The Best of the Fest: Breakouts, Busts, Rankings & Sleepers From Fantasy Football's Top Analysts (Ep. 1658)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros. This is the best
of Fantasy Fest twenty twenty five. It's me joeyp Joe
Pi Zapia And in case you missed it and you
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So go over there right now, watch the playlist, have
some fun take notes, get ready for all of your drafts,
and we're gonna kick things off here today with JJ
zacharieson the late round, QB Man himself talking about some
birding questions, along with our own worm and Andrew Erickson.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
So let's dive right into the fest.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Right at the top, Let's go to our wide receiver question, Erickson,
you always hear about how deep wide receiver is every season.
Now doesn't actually feel that deep to me this year,
at least maybe compared to other years. It's deep, but
it feels like I want to be getting guys in
the first X number. You can kind of quibble with
how deep it is. I don't want to be kind

(01:17):
of taking a lot of lottery tickets late, though, Like
I really do feel like the depth is maybe overstated
in the previous years. Is maybe the better way to
put it. Is this a good year in your opinion?
Ericson to hammer at the position early and avoid getting
burned by maybe a perceived lack of depth. By me, Well, I.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Think it's deep at the top, if that makes sense,
because the guys that were usually drafting round one are
now trickling into round two. It's just crazy to think
that Brian Thomas Junior let all rookie wide receivers and
receiving yards last year and he's a second round pick
Like that usually doesn't happen. So I think it's deep
at the top where you're looking about Okay, who could
be a top five wide receiver this year. I think

(01:54):
there's a lot of guys that kind of fall into
that territory. I think that it's maybe a list of
eleven or even twelve wide receiver. But then to your
point about the depth after that, going into the next
couple of tiers, I think that's where you start to
see things kind of get diluted with some of these receivers.
And I think it's always important to think about we're
talking about strategies. We talk about late round quarterback, talk

(02:14):
about late round running back, talk about late round tight end.
We don't talk a lot about late round wide receiver
just because it's definitely the hardest one to identify and
hit on because you have to get opportunity and talent
right like, you need to hit on multiple things. So
it doesn't mean that there's no late round wide receivers
that can hint. Yes, there are guys that we like,
but it's just so much easier for those other positions
to hit. So when you are in those later rounds,

(02:37):
I want to be scooping up running backs like that's
who I want to be targeting. That's why I want
to be loading up my bench with running backs or
tight ends if I want weighted at the position, and
goes back to the point earlier. So instead of going
with an early round tight end, early round quarterback drafting
receivers I feel good about and confident about in those
earlier rounds. It makes me feel better about my entire
roster when it's all said and done.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Jaj, I'm curious what you think, and I don't want
to make it seem like there aren't any players I like,
like a mechag Buka going in the mid forties at
wide receiver. Yes, I love that, like there are players
that I like, but I think you get to even
like the mid twenties. And I'm just reading through in
the expert consensus rankings. You know, tedteror Oa, McMillan, Jameson Williams,
Xavier were these a Flowers, George Pickens, Jalen Watta, Rashi, Rice,
Chris Olave. There was upside there, but there's also a

(03:20):
lot of question marks. And I just don't maybe feel
as as sturdy with the guys after the folks at
the top in those first couple of rounds. How do
you see the position as deep versus shallow?

Speaker 5 (03:30):
Yeah, I think that the interesting part about wide receiver
this year is I agree with with Andrew about the
idea that it's pretty deep up top. I mean Drake London,
for instance, would we be shocked if London ends up
as the overall wide receiver one in Fantasy football this year?
I don't think it's like nearly out of his range
of outcomes. Even AJ Brown. You know, I just talked
about how I like the Philly passing attack. You know,

(03:52):
obviously he's banged up right now, but AJ Brown has
basically been a fourteen hundred yard wide receiver every year,
you know, pro rated for the games he's missed every
year in Philade. The thing that I've really noticed is
that when you get to that sort of next tier,
there's sort of a dead area, maybe after the JSN range,
just because you know, DeVante Adams has a lot of
question marks right now. With Matthew Stafford, otherwise I would

(04:12):
be way into to add with, But like Garrett Wilson,
we're like, okay, what's that looking?

Speaker 6 (04:16):
Like Marvin Harrison Junior.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
I mean, we could see the upside, but there's a
lot of question marks about there really wasn't that much
change in that offense, So how can we be so
sure that there's gonna be that much change for Marvin
Harrison Junior? And so I keep going on that list,
and then we get to that giant, giant tier that
you were just talking about Ryan, where you have a
lot of question marks, but you can see clear upside cases,
right Ted McMillan, Sorry, Tetor Row, I don't want to

(04:40):
make his mom upset. Teteroe McMillan, someone who I like
a lot as a prospect. We obviously can see the
upside case George Pickens in an offense that should throw
like one hundred and fifty more times than the offense
that he's coming from, you know, as the two alongside
Ceedee Lamb, you could see the upside case for him.
Davante Smith even you could see the upside case for

(05:00):
DeVante Smith last year when one of Dallas Goddard or
AJ Brown were out, he had a thirty one percent
target share per game rate, Like the dude is awesome
when one of those guys are out.

Speaker 6 (05:08):
Even when they're not, he's still a very usable player.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
So what I've kind of done at wide receiver this
year is I'll often get it I mean, I'll get
at least one in the first two rounds typically because
of the guys that we talked about earlier, like we
feel very good, we feel very secure about them. But
once you get into those middle rounds, I mean, I
just generally am chasing upside, and there's a lot of
upside to chase in that area, Whereas then I'm kind
of avoiding the small hit, big miss type wide receivers

(05:33):
where the big miss isn't so much that they're going
to just fall flat on their face, like Courtland Sutton
or Ze Flowers. Those are two of my go to
examples here. I don't think they're going to fall flat
on their face. I just don't think that we're going
to see necessarily a top twenty, top fifteen wide receiver
season from those guys, given the fact that Sutton's never
been a top twenty four wide receiver in PPR points
per game, and you have probably a less volume in

(05:56):
that offense this year from a passing perspective, because I'll
get the defenses and they added to the running.

Speaker 6 (06:00):
Backs Zay Flowers.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
Uh Baltimore has been a top or sorry, bottom three
pass rate team over the last few years, like there's
just not as much volume to go around. And so
I look at that range and I say to myself,
all right, if I'm gonna get an anchor at wide
receiver early on, and I throw two or three darts
at this range, including like the Amecha Bukas of the world,
the Ricky Piercell's of the world, I throw a few
darts at those guys. I think that one of them

(06:24):
will hit. And if I get two or three of
those types of players that are gonna be week in
and week out wide receivers and solid players for me,
and I get that anchor at running back early, then
I think my team's looking good.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
I keep doing the same thing, by the way, where
I'm like, oh yeah, Teed Rowan mcmill and I'm like, oh,
let me. I don't want to spum to get mad
at me either. So given this conversation, like I find
myself very often if I'm picking near the end of
the first round, I'm just very happy to double up
on receivers. I love the receivers there, and I'm just
feel so confident there. And I also like kind of

(06:55):
like some of these running backs and everything that are
going to be available in rounds three, four, and five
more so than I usually do. So if you are
doubling up at the receiver position with a late first
round pick, do you have like a favorite two? I
know you mentioned JJ, Drake London and n aj Brown,
Like I love London this year. I mean I love
all these guys, right, Like, if I can get Nico
to fall to me like Bryan Thomas Junior, Lad mccacky,
a lot of people really like, do you have like

(07:15):
a favorite pair of those two?

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (07:17):
I mean, look, if Nico falls pretty high on Nico,
I think that he's a top five wide out in
fantasy this year, just giving his peripherals last year. I mean,
he just keeps getting better and better and better. I
do worry about the offensive line a little bit. And
then Drake London's the other one. I mean we could realistically,
it's just wildly the market really hasn't reacted to the
Darnell Mooney injury. Not to say that we should like

(07:38):
overreact because he seems like he's going to get back
at some point, but we all just assumed that he's
gonna be back week one because that was what was
being reported. Then Raheem Morris was like, yeah, he'll be
back at some point this year, and it's like what wait, what,
Like is he I thought he was gonna be okay
and fine, and so like we saw thirty percent plus
target shairs from Drake London last year in that small
sample with Michael Pennix. I don't see how that doesn't

(07:59):
have been especially with Darnell Mooney banged up. So Drake
Lennon would probably be the other one that I think
it's just a little bit undervalued right now, so probably.

Speaker 6 (08:08):
I mean, like if you could somehow see Nico.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
Fallens fall and get Drake London, or you know, even
if you're in like the one oh nine spot or
something like that, and you're able to get Nico in
the first round because you know that the market hasn't
reacted enough to stuff going on in Atlanta, and you
get Drake London in the second round.

Speaker 6 (08:22):
I mean, that's chef's kiss. You're You're good to.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Go ericson really quickly. Do you have a favorite pair
in that range?

Speaker 4 (08:28):
I mean I think it. I love Nico, I love
Drake London, and Pooka is probably the one that I
feel like I'm getting potential value on if he falls
a little bit because of people that are concerned about Stafford.
But Pooka, I think just can have so much success
in this offense. I think almost regardless of who the
quarterback is. I think that if Jimmy Garoppolo, yes, I
think you're probably more concerned about DeVante. But Poka Nakua.

(08:50):
Of the last two seasons since joining the NFL, he's
fourth in the NFL in receiving yards, and he has
to score touchdowns eventually. DeMarcus Robinson scored seven receiving touchdowns
last year. Pooka Nico has scored nine in his career.
I just can't believe that he's not gonna find the
end zone. And something that I looked at when I
was looking at just receiving yards and how it's going

(09:12):
to project touchdowns in the future. Entering last year, there
were two guys that had two thousand receiving yards with
low touchdown totals. One was Chris Olave, the other was
Terry McLaurin. We obviously saw one of those guys hitting
monster touchdown total last season. So when you were looking
at players that have a ton of yardage over the
last two years, one of them is Drake London. One
of them was pooking to cool and the other one
is a receiver. We didn't mention him, but George Pickens

(09:34):
is another guy who's put up monster yardage, but the
touchdowns haven't followed. But what's the number one projector of
future fantasy success and touchdowns is just getting yards and
it shows that those players are good. So one did
Nico Collins for me, and I think though we can
just look at Week one matchups two those guys look
like they're going to be out starting the season hot
out of the gates. Texans are playing the Rams. We

(09:54):
know the Rams secondary is not that great. Nico Collins
is gonna ball out because that's what he does. And
Drake London are playing Buccaneers. I mean, what else they
have to ask for? Just shootout Scalore with that Falcons team.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Great stuff from the boys there.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
And of course, when you're talking about great minds of
fantasy football, perhaps nobody better than Andy Barons, who's got
his own podcast working right now him in Dalton Dell Don.
Very exciting times for Andy, and Andy was nice enough
to stop by and chat with Ryan and Ericson about
some wide receivers and some running backs who have potential
to break out in twenty twenty five. So here are
the names that these guys are chatting about.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Ericson you messaged me this morning saying, after last night,
you had to change your running back pick here. So
who do you have for us now?

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Oh? Yeah, I'm going with Bill Crosskey Merritt running back
for the Washington Commanders. Now, I felt like I was
doing a disservice by not least bringing him up on
the show when we're talking about running back breakouts, because
he's checking off every single box of that type of
player that is going to drastically beat his ADP. And
I think there's still an edge to anyone that's watching

(10:59):
this right now. There's an opportunity for you to get
him in your fantasy draft because the ADP is just
not going to catch up to the rise of that
JACOI Crossky Merit is in most of your home leagues.
So I want to make sure that you are pulling
him up your draft board to make sure that you
get him with one of your later round picks, because
he's going to take the NFL by storm this year.
I think you know Brian Robinson, the he's going to

(11:21):
get traded, like it seems very convinced, and even watching
the game last night the broadcast, they're very convinced that
he wasn't even at the stadium, Like this is like legit,
Like they're kind of like we're moving on from Brian Robinson,
like he's not going to be part of our plans.
And if they can't trade him, maybe he's a cut candidate. Again,
he's in the final year of his contract. And this
is why it's so hard to buy into running backs
that are average. If you're not special at the running

(11:41):
back position, teams will look to replace you in upgrade.
And so far throughout camp cross k Merrit has looked
like the explosive part that can be an upgrade over
Brian Robinson, who's been fine. But now you're getting a
running back that okay, worst case scenarios, crossk Merrit. Can
he just be Rian Robinson? Yeah? I think that that's
what the commanders think. But now there's room for upside.
And don't him being a seventh round rookie running back,

(12:04):
it doesn't really describe I think what his actual talent
level is because he dealt with a lot of eligibility
issues last year, he got screwed over by the NCAA,
only allowing him to play in one game this past
year at Arizona, which he actually looked really good in.
But the year before at New Mexico Monster twenty twenty
three campaign, he was PFF's fourth highest grade running back
in twenty twenty three thirty three percent dominator rating. And

(12:28):
then the one game that he did play this year,
thirteen carries for one hundred and six yards and he
broke a ton of tackles. And then the next time
he got to play was in the Shrine Bowl, and
you know who won Offensive MVP to Corey krossky Merrit.
So this guy's pretty good at football, but he just
didn't get a chance to play, which is just such
a disservice to him. So I think that it's his
revenge tour here as a rookie for the Washington Commanders. Again,

(12:51):
the seventh round draft cap does not reflect how good
of a talent he is. And I liked him a
lot as a prospect, and I thought that, Okay, maybe
if this guy gets some opportunities, he can maybe use
Sir Brian Robinson. But it seems like the team is
already making that decision and they're ready to move forward
with Jakoori krossky Merrit again. Not necessarily three down workhorse.
Austin Eckler will still be involved, especially on the passing

(13:11):
down side of things, but in terms of early downs
who could see red zone opportunities. Chakoy Cross ky Merritt
looks like the guy and he should be available in
all of your drafts because the ADP. I don't think
he is going to quite catch up to where you
can actually get him.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
He's jumped up in the rankings to RB seventy in
the half PPR rankings. I'm curious to see where the
ADP does land. We're actual launching a new feature it's
not available yet but called real Time ADP with Fantasy
Pros that would be really helpful for situations like this,
to see where he is going in the most recent drafts.
When stuff like this happens, Andy, what is the correct
stance on Bill krossky Merrit is. I don't know if

(13:46):
it's a hot take or a measured take, but what
is the correct approach here? Given like there's this huge
swell of hype and excitement surrounding him, but he still
is somebody who's like going pretty late in drafts, and
like he had like what two good runs yesterday, So like,
is it more of a measure take or are you
kind of jumping on the bandwagon.

Speaker 7 (14:03):
Yeah, I do want to say to the point about
him still being really cheap in drafts. I was in
an auction two nights ago, and this was like just
exclusively industry people, people who write about this for a living.
Everybody knows who Crosskey Merit is, and we have for
a long time. It's not like he didn't sneak up
on anybody in here. I had a little bit of leverage.

(14:24):
At the end of the auction. I got him for
two bucks. Like that's where you can still get him.
I'm not totally sure why he's available at that price
this late into the preseason, but it's actually true. I'm
surprised to hear you say that he's in the seventies
at the position. That seems wild to me. I mean,

(14:45):
they're not even just telegram. They're telling us where this
situation is headed, and Brian Robinson has head it out
of town and it's going to be Crosskey Merrit's job
for the most part. Again, it's not going to be
you know, I agree with everything that's already been said.
I don't think he's going to be ninety percent of
the touches. Obviously, Austin Eckler is going to continue to
be Austin Eckler, but this is going to be a
pretty beefy role in an offense that I think we're

(15:08):
all pretty excited about. So I don't really see any
reason why he shouldn't already be ranked in the thirties,
perhaps already ranked ahead of Brian Robinson.

Speaker 8 (15:16):
I think that's totally reasonable.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Right now, let's go to the wide receivers here, Andy,
who do you have for us?

Speaker 7 (15:21):
Yeah, for me, this is Ricky Piersoll. And it's not
like he's sneaking up on anybody. But if we're just
looking for a breakout candidate, this man is already the
niners number one wide receiver entering the season. He is
one of the few healthy members of the receiving.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Corps as we enter the year.

Speaker 7 (15:38):
He also, I mean number one, he was whatever, it's
just preseason. He looked great the other day. It was
forty two yards on three catches, in perfect sync with
brock Party. He's had a pretty normal off season after
having the least normal off season of all time as
a rookie, right, So that is a huge difference. Just
being in the program in a normal way makes a

(15:59):
huge difference. We also got, you know, we got proof
of concept from him in the final two games last
year when he looked like an absolute star. Fourteen catches
on eighteen targets, two hundred ten yards, a couple of touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
This is this is.

Speaker 7 (16:13):
Just one of those cases where you know, a lot
of the time a wide receiver will come into the
league and they got a little bit of size and
they test like a superhero at the combine, but when
they get on the field, we don't. We don't really
see it.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Well.

Speaker 7 (16:26):
I mean, Pearsall has a forty two inch vertical and
you know he's got four to four speed, and you
see it like you can feel it. Every time he
touches the ball. Every touch looks like it like it
could end in the end zone.

Speaker 8 (16:40):
Right.

Speaker 7 (16:40):
I just think he's been spectacular. We're in a we're
in a big play offense. I think everybody knows that.
Historically Kyle Shanahan's teams, man, those those quarterbacks produce some
some pretty serious yards per attempt. We're getting a lot
of big plays here. They scheme up some fun stuff
and a lot of that is going to go to
Piersoll Brandon Ayuk probably not going to see him for
a month and a half maybe more. This is this

(17:02):
is kind of Pearsall's receiving room, and I think he's
ready to roll.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
I was surprised, so is His expert consensus ranking is
wide receiver thirty seven. That's not that surprising to me.
What is surprising is he's the type of player that
I anticipate his ADP being that he goes higher than
what his ranking is. It's actually lower. His ADP is
wide receiver forty two. That did surprise me. Andy, Where
are you, like, are you reaching to take Pearsalt to
make sure like planning your flag? I want to get

(17:28):
this guy on my team. Are you trying to get
him right around where his ranking is? Is there around you?
Could you could assign him to you to say, if
I can wait till this round and get him, I'm
really happy.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, it's funny.

Speaker 7 (17:38):
This This is another one where I'm kind of a
fraud in the rankings because wherever I have him, I
think of him as I mean, I think of him
as a wide receiver.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Too right now.

Speaker 7 (17:45):
And if you want to call him a low end
wide receiver too, that's fine, but he is. He is
quite obviously the niners number one receiver. So I start
looking at him when we you know, when we get
down to that, and I'm not saying that I'm taking
him ahead of these guys, but like when we get
into that group and we're talking talking about Marvin Harrison,
we're looking at Courtland Sutton and we're looking at DJ
Moore and those are the names I'm you know, that's

(18:06):
not a bad spot for me to pivot to running
back for a second and then come right back with
with Ricky Piersoll, who again, like I think he's given
us eleven hundred yards this year. I think these are
very solid wide receiver two numbers ahead of us.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
And the nice thing Ericson is like Andy, just say
you don't have to draft him right after Marvin Harrison
Junior goes. You can wait and then get him later
and feel like you're still getting you know, a guy
who's going to produce a similar amount.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Yeah, I think that the way that Andy described Rickey Pearsoll,
it just to me, he seems like one of the
easiest clips you can make in fantasy football, Like, even
if he doesn't hit his ceiling outcome where he is
going over eleven hundred yards, you're getting him wide receiver forty.
That's where we're betting on a former first round pick
in a great offensive ecosystem, attached to a quarterback that

(18:51):
we are confident in, Like we're confident that Brock Berdy
can support Fantasy Vibe weapons a lot of times in
this range with the receivers, we're like, I don't know
if Prisa Love like who is the same quarterback? Like
you were concerned about that, But it's one of these
things where we feel great about the quarterback being able
to support Ricky Piersall and the thing that I can't
get out of my mind and just going off to
his off season and how different it is from last year.

(19:14):
You know, two years ago, entering the twenty twenty three season,
the training camp reports for Brandon Ayuk were off the charts.
They were this guy so dialed in and ready to go,
and what I You had a monster year and then
got paid by the forty nine ers, And that's really
been the drum beat for Ricky Piersol this year because oh,
he's actually getting able to get reps with the starting
quarterback with Rock Perdy. So to me, the Piersoll bet

(19:36):
this year is kind of similar to JSN last year,
where his first round pick doesn't necessarily hit. He also
entered the season he was a little bit banged up.
I think it's the exact same coming bet because he's
a super talented player, catch to a great quarterback and
a great offense with opportunities like Juwan Jennings is not,
Deebo is gone, i uk is hurt. So I just
I couldn't agree more. And I'm glad that Andy put

(19:57):
him on the list because if he didn't, I was
going to.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Fantasy football is a game we love, and another game
that we love is would you Rather? And our own
Terror Roberts, who's back here Fantasy Pros. We're so happy
she's back joining us for the twenty twenty five season.
She got to chat with Ryan and debro about some
would you rather so? Two players? Who would you rather pick?
These are the important questions that need answering here as
we head into draft season, So we want you to

(20:21):
make the right decisions. Let's hear the takes from this
gang about who they would rather have this season for
fantasy football.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
All right, let's go to another receiver pairing here, Tyreek
Hill or Davante Adams. Tyreek is wide receiver fourteen in ECR.
DeVante Adams is wide receiver sixteen. So these guys are
really close. Tara, you have Tyreek Hier, Debro, you had
Davante Higher. I'll start with you on this one, Debro,
why do you like DeVante Adams so much?

Speaker 9 (20:46):
I mean, dude, it's just there's no fall off. I
feel like we're getting values on some of these older
wide receivers. And I'm not telling you like it's time
to send DeVante Adams to the glue factory.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Man.

Speaker 9 (20:55):
I think he's still got a lot of good football
left in him. You look at what he did to
do with New York Giants last year. Amongst seventy nine
qualifying wide receivers, twenty second in separation twenty seventh a
round win rate. Do was on pace for one hundred
and four receptions with them as the wide receiver seven
in fantasy points per game. So I don't see any falloff, man.
I think the only big question about Adams and where

(21:16):
people want to rank him is what are your thoughts
on Matthew Stafford. And also in that convo, if Stafford
is out and right now I am projecting like Stafford
to probably miss some games during the season, I'm not
that worried if we're going to get that much of
a falloff from Jimmy Garoppolo or Stetson Bennett. This is
still going to be an offense designed by Sean McVay.

(21:36):
We still know where the freaking ball is going. It's
going to Pooka, and if it's not going to Pooka,
it's going to Adams. So as a volume, bet as
a talent, bet as a I'm betting on the system
and the offense here. I am totally fine taking to
Vonte Adams, even with some of the questions swirling around
Matthew Stafford. I would much rather risk it for the

(21:56):
biscuit with Devonte Adams in that situation. And this is
not throwing shade against Harror like with with any Tyreek love.
Tyreek scares the ever loove and crap out of me
this year, like I'm worried Miami, but could be just
a total tire fire by week six.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
You were on Davante early de bro this offseason, and
I was right there with you, like you totally not
that I needed much you know, pushing, but you totally
won me over. I'm like, yes, Like Davante is a
great value. Stafford back stuff, man, Like nobody ever used
to have a bad back. When you have a bad back,
you pretty much have it forever. And that's for people
who aren't taking violent hits all the time in this

(22:35):
incredibly physical sport and who are already into their late thirties.
So that like that angle is really hard for me
to not be nervous about setting that aside. If you
could promise me health, then yeah, Like I think DeVante
is an insane insanely good pick this year, honestly, Like, like,
I think it all makes sense. But that Stafford stuff
is scary now, Tyreek scary maybe just for other reasons,
Like his own quarterback obviously has a different kind of

(22:57):
you know, health concern kind of looming over everything. He's
also an older wide receiver who's you know, relying on
on speed and maybe that doesn't age as well. You know,
we'll kind of see. But Tara, you are not scared off.
You have Tyreek Cranks his wide receiver, twelve five spots
ahead at DeVante Adams. So why is this the older
receiver that you're going for.

Speaker 10 (23:15):
Yeah, we're talking about scary and I and I don't
fault you deabro for being scared of Tyreek Hill. I'm
not gonna lie. When he started opening his mouth this offseason,
I got a little bit scared too, because he wants
chemistry there. We don't want all of that, you know,
chemistry anti chemistry, yapping going on. But at the end
of the day, we're talking about upside, and I love

(23:36):
DeVante Adams and I am pro Davante Adams too. I
think my lean on DeVante Adams is less towards raising
him up and actually more towards his impact. Maybe downgrading
Puka a little bit.

Speaker 6 (23:46):
That's another story.

Speaker 10 (23:48):
But when I'm looking at Tyreek Hill and I'm shooting
for that ceiling, we are not that far removed from
him leading the league in receiving yards. The upside is
extremely high when we look at what he did last year,
and his production is definitely tied to the health of
Tua Tugga blow right, and if we could guarantee Tua

(24:08):
would be healthy and good to go for an entire season,
he would be somebody that people would probably be looking
at consistently in the first round. But since we can't
guarantee that, we do get a little bit of a
discount on there. But I will say that typically, speaking
before last year, if there was one person in the
offense that was more to a proof, it was Tyreek Hill.

(24:28):
But when you add in the factors of the risk
injury that he had last season, which was obviously a
random thing, not an age regression issue, the legs are
still fine. And then you throw on top of that
the fact that Mike McDaniel started to get really cute
with the offense and wanted to make Johnny Smith the
receptions leader in that offense, which was fun from a
fantasy perspective for those of us that tied in, but

(24:51):
not super fun for Tyreek Hill, Jalen Waddel and even
sometimes Devon Agen when you look at his removal there.
That's a big factor for me as well, because we
are going to get a shift in target share Tyreek
Hill going back, and I actually like all of the
Dolphins players as we lose john Newsmith in this offense
and get back to what this offense was originally. And

(25:11):
when I look at him and the upside and opportunity here,
it's just so high. And I absolutely love the Dolphins
schedule as well.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
I've always had a problem.

Speaker 10 (25:19):
With Tua in terms of drafting him specifically because once
you get to the end of the season and towards
the fantasy playoffs, you get into those cold weather games
where they're going to Buffalo and whatnot, and he just
can't perform there. They have a beautiful playoff schedule that
includes two home games against two bad defenses in Tampa
Bay in Cincinnati, and I can't pass that up. The

(25:40):
upside for all of the Dolphins players at that point,
if you're in the fantasy playoffs, would be literally league
winning upside here. So I'm it's riskier for sure. If
you're looking for stability. Davante is definitely the safer pick,
but the higher upside swing for there. For me, there
is definitely going to be Tyreek Hill.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yeah, you know, I was really out on Tyreek early
in the off season and I just felt like, you know, again,
he's into his thirties now, there's been some injury stuff,
that there's questions in the offense, there's questions about his
quarterback health, and I would just rather go a different direction.
That was so much of a consensus opinion at least
on the shows that like we were talking about him,

(26:17):
that I almost started to feel like, well, maybe we're
going too far in the other direction. And Tara, of course,
you know, is going you know, kind of against the grain.
From that perspective, I find it interesting. So we have
this cool it's called consensus draft sentiment and on all
the player cards, if you look at the rankings on
fantasypros dot com, it'll kind of highlight just kind of
the sentiment like based on the write ups and everything,

(26:37):
like an overall and upside and then a bust you know, likelihood.
And it's a really cool feature that we have. It
doesn't mean that I necessarily agree with the assessment on
every player, because for Tyreeks, it says that it's a
lower upside, and I disagree with that. To me, the
scary part of Tyreek is that the bust factor is
high and the risk factor is high. The upside, I
do think is also high. To Terror's point, very recently,

(27:00):
this guy was like borderline gonna set the record for
receiving yards in a season, So if things work out well,
he will be a value in the mid third round.
I just get scared off, Tara. Are you taking him
into the second round or like the I'm not sure
where the ADP is right now, but their expert consensus
rankings is a mid third round pick. Uh.

Speaker 10 (27:20):
Yeah, I'm okay with leaning in on the late second
round if you want to, especially if you've got one
of the picks at the turn there. That makes a
lot of sense because nine times out of ten you
can look at somebody's roster and try and figure out
whether or not they're going to be drafting. So maybe
you can, you know, not have to take that earlier
pick and get him in the early third. But yeah,

(27:42):
once I get to the late second I'm cool with
looking there.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Deebro, where are you taking DeVante Adams? Quickly? Overall?

Speaker 1 (27:47):
I've got Adams?

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Who Adams?

Speaker 8 (27:50):
Where are you at?

Speaker 9 (27:51):
I've got him. I'm looking at it thirty eighth overall.
So I'm guessing I'm right with consensus or maybe a
shade above it right now with Adams.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, I'm right with it.

Speaker 9 (28:05):
So best ball ADP is thirty eighth overall, so I'm
kind of with it. And if we get a little
more positive news about Adams, I've dropped him a little
bit our ranks. But if we get more a positive
news excuse me about Stafford closer we get to week one,
I'll bump him back up a little bit.

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Speaker 1 (28:37):
The sponsor of our show for Fantasy Fest this year
was DraftKings, and Dan Johnson from DraftKings came in to
talk to us about some landmines. That's right, players we
want to possibly avoid this season, So make sure that
you're steering the car away from drafting these players. Let Dan,
Ryan and debro walk you through.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
All right back to the land minds we're avoiding here. Dan,
you have Lad McConkey. It looks like you're wearing a
Chargers jersey.

Speaker 11 (29:02):
I'm wearing the McConkie jersey. I'm hoping wrong. I'm kind
of trying to jinx myself.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Guys.

Speaker 11 (29:07):
I love Lad McConkie and he's a good lad. He
has been since he's been a bulldog. But yeah, unfortunately
I'm fading him at a wide receiver eleven and not
that much. Again, you're talking about that, you're talking about
sort of a little bit behind where a chan's being drafted,
right we were talking about that eighteen to twenty range.
Lad McConkie is a true end of the second round,

(29:29):
turn of the third pick right now for me. And
last year, the Chargers scored twenty three touchdowns and McConkie
was responsible for seven of them. That's a good for
a thirty percent target share, and that's an efficiency that
I don't really think we should be banking on. I
think in terms of banking on efficiency year over year
for fantasy football is where it gets really difficult. But

(29:53):
McConkie's red zone share last year was just around seventeen percent,
and he had a six point three red zone conversion rate.
That's solid. That's not alpha receiver numbers. We've also got
some organizational telling and some organizational mess we lost for
Shawn Slater.

Speaker 6 (30:07):
As you know, our left of our left tackle, you.

Speaker 11 (30:10):
Have to knock off about point one epa per play
for the Chargers offense because of that. Now, I do
think the shift from Joe Alt to left tackle and
Trey Pipkins to right tackle should be okay, but I
do think that it is going to affect some time
on task routes. In those time on task routes is
where McConkie made his money. Outside of crazy efficiency, it's

(30:32):
also a team that ranked in the bottom third in
passing attempts. They had five hundred and ten last year,
and I could feasibly see that going down into the
four hundred and eighty four hundred and ninety range, what
with Omari and Hampton and what you know, hopefully in
our Najie Harris gets healthy. And yeah, so I think
Lad McConkie right now is the wide receiver eleven back

(30:52):
end wide receiver one. He's more of a mid wide
receiver two. For me, I see him. You know, I
dropped him down to about a seventy percent catch rate,
thirteen yards per catch, and a twenty five percent target
share and or sorry, twenty five percent touchdown share, and
that that landed him right at like wide receiver twenty
eight for me.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
So Debro, I find Lad's super interesting because when you
first started seeing this season's redraft, like expert consensus rankings,
I felt like everybody had Lad McConkie at wide receiver eleven.
You could almost have just like put him there in
his own tier because everybody you had their own order
of wide receivers four through ten, you have your own
order of wide receivers twelve through seventeen. But Lad was

(31:31):
always wide receiver eleven. And now there's obviously like stuff
like with Slater's injury, like Dan alluded to, and some
of this other stuff about the offense, a lot of
people are still really like the player. Of course, do
you think wide receiver eleven is still an appropriate ranking
for him? Debro? Where everybody had him earlier, do you
think he should be moving down and maybe avoided.

Speaker 9 (31:49):
I moved him down immediately as soon as they signed
Keenan Allen. And if people don't think that that's going
to impact it, then I don't know what they're looking at.
Like Keenan Allen's target earning ability was still top shelf
last year, like he took a small step back in efficiency, metrics,
even the ones outside of Caleb Williams that he could control,
but he was still extremely strong. Like I moved Lad

(32:11):
and I had him at wide receiver ten or eleven.
I kept bouncing on that, like on the daily I
moved him down to wide receiver sixteen only because the
and the thing about Ladd is I think that he's
gonna be one of these defining players this season because
I see both sides of the coin.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Like I.

Speaker 9 (32:29):
Wonder with the additions of Naje and Amari and Hampton,
if we get Samuel Greg Roman, who wants to run
the ball, and there's a long history of that. The
other part about this is where if anybody were to
tell me that there was a ten game stretch of
Greg Roman where he was throwing at a top twelve clip,
they were top twelve and pass rate over expectation neutral
passing rate, everybody would tell you that that's crazy and

(32:50):
that couldn't happen. So it's like they've added a lot
of pass catching weapons this season, like this offseason, and
it's like, could we see the Chargers be league average
for passing rate? It would be a big departure for
Greg Roman. I think it's in the range of outcomes,
but I think we're playing the median and leaning on
the history of Greg Roman, the more likely outcome is

(33:11):
that their bottom ten in passing attempts.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
And if that's the case, yeah, dude.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Even with the crazy efficiency of Ladd mcconkee.

Speaker 9 (33:18):
Like I was playing this game, like on the way
to the expo with Pat.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
We were driving there and I was.

Speaker 9 (33:23):
Like, okay, Like who gets more targets Lad mcconkee, Tenero McMillan,
Who gets more targets George Pickens or Lad mcconkee, t Higgins,
Lad McConkie, Courtland Sutton, Ladd mcconkee, like Garrett Wilson, Lad mcconkee.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
And it's like, well, that's all the case.

Speaker 9 (33:36):
And it's like, in a lot of those ways, I'm
saying the other person and not Lad, Then, how the
heck can I rank him as a wide receiver one?

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Still like I can't, damn. Let's go to your last
player to avoid.

Speaker 11 (33:48):
Yeah, I went with a quarterback. I like to end
things where I began, and I knew JJ Zachariason was
going to be leading out the show and I love,
I love all of his literature on a year over
year quarterback stickiness. So I'm I'm going with Baker Mayfield
for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He's being drafted at an
insane QB seven right now, and the classic regression cocktail

(34:11):
that I that I think based on my many years
being a student of the late round QB here is
that seventy one percent completion rate last year. Added with
that seven point two percent touchdown rate, those that's a
classic regression cocktail. The Bucks offense was awesome last year.
They but they also ranked second in yards after the catch,

(34:31):
and Baker Mayfield had nine hundred and sixty seven passing
yards on completions behind the line of scrimmage. They were
also third in passing yards per game, but Baker's depth
of target was only six point eight yards. That was
thirty second in the NFL. I think that in order
for Baker to return his QB seven investment, you're going

(34:53):
to need to see him, like continue to have that
NFL best conversion rate on in interm idiot third downs,
which he did last year at sixty three point two percent.
I don't think that stays. He was crazy good in
the red zone. He was I didn't This stat surprised
the crap at I mean, he was inside the five
yard line. He was sixteen of twenty four with fifteen touchdowns.

Speaker 8 (35:15):
That's insane.

Speaker 11 (35:16):
So those though, again I said earlier, banking on that
sort of efficiency and year over year is something that
I'm not necessarily looking to do. I love Baker Mayfield,
and of the of the like situations and the ecosystems,
he has the strongest I think of the three players
that I brought up here, but I just think for

(35:36):
a QB seven price tag, he's a little bit too still.
I know he does have some mobility to him, but
you know, he's he's he's more a pocket passer than
he is not, and I'm not taking a pocket passer
banking on that degree of efficiency last year at QB seven.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
I don't have anything to add as to the why.
I will just add just to emphasize, if there was
one player I could pick for this segment, it would
have been Baker Mayfield. Like I will have him in
zero leagues if I do not get one of those
elite you know, four guys who provide rushing everything at
the top, and Alan Jackson Daniels are hurts. I will
be drafting my quarterback out of tiers three or four.
I will not be drafting a tier two quarterback. And

(36:13):
Baker is like the highlight of those tier two guys that,
like I would just expect to regress. And you know,
it's funny. I heard somebody I can't remember who said it,
so I wish I could give him credit. But somebody
else recently I heard make the point that because the
Bucks went from Canalis to Liam Cohen, everybody is just
sort of saying, like, well, clearly Baker will be fine
because he's done it with two, but like it might

(36:34):
just be that they nailed that higher the first time
they had to make it, you know, in replacing somebody.
Maybe they did in the second time. Like we're all
giving a lot of credit to Grizzard as like, or
it's a Baker under Grizzard, I should say, just because
he's gone through the offense coordinator changed before. I'm a
little nervous, especially when there's so many quarterbacks I like
going later them. So like, I strongly strongly agree with

(36:54):
Baker on this one. Deepro what do you think I So.

Speaker 9 (36:58):
I'm not burying Baker like a but I do have
him below a lot of the other guys in that tier,
and it really just comes down to, like, I don't
want to pay the ADP price for Baker when Dan
laid out fantastic points and regression's gonna hit. The question
is how much regression I still have Baker as a
QB one this year. I have him at QB eleven.
But you're telling me when I can get Dak Prescott later,

(37:20):
I can get brock Party later, I can get JJ
McCarthy later. Who I all have ranked in the same tier.
I'm gonna take those guys because I can get them later.
I think there's similar outcomes. I have all three of
those guys ranked above him, and it's not hate on Baker.
It's like there's gonna be a certain amount of regression,
and I think he's still gonna be a QB one.

(37:41):
But when I can get some of those guys around two, three,
heck maybe four rounds later, depending on the league size
where you're at, then it's hard for me to press
the button on Baker, as much as I do love him,
when I can get guys in the same type of
tier way later.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
We got to wrap this segment. But just to get
one question in here from the audience, Debra, where do
you have a Guka ranked?

Speaker 9 (38:04):
I moved him up a lot man because of all
the Godwin stuff, And now Jalen McMillan's is out here,
like he might not even be back by the bye
like that news hit today, and so this is clear like, Okay, well,
I mean I move Agbuka up to wide receiver thirty eight,
and to be honest, like I might have to go
a little bit higher, but I think the conversation for

(38:24):
him starts in the mid wide receiver three range.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Dan, quickly, what do you think?

Speaker 2 (38:30):
I agree?

Speaker 11 (38:31):
I think hearing about Jayleen McMillan today, I had Egbuka
at forty four. I moved him up to thirty nine
at the news and I think that that that's just
about the range where I'd be comfortable taking him.

Speaker 9 (38:43):
Yeah, like give me Agukah over Shakir Jennings. I mean,
I'm probably gonna move him up a little bit higher
to be honest, even maybe over O Lave Like.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
So yeah, now we know what Fantasy pros is always about.
It's about the rankings, right, That's why you come to
fantasypros dot com to see the draft rankings, the in
season rankings, to use all the tools. Well, we've got
some great stuff here for you today. Dave Richard sat
down with the Welsh and our own path Fits Morris
to discuss the running back rankings, the tiers, the targets,

(39:13):
the fades, all of the above. Dave's one of my
favorite folks in the industry, so make sure you listen
to some of our best clips here from Dave sitting
down and talking ranks at running back with the Boys.

Speaker 12 (39:24):
Okay, so now on the inverse on this list, you
see a nice baby blue David Montgomery. We're like, oh, look,
it's so happy.

Speaker 8 (39:30):
That's his color.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
It looks great.

Speaker 12 (39:32):
Nope, because we are now looking at the inverse of
these ranks. Who is ranked too high fitsie and we
know who it is, so why is they will become
ranked too high?

Speaker 13 (39:43):
I would just push Montgomery to the bottom of this tier,
maybe to the top of tier three. He has twenty
five touchdown runs in twenty eight regular season games over
the past two years for a team that was fifth
and first in scoring those two years. The offensive coordinator
for those two seasons, Ben Johnson, is gone, and who
knows that the Lions new OC John Morton is going

(40:05):
to follow the same usage patterns when the Detroit offense
gets inside the green zone. Standout center Frank Ragnow is retired,
which is not going to help the inside run a
game for Detroit.

Speaker 8 (40:16):
And I don't know, if.

Speaker 13 (40:18):
You guys were in charge of the Lions offense and
had Jamiir Gibbs at your disposal, would you be giving
some other running back almost as many touches as Gibbs?

Speaker 8 (40:26):
Like, I know what my answer is.

Speaker 12 (40:29):
Don't you wish? I mean this could be a negative too,
but don't you wish Shanahan was running the Lions? And
he just Shanahan just blindly will run thirty five carries
to Christian McCaffrey, doesn't matter if his leg is falling off.
He'll just like, unapologetically go McCay. And you're just like,
please give that to Gibbs. Can we have that for Gibs?
We don't have it for Gibbs, but we want it.

Speaker 8 (40:47):
FITZI yeah, I mean so I like Montgomery.

Speaker 13 (40:51):
I think he's a good player, but he's clearly the
second best back in this backfield for an offense that
we are maybe worried for numerous reasons, could tail off
this year.

Speaker 8 (41:00):
They're not going to score seventy touchdowns again.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah, Dave, I.

Speaker 12 (41:04):
Don't know if this is like low hanging fruit, but
like you look at the list and you're like, if
you had to pick two guys that seem too highly
ranked and maybe there's others. I think people would kind
of look at Tony Pollard, but you know, there's like
a little bit of positivity with Spears maybe missing time,
but like Montgomery stands out like a like a sore thumb.
Even though there's you know, big touchdown equity, it really
feels like you're dealing with some like weird flow here.

(41:25):
Would you agree that this is like the most standout,
too high ranked RB two in this group or is
there somebody else you'd like to throw in?

Speaker 14 (41:32):
There's somebody else and it's DEANDROI Swift in Chicago, who
I am just really not sold on being a fantastic
fantasy running back? Can it be okay? Sure, he's been
okay for fantasy purposes on a per game basis over
the last three years, and everybody seems to be really
focused on, well, he's the only running back there, they're

(41:52):
going to use the second guy, and it might not
be somebody you've heard of, could be a seventh round pick,
could be somebody who isn't on the team yet. But
he just to me, I know, he's got this one
year where he was with Ben Johnson and he did
so well with it, and he did so great that
Ben Johnson. The Lions traded him the year after that,
partially because they upgraded and they got Jamiir Gibbs, and

(42:16):
so Chicago probably will go through this year with DeAndre
Swift as their primary running back. I don't think he's
going to be used with the goal line. He's gonna
need to catch a hell of a lot of passes.
I'm not certain that there's going to be a ton
of let's call him improvised targets for DeAndre Swift. I
think there will be some that are, you know, wired
in and they're gonna call screens and stuff like that.

(42:39):
But I've watched this team practice. I watched them last
week and the offensive line, I know they added guys
to it. They were a mess. They were false starting
all over the place. They had Caleb sacked a bunch
of times when they ran the ball. Swift did okay,
he could win the edge a couple of times, but
he wasn't the only running back in there. Even when
manang guy who's one of their rookie unning even when

(43:00):
he got hurt in the middle of practice, they were
still splitting reps between Swift and somebody else. That's going
to happen into the season. When I look at Montgomery
on draft day, I think of him as the last
best RB two, meaning I would if I had to
have Montgomery as my number two running back going into
a season, I'd be okay with it. There are other

(43:21):
running backs I'd rather have. I'd rather have Montgomery with
that touchdown upside than DeAndre Swift without it, especially since
I could see Swift just being okay or even worse,
getting competition for playing time that ends up being better
than him.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
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Speaker 12 (43:37):
We got a Marion Hampton over Bresee Hall, and we
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Do it today, my friends, Pat, I'm going to throw
this to you, which running back outside of the top
thirty six do you think is the best potential to
heavily outproduce their ECR?

Speaker 13 (44:35):
All right, the key Welsh, the keyword heavily. So we're
going to go way outside the top thirty six. And
I know this name is going to be greeted with revulsion.
It's maybe Miles Sanders. I mean here, you hear me
out before you start throwing rotten fruit at me. So
Miles Sanders is someone you can get at the tail
end of your draft, and it's possible. It's possible he

(44:59):
is a substainential role in the Dallas backfield, like he
pretty much evaporated in Carolina the last two years. Yes,
but in twenty twenty two, Miles Sanders ran for twelve
hundred and sixty nine yards and eleven touchdowns with the Eagles.
He has for his career averaged four point seven yards
per carry and three point zero three yards after contact
per attempt, and he's got a career breakaway percentage over

(45:23):
six NFL seasons of twenty seven point seven percent. So like,
we don't know if Javonte Williams is ever going to
be the same after that knee injury from twenty twenty two,
and the Cowboys might not feel comfortable handing a big
role to rookie Jayden Blue, whose work ethic has already
been called into question. How many players outside the top

(45:44):
sixty in running back ECR have a chance to get
ten or more touches in Week one? I would guess
that Miles Sanders is probably the only person on that list.

Speaker 12 (45:54):
Dave, would you co sign this at all? And you're
more than welcome if you got anam outside the top
thirty six. I don't know if like we have graphic
for it, but you're well in welcome to throw it out.
But is Miles Sanders a guy that do you think
can outproduced? Or is this even the wrong other cowboy
running back that should be mentioned.

Speaker 14 (46:07):
Yeah, I'm just gonna go into my guy because I
like Pat and I don't want to say anything fad
about Pat or the one time he's got an opinion
that I disagree with. So let's just go to the
graphic of Austin Eckler, who is now finding himself with
an opportunity to maybe see a little bit more work
than he saw last year with Brian Robinson gone, and

(46:29):
the whole world is going crazy over Jacory Krossky Merritt
and deservedly so. He looked great in a preseason game
against the backups on a defense that's going to be
absolutely terrible this year. I don't know if he necessarily
qualifies as being somebody that can take all of the
work that Brian Robinson had and do better with it.
Is he quicker than Brian Robinson? Sure?

Speaker 8 (46:51):
Is he younger?

Speaker 14 (46:52):
Is he fresher?

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Definitely?

Speaker 14 (46:54):
But I look at Austin Eckler as a guy that
could certainly see more carries in that commander's offense and
catch more pass out of the backfield. I think they'll
especially need him in the first month of the season
when Terry McLaurin is starting to get his legs back
under him.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
And we saw last.

Speaker 14 (47:08):
Year three games when Brian Robinson was out for Washington,
so Eckler was the lead back. He wasn't the only back.
They're gonna use multiple guys like most teams do. But
in those three games he averaged fifteen point four PPR
points per game. He didn't even average fifteen touches in
those games, so I think he still has a little
bit of juice in his legs. He can still catch
the ball, and you're getting him at a pretty decent

(47:29):
discount considering he might be the best running back on
a playoff team that should score plenty of points as
long as Jade Daniels is around, and that's Austin Eckler.
I'm taking him in round nine at this point in
full PPR.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
If one CBS expert isn't enough for yet, well how
about two?

Speaker 2 (47:44):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
No second place here for Jamie Eisenberg. He's the one
on one in my heart. Jamie's a good personal friend
of mine and he came over to discuss wide receiver
rankings in tiers. So we followed back to back here
with the CBS guys, Welschin, Fitz doing it again, Jamie Eisenberg,
don't miss this segment. Some great stuff here from the
gang talking about the wide receiver position, which is now

(48:06):
probably the most important if you're gonna win all those
PPR leagues. It's basically now the new standard. So let
Jamie and the guys give you the right names and
the right ranks here heading into the season.

Speaker 12 (48:17):
We've got Pat fitz Morris and we are talking wide receivers.
We're very glad to do it, and this is going
to be a great tier here where our wide receiver
threes ECR twenty five through thirty six starts with Zay Flowers.
We've got Tetero and McMillan, Xavier Worthy, Rashid Rice, George Pickens,
Jalen waddle Boom. That's the end of the top end.
Calvin Ridley, Travis Hunter, Chris Olave, Jerry, Judy Romadunze, and
Jacoby Myers. That is the back half of thirty one

(48:38):
through thirty six, and our narrative, here is a wide
receiver that could jump into be a wide receiver two,
maybe even a wide receiver three. FITZI, we clearly know
who you have picked. He is on a high rise
of value, and I actually I think the ECR of
twenty six is going to be closer into the twenties
and teens than these coming weekends. So let's hear why

(48:58):
you pick McMillan and then we'll get Jamie's take on it.

Speaker 13 (49:01):
Yeah, I want to put ted Rowe McMillan in the
wide receiver two range, and I've got him in the teens.
It is obvious that t mac is going to be
Bryce Young's top receiver right away.

Speaker 8 (49:11):
The Panthers are probably going.

Speaker 13 (49:13):
To have to throw quite a bit this year because
their defense isn't very good on paper. I think there's
a chance McMillan finishes top ten in targets. He is
a top ten draft pick who stands six foot five,
runs good routes. Averaged one hundred and eight point eight
yards per game over his last two college seasons. And
you know, it's not like Arizona had a really good

(49:34):
NFL prospect at quarterback those years. I just love the
outlook for this guy, and I think kind of seeing
his believing based on his college career and what we've
actually seen from him so far in training camp in
the preseason. Like I just I don't want to underdraft
him just because we haven't seen him play an NFL
game yet.

Speaker 12 (49:55):
Jamie, what do you think about Tedro McMillan. His his
rise is going to be pretty huge. Like I said,
there are some spots where he's even floating into the
twenties updated ranks over on Fantasy Pros, on the fantasypros
dot com slash rankings. I think he's even pushed into
like a twenty four. Do you think Tedoro McMillan has
the potential to push that top fifteen? And I guess
there's two parts of it, like could he get there

(50:17):
as far as being drafted and should.

Speaker 8 (50:19):
He be there?

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Yes?

Speaker 8 (50:21):
And yes?

Speaker 15 (50:21):
I mean he's a borderline top twenty guy from me,
I think I'm twenty one right now. So a guy
that I would draft as a wide receiver to you know,
somebody I think that has, you know, the ability to
again outperform as average rapt position, you know, I think
once you get into this range. We talk about this
a lot on our shows on Fantasy Football Totat, like
basically like from Wide Receiver twenty and it's different names,

(50:42):
but like twenty to forty, like we called the blob.
You know, there's just so many great wide receivers that
can easily challenge to be top fifteen caliber players, top
twenty caliber players. We're into this group of guys right now.
So you may not like McMillan better than let's say
Jameson Williams for example, or or you know, some of
the guys that you showed on the previous graphic, but

(51:03):
it's hard to deny the upside, you know, and as
Pat alluded to, he should be the go to guy.
You know, it's an interesting receiving corps because you still
have a very established veteran that Bryce Young leaned on
last year in Adam Feeling, but he had a hard
time staying healthy and he's collecting ARP at this point.
You have Jalen Coker, who you know, seems to have
a good rapport with Bryce Young, but you know, will

(51:23):
he get the opportunity to play as much as maybe
we would like to see And then you have Xavier
le Get, who is another first round draft pick that
you know may just be more of a gadget player
than an actual NFL wide receiver. This guy just stands
above the rest, be it by size or you know,
potential play and everything that he brings to the table.
So they wouldn't make the investment in him. I think,
you know, if they're smart, if they weren't going to

(51:44):
use him. They have an offensive minded head coach. They
have a quarterback that obviously took a huge step forward
last year. They have one of the more underrated offensive
lines in the league. I think Pat said it best.
I don't know if they have maybe the worst defense
in the NFL, but they certainly have a defense that's
going to keep them in some you know potential shootouts,
which you know we'll favor the receiving core and the quarterback.
And so I think there's just a lot to love
about the situation. The one thing that may keep his

(52:06):
value a little bit depressed is how long with this
hamstring injury that he's dealing with.

Speaker 8 (52:09):
Linger.

Speaker 15 (52:10):
Hopefully he's going to be fine, and you know, maybe
you get him at a little bit of a discount
if he's going to be ready for.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
We want Jamie.

Speaker 12 (52:15):
Is there anybody else on this list that you're seeing
here currently as somebody that you might think that could
bump into I don't even want to say, like wide
receiver one, but that's fine. Wide receiver one, wide receiver two.
We're talking about McMillan. I think obviously, like Rice doesn't
really belong on this list, but there's a few other guys.
Does anybody else jump out to you as a player
of really great value in the wide receiver three range?

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (52:34):
Again, I think a lot of these guys, you know,
depending on the situation with Rice, we could see worthy,
you know, if he's if we're talking about an eight
game suspension for Rice. You know, we saw how we
finished last season. He was a monster. Depending on this
situation with Tyreek Hill with this oblique injury, and you know,
Devon a Chan if this calf injury lingers, you know,
and they have to lean on him, especially with the
tight end situation being different this year.

Speaker 8 (52:55):
So no, John new Smith's soaking up targets.

Speaker 15 (52:57):
I don't think Travis Hunter should be that far behind
Tim Aeral McMillan, you know, based on what his role
could be in a Liam Cohen offense. How much is
going to play on defense? Can he hold up? But
this group is just so fantastic. Jerry Judy last year
was so good at the end of the season, and
now you're saying Joe Flacco is the starter. Well, you know, again,
Flacco was great for the Colts receivers at times last year.

(53:19):
He was great for Amari Cooper at the end of
the twenty twenty three season. I think he's going to
be great for Jerry Judy. So those are the ones
that stand out to me. Pickens, you know, again with
you know, arguably the best quarterback that he's ever played
with in his career at this point.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
There are a few that I would avoid.

Speaker 8 (53:35):
I don't like Zay Flowers of twenty five.

Speaker 15 (53:36):
I just don't think in his offensive environment he's going
to be as great as he could be as a player.
Like you know, this is one where you watch the
player versus the you know, fantasy versus reality for example,
I don't think he just matches up. I don't think
the production's ever going to be there for him in
his offense with Lamar Jackson. But there's just again, there's
a you know, if you're inclined to go with a
heavy RB build, and these are the receivers that you're
taking from, you know, as you're two, you're three, or

(53:57):
three or four.

Speaker 8 (53:58):
Like it's a it's a very.

Speaker 15 (53:59):
Good place to be if you're trying to find, you know,
Fantasy wide receivers.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
What's the first round look like?

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Well, Nick Urkolano and myself, along with Pat fitz Morris,
dove into it. Let Nick, Fitz and I walk you
through the players in the right order for the first round.
Some guys we might make a case for his first
round picks, who could end up there next year, and more.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Don't miss a second of this.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Tune in right now, Nick Urkolano, me and Fitz talking
Round one, twenty twenty five. All right, boys, let's get
into this next grouping here, because this is where the
debate really begins. All right, Seven through twelve again in
the half point BPR Molik neighbors in the ECR the
expert Consensus rankings, Pukanaku had eight, Nico Collins at nine,
my boy, I'm on ross, Aint Brown at ten, Christian
McCaffrey at eleven, Derrick Henry at twelve. Nick, You're looking

(54:43):
at the board right now, who do you want to
move up here in this seven through twelve grouping that
maybe is not in the right order.

Speaker 16 (54:52):
Yeah, I mean it's really hard to argue these wide receivers.
They feel like they're a centimeter apart. And it's like,
based on the injury report that day at practice with
Malik Neighbors as tow or back Matt Stafford's back, you know,
just like what ends up swelling up the night before
is basically how the rankings end up settling in the
next morning. So I don't have a ton of problems

(55:13):
with the list here, I will say, and I know
this is not a popular stance. I don't have Cemac
inside my top twelve. He's not a guy that I'm
taking in the first round. I just like he's just
not for me this year. I think when we look
at the consensus top you know, fourteen or fifteen picks
in Fantasy football this year, it's about as strong as
we've seen in a really, really long time. And I

(55:34):
know a lot of people say, you know, you can
only win with upside. I don't actually really think that's
the case in a managed league. Like I think if
you hit on your first and second round pick. Like,
I feel like you are fine and you're making the playoffs.
Anybody can win at that point, the number one seed.
I feel like if we did studies on this, more
often than not, the number one seed probably doesn't win
their fantasy playoffs. I'm just kind of talking right now,
but I'm just saying like people use that as a

(55:56):
bit or a talking point, and I get it. Like
Semac's upside is obviously crazy, and every running back so
far this offseason for the Niners has pretty much gone
down with an injury at some point or another, So
it would be a long shot for Seemac not to
be the guy at this point this year. But he's
getting older, Like eventually that scar tissue starts to build
up on these running backs, and he just scares me
a little bit when you got guys like Derrick Henry
and like Brian Thomas Junior is a guy that I

(56:18):
would put inside the top twelve here and I would
gladly use a first round pick on Nick.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Did Christian McCaffrey scare you last year? Coming off four
hundred and seventeen combined touches?

Speaker 16 (56:28):
He was not like a dude, I was necessarily fading.
I didn't end up with him in any of my drafts.
I think I probably had him around I don't know,
like the one oh five ish. So I didn't end
up with him a lot of my drafts. But it
wasn't because I felt like super smart and I was like,
I'm fading him because he's injured and everything like that
just happened to turn out that way. So wasn't on

(56:48):
my teams last year, won't be on my teams this year.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
And I like that you said where you have him too,
because going into this year when we started invest ball,
he was going around the fourteenth player overall, and I thought,
that's perfect, that's exact exactly where that risk reward is huge.
And I knew by the time we get here, we'd
be scratching the surface of the top ten. And I've
seen him go as early as seven or eight in drafts. Pat,
you have a different take here at Christian McCaffrey. You

(57:12):
actually think he's undervalued here. So let's take the opposite approach,
make the other side.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Of this argument on the coin for Christian McCaffery.

Speaker 13 (57:20):
So I'm saying he could be undervalued. Joe and basically,
Nick was speaking my language about McCaffrey because my rankings
do not match my take here that I'm about to
give you because I have him outside, I've him outside my.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Top does watched the draps pattern exactly.

Speaker 13 (57:36):
Yeah, I'm just saying, like, maybe he could be undervalued.
And I was doing a draft at the Fantasy Football
ax Ball a couple of weekends ago with with Rich
Rebar of Sharp Football, and Rich took McCaffrey fourth overall
in this draft we were doing, and you know, Rich
and I were talking about it later and he basically said, like,

(57:58):
when has Christian McCaffrey ever been healthy and disappointed anyone?
And since the trade of the forty nine ers in
twenty twenty two, McCaffrey has averaged nineteen point eight touches
one hundred and fifteen point five yards from scrimmage in
one touchdown per game for the forty nine ers. And
we know Kyle Shanahan's system is extremely running back friendly

(58:20):
and he loves feeding CMC the ball probably more than
is wise for CMC's health. But like Shanahan can't help himself.
So if he is healthy, we know he's going to
smash this he's going to be better than the eleventh
overall pick if he's healthy.

Speaker 8 (58:38):
There's like no question about that.

Speaker 13 (58:40):
And I agree the injury risk is terrifying, but maybe
because of the potential upside, like maybe he's a value
at eleven overall.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Uncle Joey's always got sleepers for you on the YouTube channel,
doesn't he? Of course, Well, I've also got him for
you on the fest. Yahoo's own Justin Boone, a great
friend of the show, stop by and we talked about
league winning sleepers. That's what everybody wants to know about,
right Who are the guys I can draft late? They're
gonna win me a league? Well, guess what, we've got
the answers to the test. We've got the cheat code.

(59:10):
So Andrew Rickson, myself, Justin Boone talking league winning sleepers
right now. Well, we're gonna turn on the picket full
of sleepers for you right now. And let's start with
one of Justin Boone's running back that I've been targeting
a lot of drafts. I've talked about a ton on
the show, a guy who was headed the workload on
a silver platter in San Francisco last year, and Jordan
Mason ate it up until unfortunately the wheels did come off.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
At the very end.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
But it was a good time while it lasted. Justin Boone,
there's a lot of rumors here that he could be
more of the one A to Aaron Jones one. And
this is a back that prove the workload was not
a problem. So why are you high on Justin Mason
this year? Walk me through your thoughts of this new
landing spot. That's Kevin O'Connell Vikings offense.

Speaker 17 (59:51):
Jordan Mason. I think you combined my name with his
name there and called him Justine.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
That's going Justin Oh my god, no, you know what
I mean, I can do that. Justin Mason also friend
of ours from the baseball side, so Freudian weird slip there.
Also friend of the show, but on the baseball side.
So Jordan Mason, Justin Mason, all the Masons. Let's start
with Jordan Mason here. Justin Boone talked to me about
Jordan Mason.

Speaker 17 (01:00:15):
Well, it seems like this like we've seen this movie before,
Like this feels like a sequel, right, Like in San
Francisco last year, he was behind an older back who
had injury concerns and he gets his opportunity, and he
blows up over those first seven games one hundred and
eight yards from scrimmage per game. In those contests. He
showed he can do it. And we know a lot

(01:00:35):
of backs have shown that they can do it in
San Francisco, but can they do it elsewhere? Now he
goes to Minnesota, where this is such a great environment.
This is an offense that I want to buy into
for fantasy basically every way I possibly can, and Mason
is one of the very cheapest ways to do it.

Speaker 6 (01:00:51):
And you look at what they have there.

Speaker 17 (01:00:53):
Aaron Jones, somebody who I have loved for a long time,
somebody who I have recommended in fantasy more years than
I have not, and yet he's on the wrong side
of thirty.

Speaker 6 (01:01:02):
He's had all these like injuries every single season.

Speaker 17 (01:01:04):
I mean, we could go over here twenty twenty four,
quad ribs, hip, twenty twenty three, mcl sprain, thigh, hamstring,
twenty twenty two, ankle, knee, twenty twenty one, MCL sprain, thigh, hamstring, ribs,
And to his credit, he only actually missed seven games
during that stretch, but he did play hurt a lot
of times like he battled through. But I think the Vikings,

(01:01:27):
they see what's happening here, they knew they needed to
get someone. They went out, they made the move to
get Mason and didn't really bring in anyone else. So
that tells you what they think of him. They also
made a bunch of other moves this year. They've improved
the offensive line. Ryan Kelly's there, now Will Fries that's upgraded.
We know the defense, Brian Flores's defense is really good there.
They've added some pieces, especially upfront there. This is going

(01:01:49):
to be a really good team. I think JJ McCarthy
is the answer. I think he's going to be a
very good NFL quarterback. And he's in this environment where
Kevin O'Connell is the quarterback whisper. He's managed to get
good performances out of basically any quarterback that's under center
in Minnesota. So now Mason is in this situation where
he's behind an older back in Aaron Jones, who has
had these soft tissue injuries, He's had these lower body injuries.

(01:02:13):
I think there's a good chance we could say that
he might miss some time this year, and even if
he is out there, like you said, there's a shot
based on everything the team has said. Based on everything
the Beat writers have said, this looks like it's going
to be pretty close to fifty to fifty and that
there's a chance that Mason could be overtaking him and
could be the long term answer there for them. So
just so high on him to get him where he

(01:02:34):
can get him in the later rounds. There's like no
risk at all I end up taking him earlier than
that just to make sure that I get him. I
think he's a guy that could give you up RB
three production with some RB two weeks when he finds
the end zone, and that's with Aaron Jones out there
and not conver. We don't want to see it happen,
But if Aaron Jones goes down, we're putting Mason right
inside the top twelve for fantasy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Andrew Erickson, you're on the wrong side of thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Do you have any thoughts on Jordan Mason.

Speaker 4 (01:02:58):
Well, I may or may not have a ticket on
Jordan Mason to leave the NFL and rushing touchdowns at
seventy five to one, So I am all in on
buying the upside case with Jordan Mason, especially if he's
able to carve out a goal line role in this office,
because that's where Aaron Jones struggled last year. Again, going
back to my betting success and failures, betting on anytime
Aaron Jones touchdowns was not profitable last season because he

(01:03:21):
was constantly geting stuffed at the goal line. So I
don't think that it's by acts that they went out
and acquired Jordan Mason to operate in between the tackles,
where Aaron Jones is better in space catching passes out
of the backfield. So I'm really glad that Justin included
this one. Because he didn't, I was gonna put him
on my list.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Justin Mason, Jordan Mason, Perry Mason Vikings win the division.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
That's what I say.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Let's get another sleeper here. And I got to tell you,
Justin Bowen, I know you're a mister Buffalo Bill. You
got to sell me on Keyon Coleman because it was
a big disappointment last year. Everybody loves the kid. He's
a good guy. We're rooting for him. They brought in
Josh Palmer. Why is Keon Coleman a sleeper that people
need to be drafting this season?

Speaker 17 (01:04:00):
Well, I want you guys to tell me if this
is the homer take, because I've been known to never
go homer takes when it comes to the bills of anything.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
I've gone the opposite way.

Speaker 17 (01:04:08):
But now that Josh Allen's there, it's a little easier
to buy into this offense in the last few years,
and I think last year when they drafted Coleman, they
did draft him in hopes that he could eventually become
that number one target for Josh Allen. Now, when rookies
show up, one of the first things I'm trying to
figure out is like do they belong Do they look
like they're gonna need a little time, or do they
look like they're not going to be in the NFL

(01:04:30):
very long? And I think when Coleman got there, to me,
it was pretty obvious that he was one of those
guys that was going to take a little bit of time,
was going to need to figure out how to win
in the pros. And then the season started and he
comes out and just based on like the ball skills
and the size, he starts putting up like, okay, numbers
like he posted at least fifty yards or a touchdown
in four of his first five outings, which to me

(01:04:51):
was a little better than I expected, because I thought
it was going to be more of and not that
they're the same player, but more of like a Rashi
Rice rookie season where the Chiefs kind of brought him
along slowly, and then in the second half of the
year he erupted right. Coleman comes out, starts putting up like,
okay numbers, nothing crazy, but a little more production than
I expected. And then he looked like he was getting
kind of comfortable around week seven week eight that year,

(01:05:13):
four for one, twenty five in week seven, five for
seventy and a touchdown in week eight, And now it's like,
oh my god, Okay, the Rashi Rice thing is happening
even earlier than I thought. He's coming on, and then
he gets hurt, and then when he comes back, he's
not really the same player. He's not worked in the
offense the same and it kind of just derailed his season.
But now this offseason, everything we're hearing is that he's

(01:05:35):
an improved player, that he looks great, that the connection
is there with Josh Allen. Is there still some inconsistency, Yes,
of course, he's a very young player and he is
still trying to figure out how to win the pros.
But he's the kind of guy that could put up
a double digit touchdown season. It would not be that
difficult for him in this offense with the type of
player that he is. Daniel Bacon Klis Shakir is hurt

(01:05:56):
right now high ankle sprain. Is he going to be
ready for a week one?

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
I'm not so sure.

Speaker 17 (01:06:00):
I don't love the fact that they're going out and
working out other receivers. They got Gabe Davis coming back
in for a workout. What does that tell you about
some of the injuries they have there. Josh Palmer also
been dealing with a groin injury in training camp, but
I think he's been trying to like battle through that.
But when you see him at practice, that looks like
he's struggled a little bit. So hopefully he can get healthy.
But all of this is pointing to Keyon Coleman having

(01:06:22):
an opportunity at the beginning of the season to really
establish himself as an alpha in this offense, as a
guy that can make a ton of plays. You can
question whether the Bills will ever have like a true
number one receiver again because they got rid of Stephan
Diggs a couple of years ago, and I think they've
really enjoyed under Joe Brady spreading the ball around. But
like I said, Coleman's the kind of guy that could
just do it himself, could put up ten plus touchdowns

(01:06:44):
in this offense. So I think he's somebody where you're
getting him there is no risk at all, and you
could potentially come away with a guy who is in
his second season where receivers often can break out in
their second season, a guy that could be the number
one in this offense. I think there's so many things
to like about him, and when you get to the
later rounds, there aren't that many receivers that have that
kind of upside.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
I think he's one of them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Keon Coleman at fifty one wide receiver overall or Josh
Palmer wide receiver sixty six Andrew Erickson. I put that
question to you, hate you, Joe.

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
Why do you have to put me on the put
me on the spot like that I think for me
or not?

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
That's that I think for me.

Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
So if that's what I have to decide between, I
think I will go with Josh Palmer just because he's
he's free, and there are still some other guys in
the key On Coleman range that I still like a
little bit more. Where it's Josh Palmer. I mean he
was before Jakori krossky Merritt became a third round pick,
I was taking him in the last round. But now
Josh Palmer's kind of like my new favorite last round pick.

(01:07:47):
And that's because I think Boone, you laid out a
really good point where if it's not Keon Coleman or
just like talking about the Buffalo offense in general, someone's
gonna break out from this offense because if khaluis Chakur
is missing all this time, Josh Allen is developing him
with somebody else that's playing a full compliment. Snaps and
Joey p I know that you think James Scot's gonna
score thirty touchdowns again, I don't think that's gonna happen necessarily.

(01:08:08):
And if those touchdowns go somewhere else, well, that means
ke On Coleman and Slash or Dalton Kinkaid or Josh Palmer,
one of these guys is gonna have a monster year
and they're all going outside the top one hundred picks,
So I think that scooping up some value in Buffalo
makes a ton of sense. I do think that Coleman
probably from a just pure ceiling perspective, I think he
probably has the highest ceiling. As a year two guy

(01:08:29):
that led the team in red zone targets, he would
be the guy that would bet on scoring double digit touchdowns. Now,
is that always consistent production not necessarily, or is maybe
Josh Palmer as the best separator I think on the team,
maybe can consistently draw more targets from Josh Allen and
then Dalton king Kid it's really been a health issue
with him. So I agree just buying Bills players at
a discount. But I think that if you're gun to

(01:08:51):
my head, if I have to pick between Palmer and Coleman,
I think I'll just take the cheapest guy.

Speaker 17 (01:08:56):
Give me the year old, your two receiver, the big
bodied guy, give me him over the player Josh Palmer,
who's had some nice performances over the years, but he's
had a lot of time to show what he can
do and he's never really established himself. But I will
also throw this idea out there, why not draft them
bulls If we're trying to get the Bills number one receiver.
With where these guys are going, you could take them

(01:09:18):
both in the late rounds and then hopefully it hit.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
Now. Look, you've done a good sale job on Key
and Coleman. I will give you that for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
Justin Boon and Andrew Erickson, that James Cook thrown down
for the touchdowns sounds like a wager to me. Sounds like,
what do you want to set the line out? Like, Hey,
you know everybody told me last year Karen Williams can't
score twelve touchdowns again, and he didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
He scored fourteen last year. So we'll see. We'll say
I'm in on James Cook.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
We'll take that one time.

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
No, I'm not saying to be out. I'm just saying
he's not going to score as many touchdowns as he
did last year.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
You know what I'm getting, I'm getting salty here in
my old age. I'm gonna take that bet. Great stuff
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