Player Evaluations, Ideal Drafting Spot, and Trade Help | Fantasy Football Q&A Livestream (Ep. 1679) - FantasyPros - Fantasy Football Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, and welcome into Fantasy Pros live on Twitch.
It's Wednesday, August twenty seventh, so of course we've got
another Fantasy football QNA coming your way right here on
twitch dot tv slash Fantasy Pros. That's where you can
follow us for all the live interactive content Monday through Friday.
I'm your host today, Seth Woolcock, and I'm absolutely buzzing

(00:23):
as we are on the brink of the biggest draft
weekend of the year. And yes, back with me as
a man fresh off a court date where Judge Joey
actually accused him of walking into traffic while playing Pokemon Go.
Someone who's not afraid to go get his guys. It's downtown,
Derek Brown, what's going on? Debro live dangerously? You don't
live at all, baby.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
I mean, if you don't live in dangerously, I don't
even know if you can even consider it living.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Seth, come on, man, let's go, baby. It's been a
while day, dude. We're gonna get to it.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
But my hands are hurt, man, Like, my hands are
hurting and my throat is already sore from all the
talking and stuff, the shorts, the real.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
The typing, the updating and notes.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
The top two fifty and rankings have already been updated
to count for all the news. Bro, We're not even
like halfway through the day, and it's been a wild one.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Man. It's that time of year again where I think
you have to start waking up even one two hours
in advance what we are doing in the offseason, because
everything's flying, NFL news left and right, college football news
left and right. We're trying to break it all down
from a fantasy perspective, from a betting perspective. So it
is a lot, deebro, But luckily always caffeinated you are,

(01:34):
so I think you'll be all right hanging in there
for the rest of it. Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
I've already got one energy drink down, and dude, I
have been loving these liquid debts.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
This one tastes like orange.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Soda, just oh amazing, So I'm sucking that down before
I probably would get to like Energy Drink number three
by eight a a pm tonight, so we'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
All right. Well, if Debro starts to tweet out some real,
real weird things later tonight, it's probably a shaky hands
from all the caffeine, so please excuse him. Go ahead
and drop your questions, bellow. We'll be sure to get
to them. And after this program, make sure you're checking
out the Fantasy Pros YouTube channel and the podcast feeds
for some very fun full lengths episodes. We also have

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some short form content over there and a ton of
clips from last week's Fantasy Vetfest. We are working in
the back end these past couple of days, Debro, just
hammering them out because you guys, from Andy Baron's to
the CBS guys, you guys had some great guests on
and also great content to kind of round out. It's
been a really fun offseason for us over here. Dude,
real heroes.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Everybody doing everything not in front of a camera for
Fantasy Pros.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
I mean that's the real heroes.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, and like everybody chopping up audio videos making sure
all the parts and pieces of where they need to
be man like. I mean, Fancy Pros wouldn't be anything
without everybody behind the scenes doing all the work too, dude.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
One man, I echoes out. I got to look at
I want to get to this first question here from
Bam Bam Branston because it kind of wraps up into
something we wanted to discuss. Uh, he's saying, boys, Wednesday
is upon us and let us bask in the glory
that is hashtag coke head Day of joy. What would

(03:14):
you be willing to acquire for Austin Eckler as depth
as a contender? Let's hold that second part of the question.
Let's start with the hashtag coke heads. The Adam Thelen
news Minnesota Vikings trade for Carolina Panthers wide receiver Adam Thinland.
Vikings get feeling a conditional twenty twenty six to seventh
round pick and a twenty twenty seventh fifth round pick.
Panthers they're going to get back a twenty twenty six

(03:36):
fifth rounder and a twenty twenty seven fourth rounder. So
some shaking and shifting in the draft order coming up
for us in future years. But right here and right now, Deebro,
looks like Adam Thlen would join the mix and give
JJ McCarthy just one more safety outlet.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, man, I mean, look, I keep saying this, I'm
not worried about JJ McCarthy. If anything that like this
is going to have people that are going to pump
him up a little bit in rankings and stuff like that.
Still not where he needs to be as a top
twelve fantasy quarterback. I said it before and I'll see
it again here. But with that, I'm feeling, man. Yeah,
I updated all this stuff as far as my rankings
and stuff. Okay, here with this move, I bumped Feeling

(04:13):
up to wide receiver fifty six, so I've got came
right behind Christian Kirk and Joshua Palmer.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
But he's in that mix of like Damia Douglas, Rashid Shaheed.
You know however you want to order those guys.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah, feeling the biggest takeaway man Like, And and again
if you're if you got drafts coming up this week,
you need to be tapped into real time ADP at
Fantasy Pros because with all of this news, because we're
gonna we're gonna get the Rashi Rice suspension and a
second here, and I'm sure we're gonna talk about people.
But like with all of this news, ADP on your

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host sites is not going to account for or all
of them are not going to collectively.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Update quick enough.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
So you need to be tapped into real time ADP
at Fantasy Pros because we are. I mean, it is
legit the cheat code of dealing with all this news
seeing the fallout, you could see the trends of like
the players have been rising up the board the fastest
and where guys are actually going in drafts. So with Deelan,
it's it's I think if you're trying to draft him,
he makes the most sense on a team where if

(05:13):
you've drafted Jordan Addison or Rashi Rice, that's the team
that I'm gonna kind of look at Earmark Thelen for
one of those final two picks only because he's not
gonna give you like a lot of different rosters. He's
not going to crack your starting lineup if everything's going right,
because the bump he's getting right now is going to
be in those first three weeks with Jordan Addison out.

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So if you have Addison or you have Rice and
you've drafted pick up the even off waivers, or if
you have drafts upcoming, Earmark Kim for one of those
final two picks, because he makes so much sense like
in those types of bills as a player, like you're
not getting the bumping utility down the back half of
the season, where in the fantasy playoffs he's helping bring

(05:57):
it home. But could he make the difference between your
team starting out zero and three or one and two
versus being three and oh as a flex play. Absolutely, man,
and I want I want to get your thoughts on
deal before we turn this over to Carolina.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah. So for feeling, I'm super comfortable where you had
him have him ranked. I was already kind of in
that range, and now I think I'm you know, sorting
through guys like him and Romeo Dobbs and Rashad Bateman.
Those are kind of the names I have around him
right now. So very happy with it. I think it
gives JJ McCarthy just as I said another outlet. So

(06:32):
I'm very happy with kind of where he's going in drafts.
And I still think he's a value. I know you
believe that as well. I want to know does this
affect your ranking at all of Justin Jefferson or even
someone like Jordan Addison who is slated to miss the
first few games of the season with his suspension. It
didn't really move Addison, and it's a good point.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
I mean I already had Addison at like wide receiver
forty one. I've got to go look, oh, okay, see
is that I look real fast? I don't know if
I'm in consensus or below consensus, I want to say,
I'm like, right, I.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Think you're a little below maybe.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
So he's wide receiver forty two in real time ADP,
so I'm basically right with it. Okay, consensus, and that's.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
That's kind of where I think it.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
I mean, it's a three game suspension, so I'm not
bumping him a ton his role in this offense because
his fantasy production has been so highly correlated to touchdown.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
So maybe he.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Takes the biggest knock here, but I think I still
think he's gonna have the end zone target role in
the offense and stuff, So it didn't bump him down
a ton. I'm not moving Jefferson at all like Alpha's
could Okay, Alpha's command alpha volume.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
That's noting.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Like if you're splitting hairs between him and Ceedee Lamb,
that probably puts like easily Ceedee Lamb over him. But agree,
he's still wide receiver three for me, I'm not moving
him down. It doesn't matter with that. But are your
ranks any different than mine before we kick this to Carolina?

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Nope? I have you know I already had Addison in
the wide receiver forty range right kind of there with
some names like Deebo, Samuel Cooper, Cup right behind Matthew
Golden and then Justin Jefferson for a few weeks. Now
I made the shift to put CD above him. I
don't think this will drop JJ another tier or anything
like that. So I think he's comfortable at the wide
receiver three overall and shifting over there to Caroline as

(08:11):
you alluded to, debro thought himss prime asking does Coker
have a chance to catch eighty balls? What does this
do for someone like Jalen Coker, who we said earlier
this offseason, He's a talented player, he has blocked in
a little bit. He needed an injury, a trade, something
like this to happen for him to get on the
field on a regular basis. Now he could be seeing
a lot of slot time in three wide receiver sets

(08:33):
for the Panthers. So where's Cocher right now? For you?
And also, I don't know if you could get any
higher on Tedo McMillan, But does this change your ranking
of t mac as well?

Speaker 2 (08:42):
So it didn't move Tedoro McMillan, because I've consistently been
one of the highest, if not the highest person in
the industry on him. Right now, I have about wide
receiver fifteen. Okay, we'll say though, and looking at real
time ADP right now, Tedoro McMillan is a wide receiver
twenty six. People are falsely going to bump him up
in ADP. So, wherever you're at on your host side,

(09:03):
first of all, yes, and I keep saying this, but
it's real. You need to bookmark real time ADP and
you need to keep up with this over the next
few days if you have a draft upcoming, because he
his ADP is going to skyrocket because people are gonna
say Adam Beelen's gone, it's wheels up for tetroem Millin.

(09:24):
And it's like, bro, he was already there. You like, like,
I'm not bumping him up anymore because he was already him.
He was already gonna be the unquestioned wide receiver one
in this offense. But I'm here to tell you people
are going to move him up because of this news,
which it's a nothing burger and how I'm projecting the

(09:45):
offense from a Tetro mu Millon stance. But I think, like,
I mean, tell me this, let's go through this real fast.
Seth sure, Teteroe mim Millan wide receiver twenty six. In
real time, ADP, tell me where where's the line? Does
he hop Quartlin Sutton? He already did, yeah, hop him
with the Rice news, but we already kind of knew

(10:05):
the Rice news.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, I would say in ADP, I think he will.
He will be ahead of him, but it's gonna be close.
DJ Moore does he hop him? I think so. Man,
it's a lot of mixed signals coming out of Chicago.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Vonta Smith does he hop him?

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah? I think so. Okay. George Pickens probably the line, Yeah, okay, yeah,
because Pickens has also been another one of those guys
who's just been shooting up draft boards. You've been remained
pretty consistent as him as a top twenty wide receiver.
But it feels like everyone's kind of playing a little
bit of catch up there.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
So basically what we're talking about here right now in
real time ADP Tedro mc millan's fifty ninth overall, So
somewhere like around the back end of the fifth round,
I think that's gonna I think that's gonna move up.
So like the range where I think he's gonna start
going is in the in the high forties. So I
think he's gonna be a fourth round pick when boards
all said, And I think so too. And that's fine

(11:01):
because if you're following my ranks, I've had him as
a third round pick. I don't have a problem get there,
like that's fine. So I mean, ted, this was a
nothing burger. Jimen Cocher, baby, I mean, it's its wheels up.
This is he is going to be the clear wide
receiver two in this offense. I moved him up to
wide receiver fifty two. That's probably even probably even a
little bit low, to be honest, man, but in that range,

(11:23):
it's just names that I have a hard time pumping
him up above like he's in that kind of like
Darnol Mooney, Debo, Cooper Cup, Michael Pittman. I mean there's
a definite, like if you want the upside swing in
that part of the draft, I think that I'm going
with Jaimen Cocher there because the numbers that he put
up last year were fantastic. He was out targeting and

(11:46):
earning more of a target chair than xavierly Get last year.
I don't see how that changes this year. I honestly
think the best three wide receiver set that Carolina can
come up with is ted at the X. I think
they should move leget into the slot and put power
saw Yeah as a Z. So I think you're gonna
get the field stretching moments the spike weeks. I actually

(12:07):
think probably they rotate Cocher and Legette depending on matchups
from the slot to Z because they still seem like
they're just like that. They're bent on seeing or evaluating
Lagette as a primer as an outside receiver. So I
still think Cocker is gonna get slot time. But dude,
it's still I mean, this is what you wanted if
you're an og cokead. Maybe people have called me the

(12:30):
founder of the institution, but if if you've been a
believer in Jalen Cocher, this is exactly what you wanted
to see.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
But where you at seth and yeah, balls, Yes, I
think that's very accurate. I haven't adjusted my ranks quite
yet to feel where where I will land him. Let's
do a little would you rather hear Jalen Cocher edition,
Cedric Tillman or Jalen co Cocher Not even close. I'm
out on se Keenan, Allen Coker, Michael and Junior. Oh

(13:01):
it's close, man? Is that is that kind of a
line there? It's kind of the line.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
And I mean where we're tiptoeing around right now is
wide receiver four range right right here?

Speaker 1 (13:13):
You want to draft him in that?

Speaker 2 (13:14):
And again, so wide receiver four range just so people
have an understanding where that is in my rankings.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
You're talking about like I.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Have him in the one twenties right now, Like I
have him one hundred and twentieth overall, So in twelve
team leagues you're looking at like a probably like a
tenth round pick is where I'm at?

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Is that too aggressive? Seth? It's aggressive? But I think
there are enough people. It's kind of a cult following
type of thing that I think there will be people,
maybe not in every draft, but maybe every other every
you know, one out of three drafts that are really
in on Jalen Kocher because it's a fun story, right
It's a guy who's coming out of Holy Cross and
SES programs.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Man, it's not just that it's a fun story exactly.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
And then, like you know, for you to not only
make the team as an undrafted free agent, at the
wide receiver position, but then for you to insert yourself
as a rookie to a point where you were getting targets,
and then for the Carolina Panthers, Dome was kind of
doubled down here and say we trust this guy enough
to move off a veteran like Adam Thlin, who has
been a staple here for the last two seasons. It
shows a lot, so I think that's probably right in

(14:21):
the range. I think I would feel comfortable ranking him
as a back end wide receiver for I will.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Say too, there is the irony is not lost on me.
The fact that Felin is getting traded back to Minnesota,
a former UDFA guy who yeah himself defied all the expectations,
has had a wonderful career, and that trade opening the
door to maybe somebody following this a similar path.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
It is very very cool. And shout out to Adam
Feelin who potentially has one last run here with the
Minnesota Vikings still holding on to that Minnesota Vikings NFC
North ticket that I got all the way back in
February plus four ninety. I am yeah, I am very
very excited to.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Hey, MVP bets, I got many to win the North.
I got out there for the bikes.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Man, I got let's go. It's gonna be a fun
year there for sure. Before we keep it moving and
get some more questions, I did want to remind everyone
that the team here at Fantasy Pros will be taking
questions all week on Twitch. We're doing our annual content
team live draft on Twitch on Tuesday at two pm
Eastern time, myself and Debro. We'll be back on Wednesday

(15:30):
at to Eastern for another Q and A, and then
we'll also have some more Q and a's coming away
on Thursday and Friday at five pm Eastern time. So
that's kind of what it's looking like here as we
approach the season. We'll be sure to update you what
the Twitch schedule will be like throughout the season as well,
but be sure gives the follow and ask questions live
right here on Twitch. We want to hear from you,
and I want to shout out some first time chatter.

(15:52):
Some new followers we have joining us today. We have
Za who just followed us. What's up? Za, thanks so
much for forgiving us that follow. We also have super
Kaizo Brock who just followed us, and Jay Wired twenty one.
Thank you so much and a bunch of first time
chatters that we're gonna get all your questions. Lonnie Ice, Jazz,
Jamie Gambit World, I see you all, thank you so

(16:15):
much here. I'm so excited to get to that. And
looks like, did you see that we just get dropped
on the private chat. It looks like we just have
a schefty bomb here that Texans general manager Nick Cassario
had was noncommittal about whether Pro Bowl running back Joe
Mixon will play in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
I've been saying it, he's off to this is poor dude,
I been saying it.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
This is why I get so upset though, with drafting
my most important leagues in late August, because I've been
drafting Nick, I've been way above consensus on Nick Chubb
is You're not a guy who I think is gonna
win your league. But if you need to go out
there in the early part of the season and throw
out someone in your RB two your reflex, I think
Nick Chubb can do that, and it maybe you know,
gives way to what he marks down the stretch as
well to potentially pop up. What do you think here

(16:59):
in this Texans backfield? It still has Damian Pierce, who
broke out as rookie for over a thousand yards as well.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
I would love to tell you that I have a
cemented running back take for the Houston Texans, but to
be honest.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Man, he's kind of been out as a whole happened.
I've been out.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
I think I've been there. I've been here and I'm
still here. The answer to the Texans backfield is to
invest more in CJ. Stroud, and it's to invest more
in the Houston passing attack. I mean, really, like, let's
talk about this seth on the rail. Are you gonna
build a ground game you're gonna lean on week after
week after week after week by Nick Chubb, Woody Barks

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and Damian Pierce.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Probably not, But you have to run the ball right,
you know, it's a fundament.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
There will be a guy that's gonna have flex value
or multiple guys depending on the week. That's the other
part about this. We know who Nick Chubb is and
who he isn't. He's not a pass catcher, so there's
also going to be a pass catching compliment to that.
He's not going to play the exact same role that
Joe Mixon played in this backfield. So you're gonna see
some what he marks. Hell, you might see some Damian Pierce,
because Damian Pierce was an underrated receiving option coming out

(18:06):
of Florida. Man Like he has receiving chops. So it
comes down to who do they trust in pass protection
and to be the weapon out of the backfield. Hell,
you might see some dollary weeks, dude.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
So I don't want any part of that. This is
investing Jade Higgins.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
As people are like, oh, Exavier Hotchinson's running abof him
in preseason.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
No, this is draft Jayson Higgins and draft Christian Kirk
the cheapest parts of this passing attack. You want to
bump Nico up a few spots, have at it. You
want to draft CJ. Stroud in the later rounds, and
we're on the bounce back season here for it.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Okay, all right, let's get some questions here before we
get some more of the news. De bro Bam bam
Branton asking what would you give up to acquire Austin
Eckler as a depth as depth as a contender, not
much of anything. I mean, like, are we talking dynasty?
Bam bam. Hit me with this, Yeah, thats and we're
talking dynasty. Yeah, I'm thinking fourth rounder if that, like,

(19:00):
I just don't. I think there's other death esses i'd
rather have that are a bit younger.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
It's a fourth I mean, like you're really hoping with
Austin Eckler.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
They're not.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
He had two concussions last year. They're not gonna load
him up a ton of volume and stuff like that.
I hate to tell everybody. And pushbacks push that pushes
back against the bill hype bills. A goal line back
Austin Eckler is not going to be that. We know
Eckler's role in this passing attack. And here's the thing
with Eckler, for everybody that's looking at how his season
rolled out last year, you don't think that Deebo Samuel

(19:29):
is coming for those short area targets.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
You don't, Okay, have fun with that.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
I'm not investing in Eckler a ton man like he's
gonna have a role in that offense. I just think
it's gonna be a better role for NFL than it
is for fantasy. Then people are looking at last year's
stats and what he did and it's like he's not
gonna be the workhorse. Dude had two concussions last year.
The team's not gonna do that to him, So like,
what are you hoping for? You got some Justice Hill
type of usable weeks and you don't know when they're

(19:57):
ever gonna happen. So yeah, you're like, all right, time
to flex Austin Eckler and he gets two points?

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Are you? Like?

Speaker 2 (20:03):
WHOA?

Speaker 1 (20:04):
I'm so happy. No, I'm just not. I'm not in it.
It was so funny because last year we did the
Scott Fishbowl Draft and he was someone who's actually pretty
valuable in that league because he was also manning some
kick returns and since I was rolling him out, pretty
happy that last year. But unless you're playing in like
a kick return yards league, Yeah, I don't really want
to give anything up up for Austin Eckler, not all

(20:26):
of it. Yeah, very true, very true. Uh. We got
Jazz here asking us, what do you think the best
position is in a twelve teen PPR draft. I'm leaning
towards nine through eleven. It sounds like you agree I
do as well, d Bro. That's that's my absolute favorite.
Is anywhere from nine back on that turn is where
I prefer to draft. Turn turn turn, turn, turn, turn.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Turn, and burn. I want to turn because you know
CMC has gone up we keep I've been mentioned this
on how like every live Twitch stream that we've done,
Like CMC moved out of this area, but you could
still get two of gent Nico BTJ London Like, those
are still fantastic starts if you believe in Devona a

(21:11):
Ham Like, you're still getting access to first round type
of profiles and upside at the second round. So like,
give me the turn all day. I think that's the
cheek code in drafts this year.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
We also have w Collins seventeen saying I got Trayvon
Henderson and Caleb Johnson in my draft. Should be worried
about starting two rookies or just be patient? I also
have Trey Benson and Brian Robinson Junior on the bench.
I like the patient approach here debro but I wouldn't
mind if I could go out and get someone who
I think could be a starter here early in the season.
Whether that is someone like we discussed Nick Chubb, or

(21:45):
whether that's at Jacksonville running back yeah, Jerome Ford or
Dylan Sampson. I ever you want to cut it up
there in Cleveland. I would probably go after one of
them just to wait, because I don't know what Caleb
Johnson's workload is going to be right off the bat.
I don't mind starting Travon Henderson in Week one, but
I'm a little bit worried, I think just throwing out
Caleb Johnson in that Week one matchup, what about yourself? Yeah,

(22:07):
I get that, because it is still Arthur Smith. It
is still Arthur Smith.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
We'll see some Darnell Washington rushing attempts in Week one,
like some kind of like ridiculous nonsense that leaves.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Us all saying why does he still call plays in
the NFL?

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Right?

Speaker 1 (22:24):
So, I mean you, as a Steelers fan, I do
not envy you, sir.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
You have to watch this mess the entire year and
just hope that it gets better next year.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
I know, I know, I'm just I'm just hoping that
all it all goes to DK metcalf all the volume.
I bet fire Smith this year, Like that's a Steelers
organization that hadn't fired a coach in a long time
in the mid middle Yeah, yeah, right, that's the one time.
But I mean that was an international incident, bro, we
had you know, soccer stadiums overseas, chanting Fire Canada.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
So is I think Chris Boswell was a big part
of that. So Boz, get on a baby, Come on, Boswell,
I'm believing in you. And do you remember that clip
was outside? He's like, this is not about you?

Speaker 1 (23:09):
What do you call it for? I was like, dude, you're.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Our hero, You're all of our hero.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Which just want to fuck you. When Boz was a rookie,
he would frequently stop up at the bars in my
college town and iep and everyone would be, oh, Boss
at the bar, to I Boz at the bar? So
uh I got a soft spot for Chris Boswell and
bombs with Boz at the bar. I was only like
eighteen at that time, so I was a bit young.

(23:35):
But uh I get I understand. So for non incriminating reasons,
you're not gonna mention this lie. I understand. Yeah, I
respect it. Yep, yep, exactly. I've criminated myself enough on
these airwaves before you have. We got Jamie in the
chat saying I'm drafting tomorrow night from the twelve spot
and twelve team at half point PPR League, Who would

(23:57):
you suggest grabbing? I feel like London is a must
if he still there. So, Derek, you always talked about
this four six pack of players that you have. You
want to run through those names once more if there's
any additions or subtractions from that list for our friend Jamie.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, I mean it's it's London. You're looking at gent
London BTJ. You're probably gonna see Pooka slide that late.
So like a dude, if you can start with like
Pooker Nico, Like, if you could start with like two
of those players, so gent London BTJ, Pooka, Like, however
you want to start, I want to get a running
back and go wide receiver and go yeah you want

(24:31):
to start wide receiver, wide receiver and go.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Full low t here for baby. Yeah. It's it's exciting,
man that that turn is such a fun spot. So nice, dude.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
I mean it's just you're like, these players should not
be available here, but.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yet they are. It's one of those things too that
I have found myself more and more from the turn
drafting wide receiver RB and getting gent paired with a
stud wide receiver and then coming back in the third
and fourth and maybe a Kenneth Walker's there. Maybe a
Kamar's there that I grab, but then I can also
grab another elite wide receiver, a Ttero McMillan. I have
seen Mike Evans falling in the back half of the

(25:06):
third round right now too, So I don't know, I know,
I've been been scooping him up, been scooping him up there.
So Jamie, thank you so much here for the question.
We appreciate it. And another one here from Jamie as well.
Jalen Coker Rashad Bateman. Oh, that's a good one. Not
even yeah, like that's that's easy for me. Coker. I

(25:26):
can't remember if it was you, if it was Celia
who said on a recent show, like you can draft
Rashad Bateman if you can tell me the weeks he's
gonna produce, Like yeah, like but that's like the truth.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
But that comes back to the point like where we're
talking about projectable roles and volume and stuff like that.
Do you want to get the Okay, let's run down
the target. Try for Baltimore it is Mark Andrews A. Flowers,
then maybe DeAndre Hopkins, Like do you want the fourth
the third or fourth option? Maybe the fifth option on
some weeks if it's a Justice Hill week. Do you

(25:58):
want that on your teams and to play that dice roll?
Or do you want the Carolina Panthers wide receiver two?

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yeah, yep, I'm in in consensus lock with you there,
Gambit World. I'm weaker at running back and tight end,
but I have Kelsey. Would it be a good idea
maybe look to move Travis Kelce for a rookie tight
end like Tyler Warren or Colson Lovelin and packaging some
running back depth to add some depth at the position there.
RB one is Chase Brown. RB two is Shuba Hubbard.

(26:28):
So I don't hate your your RB depth that you're
rolling out there, but Cuba, you know there could be
some regression coming in his way. But either way, I mean,
I like Tyler Warren just as much as I like
Travis Kelce. This year, I think he has as much,
if not more upside. So I'd be cool if you
could get yourself a little RB depth there and and
and send off someone like Kelsey for a Warren. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
I mean I would be looking at like packaging Kelsey
and Hubbard and go after if you can get craft
and an upgrade at running back like Bump higher into
that RB two tier, then I would absolutely do that. Yeah,
depending on like and you could do this sneaky like
say a team.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
As like Craft and RJ.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Harvey, Like a lot of people aren't in on Harvey
like I am, and they have Hubbard ranked above him,
or you know what I mean, like depending on living
on last year's points. So depending on this is basically
go go knock on the doors of I would look
at the Tucker Craft team and I would look at
the Mark Andrews team, because if either one of those
teams they value Travis Kelcey higher than either one of

(27:30):
those players, you could get an RB two upgrade over
Hubbard depending on the RB's and the RB depth they
have on their team as well.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yep, I like I always like tearing up. I always
like tearing up no matter how I can get there.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Two trades and you tear up and tier down a
little bit depending on your depth and roster build.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
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Speaker 2 (28:46):
That ring, that that is a reason enough to just
start a league on its own merit, just so when
you win it, you can make everybody kiss the ring
it next year's draft.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Like that is enough, dude, So funny enough. I was
actually in the group chat with the boys today talking about, Hey,
what are we gonna do for a new trophy because
deebra I broke the cardinal roll last year. I broke
the trophy on the way to the draft. It fell
on the back of my car as I was getting out,

(29:19):
And what kind of sacrilegious nonsense is this man? I know,
defending champion, I show up with a broken trophy up,
so tough scene. So we've been talking about what do
we want to do. We the league is called kegs,
so we're like, should we just get a keg and
make that. We've seen like, uh, kegs turn into urinals

(29:39):
and thought about maybe doing something like that for the trophy.
Maybe that would be something fun. But then today someone's like, hey,
let's just get a trophy smack ring, and you know,
then we can have something new every year instead of
a trophy that gets passed around once a year.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
So it's in consideration, like, you know, we're back in
high school and stuff.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah, here you go, you go. I never did the
class ring. Did you have a class ring?

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (29:58):
It a class ring.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
You know what The sad part about it is we've
so many times I couldn't even tell you where I
lost it. So I feel you, I feel you. Yeah,
I once was said, so high school was a long
time ago. I lost that and my letterman jacket.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Dude, I was. I was just gonna say. I moved
schools in my junior year of high school and someone
stole my letterman jacket out of my my locker for
my old school, and then I got a new one,
and I don't even know where that one is. So
I had two letterman jackets, spent good money on him,
don't have either of them to show for it. So
both of them are gone.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yes, jackets down, and it's it's been a rough.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Life, sir. It has, Baby, it has, But we keep
bobbing and weaving because that's what we do here at
Fansy Pros. And let's get it a question here from Noby.
I have the one oh one in a twelve team
keeper league where I'm keeping Chase Brown for a fifth
round pick and Trey McBride for a sixth round pick.
Well done there with keepers players like Bucky Irving, Devon Hchan,
Kirien Williams, BTJ, Puka Bowers, et cetera, or off the board.

(31:00):
So I'm wondering if I stay at one oh one
and take Jamar Chase, who is competing for touches with
Chase Brown, Or do I move to a later draft
slot and have a higher chance of getting two high
impact players around the turn. I'm worried that it will
be scraps left when it gets back to the two twelve.
Oh wow, this is this is a convoluted question here,

(31:22):
debro from our friend Nobi. How do you feel about it?
Do you take that instant value with Jamar Chase even
though you have another Bengals player like Chase Brown, Or
do you want to move back to that turn even
though some players like a Chan Bucky BTJ, Puka Bowers
already off the board.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
I mean, the problem is is that with anything we
get keeper questions like we don't have the full gambit,
sure everybody getting kept? And what that entire landscape looks like,
Because especially when you're talking about projecting out the draft,
like all the way to the two twelve, it's it's impossible.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Unless we know the full landscape.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
So like I would say, in a vacuum, I would
just take the known commodities and adjust in the draft,
you know what I mean? So like I don't have
a problem having Chase Brown and Jamar Chase, like that
doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Like to me, it's like you're making a bet on
the offense.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
And it really comes down to like, at the end
of the day, you should be asking yourself, do I
think the Cincinnati Bengals are a top five to ten
scoring offense or do I not? If the answer is not,
then you don't want to end us two parts of
pieces into that offense. And if you believe it, then yes,
do it.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Yep, I'm with you. There really really interesting question coming
in from Lonnie asking at the one oh seven and
twelve team half hepr League, are you taking CMC or Nico?
And if CMC, how would you shape your team around him?

Speaker 3 (32:44):
So?

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Are you still comfortable with taking Christian McCaffrey deebro It's
been a couple of days since we've chatted, so I
know you've had him right kind of there around that
one oh six to one oh eight mark. Is that
kind of still where you're currently stand? And would you
take him above someone like Nico? I would?

Speaker 2 (32:59):
I mean I've had him above Nico the entirety of
the offseason. CMC is my sixth overall player and I
said it throughout the entire But here's the thing, dude,
It's a binary decision. If you think he's healthy, tell
me and check and weigh in on this. Is there
a runout where Christian McCaffrey stays healthy and he's RB

(33:21):
fifteen this year, I will emphatically say hell to the no,
I don't think that that happens. So it really comes
down to do you think he stays healthy or do
you not think he stays healthy. If he stays healthy,
he could be the RB one overall this year. He
should be a top three to five back if he's healthy.

(33:43):
So it's as simple as that. If he's healthy, hell, yes,
you're taking him there, and you say thank you to
the rest of the league for giving this wonderful gift.
And if you don't think that he stays healthy, sure
avoid him. But I don't want to take Nico there
because I have other players even above Nico, like I
think Jayden Higgins and Christen Kirk and Jill and Ole
are going to steal some targets. And I'm not saying
Nico is not good or he's not awesome. I'm not

(34:06):
saying yes all, but I am saying that they are
going to be competition for him and new we didn't
see that last year. Because the other two wide receivers
in that offense went caput. So he came, he left,
he got a really really good volume, and he came
back and there was nobody else and he was the
only show in town. And that's fine. I'm not saying
that he's not elite. I'm not doing the Amana saying

(34:27):
Brown yesteryear conversations or Brian Thomas Junior or whatever. Nico
is gonna be awesome. But when I, like, when we're
splitting hairs between, I do not see a runout where
Nico Collins is the wide receiver one overall this year,
and I can easily see a runner where Christian McCaffrey

(34:48):
can be the top at his position.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
That's a great point and kind of building around CMC
if I'm taking any running back, in my opinion, before
that turn, before you know the ninth or twelve picks,
I gotta go wide receiver and try to make up
the difference there in the second round, like whether it's
Aj Brown getting back to you, whether it's maybe even
reaching a little bit for Jackson Smith Njigba in the

(35:11):
mid to late second round. I like that, and then
come right back in the third round Can I get
a T. Higgins? Can I get a Garrett Wilson? Can
I get a Mike Evans? Someone like that? Is that
how you would kind of build around CMC if you
did go running back at the one oh seven like
our friend Lonnie is about to. Yeah, I have no
problem with that.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
The other thing about it, and the way that I
kind of took this question, was how are you building
out your running back room around Christian mccaffy. Okay, and
so I don't disagree with any of the points you
laid out there. The other part about that I'll say
is I'm not building my running back room any differently
with Christian McCaffrey than I would be with Jamir Gibbs
or at Getting gent T or anybody else. Because here's

(35:49):
the thing I'm not hedging. If you were drafting Christian McCaffrey,
you were drafting Christian McCaffrey with the idea he is
going to smash, he is going to stay healthy, and
if you do not believe those things, you should not
be drafting Christian McCaffrey. So I'm not going to draft
him and hedge all the way down the board of well,

(36:09):
if he gets hurt because if you believe he gets hurt,
then don't freaking draft him.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Pretty simple, pretty simple. Yeah, you're making a decision. You're
either in or you're out on seem.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Like you are right. You either gonna be all in
and say he stays healthy, he smashes, and I'm right,
because you can't have it both ways. If you draft
him and you're hedging all the way down the freaking board,
then why the heck did you draft him? Because you
don't have conviction about it and you're building a suboptimal
team trying to account for a decision that you didn't
feel all the way through.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
On to begin with w Collins falling up on a
previous question that he has and somehow got Justin Jefferson.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Late first, it is people are insane.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
He also has Drake London, Lad mcconkae wide receivers, Tener
mcmill and Matthew Golden on his bench, so he's loaded.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
There.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Would that be enough with his stud wide receivers, so
Studley that you're okay with having someone like Caleb Johnson
as your RB two, or you may be trying to
move someone like Lad McConkie to go get a better
RB two. Nope, Now, fine with it.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Okay, Now, if you wanted to go from Lad and
Caleb to because in this yeah, in this uh, in
this world we're living in mccollins, Ladd your wide receiver three.
There's a lot of guys that I think that you
can he could tear down, like if you felt not
great about Caleb, and I understand it. It's Arthur Smith
blah blah blah blah, and don't hit me with any

(37:35):
of the preseason noise. I don't care about that. Like
Pittsburgh's offensive life, I couldn't forget block a two hour.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
They're not running Kenneth Gaine well out there. I can
promise see that. Oh that's not gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
People are over their skis and drunk if they think
that's gonna happen the whole year.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
But when you look so when you.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Look at Caleb Johnson, I understand any hesitation, I get it.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
The move I would make with Ladd.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Mcconkee is, could you tier down Lad McConkie, Could you
go from Caleb and Ladd McConkey down to George Pickens
and a running back upgrade Tedoro McMillan and a running
back up grade.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Boy already has Tedoro McMillan. Those that range where I don't.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Oh okay, I said I missed Ted here, so in
that range. Oh geez, well then just that I didn't
know you had my.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Bad Yeah, sorry, I apologize.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah, Ted is your wide receiver.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Three.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Then go trade Yead, either trade Lad and Caleb for
a running back upgrade or down.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Oh you could get from d to.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Like if you could get Ladd and Caleb and get
a running back upgrade and get somebody like Ricky Piersoll done.
Oh done?

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Yep mm hmmm, yep. I like that a lot. A
couple more questions here that we have coming in Dynasty.
Rookie draft Matthew gold or trade Harris. It's golden for
me now, just the fact that I think we have
to wait a little bit for Trey hair potentially break own.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
I'm on talent and I'm on prospect profile.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
I'm lower on Golden. Don't think you're still on Trey.
You're still on Trey, then I'm standing on man. I'll
say it with my chest. Okay, all right, so, uh
a house divided here for j Wired. But either way,
I think you're looking good there, Uh wanna be horsemen
picked from the seventh slot in my twelve team home

(39:23):
league walked away with Justin Jefferson, Maleak Neighbors, Chase Brown,
Kenneth Walker, ten Aroe, McMillan, Isaiah Pachaco, Calvin Ridley, Evan Ingram,
rahid Rice Strake made Justin fields just absolute monsters here.
Any thoughts on this team? I mean, how do you
not give that like an A A plus? Man? I

(39:44):
love that. I love that build except go ahead, go ahead. Well,
I was gonna say Evan Ingram is not my favorite
tight end target.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
I would rather if I'll say that that was the
first thing that jumped out. He's scared me more because
I was the whole offseason I was kind of projected
if it didn't may this move for him, they're gonna
run him eighty to ninety percent see him. Yeah, And
seeing him in week season, in week three of the
preseason and going like sixty four percent route per drop
back rate is not what you want to see.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Like that's Dalton.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Kincaid kind of territory that caps you absolutely. So yeah,
if anything, I would be like, could you could you
offer Evan Ingram and Tyler Algier to the person who
has Bijon depending on their their TI. Yeah, like that's
the first thing I would look at with this team

(40:33):
or how I would approach it, and seeing if you
could upgrade off of Ingraham depending now they might not have,
you know, a great tight end the other thing again
and go knocking on the door of because you just
got to kick the tires. You don't know people's thoughts,
or maybe you do on other players, like are they
higher on Ingram than they are Craft or Andrew's or

(40:55):
anybody in that kind of ILK or if you're higher
on like if anybody's higher on Tyler Warren, you know,
could you downgrade from from Ingram to Warren or something
like that? Like I think those are all like like
strong moves to make, or just pairing Algier and Ingram
and go to the Bijon team and say, hey, so
about your te one.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Great, this is absolutely just such a load team though,
because I mean you have justin Jefferson Elak neighbors and
then Chase Brown k dub double barrel shot quarterbacks. Let's
go yeah, yeah, those are two of my favorite late
round quarterbacks. So that you got there too, so well done.
I can tell you've been tuned into the Fantasy Pros
YouTube channel and the Twitch channel as well all off season, longhorsemen,

(41:36):
So very well done. There for you prediction for a
bill this season? Where do you currently have Jacory Krossky?
Mayor ak a little bill here?

Speaker 2 (41:46):
So mister Fitzmorris and us L for fighting him on
about him on Fantasy Draft Court if you want.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
To believe you won that debate, right, I did win
that debate, Thank you, sir.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
I do appreciate you puffing me out there a little bit. No,
I love pattydude. I think it's just more sentiment about
pro bill propaganda that it's real there and stuff.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
But I'm buying it.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
I have Bill currently, So Jacry Crossky merit at RB
twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Right now, I have him, Okay.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
I want to say, like in the low eighties of overall.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Let me double check that.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
I'm like, yeah, eighty first overall, so like in the
seventh round, back into the sixth round, if anybody wants
to take him anywhere from there, and everybody says, oh
it's too high, dude, where were you drafting Brian Robinson junr?
And if this is a better version of Brian Robertson junior.
And for all the haters out there, do you realize
that the Washington Commanders were top five in rushing attempts

(42:40):
inside the ten last year And if you take Jane
Daniels rushing attempts out of that equation, if you just
take him out, they were still fifth best, fifth best.
So that's the type of touchdown equity that Bill has,
Like he could score ten touchdowns this year. Is that
my medium projection for him? No, but it can happen.
And if that's the case, then you're looking at a

(43:02):
guy you're drafting as an RB three that could be
an RB two this year. So everything that just be
kind of rewind and remember everything that we thought about
Brian Robertson junior last year and apply that to this
year for his upside case.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Yeah, it kind of reminds you, like, not just to
be because he was a Washington Commander, but almost like
Antonio and Gibson's rookie year too, like a lot of
steam coming out late in the process went Owneder drafted
i think by a lot of people's metrics as well,
and then had just a sensational RB one caliber rookie seasons.
That's what we could be looking at for Bill as well. Seth.

(43:39):
We were talking about him on the Fantasy Pros NFL
Draft show way back when Bro.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Yeah, people need to tune into the receipts. This isn't
new for us. We've been in these Bill streets for
a minute.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Man. Oh it's it was great that I just got
to check all my Dynasty rosters in the past couple
of weeks and I was like, Oh, I have Bill there.
I forgot I have Bill there. Things I have built
there on the toilet. Yeah, it's one of these things.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
The toilet thing for Dejons and Fantasy is checking best
ball exposures, looking at Dynasty squads.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
You know, how am I going to pass the time?

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Or do it firing off the best Ball draft?

Speaker 1 (44:13):
All of the above, Yes, one hundred percent, Colin saying,
just been listening to debro all off season long, lol,
and one of the horses in Saint strictly listen to
only Fantasy Pro's best in the biz. We appreciate that
so much. Appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
We wouldn't be doing this, and you're talking on the
likes right now if it wasn't for everybody out there,
yep porting the content man, so yep.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Absolutely, we're very up there in the chat. Yep. We're
very blessed to do this. Thank you all so much
for the sport. Before we get out of here, I
do want to get to a couple questions, But first, Debro,
I wanted to quickly touch on the Rashid Rice situation.
Where are you at on Rice currently? I know this
was kind of factored into your rankings previously. So have

(44:55):
you moved Rice down a lot? Have you moved Worthy up?
I know you've kind of been a little bit lower
on Worthy than the consensus rankings so far this offseason.
I did move Worthy up.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
It's not gonna be high enough for people if they're
following my rankings, are gonna get any exposure to him,
to be honest, because of right now in real time ADP,
he is the wide receiver twenty four. I just can't
get my head around that, dude, Like I'm I'm sorry,
Like I just can't like it's it's where I'm at.
We got to take stands on certain players. I've been
out I'm worthy and I've bumped them to the wide receiver

(45:28):
thirty six. So I bumped him up a lot, but
it's still not gonna be enough if you're following my rankings. Now,
if you wanted to make a consensus, you know, and
that's what you're walking into with everybody here at Fantasy Pros.
I get it, then it's gonna bump him up the
rankings for you. I'm just on in on him, and like,
I see his role as he gets six games in

(45:48):
the Rashi Rice role, He's probably gonna be on everybody's
like trade high article that comes out like ahead of
week seven, trade him away before Rashii Rice, And it's like,
is that a player you really want? You want to
spend a wide receiver two price tag on a player
that like when Rice comes back, everybody's gonna be saying
trade him now, trade high, Like it's the article easy

(46:11):
sells Man, Yeah, Like and it's yeah, I can't get
my head around that. So, like, I'm not bumping him
up just to get the consensus when there's other players
that I see a more consistent path. And for the
entirety of the season, I did move Rice down just
a little bit because the way that I was playing
the market was I was more aggressive on Rice I
had him up at like wide receiver twenty four or
twenty five, playing the other game of like if the

(46:33):
suspension comes in less than what we all think.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Now I was wrong with that.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
I did move him down to wide receiver twenty eight
right now, So I mean, I've gotta see, like, I'm
sure that's below consensus in real time ADP.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Uh No, actually that's above.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
So he's wide receiver thirty two in real time ADP
seventy six. Overall, I have him a wide receiver twenty eight.
So I do want to stay above market on him, because, bro,
after he comes back after six games, he's gonna be
putting up borderline wide receiver one number. And that's a
player that like can be a difference maker. Like when
he hits your lineup and he's producing as a top

(47:07):
fifteen wide receiver and he's your wide receiver three, you
just mowing people down.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Yeah. Drafting Xavier Worthy kind of reminds me of getting
like food court Mexican food. It could go really well,
it could be explosive, but at the same time, it's
a bit of a risk that you're not gonna like
what comes out the other end.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
In the same Chinese buffet or yeah, yeah, that's the
station brito.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Oh oh no sushi? Okay, Well, I think if you're
a sick of and you eat gas station sushi, you
deserve coming for. It's so low rapid fire. Before we
get out of here, deepro, take a victory lap on
your guy, Thomas Madone. Yeah, it looks like dolcis won

(47:54):
the hair game. But but THEO, THEO and Fidon just
a much better tight end. So yeah, good for is
a galloping gazelle. Bro.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Like, if he gets into the lineup, he's gonna be
good man. He was, he was underrated as a prospect.
There was a lot of the injury history that really
hurt him. I think double acls that he's back from.
But dude is I mean, he's athletic as I'll get
out man. And I tweeted this out the other day,
if one, because the Giants keep swinging on this archetype

(48:24):
of tight end, super stupid, athletic and monstrously huge. They
did it with Daniel Bellinger, they did they signed Greg Dulsic,
they did it with drafting Theo Johnson, and they did
it with Thomas Fadone. Like one of these guys, is
gonna hit and open up a different part of this
offense that we have not seen yet. Maybe that theo Johnson.
Maybe it's Thomas. I don't know, man, I want to

(48:46):
bet on Thomas to the train here.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
What do you guys think about Sakuon Barkley for Ceedee
Lamb and Trey Benson. I do have Lamb ranked higher,
so I would like the Lamb side. I'd like the inside.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
But give me somebody else besides Benson unless you have
Connor like yeah, and for me too. But I mean
it just like I would straight up, I would rather
Lamb over Saquan, though I agree.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
I think it depends how you built your team here,
because if you went if you went Saquan early, you
might not have other good running backs. But if you
have the capital, I think I think it's okay. Uh bandit.
I took McBride no. The second round in twelve team
at PPR tight End Premium League too early. No, I
think that's fine, deebro. I think Trey McBride in the
second round for tight end Premium league's.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Fine of non tight end premium leagues, that's fine. I
mean yeah, to be honest, the most tight end premium formats,
you might see one of these elite guys, whoever the
tight end one in the rankings, go in the first round,
So to get McBride in the second totally fine.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Cool Dilly also, who had some praise for US earlier.
What's up, Dilly, thanks so much for hanging out with us,
picking ninth out of ten and keeping Melik neighbors for
my six round pick. Should double tap wide receiver at
nine to eleven? Or why fall out of good enough
running backs if you already have neighbors. I would really
prefer that you went with a running back and a
wide receiver. There, get another elite guy, yeah, go ahead,

(50:02):
said sorry, no, no, no, I mean like grab a BTJ,
grab a Nico Collins, grab someone in that end, and
then you know again Ashon gent CMC, Derek Henry or
one of those guys around. I just think there's no
point in a ten team league, especially going that long
without a running back. No, I agree.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
And the other thing about it is with the keeper
format again, like we don't know what the climate looks
like for the keepers and stuff, you know, I mean,
so yeah, don't know what running back looks like. So
You're not gonna be caught with your pants down if
you go with a more balanced Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Not gonna be caught in the in the bathroom of
a gas station after eating one of their burritos and
having a rough go. That's for sure, go even worse.
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