October 23, 2024 • 48 mins
LOOK OUT! It’s only Films To Be Buried With!
Join your host Brett Goldstein as he talks life, death, love and the universe with the brillant actor, music maker and film maker ALEX WOLFF!
As a quick short-hand for regular listeners of the podcast who want a quick face to a name, Alex played Peter in FTBBW classic Hereditary (the whole episode is practically built on a foundation of spoilers so watch that first if it's on your "to do" list!). However, Alex is known for so much more! You might know him from The Naked Brothers Band in a younger time, or perhaps more recently A Quiet Place: Day One, or the Jumanji updates. It is a genuine pleasure to know that he's a total film nerd and it's a really fun and funny hang with these two - pure joy and as said, frequent Hereditary spoilers (but context clues will help you if you don't know the film or are not a horror fan). Enjoy! You will!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Look el, there's only films to be buried with. Hello,
and welcome to films to be buried with. My name
is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian and actor, a writer,
a director, a teacup, and I love films. As Dr
(00:22):
Zeus once said, fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living,
but a Lord of the Rings all nighter is too
much for my blood. Man well surprising when they're doctor.
Every week I invite a special guest over. I tell
them they've died. Then I get them to discuss their
life through the films that meant that most of them.
Previous guests include Barry Jenkins, Amber Ruffin, Sharon Stone, and
even Ked Slambles. But this week it is the brilliant musician,
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actor and star mister Alex Wolf. My stand up tour
of North America the second Best Night of your life.
I've only got two dates left. I'm with Bellingham and Seattle.
Come see me there. Shrinking Season two, Episode three is
out this week. Get caught up on all of them
over on AppleTV. Head over to the Patreon at patreon
dot com forward slash breat Goldstein, where you get about
twenty minutes extra chat with Alex, you get a secret.
(01:08):
You get the whole episode unca adfree and as a video.
Check it out over at patreon dot com forward slash
Brett Goldstein. It's good stuff. So Alex Wolf is a
musician and an actor and a movie star, and.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
We had a very lovely time.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I hadn't met him before we recorded this on Zoom
the other week.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
He was a fucking joy. He's brilliant.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I really really enjoyed spending time with him, and I
think that you are going to love this one. So
that is it for now. I hope you're all well,
and I very much hope you enjoy episode three hundred
and twenty two of Films to be Buried With. Hello,
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and welcome to Films to be Buried With. It is
me Brett Goldstein, and I am joined today by a musician,
an actor, a writer, a director, juice, a hero, a legend,
a hereditaria, a pigre, a cat and the moona a
naked brother, a clothes brother, a hero and legend and
(02:12):
all round superstar. He's sometimes in a quiet place and
sometimes he talks. Here he is to talk. Please, welcome
to the show. It's the brilliant, It's Alex Wolf.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Wow, I can never live up to that. That intro
was far too.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Good for me.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Come on, get out of here.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I'm so happy to be here. Man. I'm such a
big fan of yours.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Shut up. I'm a massive fan of yours.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
You're amazing.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
You're amazing. Can we talk about I want to talk
about someone. You've been in at least three all time classics?
At least can we say that? Thank you for saying that.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Your Manji, I stand by.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I think the best big fun Hollywood film made in
ages when not only is it really really fun and
everyone's great, the plot makes sense is so it's a
unique thing.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Towards Yeah, I followed everything. Yeah, totally, both of them.
I really I really love the second one too, with
Danny de Vita.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, both exit.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Yeah, I did a great job. Well, that's Jake Kasdan.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
He's just he's such a great storyteller. He really knows
how to make a movie that is really fun and
really funny and also works as a movie. You know,
it doesn't have a bunch of crazy magic logic.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
It's kind of just.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Logic, Like, well, if I go in the game and
you know, coming up with Dwayne and rock Johnson running
his hands and missing his hair, and you know that's
like really just basic human stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
It's really good and it sounds good and mistakes three
deaths and you're dead.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
It's a great idea, it's really it's great.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
He did a great job. He's a great guy.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
And a quiet place. Day one phenomenon.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, Michael was someone that I met before he'd ever
directed a movie, and I loved him and knew he
was a genius kind of from our first meeting. The
only thing I thought was I was thinking, well, maybe
he's too nice to be a genius, because he's so
warm and lovely. And it turns out, you know, you
can be really kind and really easy to work but
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then also be a genius.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
They do exist.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Yeah, it it's a few of them.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
And then oh, I said three. I mean four, because
you've also got Pig, which I think.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Is also Michael.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, fucking Amasion, tell me about Pig. I love that
film so much.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, that's when I met Michael Is for that movie.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
And you know, a lot of movies you have to
fight for or hard. You know, that's part of the
process of being an actors.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
It's like I feel like most ninety percent of my
job is trying to say, yes, I can do that,
I could do that, I could make that work. Yeah,
just give me a chance and I'll you know. And
this was a very very rare circumstance where he saw
me an hereditary and really connected with my character in
that and I thought I was really right for this film,
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and it luckily I didn't have to jump through too
many hoops to get the role. It was one of
the gifts, one of the only just gifts, kind of
hand wrapped, given to me in my life, and it's
something I'm forever grateful for. And to work with my
number one favorite actor of all time, Nicholas Cage. And
I feel like some people say, like, oh, it was
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my favorite actor, but Nick was someone that I was
watching constantly to give me confidence and to get inspired.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
So it was really beyond serendipitous.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
It was like a gift from the universe to be
able to make that movie with him, and he's become,
you know, one of the most important people in my life.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
I don't know what I'd do without him.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I love to hear that. So he's not a diad.
I love that.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Oh, he's the sweetest. He's one of the sweetest people
I've ever met. He's just warm and giving and real
and funny and brilliant.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Love to hear that. That makes me very happy. And
then can we talk about her red now? Of course
I haven't talked about this for a long time on
this podcast, but I talked about a lot when it
came out.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I like horror films, love horror films.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I feel like horror films are like doing drugs right
sometimes sometimes drugs are really fun. When I saw Hereditary,
it was like I'd done too many drugs.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Like it really fucked me.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
It fucked me up so badly that I think I
stopped watching horror for a little bit because I didn't
sleep for a week after Hereditary.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
It really really like fucks me up.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
And part of when I think of it, I think
it's amazing, Like it's an amazing piece of work. And
part of it, I think is to do with you,
is to do with when, for example, the thing happens
in the car, it's us staying on you. It feels
like a minute of just your face, just the shock
of it. And I think in most horror films where
it's fun, where that bit is fun, is like that
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would happen and we jump and it would be shocking,
and then we move on, but we sort of stay
on the emotional kind of trauma of it and the
aftermath of it, and then you're going home and getting
into bed and it's like it's so upsetting, like emotionally,
I don't know the word.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I found it. It really fucked me up.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
And everything that you go to in that film is
so painful and real and like I found it quite
quite sad, and I wondered what it is like to
film that and whether the actual filming of Preditory was
fun and you all laughed a lot, or whether it
was a heavy like because it's also you know, it's
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not I don't know, it's not a true story about
a terrible thing. Like there's no reason you don't have
to have a reverence on set, you know what I mean.
But at the same time, it's such a powerful film.
I wondered what it is like day to day on
that film.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Well, thank you for saying all that.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I mean, you know, it's it's strange because when you're
in a movie that's such a aggressive act of alright, horror,
you wouldn't normally think that you get pride from someone
telling you that they were so upset by it. But
I do think that something is really meaningful in watching
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a movie that gets at something truly horrific and evil
and human about life. And I think that the reason
we watch horror movies.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
I think it.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Ari always talked about it, that things have gotten lost
a bit and that horror has become a bit of.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
A comfort food.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
People like it as a formula, But that's not really
why horror movies began, in my opinion, or why horror
movies are so affecting. I believe that horror movies are
supposed to tackle some terrible things about life, so you
can kind of experience in them, experience them during the moment,
and there's some emotional catharsis to it. And I think
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that it's not just that Ari found emotional catharsis or
I found emotional cathartists doing it, that people find catharsis
in watching it, especially people who have had paint in
their families or you know, just have a great degree
of empathy about terrible things in the world. And I
think it's about a family feeling cursed and That's why
I think the movie resonates in a deeper way than
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a movie that just works on a supernatural level, which
I think Hereditary does. I think it's also scary ghost story,
but I think it also works on an emotional metaphorical
level of the worst time.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
In a family's life.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
You know, it might as well be you know, your
little sister's you know, head might as well come off
because of how horrible it feels in your family at
that time. So I think making it we because it
digs up things that are very emotionally true to us personally.
It was heavy, you know as a heavy environment, but
it was also cathartic and at times fun because I
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think I had never felt so connected to a director
at that point. I think I'd never seen a director
who was so set on a vision but also wanted
to include you in that vision.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
I've never seen that. I just had never seen that.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I'd worked with a bunch of great directors, but the
way Ari works is I think, really think he's, you know,
one of the greats, and he he really included me
in that process and sort of educated me about what
it takes to to make a movie at the level
that he wanted to make the movie at so I
think in that way, it was really fun.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
It was like we were kind of both bonding, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
It was like going to war or something, obviously not
as severe as war.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
I'm like already nervous about the headline. It's like going
to war.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
It's not it's a movie. It's it's it's fun. It
is cushy. But I just mean in that you form
a community of people who have gone through this experience
that at times is very unpleasant, but you all get
closer through it, and I think Ari and I became
really bonded for life through that experience.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Fucking great, great, Phil, Thank you. Man.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I watched a few interviews with you before this, and
it's clear that you're not a dickhead.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
But you you start doing that, man, you started very young.
How come you're not a dickhead?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I've been told that I am a dickhead a time.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Okay, sorry, yeah, you got that totally wrong.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Uh well, it's I don't think it's that hard to
not be like a monster. I mean, it's such a
it's such an amazing job. I mean, how are you
not a dickhead? I feel like, you know, a lot
of people get nominated for awards and stuff and then
immediately be kind of get wrapped up. And I think,
if there's anything I mean, some people might say that
I am or whatever, but I think, if there's anything
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that makes me more well adjusted than certain people have
been doing this a long time, it's that I've seen
being really famous from a young age, and then I
saw myself be not famous at all, and nobody wanted
to touch me with a ten foot pole in the industry.
And then I saw success again, and then you lose
it again, and and I think I have just seen
that success is so fragile and has nothing to do
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with your happiness. So I think I just try and
also have a life and value my art above everything.
And I think that when people get really upset, I
think when their child starts and they become really famous
and then they're not wanted, it's taken away from them.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I think they then try to find ways to kind
of fill that void.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
And it's you know, it's not immediately gratifying to throw
yourself into an art form necessarily, you know, you either
want to turn to drugs or whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
I think after I was on Nickelodion. Then I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I think there is an anxiety and a vulnerability there
that was overwhelming, and then I think you just kind
of ride through it and you realize that life is
long and things come and go and it all doesn't
really matter that much.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
But to me, the art does. So you know, I
don't know. That's no wisdom. It's just something that I've
learned from myself.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
It's pretty good. It's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
And I play a lot of basketball.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Okay, Alex, I feel terrible. I've forgotten to tell you something.
I should have said it. I should have said it sooner, actually,
because I feel, on the other hand, I sort of
feel like you've already figured everything out, so maybe this
is okay. I'll just I'll just I'll just tell you
and then we can we can move on. Tell me
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you've died, you're dead?
Speaker 4 (13:17):
When did I die?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
You?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Tell me? How old would you like to be when
you die?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I only died in quiet place. That's the only time
I've ever died in a movie.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
But it was real because you're not dead. You're dead?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Why am I dead?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
You tell me? I have you.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Have you? You're dead, You're dead. You died, we're going
to be talking about you.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Why did I die?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Well, it's up to you how you died. You get
to choose how you died.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Tell me how did I die?
Speaker 1 (13:49):
You were playing basketball, okay, to relax because you know,
because life.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Is just so stressful, and then and then I died.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Stressful, but you were also like life is long. And
you play bakeble it brings you sort of peace, feels
connected with the community of people you play with. And
you've been working on dunkin. You've been working really hard
on it. And you have a friend. You've been working
on this move where you sort of jump, he crouches,
you jump on his back and you go and you
do a proper yeah dunk. And you've been working this
for a while and everyone's everyone's there with lots of
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people there, and you're waiting me up, and you're like,
let's try it.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Let's try it, and you run.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, you jump off his back and your hand slips
and your head gets caught on the ring.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
I would like it to be head trauma. I would
like that to be so I think that's good. That's
the way that I die.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Well, Actually, your head got caught in the ring and
as you snapped back, it pulled your head off and
your head did roll.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
In which I would be so perfect.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I mean, if that happened, I feel like the memes
would come like.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
That day, Yeah about hereditary Unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, god fuck, I don't even thought about that A
way to go.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
My best friend, my best friend, Rider was making jokes
about it, like two weeks ago. He's like, man, I
really hope there's no tragy you in your head because
people would be making memes like the next day.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I was like, it would maybe undermine your legacy a bit,
you know what I mean? I like it wouldn't I
feel like that would sort of be the thing people
talk about for a while. Yeah, and I'd be writing
articles like but what about your Mendi? And they go, yeah,
but he didn't die by being in a computer game.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
He did.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
His head got ripped off on a bosm.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Yeah that's truth. That's the truth. Okay, So I'm dead.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Do you worry about death?
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Not as much as I worry about other things.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
It's like, it's like probably fifth or sixth on my list,
maybe seventh.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
And ask what's number one? Or is that private? Private business?
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Number one is interviews? Saying the right thing.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Number two is how am I going to make it
to the Olympics before I'm thirty?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Doing whatever?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
No, no, not for basketball, just for we're whatever, you know,
ski whatever I'd like to be in the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
I'm Brandon okay and myself in the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Number three, playing all the right notes on when I'm
on stage playing music.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Number four, people being mad at me. I don't like
people being mad at me.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Number five again, it's if I'm going to get to
the Olympics like in time. Number six again it's crazy,
but I'm really worried about this Olympic situation and if
it's going to be like I'm worried that I'm not
going to try I didn't try hard enough to get
myself to the Olympics. That's number six. And then number
seven is am I going to die? And then number
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eight is something about eating something I'm allergic to.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
That's like number eight.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I feel like the Olympics thing is obviously you know,
a big concerns turned up four times on your list. Yeah,
I feel it's all possible. I just feel like you
need to focus on what you need to focus on.
What the sport rude.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Yeah, why don't I have to make a sport?
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Well, you know, I just think you've got to your
thirty right, I feel like you might have to focus
on the one thing you think you have a shot at.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
No, I see, I want to do the mo I
don't have to do them all.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
I just want to throw myself out there and any
sport can choose me to do something.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Like a lottery, like a lottery system for you.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, like a lottery. Yeah, like a like a like
a lottery. And I would like to die at the Olympics. Oh,
I would like to die at the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Or would you die with your head in a basketball
hoop at the Olympics?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
However, however you want me to die at the Olympics?
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Boom there?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
What about the hop? Skipping? A jump?
Speaker 4 (17:26):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
It's one of the sports of the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
It's called a jump.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
It might be called.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Something else, but you essentially hopping, then you skipping, then
you jump. It's like a long jump.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Good one, Yeah, sign me up, sign me up.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
But you trip and you land on your head and
your head comes off.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
We've already established if that works totally fine for me.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
What do you think happens when you die? As in
is there after life?
Speaker 4 (17:47):
I think you get sent to a TGI Fridays?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Do you? I do? God, they never tell us that
in church.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Yeah, but they do.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
They do say it on various websites that you go
to Tegritas.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Yeah, it's fine. TJ Fridays is fine.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
And you're a customer, you're working there, or you're you're
just taking out.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Just hanging out. Yeah, if you've been really bad in
your life, you get sent to the back. And if
you if you're terrible, like a murderer, then you're a waiter.
A TGI frid is not there's anything wrong with that.
It's just what happens. I didn't make the rules.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Do you get flair on your outfit like TJ flair?
Of course?
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Okay, you don't get to take it home.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
But well, you're in I assume you're sticking around in TJ.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Yeah, there's a bunk. There's a bunk, right right, there's.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
A Well I got news for you.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
There is actually a heaven, okay, and it's filled with
your favorite thing.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
What's your favorite thing?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Movies?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Well, fucking hell, you're gonna love it here. Because there's
fucking they love movies here.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
They love it.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
This movie is thank God, Thank God.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
And they're really big fans of you, and they want
to talk to you about your life, but they want
to talk to you about your life through film. The
first thing they ask you, what is the first film
you remember seeing?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Alex wild Hard Days Night, the Beatles movie. That was
the first movie I ever saw. Yeah, I think that
was the first movie. And then I remember being brought
to see a Neil Young documentary when I was a
little kid, and then Bowfinger It's one of my favorites
I saw at a young age.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
And then Space Jam. I remember that being the selection run.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Is this because your family are a musicians because you
have a naked brother and a musician father.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Maybe, But you know, my parents didn't watch those movies religiously.
I mean, they were big Beatles fans, but I think
we really all saw it together when I was when
I was a kid and me and my brother would
watch them over and over again. We also watch a
bunch of you know, basketball footage, like footage of the
Lakers and Celtics playing each other, and then you know
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all the Michael Jordan highlights and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
That was early only.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
What film made you cry the most? Do you like crying?
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Love?
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Crying in movies ordinary people? When I first saw it
made me cry really hard, really really affected me. You know,
the movie Cries and Whispers by Bergmann. There's a scene
between the two sisters where they're at the dinner table
and you can tell that they really want to make up,
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but instead they're just being so nasty to each other
because I think there is so much emotion there.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
It's one of my favorite scenes ever.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
And right after they finally make up after saying the
most just vile things to each other, And when they
make up, right after, I started crying of relief because
there's so much stress when I think anything to do
with families and conflict and kind of persevering that always
moves me. And then I remember Bamby making me cry
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so hard that when I was a kid that I
still haven't seen it since then.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah, why would yousrable? Yeah? Horrible.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
It's a really really tough movie.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
That Cries and Whispers scene. Did it make you think
of your brother? Is that how things are with your brother?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
I wonder?
Speaker 3 (20:59):
No, it's it's not like that we're great to each other,
but it probably is something to do with, you know,
if we had talked, you know, if we did talk
to each other that way, And it's my empathy for
sometimes when people are at their nastiest, they're like one
stop away from breaking down and sobbing, and you know,
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and you're like kind of a second away from connecting
with someone. So I think that that movie is all
about people being. All of Bergmann's movies, I think it's
why he's my favorite director, at least top three, is
because you know, some people find his movies to be impenetrable,
like they're they're a bit opaque, or they're a bit
self serious, like I know people's criticisms, but I have
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never felt that way because I always felt when people
are being nasty to each other or saying these things
to each other, there's a lot of vulnerability being hidden
in those moments. And I've always felt like when I
saw movies, films that didn't ever speak to me, is
when people are saying things that are acidic to each
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other to try and you know, show how terrible human
beings are. I always felt that's one of the things
I love about Hereditary is I feel that they're actually
that family wants to fix things. That's the horror of
it is that she's trying to save him, you know,
from this fate and she you know, they have all
this conflict, but they're all trying.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
They really are trying.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
And I think that's what I love about Bergmann is
that I feel that in those scenes, especially the scenes
with the family, like an Autumn Sonata, when the when
the daughter and the mother are fighting. Of course you
understand that live Ooman's perspective of her mother being cruel
and kind of a narcissist and so such a far
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superior piano player to her, and all these reasons that
Live Woman would be resentful of her. But there's this
interesting moment at the end where after you've been rooting
against the mother, you see her reaching out of hand emotionally,
and live Oleman kind of rejects it. So heartbreaking because
people are all, I think, trying their best. And that's
my long winded way of saying, you know, I think
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Prize and Whispers is a great example of people.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Who really do want to.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Work things out, but there's just so much anger and
hatred and resentment that blocks them from doing that, and
I just love movies to deal with that.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Very wise man, just talking a lot.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
I'm sorry, no, I really it's really.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
I love talking about other people's movies far more than
I love.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Talking about Yeah, I think that's very wise about people
at the Nasties says seconds away from crying. I think
that's true. That's really interesting. Look, you've done one of
the great horrors. What's the film that scared you the most?
Would be Hereditary one of them?
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Wow, thank you.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I would say that movie scared me the most too,
because it was, you know, scarring. But I saw What
Lies Beneath when I was a kid, and that really
really scared me. And then I rewatched it and it
didn't scare me even my But I find don't look
now to be something is rotten in that movie. Something
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is really wrong that Repulsion Roman Polanski. Something is very
wrong with that movie. There's something rotting about that movie.
It's just like it makes you feel ill. Those movies
really horrified me. Kids by Larry Clark really horrified me,
saying that I found out.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
To be one of the great horror movies of all time.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
And Rosemary's Baby well actually had an amazing experience where
I just saw Rosemary's Baby in a theater and it
started to freak me out so much that I left,
even though I've seen it a billion times. Wow, really
was like overwhelmed by it emotionally, and I was like,
I can't and I was thinking, that's maybe the greatest
movie ever made. It opened up such a well of
emotion to me. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I got to ask you about Dodley now, because that
is what I think is the greatest film of all time.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I've never thought of it as rotten.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
It depends on what you mean by as in, I
think Texas Chainsaw Massacre feels rotten. Likely there's something wrong
with the film stock yeah, yeah, yeah, feel absolutely sort
of dangerous.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Like I love Texas chains I'm masker, but but Texas
Chainsaw Masker did not is not in my bloodstream.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
It's so fun to watch and really.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Scared me watching on my projector with my two best
friends and we watch every horror movie together.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
It did not.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Don't look now feels like, you know, the only musical
way is like a like a C in a G
sharp like a tri tone, like something is.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
They don't work together, like something.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Is something off off.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
About that entire movie, Like even when he's in Venicon
moving around and when he's hanging on the construction site
and it just lingers on him, almost falling. It's just
like it made me ill. That movie makes me physically ill.
Same with repulsion.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Interesting.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Interesting, Why do you think it's the scariest of you ever?
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Well done it? Now? I don't know that. I think
it's the scariest. I love it.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I think it's like the greatest I think because of
how it does time, And I think it's really scary
in the end, really scares me. It's creepy and the
sisters are really creepy. Oh yeah, But I think it's
also lovely, don't look know, I love their marriage and
I love them. I think they're the best screen couple ever.
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Like I just so good by them as a married couple,
and they're so lovely. So I don't think it's like
in the way I say, like Texta Chains and Mesica
feels wrong. There's something very wrong with it.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Yeah, something very ugly about that movie.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I think it's beautiful as well as scary and creepy
and fucked up.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
But it's also Yeah, and the and the cinematography is
so lyrical, and everything about the movie is kind of intoxicating.
But that's to me, what's even more twisted about it?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Interesting, what is the film that you love? People don't
like it. It's not a critic favorite, but you love
it unconditionally.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
It's funny. I was gonna say Kids.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I know I brought up Kids before, but I want
to talk about Kids, and I want to talk about
Space Jam because and I want to talk about Help,
the Beatles movie. I want to talk about those three movies.
I just just came up with them now, honestly. But
Kids is a movie that I know a lot of
people loved, but you know, it has something like a
forty and rotten tomatoes or something, and you know, I
think people saw it as exploitation and maybe it was
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off camera. And I think all the criticism of the
movie and the you know, lack of professionalism on set
and all of that is totally valid, of course, But
if we're talking about it just as a piece of work,
I don't find that that movie is you know, over
the top or sensationalism at all. I actually find it
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to be one of the more honest movies about being
a kid in New York, and I think that, yeah,
everyone makes decisions that are pretty terrible in it. You know,
in the end of the movie is the worst case scenario.
But to me, it just feels like a worst case
scenario movie. It doesn't feel like science fiction. I think
that a lot of people wanted to push that movie
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away because it shook them up in such a radical way.
I think people just weren't able to stand by that
just vulgar kind of movie.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
I just don't think people could stomach it.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
And I'm here to say that I think, you know,
it's really one of the more special movies that's ever
been made. And it still holds up, and it still resonates,
and even though it's timely, it's also timeless, and it's incredible.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
I think it's an incredible movie that.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I know a lot of people love it, But a
lot of people still will fight me on that movie,
and I think it's crazy. Space Jam is objectively a
great movie, and I don't know what people's problem with
the original Space Jam. It's objectively a great movie. There
is no my opinion doesn't matter in this case. That
movie is objectively great.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Same with Help. The Beatles movie.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Help is a zany, strange movie with spotty acting. They
were stoned the entire time they were making it. It
is a total trip of a movie, and it is silly,
and the plot makes no sense, and it's about Ringo's
ring that they can't get it off. I mean, it
is the craziest, it's offensive, it has there's a lot
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of ingredients of a bad movie. But because it's the
Beatles and they have the best music ever, and it's
so gigly and so unabashedly silly, that's a movie that
I defend, even though people don't take it seriously as
a movie.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Fantastic answers Alex Wolf. What is on the other end
of the scale a film that you loved, but you've
watched it recently and you've thought, oh, I do not
feel the same way about this anymore.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Well, I think there's so much film criticism out there
that I'm always reticent to criticize movies.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
I'm like, I agree with you, and it doesn't have
to be like because it's a bad film. It might
actually just be because your position in the world is change.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I mean, breakfast to Tiffany's is pretty offensive. I'll see
been watching that, Retiani's Wowsers, that movie and that and
Taming of the Shrew. Elizabeth Taylor does her best with it.
I think those two movies they're tough. They don't totally
stand the test of time, and you don't really have
a defense because if you watch Seven Samurai, or you
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watch movies from you know, long before that, they hold
up as if it's a modern masterpiece, so there isn't
really a defense.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Repositivities is pretty brutal.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
I think that is a totally legit.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
I think it's legit. I think it's pretty ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
What is the film that means the most to you?
Not necessarily the film itself is good, but the experience
you had seeing it will always make it important to you.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
I have so many.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
I mean one Throw of the Cuckoo's Nest meant so
much to me as a as a kid. I used
to I watch The Graduate every day for a year
when I was thirteen, because I watched like sections of
it every day, and then just started over because it
was a comfort movie and I really related to that character.
And then I just saw blue velvet in a theater
with my two best friends, writer and his brother Dylan,
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who I've mentioned on this podcast and that first time
I ever mentioned them.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
But they they yeah, So we just we just go
to movies all the time.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
So we saw it at uh I think we saw
it at IFC in a huge theater, like it was
in the big room. And and that movie is really
one of one of the best movies ever and it's
very that experience is very special. It was like five
or six years ago, and that experience was very fun.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Nice. Nice. Yeah, that's very nice.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
And two thousand and one in space. Honestly, we did it.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
We also did screened it on our projector same best
friends and we did a whole screening on it.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
That was pretty fun.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I love you three. What a great gug.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
We're best friends.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
What's the film he most related to.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Well, you know, the supporting character and seven Samurai relate to,
you know, the way he gets angry. Me and my
brother went to see it, and he was like, he
kind of gets angry like you do, you know, he's
like kind of throwing things, like, you know, moving around
like that. I think the movie that I don't want
to relate to, but appeals to some part of myself
that I'm ashamed of is Taxi Driver, and I think
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Taxi Driver is one of my favorite movies. And I
think I wish more people were able to admit that
that that Travis Bickle there there. You know, there's a
part of us. There's a little bit of Travis Bickle
and all of us, especially if you're a lonely person
growing up in New York.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
I think you just have that feeling.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
You know, There's there's plenty of elements you don't relate to,
and the killing and the guns is but it's more
about his loneliness and his isolation. And yeah, I feel
that it's it's I wish more people were like, yeah,
I you know, there's a part of that that I
relate to and that alienation. So yeah, I'm ashamed to
admit that. I'm probably gonna regret saying that.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
No, listen, you said, not the killing and there.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yeah, none of it, none of the racism, none of
the you know, taking that there's so many cringe things.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Like do you do you do you relate to that
thing of looking around you and judging everything, and.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Well, I think when you're at the bottom of the bottom.
That's your only ways of surviving is doing that. If
you're not you know, if you're not allowed in, they're
gonna say, well, you know, fuck that place anyway. And
I think that's how he feels about the whole world.
So maybe it's just I have a great deal of
empathy for that character. It's not that I am like that,
but I have a great deal of empathy for that character.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Have you been lonely a lot?
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:22):
I think I think I travel a lot and work
a lot, and I think it's been great to be
on tour with my brother because it's not that way.
But I think, you know, I'm definitely lonely a lot.
I'll give you the safer answer because I'll probably email
you and say, hey, man, can you cut that Travis
Bickel part out? But I really relate to the ordinary
people character Conrad Jared for the same, you know, for
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for also his sense of isolation, and he's very energetic,
and I think he wants to beat grief, you know,
he really wants to beat it, as opposed to a
character like Casey Affleck in Manchester by the Sea who says,
you know, I can't beat it. I can't beat it
ordinary people. Is a lot about he's really trying. He's
really trying, and I just find that he is a beautiful,
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vulnerable character is also edgy. That.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Yeah, I really.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Connect connect with Connor y Jera since I was young,
since I was in like eighth grade.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
When I first saw it.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I love that film.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
I love it so much.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
I think that film doesn't get enough left because it
won Oscars. People turn on stuff that wins Oscars.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
It's interesting and won all the Oscars, and you know,
people don't really I don't feel that people talk about
it the same way they talk about you know, yeah,
Lawrence of Arabia or something. I believe that it's the
same kind of epic success.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah. What's the sexiest film you've ever seen? Alex Wolf?
Maybe Boogie Nights, that Solid Dancer.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Yeah, or Heather Graham and Bowfinger.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I had a big crush on It's a Head, It's
Head a gram areas Okay.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Heather Graham is she always plays the best character like that.
She's amazing. Yeah, And I grew up with a big, big,
big crush on her when I was a kid. I
remember if I nam Zorro, I was in love with
her of Kathain Zada Jones.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, those are those are some good ones.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
There's a subcategory to this question, traveling bonus worrying Why
I don't a film you found a rousing that you
weren't sure you should, Alex Wolf.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
I remember not a rousing. God is such a tough question.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
I mean, I found I remember ex Machina being kind
of in love with the robot and feeling bad about that,
being like, I probably shouldn't be in love with but
I think I was just in love with Lizia Arkandor's
amazing acting and performance and had a crush on her.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
But that I think that was like, I think what's
so clever about that film is that it's about how
they tricked this man and you as an audience member,
particularly me, and I assume you were watching it going, yeah, yeah,
she's a robot.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
She's so lovely, She's so lovely. I love it lovely.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
I want to save her.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Yeah. Yeah, and he's terrible, And asker Isaac's you know evil?
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Great?
Speaker 1 (35:57):
What is then, objectively the great film of all time?
Not your favorite necessarily?
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Yeah, objectively the best? Okay, I'll say so. Taxi driver
is my favorite movie. But I'd say that objectively, maybe
eight and a half Chinatown rival for top two, and
maybe seven Samurai. That might be like the three best
movies ever made. I think it would be hard to
argue with me about any of those three. Seven Samurai,
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Chinatown and eight and a half. I think it'd be tough.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
You got to pick one, and.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
They're all epic. I didn't pick the you know what,
I'm abandoning them all. Taxi Driver is the best movie
ever made. I'll say it, and God because also, you know, Persona.
I think Taxi Driver is just the only one that's
like that. I think it's just the one of a kind,
best movie ever that's got everything to say, you know
that I'm interested in.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I think Taxi Driver is also funny? Is it black comedy?
Oh yeah, Oh yeah, it's funny. So Duck is smout
the dumbest thing ever and he gives me the advice.
That is really funny. That got a big laugh in
the theater. Funny when he's buying guns and the guy
offers him drugs and he's so horrified.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
I don't do that. I don't do that.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Great, so good.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
What is the film you could or have watched the
most over and over again.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
Eight and a half.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Really eight and a half, I believe is the biggest.
That's the one you can just turn on little, you know,
clips of I think I could watch that forever. I
think that you get everything from that movie. That's the
one that I maybe watched the most. And also all
the President's Men. I've watched a lot, a lot, a lot,
and stand by me, I've watched those one a lot.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Okay, you may not want to do this, but perhaps
there's the worst ground. What's the worst film you've ever seen?
Speaker 3 (37:53):
I directed a short film called Writing Partners that had
the potential to be good and turned out to be
the worst film ever made by fucking anyone. So that
I saw, I didn't finish abandon it. I will say
that is the worst film ever made by anyone.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Okay, Okay, I'm going to believe you, but I don't,
but I respect it as an answer. Now, you're funny
and you've been in some humorous films. Why is the
film that made you laugh the most? Alex wild Oh,
that's so good. TV comes to mind. TV makes me
laugh really hard.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
That's not good to me here, Addix.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
You can take your TV and get rid of it.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
I don't even watch TV really, so we're perfect. Combo.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
I mean, super Bad m HM is a classic birdcage
love classic, but it's so much makes me laugh so
hard anyhow, m hmm. I think the ones that just
make me and my brother just die laughing. There was
a period where it's like getting Sir Marshall. Yes, you
know that period knocked out. Those movies are really funny.
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Those Jutel movies and Greg Mottola movies are really good.
I know I'm missing some really good ones, but right
now I can think of our really silly, stupid ones,
which I love. I mean, I really love dumb stoner comedies.
Throw out some of your favorite comedies and I will.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Echo, listen, this isn't about me, Alex. I would, as
I've said to guests before, I would never do this podcast.
It's insane to agree to come with it. I couldn't
pick one insane.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Can I say one that actually really made me laugh?
Bo's Afraid Ari's third movie made me laugh really hard
in the theater with my friends.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
We laughed so hard. That was really funny.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Fastly underrated film.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Yeah, insane that it's so underrated. It's such an obvious masterpiece.
It's so silly that it's just silly. So so that
made that movie.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Made me laugh.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Coen Brothers make me laugh. Burn after reading makes me
laugh a lot.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
The Man with Two Brains Steve Martin.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Yes, so so, so, so good. I mean both fingers.
One of the funniest comedies ever made. So the Jerk's great,
Give me, give me, give me a couple more. I'm
I'm bleeding you dry. I mean, Pineapple Express is really great.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah, Bride's Maids so good, so funny.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Hasn't been topped, hasn't been tupped?
Speaker 4 (40:29):
Train Wreck pretty fun. The scenes with the basketball players
still make me laugh.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Alex Wolf, you have been an absolute delight.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
How thank you man you two.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
However when you entered, you put yourself into a lottery
which was just for you for the Olympics. And I
guess they say in the Olympics and they pulled out
they will put everything in there sweeping they pulled out.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
What they say, what did they say? Hop skip and
jo did they say?
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Good?
Speaker 1 (41:00):
So you saying can I bring my mate that I've
been practicing dunking with and I said, yeah, you may
as well. At this point, we've really sort of disrespected
our own rules and ethos, so you may as well
bring your fucking friend as well. So you were about
to do the hop, skip and jump. You get your
friend in the way, so you run.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
Where do I meet them?
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Just start the Olympics people? Yeah, for the lottery for
the pick.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Yeah, just to start doing the Olympics. Where do I
meet them?
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Oh, they're going to contact you. You've already been put
into their lottery system.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
I don't like that. I'd like to contact them. Do
you have a number to give me?
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Yes? Five? Five, five, ok? Six, four one two three
four two call.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
That's not enough numbers, but put one at the front
of the international Okay, perfect, got it.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
And so your friend cratched his DAGs. You're going to
jump on him for part of your skip stage. So
you hit you, you run. Everyone's listen. By the way,
the commentators are over the moon that you're in this.
And there's been quite a bit of controversy from the
other athletes because they're sort of like, well, we didn't
get you know, we worked since childhood.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
I don't care. I don't care, okay, but.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
All I'm just saying there's a lot of eyes on
this because it's been quite controversial with it. You just
got it from a lottery pick and even a lot
of the Olympics like, it's mostly been what the press
is about is that Alex doing hop skipp and jump
when he doesn't have any.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
Good Well, we.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Certain formal training, formal training form of yes, you're right,
there's been just different kinds of you haven't.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
What the press and focused on is you haven't changed anything.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
I got it.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
I got to pay the bills somehow I've been waiting
to do that, be in the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
So I'm not judging you. I'm just saying I'm saying
that the press is that you haven't. You haven't changed
your lifestyle at AOL since you found out you're going
to be in the hop skipping jump correct correct?
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Right.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
So you turn up and you're like this and some
people listen, I'm sorry, some people are doing mostly the
other athletes, it doesn't seem to and you you you're
like you're going to.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
Yeah, of course obviously that's what I do.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
You're like, fuck you, I deserve to be with one
the lottery and.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Absolutely anyway, you get your friend, you go, okay, my
friend as well, he's gonna help me. And so you
put your friend. He's going to crouch down at the
skip section. So anyway, whistle goes a hush. This sends
you run, you hop, you skip. On the second half
of your skip, you jump on your friend's back. You jump,
you go so high, but having not really done any
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training at all, you have no idea about your core
balance and you actually throw yourself over. So you actually
do go really far and you will in fact break
the record. But at the same time you break the record,
you land on your head. Your head gets ripped off
your body, your body does an extra spin.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
I really like that.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
So you actually break the records.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Okay, that's awesome. So you do get gold, and there's
a respect on my name at the end.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Yes, but we have to weekend of barely start hold
your corpse up on the top padium to give you
the gold.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
But there's I'm on the top long as I'm on
the top.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Of my neck.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Anyway, I'm walking past with a coffin at the Olympics.
You know what I'm like, And I'm like, does anyone
seeing Alix seeing him. Yeah, the whole world's been watching.
And I'm like, oh, fuck.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
And what were you doing? You just you couldn't you
couldn't be fucked. You couldn't know.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
I was carrying this coffin around and it was like, oh,
and it was quite what surprised me. And I should
have thought about this. Very difficult to get free security
with a coffin. And I was like, it's not a weapon,
is it's a coffin? Yeah, but you shouldn't have They're
not allowing, you know, big bags, and I was like, well,
it's sort of I wouldn't call it a bag.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
It's a coffin. Anyway, Anyways, they called it a bag.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
Why were they calling a coffin a bag?
Speaker 1 (44:35):
That's what I was exactly my argument. They didn't want
big bags in the Olympic stadium. But I said, it's not.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
But again I don't understand why it's an argument. Coffin
is you know, simply not a bag.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
So they could have This is the conversation I went
on that you had. Yeah, I did get it through.
I did have to pull some strings, and I'll be
honest with you, I bribed them.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
They were a fan of you, and they were like,
they were like, just because you're so good into a lass,
so we'll let you in.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
But they were like rules of rules, and I said,
I gave you a tenor and they went anyway. So
I see your head in the sound, I'm like, fuck,
you know Jesus, they're trying to put this gold medal
on your course, but your neck, you don't have enough
of a neck for it, so they're sort of wrapping
it around your arm and holding down. Anyway, I go, guys,
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enough of this, help me get him in the coffin.
And we try and get in the coffin, but there's
so much there's so much mess, and your head is
like leaked and picked up a load of Anyway, I
get you in the coffin. To be honest, I've misjudged
the measurements is too small, so I'm like, can you
help me. Guys, we're getting the rakes from the sound
of chopping up, chopping out, chopping out. Try and get
your smallest pot liquify you get someone gets a blended
(45:44):
like put his head in the bend was anyway, we
pour it all in the coffin. The coffin's full there's
no room in this coffin. There's only enough room for
me to slip one DVD in the side for you
to take across to the other side. And on the
other side, it's movie night every night. What film are
you taking to show Heaven when it is your movie night,
mister Alex Wolf.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
Maybe the New Flash movie, just so I could take
it and they'd be like, eh, yeah, all right, wow,
this is the one you took and I get to
go dude, it's awesome.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
Wow, Okay, that's what I like, the New.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Flash Alex Wolf, tremendous guests. Do you have anything you
would like to plug to tell people to look out
for or listen to that thing?
Speaker 4 (46:24):
We've said a card too much, We've said far too much.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Alrighty okay, thank you for your time. This has been
a pleasure.
Speaker 4 (46:31):
That so fun so funny.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
I look forward to the Olympics. It was so funny.
Speaker 4 (46:35):
You're amazing. You're a genius, a genius interviewer. Amazing, You're amazing,
You're amazing. I'll see you soon later, Alligator.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
So that was episode three hundred and twenty two. Head
over to the Patriot at Patreon dot com. Forward lastpreat
coolsting next for secret chat video with Alex Wolf. Watch
Shrinking season two, watch season one. If you haven't watch
that What's That Verse? Then watch season two on Apple
TV and Chapple Podcast and give us a five star
rating and write about the film that means the most
to you and why it's a very nice thing to read.
My neighbor Marien always loves it and makes her cry.
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Thank you very much. I hope you're all well. Thank
you all for listening. Thank you so much to Alex
forgiving me his time. Thanks to Scruby's PIP and the
Destruction Pieces of Network. Thanks to Buddy Peace for producing it.
Thanks that iHeart Media and Will Ferrell's Big Money Players
Network posting it. Thanks out to Bridge And for the
graphics and Leads to Learning for the photography. Thank you
all for listening. Come and join me next week for
another incredible episode. But that's it for now. I hope
(47:28):
you're all well. Have a lovely week, and in the meantime,
please now more than ever, be excellent to each other.
Speaker 4 (48:00):
That ps A Crash Backs Bass Backs, that Tos
Look el, there's only films to be buried with. Hello,
and welcome to films to be buried with. My name
is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian and actor, a writer,
a director, a teacup, and I love films. As Dr
(00:22):
Zeus once said, fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living,
but a Lord of the Rings all nighter is too
much for my blood. Man well surprising when they're doctor.
Every week I invite a special guest over. I tell
them they've died. Then I get them to discuss their
life through the films that meant that most of them.
Previous guests include Barry Jenkins, Amber Ruffin, Sharon Stone, and
even Ked Slambles. But this week it is the brilliant musician,
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actor and star mister Alex Wolf. My stand up tour
of North America the second Best Night of your life.
I've only got two dates left. I'm with Bellingham and Seattle.
Come see me there. Shrinking Season two, Episode three is
out this week. Get caught up on all of them
over on AppleTV. Head over to the Patreon at patreon
dot com forward slash breat Goldstein, where you get about
twenty minutes extra chat with Alex, you get a secret.
(01:08):
You get the whole episode unca adfree and as a video.
Check it out over at patreon dot com forward slash
Brett Goldstein. It's good stuff. So Alex Wolf is a
musician and an actor and a movie star, and.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
We had a very lovely time.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I hadn't met him before we recorded this on Zoom
the other week.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
He was a fucking joy. He's brilliant.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I really really enjoyed spending time with him, and I
think that you are going to love this one. So
that is it for now. I hope you're all well,
and I very much hope you enjoy episode three hundred
and twenty two of Films to be Buried With. Hello,
(01:50):
and welcome to Films to be Buried With. It is
me Brett Goldstein, and I am joined today by a musician,
an actor, a writer, a director, juice, a hero, a legend,
a hereditaria, a pigre, a cat and the moona a
naked brother, a clothes brother, a hero and legend and
(02:12):
all round superstar. He's sometimes in a quiet place and
sometimes he talks. Here he is to talk. Please, welcome
to the show. It's the brilliant, It's Alex Wolf.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Wow, I can never live up to that. That intro
was far too.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Good for me.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Come on, get out of here.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I'm so happy to be here. Man. I'm such a
big fan of yours.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Shut up. I'm a massive fan of yours.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
You're amazing.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
You're amazing. Can we talk about I want to talk
about someone. You've been in at least three all time classics?
At least can we say that? Thank you for saying that.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Your Manji, I stand by.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I think the best big fun Hollywood film made in
ages when not only is it really really fun and
everyone's great, the plot makes sense is so it's a
unique thing.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Towards Yeah, I followed everything. Yeah, totally, both of them.
I really I really love the second one too, with
Danny de Vita.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, both exit.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Yeah, I did a great job. Well, that's Jake Kasdan.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
He's just he's such a great storyteller. He really knows
how to make a movie that is really fun and
really funny and also works as a movie. You know,
it doesn't have a bunch of crazy magic logic.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
It's kind of just.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Logic, Like, well, if I go in the game and
you know, coming up with Dwayne and rock Johnson running
his hands and missing his hair, and you know that's
like really just basic human stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
It's really good and it sounds good and mistakes three
deaths and you're dead.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
It's a great idea, it's really it's great.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
He did a great job. He's a great guy.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
And a quiet place. Day one phenomenon.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, Michael was someone that I met before he'd ever
directed a movie, and I loved him and knew he
was a genius kind of from our first meeting. The
only thing I thought was I was thinking, well, maybe
he's too nice to be a genius, because he's so
warm and lovely. And it turns out, you know, you
can be really kind and really easy to work but
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then also be a genius.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
They do exist.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Yeah, it it's a few of them.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
And then oh, I said three. I mean four, because
you've also got Pig, which I think.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Is also Michael.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, fucking Amasion, tell me about Pig. I love that
film so much.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, that's when I met Michael Is for that movie.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
And you know, a lot of movies you have to
fight for or hard. You know, that's part of the
process of being an actors.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
It's like I feel like most ninety percent of my
job is trying to say, yes, I can do that,
I could do that, I could make that work. Yeah,
just give me a chance and I'll you know. And
this was a very very rare circumstance where he saw
me an hereditary and really connected with my character in
that and I thought I was really right for this film,
(05:02):
and it luckily I didn't have to jump through too
many hoops to get the role. It was one of
the gifts, one of the only just gifts, kind of
hand wrapped, given to me in my life, and it's
something I'm forever grateful for. And to work with my
number one favorite actor of all time, Nicholas Cage. And
I feel like some people say, like, oh, it was
(05:23):
my favorite actor, but Nick was someone that I was
watching constantly to give me confidence and to get inspired.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
So it was really beyond serendipitous.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
It was like a gift from the universe to be
able to make that movie with him, and he's become,
you know, one of the most important people in my life.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
I don't know what I'd do without him.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I love to hear that. So he's not a diad.
I love that.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Oh, he's the sweetest. He's one of the sweetest people
I've ever met. He's just warm and giving and real
and funny and brilliant.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Love to hear that. That makes me very happy. And
then can we talk about her red now? Of course
I haven't talked about this for a long time on
this podcast, but I talked about a lot when it
came out.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I like horror films, love horror films.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I feel like horror films are like doing drugs right
sometimes sometimes drugs are really fun. When I saw Hereditary,
it was like I'd done too many drugs.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Like it really fucked me.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
It fucked me up so badly that I think I
stopped watching horror for a little bit because I didn't
sleep for a week after Hereditary.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
It really really like fucks me up.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
And part of when I think of it, I think
it's amazing, Like it's an amazing piece of work. And
part of it, I think is to do with you,
is to do with when, for example, the thing happens
in the car, it's us staying on you. It feels
like a minute of just your face, just the shock
of it. And I think in most horror films where
it's fun, where that bit is fun, is like that
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would happen and we jump and it would be shocking,
and then we move on, but we sort of stay
on the emotional kind of trauma of it and the
aftermath of it, and then you're going home and getting
into bed and it's like it's so upsetting, like emotionally,
I don't know the word.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I found it. It really fucked me up.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
And everything that you go to in that film is
so painful and real and like I found it quite
quite sad, and I wondered what it is like to
film that and whether the actual filming of Preditory was
fun and you all laughed a lot, or whether it
was a heavy like because it's also you know, it's
(07:34):
not I don't know, it's not a true story about
a terrible thing. Like there's no reason you don't have
to have a reverence on set, you know what I mean.
But at the same time, it's such a powerful film.
I wondered what it is like day to day on
that film.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Well, thank you for saying all that.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I mean, you know, it's it's strange because when you're
in a movie that's such a aggressive act of alright, horror,
you wouldn't normally think that you get pride from someone
telling you that they were so upset by it. But
I do think that something is really meaningful in watching
(08:11):
a movie that gets at something truly horrific and evil
and human about life. And I think that the reason
we watch horror movies.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
I think it.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Ari always talked about it, that things have gotten lost
a bit and that horror has become a bit of.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
A comfort food.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
People like it as a formula, But that's not really
why horror movies began, in my opinion, or why horror
movies are so affecting. I believe that horror movies are
supposed to tackle some terrible things about life, so you
can kind of experience in them, experience them during the moment,
and there's some emotional catharsis to it. And I think
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that it's not just that Ari found emotional catharsis or
I found emotional cathartists doing it, that people find catharsis
in watching it, especially people who have had paint in
their families or you know, just have a great degree
of empathy about terrible things in the world. And I
think it's about a family feeling cursed and That's why
I think the movie resonates in a deeper way than
(09:16):
a movie that just works on a supernatural level, which
I think Hereditary does. I think it's also scary ghost story,
but I think it also works on an emotional metaphorical
level of the worst time.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
In a family's life.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
You know, it might as well be you know, your
little sister's you know, head might as well come off
because of how horrible it feels in your family at
that time. So I think making it we because it
digs up things that are very emotionally true to us personally.
It was heavy, you know as a heavy environment, but
it was also cathartic and at times fun because I
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think I had never felt so connected to a director
at that point. I think I'd never seen a director
who was so set on a vision but also wanted
to include you in that vision.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
I've never seen that. I just had never seen that.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I'd worked with a bunch of great directors, but the
way Ari works is I think, really think he's, you know,
one of the greats, and he he really included me
in that process and sort of educated me about what
it takes to to make a movie at the level
that he wanted to make the movie at so I
think in that way, it was really fun.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
It was like we were kind of both bonding, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
It was like going to war or something, obviously not
as severe as war.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
I'm like already nervous about the headline. It's like going
to war.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
It's not it's a movie. It's it's it's fun. It
is cushy. But I just mean in that you form
a community of people who have gone through this experience
that at times is very unpleasant, but you all get
closer through it, and I think Ari and I became
really bonded for life through that experience.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Fucking great, great, Phil, Thank you. Man.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I watched a few interviews with you before this, and
it's clear that you're not a dickhead.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
But you you start doing that, man, you started very young.
How come you're not a dickhead?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I've been told that I am a dickhead a time.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Okay, sorry, yeah, you got that totally wrong.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Uh well, it's I don't think it's that hard to
not be like a monster. I mean, it's such a
it's such an amazing job. I mean, how are you
not a dickhead? I feel like, you know, a lot
of people get nominated for awards and stuff and then
immediately be kind of get wrapped up. And I think,
if there's anything I mean, some people might say that
I am or whatever, but I think, if there's anything
(11:37):
that makes me more well adjusted than certain people have
been doing this a long time, it's that I've seen
being really famous from a young age, and then I
saw myself be not famous at all, and nobody wanted
to touch me with a ten foot pole in the industry.
And then I saw success again, and then you lose
it again, and and I think I have just seen
that success is so fragile and has nothing to do
(12:01):
with your happiness. So I think I just try and
also have a life and value my art above everything.
And I think that when people get really upset, I
think when their child starts and they become really famous
and then they're not wanted, it's taken away from them.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I think they then try to find ways to kind
of fill that void.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
And it's you know, it's not immediately gratifying to throw
yourself into an art form necessarily, you know, you either
want to turn to drugs or whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
I think after I was on Nickelodion. Then I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I think there is an anxiety and a vulnerability there
that was overwhelming, and then I think you just kind
of ride through it and you realize that life is
long and things come and go and it all doesn't
really matter that much.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
But to me, the art does. So you know, I
don't know. That's no wisdom. It's just something that I've
learned from myself.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
It's pretty good. It's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
And I play a lot of basketball.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Okay, Alex, I feel terrible. I've forgotten to tell you something.
I should have said it. I should have said it sooner, actually,
because I feel, on the other hand, I sort of
feel like you've already figured everything out, so maybe this
is okay. I'll just I'll just I'll just tell you
and then we can we can move on. Tell me
(13:15):
you've died, you're dead?
Speaker 4 (13:17):
When did I die?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
You?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Tell me? How old would you like to be when
you die?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I only died in quiet place. That's the only time
I've ever died in a movie.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
But it was real because you're not dead. You're dead?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Why am I dead?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
You tell me? I have you.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Have you? You're dead, You're dead. You died, we're going
to be talking about you.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Why did I die?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Well, it's up to you how you died. You get
to choose how you died.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Tell me how did I die?
Speaker 1 (13:49):
You were playing basketball, okay, to relax because you know,
because life.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Is just so stressful, and then and then I died.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Stressful, but you were also like life is long. And
you play bakeble it brings you sort of peace, feels
connected with the community of people you play with. And
you've been working on dunkin. You've been working really hard
on it. And you have a friend. You've been working
on this move where you sort of jump, he crouches,
you jump on his back and you go and you
do a proper yeah dunk. And you've been working this
for a while and everyone's everyone's there with lots of
(14:18):
people there, and you're waiting me up, and you're like,
let's try it.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Let's try it, and you run.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, you jump off his back and your hand slips
and your head gets caught on the ring.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
I would like it to be head trauma. I would
like that to be so I think that's good. That's
the way that I die.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Well, Actually, your head got caught in the ring and
as you snapped back, it pulled your head off and
your head did roll.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
In which I would be so perfect.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I mean, if that happened, I feel like the memes
would come like.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
That day, Yeah about hereditary Unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, god fuck, I don't even thought about that A
way to go.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
My best friend, my best friend, Rider was making jokes
about it, like two weeks ago. He's like, man, I
really hope there's no tragy you in your head because
people would be making memes like the next day.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I was like, it would maybe undermine your legacy a bit,
you know what I mean? I like it wouldn't I
feel like that would sort of be the thing people
talk about for a while. Yeah, and I'd be writing
articles like but what about your Mendi? And they go, yeah,
but he didn't die by being in a computer game.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
He did.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
His head got ripped off on a bosm.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Yeah that's truth. That's the truth. Okay, So I'm dead.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Do you worry about death?
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Not as much as I worry about other things.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
It's like, it's like probably fifth or sixth on my list,
maybe seventh.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
And ask what's number one? Or is that private? Private business?
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Number one is interviews? Saying the right thing.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Number two is how am I going to make it
to the Olympics before I'm thirty?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Doing whatever?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
No, no, not for basketball, just for we're whatever, you know,
ski whatever I'd like to be in the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
I'm Brandon okay and myself in the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Number three, playing all the right notes on when I'm
on stage playing music.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Number four, people being mad at me. I don't like
people being mad at me.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Number five again, it's if I'm going to get to
the Olympics like in time. Number six again it's crazy,
but I'm really worried about this Olympic situation and if
it's going to be like I'm worried that I'm not
going to try I didn't try hard enough to get
myself to the Olympics. That's number six. And then number
seven is am I going to die? And then number
(16:24):
eight is something about eating something I'm allergic to.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
That's like number eight.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I feel like the Olympics thing is obviously you know,
a big concerns turned up four times on your list. Yeah,
I feel it's all possible. I just feel like you
need to focus on what you need to focus on.
What the sport rude.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Yeah, why don't I have to make a sport?
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Well, you know, I just think you've got to your
thirty right, I feel like you might have to focus
on the one thing you think you have a shot at.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
No, I see, I want to do the mo I
don't have to do them all.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
I just want to throw myself out there and any
sport can choose me to do something.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Like a lottery, like a lottery system for you.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, like a lottery. Yeah, like a like a like
a lottery. And I would like to die at the Olympics. Oh,
I would like to die at the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Or would you die with your head in a basketball
hoop at the Olympics?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
However, however you want me to die at the Olympics?
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Boom there?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
What about the hop? Skipping? A jump?
Speaker 4 (17:26):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
It's one of the sports of the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
It's called a jump.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
It might be called.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Something else, but you essentially hopping, then you skipping, then
you jump. It's like a long jump.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Good one, Yeah, sign me up, sign me up.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
But you trip and you land on your head and
your head comes off.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
We've already established if that works totally fine for me.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
What do you think happens when you die? As in
is there after life?
Speaker 4 (17:47):
I think you get sent to a TGI Fridays?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Do you? I do? God, they never tell us that
in church.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Yeah, but they do.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
They do say it on various websites that you go
to Tegritas.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Yeah, it's fine. TJ Fridays is fine.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
And you're a customer, you're working there, or you're you're
just taking out.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Just hanging out. Yeah, if you've been really bad in
your life, you get sent to the back. And if
you if you're terrible, like a murderer, then you're a waiter.
A TGI frid is not there's anything wrong with that.
It's just what happens. I didn't make the rules.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Do you get flair on your outfit like TJ flair?
Of course?
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Okay, you don't get to take it home.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
But well, you're in I assume you're sticking around in TJ.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Yeah, there's a bunk. There's a bunk, right right, there's.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
A Well I got news for you.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
There is actually a heaven, okay, and it's filled with
your favorite thing.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
What's your favorite thing?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Movies?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Well, fucking hell, you're gonna love it here. Because there's
fucking they love movies here.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
They love it.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
This movie is thank God, Thank God.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
And they're really big fans of you, and they want
to talk to you about your life, but they want
to talk to you about your life through film. The
first thing they ask you, what is the first film
you remember seeing?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Alex wild Hard Days Night, the Beatles movie. That was
the first movie I ever saw. Yeah, I think that
was the first movie. And then I remember being brought
to see a Neil Young documentary when I was a
little kid, and then Bowfinger It's one of my favorites
I saw at a young age.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
And then Space Jam. I remember that being the selection run.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Is this because your family are a musicians because you
have a naked brother and a musician father.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Maybe, But you know, my parents didn't watch those movies religiously.
I mean, they were big Beatles fans, but I think
we really all saw it together when I was when
I was a kid and me and my brother would
watch them over and over again. We also watch a
bunch of you know, basketball footage, like footage of the
Lakers and Celtics playing each other, and then you know
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all the Michael Jordan highlights and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
That was early only.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
What film made you cry the most? Do you like crying?
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Love?
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Crying in movies ordinary people? When I first saw it
made me cry really hard, really really affected me. You know,
the movie Cries and Whispers by Bergmann. There's a scene
between the two sisters where they're at the dinner table
and you can tell that they really want to make up,
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but instead they're just being so nasty to each other
because I think there is so much emotion there.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
It's one of my favorite scenes ever.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
And right after they finally make up after saying the
most just vile things to each other, And when they
make up, right after, I started crying of relief because
there's so much stress when I think anything to do
with families and conflict and kind of persevering that always
moves me. And then I remember Bamby making me cry
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so hard that when I was a kid that I
still haven't seen it since then.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah, why would yousrable? Yeah? Horrible.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
It's a really really tough movie.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
That Cries and Whispers scene. Did it make you think
of your brother? Is that how things are with your brother?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
I wonder?
Speaker 3 (20:59):
No, it's it's not like that we're great to each other,
but it probably is something to do with, you know,
if we had talked, you know, if we did talk
to each other that way, And it's my empathy for
sometimes when people are at their nastiest, they're like one
stop away from breaking down and sobbing, and you know,
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and you're like kind of a second away from connecting
with someone. So I think that that movie is all
about people being. All of Bergmann's movies, I think it's
why he's my favorite director, at least top three, is
because you know, some people find his movies to be impenetrable,
like they're they're a bit opaque, or they're a bit
self serious, like I know people's criticisms, but I have
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never felt that way because I always felt when people
are being nasty to each other or saying these things
to each other, there's a lot of vulnerability being hidden
in those moments. And I've always felt like when I
saw movies, films that didn't ever speak to me, is
when people are saying things that are acidic to each
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other to try and you know, show how terrible human
beings are. I always felt that's one of the things
I love about Hereditary is I feel that they're actually
that family wants to fix things. That's the horror of
it is that she's trying to save him, you know,
from this fate and she you know, they have all
this conflict, but they're all trying.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
They really are trying.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
And I think that's what I love about Bergmann is
that I feel that in those scenes, especially the scenes
with the family, like an Autumn Sonata, when the when
the daughter and the mother are fighting. Of course you
understand that live Ooman's perspective of her mother being cruel
and kind of a narcissist and so such a far
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superior piano player to her, and all these reasons that
Live Woman would be resentful of her. But there's this
interesting moment at the end where after you've been rooting
against the mother, you see her reaching out of hand emotionally,
and live Oleman kind of rejects it. So heartbreaking because
people are all, I think, trying their best. And that's
my long winded way of saying, you know, I think
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Prize and Whispers is a great example of people.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Who really do want to.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Work things out, but there's just so much anger and
hatred and resentment that blocks them from doing that, and
I just love movies to deal with that.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Very wise man, just talking a lot.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
I'm sorry, no, I really it's really.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
I love talking about other people's movies far more than
I love.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Talking about Yeah, I think that's very wise about people
at the Nasties says seconds away from crying. I think
that's true. That's really interesting. Look, you've done one of
the great horrors. What's the film that scared you the most?
Would be Hereditary one of them?
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Wow, thank you.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I would say that movie scared me the most too,
because it was, you know, scarring. But I saw What
Lies Beneath when I was a kid, and that really
really scared me. And then I rewatched it and it
didn't scare me even my But I find don't look
now to be something is rotten in that movie. Something
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is really wrong that Repulsion Roman Polanski. Something is very
wrong with that movie. There's something rotting about that movie.
It's just like it makes you feel ill. Those movies
really horrified me. Kids by Larry Clark really horrified me,
saying that I found out.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
To be one of the great horror movies of all time.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
And Rosemary's Baby well actually had an amazing experience where
I just saw Rosemary's Baby in a theater and it
started to freak me out so much that I left,
even though I've seen it a billion times. Wow, really
was like overwhelmed by it emotionally, and I was like,
I can't and I was thinking, that's maybe the greatest
movie ever made. It opened up such a well of
emotion to me. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I got to ask you about Dodley now, because that
is what I think is the greatest film of all time.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I've never thought of it as rotten.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
It depends on what you mean by as in, I
think Texas Chainsaw Massacre feels rotten. Likely there's something wrong
with the film stock yeah, yeah, yeah, feel absolutely sort
of dangerous.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Like I love Texas chains I'm masker, but but Texas
Chainsaw Masker did not is not in my bloodstream.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
It's so fun to watch and really.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Scared me watching on my projector with my two best
friends and we watch every horror movie together.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
It did not.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Don't look now feels like, you know, the only musical
way is like a like a C in a G
sharp like a tri tone, like something is.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
They don't work together, like something.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Is something off off.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
About that entire movie, Like even when he's in Venicon
moving around and when he's hanging on the construction site
and it just lingers on him, almost falling. It's just
like it made me ill. That movie makes me physically ill.
Same with repulsion.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Interesting.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Interesting, Why do you think it's the scariest of you ever?
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Well done it? Now? I don't know that. I think
it's the scariest. I love it.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I think it's like the greatest I think because of
how it does time, And I think it's really scary
in the end, really scares me. It's creepy and the
sisters are really creepy. Oh yeah, But I think it's
also lovely, don't look know, I love their marriage and
I love them. I think they're the best screen couple ever.
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Like I just so good by them as a married couple,
and they're so lovely. So I don't think it's like
in the way I say, like Texta Chains and Mesica
feels wrong. There's something very wrong with it.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Yeah, something very ugly about that movie.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I think it's beautiful as well as scary and creepy
and fucked up.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
But it's also Yeah, and the and the cinematography is
so lyrical, and everything about the movie is kind of intoxicating.
But that's to me, what's even more twisted about it?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Interesting, what is the film that you love? People don't
like it. It's not a critic favorite, but you love
it unconditionally.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
It's funny. I was gonna say Kids.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I know I brought up Kids before, but I want
to talk about Kids, and I want to talk about
Space Jam because and I want to talk about Help,
the Beatles movie. I want to talk about those three movies.
I just just came up with them now, honestly. But
Kids is a movie that I know a lot of
people loved, but you know, it has something like a
forty and rotten tomatoes or something, and you know, I
think people saw it as exploitation and maybe it was
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off camera. And I think all the criticism of the
movie and the you know, lack of professionalism on set
and all of that is totally valid, of course, But
if we're talking about it just as a piece of work,
I don't find that that movie is you know, over
the top or sensationalism at all. I actually find it
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to be one of the more honest movies about being
a kid in New York, and I think that, yeah,
everyone makes decisions that are pretty terrible in it. You know,
in the end of the movie is the worst case scenario.
But to me, it just feels like a worst case
scenario movie. It doesn't feel like science fiction. I think
that a lot of people wanted to push that movie
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away because it shook them up in such a radical way.
I think people just weren't able to stand by that
just vulgar kind of movie.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
I just don't think people could stomach it.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
And I'm here to say that I think, you know,
it's really one of the more special movies that's ever
been made. And it still holds up, and it still resonates,
and even though it's timely, it's also timeless, and it's incredible.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
I think it's an incredible movie that.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I know a lot of people love it, But a
lot of people still will fight me on that movie,
and I think it's crazy. Space Jam is objectively a
great movie, and I don't know what people's problem with
the original Space Jam. It's objectively a great movie. There
is no my opinion doesn't matter in this case. That
movie is objectively great.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Same with Help. The Beatles movie.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Help is a zany, strange movie with spotty acting. They
were stoned the entire time they were making it. It
is a total trip of a movie, and it is silly,
and the plot makes no sense, and it's about Ringo's
ring that they can't get it off. I mean, it
is the craziest, it's offensive, it has there's a lot
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of ingredients of a bad movie. But because it's the
Beatles and they have the best music ever, and it's
so gigly and so unabashedly silly, that's a movie that
I defend, even though people don't take it seriously as
a movie.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Fantastic answers Alex Wolf. What is on the other end
of the scale a film that you loved, but you've
watched it recently and you've thought, oh, I do not
feel the same way about this anymore.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Well, I think there's so much film criticism out there
that I'm always reticent to criticize movies.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
I'm like, I agree with you, and it doesn't have
to be like because it's a bad film. It might
actually just be because your position in the world is change.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I mean, breakfast to Tiffany's is pretty offensive. I'll see
been watching that, Retiani's Wowsers, that movie and that and
Taming of the Shrew. Elizabeth Taylor does her best with it.
I think those two movies they're tough. They don't totally
stand the test of time, and you don't really have
a defense because if you watch Seven Samurai, or you
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watch movies from you know, long before that, they hold
up as if it's a modern masterpiece, so there isn't
really a defense.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Repositivities is pretty brutal.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
I think that is a totally legit.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
I think it's legit. I think it's pretty ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
What is the film that means the most to you?
Not necessarily the film itself is good, but the experience
you had seeing it will always make it important to you.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
I have so many.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
I mean one Throw of the Cuckoo's Nest meant so
much to me as a as a kid. I used
to I watch The Graduate every day for a year
when I was thirteen, because I watched like sections of
it every day, and then just started over because it
was a comfort movie and I really related to that character.
And then I just saw blue velvet in a theater
with my two best friends, writer and his brother Dylan,
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who I've mentioned on this podcast and that first time
I ever mentioned them.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
But they they yeah, So we just we just go
to movies all the time.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
So we saw it at uh I think we saw
it at IFC in a huge theater, like it was
in the big room. And and that movie is really
one of one of the best movies ever and it's
very that experience is very special. It was like five
or six years ago, and that experience was very fun.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Nice. Nice. Yeah, that's very nice.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
And two thousand and one in space. Honestly, we did it.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
We also did screened it on our projector same best
friends and we did a whole screening on it.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
That was pretty fun.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I love you three. What a great gug.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
We're best friends.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
What's the film he most related to.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Well, you know, the supporting character and seven Samurai relate to,
you know, the way he gets angry. Me and my
brother went to see it, and he was like, he
kind of gets angry like you do, you know, he's
like kind of throwing things, like, you know, moving around
like that. I think the movie that I don't want
to relate to, but appeals to some part of myself
that I'm ashamed of is Taxi Driver, and I think
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Taxi Driver is one of my favorite movies. And I
think I wish more people were able to admit that
that that Travis Bickle there there. You know, there's a
part of us. There's a little bit of Travis Bickle
and all of us, especially if you're a lonely person
growing up in New York.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
I think you just have that feeling.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
You know, There's there's plenty of elements you don't relate to,
and the killing and the guns is but it's more
about his loneliness and his isolation. And yeah, I feel
that it's it's I wish more people were like, yeah,
I you know, there's a part of that that I
relate to and that alienation. So yeah, I'm ashamed to
admit that. I'm probably gonna regret saying that.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
No, listen, you said, not the killing and there.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yeah, none of it, none of the racism, none of
the you know, taking that there's so many cringe things.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Like do you do you do you relate to that
thing of looking around you and judging everything, and.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Well, I think when you're at the bottom of the bottom.
That's your only ways of surviving is doing that. If
you're not you know, if you're not allowed in, they're
gonna say, well, you know, fuck that place anyway. And
I think that's how he feels about the whole world.
So maybe it's just I have a great deal of
empathy for that character. It's not that I am like that,
but I have a great deal of empathy for that character.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Have you been lonely a lot?
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:22):
I think I think I travel a lot and work
a lot, and I think it's been great to be
on tour with my brother because it's not that way.
But I think, you know, I'm definitely lonely a lot.
I'll give you the safer answer because I'll probably email
you and say, hey, man, can you cut that Travis
Bickel part out? But I really relate to the ordinary
people character Conrad Jared for the same, you know, for
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for also his sense of isolation, and he's very energetic,
and I think he wants to beat grief, you know,
he really wants to beat it, as opposed to a
character like Casey Affleck in Manchester by the Sea who says,
you know, I can't beat it. I can't beat it
ordinary people. Is a lot about he's really trying. He's
really trying, and I just find that he is a beautiful,
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vulnerable character is also edgy. That.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Yeah, I really.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Connect connect with Connor y Jera since I was young,
since I was in like eighth grade.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
When I first saw it.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I love that film.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
I love it so much.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
I think that film doesn't get enough left because it
won Oscars. People turn on stuff that wins Oscars.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
It's interesting and won all the Oscars, and you know,
people don't really I don't feel that people talk about
it the same way they talk about you know, yeah,
Lawrence of Arabia or something. I believe that it's the
same kind of epic success.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah. What's the sexiest film you've ever seen? Alex Wolf?
Maybe Boogie Nights, that Solid Dancer.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Yeah, or Heather Graham and Bowfinger.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I had a big crush on It's a Head, It's
Head a gram areas Okay.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Heather Graham is she always plays the best character like that.
She's amazing. Yeah, And I grew up with a big, big,
big crush on her when I was a kid. I
remember if I nam Zorro, I was in love with
her of Kathain Zada Jones.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, those are those are some good ones.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
There's a subcategory to this question, traveling bonus worrying Why
I don't a film you found a rousing that you
weren't sure you should, Alex Wolf.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
I remember not a rousing. God is such a tough question.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
I mean, I found I remember ex Machina being kind
of in love with the robot and feeling bad about that,
being like, I probably shouldn't be in love with but
I think I was just in love with Lizia Arkandor's
amazing acting and performance and had a crush on her.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
But that I think that was like, I think what's
so clever about that film is that it's about how
they tricked this man and you as an audience member,
particularly me, and I assume you were watching it going, yeah, yeah,
she's a robot.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
She's so lovely, She's so lovely. I love it lovely.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
I want to save her.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Yeah. Yeah, and he's terrible, And asker Isaac's you know evil?
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Great?
Speaker 1 (35:57):
What is then, objectively the great film of all time?
Not your favorite necessarily?
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Yeah, objectively the best? Okay, I'll say so. Taxi driver
is my favorite movie. But I'd say that objectively, maybe
eight and a half Chinatown rival for top two, and
maybe seven Samurai. That might be like the three best
movies ever made. I think it would be hard to
argue with me about any of those three. Seven Samurai,
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Chinatown and eight and a half. I think it'd be tough.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
You got to pick one, and.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
They're all epic. I didn't pick the you know what,
I'm abandoning them all. Taxi Driver is the best movie
ever made. I'll say it, and God because also, you know, Persona.
I think Taxi Driver is just the only one that's
like that. I think it's just the one of a kind,
best movie ever that's got everything to say, you know
that I'm interested in.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I think Taxi Driver is also funny? Is it black comedy?
Oh yeah, Oh yeah, it's funny. So Duck is smout
the dumbest thing ever and he gives me the advice.
That is really funny. That got a big laugh in
the theater. Funny when he's buying guns and the guy
offers him drugs and he's so horrified.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
I don't do that. I don't do that.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Great, so good.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
What is the film you could or have watched the
most over and over again.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
Eight and a half.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Really eight and a half, I believe is the biggest.
That's the one you can just turn on little, you know,
clips of I think I could watch that forever. I
think that you get everything from that movie. That's the
one that I maybe watched the most. And also all
the President's Men. I've watched a lot, a lot, a lot,
and stand by me, I've watched those one a lot.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Okay, you may not want to do this, but perhaps
there's the worst ground. What's the worst film you've ever seen?
Speaker 3 (37:53):
I directed a short film called Writing Partners that had
the potential to be good and turned out to be
the worst film ever made by fucking anyone. So that
I saw, I didn't finish abandon it. I will say
that is the worst film ever made by anyone.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Okay, Okay, I'm going to believe you, but I don't,
but I respect it as an answer. Now, you're funny
and you've been in some humorous films. Why is the
film that made you laugh the most? Alex wild Oh,
that's so good. TV comes to mind. TV makes me
laugh really hard.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
That's not good to me here, Addix.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
You can take your TV and get rid of it.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
I don't even watch TV really, so we're perfect. Combo.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
I mean, super Bad m HM is a classic birdcage
love classic, but it's so much makes me laugh so
hard anyhow, m hmm. I think the ones that just
make me and my brother just die laughing. There was
a period where it's like getting Sir Marshall. Yes, you
know that period knocked out. Those movies are really funny.
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Those Jutel movies and Greg Mottola movies are really good.
I know I'm missing some really good ones, but right
now I can think of our really silly, stupid ones,
which I love. I mean, I really love dumb stoner comedies.
Throw out some of your favorite comedies and I will.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Echo, listen, this isn't about me, Alex. I would, as
I've said to guests before, I would never do this podcast.
It's insane to agree to come with it. I couldn't
pick one insane.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Can I say one that actually really made me laugh?
Bo's Afraid Ari's third movie made me laugh really hard
in the theater with my friends.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
We laughed so hard. That was really funny.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Fastly underrated film.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Yeah, insane that it's so underrated. It's such an obvious masterpiece.
It's so silly that it's just silly. So so that
made that movie.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Made me laugh.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Coen Brothers make me laugh. Burn after reading makes me
laugh a lot.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
The Man with Two Brains Steve Martin.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Yes, so so, so, so good. I mean both fingers.
One of the funniest comedies ever made. So the Jerk's great,
Give me, give me, give me a couple more. I'm
I'm bleeding you dry. I mean, Pineapple Express is really great.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah, Bride's Maids so good, so funny.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Hasn't been topped, hasn't been tupped?
Speaker 4 (40:29):
Train Wreck pretty fun. The scenes with the basketball players
still make me laugh.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Alex Wolf, you have been an absolute delight.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
How thank you man you two.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
However when you entered, you put yourself into a lottery
which was just for you for the Olympics. And I
guess they say in the Olympics and they pulled out
they will put everything in there sweeping they pulled out.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
What they say, what did they say? Hop skip and
jo did they say?
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Good?
Speaker 1 (41:00):
So you saying can I bring my mate that I've
been practicing dunking with and I said, yeah, you may
as well. At this point, we've really sort of disrespected
our own rules and ethos, so you may as well
bring your fucking friend as well. So you were about
to do the hop, skip and jump. You get your
friend in the way, so you run.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
Where do I meet them?
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Just start the Olympics people? Yeah, for the lottery for
the pick.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Yeah, just to start doing the Olympics. Where do I
meet them?
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Oh, they're going to contact you. You've already been put
into their lottery system.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
I don't like that. I'd like to contact them. Do
you have a number to give me?
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Yes? Five? Five, five, ok? Six, four one two three
four two call.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
That's not enough numbers, but put one at the front
of the international Okay, perfect, got it.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
And so your friend cratched his DAGs. You're going to
jump on him for part of your skip stage. So
you hit you, you run. Everyone's listen. By the way,
the commentators are over the moon that you're in this.
And there's been quite a bit of controversy from the
other athletes because they're sort of like, well, we didn't
get you know, we worked since childhood.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
I don't care. I don't care, okay, but.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
All I'm just saying there's a lot of eyes on
this because it's been quite controversial with it. You just
got it from a lottery pick and even a lot
of the Olympics like, it's mostly been what the press
is about is that Alex doing hop skipp and jump
when he doesn't have any.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
Good Well, we.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Certain formal training, formal training form of yes, you're right,
there's been just different kinds of you haven't.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
What the press and focused on is you haven't changed anything.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
I got it.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
I got to pay the bills somehow I've been waiting
to do that, be in the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
So I'm not judging you. I'm just saying I'm saying
that the press is that you haven't. You haven't changed
your lifestyle at AOL since you found out you're going
to be in the hop skipping jump correct correct?
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Right.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
So you turn up and you're like this and some
people listen, I'm sorry, some people are doing mostly the
other athletes, it doesn't seem to and you you you're
like you're going to.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
Yeah, of course obviously that's what I do.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
You're like, fuck you, I deserve to be with one
the lottery and.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Absolutely anyway, you get your friend, you go, okay, my
friend as well, he's gonna help me. And so you
put your friend. He's going to crouch down at the
skip section. So anyway, whistle goes a hush. This sends
you run, you hop, you skip. On the second half
of your skip, you jump on your friend's back. You jump,
you go so high, but having not really done any
(43:27):
training at all, you have no idea about your core
balance and you actually throw yourself over. So you actually
do go really far and you will in fact break
the record. But at the same time you break the record,
you land on your head. Your head gets ripped off
your body, your body does an extra spin.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
I really like that.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
So you actually break the records.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Okay, that's awesome. So you do get gold, and there's
a respect on my name at the end.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Yes, but we have to weekend of barely start hold
your corpse up on the top padium to give you
the gold.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
But there's I'm on the top long as I'm on
the top.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Of my neck.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Anyway, I'm walking past with a coffin at the Olympics.
You know what I'm like, And I'm like, does anyone
seeing Alix seeing him. Yeah, the whole world's been watching.
And I'm like, oh, fuck.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
And what were you doing? You just you couldn't you
couldn't be fucked. You couldn't know.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
I was carrying this coffin around and it was like, oh,
and it was quite what surprised me. And I should
have thought about this. Very difficult to get free security
with a coffin. And I was like, it's not a weapon,
is it's a coffin? Yeah, but you shouldn't have They're
not allowing, you know, big bags, and I was like, well,
it's sort of I wouldn't call it a bag.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
It's a coffin. Anyway, Anyways, they called it a bag.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
Why were they calling a coffin a bag?
Speaker 1 (44:35):
That's what I was exactly my argument. They didn't want
big bags in the Olympic stadium. But I said, it's not.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
But again I don't understand why it's an argument. Coffin
is you know, simply not a bag.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
So they could have This is the conversation I went
on that you had. Yeah, I did get it through.
I did have to pull some strings, and I'll be
honest with you, I bribed them.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
They were a fan of you, and they were like,
they were like, just because you're so good into a lass,
so we'll let you in.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
But they were like rules of rules, and I said,
I gave you a tenor and they went anyway. So
I see your head in the sound, I'm like, fuck,
you know Jesus, they're trying to put this gold medal
on your course, but your neck, you don't have enough
of a neck for it, so they're sort of wrapping
it around your arm and holding down. Anyway, I go, guys,
(45:22):
enough of this, help me get him in the coffin.
And we try and get in the coffin, but there's
so much there's so much mess, and your head is
like leaked and picked up a load of Anyway, I
get you in the coffin. To be honest, I've misjudged
the measurements is too small, so I'm like, can you
help me. Guys, we're getting the rakes from the sound
of chopping up, chopping out, chopping out. Try and get
your smallest pot liquify you get someone gets a blended
(45:44):
like put his head in the bend was anyway, we
pour it all in the coffin. The coffin's full there's
no room in this coffin. There's only enough room for
me to slip one DVD in the side for you
to take across to the other side. And on the
other side, it's movie night every night. What film are
you taking to show Heaven when it is your movie night,
mister Alex Wolf.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
Maybe the New Flash movie, just so I could take
it and they'd be like, eh, yeah, all right, wow,
this is the one you took and I get to
go dude, it's awesome.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
Wow, Okay, that's what I like, the New.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Flash Alex Wolf, tremendous guests. Do you have anything you
would like to plug to tell people to look out
for or listen to that thing?
Speaker 4 (46:24):
We've said a card too much, We've said far too much.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Alrighty okay, thank you for your time. This has been
a pleasure.
Speaker 4 (46:31):
That so fun so funny.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
I look forward to the Olympics. It was so funny.
Speaker 4 (46:35):
You're amazing. You're a genius, a genius interviewer. Amazing, You're amazing,
You're amazing. I'll see you soon later, Alligator.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
So that was episode three hundred and twenty two. Head
over to the Patriot at Patreon dot com. Forward lastpreat
coolsting next for secret chat video with Alex Wolf. Watch
Shrinking season two, watch season one. If you haven't watch
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TV and Chapple Podcast and give us a five star
rating and write about the film that means the most
to you and why it's a very nice thing to read.
My neighbor Marien always loves it and makes her cry.
(47:07):
Thank you very much. I hope you're all well. Thank
you all for listening. Thank you so much to Alex
forgiving me his time. Thanks to Scruby's PIP and the
Destruction Pieces of Network. Thanks to Buddy Peace for producing it.
Thanks that iHeart Media and Will Ferrell's Big Money Players
Network posting it. Thanks out to Bridge And for the
graphics and Leads to Learning for the photography. Thank you
all for listening. Come and join me next week for
another incredible episode. But that's it for now. I hope
(47:28):
you're all well. Have a lovely week, and in the meantime,
please now more than ever, be excellent to each other.
Speaker 4 (48:00):
That ps A Crash Backs Bass Backs, that Tos
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