The Biggest Fantasy Football Questions For Each Team in Week 12 (Ep. 1859)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everybody. Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast. I'm
Ryan Warmley, joined as I am every Friday, by Derek
Browd and by Pat Fitzmorris. If we are talking Week
twelve key questions, just a few weeks left here in
the fantasy regular season, we will try and get everybody
over the top this week and into those fantasy playoffs
here in the next couple of weeks. Quick reminder for
everybody that all of our weekly consensus rankings and tiers

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can be found at fantasypros dot com slash rankings. Also
a reminder for everyone there are four teams on by
this week. We had just two last week. We are
back to four. It is the Broncos, the Chargers, the Dolphins,
and the Commanders, so make sure you get those players
out of your lineups. Guys, before we dive into the
key questions, any thoughts on last night's game, particularly any

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condolences for the Josh Allen manager in your league fits.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, that's gonna be hard for people who had Josh
Allen to stare at that stat line for a few days.
Sam with Nicocollins not really a good day. Really, there
were no too many guys in that game. Who had
great Fantasy days like James Cook obviously with the long
touchdown run Early didn't do a lot after that, but

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enough to have a pretty good day. Khalil Shakir heavily involved,
goes over one hundred yards, so that was good. Was
there really anyone in the Houston side, like we got
the touchdown out of Jayden Higgins and Deebro and I
were lamenting before we turned on the mics that like,
Higgins looked so good and we wish Nick Keyley would

(01:31):
play him more.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, that's been a common refrain from you, Debro this season.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Because Nick Keyley is a bottom five OC. He's terrible.
I just situationally, if you watched that game last night,
nothing he did make any made literally any sense. I
was very happy to see, like Fitzy pointing out Jayden
Higgins his role continuing to grow. We talked about that
on the Waiver Wire show. He got a sixty seven
percent route share last night, and dude soaked up a

(01:57):
thirty percent target share. And if you watch the game,
he was so close to having a monster game. If
Davis Mills could hit him on a sideline throw not
hit him in the back on a go route. It
would have been nice. But back to Nick kayley Man,
just situationally poor play calling, Like you have a Buffalo
Bills run defense that is god awful at Swiss cheese.
This is like how you beat them is just run
the ball straight down their throat. You come out passing,

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you continue to pass. There's about four to five minutes
left of the game, you're up by four points. You
get the ball back, and even Herbstreet, now I'm not
a big Herb Street guy, was talking about Okay, this
is nice, a nice spot to sit here and put
a long drive together to salt away the clock. Bro
comes out passing with Davis Mills against the Buffalo Bills.
I can't make this stuff up. I'm sorry Texans fans.

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I hope you get a better OC next year.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Fitz. We don't need to spend too much time in
this game, but I do want to ask, like, is
the Texans defense one that you are going to be
actively avoiding going forward? Here? I mean, like Josh Allen
is as matchup proof as it gets for a fantasy quarterback.
He wasn't great again them the last time he faced them.
He was obviously terrible last night. It's a really, really
good defense. And you know, Josh in particular has struggled

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last couple of times facing them. I know nobody cares about, like,
you know, my guillotine league, but i have started him
the guillotine and I'm worried I'm gonna get knocked out
this league because you never think about that being the
case with somebody like Josh Allen. But the Texas defense
is so good. Are they a defense that you're going
to be actively avoiding in the future.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yes, it is a skull and crossbones defense. So are
the Broncos. You know, the Rams and Seahawks are close
to being in that inner circle of top defenses. There's
one other really eat.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
I'll say Patriots are getting there. They're not there yet, but.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Patriots are pretty close, Like Packers are sort of on
the outer circle. But like I think the two they
take Philly, Yeah, Philly is the third one. Like those
are probably the three right now that you do not
want to see going up against your best players. Houston, Denver, Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, it was just they put the clamps down like
it was. I've been very very impressed when I.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Say it was a week early. We had the conversation
about Josh Allen, and then he made me eat those
words last week, and then this week it was like,
and I'll I don't think you're I'm not gonna say
you're wrong with the Josh Allen stuff worm, but like,
I will absolutely give it up. His offensive line gave
him no time. He has no answers, He has no
wide receivers that are difference makers. Holy crap, seems like

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a wide receiver, one that you can lean on a
dependent and clutch moments is actually kind of a thing
you want.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Hmmm.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Interesting, Buffalo. Interesting.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
The offensive line has not been good this season for Buffalo,
but also Houston's defensive line can make a lot of
offensive lines look like that. Like, I think it's both
the offensive line is not good and obviously the weapons
aren't great, but also the Houston defense is like obscene.
So keep that in mind going forward. Here, let's jump
into the early slate. I'll start off with a big

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spread here, Jets at Ravens. I want to ask about
Tarad Taylor, you know, getting officially starting now in place
of Justin Fields for the Jets. The Ravens defense has
been playing better. Their season long numbers if you look
at like fantasy matchup stuff still look really enticing because
of how terrible they were early in the year is
dragging it down. They've been better as of late. They

(05:17):
haven't been playing the toughest offenses as of late, but
that kind of continues here. So having said all that deeper,
I'll start with you, how does Tari Taylor starting impact
your rankings for any Jets players you would consider starting
this week?

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Not? I mean, it's really not pushing the needle for me.
I do think the Jets players do get more catchable
targets like Tyrod's been Depending on what metrics you're looking at,
I'm not going to say incredibly impressive. The adot's been
kind of low, but he's first and highly accurate throw rate,
third and catchable target rate, So you are getting an
upgrade from justin fields. But I think looking at just

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the backbone of this offense and what they're gonna do
and what they're not gonna do is they don't want
to pass the ball a ton. Maybe that changes a
tad under Tyro Taylor. But I mean outside of like
Mason Taylor, who are you even considering in fantasy right now?
Like I'm not playing ad Mitchell in any freaking like
facet our league or anything. I'm not so getting.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Off for you at all.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
I mean a little bit in the sense of, Okay,
maybe they get into the red zone four times in
a game versus three or two times, you know, so
maybe it helps raise his floor on a weekly basis,
But his volume outlook is is pretty much the same
for me. So I don't want to say it's a
total push, but I mean in most aspects it's kind
of the same fits any more, even if it's not

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alive but any more inclination to consider any of these
pass catchers any change to Breesaw's ranking or is it
pretty much gonna treated the same as you do with fields?

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, I mean the Jets wide receivers go from completely
unplayable to completely unplayable, the slightly lower numbers next to
their names and the rankings, Like I think my highest
ranked Jets receiver is John Matchia wide sixty one.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Oh, I gotta find mine, And.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
I've got Breeze Hollet running back nineteen. I've got Mason
Taylor tight end twenty one. I think I'm like a
spot or two below consensus on both guys, I just
do not really want to invest in this offense in Superflex.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Trodd is listed as a start in ECR. He's QB
twenty two. Some of that is there are not a
lot of good options, Like you get past that top twenty,
there's really no I mean the names after Taylor, Gino, Smith, Kirk, Cousins, Flacco,
who you know Burrow might be back. Burrow's in the
top thirty two, Shadur Mason, Rudolph cam Ward. I mean

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stopped me when you get to a name that you
want to start right, So, like I get why he's
up there at twenty two. The point is like, there's
not a lot of good quarterbacks this week, so in
a pinch, you might have to in the rankings suggest
that that's okay. In super Flex. At the very least,
this is last I checked. This is the thirteen and
a half point spread. Just quickly, you guys think of
Ravens cover that or like I kind of think they don't.

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Like I think they're are getting better and better. I
don't know that they're back to the point of blowing
teams out.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
I think the it's close in the in the pools
where I had to pick every game against the spread.
I took the Jets just they haven't They haven't quit
on Aaron Glenn. That's basically when I see a spread
this big, this late in the season, I just want
to know if the team is quit on its head
coach yet, And I don't think the Jets have.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah, I think they cover only because I'm kind of curious,
like to your point, where I'm like, is the Ravens
defense for real? Like to your point, also, like they
played Kayleb Williams, JJ McCarthy, TUA and the combination of
Dylan Gabriel and Sdarsaners, so like that's pumping up their
numbers a lot since Week seven. But the other side
is they they might those numbers might be for real

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and they might cover here. So I kind of lean
on the cover side, but I wouldn't be betting it.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
I think the offense is where I'm more concerned if
I'm taking the Ravens, Like, if they just don't feel
like an offense that's totally cohesive to the point of
beating a team by multiple touchdowns right now, and maybe
this is the week they get it kind of all
back to get other but it's kind of thing we're
doing looks quite there, so yeah, we'll see what happens here.
I think it's a big number, though I would take
the Jets side. Let's go to Steelers at Bears, sticking
in the AFSC North here in ECR this week, Roma

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Dunze wide receiver nineteen, DeAndre Swift running back eighteen, So
about the same range for these two guys. Which player
do you think will have the better day against Pittsburgh? Basically,
what's going to be better the passing game or the
running game? Fits will start with you, Roma Dunze or
DeAndre Swift.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I have to go with Swift. He is RB sixteen
and a half point PPR Fantasy scoring on the year
and RB ten in fantasy points per game. Since the
Bears came out of their Week five by Swift is
getting a lot of touches twenty one and twenty two
in his last two games, chipping in as a pass catcher,
averaging two point six catches and twenty three point three

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receiving yards a game. The Steelers are just kind of
a neutral matchup against running backs coming into the season.
I never really would have thought of Swift as this steady,
reliable type of player, but DeAndre Swift has become exactly that.
Romo Dunesa, meanwhile, has been kind of all over the
place since the early season. The touchdowns have dried up

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on him. He had five touchdowns in his first four games,
and he's only scored one touchdown in six games since.
And the reception in yardage totals have been just all
over the map his last five games two for thirty one,
seven for one hundred and fourteen, zero for zero against
the Bengals, of all teams. I'm sure the Romo Dunesay

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investors remember that one fondly. Six for eighty six, two
for forty one. So the Steelers do give it up
to outside receivers. And the weather in Chicago this Sunday
is supposed to be pretty mild, so maybe this will
be a big O'dunesay game. Wouldn't surprise me. But I
think Swift is probably the safer that year.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
I will not, so usually I do the sheets earlier
in the week and I want to double check on
like how ECR has changed. I did this one later
in the week because I had some computer issues this week.
So even just within less than the last twenty four hours,
Swift I just checked now actually has gone up. That's
more of a change than we tend to see later
in the week. So he's actually up to RB sixteen
now for what it's worth. So it seems like consensus

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is agreeing with you there, Fitz Deebrow, do you see
it the same way where you like Swift at his
ranking better than a duneese at.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
His I do, I will say to the other side
of the coin, the Pittsburgh Steelers run defense has improved
like since week eight seven foot fewest rushing yards per game,
fifth lowesst yards of to contact per tempt. But the
Bears their offensive lines playing good. I think this is
a game another game. To in to fitz these points
about Rome, I think a lot of that are A
lot of those things are Caleb Williams stats. Rome has

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been held down because Caleb Williams has been so freaking volatile.
Like good matchups he's done really really well. In middle
of the road or tough matchups, he just folds like
a wet paper bag. So I think Rome's volatility is
really really like tied to the hip of Caleb Williams.
But also to Fitzy's point, I think Swift is the
better bet here. I think Chicago has been able to

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run the ball. Their offensive line has been playing pretty
freaking good. Swift has been breaking tackles at a high rate.
Like Swift's efficiency has been one of the most surprising
things of the year for me, Like seeing a guy that,
amongst fifty four running backs is thirteenth, an explosive run
rate seventeenth, and miss tackles force per attempt. Those are
numbers we haven't talked about, like even in close to

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the area code of de Andrea Swift since like the
early Lions days. So to see that bounce back has
been nice. And I take Swift here.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
They have been doing a great job of run block Yeah.
I mean the investment the Bears made in the middle
of their offensive line in the offseason with Thoony and
Jonah Jackson and Chris Stallman was just it's paid such
big dividends for them. It's really least allowed Caleb Williams
the chance to be the best quarterback he can be,
which maybe is still not as good as we would

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like to see, but he's coming.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Along to the point about the running game, I was
surprised Kylemnung guys RB thirty six in ECR like behind
both Tennessee running backs going up against Seattle like. I think.
I'm not saying he should be in the seth of
the top twenty or anything, but I think thirty six
is maybe a little low given some of the names
ahead of him and the chance that I think he
gets in the end zone. I mean, it seems like
they want to use him when they're close to the

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goal line. I think the Bears are going to score
on Pittsburgh, and the running game has been really effective,
So I think that's probably gonna look a little low
by the time we get to the end of the week.
Not that I'm saying he's a strong start or anything,
but I'd bump him up in the rankings a bit
from there. Let's go to Patriots at Bengals. Drake May
has been fantastic this year, of course, but he still

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does not have a three hundred yard passing game in
his career. Is this the week against this putrid Bengals
defense that he tops that milestone for the first time?

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Debro, I'm gonna give a layer with this. I'm gonna
say yes if Joe Burrow plays, because if he doesn't play,
then I don't think the Bengals push the Patriots enough
to where they can throw. And there's so many avenues
like that. The Patriots could put up points in this
like they could just hand it to Trevion Ramandre just
shove it down their throat all freaking day. If Burrow

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they will be able to push them to where May
gets to that point. Outside of that, I think there's
a lot of variants and touchdowns, and maybe you get
a defensive touchdown in this game with Flacko.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
That's interesting. Somebody ask you the question first, but then
I want to follow up on that Burrow point. So
what do you think about Drake May getting three hundred
yards in this game?

Speaker 2 (14:19):
I didn't realize he hadn't had a three hundred yard
game this season. Yeah, and I've got him in a
lot of leagues. I just I know he hadn't thrown
for fewer than two hundred yards in any game this season.
Didn't know the three hundred yard stat was there, So
I'll say, no, he doesn't in this game. With the
Bengals run defense so bad, and with Ramandre Stevenson coming
back this week, the Patriots have this nice one to

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two punch at running back Patriots OHC Josh McDaniels can
have the luxury being balanced with this play calling, And
there really haven't been that many high volume passing games
for Drake May this year. He threw forty six passes
in that weird Week one lost to the Raiders. He
had thirty seven pass attempts in the patriots only other loss,
Week three against the Steelers. But since Week four, Drake

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May is averaging twenty six point eight pass attempts per game,
with a high of thirty four. That sort of volume
just isn't really conducive to three hundred yard games, even
against bad defenses. So maybe it would take the Bengals
upsetting the Patriots, or at least throwing a good scare
into them for May to, you know, ramp up the
pass volume, because he's averaging forty one and a half

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pass attempts in those two New England losses and wins,
only twenty six point three pass attempts per game.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Interestingly, without a three hundred yard game, he leads the
NFL in passing yards. Now he has an extra game
over a lot of quarterbacks because he hasn't had the
buy yet. But he does as of right now, eleven
weeks in lead the league in passing yards without a
three hundred yard game speaks to both I think his
consistency and maybe some of the quarterback play elsewhere around
the league. On the Borough stuff, Fitz, do you agree

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with Debro that Burrow coming back would would kind of
change to you look at this game. I actually would
be very inclined to fade a Burrow led offense coming
back weeks earlier than was initially expected on the timeline,
like whatever Russ there is whatever, like just coming off
the injury. I not that Flacco like I mean, he's
been really really good at times, of course, but like

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not that Flaco's better than Burrow. But I just don't
know what kind of Burrow we would see. Do you
see it similarly to Deebro, where Burrow coming back would
really change the way you evaluate this Bengals offense like
just gonna get back to normal right away.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
You think Burrow's better, no question, But I don't know.
I just still see it as being a really pass
heavy attack for the Bengals no matter what, and probably
more efficient with Burrow and probably less chance of interceptions.
But maybe I see it kind of the way you
do there, Like, I'm not sure what a Burrough return

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should be worth as far as the points spread, like
two points two.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Point said about a point and a half. I think
that's close.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, let me ask you this. If we get news,
let's say later this morning, we get news that Burrow
is going to start, where is he going to rank
for you guys in the QB rankings this week?

Speaker 3 (17:04):
I think the thing we need to throw into this
conversation is that Joe Flacco is not fully healthy. There's
a shoulder issue. So also you're getting the upgrade to
Joe Burrow if he does play better. But also, like
the reports of Joe Flacco wasn't even gonna throw until
later in the week, I'm like, well, Burrow, if you
were questioning can you throw? Can he play? I'm Burrow

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in the r I would put.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
I'd slot him in at number nine, yeah, right behind
I've got Stafford golf party at six, seven, eight, and
then I would slip him in ahead of Dak Prescott,
who has that tough match up against Philly. Yep, and
the Patriots aren't kind of a pass funnel to their
run defense is so good, so Burrow would probably have
to throw a lot as long as he got the

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all clear. So QB nine, Yeah, I'm with.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
You, right ahead of Jacoby Brissett. That's exactly where I'm
at fifty.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
It's kind of funny, like on the are they playing tool,
I've never seeing a player have full practice Wednesday, full
practice Thursday, and a thirty eight percent chance to play usually.
It's obviously a bit of a unique situation here with Burrow.
But yeah, yeah, Like I said, I'd probably be inclined
to fade him his first game back. But I mean

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Speaker 1 (19:45):
Next game here, guys, Giants at Lions. Kind of a
simple one. We all expect a full bounce back from
the Lions offense this week, right, Like, I'm kind of
assuming we do. But it's worth asking, because it was
so bad against the Eagles. Is there any cause for
concern coming off last week's a business performance or fits?
Is this just we just talked about these defenses that
you want to avoid, and the Eagles are one of them.
And it's as simple as that.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
I do think it is as simple as that. Yes,
And Jamiir Gibbs and David Montgomery go from facing a
really tough Eagles defense to going up against the Giants,
who ranked dead last in DVOA against the run worse
than Cincinnati. I know the Bengals have been more generous
to receiver or two running backs in fantasy. But this

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Giant's rundy is bad. And I know Gibbs got a
decent You squeezed a pretty good fantasy performance out of
him last week thanks to his pass catching, But this
is the week I think he goes berserk on the ground,
and there's probably enough room for Monty to put up
seventy or eighty rushing yards too. So I think you're

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starting Jamison Williams obviously, I'm and Ross Saint Brown. I
don't know if you're reaching into the bag and pulling
out Brock right, But yeah, the four prints Bulls plus
Jared Goff all great starts this week.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yeah deeper. I mean both running backs are ranked HAS
had the top twenty two in ECR. Both receivers ranked
US had the top sixteen. Amra and Jamier are both
rankeds at the top three. So the consensus rankings, I think,
probably unsurprisingly see this as a full bounce back Jared
Goff QB seven here in the rankings, do you have
them all pretty aggressively ranked two?

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Yeah? Aggress So I guess the guy I'll highlight here
is I want to be above ECR and David Montgomery.
This just kind of feels like a spot to kind
of get right, Like he has one touchdown since week
week six. I think he scores this week. I was
gonna bet a anytime touchdown odds, but sadly they are
not good enough to sit here and lay the keysh with.
So I think he gets in the end zone. I

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think we probably get some kind of random score, not
from Brock right, but say like Isaac Tessa plays and
he catches a long one at the end of the game.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
What are the anytime touchdown odds on my own? Oh? Gosh,
it was minus.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Last look it was it was minus. Story was close
to it. It was. I was hoped, dude, if it
was like plus one eighty five, I was gonna lay.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Some Yeah, you weren't gonna get that. I mean anything
plus money would be a decent bet.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
But at I want to say it's I want to
say it's minus. I'm pulling it up right now. But
I will say one thing. With Sam Laporta being out
of the lineup, it does make this a little bit
more of a predictable offense, like lessmounts of the you know,
because I don't think Brock Wright's gonna challenge for as
many targets. Yeah, on every single book right now, it's

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minus one oh five to minus one twenty five. Darn it.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
The spread in this game on hard rock bet is ten.
I thought this was gonna I didn't think it was
going to be bigger than like New York Baltimore or Seattle, Tennessee,
which are both thirteen and a half, but I thought
it'd be a little bit closer to that than it
is at ten. I mean, this is in Detroit. They're angry,
coming off of a really embarrassing offensive performance. Like outside
of Laporta, they're they're basically healthy. Like I, I kind

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of expect Detroit to smash the Giants. Honestly, do you
guys see it that way or do you think that's
a fair line?

Speaker 3 (23:07):
You know what that is? That that's a Jackson dart line.
That's Jackson. That's them projecting Jackson dark to play and
keep them in the game when he shouldn't be in
the game. That's I think that's just that's all that is.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
But yeah, I'm with you, coming off a loss, playing
it at Ford Field, they are probably going to smash
the Giants. But Jackson Dart has been so resourceful. He
has kept the Giants in a lot of games that
we didn't think they were going to be in.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at. But this feels
like the Commander's game all over, just like Dan Campbell
and them just unleashing the beast and unleashing the rage.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
I tend to agree with that. I think I have
a pool where I have to pick five games every
week against the spread. End of those five, highlight my
two favorites for extra points. I think that might be
one of my two I highlight.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Only I would take a look see at the status
of Brian Branch and Terry and Arnold though aren't they both?
Wasn't Terry Arnold's can cost and Brian Branch at some
sort of leg.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Issue toe issue. Branch was DMP and then limited, So
we'll see if he plays. And yeah, Terry on Arnold's
probably gonna be out of this game. He hasn't even
practiced this week. That's good, that's a good call, fitzing.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
And if Dart plays, Yeah, let's go to Vikings at
Packers here coming off a two touchdown game. Where are
you ranking Christian Watson this week? And also where are
you ranking him rest of season? Debro, you are the
Christian Watson guy, so I'll start.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
With you here. Oh man, I mean I'm aggressive on well,
I say I'm aggressive. I got about wide receiver twenty
five for this week? Is where is White Watson? And
what ACR this week?

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Let me switch back to receiver. He is at wide
receiver twenty seven.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Okay, So I mean I do want to be above consensus.
I am slightly. I'm at wide receiver twenty five and
I've got him at as a wide receiver three for
rest of season wide receiver thirty five and rest of
season rankings. I just I look at their schedule for
the remaining part of the Packers games, and there's so
many teams that they're playing, including this one this week.
I mean that just give it up to the deep

(25:04):
ball man, Like they get two more games against the Vikings,
two more games against the Bears. I think there's a
game against the Ravens that's in there as well. And
all those teams. Yeah, all those teams are top twelve
and deep ball completion rate allowed, Like Minnesota is giving
up the highest deep ball completion rate in the entire
freaking NFL Hello, Christian Watson. Like he's gotten eight deep
targets in four games. Yes, he's gonna get utilized in

(25:27):
that aspect.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Worth noting when thinking about rest of sees schedule that
the second Vikings game is Week eighteen, so not for
most people's fantasy seasons, just to mention, but yeah, obviously
there's other good matchups in there too. Interestingly, for this week,
Debro he is one spot behind his teammate Romeo Dobbs.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Oh, I'm actually where am I at on Dobbs? I
want to say I'm even more aggressive on Dobbs, Like.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Okay, so you've got both of them inside the top
twenty five.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Then yeah, Dobbs is wide receiver twenty two for me.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Okay, fits do you see like that way too? Where
both these guys you think are really strong players this
week and pecifically, I want to hear what you think
about Watson rest of the season.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yes, And Deebro and I need to go on the
one hundred thousand dollars pyramid because we've got a mind
meld going. Got I've got Watson wide receiver twenty five
this week, wide receiver thirty five. Rest of seas exactly
the same as Debra, and it's funny. Watson since coming
back wide receiver twenty seven and half point PPR Fantasy

(26:23):
points per game, right in line with ECR, so he
has to be involved. The Packers went from having one
of the best pass catching tight ends in the league
to basically having nothing at tight end. Luke Musgrave is
not going to give you even fifty percent of what
Tucker Craft did, and none of the other Green Bay
receivers are alpha types, so Watson isn't going to be

(26:45):
a big target hug either, but with an average depth
of target over twenty yards, he gets high value target.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
And to your point, Fitz, you, I was surprised we
mentioned this in the Waiver Wire column. Dude, he had
a nineteen percent target chare and he led the team
with a thirty three percent first read share last week,
So like they pumped more of the volume through him.
But I guess bearing the lead here, we're both high
on Dubs and Watson. I think Jordan Love has a
bounce back game in this one. Like I want to

(27:11):
be above consensus. Where do you have Love this week?

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Not high because I'm worried about that offensive line okay,
giving him time.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Okay, So I am below.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Consensus on him as I was last week. I've got
him quarterback right now, quarterbacks seventeen.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Okay, I've got him at fourteen and I'm looking at
consensus he's sixteen. So I'm a little bit okay.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
That tracks so fits a hair low lower than consensus,
debrow a little bit high.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
I think it's a good spot for the passing game,
and I think maybe they lean on love a little
bit more this week with Josh Jacobs his status, even
if he plays, he's not going to be a guy
who you're feeding thirty carries to this week.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
But they could easily give Emmanuel Wilson eighteen and Chris
Brumst Well, that's fair, that's fair.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Let's go to one of the most fun matchups of
the week, Colts at Chiefs. Imagine saying that back in
August that this was going to be a circle the
circle the game type of a matchup here, very fun,
surprisingly meaningful matchup. So just give me a player whose
consensus ranking you disagree with in this game fits starting
with you.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
So I think the biggest gap between my rankings and
ECR for any player in this game is with Kareem Hunt,
who I've five spent spots above consensus, but that might
have to do with whether people are ranking Isaiah Piccheco
or not. I'm not, and some people probably are, So
I'll go in a different direction. I'll go with Daniel Jones.
I'm two spots higher than consensus on him, and i

(28:43):
know he has been a train wreck in his last
two starts. Four interceptions, twelve sacks, six fumbles, the ghost
of Daniel Jones past. And he was still kind of
okay for fantasy in those two games though, nearly six
hundred passing yards in those two games, a couple of
touchdown passes, fifty seven rushing yards a touchdown run. So

(29:09):
maybe Patrick Mahomes can can push Daniel Jones into a
shootout on Sunday. I've got Jones at QB eleven this week.
He's QB seven and fantasy points per game this season.
I still think he's a worthwhile fantasy asset, but I'm
sure Colts fans are terrified with what they've seen from
him the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
I mean, it might be a suckers bet to say, like, oh,
it's the Kansas City Chiefs and we thought the Colts
were gonna be terrible at the start of the year.
Chiefs minus three at home is like an auto bet,
But I view it as like an auto bet, like
I don't think the Colts are going to win this game.
I think I don't saying the Chiefs are gonna win by
eight touchdowns, but I think the Chiefs are going to
win this game, like definitively. And if they do that,

(29:51):
maybe it does push Daniel Jones to get some garage,
not garbage time numbers, but to have to throw a
lot and to try to keep up deepra how do
you see it.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
I do think the Chiefs win. I do think that
this game is probably closer. The thing about the Chiefs
defense is their run defense is still spectacular. Their past
defense has taken a step back. Like Bo Nicks didn't
have a wonderful Fantasy day, he did have a very
solid just NFL quarterbacking day. So I think that some

(30:20):
of that It is very much dependent about which version
of Daniel Jones that we get this week. If he
looks like a pumpkin, then yeah, the Chiefs are going
to roll and they cover and all that kind of stuff.
If he can look more like early season. Daniel Jones,
This game is going to be fascinating, and I wrote this.
This game took a lot of time in the primer.

(30:41):
There's so many parts or pieces and chess pieces to
this game with coverage stuff that is so freaking fascinating
that I can't wait. Like I wish I could get
in a time machine and go to like next week
right now and look at all the data of how
this game unfolds, because I think it's absolutely fascinating. But
that leads me to one of my guys here, and
I feel like it's not to the same extent. I

(31:03):
feel like we're doing this just like kind of on
Cruise Control ranking, similar to what people had been doing
with Kean Coleman to Xavier Worthy, he's wide receiver thirty
one in ECR right now, and I don't understand why
the hell he justifies that, like over the last four
weeks wide receiver forty seven, thirty eight, fifty seven, fifty eight.
I think you're gonna get a Colt's past defense that's

(31:25):
gonna go out of what we saw last week, more
man heavy and things like that. I think they're gonna
drop back in too high I think they're gonna eliminate
Patrick Mahomes from going down the field, which is fine.
He could chew you up underneath with Rashie Rice and
Travis Kelcey and they're probably gonna do that all freaking day.
But again, that points back to no Exavier Worthy. Like
the Colts in the week seven, seventh through nine, we're

(31:46):
fifty three percent to sixty five percent too high. Xavier
Worthy has been a freaking ghost against too High. He
has a fifteen percent target per route run rate and
zero point six four yards per route run. He has
been a nothing. I want nothing to do or starting
Xavier Worthy. If that burns me, so be it. I
don't think it will.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Let's say you've been playing the Waiver Wire quarterback game
this season. Would you rather start Jacoby Brissett or Daniel
Jones in this game? Te Bro?

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Oh that's a good all right, So floor damn, I'm
going with Jacoby Brissett. He's been a.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
QUBA a record setting performance suit he is.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
He has been a QB one. Not to flip this
all the way back to Jacoby Brissette. He has been
a QB one in every single start he's made this year. That.
That's that's insanity. That's twenty twenty five in a nutshell.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
For me, fits, What do you think about those two?
Brissett or Jones?

Speaker 2 (32:39):
I have Brissett ranked one spot higher.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
By the way, five minutes ago, Jackson Dart ruled out
he has not cleared concussion protocol for Sunday's games.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
All right, then, well, Lions are covering.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
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Speaker 3 (33:19):
Puked to Troit minus ten, like oh, I had it
pulled up on my side screen.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
I was like, let me get this for the pullet
cook squeeze it in here.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
I think that's smart, you know, again, those big lines
I often am wrong on. I just I think the
Giants are going to get kind of crushed in this game.
Let's go to the last game in the early slate
here on Sunday, Seahawks at Titans, another big spread here.
Sam Darnold was seeing ghosts against the Rams in Week eleven,
but has otherwise been excellent in twenty twenty five. Obviously,

(33:48):
we are not expecting another four interceptions this week, but
just how much of a bounce back do you expect
from Seattle's offense fits I'll start with you.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
I think the Seahawks implied total for this game as
twenty seven points, which sounds about right. I'm expecting sort
of a low volume, high efficiency game from Sam Donald's
I just think he'll have the luxury of playing the
way Seattle wants him to play, in the way he
was playing earlier in the season, where he wasn't throwing
a lot, but when he did, he was doing it
with ruthless efficiency. So he's thrown fewer than thirty passes

(34:21):
in six of his ten games this season, and I'm
guessing this is another game where Donald throws fewer than
thirty passes. So sure around ten or twelve of them
are going to go to Jackson Smith and Jigba, who
can certainly smash on that sort of target volume. I
think maybe the main beneficiaries of this matchup for Seattle
are the running backs Kenneth Walker Anzac Charbonay, both playable

(34:42):
against Titans defense that's giving up the six most fantasy
points per game to running So what do.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
You think about the total fits It's forty and a half,
And my gut reaction when I saw that was under
because I'm like, I don't know how Tennessee's scoring on
the Seattle defense. But on the other hand, like if
they just get one touchdown at some point in the game,
I don't can get to in the mid thirties. I
think just if they have another one of these games
where they're really efficient and have this bounce back now
that they're not facing their rams. So what do you
think about that line?

Speaker 2 (35:09):
The inclination seeing a Titans game go into the forties
with the Vegas total is to bet under.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Yeah. Yeah, that was my gut reaction to. Like I said, Seebro,
what do you think about this game and particularly Sam
Donald and the offense bouncing back?

Speaker 3 (35:24):
I think the offense bounces back. Man, I think, like
you're looking at this matchup, I mean, this is if
Seattle wants to go where they want to go, Man,
they need Sam Donald playing good football. When talking about
ghosts of Christmas pass like you alluded to a worm
like over the last few weeks, like since week seven,
Sam Donald leads the NFL in interceptions. He has the
second highest turnover worthy throw rate. The Titans secondary is

(35:47):
a very good get right elixer. So I think Sam
Donald has a bounce back game. I think the offense
looks more potent and efficient this week. The player that
I'll throw in here is aj Barner. I think that
he has a good game. Sam Donald has a really
big bounce back game. I think Barner is a very
streamable tight end, been very good versus too high coverage.
I think he can score touchdown this week.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
On hard Rock Bet, Seattle has these seventh best odds
to win the Super Bowl this year. I know Sam
Donald has been really good this year. I find myself
still thinking like I just can't get there with Donald.
They're plus twelve hundred. The teams ahead of them are
the Rams, the Eagles, the Lions, the Chiefs, the Colts,
and the Bills. I can't really get there with the
Colts either, honestly with Daniel Jones. But yeah, like I

(36:35):
Seattle's defense is so good. I'm such a believer in
Mike McDonald and JSN is so good, but fits, I
just can't get there with Sam Donald.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Totally get it. It's a lot like the Broncos, whose
defense is amazing. But can you even if the Broncos
get home field, can bo Nicks win three games? Can
he win three games for the Broncos. I have more
faith in Sam Donald, I think, than I do in
bon Knicks. And the Seattle defense is almost as good
as the Broncos defense. But it is kind of the

(37:05):
same proposition with the Seahawks that it is for the Broncos.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yeah, I mean some of the names that are in
that same range with Seattle and Denver, Buffalo, Baltimore, Green Bay.
I think Seattle's a better team than all three of
those teams, like clearly, But I would rather pick any
of them we're talking to win the Super Bowl because
any of those quarterbacks can't get hot. Not that any
of them have made the Super Bowl before, but I
just have way more faith in those quarterbacks than a
guy like Darnald or Boat Knicks.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
So I have a lot more faith in the high
end moments of Jordan Love than I do Sam Darnald.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah, I totally agree. I asked about the Super Bowl
because I don't have anything else in this game. This
is like not interesting to me at all. Are going
to smash start.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
No Titans, that's going to takeaways, don't play any freaking.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
I do not start at tighting. Now let's go to
the late afternoon slate. We just mentioned Jacoby Brissette, so
we'll do Jags at Cardinals. Michael Wilson had a huge
game with Marvin Harrison Junior out last week. Harrison is
missing another game, So how aggressive are we ranking Wilson
with his as I met changed now record setting quarterback
in Jacoby Brissett. Deebro starting with you.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Oh, he's been such an interesting player to sit here
and try to rank this week. Right now, I've got
him at wide receiver twenty three. The matchup is there,
the volume should be there. If he doesn't go off
or at least have a really strong game that leads
to that ranking paying off, then Dear God, Trey McBride
is going to break the freaking slate because the Jaguars
can't stop tight ends. But that's where I'm at, Like,

(38:29):
Michael Wilson's probably gonna get a ton of freaking volume
in this one. Since Week seven, Jacksonville's allowing the eighth
most PPR points per target to perimeter wide receivers. So
I do have some kind of heavy gbs about like,
is this an outlier one off game? Is this late season?
Trey Tucker like A but I'll follow the volume.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
You said wide receiver twenty three, right, Yeah, that's lower
than consensus. He's wide receiver twenty in consensus. That's a
half VPR scoring fits. Where do you have him?

Speaker 2 (39:00):
I want to get to what Debro is just saying
about Michael Wilson and that dilemma about how to think
about him in just a second. But I've got Wilson
ranked wide receiver eighteen. I think there's a reasonable expectation
for nine to ten targets against a pass funnel Jags defense.
Opponents are thrown against the Jaguars sixty three point six
percent of the time. Only the Colts have faced a

(39:22):
higher passing rate by opponents, And does Drew Petsig keep
slamming Bam Knight into a pretty good Jaguars run defense.
The ranks the eighth in DVA. Where does Petsig let
Jacoby Brissett cook? And he has been He's been cooking man,
So I think they have a throw heavy game plan here.
So about Michael Wilson last week I mentioned on I

(39:45):
can't remember if it was they show the ranking show
that Wilson had averaged one point zero nine yards per
route run for his career going into that game against
the forty nine ers, which is a terrible number just
for sake of comparison. Van Jefferson career yards per out
run one point one eight. So not to dump on
Van Jefferson, but he's a journeyman who's played for five
different teams in seven NFL seasons. Fine as a fourth

(40:07):
or fifth receiver, useful depth piece, but no fantasy values.
So for Wilson have a lower career yards per route
run number than Van Jefferson seem pretty damning to me.
But I think that was bad analysis. Like yards per
route run is a really good stat because it factors
in the ability to draw targets and the ability to
do something with those targets. But I wonder if maybe

(40:29):
yards per route run has done a disservice to Michael Wilson,
And maybe it's more of a Kyler Murray stat in
this case than a Michael Wilson's stat, because Kyler Murray's
a one read quarterback. Basically, he looks at the first read,
maybe a second read, and if it's not there, he
just starts boogying around. Michael Wilson has not been Kyler's
first read very often. His first read target share according

(40:51):
to your friends at Fantasy Points data, it's been well
under twenty percent in all three of his seasons in
Arizona and Jacoby Brissett. It's just a different kind of
quarterback and maybe a much better quarterback for Michael Wilson.
Michael Wilson was a third round pick. A lot of
people liked him as a prospect, and really the biggest
questions about him coming out of Stanford were his health.

(41:14):
He had a lot of injuries in college, didn't play
more than six games in any of his last three
college seasons. So obviously Michael Wilson benefits from Marvin Harrison
Junior being out. But I know that my guy Matt Waldman,
author of the Rookie Scouting Portfolio, he thinks Michael Wilson
is a better route runner than Marvin Harrison Junior. So

(41:34):
I am in on Michael Wilson now that he's the
de facto number one receiver in Arizona for another week
or two, and I think I have to do. I
have to reconsider Wilson as far as like my dynasty
rankings and where I'm going to be putting him in
twenty twenty six rankings, because it seems like Kyler Murray
and the Cardinals are headed toward a divorce and Michael

(41:54):
Wilson stills another year left on his rookie deal.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
That's a good shout out and ted to your point,
I was looking this up as you were talking. FITSI
Michael Wilson last year amongst a hunter qualifying wide receivers
forty fifth, in separation forty second and route win rates,
so not bad at all. Man, Like, I think there's
something to that. And I've I've been shouting to the
high heavens of the last few seasons, Kyler Murray is terrible.

(42:18):
He has been god awful. He has been limiting to
this entire offense, and like I know, we've given Drew
Petsing a lot of crap on certain seasons and shows
and things about Marvin Harrison Junior. I mean, maybe kind
of we do. We point a lot more fingers back
at maybe Kyler Murray has just been that bad and
that limiting over the last two years.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Look, maybe by the way to your point, deepra about
Tran McBride. He's ranked inside the top twelve amongst flex players,
which is not common for a tight end to get
inside the top twelve when also compared to running backs
and receivers. That's how good of a matchup that is,
and obviously just how great he's been lately. So Trey
McBride breaking news is gonna be awesome. Probably another week.

(43:05):
Brown's at Raiders. First NFL start for Shoudeur Sanders. What
are our expectations for Shoudure debro.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Man, It's gonna be a wild day, wild day, wild
day on I already know it's gonna be a wild
day on social media regardless of however this goes. But
I hope for better things for Shoudeur. I don't know
if we get better things. I think a lot of
this comes down to what can the Cleveland offensive line
do versus Max Crosby. That's going to be a huge

(43:34):
factor in this and really just I mean absolutely just
pounding in into's head, like get the ball out of
your freaking hands. You cannot run circles in the backfield.
You cannot do this stuff like throw the ball away.
Live to fight another day. I would like to say
that I have hope. I'm cautiously optimistic, but I could

(43:54):
see this going very very poorly.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Fits.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Player prop for yardage is at one hundred and sixty
one point five passing yards at hard rock bets. I
would bet the over on that. The Fantasy pros projections
have Chaduur at one hundred and seventy nine.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Yards, So it's a good call.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
He could He could smash this total and still not
have a very good gut.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
That's a good call.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
One hundred and seventy nine yards still not a very
appealing number for Fantasy Browns Ragers. Raiders has a Vegas
total of thirty six points. Shadour is probably gonna have
Max Crosby in his face all day. I just I
don't want to play any Browns in fantasy except maybe
Quinchawn Jenkins.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
I definitely agree with that. I don't know if I
actually agree on the prop. I mean, he was four
of sixteen. I wasn't a star, I don't. But what
he what he struggled with was the same thing he
struggled with in college, which is pressure. He could not
handle it at all. So that was not like a
surprising like I don't know that that was him coming
in col because that's what he was at Colorado. This

(45:02):
is still a bad Browns offensive line facing Max Crosby.
I think he's going to be under a lot of pressure,
and I think he's going to look really really bad.
It's a really low line, to your point, but I
do not think he's going to look good.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
It's the same time, I would think Stefanski's probably going
to drop some quick hitting stuff for him.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Stuff that can That's all they've been doing with Dylan
Gabriel too.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yeah, make him make him feel a little bit more comfortable,
do some stuff where he doesn't have to like take
seven step drops, sit in the pocket, have everyone swarming him.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
To your point, whem. Since week seven, the Raiders have
the seventh lowest pressure rate. So if Max isn't getting home,
then nobody's getting home. So I think that that's a
big point. So like Stefanski would be very wise to
sit here and take the Dylan Gabriel playbook and just
make everything underneath short, quick hitters, play a lot of
heavy personnel, give help to the side where Max Crosby is,

(45:54):
and then you probably have decently clean pockets. I'd like
to call out for the overpassing yards, but I hope
he plays good. But I will agree with FITZI like
I would love to get a clarification too out of Stefanski,
as like has he had any first team reps? Or
has that just been great?

Speaker 1 (46:10):
They sat on the broadcast that Stefanski talks about that
their player development like a lot and like we set
aside time for the backups to get these opportunities in practice.
I don't obviously I don't have the details of that,
but on the broadcast they told they were talking about
that once to do Or came in that Stefanski had
a lot of faith that if he had to come

(46:31):
into a game like prior to it actually happening, that
it would be fine, and like they really believe in
their player development and all that stuff, so I remember
the exact way they phrased it. But they did talk
about that on the broadcast during that game, and obviously
he did.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
Not vibes anytime is brought up are not good. That's
the only things. I'm like, God, the guy just seems
like it just screams he was forced to draft him
and not not like he didn't want to.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
Yeah, I would with my Jobby on the floor if
he was okay, no, but I'm not expecting it. It
was as poor performance as I can ever remember, even
from a backup quarterback coming in cold. It's as poor
performance as I can remember watching from a backup quarterback.
It was really bad on Sunday, But that's a good
point about the Raiders not getting home as much if
it's not Max Crosby, which definitely will help. Helps you

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Next game up here, guys, Eagles at Cowboys. So I
think it's a really interesting matchup on both sides of
the ball. So I want to kind of on both sides.
Have you tell me which unit you think wins. Explosive

(48:00):
Cowboys offense versus the stingy Eagles defense and then the
inconsistent Eagles offense versus the bad but maybe improved after
the trade deadline Cowboys defense. Let's start with Cowboys offense
versus Eagles defense. Fits. Who wins that matchup?

Speaker 2 (48:14):
I'll say the Eagles defense. They have completely smothered the
Packers in the Lions, two pretty good offenses in their
last two games. Jalen Phillips is such a nice addition
for them, man Like he was just they had so
many nice pieces in place already and he was just
the maybe one missing ingredient. Their defense is pretty healthy.

(48:36):
I think the Eagles defense is a really tough matchup
for any offense right now.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Debra, Yeah, I think it's the Eagles defense. Dude. Since
Week seventh their fifth in pressure rate. They are getting home.
They weren't doing that at the beginning of the season,
so I think their secondary is outstanding. Fangio has been
in his bag. Yeah, I think it's the Eagles defense.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
And then how about the other side of the ball,
the Eagles offense versus what has been a bad Cowboys defense, Debro.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
I think the Eagles offense, and I think specifically DeVonta
Smith and Dallas Goddard Smith. You saw in week one
Dallas went with too high on fifty seven percent of
the defensive snaps. I think you see a similar game
plan because if you just run too high coverage, you're
taking aj Brown out of the equation. He has been
so coverage sensitive, like versus single high two point one

(49:22):
yards per route run versus two high one point three
yards per route run, so you can take him out
of the equation playing two high safeties. And this is
also a Kevin Petulo problem. No, Tommy p I do
not believe that Kevin Petulo needs to be or will
be a head coach in the NFL. If anybody's watched
the Eagles offense, you know this. But I think it's
a good day for DeVonta Smith. I think it's a
good day for Dallas Goddard as well. Dallas has given

(49:44):
up the tenth most receiving yards per game to opposing
tight end, So out of those two guys, I think
they the Eagles run their offense through them. Also with
a large smattering of Saquon Barkley.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
So you're picking the Eagles on both sides of the ball.
It sounds like you like them minus three yep, sure
do okay? Fits What do you think about the Eagles
offense versus the Dallas defense?

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Me too, I'm with the Eagles here. This is I
would maybe buy the possibility that the Dallas defense is
better now than it was early in the season with
quinnin Williams and getting some injured guys back. But I
know the Eagles offense has been frustrating, but it is
certainly not for lack of talent on that side of

(50:27):
the ball, although Lane Johnson being out that is unquestionably
a problem for the Eagles, but they still have a
pretty good offensive line even without Lane Johnson. I know
they've maybe underperformed a bit this year, but I'm going
with the Eagles here, all right.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Well, so you guys are both in line on that.
When we can move on Falcons at Saints. How significantly
are we dropping Falcons players with Kirk Cousins now starting
at quarterback?

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Fits Well, I'm not dropping b Jon Robinson or Tyler Alger.
In fact, maybe Kirk Cousin and actually benefits those guys
for fantasy, since the Falcons are incentivized to take the
ball out of Kirk cousins hands as much as possible
and lean on the running game. I've got Kyle Pitts
tight end eight and Darnell Mooney wide receiver thirty two.

(51:12):
Not excited about either guy, but maybe they get target
bumps with Drake London out, although a target bump might
not mean that much when the quarterback is Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
Debra, Yeah, Fitz and I are kind of handholding on ranks.
I got Mooney at wide receiver thirty two. Pits floated
him anywhere from like tight end seven to tight end ten,
just depending on who I'm kind of looking at for
volume and stuff. So I'm not I think, like with
Drake London being out of this game, I'm not dropping
anybody a ton because I think the volume gets more

(51:42):
consolidated between these players and their offense. So I'm not
saying that I have a lot of faith in Kirk Cousins.
But let's also like not give too much praise. Michael
Pennix hasn't played good this year either.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Yeah, is there Where are you ranking Pits Debra?

Speaker 3 (51:58):
I've got him at tight end eight right now, but
like I kind of want to move Dallas Goddard above him.
You can make a conversation for Juwan Johnson above him.
He's he's going to live in that low end tighten
one kind of ilk.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
You mentioned fits Alger. Where is he ranked for you?

Speaker 2 (52:18):
I have got him, so it's just.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
He's RB thirty. It's gonna consensus by the way.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Yeah, I'm surprised it's that lowll I have got him. Geez,
I've got him running back thirty. I probably have to
move that down I right now, I've got him ahead
of Bam Knight, and I've got him ahead of the
two Titans.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
I was gonna say like the two Titans. Again, I
mentioned him with Manongai. It's the same thing here. They're
both ahead of Algier, and I just, I mean again,
I really don't expect Tennessee to do anything against that
Seattle defense, and I would just much rather take a
chance on Algier or manong guy getting into the end
zone than starting either of those those Tennessee guys.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Truthfully, yeah, I do think I need to move him
behind Bam nights just based on volume. But then again,
it wouldn't shock me if Tyler Elzier got a dozen
carries this week.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Yeah, all right, let's go to Sunday Night football. Sean
Tucker coming off a fantastic game against the Bills with
Bucky Irving still out, are you interested in starting him
against the Rams? Debra, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
I just got to give a lot of respect to
the Rams run defense. I mean, since Week seven, a
fewest rushing yards per game allowed, fifth, lowest explosive run rate, fourth,
lowest yards are to contact per attempt. Tucker has to
get all of his production on the early downs because
he's not going to get a lot of pass game,
if any hardly any pass game utility. We're still kind
of wondering does Bucky Irving player or not? And then

(53:41):
does this become like a three way committee this week.
I just don't have a lot of faith in Shawn Tucker.
I think for the Buccaneers to put up points in
this game, I think it's going to have to be
through the passing game, and I just don't think Sean
Tucker's going to be involved in that.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Fitz.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Yeah, we've been talking about the hierarchy of NFL defenses
on this show. So maybe with the Texans and the
Broncos and the Eagles I think are top three, but
then right behind them are the Rams and the Seahawks
and maybe the Packers and who else. There was maybe
one more we forget Patriots we mentioned as being close.

(54:20):
So yeah, it's just such a tougher matchup for Tucker
than he had last week against a bad Bills run defense.
And even with the one hundred and forty yards from
scrimmage and two touchdowns last week, Sean Tucker played eleven
fewer snaps than Rashad White in that game. And now

(54:42):
with this much tougher matchup, tough matchup, partial workload, I'm
not very excited. I've got Tucker at RB twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
I think the second question that we have for Sunday
Night Football is we're going to highlight our favorite three
and four star props from the prop bet cheat sheet
ahead of U Sunday Night Football. That's what we're doing
every single week. Fits. I'll start with you, what's your
favorite three or four star prop from the prop at
cheat sheet this week?

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Well, talking about how tough the Rams defense is, I'll
go under two hundred and forty one point five passing
yards for Baker Mayfield. This is a three star bets
on the Betting pros Player prop cheat sheet. So yeah,
Rams do have a top five defense, and they have
the fifth lowest opponent passer rating in the league, and
they're giving up the sixth fewest fantasy points per game

(55:29):
to quarterback. So this is also why I have Baker
Mayfield ranked outside of QB one range this week. I've
got him down at QB fourteen and Baker's in sort
of a mini slump. He's averaging five point seven yards
per attempt over his last four games. Like this, Buccaneers
passing game has not been working lately, Debra.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
So I mean Fitz and I are are where we
see this game very similarly. I am going to go
to the other side of the coin, though, I'm going
to take the over one and a half passing touchdowns,
which is a two star bet on betting pros right
now for Baker Mayfield. I agree with Fitzi on the
ardage and I agree with the tough matchup. I just
think back to the Tucker point. If they're gonna try

(56:08):
to keep pace, I don't think the Baker plays well
in this game. They have to move the ball through
the air, and that's where I think playing. Like whether
we talk about garbage time or catch up or matchups,
I do think he gets to two passing touchdowns. But
I agree with Fitzy wholeheartedly. Like I've got Baker Mayfield
at QB sixteen this week, Like I I am, oh gosh,

(56:29):
this is gonna scare me and go into our next game.
But like, do you rank Bryce Young ahead of Baker
Mayfield this week? That's a question, that's a real, real question.
Well you pause, you pause, Fitzy, it's a question.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
What do you think, fitz I mean, I don't as
of now, but it is it is kind of a
real question. Yeah, we should talk about this Monday Night game.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Yeah, I was gonna say so, Baker's about three spots
higher in in consensus, and we are gonna get to that.
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(57:15):
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to redeem your offer. All right, Monday Night Football Wrapping
things up, Panthers at forty nine ers Bryce Young and
Ted Roe McMillan are both coming off the best games
of their careers. How will this pair perform against the
Niners on Monday Night Football? Fits?

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Yeah? So, Bryce threw from more than four hundred yards
last week against the Falcons, his career best yardage output
and was not the only four hundred yard passer on
the week. The other one Jacoby Brossette. Jacoby Brissett was
playing the forty nine ers. Who does Bryce Young get
this week? The forty nine ers and the forty nine

(58:01):
ers rank last in the NFL and sacks. They only
have twelve sacks this year. Their sack rate is two
point nine percent. Next worst sack rate is three point
nine percent. They are lasting pressure rate at thirteen point
one percent. I think the next worst is fifteen point
six percent. Forty nine ers. Cornerbacks are basically sitting ducks

(58:22):
with such a feeble pass rush, and even a mediocre
quarterback can look like vintage Tom Brady if he has
all day to sit in the pocket and wait for
his receivers to get open. So it is a really
good spot for Bryce Young. And Debro asked me that question.
And I'm looking at where Bryce Young is in my rankings.
He's QB eighteen, and I'm wondering if he shouldn't be

(58:44):
ahead of Baker Mayfield, the head of Jordan Love, ahead
of maybe even Sam Darnold.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
The other day that's right ahead of him is Trevor Lawrence,
which I'm sure you don't need to really nod. I've
just reading you the consensus. I don't know who fit
high here.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
I mean in fairness, like going into last week's game,
before he lit up the Falcons, Bryce Young was averaging
five point six yards per time. That is a Canadian
Football League however, so yeah, and under two hundred passing
yards a game, like things were pretty bad for Bryce Young.
Bought great game last week, and you know the setup

(59:25):
for him is just pristine this week.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
But by the way, he's eighteenth right now, He's really
seventeenth because Jackson Dart is still ahead that he's going
to be out, you know, once that kind of has
a chance to update. And then you take into consideration
like Alan already played, so like of the remaining people,
he's about QB sixteen in terms of consensus here. And
then sorry, Fitz, did you say on Tedoro McMillan, just

(59:49):
what you kind of expect out of him in this game?

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Oh? Sorry, Yeah, I've got him just outside QB one
range like wide receiver fifteen.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
He's a receiver twelve. A consensus.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Oh boy, I don't want to don't I don't know if
I want to be three spots below consensus on t mac.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Yeah, let me make sure that hasn't updated here.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Still wide receiver twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Oh man, I might have to do something about that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Debro, What do you think about those two?

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
Young?

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
And Ted?

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
I just moved Bryce Young. Oh, pray for me, people.
I've just moved Bryce Shung ahead of Baker Mayfield. I
got him at QB fifteen right now. And I do
have Tedro McMillan ahead of ECR. I have my wide
receiver eleven. I think this is going to be painful,
but I think it's a real conversation this week. I
think Tedro McMillan versus Justin Jefferson is a is a
real rankings conversation this week. And yes, I mean it's

(01:00:36):
going to go back to I agree with everything that
fits laid out here. And Bryce she Young maybe future
CFL MVP. Bryce Young. He played well. I think he's
gonna play well again this week. Do I think he's
long term franchise Andrewer for the Carolina Panthers? Heck, no
no way. But can he look like it this week
versus the forty nine ers? I think it is definitely possible.

(01:00:59):
And tedrro mc millan just continuing to look like a
freaking stud.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
When I hear Deebro say Tetero McMillan versus Justin Jefferson
is a conversation this week. What I'm hearing, I hear
in the same AJ McCarthy is bad and I apologize
for Championhi I heard this day.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
I mean, I don't apologize for that. We we shall
see how this plays out. But yes, I just yeah,
I mean yeah, Bryce Seong ranked over JJ McCarthy and
rankings owning l's this week.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
I mean, right now it feels pretty inarguable you could
you can still plant your flag, Debro that he could
turn it around, but right now, no argument me.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
So I have hope.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
All right, we'll go ahead and wrap things up there.
Vest of luck to everybody here in week twelve. A
lot of agreement from Fits and Deebro today, So hopefully
that's not a bad sign that that feels scary and
dangerous when you guys are on the same page for
Debro and Fits. I'm Ryan Warmley. Thanks for tuning in.
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