Fantasy Football Waiver Wire Stashes To Target Ahead of Week 1 (Ep. 1682)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros. This is the Fantasy
Football Podcast. It is me Joey P Joe Pisapia, and
today we're gonna get ahead of the waiver wire. That's right,
because a lot of your leagues have already opened up waivers.
And Jake Seely from the Athletic and I are going
to help you get some names on your rosters before
everybody else because we want to save you time, energy,
and most importantly, your fab budget. That's right, your free

(00:22):
agent budget. We want you to have as much as
you can. So let's get ahead of everybody else. Let's
be smarter. Let's work together to get the right guys
on that roster. And Jake Seely, we're gonna start things
off here with a bang. I've been drafting this guy everywhere.
I know you and I were fighting over him on
a draft today. But Ali Gordon of the Miami Dolphins
looks like he might have a role in this offense now.
Devan a Chen is tending toward playing right now. It

(00:46):
seems like it's going in that direction where he's gonna
be ready week one as of recording this. But it
is a calf issue and it is a guy that's
had some injury history in the past. Ali Gordon, in
case you didn't know, had twenty six carries for one
hundred and twenty six rushing yards re receptions for forty eight.
And that was a pretty good preseason for Ali Gordon,
the OSU product, and Ali Gordon just looked comfortable in

(01:07):
the offense and Jake we've seen Oli Gordon perform well,
but we've also seen Miami use multiple running backs for
fantasy in this offense. Just dial back a couple of
years ago to Raheem Moster too. So let's talk about
the reasons why you think Oli Gordon should be somebody
you add now and not wait for the end of
Week one.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, and the best part about it is just taken
before the waivers. I have an article at the Athletics
the Free Guys. I do the free guys every single year,
basically one hundred and fifty plus pick and ADP and
the first four of these five names are free still
as of right now.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Alli Gordon's at the top of the list for two reasons.
One is he's probably not going to be as free
if you're drafting this weekend, but he's still somebody going
outside the top one hundred and somebody that should not
be going that far. As you mentioned that draft, you
and I were in. I think it was the eighth
or ninth round. He went, you probably don't have to
go that early. Maybe it was the tenth, but somewhere
around there. I looked again him because let's take one
step back. You talk about everything we like from him.

(02:00):
Two things here is one. Jalen Wright did everything he
could to look like the worst running back in the
NFL in the preseason, and then he got hurt on
top of it. So even if Chan plays seventeen games,
we've seen Raheem moster.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
By the way, he had the better season than a Chan,
And I don't think Ali Gordon's gonna have a better season.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Than e Chan.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
The point being is you said you kind of set
it up. We know this backfield is a two headed monster.
They use both. This is like the Lions. We want
that second piece. He can be David Montgomery for the
Dolphins and the biggest appeal here. And you remember this
because we talked about him like a month and a
half ago on this network and I said, I thought
he fit the Raheem moster roll better than Jalen Wright,

(02:39):
but jalen Wright was in front of him. At that time.
I was still drafting jaalen Wright but taking flyers on
Oli Gordon. But as I mentioned, everything Bright did was terrible.
Everything Alli Gordon has done reminded of us two years
ago in twenty twenty three, when we're like, oh, this
might be a first round running back. Of course twenty
twenty four happen, but now he's set up to worst
case scenario. Give you a flex running backvalue? Are you

(03:00):
best case scenario? Hm misses anytime, and now you're talking
about top twenty even potentially better.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, before the injury, Jalen Wright averaging I think one
point six yards per carry, get excited every which is
what he did last year. All right, let's talk about
another running back too, And as Jake said, I want
to just reiterate this for the audience too. Don't forget
if you're in these drafts and deeper leagues to draft
these guys. Okay, they're going almost free, but in case

(03:25):
your draftsbury happened, these are our targets for early waiver
wire this week, Let's talk about Dylan Sampson. Now, the
Cleveland Brown's backfield situation is certainly one that is in motion.
Drome Ford's there, Judkins, we throw our hands up here
at this point, But what do you see in Dylan
Sampson that makes him potentially valuable in fantasy? Early on? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Jadkins? Can I do the shrug emoji at this point?

Speaker 1 (03:49):
That's the best analysis I think anyone could give on these.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Well, I will say I'm glad we recorded this after
something happened this morning, because Pierre Thomas yesterday got reliefed,
and I'm like, oh, maybe they know Judkins' situation is
gonna get figured out in the NFL is going to
suspend him two games or something. But then they picked
up Raheem Sanders off Waivers and added him to the backfield,
which goes back to okay, maybe they don't. All right,

(04:13):
So what's the one.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Thing that we do know?

Speaker 2 (04:14):
We know Jerome Ford, and we know Jerome Ford's a
good running back. He's a replaceable running back. Dylan Samson
has some like Taja Spears to his game. Some And
if we said Taja Spears was on the Browns and
we had this situation going on, everybody drafting or Taj
Spears is an RB three, which is what's the constant
that we know. Dylan Samson similar to Tea's number five.

(04:36):
His role is secure whether it's Jerome Ford or Judkins
ever gets onto this team as the passing down complement
Jalen Warren in this offense, Yes, it's the Browns, but
it's the Browns with Joe Flacco right now. Joe Flacco,
by the way, I don't know if you know this.
Joe over his last seventeen starts forty four hundred passing yards.
This offense is going to do things. I don't expect

(04:57):
it to be a top ten offense, but it's going
to be productive more so than people think. I would
take it over the Saints. I would take it over
the Giants as of today. So at Dylan Samson another
one that could be an RB three for you, especially
if you went wide receiver heavy.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
A thousand of those passing yards by the way to
the opposing safeties and the team that.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Made it five thousand.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
There you go all the way right, But no, you're
you're not wrong, which brings us to the next guy
on our list perfectly now, Cedric Tillman, who we were
just in a draft that literally just wrapped up before
this show, the CBS Experts League for the Saint Jude's
Charity that we do every year. And I drafted this guy,
and I've been drafted this guy. And I got into
a little tussle in July with Pat fitz Morris is

(05:39):
about Deontay Johnson. I said, Deante Johnson's been on three
teams in a year. He's done, he's dusted, it's over,
and sure enough, he was part of cut day yesterday
and Cedric Tillman. Look, this was a prospect that I
liked coming into the NFL to begin with, and I
knew it was going to be a little bit of
a slow burn. As you mentioned with Flacco, I'm very
optimistic he can carve out a nice number two wide

(06:02):
receiver role. You saw a short window there over like
a four game stretch where Tillman was very useful. And
once again you talk about free guys, He's a free
square and I think you and I see eye to
eye on Cedric Tillman as well.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah, it was one of the few times where you
pop my cue over to CBS. I mean we were
nine eight picks apart, so it's gonna happen anyway. But
like this was one of the ones where I was like, hey,
you know what, I'm gonna still get Cedric Tillman. They're like,
oh no, I'm not joke at him, because here's the appeal.
You bring up that four game sample forty targets. Do
I think that Cedric Tillman's walking into one hundred and
seventy targets? Absolutely not. Do I think he's going to

(06:38):
be the top two option, Yes, because he is a
top two option now. Of course David and Joku's in
the mix. But if I said, there's a world, Joe
where we do somehow get Flacco for seventeen games, and
we get to week seventeen, and similar to the argument
about DeVante Adams and Puka Naku and he said that
Cedric Tillman outscored Jerry Judy, I would not fall out
in my chair shocked. I'd be surprised, but I want

(06:59):
to be like, oh my god, I never saw that happening.
There's a world where it can happen because you just
brought up the four game sample. He's a productive white
receiver that everybody last year was calling a post type
sleeper and now he has Joe Flacco as his quarterback
at least to start the season, if not at least
ten twelve games before they start thinking about twenty twenty six.
If Flacco doesn't get hurt, and he's very similar to

(07:20):
number four, but similar to number four when we talk
about on the segue into him, the one thing I
know about Joe Flacco, I just brought up those forty
four hundred yards. He is going to chuck the ball,
Chuck the ball, chuck the ball. Well, who do I
want that scenario? The number two on his team that
has a ton of big playability.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, it's cheaper than Jerry Judy. There's a lot of
reasons I think to like Cedric Tillman there half of
the price of Jerry Judy. Half the price Yeah, but
I mean all of those are good reasons there. And
Cedric Tillman, again, I knew it was going to take
a little while for him to pop off. In that
he stayed healthy, maybe this would be a different conversation,
but he didn't last year. So there's value there coming in.
And whether you're drafting late here or again, the waiver

(07:55):
wire is now open for business. You want to add
these guys. So so far, we've talked about Ali Gordon,
talked about two Browns there, Dylan Samson, Centric Tillman. Again.
Players on bad teams sometimes get overlooked in drafts, and
rightfully so. But in these circumstances, this is the time
to buy in on some of these guys who can
be productive in fantasy. We have two more names we
want to talk about before we do. Just a quick reminder.
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(08:16):
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(09:02):
Don't be a tool, use the tools, all right. Next
guy on our list is a Denver Bronco wide receiver
that made a flurry of touchdowns at the end of
twenty twenty four. Now, Derek Brown keeps saying that's not sustainable,
that's not sustainable, and he's probably right, But there's room
for somebody else here as bo Nicks hopefully takes another
step further in his development. So let's talk about Marvin
Mims and what the upside is for him this season.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, so, I see, Marvin Mimson isn't gonna catch thirty
two touchdown passes this year. Dang hey, if they do
my rejections.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Thirty in your projections. But clear all.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Right, Look, this is coming from somebody who hasn't been
a Marvin Mims fan due to the perception of everybody else.
Like I brought up and I said, Marvin Mimms he's
a possession wide receiver, which people don't seem to want
to accept. And I'm not coming for people or anything.
I'm just saying, like people say, the big playability, and
what I mean by possession wide receiver somebody who doesn't
do a ton after the catch. So let me make

(09:55):
that clear. He has twenty thirty forty yard big playability.
That is very clear, but he a lot goes down
after he catched the ball, which is fine because, like
Sedric Tillman, I want that big playability. I want the
number two on the offense. He has clearly been the
number two, as we yelled at our screens last year
at the end of the season, like Sean Payton, give
him more snaps? What the hell are you doing? And
he's Sean Payton. He was like, I guess I should

(10:16):
give him more snaps, Like, yeah, no kidding, because the
rest of the guys on your team are fine options,
but nobody's playing to his level. So if you tell
me that Mims and Tilman both walk into one hundred
and ten, one hundred and twenty targets as the number
two's this year, I actually think they're going to be
very similar in the production The only splitting difference was
if you said Cedric Tillman has Dylan Gabriel from week one,

(10:37):
he'd probably be number five and might not even make
the list. But he has Joe Flacco as of today,
Bo Nicks, I don't think will pass quite as much
as Joe Flacco, but I know the touchdowns will be there.
We saw him as a rookie and I know he
will pass enough that Marvin Mims, you tell me he's
a wide receiver four, and I have to live through
the ups and downs as my wide receiver four. Absolutely,
But as you've been saying this whole show, Joe, you're

(10:58):
picking them off waivers, and if you're drafting this weekend,
he's still free. You don't even have to say he's
my wide receiver four. He could be your bench option.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yeah. And look, you never have enough depth of quality here,
whether it be a wide receiver running back. So you know,
make these adjustments in your draft strategy. Add these guys
to your queue late. And this is where you can
really gain an advantage too, because if you talk about you know,
sometimes people don't have the attention span, like the draft
starts to get away from a lot of the Normis
and the casuals out there where all of a sudden,

(11:26):
their depth of the pool isn't very good. This is
where we come in to help you with these names.
And we've got one more for you too that we
want to talk about, and it's in the Washington Commander backfield. Now,
Chris Rodriguez is that guy from me because I think
that's the dude that's going to get the goal line
work and to me, that's where it's really valuable. But
you're thinking in some of those more shallow leagues too,
that Austin Eckler is probably floating around there in some

(11:47):
of those ten teamers. So let's talk about Austin Eckler
and now that Brian Robinson Junior finds himself outside of
this Washington Commander backfield, who's got the inside track to
the fantasy volume.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, well this is twelve team two to be clear.
And I know some people might be watching this and
being like, not my league. I go by under sixty
percent on Yahoo and that's pretty much a pretty good
barometer for the most leagues. So Austin Eckler might be
already drafted, might already be on rosters. But if you
go by under sixty percent. He's not. He's in around
the fifty percent mark, and it's been climbing. He was

(12:20):
already in the forties, and I bring him up. Similar
to Dylan Samson, is that if you're right about Chris Rodriguez,
great for the people there in Chris Rodriguez. Sorry, Krossky
Merrit people. If you're wrong, cool for Krossky Merrit people.
Bad for Chris Rodriguez. The one thing that doesn't matter
for either one of them is Austin Eckler is Austin
Eckler is Austin Eckler. Yes, last year was a disappointment
because he got hurt, but while he was out there,

(12:41):
similar to Christian Kirk argument we make all the time
he was productive when he was on the field. Is
he more than an RB three at this point?

Speaker 1 (12:48):
No?

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Do you want him a non ppr? Probably not even
a non PPR but half a full point PPR as
you're RB three, which again he's going to be on
your bench, so you can kind of what I like
about Eckler is takeing him off waivers or double digit rounds,
putting him on your bench, and then taking a flyer
as your third running back. So if that busts, then
you have Echo to fall back on as your flex option.

(13:11):
Even if you need the flex option. He's just that reliable. Hey,
you know what, I'm gonna go out there and I'm
gonna get double digit points every single game. Maybe I
don't get you twenty five, but I'm out there producing
top thirty numbers every single week. Is a half a
full full point PPR running back.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
I got one more for you in deeper leagues too.
I'm glad it's a prospect that I liked in draft season,
and I like the landing spot two for him. Elik
Iomaner of the time. I love it. That's another guy
too that I would just if you're in a fourteen
team league. He's probably still undrafted, I would imagine. I
don't think it's going to be September, but at some
point I think it's going to work his way up

(13:49):
the depth chart, and I think he and Kim Ward
are going to make some beautiful music together at some
point in the second half. So that's another name.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Do you do you want to hear the line from
my Free Guys article, legit said he said has to
work his way out the depth chart, but he only
has to pass the deteriorating higher Locket and Van Hey,
I make two big plays a year, Jefferson.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
That's not too hard an He's a dude.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
He also had a great game against Travis Hunter when
they faced Colorado.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
That's what everybody was points to is that one clip
of him masson Hunter, which is fun, which is.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
It was the entire game that he did was the game.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
He did have a huge game, but that that one
catch that he makes there where he's you know, in
the overtime in the end zone, you know, over the
head and he's dragging him into the end zone with him,
you know where. I thought you're going to go two
of them. He and Cam Wore seemed to have a
nice chemistry too early on, which is nice to see.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yes, which I really like. I thought you were going
to bring up and we'll throw another bonus one. I
thought you're going to bring up Eazak Teslaw, who I
compared to last year's Juwan Jennings. Juwan Jennings needed injury
in front of him. But if any of the three
get hurt a man ros Saint Brown, Jamison Williams or
even Sam Laporta, and they decide to run some more
three wide. And by the way, the one thing that
they said they're not making a lot of changes in

(14:57):
their offense, but the one thing they do want to
try a little bit more this year is some the
big play opportunities. By the way, if anybody gets hurt,
Tesla is going to be this year's Juwan Jennings where
everybody is scrambling to the waiver wire to get him.

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(15:51):
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