Jaylen Waddle Undervalued!? 12 Must-Have Players in Your Fantasy Football Drafts (Ep. 1316)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in friends to Fantasy Pros the Fantasy Football Podcast.
I'm Chris Welsh and joined with me today is the one,
the only Joe Pizzapia and mister Scott Bogman. This trio
has been bringing you some fire podcasting. Today we're gonna
do the same thing because we're gonna be talking about
the twelve must have players in your fantasy draft six

(00:21):
and six. These two are gonna battle it out, you guys,
let us know in the comments who has put together
the best of the must have players. Mister Joe Pizzapia,
once again, control taken away from you. It's a wonderful feeling.
You don't get to host it, You only get to
analyze it. How does it feel?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'm sorry, wake me up, Wake me up when this
dream is over that you have to do all the
reads and all the advertisement stuff and I just get
to sit here and talk about football with my beautiful
bearded fellow here.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Scott Bogman.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
I mean, come on, this is heaven on Earth. I
love this, but you know what, I love the whole
must have thing because this is such a relative fun thing.
Every year, the playerpool is for every year, the value
of guys on the board is very different as well.
We've seen players that used to be you know first
you know, round picks, guys like Austin Eckler. Now we're
debating do we want to take him at all at
a his ADP where it's so much later. It's amazing
how different just a single season can change the value

(01:15):
of some players. And I think for me, must have
every year. It just comes back to naming the guys
that in every draft I have circled, i have highlighted,
I've got my cheat sheets ready from Draft Wizard, and
I'm trying to make sure that they end up on
my roster in some way and get as many of
them as.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
I Yeah, this is an interesting concept too, they must
have players, because it can be dulled up a little
bit to kind of speak to other categories. You know,
there's only so many fantasy football categories that we can
talk about. But sometimes these different concepts can bring up
a whole other set of type of player. Bagman, When
you when you hear and you listen and you conceptualize

(01:51):
must have players, what does that mean compared to league
winners or compared to sleepers, they're probably dis relatives of
all of each other. But what is like a must
have player really mean to you?

Speaker 4 (02:05):
I Mean, the easiest way I quantify it is if
this guy goes off the board, I go, ah, that's like,
that's my really harsh analysis here of these are guys
that I want on every single team. Uh, these are
guys that I want on every single team, and I
think they are league winners. If you want to call

(02:27):
them that, they're coming, I think you need to get
them at a value because sometimes these guys are ranked lower,
but people like me are wanting to get them higher
than their ADP than their ECR, so they may come
off the board a little bit earlier than expected. You know,
if you're playing with smart people.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Oh there you go. Well, guess what you can get
prepared against all of those smart people and you can
be the smarty. What is that old adage where it's like,
if you don't know who the the fish is in
the poker game, it's definitely not fish.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Why do you do this to yourself? Why do you
do it?

Speaker 4 (02:57):
You don't know who the guy is? A game where
he shoots himself and he goes, who did this?

Speaker 1 (03:04):
What's then you don't know who the fish is the
fish right.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
You can't spot the donkey at the table. It's you
if you.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Don't know, if the pig doesn't smell like the pig.
I'm just saying, you can be the guy. You can
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I can promise you that because no one has more
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(03:33):
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Speaker 2 (04:39):
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of Bounds Mondays at two pm Eastern. All right, gentlemen,
must have player time. Let's get into it. Mister Joe Piezapa,

(05:38):
We're gonna start with you. You're first in the line
of the must have players for the twenty twenty four
season is whom.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Well, normally I'm somebody that doesn't mind going for the
elite quarterbacks, and I still don't mind it, but this
year is very specific when you're looking at some of
the value of the later qbs, and Jordan Love has
got to be that guy for me. And I want
to put too much emphasis necessarily on the last eight games,
and it's dangerous to extrapolate a sample size, but the
eight game sample size when you go back and look

(06:06):
at it. I think it's a little bit better than
people even realize. Despite the fact the numbers are great,
there were playoff teams in there. The Detroit Lions he faced,
the Kansaby Chiefs he face, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers he
faced during that stretch run. So it wasn't just beating
up on the Chargers and the Carolina Panthers and the
Giants and some of those lesser teams last year.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
He actually did it against some.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Pretty formidable teams, even Bogman Steelers were in that eight
week run. That run that I'm talking about, I think
what you saw was a guy emerged with the confidence
you saw him with a seventy percent completion percentage, averaging
almost two hundred and seventy yards a game, eighteen touchdown passes,
just one pick over those last eight starts, and that's
without a healthy Christian Watson, and without a healthy Aaron

(06:47):
Jones for.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Much of that stretch too.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Right, So now all of a sudden, in theory, you've
got Josh Jacobs there to help balance things out a
little bit, even free up some more play action. Potentially,
you've got Christian Watson. You hope that's going to be
healthy and adding that's sort of big time piece makes
a huge difference, I think to what Jordan Love could
even do. So I'm looking at him as a guy
that could potentially finish in those top five quarterback point getters,

(07:11):
and you're drafting him as what QB ten or eleven
sometimes off that board, and I'll throw a bonus one
on you too.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
For those playing in superflex, Justin Fields is.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Starting to become one of those must half guys for
me because right now it's super cheap if you're in draft.
In the next couple of weeks, and the upside there
is another one who could finish as QB seven QB
eight overall. A guy with a thousand yard rushing potential,
especially in half point PPR superflex formats is beyond league
winning potential. So I reach for him in the flex

(07:40):
draft this past weekend. I think that he could be
a huge difference maker. Get yourself a third quarterback, a veteran,
another you know, boring low level person, or even somebody
like a Sam Donald who's gonna probably start the season
just to get you by just in case he doesn't
have the ball Week one, but Fields in Love or
two guys in single QB and in super flex format
specific for fields that I think those are guys that

(08:02):
I really want to have in twenty two.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Nah, I think you're also speaking and I'm speaking a
little bit for you when you talk about Jordan Love,
you're also speaking to a more macro perspective of like
later quarterbacks, you're not heavily investing. A lot of us
are attempting not to heavily invest in quarterbacks. We just
did a mock the other day, though, where was the
first time in a long time I had taken one
of the better quarterbacks. But it was because Jalen Hurts

(08:24):
fell to quarterback four and it was in a round
like five of a single quarterback. That was an instance
where I broke that mold because in general, I'm kind
of with you on that macro perspective. And also, Bob,
this is are really quickly before we go to your
first guy on your list. You're a big fan of
Jayden Reid. I actually think Romeo Dobbs is wildly underrated.
And then on top of it, outside of these guys

(08:45):
getting hurt, you've got Christian Watson D'tavian Wicks one of
the top sleepers. By the way, we have awesome sleeper
ranks now available in the insights that you're going to
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range over and face Annesley Pros and you'll get those warnings.
You got four big sleepers. Musgrave is a sleeper for me.
You know, like they have got a bunch of pass catchers,

(09:08):
which definitely makes Jordan Love really really enticing at his ADP.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Yeah, look, I Jordan Love is good. There's like meat
on the bone there for him to rush a little
bit more as well to run the ball. So there
is so much potential for Jordan Love in this offense.
The only thing that like creeps into the back of
my brain when thinking of Jordan Love and thinking about
negatives is you know, they signed Josh Jacobs, who could

(09:36):
be a three hundred touch guy. They still have aj Dillon,
they drafted Marshaun Lloyd. This might be a team that
wants to re establish the run a little bit more.
But if they get down and this is a high
scoring you know division, now as well, you have the
vikings that are going to pass more than anybody else.
You have the Lines with all their weapons, you have
the Bears adding all their weapons. It should be another
really good year for Jordan Love and he can do

(10:00):
a little bit more than he even showed last season.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
All right, let's go to Bagman. We're going to your
first one. I think it is hilarious because you are
the highest in the world end this player and you're
saying he's a must have, yet you never have him
in drafts. Talk about this play aft.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Okay, well, I don't have him in our drafts because
everybody knows I wanted him and they draft him too early.
We just did a mock draft yesterday and he went
brock Bauers, went ahead of David and Joku, Jake Ferguson
and Evan Ingram. I can't remember if he went ahead
of Pitts. I don't think he did not, But in
ECR right now he's eleven. So in our draft he

(10:38):
went at eight, So you know he went higher because
I've been singing his praises all off season, and I'm
a complete broken record here. I was high on Kinkaid
last season, I was high on Laporta last season, and
Bowers is better than both of those guys, And I
know people are afraid that Michael Mayer is going to
be on the field a bunch and you know, kind

(10:59):
of wreckers value here because he's a tight end. He's
not a tight end. Brock Bowers is a weapon. And
I saw this from thirty two beat writers quoted Case Kiefer,
who writes for the Raiders for the Las Vegas Sun,
their paper, and this was his quote. They didn't see
Bowers merely as a tight end, but rather someone who

(11:19):
could single handedly diversify the Raiders attack by lining up
at different spots. So far, they've they've lived up to
their word, as Bowers has not only frequently played alongside
Mayor in twelve personnel when one running back and two
tight ends are on the field, but also sometimes as
a slot receiver and a fullback. That doesn't sound like

(11:40):
a tight end to me. That sounds like an offensive
weapon that is going to be on the field a
lot and used a ton. So I think Brock Bowers
is going to be this year's Sam Laport. I don't
know if he's gonna end up his tight end one.
I think that's asking too much, but I have him
ranked at five. I have him ahead of Kincaid, who
is in for a big year with all of those
targets gone for Stefan Diggs because I think he's that talented.

(12:02):
So I'm gonna stick here, be a broken record and
keep preaching my brock powers.

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Speaker 1 (13:54):
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Speaker 3 (13:57):
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Speaker 1 (14:03):
It looks like it wouldn't It shouldn't fit your head.
It looks so much bigger is there? Like are there
like little pointy things inside of there? Let me see
the inside of that real quick. No, my craws very personal, family,
very personally. Don't talk politics how much people make or
look inside of someone inside of Sorry, all right, well
let's look inside of your must haves. Joe Pizzapia number
two on the must have players who you got.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Real quick too? I love Bowers.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Just want to say that if the tight End pool
gets away for me, No tight Ends made my list
of must haves only because I feel like the value
is so good. Like the guys at the top, if
you get him in a little bit of a discount,
Kelsey Laporta awesome. Otherwise that pivot to the Kincaid Kyle
Pitt's tier of guys, I'm good with that. I'll settle
for Evon Ingram like, I got no problem with that.
I still think he's going to be a huge target getter.

(14:48):
And then Bowers is a great one late. So none
of my players must have our tight ends for that reason,
because I love the tight end position this year. I
think there's a lot of value, It's appropriately priced, and
I think the you can really have a lot of
different strategies and allow the board to come to you there.
But Terry McLaurin, for me, is my number five guy,
and I did just draft him as well in the

(15:09):
Big Flex League Expert League Draft. Four straight years of
one thousand yards receiving. It's really as simple as that.
And now you're giving him by far the best quarterback
he's ever worked with. And I'm a broken record when
it comes to TMC, just the way Boggs is when
it comes to Bowers. Here's a list of the names
of the quarterbacks he's played with, Case Keenum, Dwayne Haskins,
Colt McCoy, Alex Smith, Kyle, Allen, Taylor, Heinike, Ryan Fitzpatrick,

(15:31):
Garrett Gilbert Carson Wentz and then Sam Howell and now
Jayden Daniels. And the floor has already been set for him,
and if you keep giving me guys like Terry McLaurin,
where he is being drafted as wide receiver thirty two,
that's absurd. He is clearly at minimum a wide receiver two.
You're already giving him to me as a wide receiver three,

(15:54):
and he has the upside to finish as a high
end two, even maybe a low end one depending off.
Jaden Daniels really has a fantastic start to the year.
So to me, Terry McLaurin is absolutely somebody that if
you go running back early the way you know you
guys like to, you can make up ground at wide
receiver or if you're just doing big wide receiver builds,
Terry mclaurin's another guy you could probably get as that
fourth guy if you're going for the first three rounds

(16:15):
and then nagum the segment of the fourth round potentially.
It's an amazing situation this year with the value and
eternal investment for McLaurin.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Why he's so low, I don't understand. I guess it's
the uncertainty of the rookie quarterback.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
But I don't have a lot of questions about the
talent of Jayden Daniels, even if it takes a little
while again another thousand yard season, I think it's just
the beginning for him.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
You see how snarky that was Bogman. He's like, yeah,
you like to take those running backs.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
Look, when there's guys like Terry McLaurin, it affords the
Welsh and I to be able to take run occasionally.
And I wrote five players down, And this is the
this is the nice thing about getting to the sheet first,
right is I wrote my five down, and I went
to the sheet and Joe had already done it, and
he had three of my players and Terry McLaurin was

(17:01):
the first one. And I am a huge Terry McLaurin fan,
and I just think in this offense, he is going
to be huge. He's going thirty one. I have him
in the mid twenties. I just don't there. I'd be
fine with him as my wide receiver too, if I
have to, if I'm reaching, And.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Like you said, that's the thing, like, I don't want
to be a crazy advocate for like you going nuts
with running back. We just did a mock draft where
actually just I went nuts and throughout the draft I'm like,
I hate this. I hate this. I'm stupid, I'm an idiot.
Fantasy Bro's gonna fire me. I've taken too many running
backs that's not allowed, all of that type of stuff.
And then I got grated out amazing and I got
great out amazing fourth. But yeah, it was really good.
But also part of the concept of that and why

(17:41):
we can dive into that are players like Terry McLaurin, Like,
like you said, Bogs like, there are some of those
players in that like mid twenty five to thirty five
range that have those like wide receiver one to two
upsides and Terry McLaurin has that box. Interestingly enough, your
number two must have player is on the same team,
so let's hear it. But it's not a wide receiver.
It's one of those bastardly running backs there.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
Dumb running backs, so we shouldn't be taken. It's Brian Robinson.
And I think when you think of running backs in
Cliff Kingsbury you probably go, what or why are we
taking Brian Robinson? Right, Well, let's remember James Connor seasons
as the RB one for Cliff Kingsbury. In twenty two,
he was tenth in points per game and sixth in

(18:22):
twenty one in points per game, and that's half PPR.
And look, James Connor misses games. We know that, and
I know that. Maybe we think that Austin Eckler is
going to get a lot of catches, but Brian Robinson
is better between the tackles. He's going to get the
goal line work, and he should get more targets than
you expect because in terms of yards per route run

(18:43):
among running backs last season, he was fourth. The only
guys better than him in yards per route run where
Tyler l Geer, Breisee Hall and Alvin Kamara. That's it.
Brian Robinson is a three down back, whether Austin Eckler
is on this team him or not. So I think
Austin Eckler might be used more as change of pace.

(19:04):
I don't think that third down role is exclusively is
at all, especially with how slow he looked last season.
And I think Brian Robinson is gonna have way more
touches at the end of the season than Austin Eckler,
and I think we're kind of sleeping on it. So
I love Brian Robinson late as my RB three.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Two commanders two commanders on must have list as well.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
Kingsbury.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
You know what, Boggs, to your point, that's another guy again,
he's on that roster. You and I would have loved
that you drafting together this weekend. We have all these
guys in the same pot. But you know, to Bogwin's
point too about Robinson, a very solid running back at
Bama that I think just never got the hype he
deserved because you know, the offense was just so prolific
that sometimes you take for granted the guy that's just
steady eddying and getting it done. And I feel like

(19:45):
he's starting to emerge on that level in the NFL too.
I'm with Boggs, Brian Robinson is a really good value
and I took him from deebro in that draft, which
made him even sweeter. Like four picks before him, he.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Was salt tea box, not Deebra.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Box that up and sell it at the store. I'm
buying all the shares that I can. That is a
beautiful by the way, you know, it really is a
testament to there's questions about some of these rookie running backs.
They come at decent cost. You know, Jayden Daniels can
sometimes go at like eleven or twelve. But you know,
we're sitting here and we're talking about, like, hey, Jayden Daniels,
finally a good quarterback for Terry McLaurin Jadon Daniels and

(20:20):
what he's going to do on the offense probably going
to make them more efficient, spread the ball around a
little bit more. Kind of maybe looking at Jayden Daniels,
like what Lamar can do for the Baltimore Ravens and
where Dereck Henry's going to go.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Both of those.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Running backs can survive. Like I'm kind of an Eckler
guy because I think Eckler is going to be the
number one safety net for Jayden Daniels and I think
he'll be out there a decent amount, but he's not
going to be the well Like clearly we would love
Brian Robinson to get all of the run, but he's
not going to get all of the run. But that
might make him just more.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Any issues with Jayde Daniels and they're going to be
handing that ball off a ton the very good, So
Brian Robinson get a lot of work. If that's the case.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Joe, we are going to your third of the must
have players, And this is one of my favorite guys
last year in the live streams if you listened early
on on Sunday mornings, which we'll be doing again this year.
Joe pis a PIA host the first Hour. I hosted
the second hour, and I brought this guy up every
single week. This sneaky, sneaky sneak Ocollins is not so
sneaky anymore. In fact, it's like a top fifteen wide receiver.

(21:21):
But there's other wide receiver? So what makes him a
must have? When they added Stefon Diggs in here? I'm
excited to hear it.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Joe, Well, this is a guy that finished. Here's a
guy they finished this wide receiver nine last year, and
if we're being honest, you know one hundred and nine targets,
eighty catches, almost thirteen hundred yards, and eight touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
So he's kind of established a floor.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
And now all of a sudden, he's wide receiver fifteen sixteen,
depending on whose board you're looking at. And what I'm
trying to figure out is is this just because Stefon
Diggs was acquired?

Speaker 3 (21:53):
And if that's the.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Reason, to me, that's not a good enough reason to
suppress his value. And when I'm looking in that second tier.
Of those one A wide.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Receivers, he's by far my favorite. I love c J. Stroud.
Everybody knows last year is a big c J. Stroud guy.
He even exceeded my expectations.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
And Nico is not a guy to Welsh's credit, that
I was in on too much last season and I
was absolutely wrong about that, and I wish I had
more shares of Nico.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
He was terrific.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Add some late Tank Dell shares which were fun but
ultimately a little disappointing because you know, he's a run
blocker apparently in that offense sometimes.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
But anyway, looking at Nico Collins, this is why I.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Want to go after those early wide receivers in that
first round so much, because I love that group. And
then when you get into that next tier, there's uncertainty
a little bit for me with some of those guys.
Each one of them has something that sort of bothers me.
But the only thing that you can really kind of
poke at when it comes to Nico is, well, Tank
Dell's there too, and now they brought in Stefan Diggs,
but at this point Diggs's career, I don't know if
that's necessarily a bad thing. I think he distracts the

(22:50):
defense a little bit, causes you to be honest and
guard Nico one on one, and I think that's gonna
be a problem. I think Nico is the guy in
this offense, and I think there's too much hype around
the addition of Digs. I'm not saying Diggs can't be useful,
but I'm saying to drag him as to wide receiver
fifteen when I think he is more of a wide
receiver one in fantasy.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
That's a value, and that's a value I'm going to
take more off of that.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
You know.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Interesting thing with Nico two, when I was looking, it's
amazing what he did with the snap percentages. They're actually
pretty low snapper. Like his snap percentage in a week
in a week on basis was lower than like Romeo
Dobbs at the Packers. And I've held Nico down a
tiny bit this preseason because of the added weapons of
Stefan Diggs. But then I came to a realization, like

(23:32):
how I look at the Bears. I have brought Keenan
Allen down and I'm not hurting Dj Moore. I'm not
you know, making him suffer in the ranks and a
Doonza is the guy that I think can really break out.
So I'm trying to associate I'm trying not to hurt
that textan situation with Nico Collins when I'm not doing
it to the Bears and Bogs. Just as a real

(23:52):
quick aside, we were doing sleepers in the bus. I know,
Tank Dell is a player that you think is kind
of a bust right now, so this is he's more
of a push for a guy like Nico Collins.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
Nico Collins was another guy on that list. He was
one of the three that Joe picked that I was
mad about, and it's you know, I love yards per
rout run. It's one of my favorite stats and I
think it just encapsulates everything among wide receivers. And Nico
Collins was second in the NFL last season three point one.
Tyreek Hill had an insane three point eight two. The

(24:24):
only other guy over three was Brandon Aiyuk. So I
think that Nico is the safest of these wide receivers.
Tank Dell was very good, but he's very undersized. Injuries
could be a thing in his career. Sephon Diggs is
the falling knife that we talked about. So I think
Nico is easily the safest here.

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(26:28):
you on the Must have players. As we hit the
halfway point, throw it at us. What do we got.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
I'm going with Joe Burrow. He was fourth and twenty
two in points per game and total, eighth in points
per game and ten to total in twenty one, and
I think we forget how good he was because of
the injuries that he has had and look, if you're
out on Burrow because of the injuries, Okay, I understand it,
But this guy is one of the best qbs in
the league right now. He is a potential MVP every

(26:56):
single year. And what did we just talk about with
Nico Collin? Right, We're worried about Nico because you bring
in Stefan Diggs, Tank Dell comes back, Joe Mixon, But
who who does does all those additions lift? They all lift? CJ.
Stroud Right, Well, we get T Higgins back here, Jamar
Chase is back, Andre Josevac is being gushed about in

(27:19):
the preseason and everything. And Jermaine Burton is just such
a good deep threat. He was really drafted low because
of some offfield stuff. So I think that with no
running game or the lack of the running game, with
Joe Mixon gone and now you have between Chase Brown
and you know, Zach Moss, I don't know how that
run game is gonna work. The offensive line is improved, too,

(27:42):
the defense still isn't great. I think that Cincinnati's gonna
have to pass the ball a bunch. This is a
vertical pass first offense. If they can keep Joe Burrow
clean I think it's gonna have an enormous year, and
we've already seen him put together great years, which is,
you know, I love Anthony Richardson. He's got all this
rushing upside. But we've seen him play three in a
quarter games, you know, so he was pretty good there.

(28:05):
But we're already talking about him. Like he cemented, I
still like Joe Burrow. I think Joe Burrow has a
really high floor. Like I said, I get it if
you're off because of the injuries. I'm just not He's
really really good.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
I also like the mention of the lack of the
running game like Mixing Gone, like they've got guys don't
get it wrong, like Zach Moss Chase Brown, but it's
not an established running game. I really think they can
move off from it and more Chase Brown might be
good from the receiving side. Mister Joe Piezapia, This next
guy has been one of my favorites. I feel like
we've talked about him a decent amount in drafts and

(28:35):
I really do like this. I do view this guy
win given the opportunity to be a must have player,
this wide receiver is definitely on that list for me.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Yeah, and look, Jalen Wattle. I won't stay too long
at the DANZA because I think.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
We've all heard we talk about Jayleen Wattles since I
think the beginning of the season, when some of the
ranks came out, I was just shocked at where he was.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Now he's moved up a little bit.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
He's up to wide receiver seventeen. Right now, I think
it's still too low. Andrew Erickson's gone completely even past me,
which is unbelievable. And he did draft him this weekend
in the draft, and I'm where he is. This is
a player that came in the league and saw one
hundred and forty targets and had one hundred catches in
his first season as a rookie. Then in his second season,
all he did was finish is wide receiver seven with
thirteen hundred and fifty six yards and eight touchdowns. He's

(29:21):
an incredible offense. It runs fast, it runs hot, it
runs efficient. It's fantastic. And last year the only problem
was injuries. He missed time and he wasn't healthy, and
that happened some years happened now I think it's too
early to be calling him injury prone or any of
that stuff. I think you crumple up this season, you
throw it out the window, and if he has more

(29:42):
injuries this year, then we can sit and come back
to the table next year and talk about, well, maybe
Jaylen Waddle is a player we have to be a
little bit more concerned with. But I can't get there
after one season, I mean, his fourth year in the league.
He is one of the most I think special talents
out there. He always came in with the pedigree, had
a great college career. Two I think that you look
at the eighty one receptions and eleven hundred yards that

(30:04):
basically he's earmarked for in projections, I think they're way off.
I think it's way past that both.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Of those numbers.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
So for me, when it comes to Jalen Waddle, there's
another guy being grossly underdrafted, and I want to take him.
You want to take guys like Terry McLaurin and draft
him as a three, ends up as a two. You
can draft jayl Loawdle's a two. He can end up
as a one. I think that's a very special type
of value that's on the board when it comes to Wattle,
and I believe in this Miami offense. We've seen it
enough and we've seen how good it can.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Be for fantasy.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
So I just don't get why Jayleen Wattle, at the
end of the day is so undervalued. So I'm going
to take him as many drafts as I can as
long as the board continues to under.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Another point, I just want to point out why, Hey,
let me start off with Bjon Robinson and then go
to Kyen Williams in the second round, and then give
me Jalen Waddle and then get me Terry McLaurin. Those
Jayalen Wattle and Terry mclallin are two definite target wide
receivers that have the upside to make up for what
you might have lost by not taking the top tier
running backs. But those top tier running backs are just
so much better than the others. You know, I don't know.

(31:01):
Ito's my here getting all crazy is Scott Bogman. This
next player is one of my absolute favorites. I took
him in a rookie draft that we were just doing.
We also went in and dug in because you can
see the individual rankers here on Fantasy Pros, and we
found out from all the rankers Bogman is the fourth
highest I believe on this player of anybody. At least
as of now, things are going to change. This wide

(31:22):
receiver has no other good players, doesn't even have a
good quarterback. But that's part of the reason why he's
going to be so special. And he is the talk
of camps. Let's talk about Milik Neighbors.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Yeah, we've talked about Milik Neighbors. Maybe too much, right,
but eighty nine catches, fifteen hundred and sixty nine yards
and fourteen touchdowns last season. He definitely helped lift Jaden
Daniels to that Heisman trophy, him and Brian Thomas at LSU.
And you look at Daniel Jones and I understand that
people are not in I get it. Like Daniel Jones

(31:55):
does not look good. He's coming off an injury. Even
in camp, he's made some overthrows, but there's been better
reports recently that he has been turning it on and
those overthrows and underthrows are becoming less consistent. That dude
has been injured for a while, so he's getting his
rhythm back in. And look, the bottom line here is
there's no one else really to catch the ball in

(32:16):
New York it's Malik Neighbors. And then you know, do
the Billy Bean rest in peace from Moneyball by the way,
right like fifty feet do you know what? Of course,
how could you not? Then everybody else and then everybody else,
And it's just Molik Neighbors is so much better than

(32:37):
any other weapon they have. They got rid of Saquon,
They're going to Devin Singletary. He you know, we saw
Pukinakua get one hundred and fifty four targets last year.
I think we're gonna be in the same range form
Milik Neighbors. I think we're gonna see him run short,
a bunch a lot of short passes onto him, maybe
some reverses. They're gonna find different ways to get his
hands on the football. So I just think he's in

(33:00):
for a massive workload this season as a rookie, and
he is amazing with the ball in his hands, so
I'm just super excited to see it. He's going late
way later then you know the other rookie here. I
think he's a better value. So I'm all in on
the leak. Neighbors and and Jerry John they were talking, but.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
I think it's it was the wrong billy Bean that
was reported. Isn't that correct?

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yes, the wrong Well, yes, Billy Bean did pass way,
not the Moneyball billy Bean.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Yeah, it's the different billy Bean.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Billy Beans all right, so let's there's more than one
billy Bean.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Oh google it.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Okay, well we'll all go.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Dude, I was doing the quote from the movie Moneyball?
Was that not Billy Bean?

Speaker 3 (33:38):
You just said, r I P.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
That's the billy Bean who's the GM of the Oakland.
A's what Moneyball is about. Then there was Billy.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Billy Bean who it's very similar to Joe Alrico on
the football side, and.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Baseball version and NFL version. It's universe had.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Their own little group, by the way, I don't have
a group by the way with Red's broadcaster Chris Welsh,
he is way too old. I don't know if he
even knows text chain groups, but if we did, he.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
Does follow me, though probably don't agree with everything he
said either.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
They also don't agree with all the same things. You're
one hundred percent right about that. All right. It's running
back time. Maybe we've got two must have running backs?
Can you believe it? Joe Pisapia, you murdered Bogman on
this one because you got to it first, not letting
him have this. We all like it, but you two
are definitely the spokesman for mister Derrick Henry.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yes, well, I mean maybe it's time for the crown
again where we're.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Talking about the King King henryhaps it is?

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, you know luck I know in the couple shows
ago in the Hero Versus Zero RP show. If you
miss that, go back and watch it because it's spectacular.
But we had a conversation and Andrew Erkson. I got
into it because of the Derrick Henry thing, and he
was a little less on Derek Henry, and I just
kept fighting for Dereck Henry. And the reason is I
don't care if it's a PPR league. Yards are yards, Okay,

(34:57):
two years ago this guy had fifteen hundred yards. He
has finished an as an RB one four of the
last five seasons. The one year he didn't, he still
finishes RB sixteen and they only played eight games.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Okay, so just let's not forget how great he is.
And there are outliers.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yes, when you run running backs get to twenty nine
to thirty years old, you should normally cut bait. But
then they're the outliers. They are the guys who are
just special. And Derrick Henry is one of those special guys.
As Derek Brown likes to say, He's built different, and
he just is. And now you're dropping him a situation
where it's going from a team that struggled to move
the chains, struggled to get any kind of good offense
in the last couple of years, really going to a
team that runs the football more than anybody else, better

(35:35):
than anybody else practically. And I just don't understand how
he's not a huge value currently. And this is why
I don't go running back in the first rounds, because
Derek Henry is always there for me in the second
or towards the end of the second, sometimes even the
third round, which is unbelievable. In our latest mock draft,
you can go back and watch it. I got him
in the third round. It was fantastic, super excited about that.

(35:55):
I played the game and he was still there. RB
seven for a guy whos gona lead the legue and
rushing and probably have double digit touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Again, I don't care if he's not catching footballs. I
don't care.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yards are yards touchdowns are touchdowns, and at the end
of the day, he's gonna have both of those in
that offense. So bogs, I don't know all the reasons
why you love Dereck Henry. I know why some of
the reasons. You know, people are scared of him. But
what's your two cents on the king?

Speaker 4 (36:17):
I mean, you just said it. He is the biggest
freak of nature in the NFL. I mean Adrian Peterson
was like this as well, right where it was he
could get hurt, he could come back, and was at
the very end of his career where he really slowed down.
I think the same thing. We're seeing the same thing
from Derreck Henry. It's so many carries he keeps putting
them up as well. And last season the tush push

(36:37):
right that was the most unstoppable play in the NFL.
Kelsey and Hurtz. How about the RPO between Lamar and
Derrick Henry. How is a linebacker gonna choose which to
go after You either get run over by Derrick Henry
or you can't catch Lamar. It's now the most dangerous
playing in the NFL. I think so. I think Derek
Henry is going to stack it up and he's finally

(36:59):
behind a good QB who's the best QB he played
with in Tennessee, Ryan Tannehill. So I'm I'm just really
excited to see what Derek Henry can do in Baltimore,
hopefully not against Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
If the Ravens, by the way, don't treat their offense
like a thirteen year old playing Madden and they just
run the same just you know, power right, power or
RPO left, they should just everything.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Say that my twelve year old daughter plays Madden and
she never runs the fish. Does I know she's a quarterback.
You got to balance some things out once a day.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Quarterbacks are not going to do that, Joe, She's a
great quarterback. The egos lamar. I'm not saying I shouldn't say, Mrkin,
I'm not saying it's not a great quarterback, but they
should just run that play every other time. Pog Men,
this running back is literally your guy. You are I
shouldn't go look, and I shouldn't say literally because I
don't know if the rank dictates that, but you are.
You have been so outspoken, You are so outspoken, and

(37:55):
your head tilts back in a complete sense of frustration.
When you do not get him. This player is Ken
Walker with the Seattle Seahawks.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
Yeah, I mean, let's just talk about some some PFF
grades right seventh in offensive grade eighth and run grade
fifth and mistackles forced tenth in runs of ten plus
eighth in elusive rating, top twenty eight yards per route run.
And he's going right now as running back sixteen. I
don't underse these top ten in all these categories. And

(38:26):
he's RB sixteen. And Grubb said that he's building the
offense around Geno smith strengths, so they should probably run
a lot if that's the case. You know, I just
I think we see these three wide receivers on this
team and we go, man, you have DK, you have Lockett,
you have JSN. This team is going to pass a bunch.
We just saw Grubb come in from Washington where they

(38:47):
threw the ball with Michael Pennix a million times. Geno
Smith and Michael Pennix, he's just not you know, they
like Sam Howell too. Sam Howell showed he's not ready.
You have Sharpona, you have Walker. This team should be
running the ball so much that defense isn't one hundred
percent fix. It's going to be much better this year.
But I think run the ball and play defense should

(39:08):
be the name of the game of the Seattle Seahawks.
And I think ken Walker is going to have a
massive year. And all I'm asking you to do because
when you look at ECR on the website, just move
Walker to the top of that group that he's in.
That's what I do. I move him to the top
of that group. You don't have to. You can take
him as your RB two and just be great when

(39:31):
he puts up RB one numbers.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
All right, Well, before we get to the last two,
the last two must have players one from Joe, one
from Bogman. Both wide receivers. Must have wide receivers. We
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(40:39):
be very cheap.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
No he's not.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
But I still think this is the floor and everybody
already knows it, and that's why they're drafting Marvin Harrison
where he is right now. So he's pretty much around
you know, wide receiver ten eleven, twelve, somewhere in that
range depending on your draft. And I and as far
as I'm concerned, I'm still in another player that made
it to my team, as did number one on Bogman's
list too. After this is over, I got to run
you this roster because pretty much this roster.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
And this is why we talk about must haves.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Right, there's some analysts and a lot of people in
the fantasy football community. You talk a lot of game,
but then then don't get out there and actually do
it and put it into practice. I believe in Marvin
Harrison Junior. I believe in the talent. I believe in
the situation. It's very clear he's the alpha. The competition
for targets is Trey McBride and a bunch of Jags.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
So if you're.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Also looking and saying, well, how good could he be
and all this stuff, let me just remind you, okay,
that three of the top four rookie wide receiver seasons
in terms of yardage totals have happened in the last
five years. It's Jefferson, It's Chase, and it's Pokinakua. With three
of the four, now for fun, if you want to
name the other one, that's a fun one. I don't
think you'll get it. It was in nineteen sixty it was

(41:44):
Bill Gorman, That's who it was.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
But Bill Gorman, Bill Gorman.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
That reminds me.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
I got to give him a call. But seriously, think
about what the league has become. It's a wide receiver league.
Why can't a guy that has the pedigree of Marvin Harrison,
the talent, the opportunity, a quarterback who just a couple
of years ago with Leandre Hopkins support a fourteen hundred
yard receiving season, why can't he come out of the
gates with a fourteen hundred and ten to twelve touchdowns.

(42:10):
I can't think of a reason why. And that defense
stinks still, They're going to be having to throw the
ball all of the time. They are never going to
have leads in Arizona. It's it's not gonna happen. So
I'm very confident in Marvin Harrison. I'm very confident in
drafting him. In fact, I am more confident in some ways,
and I proved it this weekend over Garrett Wilson or
even Pukinakua. I think that conversation is one that needs

(42:31):
to be had more often.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Well, we're going from one of the most exciting rookies
and molds of clay what could be to one of
the most boring wide receivers who's undervalued. But boy, I
don't disagree that you do need to have in Bogman
your number one on the must haves is who.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
Yeah, nobody has an argument against Michael Pittman. The floor
is incredible. The last three seasons eighty eight ninety nine
on hunter D eight catches. As for yards it goes
ten eighty two, nine to twenty five eleven fifty two.
The problem has been the touchdowns, and look, you can't
make them throw Michael Pittman the football. But I can
tell you this that last season there were thirty two

(43:09):
players with twenty plus contested targets and Michael Pittman had
the ninth most targets in the fourth most contested catches.
He had a receiving percentage of fifty three point six
percent on those contested catches. Only Chris Godwin and Courtland
Sutton had a better percentage. TJ Moore had tied him,
but the third highest completion percentage win targeted in contested situations.

(43:33):
So don't tell me he can't go up and get
the football at the goal line. He can. He's proven
that he can. He can beat Man, he can beat Zone.
It doesn't matter. He's got an enormous floor and there's
so much room to grow in the touchdown department. Only
is fifteen over his four seasons. He could score ten
this year, would not shock me. These are fickle, right,

(43:53):
But you had JT missed some time last year. You
had Anthony Richardson, you know, break his stuff last season.
So maybe you don't want those guys running at the
goal line. Maybe you want to keep them upright, especially
when you have these massive tight ends that they have
and a guy like Michael Pittman who is a great
contested catch guy. So I think this is the year
that he breaks out and the floor is enormous with

(44:16):
the targets and the catches and the yards already, all
he has to do is at touchdowns, and I think
he does it this year.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Yeah, with Bogs one hundred percent of Pittman and just
to run through this Bogs, you'll enjoy this super flex
league again. This is the flex league that our friend
Jake Seely runs. You guys are in the other ones
as well, Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry Boom check them off
the list, and I love Lamar. So basically I have
taken all of the scoring of the Baltimore Ravens and
I have it on my team. It does all the
scoring runs through those two guys on that team in

(44:45):
some way shape or form except for the defense when
they score and seely got rid of defense, and so
we can't play with defense anymore, ra Shaan White. Then
here we go Marvin Harrison, Michael Pittman, Terry McLaurin. Those
are the three wide outs I've got in this super flex.
Pat Froermouth is the tight end, your boy from Pittsburgh.
And then on the bench we've got Justin Fields, Rico Dowder,

(45:06):
Brian Robinson Junior and a few other guys. So yes,
again we practice what we preach. These are our guys
and this is a squad that reflects not just mine
but also Bogman's must have and this is I think
a great way to go and see, Yeah, it's pretty
easy to go out and construct a roster and super
flex or one QB that has a lot of the
players we're talking about today.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Live in your best truth again to run through these
Joe's must haves, Jordan Love, Terry McLaurin, Nico Collins, Jalen Waddell,
Derrick Henry and Marvin Harrison Junior, Bogman, Rock Bowers, Brian Robinson,
Joe Burrow, Malik Neighbors, Ken Walker and Michael Pittman and friends.
I'll leave you with this. If you can't recognize the
sucker at the table, you might be the sucker. And

(45:49):
we're not gonna leave you to not knowing the analogy
or being the sucker. These twelve must have players. They're
gonna help you out and you'll be able to see
who it is. I think I was thinking donkey originally.
By the way, it's a turn.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
What if that happens?

Speaker 3 (46:08):
So what?

Speaker 4 (46:09):
But guess what we got it?

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Guess what's right?

Speaker 4 (46:12):
We got there.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
That's all that matters. You can You can find Joe
Pisapa on Twitter at Joe pisaps seventeen, Bogman at Bogman Sports.
You can find me at is It the Welsh, and
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