What Are The Expectations For Ashton Jeanty? | April Dynasty Trade Value Update (Ep. 220) - FantasyPros Dynasty Football Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello, everybody, Welcome into the Trade Block our Dynasty Discord
check in. I'm Ryan, warmly joined as always by Pat
fitz Morris. On the first Tuesday of every month, we
are talking all things Dynasty trade values. We're going through
our updated Dynasty Trade Value chart that drops on the
first of just about every month of the entire year.
So we've got the April first edition. No, it is

(00:25):
not April fools, it really is our new Dynasty Trade
Value chart. We'll be chatting about that for the first
half of the show. Then the second half, as always,
we'll be taking your questions, whether you write them in
and the chat here on our stages, or if you
raise your hand we'll call you up again. That's gonna
be the second half of this hour where we do that.
You can catch the video for the first half on YouTube.

(00:46):
You can of course, listen to the audio wherever you
listen to your podcasts for the full hour, as we
do every month. Fits it is April first, like I said,
which means it is the month of the NFL Draft.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yes, sir, really excited as I speak, where we've got
a draft going for a show that we're going to
be doing this week a mock draft with trades, and
there have been a few blockbusters in it, So hopefully
people check that one out anyone who's really into the
NFL Draft. But yeah, it's that time of year, war

(01:18):
I'm really excited. Let the rumors fly, Man.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
This is gonna be really fun. This is our last,
of course, you know, of our version of this show
on Discord that we will have before the draft. So
the next time you and I chat, we'll be talking
about real landing spots and real values and risers and
followers and all that sorts of stuff. You and Bogman
and I'm gonna talk about this a little bit later.
We'll be doing a few more of these between now
and the draft, on those kind of Thursday editions of

(01:42):
the show. We're gonna have multiple of them this month
given what's going on. But for you and I, this
is our last time to chat with the Discord audience
and get to kind of imagine all the best possible
landing spots and go for the best case scenario. Here,
let's dive into our Dynasty trade value chart conversation. Like
I said, we did just drop that new update on
fantasypros dot Com earlier today, when you scroll through, like

(02:06):
obviously the month of March, there's not a ton that
happens beyond free agency, which can sometimes move guys around.
We usually start with the quarterbacks, honestly, fits, I wonder
if you think we can kind of move past them
fairly quickly. There really weren't any big movers understandably, right.
You know, Jameis Winston moved up a bit, He's still
thirty sixth on the list, so it's not like that's

(02:27):
some huge leap where all of a sudden he's now
crazy valuable. Even though I think we would like to
imagine he'd have a chance in New York. I think
a lot of people would rather see him start than
the alternative. Is there anything that stands out to you?
I mean, I don't want to come into this like
unprepared and just kind of toss it to you. But
like I said, there's just not a lot that stands
out as big movers and shakers. So does anything stand
out to you that's worth hitting on?

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Nothing at the quarterback position. Worm Like, maybe the rookie
values are going to change once we get the landing spots.
And I will point out that in addition to the
position changes and the player changes. We've tweaked the draft
pick values a little bit. Some of them were maybe
a little too low, so we brought some of them up.

(03:08):
But I just spent some time basically looking at those
draft picks and like equating them to what the rookie
values are and also what some of the veteran values are,
just bringing us, I think into line with more the
way things should be in the way they're going to
play out when people make trades in advance of their

(03:30):
rookie draft.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
I do want to ask you one question. I'm glad
you highlighted the draft chair values every so we have
kind of columns for one QB and super flex formats
in terms of these draft pick values. I don't recall
in the past ever seeing a time where the one
oh one is currently valued more in one QB than
super flex. And I'm curious about that because obviously the

(03:53):
thought there in one QB is getting Ashton Gent is
going to be extremely valuable. You can still take gen
in the one on one in a super flex. I'm
curious the thought process. I mean, I think I have
a sense of it, but just it's kind of for
our audience who might be confused by that. So that
is kind of a rarity in the way we value
these things. If you can kind of weigh in on
why the one on one is more valuable in a
one QB than super flex In your eyes.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, generally the rookie picks are worth We give them
greater value in superflex because the quarterbacks are factored into it,
and you know, that sort of bumps everything up. Quarterbacks
are more important and just basically there's more rookie value
with the quarterbacks meaning more in super flex, so that
sort of bumps up the values. But this time around,

(04:36):
we have a very pretty near unanimous number one pick
and he's a non quarterback, Ashton genty. And because of that,
because in ninety nine point nine percent of rookie drafts,
gent is going to be the first pick, a non
quarterback is more valuable in a one QB format than
in super flex, or at least the pick is, I guess,

(05:01):
because you don't like the quarterback value is muted a
little bit in a one QB league, and uh, you know,
Gent is just more valuable in a one QB league
than he isn't super flex. So that is the one
position that one on one spot where yes, we give
more weight to the one on one in one QB

(05:21):
than we do in super flex, otherwise super flex is worthmore.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
It takes two factors for that to happen, right. It
takes this amazing running back talent etherically could have been
any position, but in this year it's running back. It
takes this incredible one on one talent and also a
very down year at the quarterback position for those two
to kind of coincide and have it reflect that way.
So I'm glad we hit on that, just in case
anybody knows that and was a little taken it back.
I think we'll move past the quarterbacks for the most part,

(05:46):
because again, you know, we'll be really interested to see
what this chart looks like in May, coming off of
seeing where these guys are drafted, especially at this position
more than almost any But for now, I think we'll
just skip to some of the other positions. Not a
ton of move really, like across the board eddingwhere, to
be fair, kind of the biggest riser just in terms
of numerical value on the running back side, you get

(06:07):
to scroll down pretty far to get there. It's actually
Tank Bigsby who has kind of raised about seven you know,
numerical value points in our rankings, which is roughly equivalent
to twelve ish points in terms of how he relates
to everybody else twelve kind of you know, ranking slots.
Is that somebody that you you know, put a lot
into that movement for or that because this is a
collaborative effort, Is that somebody that you maybe don't agree

(06:27):
with that movement for.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
No, I agree with it, And I think, you know,
part of it is the arrival of Liam Cohen and
maybe some optimism that he is going to sort of
just jump start the offense, maybe snap Trevor Lawrence out
of it and get him to play up to his capabilities.

(06:50):
But I think generally Worm, like I looking at Tank lately,
he has been so much better in every conceivable way
than and Travis Etn as a just purely from a
running back standpoint, Like if you look at the advanced stats,
he broke like forty seven tackles last year, Etn broke eighteen,

(07:13):
and I think like Bigsby only had like sixteen more
carries or something like that for rushing yards over expected
per carrie. Biggsby ranked top ten in that category. He
was at like zero point seven rushing yards over expected
per carry, and ETN was underwater. He was a negative

(07:35):
value over expected yards after contact per Carrie Bigsby was
almost a yard higher. Like he was just better by
every measure. And I know he doesn't add that much
as a pass catcher, but I just his value looked
to be a little too low. And I think I'm
not the only one of our rankers who saw that,

(07:55):
because even though I ticked him up a little bit,
he ticked up significant in our chart, looking.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Just kind of elsewhere in the running back position. I mean, again,
there's not a ton of movement this time of year,
even coming off of free agency, especially at this position.
We've talked about this basically on every episode of the show,
but so many teams clearly are aware of how strong
this and how deep this running back classes and kind
of none of these veterans in free agency really are
that secure and safe. And if you if you are

(08:23):
a guy and your Dynasty team quote unquote survived free
agency and not having some move made that hurts him,
get through April and then see if you still feel
that way, because a lot of these guys are going
to end to careers is kind of the way we've
been we've been phrasing it. You know, Ashton Genty is
still sitting there in that kind of RB three spot.
He's actually got a little wigle room on either end.

(08:43):
There's there's multiple kind of numerical values between him and
number two, which is Gibbs, but then also between him
and number four, which is Saquance, who's kind of really
solidified there in the three spot. Do you think any
landing spot will change not necessarily his specific value, but
will change that rank or will he be RB three
in your mind literally regardless of where he goes.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
I think he's going to be RB three, regardless of
where he goes, unless we get a real surprise like
maybe the Jets at number seven, for instance, which would
I would hope that would be a precursor to a
Breece Shall trade. Yeah, it would have to be something
pretty stunning. I think worm to move him out of
the one all three or the RB three spot.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Just because rookies are kind of what's front of mine
right now, And again there hasn't been much move and
I'll just highlight some of the others to kind of
refresh people on where they are in the trade value
chart or Marion Hampton is our ninth most valuable running
back in our chart, He's actually tied with James Cook
for ninth. Trayvon Henderson is at fourteenth. He's tied with
a number of names of fourteen. Actually really technically keidarg
He's tied at twelve. Kenneth Walker, Josh Jacobs, Travan Henderson,

(09:49):
Karen Williams are all at that fifty three mark. Caleb
Johnson is sixteenth. He's actually tied with Quinn Shawn Judkins.
If so sixteenth and seventeenth, is those two of those
names the non gente guys. Do any of them stand
out to you as being Maybe I'm not saying the
order of them is right or wrong, but are they
too high or too low? And compared to veterans and

(10:10):
everybody else, not just the rookies.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
I think it's right. I think it's justified to have
five of the rookies from this class in the top seventeen.
It's that good a class, and you've got the long
career runway for these guys as rookies, so I think
there's good reason to have these guys ahead of Derrick Henry.
Even though Derrick Henry could have another two or three
really really productive seasons left, I maybe bet against three

(10:36):
at Henry's age. Worm Sorry, and I don't mean to
offend you as a Ravens fan by that, but you know,
like we know that the window of productivity for Henry
is starting to close. And when you've got running back
prospects this good, I think it's warranted to have them
ahead of Derrick Henry, Christian McCaffrey, some very talented but

(10:57):
older running backs, Alvin Kamara.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Well, I think they should be ahead of Josh Jacobs too.
Then if you're gonna take a shot at Derek now,
I'm just.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Kidding, he's a Green Bay packer work.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, I wonder not let's set aside Genty and Hampton,
because I think we're both expecting both those guys to
be pretty instant impact guys. Do you think Henderson, Johnson
and Judkins, like if you are a win now team, obviously,
like we kind of expect Derek Henry to have a
better season this year than those guys. How out of

(11:27):
a gap do you think that is? Though? Like, do
you think those three in particular can be guys who
help you win games and maybe leagues as rookies or
are they where they are strictly because of the kind
of long term runway that we both agree they all have.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
They could all have major instant impacts depending on where
they land. And I think we're gonna see a lot
of year one impact from this rookie class collectively worm
and I think there are guys like outside the top
fifteen in the rookie RB class who are gonna have
like immediate impacts and who even in redraft will be

(12:06):
like waiver pickups. And you know, like some of the
guys drafted in the third or fourth rounds of rookie
drafts will have impacts. You know, I love the top
five and they're getting a lot of accolades, but you know,
we've talked about how DJ Giddens and Damien Martinez are
guys that have like RB ten, RB eleven in the

(12:26):
rookie class. Wouldn't shock me if either one had a
thousand yard season right off the bat.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
I was gonna ask who's the best of the rest,
because there's a pretty wide gap in the chart between
those top five, and then there's another kind of glut
when you get into those kind of RB thirty five
to about RB forty two range. There's like six of
them there. RJ. Harvey, Twoton, Skataboo, Giddons, Neil Sampson. Do
you have a clear favorite best of the rest or

(12:53):
is like, obviously, once you get further down, it's gonna
be very dependent on landing spot. Like we can just
that's kind of cave that goes without saying setting that aside,
Do you have just a personal favorite of those guys?

Speaker 2 (13:05):
So I've got genty on his own tier, Then I've
got Hampton and Henderson on a tier, Judkins and Caleb
Johnson on a tier, and then Tier four is a
big one with seven running backs, and I have them
from top to bottom. RJ. Harvey at RB six, then
Dylan Samson, Devin Neil cam Scataboo, DJ Giddens, Damien Martinez,

(13:27):
and Bashall Tuton and could make a case for ordering
those guys any which way. I know a lot of
people have tutin higher. I just feel like we're maybe
double counting his speed after he ran the blazing forty
time at the Combine, because speed was already his calling card.
So like I moved him up one spot based on

(13:49):
his forty time, Like I felt like I was already
counting twoton' speed and that was what I liked about him.
But I didn't like him more than DJ Giddens, Cam Scataboo,
even Damien Martinez. So like all those guys, and then
beyond those guys, it's like, I still like the guys
on Tier five, even though it's a tear drop, but
like Jordan James, dark Quez, Hunter, Oli, Gordon Burchard Smith, Hodjbrooks,

(14:13):
Woody Marx, liked those guys a lot too. And that's
at that point we're almost twenty deep in running back.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
The sound everybody heard is Bogman from Afar raising his fist.
That fits for not having Scataboo higher. Bogman very high
on him, and you've got him not even at the
top of tier four.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah, he's such an interesting prospect where I'm like, just
the monster season for Arizona States, seventeen hundred rushing yards,
twenty one touch, six hundred and five receivers, he was
over twenty three hundred combined yards. Yeah, I just I
don't know athletically, I don't think he's special at all

(14:55):
by NFL standards. How much of that juice, the usual
to be tackled in college? How will that translate to
the NFL? I'm not sure he could be awesome and
he could be just really average because the athleticism is
nothing special. I don't know where I fall in that continuum,

(15:15):
you know. And Bogs, after seeing Skataboo almost knock his
Texas Longhorns out of the college football playoffs is obviously
he was obviously impressed.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Last question here on the running backs. Two guys that
you liked in last year's class, Blake Korum and Ray Davis?
Where would they slot in relative to some of these
Obviously they're not in that top five group, but relative
to some of these Tier four rookie running backs? Where
were guys like that who are still young? On Ray Davis,
I know is older for his experience level, but you know,

(15:46):
still relatively young guys that you liked just a year ago,
compared to some of these rookies where we haven't seen
it yet.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
I would slot those guys into Tier four along with
our Harvey Sampson, Neil Scataboo giintins that group. I think
you could maybe because we haven't seen anything from Korum,
I might slot him toward the bottom of that group,
and because what we saw from Ray Davis was pretty impressive,

(16:17):
and like you know, when he got a chance to
carry the load in one game that James Cook missed,
he was really good. He had like eighty seven rushing
yards and some receiving yardage too. That put him over
one hundred yards from scrimmage. I'd put him maybe somewhere
right around where Scataboo and DJ Giddens are. So I
think I'd have Davis like RB ten or so in

(16:38):
this class RB eleven.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
We usually highlight the biggest movers in these episodes. I
do want to ask about a small mover. As we
moved to the wide receivers. At the very top, we
had Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson essentially tied at both
of the trade value of ninety in our chart. In
the last chart now we have Chase out of ninety
one Andjefferson still at a ninety. Obviously, I don't need

(17:02):
to explain one of these guys are awesome. They're both
first round picks and startups before anybody. We often think
about this to the prism of rookie drafts. For anybody
who is doing a startup, whether now or in a
couple of months. What went into Chase now being by
a very small margin, but actually separated from Jefferson at
least in terms of our value chart.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
That he is tethered to Joe Burrow and justin Jefferson
is tethered to a rookie quarterback who we don't know
anything about as far as his NFL capabilities. It's basically that,
and you know that, and Chase getting the new deal
just knowing that he is going to be connected to
Joe Burrell, with whom he has made such beautiful music

(17:44):
for years, not only in Cincinnati but also in Baton
Rouge when they were LSU teammates.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Speaking of LSU, Brian Thomas Jr. And Malik Neighbors were
tied in our last update, kind of a similar thing.
Now Neighbors does go up by just one kind of slot.
He's now fourth in Thomas Junior's fifth. Again, everybody loves
these guys. I don't need to sell anybody on these guys.
But what was the thought process for Neighbors being slightly
head Because you and I just taped a show for
Redraft Leagues with Jake Sealey that'll come out later this week,

(18:13):
where we talked about how much we like Brian Thomas
Junior even in Redraft. So I'm surprised to maybe see
that there's a slight difference in Dynasty with Neighbors just ahead,
given how much we like Thomas.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yeah, just that a little of the quarterback ambiguity was
settled for Neighbors. Now, we don't necessarily love the Giants
QB situation, and certainly not long term, but Neighbors is
probably going to play a few games this year that
Jamis Winston starts at quarterback worm And if you had

(18:46):
Malik Neighbors in any sort of fantasy lineup, be it
Dynasty or Redraft, wouldn't you be pretty excited about playing
him and what his output might be in a given
game that Jamis Winston is starting. Oh yeah, that's kind
of the tiebreaker. I mean, just that he is gonna
potentially put up some monster games where Jamis is doing

(19:07):
his thing and just throwing yolo balls downfield.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Interestingly, one of our biggest movers is a rookie. It's
Travis Hunter is there. I mean again, I feel like
I'm just repeating myself from previous shows, like if you
were a receiver only, boy, would he be higher on here.
You and I pretty much from the get go, have
been extremely skeptical of that happening of a full time

(19:32):
receiver workload. As it stands here on April first, the
month of the draft, again, still not knowing his landing spot.
What's your confidence level that will see him be a
viable fantasy receiver? Because to me, even if he's the
most talented receiver in the draft, and I actually do
believe that's true. As much as I love Ted McMillan,
I do believe Travis Hunter's most talented receiver in the draft,
we have my wide receiver thirty six. I think, just mathematically,

(19:56):
there's no way that works unless he is like relatively
close to a full wide receiver workload. Because if he's
a full time cornerback who plays twenty percent of the
snaps on offense, that's still wildly impressive and valuable to
the team that drafts him. But there's just no way
he's a wide receiver three in that scenario. So is

(20:18):
this a reflection of an extra degree of confidence that
he is going to get more snaps a higher percentage
than we've been thinking before.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yes, it's that the most likely landing spots, it appears
now or are either with the New York Giants at
number three or the New England Patriots at number four.
You know, not automatically, someone could trade up to come
up and get him. Maybe the Browns surprise us and
take him at number two. But I think either the

(20:50):
Giants or the Patriots would play him primarily at wide
receiver in his rookie year. Both are pretty set at
corner right now. I think we'd see Hunter play some cornerback,
but both teams are not set at wide receiver. I mean,
the Giants do have my league neighbors, but they inexplicably
gave a lot of money to Darius Slayton, who I

(21:12):
don't think is very good. Wandell Robinson just a gadgety
slot guy. And the Patriots, even though they signed Stefan Diggs,
their wide receiver group still isn't that great. I tend
to think that if he lands with either of those teams,
he's going to play a lot of wide receiver in
year one. The scary thing is, though, if you're taking
Travis Hunter in a rookie draft, there's no guarantee he

(21:35):
won't at some point be a corner first, even if
he lands with a team that says they're going to
use him mostly a wide receiver.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
So let's say he goes to one of those teams
and they, I don't know if they come right out and
say he's never playing corner for us, but like they
pretty heavily imply that he's going to be primarily a
receiver for us. Where would you move him up to
in this rankings? I would assume in that scenario, wide
receiver thirty six is now too low, And also what
pick would you take him with in a rookie draft.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
I would probably move him up in my dynasty rankings
to somewhere in the somewhere maybe around Xavier Worthy Rashie
Rice range.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Because McMillan is wide receiver sixteen and a lot of
people have said that if Hunter were a full time receiver,
he'd be higher than McMillan. Yep, But that's a pretty
high jump for a guy who still has the possibility
of cornerback play.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Right there is that specter of future you know, defense first,
hanging over his head. So I would still want him
behind McMillan, I think, But maybe in the Xavier Worthy
neighborhood around wide receiver twenty one or so. Maybe yeah,
some somewhere below Romo Dunes. I think maybe right around

(22:49):
where Worthy is so. And then in rookie drafts oh Man.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
That is gent one. Let's assume you still have McMillan
ahead because of the certainty he's playing the position his
hunter as high as third in that scenario, is he
still behind like a Hampton and cam Ward? I mean,
where does he kind of slot shitter? Sanders? I know
you preferred award. Where does he go in that scenario?

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Top sex, Top six, top sex, and you can make
a case as high as one oh two, and you
can make a case as low as.

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the tight ends here before we jump to the chat
and start taking some questions. We talked last time about how, yes,

(24:26):
brock Bauers was the definitive number one tight end in
our trade value chart, but that maybe the gap wasn't
wide enough. It appears you have addressed that because he
has gone up one of the larger kind of jumps
of any of the tight ends on this list. There's
actually a lot of Titans whose values changed a lot,
and we'll get to some of those later down the list,
but particularly at the top, he's going to want to

(24:48):
take a big leap. I have to assume that is
just strictly based on two things. One the fact that
we now know who the quarterback is in Vegas, and
two the fact that maybe there wasn't a wide enough
gap beforehand, and that kind of needed some reconfiguring.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
I've seen a couple of Dynasty trades involving Brock Powers,
and I've seen where he has gone in a couple
of startups, and based on that, I knew we had
to bump him up a little bit. Just for sake
of comparison. Brock Bowers is now given a value one
greater than Drake London. Who would you rather have a

(25:24):
dynasty worm, Rock Powers or Drake.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
I'd rather have Bowers. I'm not somebody who needs to
overinvest in tight end in general, but if you're going
to give me that tight end for his whole career,
I'd rather have that than all. But I'm trying to
like think of the actual number of receivers I would
take ahead of that. I think the list might end
at Amenra like I think it might be Chase Jefferson

(25:50):
Lamb neighbors Thomas Saint Brown, and then I would at
least consider it. Like, I just think the gap you're
going to get from him, not just for this year
where he's tight end one, or the course of the
next twelve years is going to be immense.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
I'm with you. I think he's great. I have made
the case that he should be a first round pick
in redraft this year, and it's possible we still don't
have him valued highly enough. I would put that number.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
The numerical values is he's at sixty nine. Trey McBride
a second at fifty eight. I think Bowers should be
in the seventies. Truthfully, I think it's like I think
it's like getting Travis kelce in twenty fifteen.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, oh man, And like we didn't know what the
career arc of Travis Kelcey is going to be at
that point. We know that if Brock powers you know,
dodges the injury imp that he is going to be
pretty freaking awesome. And by the way, for everyone listening,
if you played a tight end premium league, we we
have had some pretty serious conversations about adding tight end

(26:55):
premium values, so that might be coming really.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Soon nice, that would be awesome to to add. I
actually last year I had never done tight end premium ever.
And last year I started a startup with some friends
and family who had never played Dynasty before, and I
was looking to do a new startup, and I decided
to make it tight end premium, just because I had
never had that experience before. And I drafted Trey McBride

(27:17):
in the third round of that league, and I was
really excited because I was so so in on Trainmickbride
last year and I still am for sure, and Bowers
went like three picks later. And now I'm, you know,
kicking myself that I didn't take Bowers, but obviously still
quite happy with McBride. But yeah, I mean in a
tight end premium format, like how many picks are off

(27:38):
the board and a startup in tight end premium before
you're taking Bowers. Personally, I mean to me, it's like
the big three receivers and however many quarterbacks I decide,
And that's basically it.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, that is, And I Bogs and I were in
a chat not long ago where there was a super
premium like hyper premium tight end thing like O ours
is the most valuable player in this league with this format,
he really is. So yeah, I mean, is his value
just goes to the moon and it's just for.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
The sake of playing Devil's Advocate. You and I had
a conversation before I had a startup a few years
ago at this point, coming off of Kyle Pitts's rookie season,
and you said you wouldn't do it, but you thought
there was a case to be made for Pitts as
the first pick in a startup draft. Now, you were
not as full of conviction on that as you are

(28:31):
in discussing Brock Bowers right now. So I'm not saying
that you had Pits as high as you have Bowers
right now. But we had that brief conversation via slack.
So is there any part of your mind that says,
you know not that we've been down this road before,
because again, I really I would have really clear. In
no way am I saying Brock Bowers is Kyle Pitts.
But does that scenario having played out across your mind

(28:53):
at all? I mean, even even samla Porta last year
wasn't quite as much fall off as Pitts was, but
was awesome, Like tight end one for most people, and
then did take a step back in your two.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
We're talking tight end premium superflex. Yes, I would still
take jayde Daniels one A one. You know, I'd almost
have to give a thought to Bowers versus Lamar and
Josh Allen, Like I don't think that would be completely crazy,

(29:23):
but ultimately I'd probably still go with the quarterbacks. But uh,
Bowers would be a top six pick for me.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Not a lot of big followers on the tight end list.
We'll quickly hit on some of the big hitters before
we jump into the chat questions. Cole Comette and Isaiah
Likely at tight end sixteen and seventeen both jumped a
number of spots, and then a couple spots below them.
Friarmuth and Harold Fan and Junior jumped a number of
spots as well in terms of the value friar Mouth. Obviously,

(29:51):
there's still, as of the time we're taping this, some
uncertainty about the quarterback position, so I'm curious to hear
kind of what went into his rise. Likely I think
is pretty clear, like there's a real path whenever Mark
Andrews is not there for him to be like a
top eight tight end at least you know in any
year that Andrews is not there, and there's a degree
of uncertainty there. I do expect Andrews to be playing

(30:13):
for the Ravens next year, but it's not one hundred
percent at least as far as I can tell. Cole
Comett obviously you know Ben Johnson there, Caleb Williams in
year two hopefully better offensive line, and then Fan and
somebody who dropped a lot of the Senior Bowl but
obviously was uber productive. So of those guys who kind
of stands out to you in terms of how much
they've risen as kind of the most interesting case to dissect.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
I think Komett is probably the most interesting case because
he just he was destined not to have a good
season last year. I think with a rookie quarterback having
three really talent head wide receivers, Pitts was bound to
take a step back and heat or excuse me not Pitts.
Comett was bound to take a step back. He did,

(30:54):
but now no more Keenan Allen. So the slot guy
is gone. That leaves you know, still leaves Odoonsa and
Dj Moore. But I think it'll be easier for Comet
to find targets in what should be an improved offense,
because you know whether Caleb Williams is really going to
pan out the way Bear's help. That remains to be seen.
But he's got more of a fighting chance now that

(31:16):
they've bolstered the offensive line and given him Ben Johnson,
who by the way, presided over the rookie breakout for
Sam Laporta that really no one saw coming. Really improved
situation I think for Comets, and yeah, with a likely
Friarmouth fannin just a case of bringing up the values
I think to get in line with the market and

(31:39):
what we've seen in some dynasty trades.

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(32:03):
playbook and dominate your league. All right, fits, Let's get
to some of these chat questions. We've only got one
hand raised, so I'll go ahead just called him up
now before we get to some of the written questions here.
This is go Phil's twenty three will bring him up.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
So I apologize if I missed this because I had
to bounce in and out of the call of the
session here. But touching on Stefan Diggs, I having my
Dynasty league and I know I see that he's his
value went up from like eighteen to thirty, I believe,
so I wanted to see if that was something that
you guys were in line with. And also in terms
of my dynasty roster, I'm looking to kind of start
a rebuild, so give up some of my older pieces.

(32:40):
And now that his value has gone up, do you
think he's a good trade piece? And do you see
what do you see the road leading for Stefan Diggs?
And then secondary, I have somebody that's potentially interested in
him to work out a tape with a Lave. So
second part to that question would be what are your
thoughts long term for a Lave given the injury and
the talent there?

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah, I'm sorry, what did you Which direction did you
say you were going? Did you say you were rebuilding.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yeah, I'm trying to rebuild it at the moment.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Okay, and you would He's maybe talking about involving a
Lave and a deal that you would get.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah, I apologize about that. Yeah, I would get a Lave.
And the initial trade that he threw out there was
including a first round pick, but obviously I'm not gonna
throw that investment in there, so I would be getting
a Lave. I'm wondering if it makes sense to make
a trade for digs for Lobby.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
I mean, I would rather have a Lave for sure.
I think he does have more dynasty value, and like
Olave is a really really good receiver if he the
concussion thing, like that's the only thing holding his value back.
That and the fact that maybe I don't know, he
and Derek Carr, it seems like have been really close
to connecting, and like just seems like every game there

(33:56):
are some throws where like car just puts on overall
Lave's outstretched hands when he's wide open and about to
make a you know, forty yard gain. But like, I
think Olave is terrific as far as the talent, there
is some risk with the concussion. Multiple concussions and what
happens from here with that. But like, I would definitely

(34:18):
rather have him than Digs because I think he has
a potentially long and you know, very productive career. Is
like a wide receiver two type top twenty guy maybe,
and Diggs is really interesting. Like I guess his value
is sort of in the eye of the beholder. You know,
if the guy you're possibly going to trade him to

(34:42):
is skittish about trading for a thirty one year old
receiver coming off of torn acl you're just not going
to be able to get that deal done no matter
what tear satisfaction, you know what I mean. But at
the same time, I think there's a pretty good chance
he's around to start the season, and if not, maybe
just a few weeks in. And I don't know, like
the advanced metrics say he was still pretty good last year,

(35:06):
like when he went to Buffalo that first year after
he went from Minnesota to Buffalo, that was the Josh
Allen breakout year. Like Diggs helped Josh Allen take that
leap from like toolesy prospect to star, and I wonder
if he might be able to do the same thing.
It's the primary receiver the number one receiver for Drake May. Like,

(35:28):
I'm still pretty optimistic because of the age, because of
the return from injury. We still only have Diggs as
the fifty fourth ranked Dynasty receiver, but there is definitely
value in the short term, and I think that's why
we've got him kind of in line with some other
pretty good players Jacoby Myers, Juwan Jennings, Calvin Ridley, Like

(35:53):
I would see his dwarf those guys.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
I would personally say, like, I think this is a
dream scenario for you, as somebody who's already kind of
leaning towards a rebuild, that he went to a spot
where it's very easy to make the case he's going
to get a ton of volume this year, that he
could click with Drake May and that this could be
a really valuable season for him because you can now
swing a deal. If you were a contender, I wouldn't say, oh,

(36:17):
trade him at any costs or anything like that, but
if you're already leaning in that direction, I would take
advantage of this and move him if you can get
a deal done where you're getting a lave. That's like
I totally agree with with Fits, Like I am worried
about the concussion stuff, like I think maybe even more
worried than Fitz's. But that's baked into the fact that
you're giving away a thirty one year old coming off injury,

(36:37):
right Like, you're not selling high on digs to get
a love. So I would like definitely make that move
first and foremost. But even if you don't, like, if
you don't get what you think is pretty good value now,
I do think Diggs will show enough value to trade
him this season. I would not hold on him throughout
the season. I would move him like pretty much regardless.
The one thing I will say is as a Maryland fan,
I watch a lot of Stefan Diggs in college. He

(36:59):
is he has always been a very very good route runner.
So he's always been somebody that I expected to age
pretty gracefully. Obviously, the injury last year. It's just so
much harder in dynasty when you have a guy who's
in his thirties and has already gone through the severe injury.
So maybe that does kind of lessen my enthusiasm for
how productive he'll be into his thirties. He is somebody

(37:20):
that I think has a skill like his skill set
is not overly reliant on pure athleticism, So I do
think and in saying that, I still think you should
maybe trade him this year, But maybe that's an excuse
to say I'm not just gonna trade for anything right now,
but anticipating that he will have some value into October,
and if you can't get the good value now that

(37:41):
you'll be able to trade him, then it is kind
of how I think about it.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Yeah, And that was my idea in terms of looking
at a Labb as a bi low target given the
injury risk. And then Digg's given the news that he's
going to the Patriots in terms of a cell high
before he eats the field, and that would be ideal
scenario in case the injury. Is there any issues in
terms of him not being available for a week one?
So it was kind of sell high in the hype
by also buy low on the olave A price given

(38:03):
the injury concerned.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
So that's kind of my thought.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
What would be an acceptable price do you think in
terms of making that trade, obviously knowing I would have
to give up more than just digs, it would be
like a one for one.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Third rounder like see I see if a third rounder
is attacked.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
I think a third round rounder for me is like
a no brainer. The question for me is like, would
I do as second rounder? And I think probably not,
especially if you're rebuilding and that's likely to be a
high second rounder. But that to me is where I'm like,
I see it as a gray area. I think a
third rounder, a third rounder is like one hundred percent yes,
I would do that.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
I think you might, sorry hopefully digs in a third
for a love essentially, Yeah, I think that would be
pretty fair.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
And I think you're looking at this at the exact
uh from the exact right lens O fells like, yeah,
this this is a great by low opportunity on a
lave and this is a really good time to get
out on Diggs.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
I think, yeah, for sure. And I just made a
dale for Barkley, and I appreciate your advice fits on
that one. I sold them for a first round pick
for the one oh two and Chase Brown and I
threw in. I got a second in return, also for
Barkley and a third for next year. So kind of
leaning towards rebuilding, building nice draft capital, nice and making

(39:21):
some moves.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
So appreciate.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Love that deal for you so much, brother, you Batman.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
And then thank you.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
I appreciate it. Guys. All right, we've got some questions
in the chat that will work through. Here fits a
question from Bunting lowist superflex first rounder you'd trade Derek
Henry for? Same question for Chase Brown? He asks, are
we still thinking Brown gets this workload drastically decreased this year?
He still thinks the Bengals have too many other holes

(39:48):
to take a real threat in the draft. I tend
to agree with that second part of his questions, by
the way, that like, if I'm the Bengals, I know
it's a great running back draft, but like, how could
you not fill some of these other holes with how
much money you do have tied up too those top guys.
But that first part of the question, Yeah, Low is
super flex first rounder that you would trade Derrick Henry
for or trade Chase Brown?

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Right now?

Speaker 2 (40:08):
I think we've got Derrick Henry's numerical value at forty nine,
which is the equivalent of one oh eighth super flex.
But I guess if I were a motivated seller looking
to add picks, i'd maybe drop as as low as
one nine or one ten.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
If you're selling Henry, that says to me that you're
not a contender and you're looking to build, but at
least think about the future, So I would sell I
would truely person I would sell them for any first
round pick. I mean I would try and get more.
And I think maybe if you if you can pit
two contenders against each other, you can get more. So
I'm not saying just take the first person who offers

(40:45):
any first rounder, but at the end of the day,
if all you're getting bites on is the one to twelve,
I would still take that for Henry if you are
in the position that you're kind of rebuilding anyway, or
at least building for the future anyway, Like if you're
not competing this year, there's no reason to keep Derrick Henry,
like would be my opinion. And by the way, at
the end of the first round, you're probably going to
get to take a swing on a pretty talented running back.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
And it would be, according to our chart, a six
point value loss, which is pretty pretty minuscule in the grand.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Scheme, especially if like philosophically, it helps you go in
the direction you're trying to go.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
And so we've got Chase Brown valued at I believe
fifty three puts him in line with like the one
oh six in a rookie draft. But I think we're
kind of working under the assumption that they aren't going
to add someone who's going to threat the Bengals are
going to draft a running back work Like, there's no
doubt in my mind. But I also think it's very
unlikely they draft a running back before Day three. As

(41:41):
Bontek said, they just have way too many needs Right now.
It looks like every Bengals game is going to be
forty eight to forty five because their defense is just
horrid and they've got to add on that side of
the ball on Day one and Day two. So yeah,
like it seems unlikely as good as Chase Brown play
that they would draft anyone who is going to be

(42:03):
able to come in and displace Chase Brown. So I
think his value is still pretty high. You know, maybe
if they have a Day three guy that everyone likes
fall into their laps, maybe we have to take a
few ticks down, But right now, I don't know. I mean,
i'd take what would you take for him in a

(42:24):
rookie draft form? Would you rather like, would you take
one oh eight if you were looking to move Chase Brown.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Well, the interesting thing is that in this class, I
think you and I agree that, well, there is a
good amount of depth the high end talent, isn't you know,
maybe the same as last year. So like last year,
if you were talking about like the one oh seven,
for example, you're talking about possibly Drake may or brock Bauers,
we're going in that range this year. I don't think

(42:52):
there's really that wide a gap between like the one
oh eight versus like the two oh one. I think
it's gonna be a lot of I mean, landing spots
could change that sentiment, but I think it's going to
be a lot of personal preference in your mileage may
vary on who goes in what order there So for me, like, yes,
it'd be nicer to have the choice by having the
higher pick, but it's not like I see a wide

(43:14):
gap between those picks this year. I don't know, do
you disagree with that?

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Right now? The only positional, the only non quarterbacks in
this rookie class I think I would rather have than
Chase Brown without question, would be Genty Hampton Henderson, Ted McMillan,
and I think that might be it. So that's four,

(43:38):
But then there might be a few other guys who
you know, quarterbacks potentially, and a guy or two who's
landing spot I love.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Like Tyler Warren maybe, or Warren like Judkins goes to
a great spot for Avis Hunter. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
I mean I tend to think Chase Brown is worth
somewhere from like the one oh five to the one nine,
one ten in this draft.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
I think the way I would move him, no doubt,
is if you're getting like a top eight pick, if
you're getting like one oh nine to one twelve, I'd
probably be questioning it. And it would really depend on,
like philosophically, what direction I'm trying to go, and I'd
be leaning towards no, unless it's like kind of a
firesale situation.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Yeah, And the other thing bunting, like what are you
trying to get done with a trade? Like, you know,
if you're just looking for another running back, I don't
know that. It just seems like trading Chase Brown for
the right to take Caleb Johnson is kind of spinning
your wheels. So i'd make sure you have a clear objective.
I guess.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Let's go to this question from CFC fan ten. Hi,
guys currently rebuilding in a ten team Dynasty super flex league,
it's half PPR thoughts on trading away the one oh
one for Justin Herbert. His other quarterbacks are May, Bryce Fields,
and Gino. His running backs are Etn Spears, Roshan McLoughlin,
and Right. He also does have picks six, eight and eleven.

(45:06):
So my initial thought on that is probably I guess
it depends on how big a believer you are in Bryce,
because if you think you are set at QB, then
I think I'd like the bigger hole is running back.
But at the same time, like in a superflex getting
Herbert is pretty appealing to me, and also having picks six,

(45:29):
eight and eleven, you can draft running backs with all
three of those picks and still bolster that position. What
do you think fits?

Speaker 2 (45:36):
I just think Herbert is more valuable. Like even if
Gent is like everything he's cracked up to be and
has like a fifteen hundred yard from scrimmage ten touchdown
rookie year, Herbert is still probably the more valuable property
in Dynasty. So even though like that kind of a
smash rookie season would make me feel like it was

(45:58):
more of a balanced trade, I think on the whole.
I would rather have Herbert in Dynasty. I would do
that deal and then target running backs with probably two
of those picks that he has with the six, the eight,
and the eleven.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Where do you think those two are going in startup
drafts fits Herbert and Gent?

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Well, that's a good question.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
I don't have the data up in front of me,
but I'm curious where you imagine they would be going
each because I don't know that I would think they're
too far apart. I mean, I think strategically you and
I and a lot of people are in agreement on
Like obviously you kind of want to go quarterback early
in a super flex startup, but I do feel like
that kind of like top running back sometimes does sneak
up there, Like Bijon a year ago, I feel like

(46:44):
it was going a little high. So like, I'm kind
of curious who you think you know now, who you
think would go higher. I think it would be Herbert.
But how wide that gap is? Do you think?

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Right now? I've got Herbert ranked tenth overall in super
Flex and Gent twenty seventh. Even if you could make
the even if you wanted to make the case that
Gent should be a little higher. I don't think I
could get him higher than about twentieth. I think that
would probably be the cap for me.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Yeah, I think I think there will be startup drafts
this year where both guys are second round picks. I
don't think. I'm not saying I think that's the correct
ranking of them. But I think there will be drafts
where somebody just loves the idea of this generational running
back and it's a draft where a lot of receivers
go early, so Herbert falls out of the first round,
and I think there will be drafts where both guys
are in the second round. But I agree with you

(47:35):
that Herbert's the better asset, and again especially because he
has three other picks in the top eleven, those can
all be running backs.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Yeah, I would personally make the deal.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Klest has he dropped his team here in the chat
and then the two four three oh seven four four
O four any target suggestions given his thin team, he
didn't completely tear down last year like we suggested. He
was able to sell off some depth pieces to get
at the picks that he has. I always struggle to
get discord to uh magnify this for me? Oh wow,

(48:09):
I'm like, I'm like sitting here thinking it's spring. By
the way, I just looked up my window and it
just started snowing outside my house. That's soop. That's Denver
for you. Yeah, I'll still get at his team, you know,
Michael Pennix, Aaron Jones, Jonathan Taylor, DeVante Adams, A J. Brown,
Dallas Godder, Joku Pearsall Cooker, He's got Wilson and Bryce Young.
So yeah, any thoughts on some targets for him?

Speaker 2 (48:29):
While I am looking at his team, which it appears
as a one QB team. What are k LST's picks again?

Speaker 1 (48:38):
They are two O four three oh seven four O
two four oh four.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Right, two O four we're talking about sixteen overall. You know,
one QB. I mean guys who are conceivably going to
be available. I love R. J. Harvey, Dylan Sampson. I
think any from the running back group klest Of like R. J. Harvey,
Dylan Sampson, Devin Neil camp Scatabo, And because they're in

(49:07):
that tier I have pretty close together. I would say,
just like, let Draft Capital and Landing Spot be your
guide as to how you order those guys. But one
of those guys or potentially like one of Jayden Higgins,
elk Amn or Trey Harris, those guys also in play,
But I don't know, it's a great running back class.

(49:29):
I tend to favor the running backs three oh seven.
So now we're talking about the thirty first overall pick.
You know, maybe that could be a good tight end
spot with like anyone falling of Harold Fann and junior
Elijah Arroyo, Mason Taylor. And since your starting tight end

(49:51):
is Dallas Goddard, maybe you could get a little younger there.
But I also think like it's possible we could see
a sliding wide receiver like Jalen Royals. Your guy type Felton.
I mean, I like him a little more than usual,
and I've got him ranked higher than thirty one Worm,
But like Felton would maybe be a great way to

(50:12):
spend either the four h two or the four oh four.
Worm has this guy from Maryland. He, you know, kind
of turned me on to Ty Felton. He's like this
fairly tall, kind of skinny receiver, but he does not
play skinny, doesn't shy from contact, and this guy just
goes and gets the football.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Man.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
I love how he attacks the ball. I think he's
a good sleeper pick, so he'd be in play. Maybe
also with like either of those early fourths, any one
of Jordan James, Jarques Hunter, Ali Gordon Brishard Smith, Taj Brooks.
Those are some pretty good running back targets that late.

(50:50):
I think it's just such a great year for running
backs that yeah, you're gonna be hitting good ones well
into the teams at the running back position. And yeah,
I mean I I've like Hemden had about how to
rank these guys k lest in my rookie rankings. Ultimately,

(51:11):
I'm gonna do a lot of reswizzling after the draft
based on where these guys go, not only what round,
but to what team and what their opportunity looks like.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
I really need Tye Felton to like set rookie records
this year so he can be my answer to Deebro's
Puka call from a couple of years ago. Now I
have a little bit of homer Ism attached with mine,
where Debro's is strictly just quality scouting. But that would
sure be nice to be able to point to somebody
that I was the guy telling everybody early and kind
of getting laughed.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
At where do you think he should go in a
rookie draft?

Speaker 1 (51:45):
In a rookie draft, So right now, I feel like
he's for me a very solid third round pick, Like
I can't get to the second round yet, but prior
to seeing where he actually goes in the real NFL
draft and the landing spot, because I don't think the
ceiling is insanely high, but I think the floor is

(52:05):
higher than he's given credit for. I think he's just
going to be a good receiver. I think he's going
to help NFL teams for ten years. Like, I just
think he's a good player. Again, Like we talked about
this a bunch of fits, but like the quarterback play
at Maryland this year first year post to Leah was abysmal,
and he still was really productive enough to be an
all Big ten type of receiver. So I think third

(52:28):
round is totally fairly. He's not going to get to
the fourth round in my rookie drafts, but I can't
quite get up to second. So where he goes in
the third I struggle to perfectly identify right now, but
I do think he's a third round pick for me currently.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Yeah, that's where I've got him. I've got him thirty
first in super Flex, so's he's right in there. He's
next door neighbors with Harold Fannin.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Let's get a few more questions in here before we
wrap up from Herbs and Cheese. For a contending team,
how much would you be willing to give up to
upgrade from Hockinson to McBride or Warren? And it is
a half point tight end premium.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
I've seen Dynasty rankings where some people have Hockinson ranked
ahead of Warren, which I don't agree with, but I
also don't think it's that big a.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Gap to shout out bunting while you're answering this. He does.
He responded to Herbs and Cheese in the chat saying
that JJ loves tight ends, so that might be a
reason to not want to give up too much to
move off of Hockinson.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Yeah, I mean he does. They didn't throw a lot
in Colston. Loveland still had pretty good numbers the year
they won the national championship, so that's a good point.
And right now I've got Tyler Warren ranked two spots.
I've got Warren and Loveland ranked ahead of Hockinson in Dynasty.
So man if I was going to trade up, I

(53:48):
wouldn't give up a lot. I don't think i'd give
up more than a fourth there herbs and cheese. So
let's see what.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
About the gap to go get up to McBride, because
I think mcgride is a very easy tight end two
in Dynasty. That is a move where I'd be really
excited to to move up.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Yeah, Now that one is a different story, especially as
a if you're trading to a non contending team, they're
also giving up some youth there. And you've got a
guy who's coming off a pretty serious injury with Hawkins,
and I know we returned and played some games after
that injury, but like, so we've got fourteen point gap

(54:32):
in values, and realistically it might take more than just
you know, a third or something like that to close
up that gap.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Yeah, I feel like like our numerical values don't reflect this.
I feel like personally I would be willing to give
up a second round or like kind of like without
even hesitation. Honestly, Now, I really like McBride, but I
think you're getting youth, you're getting not the same level
of injury history, and get guy that's really productive. And
again like if if brock Bowers didn't exist, McBride would

(55:04):
be my easy tight end one in Dynasty. Like that's
how much I like him, I think, And I don't
dislike Hockinson. But again it's a different story with Warren.
I agree with you that I really wouldn't give up
much to get up to Warren, but to get up
to McBride, like I would do a second rounder honestly,
like and not even question it for me personally.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Man, So you would give up saying you would give
up like I don't know, Jaden Higgins and Hockinson to
get Trey McBride that just seems a little rich to me,
or Scataboo and Hockinson to get McBride.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
I would prefer if it was a later second.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
I was, you know that was of those guys are
later seconds guys like yeah, Jack Bash, d J Giddons.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
I would maybe.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
I think McBride is that good you do a late second.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
It's also a half Hawkins. It's also a half point
tight end premium, So I'm even more incentivez.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
To Okay, right, yeah, then I'm on board with a second. Yeah,
a second plus hawk for.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
If you can do it for lower than a second. Yeah,
like third. Our chart says a third is a slight
overpay Like I disagree with that truthfully, Like I would.
I would make that move for sure. I think the
gap is wider than that's reflecting again specifically for McBride,
not for Warren, who I don't dislike, But yeah, I
wouldn't be as gung ho about it and aggressive.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
The gap would be. It would be a bigger numerical
gap if we're if we had tight end premium rank yeah, sure,
no question about it. But I will say the Trey
McBride end zone allergy is real, though there might be
a cap. Like, I just don't think he's ever going
to score a lot of touchdowns. He just doesn't do it.
There will probably be a year where he breaks through

(56:44):
it as like eight or nine.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
But I just I get that. But the tight end
premium helps offset that. Yeah, all right, we don't have
any more questions of the chat, and we are at
an hour here, so we'll go ahead and wrap up there.
Thanks everybody for tuning in. As always, I do want
to remind everybody one last timeout some of our discord
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(57:27):
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We're gonna have a ton of content after the draft
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everything like that. So gonna be a really fun few
weeks here talking rookies with you, buddy, and I look
forward to the next time we chat.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
It is gonna be a fun April. Warm looking forward
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