July 15, 2025 • 15 mins
Join Joe Pisapia, Pat Fitzmaurice, and Terrell Furman Jr. as they highlight six deep sleepers that are going to help you win your fantasy football leagues in 2025!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome into everybody to Fantasy Pros. This is the Fantasy
Football podcast. That's me Joey p Joe Pizapia, and today
we're gonna take a quick look at some breakouts, some
guys that are gonna be sleepers who could blow up
in twenty twenty five. These are not the sexiest names
on the board necessarily, but they are names that could
help you win a fantasy league. And I've got two
other names that can help you win as well, Terrell
(00:22):
Furman Junior, my boy from Betting Pros, and also my
Patty Cakes Pat fitz Morris. The boys have compiled the
list here to help you find some of those deeper
stashes in your fantasy drafts that are upcoming in just
the weeks ahead. Before we get to those names, don't
forget use the cheat sheeet creator and all the tools
here along with us on the podcast to help you
(00:43):
crush all of your competition. Because the cheat cheet creator
is here for you, and I'll tell you what fantasypros
dot Com slash sheet you can customize your board and
make sure that you're getting all of the names. You
can pick your favorite experts. You could do it all
and do a hybrid of all those things for sleepers, breakouts,
and more. Sinker leagues for free, customize your rankings, use
(01:03):
all the tools over Fantasy Pros. Download the Fantasy Football
Draft Wizard app today at fantasypros dot com. S Last Sheet,
that's the place to go to make your customized draft sheet.
All right, pow Fitzmorris, let's start with you here. We're
gonna start with I can't believe it. The packer guy
is starting with a Chicago Bear. But let's start with
a guy in that backfield that you think people should
pay attention.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
To, Roshan Johnson.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
And why, yes, Joe, I am interested in running back
who averaged two point seven yards per carry last season.
I'm giving a Rochean a mulligan. For twenty twenty four,
Chicago's offensive line was a mass, especially inside, which hurts
a running back like Rochan who conducts a lot of
his business between the tackles. The Bears ranked thirty first
in the run blocking metric adjusted lineyards only the Dolphins
(01:46):
were worse. Rochean averaged one point five yards before contact
per carry, which ranked outside the top one hundred among
running backs. But the Bears have pretty much fixed the
interior of their offensive line. They signed Joe Thuni, Chris Dloman,
and Jonah Jackson. That's a pretty impressive overhaul. And what
really has me most interested in Rochan though, is the
(02:08):
possibility that he becomes the discount David Montgomery in Ben
Johnson's offense. Montgomery has twenty five rushing touchdowns in twenty
eight regular season games over the last two years. Rochean's
a big dude, two hundred and twenty five pounds. That's
twenty pounds heavier than DeAndre Swift. There's a good chance
Rochan is the Bears goal line back this year. And
(02:29):
Rochan isn't just a one trick ponies pretty good pass
catcher at thirty four catches as a rookie. He's a
good enough athlete that he made Bruce Feldman's twenty twenty
two Freaks list back when Rochan was playing behind Bijon
Robinson at Texas, he was right behind then Oregon cornerback
Christian Gonzalez on the list. So Rochan actually enrolled at
(02:50):
Texas as a dual threat quarterback. So, and let's look
at Chicago's other running backs. DeAndre Swift dead last in
the NFL in rushing yards overexpected per care last season,
he was underwater at negative zero point six to nine
yards per carry over expected. Then there's rookie seventh rounder
Kamanan guy. I know you like him, Joe, I like
him too, but the profile prospect is a little sauce.
(03:13):
I mean, he's an undersized running back who doesn't catch passes,
and he didn't go until the final round of the draft.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
So Roshan is a pretty compelling deep sleep.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I don't disagree. I like to pay attention when new
coaches come in and start to pick their own guys.
And Monan guy to me, it feels like it could
be the Montgomery goal line back in this offense, which
could be huge. Now, look, I don't love Deandro Swift,
so I think there's room for Roshan and Menan guy,
all of our guys basically to eat there in that
Chicago backfield. I want to take a trip to Denver
(03:42):
on the plane with Terrell and talk about our next guy. Here.
It's a wide receiver on the Broncos that Derell thinks
could have a breakout season.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
What is the name to Oh, yeah, Marvin Mims Junior.
I think it's going to be a year because I
think the Broncos offense is going to be way better
all the way around. This is year two with a rookie,
first year QB and the same head coach, and a
lot of first year QB's second year qbs can't say
they're going into that second third year with the same
(04:10):
head coach. And here he is. This is Sean Payton's guy,
and he's gonna coddle him. I said it all last
season and this didn't change, Joe. You thought that just
because we're in a new season has changed.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
No, he is.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Coddling little old bow Dix like a baby and giving
him everything he needs. And what he gave him at
the end of the last season was Marvin Mimmes Marvin
Mims Week eleven on wide receiver twenty three in fantasy,
and I think, yes, he had a lot of touchdowns
in that stretch. We can't sit here and say that
we can predict touchdowns all the time, but he has
the target share. He saw target on thirty percent of
(04:43):
his routes run at that point in time, and I
think it can only get better with another year in
the offense. And I know Pat Bryan is out there.
All the Pats, they're getting on my nerves.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Now. I know that Pat Bryan is out there.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
I know Pat Bryan's out there, but he's still gonna
be a first year wide receiver. And regardless, it takes
time to escalate. It takes time to get those guys
comfortable in the system. So I think Marvin Mims is
going to be way better than wide receiver forty nine
A fifty nine.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I'm sure Terrell still loves you. You're not a pat
that gets on anybody's nerves. By the way, Marvin Mimms
going around wide receiver fifty seven right now currently, that's
kind of his mo. That's a pretty darn good value
for a guy in that offense could take a real
step forward this season, that's for sure. All right, Pat,
back to you. Let's go with a running back now
in Cleveland that you think might have a bigger opportunity.
(05:30):
Perhaps this is based on some recent events, or maybe
just the fact that we like this talent. We just
didn't love the landing spot at first. But it doesn't
mean that Dylan Sampson can't necessarily still make some progress
in his rookie season.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, it's a little of both factors show. I mean,
going into the NFL Draft this year, I had Dylan
Sampson ranked RB six among the running back prospects.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
He was my favorite guy behind the.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Big five of Ashton Genty, Omarion Hampton, Trevion Henderson, quinch
On Judkins, and Hale Johnson. Sampson has great lateral agility,
really good contact balance for a two hundred pound running back,
and he plays much faster than his four point five
forty time. It's also a really smart, patient runner, and
(06:11):
he catches passes. The problem was that Sampson was a
fourth round pick of the Cleveland Browns, who had already
selected Quinchawn Judkins in the second round and also have
Jerome Ford on the roster. Well, quin Shawn is now
facing some legal difficulties which might give Samson a little
bit of daylight in this crowded backfield. And I know
that during their mini camp, Duce Staley, the Browns running
(06:34):
backs coach, said that he wanted to use Sampson as
a running back and as a receiver who can move
around the formation. So that could vode pretty well for
Samson's usage this year. I just know the Cleveland RBF
situation is pretty ambiguous, but that ambiguity is giving us
a really nice discount on a talented young rookie. So
I'm happy to bet on Samson's talent and grab him
(06:57):
with one of my final draft picks.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Pat just basically in the same round almost. I mean,
Jerome Ford is at RB fifty six, Samson's at RB sixty.
Would you take Samson? This is the younger back here.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Yeah, I mean it's close, but I think there's a
little more upside with Samson.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Like we've seen what Ford is. I don't think.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Ford is good enough to dispatch the young guys in
that backfield, but there's a chance Sampson is so good
that they just say, Okay, we're playing this guy over
Ford and Judkins.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Fair enough. All right, back to you, Trell, and let's
start with another wide receiver on your list. Joshua Palmer
finds himself in a new spot. So why could this
be different for his fantasy value this season?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Oh? Yeah, I mean it's kind of similar to the
Darnell Mooney call I had last year of a proven
wide receiver that may have not had the best situation.
Moving on to a good spot, for them and Joshua Palmer,
while his numbers really don't glare off the page for
you at all, but if you watch the tape and
you look at him, he gets separation. And that's the
(07:57):
thing that they need in Buffalo. They need wide receivers
that can get separation and be open. I don't think
that there's a clear cut Number one. Some people will
say is Shakir. Other people feel like Keyon Coleman is
gonna make a huge step and he's gonna be the
number one in his offense. I'm sitting here saying I
think Palmer's gonna have a role. They didn't bring him
in for nothing. He signed a three year, thirty six
million dollars deal with the Bills. He's in the long
(08:20):
term plans for them. You look at what he does
in terms of separation last year and he was sixteenth
in separation and twelfth in route win rate. So I
think that this is another spot where we have another
veteran wide receiver going to play with a talented quarterback
and he's just gonna be somebody that's like, oh wait,
I can trust this guy. He can get open multiple times.
So Wide receiver sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
That's way too low.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
That's way too low. He doesn't have to go out
here and be a top ten wide receiver for him
to outperform wide receiver sixty nine. So I think Josh
Palmer is gonna have a great year.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Do you have to be a key on Coleman fader
to be interested in Josh Palmer? Yes, okay, because that
feels like that. I'd have to be the case there.
And I know some people still are not sold on
keyon Coleman. It's one of the big debates this offseason.
I know Terrell is not pat. I feel like you
are a key on combing I'm to do And I
(09:12):
think what was so interesting about it? He's heard an
interview with him where you know, they asked him, what
did you do you know last this offseason when you
know you're watching tape. Then he said, I have to
improve on everything. You was just saying none of it
was good enough, which is great that he kind of
recognized that, and you gotta love the kids. Just whether
or not he can improve on it, that's a different question.
As Terrell pointed out too, the ADP for Palmer is
(09:34):
basically free, So free is always a nice investment. All right,
we've got two more names here. We're gonna get to.
One is a wide receiver, going back to the Carolina
Panthers for this one. This kid had some moments last season. Pat,
let's talk about Jalen Coker, because now all of a
sudden it is a very crowded room. Ted McMillan is there.
You have Xavier Lagette, you have Adam Thielend, the ageless
(09:56):
wonder still hovering around. So where does Coker fit into
all of this?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah, I mean there is target competition, Joe, but like
not a lot of high level target competition. It's not
like he has to contend with Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison.
The Panthers obviously expect Teteroa McMillan to play a big
role right away, but then e Xavier Leaguette, who, let's
face it was pretty terrible as a rookie last year.
(10:19):
And Adam Feelin, who's going to be thirty five next month.
I think Moses said Adam Thielen on his fantasy team
back in biblical times. And then Carolina's tight ends don't
really catch many passes. So our colleague Derek Brown was
an early Jalen Cocher enthusiast, and as much as I
hate to admit it, I think Debro might be right
(10:41):
about this.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
In fact, I'm going to use some some of the
same numbers.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Do you please nobody tag him on the YouTube comment.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
We don't want to We don't want to inflate as ego. Yeah,
I'm going to use some of Debro's numbers to make
the case for Coker. There were six games last season
where Coker played at least two thirds of the offensive
snaps for the Panthers and Bryce Young was the Panthers
starting quarterback. Cocher averaged fifty five point seven receiving yards
per game, eleven point four PPR Fantasy points per game,
(11:10):
and one point eight nine yards per route run in
those six contests. So yeah, I mean, I think this
guy is sneaky good and I like him as a
late round flyer. I think there is a path to targets,
maybe multiple pass to targets, since this is not a
I don't know, not a world beating wide receiver corp
that he has to deal with.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, A Cooker's actually a guy that I picked up
in a couple of deeper leagues last year, and I
picked up in Dynasty too because I do like the
player and I think, much to my chagrin as well,
Deebro might have been right about this one. So I'm
fascinated to see Bryce Young take another step forward this
season too, because I think if you were paying attention
last year, it's something we keep driving home on the
betting shows. If you haven't seen those, go subscribe to
Betting Pros. We've been talking about a lot of the
(11:51):
recaps from last year the offseason and you know, prepping
for this year and looking at win totals and whatnot.
That was a team that covered a lot of games.
Defense is still bad, which means the offense still has
to push a football. So a lot of positive things
there potentially for Jalen Coker and for the Panthers good
head coach too. All right, give us one more name here,
and Terrell, I guess you're trying to get in my
good graces here because he chose a Patriot.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yeah I did. And even though I may not be
the highest Drake may guy here on the show, but Hunter, Henry, Hunter, Henry.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Here we go again.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Have y'all played a grand theft auto and you had
CJ and he's like, oh man, here we go again.
That's what I feel with Hunter Henry every single time.
Twenty twenty three, he joins the Patriots. ADP is tight
end thirty. That season he finished in weeks one through
fifteen before he went down with injury. For the rest
of the season one through fifteen. He finishes tight end thirteen.
(12:47):
Twenty twenty four, ADP tight end twenty two. Okay, the
people are learning a little bit. He finishes tighten twelve
on the season. Last year and Drake Mayce full starts,
he had a nineteen point two percent target year, forty
nine point nine yards per game, and eleven point three
fantasy points per game in full PPR. I mean he's
(13:07):
been great and now he's tightened nineteen. Clearly we see
his ceiling or the floor that is the floor is
tight end swell tight end thirteen. He is a number
one tight end and he's going all the way dirt
cheap in the back of the rounds. If you just
want to fay tight end and just punt tight end,
go get Hunter Henry because Hunter Henry is good every
(13:28):
single year. And I'm not afraid of Sefon Diggs I'm
not afraid of whatever else that Rabel has cooking up
over there with the Patriots. I think Hunter Henry is
here to say.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You know, it's interesting because, like Tyler Warren, great talent,
I'm just completely not sold yet on the situation being
a good one for him as a rookie tight end.
They're going, you know, not that far away from each other.
Would you rather have the hundred side of the talent
of Okay, there you go, zeros the guy that's the guy.
How about for you same answer? Would you take the
floor of Hunter Henry or whatever the upside is of
(13:58):
Tyler Warren? Or you just think would just stash them
in and see what happens?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yeah, I mean, I do agree with a lot of
what treal is saying about Hunter Henry, but I would
take Tyler Warren just for the sure possibilities with the upside.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
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Sh
Welcome into everybody to Fantasy Pros. This is the Fantasy
Football podcast. That's me Joey p Joe Pizapia, and today
we're gonna take a quick look at some breakouts, some
guys that are gonna be sleepers who could blow up
in twenty twenty five. These are not the sexiest names
on the board necessarily, but they are names that could
help you win a fantasy league. And I've got two
other names that can help you win as well, Terrell
(00:22):
Furman Junior, my boy from Betting Pros, and also my
Patty Cakes Pat fitz Morris. The boys have compiled the
list here to help you find some of those deeper
stashes in your fantasy drafts that are upcoming in just
the weeks ahead. Before we get to those names, don't
forget use the cheat sheeet creator and all the tools
here along with us on the podcast to help you
(00:43):
crush all of your competition. Because the cheat cheet creator
is here for you, and I'll tell you what fantasypros
dot Com slash sheet you can customize your board and
make sure that you're getting all of the names. You
can pick your favorite experts. You could do it all
and do a hybrid of all those things for sleepers, breakouts,
and more. Sinker leagues for free, customize your rankings, use
(01:03):
all the tools over Fantasy Pros. Download the Fantasy Football
Draft Wizard app today at fantasypros dot com. S Last Sheet,
that's the place to go to make your customized draft sheet.
All right, pow Fitzmorris, let's start with you here. We're
gonna start with I can't believe it. The packer guy
is starting with a Chicago Bear. But let's start with
a guy in that backfield that you think people should
pay attention.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
To, Roshan Johnson.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
And why, yes, Joe, I am interested in running back
who averaged two point seven yards per carry last season.
I'm giving a Rochean a mulligan. For twenty twenty four,
Chicago's offensive line was a mass, especially inside, which hurts
a running back like Rochan who conducts a lot of
his business between the tackles. The Bears ranked thirty first
in the run blocking metric adjusted lineyards only the Dolphins
(01:46):
were worse. Rochean averaged one point five yards before contact
per carry, which ranked outside the top one hundred among
running backs. But the Bears have pretty much fixed the
interior of their offensive line. They signed Joe Thuni, Chris Dloman,
and Jonah Jackson. That's a pretty impressive overhaul. And what
really has me most interested in Rochan though, is the
(02:08):
possibility that he becomes the discount David Montgomery in Ben
Johnson's offense. Montgomery has twenty five rushing touchdowns in twenty
eight regular season games over the last two years. Rochean's
a big dude, two hundred and twenty five pounds. That's
twenty pounds heavier than DeAndre Swift. There's a good chance
Rochan is the Bears goal line back this year. And
(02:29):
Rochan isn't just a one trick ponies pretty good pass
catcher at thirty four catches as a rookie. He's a
good enough athlete that he made Bruce Feldman's twenty twenty
two Freaks list back when Rochan was playing behind Bijon
Robinson at Texas, he was right behind then Oregon cornerback
Christian Gonzalez on the list. So Rochan actually enrolled at
(02:50):
Texas as a dual threat quarterback. So, and let's look
at Chicago's other running backs. DeAndre Swift dead last in
the NFL in rushing yards overexpected per care last season,
he was underwater at negative zero point six to nine
yards per carry over expected. Then there's rookie seventh rounder
Kamanan guy. I know you like him, Joe, I like
him too, but the profile prospect is a little sauce.
(03:13):
I mean, he's an undersized running back who doesn't catch passes,
and he didn't go until the final round of the draft.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
So Roshan is a pretty compelling deep sleep.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I don't disagree. I like to pay attention when new
coaches come in and start to pick their own guys.
And Monan guy to me, it feels like it could
be the Montgomery goal line back in this offense, which
could be huge. Now, look, I don't love Deandro Swift,
so I think there's room for Roshan and Menan guy,
all of our guys basically to eat there in that
Chicago backfield. I want to take a trip to Denver
(03:42):
on the plane with Terrell and talk about our next guy. Here.
It's a wide receiver on the Broncos that Derell thinks
could have a breakout season.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
What is the name to Oh, yeah, Marvin Mims Junior.
I think it's going to be a year because I
think the Broncos offense is going to be way better
all the way around. This is year two with a rookie,
first year QB and the same head coach, and a
lot of first year QB's second year qbs can't say
they're going into that second third year with the same
(04:10):
head coach. And here he is. This is Sean Payton's guy,
and he's gonna coddle him. I said it all last
season and this didn't change, Joe. You thought that just
because we're in a new season has changed.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
No, he is.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Coddling little old bow Dix like a baby and giving
him everything he needs. And what he gave him at
the end of the last season was Marvin Mimmes Marvin
Mims Week eleven on wide receiver twenty three in fantasy,
and I think, yes, he had a lot of touchdowns
in that stretch. We can't sit here and say that
we can predict touchdowns all the time, but he has
the target share. He saw target on thirty percent of
(04:43):
his routes run at that point in time, and I
think it can only get better with another year in
the offense. And I know Pat Bryan is out there.
All the Pats, they're getting on my nerves.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Now. I know that Pat Bryan is out there.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
I know Pat Bryan's out there, but he's still gonna
be a first year wide receiver. And regardless, it takes
time to escalate. It takes time to get those guys
comfortable in the system. So I think Marvin Mims is
going to be way better than wide receiver forty nine
A fifty nine.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I'm sure Terrell still loves you. You're not a pat
that gets on anybody's nerves. By the way, Marvin Mimms
going around wide receiver fifty seven right now currently, that's
kind of his mo. That's a pretty darn good value
for a guy in that offense could take a real
step forward this season, that's for sure. All right, Pat,
back to you. Let's go with a running back now
in Cleveland that you think might have a bigger opportunity.
(05:30):
Perhaps this is based on some recent events, or maybe
just the fact that we like this talent. We just
didn't love the landing spot at first. But it doesn't
mean that Dylan Sampson can't necessarily still make some progress
in his rookie season.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, it's a little of both factors show. I mean,
going into the NFL Draft this year, I had Dylan
Sampson ranked RB six among the running back prospects.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
He was my favorite guy behind the.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Big five of Ashton Genty, Omarion Hampton, Trevion Henderson, quinch
On Judkins, and Hale Johnson. Sampson has great lateral agility,
really good contact balance for a two hundred pound running back,
and he plays much faster than his four point five
forty time. It's also a really smart, patient runner, and
(06:11):
he catches passes. The problem was that Sampson was a
fourth round pick of the Cleveland Browns, who had already
selected Quinchawn Judkins in the second round and also have
Jerome Ford on the roster. Well, quin Shawn is now
facing some legal difficulties which might give Samson a little
bit of daylight in this crowded backfield. And I know
that during their mini camp, Duce Staley, the Browns running
(06:34):
backs coach, said that he wanted to use Sampson as
a running back and as a receiver who can move
around the formation. So that could vode pretty well for
Samson's usage this year. I just know the Cleveland RBF
situation is pretty ambiguous, but that ambiguity is giving us
a really nice discount on a talented young rookie. So
I'm happy to bet on Samson's talent and grab him
(06:57):
with one of my final draft picks.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Pat just basically in the same round almost. I mean,
Jerome Ford is at RB fifty six, Samson's at RB sixty.
Would you take Samson? This is the younger back here.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Yeah, I mean it's close, but I think there's a
little more upside with Samson.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Like we've seen what Ford is. I don't think.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Ford is good enough to dispatch the young guys in
that backfield, but there's a chance Sampson is so good
that they just say, Okay, we're playing this guy over
Ford and Judkins.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Fair enough. All right, back to you, Trell, and let's
start with another wide receiver on your list. Joshua Palmer
finds himself in a new spot. So why could this
be different for his fantasy value this season?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Oh? Yeah, I mean it's kind of similar to the
Darnell Mooney call I had last year of a proven
wide receiver that may have not had the best situation.
Moving on to a good spot, for them and Joshua Palmer,
while his numbers really don't glare off the page for
you at all, but if you watch the tape and
you look at him, he gets separation. And that's the
(07:57):
thing that they need in Buffalo. They need wide receivers
that can get separation and be open. I don't think
that there's a clear cut Number one. Some people will
say is Shakir. Other people feel like Keyon Coleman is
gonna make a huge step and he's gonna be the
number one in his offense. I'm sitting here saying I
think Palmer's gonna have a role. They didn't bring him
in for nothing. He signed a three year, thirty six
million dollars deal with the Bills. He's in the long
(08:20):
term plans for them. You look at what he does
in terms of separation last year and he was sixteenth
in separation and twelfth in route win rate. So I
think that this is another spot where we have another
veteran wide receiver going to play with a talented quarterback
and he's just gonna be somebody that's like, oh wait,
I can trust this guy. He can get open multiple times.
So Wide receiver sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
That's way too low.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
That's way too low. He doesn't have to go out
here and be a top ten wide receiver for him
to outperform wide receiver sixty nine. So I think Josh
Palmer is gonna have a great year.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Do you have to be a key on Coleman fader
to be interested in Josh Palmer? Yes, okay, because that
feels like that. I'd have to be the case there.
And I know some people still are not sold on
keyon Coleman. It's one of the big debates this offseason.
I know Terrell is not pat. I feel like you
are a key on combing I'm to do And I
(09:12):
think what was so interesting about it? He's heard an
interview with him where you know, they asked him, what
did you do you know last this offseason when you
know you're watching tape. Then he said, I have to
improve on everything. You was just saying none of it
was good enough, which is great that he kind of
recognized that, and you gotta love the kids. Just whether
or not he can improve on it, that's a different question.
As Terrell pointed out too, the ADP for Palmer is
(09:34):
basically free, So free is always a nice investment. All right,
we've got two more names here. We're gonna get to.
One is a wide receiver, going back to the Carolina
Panthers for this one. This kid had some moments last season. Pat,
let's talk about Jalen Coker, because now all of a
sudden it is a very crowded room. Ted McMillan is there.
You have Xavier Lagette, you have Adam Thielend, the ageless
(09:56):
wonder still hovering around. So where does Coker fit into
all of this?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah, I mean there is target competition, Joe, but like
not a lot of high level target competition. It's not
like he has to contend with Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison.
The Panthers obviously expect Teteroa McMillan to play a big
role right away, but then e Xavier Leaguette, who, let's
face it was pretty terrible as a rookie last year.
(10:19):
And Adam Feelin, who's going to be thirty five next month.
I think Moses said Adam Thielen on his fantasy team
back in biblical times. And then Carolina's tight ends don't
really catch many passes. So our colleague Derek Brown was
an early Jalen Cocher enthusiast, and as much as I
hate to admit it, I think Debro might be right
(10:41):
about this.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
In fact, I'm going to use some some of the
same numbers.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Do you please nobody tag him on the YouTube comment.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
We don't want to We don't want to inflate as ego. Yeah,
I'm going to use some of Debro's numbers to make
the case for Coker. There were six games last season
where Coker played at least two thirds of the offensive
snaps for the Panthers and Bryce Young was the Panthers
starting quarterback. Cocher averaged fifty five point seven receiving yards
per game, eleven point four PPR Fantasy points per game,
(11:10):
and one point eight nine yards per route run in
those six contests. So yeah, I mean, I think this
guy is sneaky good and I like him as a
late round flyer. I think there is a path to targets,
maybe multiple pass to targets, since this is not a
I don't know, not a world beating wide receiver corp
that he has to deal with.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, A Cooker's actually a guy that I picked up
in a couple of deeper leagues last year, and I
picked up in Dynasty too because I do like the
player and I think, much to my chagrin as well,
Deebro might have been right about this one. So I'm
fascinated to see Bryce Young take another step forward this
season too, because I think if you were paying attention
last year, it's something we keep driving home on the
betting shows. If you haven't seen those, go subscribe to
Betting Pros. We've been talking about a lot of the
(11:51):
recaps from last year the offseason and you know, prepping
for this year and looking at win totals and whatnot.
That was a team that covered a lot of games.
Defense is still bad, which means the offense still has
to push a football. So a lot of positive things
there potentially for Jalen Coker and for the Panthers good
head coach too. All right, give us one more name here,
and Terrell, I guess you're trying to get in my
good graces here because he chose a Patriot.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yeah I did. And even though I may not be
the highest Drake may guy here on the show, but Hunter, Henry, Hunter, Henry.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Here we go again.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Have y'all played a grand theft auto and you had
CJ and he's like, oh man, here we go again.
That's what I feel with Hunter Henry every single time.
Twenty twenty three, he joins the Patriots. ADP is tight
end thirty. That season he finished in weeks one through
fifteen before he went down with injury. For the rest
of the season one through fifteen. He finishes tight end thirteen.
(12:47):
Twenty twenty four, ADP tight end twenty two. Okay, the
people are learning a little bit. He finishes tighten twelve
on the season. Last year and Drake Mayce full starts,
he had a nineteen point two percent target year, forty
nine point nine yards per game, and eleven point three
fantasy points per game in full PPR. I mean he's
(13:07):
been great and now he's tightened nineteen. Clearly we see
his ceiling or the floor that is the floor is
tight end swell tight end thirteen. He is a number
one tight end and he's going all the way dirt
cheap in the back of the rounds. If you just
want to fay tight end and just punt tight end,
go get Hunter Henry because Hunter Henry is good every
(13:28):
single year. And I'm not afraid of Sefon Diggs I'm
not afraid of whatever else that Rabel has cooking up
over there with the Patriots. I think Hunter Henry is
here to say.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You know, it's interesting because, like Tyler Warren, great talent,
I'm just completely not sold yet on the situation being
a good one for him as a rookie tight end.
They're going, you know, not that far away from each other.
Would you rather have the hundred side of the talent
of Okay, there you go, zeros the guy that's the guy.
How about for you same answer? Would you take the
floor of Hunter Henry or whatever the upside is of
(13:58):
Tyler Warren? Or you just think would just stash them
in and see what happens?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yeah, I mean, I do agree with a lot of
what treal is saying about Hunter Henry, but I would
take Tyler Warren just for the sure possibilities with the upside.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
All right, drop your comments below. Who would you rather have?
Hunter Henry or Tyler Warren? Drop your comments in the chat.
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