November 6, 2024 • 25 mins
Ryan Wormeli, Andrew Erickson, and Chris Welsh bring you the top WRs to buy, sell, and hold for Week 10 in fantasy football. The fellas break down Darnell Mooney, Josh Downs, Jayden Reed, and many more names ahead of another great week of games!
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Intro - 0:00:00
WRs to Buy - 0:00:11
Darnell Mooney - 0:00:22
FantasyPros Trade Analyzer - 0:04:46
Josh Downs - 0:05:02
WRs to Sell - 0:08:40
Jayden Reed - 0:08:44
Jaxon Smith-Njigba - 0:15:35
WR Buy, Sell, and Hold - 0:19:32
Marvin Harrison Jr., DJ Moore, and Zay Flowers - 0:21:44
Diontae Johnson, Calvin Ridley, and Khalil Shakir - 0:22:57
Weekly Trade Livestream - 0:24:38
Outro - 0:24:53
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast. I'm
RYD Warmley, joining this Tuesday morning by Andrew Rickson and
by Chris Welsh. Fellows, we are diving into the wide
receivers here. Some guys to buy, some guys to sell.
You can buy hi, buy low, sell high, selo. You
know how the show's go show goes at this point,
it's wide receiver trade show, Welsh, What wide receiver are
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you buying right.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Now, Atlanta Falcons Darnell Mooney, whether it is buying at
a high buying at a median value. I want to
buy Darnell Mooney. That's what I am into right now
this week, this past week, Week nine, number one in
first read percentage according to Fantasy Points, fifty two percent,
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a wild first read percentage, and we had we had
Drake London in that game for a decent period of
time where he is one of the top ten. I
believe he's like ninth or tenth on the season and
overall first read percentage. But while Drake London has dominated
that on this season, Mooney is also inside the top
twenty five of first read percentage at around twenty nine percent.
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He's actually got within point zero one of Nico Collins
first read percentage. Why do I care about that? Because
its first looks, its first looks. In this passing offense.
He's had five or more targets in every single game
but one. He has had eight targets or more in
three of the last five games. On top of it all,
in the Andrew Rickson Playbook of Schedules, third best schedule
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for wide receivers to end out the season. And Drake
London with this hit pointer thing, we don't know if
there's going to be miss time. Darnell Mooney has just
been a fantasy gym the whole just an easy, underplayed
fantasy gym in this passing offense. We would have thought
the number two read in the Atlanta Falcons offense coming
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into this year was going to be Kyle Pitts. Eh,
it's incorrect. It's Darnell Mooney. And if London is to
miss time, Mooney will one hundred percent just jump into
that role because he's already one of those just high
first read guys, so he can stretch the field deep.
He's getting those first looks, get him into the red
zone looks. That's been a heavy thing that Drake London
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has had. I just think all signs are pointing and
I'm just not sure that the cost is going to
cost of a top to top twenty four wide receiver.
So by that, I really think Darnall Mooney has a
chance to just continue running on as a top twenty
four wide out. So I want to go and buy
Darnall Mooney for rest of season.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
To that point, Welsh, he's not in the top twenty
four in ECR, in half EPR amongst wide receivers. He's
wide receiver twenty nine rest of season. That might go
up a little bit during this week as people, you know,
kind of further react to the Drake London injury. But
Eric Sin, I'm curious, do you think that the London
injury is a good thing for Moodey and that he'll
get more targets or is it a bad thing and
that he'll now get more of defensive attention, you know
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from top cornerbacks going up against the Falcons.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I mean, I don't really think so. I think it's volume.
I think it's a volume play here. Drake London operates
a different part of the field. Again, if the offense
is worse, then it's not good for Mooney. But where
does Mooney scores touchdowns from all over the field from
their own twenty yard line because he generates big plays.
So I wouldn't be concerned about Moon. I think that
you just want volume, and I think that Mooney's going
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to deliver and he's a guy that has a thousand
yard season on his resume. Drack London doesn't as crazy
as that sounds to say, but like Mooney was, again,
I was wrong about London. I wasn't high enough on
him in draft season, but I loved Mooney as a
wide receiver. Sixty nine ADP Troll Firm doesn't ever let
me forget.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I'm just going to say we have to shout out
Terrell because he was all over Darnelle.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, and he always tags me and any time Mooney
does something good, all a sudden, he's like, why is
your sixty nine AIGHTP? I'm like, you know it, brother,
So yeah, I think this is a great play going
after Darnel Mooney because I think probably wide receiver twenty nine.
I mean based on his receiving art He's top twenty
and receiving arts per game this year, the entire season
so I know it's inflated by a couple big games
against the Bucks, but still like he's producing and I
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don't see a reason why he won't produce favorable schedule
when they banged up good job Welsh.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, he's another guy if you look at kind of
the finish his week tweak and I don't think you
said this already Ericson, but he you know, he's has
one wide receiver two finished on the season. He has
one wide receiver three finishing the season, which by the way,
is the very back end of wide receiver three was
wide receiver thirty six. Everything else is he's either outside
the top thirty six or he's inside the top ten
so far this season. So now two of those inside
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the top ten were in the last two weeks, so
now we get even more volume for him. I do
agree with the call as well. I wanted to kind
of pose the question on Drake London, but ultimately I agree,
like this is somebody that I want to be investing in.
And again I said it already. The costs like wide receiver
twenty nine, that's too low for him. So I'd be
really happy to go after a guy like Mooney seems
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like a strong buy. You can use the trade Analyzer
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or even in Dynasty. I'm sure the trade analyzer will
tell you that trading for Darnown Moon is a smart
call ericson what ride receiver are you.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Buying, I'm going for the post hype sleeper Josh Downs,
who did not deliver as the Colts offense did not
deliver entirely with Joe Flakau on Sunday Football against Minnesota Vikings.
So shout out to Patis Morris for not being part
of the Downs. Let's pump him up as high as
we can in the ranking. So that's why fitzpranks higher
than me in the rankings competition. But that doesn't mean
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I'm out on Josh Downs rest of the season because
despite a pretty lackluster performance, still hyper targeted thirty three
percent target share, forty five percent target rate per route run.
I don't think Michael Payman is healthy. This guy has
two catches in the last two games despite seeing ten targets.
I think that he's banged up. I don't know when
he's going to be healthy, and that means Josh Downs
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is just going to continue to see targets because you
know who's the quarterback rest of season, Joe Flacco. That's
gonna be the guy. So I'm just chasing volume here
with Josh Downs. Again, the Vikings was a tough matchup.
Again on paper, the Vikings are a team that's given
up a lot of points of receivers, but it's because
teams have railed and have gotten a lot of points
in garbage time to get Half of those numbers are
probably from that one Packers game where Jordan Love was
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thrown it all across the yard in the second half.
So again, it's a good defense and they're not gonna
play the Vikings defense every single week. So I don't
love the Colts schedule rest of the season. I can't
believe I've become the schedule guys, the schedule guy to
you people. So I don't love that necessarily, but I'm
gonna keep bringing it to the table. I guess I
might as well embrace it. So don't love the schedule
rest season, but I think the volume is there for
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Downs with Pittman banged up and with Flacco at quarterbacks,
so after he was really hyped up last week didn't deliver.
I think people are gonna be I was wrong about Downs.
I think this is an opportunity to buy.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I think that the schedule is a good thing to
mention for him specifically though, because like for example, this
past week, I was all in, not all in, but
I liked Downs this week. The reason that Fits's kind
of argument against them works for me is that this
is not a good matchup for Joe Flacco facing this
pass rush in Minnesota. So I think looking at the defense,
when you have a quarterback who is limited, and by
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the way, whether it's Anthony Richardson or Joe Flats, these
are limited you know options for the Colts right now.
It will impact how Josh Downs's numbers look on a
week to week basis. I still definitely obviously prefer him
with Flacco, but if he goes up against a team
that has a ferocious pass rush, I'm probably gonna be
a lot more hesitant to be interested in really anybody
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in any of the pass catchers in this offense. So
I think it's a legitimate thing to keep an eye
on Welsh. What are you doing with Downs?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah? I actually almost picked this one as well, just because,
like the pass rush is actually a super important thing
because that offensive line. I couldn't believe it when I
didn't watch the entirety of the game, But like towards
the end, I'm like check in to see how Josh
Downs is doing. Every single play, every single rusher was
in Joe Flacco's face and he clearly is not gonna
be able to get off a good ball. The positive though,
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is when he did, and when he can't, it does
go to Josh Downs. He is the safety net. So yeah,
I mean there's a lot of victory lapping about, like, oh,
we're gonna have been jentthey Richardson for Flacco? How about me now?
And it's like, okay, well, you know, I don't. I
still don't really think that argument plays because you know,
that same energy over to the bad weeks of Anthony Richardson,
All of this just still comes back to Josh Dowins
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Pittman with the struggle. Josh Downs still got whatever that
their version of higher volume was. And we do know
in general, if you're not going up against like well said,
a ferocious pass rush. They're gonna have a little bit
more time and you're gonna see probably double digit targets
for Josh Dowens. So it's a post hype trade that
I think makes a ton of sense. You're probably gonna
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get some value on it with people being like hands up,
oh the coult stink everything is a disaster. I think
this is actually like a really sharp play hashtag too
sharp for ericson.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Well, let's go to the guys. We're selling. What wide
receiver do you want to sell right now?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
So I'm gonna sell this guy off of a big week,
and I don't think Erickson's gonna I feel like Erickson's
gonna push back on me against this one. I'm gonna
go Jaden Reid with the Green Bay Packers. And you know,
when you look at the game log, obviously the weeks
with Malik Willis he completely fell apart. You get Jordan
Love back five catches, one hundred and thirteen yards like
big plays. That's that's fantastic. Though. One of the things
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I'll point out about this game, even though Love was back,
he ended up having like an eighteen I think it
was eighteen percent first read percentage, which is bad twenty
one percent on the year. So as far as like
what first looks are going to, they really haven't been
going to Jayden Reid, And that kind of leads to
he has ate so much this season on really big plays.
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So I don't want to discount that to say like
he's not going to continue making big plays. Here's what
hurts the big plays. Shall we do it again? Friends? Yes,
strength of schedule fifth worst of all wide receivers to
end out the season as far as strength of schedule goes.
So you got tougher matchups, tougher to make big plays.
Some of those big games. He had one hundred and
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thirty eight yards in game one, he had a seventy
yard play, one hundred and thirty nine yards. In Week four,
had a forty two yard play, seventy eight yards. We five,
had a fifty three yard play in this past week
forty one. So these big plays are you know, obviously
a big portion of his offense. Yet in all of
that he has three touchdowns. He's not being involved in
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the rushing side. They've got four wide receivers that they
keep using. They've got Tucker Kraft, and you have a
quarterback who health is in question for the rest of
the season. If he were a higher volume play, I
would feel better. He's not. He is a big play
guy that obviously is explosive, But I think this is
an opportunity to move off of what might be some
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big ups and downs. You know, we've talked about this
with other wideouts. The last I mean it's I guess
it's not fair to say the last three weeks, but
just to go with it, eighty one, fifty six, and
seventeen are his finishes. Obviously two of those were with Malik,
but he has had two top three, top twenty four
wide receiver finishes with Love but also outside of the forty.
So there's there's boom and bust, there's a tough schedule,
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there's a really good performance off of this week to
sell I throw this out. I know it's a no ericson,
but how close are Darnell Mooney and Jaden Reid rest
of season.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
To each other?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Not close, not even, And I disagree. I actually think
rest of season. I think Darnell Mooney and Jaden Reid
are in the same wide receiver pack rest of season
between wide receiver twenty let's call it twenty and twenty five.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
They're seventeen and twenty nine in ECR for the record
the rest of season. Yeah, yeah, rest of season. Ericson
are you surprised that Jaden Reid doesn't have more than
eleven rushing attempts through nine games, especially considering the quarterback
situation has been, you know, largely a not fully healthy
Jordan Love.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I mean that seems like a decent amount. I mean
it's like one a game.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I was kind of expecting maybe two, I like not.
I mean people kind of make the comparison as like
a poor man's debo. Samuel I wasn't expecting like several
a game, but I was. I was expecting like maybe
two or three every game most games. He said. One.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yes, by the way, three over the last four games
when Jordan Love was gone, they went away from that.
They didn't even really try to read. That's actually like
the that forty nine or playbook would be. You know,
when they're running backs are down or there's a stunt
in the offense, Deebo gets a higher percentage of carries
and that didn't happen with j Reed.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Two thirds of his rushing yards in the season came
in weeks one and two, Like the it just hasn't
been that explosive or high volume in that side of
his game from Week three and beyond, So I thought
it was a little lower than I expected.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I mean, what is it compared to other receiver? Like
how many more receivers have more rushing attempts than Reed does?
I don't know what the number is, so I guess
for me, I mean, I'm not that's That's not something
I'm really concerned about. Why is he not getting enough
rushing attempts? I just think that he's a really good player.
And when I look at matchups Week fourteen at the Lions,
he can be a top five receiver in that matchup
Week fifteen at the Seahawks, top five Week sixteen against
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the Saints. I just think that he's I think that
your point about the big plays. I think that's something
we should have a conversation about next year when we're
drafting Jane Reid, as the potential is like second round pick,
maybe that's a reason to fade him kind of after
the big Deebo Samuel year where he had just unsustainable production.
But for this year, Reed is their best player on offense.
So I'm just I'm not going to overthink it.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
You would just love that best player on offense to
get more than five touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Maybe if he didn't score on all his plays, he'd
get more targets, ie touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
He has three touchdowns. What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, and he's doing it on he hasn't even score
that many touchdowns. Committing on the mount of yardgy is
put up. I mean, when you look at just total
yards from scrimmage, I believe that he's inside the top
three among all wide receivers. Like he's right up there
at least the top to your top five. So I look,
I Janeree was my bye last week, so I'm not
going to just turn around and sell him after he
had a big game in the porn rain with a
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quarterback with the injured groin, and I'm watching him make
plays after plays and I'm like, this guy's just so good.
So that's again, I don't think that your logic is
wrong wel selling off the big plays. But I just
want to ride the wave with Jayden Reeda. I think
that he's been this good. I think that this is
a good conversation to revisit, though in draft season, depending
on where Jayden Reid ends up, where where he does
an ADP, because I think they might be overvalued.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Ericson's like Alicia Silverstone and clueless roll in with the homies.
I looked at difference.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I looked, I've seen clueless.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Okay, Eric, Eric clueless.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
You are clueless of that clue. It's a kind of
a class. It's very nineties, it's very of its time.
I did. I did pull it up. By the way,
so Jane Reid that eleven rushing tempts. It is the
second most for any wide receiver this season. Devo has
more than twice as many.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I think our expectation, like you were, I mean, he's
not He's not Debo.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
He's a very like people gets like running back carries
like sure.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
And I'm not saying he is deep, but I'm just saying,
particularly because Jordan Love has been so limited, I expected
them to use read a bit more in this way.
And again he hasn't had even multiple carries in a
game since Week five, So like it's been trending in
the in the wrong direction in terms of that volume.
So that's I'm not saying he should have as many
as Debo and again second most of the NFL amongst
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wide receivers. Like, that's a very legitimate counter by you.
I just thought it was gonna be a little bit more. Again,
I thought it was gonna be like two or three
a game when love is hurt, not zero or one
a game.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
You also have one other concern is you have to
worry if Romeo Dobbs starts crying again and takes his
ball and goes home, then like the team might have
to give him more touches. And that's a concern that
takes away from Jayden Reeve. When Romeo Dobbs gets upset.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Eric soon what wide receiver are you selling? And spoiler alert,
it's somebody you've listened here before.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
No, somebody listened last week. He recently Yes, Jack Smith
and Jigba so again obviously massive game last week. So
did not feel great about the take last week. But
sometimes this happens where never just earlier, you're a week
you're a week too early, Right, I was a week
too early saying that this is the end of JSN.
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You got to sell him. So that's that's an l
on my part. But I'm going to trust the process
here because you have a player coming off a career
game one hundred eighty yards, two touchdowns. This is the
process you want to sell receivers off peak performances. Let's
go back to Week two, who had a massive game
against the Rams, Marvin Harrison Junior. If you had probably
sold high at that point, you probably would have been
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happy with the result in the return that you got
on him. So for Jaysen, I'm just looking at the
specific matchup what he did against the Los Angeles Rams,
and DK metcalf and No. A fan were both inactive.
I did think that d K Mechap was going to
come back when I was talking about Jason as a cell. Again,
not trying to say that I was right. I was
wrong about selling him last week. But d K Mechev
is going to come back after the bye week because
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Seattle is on a bye week this week. And when
you look at what jsn and how he scored all
his points essentially against the Los Angeles Rams, it was
all downfield targets as a deep threat, which he has
not been used at whatsoever this season. His average up
of target was over twenty yards. He hasn't had a
game this year besides last week against the Rams, where
his average up the target was more than eleven yards.
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So without dk me X, he filled that void against
a beatable Rams defense that's bad against the deep ball.
I just don't think that's his role every single week.
I think that he's a guy that needs volume. Usually
he doesn't usually win with efficiency winning downfield. So for
those reasons, I just think that this is an unsustainable
type of boom game from Jasn. Again, listen back to
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last week. I didn't never say Jasn was like a
bad player. I just thought that maybe we hadn't seen
the ceiling. Clearly, that was wrong because we saw the
ceiling game against the Rams. But we've seen ceiling games
against the Rams from a lot of receivers Jamison Williams,
Marvin Harrison, Junior, Jackson Smith and Jigba, and a lot
of these guys have been up and down after those
blow up games against the Los Angeles Rams. So given that,
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I don't think that the schedule's great for Seattle rest
of season. They're on a bye week this week, number
thirty second right quarterback schedule, I think that you'll never
get more than you can for JSN right now, and
I just feel so bad that I listened to Cell
last week because I would have felt so much more
confident about selling him this week, because you could have
got so much more. So I apologize if you sold
him already, but I still think it's the right move
moved to make by selling high on JSM.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
You don't think the Cats like kind of out of
the bag with him, Like, I mean, he's only twenty
two second year receiver Like this is sometimes sometimes it
doesn't happen in the back half of you know, season one.
It takes till season two for these young receivers to
break out. You don't think this is like you know,
the Seahawks are going to look at this and say
we I mean, he could have had over two hundred
yards if it wasn't for the plays called back do
the penalties. I mean, he was so utterly dominant in
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this game that it's hard for me to think that
that the Seahawks are going to look at this and say, yeah,
we're fine, like going getting away from him again.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Do you think that he'll take over as the number
one deep threat in this offense? If you do, then
keep him. But I don't think that's the case because
Metcalf wasn't playing. That's always been Metcalf's role as the
air yards guy in this offense. So that's my concern
that his role is going to go back to primary
underneath target.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Where do you think he's gonna.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Where do you think he's gonna watch? So right now
he's wide receiver thirty five in rest of season rankings,
and again sometimes those like update throughout the week coming
off of a big performance on a Sunday, it is
only Tuesday morning. Still where do you think he winds up?
And like what he think is the right range for him?
Because to me, I think wide receiver thirty five is
currently too low.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Right because he's coming off a big game. But where
was he last week? Wide receiver?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
But I would expect moving forward, I think he will
be a better than wide receiver thirty five.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Do you think that he should be ranked the rest
of the season? I had a close care.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
They're like too a part in e cr By the
way she carries two spots behind him right now it
goes Jsid lad mccakay, Khalil Shakir, and that would be
a really interesting.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
But a bunch of a bunch of slot receivers, and
it's like, who just have a big game? Right?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
It prompt you buyseller? Whold trio? J said Lad mccakay,
Khalil Shakir ericson.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I mean, I'm probably gonna hold Shakir. I mean again,
Jay said the guy who get the most for it,
Just like then two weeks ago, mcaukee was the because
he had two touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
So let me refree it that who's the type of
name you would want to sell him for? What would
be a big enough return that you're excited about her return?
Speaker 3 (19:49):
I would I'd rather have Darnel Mooney. Okay, Donald Mooney?
Who was I talking about before? Jane Reid?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Boom, uh, well what do you think about JSN?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, the masochist in me wants Jayden Reid to go
for two hundred and twenty yards this week so we
can put him back on the list. I want to
keep doing that. I'm on both sides of this, like
I kind of agree, like when DK Metcalf comes back,
he's the big deep threat option, he's the number one
wide receiver. But there's a little part of me that
is like, I don't think the change that can destroy
the value of JSN I think them getting to use
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him in those higher rules over these last couple of weeks,
it's a good thing, and it's something that that offense
and Gino might feel more comfortable with, and he gets
more of a target share. He was already being the
guy that would go over Tyler Lockett, but then you
get three guys in the offense. I think a sharp
play is just like if you can trade json high,
do it. I don't think I'm as like you got
to get out from JSN, maybe as ericson or maybe
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it's just coming off that way. I think, like what
that that trio you had, I think I might have
bought Lad held js in and sold Khalil shak Shakier
has been going, but he also have you know Coleman,
You've got Amari Cooper, Mark Cooper wasn't active. Coleman got hurt.
Like there's a lot of guys in that offense as well.
The only difference is is like the Seahawks are one
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of the highest passing teams in the NFL, so that
leads more potential volume for JSN. Unfortunately, like for him
to be massively impactful, he does need like ten targets
a game. So I'm not as like get out from
but I think it's hard to deny if someone saw
this performance, sees, you know, young wide receiver in this
big pass heavy offense and is willing to sell. Like
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you said in the darn Olay take Darnell Mooney as well,
I think there is a good opportunity that like he
has peaked and it's only going to kind of come
down for the rest of the year.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
All right, Erickson has got to get rolland Harris, we'll
speed through our biicellar Hold Receiver edition. Marvin Harrison Junior,
DJ Moore is a Flowers again, Ericson. That's Harrison, Moore
and Flowers. Who are you buying? Who are you selling?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Who are you holding buying? Marvin Harrison Junior for the
playoff schedule, that's very very good. I'm gonna hold day
Flowers because he's on the Ravens and they just scores
more points than any other team, and I'm just gonna
I just don't want Bears, So I'm gonna sell DJ Moore,
I just don't want Bears.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Welsh, what do you think? And by the way, the
reason that include to Flowers because I know he's been
really good. Is just the thought that you know, another
weekend Deontay Johnson might get used some more. So, you know,
I don't know if there's any concern there or not.
That's why I wanted to throw him in there.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I mentally do this like a tiny bit different than Erickson,
because I think Erickson looks at it like, hey, Flowers
just had the big game, or you know, like in
that type of range, like Flowers is a guy I
just want rest of season, or that you know, Harrison
was the best value. I buy that Flowers is the
guy of this list. I think the hold is Marvin Harrison,
and I agree DJ Moore is the guy I'm off of.
(22:34):
If something, If you guys see in the trade deadline pass,
we're doing this right before and he got traded somewhere,
maybe that would get me a little bit more excited
those rumors of like the Steelers and stuff. But I
think Flowers is the clear cut trust guy here. Marvin
Harrison is the epitome of boom er bust, and DJ
Moore is just unfortunately been bust.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
What other trio here, Deontay Johnson who I just mentioned,
Calvin Ridley and the aforemactually Khalil Shakir Welsh. We'll start
with you on this. Deontay Johnson, Calvin Ridley, Khalil Shakir.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I think I would buy Calvin Ridley with Mason Rudolph
making this offense so much better, but at least he's
like they're able to throw the ball and get volume.
I would hold on Khalil Shakir, even though I was
selling him in that other instance. I just don't have
interest in Deontay Johnson. This is a I think it's
an awful destination. Maybe he has like one really cool game,
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but offense, it doesn't pass at heavy volume. That already
has a Flowers who I bought. They've got a couple
tight ends. Bateman has been good. No thanks. I'm a
big old sell on Deontay Ericson.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
I'm gonna hold Deontay because I think that this is
not the time to sell after he basically didn't play again.
We saw DeAndre Hopkins have a monster game after really
not doing that much in his first game, So I
think that you're selling too low on Deontay. I think
you should at least give it another week, especially against
the Bengals this week. So I'm going to hold Deontay
by Khalil Shakir, who's been just this uber efficient number
one receiver for the Bills. Cooper and Coleman are both
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banged up, so we don't know what those injuries are
going to up being, but Shakira has been Josh Allen's guy.
And to your point about the Seahawks throwing a lot
since the bye week, Buffalo Bills up in pass trade
over expectation. They are throwing a lot more than they
were or excusing up before the bye week, but the
last couple of weeks, since they acquired a Marik Cooper, essentially,
they've been throwing a lot more. So I'm optimistic about
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this Bill's passing game rest of the season. So I
want to buy Shakir, and I guess Calvin Ridley, I
don't think that he's a I don't think he's a
must sell because they have a good schedule, but there's
always a chance that they decided to just go back
to a lot of US and that could be horrible.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
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Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast. I'm
RYD Warmley, joining this Tuesday morning by Andrew Rickson and
by Chris Welsh. Fellows, we are diving into the wide
receivers here. Some guys to buy, some guys to sell.
You can buy hi, buy low, sell high, selo. You
know how the show's go show goes at this point,
it's wide receiver trade show, Welsh, What wide receiver are
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you buying right.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Now, Atlanta Falcons Darnell Mooney, whether it is buying at
a high buying at a median value. I want to
buy Darnell Mooney. That's what I am into right now
this week, this past week, Week nine, number one in
first read percentage according to Fantasy Points, fifty two percent,
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a wild first read percentage, and we had we had
Drake London in that game for a decent period of
time where he is one of the top ten. I
believe he's like ninth or tenth on the season and
overall first read percentage. But while Drake London has dominated
that on this season, Mooney is also inside the top
twenty five of first read percentage at around twenty nine percent.
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He's actually got within point zero one of Nico Collins
first read percentage. Why do I care about that? Because
its first looks, its first looks. In this passing offense.
He's had five or more targets in every single game
but one. He has had eight targets or more in
three of the last five games. On top of it all,
in the Andrew Rickson Playbook of Schedules, third best schedule
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for wide receivers to end out the season. And Drake
London with this hit pointer thing, we don't know if
there's going to be miss time. Darnell Mooney has just
been a fantasy gym the whole just an easy, underplayed
fantasy gym in this passing offense. We would have thought
the number two read in the Atlanta Falcons offense coming
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into this year was going to be Kyle Pitts. Eh,
it's incorrect. It's Darnell Mooney. And if London is to
miss time, Mooney will one hundred percent just jump into
that role because he's already one of those just high
first read guys, so he can stretch the field deep.
He's getting those first looks, get him into the red
zone looks. That's been a heavy thing that Drake London
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has had. I just think all signs are pointing and
I'm just not sure that the cost is going to
cost of a top to top twenty four wide receiver.
So by that, I really think Darnall Mooney has a
chance to just continue running on as a top twenty
four wide out. So I want to go and buy
Darnall Mooney for rest of season.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
To that point, Welsh, he's not in the top twenty
four in ECR, in half EPR amongst wide receivers. He's
wide receiver twenty nine rest of season. That might go
up a little bit during this week as people, you know,
kind of further react to the Drake London injury. But
Eric Sin, I'm curious, do you think that the London
injury is a good thing for Moodey and that he'll
get more targets or is it a bad thing and
that he'll now get more of defensive attention, you know
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from top cornerbacks going up against the Falcons.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I mean, I don't really think so. I think it's volume.
I think it's a volume play here. Drake London operates
a different part of the field. Again, if the offense
is worse, then it's not good for Mooney. But where
does Mooney scores touchdowns from all over the field from
their own twenty yard line because he generates big plays.
So I wouldn't be concerned about Moon. I think that
you just want volume, and I think that Mooney's going
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to deliver and he's a guy that has a thousand
yard season on his resume. Drack London doesn't as crazy
as that sounds to say, but like Mooney was, again,
I was wrong about London. I wasn't high enough on
him in draft season, but I loved Mooney as a
wide receiver. Sixty nine ADP Troll Firm doesn't ever let
me forget.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I'm just going to say we have to shout out
Terrell because he was all over Darnelle.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, and he always tags me and any time Mooney
does something good, all a sudden, he's like, why is
your sixty nine AIGHTP? I'm like, you know it, brother,
So yeah, I think this is a great play going
after Darnel Mooney because I think probably wide receiver twenty nine.
I mean based on his receiving art He's top twenty
and receiving arts per game this year, the entire season
so I know it's inflated by a couple big games
against the Bucks, but still like he's producing and I
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don't see a reason why he won't produce favorable schedule
when they banged up good job Welsh.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, he's another guy if you look at kind of
the finish his week tweak and I don't think you
said this already Ericson, but he you know, he's has
one wide receiver two finished on the season. He has
one wide receiver three finishing the season, which by the way,
is the very back end of wide receiver three was
wide receiver thirty six. Everything else is he's either outside
the top thirty six or he's inside the top ten
so far this season. So now two of those inside
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the top ten were in the last two weeks, so
now we get even more volume for him. I do
agree with the call as well. I wanted to kind
of pose the question on Drake London, but ultimately I agree,
like this is somebody that I want to be investing in.
And again I said it already. The costs like wide receiver
twenty nine, that's too low for him. So I'd be
really happy to go after a guy like Mooney seems
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like a strong buy. You can use the trade Analyzer
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tell you that trading for Darnown Moon is a smart
call ericson what ride receiver are you.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Buying, I'm going for the post hype sleeper Josh Downs,
who did not deliver as the Colts offense did not
deliver entirely with Joe Flakau on Sunday Football against Minnesota Vikings.
So shout out to Patis Morris for not being part
of the Downs. Let's pump him up as high as
we can in the ranking. So that's why fitzpranks higher
than me in the rankings competition. But that doesn't mean
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I'm out on Josh Downs rest of the season because
despite a pretty lackluster performance, still hyper targeted thirty three
percent target share, forty five percent target rate per route run.
I don't think Michael Payman is healthy. This guy has
two catches in the last two games despite seeing ten targets.
I think that he's banged up. I don't know when
he's going to be healthy, and that means Josh Downs
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is just going to continue to see targets because you
know who's the quarterback rest of season, Joe Flacco. That's
gonna be the guy. So I'm just chasing volume here
with Josh Downs. Again, the Vikings was a tough matchup.
Again on paper, the Vikings are a team that's given
up a lot of points of receivers, but it's because
teams have railed and have gotten a lot of points
in garbage time to get Half of those numbers are
probably from that one Packers game where Jordan Love was
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thrown it all across the yard in the second half.
So again, it's a good defense and they're not gonna
play the Vikings defense every single week. So I don't
love the Colts schedule rest of the season. I can't
believe I've become the schedule guys, the schedule guy to
you people. So I don't love that necessarily, but I'm
gonna keep bringing it to the table. I guess I
might as well embrace it. So don't love the schedule
rest season, but I think the volume is there for
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Downs with Pittman banged up and with Flacco at quarterbacks,
so after he was really hyped up last week didn't deliver.
I think people are gonna be I was wrong about Downs.
I think this is an opportunity to buy.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I think that the schedule is a good thing to
mention for him specifically though, because like for example, this
past week, I was all in, not all in, but
I liked Downs this week. The reason that Fits's kind
of argument against them works for me is that this
is not a good matchup for Joe Flacco facing this
pass rush in Minnesota. So I think looking at the defense,
when you have a quarterback who is limited, and by
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the way, whether it's Anthony Richardson or Joe Flats, these
are limited you know options for the Colts right now.
It will impact how Josh Downs's numbers look on a
week to week basis. I still definitely obviously prefer him
with Flacco, but if he goes up against a team
that has a ferocious pass rush, I'm probably gonna be
a lot more hesitant to be interested in really anybody
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in any of the pass catchers in this offense. So
I think it's a legitimate thing to keep an eye
on Welsh. What are you doing with Downs?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah? I actually almost picked this one as well, just because,
like the pass rush is actually a super important thing
because that offensive line. I couldn't believe it when I
didn't watch the entirety of the game, But like towards
the end, I'm like check in to see how Josh
Downs is doing. Every single play, every single rusher was
in Joe Flacco's face and he clearly is not gonna
be able to get off a good ball. The positive though,
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is when he did, and when he can't, it does
go to Josh Downs. He is the safety net. So yeah,
I mean there's a lot of victory lapping about, like, oh,
we're gonna have been jentthey Richardson for Flacco? How about me now?
And it's like, okay, well, you know, I don't. I
still don't really think that argument plays because you know,
that same energy over to the bad weeks of Anthony Richardson,
All of this just still comes back to Josh Dowins
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Pittman with the struggle. Josh Downs still got whatever that
their version of higher volume was. And we do know
in general, if you're not going up against like well said,
a ferocious pass rush. They're gonna have a little bit
more time and you're gonna see probably double digit targets
for Josh Dowens. So it's a post hype trade that
I think makes a ton of sense. You're probably gonna
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get some value on it with people being like hands up,
oh the coult stink everything is a disaster. I think
this is actually like a really sharp play hashtag too
sharp for ericson.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Well, let's go to the guys. We're selling. What wide
receiver do you want to sell right now?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
So I'm gonna sell this guy off of a big week,
and I don't think Erickson's gonna I feel like Erickson's
gonna push back on me against this one. I'm gonna
go Jaden Reid with the Green Bay Packers. And you know,
when you look at the game log, obviously the weeks
with Malik Willis he completely fell apart. You get Jordan
Love back five catches, one hundred and thirteen yards like
big plays. That's that's fantastic. Though. One of the things
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I'll point out about this game, even though Love was back,
he ended up having like an eighteen I think it
was eighteen percent first read percentage, which is bad twenty
one percent on the year. So as far as like
what first looks are going to, they really haven't been
going to Jayden Reid, And that kind of leads to
he has ate so much this season on really big plays.
(09:29):
So I don't want to discount that to say like
he's not going to continue making big plays. Here's what
hurts the big plays. Shall we do it again? Friends? Yes,
strength of schedule fifth worst of all wide receivers to
end out the season as far as strength of schedule goes.
So you got tougher matchups, tougher to make big plays.
Some of those big games. He had one hundred and
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thirty eight yards in game one, he had a seventy
yard play, one hundred and thirty nine yards. In Week four,
had a forty two yard play, seventy eight yards. We five,
had a fifty three yard play in this past week
forty one. So these big plays are you know, obviously
a big portion of his offense. Yet in all of
that he has three touchdowns. He's not being involved in
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the rushing side. They've got four wide receivers that they
keep using. They've got Tucker Kraft, and you have a
quarterback who health is in question for the rest of
the season. If he were a higher volume play, I
would feel better. He's not. He is a big play
guy that obviously is explosive, But I think this is
an opportunity to move off of what might be some
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big ups and downs. You know, we've talked about this
with other wideouts. The last I mean it's I guess
it's not fair to say the last three weeks, but
just to go with it, eighty one, fifty six, and
seventeen are his finishes. Obviously two of those were with Malik,
but he has had two top three, top twenty four
wide receiver finishes with Love but also outside of the forty.
So there's there's boom and bust, there's a tough schedule,
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there's a really good performance off of this week to
sell I throw this out. I know it's a no ericson,
but how close are Darnell Mooney and Jaden Reid rest
of season.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
To each other?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Not close, not even, And I disagree. I actually think
rest of season. I think Darnell Mooney and Jaden Reid
are in the same wide receiver pack rest of season
between wide receiver twenty let's call it twenty and twenty five.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
They're seventeen and twenty nine in ECR for the record
the rest of season. Yeah, yeah, rest of season. Ericson
are you surprised that Jaden Reid doesn't have more than
eleven rushing attempts through nine games, especially considering the quarterback
situation has been, you know, largely a not fully healthy
Jordan Love.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I mean that seems like a decent amount. I mean
it's like one a game.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I was kind of expecting maybe two, I like not.
I mean people kind of make the comparison as like
a poor man's debo. Samuel I wasn't expecting like several
a game, but I was. I was expecting like maybe
two or three every game most games. He said. One.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yes, by the way, three over the last four games
when Jordan Love was gone, they went away from that.
They didn't even really try to read. That's actually like
the that forty nine or playbook would be. You know,
when they're running backs are down or there's a stunt
in the offense, Deebo gets a higher percentage of carries
and that didn't happen with j Reed.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Two thirds of his rushing yards in the season came
in weeks one and two, Like the it just hasn't
been that explosive or high volume in that side of
his game from Week three and beyond, So I thought
it was a little lower than I expected.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I mean, what is it compared to other receiver? Like
how many more receivers have more rushing attempts than Reed does?
I don't know what the number is, so I guess
for me, I mean, I'm not that's That's not something
I'm really concerned about. Why is he not getting enough
rushing attempts? I just think that he's a really good player.
And when I look at matchups Week fourteen at the Lions,
he can be a top five receiver in that matchup
Week fifteen at the Seahawks, top five Week sixteen against
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the Saints. I just think that he's I think that
your point about the big plays. I think that's something
we should have a conversation about next year when we're
drafting Jane Reid, as the potential is like second round pick,
maybe that's a reason to fade him kind of after
the big Deebo Samuel year where he had just unsustainable production.
But for this year, Reed is their best player on offense.
So I'm just I'm not going to overthink it.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
You would just love that best player on offense to
get more than five touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Maybe if he didn't score on all his plays, he'd
get more targets, ie touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
He has three touchdowns. What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, and he's doing it on he hasn't even score
that many touchdowns. Committing on the mount of yardgy is
put up. I mean, when you look at just total
yards from scrimmage, I believe that he's inside the top
three among all wide receivers. Like he's right up there
at least the top to your top five. So I look,
I Janeree was my bye last week, so I'm not
going to just turn around and sell him after he
had a big game in the porn rain with a
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quarterback with the injured groin, and I'm watching him make
plays after plays and I'm like, this guy's just so good.
So that's again, I don't think that your logic is
wrong wel selling off the big plays. But I just
want to ride the wave with Jayden Reeda. I think
that he's been this good. I think that this is
a good conversation to revisit, though in draft season, depending
on where Jayden Reid ends up, where where he does
an ADP, because I think they might be overvalued.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Ericson's like Alicia Silverstone and clueless roll in with the homies.
I looked at difference.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I looked, I've seen clueless.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Okay, Eric, Eric clueless.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
You are clueless of that clue. It's a kind of
a class. It's very nineties, it's very of its time.
I did. I did pull it up. By the way,
so Jane Reid that eleven rushing tempts. It is the
second most for any wide receiver this season. Devo has
more than twice as many.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I think our expectation, like you were, I mean, he's
not He's not Debo.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
He's a very like people gets like running back carries
like sure.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
And I'm not saying he is deep, but I'm just saying,
particularly because Jordan Love has been so limited, I expected
them to use read a bit more in this way.
And again he hasn't had even multiple carries in a
game since Week five, So like it's been trending in
the in the wrong direction in terms of that volume.
So that's I'm not saying he should have as many
as Debo and again second most of the NFL amongst
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wide receivers. Like, that's a very legitimate counter by you.
I just thought it was gonna be a little bit more. Again,
I thought it was gonna be like two or three
a game when love is hurt, not zero or one
a game.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
You also have one other concern is you have to
worry if Romeo Dobbs starts crying again and takes his
ball and goes home, then like the team might have
to give him more touches. And that's a concern that
takes away from Jayden Reeve. When Romeo Dobbs gets upset.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Eric soon what wide receiver are you selling? And spoiler alert,
it's somebody you've listened here before.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
No, somebody listened last week. He recently Yes, Jack Smith
and Jigba so again obviously massive game last week. So
did not feel great about the take last week. But
sometimes this happens where never just earlier, you're a week
you're a week too early, Right, I was a week
too early saying that this is the end of JSN.
(15:57):
You got to sell him. So that's that's an l
on my part. But I'm going to trust the process
here because you have a player coming off a career
game one hundred eighty yards, two touchdowns. This is the
process you want to sell receivers off peak performances. Let's
go back to Week two, who had a massive game
against the Rams, Marvin Harrison Junior. If you had probably
sold high at that point, you probably would have been
(16:18):
happy with the result in the return that you got
on him. So for Jaysen, I'm just looking at the
specific matchup what he did against the Los Angeles Rams,
and DK metcalf and No. A fan were both inactive.
I did think that d K Mechap was going to
come back when I was talking about Jason as a cell. Again,
not trying to say that I was right. I was
wrong about selling him last week. But d K Mechev
is going to come back after the bye week because
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Seattle is on a bye week this week. And when
you look at what jsn and how he scored all
his points essentially against the Los Angeles Rams, it was
all downfield targets as a deep threat, which he has
not been used at whatsoever this season. His average up
of target was over twenty yards. He hasn't had a
game this year besides last week against the Rams, where
his average up the target was more than eleven yards.
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So without dk me X, he filled that void against
a beatable Rams defense that's bad against the deep ball.
I just don't think that's his role every single week.
I think that he's a guy that needs volume. Usually
he doesn't usually win with efficiency winning downfield. So for
those reasons, I just think that this is an unsustainable
type of boom game from Jasn. Again, listen back to
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last week. I didn't never say Jasn was like a
bad player. I just thought that maybe we hadn't seen
the ceiling. Clearly, that was wrong because we saw the
ceiling game against the Rams. But we've seen ceiling games
against the Rams from a lot of receivers Jamison Williams,
Marvin Harrison, Junior, Jackson Smith and Jigba, and a lot
of these guys have been up and down after those
blow up games against the Los Angeles Rams. So given that,
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I don't think that the schedule's great for Seattle rest
of season. They're on a bye week this week, number
thirty second right quarterback schedule, I think that you'll never
get more than you can for JSN right now, and
I just feel so bad that I listened to Cell
last week because I would have felt so much more
confident about selling him this week, because you could have
got so much more. So I apologize if you sold
him already, but I still think it's the right move
moved to make by selling high on JSM.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
You don't think the Cats like kind of out of
the bag with him, Like, I mean, he's only twenty
two second year receiver Like this is sometimes sometimes it
doesn't happen in the back half of you know, season one.
It takes till season two for these young receivers to
break out. You don't think this is like you know,
the Seahawks are going to look at this and say
we I mean, he could have had over two hundred
yards if it wasn't for the plays called back do
the penalties. I mean, he was so utterly dominant in
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this game that it's hard for me to think that
that the Seahawks are going to look at this and say, yeah,
we're fine, like going getting away from him again.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Do you think that he'll take over as the number
one deep threat in this offense? If you do, then
keep him. But I don't think that's the case because
Metcalf wasn't playing. That's always been Metcalf's role as the
air yards guy in this offense. So that's my concern
that his role is going to go back to primary
underneath target.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Where do you think he's gonna.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Where do you think he's gonna watch? So right now
he's wide receiver thirty five in rest of season rankings,
and again sometimes those like update throughout the week coming
off of a big performance on a Sunday, it is
only Tuesday morning. Still where do you think he winds up?
And like what he think is the right range for him?
Because to me, I think wide receiver thirty five is
currently too low.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Right because he's coming off a big game. But where
was he last week? Wide receiver?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
But I would expect moving forward, I think he will
be a better than wide receiver thirty five.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Do you think that he should be ranked the rest
of the season? I had a close care.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
They're like too a part in e cr By the
way she carries two spots behind him right now it
goes Jsid lad mccakay, Khalil Shakir, and that would be
a really interesting.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
But a bunch of a bunch of slot receivers, and
it's like, who just have a big game? Right?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
It prompt you buyseller? Whold trio? J said Lad mccakay,
Khalil Shakir ericson.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I mean, I'm probably gonna hold Shakir. I mean again,
Jay said the guy who get the most for it,
Just like then two weeks ago, mcaukee was the because
he had two touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
So let me refree it that who's the type of
name you would want to sell him for? What would
be a big enough return that you're excited about her return?
Speaker 3 (19:49):
I would I'd rather have Darnel Mooney. Okay, Donald Mooney?
Who was I talking about before? Jane Reid?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Boom, uh, well what do you think about JSN?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, the masochist in me wants Jayden Reid to go
for two hundred and twenty yards this week so we
can put him back on the list. I want to
keep doing that. I'm on both sides of this, like
I kind of agree, like when DK Metcalf comes back,
he's the big deep threat option, he's the number one
wide receiver. But there's a little part of me that
is like, I don't think the change that can destroy
the value of JSN I think them getting to use
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him in those higher rules over these last couple of weeks,
it's a good thing, and it's something that that offense
and Gino might feel more comfortable with, and he gets
more of a target share. He was already being the
guy that would go over Tyler Lockett, but then you
get three guys in the offense. I think a sharp
play is just like if you can trade json high,
do it. I don't think I'm as like you got
to get out from JSN, maybe as ericson or maybe
(20:44):
it's just coming off that way. I think, like what
that that trio you had, I think I might have
bought Lad held js in and sold Khalil shak Shakier
has been going, but he also have you know Coleman,
You've got Amari Cooper, Mark Cooper wasn't active. Coleman got hurt.
Like there's a lot of guys in that offense as well.
The only difference is is like the Seahawks are one
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of the highest passing teams in the NFL, so that
leads more potential volume for JSN. Unfortunately, like for him
to be massively impactful, he does need like ten targets
a game. So I'm not as like get out from
but I think it's hard to deny if someone saw
this performance, sees, you know, young wide receiver in this
big pass heavy offense and is willing to sell. Like
(21:26):
you said in the darn Olay take Darnell Mooney as well,
I think there is a good opportunity that like he
has peaked and it's only going to kind of come
down for the rest of the year.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
All right, Erickson has got to get rolland Harris, we'll
speed through our biicellar Hold Receiver edition. Marvin Harrison Junior,
DJ Moore is a Flowers again, Ericson. That's Harrison, Moore
and Flowers. Who are you buying? Who are you selling?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Who are you holding buying? Marvin Harrison Junior for the
playoff schedule, that's very very good. I'm gonna hold day
Flowers because he's on the Ravens and they just scores
more points than any other team, and I'm just gonna
I just don't want Bears, So I'm gonna sell DJ Moore,
I just don't want Bears.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Welsh, what do you think? And by the way, the
reason that include to Flowers because I know he's been
really good. Is just the thought that you know, another
weekend Deontay Johnson might get used some more. So, you know,
I don't know if there's any concern there or not.
That's why I wanted to throw him in there.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I mentally do this like a tiny bit different than Erickson,
because I think Erickson looks at it like, hey, Flowers
just had the big game, or you know, like in
that type of range, like Flowers is a guy I
just want rest of season, or that you know, Harrison
was the best value. I buy that Flowers is the
guy of this list. I think the hold is Marvin Harrison,
and I agree DJ Moore is the guy I'm off of.
(22:34):
If something, If you guys see in the trade deadline pass,
we're doing this right before and he got traded somewhere,
maybe that would get me a little bit more excited
those rumors of like the Steelers and stuff. But I
think Flowers is the clear cut trust guy here. Marvin
Harrison is the epitome of boom er bust, and DJ
Moore is just unfortunately been bust.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
What other trio here, Deontay Johnson who I just mentioned,
Calvin Ridley and the aforemactually Khalil Shakir Welsh. We'll start
with you on this. Deontay Johnson, Calvin Ridley, Khalil Shakir.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I think I would buy Calvin Ridley with Mason Rudolph
making this offense so much better, but at least he's
like they're able to throw the ball and get volume.
I would hold on Khalil Shakir, even though I was
selling him in that other instance. I just don't have
interest in Deontay Johnson. This is a I think it's
an awful destination. Maybe he has like one really cool game,
(23:23):
but offense, it doesn't pass at heavy volume. That already
has a Flowers who I bought. They've got a couple
tight ends. Bateman has been good. No thanks. I'm a
big old sell on Deontay Ericson.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
I'm gonna hold Deontay because I think that this is
not the time to sell after he basically didn't play again.
We saw DeAndre Hopkins have a monster game after really
not doing that much in his first game, So I
think that you're selling too low on Deontay. I think
you should at least give it another week, especially against
the Bengals this week. So I'm going to hold Deontay
by Khalil Shakir, who's been just this uber efficient number
one receiver for the Bills. Cooper and Coleman are both
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banged up, so we don't know what those injuries are
going to up being, but Shakira has been Josh Allen's guy.
And to your point about the Seahawks throwing a lot
since the bye week, Buffalo Bills up in pass trade
over expectation. They are throwing a lot more than they
were or excusing up before the bye week, but the
last couple of weeks, since they acquired a Marik Cooper, essentially,
they've been throwing a lot more. So I'm optimistic about
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this Bill's passing game rest of the season. So I
want to buy Shakir, and I guess Calvin Ridley, I
don't think that he's a I don't think he's a
must sell because they have a good schedule, but there's
always a chance that they decided to just go back
to a lot of US and that could be horrible.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
So yeah, we'll wrap up on that. Don't forget about
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trades this week. In week ten for Eric con and
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