Fantasy Football BUSTS To Avoid | Don’t Draft These Players (Ep. 1674) - FantasyPros - Fantasy Football Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in everybody to Fantasy pros. This is time to
talk about the busts. This is me Joey pajop Zapia,
That of course is my Patty Cakes Pat fitz Morris,
and we're gonna talk about players that we're avoiding for
different reasons. We're gonna talk about some guys going early
in drafts, in those middle rounds and even later in
the maybe one hundred period where we just don't like
the player. We think there's better uses of your draft capitals.

(00:23):
So Pat and are gonna break those names down for you.
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let's start with an early round, first maybe even second
round guy that you're avoiding in in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
And why, oh Joe, it's Breece Hall. And like I
like him. He's talented, he catches passes, he's a good player.
But new Jets head coach Aaron Glenn has been saying
all off season that he wants to use multiple backs,
not just too It sounds like he wants to use
Breece Hall, Braylon Allen, Isaiah Davis. And then preseason games

(01:22):
come and like Aaron Glenn is good to his word.
Like I think it was the second preseason game for
the Jets, Justin Field's played ten snaps. Of those ten snaps,
Brece Hall played five, Isaiah Davis played three, Braylon Allen
played two. Like I know some folks are going to
say that it's just preseason, but like preseason usage, these

(01:43):
are coaches establishing their usage patterns that they are going
to stick to in the regular season. And like a
committee back on a Jets offense that is not going
to be one of the higher scoring offenses in the league,
like I'm just out on Breece Hall at a high
end RB two price, and I know some people are
going to look at that and say, well, you're being
drafted as an RB one not so long ago. I'll

(02:06):
take him as a high end RB two. Unfortunately, I
think we might be looking at like low end RB
two high end RB three production from Brisol this year,
especially when you.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Can get the other part of that committee at player
ninety eight. Overall, I'm looking at the real time ADP
for Braylan Allen, and to me, that's the easier shot,
that's the cheap investment. And who knows how things work
out here, how that time sure ends up working for me.
I'm gonna push this ADP even further. The real time
ADP of the player going seventh overall, Yeah, that's right, seventh,
And I'm not touching him there. And the reason why

(02:37):
is I don't have to. It's Christian McCaffrey. And I
know people are gonna.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Say, but he's healthy. Well, if he's so damn.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Healthy, why didn't he play any preseason games. If he's
so damn healthy, why are we trading for another running back?
If he's so damn healthy, then why have I seen
him miss big chunks of seasons in.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
The last few years.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
And I'm not saying Christian mccafrey isn't one of the
great boom or bus risk reward players. He is, But
why do I have to do that with the seventh player?
Why do I have to do that when there's guys
around there justin Jefferson, Ceedee Lamb, Dereck, Henry amm Ross,
Saint Brown, who are all steady as she goes right,
his rain showing up every season. I just don't feel

(03:13):
the need to do this and to start my fantasy
team this way. And I think when you look back
pat at the early ADP, we go back to July
of Christian McCaffrey and Best Ball, he was going around
the fourteenth player all overall, and I thought, cool, that's
an interesting discount where I'm in on Christian McCaffrey. There
now he is the seventh player going.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Off the board.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
That to me is a bridge too far, and I'm
just not going there. I'm not going to put that
sort of voodoo on my teams. I understand how good
he could be, he could be the number one player overall,
but he could also be an injury risk that costs
you winning games on a weekly basis, and.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
I just can't put myself in a hole to start.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Had he been playing in preseason, maybe I feel better
about that, but I just don't. And I know they
want to put him in bubble rap, but it's football. Eventually,
you got to break open that bubble rap and guy's
got to play. Let's continue on, Pat, and let's let's
talk a little bit more about some of the other
busts potentially, or guys who might even be traps in
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Premium to get started today. Pat, give me a guy
in the mid round that you think is a trap.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
It's Mark Andrews, who I think has been a pretty
solid value at tight end in recent years. But I
don't want to chase the eleven touchdowns he scored last season.
I just never want to bet on the repetition of
a big TV season. And like, if you go past
the touchdowns, things were kind of bleak for Mark Andrews
last year. His three point two catches and thirty nine

(04:57):
point six yards per game were his worst numbers his
rookie year in twenty eighteen. And Mark Andrews did not
eclipse seventy receiving yards in a single game last season,
and he only got to sixty yards in four games
last year. And like people were dropping Mark Andrews early
last year, and then we got this touchdown avalanche and

(05:20):
maybe he was still recovering from the season ending injury
he had in twenty twenty three, and then there was
that car accident last August. But I feel like we
should heed the drop off in catches and yardage and
just kind of like steer away from a touchdown dependent profile.
Like I don't expect Lamar Jackson to have forty one

(05:40):
touchdown passes again this season. He had been at twenty
four the year before. I think he probably finishes in
the low thirties. But that's a haircut of about ten touchdowns,
and I think some of those are coming off Mark
Andrews total. So I just I would rather have Tucker
Kraft a full round later or Tyler Warren a round
and a half later. Just don't think Mark Andrews is

(06:02):
a very good value right now.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
I haven't had a haircut in twenty years. If you
want more Mark Andrews conversation, go watch our video. We
just did Draft court, so Debro was on the pro
Mark Andrews FITZI, of course obviously on the anti Mark Andrews.
How did the jury decide? Go watch on our YouTube channel.
It's right there under the live video section all the
fantasy draft courts, fun times and me in a wig

(06:25):
not cut. It's just right there. The wig is in
full bloom for you, all right. The guy in the
middle rounds that I think is a trap this year
is Travis Hunter. And I think I'm not the only
one who perceives this as well, because I've seen his
ADP start to fall a little bit.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
He's going as wide receiver.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Thirty one, the seventieth player overall right now, some between
seventy seventy two and the real time ADP and again
it's more about the player investment and the other guy's
going in that similar range. Guys like Ricky Piersoll going
in that range, who I like a ton more. Calvin Ridley,
who's coming off a couple thousand yard seasons right now,
He's got a much better quarterback. So if I'm looking

(06:59):
for receiver, I just don't know if the young Travis
Hunter is the way I want to go. I don't
understand necessarily how the impact is going to be with
him playing some on the defensive side as well, what
the wear and tear and that takes its toll potentially
over the season. This is not college football, this is
the NFL. Is a whole different level of the game.
And Travis Hunter is a great kid, he's a great story,
he's a great talent. But at the same time, I

(07:20):
just don't feel like he's a great fantasy investment. He's
not the number one on his team either. To BTJ
is still the alpha dog in a big way in
that offense. So for me, Travis Hunter again, Agbuka Pearsall,
Matthew Golden, all of those guys in that similar range,
I find do all have wide receiver one potential on
their team even if something happened to Mike Evans like Buka,

(07:41):
I think is step In. I think he's that talented.
Just don't know if Travis Hunter is there. And some
of the route running that I've seen from him so
far in preseason and some of the tape has not
been the best in that transition to the NFL. So
that's the guy that I'm passing on.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
FITZI.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Let's go a little bit deeper and let's talk about
some of the guys in the late rounds. Sometimes players
are sitting there that we're either familiar with or you've
heard good buzz about, but maybe they're not necessarily the
best investment.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Who fits that bill for you?

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Josh Downs and I have discovered a disease within the
fantasy football playing community. It's called Jamison Crowder syndrome, and
it is the addiction to small, jitterbug slot receiver types.
And there is a real weakness among some people for

(08:30):
players of that ilk and I think Josh Downs is
a favorite of those people right now, and I just
I don't get it. I kind of didn't like his
profile even before this hamstring injury that has sidelined him
the last few weeks, and that he is potentially going
to be slowed by early in the season, maybe at
risk of aggravating the Colts are likely to have mediocre

(08:54):
quarterbacking this season. And even though I think people think
Daniel Jones is best case scenario for the pass catchers
in Indianapolis, Like, if you are pinning your hopes on
Daniel Jones as a reason to draft a player, I
think that is fundamentally flawed. Mainly I think Joe, like
I think Tyler Warren is going to be a big

(09:14):
problem for Josh Downs as far as his target out
because Tyler Warren, I think is gonna get a lot
of short area and intermediate range targets because he is
a monster after the catch, and like I think he's
gonna put a dance in Josh Downs target total. Also,
there's just no touchdown potential with Josh Downs. Seven touchdowns

(09:36):
and thirty one career games, Like, he's not going to
score touchdowns for you. So I just I think there
are a lot of headwinds here with Josh Downs. The injury,
the presence of Tyler Warren, the lack of touchdowns, the
quarterback situation. So avoid Jamison Crowder syndrome and don't draft
Josh Downs.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
All right for me, the last guy I'm going to
talk about that I'm going to avoid. And I know
some of you like to live in the past and
the member berries and I remember, I remember, I remember
when Cooper Cup was good. It was glorious, fantastic league
winning Cooper Cup in twenty twenty one. But unfortunately we
can't keep chasing that. He played nine games in twenty
twenty two. In twenty twenty three, he played twelve. In

(10:15):
twenty twenty four, he played twelve. Now, look, I understand that.
You know, once upon a time he was great at
fantasy football. But now he's moving from a Sean McVay
offense to a Seattle Seahawks offense not run by Matthew
Stafford anymore.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Okay, it's run by Sam Darnold.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
And I know Sam Donald was good last year with
the Vikings, but let's not forget everything that was around
him for success. And Kevin O'Connell is a chip off
of that Sean McVay block. Now that's not the case
in Seattle. Seattle offensive line has giant question marks. The
quarterback players, giant question marks. It's JSN and Ken Walker,
maybe a little Charbonney here and there, but I just

(10:52):
can't see investing in Cooper Cup and didn't catch a
ball in the preseason, didn't really show out at all.
I know it's small sample size, but you know, this
season doesn't mean anything except for the guys that it
means everything for. And I want to see guys out there,
especially with new teams, how they're gelling with their new
quarterbacks and their new offense. And small sample size or not,
there's no sample size to go off here with Cooper Cup.

(11:13):
There's nothing in the trajectory that says, all of a sudden,
now he's going to be healthy and great again and
come back. It just seems like Cooper Cup is one
of these players that had a glorious run for a
couple of years and now unfortunately we're on the back
end of that and it's unfortunate. But once again, when
you're trying to look at the ADP in real time,
he is the one hundred and fourth player to the

(11:34):
one hundred and thirteenth player going off the board, depending
on the trends of what's happening right now. I think
Cam Skataboo, I think Drake May. I think some other
guys in that range are just far more interesting. Heck,
maybe even a shot now at Austin Eckler in that
range might have more upside and fantasy in their situations
than Cooper Cup will. So for me, I'm going to

(11:55):
be out on Cooper Cup. These are some names that
we are out on for a myriad of reasons. But
who are you out on in twenty twenty five? Drop
your comments below? Who are you absolutely not drafting? We
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