very good
chance he's going to go in the first round, and
he runs like I have legitimate question about whether he
reads the field and is accurate enough to be a
starting quarterback long term, But at this point, to get
a first round quarterback who runs in the second round

(37:12):
of a rookie super flex draft, I think there's valid
I was.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Gonna say, if he goes in the first round of
the NFL draft, this, this is too late for him
right in a super FlexE like, I think, so, yeah,
where do you think he should go if he gets
first round draft.

Speaker 5 (37:24):
Capital, probably somewhere back into the first round.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
I think I would take him over Matthew Golden if
he went in the first round, for sure. I think
i'd take him in that group if you're a quarterback
needy team in superflex and the fact that he runs
too like, I think you can make a case as
early as like six or seven. I'm not saying that's
where I would rank him, but I think you can
make a case that if he gets first round draft capital,
and you know, again, what's the.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
Earliest he goes.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
In the NFL Draft or a rookie NFL draft. I
think New Orleans I mean, that's like the earliest he
unless you know, I guess there could be craziness at
the top, like there always is. But I think like
New Orleans would be a little bit surprising because they
have car and they have so many cap issues and
all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
But they're last year was miser him go.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
To the Raiders like that. They they pull in a
balance on us.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
We well, we talked in a recent episode, uh one
of these mock draft episodes about how he is, Like, like,
I want to learn the lesson of last year where
Boonix and Michael Pennix and a lot of my rookie
superflex real drafts were going in the second round because
people weren't the biggest fan of them, but they got
the first round draft capital. There was, in their own

(38:39):
different ways, a path to starting and now they look
like real values as second round picks in those drafts.
So like, if Dart is a first round NFL quarterback,
I don't want to let him get to the second
round in a super flex rookie draft where he goes
in the first round. You know, maybe that's more up
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the clock with the two six.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
Yeah, I'm gonna go.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
I do see a tear break here, by the way,
But I'm gonna go with one of my favorite whiteouts
in this class, Shaden Higgins, the big monster wide receiver
out of Iowa State, A guy that is big enough
and fast enough to be imposing and makes those contested
catches as well. I think he's gonna be a first
down magnet in the NFL whoever drafts him, and he

(40:22):
could easily be a high possession receiver. And the frame
is enormous, so he should be in line for some
jump balls near the goal line as well.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
So you add all that up.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
There's a couple guys like that right here, but Higgins
is my favorite, so I will go with him.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Yeah, I like Higgins. Jake, any quick thoughts on Higgins
before we get to your.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Pick, I'll just give you my smashup. I called him
Marvin Jones. Dante Montcreef seialing him for so Marvin Montcreef,
there you go.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Marvin Montgreef. All right, two seven, Jakeer you got.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
So you know, we just know I know that everybody
probably saw the tweet where the last five years, what
is it, nine percent of the players and vite to
the draft get drafted in the first round and Jalen
Monroe got drafted or drafted. I would love to say
that as of today, he got invited, and I'm not
saying he's guaranteed to be first round. Might be a second,
but I'm willing to At this point we are in

(41:14):
a super flex. I would not be taking him if
it wasn't the risk is that he's not even an
NFL quarterback at any point. To jokingly give you another
smash up, called him Jaden Mariota because I think Jayden
Daniel's rookie season might and his rookie season might be
his peak, that might be his best we ever see
for Milroe to just to get to Jaden Daniels rookie season,

(41:35):
but that rushing upside we play fantasy is beyond tantalizing.
If he hits as a quarterback. We just saw with ANTHONYA. Richardson.
You can suck and suck and suck and suck as
a passer, but in fantasy, it's like cool, You're still
somehow a QB one. So I'd be willing to take
that gamble here only because it's a super.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Flex fits just quickly Jaln Milroe in a super flex
mid second round. Does that sound right to you?

Speaker 5 (41:59):
Yes? If not higher, Like the rushing potential he has
is potentially difference making. And I think the concerns about
his passing might be overplayed a little bit. I know
he had a bad week at the Senior Ball, but
as someone who had to watch Jalen Milroe rip my
Wisconsin Badgers to shreds, like, I think he can actually throw.

(42:19):
And I know he had a really good game against
Georgia too, so he might be a better passer than
he's getting credit for. He's got the arm strength is
top notch. So yeah, I like him a lot. Like
I don't think there's much of a gap between Darton
Milroe fits.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
You are on the clock with the two eight. We
have not had a running back drafted since the one
oh nine. It's been a long stretch without them in
the step class. You're going to go back to the
well here though.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
R J.

Speaker 5 (42:44):
Harvey of UCF, and there's some receivers I like here too.
But and Matt Kelly kind of made this point with
Boggs and I last week when he was a guest
on The Dynasty Show, lean into the RB strength in
this class when in doubt take take the running back
over anyone else. And you know, I just I like
Harvey's game quick, his jump cuts are just phenomenal, really

(43:07):
good vision. I think he's pretty underrated, and I know
he's kind of an older prospect. I think he's gonna
be twenty He's either twenty four now or will be
twenty four this season. I don't really care running back
because we're looking at the first three years and you know,
anything you get beyond that.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
As gravy Jake is r J. Harvey the right running
back for after that top five close.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
I initially had him in my Tier two and knocked
him out a little bit. Just some of my concerns
about him is already stated. I think my issue is
that he might be Duke Johnson at best. And that's like,
of course, not a fault, for there's a lot of
Duke Johnson stands out there, but that the NFL, just
because how deep this class is just gonna be like
you're stuck your entire career, You're just gonna be stuck.

(43:51):
Is that change of pays pass catching option, which is
going to conversely when we get to my pick ten.
Sounded a little hypocritical, but that's just my concern with Harvey.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
There are a lot of Duke Johnson stands out there,
for the record, is a weird number of them. Bogman
to a nine.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Yeah, I'm gonna go back to the wide receivers here.
I'm going with the Lka Manor. I like him almost
as much as I like Higgins, maybe just a little
bit less. Another very productive wide receiver with some horrible
quarterback play at Stanford. I mean, you know, a thousand
yards and twenty three eight hundred and thirty one six
touchdowns in each of those games, or in each of

(44:30):
those seasons as well. So I would love to see
him paired with a good quarterback to see what his
absolute ceiling is here. But a guy with size and
speed and just muscles the ball away from people, just
a bulldog out there, a lot of fun to watch,
good motor. Obviously a smart guy went to Stanford, So
I like aa Manor here.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Jake, let's get to the running back that you were
alluding to here at the two ten.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yeah, Like I said, It's gonna sound hypocritical, but I'll
take Dylan Samson. He is a tier higher than me.
Think there is more of a likelihood that the team
looking at him seems kind of like that James White potential,
where like, we're gonna make sure that you're involved, We're
gonna make sure you are the pass catching option, the
elite option in that game side of the game in
a time share situation. So I think out of the gate,

(45:16):
at least in my opinion. Again, we're nitpicking with some
of these running backs, and I am in tier two. R. J.
Harvey's in Tier three, and I might be wrong about that. Again, well,
I'm not one hundred percent with these things. I just
think there's more of a guarantee that for me, it
just feels like a team drafting is gonna be like
your our day one time share piece like RJ. Harvey
might be like the you get a few break class
in case of emergency and then okay, like a JD.

(45:37):
McKissick is another name that came to mind for him,
where I see there's a little bit more of a
James White for Dalan Samson. Again, nitpicky, but you can
see why I kind of have that difference.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
I really like Sampson honestly, Bogman, I'm curious who you
would prefer out of those two, since you kind of
made the pick, you know, splitting the difference between Harvey
and Samson. I like them both for sure. They're probably
six and seven in the class. For me, running backs
either of them in the back half of round two,
I'd be pretty happy with. I tend to lean a
little bit more towards Sampson, Bagman, who do you prefer

(46:06):
out of those two?

Speaker 3 (46:07):
I have Harvey one spot ahead of Samson, so I
think the my concern with Sampson is that he's Devin Singletary.
You know, he has more wiggle, I think than Singletary.
Does he have that getaway speed? I'm the shore, but
he definitely makes a lot of guys miss, But so
does Harvey. I think the concern with Harvey as size
a little bit, so I don't have him. I know,

(46:28):
like Matthew Kelly last week, Fitz mentioned was real big
on Harvey. I know Deebro's really big on Harvey as well.
I'm not there, but I'm not a hater by any
stretch of the imagination.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
So those guys both.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
I feel like there's big fan clubs and haters for
both of those running backs. By the way, I feel
like there's like we're setting up camps one way or
the other. Fitz, are you kind of feeling the same
with those Arby's, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (46:52):
I mean I had at one point I had Dylan
Sampson ranked ahead of R. J. Harvey and flip flopped them.
And there are about five or six running backs in
this range who I have jammed pretty tightly together in
one tier.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Let the draft capital tell you, because if it's Simpson
Sampson goes in round five, Harvey goes in round three,
that tells you what the team thinking drafting both are
so like, let's be different than cluster that is this
running back group. Just let that be the tell again
once again, Boggin, that's three times. Now wait for the
draft until you take your I please.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
And we've got we've got a couple more running backs
coming off the board here at round out round two. Fits.
Who do you have with the eleventh pick this round?

Speaker 5 (47:33):
Devin Neil of Kansas really smart, productive runner who also
catches passes. I could see him used as a committee back.
I could see him use just a third down back.
Every time I watched Kansas, I was really impressed by
Devin Neil.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
And then with the twelfth pick, like Dogman, I'm gonna
go with DJ Giddons, bigger back. I like him better
than all the guys we just mentioned here. I think
he can catch the botto the backfield too. Consistent producer
at k State. Think he averaged over one hundred yards
per game and is whatever twenty four to twenty five,
twenty six starts, something like that. So just a lot
of production we've seen him do before, and he can

(48:09):
take more carries than a lot of these guys. So
I'll go with Kittens here at the end before.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
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All right, guys, we've got two rounds left. Like I said,
we will go a little bit quicker here the later
we get into this thing. Jake three to Zho one.
Who are you taking?

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Yeah, I'm gonna go Jack Besh. I think that the
easy easy from so many people comp is Adam Thalin.
But I also think that's what makes them so smart
and so reliable, that they can immediately step in as
some way's number two play more insight than out, but
that he can be like even Jervis Landry from day one.
I think that he has that opportunity on the right team.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Yeah, I really like Besh, especially like getting him in
the third round, I think is rip. I mean this
this class is deep. It's maybe not as top heavy
as last year, but there are names on the board
that I still really like, truthfully, and well into the
third round here, maybe even into the fourth. Fits three
to oh two. Where are you going?

Speaker 5 (49:21):
Damien Martinez running back Miami. Productive first at Oregon State,
then at Miami last year. He's a big pack who
almost runs like a scatbag at times, Like he's really
elusive for a bigger dude, and like every time I
watch him, I I kind of marveled at how hard
it was for defenders to hit him squarely. And in

(49:44):
that regard, he reminds me just a little bit of
Levey on Bell when he was at Michigan State.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Wow, that's that's high praise, Bobman three oh three A
pick that Jefferson.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
And on the site, they're all coming here.

Speaker 5 (50:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
Trey Harris for me, the wide receiver utal ole miss good,
deep threat, probably not as fast as people want, but
good tracking the ball, good at making contested catches, great
with the ball in his hands as well. Had some
injuries last year. I think that's why he's fallen down
the boards a little bit.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
This is a pick that Debro will love. Debro Jake,
I don't know if you're aware of this. We've talked
about it a bit on the show. Debroys Trey Harris
as his ninth player in super Flex rookie rankings. Do
you see the case for where Debro is coming from
the obviously he's not here to defend his kind of
outlier ranking in the show. Do you say the case?
What you don't?

Speaker 2 (50:34):
I So this is a mashup of Romeo Dobbs and
Alec Pierce for me, so I'm a little bit lower.
I think there's an opportunity on the right team, but
I think he's going to be and we're talking about
third round. A lot of these players are going to
be I think he's gonna be offensive dependent. I think
on the wrong team, we're not even gonna be considering
him in fantasy for a year or two or even three.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Fitz, what do you think just quickly about that high
ranking from Debro on Harris.

Speaker 5 (50:55):
We have argued about that Debro and I, you know,
I see he's not that fast. I worry about his
ability to separate at the NFL.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Level three h four Jake on the clock.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
I love it. I've debated two players here and one
was I was kind of going for team makeup because
I have two wide receivers already. I wrote Trevor Etn
And it's funny earlier when Bog said Singletary, that's actually
one of the names that came to mind for Trevor Etn.
I like his ability to cut and slip through, but
there is the concern that there are limitations to his game.
He's not as explosive as his brother. So I think

(51:28):
at this spot I'm willing to take a gamble on
ETN that maybe a team gives him a time share
at the gate, and maybe it's even the lead of
the time share.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
I don't think Etn is somebody we've talked about a
ton in these mocks. Bogman, what do you think about him?

Speaker 3 (51:41):
He's okay, Honestly, I haven't done a full write up
on Etn yet. She's just been banged up a lot,
so switched different school, so I don't know. He's just
been wildly inconsistent. You can see the upside there. I
just don't know how much field time he's going to get.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Fits. You're taking yet another running back here. That's a
few in a row for you, you know, obviously for
these different teams. Who are you going with here? At
three or five?

Speaker 5 (52:05):
And I'm surprised he's still around the way he melted
stopwatches at the combine, ba shoal touton, Yeah, I mean,
like I do think some people are sort of double
counting the speed. That is why we liked his prospect
profile going into the combine. Then he did what everyone
knew he was going to do. He ran really fast.
There is a potential for him to be a very

(52:28):
productive right away because of the speed. I don't think
he's going to have a huge role in an offense,
but I do think he's going to be an effective
part time contributor.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Jake, what do you make of Tuton? Just because I
think he is somebody that fell, not like a drastic
fall here, but I do think I agree with it.
You went a little later than I expected. Give him
the speed? What do you make of Tuton?

Speaker 2 (52:47):
So i''m looking right, I'm in the same tier of
like atn get Ins Gordon, who I don't even love.
But like, my biggest concern is that for all of
his speed, and like Fist said, maybe he's getting double
counter for that, he just hesitates too much. If you
stop hesitating Touton, I would have him much higher. But
I just think for his like, I don't know if
he's in his own head, but like, just go, dude,

(53:07):
you have the speed. Why are you dancing behind the
line of scrimmage and then getting tackled for losses?

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Willie Parker syndrome right there, Yeah, I saw a lot
of dancing behind the line for Willie Parker. I'm gonna
go with Eli Arroyo. You know, the tight ends. There
are some decent ones here. There's two that I still like,
probably three or four that I would draft in rookie drafts.
But Elia Royo not a ton of college production. I

(53:33):
think he had few of the fifty catches in his
collegiate career here, but just an explosive playmaker when the
ball is in his hands, he is incredible, high, high motor,
always is doing something. Not the best blocker. I mean,
he started his career pretty skinny as a whiteout, so
he bulked up to get into this position, to play

(53:54):
this position, and I mean he leaves it all out there,
so a bit of a ball of clay. But I
still like a lot of what a Royal does.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Jake is on the clock with a three oh seven
and he is about to make the pick of the
entire draft, the pick.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
With Tie Felton. I know you're gonna be excited about
this one. Look, everybody's excited about Golden and what he ran,
and everybody remembers Xavier Worthy. Well, okay, why not Felton.
And I know he has the consideration of you know,
he's going to be a Day one starter on the
right team. Also, the downside is potentially like a Darius
Slayton type. But if you like that speed, if you
like the fact that he puts corners on their heels

(54:28):
almost immediately and stacks them so well and gets downfield
for the big plays. I mean, I'm thinking worst case scenario,
you're talking about a wide receiver five with the boomer
bust every single week would be frustrating. But I mean,
maybe even on the right team he turns into Deshaun
Jackson as a rookie. I just think he has that potential.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
I was worried that he wasn't going to go high
enough with me not making picks on this show. So
I appreciate you representing the Felton cruise very strong there, Fits.
I know you're devastated that Felton is not available for
you here at the threeh eight, So where are you
going instead?

Speaker 5 (54:57):
I had to let Jake make a new best friend,
so I didn't want to stand in his way. I'm
gonna go with Jalen Knowle here, and I feel pretty
good about getting Noel in the latter part of the
third round, considering I've spent the better part of the
pre draft process trying to figure out which of Jaden
Higgins or Jalen Nole I like more. I get two

(55:18):
very different flavors with the two Iowa State receivers, but
now Noel. I think it was maybe JJ Zach Reason
who comped him to Randall Cobb, and I sort of
liked that cop just a little playmaker, and I think
he's got kind of a high floor for fantasy.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
I had Cobb in. I called him Rondell Rondel Morris
slash Randall Cobbs and Rondell Cops. There you go.

Speaker 5 (55:38):
That is floor ceiling right there. Man.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
I think I think he's a great pick at this
point and to the point of how deep it is.
I mean again, like Felton the Nooll back to back
in the second half of round three in a rookie draft, Like,
I think those are both Excelllympics honestly, Bogman three nine.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
Yeah, for whatever reason, I thought Knowle was gone when
I took a Royo, so I do have I have
them in the same tier, but I have no higher
so I would have taken him. For me, I'm going
to go with Jalen Royals, the wide receiver out of
Utah State. Another guy that is developing like a crazy
fan base here. Just a small school guy put up
big numbers at Utah State, but just I mean has

(56:18):
all the physical tools to be very very good. I
think we questioned the competition that he played obviously, but
I think this guy can come in as a third
round pick, fourth round pick potentially in the NFL Draft
and be a big contributor immediately. I think him going
somewhere where they're desperate for a wide out like New
England or something would be outstanding.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Let's go to the three ten Jake.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Yeah. I actually I would have considered Royals if he
was still there. So I'm just going to go back
to speed all this. This ten team might not have
a player come Day one between Travis Hunter, Dylan Samson
and the wrong team and Tess Johnson, who might get
murdered on the first play, because your best case scenario,
you're hoping for kind of a tank Dell, but he
might be Kadarius Tony the bad side of things where
you have to manufacture touches and he Baylor sees the

(57:04):
field because he is small and he struggles obviously versus
strong corners. But that speed for days and on the
right team again, might have to be manufactured touches, but
I think you could have some wide receiver three or
four upside. But it's a risky pick. Let's be admitted
about that.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Fit's what do you think about that Tes Johnson pick?

Speaker 5 (57:21):
Boy, it's another one of those things where yes, like
I wanted to see him run a much better time
than he did, but like, he's not a bad football player,
so reasonable shot in a reasonable time in a rookie
draft to take a shot at Tes Johnson.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Who are you taking with the three to eleven?

Speaker 5 (57:38):
I am going to take Mason Taylor, the tight end
from LSU. And you know, I like Mason Taylor well
enough as a tight end prospect. But then I see
where Daniel Jeremiah and Dane Brugler have him in their
prospect rankings, and like, he's a top fifty prospect for
both of those guys, maybe even top forty I think

(58:01):
overall of any position. So they might even be seeing
something in Mason Taylor that I'm not quite seeing. And
I do like Taylor good bloodlines. By the way, the
son of former Miami Dolphin sach artist Jason.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Taylor, Bogman. Let's go to the three to twelve to
wrap up the third round.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
Yeah, I'm a really big fan of this guy, Pat
Bryant out of Illinois, big kid, six'. Two it's like
a first, down auto first down every time they throw
him the. Ball he's got a huge frame to box,
out huge catch radius as. Well the, motor the motor
on anything he does is insane, blocking catching ball in his.
Hands motor, motor, motor motor. Motors SO i really respect

(58:42):
the work ethic AND i think he's a very good.

Speaker 4 (58:44):
Athlete so let's go With Pat bryant.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Here we've got one more round to go, here not
necessarily lightning, round but we'll move pretty quickly through these
last twelve. Names jake cud you have at four oh.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
One, yeah a little bit of a sleepers to getting
more late hype In Jayden blue and the running, back
mostly BECAUSE i think it's obviously limited of, visibility BUT
i think you could get what we Hoped Keaton mitchell should,
be or maybe what we got From Tarik cohen back
in twenty, eighteen and if, so you're talking About Treek
cohen was AN rb two that, year but obviously more
in a pass catching. Situation half of full point bbr.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Fits To Arseni food Two.

Speaker 5 (59:20):
Harold fannin, junior the tight end From Bowling, Green AND
i don't know If fannin's going to play on every.
Down you, know he's kind of a moved tight, end
but one hundred and seventeen catches for fifteen hundred and
fifty five yards last year in, College, like this guy
can catch the football and do business after the catch.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Bagman i'm going to go With Brashard, smith the running
back FROM. Smu converted wide, receiver still working on, it
but showed a lot of very good flashes AT smu last.
Year so he comes in as a bit of a,
project so you have to understand that if you're drafting.
Him but you, know there are plenty of guys that
switched to running back late in the process and we're,
very very good at, it and he seems to be
one of. Them so we'll go With sharsmith THAT i ask.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Him you, Here, jake you're up with the four oh.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Four, Yeah zavier With. TRESTPO i think he's getting a
lot of hate for his time and obviously is, testing
BUT i think it is in that conversation with like
A Jack Basher Pat bryant THAT i think is just
getting way too much hate for what happened with his
with his running.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Fits your up with the four to Five jark.

Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
Quiz hunter the running back From auburn just really productive
against big time. Competition, Man that's how deep the running
back class. Is there are some years WHERE i Think
hunter would easily be a top ten, back and, LIKE
i don't think anyone has him in their top ten this.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Year Shotsa josh Our dev who has been Mentioning hunter
for a long, while actually shout him out every time
he gets picked on one of these. Box If i'm
The felton, guy he's The hunter. Guy shots To Josh
bogman four. Six you're.

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
Up this one's kind of, difficult But i'll take the.
Risk let's go with.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Save On, WILLIAMS i think he is Exactly Quinton, johnston
which you, Know Quentin johnston all the athleticism to be
a first round, pick but uh just.

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
Steal frying pan.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
Hand so Hopefully williams can work on, that BECAUSE i
mean the, speed the, size the, LENGTH i, mean this
dude has got it. All it's just you, know if the,
parishes don't go. Off what's the, point, Right so work
on the hands and if the hands could come, AROUND
i think he's gonna be worth way more than.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
This let's go To jake for the four oh.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Seven, yeah at this Point i'll Take Ali. GORDON i
know there's a lot of concern about, dude just stay
on your. Feet BUT i, mean if you're talking about
the speed that comes with the, SIZE i think on
the right team as a, lead hopefully kind of like
The Latavious murray, TYPE i think we could FIND rb
two or three value on the right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Team fits your up with the four oh.

Speaker 5 (01:01:44):
Eight Jordan james Of, oregon WHO i think he just
turned twenty. One yet another guy who like put up
good numbers against big time competition in The big. Ten
just a really decisive inside runner who just sees the
hole and then are just through. It so another testament
to how deep this running back class.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Is bogman four h.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Nine, yeah it's gonna Be Kyle, williams wide receiver out
Of Washington. STATE i think he's probably gonna go in
the third. Round just extremely. FAST i do think he
might be stuck as a slot guy because of his
size and you know the fact that these corners in
THE nfl are gonna be way moay more. Physical SO

(01:02:26):
i think he's probably gonna be stuck in a certain,
role BUT i think he can perfect. It there's plenty
of slot guys with tons of, values so Like Kyle,
williams get in getting him.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Here one pick left for each of, you, Guys, jake
who's your last pick in this?

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
MOCK a very similar running back and it just takes
the right team to like. Him Raheem sanders good, size
good speed. Mix obviously the injury changed a lot for
him in. College but if somebody sees more of what
potentially could be Like Carlos, hyde which again would be
super peak value for. Him but there's a chance he's
also Only Marlon MACK i think at this, point and
depending on who takes the gamble on him in THE nfl,

(01:03:00):
draft he could have some.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Appeal, FITZ i do want to pause On sanders for a.
Moment it's because he's somebody who had a lot of.
Pedigree you, know in the last couple of years before this,
season was considered like a potential first round pick in rookie.
Drafts obviously has fallen a bit or, SIGNIFICANTLY i should,
say not just a bit in terms of his. Stock
but what do you make Of sanders at this?

Speaker 5 (01:03:19):
Point LIKE i thought he was going to be a
star early in his, career back when he was like
what At? Arkansas it just like the size. Man this
is a good class for big. Backs one of those
guys who would not shock me at all if he
wound up playing a prominent role, somewhere and here he
is going in the back end of the fourth.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Round, bogwin just any quick thoughts On Raheem, Sanders.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
YEAH i, mean big physical.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
BACK i think you, know worst case scenario is he
ends up as a goal line back or a short yardage,
back and but upside is a guy that can take
a ton of, Work SO i think he's a good value.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Here all.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Right fits the eleventh pick in the fourth.

Speaker 5 (01:04:00):
Round speaking of big, Backs Taj, brooks running Back Texas,
tech goes about two hundred and thirty pounds and this
dude can. Thump he's shown he can handle a big
load and maybe one of the best pass blocking backs
in the, class which doesn't get us fantasy, points but
does keep you on the field in THE.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
Nfl bogman has been itching to make another homer. Pick
so take us home here with your last, Pick Quinn.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
Ewers this is a super flex, guys Quin.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
YEARS i, mean, honestly you could take any of the
quarterbacks that are left. Here it's, yours It's, howard It's,
gabriel you know that, group even Maybe Riley leonard if
you like him as. Well BUT i Think Quinn ewers
is my.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Guy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
OBVIOUSLY i think he has all the tools to make
all the throws and be a good. Quarterback my question
for him is can he stay on the field right
been banged up the last two. Seasons they're huge issues
and you have to be on the. Field avail availability
is the best. Ability that is a old scouting trope
that has been shouted. Forever so If quinn can stay

(01:05:04):
on the, FIELD i think there's a chance he could
be a better pro than he was a college. Player
and he's pretty good in.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
COLLEGE i didn't smash him. UP i just said he
could be really Good Sam donald or really Bad Sam.
Darnald So i'm with you on this on this value.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Box the smash up is Good Sam donald and bad.

Speaker 5 (01:05:20):
End of.

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
Career Ben roethlisberger's WHAT i see WITH.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
I want to wrap up just very quickly with kind
of overall. Thoughts this is the deepest we've gone on
any of these mocks so. Far so if it's now
that we're kind of getting into round four and really
deeper into the. Class any kind of final parting thoughts
here on this.

Speaker 5 (01:05:35):
Mock, yeah we're just we're seeing the ridiculous depth of
this running back class when we go four rounds and
don't even have a guy Like Kyle. MANONGAI i Know
box AND i love who's just like he doesn't catch,
passes but, man he is just a Little tasmanian. Devil and,

(01:05:56):
yeah like there were a couple other Guy MARK. Kelll, Mullings, Max,
yeah like.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
McQuinn, ALLEN i would, say, yes.

Speaker 5 (01:06:05):
A guy who was a ready made pass catching, Back Donovan.
Edwards like this draft class is just lousy with running.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Backs any other kind of parting thoughts? Here?

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
Boggling, YEAH i MEAN i, think, UH i think nol
was the best value in this draft. Here great work, THERE.
FITZI i wish there were more quarterbacks to pick. From you,
know there's a big group of them where if you
have a fifth round and sixth round you're getting them in,
there but the running backs are so, good Like fitz,
mentioned AND i took a bunch of wide receivers in

(01:06:37):
here THAT i think slipped because the running backs are so.
Good SO i think this running back class really pushes
down the bad quarterback class class in a decent wide receiver.
CLASS i think some of these wide receivers are going
to be pretty good. Value any last, Thoughts, JAKE.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
I think they're LIKE i didn't take, any but that's
BECAUSE i think there's a couple of tight ends that
are still on the board on the. Right landing spots
could be interesting Between helm And, ferguson, heck even Bringing
stool depending on what team he's. ON i, mean you
can go all the way down To Ron Dak. Gadson
there's a lot of tight ends that they are still
similar to wide Receiver like there's two, elites but then
there's a really big group that depending on where they,
go we could be interested. In all, right we'll.

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hours and we're way under. That so we were successful
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