12 UNDERVALUED Fantasy Football Players To Keep An Eye Out For In 2025 (Ep. 1591)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros. This is the Fantasy
Football Podcast as me Joey p Joe Pizapia, and today
we're gonna take a look at twelve undervalued players right now.
We're gonna look at the early rounds, the mid rounds,
and is on late round gyms that could make a
huge impact in your drafts. And those drafts are gonna
be happening pretty damn soon, so you better get ready.
And to help us get ready and identify some of

(00:21):
those important names, Alfredo Brown from Football Guys is back
joining us, one of my favorite folks in the industry.
And of course Jake Seely who's also here, Jake Seely
from The Athletic who my dear friend, Jake, Jake. I
know things are busy at the Athletic. What do you
guys have going on right now?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, I'm and knee deep in the projections for this year,
but in the middle of the breakout series, and I
had to do Breakout running backs because they're just everywhere. Also,
because Alfred is on the show with us and I
saw the movie already, I had to do the crossover
T shirt for How to Train Your Dragon. Oh look,
I even did that without even trying. I perfectly like
grab this chest.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
There there you go. I have not seen actually the
original or the remake of Dragon's Jenks. Look, Matt, I'm
just saying like, and I'm going I'm planning on visiting
the new park in Orlando in a few months from now,
in November. So I guess from your reaction, I'll forre
you know that's something I'm gonna have to see.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah, man, you have to first watch the movie first,
the animated movie, then after that go watch the live
action movie, and then go to the theme park and
just be like totally immersed in how to Train You
Dragon stuff? Because that would you.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Say an underrated gem?

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Would you say, Oh, it's like it's a round like
nine sleeper? Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, solid though, everybody, all right, So again we're using
the expert consensus rankings and the ADP and everything coming
from fantasypros dot com. You go check out the consensus
rankings right now. They are up and ready to rock
and roll all as you know. Again, it's it's Might
v June, but in our hearts it's already late August
and we are ready to rock and roll. So let's

(01:51):
start with some early round values. Jake, why don't you
kick us off with an early round value of a
receiver in Tampa that, depending on how that health is
even be ready as early as week one.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
And see, that's the thing, is everybody's saying depending. I'm
not coming for you for saying that. It's like everybody's saying,
depending if he's ready to de Penny is ready. I
think people notice the fact that there is no injury
clause in that contract, So that tells me. Despite the
fact the Buccaneers went to the draft again to get
another wide receiver, I think that's more long term looking,
knowing that Mike Evans is probably in this last year

(02:22):
or two at this point, and that's, hey, let's get
a value Tobuka who shouldn't have been there on the board. McMillan,
It was a nice fine, and I actually thought he
was very valuable last year, more than a lot of
people even in the draft. But that being said, I
wouldn't put him as an alpha on this team. And
you want somebody alongside Godwin who I'm gonna be talking
about like a Mike Evans, and that could be a
Buka going forward next year. But I think Godwin. Everything

(02:44):
right now is presenting. This isn't the AUK situation. Everything's
presenting like week one is gonna be ready. This team
is confident in the contract and didn't put a clause
in there to say, Okay, if he's not, if he's heard,
if it's aggravated again, we can get out of half
the deal. No, they gave him that contract and it
sounds like he's going to be fine. And we saw
and I'm not even expecting what we saw last year,
which the first half of the season. You guys both
know this the number one fantasy wide receiver. So even

(03:08):
if he's only mid wide receiver two, high end wide
receiver two, it's still a value at where he's going.
I think this is pure injury scaredness, and I understand it.
But in this case, I'm still drafting him as a
pushing top fifteen at.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
This point in our draft kit that's coming out very soon.
I'll even be out by the time you see this
video over on the YouTube channel. Godwin was one of
those must haves for me, and because of the ADP
currently where he's at and Alfredo, as Jake was mentioning,
he was on pace for a career season, So whether
or not he was confident a wide receiver, one that's
neither here nor there. Baker Mayfield, obviously the last two years,

(03:44):
has taken a real step forward, and Godwin a huge
part of that development for him.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, And I think, honestly, the biggest thing for me
when it comes to Godwin is that he's already mentioned
this in camp. He's going to be staying in the slot.
He knows that's where he works best, the team knows
that's where he works best. Baker Mayfield has had an
affinity for slot receivers throughout his career, so with him
staying there, it kind of eases a lot of my concerns.
And Jake, you mentioned the injury stuff, Like, I think

(04:10):
a lot of the biggest concerns that people have are
all getting answered this offseason. So he's probably gonna end
up being a big value in drafts if things keep
trunting the way they are.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Another guy wide receiver that I think is going to
be a big value in the next guy Alfredo's going to
talk about Jackson Smith Injigba of the Seattle Seahawks. Certainly
all the target volume is there for him. I guess
the only question is can the offensive line keep Sam
Darnold up right long enough to find him? But certainly,
I mean, if volume is king, JSN could certainly be

(04:39):
on a throne this year.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah, man. And what I like about what they're going
to be doing in Seattle is you're right about the
offensive line. But you know what, it wasn't good last
year and that still worked for Gino Smith as well.
And it's almost poetic that the Seahawks just keep getting
these old New York Jets retread quarterbacks that just like
found second life in the end of their career here.
But cool, it's Sam Donald in there with him. He's

(05:02):
got a little bit of a connection here with Clint
Kubiak and that play action offense that he really likes
to run a lot of. We saw it have some
success early on in the season in New Orleans and
then injuries to Derek Carr, injuries to Chris Alave, everything
just started to fall apart. Rashi Chihid too. With this offense,
I think we're gonna see JSN moving around a ton.
Last year, JSN was the wide receiver eight in half

(05:24):
PPR points per game, and that was with DK Metcalf
and Tyler Lockett on the field. Now you've got Cooper
Cup in there, who's thirty two years old. He has
missed a ton of games, eighteen games over the last
three seasons. Those final five games of last year were
just really, really bad from a production standpoint. Couldn't get
open the same way he was before. I know a
lot of people are worried about the Seahawks having a
redundancy of well, Cooper Cup plays the slot, JSN plays

(05:47):
the slot. How could they possibly exist? Let Cooper Cup
go and play the slot. Let JSN be the guy
that's getting moved around the whole formation by Clint Kubiak
as the X and the Z and going in pre
snap motion, and they're going to be funneling targets to
him in this offense. So that's what I see happening
for the Seahawks this year. And if I can get
Jasn as the third player on my team and go
running back heavy, I think that's an awesome way to start.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Jake, do you have any concerns about where JSN lines
up this year?

Speaker 2 (06:13):
I don't have a ton of concern to honestly, mostly
because if you're looking at the usage. And we did
a show a couple of weeks ago and I was like,
you know, Cooper Cup, where he's going, I think would
be a value because if we're worried about the offensive
line and Sam Darneld panicking and seeing goes blah blah
blah blah, Well, who's going to be that option. It's
going to be over the middle of the feelers short and
get the ball out of there to Cooper Cup because
Smith and Jig was going to be moving around, as

(06:35):
Fredo said, And I think the big thing here is
that any concerns that seemed to be mentioned seemed to
be like, I don't know if he can well, by
the way, I don't know if he can. People said
about Justin Jefferson coming out of college, Smith and Jig
but can do fine outside.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, well, if that's the level, then we should all
be very excited to draft Jasn. I'll we get that far,
but let's continue the conversation about some of these guys
in the early rounds that might be little undervalued. Jake,
who's next on your list?

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, I gonna go over to running back. And I'm
a little surprised at this one because it felt like
everybody was excited for Chase Brown to be inside the
top ten and even pushing the top probably second tier,
not the first tier with Barkley and Bijon and stuff
like that, but in that next group of like the
Gind's and the Derreck Henry's of the world and stuff
like that, and everybody's like, well, well, most have to
see what they do in free agency. They didn't do anything. Well,

(07:23):
let's see what they have to do. In the draft.
They didn't really do anything. They drafted another Chase Brown
at the end of the draft, and then everybody's like, well,
I'm not gonna move them up. Why you wanted to
move them up. You wanted them to be in that
value you wanted to be. Oh, by the way, what
he was last year when he had the lead, which
was pushing top seven last year. From that point on,
and nothing really changed besides depth on this team and

(07:44):
everybody's not moving them up. This one's kind of baffling
to me because I felt like the fantasy industry was
ready to embrace Chase Brown after last year and wanted
to embrace them. I'm bracing Come here, buddy, like I'll
give it, Like we can be friends.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
All year long.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
I'll take plenty of Chase Brown in the second round,
mid to early second round, and ares still going behind.
Like at Jacob's the workload at this point, it is there,
but I think there's a higher ceiling with Chase Brown
Jonathan Taylor injured every single year the quarterback situation. I'll
take the upside of Chase Brown. I'm not saying necessarily
you have to take Brown over them. It's just instead
of drafting those question marks, maybe look at wide receiver

(08:19):
and then get Chase Brown after them. Anyway.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
See, I think that's the point, and I hate this.
I agree with you already on the person two guys
that you've named so already it's off to a terrible
start on the show. Say, but the concept that I had,
which is why in the draft kit on Fancy Brosi's
one of my must have is because I am a
heavy wide receiver build person right away. So if Chase
Brown's gonna float around a little bit and give me
RB one potential again, and let's not forget too the

(08:44):
first month of the season, the usage was hardly there
and he still cracked that RB one ceiling. So Alfreido,
I know there's some concerns sometimes about the you know,
the size of Chase Brown holding up. But if the
Bengals don't have enough concerns to really bring in real competition,
then why should we have concerns.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, and that's the big thing is like a lot
of the people that still have concerns about Chase Brown,
they say, well, Zach Moss when he was on the field,
Chase Brown. Really it's like, well, guys, if they were
looking to bring in someone else, they probably would have
just done it like that. We didn't see that happen
at all in free agency. We didn't see that happen
in the draft. They did it late where they got
Taj Brooks, who, like I'm not the biggest fan of either.

(09:22):
They got somej P. Ryan back I believe if I
remember that correctly, Like, yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's it's a
perennial Bengal, but this is also a team that's just
everyone kind of laughs and jokes about the defense. It's
like a meme at this point that the Bengals just
gonna be passing the ball constantly, and Chase Brown really
found his home in the passing game, getting dump bass

(09:42):
from Joe Burrow and if his offensive line is still
going to struggle and Chase Brown is going to be
on the field as often as he has been at
the end of the last year. Yeah, I'm all in
on that, and I don't really have concerns about the
size we've got. Actually, another guy I'm going to talk
about here that also has size concerns, so it doesn't
bother me.

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Speaker 1 (11:16):
Who's next on your list? As you alluded to, who
might be a little on the undersize?

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, I mentioned a diminutive running back and I'm actually
really surprised that Kien Williams is going as the RB
twelve in fantasy drafts right now. I know it's early
and things might change. But seeing that I can get
Kyron in the middle of round three and kind of
go with your strategy, Joe's like, go and get two
really good wide receivers early and then be able to
get my sort of hero running back in the third

(11:40):
round just seems a little unfair. Especially guy he's been
running back six in total Fantasy points in back to
back seasons. Last year was like this horrible year for everyone,
and he was running back ten. Like I don't understand
really what we're doing. He was running back two in
points per game of the year before that, Kien Williams.
He is still the straw that stirs the drink of
the offense. I know, we're all very excited about DeVante

(12:02):
Adams being there, and Puku Nakua is obviously an incredible weapon,
but this team really relies heavily on Kyron. And then
there's much being made about Jarques Hunter being on this roster.
I mean, I'm old enough to remember we were doing
the same thing about Blake corm last year and it
was just still Kyrone Williams and they're already talking to
Karen about let's get an extension. Mind you, last year,
the Rams had one of the toughest schedules for fantasy

(12:24):
running backs, and Kiren was still really good for fantasy production.
This is just the guy that he's on the field
for passing downs. He's on the field at the goal line,
even though Blake Koran was supposed to take that last year.
If this offense is better with Davante Adams being there
instead of Cooper Cup, I see even more scoring potential
for the Rams offense and for Kyron Williams. So yeah,
I love being able to get Kien Williams here in

(12:45):
the third round as my hero running back. Twenty six
touchdowns in twenty eight games. Yeah, give me that all
day in the third round.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yeah, as long as Matthew Stafford again can stay healthy.
The age is always a concern with him. But Kyin
Williams from week seven to week eighteen and half PPR
was RB ten. Jake. I actually had this conversation the
other day with Fitzi and Debro on a show, So
I'd love to get your take on Kiren here, because
my whole thing was, you know, sometimes the industry quote unquote,
you know, they don't like a player or they're not

(13:11):
prepared for a player to have success, and then they do,
and then they write them off. The next year they
burn them again, and the industry collectively and all the
analysts continue to ignore him. I feel like that's kind
of what's happening with Kyen Williams, Like, well, because we
didn't choose him, we don't want to anoint him. Meanwhile
he continues to produce. Do you feel like there's a
bit of that going around Karen Williams.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Jake, absolutely, mostly because and I'm not trying to be like, haha,
look at me, but like I didn't like Kyraen Williams
coming out of college. I'm a Notre Dame fan. I'm
most look at Jake. Everyone look at Jake like I'm
inherently biased against Notre Dame running backs, estimate, because they
have so much benefit from that offensive line and their
way that offense runs and everything like that. So it's

(13:53):
hard for me to like them. But after his first opportunity,
Boggin I would actually like him and tried to talk
me into and it took a little bit for me
to come around, but I did. I think that's the
problem with fantasy and people who analyzed the NFL in general.
It's like we're we try to like move from our biases,
but they're still inherently there just a little bit. And
I love what Fredo said, like I was gonna bring

(14:15):
it up. It's ian hardest. He tweeted it about two
weeks ago, and it was all these things that like, oh,
I love this player, look for these touches, blah blah blah,
and like he's like man Hunter's a big threat. And
it was all quotes about Korum last year. And that
was his point, is that we just did this. I
put out a tweet a few weeks ago twenty eighteen,
John Kelly round six, twenty nineteen, Henderson round three, and
I'm gonna go I won't go through them all. But

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twenty eighteen to twenty twenty five, the Rams had drafted
a running back in rounds two through seven every single year.
This is just what they do. It is not a
threat to Kyraen Williams. But I will say this until
he falls flat on his face and McVeigh will pull
out the rug and immediately switch. But until that happened,
you can't play that game. That could happen with seventeen

(14:57):
to the thirty two running backs in the NFL. It
could happen, and I'm not gonna play that game. I'm
with Fredo if you're gonna give him to me in
the third round every single time he's gonna come off
the board to my team.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
I'm with you three for three on this one. There
we go, all right, too much agreeing. Let's see we
can find some disagreement when we go to rounds five
through eight here and see if we can find some names. Alfredo,
why don't you kick us off with one here. Let's
start with a wide receiver down pretty close to where
you are living these days.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yeah, yeah, I'm you know what. I kind of like
how Jake said with his Notre Dame anti like bias.
I'm the same way with Dolphins players. I have been
anti Dolphins players every single year, and for the most
part it's been really helpful, except for the Tyreek Hill
year where he just popped off. But I'm back in
on Jalen Waddle right now. And a lot of that
has to do with won his price right now at

(15:43):
wide receiver thirty going in the sixth or seventh round sometimes,
and I get the concern. Last year the Dolphins offense
was really bad, so much of that, and these concerns
still exists, so don't hear what I'm not saying. But
so much of that was the health of Tuatungua Bailoa
and the offensive line, and some of these concerns have
been quelled a little bit. Offense line is a little
bit better. They've got some more consistency there with players

(16:03):
they know they're actually going to be in the game
each time, not thron Armstead missing practice and missing games.
And then the other thing here was he was catching
passes from Snoop Huntley and like a bunch of other
randos that were coming in at quarterback, and so the
entire offense was thrown off. And one of the things
I keep hearing is, like John new Smith, what a
value this offense is going to keep going through him?

(16:24):
And like, guys, I love John new Smith. He went
to my alma mater FIU, He's on my favorite NFL team,
the Miami Dolphins. I have every reason to support this guy.
And I just don't think a professional NFL offense is
going to continue to run through John new Smith or
else we would have seen that throughout his career. It
would shock me if the Dolphins don't go back to
Jalen Waddle, who if you look year after year after year,

(16:47):
this is the outlier season where all of a sudden,
he's not getting one hundred plus targets, He's not one
of the top two and targets on his team. A
lot of that had to do with that quarterback change.
And right now, Mike McDaniel and the Miami Dolphins, all
the news out of camp is that they're trying to
get back to what made them successful two years ago.
Get the ball out quicker, get the ball deeper downfield.
That works with the skill set of Jalen Wattle and

(17:08):
Tyreek Hill. I'm way more worried about Tyreek Khill, who
I won't draft in the third round.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
That's fair, that's fair. I don't think Mike McDaniel is
long for his job this year. I think he might
be the first guy off the island, to be honest
with you. But Jalen Wattle does have you know, three
previous seasons of more than one hundred targets in each
one of them. So that's if we're getting back to basics,
that would certainly be the way to go. And Jake
to Alfredo's point too, if Tyreek Hill has loss of
step or isn't the same player or is starting to

(17:34):
fade away a little bit, then shouldn't that mean a
little bit more Jalen Wattle love.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
So this is the first when we get a little
bit disagreement on it. And the thing is, I'm not
completely off Jalen Waddell because where he's going, I don't
hate that much. I'm just off the Jalen Widdele. And
I know Freda wasn't saying this that like the top
twenty the top twenty two, like that's who Waddle's going
to be, and this is like he's that good and
remember that wide receiver one season, mostly because it's not

(17:59):
him in himself. Like his issue for me is I'm
tired of the same injuries. It's always the leg. It's
always the leg. It's always the leg. So that's one.
But like we don't want to play the injury game
too much. Like I would downgrade him a little bit.
I'm not gonna go crazy for that. But it's kind
of a little bit more what you said, and it's
what the NFL does. We play this give and take
the offenses do things the NFL and reacts defensively back

(18:19):
and forth and back and forth. And what really killed
the Dolphins last year for people who didn't watch Dolphins
and only saw the box scores, it wasn't necessarily the
injury to Wattle, It wasn't necessarily the injury to Tua
is that the NFL saw McDaniel and they said, you
know what, we're gonna shell the crap out of you.
We're gonna and it's not just like when people hear show.
It's not just the over shell. It's like they actually
played sides of the field shells and they were just

(18:41):
keeping everything in front and front and front because they're like,
this is how we're gonna stop you, and we're gonna
stop everything in your offense. And why you said that
is like McDaniel might not be long for this world
is because he didn't adjust yet. Like I give him credit,
like he might still have that in him. But that's
my concern. If to a hill and waddle this all
dops doesn't adjust. The book is out how to stop

(19:03):
the Dolphins right now, and they need to come back
and fight back. And if they don't, that's why I'm
concerned about wild So as a wide receiver. Three yeah,
all day long. Anything higher than that, and I'm going
to be out.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
In the half point PPR consensus on Fantasy pros. God
wins at twenty nine, Wattle's at thirty, and I think
that's the biggest reason I'd be out on Wattle until
that changes, because I just you know, I think we
all agree Godwin's just in a far better situation they
are potentially in twenty twenty five, let's talk about but
certainly there's room where Wattle could be the adjustment guy
and it becomes a great value as well. Jake. Let's

(19:36):
go to another wide receiver, this time a rookie in Carolina,
and Dave Canalis has done a terrific job. I mean,
when you can successive years turn Geno Smith, Baker Mayfield
and then Bryce Young around. I don't know what sort
of award do they give for that, but I think
Dave Canalis deserves one. And it's true. I mean, the
Panthers were plucky. They covered a ton of games. At
the end of last season two, they were really I mean,

(19:58):
if you wanted to make some money, it was better
the Panthers to cover because they were finding a way
to stay in there. And now they've got a guy
who could potentially be that alpha dog number one wide
receiver that they really have lacked in that offense.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, one percent. I guess Canalis would be, uh, who's
the guy with the iern with the undertaker that's basically
well that would you know, saying he's the one holding
it as all these quarterbacks bust open their cast.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Is called him Percy Pringle, that's what you called him.
I mean you're looking at I was gonna look at
Paul Bearer, but I Pringles that I thought you were
asking me like I thought you were testing my wrestling
knowledge for a second on Percy Pringle. But yeah, I mean, yes,
Paul Bear.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
He's the pall bear and like all these quarterbacks might
have a caskets. And I say that to say, is
I'm in on Bryce Young too. I don't think people
realized how good he played even under pressure, how well
he played under pressure at the end of the season.
But the real benefit here is gonna be McMillan. I mean,
everybody talks about who's the one on all these offenses
and this target volume, target volume, target volume. And we

(20:56):
talked about Adam Thielen just two years ago speaking of
wide receiver that were inside the top ten and even
the top five, and at one point that year he
was the number one wide receiver in the NFL. Oh
by the way, with the target volume from Bryce Young,
it's like, I don't think Adam Feeling is going to
be that thing anymore. I don't know how much he
has left and I likely get I like these options
that they have in a feeling cooker, but nobody is

(21:16):
McMillan and McMillan. I don't know why he got some
draft hate right before we got to the NFL draft.
It's one of those ones I feel like the Ohio
State receivers kind of get year after year. It's like,
all right, we're just tired of talking about how good
they are. Let's find somebody else to talk about instead.
And McMillan and the Hunter were clearly the best in
this draft class. I think if you put him in
last year's draft class, they're going right after O'doonza, Harrison

(21:40):
and Neighbors. So McMillan put on this team. If Bryce
Young is even close to what he was those final
eight games, he's walking into potentially a top twenty five,
even top twenty season. So for where he's going right now,
and I feel like the market will adjust on that
as we get closer to the season. He's a supreme
value at least as of right now.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
I'll free tech McMillan certainly. As Jake said, maybe there
was such fatigue in the draft space, in the Dynasty
space of talking about him too much. But I love
the selection. I thought it was great, and I think
it's a high time that the Panthers not miss on
some early round picks because I think that has been
the biggest setback for them time and time again, is
just having the whole board to themselves and whiffing time

(22:20):
after time. So what is your take on McMillan this
year as a rookie, because you know, sometimes we put
too much on rookies, sometimes not enough. Where do you
think we are with McMillan and his ranking currently?

Speaker 3 (22:32):
I mean, this would have been my pick for the
show had Jake not gotten to the show sheet first.
So yeah, I learned to ja wat, I.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Learned I got shot alert, and I'm like, I gotta
run to it these days because Bogman's like.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Instantly, yeah, man, Like, So I think what everyone gets
nervous about is what happened last year with like a
Marvin Harrison junior. The difference was he was going in
the second round, third round maybe in certain drafts. Tech
McMillan's good. Excuse me, he doesn't like to be called
Tech McMillan. Team at Teteroa McMillan, he's going much later
in drafts, and it's like, to me, that's where the value

(23:04):
is going to be if I can get that same
kind of production that we were hoping for out of
Marvin Harrison junior.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
We saw what.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Happened with with Adam Steelen late in the season. He
was a guy that was almost week for a week,
just the top fifteen, top twelve wide receiver, especially in PPR.
So insert Tetoa McMillan, a guy who's far more talented
at this point and more athletic at this point in
his life. Because Adam Delan's like my age. We're just
old people now, Like it's not old for the earth,
but like old for football. And I mean, I just

(23:31):
I love the situation for Ted McMillan here, just to
be peppered with targets.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, certainly seems like a good one, that's for sure.
I'll fred let's get to another one of the guys
on your list here. It's a running back, Isaiah Pacheco
of the Chiefs. Now another one too where I think
expectations were high last year, people were let down. Now
the draft value is better, So why are you buying
back in.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
I'm buying back in because he's the running back twenty
nine in drafts, which is I don't know to me,
Like that's just weird, Like I don't know what we're doing.
This is the starting running back on the Kansas City
Chiefs and an Andy Reid offense with Patrick Mahomes, And
I think that we have been so on the Chiefs
train for so long and last year was so disappointing
that we're maybe taking it out on the people that

(24:13):
don't deserve it. Like I get the Travis Kelce concern,
you know, and I get some of the people that
are like, I'm not gonna be drafting Patrick Mahomes, He's
going way too high. But the guys like Rashi Rice
and Isaiah Pacheco, who are probably going to be the
stalwarts of this offense, I want every piece of them
that I can get, especially a round seven or eight
for Pachecko. I mean early last year. I know it
was just a really small two game sample size, but

(24:35):
he was getting twenty one opportunities a game just to
start off the season. He was looking really good. Year
prior to that, he was looking very good as well.
And then he breaks his leg, comes back and has
basically the toughest five game stretch of the Chief's running
back schedule for fantasy football, and we're all just like,
you see, he can't play anymore, like dude came back
from a broken fibula after nine weeks, goes up against

(24:58):
a bunch of tough opponents, which, by the way, Kareem
Hunt was terrible against them as well, and then yeah,
it just didn't get any better in the playoffs. But
all that is coming back too early from this injury.
So I look at this and I say, Okay, they
didn't make the moves. Similar to what we talked about earlier,
they didn't make moves in free agency. They got Elijah Mitchell,
who's basically just kind of been the journeyman at this point,
and then Brashard Smith, who I know a lot of
people are high on, but he's also just the seventh

(25:20):
round pick sort of gadget guy who was a former
wide receiver. So there's not a lot here that tells me, Okay,
the Chiefs they're going to be moving away from Isaiah Pacheck. O. No,
if anything, given the struggles that Travis Kelsey has had
to get open, whatever might happen with Rashi Rice and
a potential suspension, they might have to lean on the
running game more than ever this year. So if they
have all these weapons that can open up the offense,

(25:41):
I really love Isaiah Pachecko this year, especially where he's
going in drafts.

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Travis Kelcey and certainly not the same Chiefs that we're
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(26:46):
again I feel like a run where they just grid
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Maybe the record kind of hid some of the warts
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the fashion which they lost, typically next season does not
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visit Microsoft dot com Slash Challengers to learn more. All right,
I hate this, Jake. The next guy on your list
again is one of my favorite picks. So I can't
wait to draft with you this season. It's gonna be
a good time. We're gonna be fighting over the same guys.
In fact, in your flex league last year, everybody was
turning their head when I drafted Justin Fields way earlier
than anybody would have possibly thought. And I thought I

(27:51):
was a genius for the first six weeks of the
season when he was a top six QB only to
be undone by Mike Tomlins. So Tomlin's out of the equation.
So Jake, am I safe to get excited about justin
Fields again, you.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Are because outside of injury, I don't see a situation
where Fields doesn't get the chance to start the entire
year for the Jets. And the thing here is you
said he was the sixth Well, guess what. Go back
to twenty twenty two, by the way, when he threw
twenty two hundred yards and seventeen touchdowns and he was
QB six in points per game and overall. Yeah, actually
his points per game that season. Almost every single season

(28:26):
for the past decade he'd be at least QB six.
There was one season he would have been QB seven.
Oh whoo, the freaking do like? This is the point,
Like it's a running situation. Like you can have the
conversation whether you like that for the scoring and maybe
you want to change it for your league. But the
truth is, when you run that much, when you have
a thousand rushing yard upside over a full season by
the way, that was fifteen games, not even seventeen games,

(28:48):
when you ran for eleven hundred yards that year, you
have to take into account. This is why Jane and
Daniels last year was a great rookie pick. When you
have that rushing upside, you have to chase it, and
it means you can have a mediocre passing season, and
by all accounts, it was a terrible passing season. Let's
go back to Daniel Jones rushing for seven hundred and
seven touchdowns and threw only what not even a touchdown
per game and was a top ten quarterback that season.

(29:09):
That's all that comes into play, because if he starts
even fifteen games, he's going to be top ten. Locked in.
You have to take this chance, you have to take
the upside here. I'm with you this year, like he's
going to be on so many of my teams because
if I don't get the top five, including Joe Burrow,
I'm just waiting and taking Justin fields every single time.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Well, it's nice, it's nice as you're finally catching up
to me a year later. It's nice to see.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Afraid to work, that's the problem.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Well it should have worked. Why you're replacing a guy
where the quarterback who's got nothing left ten years older
than him. And then and then they had the nerve
the Steelers to go, hey, Justin, you want to come
back after we replace you with Russell Wilson. Could you imagine,
Oh my god, look you don't have to have a
lot of pride to walk away from that situation. I
would have too if I was him, but Alfreid to look,
it might now look pretty all the time. It might

(29:53):
not impact the Jets win total every single week, but
we're talking fantasy here, and with that rushing equity and
the rushing upside that he brings, and you hope that
maybe Garrett Wilson, that connection means something again for the
two of them their Ohio State days. Why not Justin
Fields in twenty twenty five being a guy that could
be your late round QB success story.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah, I'm fine with him, especially at price where he's
at right now. I mean, the Jets don't really have
anyone else in the roster that's really challenging him for
that starting quarterback role. They've got him in a pretty
good ecosystem. This might be the best offensive line they've
had in years. And I know that that's a big part.
A big weakness in Justin Field's games throughout his career
has been you know, he's taking too many sacks and
he's always looking to run really quick before making the

(30:38):
big plays in through the air. So I think this
might actually be Justin Field's best situation of his career
to try to succeed and a team that's going to
commit to the run a bit more and then try
to win games with their defense. So yeah, I mean,
if he's in a if this was ever a situation, man,
it seems like the Jets is that situation for Justin Fields.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
I've never been more excited for a Week one Jets
Steelers game that I am this year. I mean, I mean,
come on, put it in by Veins. I want it. Yeah,
let's do it. Let's get to some more players on
our list. This time, we're gonna go a little bit deeper.
We're gonna go round nine and above Jake. Let's start
with another running back. Now, this guy I was in

(31:19):
on last year and I was wrong, just did not happen.
But talk to me about Jalen Wright in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
You're just a year too early, and we're going going
back to the I know, man, Just go back and
read all my content for twenty twenty four.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Go get the twenty twenty four Black Book, and you'll
probably win all your leagues.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Jeez, so rough, I will say, if the Dolphins get
right jailing right no pun intended. If they get right,
here's gonna be the benefit here. And we saw rahemost
before And there was a few shows ago where I
said we were talking super deep, like off the radar
rookie sleepers, and I brought up Ali Gordon to say, like,
if they're looking for the power option of the goal line,

(31:57):
and people came from me in the comments and like, no,
I don't think going to be the number two? Is
it a non zero chance. Yeah, it could happen, just
because he's the best of anybody on this team probably
in that scenario. But Wright can do it. He just
probably can't do it as well. But you're filling a
Raheem Moster role here, and that explosiveness is something that
most had. But Moster had a little bit more power
than a Chan does and Wright does. The big thing

(32:19):
here is hoping that Right shows enough to be the
complimentary piece despite both of them having great speed. I
would actually call Jalen Wright kind of a James Cook. Oh,
by the way, James Cook just ran for double digit
touchdowns last year, so it could happen for the Bills.
So if this team's gonna get right and they're gonna
go back to their one two punch, and a Chan's
gonna do a Chan things and they're looking for that
second option Jalen Wright, as you said, everybody was excited

(32:41):
for him last year. There was a lot of people
in the industry deservedly so in on him because of
those James Cook's similarities. And everything went wrong, including Right
not having his best rookie season, fumbling his chance at times,
and actually dealing a little bit with injuries. Who is
dinged up too? But it's clear path now Alexander Madison
not a threat? Who are you kidding? So Right getting

(33:01):
one hundred and eighty touches, and then if something were
to happen to a Chan, here's the best part about it.
If something happens to a Chan, he steps in for
a Chan, it's trying to find who the number two
would be at that point. So it's almost like kind
of going back to most her. It's like a double
edged good sword. And the fact that, like, if something happens,
it's not like he's gonna get leaped by somebody who
replaces eight Chan better than he would.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yeah. Look, I have the same thought process last year
with Right, and then he did get a little bit
of an opportunity in a window, and he fumbled it away.
There's no doubt about that. But to New Year's a
new opportunity. A Chan is one of these guys. I
know it's exciting. I know it's fun to watch. The
ADP scares me afraid of I'll be honest with you.
I feel like I'm constituted to look and say, okay, eight,
Chan's the guy that I know is gonna be good

(33:44):
on someone else's team and not mine. That being said,
are you taking any Jalen Wright shares just to kind
of hedge.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
That, I mean, yeah, if he falls to me this
late in drafts, like sure, why not? I mean, I
think exactly what Jake said is true that if a
Chan is to miss time, I'm right as the guy
that jumps in there as the lead back with Ali
Gordon kind of being the next guy behind him. I
honestly don't think Alexander Madison makes the roster, Like if
he does, he's probably sort of like a Jeff Wilson

(34:10):
that's just the fourth guy on the roster and hanging
out for a little bit. The thing the struggle for
Jalen Wright as a rookie was coming out of Tennessee.
They did not run a very conventional offense for college,
where everything was so spread out that he was going
up against like five man defensive boxes and that was
just unheard of. So he didn't really have a lot
of practice with finding real rushing lanes. And then you

(34:32):
get to the NFL and it's like, oh, going up
against the Patriots defense and the Jets run defense, and
the Bills run defense, and these guys are actually pretty
good and they're stacking eight players in the box. It's
very different. So it was a bit of a learning curve.
If this guy can actually be the guy that we
saw on film and have the speed and kind of
be that Raheem Mooser replacement. Yeah, I'm all in.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
All right, let's switch gears. We gave Justin Fields a
lot of love Frado, but I want to go talk
about another quarterback with some sneaky upside in the rushing department,
Drake major List. Let's talk about why.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
I figured you'd like this one just be a Patriot thing.
It hurt me a little bit.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
I know the reasons I like it, but I want
to hear your reasons why you like it.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
I mean, at quarterback sixteen going in like the middle
of the tenth round essentially here. Yeah, I'm all in.
I love the late round quarterback strategy that it's making
a comeback now. And don't don't hear what I'm not saying.
Elite quarterback is still there, Like, go after the Lamar
Jacksons and Josh Allen's. But if you miss out on
those guys, the Justin fields and Drake May's are all
available later in your draft. And we saw it last year.

(35:32):
Forty one percent, almost half of the top twelve quarterbacks
were all drafted a round nine or later. That was
guys like Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold, Jared Goff. They
were all going much much later, and a bunch of
those guys don't have the same rushing upside that Drake
May does. Drake May, this is actually gonn surprise a
lot of people. He was averaging more rushing yards per
game excuse a game or attempt. I wrote it out

(35:53):
here somewhere, but one of those he was doing better
than Josh Allen our NFL MVP here. And I think
that people are really underestimating the rushing ability for Drake
May in this offense. And we've seen Mike Vrabel, who, yes,
I know he's not the offensive coordinator here, but he's
been the head coach for Ryan Tannehill, a guy who
had some sneaky rushing upside, and he was quarterback ten

(36:13):
and quarterback eleven in the years that he was with him.
So this is something where I think this offense is
going to be a lot better. The ecosystems better. I know,
you guys have like five new offensive linemen on the roster,
potentially all five of them could be starting. Got Trevon
Henderson in the backfield, who's not only a good receiver
out of the backfield, but one of the best pass
blockers in this rookie class. You add Stefon Diggs, you
bring in Kyle Williams, and now there's talk of who's

(36:36):
going to be the top target for him. Is it's
still Pop, Doug Douglas. You know what, It's a good
thing we're having this conversation because in the past, there
was no conversation. There was no competition at the wide
receiver spot. So everything in the ecosystem is getting better
for Drake May and this Patriots offense, and I want
a part of that.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Well, Jake. I think the simplest thing too, is he
actually has an offensive coordinator in Josh McDaniels. I mean
it sounds, you know, we can laugh and mock about it,
but the coaching staff last year was woefully underprepared and
certainly not in a position to develop a quarterback. This
regime is and I think that's gonna make a huge impact,
not just from the weapons and the better protection and

(37:14):
the better defense too. That's not going to put him
in some of these weird spots that he got put
in last year too. But he showed he can make plays,
and he showed he can move his legs in college too,
he was a guy that could get out there in
space and do things. And he's got the right mentality too,
which is I feel like nothing bothers this kids, and
I think that's what you need if you're going to
succeed up there.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yeah, and this thing is, this is why I have
him right now in front of prety Dak Golf. I
mean a lot of pocket passers with only mild rushing upside.
I have him way ahead of Justin Herbert because Herbert
runs for three hundred, May could run six hundred plus
double down on that and let's talk about it. The
reason I bring up Herbert to say is Herbert's not
the Herbert from six hundred and fifty pass attempts over
a full season, especially now in the Harball offense. So

(37:54):
I say to say, I think their passing numbers could
be very similar. Well, then who am I going to take?
Rounds are earlier? If I mean hell, the cost is
actually cheaper, but rounds really is. The guy is probably
gonna double up the other one rushing up side. So
I'm in on May. The only hesitancy I have is
because everybody in the industry is on him. Just as
a forewarning, don't when you're watching the show. Remember if

(38:15):
you're drafting super late August and all of a sudden
amaze the eighth quarterback off the board, then you gotta
be like, this is unfortunately what happened? Enjoy it? Now,
be all in. We're all three all in. I know
plenty of people on Fantasy pros are, but bitch, I
just feel like he's gonna be the name, and he's
just gonna keep rising and rising and rising and rising.
He's gonna be up by like Baker and Joe Burrow
before it's too late. I don't.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
I don't think he's gonna go that far. I don't really, honestly,
I see where you're everybody talks about him. Yeah, But
I think the problem is I think the general public too,
is going to look at it and go, well, he
hasn't done anything yet and and they're not working. Please teams.
The Patriots offense has been bad. I'm just telling you
that's my feeling. I think the justin field stuff is
going to get crazy because I think anybody with a
brain can look at the rushing yards and see that.

(38:57):
But at the same time, I think it's difficult with
dre made for people to visualize sometimes what the future
is going to look like in twenty twenty five, when
the recent.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Been so invisible, you have fourteen weeks to worry about
your bye week quarterback with Drake May.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
That's also look, if you want free quarterback in a
single quarterback league, is Drake May, and you're in good
shape and he could take one of those other veteran
guys if you're having any concerns as a backup and
take a second one. There's no problem with that. Speaking
of backups, Jake's got a backup. He wants to take
him Buffalo, stay in the same division and talk about
Ray Davis.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah, I'm gona have a lot of sophomore running backs
this year apparently, and Ray Davis. Everybody was excited about
him last year. Everybody, myself included, was concerned about James
Cook being able to do more than he did the
year before. Hell, his Vegas let's remember this. His Vegas
rushing over under was three and a half. And I
remember that because Chris Meenie, our good friend, put.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Money on that.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
He was like, oh, I'm done. I don't have to
worry about this for the rest of the year and
like the end of September and it was the best
thing ever. But the interesting thing is, like there's all
this talk about, well, the contract coming up. Do they
really think he's the long term option? Was last year
a fluke blah blah blah even takes all.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
The half you're talking about the touchdown number? Was that
when you said the three and to a half that
what was that number you're talking was.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
The rushing touchdown prop to start last was.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
A rushing touchdown prop? Okay, Yeah, I just wanted to
make sure that was clear because you just you said
the number and I didn't hear what the prop was, Like,
I think the prop number. I know you were so
excited about the easy money. Fair enough, But for everybody else,
I want them to see.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
But that's like, just push all those factors aside for
one thing and then say, what are we doing fantasy?
We're trying to find who are these high end backups
and everything like Trey Benson and all the rest. If
something were to happen to James Cook, ray Davis is
going to go bonkers, just like we saw him in
a brief little flash that we did last year, because

(40:44):
he's on the damn Bills too. Like you could take
half the running backs in the NFL put him on
the Bills and they will be better running backs. And
we already like Ray Davis as a talent, so one
of the best high end backups. I probably put him
inside the top five and then there might be a
bit of a time share this year if the Bills
are playing the game in their mind. I mean it
could go either way. You could play the crutch argument, well,

(41:05):
they don't give him a contract, so they run James
Cook into the ground, or you could play it the
other way and say, well, maybe they want to get
more out of Ray Davis and see and maybe they
have a nice one two punch for future years. No
matter what way you cut it, Ray Davis at the
end double digit rounds is back in those days when
you were drafting like D'Angel Williams behind Le'Veon Bell, that
should be how you feel about Ray Davis.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Yeah, I mean, honestly late, I still like you, Jordan
Mason and guys like that with Aaron Jones in Minnesota,
like I look at that situation, go okay, I'm just
gonna take him later and stash him and wait and
hopefully that'll save me some free agent budget. When you're
looking at Ray Davis, Fredio Brown, what do you see
in twenty twenty five?

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Oh my god, my sweet baby boy, Ray Davis. I
was so in on him last year, and I had
people laughing at me from every edge of the world like,
oh yeah, he's like sixty four years old, congrats on
drafting the old running back. And Jake, I'm like you man,
like I was trying to get him in every single team.
What I love with Ray Davis is he's not just
one of these big plotters you'd think that by looking

(42:04):
at his size, but he's not just one of these
big plotters. He's actually one of the best at forcing
mistackles out in the open field, and he's so good
in the receiving game. And that's where I think the
big thing, like a lot of people miss, is that
he likely wouldn't be in some sort of time share
if something happened to James Cook, he would be the
guy getting work on all three downs because he's also
a really good pass blocker as well. So everything kind

(42:25):
of if the stars a ligne not saying that we
ever hope for injury or want that to happen, but
there's there's contract disputes going on right now, and like
the news isn't always great. I'm sure everything will get settled.
But Ray Davis is a really high end handcuff that
I want.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Sorry to jump back in, but I want to go
to Fredo's point again real quick, is that I compared
him with Jamal Williams. But like, let's remember that's kind
of why I wanted to go to that because what
Freda just says, like people are like, eh, he's kind
of what That's what people said about Jamal Williams for
the longest time, and then he got the option. It's like, oh,
he's actually a pretty good receiver. Oh he's actually a
little bit more explosive than we thought. Oh he could
be a top fifteen running back.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Yeah, well he's started scoring enough touchdowns for that a
couple of years ago, so doubt. Speaking of running backs
and contracts, I got a guy in his final year,
Travis Atn, and I know that the Jags drafted base
Scheal Tutin, who I'm a fan of. So here we go.
Now the argument begins, right, Jake was talking about, well,
it's the last year of his contracts, so you just
use him up and spit him out. You know, he's

(43:22):
also got Tank Bigsby in this backfield as well, So
how do you see the value working out for him?
Because you think he's an undervalue piece right now? Why
has Atn falling so far and why should people take
advantage of that? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (43:35):
And I can hear the people groaning from the other
end of the screen or listening to the podcast to.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Drop your comments below. Drop your comments below on the YouTube.
We love the comments here in the section.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
I know I get it, guys. If I was saying like,
you absolutely need to smash this ADP in the sixth
round because he's the running back twenty Yeah, come at
me with torches and pitchforks. Guys, he's running back thirty seven.
At this point, like there's almost no risk involved with
drafting him in the tenth round. He's gonna be the
lead running back for now. If it doesn't work out,
hey it was your tenth round pick, you burned. But
if it does work out, he's a year removed from

(44:06):
being the running back three in fantasy. He's gonna be
in a Liam Cohen offense. He's a guy who hasn't
always had the best hands, but he's been targeted out
of the backfield a bunch with Trevor Lawrence under center there,
and he's really the last starting NFL running back that
you can draft in fantasy outside of like Cowboys backfield,
which we don't even know who the starter is there.
So at this point Layton drafts I kind of like it.

(44:30):
I'm not the biggest fan of Tank Bigsby. I think
he's not gonna give you anything in the receiving game
Basejall Tooton I think is a really talented player. He
is a home run hitter. Okay, he's not gonna be
a guy that's gonna be in there on every single down.
And some people are going to either blow this way
out of proportion or undersell it to you. But yes,
there is a fumbling issue. Ten fumbles in two years

(44:51):
in college is not something that just goes away unless
he works on it. And we've just seen it happen
before with young players, especially rookies. If they put the
b on the ground, they don't get back into the game.
So I know that's Basehall. Tuton's the new hotness. He's
the young rookie that we're all excited about. But in
the tenth round, I absolutely love where Traves e TN
is going.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
All right, Jake, I think Alfredo's contact with ATN is
the most important thing here, and I think it's a
good argument because there is a guy who's looking for
whatever that next contract is going to be. So the
motivation is definitely there. The question is is there enough
to sink your teeth into, fantasy wise for you to
get excited about the value.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah, I would tell Fredo do not check the comments
because I brought him up.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
Oh, they're going to kill me.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Two weeks ago on Fantasy Pros and they came from me,
so I know what you're kind like they for me.
I made all the same points ALFREDA, I'm with you
and like and part of it is the fact that
it sounds like we're on the same page as I'm
not a huge Tuton fan from seems like everybody wants
to be actually said like kind of like DeAndre Swift,

(45:53):
which is funny because nobody likes DeAndre Swift and I
think they're very similar players. And what I say that
to bring up is that DeAndre Swists proven to be
best in a time share, and I think Tutin can
be best in a time share. I think Tutan could
even lead a time share, but that's no guarantee, especially
as you brought up, if you're not trusted with the ball,
that not put it on the ground. And two, he's

(46:14):
not going to be trusted in the pass blocking game,
at least to start. Like maybe he improves in that aspect,
but Etn was just top five running back two years ago,
and I know a lot of it came on the
first half of the season he fell off, but there's
still that opportunity there where he does lead. And that's
everything I said, and we are. I'm with you. We're
not saying draft him as a top twenty running back,
and yet everybody's gonna come for us. So Freda, when

(46:35):
I see you in New York, we can sit there
and coalesce over this whole situation, just like, yeah, that's nice.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
All the Traves, have a couple of drinks, watch some
Traves ETN highlights, it'll be well.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Drop your comments below of why you hate Travis at
and it subscribed to the YouTube channel right here. Fantasy
pros running get to three hundred thousand this year, and
we can do it with your help. Also, don't forget
as you are continue to look for some these undervalue
players and these you know, the guys you want to
put on your draft list. Well, you should be using
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(47:08):
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(47:29):
cheat sheet creator only available at Fantasypros dot com slash Sheet,
which is not an easy thing to say. Or of
course you can download the Draft Wizard app today. Gentlemen,
Great stuff for you, boy. I almost always stumble over that.
Someday I will and someday the YouTube comments will then
come from me afterwards. Great stuff, gentlemen. As always, check
out Jake's work at the Athletic. That'll do it for us,

(47:51):
But the story of the game goes on for Alfredo
and Jake. I'm Joey P. We'll see you next time. Kids.

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