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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in everybody to Fantasy pros.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
This is the Fantasy Football Podcast as me Joey P
Joe Pisapia, and it's time to look ahead to the
waiver wire for Week fourteen. By apocalypse is finally here.
So if you made it through Thanksgiving with your family,
too bad, because now no one's playing football this week
in Week fourteen. But this is that last week for
a lot of teams to desperately try to get into
the playoffs. So we're gonna do everything we can to
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help all of you get the right players on your
roster to make sure you somehow come out with a victory.
Just for a recap, Week fourteen buys no Ravens, no Broncos,
no Texans, no Colts, no Patriots, and no Commanders. So
some serious pieces are gone, some serious quarterbacks especially, so
it's going to be rough in them streets on the
waiver wire. You better get ahead of things, and speaking again,
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head of things. If you're here on the channel with
us and you watch the Sunday live stream, Joe Stredamis
showed up again. I was talking with my good pal
Debro Derek Brown, and I said, you know, now seems
like a good time to pick up Jordan Mason. It's
a game in the snow. Are probably gonna lose again.
Maybe they just shut down McCaffrey and just call it
a day at the end of things. And we had
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a good long conversation about it. And if you listened,
you got Jordan Mason for nothing. We're gonna talk about
him because McCaffrey with the PCL injury. Ooh, that ain't good.
Pat fitz Morris, You're always good. You're such a good boy.
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Speaker 3 (01:26):
Akenye scoring touchdowns well, eight touchdowns on twenty catches. He
is now up to forty percent on his touchdown rates,
and I believe he's at twenty one percent touchdowns on
all targets this year, Joe. So yeah, I keep I
keep trying to fade the inevitability having Nick Westbrook a
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keene weekly touchdown, and it keeps biting me in the
rankings every week.
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all the running backs, wide receivers, the streamers, everything in between.
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Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, that seems a little bit more accurate.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
All right, let's start here with Jordan Maysa at the
top of the show, because you know, stuff and cuff
and season is an important thing and Mason.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I think a lot of us probably sat here and Pat.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
We probably said to ourselves, you know, most people have
CMC probably should have had Mason already in some fashion,
Like if you had gotten dropped, you should have picked
him up. If you were going into the season, you
probably should have picked him up. We had talked about
that in Week one quite a bit. It's like, hey, look,
if mcaffick's not right, you might want to pick up
Mason here just to give yourself a little bit of insurance.
I talked about that on a Sunday show as well.
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So let's talk about Jordan Mason. Now through the rest
of season. I understand, you know, when you just looking
ahead the schedule, here four niners are pass their bos.
You don't have to worry about that. So you're gonna
get him every single week. And when he was playing Pat,
he was very solid. He was a guy that you
could rely on for the most part. Now, he did
have an injury of his own a few weeks ago.
He picked up, but yesterday seven carries for fifty three
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in the snow. Coming up next you get Chicago, the Rams,
Miami Dolphins, and then Detroit in week seventeen. So let's
talk about Jordan Mason as value rest of season. I
assume empty the clip kind of situation.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Whatever you got left, yes, splash the pot like Teddy
KGB and Rounders. It is an all in situation here.
I think I despise the term league winner.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Joe.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Rosters win leagues, not individuals. But Jordan Mason can certainly
be an invaluable piece to a championship roster down the stretch.
I just think back to what he was when he
was playing for the injured Christian McCaffrey earlier in the season,
a no brainer, weekly top five running back in ECR
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every week, and now the runout for him. The forty
nine ers next three games are against the Bears, very
bad against the run, the Rams, who have been getting
completely Try to ask Saquon Barkley about the Rams run defense.
And the Dolphins also much better against the pass than
the run. So the runout here looks great for Jordan Mason.
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The only question Joe I have is do the forty
nine ers maybe get Isaac Grendo somewhat involved?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Is a good question, you know, But and I apologize too,
because I gave you the McCaffrey line. It was actually
thirteen for seventy eight for Jordan May there on that one,
but the Grindo was my follow up questions, So I'm
glad you like launched right into it. So do you
even throw in a little piece of for Girndo too?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I mean, the people who are sitting with under fifty
percent of their fabin are inevitably not going to be
acquiring Jordan Mason because they're going to get outbid by
whoever's got a lot of fab and has been sitting
on that little egg all season long. I wouldn't mind if, yeah,
Like I think Gorendo is worth a ten or twelve
dollars bid, just in gaze, just in case something happens
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to Mason, just in case the forty nine ers decide
they want to audition Girndo a little bit more down
the stretch. And you know, Kyle Shanahan's been kind of
a monogamous one running back type of guy, but that
doesn't necessarily mean it's always going to be that way,
especially when the forty nine ers are pretty much out
of playoff contention at this point and are just kind
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of looking ahead well with that in.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Mind, looking ahead, debro Let's first look ahead, your take
on Mason, then your take on Grendo, and let's look
a little SEMC here too for the long term for.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Those people out there too, because I think that's going
to be a looming question.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
We have the over under on four and a half
games have been playing this year. Well, it came in
the under, and that was what we were afraid of unfortunately.
So deebro, let's talk about Mason so far at the
top here emptied the clip.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I mean what we saw, you know, weeks one through five,
he was averaging almost twenty touches a game, like he
was the RB eleven in fantasy, like lock it in.
Even if this team is dead, they're still going to
give the ball to Mason seventy to twenty times. He's
got good rushing matchups, and yeah, you need to be
tossing faboc at Grindo. He has been good whenever he's
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been given opportunities. He's a perfect scheme fit for this
run game. And the thing I want to throw out
here before we kind of transition this to looking at
CMC is I think it's highly possible we do see
Grindo get more run down the stretch because Jordan Mason,
all these are the guys that like a lie Mitchell,
Jordan Mason, Like this is why I was telling people
in Dynasty to pick up Grindo way back when. Was
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because these guys are free agents after this year. So
Grindo is the guy you're gonna look at. It is
he is going to be the handcuff for CMC next year.
So I think they could give him a little bit
of opportunity. I'm not saying that he's going to be
the leader of this backfield, but we'll be so shocked.
And the other thing about this, Jordan Mason's dealt with
his own injury stuff, Like he's had the shoulder pop
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up like one big hit. Does that crop back up?
We can't say that it doesn't. So I think Grindo
people need to be bidding on him. But we could
see a situation where maybe it's sixty percent Mason because
he hasn't been like a stud in the passing game.
It's been a lot of early down volume and maybe
we see forty percent of Grendo and he's, you know,
a weekly flex play. We've seen Christian McCaffrey have injured
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seasons and bounce back. Do you think he bounces back
from this one again? Derek Brown at the age of
a little be twenty nine next year. I don't think so, not,
not not to the CMC of old. I think you
could see him sadly bounce back and be what he's
been so far this season like a volume. Like basically, God,
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I'm gonna sound so dismissive by saying this, but the
like a like the Rolls Royce version of Leonard Fournette
where he gets like twenty to twenty five touches and
he's playing all the downs and he plays in the
passing game. But like we might because.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Four an end to me is actually the opposite of
like I I My concern, Pat is that CMC becomes
this guy that shows you those flashes you know, but
is not on the field all the time, and and
it continuously has these other things pop up whe the
body starts to break down. This was kind of like
the concern about mcafreck coming into the league was that
he was undersized and all this stuff, and then he
basically rubbed it in everyone's face for a couple of
years and then the injury set in and everyone.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
So okay, see I told you so.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
And then he came back and he had some monstrous years,
including last year, which was a stunning. But this shouldn't
surprise anybody considering this guy was playing football well into
February last year, right with that incredible workload. We talked
about the touches going into this year. Right, when guys
go over four hundred touches, it typically the next year
does not work out. We talked and talked and talked
about it, and here we are, pat he only played
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four games this year. And why are people so retizent
to listen when people talk about these things?
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, he Joe. I think maybe for the denu mott
of Christian McCaffrey's career, we have to look at him
and maybe an Austin Eckler type rowl, like we need
to find Christian McCaffrey his Brian Robinson, the guy who
takes every down while McCaffrey is the satellite backplus because
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he just can't hold up to twenty five touches a
game anymore.
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Joe?
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I was looking it up on my book here, Day
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forty nine er fans, including the Welsh, Look, you had
a good run last couple of years, and this is
what happens.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
But look at the Eagles. Look to the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
You can rebound the next season and be good again.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
So all is not lost. Just don't lose hope.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
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discussion panel here for the running back position, because we
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Speaker 2 (11:44):
All right, let's talk about two raiders guys here that
popped up this past week. We saw him playing back
Black Friday. I'm here Abdullah twenty seven percent rostered and
Cecia McCormick fresh off of the practice squad and then
got relegated back to the practice squad.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
But we don't know what the health of this running
back situation going to be.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Again, we're looking for a lot of help this week.
So Deebro, let's talk about Ameerbdullah and McCormick in this
Raiders offense, a team that has already been eliminated from
playoff contention.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I mean, both these guys need to be on rosters.
A Mirabdullah twenty seven percent roster. It's the Seers not
roster pretty much in any league. Both these guys need
to be on rosters. And I mean, right now, we're
scraping the bottom of the barrel for running back volume,
whether it's bye weeks, whether it's injuries, whether it's some
offenses going in the tank. I'm staring at you, Jacksonville.
We're looking at the running back position and it's tough
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man like. We're searching for volume. And I think either
one of these guys fit the bill and need be
on the back end of your benches like a Merebdullah
his first start, he was a top ten running back
for that week, and volume matters. So looking at their
upcoming schedule, there's a lot of teams that they can
run on. You get the Bucks, the Falcons, the Jaguars,
the Saints, and the Chargers. That's not bad at all, man,
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So where I think a lot of people would just
kind of snub their nose at it. We're looking at
volume and we need guys to fill in for flex
spots or running back spots in the upcoming weeks. Sincere
McCormick's the big guy that I want to talk about
because you could pick him up for maybe what a
dollar maybe two dollars a fab because if he I
mean his snaps last week jump from ten to thirty
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eight percent, what do we see in the weeks to come?
Because the Raiders, again they're not playing for anything. The
really need to run out a Mira Abdullah at this
stage of his career, this part of the season, to
see what they got in him, because there are no
real answers in that backfield right now for even next year.
So I like Sincere. I liked him as a prospect
coming out due was just injured, but now he gets
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to show the talent.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Pat don't want to get your take on the Raiders
Backfield before I do Daniel ma definition the final outcome
of the main dramatic compilation in a novel play, film,
or ANFL season. I just added that last one pat
the Raiders Backfield. Your thoughts on these two guys.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I'm interested in Sincere McCormick. I think maybe he gets
a late season audition for a bigger role, and Tonio
Pears has kind of talked him up a little bit.
I'm not really interested at all in a mirab Duela.
I think he had that one good week because the
forty or the Raiders had no other options that week. Suddenly,
you know, they just lost Alexander Madison completely, they lost
Samir White, and McCormick had been on the practice squad,
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so maybe they thought he wasn't quite ready to help out.
Now it seems like he's ready to help out. And
a mirror dula kind of goes back to this passing
down role that he had been in and had no
fantasy relevance in, so I don't think he has fantasy
relevance anymore. And Alexander Madison kind of a wild card
because he could be back from his ankle injury this week,
but at this point, don't you want to get a
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longer look at Sincere McCormick when you pretty much know
what you have on Alexander Madison.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I would agree with that, And then you know we're
all talking about the Buyes too. So no Dereck Henry
this week, No Joe Mixon this week, No Jonathan Taylor
this week, No Brian Robinson Junior this week, nor mondre
Stevenson this week. There's a lot of running backs that
you can't use in week fourteen. So Live Bodies is
where it's at. Kamani Viidell up to twenty three percent ross.
You know, we thought maybe we see a little Haskins.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
How is this.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Backfield going to look for the Chargers? So is Ydell
another guy that is worth stashing at this point for you,
Pap based on what you saw in terms of that
approach to that backfield. I know this coming week they
get the Chiefs, I believe again.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yes, terrible matchup this week. You're not gonna want to
use Videll this week if you do get him. But
Gus Edwards is bad, Like he is just bad. He's
old and pretty much useless at this point. Sorry Gus Edwards,
But like it's just not working for him. Hassan Haskins
lost a fumble on his first carry Sunday, didn't get
a second carry, so that we saw Jim Harp's verdict
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on that the door is really wide open for Videll
and the Chargers need a running back with more juice
than Gus Edwards can provide. They got lucky to win
on Sunday. I mean Kirk Cousins playing the role of
old Saint Nick delivering an early Christmas present for interceptions
to just gift wrap a narrow victory for the Chargers
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in that game. I should have won that game easily.
So they need to get they need to get a
playmaker back there. But the one concern with Videll, and
this is a big concern, and Beau mcbrair pointed that
out in our weekly Waiver Wire article this week, is
that Boat saw Commani Videll get blown up in pass
protection once. That's a big deal when Justin Herbert is
the franchise and you've got to protect the franchise.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, And for those of you in Atlanta, can you
hear right now, that's the sound of Michael Pennock's getting loose?
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Yeah? Attle loose.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Oh sorry, wrong arm, left arm madea Okay, there we go.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Let's let's get to your take on Vidal here real quick, Debro,
give me your two cents on him and this Charger
backfield rest of season.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
People need to stash him. I don't really understand what
we're doing with the Chargers, like we can all see it.
Why can't harball, Why can't Rollman like Gus has no juice?
Haskins an it? Play the kid that is the best
opportunity to get yards on the ground on that depth
chart right now, and they need to do it. I mean,
and he's he's played well every time they've given him
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opportunities in the run game in the past game, So yes,
please play Vandel. I mean, he got four carries, turned
out twenty rushing yards. The upcoming matchups aren't great, but
again we talk about volume. Is king if he ends
up walking into in these upcoming weeks sixty percent of
the opportunities, Yeah, he's still gonna be an RB two
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And I think you can produce just as well as JK.
Dobbins has been for the rest for you know, most
of the season.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
All right, let's talk about the Washington Commander's backfield too,
because we got into a weird spot there with Austin
Eckler enfortrained last weekend having that terrible concussion issue. He
then goes to IR Brian Robinson, who we thought would
have looked like a serious knee issue.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
He ended up playing.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
He had a big touchdown, big moments in that game.
Chris Rodriguez also worked there. Another body in this backfield.
I know you know he's not available, he's on a
buy this week, but is that a stash for you
on the down low going into the playoffs at all?
Debro Yeah, I mean he's worth he's in kind of
i'd say the a little bit below McCormick teer in
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that or should I say Vodell Like really, it's we've
seen Brian Robinson Junior and when he's been on the field,
he's been awesome, but he's been banged up, whether it's
been ankle, whether it's been knee, whether it's been hamstring,
whether it's been all these different issues. So Eckler to
the IR jerrymy Nichols, we know they're not going to
unleash him in a full time role or workhorse role.
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If anything were to happen to Brian Robertson Junior, Like,
do I want to chase last week's blowout production? No,
but do I think in a touchdown like that's that was?
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Like, Yeah, we're not chasing that, But what we are
chasing is the opportunity that if anything happens to Brian
Robertson Junior down the stretch, we know Chris Rodriguez is
going to be the early down guy in a run
first offense with a mobile quarterback who finally looks like
he's healthy again, and this offense looks explosive. That is
a type of player when we're looking at the back
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end of this season, you need to be having on
the end of your bench.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Pat after the buye Rodriguez against Dow Orleans, Philly and Atlanta.
Your thoughts on the schedule and maybe his usefulness.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I don't think he's going to be useful. I don't
think he's worth pursuing. So Robinson won't play again until
week fifteen in his best remaining matchup Week fifteen. You
can't play Rodriguez in week fifteen because he's not going
to get any work. Fine, Robinson. If Robinson were to
go down, then you're playing Rodriguez and feeling good about
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it in Week sixteen against Philly, like, I don't think so.
Plus Joe, he had seventy seven of his ninety two
excuse me, ninety four yards in the fourth quarter. I
mean he was the garbage time of hammering. They were
just letting Chris Rodriguez salt away the clock in a
blowout over Tennessee. So I don't think he has any value.
I think he's third on the depth chart, even with
Eckler out.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
All right, speaking of Eckler too, Pat, if you don't
have IR spots, you're just dropping him right to this point.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yeah, I don't think he can even come off until
week eighteen. I think that's this week to return. So yeah, right,
he's a goner.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
All right, let's get over and move and continue to
talk about the wide receivers. A few guys there of note,
some that we've talked about before, and a few other
ones that have cropped up lately.
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Speaker 1 (21:24):
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Speaker 2 (21:28):
All right, It's time to look at some wide receivers
as well. Let's start with Adam Thielan fifty percent rostered,
the old man getting some spots here towards the end.
And look at those those plucky Carolina Panthers keep pushing
everybody to the edge.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I gotta say, I love this, Like I'm.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Finding the Carolina Panthers entertaining on a weekly basis, covering
everything Debro, I really am yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
I mean, look the Bryce Young playing better down the stretch.
I don't know if any of us, any of us
had that on their bingo card for the end of
the season, but we're seeing it. So it's making all
these guys relevant. And Adam Delen, like, look, do I
think that the upcoming matchups are good or we need
to be worried about, like, okay, do we need to
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flex him versus the Eagles or the Cardinals? Which I
don't understand how the Cardinals are playing this good as
a defense, but they're doing it, so we need to
respect it. But can you flex Adam Delen versus the Cowboys,
who since Week six are allowed the highest PPR points
per target. Absolutely, so looking at him down the stretch,
I think he needs to be picked up. And I'm
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not going to play him in either one of those
other two matchups, but against the Cowboys, yeah, I'm gonna
flex him there.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Pat I'm a little surprised actually the theling was only
at the fifty percent mark. I thought it would have
been higher just heading into because it felt like the
narrative was, Hey, let's give the old man one last ride.
We're gonna go out there and use him and then
you know this might be the end for Adam Theelen's career.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah, still useful. I think Joe he had over one
hundred catches last year for the Panthers and was a
top ten PPR wide receiver as late as late November
for Carolina in twenty twenty three, So obviously he is
a comfortable security blanket for Bryce Young. Tough matchup against
the Eagles. You don't want to use him in Week fourteen,
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and as Deebro mentioned that the matchup against Arizona isn't
that great, but the odd week matchups for him the
rest of the way Dallas in Week fifteen and then
Tampa in Week seventeen, So like I think Adam Thielen
could actually be playable in those key playoff weeks as
like a third wide receiver or a flex.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
You know, Adam Thielen right now is very close to
going over eight thousand career receiving yards. That would put him,
you know, very close to the top one hundred of
all time, which is not something that necessarily I think
you would think about Adam Thlen. But a steady guy,
undrafted free agent, great story, So I hope he gets there.
I think that would be fun. He's he's very close
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right now. It looks like a sevenenty nine to sixty
one and to crack one hundred he'd have to get
to eight eight two nine one, so not too far.
A couple of good games here down the stretch might
be able to crack that.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
That would be fun.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
He would actually be right be passing Greg Jennings at
number one hundred overall, So I know that would sting
for you. Pat Devon Vley, he's gonna play tonight. We'll
see what get out of him. Forty percent rostered. That's
just a reminder too. Again, we'll see what happens this
evening with Bo Nicks has played very well. In fact,
if you go look at some of these you know,
recent statistics that you know he's been putting up there,
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he's moved up quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
In the Rookie of the Year race.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
But this was the stat that I found so interesting
about him, and it was bo Nicks has four games
with a seventy percent completion percentage, two passing touchdowns and
no picks this season. That's tied with Dak Prescott for
most by a rookie back in twenty sixteen. So he
has really, you know, turned that corner and he has
been very good for the Denver Broncos and VLA. Another
one of these pieces, mvs. Another piece that we've talked
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about a lot, thirty one percent rostered again, you know, threads,
the needle, the Taysom Hill injury. I mean, deebra, I
don't know what to say here about the Saints at
this point. I mean, I don't know, have I've ever
seen anything like this where a team's just literally losing
every player they have on offense.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
This is insane, It's crazy. I mean, they're having a
hard time even fielding it like a roster, not even
a competitive roster. Like anybody that can go out there
and run routes. You know, that's why MBS keeps and
we've talked about it in the Waiver Wire article and
he's honestly been the Nick wistbrook a Keyne spider Man gift.
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But he's getting it done deep passing like a Kyne
is scoring touchdowns. Well, so is NBS. And it's basically like, okay,
well he can't keep doing this, can he? And then
he keeps doing it because they keep facing teams that
struggle against deep passing, and so yes, saddle up NBS.
He needs to be a flex play again this week.
There is literally no other team that is worse versus
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deep passing than the freaking New York Giants right now,
they have allowed this six most deep passing yards and
the highest deep passer rating this season. So while we
keep saying it, like n WY with MBS, you can't
keep doing it, He's gonna do it for one more week.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
NWI four live baby.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Speaking of we can't keep doing this, Nick Westbergkini is
actually the next guy on the list twenty seven roster
pat He gets Jacksonville again.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
This is what he said last week too.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
He gets Jacksonville this week, Cincinnati, Indianapolis and then Jacksonville again.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
How many touchdowns is he gonna have?
Speaker 4 (26:23):
How many?
Speaker 1 (26:23):
How many's gonna have?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Come on, Pat, let's go, He's got eight right now
over this last stretch before we get to week eighteen.
How many more tds are we gonna get? Were gonna
get four out of him?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Five? What's up?
Speaker 3 (26:33):
He finishes at ten? He gets too, So yeah. But
just for the record, I'm like, I can't do the
Nick Westbrook a Keyna Marquez Valdez scant like thing. I
just can't do it, Like if I've got a playoff bound,
like I'm not pinning my hopes on dudes with the
low targets, you know, ridiculous twenty one yards per target
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type argut type, Like I can't do it, man, Like
the odds are just the targets are not there for
these guys to sustain what they're doing, and yet they're
sustaining it. I just like, you know the bottom is
going to drop out the minute you put those guys
in one of your playoff lineups.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
That's when they.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
You know, like I know he's on my benjob watching
him score two touchdowns, going I should have played him?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
All right?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
So who has more receiving touchdowns this year than Nick Westbrook?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Pat, you want to name a couple of guys off.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
The top of your head.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Name one, Jamar Chase.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Jamar Chase is one?
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
There are three? Well two more and then one that's
tied the most receiving touchdowns by an NFL player this year?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
He is?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
He is tied right now up there with eight.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I was not.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
One is the pros jeopardy here?
Speaker 1 (27:47):
One is a tight end. One is a tight end.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Don't look, don't look. I feel like de Bro's looking.
Don't look, I'm looking all right, Pat, it's a tight end.
You want to take a stab at it?
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Is it Mark Andrews?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
No, it's George Kittle with eight? He's tied with Wow,
only two people. So Jamar has thirteen receiving touchdowns. There's
two guys with nine. Both play in the NFC. One
plays for the Commanders and the other for a Super
Bowl favorite. Okay, So who is it Terry mc mclaurins McLaurin,
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And who is the NFC favorite right now? Theoretically?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (28:22):
On?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
He catches two hundred balls a day after practice.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Yes, oh, I'm roth.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Go So that's fun, right, But that's good.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Lord, that's your list, that's all.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
That's the list. That's the list. Chase with thirteen.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Four on pat side of it, like this can't be
keep up.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
The thing is, I think it also speaks how disappointing
maybe receiving touchdowns have been this year for some of
the big guys.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
That's fair.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I mean, Mike Evans is seven, but he missed you know,
a few missed order and ironically are disappointing. Marvin Harrison Junior,
he's got seven too. He's right behind Nick Westburg, Kingday
and George Kettle.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Again, that's it.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
It's a short list. It's not been a prolific year.
Justin Jefferson in on this he gotta he gotta scroll
down to find him, like, you know, he's a five.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
So just saying Nick Westburg a kenye, sustainable, probably not
happening every week?
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yes, yes, it is all right. Let's get to.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Another guy here, Brandon Cooks, he bro You threw him
on this list today, so I want you to talk
about him.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
What do you see that might be useful for him?
Speaker 4 (29:23):
I mean, it's just we're going to it just comes
out to the matchups. Guys like the matchups that he
gets upcoming. I'm not telling you that I want to
invest in a Cooper Rush led passing attack, but Brandon Cooks,
the matchups are awesome upcoming Cincinnati, Carolina, Tampa Bay. Tell
me which one of those secondaries that you should worry
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about there is nobody? So I understand it's a gross name.
I understand it's a gross pack passing attack. I understand
the quarterback play is not going to be great. These
matchups are fantastic, And if he didn't have this type
of schedule over the next three weeks, I wouldn't be
talking about Brandon Cooks.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
All right. Parker Washington four percent rostered. You've dismissed him
in the past, by the.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Way, terrible, horrible hit Trevor Lawrence took. I mean, the
guy just came back and what a dirty hills. You
hate seeing that Parker Washington was able to go out
there and be fantasy productive, you know, regardless of that.
So pat is that a guy in this tough week
where we're missing so many players. Again, McLaurin out, you're
missing the Colts wide receivers, You're missing Nico Collins.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
You just got him back a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
He's out.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
No cooland Sutton, the Ravens, guys, A Flowers, Bateman, they're
not available. So is this a streamer at least for you?
Parker Washington Week fourteen.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I can't get there, Joe, I just can't. I mean,
it's it's Brian Thomas, it's Evan Ingram. So he's a
tertiary receiver in a pretty weak passing game.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I'm not even gonna try to spell tertiary. All right,
let's go to a drop protection Ricky Pearsall. I think
a lot of people will have him on roster bubbles, pat.
Is that somebody that you'd be looking to drop for?
Dare I say Nick Westburgocine or let's say an Adam.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
The Yeah, Pearsall's imminently droppable, just not involved enough.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
And to that point, deebro, if you drop him, do
you have any fear that fomo of do? The forty
nine ers got into an evaluation period right where they
where they start playing Piers All.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
More like that. That's the thing I think most people.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Are most fearing about dropping Piers And I thought it
was worth talking about the show today.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Yeah, I mean, I understand the fear of that. I mean,
but if they go into that type of vow mode,
then I mean, wouldn't you want to give run to
somebody like Debo down the stretch that maybe you're looking
at possibly trading away this offseason? So I just yeah,
to me with Pearsol, it's all been theoretical, and I mean,
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come on, man, like he doesn't he has three targets
in his last three games. He doesn't even have a
catch since Week ten. So for me, it's all of it,
it's all theoretical. For him, it's all fugazi Like, I
can't hold him any longer. You've been hanging out way
too much with me when you start using words like that.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
All right, let's get to the streamers for a week fourteen.
Let's start with the quarterbacks. How about a guy that
threw for four thousand yards yesterday, Debro, how about that?
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Let's start there.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Yep, we're gonna go to Russell Wilson, and I know
people are gonna look at the stat line and say, well,
he's getting Cleveland again. Why do you want to play
him against them? Well, hopefully it's not a Hopefully It's
not a blizzard an avalanche in this game. And we
see Russell continue to do Russell things, and I mean
he played well yesterday. We can't, you know, walk away
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from that now. And as Cleveland Brown's pass defense has
not been playing good like since Week seven. Third highest
arts per attemptal out, second highest pass rating. Russell Wilson's
probably gonna flirt with KBI one value again this week.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I feel like the Steelers are a very dangerous team. Sometimes
they they hurt themselves with things. But that's the team
in the playoffs. Like, I just don't know if I
want I want to see them. I do not want
to see the Steelers. They just got a bad feeling
about that. Fitzy, give me a QB you want to
stream this week? With so many qbs unavailable?
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yeah, in a six team by I feel a little
bit better about throwing out this name. Will Levis. He
has scored at least sixteen Fantasy points in four straight games,
and he gets the dream matchup with Jacksonville this week.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah, he sure does, sure does.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
All right, let's talk about a tight ends or a
tight end you feel might be worth streaming this week.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Is there anybody left on the New Orleans Saints that
we could.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Play, Yes, Juwan Johnson. I mean, who else is there
to throw to besides mvs like and Juwan Johnson, I know,
has been on the verge of popping and every time
it seems like he is about to become a desirable
asset completely face plants, and maybe that happens again. But
you know, without Taysom Hill, we saw seven targets for
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Juwan Johnson, five catches for thirty six yards. I think
he's going to be pretty prominently involved in the Saints
passing attack going forward.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah, it's a very astute observation. We've reached a portion
of the show where Derek Brown.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Gets to talk about will Disley every week, So go ahead.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
I understand people were hurt. I get it. I was
as well. He put up a very Ricky Pierson stat
line last week. It was tough. But again we talk
about the dream matchups. Joey will Disley gets the Kansas
City Chiefs, which are a top three match up the
entire season, and hey, here's the other thing. Maybe Justin
Herbert doesn't have any other options. Lad McConkey, we don't know.
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He left last week's game. We don't know if he
plays this week, so another bump for Will Disley.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
All right, let's talk about a defensive stream this week
and week fourteen, Deebro, who do you have?
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Oh, let's see who's playing Drew Locke this week?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
God, it's the Saints. Here we go, here we go?
All right? How about you Pat defense for week fourteen?
Speaker 3 (34:40):
So Deebro earlier talked about the Cardinals and how he
can't believe they're playing as well as they are while
they're playing pretty well, and they play Seattle this week.
The Seahawks have given up the fourth most fantasy points
to opposing defenses. And if you want to ride the
Cardinals for a few weeks after that, they get the
Patriots in week fifteen, the Panthers in week sixteen, So
you could actually have like a three week run with
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the Arizona Cardinals defense.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
You mean the Panthers the best team of the league. Pat,
how dare you? All right, let's talk about a streaming
kicker for week fourteen?
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Pat?
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Who do you have?
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Will reikerd coming off ir this week? Assuming his quad
is okay, You'll want to maybe double check that before
you put your hard earned fab dollar on Will reikerd
but only three percent roster goes against the Falcons, who've
given up the second most points per game to kickers.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah, well, kicking was not good yesterday's Aston Tucker Tony
make you got kids out there, Teach them to kickfield
goals boys, girls, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Teach me the kickfield goals.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
They might have a job waiting for them for a
long time. All right, Debro, give me a kicker to
stream for this week.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Chase McLaughlin. The Raiders are not very good. Think tamp
Bay is going to be the red zone very often.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
All right.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
That brings us to our top five ads for week fourteen.
Pat fitz More is give me your top five.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Jordan Mason easy number one this week. Kamani Videll is
second for me. Keon Coleman, who we didn't meant but
who's still under fifty percent rostered in Yahoo and and
probably some other site or league hosting sites. Also Russell
Wilson number four, Will Disley at number five, who still
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is is fairly widely available.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
All right, So Mason, Videal, Coleman, Wilson and Disley, Debro,
who do you have for your top five this week?
Speaker 4 (36:21):
In fourteen, Mason is number one, easily runaway number one,
Vedell is number two, will Disley is number three. I
am going to chase the MBS with number four as
a possible flex play. And then Sincere McCormick is number five.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
No love for Nick westbrookakinya, And what does this guy have?
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Dear?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
We need to get you many touchdowns?
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Does he need to get your T shirt? Man?
Speaker 2 (36:45):
I'm you know, I'm gonna be able to retire just
rolling over my bets every week on Nick Westbrookakenya has
score a touchdown any actually anytime. Actually, it's funny my
cousin did based off of the conversation that not having
on the TV this morning yesterday morning, and she won
a bunch of money.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I mean like minus two hundred. Oh well, the thing
is not it was plus two something. It was more
than two to one.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Again because of Pat's reasoning, which is like, there's not sustainable,
but not sustainable except for the fact that it keeps
happening and that he's you know, tied for fourth in.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
The league in touchdowns. But alas the.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
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