August 27, 2025 • 20 mins
Join Ryan Wormeli, Andrew Erickson, and Terrell Furman Jr. as they highlight six must-have players who are going to help you win your fantasy football leagues in 2025!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, everybody, well, commit to Fantasy Pros. I'm Ryan Warmley,
joined by Andrew Ericson and by Terrell Furman. Guys, we
are talking must have players for our twenty twenty five drafts.
Quick reminding for everybody. Reminder I should say before we
dive in. All of our twenty twenty five consensus rankings
and tiers can be found at fantasypros dot com slash rankings.
Also a reminder to check out real TIMEADP. That's at
(00:23):
Fantasypros dot com slash real ADP. It is a cool
new feature we have at Fantasy Pros. ADP can be
a bit of a lagging indicator at times you see
a lot of data kind of mixed in from early
on in draft season. Real time ADP from Fantasy Pros
shows you where guys are actually going right now. So
if you want to go out and get Bill Krosky Merritt,
you know what round he's really going in, not what
(00:44):
ADP on the sites you're drafting on, we'll say, so
be sure to check that out again Fantasypros dot Com
slash real ADP. We're talking our must have players here.
We're gonna do some early round guys. We're gonna do
some mid round guys, and we're gonna do a couple
of eight round guys. It's a shorter video, so we'll
dive right in here at the very top ericson starting
with you. Who is your early round must.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Have Drake London wide receiver for the Atlanta Falcons. I
think that he has the chance to really level up
with Michael Pennix Junior taking over as the full time
starter in the Falcons offense. London in twenty twenty four
was an absolute red zone monster twenty three red zone
targets that was third most among all wide receivers. He
also posted the third highest target rate per route run
(01:24):
at thirty percent. I just think that this is Drake
London's monster campaign coming. I think that he has a
chance to score double digit touchdowns again. He hasn't always
been used the right way through Arthur Smith's offenses in
the past couple seasons, but with this offense here, I
think that this is where he catches a ton of touchdowns.
I think he's a dark horse finished wide receiver one.
You look at the past wide receiver ones. I believe
(01:47):
over the last six seasons, I think that all those
guys have in common. They all led the NFL in
red zone targets, and that was something that put me
on to Jamar Chase as the wide receiver one entering
last season that he had just this monster zone target
rate with Joe Burrow as his quarterback. And I think
that Michael Pennox is going to do the same thing
with London in twenty twenty five. So he is someone
(02:07):
that if I had to take him in the first round,
I would, but make it available in the second round.
He is an autopick for me every single time.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
There are amongst all the experts in the Fantasy pros
consensus frankings, there are only eight people who have him
ranked higher than I do. Now, two of them are
Fits and debro h actually three of them are fitzdebro
and Erickson. But I have him. I've tied with you
ericson at wide receiver five, like I. He's wide receiver
nine in real time ADP. Who's way five last year.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Fifteen weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
But yeah, it's just too low. And like Fitz and
Debra have a wide receiver four, like they are even high.
I do have Nico ahead of him. And then obviously
the top three are the same for everybody, or for
the most part. But yeah, I just think London's upside
is immensely high and I don't understand how you can
get him in the second round. Like his real time
ADP is picked two oh four. That is crazy to me.
There are a lot of really good receivers in that range.
(02:56):
I get why people might have a personal preference, but
for me, after those ee three, I'm taking Nico and
then I'm taking Drake London and I'm sleeping happy at night. Honestly.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, I mean his apiece of the same as last year,
and really it's not a reflection on him, but just
a reflection on how good Round one in round two
is just a lot of really talented players at the
top of the board, which is why again feel comfortable
when on Hey, I have to pick at the back
end of round one, no problem, because there's Round one
guys in past years that are available in round two.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Terrell, you also have a receiver here for your first pick,
And how did I know that it was going to
be maleak neighbors.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I mean, I'm only spitting facts here. This is not
even any bias or anything. Weeks one through four last
season with Daniel Jones as his quarterback, Malik Neighbors was
wide receiver two and happy pr He was great for
the season. He was second in the league ins targus
only to Jamar Chase. He was top fifteen in routes
in yards per route run, he was first in targus
(03:49):
per game, first and expected fantasy points per game with
twenty point three points per game. And he had the
first ree percentage. And now he has an actual quarterback
playing the position that's gonna actually throw the ball down
field because Daniel Jones couldn't get the ball ten yards
downfield without an actor sis or anything else from e
Leakue Neighbors having a run back to the football and
(04:10):
then having to run back for it and trying to
make something happen. Like, I think that this is just
going to be an astronomically good year from elite Neighbors.
And as somebody drafting in the back end of drafts,
I think Neighbors could be wide receiver one. You talk
about Drake London a lot of these stats. Neighbors was
surpassing Drake London last year, So I think that all
those players are really good. But neighbors. Barring any injury issues.
(04:33):
I know he's been dealing with what they say is
a back, or it could be a toe or all
these other things. If he's out there, he's going to
get targets. He's going to be immensely valuable for fantasy.
He had seven touchdowns in a season where they really
really couldn't even get on that side of field at all.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I will tell you this, Terrelle, if I could guarantee health,
he would be my wide receiver for like that is
that is to me. That's why I have Nico and
London ahead of him, is because I'm like, there's just
enough there for me to be nervous about, like the
back of the foot, just like whatever it is. Because
he's somebody who like obviously dealt with like some of
the concussion stuff last year, Like like there's enough there
to make me nervous when there are other receivers. I
(05:11):
really like setting the health aside, though he absolutely has
as good a case as anybody to be number one
this year, like the volume, you know what, one hundred
and seventy targets last year, Like as a rookie with
poor quarterback play, I can only like if we get
any Jameis Winston, if Jackson Dard is a real thing,
like it doesn't even matter, it's going to be a
quarterback upgrade. And when he is on the field, this
dude's gonna get fifteen plus targets a game and he's
(05:32):
going to do a lot with those targets. I think
so like for me, like Terrell, it's just the injury
ericson do you where do you have Neighbors ranked?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Actually I have him ranked lower than the guys you
talked about with like Nico Collins and Drake lun I
just like their quarterbacks a little bit more in terms
of the combination embedding on those types of offenses. Taking
the leap again, I do think that the league Neighbors
leading the NFL on targets would surprise nobody, and that
definitely puts him in the category of being the wider
one overall. But I do have concerns about it if
(06:02):
the offense does stall out and he doesn't see the
touchdown opportunities that maybe he saw last year or how
high is that ceiling? Can he score fifteen touchdowns? Because
I think Drake London and Nico Collins can and if
leak Neighbors isn't scoring fifteen touchdowns? Well, is he going
to be able to beat those guys? That's my only
hesitance with him. I would say, though, in full PPR,
I mean it's really hard to beat Milik Neighbors just
(06:23):
based on the volume. So I think it does matter
in terms of format, where half PPR you really want
to lean into that touchdown upside, where I think in
full PPR, I mean, if Neighbors is catching ten balls
a week, like, it's just going to be really hard
to keep up with him this month.
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episode of ericson he does the little salute for us,
which I appreciate. Let's go to the mid round must
haves here Terrell will start with you on this one.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, and this is a guy I've been targeting and
it doesn't really matter in what format, but I just
feel like he's going way too long. And that's Isaiah
pa Checko. Isaiah Pichecko is being drafted all the way
in the sixth round now, which is crazy because a
year ago, prior to an injury that nobody could foresee
in him getting that lower leg injury, you have Isaiah
Pichecko who was being drafted in the second round. He
(07:31):
was being drafted as a top ten running back and
there's nothing anything better. If anything, the offensive line is
better than what it was a year ago. And so
I think that now everybody has kind of turned off
because they see what the numbers were for Isaiah Pichecko
after the injury. But you gotta remember the first two
games prior to that injury. He may not have been
running the ball the most effectively, but he was killing
(07:54):
in fantasy points fifteen and fourteen fantasy points per game
in those two games. So I think that Isaiah pa
Checko has won the best thing no competition, because I
don't think that Kareem Hunt or anybody else in that
depth chart is going to compete with them for such
as and then he's going to have the option the
benefit of an offense that is mad, that is angry,
(08:17):
a team that says, hey, we didn't have our guy
for the majority of last season, and when he came back,
he wasn't playing well. We really couldn't play into the
run game, and we still won all those games. Now
we have our run game. Now we can control clock better.
Now we can start to pummel Isaiah pa Checko in
the fourth quarter. I think that he's going to get
a lot of usage this year, and he has a
role in the passing game. He still has that role
in the passing game, so I don't think he's going
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to be a sixth round running back when it's all
set and done. I think he's going to be closer
to an RBAT two and ceiling RB one what he
was projected to be two years ago before the lower
leg injury. So I think Isaiah Checko is gonna have
a great year.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Pacheco being available where he is is the reason that
I love the wide receiver heavy approach earlier draft, because
I feel pretty confident I'm getting a guy with RB one,
not overall, but n RB one upside in the late
fifth or early sixth round, Like I just if he
never ericson. You might have been the first person to
make this point. I can't remember where I first heard it,
(09:14):
but somebody made the point that I thought was really
great that if he never came back at the end
of last season, we would be ranking him higher. It's
because he looked bad when he came back, but it's
like he should have looked bad. He was coming back
from a broken leg in the same season and he
was if he was just injured for the year, and
it's like, okay, now he's back and healthy. I think
he'd be going in like round three or four because
(09:36):
this is the lead back for an offense that I
think is actually going to be like pretty good this year,
which you know, it doesn't sound like it should be
going out on a limb for the Chiefs, but it
kind of is relative to the last couple of seasons.
I think the addition to Josh Simmons make this offense
more explosive, Like I'm kind of anticipating like a pretty
explosive year from the Chiefs in general, which I think
is going to be more scoring opportunities and Pachecko's going
(09:56):
to be the lead back. I think it looks pretty
good for what we've seen in the summer. Like I'm
very very in on Pacheco at cost right now. Ericson Yeah,
I agree.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I think that he's a great value proposition. And like
Terrell's point, he was being drafted in the second round
last year, and he came back too early from the
injury because his team was trying to win a super Bowl,
not because they decided that he was all ready to go.
And it's funny because if Roshie Rice had come back
and looked terrible. Again this is before all his suspension stuff,
But if he had come back and looked terrible, then
(10:25):
he never would have been going as high as he
was in some of these earlier summer Best Ball drafts
where he was going as high as the second round
because oh, well, now he looks good and healthy because
we didn't see it. We forget that when they come
back and play through injuries. Yet, yes, this guy's not
the same. But now that he's in a full offseason
removed from the injury, I think it makes total sense.
And yeah, I think that you're getting closer to his
(10:47):
floor rather than the ceiling, which I think can definitely
be a low end RB one.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
And to add on to all of that, Travis Kelcey
and Taylors Swip just got engaged. That didn't have anything
to do with anything, but I just wanted to go
ahead and put that in there and make sure that
we got that in the show.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah, because Erics and I joked about maybe turning our
last episode into an emergency podcast for that, but we
thought people that the listeners might revolt if we did.
But worth mentioning. When talking about the Chiefs, Eric said,
who is your mid round must have?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
He's a mid round pick, but he's anything but a
mid player. Teteroa McMillan, wide receiver one for the Carolina Panthers.
I think that he is being drafted at his floor
when you just look at the production on average of
a top ten wide receiver over the last four years,
eighty catches one thy fifty receiving yards and six point
(11:35):
three touchdowns. That's the average. When you look at that
in terms of half PPR points, that's in the wide
receiver two range. And we talked about on an earlier
show about his real time ADP it's outside the top
twenty four at the position, so I think that he's
set up in a Dave Canalis offense that we saw
last year. Deontay Johnson in that role as the wide
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receiver one for this team be very, very productive before
he completely disappeared, and now he's not even on the
Browns anymore. So that being said, they have filled that
wide receiver role with a uber talented top ten player
in Tetro McMillan. I think that stylistically he fits exactly
what Bryce Young needs as a big body wide receiver
that can also win on the inside and the outside.
(12:18):
The coach peak has been strong for him about Hey,
he's going to see a ton of targets in this offense,
and I think we're going to see it from week one,
and I think that he's going to be a consensus
top twenty ranked wide receiver in the week two rankings
after he balls out in week one.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I'll save everybody sometimes since this is a shorter episode,
go listen to our League Winners episode with Ericson and
myself to hear more about Tedron McMillan, or go listen
to pretty much any other episode from this month because
We've talked about him a lot, and we adore him.
Couldn't agree more. We'll we'll move past him for the
sake of this episode. But yeah, just like an awesome
must round must have guy, Like I'm getting him everywhere
(12:52):
I can. If I can get him in like round five, even,
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Late round must haves ericson who you got?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Mischelle Tooton running back for the Jacksonville Jaguars. I just
think that this guy's going to be an absolute stud
when he gets so opportunity in the Jaguars backfield. I
know that Cohen hand picked him as their fourth round
rookie running back draft selection. Yes, Travis Eten and Tank
Bigsby will be there in the beginning of the season,
but I think eventually, probably in the second half, I
(13:50):
think we're going to see a two in takeover from
the tug boat himself. So so impressed with what he
did this past season. He was top ten the fbsdyards
after contact per attempt on running backs of least hundred carries,
and according to Sports Info Solutions, he was number one
in miss tackles rates four per attempt and the guy
that was in that category in twenty twenty three was
Bucky Irving. So I think that this year's Buckey Irving
(14:13):
is clearly going to be bishell Tune Terrell.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I saw you making the VT symbol over there, given
where you're.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Oh, no, Aggie Pride, Aggie Pride. He went to North
Carolina A and C.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I don't want to see you went. I do.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I do love Virginia Tech. So he's my guys, really
my guy, because you guys know I do love Virginia Tech.
But my alma mater is the North Carolina A and
c Aggie's and that's what he got it started. Yeah,
I love to and that's my guy for sure, dou
double college team over there, But I'm just not a
believer in it this year. Me personally, I think that
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is Tank Bigsby, and I think Tank Bigsby is going
to make it a very very hard case for him
to dominate the touch his workload. I think he will
push out et N for the receiving game, but I
don't know if the touch is going to be there.
I think it's going to be a tank based kind
of season.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
You guys had me rethinking everything. I was like, I'm
pretty sure I've talked about him as Virginia Tech this
whole summer and when he said no, no, Aggie, I
was like that very much. Yeah, threw shut out to
the Eggs. Yeah. Yeah, tune in another guy that we
talked about in the League Winners episode, if anyone wants
to check that out. Terrell, who is your late round
must have?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
All right, late round must have for me? He really
ruined this because he just requested for a trade, But
honestly they're not going to trade him, and so Jacoby Myers,
Jacoby Myers is a late round must have now I
understand the trade request, and people are going to be Actually,
this is making it better because he's probably falling in
drafts currently as we're speaking because of that. And what
(15:43):
people don't realize is one, it's pretty hard to just
trade somebody out of the blue. There are a couple
of options. Maybe the forty nine ers make a call,
but they just went and got sky Moore, so I
don't think they might be looking for anybody anymore. But
the Raiders also have the money to just go ahead
and pay. He just wants to get paid a little
bit more. He wants some guaranteed money on the year
for somebody who had a thousand yard season the year before.
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He doesn't have any guaranteed money this year for somebody who,
despite Bowers being on this team a year before, after
Devontae Adams got traded weeks one through fourteen, led the
team and target share and receiving yards. And he's just
asking for some guaranteed money. So I think the Raiders
is gonna figure this out. I don't think that they're
gonna go into the season. Yes, people saw the Mari
Cooper news. I think that was a tactic on his end,
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and this is a big chess match between Myers camp
and the Raiders. But I think they're gonna figure this
out because this is a wide receiver since twenty twenty
one that has outperformed as ADP in every single season
Wide Receiver thirty thirty three, Wide Receiver twenty four, Wide
receiver twenty three. He's been amazing. And guess who he's
been catching passes from, Cam Newton, MATC Jones, Cherish, stidtele An, O'Connell, Gardner, Minshew. Now,
(16:56):
I'm not saying Joe Gino Smith is Joe Montana or
anything like that, but he's way better than those guys,
especially Cam Newton in that version of Cam not Cam.
You know we Hey Cam, you know yeah, I ain't
throwing I'm not Gilly. I'm not Gilly Cam. I'm not
throwing those shots at you. I'm just saying when he
was playing in New England, it wasn't the same. It
wasn't the same. So with that being said, Jacoby Myers
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is going way below where he could finish if he
continues this season with the Raiders, which I do think
he will. I think this is just a tactic on
both sides to try to get leveraged in negotiations and
all he wants is some guarantee money, and the Raiders
actually have cap space to just go ahead and pay him.
So I think they're gonna end up going ahead and
paying him, and he's going to be a very very
good asset for Gino Smith alongside prop powers.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I love looking at guys where sometimes it's as simple
as like this guy's been productive and now he gets
a quarterback upgrade. Like that is sometimes like the most
baseline level of fantasy analysis, but I think it is
really applicable, especially in this situation. Ericson, I do want
to quickly get your opinion on Myers before we get
out of here, because I do think he's a really
good value. I strongly agree with the relly is a
great target. Do you see the upside with a guy
(18:04):
like Jacobe Myers or is he more of like a
high floor value type of pick.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I think I probably leaned towards more of the high
floor category, just because we've kind of seen him what
he can do at the NFL level, and at his
peak it's really not been Oh he's going to be
a top twelve wide receiver now. Maybe just because he
hasn't had that quarterback yet to kind of elevate him
to that next level to your like to the point
that Furman made. But even with Gino Smith, you know,
were those Seattle Seahawks receivers like winning leagues between dk
(18:31):
Mechf and Tyre Locke, and I think they end up
being good values for where you drafted them, especially when
Gino Smith was thought of as a just a backup,
journeyman quarterback. I think Myers, like you said, don't think
you're gonna be disappointed if you draft him. Obviously, if
he only concerns if he gets traded and then he
has to figure out a new offense or a new
depth chart. But there's also like scenarios where he gets
traded and he gets an even better quarterback or gets
(18:54):
a bigger upgrade. I mean, if he went to the
forty nine ers, like like, there's no one left on
that receiver room. And we've seen this Kyle Shannon offense
cook so we saw what it did with Dwan Jennings
last year as an older receiver that maybe was a
little bit undervalued. So look, I'm always going to be
in the camp of Jacoby Myers again, guy that started
out with the Patriots, and that the Patriots didn't feel
like they had to keep him and let him walk
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and decide to sign Juju's Mischuster and staid, you know,
when I first heard the trade request, I said, Jacoby,
come home, baby, please please come home to New England, like,
we could definitely use you.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I would love that. As a Drake May investor.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
He saw Drake May ball out. You know in UNC,
who is the slot receiver Josh Downs pretty good, pretty
good slot receiver quarterback connection. I think the buyers would
actually ball out on the Patriots. So yeah, if he
doesn't get traded, or if he doesn't get traded, I
hope he goes to the Pats.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
H does history repeat itself? Jacoby Myers would ball out
on the Patriots if we went back in time about
four years ago, I think we had this same discussion.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
He knows that McDaniel's offense man he balled out within
the Raiders too.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
All right, we'll go ahead and wrap things up there.
Those were our must have players in twenty twenty five drafts.
For Eric said in Tererella, I'm Ryan, thanks for tuning in.
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Hello, everybody, well, commit to Fantasy Pros. I'm Ryan Warmley,
joined by Andrew Ericson and by Terrell Furman. Guys, we
are talking must have players for our twenty twenty five drafts.
Quick reminding for everybody. Reminder I should say before we
dive in. All of our twenty twenty five consensus rankings
and tiers can be found at fantasypros dot com slash rankings.
Also a reminder to check out real TIMEADP. That's at
(00:23):
Fantasypros dot com slash real ADP. It is a cool
new feature we have at Fantasy Pros. ADP can be
a bit of a lagging indicator at times you see
a lot of data kind of mixed in from early
on in draft season. Real time ADP from Fantasy Pros
shows you where guys are actually going right now. So
if you want to go out and get Bill Krosky Merritt,
you know what round he's really going in, not what
(00:44):
ADP on the sites you're drafting on, we'll say, so
be sure to check that out again Fantasypros dot Com
slash real ADP. We're talking our must have players here.
We're gonna do some early round guys. We're gonna do
some mid round guys, and we're gonna do a couple
of eight round guys. It's a shorter video, so we'll
dive right in here at the very top ericson starting
with you. Who is your early round must.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Have Drake London wide receiver for the Atlanta Falcons. I
think that he has the chance to really level up
with Michael Pennix Junior taking over as the full time
starter in the Falcons offense. London in twenty twenty four
was an absolute red zone monster twenty three red zone
targets that was third most among all wide receivers. He
also posted the third highest target rate per route run
(01:24):
at thirty percent. I just think that this is Drake
London's monster campaign coming. I think that he has a
chance to score double digit touchdowns again. He hasn't always
been used the right way through Arthur Smith's offenses in
the past couple seasons, but with this offense here, I
think that this is where he catches a ton of touchdowns.
I think he's a dark horse finished wide receiver one.
You look at the past wide receiver ones. I believe
(01:47):
over the last six seasons, I think that all those
guys have in common. They all led the NFL in
red zone targets, and that was something that put me
on to Jamar Chase as the wide receiver one entering
last season that he had just this monster zone target
rate with Joe Burrow as his quarterback. And I think
that Michael Pennox is going to do the same thing
with London in twenty twenty five. So he is someone
(02:07):
that if I had to take him in the first round,
I would, but make it available in the second round.
He is an autopick for me every single time.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
There are amongst all the experts in the Fantasy pros
consensus frankings, there are only eight people who have him
ranked higher than I do. Now, two of them are
Fits and debro h actually three of them are fitzdebro
and Erickson. But I have him. I've tied with you
ericson at wide receiver five, like I. He's wide receiver
nine in real time ADP. Who's way five last year.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Fifteen weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
But yeah, it's just too low. And like Fitz and
Debra have a wide receiver four, like they are even high.
I do have Nico ahead of him. And then obviously
the top three are the same for everybody, or for
the most part. But yeah, I just think London's upside
is immensely high and I don't understand how you can
get him in the second round. Like his real time
ADP is picked two oh four. That is crazy to me.
There are a lot of really good receivers in that range.
(02:56):
I get why people might have a personal preference, but
for me, after those ee three, I'm taking Nico and
then I'm taking Drake London and I'm sleeping happy at night. Honestly.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, I mean his apiece of the same as last year,
and really it's not a reflection on him, but just
a reflection on how good Round one in round two
is just a lot of really talented players at the
top of the board, which is why again feel comfortable
when on Hey, I have to pick at the back
end of round one, no problem, because there's Round one
guys in past years that are available in round two.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Terrell, you also have a receiver here for your first pick,
And how did I know that it was going to
be maleak neighbors.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I mean, I'm only spitting facts here. This is not
even any bias or anything. Weeks one through four last
season with Daniel Jones as his quarterback, Malik Neighbors was
wide receiver two and happy pr He was great for
the season. He was second in the league ins targus
only to Jamar Chase. He was top fifteen in routes
in yards per route run, he was first in targus
(03:49):
per game, first and expected fantasy points per game with
twenty point three points per game. And he had the
first ree percentage. And now he has an actual quarterback
playing the position that's gonna actually throw the ball down
field because Daniel Jones couldn't get the ball ten yards
downfield without an actor sis or anything else from e
Leakue Neighbors having a run back to the football and
(04:10):
then having to run back for it and trying to
make something happen. Like, I think that this is just
going to be an astronomically good year from elite Neighbors.
And as somebody drafting in the back end of drafts,
I think Neighbors could be wide receiver one. You talk
about Drake London a lot of these stats. Neighbors was
surpassing Drake London last year, So I think that all
those players are really good. But neighbors. Barring any injury issues.
(04:33):
I know he's been dealing with what they say is
a back, or it could be a toe or all
these other things. If he's out there, he's going to
get targets. He's going to be immensely valuable for fantasy.
He had seven touchdowns in a season where they really
really couldn't even get on that side of field at all.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I will tell you this, Terrelle, if I could guarantee health,
he would be my wide receiver for like that is
that is to me. That's why I have Nico and
London ahead of him, is because I'm like, there's just
enough there for me to be nervous about, like the
back of the foot, just like whatever it is. Because
he's somebody who like obviously dealt with like some of
the concussion stuff last year, Like like there's enough there
to make me nervous when there are other receivers. I
(05:11):
really like setting the health aside, though he absolutely has
as good a case as anybody to be number one
this year, like the volume, you know what, one hundred
and seventy targets last year, Like as a rookie with
poor quarterback play, I can only like if we get
any Jameis Winston, if Jackson Dard is a real thing,
like it doesn't even matter, it's going to be a
quarterback upgrade. And when he is on the field, this
dude's gonna get fifteen plus targets a game and he's
(05:32):
going to do a lot with those targets. I think
so like for me, like Terrell, it's just the injury
ericson do you where do you have Neighbors ranked?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Actually I have him ranked lower than the guys you
talked about with like Nico Collins and Drake lun I
just like their quarterbacks a little bit more in terms
of the combination embedding on those types of offenses. Taking
the leap again, I do think that the league Neighbors
leading the NFL on targets would surprise nobody, and that
definitely puts him in the category of being the wider
one overall. But I do have concerns about it if
(06:02):
the offense does stall out and he doesn't see the
touchdown opportunities that maybe he saw last year or how
high is that ceiling? Can he score fifteen touchdowns? Because
I think Drake London and Nico Collins can and if
leak Neighbors isn't scoring fifteen touchdowns? Well, is he going
to be able to beat those guys? That's my only
hesitance with him. I would say, though, in full PPR,
I mean it's really hard to beat Milik Neighbors just
(06:23):
based on the volume. So I think it does matter
in terms of format, where half PPR you really want
to lean into that touchdown upside, where I think in
full PPR, I mean, if Neighbors is catching ten balls
a week, like, it's just going to be really hard
to keep up with him this month.
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episode of ericson he does the little salute for us,
which I appreciate. Let's go to the mid round must
haves here Terrell will start with you on this one.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, and this is a guy I've been targeting and
it doesn't really matter in what format, but I just
feel like he's going way too long. And that's Isaiah
pa Checko. Isaiah Pichecko is being drafted all the way
in the sixth round now, which is crazy because a
year ago, prior to an injury that nobody could foresee
in him getting that lower leg injury, you have Isaiah
Pichecko who was being drafted in the second round. He
(07:31):
was being drafted as a top ten running back and
there's nothing anything better. If anything, the offensive line is
better than what it was a year ago. And so
I think that now everybody has kind of turned off
because they see what the numbers were for Isaiah Pichecko
after the injury. But you gotta remember the first two
games prior to that injury. He may not have been
running the ball the most effectively, but he was killing
(07:54):
in fantasy points fifteen and fourteen fantasy points per game
in those two games. So I think that Isaiah pa
Checko has won the best thing no competition, because I
don't think that Kareem Hunt or anybody else in that
depth chart is going to compete with them for such
as and then he's going to have the option the
benefit of an offense that is mad, that is angry,
(08:17):
a team that says, hey, we didn't have our guy
for the majority of last season, and when he came back,
he wasn't playing well. We really couldn't play into the
run game, and we still won all those games. Now
we have our run game. Now we can control clock better.
Now we can start to pummel Isaiah pa Checko in
the fourth quarter. I think that he's going to get
a lot of usage this year, and he has a
role in the passing game. He still has that role
in the passing game, so I don't think he's going
(08:39):
to be a sixth round running back when it's all
set and done. I think he's going to be closer
to an RBAT two and ceiling RB one what he
was projected to be two years ago before the lower
leg injury. So I think Isaiah Checko is gonna have
a great year.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Pacheco being available where he is is the reason that
I love the wide receiver heavy approach earlier draft, because
I feel pretty confident I'm getting a guy with RB one,
not overall, but n RB one upside in the late
fifth or early sixth round, Like I just if he
never ericson. You might have been the first person to
make this point. I can't remember where I first heard it,
(09:14):
but somebody made the point that I thought was really
great that if he never came back at the end
of last season, we would be ranking him higher. It's
because he looked bad when he came back, but it's
like he should have looked bad. He was coming back
from a broken leg in the same season and he
was if he was just injured for the year, and
it's like, okay, now he's back and healthy. I think
he'd be going in like round three or four because
(09:36):
this is the lead back for an offense that I
think is actually going to be like pretty good this year,
which you know, it doesn't sound like it should be
going out on a limb for the Chiefs, but it
kind of is relative to the last couple of seasons.
I think the addition to Josh Simmons make this offense
more explosive, Like I'm kind of anticipating like a pretty
explosive year from the Chiefs in general, which I think
is going to be more scoring opportunities and Pachecko's going
(09:56):
to be the lead back. I think it looks pretty
good for what we've seen in the summer. Like I'm
very very in on Pacheco at cost right now. Ericson Yeah,
I agree.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I think that he's a great value proposition. And like
Terrell's point, he was being drafted in the second round
last year, and he came back too early from the
injury because his team was trying to win a super Bowl,
not because they decided that he was all ready to go.
And it's funny because if Roshie Rice had come back
and looked terrible. Again this is before all his suspension stuff,
But if he had come back and looked terrible, then
(10:25):
he never would have been going as high as he
was in some of these earlier summer Best Ball drafts
where he was going as high as the second round
because oh, well, now he looks good and healthy because
we didn't see it. We forget that when they come
back and play through injuries. Yet, yes, this guy's not
the same. But now that he's in a full offseason
removed from the injury, I think it makes total sense.
And yeah, I think that you're getting closer to his
(10:47):
floor rather than the ceiling, which I think can definitely
be a low end RB one.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
And to add on to all of that, Travis Kelcey
and Taylors Swip just got engaged. That didn't have anything
to do with anything, but I just wanted to go
ahead and put that in there and make sure that
we got that in the show.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah, because Erics and I joked about maybe turning our
last episode into an emergency podcast for that, but we
thought people that the listeners might revolt if we did.
But worth mentioning. When talking about the Chiefs, Eric said,
who is your mid round must have?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
He's a mid round pick, but he's anything but a
mid player. Teteroa McMillan, wide receiver one for the Carolina Panthers.
I think that he is being drafted at his floor
when you just look at the production on average of
a top ten wide receiver over the last four years,
eighty catches one thy fifty receiving yards and six point
(11:35):
three touchdowns. That's the average. When you look at that
in terms of half PPR points, that's in the wide
receiver two range. And we talked about on an earlier
show about his real time ADP it's outside the top
twenty four at the position, so I think that he's
set up in a Dave Canalis offense that we saw
last year. Deontay Johnson in that role as the wide
(11:57):
receiver one for this team be very, very productive before
he completely disappeared, and now he's not even on the
Browns anymore. So that being said, they have filled that
wide receiver role with a uber talented top ten player
in Tetro McMillan. I think that stylistically he fits exactly
what Bryce Young needs as a big body wide receiver
that can also win on the inside and the outside.
(12:18):
The coach peak has been strong for him about Hey,
he's going to see a ton of targets in this offense,
and I think we're going to see it from week one,
and I think that he's going to be a consensus
top twenty ranked wide receiver in the week two rankings
after he balls out in week one.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I'll save everybody sometimes since this is a shorter episode,
go listen to our League Winners episode with Ericson and
myself to hear more about Tedron McMillan, or go listen
to pretty much any other episode from this month because
We've talked about him a lot, and we adore him.
Couldn't agree more. We'll we'll move past him for the
sake of this episode. But yeah, just like an awesome
must round must have guy, Like I'm getting him everywhere
(12:52):
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Late round must haves ericson who you got?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Mischelle Tooton running back for the Jacksonville Jaguars. I just
think that this guy's going to be an absolute stud
when he gets so opportunity in the Jaguars backfield. I
know that Cohen hand picked him as their fourth round
rookie running back draft selection. Yes, Travis Eten and Tank
Bigsby will be there in the beginning of the season,
but I think eventually, probably in the second half, I
(13:50):
think we're going to see a two in takeover from
the tug boat himself. So so impressed with what he
did this past season. He was top ten the fbsdyards
after contact per attempt on running backs of least hundred carries,
and according to Sports Info Solutions, he was number one
in miss tackles rates four per attempt and the guy
that was in that category in twenty twenty three was
Bucky Irving. So I think that this year's Buckey Irving
(14:13):
is clearly going to be bishell Tune Terrell.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I saw you making the VT symbol over there, given
where you're.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Oh, no, Aggie Pride, Aggie Pride. He went to North
Carolina A and C.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I don't want to see you went. I do.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I do love Virginia Tech. So he's my guys, really
my guy, because you guys know I do love Virginia Tech.
But my alma mater is the North Carolina A and
c Aggie's and that's what he got it started. Yeah,
I love to and that's my guy for sure, dou
double college team over there, But I'm just not a
believer in it this year. Me personally, I think that
(14:48):
is Tank Bigsby, and I think Tank Bigsby is going
to make it a very very hard case for him
to dominate the touch his workload. I think he will
push out et N for the receiving game, but I
don't know if the touch is going to be there.
I think it's going to be a tank based kind
of season.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
You guys had me rethinking everything. I was like, I'm
pretty sure I've talked about him as Virginia Tech this
whole summer and when he said no, no, Aggie, I
was like that very much. Yeah, threw shut out to
the Eggs. Yeah. Yeah, tune in another guy that we
talked about in the League Winners episode, if anyone wants
to check that out. Terrell, who is your late round
must have?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
All right, late round must have for me? He really
ruined this because he just requested for a trade, But
honestly they're not going to trade him, and so Jacoby Myers,
Jacoby Myers is a late round must have now I
understand the trade request, and people are going to be Actually,
this is making it better because he's probably falling in
drafts currently as we're speaking because of that. And what
(15:43):
people don't realize is one, it's pretty hard to just
trade somebody out of the blue. There are a couple
of options. Maybe the forty nine ers make a call,
but they just went and got sky Moore, so I
don't think they might be looking for anybody anymore. But
the Raiders also have the money to just go ahead
and pay. He just wants to get paid a little
bit more. He wants some guaranteed money on the year
for somebody who had a thousand yard season the year before.
(16:05):
He doesn't have any guaranteed money this year for somebody who,
despite Bowers being on this team a year before, after
Devontae Adams got traded weeks one through fourteen, led the
team and target share and receiving yards. And he's just
asking for some guaranteed money. So I think the Raiders
is gonna figure this out. I don't think that they're
gonna go into the season. Yes, people saw the Mari
Cooper news. I think that was a tactic on his end,
(16:27):
and this is a big chess match between Myers camp
and the Raiders. But I think they're gonna figure this
out because this is a wide receiver since twenty twenty
one that has outperformed as ADP in every single season
Wide Receiver thirty thirty three, Wide Receiver twenty four, Wide
receiver twenty three. He's been amazing. And guess who he's
been catching passes from, Cam Newton, MATC Jones, Cherish, stidtele An, O'Connell, Gardner, Minshew. Now,
(16:56):
I'm not saying Joe Gino Smith is Joe Montana or
anything like that, but he's way better than those guys,
especially Cam Newton in that version of Cam not Cam.
You know we Hey Cam, you know yeah, I ain't
throwing I'm not Gilly. I'm not Gilly Cam. I'm not
throwing those shots at you. I'm just saying when he
was playing in New England, it wasn't the same. It
wasn't the same. So with that being said, Jacoby Myers
(17:20):
is going way below where he could finish if he
continues this season with the Raiders, which I do think
he will. I think this is just a tactic on
both sides to try to get leveraged in negotiations and
all he wants is some guarantee money, and the Raiders
actually have cap space to just go ahead and pay him.
So I think they're gonna end up going ahead and
paying him, and he's going to be a very very
good asset for Gino Smith alongside prop powers.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I love looking at guys where sometimes it's as simple
as like this guy's been productive and now he gets
a quarterback upgrade. Like that is sometimes like the most
baseline level of fantasy analysis, but I think it is
really applicable, especially in this situation. Ericson, I do want
to quickly get your opinion on Myers before we get
out of here, because I do think he's a really
good value. I strongly agree with the relly is a
great target. Do you see the upside with a guy
(18:04):
like Jacobe Myers or is he more of like a
high floor value type of pick.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I think I probably leaned towards more of the high
floor category, just because we've kind of seen him what
he can do at the NFL level, and at his
peak it's really not been Oh he's going to be
a top twelve wide receiver now. Maybe just because he
hasn't had that quarterback yet to kind of elevate him
to that next level to your like to the point
that Furman made. But even with Gino Smith, you know,
were those Seattle Seahawks receivers like winning leagues between dk
(18:31):
Mechf and Tyre Locke, and I think they end up
being good values for where you drafted them, especially when
Gino Smith was thought of as a just a backup,
journeyman quarterback. I think Myers, like you said, don't think
you're gonna be disappointed if you draft him. Obviously, if
he only concerns if he gets traded and then he
has to figure out a new offense or a new
depth chart. But there's also like scenarios where he gets
traded and he gets an even better quarterback or gets
(18:54):
a bigger upgrade. I mean, if he went to the
forty nine ers, like like, there's no one left on
that receiver room. And we've seen this Kyle Shannon offense
cook so we saw what it did with Dwan Jennings
last year as an older receiver that maybe was a
little bit undervalued. So look, I'm always going to be
in the camp of Jacoby Myers again, guy that started
out with the Patriots, and that the Patriots didn't feel
like they had to keep him and let him walk
(19:14):
and decide to sign Juju's Mischuster and staid, you know,
when I first heard the trade request, I said, Jacoby,
come home, baby, please please come home to New England, like,
we could definitely use you.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I would love that. As a Drake May investor.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
He saw Drake May ball out. You know in UNC,
who is the slot receiver Josh Downs pretty good, pretty
good slot receiver quarterback connection. I think the buyers would
actually ball out on the Patriots. So yeah, if he
doesn't get traded, or if he doesn't get traded, I
hope he goes to the Pats.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
H does history repeat itself? Jacoby Myers would ball out
on the Patriots if we went back in time about
four years ago, I think we had this same discussion.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
He knows that McDaniel's offense man he balled out within
the Raiders too.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
All right, we'll go ahead and wrap things up there.
Those were our must have players in twenty twenty five drafts.
For Eric said in Tererella, I'm Ryan, thanks for tuning in.
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