2025 Fantasy Football Mock Draft | PPR Expert Picks (Ep. 1662) - FantasyPros - Fantasy Football Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, everybody, Welcome into Fantasy pros. I'm Ryan Warmley, joined
by three of my favorite people to talk to. It's
Scott Bogman, It's Chris Welsh, and it's Jake Seey from
the Athletic Guys. We are doing a PPR mock draft. Bogman,
I was just talking to you. I've done a lot
of Dynasty mock drafts with you this summer, not so
much on the redraft side, so I'm very excited to
be hosting this one and participating with you guys. I'm

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gonna pause a draft here. Just start here, Bogman, there's
a thirty second clock. I want to run through some
stuff at the top here before we get going. Shouts
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dot com slash mock All right, guys, before we dive
in here, we're kind of, you know, back half of August.

(01:29):
We've tested out some strategies here already. Welsh, is there
a particular strategy you're thinking about? I believe you're picking
tenth in this mock.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Uh, the winning strategy. I plan to be the winner
and be ranked the highest per usual. Now, I like
the I've been playing a little bit more with the
back end of drafts. I think in an article we
had on Fantasy pros where we're doing our perfect drafts.
I had laid out that, you know, like that five spot.
I did that a couple months ago, so I've had
a lot of and I think, you know, the five
spot is really nice. You know you're getting one of

(01:58):
four or five, maybe you're getting Aton Jefferson the Balls
or a CD Lamb. I feel like I've done a
lot of that. I've been slowly starting to press in
a couple of those, like ten elevens, just because I
really like the running backs that are right around there,
and I like the double tap of wide receivers. So
ideally I'm looking at like, you know, some combo of
two great wide receivers or running back wide receiver, and

(02:18):
I feel like that just kind of sets you up
through the rest of the draft. Though there are some weird,
you know, falling valuations on players with all the rumors
with like the Han injury and stuff like that. We'll
see what happens if anything funky goes on in this draft.
Speaking of we know we have the live ADPs that
are out there, so you can see all the funky
stuffs for everybody else not going to necessarily effect here,

(02:39):
but maybe we can kind of help represent some of those.
But we've got live ADPs available on Fantasy Pros to
make sure to go check out it as well.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Real Time ADP is an awesome, awesome new feature that
we have over at Fantasy Price. Jake, before we get
started here, anything you got going on at the Athletic.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, the best article ever, The biggest mistake everybody's making
in their leagues. Stop wasting your bench. Just came out
a few days goes getting a lot of traffic and
you can see why. So stop wasting your bench.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Definitely definitely take that advice. All right, And Bogman, you
have the first pick, Jamar Chase feels like a pretty
easy one. And you are, of course a Texas fed.
Are you considering Bijon? What direction are you going here
with the one oh one? And do you like having
the one oh one? Uh?

Speaker 4 (03:17):
One on one is okay by me. I like being
you know, near the front this year in the draft
because I like that swing at the turn at two three. So,
and Jamar Chase is a pretty easy pick. I am
a Texas fan. I love Bajon, but uh, with this
Cincinnati team having no defense and not working anything out
with Trey Hendrickson. I don't know how every game is

(03:38):
in forty eight to forty nine that they play this year,
So I think Jamar Chase is gonna have a lot
of receptions, a lot.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Of better make your pick. Do you like being this
close to Jake?

Speaker 4 (03:46):
Got it? No?

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Okay, that is not my favorite. I'll say that Jake
for you? Is it as simple as one of Chaser?
Bajon gets still the one or two? Are there other
names you consider there at the one to two?

Speaker 3 (03:57):
No, we need to resurrect that all the great poopball
on commercial and like roll down the windows and be
like Barkley, no Bijeon, So like, I have no problem
with taking Barkley in me. Yeah, it's the same tier Gibbs, Barkley, Bjeon.
But I think the point being is of the three
if you want to argue risk and you're I mean,
we are nitpicking between the three. I think Bjon's the

(04:18):
best all round option with the least amount of risk
and similar upside. But if Chase didn't go one on one, yeah,
that would be an instant click.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
It feels like a pretty standard start so far. Jamar
Chase one oh one, Bejon one O two, Gibbs goes three,
CD Lamb four, Justin Jefferson five, Christian McCaffrey six, Welsh
Did you think he might get down to you at
the one ten? He's kind of an interesting pick because
the upside is like one oh one level, but yeah,
injury risk kind of going all over the place in
the first round.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, I mean, definitely that ten spot. The hope is.
But you know what, McCaffrey has done nothing but rise
all season long. There was a time when we were
doing stuff where he was in the second round. Every
single time he has just creeped up and up because
of the health. And yeah, I mean me laying out
like I wanted the running backs later. That was one
hundred percent the reason. But I'm surprised McCaffrey went ahead

(05:05):
of Saquon Barkley. And Saquon Barkley is one. He's going
to go right in front of me, of course, but
Segwon Barkley is not gone. And I'm at the ten
and I just really wanted to have one potential theoretical
focus on running back here, but it was built around McCaffrey.
But he's on a rocket ship, man, And as long
as there's no little scaries or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
He is.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
He's going to stay there and they go.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
See, you know what just happened to you, Welsh? It's
this Jan Soto meme where he's just staring through the
fence in the outfield.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
That's you.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
You're like, you watch that value falling and falling and falling,
and it sniped right before.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
And one o nine is about as late as i've
I mean, I know people have been fading him with
the injury risk, but like after amen Ra, after neighbors,
like neighbors, is his own injury risk? Like that's one
of nine?

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Is pretty who currently has an injury a lead neighbors
last year?

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, couckly Pokah goes to Welsh here. I mean talking
about injury risk, it's not necessarily always his injury, it's
it's his quarterback. Do you feel confident in a Pookah
as a first round pick? West? I mean clearly you do.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, I mean this is PPR, This is full PPR.
Like the one thing we know is he's going to
get twelve hundred catches in two weeks. Like that's what
he does. It doesn't matter who the quarterback is it
could be uh, I mean, it could be a O'Connell
that's out there throwing him passes like he's gonna get.
It could be Daniel Jones. It doesn't matter. Like it's good.
I would have loved the value. As Jake said, I

(06:23):
was staring at Saquon Barkley falling to me to ten
because I wanted a back. Puka was too good of
a value. But I also like, I'm not too scared
off of a chan to not take him here and
Genty and Henry are there. This is kind of what
I wanted. I wanted like a back like that, and
then a high end wide receiver, so I could have
taken Gent and then maybe hope one of those wide

(06:45):
receivers will fall back. But there's dirt bags like you
that are drafting in front of me taking Gent in London,
So well.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Whoa I wanted to I wanted to do London Nico
as a pair.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
And then oh see, that's see where we get to
ask all the questions all the time. I was actually
gonna ask you the quot question this time. Was there
any thought in your mind? I would have immediately because
it's full point PPR I would have immediately quickly double
tapped London Brian Thomas Junior, but you went London and
genty because.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
So the main reason I did genty is because this
is a mock and I have not taken genty really
all season, and I wanted to kind of test out
taking him.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
You want to see what I felt like strategy.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
My favorite strategy has been doubling up the wide receiver
position with with the last pick in the first round,
so I did strongly consider that, but I feel like
I've done that before. I toyed the idea of Brock
Bowers too. Honestly, he's gonna catch a ton of basses
I think, and being in PPR and everything. But I
haven't taken genty really late, so I want to mix
it up. I did strongly consider two receivers, though.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
I would have loved that.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, I done it too. It's what I have It's
what I have typically done. But like I said, it's
a mock. You want to try new things, see what
the team looks like. Brian Thomas does go with the
next pick after I took genty. Welsh takes eight. Chan
then followed up his lad mcconcky then Derrick Henry, who
I could have also taken in with the running back
position instead of genty but Welsh going back to europic Ha,
we talked about him a little like there's some you know,

(08:02):
injury risk here now with him, but second round just
feels like a value.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Like listen, I'm I think there is some more. I
should be a little bit more worried about that pick
if I was drafting right now. So if you're draft
is in the next couple of days, when there's this
like ambiguous like you know, hey, like he's gonna be good,
but is he? And hey, we're talking about Brian Robinson,
like that is scary. But I just want to point
out this is a full PPR. Like a full PPR
if there was no worry, I think of a Chan
and the ankle and everything, he would be a first rounder.

(08:27):
He should be at the very tippy top as a
full PPR. So I'm taking on a little inherent risk.
There's a part of me that's looking back and being
like I could have taken gent D and then I
could have at worse gotten aj Brown. Would that have
been better? But a fully healthy a Chan, having Puka
an a Chan and a full PPR with my first
two picks. It's absolutely phenomenal. It's just I have taken

(08:48):
on the risk of a quarterback that's falling apart for
the wide receiver and a running back that might be
falling apart. So I'm gonna have to probably play it
safe a little bit. But you know, I'm on the
right tracks for PPR.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
It's the riskiest start that anybody has so far. You're
looking across where brock Bauers does finally go here at
the two eight. Like I said, I considered him early second.
I think at a PPR like he's just going to
catch so many passes. I really adore Bowers in the
early second. Jsen goes here at two nine. Chase Brown,
by the way, a j Brown Bucky irving to go. Also, yeah,
Chase Brown has has officially like kind of gotten into

(09:20):
the zecond round here most drafts that I'm in, he's
no longer a third round pick. So now Jake's on
the clock here with the two eleven. Who you're gonna
pair with Bijan Tyree Hill.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
That's how I feel about it. I don't know if
you heard my exasperated sigh. That was when Smith and
Gibbo went before my pick because especially in full point PPR.
But hey, if Hill is anything like he was two
years ago, even ninety five percent of it is going
to be a decent value. And the reason I did it,
I actually thought about doubling into my strength of going
with the running back, being able to know that Scott

(09:50):
was only there for two picks and not likely to
go rb RB. I can still get Josh Jacobs or
kier On on the way back. Because it's full point PPR,
the tie break is going to be Jacobs.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, so Jacobs, jon and tyreecause you're starting three, Bogman,
you're starting three so far as Mark Chase, Jonathan Taylor,
and Trey McBride, you take the other tight end. I
really like Trey McBride if you can get him in
the third round.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
Yeah, man, I love. This is why I like picking
early is to get either McBride or Kittle. I want
a top three tight end everywhere I'm drafting this season,
especially specifically in super Flex or non super Flex league.
So I mean, getting Trey McBride here with the first
pick in the third round I felt like was a
crazy deal. Bowers is kind of falling right now, there's

(10:33):
a little question as to how much he's gonna be
on the field because Mayer has been playing a lot
as well. I don't really buy that.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
I want to state on equivocally for the record that
I am not worried about that.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
It's it's just been talked about a little bit, That's
all I'm saying. But I have no worry about that.
I was hoping he would fall, but I didn't. I
didn't expect him.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Can I say the one thing I'm with you, I
still have Bowers the top tight end. But the point
being for hours was that I was never taking him
in the second round. And that's just even more reason.
It's not that my mayor's playing, is that it's the
two tight ends cents under Carrol and similar to the
days with Oj Howard. Because Black Bowers is such a
good blocker, he's not running the routes and that's that's

(11:15):
the end. It's just it's enough to Dingham of like,
this is why you don't take him in the second round?

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Is my whole point understandable. I didn't realize that you
were talking about it, Jake. It's just I had not
heard about it. From you.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
What do you mean that I was talking about? No,
I'm saying like this is what.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
Are you saying you Hay Brock Bowers? Yeah, the news
Yeah No, Jake seely despises Brocks in the second.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
I want to highlight the You know, Brandham is the
name of the user who took Bowers. He also takes
Josh Allen. Jake, what do you think about doubling up
on the luxury positions of taking an early tight end
and also an early quarterback.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
So I'm just going to be grumpy Jake today.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
I hate it.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
I will do one or the other. I will take
McBride in the third. I'll think Bowers in the third.
I'll wait and take Kittle in the fourth. I will
take a quarterback in the third or the fourth if
it's one of the elites, one of the four. But
I'll never do both. And it's not the fact that
it can't work. It's just you set yourself up to
the point where you're probably going to get that quarterback
value over everybody else in your league outside of two

(12:11):
or three teams. But now the tight end has to
be almost Travis Kelcey because of now you sacrifice two
rounds of running backs and wide receivers, and yes you
have an advantage, but you were so far behind the
April and the other ones that you have to have
those amazing seasons. It can work. I'm just never going
to do both.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Wels. You didn't have an option. One of the top
two quarterbacks are both gone. You didn't have an option
one of the top three tight ends. Are you considering
one of those? Or were you always going to go
running by? Sure?

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Was absolutely was. Thank you for reminding me warmly. I
was looking at Lamar Jackson. I was looking at George Kittle.
Kittle went right in front put myself in a position.
I don't hate Devanta Adams, but I have Pukam not sure.
I wanted my two top wide receivers to be Daniels
is there, Team Daniels is there. I was in a
blender there, I was in a complete blender of issues.

(13:00):
People might not love this. I passed Kyron and James
Cook for breecee Hall. But I just want to come
back to full PPR. And I know like people are
worried about Braylan all and everything, but like Breece is
going to be completely littered in the passing game. I mean,
he's going to be put out wide. This is what
he's going to be built for. This should be anywhere
from five to seven receptions a game, So I mean,

(13:21):
I think he's good for this format, but one hundred percent,
just like snipe TIMEE sipe side, Like, I just took
away all the strategies. I would have loved to have
taken Lamar Jackson, like in front of you. It would
have made me feel like all warm inside and I
just I couldn't have any of the stuff.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
I would have taken one of the lead quarterbacks that
got there. And by the lead, I mean those top two,
I do like Daniels and Hurts, but I decided to
pass in them. I would have considered one of the
tight ends they didn't get there. Kiren I have not
been taking a lot of but I felt like a
three twelve third round.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
He was points two behind a chan in points per game,
full PPR, full send, that was the easiest pick.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
You could have a value yeah, like like not again
not a typical target, but just too great of a
value there. And then I kind of decided, since I'd
already taken genty and Kyrin that I would just lean
into the robust running back here with this, with this
mock andcio it turns out, and so I took James Cook.
The fact that Kyen fell to the last week of
the third round makes you wish I had taken Brian
Thomas Junior with that second pick, because that I would

(14:17):
have had Kyrien as RB one with two elite running
or two elite receivers. So you know, you live and
you learn. That's the that's why we do box here.
So I take Hyen and James Cook. Treyvon Henderson goes next,
you know, early fourth for the rookie, but he's he's
risen a ton in preseason. And then whilse you do
take one of these these Tier one quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yep, I sure did. I'm super happy with how this
draft is going. Guys. Everything is going well, exactly the
plan that I came in here. Four Yeah, I'm not
looking back and just having any resentment or yeah, no,
things are going well. Jayden Daniels is a fourth rounder
is actually good. I'm just I am rethinking that third
pick had George Kittle just been there, well, you know,

(14:59):
let's go take a look. Let's go take a look
at who that awesome person was. Let's give a shout
out to Lucha Libre for Kittle right in front of me,
so just threw me off. I could have had Kittle
and Jade and Daniels and everything would have been great.
But thanks are going good Worm.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
I think I think Welsh has the team most likely
to finish in last if things go wrong, because it's
a lot of risk, but there's also a lot of
upside too. You just have the very high variant scene.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Do you not like me? Ryan? What happened? Do you
know you're being so rude today?

Speaker 1 (15:33):
You just said you were thinking about taking Labar in
front of me, so of course you know we are
antagonistic here. Let me read through some of the names
that have been dacon quickly after Welsh. Just pick DJ Moore,
DeVante Adams, Alvin Kamara, Jalen Hurts, Cortland Sutton, Terry McLaurin,
Marvin Harrison Junior, and then Jake.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
You took DK Metcalf I did, and I snipe Bogs,
which I know it just feels so good. I was
actually gonna take Terry McLaurin if he got there, but
I got taken. Two picks before that, and then Metcalf
is still on.

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Speaker 1 (17:21):
All right, Bogman, you doubled up here and you took
two folks from the same team.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Yeah, two Panthers, So you know things are going right
for me? Uh yeah, of course in this spot, I
was like, I have a great wide receiver. No matter
what you know, Marvin is still there, DK is still there,
and Tet was still there. So, uh, TET was the
one that fell because it went Marvin decay Tod Jake
and then me uh, and then Cuba Hubbard. To me,

(17:49):
it was between Cuba and James Connor as the last
like true workhorse backs left on the board. And I
just I do think Connor is a little more injury
prone and Trey Benson is breathing down his neck. I
really don't think Rico is breathing down Cuba's neck much.
So I went ahead and leaned towards Cuba there.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
I couldn't justify taking Tetoa McMillan with the first pick
of the fourth round, but I knew he wasn't going
to get back to me, so it did the thought
at least did cross my mind because I just I
just want all of the tetro at McMillan this year.
So you go, you doubloped the Panthers, Jake. You come
back in early round five with Calvin Ridley, who is
not ranked in this area amongst wide receivers, but I
think is a great pick. I like because he wasn't

(18:31):
going to get back to you, and I think he's
just a great value where he's ranked this year.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Yeah, I know, I already threw out my potential to
be the number one ranked team after this according to
the CONSEETSUS analysis and all that type of stuff, But
the fact this is Calvin Ridley should be a fifth rounder.
Calvin Ridley had one hundred and twenty targets of garbage
last year. He had four red zone and one end
zone target of garbage last year. And cam Ward coming
in what was the one thing we've already seen is like,

(18:55):
even if Ridley only catches fifty five percent of his
passes because they're big play downfield, Cam's flinging it downfield
and he's connecting because he's great at putting it on
the spot. I think you're looking at a potential. If
he gets one hundred and forty targets, Calvin Ridley will
be back inside the top twenty, maybe even set of
the top fifteen.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
I am up here, Welsch. You took Jalen Waddle, who
was the player I was eyeing.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
So the best is very much that you know what
we look like. By the way, while you're doing this,
what's that game, I'm completely forgetting what it's called. Where
like you're on the ship and you're those little beans, No,
you're the little beans, and like there's a killer and
what's that game called like everyone sucks among us, among us,
we look like among us characters. How did that happen?

(19:38):
I'm wearing red, worm is bright orange, we've got green
and black. That like, I know exactly who I'm going
to kill, and he's on hairscreen. He's above me. But
we became characters in this draft.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Some of the names that went off in that fifth round,
by the way, DeVante Smith, James Connor, Xavior Worthy, Jamison Williams,
Joe Burrow, George Pickens, Tony Pollard. That was good pick
Jalen Wattle to Welsh RJ. Harvey. I took Sam Laporta.
I just figured, like late round five, give him. We
saw his rookie season. I think that's that's worth it.
And an Zay Flowers, who I really have not been
taking a lot of, like honestly anywhere, I'm not that

(20:12):
eight on Flowers, but with three strong running backs and
already a wide receiver one ahead of him, I didn't
want to take a quarterback there. So I decided to
take a bit of a floor with Zay Welsh. You
took the guy that I actually was considering. I felt like, no, again,
it's it's similar to the Ttero McMillan passic on hym
where it's like, I know he's not going to get
back to me, but I felt like I just couldn't
get there. Two picks later, you take Ricky Piersaw, which

(20:34):
I think could pan out really well for you.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
I'm completing my tasks as an among us character. I'm
completing my tasks, and the task was always to get
Ricky Piersall. I absolutely would have taken Zay Flowers. Did
he come back? My order was Zay Flowers. No, it
was Jaylen Waddle, Zay Flowers, Ricky Pearsall. So you took
the other guy because I went with those early running backs.
This really worked out for me to get these guys.

(20:56):
So guess what, we're back. We're back. We're back to
love Act team. We got the league quarterback, we got
two high end PPR running backs, three wide receivers. Ricky Piterso,
by the way, is still mis ranked in so many
spots as the top guy. So like, I don't know
if the grades will love me here, but task complete that.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
That's a very good point that you bring up, Welsh
about the grades, because there are some picks that I've
considered making where it's like, well, it's not going to
grade well. But if I was in a real draft
and playing out a season, this is the guy I
would want to make sure I get, knowing he wouldn't
come back to me. So it's a little different way
to think about it. Yeah, I think it's I think
it's a it's a I'll give you some credit here
because I was harsh tot early. You pulled it back.

(21:36):
He brought it back again. Other picks being made in
the sixth rounder, she Rice Went, Chris Olave, DeAndre Swift,
Travis Hunter, David Montgomery, Isaiah Pacheco. I would have maybe
considered him actually at my turn, if I didn't have
three running backs already. I think I think Pachecko was
a really good value. Jerry, Judy and Me. Gag Buka,
who another one I would have loved to have come
back to me. Didn't expect it, Jake, were you considering
a buca or because you did a receiver? Were you

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always going to go throw?

Speaker 3 (22:00):
I was gonna go with Rome if he made it
to me. I think he needs to have his name
in the conversation of the Pickens and Jamison Williams and
DeVante Smith's and Jalen Waddles of the world. If we
believe in Caleb Williams, we believe in Bandon Johnson. He's
gonna throw for four thousand plus yards. Hate to tell everybody,
but Dj Moore is not catching three thousand of those yards.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
I'm just saying, how about two thousand?

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Okay, deal.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Bob, Bob and walk us through your picks here at
the turn.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
Yeah. I went with Jacobe Meyers. You know, I just
think he's such a solid floor specifically in PPR. I
do have a little risk with McMillan. And then my
next pick was Caleb Johnson. Not a big pass catcher
in a PPR league, but I do believe he's gonna
have a lot of touchdowns and a lot of carry
Can I ask got a question over three hundred touches?
Gone with not? Okay? Fine?

Speaker 3 (22:48):
How do you like Herjelana? Straight up? So I just
did a little short form with well, you weren't talking
about the Steelers, and I thought Jayleen Warren was a
nice post type sleeper, mostly because this nonsense of using
Kenneth Gamewell. Are you worried at all? I now, to
be clear, Caleb Johnson is going to take the job.
It just might take a few weeks. Are you worried
that it could be a slow start and people get
too quickly disappointed?

Speaker 4 (23:09):
I am yeah, so, I very much am. And because
we did this to Chase Brown last year, right right,
he started a year as the guy he was getting
nothing for the first three weeks he got cut in
a lot of leagues. That could happen to Caleb Johnson
as well. I don't expect it to. I think this
is all kind of veteran positioning, whatever you want to
say to to kind of motivate your players. But I

(23:31):
it could be annoying initially. Kenneth Gainwell is not a zero.
He's definitely not so. Jalen Warren will lead the first
like month or so, but I think once you get
into those grinder months, it's going to be a lot
of Caleb some of the.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Other grinders, hoes and grinders, beans.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
Me, Ball, Sam, Where is this?

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Is this too old for a bus?

Speaker 4 (23:54):
Now?

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Was the only one I did not get their reference?
I'm laughing at Wow, I have no idea. Where're can
you wait?

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Can you just take a guess like that's who it is?
You think that could be.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
What I hardly was even following what you were saying.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
Hogis and grindersavvy.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
It's like a sub shop or something. Is it? Like
you got it? Like a wah wah got it?

Speaker 4 (24:20):
That's it?

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Now talk about a hole in one?

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Does that give you that? Does that give you a
nice hint? It's a Sandler, Adam Sandler, come on, one
of his originals.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Oh gotcha.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
He was Lonely Island before Lonely Island was Lonely Island.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
I was born in the nineties. It wasn't exactly like
I was watching them get off my lawn.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
God, look at this guy age.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Like, do you know what's on the screen of this
Like the reason is the Jurassic Park arcade screen is
because it says it's in the eighties.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Did you ever play like an arcade machine?

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah, I've been to an arcade before.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
That's nostalgic, though not like a real one.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
No.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
No, he means the with the video games, not the arcade,
which is all those fancy stores inside the middle of
the wall with the outside area.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
I played like pinball machines before, and you.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
Know I've just tried. It is overrated, Like touching a
sticky arcade stick because kids have been spilling their dreams
on it all day.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Especially Hey, before we get back to the picks testament,
it's very interesting one an NBA jam two on two
with a good friend, Dane Martinez of ours when my
stick was broken and wouldn't run to the right and
we still won.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Let me catch up on some things please from that nonsense.
In around seven, we had t J. Hockinson, Aaron Jones,
Jalen Warren, Stefon Diggs, Khalil Shakir, Travis Kelcey, Jordan Addison,
Jordan Mason who I was considering, Welsh Juwan Jennings, Matthew Golden.
I took Golden. There another player who I don't have
a lot of. Honestly, That's what I'm doing a lot
of in this mock is taking players that I like
but haven't gotten a lot of. I also took Mark Andrews. Now,

(25:58):
I know I already had Laporta, but I think that Andrews,
just in the eighth round is too good of a value.
There weren't other players that I love and and I
actually have really come around on Andrews. He was catching
a ton of touchdowns once he got healthy, like coming
back from that car accident in the second half of
last season, I say, likely is injured. I think Andrews
is a great pick there.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
Would you have skipped Laporta knowing that Andrews is going
to be available later?

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yes, I didn't think Andrews would get that far back
to me, which is why I took Laporta where I did.
I would have skipped him if I thought he would,
but there wasn't You know that many tight ends taken?
So again, you live and you'll learn doubling up on
tight ends though Evan Ingram goes right after Andrews and
then welse you take somebody who is coming off pup here,
but he's still not going to be available at the

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start of the season.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Did Waite? Did you take two tight ends?

Speaker 1 (26:45):
I just hit that, just hits.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Like I was just trying to look and I was like,
you gotta be kidding me, Like.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
I already grilled him for it. But that was pretty
nice about it.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Listen, listen if I about it. I'm not one of
these people who says, oh, if you like, you can
only take one of these positions. Now, if I had
McBride or Bowers. Yes, I would not have taken a
second tight end. There's some risk with report it. I
think Andrews is a very good value in round eight.
And also I get I didn't love a lot of
the other options. It would just be a lot of
like you know, taking swings on guys. Anyway, So I'm

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happy to get two really good tight ends, both of
them who I think have upside, and I think I'm
doubling my chances of one of them really hitting.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
And had one. Yeah, I hate the pick.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
I hate the pick.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
I understand the reasoning, and I respect not saying trade
peace in the future. That should never be one of
the take a player.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
That's where it was going on my pick. What you're mentioning,
We just did a video. Jake mentioned earlier that we
did a video. You guys can check out that this
guy kind of makes it. But I took Chris Godwin. Yes,
there's some inherent risk, but but but, but I want
to come back to this is about a team construction
thing and something we talked about. I went heavy running
back with a quarterback at the top. I need to

(27:52):
make good on the wide receivers, and he's my fourth
wide receiver while also taking Jordan Mason, who can play flex.
So I'm putting myself a position where Godwin can end
up being a big, massive starter for me over a
couple of weeks, and I don't like need need him
right away, even though he has said at flex. So
this is the ideal situation for a guy like Godwin.
And why the upside makes a ton of sense is

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because I can eat a couple of those weeks.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
What do you want to hide out? I want to
highlight quickly on the double tight end thing. Brandham who
took brock Bauers just took David and joke, that is
not a move I would make again if I had
one of those elite guys, then I'm like much more
staunchly against taking the second one. Some of the other
names going off your Travis Etn Zach Sharbonah, Josh Downs,
Patrick Mahomes, Baker Mayfield, Gavonte Williams, who I do think
is pretty good pick in the eighth and then Jake,

(28:36):
you took Deebo Samuel.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Yeah, I clearly got Boggs, but hey, to be fair,
Bogs got me back at nine on one, So we'll
put it that way. Like Deebo Samuel, like whether or
not mclaurin's there, Like, I just don't think we're giving
him enough respect for the fact that I've bring it
up so many times on these shows. Two hundred targets
went to people not including Terry McLaurin and zach Ertz
last year, and those are only wide receivers, not including
the backfield. Two hundred targets to a bunch of dudes,

(29:01):
and now you have Deebo Samuel come in. No, by
the way, breaking news, not if anybody's watched those games.
He's not fat, and he looks fine. He look good.
So Deebo Samuel at this point is a tremendous value.
But yes, he got me back with his teammate at
nine oh one.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
I almost did Devo instead of Godwin. By the way,
those are the two I was kind of going back
and forth about.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Bog mean, you are the one who pulls the trigger
here on Bill with the nine to ozho one. Obviously
I'm referring to Jukry Krossky. Marrit feels like a value
honestly based on the way the hype has been going.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Give him the dan Quinn news. Yeah, see, because g
Loop that in because I'm curious your thoughts.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, we actually uh before the show started,
we were looking and it sounds like Dan Quinn was
asked about the goal line work and Chris Rodriguez was
mentioned a bunch of times, and Cory Krosskymerit or Bill
Kross Kimert was not mentioned at all. So, but this
is a PPR league and I think he's going to
catch a lot of passes at this point, I think
the value was good, and obviously Jake got me. I

(29:59):
was very upset because I had my sight set on Deebo.
I was worried about Welsh taking him. He took Chris Godwin,
so I was like, maybe he'll fall, but he was
top of the board. Nobody else took him, and then
you took him one pick in front of me, so
that did chat me a little bit. I went with
my boy, Keon Coleman, who I still really like to
catch a lot more balls this year, and he doesn't

(30:20):
need to catch a lot to be very productive. So uh,
Keon Coleman and then Jacry Cross.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
I'm gonna get sniped.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
I can feel it.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
One to pick away.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Michael Pittvan Cooper, Joe Mixon's nice Tyler Warren goes, Brian
Robinson possibly gonna get traded. Welsh gets this guy who
is Tucker Craft here, so another titan of the Ward
Boonix goes. I was definitely Bonis late ninth. Like I'm
I'm waiting on QB.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
I was just gonna say the entire suggested boards quarterbacks
I know, and I'm gonna pass more because again, in
a one QB league, if I'm not getting an elite guy,
I'm happy to take whoever is like the fifteenth off
the board.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
So it's a three receiver league. In PPR, I think
I'm gonna double up on receiver here. I'm gonna take
an upside swing on Cedric Tillman, who I think has
really strong breakout potential here, especially for as long as
Joe Flacco's is quarterbacking the Browns. I want to take
another receiver. I'm looking to double checking out there any
running backs I want maybe.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Actually I took Tucker Kraft, by the way, because I
was very worried that worm was going to do the
uh the very illustrious three tight end staff.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
You didn't have to worry about that.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
I want before my roster.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with Tank Bigsby here, just getting
a guy who could be a starter for what I
think will be an improved offense this year in the
tenth round as my fourth running back. Even though I'm
generally not like over the moon about this backfield, I'm
I'm comfortable taking Tank there. At this point, the graft
Quinchron Judkins goes next, Like I just kind of want

(31:58):
nothing to do with Judkins.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
I don't know what to say.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
I want to let somebody else take that risk. Yeah,
he's not even with the team yet, let alone the
off field stuff, Like I will just not be the
one riding that roller coaster. Well, su are you eyeing here?

Speaker 4 (32:10):
Well?

Speaker 2 (32:10):
I was going going to take another guy, but I think,
like having the running backs that I do, it just
makes so much sense to take Cam Scattaboo as a
fourth running back here if you get that reference worm,
just because second half of the year, he could be
a starter for that team. I know they love Tyrone Tracy.
There was another guy I had my sights on the

(32:31):
entire time, but I kind of pivoted there because, like,
so the projections aren't going to love that I took
Skataboo over the player I would have taken. But that's like,
this is coming back to what you were saying, like,
will the system love versus what's the smart play Skataboo
playing for the second half of the season. I've got
Mason as a third running back. Skataboo's a four who
the second half could be a starter for the Giants'
that's not wasting your bench, Jake Sealey, that is optimizing

(32:54):
your bench.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
I wish that Ericson was on this episode so I
could get more like SpongeBob references that I would be
on board with as opposed to you guys all. I'm
not going to say how old you guys are, but
you know.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
We need to throw out some Lulu Wamba or whatever.
That show is that designed for kids to not look away?
What the heck this is the name of that show.
I don't know, whatever, it still go look at It's
the one where they actually had kids watch two different
TVs and every time they looked away, they cut that
scene from those. Yeah, to make sure kids stay paying attention.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Anybody Coco Melon or something like that. Yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
That one Coco Mountain melt. Is that the orl that's
the closing.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
I have three nephews who definitely watch TV, but I
couldn't tell you what the shows are themselves. Zak Prescott
goes here in the tenth around. I think that's a
great later round pick. Honestly, I probably would have taken
him if he got back to me. I think Dak
is an awesome, awesome later on QB this year, we
get we're into the round where folks are like kind
of into their benches for the most part, you know,
like Braylon Allen has gone, Trey Benson, Jayden Higgins, good

(33:59):
pick here some of the elder guys to Christian Kirk,
Austin Eckler, Jake, you take Demario Douglas here. By the way,
are there any you know players or any teams I
should say that you guys think are doing a particularly
good job, Like, besides your own, are there any rosters
so far that you guys are really impressed with anybody's build?
Whoever you see you can shout it out besides mine?

(34:19):
Is that what he said?

Speaker 4 (34:20):
Besides the guy on the not the guy on the
other end, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
There's some JABBRONI who took two tight ends already.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
I think Bunting has got a pretty good squad he's putting.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah, Bunting, who just took Dak, like I mentioned, I
think he's doing good and pairing Dack with Ceedee Lamb.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Of course, I like whoever started Nico Collins, Brian Thomas, Hampton, Henderson,
Harvey Rice. You can wait on the upside, Jennings, you
can wait. It gets Yeah. Yeah, I get dicey at
wide receiver, but those running backs all catch passes, which
is good.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Honestly, I really like that too, because even if it's
dicey at the depth of receiver, they have an elite too.
And he pairs Evan Ingram with bow Nicks in the
eighth and ninth round, So I'm with you. I think
I think he's having a great draft too. Bogman, you
take Nick Chubb and Wandale Robinson with your two picks here.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
I want to Wandell so bad. I'm so mad at myself.
I want as Subscotaboo for Wandal full.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Sap so you can, so you can get wide receiver
forty on one hundred and fifty targets.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Cool, Yeah, ninety five catches in full PPR I'll take
that as a fifth wide receiver, fifth wide out.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
So yeah, and he in the preseason, it's just been
mentioned that he's been playing a little bit more outside,
so he might be on the field a bit more.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
And if you become one of them, I'll never get open.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Russell Wilson, Yeah, well listen on the field. I'm just
looking for volume. Jake. I know you hate him, but look.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
I'm just gonna say this throwing out the players who
didn't at least play half the season. And you can
tell that I still love to hate on the Giants.
So this is why I know this. Off the top
of my head. He was still in full point PPR.
He was still only wide receiver forty five on one
hundred and forty targets.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Like, how does it get better?

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Is my question?

Speaker 4 (36:01):
Well, I don't know that. It doesn't have to get.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Back and that's fair.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
I'll give you that.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
Then yeah, yeah, if it's say, if it's stays close
to the same, I'm getting a good value here. Do
I expect it to know? But we've seen it happen before,
and this is uh, I believe which wide receiver for
this is me? Is uh? This is my fourth fifth.
That's my fifth wid Okay, totally cool chase with Millan, Jacoby,
Keon Coleman and Wandale. So and I needed a little

(36:28):
more reception upside after taking key On.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Coleman, Okay, I'm up here. I took another receiver in
Marvin MiBBs. So I'm trying to get some of these
high upside like potential breakouts like Tillman and Mims. I
think I will find. I mean, there's so many quarterbacks
still available, Like I don't really want to get my
final pick to take them because I know they're going
to start going here. So I think I'm just gonna
take the guy who's been really my favorite the whole year,
and that's Drake May just like as a pure upside, like,

(36:52):
I think there's a world it's I'm not saying it's likely,
but I think there's a world where he's a Tier
one quarterback this year. That's austrongly. I believe in him
and the rushing ability, the floor and the well that's
why so getting him in the twelfth round, I'm very
very comfortable having waited on quarterback.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
There If he runs seven eight hundred yards, run six
seven eight touchdowns. On top of that, he's going to
be inside the top ten just even throwing twenty eight
hundred dollars and twenty touchdowns. It's not going to take
anything for him to get there. With that kind of
rushing upside.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, he's my single favorite quarterback pick you can make
outside of the elite guys here, Justin Fields goes right after.
Obviously there's the same side rushing with him as well.
You know, similar argument to be me, Well, you do
not go with a young guy. You go with an
elder statesman here.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yep, an elder statesman who knows exactly who Adam Sandler is.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
I was gonna say, he knows all their references you
guys have been throwing.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
He knows he's with it. Yeah, so I took well first,
not him, but I took Rashid Shaheed, and then I
took Keenan Allen double tap on the receivers. Yeah. I mean,
I guess you could argue, like the the one thing
you want to do is you want to play like
massive upside, but also just like again coming back. And
I've been harping on it, like in full PPR, like
guys that are going to just get so volume, Yes,

(38:00):
you may be lacking a little bit in like whether
it's a touchdown or yard department. But if ken Allen
gets five or six catches a game, like, I've got
like a floor of points, So I think he's a floor.
And the other reason behind why I like taking Shaheed
for the big play possibility and Keenan Allen is it's
just a little bit more protection because my upside play
is Chris Godwin. That's mine. Everyone's like, oh, I'm gonna

(38:22):
take the rookie. Mine is is Chris Godwin. And if
I can weather the storm for four weeks, I'm getting
a potential number one wide receiver back who I got
as my wide receiver four. So I'm just figuring out
the players I can kind of weather the storm. I've
got great depth at running backs. I'm pretty happy with it.
There's just, you know, there's a clear delineation between like,
here's the little handful of players with the really big upside,

(38:43):
here's some floor players, and what fits best for your strategy.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Bogman, you finally take a quarterback, you take two of them,
a couple of second year players.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
Yeah, I went and doubled up on Caleb Williams and
J J McCarthy here, and you know, waiting to take
a quarterback can be costly. I have messed this up
in multiple mocks. Welsh has seen me do it, but
I think I did it pretty well here waiting. I
didn't wait till the very very end to take a
quarterback where a lot of people are starting to take
a second just in case stuff like that. I went

(39:13):
ahead and I took double upside with Caleb and JJ McCarthy.
I think they're both very good options. And you know,
now I can kind of flip a uh back and
forth and if one doesn't make it, hopefully the other
one does.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Kyle Pitts Jake, I have no comment. I mean thirteenth
ro out obviously like it's you know, certainly later than
he's gone to receive those.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
Views are listening on the podcast Jake is putting on
Clown Makeup Company.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Yeah, I mean like it's going back to the well.
But at the same time, it's also not because like
the downside is clearly baked in. You're getting him in
the thirteenth round.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Your game in thirteenth round almost free. You're getting somebody that, yeah,
we've made excuses for him now three times in a row,
three seasons in a row since his rookie year. But
even before the Moone situation, he had a chance to
be the number two for Michael PENNOCKX. And if Michael
Penox is going to be like Matthew Stafford and throw
for four thousand yards plus and get all his excitement
about his arm, people are gonna have to benefit. And

(40:07):
now we get reports from Rahee Morris and he's like, yeah,
we hope to have Mooney this year, but what the
hell is this year? Seriously, so how are we not
in on ale? If I miss in the thirteenth round
on Kyle Pitts and then have to go chase Brenton
Strange or Kincaid still out there because he's getting split
all the time. Actually Kink went right after my pick.
But there's other options too, like you could look at

(40:29):
a conco maybe getting in the mix. If that he's
the answers the number two is nobody steps up for
the Titans, even though I don't believe that's gonna happen.
Hunter Henry might be the most productive in a PPR
stance for the entire crew outside of the Patriots of
Demiro Douglas. So there's options if it doesn't work, but
I'm gonna take the chance at this point where somebody
were top five upside, even if he busts yet again.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
I will tell you this, if you had gotten back
to me for the bit, I would have taken Pits
as my third title, just for the.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
Cold things number one. That sounded like the guy that
sends you the trade offer and gives you a whole
paragraph right before he sent it.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
This is why you should I have included four players
for one yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
Yeah, yeah yeah. Also, I just drafted Kyle Pitts in
a real I am kidding, of course, Jane. I think
all of these points that you made her out, but
it is you know, people are mad at Kyle Pitts
is it's not going away a naytime soon unless he
puts together a great year.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Hey, should I start writing the twenty twenty six version
of Why She Can Pits?

Speaker 4 (41:27):
One more.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
One?

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Just just have it in the folder ready to.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
Go, I swear, yeah, yeah, talking about you know, the
running back uncertainty in Miami.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
I'll take Ali Gordon here.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
Get that four six Yeah, that was he was in
my cueue.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
And then because I have Drake May, and there's some
uncertainty I will double up at quarterback. I don't like
Jared Goff this year. I mean, yet there's so many
good this is the last round. Jordan loved, Trevor Lawrence,
c J Straft, Brice Young, I like Michael Pennix. I
like I could take Pennis and pair him up with London,
but I'm gonna. I'm just gonna, man. I really like
Warrens and Love all this late, I think I'll go
ahead and just take Love, who I think is gonna

(42:06):
throw a lot more this year if he's not dealing
with multiple injuries the way he did last year. And
I'm just really a big believer you runs offense in general.
So I'm very happy in the twelfth and fourteenth rounds
said Drake May and Jordan Love, and have those be
my two quarterbacks. I'm very comfortable with that. I wanted
to point out not to throw them under the bus.
But Brandham took Justin Herbert. He has brock Bowers and
Josh Allen. Yet he took a second tight end and

(42:27):
a second quarterback. That's a that's an approach that I
don't love as much because he used to read the
articles that Herbert over Josh Allen was exactly because you
are never under the bus.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
You don't if you draft elites, and this is only
the top four quarterbacks, maybe top five with Burro, actually yeah,
I would include Burrow and then top three tight ends.
Do not draft a second one because you are never
benching that person like you your by okay, cool, go
pick up somebody when the bye rolls around. And for
the people that are like, well, if they get hurt,
you're screwed either way. You drafted the elite for the

(43:00):
if they get hurt, it's not like you're replicating that.
So people act like the one time out of ten,
actually fifty, like Baker Mayfield last year that it happened.
You're not guaranteeing that your backup plan is going to
be Baker Mayfield like that type of production.

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trapping up here, you did double up at quarterback despite
taking an elite guy. Do you feel like you wasted
a bench spot?

Speaker 2 (43:58):
The thing I thought about doing was going like Will
Shipley because the pick before that, I took Ice at Grindo. Like,
how does the McCaffrey owner not take Grindo.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
I'm not really not sure why they did that, so
I jumped on it. I kind of thought about taking
Will Shipley in the same respect of like the Saquon
Barkley thing. I just shut the depth that was there,
And I gotta tell you, I frankly thought that Jared
Goff was just like a such a tier above the
quarterbacks that were left, even though I had Daniels that instead,
had you had taken Golf, I would have just been like, oh,

(44:27):
I'm just gonna you know, I'll play the waiver wire
if I ever need a bye week thing. But I
feel that Goff is just the steps above even I
think you took Love cam Ward Pennix that are out there,
so in that situation, jumped on it, but I'd gotten sniped.
I wanted Kyle Williams around before, so a couple of
the pieces that I really really liked had went. But
Grindo and Goff you had to finish it out before.

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your prize guys, let's check out how we did. One
of the cool things I like about doing mock drafts
with Fantasy pros is you can really get into the
nitty gritty with the analysis. You can see projected standings,
positional ranks, expert opinions, steals and reaches, pick analysis, team strengths,
all that fun stuff. Looking at how we did, Jake

(45:31):
Seely's projected to finish third, Scott Bogman projected to finish seventh,
Welsh projected to finish eleventh. We don't need to say
where I'm projected to finish.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
I think there was somebody that said I would be
the worst. I'm the second worst, the worst.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Poorly, if things go poorly, you would be last place.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
You're the worst.

Speaker 4 (45:51):
See yeah, if things code normal budding.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Coming at first, which we kind of clocked during that
draft that he was having a really excellent draft, So
I'm not surprised to see that actually from here looking
at some expert opinions online, Matt Harmon really likes my draft.
Brandon Funston likes my draft. Your your colleague there, Jake.
So just that those are some of the guys to
stand out here that liked my draft. Looking at the

(46:14):
expert opinions, I got to see minus by the way,
which I think is actually pretty fair great. I gat
you try some stuff on mix. Sometimes it work, sometimes
it doesn't. You know, I don't regret trying something new,
I will say, and I want to ask you guys
all this as far as like the biggest regret for me,
it's not actually the double tight end. It's something that
led to that happening. I do regret taking Gent. I
wish I'd take a Brian Thomas junior because if I

(46:35):
had then at that Sam Laporta spot, I would have
been comfortable taking a third running back. I really liked
Pacheco there. I would have done that instead of Laporta,
and then I would have had just the one tight
end later with Andrews, so kind of a cascading effect there.
You see the domino of like one pick that affects
what you did at this spot and then what you
did at the next one. So I do regret taking Gent.

(46:56):
I'm happy I tried it out, but I wish I
had stuck to my gun worm doubled up on receiver.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Does it show you because one of the things on
the insights that's really cool? Is they say, what if?
Does your what if? Give you that scenario? Is that
what it lays because it'll say, like like on mine,
it says, what if I had drafted DeVante Adams at
four to three and not taken Jane to Daniels, I'd
have scored fifty points higher, which would have put me
around eighth place, but I would have had two wide
receivers on the same team. Is your does your what if?
Happen to highlight the Sam Laporta double tight end thing?

Speaker 1 (47:23):
It does highlight. It says if I had taken DeAndre
Swift instead of Laporta, then I would be about forty
four points higher. Now that doesn't necessarily take any consideration
the fact that that I already had three running backs.
But another one of my you know what if picks
is if I had gotten Brian Thomas Junior instead of
gent and then later on I could have taken you know,

(47:44):
Traves etn. It suggests, the said of Matthew Golden, some
options like that would have also moved me up. Let's
see what have moved me up to at least higher
than well up into what up?

Speaker 4 (47:54):
Until I've never seen that worm? Oh you know.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
I'm sorry. I'm sorry you said the what if. Yes,
the what if is like the under six. If you
go to the pick analysis, though, it gives you a
bunch of different like well, how I'd have affected your score.
I'm glad you called that out. It's good for anybody
who's looking at the analysis for the first time that
what if. It's just one, but if you click over
to the pick analysis tab, it'll give you a bunch
of different ones where you could have squapped two picks
minds drunk and see how you did.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Mine's like you would have got thirty one points higher
if you swap t Higgins and Taja Spears for Jacobs
and Demaro Douglas. But that would throw Tracy into my lineup.
And no, yeah, there's no way on.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
Earth mine says. I would have been forty five points
higher if I had taken Michael Pittman at the nine
to one. The thing that it doesn't consider is that
at the nine to one, I took Bill Crossky Merrit
and I would have gotten to see that look on
the stupid look on Jake's face. Well took and this
this is a really maybe forty five points that would
have pushed me to second, but I wouldn't have gotten that.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Look, it's a really good example, Bogman, of why real
time ADP is a valuable feat you're a fantasy bros.
Because Bill would not have gotten to your next pick,
even if the rankings haven't quite caught up up to
that yet, real time ADP would show that he is
flying up draft boards and that was a necessary pick
for you. So again, just to shout out that as
a tool that I think everybody should go check out.

(49:09):
I know Welsh mentioned it earlier, Yeah, Welsh, any kind
of other thoughts, just like wrapping up your draft and
stuff that maybe you wish you had done differently, or
stuff that you liked about trying out anything new on
this mock. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Like I said, I think I'm getting dinged a little
bit by like some things not being up, Like Ricky
Piersall is a three. Like Listen, here's my starters Jayden
Daniels with Devon ah Chan, Breese Hall. My wide receivers
are Pooka, Jayalen Wattle, Ricky Piersall, Chris Godwin is a
flex or. Jordan Mason tucker Craft is my tight end.
I got a strong bench. I think this is a
strong thing. I like it. I think I'm getting dinged

(49:41):
a little bit. But like I was having some regrets
of like the Breecee Hall thing, maybe I do take
a Kyrine Williams, I have a better touchdown equity' that's
in there. Maybe that also, maybe flipping the first round
where I had taken i'd maybe taken gent and then
come back down and gotten one of those wide receivers
I mentioned before, the gent aj Brown build could have

(50:03):
been interesting and might have altered a little bit what
I've done. But I do feel that, like I like
what I did with wide receiver later on and the
upside of Godwin, But I just think there are some
things that are not being accounted for. And then as
far as my insights, by the way, Stephen Thomason, all
my loves were solid, they were all a's. I did
not get a single F by the way, even though
I was second to last. So all the dislikes were

(50:25):
in the D department, and every single one of them
revolved around Devon a Chan. So those people that did
not like Devon a Chan maybe due to the injury
that put me down, but yeah, it gave me a C.
I think this is like a B minus. So I'm
not trying to be like, oh my god, I love
my team, but it's like I like it better than
I got graded for. I think this is a middle
of the pack team with a little bit of risk.

(50:46):
So yeah, there's a couple of situations I think I
could have I could have altered, but again I'm doing
I've been really at the top half of drafts a lot,
and that's why I want and this. These experiments are
so great because I can really start to play around
with a few of my big drafts coming up. If
I do end up getting like a wheel spot and
what would have been better? And I think I've already
laid out like a scenario or two based off of

(51:08):
what I did that could have altered like the path
of my draft. And just like if I wasn't getting
sniped so much, like good Lord, like no tight end,
you're taking seven of them, You're getting all the quarterbacks
going before me. It was just like sometimes you can't
even prepare. And that's why mocking is so great.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
I did get multiple f's, so we're not going to
give those people at the dignity of me reading their
names yeah, quickly, just my kind of final thought, and
I'll toss to Bogman and Jake for their final thoughts
and I'll get out of here. I really like the
running backs in the three four range. I should have
trusted that in this and I'm glad I tried it out.
I wanted to see it was like getting that running

(51:45):
back early. Like I said, But I think if I'm
picking late in a real draft, I will stick with
with what I wanted to and double up a receiver
because I've mean, look at this group of five running
backs that went at the end of the third early Fourthreesaw,
Mariyan Hampton, Kyrien Williams, James Cook, Traveon Henderson. Sometimes Kenneth's
Balker falls there too, he didn't in this one. I
will be so thrilled to take any of those pair
of players if I'm pairing them up with an elite

(52:07):
couple of receivers as well. So picking late, I think
just stick with the receiver receiver build and I would
be much much happier than the way this one panned out. Bob, mean,
what are your kind of final thoughts any takeaways from
your team before we get out of here.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
Yeah, I really like the way that this team played
out for me here, even drafting next to a shark
like Jake, I feel pretty nice about the build. You know,
My running backs are solid JT Chuba Hubbard, Caleb Johnson,
Bill Krossky merrit Nick Chubb as my fifth who you know,
This Joe Mixon thing looks like it's going to linger
into the season. I got two strong quarterbacks and Caleb

(52:41):
and McCarthy lots of upside there. My wide receivers are
Chase McMillan, Myers, Kean Coleman, Wandale Malik Washington. I mixed
a little floor with a little risk there, and Trey
McBride is the number two tight end in fantasy. I
really like the way this team fell to me, and
this is a similar build to what I will do

(53:01):
going into the regular season.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Jake, any final thoughts.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Yeah, I didn't take a quarterback in round twelve with
Joshua Palmer, just because I wanted to push and make
a point there, just to see how it worked out. Normally,
I would if that was the last three rounds. If
he was fourteen and not sixteen, it'd be a different story.
But this was fourteen, and I probably would have normally
not taken Palmer, and then my last three picks would
have been because I have at tight end yet I

(53:24):
would have double tapped quarterback. I would have went like
what Boggs did, Williams McCarthy, even Stroudo has had bounced back,
Trevor Lawrence if he finally finally breaks out love to
stay healthy and bounce back. I would have double tapped
the upside guys that could get top ten. I'm just
never gonna take like a Justin Herbert and be like cool,
I got quarterback fifteen, yay, Like I don't want quarterback fifteen.
So that's the only thing I would do differently, But

(53:45):
I wanted the point still being I still wait till
the very very very very very end and got CJ. Stroud,
who could bounce back and be inside the top ten.
It would have to all be with his arm. But
the big side about it is that if you look
at it with Bejon Gibbs or Bejeon not Gibbs, Bejon
and J Jacobs, and then he'll metcalf Ridley. My flex
is a Donesay, Tracy deebo jk Domins or Demerio Douglas,

(54:06):
like I'm glorious riches.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Yeah, I just get those final round quarterbacks that went
Jordan Loved, Jerry Goff, Trevor Lord at C J. Strout.
That's pretty remarkable. Now we only do fourteen rounds, but that.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
And that won't be everybody's typical draft, which is why
I bring it up to know who you're drafting against.
I know that quarterbacks are going to continue to fall
in a draft like this.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Yeah all right, well, sh I know you got to
get out of here, so we'll go ahead and wrap
things up here. Thanks everybody for tuning in. Thanks to
our listeners for participating the mock. Shouts to Bunting, who
of course is a regular on Discord, for really dominating
this draft. He did a great job, by the way,
just to read his draft that did so well. Some
of these early picks ceede. Lamb, Jackson Smith and Jig
but Kenneth Walker, Terry McLaurin, James Connor, Jerry Judy. He

(54:45):
took Dak Prescott Lee. He took Davonte Williams, who I
like so really Seattle heavy, really Dallas heavy, and it
panned out well for Bunting. So shouts to shouts to
our guy there at shouts all of you for listening.
For Bogman and Jake and Welsh, I'm Ryan warmly. We'll
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