Dive into Week 11’s hottest waiver wire pickups and find out which players can boost your fantasy team through the bye weeks! Join Joe Pisapia, Pat Fitzmaurice, and Derek Brown as they break down top picks like Audric Estime, Russell Wilson, and Gus Edwards. Get strategic insights on who to target based on upcoming schedules. This episode is packed with must-know tips for navigating injuries, byes, and maximizing your fantasy potential this week. Make sure you tune in to get ahead in your league!
Timestamps (may be off due to ads):
Intro - 0:00:00
Trophy Smack Giveaway - 0:02:02
Waiver Wire Add of the Week: Jaylen Warren - 0:03:18
DraftKings Sportsbook - 0:06:48
Top RB Adds - 0:08:10
Audric Estime - 0:08:20
Trey Benson - 0:12:23
Gus Edwards - 0:15:32
JK Dobbins - 0:16:32
Drop Jordan Mason? - 0:18:20
Gametime - 0:19:55
Top WR Adds - 0:21:20
Marquez Valdes-Scantling - 0:21:43
Alec Pierce and Adonai Mitchell - 0:24:59
Ricky Pearsall - 0:27:46
Mike Williams - 0:30:35
Elijah Moore, Jerry Jeudy, and Jalen Coker - 0:32:59
Drop Jalen Tolbert? - 0:33:22
Top Streamers - 0:35:47
Russell Wilson - 0:36:28
Bo Nix - 0:36:43
Jonnu Smith - 0:37:33
Dawson Knox - 0:37:53
LAR DST - 0:38:35
HOU DST - 0:38:58
Jason Sanders - 0:40:04
Jake Bates - 0:40:16
Top Overall Waiver Wire Adds - 0:41:56
Outro - 0:43:01
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in everybody to Fantasy pros. This is the Fantasy
Football Podcast. It is be Joey p Joe Pi's Apia
and welcome to week eleven on the waiver Wire, of course,
to help us get all the right players on all
the right rosters. De Bro, Derek Brown and the King of
Bros and my Patty Cakes Pat fitz Morris. We have
a couple teams on by this week, and it was
(00:21):
another fun week of NFL football. Some odd quarterback play too,
and by odd, I mean bad. Lots of interceptions, lots
of guys under two hundred yards. It was ugly in
those passing streets. It looked like all the best football
seemed to happen on Thursday night.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Pat It did soun interesting stat today, Joe about Jared Goff.
So he threw five interceptions the Lions still won. If
you had to guess, how many quarterbacks in the Super
Bowl era have thrown five interceptions in a game and
still won.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Oh, I'm gonna say one.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Oh, de Bro, I'm gonna say Jared Goff is the
only one here.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
You go, Because I believe it or not, Jared Goff
was the tenth quarterback to be I was shocked by that,
and hat tipped to the people at Good Morning Football,
they were the ones who dropped that stat. But you
would think that while won, five interceptions seriously derails your
chances of winning the game, and five interceptions would also
(01:25):
highly increase your chances of getting benched and not being
around for the end of the game. So yeah, I
was shocked the number was that significant.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I think that is the more interesting point, right there,
Guys under two hundred yards yesterday. Let's see Russell Wilson,
Daniel Jones, Drake may will Levs, Justin Herbert, Aaron Rodgers,
Nice Young Caleb Williams, Baker Mayfield, Mac Jones, Cooper Rush.
I don't think I need to go any further, but yeah,
it was not a great day for passing the football.
(01:53):
But that's okay everybody, because we press on and hopefully
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(03:18):
wire pickup of the week. A guy that we talked
about last week who was not available on a bye right,
but we said, hey, good time to add some people here.
See what you get and guess what, the roster percentage
did not move that much. He is just fifty four
percent rostered. He was back yesterday fourteen rushes, sixty six yards,
two catches for twenty nine. He is Jalen Warren of
the Pittsburgh Steelers. Now, looking at Jalen Warren's schedule ahead, boys,
(03:42):
the reason why I was putting him at the top
of the list for me personally is I look at
some of these games ahead for the Steelers and I
know they're three and o with Russell Wilson. They're flying high.
Big win in Washington, you get Baltimore, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Cleveland again,
Philly and Baltimore again. That's a lot of defenses you
can throw the football against. And he's also passed the
by now, which with weeks twelve and fourteen looming in
(04:06):
the near future, to me, that's a very valuable flex
slash RB two.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
To have pat and Najie Harris to stay in some
sort of ankle injury yesterday, So that's going to enhance
Jalen Warren's role, you would think, at least for this
coming week. Certainly Corderol Patterson will help take up some
of the slack two. But you know, the Ravens are
a difficult matchup in the running game, not so much
in the passing game for running backs. They do really
(04:31):
give it up to pass catching rbs, and maybe more
so this coming week because they lost Kyle Hamilton to
an ankle injury and that Thursday night game Hamilton was
a big part of their pass defense against running backs.
So yeah, I mean, this is certainly a pretty bright
usage outlook I would say for Jalen Warren this week.
(04:52):
And I know he's not available in every league, but
if he is available in your league, you know, even
if it's a shallow ten team league, I think he's
worth string and maybe.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
You know, flexing even in a shallow league this week. Yeah.
I know on some of the other you know, football
services like Yahoo and some other places, that ross percent
is a little less again, especially coming off the buy
and check your league too, because a lot of people
had a lot of injuries this week where they had
to make these hard decisions like well, I need somebody
to stream right now when Jalen Warren isn't one of
those guys, so I need to drop him to pick
up somebody else that circumstance might be out there. He
(05:23):
also might be some you know, a piece you could
be re acquiring a trade too, But Warren a piece
where I think you see that role continue to grow
a little bit. And you know, as they added Mike Williams,
we'll talk a little bit more about him. You know,
certainly the offense is starting to open up a little
bit here and that's also a good thing for Jalen
Warren's future here. But Deebro, I want to get your
take on Warren. I know, a player that you're historically
(05:46):
high on and what his role might be here down
the stretch.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeh In he's a weekly flex play with RB two
upside if he gets in the end zone. Like last week,
look at the stat line that he had, guys, and
that was with Naji playing that type of stat line.
You had a touchdown on top of that we're talking about.
He walks away as an RB two for the week.
So this is agnostic of he needs to be a
major pickup for people if he's out there, So scour
(06:11):
all your leagues see where he's at, and if he's not,
then try to get him included in a trade because
the deadline's coming up. Because yeah, he's an RB three weekly,
he's an RB two if he ever scores a touchdown,
and if Nause is out for any amount of time,
he's an RB two with RB one upside.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, and then that would be the huge thing there.
I just keep on back to the schedule too. I
think there's a lot of good matchups where the game
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Speaker 1 (08:10):
There was a guy who was fighting for the crown
of Waiver Wire out of the Week for Week eleven.
He felt a little short. We had a little debate
about it before the show. Now we're gonna have a
little debate on the show. Audrick Estime of the Denver
Broncos just seven percent rostered. We've been hearing increased workload,
increased workload. Things were gonna go a little bit better
for him. And then this week against the Chiefs, a
(08:32):
very tough run defense. Audrich Estim really kind of was
the guy. Now, Javonte Williams isn't gone, He is not out.
There's nothing like that. So Debro the schedule also good
for him. But for me, the big deciding factor between
Estimate and Warren, if they are both available in your league,
is one's already passed his buy and one in Jalen
(08:52):
Warren passed the by and you kind of know what
his role is in the offense. It's still some ifs
for me, although estime, I think is going to be
bit on very aggressively, especially by teams that need RB help.
So give me your take on estimate what you saw
yesterday and what you think you're gonna see from him
in these next few weeks.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I mean, right now, he's an RB three like flex
play looking at the role that he got last week,
playing forty six percent of the snaps, he ran eight routes.
Javonte still ran ten, So this wasn't a full takeover
the backfield, but it was pretty damn close to it.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
He got all the short.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yardage work, finishing with fourteen carries and fifty three rushing yards.
I mean, if he's going to be the early down
hammer for Denver's offense, I really like him. And I
know we were talking about this like before the show,
and I was, I mean really kind of like pounding
the table for him because the schedule upcoming man is
fantastic and he's out there in so many different leagues
(09:45):
that yeah, I mean, he could be a plug and
play RB two down the stretch, Like, are you tell
me this guys.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
You're so excited there for a second. You actually I
know myself, I just myself. Okay for a little temperature checker, right, Okay, Well,
I don't want you to get too excited. He's got
a lie of show left to do, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Look at this schedule, Okay, Atlanta, Las Vegas, Cleveland, and Indy.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Are you scared of any of those run defenses? Guys?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Are Do we think the Denver's run it like their
defense is going to put them in positive gamescripts? Those
are all good matchups.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, and the Denver Broncos have exceeded. I think a
lot of people's expectations, especially early on, things were a
little rough there. Uh. Pat, I don't know if you're
quite as six to midnight as Derek Brown is on
audric Est to May. But are you of that same
mind in terms of aggression, Cause let's talk about it, like,
is this a player that you are? You know you're
looking at the stretch run here, You're emptying the clip
on this guy, because hey, if he does take over
(10:43):
that number one role in that backfield, this could be
a huge difference maker between making or missing the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I don't think that Odric Estimae is a gift from
the fantasy gods. Like Tyrone Tracy was a guy who
you need to have in your lineup everywhere. Tyrone Tracy
is there for sure. I don't know if Audric Estime
is going to quite reach that threshold of fantasy value,
but it does look like he has taken over as
the early down back. He outsnapped Javonte Williams twenty six
(11:12):
to sixteen on Sunday, and I carried him fourteen to one.
And you would think Javonte and possibly Julia McLoughlin won't
disappear completely because the running backs as pass catchers have
always been so essential to the Sean Payton offense, although
maybe a little less so this year simply because bo
(11:32):
Nicks scrambles and scrambling quarterbacks check down to their running
backs less, and obviously bo Nicks is a lot more
mobile than Drew Brees used to be. So I don't
think Javante and McLoughlin are going to disappear completely, but
there is still a lot of value to having a
thumper like Oudric estimated boy, he is a thumper. That
final college season at Notre Dame thirteen hundred rushing yards,
(11:55):
eighteen touchdown runs. This guy knows what to do when
he gets inside the five yard line. So that's got
a lot of appeal. And you know, Joe, some people
are really up against it at running back with the
bye weeks. I know in one league where I didn't
have Brian Robinson this week, I just start Blake Koram
in a league this week. So if you're in a
position like that, yes, I would have loved to have
(12:15):
Audric Estimee chiming in with what he gave me versus
what I expect to get from Blake Koram on Monday night.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
There's another guy, And I'm glad we have all these
running backs to talk about because it's been kind of rough,
like last week was not a great weekday adding running backs.
But this week seems much better. Trey Benson, I want
to talk about him for a second. He is available
in seventy five percent of leagues right now. Over on
sleeper Benson rush the ball ten times for sixty two,
caught two passes for twenty five. James Connor wasn't really efficient,
right He had just two point eight yards per carry
(12:43):
on Sunday, So Benson was finding a little bit more
success against the Jets defense, which we've heard a lot
of tales about how good it is. So Benson seems
like another guy too that you talk about the stuff
in a cuff and season we're getting very close. Now
we're in we'll see the eleventh of November as of
recording is Benson seems like a guy there should be
rostered in a higher percentage than he is if something
(13:03):
should happen to James Connor, or if James Connor might
be running out of gas at this juncture in the
season too, because as a guy who has missed some time, historically,
full seasons in James Connor don't always go together. So
I'm not sure exactly what the future holes for Trey Benson,
but Patt, it seems like that ross percentage, just on
principle should be higher by now.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
High end handcuff Trey Benson should be considered, and I
don't think their standalone value. Although this was not entirely
garbage time production in the Cardinals decisive win over the Jets,
there was some of that, but I think they do
sort of want to spell James Connor a little bit
since he's an older back with as you mentioned, Joe
that extensive injury history, so makes sense to not, you know,
(13:45):
work James Connor for twenty five touches every week. And
earlier in the season there was some ambiguity about who
actually was the backup because Imari di Mercato was either
playing ahead of Benson or sort of splitting the backup
duty with him. I think I think now Benson is
the guy. Like they still give de Mercado a few snaps,
but it's pretty much the Trey Benson show behind James conn.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
And they are the first place Cardinals. This is a
team that right now has designs. You know, when I
did the on the Playoffs, when I did the Black
Book this year, we talked about the offensive ecosystems and
I was looking for the outlier, and the one outlier
to me that the team that didn't have all the
right pieces necessarily but could outperform was the Cardinals, and
so far they have. Benson was also deebro the guy
(14:29):
that I remember Ladanian Tomlinson talking on an interview and
he circled him as that was his favorite back and
I always listen little things like that kind of you know,
percolate in my head when I hear somebody of greatness
see somebody and give you a take on them because
they know what it looks like. I don't know what
the future holds for this player long term, but when
greatness says that guy is one to watch, I want
(14:51):
to listen and want to keep that in my back pocket.
Is Benson a guy you want the back pocket a
year roster? Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Absolutely, He's a high end handcuff And like we've talked
about the the show plenty of times, we've reached the
point of the season where you need to be insulating
rosters with high end handcuffs. Yeah, as far as like
handcuffing your own running backs if you have the bench
space and stuff. And I mean, if anything happens to
James Connor, Trey Benson's league winner. Looking at his schedule
(15:19):
Seattle Seahawks, the Vikings, Seahawks, Patriots, Panthers, and Rams, there
isn't a team left on that schedule that you can't
run the ball against. And Trey Benson would be getting
workhorse opportunity now.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Speaking to run the ball, the Chargers like to run
the ball. Gus Edwards came back and Gus Edwards got
a lot more work than I think a lot of
us might have thought. Ten carries for fifty five yards
looked fresh, which is good because Dobbins has looked not
so fresh. I would say in the last couple of
games he is only nineteen percent roster. Would you put
him in this whole? You know, like, hey, you could
do worse than Gus Edwards in these next couple of
(15:52):
weeks if you have to flex him and he's going
to get some work because of the style of this offense.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Hebro Yeah, I think he falls into he's a little
bit lower than these other guys only because we know
that Gus Edwards is not going to get passing now
work and this backfield would be split up. So I
think there's a division of tiers for these guys, and
I think Gus is like that second or third tier
kind of guy only because we know those are limitations
(16:16):
and full stop limitations to his game. So the upside
is kind of capped. But to that point, Joe, like,
I mean, over the next few weeks, the Bengals Baltimore, Atlanta,
Kansas City, Tampa Bay, there are matchups in there where
the Charges wan to run the ball they can.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
So Dobbins just to be clear too, really good game
against Cleveland. Then this past week against Tennessee fifteen for fifty,
So the arts per carry we're down a little bit
three point three. So the outlier seems like that Cleveland game,
PAP because before that you had three point four against
New Orleans, you had two point nine against Arizona and
three point eight. Like Dobbins really, you know, he had
some big explosive games to open the season in Week one.
(16:53):
In Week two, then's kind of been a little up
and down. I know the Cleveland game was a good
one most recently, but if you look at the month,
you know, work load, it's been a little spotty. Can
Edwards eat into that and is that also gonna hurt
JK Dobbins down the stretch run From a fancy perspective.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I think that's mostly the effect here, Joe. It's more
about what he does to JK. Dobbins value than about
really creating a lot of fantasy value on his own.
I just what I worry about is that Dobbins still
out snapped Gus Edwards thirty nine to fourteen this past week,
but gust had ten carries on fourteen snaps. When he
was in the game, they were handing him the ball,
(17:32):
so maybe that continues. But as Debro mentioned, like, there
is not a lot of pass catching upside here, and
I maybe worry about that schedule a little more than
Debro does for a guy who doesn't catch passes out
of the backfield. The Ravens aren't a good matchup, and
we know the Chiefs aren't a good matchup for any
running back, even Derrick Henry. So two of their next
(17:54):
let's see three matchups are pretty terrifying. So that would
kind of throw a little cold water that and the
snap count. I guess that's the reason I'm not ready
to drop a lot of money on Gus Edwards in
waivers this week?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Are you ring that point at Like it's the Bengals,
the Falcons and the Buccaneers, I'd be looking at his
plush rushing matchups for Edwards, I'd be staying away with
the other ones.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Just to clarify, you have to make some room on
rosters if you're gonna add anybody like Benson or Estimate
or Warren Jordan Mason one carry for five yards. Pat
you saw McCaffrey yesterday. I know he's the insurance policy,
so maybe if you have McCaffrey, he's still a keep.
But if you don't, do you drop him and chase
some of these guys on the wire?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Oh man, look, I know some people are in shallow
bench leagues show where they've got like four bench spots.
In that case, yes, but otherwise I don't know. Man,
this is arguably the most valuable handcuff running back in
the game, and he's handcuffed to a guy who's been
flying around to Germany for weird medical procedures. So I
kind of don't want to give up on that.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
That is the trick. I know a lot of this
is very circumstantial when it comes to Mason, but you
see the injury a couple of weeks ago, the disappointment there,
and then the bye week, and now the one carry
for five yards. People are gonna be looking at that,
and I think the reaction is going to be, Okay,
it's over, it's done, Debro. Do you want to pump
the brakes on that or do you want to move
(19:13):
on and just keep chasing the next that can help you?
Because again week twelve, Week fourteen, you're gonna need some
live bodies, and if Jordan Mason's getting one carry, that's
not a body you can use.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I think it depends on how you're viewing Mason versus
these other guys. Would I drop Mason for Estimate or Warren?
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Would I drop him for these other guys like Trey Benson, No,
because I feel like it's the same conversation. And then
it comes down to which offense do I want to
dive into more? Do I want the high end handcuff
if either one of these guys go down, Do I
want to be part of the forty.
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I mean, that's fair. That's what gave me light pause
(22:00):
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at the same time, who else is there? I don't
expect the Lobbie back anytime soon, if at all.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
No, and that's the thing with MBS is that is
he a trap in the sense that should we expect
these type of stat lines, which was to be honest, guys,
this was the most MVS type of box score ever,
only three targets. He goes for over a buck and
gets too toud easy. Yeah, so just crazy expecting that
type of output. Obviously nobody should be doing that. But
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in the terms of are a lot of people gonna
say immediately like we're saying on this show and say
oh it's MBS no, then you're probably gonna get him
for cheaper than when a lot of people think. And
he is one of the only like warm bodies left
of the room to catch passes. And we have seen
this offense, I mean function at a decent level. I
know weeks one and two feels so far away and
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I'm not saying that's coming back, but he's competing with
targets for.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Who moving forward? Well, next two matchups, so yeah, Browns
and the Rams yep.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Now, I mean the other thing about it is if
you wanted to draw up a good script for NBS
to I'm not gonna say reproduce this type of stat line,
but to stay fantasy relevant and as a high end
flex play, it's against the Browns and Rams, who are
both bottom six as far as deep passing yards allowed.
So again, if they suck versus deep passing play MBS. Okay, well,
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the next two matchups qualify Pat.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Here's my only other problem with that is too Yeah
he's got Cleveland, Yeah he's got the Rams, but in
between he's got a buy. So you're looking at the
stat line here in week nine against Carolina, one catch
on one target for five yards, and then yesterday three
catches on three targets for one on nine and two touchdowns.
Like it is is very possible you get those two
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catches for ten yards in this upcoming week. It happens,
and then he's useless to the next week to you
on the by, So is MVS a trap or like
Deebro's maybe suggesting, maybe people just don't even want to
deal with it, and you can get him for a
couple bucks, drive him this week and then churn a bird.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, this is very much. It depends on the texture
of your league. I know you guys like me play
in some leagues where it's like fourteen teams and like
three flex spots, And in a league like that, you
can afford to take a chance on a guy, a
high upside guy like MVS who probably has not put
up his last big stat line of the year, considering
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the depleted state of the Saints wide receiver corps right now.
But we also know that MVS is going to throw
up some air balls, like there are gonna be some
one catch for five yard games. So that level of
volatility you can maybe take in a league where you
have to start ten or eleven players every week and
there are a lot of teams. But if you're in
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a ten person or a twelve person league with shallow benches,
I don't think you want to get into the MVS business.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
All right, fair enough, there are some guys we got
to talk about getting into the business out Alec Pierce
and ad Mitchell, two guys from the Indianapolis Colts. I
know Pittman having his issues too, so that opened up
some here in the passing game. Pat Pierce is sixteen
percent rostered. Ady Mitchell same thing in that same range,
sixteen percent fifteen percent rostered. So your thoughts on these
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two cults wide receivers. I feel like every week we're
having some kind of cult wide receiver conversation on this show,
and that just kind of speaks to the inconsistency of
this offense. But where are you out with those two guys?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
And may be a little bit more interested in pierce
seven targets on Joe Flacco's thirty five throws yesterday, so
and they're obviously high value targets for Alec Pierce, who
runs deep routes. The thing is with with both Pierce
and Mitchell, there are two future events that could greatly
devalue both guys. One is the return of Michael Pittman Junior,
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which probably is inevitable pretty soon. The other is the
reinsertion of Anthony Richardson at quarterback, which I also think
is pretty inevitable because Joe Flacco is not taking them
on any sort of playoff draft. We're seeing the problem
with Joe Flacco, like he throws way too many Yola
balls and gets intercepted and sacked a lot, and those
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are just drive killers. And we're gonna see Richardson return
at some point. And when Pittman is back and Richardson
is at quarterback, Pearson and and I Mitchell are simply
unplayable in fantasy.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Well, I guess that's the question too, is like when
do we see Richardson back? Because you have the Jets
up next for Flacco and the Colts Detroit, New England
and the bye. So do we see him before or
after that? Buye Debro. I think it's after the bye.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I think that the Colts are not done taking their
medicine and apparently they need really really big spoonfuls of it.
And you know, enjoy the locker room, enjoy the non playoffs,
enjoy the Joe Flacco show.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Well, I mean, here's the thing. You go two and
three in those three games, and then you have the buye.
You're very much alive in the AFC playoff hunt. But
they're not and they didn't well they haven't played them.
They're not going yet's they're probably gonna lose to the
Lions and they're not going. But you could beat the Jets,
and I think we all know you could beat the
Jets and the Ingle Patriots. Joe Lecco, he can. I mean,
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I know my new Ingle Patriots won again this week,
upset special Ding ding Ding.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Let's go, trust me, Joe, They've they've upset some people
here in Chicago. I can assure you.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Oh man, let me tell you that was that was
so easy to get. If you're missing it, make sure
you're watching betting pros because Ericson and I circled that
game on the look Ahead Show on Monday last Monday,
and we were like, look, Patriots a cover seven points?
What he crazy? And it went to six. You know,
as the week went on and you know, a certain
point of like, let's just take him to win outright
at this point, and what do you know? They did
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it again. Give Drake made some weapons, folks, please, for
the love of God, all right, two more guys talk
about Ricky Pearsall, who I gotta say this was the
most surprising one to me. I thought Pearsall might be
a guy that would fade away Dee bro. He did
not fifty five percent rostered. He was a part of
this plan yesterday. That was a little surprising to me.
With McCaffrey back, with Debo on the field and Jennings
on the field, like Pearsall being a thing. Is that
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something that you think is sustainable.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
I think it's sustainable in the sense of I mean,
he got a sixteen percent target share, he had the
big play that he ripped off, got the seventy three
receiving yards, So I think his role in the offense
is sustainable. But the thing I want to talk about
here with Pearsall is the contingent upside, because we know
the talent is there, the draft pedigree, he's had time
to now assimilate to the offense. Now we have a
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game where we've actually seen him flash the talent that
we all know that he has. And if Kittle, who's
never been a picture of health or debo or oh
Chris McCaffrey misses any time, the Pearsall's position in this
target pecking order is going to do nothing but go up.
And the matchups are pretty good going forward. I mean
like Seattle, yes please, Green Bay has been up and
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down as a pass defense, and Buffalo understand is tough,
but again you're gonna have to put up points and
throw the freaking ball. So Piersaw is a guy that
I want on rosters. I think three to five percent
we'll probably get him if you don't already have him rostered.
And it's not only does he have that type of appeal. Again,
what if anything happens to Juwan Jennings.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
He's been in and out of the lineup this year.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
So either way anyway this goes, we know the floor
of Pearsaw, which we just saw kind of like this
last week. But the upside could be immense, and that
contingent value is something I want to bet on down
the stretch.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Do you think Piersall has upside?
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Deebro makes a great point about the contingent upside and
how his value could increase with an injury to anyone
else here. The only thing is as far as playing
him in Week eleven, I worry that he's probably only
going to play about two thirds of the offensive snaps.
That's kind of his ceiling since the forty nine ers
don't play, they play less three wide than most teams,
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and he's surrounded by other good pass catchers. Debo Jennings,
kid All McCaffrey. So I think I'm gonna have Pierce
All rank like in the forties item outside the top
fifty this past week, and he made one big play
and made that look bad. I'll probably have him in
the forties this week. Like, I just can't rank him
any higher based on his environment right now. But as
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Debro said, one injury could make his environment a lot more.
I don't know how it will look a lot better
and give him a lot of fantasy value.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Debro who has more disdain for kickers, me or Deebo
Samuel Holder. It was the holder he grabbed. He grabbed
the Holder and then at the same time turned around
and smacked Moody too, like he kind of did like
he kind of did the double, which was can I
say it's equal? I fly, I'll accept that. Mike Williams
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twenty rostered. We talked about it last week on the show.
He said, Hey, he's out there floating around on the
bye week, you know, after the trade deadline, and Deeber
and I on the Tuesday show when the trade deadline happened,
he said, Hey, Mike Williams are probably gonna throw up
the ball and Mike Williams will go get it, and
he did. Pat, It's not something again you want to chase.
So who would you rather have rest of season? Mike
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Williams or Marquez Valdis game Like go.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Mike Williams. Okay, Mike Williams christ Yeah, like great, the
higher pedigree. He's given us a couple of thousand yard seasons,
he's given us a ten touchdown season. I thought it
was really weird that the Steelers went out and got
a guy whose style is so similar to that of
George Pickens, Like these are both.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
These big, but that's all Russell Wilson's giving you, broo
guys throwing the balls like he's that. I know the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
He's down there somewhere the Steelers offensive formula. Run the
crap out of the ball and use play action to
hit these chuck plays downfield, like it is a wild,
old school nineteen seventies offense.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
But I just don't know why fields can't fields can
do the same thing. I just think he's afraid to
do that because he's like, this doesn't feel like a
good idea. But but with fields, not only could he
do all that I feel like, but he could also
give you that element of running the football. But I
don't know, man, Russell Wilson's three and O, what do
I know? De bro Mike Williams a MVS for you.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Oh, it's big, Mike, And I think you're gonna have
to pay, you know, around the same amount. I mean,
I think you can probably get Mike Williams for two
to three percent of your fab considering you know, we're
all looking at the fact that he only played nine snaps,
ran seven routes, and people are gonna say, well, I'm
not chasing that.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
But we talked about this on.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
The live stream, Joey, and I'll bring it up again here.
Like the upcoming schedule is fantastic for Mike Williams. Like
he's probably not gonna play a full time role against Baltimore,
but maybe that might not matter if he plays fifty
percent of the snaps and gets like.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Two deep targets.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
But the rest of the season's schedule looks really good, man,
Like Cleveland is not a pass defense that we should
fear anymore.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
They play them twice. Same with the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Okay, the Eagles are extremely tough, but then they get
the Ravens and they get the Chiefs again, so they're
gonna have to throw the ball and put up points.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
So yeah, like.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Pat Hit, the name on the head design of this
offense is russ Run, Run, Run, Run. Russell says, Eh,
he's down.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
There somewhere there he goes throw it. Coming back from
bye weeks. These guys who might be floating around your
waiver wire, Elijah Moore and Jerry Judy of the Cleveland
Browns more rostered in sixteen percent of leagues. Judy much
higher about sixty two. But again, you have a lot
of people making hard decisions last week at the last minute,
so check your waiver wire. Also on a bye Jalen
Coker this week of the Carolina Panthers, another guy you
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might be to slip in that waiver wire when you're
looking ahead to weeks twelve and fourteen. Maybe you got
to drop this week Jalen Tolbert, a player that we
had some hopes for, but with Dak Prescott's hamstring gotten
away and then the Cowboys season along with it. Debro,
is the time to Cup eight with Jalen Tolbert?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yep, Cooper Russia is not good and people got.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
A very U Is Trey Lance any good?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Good reminder?
Speaker 1 (33:39):
But about Trey Lance? Debro? No? No o kep uh?
Samsey's for you, Pat, Jalen Tobert done in dustin Yes,
okay yes?
Speaker 2 (33:48):
And Joe could I voice two quick concerns about good
boy story receive thank you just gonna. Debro has been
doing a great job of making this public service announcement
in our waiver article every week. If you're thinking about
getting Elijah Moore or Jerry Judy, just realize good matchup
against the Saints this week, but from week twelve to
week fifteen, the Browns play the Steelers, Broncos, Steelers again,
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and the Chiefs. So it is a pretty hellish run
of matchups there. And the one thing about Cocher and
maybe deebro worries about this less than I do, is
I think Adam Thelen could be ready to go coming
out of there week eleven by in which case does
that push Kohler Coker outside or do they have Thelan
play outside or did they split it? Because I like
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Bryce Young does target his slot receivers a lot, and
we saw that last year with Adam Thielen, who was
like what wide receiver six or something going into Thanksgiving
week in PPR leagues. But like, I don't want any
of the outside receivers in this offense really, so if
THELAN comes back and pushes Coker outside, that really devalues Coker.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I think Coker keeps the slot role and I think THELAN,
if anything, we could see like a fifty to fifty
for both. But I think Coker can play the out outside.
But Dude, the big thing I want to highlight about
Coker and I know the stat like I know if
people look at the box scores. They're gonna say, why
should I care about this guy? It's Bryce Young, dude,
he got a freaking thirty two percent target chair like
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that that plays like that type of volume and the
other thing about it. Wee could say, Okay, there's nobody
left and it's Bryce Young that's out targeting their first
round pick, Xavierly get by a large margin, and the
upcoming matchups are fantastic for slot wide receivers like Casey
very good versus the perimeter, the Bucks very decent versus
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the perimeter. But yet they've allowed the second and third
most Fantasy points per game to opposing slot wide receivers.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, and the Carolina Panthers are streaking right now, two
wins in a row. Everybody, look out. Let's go all right,
let's get to some of the streamers for Week eleven.
Debro kick us off with a QB. You want to stream?
You need to redeem yourself because last week you gave
everybody out and actors and I told you that was
a dumb idea, but you didn't listen to me. No,
So redeem yourself. Where are you going this on that
(36:02):
L I knew I was gonna get the smoke today.
I was saving it. We were saving it. Look, I
deserve it, and so the Jets they deserve it. The
season is done. Football in New York done not so
great these days.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
It's it's bad to Adams dropping passes in the end zone.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
It's not good. Not good.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
But two quarterbacks that will lead you to fantasy points.
This week, we're gonna go back to the well Man.
We thought we've made jokes, We've talked about it. But
Russell Wilson throwing yolo balls against a bottom three pass
defense for the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yes, please, I like this one much better. I don't worry.
I think that's gonna be okay. Thanks for you, FITZI.
You're targeting a guy against the Atlanta Falcons, Bo Nicks.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
He's just become such a reliable point producer. Top matchup
against the Chiefs, and he was like really efficient as
a passer, didn't run much, but gave us two hundred
and fifteen yards two touchdowns. Oh and by the way,
he's playing the Atlanta Falcons, the team that just made
Marquez Valdez Scantling look like Randy so.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Pat Was it weird to say bo Nick's very reliable
fantasy point getter, like the.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Goodness, but man, you go back over the last six weeks,
he's got to be like top eight for.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Since week five, QB eight, QB nine, QB eighteen, okay,
and not so good then QB two, QB fifteen, QB twelve.
So he's right on that one, a tier man like
he's a guy you should be stabishing right now. Good
Daniel Jones, He is good. Daniel Jones. Good Daniel Jones.
How about a tight end to stream this week? Patty?
How you got?
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (37:34):
John new Smith against the Raiders? Good matchup and it
seems like two a tongue of Vello's strategy of getting
the ball out quickly greatly benefits John new Smith. Yeah,
and again the Raiders are very generous the tight ends.
It seems like he could be a good streamer for
a week eleven.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
De bro tight end for week eleven. So this one
comes with context.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
But I want people monitoring this because he is going
to be ranked and Sara my top twelve tight ends
for the week if Dalton Kinkaid is out and that
is Dawson Knox. The matchup, I mean, we know that
Buffalo's going to throw the ball. It's Josh Allen led offense.
All of that is definitively true. The Kansas City Chiefs
are a top shelf matchup for titands. They're one of
the second most fantasy points per game and the most
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receiving yards per game to the position, and as well
as Kean Coleman Amari Cooper. They even play, so the
target tree has been pruned a few limbs, so Dawson
Knox could walk away with a very good game.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
All right, let's go to the defenses to stream for
a week eleven debro. Who do you have?
Speaker 3 (38:35):
I want pressure, I want turnovers? And this is a
low key, great, great option. I can't even believe they're
still out there. Man, the Rams versus the Patriots only
twenty two percent rostered their top three in pressure rate
and QB hurry rate.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
And oh guess what.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Drake Mays a rookie and he has faced the highest
pressure rate in the NFL this year, So yes, the
Rams are a fantastic option.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Pat Speaking of turnovers, the Houston Texans create a lot
of turnovers, couldn't win the football game on it, so
they're available this week. You want to stream them.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yes, they created five turnovers with the interceptions, Joe. They're
number two in defensive DVOA. Going into week ten, they
were number five in pressure rate, number six and sex
And get this for their upcoming schedule for the Texans,
the Dallas Cowboys, yes please, uh, the Tennessee Titans, and
the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
So yeah, their next three quarterbacks. It looks like they
could be facing Trey Lance, Will Levis and Mac Jones.
So I'm going the extra buck or two wins.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
I'll say it, Pat has the better streamer.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
I'll spend three bucks on the Texans and not have
to worry about defense Thanksgiving week.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Like you gave us the Lions on that schedule, I
think a couple weeks ago the Broncos on one of
them earlier.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Like, yeah, I'm a lazy I'm a lazy man, Joe.
I don't want to have to stream a defense every
single week. I just want to set it and forget
it for like three weeks and not have to do anyth.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Wonderful schedule at bad quarterback. Let's go for kicker here, Pat,
who do you.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Have Jason Sanders versus the Raiders again, good matchup, and
in the two games since Tua came back, Sanders has
had two field goals and three extra points in both
of those games.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
De bro Kicker, call me a sucker for a feel
good story, Baby shake Bates, give me him. Detroit's gonna
be in the red zone and they're gonna be in
kicking range often against Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Yeah, but then Dan Campbell is going to go for it.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Unfortunate, but now.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
He's got Now now we know that bats. He he's
got that fifty yr plus leg. Like they talked about
this on the podcast. He's like, didn't want to sit
here and put too many uh, too many long shots
onto the kids shoulders.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
He hit two of them last week. I know, I know,
barely barely good on the Lions, like the teams. You know,
people want to give the Lions crap because go thro
all those picks. They won the game. People want to
give the Chiefs crap they blocked the kick, they won
the game. You know, these teams play all three phases offense, defense,
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special teams. You give yourself a much better chance to
win football games. And you can hate it all you want.
You can say it's luck. Whatever it is. When you
are good in all three aspects, you are giving yourself
a much better chance to have the record that the
teams like the Lions and the Chiefs have, So you
can hate them all you want. That's good football. Sorry
you referee, shut up. It's stop it. This is good football.
This is preparation, this is work ethic, this is personnel,
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this is top to bottom good organizational. I think that's
called grit. It's all of it, It's all the above,
and those two teams have it, which is why already
bet them both in the super Bowl before to go
at it, and I double down on it in my
it's halfway evaluation in week nine, Well, I was like,
this is it. I still don't see two teams from
either conference that are going to match these guys. And
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I think both of them can have the one seed.
And when they have the one seed, it's a much
easier path two long games after a bye to the
super Bowl. More often than not, that is a tough
thing to stop. All right, Let's get to the Waiver
Wire ads of the week. FITZI. Who's the top five
for Week eleven?
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Jalen Warren Number one, Audric estimated number two. Number three,
Quintin Johnston still widely available, big fast, tied to a
good quarterback, has shown an aptitude for scoring a lot
of touchdowns. I like all those things. Shoe number four
guy we didn't really talk about.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Tai J.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Spears who came back in week ten, got a pretty
good amount of work. Tony Pollard not fully healthy, and
I loved what I saw from Tai J. Spears in
twenty twenty three, so I'm interested in adding him and
Ricky Piersaw, as Debro mentioned, a lot of contingent upside there.
He's number five.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Yeah, I know, Spears was in the sixty percents in
sleeper QJ is at fifty nine, so check him out, folks.
I mean that was a guy who's our Waiver Oar
pickup of the week last week and guess way another
touchdown this week. So Deebro, give me your top five
four week eleven.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
I'm going to pound the table for Aldric estimated number one,
Jalen Warren number two, Ricky Pearsaw with that contingent upside
number three, and then we're going to the slot wide
receivers at score points, Jalen Cocher number four, and a
lot more.
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Welcome in everybody to Fantasy pros. This is the Fantasy
Football Podcast. It is be Joey p Joe Pi's Apia
and welcome to week eleven on the waiver Wire, of course,
to help us get all the right players on all
the right rosters. De Bro, Derek Brown and the King of
Bros and my Patty Cakes Pat fitz Morris. We have
a couple teams on by this week, and it was
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another fun week of NFL football. Some odd quarterback play too,
and by odd, I mean bad. Lots of interceptions, lots
of guys under two hundred yards. It was ugly in
those passing streets. It looked like all the best football
seemed to happen on Thursday night.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Pat It did soun interesting stat today, Joe about Jared Goff.
So he threw five interceptions the Lions still won. If
you had to guess, how many quarterbacks in the Super
Bowl era have thrown five interceptions in a game and
still won.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Oh, I'm gonna say one.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Oh, de Bro, I'm gonna say Jared Goff is the
only one here.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
You go, Because I believe it or not, Jared Goff
was the tenth quarterback to be I was shocked by that,
and hat tipped to the people at Good Morning Football,
they were the ones who dropped that stat. But you
would think that while won, five interceptions seriously derails your
chances of winning the game, and five interceptions would also
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highly increase your chances of getting benched and not being
around for the end of the game. So yeah, I
was shocked the number was that significant.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I think that is the more interesting point, right there,
Guys under two hundred yards yesterday. Let's see Russell Wilson,
Daniel Jones, Drake may will Levs, Justin Herbert, Aaron Rodgers,
Nice Young Caleb Williams, Baker Mayfield, Mac Jones, Cooper Rush.
I don't think I need to go any further, but yeah,
it was not a great day for passing the football.
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But that's okay everybody, because we press on and hopefully
week eleven we'll get a little bit more through the
air and certainly some more on the ground. Before we
get to the names to add and the waiver wire
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wire pickup of the week. A guy that we talked
about last week who was not available on a bye right,
but we said, hey, good time to add some people here.
See what you get and guess what, the roster percentage
did not move that much. He is just fifty four
percent rostered. He was back yesterday fourteen rushes, sixty six yards,
two catches for twenty nine. He is Jalen Warren of
the Pittsburgh Steelers. Now, looking at Jalen Warren's schedule ahead, boys,
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the reason why I was putting him at the top
of the list for me personally is I look at
some of these games ahead for the Steelers and I
know they're three and o with Russell Wilson. They're flying high.
Big win in Washington, you get Baltimore, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Cleveland again,
Philly and Baltimore again. That's a lot of defenses you
can throw the football against. And he's also passed the
by now, which with weeks twelve and fourteen looming in
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the near future, to me, that's a very valuable flex
slash RB two.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
To have pat and Najie Harris to stay in some
sort of ankle injury yesterday, So that's going to enhance
Jalen Warren's role, you would think, at least for this
coming week. Certainly Corderol Patterson will help take up some
of the slack two. But you know, the Ravens are
a difficult matchup in the running game, not so much
in the passing game for running backs. They do really
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give it up to pass catching rbs, and maybe more
so this coming week because they lost Kyle Hamilton to
an ankle injury and that Thursday night game Hamilton was
a big part of their pass defense against running backs.
So yeah, I mean, this is certainly a pretty bright
usage outlook I would say for Jalen Warren this week.
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And I know he's not available in every league, but
if he is available in your league, you know, even
if it's a shallow ten team league, I think he's
worth string and maybe.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
You know, flexing even in a shallow league this week. Yeah.
I know on some of the other you know, football
services like Yahoo and some other places, that ross percent
is a little less again, especially coming off the buy
and check your league too, because a lot of people
had a lot of injuries this week where they had
to make these hard decisions like well, I need somebody
to stream right now when Jalen Warren isn't one of
those guys, so I need to drop him to pick
up somebody else that circumstance might be out there. He
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also might be some you know, a piece you could
be re acquiring a trade too, But Warren a piece
where I think you see that role continue to grow
a little bit. And you know, as they added Mike Williams,
we'll talk a little bit more about him. You know,
certainly the offense is starting to open up a little
bit here and that's also a good thing for Jalen
Warren's future here. But Deebro, I want to get your
take on Warren. I know, a player that you're historically
(05:46):
high on and what his role might be here down
the stretch.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeh In he's a weekly flex play with RB two
upside if he gets in the end zone. Like last week,
look at the stat line that he had, guys, and
that was with Naji playing that type of stat line.
You had a touchdown on top of that we're talking about.
He walks away as an RB two for the week.
So this is agnostic of he needs to be a
major pickup for people if he's out there, So scour
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then try to get him included in a trade because
the deadline's coming up. Because yeah, he's an RB three weekly,
he's an RB two if he ever scores a touchdown,
and if Nause is out for any amount of time,
he's an RB two with RB one upside.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, and then that would be the huge thing there.
I just keep on back to the schedule too. I
think there's a lot of good matchups where the game
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Speaker 1 (08:10):
There was a guy who was fighting for the crown
of Waiver Wire out of the Week for Week eleven.
He felt a little short. We had a little debate
about it before the show. Now we're gonna have a
little debate on the show. Audrick Estime of the Denver
Broncos just seven percent rostered. We've been hearing increased workload,
increased workload. Things were gonna go a little bit better
for him. And then this week against the Chiefs, a
(08:32):
very tough run defense. Audrich Estim really kind of was
the guy. Now, Javonte Williams isn't gone, He is not out.
There's nothing like that. So Debro the schedule also good
for him. But for me, the big deciding factor between
Estimate and Warren, if they are both available in your league,
is one's already passed his buy and one in Jalen
(08:52):
Warren passed the by and you kind of know what
his role is in the offense. It's still some ifs
for me, although estime, I think is going to be
bit on very aggressively, especially by teams that need RB help.
So give me your take on estimate what you saw
yesterday and what you think you're gonna see from him
in these next few weeks.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I mean, right now, he's an RB three like flex
play looking at the role that he got last week,
playing forty six percent of the snaps, he ran eight routes.
Javonte still ran ten, So this wasn't a full takeover
the backfield, but it was pretty damn close to it.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
He got all the short.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yardage work, finishing with fourteen carries and fifty three rushing yards.
I mean, if he's going to be the early down
hammer for Denver's offense, I really like him. And I
know we were talking about this like before the show,
and I was, I mean really kind of like pounding
the table for him because the schedule upcoming man is
fantastic and he's out there in so many different leagues
(09:45):
that yeah, I mean, he could be a plug and
play RB two down the stretch, Like, are you tell
me this guys.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
You're so excited there for a second. You actually I
know myself, I just myself. Okay for a little temperature checker, right, Okay, Well,
I don't want you to get too excited. He's got
a lie of show left to do, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Look at this schedule, Okay, Atlanta, Las Vegas, Cleveland, and Indy.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Are you scared of any of those run defenses? Guys?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Are Do we think the Denver's run it like their
defense is going to put them in positive gamescripts? Those
are all good matchups.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, and the Denver Broncos have exceeded. I think a
lot of people's expectations, especially early on, things were a
little rough there. Uh. Pat, I don't know if you're
quite as six to midnight as Derek Brown is on
audric Est to May. But are you of that same
mind in terms of aggression, Cause let's talk about it, like,
is this a player that you are? You know you're
looking at the stretch run here, You're emptying the clip
on this guy, because hey, if he does take over
(10:43):
that number one role in that backfield, this could be
a huge difference maker between making or missing the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I don't think that Odric Estimae is a gift from
the fantasy gods. Like Tyrone Tracy was a guy who
you need to have in your lineup everywhere. Tyrone Tracy
is there for sure. I don't know if Audric Estime
is going to quite reach that threshold of fantasy value,
but it does look like he has taken over as
the early down back. He outsnapped Javonte Williams twenty six
(11:12):
to sixteen on Sunday, and I carried him fourteen to one.
And you would think Javonte and possibly Julia McLoughlin won't
disappear completely because the running backs as pass catchers have
always been so essential to the Sean Payton offense, although
maybe a little less so this year simply because bo
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Nicks scrambles and scrambling quarterbacks check down to their running
backs less, and obviously bo Nicks is a lot more
mobile than Drew Brees used to be. So I don't
think Javante and McLoughlin are going to disappear completely, but
there is still a lot of value to having a
thumper like Oudric estimated boy, he is a thumper. That
final college season at Notre Dame thirteen hundred rushing yards,
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eighteen touchdown runs. This guy knows what to do when
he gets inside the five yard line. So that's got
a lot of appeal. And you know, Joe, some people
are really up against it at running back with the
bye weeks. I know in one league where I didn't
have Brian Robinson this week, I just start Blake Koram
in a league this week. So if you're in a
position like that, yes, I would have loved to have
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Audric Estimee chiming in with what he gave me versus
what I expect to get from Blake Koram on Monday night.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
There's another guy, And I'm glad we have all these
running backs to talk about because it's been kind of rough,
like last week was not a great weekday adding running backs.
But this week seems much better. Trey Benson, I want
to talk about him for a second. He is available
in seventy five percent of leagues right now. Over on
sleeper Benson rush the ball ten times for sixty two,
caught two passes for twenty five. James Connor wasn't really efficient,
right He had just two point eight yards per carry
(12:43):
on Sunday, So Benson was finding a little bit more
success against the Jets defense, which we've heard a lot
of tales about how good it is. So Benson seems
like another guy too that you talk about the stuff
in a cuff and season we're getting very close. Now
we're in we'll see the eleventh of November as of
recording is Benson seems like a guy there should be
rostered in a higher percentage than he is if something
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should happen to James Connor, or if James Connor might
be running out of gas at this juncture in the
season too, because as a guy who has missed some time, historically,
full seasons in James Connor don't always go together. So
I'm not sure exactly what the future holes for Trey Benson,
but Patt, it seems like that ross percentage, just on
principle should be higher by now.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
High end handcuff Trey Benson should be considered, and I
don't think their standalone value. Although this was not entirely
garbage time production in the Cardinals decisive win over the Jets,
there was some of that, but I think they do
sort of want to spell James Connor a little bit
since he's an older back with as you mentioned, Joe
that extensive injury history, so makes sense to not, you know,
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work James Connor for twenty five touches every week. And
earlier in the season there was some ambiguity about who
actually was the backup because Imari di Mercato was either
playing ahead of Benson or sort of splitting the backup
duty with him. I think I think now Benson is
the guy. Like they still give de Mercado a few snaps,
but it's pretty much the Trey Benson show behind James conn.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
And they are the first place Cardinals. This is a
team that right now has designs. You know, when I
did the on the Playoffs, when I did the Black
Book this year, we talked about the offensive ecosystems and
I was looking for the outlier, and the one outlier
to me that the team that didn't have all the
right pieces necessarily but could outperform was the Cardinals, and
so far they have. Benson was also deebro the guy
(14:29):
that I remember Ladanian Tomlinson talking on an interview and
he circled him as that was his favorite back and
I always listen little things like that kind of you know,
percolate in my head when I hear somebody of greatness
see somebody and give you a take on them because
they know what it looks like. I don't know what
the future holds for this player long term, but when
greatness says that guy is one to watch, I want
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to listen and want to keep that in my back pocket.
Is Benson a guy you want the back pocket a
year roster? Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Absolutely, He's a high end handcuff And like we've talked
about the the show plenty of times, we've reached the
point of the season where you need to be insulating
rosters with high end handcuffs. Yeah, as far as like
handcuffing your own running backs if you have the bench
space and stuff. And I mean, if anything happens to
James Connor, Trey Benson's league winner. Looking at his schedule
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Seattle Seahawks, the Vikings, Seahawks, Patriots, Panthers, and Rams, there
isn't a team left on that schedule that you can't
run the ball against. And Trey Benson would be getting
workhorse opportunity now.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Speaking to run the ball, the Chargers like to run
the ball. Gus Edwards came back and Gus Edwards got
a lot more work than I think a lot of
us might have thought. Ten carries for fifty five yards
looked fresh, which is good because Dobbins has looked not
so fresh. I would say in the last couple of
games he is only nineteen percent roster. Would you put
him in this whole? You know, like, hey, you could
do worse than Gus Edwards in these next couple of
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weeks if you have to flex him and he's going
to get some work because of the style of this offense.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Hebro Yeah, I think he falls into he's a little
bit lower than these other guys only because we know
that Gus Edwards is not going to get passing now
work and this backfield would be split up. So I
think there's a division of tiers for these guys, and
I think Gus is like that second or third tier
kind of guy only because we know those are limitations
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and full stop limitations to his game. So the upside
is kind of capped. But to that point, Joe, like,
I mean, over the next few weeks, the Bengals Baltimore, Atlanta,
Kansas City, Tampa Bay, there are matchups in there where
the Charges wan to run the ball they can.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
So Dobbins just to be clear too, really good game
against Cleveland. Then this past week against Tennessee fifteen for fifty,
So the arts per carry we're down a little bit
three point three. So the outlier seems like that Cleveland game,
PAP because before that you had three point four against
New Orleans, you had two point nine against Arizona and
three point eight. Like Dobbins really, you know, he had
some big explosive games to open the season in Week one.
(16:53):
In Week two, then's kind of been a little up
and down. I know the Cleveland game was a good
one most recently, but if you look at the month,
you know, work load, it's been a little spotty. Can
Edwards eat into that and is that also gonna hurt
JK Dobbins down the stretch run From a fancy perspective.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I think that's mostly the effect here, Joe. It's more
about what he does to JK. Dobbins value than about
really creating a lot of fantasy value on his own.
I just what I worry about is that Dobbins still
out snapped Gus Edwards thirty nine to fourteen this past week,
but gust had ten carries on fourteen snaps. When he
was in the game, they were handing him the ball,
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so maybe that continues. But as Debro mentioned, like, there
is not a lot of pass catching upside here, and
I maybe worry about that schedule a little more than
Debro does for a guy who doesn't catch passes out
of the backfield. The Ravens aren't a good matchup, and
we know the Chiefs aren't a good matchup for any
running back, even Derrick Henry. So two of their next
(17:54):
let's see three matchups are pretty terrifying. So that would
kind of throw a little cold water that and the
snap count. I guess that's the reason I'm not ready
to drop a lot of money on Gus Edwards in
waivers this week?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Are you ring that point at Like it's the Bengals,
the Falcons and the Buccaneers, I'd be looking at his
plush rushing matchups for Edwards, I'd be staying away with
the other ones.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Just to clarify, you have to make some room on
rosters if you're gonna add anybody like Benson or Estimate
or Warren Jordan Mason one carry for five yards. Pat
you saw McCaffrey yesterday. I know he's the insurance policy,
so maybe if you have McCaffrey, he's still a keep.
But if you don't, do you drop him and chase
some of these guys on the wire?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Oh man, look, I know some people are in shallow
bench leagues show where they've got like four bench spots.
In that case, yes, but otherwise I don't know. Man,
this is arguably the most valuable handcuff running back in
the game, and he's handcuffed to a guy who's been
flying around to Germany for weird medical procedures. So I
kind of don't want to give up on that.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
That is the trick. I know a lot of this
is very circumstantial when it comes to Mason, but you
see the injury a couple of weeks ago, the disappointment there,
and then the bye week, and now the one carry
for five yards. People are gonna be looking at that,
and I think the reaction is going to be, Okay,
it's over, it's done, Debro. Do you want to pump
the brakes on that or do you want to move
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on and just keep chasing the next that can help you?
Because again week twelve, Week fourteen, you're gonna need some
live bodies, and if Jordan Mason's getting one carry, that's
not a body you can use.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I think it depends on how you're viewing Mason versus
these other guys. Would I drop Mason for Estimate or Warren?
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Would I drop him for these other guys like Trey Benson, No,
because I feel like it's the same conversation. And then
it comes down to which offense do I want to
dive into more? Do I want the high end handcuff
if either one of these guys go down, Do I
want to be part of the forty.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
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to the wide receivers. And I got to start with
the trap of the week here. I mean, I just
got to because when a guy has three catches and
two of them are for touchdowns from Derek Carr and
the New Orleans Saints, it feels like a trap. It
feels like I am just standing over a rug and
there really is nothing under there, and it's going to
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be a very Looney Tunes moment where my feet kind
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then I just plummet to my demise Marquez Valdez scantling debro.
Is he a trap? Or is he the only live
body left in New Orleans? You make the call. Can
the answer be yes to both? It can? It can mean?
I mean, that's fair. That's what gave me light pause
(22:00):
is saying, well, he's a trap because it's MVS and
we know the history of MVS is and ury. Yet
at the same time, who else is there? I don't
expect the Lobbie back anytime soon, if at all.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
No, and that's the thing with MBS is that is
he a trap in the sense that should we expect
these type of stat lines, which was to be honest, guys,
this was the most MVS type of box score ever,
only three targets. He goes for over a buck and
gets too toud easy. Yeah, so just crazy expecting that
type of output. Obviously nobody should be doing that. But
(22:34):
in the terms of are a lot of people gonna
say immediately like we're saying on this show and say
oh it's MBS no, then you're probably gonna get him
for cheaper than when a lot of people think. And
he is one of the only like warm bodies left
of the room to catch passes. And we have seen
this offense, I mean function at a decent level. I
know weeks one and two feels so far away and
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I'm not saying that's coming back, but he's competing with
targets for.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Who moving forward? Well, next two matchups, so yeah, Browns
and the Rams yep.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Now, I mean the other thing about it is if
you wanted to draw up a good script for NBS
to I'm not gonna say reproduce this type of stat line,
but to stay fantasy relevant and as a high end
flex play, it's against the Browns and Rams, who are
both bottom six as far as deep passing yards allowed.
So again, if they suck versus deep passing play MBS. Okay, well,
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the next two matchups qualify Pat.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Here's my only other problem with that is too Yeah
he's got Cleveland, Yeah he's got the Rams, but in
between he's got a buy. So you're looking at the
stat line here in week nine against Carolina, one catch
on one target for five yards, and then yesterday three
catches on three targets for one on nine and two touchdowns.
Like it is is very possible you get those two
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catches for ten yards in this upcoming week. It happens,
and then he's useless to the next week to you
on the by, So is MVS a trap or like
Deebro's maybe suggesting, maybe people just don't even want to
deal with it, and you can get him for a
couple bucks, drive him this week and then churn a bird.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, this is very much. It depends on the texture
of your league. I know you guys like me play
in some leagues where it's like fourteen teams and like
three flex spots, And in a league like that, you
can afford to take a chance on a guy, a
high upside guy like MVS who probably has not put
up his last big stat line of the year, considering
(24:30):
the depleted state of the Saints wide receiver corps right now.
But we also know that MVS is going to throw
up some air balls, like there are gonna be some
one catch for five yard games. So that level of
volatility you can maybe take in a league where you
have to start ten or eleven players every week and
there are a lot of teams. But if you're in
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a ten person or a twelve person league with shallow benches,
I don't think you want to get into the MVS business.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
All right, fair enough, there are some guys we got
to talk about getting into the business out Alec Pierce
and ad Mitchell, two guys from the Indianapolis Colts. I
know Pittman having his issues too, so that opened up
some here in the passing game. Pat Pierce is sixteen
percent rostered. Ady Mitchell same thing in that same range,
sixteen percent fifteen percent rostered. So your thoughts on these
(25:19):
two cults wide receivers. I feel like every week we're
having some kind of cult wide receiver conversation on this show,
and that just kind of speaks to the inconsistency of
this offense. But where are you out with those two guys?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
And may be a little bit more interested in pierce
seven targets on Joe Flacco's thirty five throws yesterday, so
and they're obviously high value targets for Alec Pierce, who
runs deep routes. The thing is with with both Pierce
and Mitchell, there are two future events that could greatly
devalue both guys. One is the return of Michael Pittman Junior,
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which probably is inevitable pretty soon. The other is the
reinsertion of Anthony Richardson at quarterback, which I also think
is pretty inevitable because Joe Flacco is not taking them
on any sort of playoff draft. We're seeing the problem
with Joe Flacco, like he throws way too many Yola
balls and gets intercepted and sacked a lot, and those
(26:13):
are just drive killers. And we're gonna see Richardson return
at some point. And when Pittman is back and Richardson
is at quarterback, Pearson and and I Mitchell are simply
unplayable in fantasy.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Well, I guess that's the question too, is like when
do we see Richardson back? Because you have the Jets
up next for Flacco and the Colts Detroit, New England
and the bye. So do we see him before or
after that? Buye Debro. I think it's after the bye.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I think that the Colts are not done taking their
medicine and apparently they need really really big spoonfuls of it.
And you know, enjoy the locker room, enjoy the non playoffs,
enjoy the Joe Flacco show.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Well, I mean, here's the thing. You go two and
three in those three games, and then you have the buye.
You're very much alive in the AFC playoff hunt. But
they're not and they didn't well they haven't played them.
They're not going yet's they're probably gonna lose to the
Lions and they're not going. But you could beat the Jets,
and I think we all know you could beat the
Jets and the Ingle Patriots. Joe Lecco, he can. I mean,
(27:11):
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Speaker 2 (27:16):
Let's go, trust me, Joe, They've they've upset some people
here in Chicago. I can assure you.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Oh man, let me tell you that was that was
so easy to get. If you're missing it, make sure
you're watching betting pros because Ericson and I circled that
game on the look Ahead Show on Monday last Monday,
and we were like, look, Patriots a cover seven points?
What he crazy? And it went to six. You know,
as the week went on and you know, a certain
point of like, let's just take him to win outright
at this point, and what do you know? They did
(27:42):
it again. Give Drake made some weapons, folks, please, for
the love of God, all right, two more guys talk
about Ricky Pearsall, who I gotta say this was the
most surprising one to me. I thought Pearsall might be
a guy that would fade away Dee bro. He did
not fifty five percent rostered. He was a part of
this plan yesterday. That was a little surprising to me.
With McCaffrey back, with Debo on the field and Jennings
on the field, like Pearsall being a thing. Is that
(28:04):
something that you think is sustainable.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
I think it's sustainable in the sense of I mean,
he got a sixteen percent target share, he had the
big play that he ripped off, got the seventy three
receiving yards, So I think his role in the offense
is sustainable. But the thing I want to talk about
here with Pearsall is the contingent upside, because we know
the talent is there, the draft pedigree, he's had time
to now assimilate to the offense. Now we have a
(28:27):
game where we've actually seen him flash the talent that
we all know that he has. And if Kittle, who's
never been a picture of health or debo or oh
Chris McCaffrey misses any time, the Pearsall's position in this
target pecking order is going to do nothing but go up.
And the matchups are pretty good going forward. I mean
like Seattle, yes please, Green Bay has been up and
(28:50):
down as a pass defense, and Buffalo understand is tough,
but again you're gonna have to put up points and
throw the freaking ball. So Piersaw is a guy that
I want on rosters. I think three to five percent
we'll probably get him if you don't already have him rostered.
And it's not only does he have that type of appeal. Again,
what if anything happens to Juwan Jennings.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
He's been in and out of the lineup this year.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
So either way anyway this goes, we know the floor
of Pearsaw, which we just saw kind of like this
last week. But the upside could be immense, and that
contingent value is something I want to bet on down
the stretch.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Do you think Piersall has upside?
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Deebro makes a great point about the contingent upside and
how his value could increase with an injury to anyone
else here. The only thing is as far as playing
him in Week eleven, I worry that he's probably only
going to play about two thirds of the offensive snaps.
That's kind of his ceiling since the forty nine ers
don't play, they play less three wide than most teams,
(29:46):
and he's surrounded by other good pass catchers. Debo Jennings,
kid All McCaffrey. So I think I'm gonna have Pierce
All rank like in the forties item outside the top
fifty this past week, and he made one big play
and made that look bad. I'll probably have him in
the forties this week. Like, I just can't rank him
any higher based on his environment right now. But as
(30:07):
Debro said, one injury could make his environment a lot more.
I don't know how it will look a lot better
and give him a lot of fantasy value.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Debro who has more disdain for kickers, me or Deebo
Samuel Holder. It was the holder he grabbed. He grabbed
the Holder and then at the same time turned around
and smacked Moody too, like he kind of did like
he kind of did the double, which was can I
say it's equal? I fly, I'll accept that. Mike Williams
(30:37):
twenty rostered. We talked about it last week on the show.
He said, Hey, he's out there floating around on the
bye week, you know, after the trade deadline, and Deeber
and I on the Tuesday show when the trade deadline happened,
he said, Hey, Mike Williams are probably gonna throw up
the ball and Mike Williams will go get it, and
he did. Pat, It's not something again you want to chase.
So who would you rather have rest of season? Mike
(30:58):
Williams or Marquez Valdis game Like go.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Mike Williams. Okay, Mike Williams christ Yeah, like great, the
higher pedigree. He's given us a couple of thousand yard seasons,
he's given us a ten touchdown season. I thought it
was really weird that the Steelers went out and got
a guy whose style is so similar to that of
George Pickens, Like these are both.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
These big, but that's all Russell Wilson's giving you, broo
guys throwing the balls like he's that. I know the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
He's down there somewhere the Steelers offensive formula. Run the
crap out of the ball and use play action to
hit these chuck plays downfield, like it is a wild,
old school nineteen seventies offense.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
But I just don't know why fields can't fields can
do the same thing. I just think he's afraid to
do that because he's like, this doesn't feel like a
good idea. But but with fields, not only could he
do all that I feel like, but he could also
give you that element of running the football. But I
don't know, man, Russell Wilson's three and O, what do
I know? De bro Mike Williams a MVS for you.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Oh, it's big, Mike, And I think you're gonna have
to pay, you know, around the same amount. I mean,
I think you can probably get Mike Williams for two
to three percent of your fab considering you know, we're
all looking at the fact that he only played nine snaps,
ran seven routes, and people are gonna say, well, I'm
not chasing that.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
But we talked about this on.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
The live stream, Joey, and I'll bring it up again here.
Like the upcoming schedule is fantastic for Mike Williams. Like
he's probably not gonna play a full time role against Baltimore,
but maybe that might not matter if he plays fifty
percent of the snaps and gets like.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Two deep targets.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
But the rest of the season's schedule looks really good, man,
Like Cleveland is not a pass defense that we should
fear anymore.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
They play them twice. Same with the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Okay, the Eagles are extremely tough, but then they get
the Ravens and they get the Chiefs again, so they're
gonna have to throw the ball and put up points.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
So yeah, like.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Pat Hit, the name on the head design of this
offense is russ Run, Run, Run, Run. Russell says, Eh,
he's down.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
There somewhere there he goes throw it. Coming back from
bye weeks. These guys who might be floating around your
waiver wire, Elijah Moore and Jerry Judy of the Cleveland
Browns more rostered in sixteen percent of leagues. Judy much
higher about sixty two. But again, you have a lot
of people making hard decisions last week at the last minute,
so check your waiver wire. Also on a bye Jalen
Coker this week of the Carolina Panthers, another guy you
(33:17):
might be to slip in that waiver wire when you're
looking ahead to weeks twelve and fourteen. Maybe you got
to drop this week Jalen Tolbert, a player that we
had some hopes for, but with Dak Prescott's hamstring gotten
away and then the Cowboys season along with it. Debro,
is the time to Cup eight with Jalen Tolbert?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yep, Cooper Russia is not good and people got.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
A very U Is Trey Lance any good?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Good reminder?
Speaker 1 (33:39):
But about Trey Lance? Debro? No? No o kep uh?
Samsey's for you, Pat, Jalen Tobert done in dustin Yes,
okay yes?
Speaker 2 (33:48):
And Joe could I voice two quick concerns about good
boy story receive thank you just gonna. Debro has been
doing a great job of making this public service announcement
in our waiver article every week. If you're thinking about
getting Elijah Moore or Jerry Judy, just realize good matchup
against the Saints this week, but from week twelve to
week fifteen, the Browns play the Steelers, Broncos, Steelers again,
(34:12):
and the Chiefs. So it is a pretty hellish run
of matchups there. And the one thing about Cocher and
maybe deebro worries about this less than I do, is
I think Adam Thelen could be ready to go coming
out of there week eleven by in which case does
that push Kohler Coker outside or do they have Thelan
play outside or did they split it? Because I like
(34:34):
Bryce Young does target his slot receivers a lot, and
we saw that last year with Adam Thielen, who was
like what wide receiver six or something going into Thanksgiving
week in PPR leagues. But like, I don't want any
of the outside receivers in this offense really, so if
THELAN comes back and pushes Coker outside, that really devalues Coker.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I think Coker keeps the slot role and I think THELAN,
if anything, we could see like a fifty to fifty
for both. But I think Coker can play the out outside.
But Dude, the big thing I want to highlight about
Coker and I know the stat like I know if
people look at the box scores. They're gonna say, why
should I care about this guy? It's Bryce Young, dude,
he got a freaking thirty two percent target chair like
(35:14):
that that plays like that type of volume and the
other thing about it. Wee could say, Okay, there's nobody
left and it's Bryce Young that's out targeting their first
round pick, Xavierly get by a large margin, and the
upcoming matchups are fantastic for slot wide receivers like Casey
very good versus the perimeter, the Bucks very decent versus
(35:35):
the perimeter. But yet they've allowed the second and third
most Fantasy points per game to opposing slot wide receivers.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, and the Carolina Panthers are streaking right now, two
wins in a row. Everybody, look out. Let's go all right,
let's get to some of the streamers for Week eleven.
Debro kick us off with a QB. You want to stream?
You need to redeem yourself because last week you gave
everybody out and actors and I told you that was
a dumb idea, but you didn't listen to me. No,
So redeem yourself. Where are you going this on that
(36:02):
L I knew I was gonna get the smoke today.
I was saving it. We were saving it. Look, I
deserve it, and so the Jets they deserve it. The
season is done. Football in New York done not so
great these days.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
It's it's bad to Adams dropping passes in the end zone.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
It's not good. Not good.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
But two quarterbacks that will lead you to fantasy points.
This week, we're gonna go back to the well Man.
We thought we've made jokes, We've talked about it. But
Russell Wilson throwing yolo balls against a bottom three pass
defense for the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yes, please, I like this one much better. I don't worry.
I think that's gonna be okay. Thanks for you, FITZI.
You're targeting a guy against the Atlanta Falcons, Bo Nicks.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
He's just become such a reliable point producer. Top matchup
against the Chiefs, and he was like really efficient as
a passer, didn't run much, but gave us two hundred
and fifteen yards two touchdowns. Oh and by the way,
he's playing the Atlanta Falcons, the team that just made
Marquez Valdez Scantling look like Randy so.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Pat Was it weird to say bo Nick's very reliable
fantasy point getter, like the.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Goodness, but man, you go back over the last six weeks,
he's got to be like top eight for.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Since week five, QB eight, QB nine, QB eighteen, okay,
and not so good then QB two, QB fifteen, QB twelve.
So he's right on that one, a tier man like
he's a guy you should be stabishing right now. Good
Daniel Jones, He is good. Daniel Jones. Good Daniel Jones.
How about a tight end to stream this week? Patty?
How you got?
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (37:34):
John new Smith against the Raiders? Good matchup and it
seems like two a tongue of Vello's strategy of getting
the ball out quickly greatly benefits John new Smith. Yeah,
and again the Raiders are very generous the tight ends.
It seems like he could be a good streamer for
a week eleven.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
De bro tight end for week eleven. So this one
comes with context.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
But I want people monitoring this because he is going
to be ranked and Sara my top twelve tight ends
for the week if Dalton Kinkaid is out and that
is Dawson Knox. The matchup, I mean, we know that
Buffalo's going to throw the ball. It's Josh Allen led offense.
All of that is definitively true. The Kansas City Chiefs
are a top shelf matchup for titands. They're one of
the second most fantasy points per game and the most
(38:17):
receiving yards per game to the position, and as well
as Kean Coleman Amari Cooper. They even play, so the
target tree has been pruned a few limbs, so Dawson
Knox could walk away with a very good game.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
All right, let's go to the defenses to stream for
a week eleven debro. Who do you have?
Speaker 3 (38:35):
I want pressure, I want turnovers? And this is a
low key, great, great option. I can't even believe they're
still out there. Man, the Rams versus the Patriots only
twenty two percent rostered their top three in pressure rate
and QB hurry rate.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
And oh guess what.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Drake Mays a rookie and he has faced the highest
pressure rate in the NFL this year, So yes, the
Rams are a fantastic option.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Pat Speaking of turnovers, the Houston Texans create a lot
of turnovers, couldn't win the football game on it, so
they're available this week. You want to stream them.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yes, they created five turnovers with the interceptions, Joe. They're
number two in defensive DVOA. Going into week ten, they
were number five in pressure rate, number six and sex
And get this for their upcoming schedule for the Texans,
the Dallas Cowboys, yes please, uh, the Tennessee Titans, and
the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
So yeah, their next three quarterbacks. It looks like they
could be facing Trey Lance, Will Levis and Mac Jones.
So I'm going the extra buck or two wins.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
I'll say it, Pat has the better streamer.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
I'll spend three bucks on the Texans and not have
to worry about defense Thanksgiving week.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Like you gave us the Lions on that schedule, I
think a couple weeks ago the Broncos on one of
them earlier.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Like, yeah, I'm a lazy I'm a lazy man, Joe.
I don't want to have to stream a defense every
single week. I just want to set it and forget
it for like three weeks and not have to do anyth.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Wonderful schedule at bad quarterback. Let's go for kicker here, Pat,
who do you.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Have Jason Sanders versus the Raiders again, good matchup, and
in the two games since Tua came back, Sanders has
had two field goals and three extra points in both
of those games.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
De bro Kicker, call me a sucker for a feel
good story, Baby shake Bates, give me him. Detroit's gonna
be in the red zone and they're gonna be in
kicking range often against Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Yeah, but then Dan Campbell is going to go for it.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Unfortunate, but now.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
He's got Now now we know that bats. He he's
got that fifty yr plus leg. Like they talked about
this on the podcast. He's like, didn't want to sit
here and put too many uh, too many long shots
onto the kids shoulders.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
He hit two of them last week. I know, I know,
barely barely good on the Lions, like the teams. You know,
people want to give the Lions crap because go thro
all those picks. They won the game. People want to
give the Chiefs crap they blocked the kick, they won
the game. You know, these teams play all three phases offense, defense,
(41:03):
special teams. You give yourself a much better chance to
win football games. And you can hate it all you want.
You can say it's luck. Whatever it is. When you
are good in all three aspects, you are giving yourself
a much better chance to have the record that the
teams like the Lions and the Chiefs have, So you
can hate them all you want. That's good football. Sorry
you referee, shut up. It's stop it. This is good football.
This is preparation, this is work ethic, this is personnel,
(41:26):
this is top to bottom good organizational. I think that's
called grit. It's all of it, It's all the above,
and those two teams have it, which is why already
bet them both in the super Bowl before to go
at it, and I double down on it in my
it's halfway evaluation in week nine, Well, I was like,
this is it. I still don't see two teams from
either conference that are going to match these guys. And
(41:46):
I think both of them can have the one seed.
And when they have the one seed, it's a much
easier path two long games after a bye to the
super Bowl. More often than not, that is a tough
thing to stop. All right, Let's get to the Waiver
Wire ads of the week. FITZI. Who's the top five
for Week eleven?
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Jalen Warren Number one, Audric estimated number two. Number three,
Quintin Johnston still widely available, big fast, tied to a
good quarterback, has shown an aptitude for scoring a lot
of touchdowns. I like all those things. Shoe number four
guy we didn't really talk about.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Tai J.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Spears who came back in week ten, got a pretty
good amount of work. Tony Pollard not fully healthy, and
I loved what I saw from Tai J. Spears in
twenty twenty three, so I'm interested in adding him and
Ricky Piersaw, as Debro mentioned, a lot of contingent upside there.
He's number five.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Yeah, I know, Spears was in the sixty percents in
sleeper QJ is at fifty nine, so check him out, folks.
I mean that was a guy who's our Waiver Oar
pickup of the week last week and guess way another
touchdown this week. So Deebro, give me your top five
four week eleven.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
I'm going to pound the table for Aldric estimated number one,
Jalen Warren number two, Ricky Pearsaw with that contingent upside
number three, and then we're going to the slot wide
receivers at score points, Jalen Cocher number four, and a
lot more.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Five there we have it. Everybody. For more Waiver Wire
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Go to Fantasypros dot com slash my playbook, or just
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(43:21):
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