2025 NFL Draft Grades for Every AFC Team (Ep. 1563)

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
All right, and welcome into the Fantasy Pros NFL Draft Show.
The twenty twenty five NFL Draft has come and gone,
which means time degrade how each NFL franchise did starting
with this episode in the AFC. I'm your host Seth Wilcock,
settling in after a weekend when we had some amazing
content right here on the Fantasy Pros YouTube channel. And

(00:22):
today I'm joined by my partner in crime, my PC,
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How are you We're able touch any grass? Yesterday since
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I know how much work that goes into this, So
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Speaker 1 (01:43):
Seth Man, Well, Derek, I appreciate you too, Man, I
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(02:04):
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you check out Andrew Rickson's article where he did a
draft rate for every single team. Derek, kind of what
we're doing today, but in written form, which is way
harder than talking about it.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Oh dude, absolutely had tip to Erickson. I mean I
tell him all the time, not that he overwrites, but
that man puts in some words, dude, and he yes
did some heavy lifting. So if you appreciate everything we're
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article on the site right now. It is a monster.
It is in depth, but look, you can piecemeal. You

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can go through hop the team, the team, whichever team
is your team, or players you want to hear about,
go do it man. Fantastic article.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
As noted on today's show, we'll be going division by division,
breaking down each AFC team's hall and how we grade them.
And before we jump, if you guys can do us
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the Tennessee Titans starting things off, they had obviously the
first overall pick, and then they kept adding and adding

(03:15):
and adding. What is your grade for the Tennessee Titans
and how they're starting off this rebuild with cam Ward?

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I'm gonna gi him an a minus. And I think
the way that they approached like I could have even
given them an A plus and stuff like that. I
guess my only so from the top, we all knew
cam Ward was gonna be their first selection in the draft,
so no surprises there. I really loved what they did
in the second and the third round, getting Fami ladays
show they don't really have much of a pass rush.

(03:42):
Now they possibly do Fammy with somebody was getting like
late first round possible like mocks and grades. He falls
all the way to pick fifty two, which I think
is a smash. Getting Kevin Winston Junior in the third round,
who was a player that there was a little bit
of talk about maybe he snuck into the second round.
So again, fantastic value. The only thing that the only

(04:03):
thing that keeps me precludes me from giving them an
A plus. And why I'm at an as is I
really believe and that selecting your rookie quarterback the future
of your franchise, I want you to surround him with weapons.
And they got Calvin Ridley. There, I get it, but
that's not enough. They got the running backs, but it's

(04:23):
not enough. Now, I will say to the Titans credit.
They basically were like, okay, we're taking defense because that's
what felt is probably at the top of their board
when they were on the clock, and I understand that
they really tried Seth to go and backfill as many
weapons as they could on the back end with Dot
they got Dyke out of Florida, they got gunner Helm

(04:44):
tight end and a fourth round and you know, testing
or not precluding, like what we think about him. I
think there's a possibility like he can turn into a
solid starting NFL tight end. Then they get like aomn
or and then rounding out the roster getting Clil Mummings
at the very end of it is kind of whatever.
But like I think the shots that they took on
in the fourth round with all three of their fourth

(05:06):
round picks, trying to give cam Ward weapons and saying, look,
we've got the Van Jeffersons of the world. Yeah, Tyler
Lockett's gonna be a steady veteran and stuff like that.
He's only there for one year. We also have some
leeway of like if one of these guys is good enough,
like if Dyke or if a man or are good enough.
It's not to say there's not a path of either
one of them hopping Van Jefferson, whether it's Week one

(05:29):
or some point in the season and being a starter
and maybe proving themselves. But I wish that they would
have like spent maybe one of these top three round
picks on a pass catch up a cam Ward. But
I understand and I kind of feel like they knew
they need to add weapons, So like with the concentrated
attack on weapons in the fourth round, I give him

(05:51):
an a minus, and I think it was a great
draft for this franchise. But I can't give him an
a plus. Okay, where did you fall?

Speaker 1 (05:57):
That's completely understandable. I gave them just a solid A
because I really do like, of course a Penn State fans,
I'm a little bit byast oh L Winston or Yeah,
and like the thing about Kevin Winston junior is he
didn't play barely at all this year. He had three
games and he got injured. He sat out the rest
of the year. So I think there's definitely a potential
that he was a Round two pick, maybe potentially even

(06:18):
sneaking into Day one if he was fully healthy this season.
And like, you know me, dude, Like I'm with Brett
Whitefield on the love for LK a O man or
this is one of my favorite prospects in the draft.
And then they got Khalil Mullins in the seventh round
as well, running back kind of out of Michigan, And like,
not only do I like these players from a production standpoint,
but their culture fits right, Like these are tough, hard

(06:39):
nos team players that I think will fit perfectly in
this system. And you mentioned that I don't love like
like the Helm pick, I think I was a little early.
I don't love the DK pick either. I think that
might have been a little early for him. But at
the same time, they grabbed Xavier Estreppo, who is cam
Ward's favorite guy off the undrafted free agent lists, So overall, like,
I do like it. I understand I probably would have

(07:01):
liked to see them take a Day two shot on
a better pass catcher, but I thought Elk was a
Day two guy, so to get him in day three,
I'm very happy with it.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, and I still like this is maybe still an
outside chance, like maybe they signed something because look, Keenan
Allen and Amari Cooper are still out there true, so
like maybe this is also something where they're like they
go with like full veterans starting three wide receivers. I
kind of hope they don't because to me, like, if
you drafted all these talented, skilled players in the fourth round,

(07:30):
you kind of hope that one of these guys steps
up and maybe proves that maybe they're part of your future.
So give them an avenue to do so. So personally,
I hope they don't add another veteran if they feel
like they get in camp and stuff like that, and
Cooper or Allen are still kind of hanging around waiting
for an injury to happen to sign in camp and
I can understand it, but to me, I'm like, get

(07:51):
the young guys also an avenue to prove themselves and
maybe like say, hey, I know I fell to the
fourth round, but I'm worth way more than that and
I can be a huge part of this team future.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah, I'm all in on Tennessee man I got cam
Ward yesterday in a Dynasty super Flex draft at the
one oh five, Derek. I was thrilled. Yeah, so wheels
up for us on both Tennessee. Let's move to Jacksonville,
where they made maybe the biggest move of the entire
NFL draft, trading up in the first round to go
and get their man, Travis Hunter. What'd you like about

(08:21):
Leam Cohen and company and what they did down in Duval.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
I liked it. I didn't love it like Ericson in
his article gave them an A I can't give them
an A like. Look. I understand the aggressive move up
for Travis Hunter. They also spent a lot of capital
to do so I understand the home run swing. And
if Travis Hunter ends up being him, he's elite. He's
the guy that everybody hopes that he can be and
I hope that he can be too. He is gonna

(08:49):
be the guy that defines this class for them, and
if he could be an all pro and other world talent,
then he is gonna We'll look back on this and
maybe this is a true A class. I can't give
them anything higher than a bee only because you look
at what they did with the rest of their class,
like Caleb Bransaw okay, solid third round pick, Walter Mileam Okay,

(09:09):
we added to the offensive line, but is that going
to really push the needle? Like getting a third round
guard Baseiel Tooton fourth round, Like I love Bachil Tuton,
but like you also still already had Travis Etn you
still already had tank bigsby. Now. We could debate for
days on what they can or cannot give you and
what points they are in their career, and how high

(09:29):
or not high we are on their prospects. But like,
was running back something you really needed to address when
maybe you could have also like gone the pass catcher
route and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Address it twice too. They got LeQuinn allenis Syracuse in
the seventh.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
That's true, man, It's kind of like I would have
rather they taken another shot on a wide receiver or
you're looking at they had two six two seventh round picks. Now,
we don't know if they did go the trademarket and
kind of kick some knock on some doors and stuff
and try to trade up, and that just didn't come
to fruition. I just didn't feel like the rest of
their draft like, look, Travis Hunter is awesome. I'm not

(10:04):
saying that he's not, but I felt like, looking at
the rest of their draft as a whole, there's not
like a ton of standout picks or guys that like
where I'm like, Okay, maybe Tooton is a needle mover.
But if he's not, if he just kind of falls
into the scrum, and this is like a three way
committee or ETNA keeps the job, Tank Bigsby keeps the job,
then it's an okay class. It's a good class, but

(10:27):
it's not like it's not one that I'm walking away
saying they deserve an A grade for me.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
I can totally understand that I went with a B
plus because I do like the move for Travis Hunter,
but like you said, they did give a ransom for it,
And like trading your first round pick, when you're a
Jacksonville Jaguars organization that's traditionally drafted inside the top five
the top ten, it's really hard to kind of sacrifice that.
I love the pick for White Milium in the third, Like,

(10:54):
this was a guy who was once projected to be
a late first early second rounder, I mean West Virginia,
and they didn't have the best twenty twenty four season,
but in twenty twenty three, dude, they could move piles.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Man.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
They were one of the best rushing teams all around,
with Donaldson in the backfield Garrett Green running wild as well,
So I think he can bring some of that explosiveness
to this run game blocking up front there. And like
I do agree, Like it felt weird that they I
don't mind them drafting two and Lequin Allen, both players
that I really liked in this class, but like, why
don't you move etn Then if you can, why don't

(11:27):
you move Tank Bigsby? Is there no market for those guys?
Maybe maybe that's it. And I did like the Day
three linebacker values as well, Notre Dames, Jack Kaiser, a
guy who's played in some big time games down the
stretch in the college football playoffs, Jalen mcoud out of
Auburn as well. I think at least one of those
guys hits. So you know, Day three linebackers, you don't
have the best success hit rate there, but I think

(11:47):
maybe one of those guys could hit, so overall to
B plus for me, But I totally understand the concern,
and you just got to hope like that what theyre
at least a five hundred team to make this trade
with Cleveland payoff here.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, I mean that's really kind of what you're hoping
for it. Maybe I should again in the night Kaiser
with his swag and the gold cleats Man. Maybe I
didn't give it enough love. So there's that.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Also, James Gladstone, dude looks like he's my age, so
it looks like he's twenty five. I was thinking it, dude.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
I wasn't gonna say it, but I was thinking the
same thing the whole time.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
He's got the hoodie under the blazer, He's got that
new skull look. So at least James Gladstone had the
Stones to trade up make a big move on Day one.
Let's move to the Indianapolis Colts, where I think a
lot of mixed reviews in this draft. Obviously they go
Tyler Warren early JTT in round two, but what did
you think of their overall class adding depth to this
Colt team that's I mean, been pretty mediocre for the

(12:38):
last decade or so.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah, dude, I mean, look, I think they they got
to see from me. I like their first two picks
I like Tyler Warren al for JTT, and then I
felt like it kind of goes off the damn rails, agreed,
Justin Wiley, Like, Bro, you took him at eighty The
highest edp that he had during the entire process was
in the hundreds, the one forties, and you took him. Also,

(13:01):
it just felt like such a reach, dude, Like Noel
Williams was still on the board, Jacob Parrish was still
on the board. Either one of those cornerbacks, fine, go
get one of them, don't reach an extra round plus
for another corner and you we talked about corner being
in need for this team. I thought they were gonna
possibly address corner early. So okay, fine, I think there's

(13:23):
something to be said for going to get your guy,
But that much of a pick, why don't you just
trade down or take him in the freaking fourth round, dude? Right,
Like that's where of Like then you look at the
other picks after this, Like, I love DJ Giddens and
the fact that they got him in round five I
thought was a steal.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Agree, But again, you.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Got j T under contract, Like why you're still paying
Jonathan Taylor? Yeah, okay, fine, you want to fortify the room.
Maybe Jonathan Taylor is not there next year, but it's
a fifth round running back really gonna move the needle
for you in that or if he doesn't get on
the field, are you telling me that maybe you're not
going back if you do even get rid of Jonathan
Taylor this season? Are you not going right back to
the running back? Well? Are you gonna play Dj Giddings

(14:04):
enough and you only invested fifth round capitol in him
to where he definitively has a role next year? And
then Ryley Leonard round six? Do we not have enough mobile,
inaccurate quarterbacks? Almost damn roster already? We felt like we
needed to go get another one. Like Shane, I get it.
We all got archetypes, we all got things we love

(14:26):
about certain players. You like quarterbacks that can run and
can't freaking throw the ball? Apparently, Oh keep fine, But
why the hell are you drafted another one? Don't? I
don't get it, dude. So like for me, I like
their first two picks. I agree with their first two picks,
but after that, I'm just kind of like the rest
of this draft class just feels like a wet fart.

(14:46):
But am I wrong? Seth.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
No, No, you're right. I gave him a B minus.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
And mate, oh, you're being nice, dude, you are being nice.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
I think it's because the value at Warren at fourteenth
overall feels huge. I think that is a slam dunk
pick at four I love JB. T in the second,
but I agree with you completely. After that, it got
really weird. They do have an out in Jonathan Taylor's
contract after this season, so maybe they get rid of him.
But Jonathan Taylor feels like such a good running back
that you can't get rid of him for nothing unless

(15:14):
you're trading him or something. So and then I agree
with you on Riley Leonard, like unless you're gonna use
him in like the Taysom Hill Swiss Army knife roll.
What are we doing there?

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Man? Like you, dude, I feel the same way. And
here's my biggest thing. If you look at their class
top down, I mean really, like, are we gonna be
surprised if they'd come out of like, okay, they had
what the eight picks? Are we gonna be that surprised set? Like,
if you're just kind of forecasting this, projecting this class

(15:44):
forward two three years, are you gonna be that damn
surprised if they only come away with these eight picks
and they only get two starters out of it, And
for me, that's a bad class, Like you took eight
the eight bites of the Apple when you only came
away with two.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
And in a year where chrisp and the head coach
are going, you know, like, this is it for Shane Stichen,
this is it for Chris Ballard man. Like it felt
like those first two picks like the Colts are going
for it, they know they have to win now. And
then after that it was like I don't I don't
know if.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
A day drinking and they're just like, all, we're good, baby.
They got the two first.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
One right, yeah exactly, just the rest of it, they
just ran off a vibe seth. Yeah, so you have
a C for the Colts, I've a B minus. I'm
gonna give them a C plus. I think I'm a
little high on the B minus. So come on, yeah, yes, absolutely,
let's go to the Houston Texans round out this AFC South,
which I mean, I think everyone really from a fantasy

(16:39):
perspective loves the Texans, But from a team build perspective,
do you like what they did here Nick Cassario and
company on Friday, Saturday, and Thursday.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
I love this class. I love this draft. I'm giving
them an A plus and an fat A plus. Dude.
They traded down from the first round they get, they get,
so they slid back from a from the first round
to thirty fourth and then they get picked up a
ninety ninth overall pick and they picked up a third
for next year. They're gonna walk into next year's draft

(17:09):
with ten picks set five picks inside of the top
one hundred. So that type of trade down is huge
for not only having the cupboard, like getting to the
point where you can still get the guys you want,
but then you're restocking all the AMMO for next year too.
So like that type of feasibility and just being able

(17:30):
to move around the board and stuff like that and
do what they want to next year, I think is huge.
And then you just go you dive into this class.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Like, I'm gonna come out here and say it right now, CJ. Stroud,
bounce back season incoming, baby, I'm like, we need to
bet and I'm not gonna be I like, we need
to take all those good vibes that we had about
CJ Strout entering last year if he can recapture this,
and Houston is saying, bro, We're gonna give you every
kind of chance that we can for you to recapture

(17:59):
your rookie year, like we need to be betting his
MVP futures, Seth, And I don't think that that's crazy.
This defense is freaking stocked. This this division is ripe
to the taking. And if you look at what they
did in the freaking draft, dude, Jade Higgins, you know
my man crush on him, getting him at the top
of the second round, Ayanta Ersrie falling into the second round, which, okay,

(18:23):
he was still going to be a second round pick,
that's where everybody kind of projected him. But adding doing
what we hope they would do, Seth and adding to
this offensive line with the moves they've already made, and
I know they feel comfortable about it. Now we can
all like we can all go back and forth about
how the players that they have in that room, but
also those same players that are in that room right now,

(18:43):
a lot of those same players are still part of
the players that like last year, before everything fell apart,
we walked into last year before everything fell apart, Seth
feeling like that was going to be a good offensive line.
Now just because it didn't come to fruition, we can't remember,
we can't forget what they did in the previous season
and the possibility that they can get back to that.

(19:04):
Plus they added Arsree, Plus they added my dude, Jalen Koll,
who I don't the NFL messed the hell up dude.
The fact that he fell all the way to the
third round. That dude is gonna have an Amanas Sam
Brown type of outcome where he is writing down all
of the freaking names of the teams and the players
drafted in front of him. He is going to come
in pissed off, with a chip on his shoulder and

(19:27):
show people who he is. But projecting a starting three
wide receiver set Seth of Nico Collins, Jayden Higgins and
Jalen Knowle, Holy crap. And if this offensive line gets better,
and they added cornerback dep and they added a passing
down back in Woody Marx. Now I'm not you know,
I'm not a big Woody Marx fan, but what he

(19:48):
can just bring from a death perspective, I'm totally fine.
With in the fourth round, like I would have gone
other ways, like when you're looking at Jarquest, Hunter Giddons,
Neil TODJ Brooks, all those guys were still on the board.
I think we can at Hairs. I'm not a Woody
Marks fan. Maybe I'm wrong there, and that's fine. But
all of the other picks outside of drafting Graham Mertz,

(20:08):
which whatever I could say, that was like, okay, well
just give give the guy that a boy, But outside
of that, dude, this is an A plus class And
I'm telling you right now, I'm gonna bet CJ. Stroud
MVP futures. I'm betting them to win the division. I
will take some Super Bowl odds bets on Houston right now.
I think that they are gonna freaking crush this year.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Twenty five to one on CJ. Stroud right now.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Friends, Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, not sure what that was before. If that's moved
at all, maybe it hasn't, but but still I.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Really like that I'm gonna catch up. I doubt it,
and like.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
I agree with you, Derek, I didn't give them an
A plus because the Graham Mertz pick, like I was
just like, I'm gonna be like, what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Come on, rounder, that's got it for you.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
We've all watched this guy Wisconsin at Florida brother, like
he's just eat, ain't in it. But like I love
what they did. Not only do you add two dynamic
weapons in Higgins and Nol, but their teammates, they have
chemistry together, they know how to play and you know,
by all means you talk to them in person, they
seem very coachable, very likable. Locker room fits, that's the
other thing.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
It's like, you know, you're getting locker room fits. And
that's one of the things that I love, Like, okay,
straight up, the fact that both of the Iowa State
guys that we love go to the same freaking team
and now they have to compete with each other again,
and now they're competing with in Digo Collins. Yeah, does
that suck, Yes, it emphatically sucks for us in fantasy football,
But is it really damn good for the NFL? Is

(21:33):
it really damn good for the Houston Texans and their
roster and this offense? Oh dude, for days for days?
And then also like if you just match up like
people talk about it, and I think it's the right
way to approach it. When you're building out a wide
receiver room, you want to get a basketball lineup. You
want to get a little bit of different flavors, guys

(21:53):
that can do a lot of different things. You're talking
about the mishmash of skill sets with Nico Collins, Jaye
Higgins who could play big slot and move inside outside,
and the same thing with Jalen Knowl and his verticality
from the slot and the ability, like we've talked about
in spades to also play outside. This passing offense is
gonna be freaking dangerous, dude, dangerous.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
And you mentioned Woody Marx, Like, I'm not a big
Marx guy either, but I think he's a great change
of pace option compared to what Joe Mixon uh brings.
And also like I've never been a big Damian Pierce guy.
I know he had the great, you know, one thousand
yard rookie season, but I think he brings a different element.
There also another Penn State guy they grabbed in the six,
safety Jalen reed Reid had a really nice senior season

(22:37):
and also Iowa tight end Luke Latchie a good fine
in the seventh. Like, if you're gonna take a dart
throw on a tight end? Why not do it from
tight end? You baby, Iowa?

Speaker 2 (22:46):
So Yep, it's a good depth, good depth signing man.
And so yeah, I just I really appreciate everything they
did in their draft.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
I think they could have maybe added a bit more
help up front. But you know, we kind of talked
about this in the pre draft process a little bit,
like they're trusting their guys. They have a couple guys
Day two guys they added over the years that they
can slot in there and and and grabbing a guy
like like I say, there a Minnesota I think will
help kind of solidify that offensive line.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
So like, if I want to split hairs, do I
wish they would have added a d tackle before waiting
all the way until the seventh round. Sure, Like you know,
like we talked about it beforehand, like who they have
at tackle. It's it's solid, but it's not amazing. So
like I thought that that was quietly like a big
need and I thought Dimigo could have spent one of
their early picks on it. But I think the big

(23:35):
onus walking away from this is that Houston made a
concentrated effort and correct me if I'm wrong with this
seth I think Houston made a concentrated effort of saying, no,
you know what, we will go as far as c J.
Stroud will take us, and we have to get him
back right, and we have to get him back to
looking like rookie season CJ. Stroud. And I think that's

(23:57):
the right approach, dude, because it's right. You're only going
to go as far as your freaking quarterback can take you,
because your defense can be as good as it wants
to be unless it's like otherworldly elite in the Baltimore
Ravens of yesteryear. You're not winning if you can't freaking
put up twenty twenty five points in the damn playoffs
when you're gonna, you know, you're going through the gauntlet

(24:17):
of the AFC. If you can't score points, you are
not beating the Ravens. You are not possibly beating the Chiefs.
You are not beating the Buffalo freaking Bills if you
cannot score points.

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the AFC North, starting at the top of the board
with the Cleveland Browns, who made the surprise pick to
trade out of two back to five grab Mason Graham.
How did you like what they approached and ended up
with after all it was all said and done, especially

(25:14):
making a very noteworthy fifth round pick.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
All right, so one, I'm gonna be very honest about this.
I was very hard on them. If you go back
and anybody watches the stream about taking Mason Graham where
they got him? Is he a blue chip prospect? Yes?
I didn't feel like considering looking at this team and
their needs at quarterback, should they have gone that direction
inside the top ten. Now we all saw how the

(25:38):
quarterback board played out. We could all talk about that
four days, but looking at their draft class as a whole, yeah, dude,
I gotta give him an a minus. I was hard
on them on stream, going back, diving through this further
and understanding some of their needs that maybe, like I
didn't get enough time to like kind of dive through
everything that they needed, the complexion of their before the draft,

(26:01):
and now looking back at it with you know, twenty
twenty hindsights always twenty twenty, so and looking at their roster,
taking Mason Graham, taking Schwessinger at with their first two picks,
I was like, are these really the big needs? But
if you look at injuries to Michael Hall, injury to
j Okay, yeah, they were needs and they filled both
of them emphatically. And I think we could also craft

(26:22):
a really good narrative steth And And it's the truth though, too,
that if Schwessinger just didn't have one year of production,
if it was two years, maybe he's a first round
pick instead of being a second round pick. So I
think there is some baked in value. But then also
again addressing needs and getting ahead of needs, I think
quietly this was a fantastic class and I really I
probably crapped on it way too much on the stream

(26:44):
and stuff like that. So I'm owning that right now.
So Browns fans, I'm sorry. If you watch back that
watch that back on the Fantasy Pros YouTube channel, I'm sorry.
But looking at this more with twenty twenty vision and
having more time to kind of process it, they needed
to remake their backfield. They knew what they'd had and
didn't have in Jerome Ford, so drafting not only quin
Shawn Judkins, but Dylan Samson. I'm not high on Samson,

(27:06):
We've all talked about that, but other people in the
process have been high on him, so if I'm wrong.
And the other part about it is like, you know,
you need a compliment, probably to quin Shawn Judkins, and
I think they got that now. We could also like
I could barst through for days like maybe some other
guys that probably would have fit better as a compliment,
but taking quin Sewan to lead and be your early

(27:27):
down guy to soak up volume, getting Dylan Samson and
seeing can he be that lightning component opposite quin Shawn Judkins,
kind of like Trevon Henderson light Light Light Light version
as well as dude Harold Fannon taking him in the
third round. I think that like we were kind of like, okay,
how is the NFL going to view this guy? And
third round capital I think was very telling. I was

(27:51):
worried he was gonna slip to the fourth, maybe the
fifth round if the NFL says, look like we are
out and the Browns said, no, we are not out.
We are really in round Capitol, Like, it doesn't have
to be a first and second round pick if you
go through the laundry list of like crazy productive tight ends,
Travis Kelce, George Kittle, all these other different guys. We're
third or fourth round picks in the NFL draft. So

(28:11):
don't shade that. And the other thing that I think
people are gonna miss with that pick, particularly David and
Joku is a free agent after this year. They had
to get a tight end to be the heir apparent.
So in other mock drafts, like I kind of went
the Terrence Ferguson range, he wasn't on the board. He
went he will get to him later and another but dude,
he went higher than we thought. So getting Fanning in

(28:33):
the third round, and then I think what makes this
and could blow this entire draft class out the damn
water and they walk away with one of the best
draft classes period, bar none. If they get Shadur Sanders
to come in, and I think he's gonna come in
with a chip on his shoulder. I think he's gonna
come in ticked off. If this truly is we walk

(28:55):
like all these different guys, Joe Flacco, Dylan Gabriel, Kenny Pickett,
all these guys walk into camp and this is a
true competition. Everybody is on equal ground. Okay, Joe, you're
the veteran. You are definitely going to be starting in
Week one. Okay, fine, But if this is a true
competition in camp, the most talented quarterback on that damn

(29:18):
roster is easily Chadur Sanders. Now I'm not going to
touch and I'm not going to talk about him falling
to the fifth round and what or why or any
of the reasons because of that, because we could be
here for another freaking hour and a half talking about that,
and I'm just not touching that. But I will say,
anybody that tells you that Shadura Sanders is not one
hundred percent the most talented quarterback on this roster right now,

(29:42):
is lying to you. And if he is a fifth
round pick and he walks away and he is their starter,
their long term future at quarterback, and he bucks all
of that crap. This class was a damn home run
seth home run.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, I totally get the aus. I gave it a
B plus because, like, there's a couple of things. One,
if you're gonna take Shador in the fifth, I love
the value there. You and I both had Shador as
a first round pick. I mean I bet on him
to go in the top ten. I liked him a
lot as a prospect, But why the heck are you
taking Dylan Gabriel in the third? Then that pick, Yeah,
that pick makes no sense for me, said that dingdom

(30:19):
for me. And also like I was not as high
on Quinn Shawn Jenkins as consensus obviously, so like so
that pick when Henderson was still on the board, we
had some other running backs on the board, that was
a little bit spotty. And then if you're just gonna
draft Dylan Samson in the fourth too, doesn't make a
ton of sense for me. I will say, though, Like
we're gonna enter this twenty twenty six NFL draft cycle,

(30:41):
and regardless of if Shador Sanders works out or not
for that fifth round pick. The Browns are starting off
on second base like they're leading off here man because
this is a loaded quarterback class coming even if arch
Manning does not come out. We have Drew Aller coming
out of Penn State, Lenora Sellers coming out of South Carolina,
Kid Klubnick coming out of Clemson, Garrett Nus for all
the highs and lows he's had in his career coming

(31:02):
out of LSU. Like they are starting on second base
and they had the capital to get any of those
guys they want. The only question is is that plus
Mason Graham Worth missing out on Travis Hunter and Abdol Carter.
Only time will tell.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, that's fair. I agree with you. We talked about
Quinn Shawn. People go back and watch the running back episode.
Neither one of us are in on Quinn Shawn anywhere
near consensus. I think his ability to soak up volume
is really kind of where they went and why they
went there, and I get that. So maybe I'm wrong,
and Quin Shawn can be a better running back in
the NFL than he showed in college. But a lot

(31:36):
of times if you can't break tackles really well in college,
can't break tackles really well in the NFL. So I
don't disagree.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Soeth, let's go ahead and move to the Cincinnati Bengals. Here,
debro and this was a team we knew heading into
this process. They need to draft defense. They need to
rebuild this defensive side of the ball after not addressing
it for years and years. They go out, they signed
T Higgins, Jamar Chase Rie Ink to a new contract
as well. Did they do enough Bengals to you to
be contenders in this loaded AFC North and AFC in general?

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Hell no, I Oh, Zach Taylor. Oh they're GM man.
Y'all got some explaining to do. I'm giving them a
C minus. Dude, just this class. When you look at
you go out and you pay T Higgins, you pay
Jamar Chase, and you're saying, I know the defense has
had issues. I get it. I'm going to go back

(32:27):
to something I kind of said earlier. This team will
only go as far as Joe Burrow will take them.
And if you cannot protect Joe Burrow with this dog
water excuse of an offensive line that you didn't even
freaking add until you took a guard at pick eighty one.
How in the hell are you going to compete not

(32:50):
only in the AFC North, but the rest of the AFC. Now, sure,
we can all talk about it, okay, Joe, but Joe
Burrow did it last year who played behind a really
similarly terrible offensive line. Or you can roll that back, dude,
You're just you're asking him to be Superman every single snap.
And what are you doing from a perspective of yeah, okay, fine,
he's he's able to cape up. I get that. What

(33:13):
could Joe Burrow do for you if you give him
clean pockets and so knowing the status of this freaking
offensive line, knowing that, okay, Shamar Stewart is we could
talk about the testing, we could talk about his upside
for days. You're betting on trades like that's not the
kind of pick, like if you already have And here's

(33:33):
the thing, we haven't got any resolution to Trey Hendrickson.
We still don't know if he's going to be a
Cincinnati Bengal in the year twenty twenty five, if he
moves on, if that situation just sours. You took a
high variance upside swing on a pass rusher that if
he flops, this class is toast. I just don't understand

(33:54):
going that direction in the first round, and I it
just it's too cute for me, man. And then you
don't address the offensive line, which is the most glaring
need that you have on this freaking team. It is
outside of pass rush. So you took a wide variance
pass rusher in round one, you took a freaking linebacker

(34:16):
in round two.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
On the fall linebacker.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
I'm not shading Demetrius Sneight. I think he's a good player,
but at that point of the draft, why didn't you
invest in the damn offensive line? Dude? Why do you
not understand what stirs the drink in Cincinnati Zach Taylor
and the GM. Do you not? Because you act like
you've just lost the entire onus of what actually makes

(34:39):
your team go, and that's keeping Joe Burrow up upright,
keeping him healthy. You were in the Super Bowl a
few years ago when you did that, So what the
hell are you doing? And then the rest of their draft,
they take another freaking linebacker, they take another guard in
round five. Sorry you missed the boat. You should have
done that earlier. You think the round five guard is
even gonna sniff the starting lineup? Maybe, oh maybe, only

(35:02):
because their other two guards on that roster are not
freaking good. That doesn't make it a win, Zach Taylor.
And then you take Tag Brooks, which I love Taj.
Let's not get it twisted. I love Taj Brooks and
I love that pick in the sixth round. But again,
they craped the bed in rounds one through five before

(35:25):
they got to Taj Brooks and decided to lay in it.
So no, hell no, this class sucks. I'm sorry, Joe Burrow,
but you gotta go be Superman again, and you got
no other help. It's had your two star receivers and
Chase Brown to freaking do it.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yeah, you're giving them a C minus. I'm out of sea,
And you know, maybe I could even be a little
more tougher because, like, like you said, they're betting on
the trades of Stewart in that first round. I don't
know if I love that. And at the same time, like,
how can you take an off ball linebacker when there
were not only serviceable offensive linemen but good cornerbacks on
the board as well, Like this secondary is really bad

(35:59):
for the bank. Mike Hilton's still not signed. And this
was a draft full plug and play safeties and cornerbacks.
In my opinion, we've talked about two safeties from Penn
State already that went off the board in Day three,
Day two, and you know there were all these guys
Ben Morris and Revel who were injured and could be
a starting cornerback in the league. So I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
I think I'm downgrade my grade. I'm so freaking mad
about this. I'm getting them a D.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Okay, I'm over it. You gave him a D, I'll
give him a C. It'll average out. There's still not
very well. Let's move to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Did Omar
Kahn the con artist once again get it done here?
They don't address quarterback till late in the draft. I
was a little bummed out they didn't take Shador when
he was falling. I thought my Tom could be the
perfect guy to help coach him up after just a
terrible weekend for the kid. What are your overall impressions

(36:44):
of the steel City right now?

Speaker 2 (36:46):
I'm gonna grave them on a curve, and I'm grading
them on a curve. Seth, I'm not pandering to the
crap right here.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
This ain't a college class.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
You can't, well, I am, we're the teachers here, seth.
We make week your own rules. Dude, Come on, we're
setting the curriculum. Okay. I'm grading them on a curve
because I don't know why you make these moves and
Aaron Rodgers is and you're starting week one quarterback. So
my takeaway is that Aaron Rodgers will be maybe by
the time that you're all watching this, then maybe Aaron

(37:15):
Rodgers has already signed his contract and he's a Steeler.
But the way that I'm looking at this class is
this screams to me that Aaron Rodgers will be the
starting quarterback in twenty twenty five for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
So I'm grading this class like we already have quarterback addressed. Okay,
so just have to put that out there. I'm giving
them an A because I felt like their top three

(37:36):
picks were just fantastic. Derek Harmon fits a huge need
love that pick. You know, we could we could talk
about it for days. I think the fact that Kenneth
Grant Walter Nolan went off the board in the first
round because they're I didn't mock them in the first round,
not because I didn't think they were first round talents.
Their draft spots were all over the all over the map, dude,

(37:57):
I could see I could see as many three or
four defensivettack was going in the first round. I could
see none or one going in the first round. So
getting Dereck Harmon at pick twenty one, I thought was fantastic.
I mean, dude, you know my love for Caleb Johnson
and his his fit in this outside zone running scheme
was absolutely freaking fantastic. I mean, we've seen and you

(38:19):
could just point out to the film how good he
is in outside zone runs. Pittsburgh last year again talking
about the handed gluff fit. Pittsburgh last year was eighth
in outside zone rushing attempts eight, highest in the NFL.
So a perfect fit. Now, while I hate that for
Jalen Warren, I think Caleb Johnson was a smash pick.
I think he's gonna take over this freaking backfield, be

(38:40):
their early down horse. And then you get Jack Sawyer. Again,
this defense is not young, bro, It's not so getting
Jack Sawyer, who dude, there was second round talk on him,
third round talk. Oh he falls all the way to
the fourth round and they snatch him up. I mean
it was it was cool. It was just it was
good picks for days. Due then going back to the

(39:00):
tackle in round five, they give themselves an out with
Will Howard getting around six, which Will Howard was getting
some possible like round three, round four was and that's
kind of how I had him grated as like around
like a late day too early day three picks of
the fact that he falls to round six and people

(39:21):
with whatever you think about Will Howard, I'm not saying
that like he's amazing, but I think he can be
a serviceable backup or be a starter, a low end
starter and a pinch if everything were to hit for him. So, dude,
I love this class by the Steelers. What are your thoughts, man.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
I'm pretty happy with it. Like I was very very
big on Kenneth Grant, so if we could have somehow
got him at defensive tackle like that would have filled
a big hole. Derek Carmon though, still seems like a
very quality player. And like, I appreciate this young man's
story and like Te's and P's out to him and
his family. He lost his mother on Thursday night, dude,
so yeading that.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Just like it me straight in the fields. Man, I
was like, oh my god, but you you love that
for everybody that doesn't know, I mean, you want to
flush that story out like kind of like what happened.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah, So I believe his mother was on life support.
I'm not sure how she got on life support, but
she's been on life support for some time and then
ended up having to pull the plug there on Thursday night.
And she did see him get drafted and and so
that was great to see. But yeah, so so Derek
Harmon a very motivated guy coming to Pittsburgh. I love
to see that. And like Captain Jackman in the fourth round,

(40:24):
are you kidding me? This was the guy that I
really did think was gonna go Like I thought he
had Cincinnati Bengals second round, Like that was my pick
because I thought he.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Was too man like this didn't this feel like he
was gonna be the Sam Hubbard replacement, like y fox
Step like your lunch Pale d n that just he's
good versus the run, Gonna give you like a sturdy
like six to seven sacks every year, get the star recruit, yeah, man,
Like so like for the Steelers to get him.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
I was like, Oh, he's a Steeler brother looking baby,
we got some grit. Yeah. Despite being from the state
of Ohio playing for Penn State's arch rival in Ohio State,
this guy was meant to be a Steeler, So I'm
all in on that. And then like Will Howard to
bring him, bring his you know, his college teammate with him,
Captain Jack. I'm all about it. I like what they did.

(41:12):
I wish they would have grabbed Shador probably rather than
Will Howard in the fifth round, but other than that,
I think the Pittsburgh Steelers once again aced it. So
congratulations to them. Congratulations is class. I'm excited for Caleb
Johnson'm excited for everything the Steelers are doing. And also
they got dk Metcalf for a second round pick. Brother, Like,
when you factor that in, I'm all in. Let's go

(41:32):
to the Baltimore Ravens though here, Derek, how did you
feel like their draft shaped up? I love that first
round pick. Malachi Stark's phone all the way to twenty
seven felt like a very Raven's ish draft.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Perfect description. It was just the Ravens doing kind of
Ravens things, man like getting really talented safeties in the
first round falling to them talented sec guys. I mean,
look like the Starks pick was just fantastic. Mike Green
falls to the second round. I guess they were okay
with his off the field stuff and all that checked out,

(42:03):
But he does follow up for a player that a
lot of people said like first round talent, but off
the field stuff, I think definitely weighed in and why
you saw him dip to the round two. So we'll see,
like obviously that that fits a need for them, because
we talked about it, like whether it was on stream
or prior, like ban always not getting any younger, Like
they're not a team that likes to pay their edges

(42:24):
and stuff like that, so other guys like they're headed
out the door and stuff like that. So Mike Green
was a fantastic pick. Emery Jones probably gonna be a
guard in the NFL, but taking him round three field
a need. And then you just saw them just kind
of stacking depth throughout the rest of the class man,
addressing linebacker, addressing tackle, even grabbing a kicker and stuff
like that. So like while outside of their top three picks,

(42:46):
like I might not be like head over heels and
love for it. I think there was a lot of
really good depth that was needed for their roster. So
I'm getting them an A minus. Where were you at?

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Yeah, I'm in an A because not only do I
think Starks will just keeps up Kyle Hamilton to just
be Kyle Hamilton, right, you can play and anchor that
back end. Mike Green, as you mentioned, off the field
issues push him down the board, but if there's a
place you can get it together, kind of like Pittsburgh,
I think Baltimore's an organization. They're buttoned up. They know
how to get it done and how to be professionals.

(43:15):
And I actually really like the two offensive linemen from
LSU because Emery Jones in the third I think that's
a great pick, and then Garrett Dellinger in the seventh.
Like these guys, if Dellinger had to somehow get into
the starting lineup, he has already has some great chemistry
with Emery Jones working down there in Baton Rouge for
the last couple of years. So I like that. And

(43:36):
I also like the fact that, like hey, Justin Tucker,
he's a future Hall of Famer, maybe the best kicker
in NFL history, but we got to move on. It
is time to add the future of that position going.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Tyler, Dude, I think that's.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Like I didn't think about that.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Yeah, he's gonna get released. And the more the more
smoke that's come out about that, Like where there's enough smoke,
there's fire and stuff like that, I think he's gone
for good reason.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Yeah. So the Ravens, great, great job by them. You
had an as I have an a. I would think
we both really liked this class. Either way, Let's go ahead,
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that lasted one year in Drawd Mayo as well, so

(45:30):
Mike Frable, Josh McDaniels, Elliott Wolf and company. They strapped
in for an NFL draft where they had the fourth
overall pick. Did they do enough, though, Derek to earn
a high praise and high grade from you.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Man? All right, so I'm gonna stay in a little
bit of posed to our colleague Andre Erickson, who gave
them I'm gonna say he's a homer, gave them an
a minus. I can't get there, dude, I give them
a be Okay. I think there's a lot of variability
in this class. One. If Will Campbell doesn't stick a tackle,

(46:05):
you're really gonna be happy you draft him at fourth overall.
I understand the need. I underget it, but I just, dude,
it's either trade down or I would have rather them
select arm On Membu, Like, you know, that guy a
straight up tackle, Like we can debate whether he plays
rights our left side and his fit and stuff like that,

(46:27):
but I know he's a freaking tackle, Like I just
Campbell has to stick a tackle for for that pick
the payoff at fourth overall.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Did you hear a sound bite though?

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Oh, go ahead, tell me he had.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
He had a sound bite. They asked him how he
was gonna protect Drake Man. He said he would die
on the field protect Drake may so. Great sound bite,
but the arms are concerning. I think, great.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Sound bite, but if he's dying on the field at guard,
you're still not gonna be happy that she used to
use the top five selection to freaking get him, man.
So yeah, Trevion Henderson, I love, I love the player,
and just my whole thing with picking him in the
second round and looking at this roster and all of
the needs and stuff like that, is that really where
you needed to go when you already had Ramandre Stevenson,

(47:10):
you already had Antonio Gibson. And I'm not telling people
to be high on them, but again, like was running
back where they needed to go at that point in
the draft. That's where I'm kind of like, I like
Trevion and this is not Travion, but like, again, going
further down the board, I really really love the Jared
Wilson pick in the third round. Like he's a definitive
starting center. He's gonna be solid for them. I don't
think he's gonna turn into some all pro center, but

(47:32):
is he gonna be a starting level caliber center in
the NFL for the next five to who knows ten years? Probably? Okay,
So I like that pick, But dude, I feel like
looking at what they did, and I know that there
are stands for this guy out there. I mean we've
all been out there on social media. There is a lot,

(47:54):
there is a hive that freaking loves Kyle Williams. I'm
not part of that hive, dude, Like, I'm sorry, late breakout,
late career numbers for Kyle Williams. Sure he's fast and
all this other kind of stuff. I don't see high
end talent the way that I look at Dude, I
cannot square it to myself taking Kyle Williams over Jalen

(48:16):
Nol And I know that it's splitting hairs and I
know I'm caping up for my guy, but I'm sorry, man, Like,
this feels like taking Jalen Polk and not getting Lad
McConkey all over again to me. And I'm like, and
I'm sorry, dude, I just can't. I can't get down
with that, Like yeah, I And fine, is that particular
to me and how I evaluated these guys? Yeah, but

(48:38):
guess what I'm doing the damn grading. So that's how
I feel about it, man, Like, I'm just I'm not
as high on this. Like sure, like that they add
depth throughout the rest of their class. Okay, fine, that
that's good. But the other thing about it is like
outside of outside of Trayvon if you count him towards
the passing attack, and outside of Kyle Williams, what else

(48:59):
did you do to help this freaking passing attack? And
Drake May, is that really enough? I don't think it is? Sad.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Yeah, I will say this. So last night my brother's
in town. We fired up NCAA twenty five and he
was Georgia and I was Wazoo. I feeded Kyle Williams
every he finished this game. Derek with like twelve receptions
two doesn't.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Play real football as well as you play mad I
mean as well as you play video games, sir. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Yeah, Kyle Williams is a strange prospect because like he
really had the breakout after cam Ward leaves right, like
no one would have kind of expected that. And I
do agree with you, like why I like that soundbit
from Will Campbell. It feels tough to miss out on
like that top tier elite talent at the top of
the draft when you had the fourth overall pick. So
I'm totally down with you for there. I gave a
B plus specifically because I like Joshua Farmer. He was

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a huge contributor that they got in the fourth round.
Back when Florida State had that amazing twenty twenty three
season that everyone was so mad they got Snow from
the postseason. This defensive tackle was absolutely wrecking run games
across the ACC, So I thought that was a really
nice addition late in the fourth round. I don't hate
Kyle Williams, I think as much as maybe you or

(50:12):
a lot of people. I'm definitely not like a Kyle
Williams stand. I think now he's going to be a
great value in drafts, like I'm targeting him in rookie
drafts just because there's not much there besides Stefan Diggs.
So I'm all right with what the Patriots did. I
don't love it by any means, by totally understand kind
of the overall B grade for you.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Yeah, I just dude, I mean, come on, we got
this is your wide receiver room after Stefan Diggs, and
you tell me that this feels like they did enough.
Seth Mac Collins, Pop Douglas, Kayshawn Boute, Kendrick Bourne, John Giles,
Jalen Polk, Javon Baker, Jawan Jackson, Kyle Williams. Yeah, yeah,

(50:51):
that really, really really feel like we need that for
Drake Bay in the second year. We're maximizing the rookie
deal for Drake may I was.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Looking at like the Cowboys depth chart at receiver. We'll
talk about that in our show. Yeah, well that's compared
and ugly.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
He's right there.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Next up we have the New York Jets and Debro.
I've deferred to you on a lot of these grades first,
but I gotta throw my one out for the Jets
because I'm a Frisky Jets fan. I have a Frisky
Jets line of T shirts that we've dropped on the
IBT site. I love the Jets, but like, what the
heck was this D plus for me? I man, come on, Sene,
you coming in with salt?

Speaker 2 (51:27):
I love this. Go ahead. I'm just gonna sit back here, listen.
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
How can you take Membo when you know all all
accounts are saying he's gonna be a great tackle, but
at the same time, you passed on brock Bowers last
year for Olu Fashionu out of Penn State, who also
plays this same position. And like, the line is sturdy now.
I think the line was sturdy before this, but now
it's just gonna be Breisee Hall, Garrett Wilson, justin Field's legs.

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Like that's the offense here, and Mason Taylor solid, but
we've talked about that he kind of lacks that lead
upside a little bit. I had other tight ends would
have heerd they go with and like my favorite picks
probably on this entire team, that that they went after.
I loved the Bama safety Malachai Moore in the fourth.
He was banged up a lot this past season, but
when healthy, he was a beast. And then Azrai Thomas

(52:13):
as well, Florida State cornerback, another guy who had a
big role in that twenty twenty three team in the third.
I like those picks, but like Arian Smith in the fourth,
early fourth, when there are guys, there are guys who
have actual hands, they're guys.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
You went there, you went there. I love it. I
love it.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
I mean aman who was on the board, dude, like
Jalen Royals is still on the board.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
You Yeah, We're like this, and I'm go ahead, go ahead.
I don't mean.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
That's it, that's it for me.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
I'm with you. I'm just live updating my grade as
we're going through this, Like I'm like, yeah, you're making
a lot of really good points. I was a little
bit too nice. I'm dropping them to a C. So
here's the thing. I love the Membo pick in the
first round. I'm fine with that because I feel like
if you look at just from none only like need

(53:01):
because they needed a starting right tackle, not only form need,
but also you look at Justin Field's you need to
give him the cleanest pockets in the most time in
the pocket that you possibly can't. I have no issues
with that, but agreed with after that, like in the
second round, like Mason Taylor. I've talked about him like
we've talked about him in spades, Seth like he's a

(53:21):
solid prospect. I don't see the ceiling with him. So
is he going to be a needle mover for you?
I don't think so. I think you're getting a solid starting.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Time Tyler Conklin, you just had I mean.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Dude, my conference was Jermaine Gresham. So like again, I
think he's solid. I don't think he's amazing. Here's my
big problem twofold Ezary Thomas. I don't have a problem
with the value in the third round. You just went
out and paid Brandon Stevens. So what why did you
go pay Brandon Stevens just to turn around and draft

(53:53):
another corner in the third round instead of going with
a pass catcher.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
And they got to pay saw soon too, dude.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
And then after that, like, just like you said, Arian Smith,
bro come on, like, are you serious? He's like, I get,
I get he's fast, but he ain't that fast. And
the other thing about it, I mean, did I don't
ever ever ever share my comp for him? And I
feel like this is very apapos for Arian Smith. Do
you ever see the replacements? Yes, my comp for Arian

(54:23):
Smith is Clifford Franklin, fast as all get out, can
get open, can't catch anything. And it's like, dude, like,
but look at the depth charts. It's like, fine, we
give just a fields a ton of time in the pocket.
Who the hell is he throwing the ball to besides
Gary Wilson and maybe Mason Taylor. It's a whole lot
of what the heck are you doing? Dude?

Speaker 1 (54:42):
And I like Malachi Corley too.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
I see, and I don't. I think Malai Corley's was
a terrible pick and shouldn't anyway, might go down a
long rabbit hole with that, But like the rest of
this draft, dude, I just I feel like they kind
of got lost in the sauce and kind of like
lost the the reason of what they should be addressing
and stuff like that. Azary Thomas pick makes zero damn
sense to me. When you went out and you paid
Brandon Stevens if there was a hole at corner, I

(55:06):
understand it, but drafting him when you already filled the
need in free agency and pay the dude not like
otherworldly contract but good enough, why did you again take
another pass catcher? Like you fill the need with your
first pick, you fill the need with your second pick,
and then they just crap the bed with the third
and fourth round picks, where I'm just like, I'm not

(55:26):
hating on Thomas as a player and the value they
got on him, but the need wasn't there, and you
still didn't address pass catcher because Arian Smith has frying
pan aim.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Sure, yeah, for sure, because the big thing.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
About pass catcher is they gotta catch passes, right.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Seth They do, they do. And funny enough, going back
to the NCAA game last night, my brother was Georgia, Oh,
Arian Smith can't catch it in the video game either.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
So did he drop one in the video game? O Oh, dude, fourth.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Down needed it could have got back in the game. Yeah,
Arian Smith doing Arion Smith things. Brother, Like, oh man, we're.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Looking in the Crystalhaull future for the Jets.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Let's go to the Miami Dolphins. Was it a little
better draft for Mike McDaniel and company down there, you think?

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Yeah? I think it was solid. I gave him a
bee man. Look, I mean I feel like their first
two picks filled huge needs. Okay, and I mean so,
I mean people were surprised. I think they went detackled. Dude.
I was screaming the entire process my first few mocks.
I was actually giving them either Kenneth Grant or Walter
Nolan consistently. Yeah, Like I was on them getting a detackle.

(56:33):
Now my final mock because of how I had it
shifted out, Mason Graham fell to them. But I was
right on the need there detackle. Looking at their depth
chart was horrible, horrendous. They had nobody basically like to
throw at the position. So getting Kenneth Grant I thought
was a really good pick. Jonas savn Al was another
smash pick, but then after that he was kind of

(56:54):
hitting ground rule doubles and like, okay, fine, like when
you'res round seven, like you just you just could have
let him go undrafted. It's okay, Like it's totally fine,
Like I'm sorry, but that was a burnt pick. He's
probably never gonna see the field. If he does see
the field, it's not gonna be pretty. You get Ali
Gordon there, who like we we lowed and we talk

(57:17):
about like the Dolphins covening speed and in their run
game and stuff like that. Well, OLLI Gordon might be
a lot of things, fast ain't one of them. So like,
I just felt like I love their first two picks.
The rest of it was kind of like Jordan Phillips again,
d tackle was a big knee. But the other part
about this two seth is that, like I mean, they

(57:38):
had two picks inside the top one hundreds, So it's like,
how good can you feel about a draft class Whenever
it's like, yeah, your only premium picks are both in
the top forty and then you have squat osh until
you get into the one forties. So it's like, how
good can you really feel about a class when that's
the case. So I gave him a B.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Yeah, I'm with you. I think it was a B
for me too, And like, I love the Kenneth Grant pick.
I love going back into the trenches in the second
round Arizona guard Jonas Savignia. Like, those are great picks,
but they didn't have a pick then till the fifth round,
and like I just would have preferred other skilled players
and Allie Gordon Quinn years. That's yep, that's that's really
all it is, so b for the Dolphins. Let's go
to the Buffalo Bills to round out this division. Derek,

(58:18):
do you like what Brandon Bean did here? You know,
kind of said, like we're good on offense, brother, let's
get this defense in better shape to beat the Chiefs. Finally, dude,
I love this draft.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
I'm much higher, but I saw Andrew Erickson get him
a be Like, this is an A plus draft class
for me. I love this draft class because they just
consistently filled big needs on this defense. You got Bosa
only on a one year deal, so you go out
and you get edge help Landon Jackson falls to freaking
third round and they scooped him up. Yeah, home run pick.

(58:49):
Then they get TJ. Sanders. We could talk about, Okay,
was it maybe a little bit early for TJ Sanders? Fine,
But the other part about it. Do you tackle was
a big need? You go all the way back to
the first round. Okay, we talked about it, and I
bet it. We bet it. We talked about it on
the Betting Show about the Buffalo Bills taking a cornerback
with their first overall pick that was plus two hundred

(59:10):
plus two fifty. So if you chase that bet on
betting Pros, you're welcome. He cashed it with Maxwell Harrison.
We could talk about all the different corners that were
on there, but again addressing a need, and they go
back to d tackle with Dion Walker in the fourth
round address cornerback. Again. Corner was a monster need for
this team, so taking two swings at it, two swings

(59:32):
at dtackle, and then rounding it out the rest of
it with depth. Jackson Hawes, who I don't think is
a great player, but like, you know what he's going
to be. He is going to be a twelve personnel
tight end and he's going to block his butt off
for you. So if that's all you're asking for out
of your freaking fifth round pick, fine. I love this
draft for the Bills because again, you want teams to

(59:52):
either add on to strengths and make something that's really
damn good elite, or you want them to address needs
and get really talented players. The buff Falo bill said,
these are the needs that we have, and we are
going to emphatically address them. I love that approach.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
Yeah, I do too. I want to b plus a
little less aggressive, and like, I think one of the
main reasons is, like I like the Hairston pick. I
think they need to go cornerback early. I just don't
know how good of a player he's gonna be. Like,
I get he's fast, and he was really really good
in twenty twenty three, but definitely regressed in twenty twenty
four a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
So I have if that was Trey Amos, what would
your grade be like, if it was a corner you
liked in the draft, would you have bump them to
like an A or A plus?

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Probably?

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Probably? Okay, Yeah, Okay, I'm just I'm just parting through it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
It's like, Okay, I love the Dion Walker pick. I
cannot believe he was there when they got him, because
I mean, if you watch that Kentucky Georgia game, this
guy was clogging up every dang run hole that Etn
and company were trying to run through. So I love
that pick. As you said, Landa Jackson, great value out
of Arkansas, TJ. Sanders out of South Carolina. Those are
awesome picks. The only other your thing for me? Did

(01:01:01):
you need Kane Praither in the seventh? Like, I feel
like you already have an unathletic X receiver on the
team in Keon Coleman's I just don't know. I just don't.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
I like, I don't know you were gonna go there,
but Shaded, Keon, I'm here for it. I'm here for it,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Yeah, It's just a similar player. So so those are
the only things. Praither in the seventh I don't know
if I love and I like Hairston, but I just
don't know what we're getting from in the first round.
So those are the only things. But other than that,
I love what they did. So congratulations to the Bills
once again crushing it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Man, I didn't think we were getting ke On Coleman
Shade on the show today.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Okay, he was another guy in my dynasy rookie draft
that got moved around for like a third and fourth
pick last night, which I would have taken.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Mister Fitzmorris and myself. We we fought tooth and nail
about last process about Keon Coleman. I was out, he
was in. Okay, it was. It was a spirited debate.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Uh.

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Let's move Forward's round out the show here, Debro with
the AFC West and the Las Vegas Raiders. What do
you think about this new look Raiders team, what they've
been doing with Tom Brady potentially calling the shots from
behind the scenes.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
I think you can make a really easy case this
was the best draft class the entire NFL. And I
I mean again apparently, so you don't think about being
hyperbolic with that. I gave him an A plus plus
plus plus plot like they hit an absolute and utter
grand slam here. I loved everything they did in this class.

(01:03:18):
I mean, dude, getting Ashton genty, He's going to be
the workhorse, the engine of your offense. Darien porter Bro.
If there was ever like you made a Pete Carroll,
like like harken back to the Legion of Boom. You
make a athletic, big cornerback that can run out that
We could talk about his game for days and the

(01:03:38):
things he's got to clean up if it all hits,
He's gonna be really stinking good. He is a Pete
Carroll corner. Then you get Jack Besh, who is not
only going to be I think that again, the best
football was in front of Jack Besh. You take him
in the second round. He's a culture fit, he's a dog,
he's going to block his ass off, and he's going
to be a guy that is pushing every single other
person around him, and again we have not seen the

(01:04:00):
best football out of him. Then you take two swings
at tackle in the third round, Charles Grant and kid
leerb Rogers. So whatever happens or does not happen with
Colton Miller, hopefully you're trying to cover yourself as well
as if Glaze isn't that guy. You're basically drafting two
possible guys and saying, look, if we at one starter
out of this, cool, If we get two out of it,

(01:04:22):
bro we are cooking. And then after that, Dante Thornton
talked about him all draft process. I don't care that
he's really really fast and he's big and he runs
go routes, deep overs. If you look at his fit
for this offense, they've got tons of route winners and
guys they're gonna pepper in the underneath and genty Bowers

(01:04:43):
Myers and Besh Thornton can get on the outside and
blaze dudes and take the top off the freaking defense.
So that pick loved it. They go with JJ in
round six to like they get the beef upfront in
round four and round six with Hemingway and Pegas, Like, bro,
come on on, man, like this draft class was I mean,

(01:05:04):
it was a masterclass. It was awesome to see them
go and attack all their needs.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
It's a loaded division, but dude, like, I'm with you.
I gave it an a plus. I mean you mentioned
I don't have much to add, but two culture guys
right off the baut Gent and Besh. You love that.
You love the Darian Porter value that they got there
as well, and then like just kind of use the
rest of their draft to address wide receiver in the trenches.
Dante Thornton Junior Like, I am like a little Sacks.
I have a bunch of Trey Tucker that's kind of

(01:05:31):
just been clogging Rosters and Dynasty. But like poof yeah
tells you all you know they think about him. So
I'm with you, man, the Raiders, I don't know like
how I could get invested in maybe it's a season
win total. But I'm definitely gonna be looking the Raiders
way a little bit here. I think in some future
betting markets for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
No, I agree, depending on what the odds are. I
think betting they're over for wins is already like I'm
gonna lock it in. I'm betting that today on betting pros.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
Let's go ahead, let's go to the Denver Broncos. What
did you think about the Broncos draft?

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Here? I gave him a B. I love their first
two picks. I absolutely loved their first two picks, getting
Jaday Baron, putting him at Nickel. I mean, dude, this
is the.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Best secondary in the entire league.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Good luck as all I can say. Good luck to
any team that's gonna try to throw the ball on
the Denver Broncos. You better hope you could run the
damn ball, because if you go to draw back to pass,
it's gonna be an adventure. And all I can say
is good luck. And then getting R. J. Harvey, I mean,
we waxed and Wayne just poetic on this guy. The
entire process. My RB five going into the NFL draft,

(01:06:34):
my RB three of this class coming out of it
after landing spot. I love this dude. I think he's
a lockstep fit. Anybody's gonna shade him. Look, I'm sorry
you weren't high enough on him pre draft. That's not
my fault, that's your own. But looking at the rest
of this draft, I thought that, like after their first
two picks, it's kind of where it came off the
rails a little bit for me, Like Pat Bryant round three.

(01:06:55):
I know he's like to Courtland Suton, right, I mean, dude,
but did you have to take him in round three? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
I don't see how he was gonna like outside of
Sean Payton. But Sean Payton has evoke the name of
Michael Thomas bro I don't see that, but okay whatever.
Hopefully like that turns out to be a thing. But
then the rest of it was just filling needs and
stuff with good but maybe not great picks. So it's
just tough. Like if they would have had better selections,

(01:07:24):
I felt like maybe in round three or maybe another
like player in round four that like I could really
like hang my hat on. Yeah, maybe this was an
a class for me, but it's just to be.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Yeah, I have an A minus is they're great, and
maybe I do need to know who did you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Love after the top two picks then, like who did
you who pushes it into a territory, Like who are
you gravitating to with those rests of those picks?

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Well, I don't think going after two sec edges in
round three and round four hurts, like one of those
guys are probably gonna hit just do the sec and
what the the caliber of defenders were coming out of there,
Like there's nothing I'm jumping on my seat for. And like,
I think I liked Pat bryan just because again I
watched a lot of Big Ten football and this guy
really was everything for Illinois's passing game. So I think

(01:08:06):
Pat Bryant can be great. But to me, it's like
his ceiling is like a lesser Courtland Sutton. So I
don't know if that was the right move. Like I
almost would have rather seen someone like a Knowle or
you know, someone like that kind of kind of come
here that can play immediately out of the slot because
they're gonna still be rolling out Vle. So you're probably right.
I'm gonna mend it. We're gonna go b plus here.

(01:08:26):
I'll make sure I like.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
That I mean, I think we're gonna go the X,
the big X receiver route. Not like there weren't guys
that you could do that, but I felt like, yeah,
you can easily take those swings late, Like, is there
a big giant difference between a Pat Bryant and even
like somebody like an Andrew Armstrong, Like like at the
very very tailtail end of it, you know what I mean? Like,
that's that's kind of where I fell on it, where

(01:08:49):
it was like, Okay, I just didn't love where they
went after their top two picks, but I did love
their top two.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
I love Baron. Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
That was an elite.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
That's scary, man, that's gonna be a scary secondary for sure.
Set your fantasy wide receivers against the Denver Broncos. Please,
that's a little free advice there for you. Let's go
to the Chargers. Derek Brown, I really love this draft, man,
Like I feel like you can really see Jim Harball's
knowledge of this current class paying off. What did you
think of the Chargers overall class? What grade did he

(01:09:19):
give it?

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Oh? I give him an a minus. Man, I like
this class. I thought it was really really good. I
mean getting Hampton in round one falling to them, I
thought was fantastic. You know my love for Trey Harris,
so getting him to play opposite Lad McConkey.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
The whole world knows, brother bro, I mean, but it was.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
It was a perfect fit stylistically, and I think people
are gonna put a lot more respect on Trey Harris's
name with this landing spot and what he can do.
I mean, I'm not I don't even know Mike Williams
even makes it out of camp. I'm not worried about
Quentin Johnston. And they show that they were willing to
lean on like a rookie and Lad last year, so
I think they could definitely do that. And then they
just went down the board answering needs dude, yep, getting

(01:09:57):
caledwell a d tackle in round three, get Canard to
the round four.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
Was a steal.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
And they go back and they get a Rendez gadst
in a round five, like you wanted the the not
the dollar store version of like, but the similar archetype
of like Harold Fannin and that entire archetype of the
big slot wide receiver that's Gadson, dude, And so like
getting him in round five I thought was fantastic. So
like I thought, they addressed a lot of freaking needs

(01:10:26):
that the two safeties they got at the end again
giving them depth. I love their class. That was wonderful.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Yeah, it felt like last year was really about building
that Jim Harball culture, building through the trenches, and this
class was, Hey, let's give Justin Herbert some serviceable weapons
in Hampton and Harris so he can go make a run.
I know a lot of people are higher up on
KeAndre Lambert Smith out of Auburn, former Penn State guy.
I'm not as high on him, but still take a

(01:10:52):
flyer with him.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
And I love that. Fine.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
Yeah, I love though Ronde Gadston the second pick.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
Because this is a guy, really underrated pick and.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
He doesn't have to play right away. They have Disley,
they have Tyler Conklin, so like he can kind of
just sit there and develop. And I want to be
shocked if two or three years from now, Gadsden's a
guy who is the every down tight end for this team.
So I'm with you. It's an A for me. You
have an A minus for the charters. Good on them.
Let's round out the program here at the Kansas City Chiefs. Derek,
what did you think Andy Reid and company did here?

(01:11:21):
What is your grade for the Chiefs?

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
I love and I hate it. I'm just gonna throw
that out there. I hate everything about this class from
like looking at it trying to figure out what the
hell to do from a fantasy angle. Yeah, I love
this class from what they did though I gave them
an A. Josh Simmons is a fantastic pick. I mean, dude, like,
you're not asking him to do anything this year. He's

(01:11:44):
just a guy that can step in and be your
starting tackle next year. So love that. And if he
was healthy, there's no way in hell he's available at
a thirty second overall pick. Then getting a lot in
the second round you needed help on the defensive line,
going back to it in the third round, getting corner
back help in the third round with Noel Williams again
I talked about him earlier and why he was still
on the freaking board. Then you get Jaling Royals in

(01:12:06):
the freaking fourth round. Plus, like, they got two of
my dudes out of this class. They signed Elijah Badger
as a UDFA. Not just throwing that because it's part
of the class in here. Yeah, and Breshard Smith. Dude,
if we look up in week seven and Brischhard Smith
is leading this backfield or he's playing the Jared McKinnon role,
nobody should be surprised at all, dude. So I again,

(01:12:32):
it's a really good class with the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
I'm with you there, like I think I would have
liked to see them like I do like Brishard Smith.
You've been talking them up for a long time, but
in a running back class this deep, I would have
liked to see them maybe add someone a bit more
of a power back that could have complimented or maybe
even push Isaiah Pacheco out because Pachaco is on the
last year of his rookie deal, so I just would
have liked them to maybe find a suitable replacement for him.

(01:12:57):
But overall, the Chiefs address the positions that lost them
the Super Bowl. So how can you give them anything
less than a B plus for me? So it's a
B plus for me, it's an A minus or an
A for you that is going to do it for
us today on this episode of the Fantasy Pros NFL
Draft Show, be sure check out our NFC Grades episode.
They'll be dropping later this week. Again, please like this

(01:13:18):
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