June 11, 2025 • 54 mins
LOOK OUT! It’s only Films To Be Buried With! A REWIND CLASSIC!
Join your host Brett Goldstein as he talks life, death, love and the universe with the excellent comic actor and performer HELÉNE YORKE!
This Rewind is from July 4th 2023, originally episode 255, a bright and breezy fun ride with Heléne on top form! Below is the original writeup:
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Hopefully you may know Helene from her stellar work in The Other Two, which is doing big business out there in the streaming world. Or perhaps you've become familiar with her through Masters Of Sex even... The IMDB list is large, so you've got a ton of entry points - but if this is your first encounter with the name, what a great place to start. Heléne is brilliant fun from the very start, and it's an episode for the books right here with tons of fun and riffs, and a nice balance of film and non-film to really crack the code on Heléne... Loads to enjoy, and you shall!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Look out, it's only films to be buried with It's
rewind classic season. Hello, dearest films to be buried with crew.
(00:50):
My name is Buddy Peace. I'm a producer and editor,
a DJ and music maker, a card carrying member of
the Tim Dog fan Club, and for intro and outro purposes,
I'm temporarily standing in for your regular host and proud
creator of this podcast, mister Brett Goldstein. Regular episodes will
return shortly as ASoP Rock once said, the upbringing of
self styled freedom brigade investors and their studies connecting one
(01:12):
hit wonders with dust collectors puts it down. It's down
beneath your sappy singalongs. Let's take it further down. Well,
let Dante decide which ring I'm on. And for further information,
you could do worse than rewatch Roger Donaldson's nineteen ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Seven epic Dante's Peak. If you feel so inclined, goodn't that?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Every week Brett invites a guest on, he tells them
they've died, and then he talks to them about their
life through the medium of film. However, this week, we
are revisiting an earlier episode of the podcast while Brett
recharges the podcast batteries and retreats to the fortress Solitude
for a moment or two in this bridge between seasons.
This rewind is from July Fall twenty twenty three, not
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so long ago, originally episode two hundred and fifty five,
featuring acting great Helen New York. This was a really
lovely episode, free flowing and fun and really just a
really pleasant and fun hang one of those good time
fireside type episodes. Helene is putting some awesome work in
the Other Two and Masters of Sex, but I'll leave
the rest to Brett in his perfect intro in the
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episode kicks off. I will take this opportunity to also
remind you that Brett has a Patreon page for the podcast,
upon which you will get a bonus section on every
episode with a secret from each guest, more questions, and
a video of each episode which looks very nice, very fresh,
and it's really nice to see the faces in question talking.
So if you're a supporting nature and feel like some
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extras from this show, you'll find them all there. So
that is it for now. Let us get you settled
in for a wonderful episode with the brilliant Helene, New York.
Catch you at the end for a very quick sign off,
but for now, please enjoy this flashback episode two hundred
and fifty five of Films and two.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Very good Hello and welcome to Films to be buried with.
It is I Brett Goldstein, and I'm joined today by actor,
a musical superstar, a comedian, a sitcom giant, a legend,
a master of sex, a thirty rocker, and the uh
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one of one of the greatest of the other two.
I can't believe she's here. She really is, but look
at her. If you're looking on the video, you can
see her, and if you're listening you can hear her. Here.
She is the myth, the legend, the woman. It's a
lighter York collapse for self. Oh big fan, Hello, nice
(03:41):
to see you and meet you.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
We've been chatting for maybe three minutes and I'm very
still starstruck.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I'm equally starstruck. I will send to you off Mike,
and I realized I should say it on Mike, that's
your show the other two, which I don't know how
many people in England have seen it, but if you
haven't seen it, you need to see it. And I'll
tell you for a way. For many reasons, it's brilliant.
But it's also incredibly unusual in TV for the first
episode to be perfect. Most TV shows, people say, give
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it three seasons and it starts to get good. You
just got to give it. You just got to give
it five weeks of your life, and then it starts
getting good. But the other two first episode is like, yeah,
you nailed it. Everything's funny, all the characters you care about.
Everyone is sympathetic, empathetic, it's got pathos, it's funny, idea
(04:28):
filled with.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Jokes, fucking brilliant. Oh thank you, And that's episode right. Well,
that's how I feel about ted Lasso. You guys were
all a perfect cast, introduced perfectly in the pilot episode.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I thought, I feel like that's what you guys got
so right? Was cast? It was like so great, Every
single person was perfect. You know what I mean? In
your show? And forgive me for not knowing your life story?
Did you all know each other? It is your show
a magical thing or is it something that you've been
building towards? Like did you know Drew? And the writers?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Like no, I did, Well, I don't know about you
and Your Comedy Journey. But I went to musical theater school,
so I was this kind of geek that was doing theater.
And when it came time to like take an improv
class when I was unemployed, they were four hunder dollars
and I was like, I can't fucking afford that.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
And so I wasn't in the world, like I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
In the improv like Drew Tarvar is a wonderful improviser
through does Upright Citizens Brigade, is on improv teams tours
with Ben Schwartz and is very very funny in that way.
And then Chris and Sarah who created the other two
were you know, comedians improfisers, worked at College Humor and
then cohad wrote SNL and so when I read the show,
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I was like, and you know, it's so funny. I
was just listening to Adam Scott's episode of Your show
and he read Severance and he was like, this is
really great. I'm not going to get it, And that's
sort of how I felt. I actually, as an actor,
hate reading things I want. It's devastating, like devastating because
it's sort of like, oh, the fall from the rejection
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will be from such a greater height, it will hurt
so much more.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
So.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
It was like a cool kids on the other side
of the playground that I didn't know anybody, and you know,
got into a table read in LA and like met
Ken Marino and Molly Shannon was.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Like, what the fuck am I doing here? That's it.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
And the entire shooting of the pilot. That's so nice
what you said about the pilot. It was like dying
of an anxiety attack because I was positive they were
gonna replace me. They're gonna shoot the whole pilot and
be like, we have to redo all of Polena's seats.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
That's so great. I didn't know. I didn't know that
you were completely unknown to him or as in you
you were not connected anyway. That's fucking cool. What a find. Yeah,
thank you so much. Yes, I am such a jam
thank you, Yes, thank you. This is a diamond in
the rough. That's what I call myself all the time. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I was on this show called High Maintenance on HBO
and that Chris and Sarah watched me on that. It's
just like a common thing of people see you in
one thing and it's just about breaking in.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And that's what's so hard. That's what I found hard.
It's also unusual for shows too.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Well.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I suppose you have peripheral famous people in your show,
but for the for the two leads not to be
megastars is amazing and unusual and a great thing. I mean,
now you are, yeah, I'm a mega superstars. To give me,
give me decidedly not.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I'm decidedly not. But it is funny. I mean, you know,
it's like I talk about this all the time. It's
with acting and with doing this, there's always a new.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Obstacle, right.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
It's like if you're going to look for a job
at a certain point after you've like led a show,
they're like, well we're out to names, and you're like,
well what does that mean? It's so crazy. It's like
the goalpost is always moving. But it was very nice
to be absolutely no one.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, we need a real nobody. I'm here, Yes, meez,
you're fantastic. You're fantastic, and you've done three seasons. Tell
me how you feel. Because the show is beloved and
successful and in free of it. So you went from
you know, not being very well known to being much much,
much much more well known. Now, how have you changed?
(08:07):
In the three years. Basically, are you now a massive
dickt question? Yeah, I'd say, yeah, I'm a massive dickhead.
I he just like took the.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Words right out of my fucking.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Mouth, asshole.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Alm with this motherbucker do his podcast. God, I mean
to waiters, I mean to my uber drivers. I'm like
everywhere I go, I'm like, what you don't know who
I am? And then like throw silverware and demand that
everyone served me.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
How am I different?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I guess I guess I would say I'm sadly the same.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I'm older, I think more than anything.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
I think when you go from being nobody and clawing
and scraping to you you know I still have to
and do claw and scrape. There's a confidence in yourself
that I think moving forward through life is so nice.
It's just like, oh, hopefully when people meet me, or
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even if they haven't, they at least know about it,
have like a context for who I am, what I do,
and like what I'm like, And so it's sort of
like your reputation precedes you before you walk into a room,
as opposed to having to prove yourself everywhere you go.
And I don't know that that's a change. It's just
sort of I'm a little bit more backfooted. I'm trying
to figure out.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
You can go, Hey, how you do it. I'll let
you catch up to me. Yeah you know, Hi, I'm
and I'm great and yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Exactly like, yeah, you guys will figure it out. I
say that, And yet I was just joking with you
before this. I read an interview that I gave that
I absolutely sounded like such a dickhead in just like
a total coked up lunatic, and I'm like, maybe I'm
not as.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Bad, but its yeah, but the interview you're referring to
is in print, and I think print interviews are nearly
impossible because you're in real life funny and anything you
say funny that when it is then written down, often
without the context around it, you sound mad.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
It's a goddamn nightmare, especially if you swear a lot
like we do. I don't know if you have this problem.
I read myself in interviews and I'm like, oh my god,
you're a psychopath.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Oh yeah, I think that all the time. But sometimes
they edit out my swears and I go, oh no,
this is only funny with the swears. You take the
swears out now I sound really sincere, you know what
I mean? Or now it's like that's the worst part
of it is when you're being funny at the table,
but then written down it just reads sincere and you're like,
oh no, oh, I sound very earnest or like really egotistical.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Like a part of how I'm gross, how I'm funny
and close is to be disgustingly self deprecating by bragging
about myself. So when you see it in print, it's
just bragging about myself. Well, I'll be like, yeah, I'm
just like fucking amazing, and everybody's just out of me.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
But you like read it in print and it's like
this girl she's changed. I sat with Helena. She told
me she was like fucking amazing. Yeah, it's a mind show.
It's please context. There's just no context.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
And if you get interviewed and there's like no the
interviewer doesn't put their own voice in it, it's just
like a run on sentence of every dumb thing you
said and every name drop.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
That's the other thing. I'm like, oh my god, this
is insufferable. I will say you do in a way
that you've changed.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
If you become more successful and people know you, and
you meet all sorts of people, you have opportunities to
name drop, like you're dropping bombs like crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, but it's disgusting. Yeah, I mean yeah, I don't
know your experiences.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
No, I mean like I could be like, you know,
I was like talking to Brett Goldstein the other day
and he was telling me and asking me like how
I've changed, And I was like, you, we just dropped
Brett Goldstein in a conversation.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
That's going to get you. That's gonna have been Eddy
dose for you. Who you know, the sweary guy, the sweary.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Guy, the guy that say fuck all the time, doesn't
swear in print and sounds deeply sincere.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I've forgotten to tell you something that I now need
to tell you, which is you died. You're dead dead, Okay, okay,
a lot of things makes sense now. I feel I've
just always been feeling a little invisible lately. You're looking
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straight through me. Yeah, well, name you're dead? Thank you?
Oh my god, Oh my god, oh my god. Do
I need to call anybody? I suppose I can't, no, no, no,
but you can tap them on the shoulder and sort
of whisper, but you can't call them, you can't do
and you can't work with technology. Okay, I do. I'm
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sort of excited from this place.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
To also watch people more in me and give me
more attention than is ever imaginable. Do you ever think too, like,
did I die on the same day as like somebody
bigger will anybody that.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Is such a great, such a great? Did I die
and did Oprah die on the same day? Oh God,
you're just not going to get you. Okay, so you
died the same day, Aspra. I don't even know if
you make the papers. My god, nobody gives a ship.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
You're not even a thumbnail. You're not even a thumbnail
on the cover of people. They dedicate the entire cover
to her. She's on the every you know, you know
when they do.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
The like in memoriam at the Oscars or the Emmys,
it's just Oprah. It's just her. It's a five minute
tribute to Oprah. Anyone else he died that you forget it.
I wonder if I would be in the tribute at
the Oscars. I think, no, Well, because of Iprah? How
did you die the same year as Aprah? How did
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you die? Well?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I got hit by an electric bicycle crossing Prospect Park
West as this guy just like absolutely bad out of
hell needed to get somebody their sushi lunch.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
And Oprah died. She was for bad suit you forever.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, Oprah died like in the middle of the ocean
doing an amazing story on saving the Orca whales and
like the entire boat got swallowed hole.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
And she's just gone.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Actually, I did see a video of that happening to somebody.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
They're killing people of killing the bikes. Yeah, they're what's
the word, training each other. Well, and they took out
a bruh and she was out there trying to save them.
She didn't know what they wanted. They wanted to be
left alone. Well, okay, so you hit by an electric
bike and someone didn't get their sushi? Did the person
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riding the bike? Was it a hit and run or
would they like to go? Yeah, it was a hit
and run. They didn't stop.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
If you live in New York City, which I know
you don't, these guys have a mind of their own.
They don't give a shit what happened. They don't care
what happened to me. They got to get to the
next thing, and you know, what I appreciate and.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Respect the hustle. Okay, so you're not even mad about it? Right?
So you killed by an electric bike? Do you worry
about death? Yeah? Yeah, doesn't everybody? Does? Anybody? Answer no?
You know what? I did want to recording one these yesterday?
He answered no. He said, don't think about it, no
point all the time.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
And recently my husband and I sat down to do
our living will, which I guess, damn is coming into
use at this exact moment now that I'm doing this pod,
and I've been informed they.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Must be reading it, thank god. Yeah, and he said
in the living room, any surprises in the living room,
and like, do you think anyone will be.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Like, well, yeah, I think my well, no, he's not
going to be surprised. We gave our baby to a
member of the family. Okay, I think other members will be.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Jealous and mad.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
And I've been really rushing my husband to get this
in because I was like, there needs to be no
confusion over who gets this baby because he's the only
grandchild's niece, nephew, anybody. And I think people would like
people by people, I mean my family would tear each
other new absolute pieces, fighting over this child.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Right, But I thought about death so much. Persons going
to get the baby, person knowing yet.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
And the person knowing getting their baby is like now
threatening to kill me to get said baby.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Is like, well, that's so sad.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
That you told me that I'm going to kill you
now because I want him?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Does that person ride an electric bike a chance?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Oh my god, I'm not even kidding you right now.
This is not a joke. He does. He has an
electric bike.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I didn't think it was such an accident. I can't
believe he actually does. And that came full circle. That
was gorgeous, Bret. That is comedy and a full circle
for herself. Thanks for everyone who came. I just want
to say, we don't take this for granted. We've had
a good time. Hang on, why are you worrying about
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death so much?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I've always worried about death so much, even as a kid,
Like I cried to my grandmother, my oma, and I
was like, am I gonna die? And she said yeah,
And I think about like and you know what's the
other reason too?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
This is so psycho everything I do. Now do you
do this?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I'm like, well, I want to take care of old
lady me, or like I think about everything I do,
as in like when I'm on my deathbed, when it's
like the last couple of months, when like the writing's
on the wall, will I look back and be like fuck?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:52):
And so almost like I think about death in relationship
to everything I do.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Shit, Yeah, I suppose I do. In ten That's why
I want to get so much shit done because I
feel like running out. Yes, I gotta do this. I
gotta like meet this person.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I can't miss out on that restaurant if I don't
go to that, or like I need to. I need
to experience the full round of life so that when
I'm at the end, I look back and I'm like,
fucking did it?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, then death is on your side. This is good, yeah,
because you're saying without the specter of death hanging over,
you'd probably be just sort of laying around. I think
that's a really nice way of looking at it.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yes, I choose to look at it that way, Brett.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
What do you think happens when you die? Is there
an afterlife for you? Helena?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Is there an afterlife? I think about this a lot
of times too. Well, Oh, this is so deep. I'm
converting to Judaism, so in that the answer is now.
But if I went back to my old roots it
would be yes.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
In a way that is beautiful? Don't you think we
never die if you do a good job at living
and you on through the legacy of your friends, your children,
your loved ones.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
In that way? Is that is that the afterlife is
like you in memory? I don't know. You're talking like
Coco rules, Coco rules of like you live as long
as you're remembered. What is that Coco rules? The picture
film Coko, which is all about death is I don't
know that one. You should see. It will fuck you up.
But it's basically the dead remembered. If you have pictures
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of your family, if you love and the people that
you love and you think about, they live on because
you remember them, basically, and if you stop remembering them
then they go then they're dead. Dead damn.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
That's the afterlife or the afterlife only lives as long
as you're remembered.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, the film doesn't really answer what happens after that bit,
just oblivion those places. Do you know what makes to
be sad about that? Oh? Go ahead, no, I want
to hear your worry with it, No, I know my worry. Well,
I'm wondering if it's your worry.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Maybe not, But my worry with that is is like
is that a part of the Then you get into
the hamster wheel of being like I must be as
known as possible in life, so I'm remembered as long
as possible, and then that will extend my afterlife.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah, and you've also got a guy like It's not
a great necessarily sort of row because Hitler's very well remembered.
Do you know what I mean? Like well remembered.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
He's remembered well, as in he's distinctively remembered.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
But you just said he's well well, remember he's famously
thought of quite highly for years.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Well, post podcast, Brett Goldstein talks about Hitler as being.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
But the point is he's not been around for a while,
but we're still talking about him, which means by these rules,
he's having a lovely time in this afterlife or it's
purtect you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I guess well, because he's remembered, but it's like memory
and he's sticking around to like witness how big of
a piece of shit he was being Like oh, I was.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
A turning point for humanity. That's how out of a
dude I was. Doesn't sound like you remember him well
at all. I don't have great memories to learn, Brad,
sounds like a well through your fields sounds like a
dick it anyway. The point is the point is this
you living through the memory of your family and friends.
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Is all well and good for two generations, Matt, right, Matt,
And then I don't remember any many. Yeah, maybe maybe
two more generations if you lucky. There's a new version
of Who Do you Think You Are? And they do
an episode and they find out, oh, your great great
great great great grandma was in a show called The
Other Two when there was the thing that used to
be called TV, you know what I mean. And then
you're you've brought back in the afternoon because of that show.
(21:43):
That won't be on TV. It'll be on whatever it is.
It will be brains. So then when you're forgotten.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Here's the thing I think about is that, you know
how like the cosmos, it's never ending, Like what is
the edge of the universe?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
What what is the unknowable thing?
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Isn't our lives and our spirit and whatever our ethos
is isn't that an unknowable thing? Is that not a
frontier of the unknowable?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Can we know?
Speaker 3 (22:07):
When I start to think about space, it really makes
me want to vomit. It's just too much, too being like,
what too much?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
How big? Is it? Ah? You know what I mean?
I'm like no, no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
But if you think about souls afterlife, what happens to us?
If you look in the grand scheme of like God,
Jesus Christ, like why is anything anything? Can't you think? Oh,
then there's got to be an answer for like who
we are and where we go? And everybody tells you
stuff like you're so like your grandmother or whatever, like
are you not recycled a little bit?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah? That stuff hang on. Firstly, if you do ever
finish the other two, I would like to pitch a
space show much like Star Trek, where you are the
lead captain and every episode starts with a shot of space,
the space you're going through it, and the voice over
is you going space? It's too much? Jesus Christ. Is
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too much, isn't it? I don't like it is too much.
It's a good opening anyway. The other thing, what we're
saying space you recycling souls. Yeah, recycling culs the unknowable.
I mean, yeah, that stuff is weird. It is weird
how my nephew looks the same as me and my dad,
(23:26):
and it's just like all these like the way he smiles.
You go, well, it looks like it's just recycling. Everything's recycling.
You're right, But I do often think, and again I'm
not sure why this why it should be this case.
I sometimes think that you die and when you die,
you go, oh, it's like everything everything. You'll return to
(23:47):
the space where you're not in this body with its
limited brain and its limited eyes, and everything is let
in and suddenly you are all consciousness, all the world,
all the light. And you go, oh yeah, because all
that stuff. I can't believe I did that for ninety years.
Yeah yeah, oh I like that. I'm worried about that
print interview. Do you know me? Also? I think about
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this sometimes.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Once you get to that place, are you then like
spend a little time doing that and think, you know,
I want to try yes? And you live it then
for ninety years and you go back to that like
upper consciousness thing that you just talked about and you're
like that was interesting. Like there's some guy up there,
some dickhead was like, I'm going to try to be
(24:31):
this Hitler guy and see what happens. And he goes
up and he's like, damn, that was fucked up. Came
with it Hitler as an example. We should stop talking
about him.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, it does seem like we're sort of really obsessive,
or you.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Think like, oh, you know, I want to try being
a middle of the road dalist actress.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Let me try that and go to her and just
try it, and honestly it's been great. Well, i'll tell
you what. I'll tell you what, Helena. There is a heaven.
There is this place, and you're going there and you're
very welcome, and I'll tell you a spoiler. Hitler's not there.
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You were right place, ply remembered, well remembered, but very
poorly remembered. Heaven is filled with your favorite thing. What's
your favorite thing? Cheese? Right this place. This is a
cheese factory. It's like cheesecake factory, but it's just cheese
and everything everywhere. Jeez, you know, nice like the right
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texture to sit in the savas and made of cheese.
It won't break it's sort of soft, squeaky cheese. You're
sitting on squeaky cheese. This honestly sounds like a nightmare
no longer.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah, like how long you still love cheese?
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Honestly, this is why you might't be like, i changed
my mind. I'm going to go back. I'm going back.
I'm going back. I'll be an elist actor. Let me go.
What's below, dear cheese? And everyone is excited to see you. Oh,
the giant cheese strings that talk, and they are very
big fans of yours, and they want to talk about
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your life through film. The first thing they ask you,
the giant cheese string people, is what is the first
film you remember seeing? Helena York?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Okay, being asked this is interesting because you get told
that you've seen films, but you have to like to
remember being told versus remembering. And this question is also
how old are you, Helena York?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
My answer is.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
The Little Mermaid, which was the nineteen eighty nine animated
Little and my brother was born that year and we
would sing the songs all day long and he and
I'll never forget him us like I have another brother,
and we would shame him because he'd be like, oh now,
lo lord, and I'm pretty sure we were basically shaming
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him into speech therapy to learn how to say his rs.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
But it's the Little Mermaid. Do you still sing? How
you will? Ahead? Oh yeah at him? Oh now, willa
fuck you? It's like that. Are you the middle of
two boys? No, I'm the oldest with two boys? Right?
I see, I see. Did the Little Momaid make you
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want to be a musical person, a star or a mermaid?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
I think it maybe want to be a mermaid and
a singer, right, because something I'm going to say about
myself that would look bad in print.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Because this is a brag. Make it the que make
get the quiet guy. Let's replace the Hitler thing with this.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Yeah, replace it with us quickly, quickly, quickly make her
sound like a dickhead? Is if if you can sing,
if you're going to be able to sing, it's kind
of evident at an early age, and you feel that
your voice can do this thing and singing that music
was that for me?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Look at this stuff like all that, all those songs,
and recently it's so good.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yeah, I haven't seen the new light now, I haven't
seen it yet, but that is uh isn't it. John
Candor wrote all those songs, Alan Candor, Alan Mankin, Yeah,
Oh they're so good.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Do you find I once met a man who sings.
He's an actor, a singing actor as they called him,
and he telled me sincerely, And I didn't laugh at it.
I really think think about this quite often. I go
what a wonderful he meant it. It's difficult for someone
who finds sincere, it's difficult. But this was a very
beautiful thing, he said. I said, we're talking about him
singing and stuff, and he said, with no irony. When
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I sing, I feel closer to God. For that's loving.
Is that how you feel? That? Is so nice? Do
I feel closer to God?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
It's a powerful feeling singing and being good at singing
and doing it for people, And so maybe that's what
he's talking about.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
It is this sort of.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Other plane that you go to, like I've stood center
stage and nailed it. And if that is what being
close to God is, than sure it's an unbelievable feeling.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
But he meant like sincerely in a room by himself. No,
I think the difference between him and you is he said,
it made me feel closer to God as God. What
you've just said is you feel like a God again.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
This is why I get trouble in print, is that
it makes me feel godly as God.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yes, oh my fucking God, kill me. Yeah, that is
what I'm saying. I'm saying it, and fuck it, I
said it, and it's true. It is true. I can't sing.
It will be amazing, an amazing thing. It's the best feeling.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
And when you're good at it at a young age,
everybody makes a big deal out of you. I like
it when people make a big deal out of me,
is what I'm saying. And it's really it's just a
continuation of what you're saying. I'm saying, which is that Yeah,
I like to be seen as being the best, which,
if you saw written out in print again, would.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Look really bad. I think this is how episodes should
be transcribed in both of us. Do you what is
the film that made you cry the most? Are you
a crier? Elena? I am a crier. I'm a proud crier,
and I don't know about you. When a movie is
about to.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Make me cry, I'm like fuck yeah, and I lean
in and I like, you know, when you kind of
you're like, oh, I'm right on the precipice, like I'm
gonna get it there to get it, and you're edging
and you're like you're like here they come, here they come,
and it like feels so good when a movie gets
me there, I'm like baby, baby, here we go.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
And those I have two answers.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
I have my embarrassing answer it's not embarrassing, and then
I have my like cinephile answer. But my real answer
is the Joe Wright Pride and Prejudice. O. Wow, when
Matthew McFadden takes Kiaran Knightley's hand or they don't hold
hands and like the sun is rising over the misty hill.
That was such a beautiful film. And that's the one
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I think the most that made me cry. But then
the other kind of movies that make me cry are
war movies and like guys dying in war, especially these
world wars where.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
These like kids, it just kills me.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
And the most recent one that like made me absolutely
lose it was Sam Mendes nineteen seventeen where they start
out with the two guys that like, that movie was
one was you know, I'm sure they did. They obviously
didn't do it in one shot, but it made it
feel like a one or and.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
You think, oh, it's these two guys.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
You're starting out with these two characters, and the best
friend dies like a third of the way in in
that little and then he keeps going. I like lost
it for that war movies with these like young guys
dying really gets me because they like had to go
and it's for like queen and country and or country
in our case, but or I guess now it's King
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and country.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Damn, thank you, thank you. Not as nice as a ring, honestly,
but is that now? It doesn't the song doesn't sound
quite as good. I can't look at if it's like,
do you need this song? Mate? Do you know what
I mean? Like it doesn't feel right? Does you feel
like it's his song song? I mean I'm like, God
save the King. Oh we have a national anthem?
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yes, yeah, God save the Queen. And now now that's
just sort I'm sort of like, why didn't you commission
a new song because you're such a brat? God save you? Why? Yeah?
That's really good? Yeah, get any one? What is the
film that scared? Do you like being scared?
Speaker 5 (32:32):
No?
Speaker 3 (32:32):
I hate it, And there are people that are huge
fans of horror films and I'm like, absolutely not, No,
I hate this And I think this film actually put
me off horror films because.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I think it was ninety nine. Wasn't ninety one. It
was Scream the first Scream.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Now it's like it's like you're on Scream eleven or something,
but like original Scream. And that opening scene with Drew
Barrymore again a character you think like, oh, this movie's
gonna be about Drew Barrymore. And then she's hanging in
the garage and she's in the house on the phone.
That scared the shit out of me because I used
to babysit growing up and like around that time, I
was like heavy in the babysitting rotation. And you're alone
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in a house.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
You're like, go, look, making popcorn.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Making popcorn, about to watch a movie on a rotary phone.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I mean not on a rotary but we did not
have stele phns in my day.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
And that movie scared the shit out of me because
it just felt like, oh, that could happen to me.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
What is the film that people don't like? It's not
critically acclaimed, but you love it unconditionally.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I don't know if it's not a it had to
have been panned. I should have looked up the Rotten Tomatoes.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
It's okay, okay, I want to look it up while
I'm talking to you.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Minus Twilight, I think I fucking loved those that had
to be bad on Rotten Tomatoes.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I believe so certainly not critically beloved. It can't be right.
I can't look it up. It's too much. I don't
want to like search and be talking to you. It's disgusting,
and you're something you'll pop up in the knees with
you in it. We're left to start in print. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I loved the Twilight saga. I loved all three of them.
And I remember everybody meaning, like, these books fucking suck,
and I was like, do they? And so I read
them just because I was like, I wanted to have
an opinion on this thing.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
That everybody was talking about.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
And I read the books and I was like, yeah,
I guess these suck, but damn I see why people
love them.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
I did the same thing with Fifty Shades of Gray.
I was like, fuck you, I'm going to read them.
I read all three. You read them? I read the
first one to understand what was going on in the world,
and I listen. I talked about this a lot, like
people who say there's shit, which sort of they kind
of are, but they're also definitely not, because how could
there have been such a phenomenon if they weren't hitting
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something very squarely on the head? Do you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (34:49):
And I was like, this is basic rudimentary reading with
like hot sex. Of course people like that. They don't
have to think and you can just like put it
down real quick, rub it out and keep going, like,
no wonder people love these things.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Makes complete sense to me anyway, Twilight. You loved Twilight.
I like Twilight. I love Twilight.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
It's one of those things to words of the showing
on TV. I'm like, yeah, sure, I'll watch Twilight again,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yeah, what's the film that you did love? You used
to love it, and you watched it again recently and
you put out I don't like it. It's no more.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
I don't know that I don't like it anymore. It's
more like sad that it doesn't hold up.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Is that what it's supposed to be? That you don't
like it? Anymore, You're like, who it could be? It
just doesn't hold it. It couldn't be anything you might have changed,
the world has changed. Doesn't mean it's a bad film.
Just something's happened.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
I fucking loved my best friend's wedding, Like I loved
it so much, and like I remember calling friends after
it ended when I was in high school, being like.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Why doesn't he choose her? Why would he choose Cameron Diaz?
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Like it doesn't make any sense to me, and you know,
she was obviously the one.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
And then I watch it.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Again and I'm like, you fucking an idiot. She like
went to Sago to break up a relationship that he
was having with this like young, unassuming girl.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
The family is.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
So nice to you, like you're being invited to lunches
and like all this stuff, like you're going to the
baseball games.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Like everybody, you're going on a ride of like the.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
She's just like an awful character and it's so crappy
And by the end, I was.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Like, ugh, no, you know what I mean, Like when
I watched it again, have you watched that movie?
Speaker 5 (36:32):
No?
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yes, I cut a few years ago, we watched it.
I think we talked about it until less we watched it.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Oh my god, and she like basically plays this first
of all, I looked it up to and I don't
know if this happens to you. When you look up
old movies, you're like, how old was Julia Roberts when
she did my best friend's wedding twenty eight twenty things?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
How old was she was? Pretty?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Women younger than that, she must have been like twenty five.
Christ isn't that insane? I'm nothing that is insane.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
So much older than that now? Yeah, so yeah, yeah.
I got to the end of that and I was like,
my baby is like hysterically crime does my husband? Oh shit,
do you need to go and get a baby? You
can bring the baby on the poot? No, no, no,
get a baby. We pray baby.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
It was like literally losing his mind. It's so funny.
Like everybody asked me, did you bring him to work?
Did you bring the baby to work with you? I
was like, are you out of your mind? If I
hear him, I have a lobotomy, Like my brain literally
shuts down. I stop functioning. And I see people bringing
their kids to work and I'm like, how the fuck
do you do that?
Speaker 2 (37:29):
I don't know why you do that.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
I just like it's like a totally separate part of
my lizard brain. It's so bizarre. Okay, I was talking
about my best friend's wedding. She's like a successful restaurant
critic at twenty eight. Doesn't make any fucking sense. To
be a successful restaurant critic, you have to have like
known restaurants and been in the food world for a
long time. Like, you're not a successful restaurant critic. I'm
really mad about this movie now, Like it's disgusting that
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I was on her side. I can't believe they duped.
Like I can't remember how old I was me into
thinking like, oh, yeah, we're really rooting for Julia Roberts.
But maybe they weren't. Maybe I was just like dumb
and young. But anyway, I watched that movie again and dawn,
but you know it was greater. That is Rupert Everett
is amazing.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
So great in it, so great in it. What is
the film that means the most to you, Helena? Not
necessarily the film itself is any good, but the experience
you had around seeing it will always make it special
to you.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Oh are you talking about I got this question ahead
of time, and I thought it was a film you
loved because it was like a formative to you.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Is that what you mean? I mean, like the actual
let's say it was the first date you had with
your husband, that sort of things like when I saw
this film, this happened, and it will always mean something
to me because of the whole thing around seeing the film. Yes, absolutely,
so my answer is still stamps.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
And that movie is Jawshank Redemption.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Great. It's very good, famously very good film, famously.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Very good film that I barely watched because I was
with my first love. We were in high school and
he was like a cinophile. His name's his name, his
name was, He's alive. His name is Niles Cook. He's married,
he has three kids, he lives in Portland. He's like
a therapist now. And I was so in love with him,
and we fell in love in like the purest way
by passing notes during English class. And he was so
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like bitingly clever and funny and like maybe not like
the hottest guy in the world, but it didn't matter
because he was like so smart and funny, do you
know what I mean? And it was like the first
time I like it wasn't like now we text and whatever,
and when you're like dating somebody new, you're like are
they a good texter?
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Like are they funny? Over text?
Speaker 3 (39:33):
And it was literally pass notes during an English class
and I just loved him and he was dating this
like soccer hot shot at the school at the time,
sorry football and exactly anyway, and so it was not
meant to be. But then they broke up at the
end of senior year and he was like, my favorite
movie is Shawshank Redemption. And I was like I really
wanted to be cool and care about Shawshank Redemption, and
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so I like went over to his house and it
was like my first It was funny though, because we
did watch it, but it was like the anticipation of hooking.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Up during all of Shawshank Redemption. Imagine that, imagine and
so in it so much. We got a kiss this film.
So why did we get a kiss? Yes? And we
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ended up making out at the very end.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
I think I missed the end, but it was like,
you know, it was like my first hookup and I
think about it all the time.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, was it a good kiss? Oh? He was great.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
He was the greatest. He even texted me recently, this
is amazing. I got a text from him. I had
just had a new baby, and I was like, you know,
in the eyes of hell. And he texted me and
he's like, I had a dream about you last night,
and you know exactly what that means.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
And I was like, exactly what I needed to hear
in this moment. And he is a family and I
have a family.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
But yeah, like twenty years later, he's like, I had
a dream about you and I was like, fuck, yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
We were in prison, Morgan Freeman was there. We would
kiss it. You know what I mean. You don't know
what I mean, Shasha Redemption it's a great movie. I
had to watch it again to be like, what is
this movie? And I was like, damn, oh, he does
get out. What is the film you most relate to?
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Helena yok Bridgie Jones Diary. Does anybody say that? I
can't believe that's not on the list of amazing. No
one said that. No one said that, And now you say,
I'm like, amazing, no one said that. For the sense,
I can't believe nobody say that. Also, how has nobody
said the Little Mermaid that's come up? Okay?
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Great, Yeah, Bridge Jones's Diary. It came out when I
was in high school. Yeah, I was in high school
and I had read the book and I loved the book,
and I was so excited about the film. And I'm
really sorry an American played her for all British people. However,
now only British people play Americans.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yeah, exactly, it's fair. They're like, where do we find
a hot straight guy.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
I guess Australia or English. Make them bang through an
accent real quick. I loved it. She was such a
mess and she was in love with like the two
guys that I was always in love with, because it
was Colin Firth from the original Pride and Prejudice, which
I'm a fan of all Pride and Prejudices, but it
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is the Joe Roland that makes me cry. And then
Hugh Grant, who was speaking of Jane Austen in Sense
and Sensibility and was so hot and good in that
and in everything and anyway, Oh, I was like, God,
she lives in this like little apartment, she's always dieting,
and then you know, falls in love with the wrong guy.
And basically it was Pride and Prejudice, and I loved
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and I was like, how funny that that caused Colin
for that's crazy Pride and prejudice and prime and prejudice
again basically.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
You know, so stupid.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
And that's one that I had the dvd. I would
like put on time and time.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
I love that movie, said this new one. I love
the sequel wildly underwrite Edge of Reason, the Edge of Reason.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
But then that should be your answer for like something
that's not critically acclaimed that you love.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
That's a that's a great answer for that. Yeah, so
we can answer. Yeah, big sequence where she does mushrooms,
big secuence in a women's prison. It's funny, that's right,
big big funny stuff in it. Yeah, we watched. Yeah,
you're right. It isn't a right. I forgot.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
She gets like she has up been a Thai prison
or something. Yeah, and like is there for months and
her like ex boyfriend has.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
To get her out. Yeah, they really go for it.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
I think what I was more annoyed at is that
like I'm a big fan, Like I'm very basic, and
then I'm like, give.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Me my happy ending baby.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
And then these sequel revealed that they broke up, and
I was like, I'm out.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
I was really mad that they broke up, right, Yeah,
what is the film that you thought was the sexy
was the sexiest thing? Okay, this border's on porn.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
This movie it came out in nineteen ninety eight and
it was called Dangerous Beauty.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
And it was with.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
No, no, no, that's it. Yeah, dangerous beauty, not American beauty.
That's not liv Tyler.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
No no, no, that's not tell me dangerous beauty.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Katherin McCormick rufus Suell is that how you sy Yeah?
And she plays a courtizen in like Venice or something,
and she has all these you know, pope clients and shit.
And he's like a sexy guy who falls in love
with her and ends up having to marry a sensible
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girl and they stay in love and they the sex
scenes are so unbelievable and so romantic. It was such
a sexy movie. You should go watch it. It is
not well ranged. I looked it up. It is not
well loved, and was not well loved at the time,
and I do not understand why. What is psycho to
me is also that I'm like, you did not make
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this for thirteen year olds, and yet it felt that
it was made for me at that time in my
sexual awakening, and maybe that's why I have such like
a firm memory that being the sexiest movie ever. I mean,
they're like, you know, it's like satin sheets and she's
a courtesan. She knows all this stuff about sex, and
she's really sexy, and she falls in love with him,
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and like having to do her courtisan thing with like
these gross dudes becomes.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Like a little bit more difficult for her.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
It's so hot and he's I think he's such a
good actor and he's so good to I feel like
I'm selling it to you because you are sitting back
being like, bitch.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Why don't know? No, no, no, you really I'm like
annoyed I haven't seen it because it says right everything
you'll describe it like, oh.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
My god, and it's like and then there's this I like,
it's like burned in my brain, this like guy who's
a cardinal and gets like carried in and you're like,
oh god, these Catholic guys are such so fucked up,
and like they were having tons of sex with courtisans.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
I think it's called a courtisan.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
If you're no courtism, courtisan whatever point is hot fucking movie?
Speaker 2 (45:51):
All right? Dangerous it is. But there's a sub category
to this question traveling by and is worrying why don'tes
a found arousing? You went?
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Sure you sh I feel very much that all of
your questions are A how old are you Helena York?
And like b when did you go through peparty? Because
if you year stamp any of these, it's like, okay,
that hits like right at that point of your ADOLESCA when.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Did you and when did you hit puberty? That's the
that's really what right, That's.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
Really the question is like, yeah, you're like basically my doctor.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Mine is a center a pet detective extraordinary, So please
tell me This.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Sex scene with him and Courtney Cox in that movie
is to like eat.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
And it starts with like a headboard baying against the.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
Thing and like all the animals are watching them, and
I think it was like a hard cut, like they're
building tension between those two characters the whole time and
then they finally get it on and yeah, that's I
was discovering masturbation and I that's what I was talking
through a puberty doctor, And that's.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Really the one brilliant hasn't come up brilliant. I'm shocked.
I'm shocked that hasn't come up.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
A second theme from aspend to a pet detective, what
do people say?
Speaker 2 (47:16):
Like, what is a common answer for that? That's not
supposed to mermaids? Really a common answer would be one's answer,
perhaps M you know. An often common answer is oh,
I don't know, and I always think you fucking know.
People say I don't know? Yeah, some people, not many,
but there are, let's say, people who dodge the question
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in a way that I find disturbing and very revealing.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
I just told you that that's when I was discovering masturbation.
So I'm the opposite of that problem. And again something
that would look troubling in print.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
The theme objectively objectively, what's the greatest film of all time?
Might not be your favorite? It's the great It's a
wonderful life? Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, what what is the
film that you could or have? What's the mist iver?
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And over again Bridgie John's Diary? Is it?
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Yeah? I'm surprised that, Like, I'm surprised that what's the
most most like you?
Speaker 2 (48:18):
And that isn't usually the same answer it was.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
It came out at a time when I was like
becoming an adult, and it was about this adult woman
that didn't have it all together. And I was a teenager,
so of course I didn't have it all together, and
it just like it was.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Like a warm blanket.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
It made me feel like it was okay to be
kind of off, and.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
So I just watched it over and over and over again.
I loved it. I love that. Let's not be too
dark about this. But what's the worst film you've ever seen? Okay?
I'm surprised people have answers, because, like, why would you
even continue watching the worst movie you've ever seen?
Speaker 3 (48:53):
And the only reason you would continue watching the worst
movie you've ever seen is if you went to the premiere.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (49:04):
It's Cosmopolis. It was when Rob Pattinson had just done Yeah,
and he had just done and he's a brilliant artist,
Rob Pattinson, and he had just gotten done doing the
shitty Twilight Soga, which I love, but I think, like
I'm an artist. I want to be an artist, and
good for him, it did what it needed to do.
(49:24):
He's doing so many amazing films now, but he did
this movie Cosmopolis, and I fucking hated it.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
And stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
I think the entire movie is him in a limo.
It's like trying to do American Psycho, but he's just
in that limo. And then people like good actors and
or and like sometimes he gets out of the limit
to get coffee or whatever.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
But for the most part, he's just in that limo.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
No, And it was like all of the first premieres
I ever went to and I was like, I'm at
a premiere. You can't leave. And it was a MoMA
so it was in that basement movie theater.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
Yeah, wow, what did you say afterwards? I was to
see anyone from the film. Yeah, I think people from
I think he was there.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
No, I think I left with my friend who invited
me to go with her, and I was like, just
assumed that it had a premiere and I was there
and I was like, this is good. This is supposed
to be good. I'm supposed to like this. And I
left and I was like, that's that right.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
She was like I didn't like it, but again, like
I don't.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
I don't want to talk disparagingly about that movie. And
I also think as an actor, that was the smart
thing for him to be doing at that time, I'm
listen to me backpedal and like panic.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
Yes, it'sn't a quiet taste. I don't think it's a
bad film, but I do think it's not the easiest film.
And I can totally get why a lot of people
might not enjoy it. I don't that's a crime.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
I wonder if I watched it again, if I would
like appreciate what it was from like an art standpoint.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Do you know what I mean? Am I going to
make you do?
Speaker 5 (50:46):
That?
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Sends an email like you know what? Bruh I do?
And I can see it. It's beautiful, you know what,
It's beautiful. It's actually really beautiful. You're in comedy, very funny.
What's the film that made you laugh the most? It's
really said. All of my answers are British. We know
it wasn't a Spenturia. It was too busy to laugh
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in that one.
Speaker 3 (51:11):
It is a Sventura but I exactly, but I already
answered a Spentura for a sexiest so I really.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
Didn't need to change my answer.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
And so my answer for made me laugh the most
is Austin Powers, the first Austin Powers.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
Yeah, it's so fucking funny.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
So fucking funny, and like all the subsequent ones whatever,
also so fucking funny, funny.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
Dangers my middle name, so good. Those are so good.
That one Oh I fell, Oh I fell? Oh, but
again it doesn't hold up.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
It is basically assault, but I loved it.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
Please no one printing out this interview. Elena, you have
been a trait, a delight, a wonderful, brilliant time. Thank
you for doing this. Would you like to tell anyone
to listen or watch things you have coming up? What
are they?
Speaker 3 (52:12):
Just watch the other two? Watch it until you die,
bitch it. If you haven't watched it start from the beginning,
you won't regret it. It does not take time to
get into it. It's also so funny. You know how
your friends You're like, oh, yeah, my friends, I need
them to watch and like see the things I do
to support me. But whenever I'm in something bad, I'm like,
you don't have to fucking watch that.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
This is one where I'm like, just watch it. You'll
enjoy it. Yeah, it's so nice. Exactly, You're like, no,
you'll actually like this. This isn't you do me a favorite? This?
You'll enjoy this? Yeah, I had somebody, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
I had somebody recently make me come to a play
that they were in that I was like, this is bad.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
You should have known that it would. Don't make me
come to that. Yeah. Yeah, don't see the stuff that
I did. That's not great, but this is great. The
other two. I agree. You should watch the other two
and any you're thank you. You have a wonderful death.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
So that was a rewind classic with Helene York. Be
sure to check out the Patreon page at patreon dot
com slash Brett Goldstein, where you get extra chat and
video at Various Tears and otherwise. If you fancy leaving
us a note on Apple podcasts, that would be lovely too,
but make it a review of your favorite film, much
more fun and way more interesting to read for everyone involved.
Thank you so much to Helene for greatness and presence
(53:30):
on the podcast. Thanks to Scrupier's Pipp and the Distraction
Pieces Network. Thanks to This is where Brett thanks me
for editing and producing the podcast so I will always
say it is a great pleasure. Thanks to iHeartMedia and
Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network for hosting it. Thanks
to Adam Richardson for the graphics and Lisa Lydam for
the photography. Season nine is bubbling away, as you saw
last week with an amazing episode with the directors have
(53:52):
talked to me and bring her back, so next week
could be a new one or perhaps another hand picked rewind.
But stay close to your podcasters and all will be revealed.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
But that is it for.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
Now, Brett and I and all of us films to
be buried with I hope you're all very well. In
the meantime, have a lovely week, take some deep breaths now,
more than ever, be excellent to each other.
Look out, it's only films to be buried with It's
rewind classic season. Hello, dearest films to be buried with crew.
(00:50):
My name is Buddy Peace. I'm a producer and editor,
a DJ and music maker, a card carrying member of
the Tim Dog fan Club, and for intro and outro purposes,
I'm temporarily standing in for your regular host and proud
creator of this podcast, mister Brett Goldstein. Regular episodes will
return shortly as ASoP Rock once said, the upbringing of
self styled freedom brigade investors and their studies connecting one
(01:12):
hit wonders with dust collectors puts it down. It's down
beneath your sappy singalongs. Let's take it further down. Well,
let Dante decide which ring I'm on. And for further information,
you could do worse than rewatch Roger Donaldson's nineteen ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Seven epic Dante's Peak. If you feel so inclined, goodn't that?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Every week Brett invites a guest on, he tells them
they've died, and then he talks to them about their
life through the medium of film. However, this week, we
are revisiting an earlier episode of the podcast while Brett
recharges the podcast batteries and retreats to the fortress Solitude
for a moment or two in this bridge between seasons.
This rewind is from July Fall twenty twenty three, not
(01:51):
so long ago, originally episode two hundred and fifty five,
featuring acting great Helen New York. This was a really
lovely episode, free flowing and fun and really just a
really pleasant and fun hang one of those good time
fireside type episodes. Helene is putting some awesome work in
the Other Two and Masters of Sex, but I'll leave
the rest to Brett in his perfect intro in the
(02:11):
episode kicks off. I will take this opportunity to also
remind you that Brett has a Patreon page for the podcast,
upon which you will get a bonus section on every
episode with a secret from each guest, more questions, and
a video of each episode which looks very nice, very fresh,
and it's really nice to see the faces in question talking.
So if you're a supporting nature and feel like some
(02:32):
extras from this show, you'll find them all there. So
that is it for now. Let us get you settled
in for a wonderful episode with the brilliant Helene, New York.
Catch you at the end for a very quick sign off,
but for now, please enjoy this flashback episode two hundred
and fifty five of Films and two.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Very good Hello and welcome to Films to be buried with.
It is I Brett Goldstein, and I'm joined today by actor,
a musical superstar, a comedian, a sitcom giant, a legend,
a master of sex, a thirty rocker, and the uh
(03:14):
one of one of the greatest of the other two.
I can't believe she's here. She really is, but look
at her. If you're looking on the video, you can
see her, and if you're listening you can hear her. Here.
She is the myth, the legend, the woman. It's a
lighter York collapse for self. Oh big fan, Hello, nice
(03:41):
to see you and meet you.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
We've been chatting for maybe three minutes and I'm very
still starstruck.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I'm equally starstruck. I will send to you off Mike,
and I realized I should say it on Mike, that's
your show the other two, which I don't know how
many people in England have seen it, but if you
haven't seen it, you need to see it. And I'll
tell you for a way. For many reasons, it's brilliant.
But it's also incredibly unusual in TV for the first
episode to be perfect. Most TV shows, people say, give
(04:08):
it three seasons and it starts to get good. You
just got to give it. You just got to give
it five weeks of your life, and then it starts
getting good. But the other two first episode is like, yeah,
you nailed it. Everything's funny, all the characters you care about.
Everyone is sympathetic, empathetic, it's got pathos, it's funny, idea
(04:28):
filled with.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Jokes, fucking brilliant. Oh thank you, And that's episode right. Well,
that's how I feel about ted Lasso. You guys were
all a perfect cast, introduced perfectly in the pilot episode.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I thought, I feel like that's what you guys got
so right? Was cast? It was like so great, Every
single person was perfect. You know what I mean? In
your show? And forgive me for not knowing your life story?
Did you all know each other? It is your show
a magical thing or is it something that you've been
building towards? Like did you know Drew? And the writers?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Like no, I did, Well, I don't know about you
and Your Comedy Journey. But I went to musical theater school,
so I was this kind of geek that was doing theater.
And when it came time to like take an improv
class when I was unemployed, they were four hunder dollars
and I was like, I can't fucking afford that.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
And so I wasn't in the world, like I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
In the improv like Drew Tarvar is a wonderful improviser
through does Upright Citizens Brigade, is on improv teams tours
with Ben Schwartz and is very very funny in that way.
And then Chris and Sarah who created the other two
were you know, comedians improfisers, worked at College Humor and
then cohad wrote SNL and so when I read the show,
(05:39):
I was like, and you know, it's so funny. I
was just listening to Adam Scott's episode of Your show
and he read Severance and he was like, this is
really great. I'm not going to get it, And that's
sort of how I felt. I actually, as an actor,
hate reading things I want. It's devastating, like devastating because
it's sort of like, oh, the fall from the rejection
(06:00):
will be from such a greater height, it will hurt
so much more.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
So.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
It was like a cool kids on the other side
of the playground that I didn't know anybody, and you know,
got into a table read in LA and like met
Ken Marino and Molly Shannon was.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Like, what the fuck am I doing here? That's it.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
And the entire shooting of the pilot. That's so nice
what you said about the pilot. It was like dying
of an anxiety attack because I was positive they were
gonna replace me. They're gonna shoot the whole pilot and
be like, we have to redo all of Polena's seats.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
That's so great. I didn't know. I didn't know that
you were completely unknown to him or as in you
you were not connected anyway. That's fucking cool. What a find. Yeah,
thank you so much. Yes, I am such a jam
thank you, Yes, thank you. This is a diamond in
the rough. That's what I call myself all the time. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I was on this show called High Maintenance on HBO
and that Chris and Sarah watched me on that. It's
just like a common thing of people see you in
one thing and it's just about breaking in.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And that's what's so hard. That's what I found hard.
It's also unusual for shows too.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Well.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I suppose you have peripheral famous people in your show,
but for the for the two leads not to be
megastars is amazing and unusual and a great thing. I mean,
now you are, yeah, I'm a mega superstars. To give me,
give me decidedly not.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I'm decidedly not. But it is funny. I mean, you know,
it's like I talk about this all the time. It's
with acting and with doing this, there's always a new.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Obstacle, right.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
It's like if you're going to look for a job
at a certain point after you've like led a show,
they're like, well we're out to names, and you're like,
well what does that mean? It's so crazy. It's like
the goalpost is always moving. But it was very nice
to be absolutely no one.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, we need a real nobody. I'm here, Yes, meez,
you're fantastic. You're fantastic, and you've done three seasons. Tell
me how you feel. Because the show is beloved and
successful and in free of it. So you went from
you know, not being very well known to being much much,
much much more well known. Now, how have you changed?
(08:07):
In the three years. Basically, are you now a massive
dickt question? Yeah, I'd say, yeah, I'm a massive dickhead.
I he just like took the.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Words right out of my fucking.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Mouth, asshole.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Alm with this motherbucker do his podcast. God, I mean
to waiters, I mean to my uber drivers. I'm like
everywhere I go, I'm like, what you don't know who
I am? And then like throw silverware and demand that
everyone served me.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
How am I different?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I guess I guess I would say I'm sadly the same.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I'm older, I think more than anything.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
I think when you go from being nobody and clawing
and scraping to you you know I still have to
and do claw and scrape. There's a confidence in yourself
that I think moving forward through life is so nice.
It's just like, oh, hopefully when people meet me, or
(09:15):
even if they haven't, they at least know about it,
have like a context for who I am, what I do,
and like what I'm like, And so it's sort of
like your reputation precedes you before you walk into a room,
as opposed to having to prove yourself everywhere you go.
And I don't know that that's a change. It's just
sort of I'm a little bit more backfooted. I'm trying
to figure out.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
You can go, Hey, how you do it. I'll let
you catch up to me. Yeah you know, Hi, I'm
and I'm great and yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Exactly like, yeah, you guys will figure it out. I
say that, And yet I was just joking with you
before this. I read an interview that I gave that
I absolutely sounded like such a dickhead in just like
a total coked up lunatic, and I'm like, maybe I'm
not as.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Bad, but its yeah, but the interview you're referring to
is in print, and I think print interviews are nearly
impossible because you're in real life funny and anything you
say funny that when it is then written down, often
without the context around it, you sound mad.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
It's a goddamn nightmare, especially if you swear a lot
like we do. I don't know if you have this problem.
I read myself in interviews and I'm like, oh my god,
you're a psychopath.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Oh yeah, I think that all the time. But sometimes
they edit out my swears and I go, oh no,
this is only funny with the swears. You take the
swears out now I sound really sincere, you know what
I mean? Or now it's like that's the worst part
of it is when you're being funny at the table,
but then written down it just reads sincere and you're like,
oh no, oh, I sound very earnest or like really egotistical.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Like a part of how I'm gross, how I'm funny
and close is to be disgustingly self deprecating by bragging
about myself. So when you see it in print, it's
just bragging about myself. Well, I'll be like, yeah, I'm
just like fucking amazing, and everybody's just out of me.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
But you like read it in print and it's like
this girl she's changed. I sat with Helena. She told
me she was like fucking amazing. Yeah, it's a mind show.
It's please context. There's just no context.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
And if you get interviewed and there's like no the
interviewer doesn't put their own voice in it, it's just
like a run on sentence of every dumb thing you
said and every name drop.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
That's the other thing. I'm like, oh my god, this
is insufferable. I will say you do in a way
that you've changed.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
If you become more successful and people know you, and
you meet all sorts of people, you have opportunities to
name drop, like you're dropping bombs like crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, but it's disgusting. Yeah, I mean yeah, I don't
know your experiences.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
No, I mean like I could be like, you know,
I was like talking to Brett Goldstein the other day
and he was telling me and asking me like how
I've changed, And I was like, you, we just dropped
Brett Goldstein in a conversation.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
That's going to get you. That's gonna have been Eddy
dose for you. Who you know, the sweary guy, the sweary.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Guy, the guy that say fuck all the time, doesn't
swear in print and sounds deeply sincere.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I've forgotten to tell you something that I now need
to tell you, which is you died. You're dead dead, Okay, okay,
a lot of things makes sense now. I feel I've
just always been feeling a little invisible lately. You're looking
(12:45):
straight through me. Yeah, well, name you're dead? Thank you?
Oh my god, Oh my god, oh my god. Do
I need to call anybody? I suppose I can't, no, no, no,
but you can tap them on the shoulder and sort
of whisper, but you can't call them, you can't do
and you can't work with technology. Okay, I do. I'm
(13:07):
sort of excited from this place.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
To also watch people more in me and give me
more attention than is ever imaginable. Do you ever think too, like,
did I die on the same day as like somebody
bigger will anybody that.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Is such a great, such a great? Did I die
and did Oprah die on the same day? Oh God,
you're just not going to get you. Okay, so you
died the same day, Aspra. I don't even know if
you make the papers. My god, nobody gives a ship.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
You're not even a thumbnail. You're not even a thumbnail
on the cover of people. They dedicate the entire cover
to her. She's on the every you know, you know
when they do.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
The like in memoriam at the Oscars or the Emmys,
it's just Oprah. It's just her. It's a five minute
tribute to Oprah. Anyone else he died that you forget it.
I wonder if I would be in the tribute at
the Oscars. I think, no, Well, because of Iprah? How
did you die the same year as Aprah? How did
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you die? Well?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I got hit by an electric bicycle crossing Prospect Park
West as this guy just like absolutely bad out of
hell needed to get somebody their sushi lunch.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
And Oprah died. She was for bad suit you forever.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, Oprah died like in the middle of the ocean
doing an amazing story on saving the Orca whales and
like the entire boat got swallowed hole.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
And she's just gone.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Actually, I did see a video of that happening to somebody.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
They're killing people of killing the bikes. Yeah, they're what's
the word, training each other. Well, and they took out
a bruh and she was out there trying to save them.
She didn't know what they wanted. They wanted to be
left alone. Well, okay, so you hit by an electric
bike and someone didn't get their sushi? Did the person
(15:12):
riding the bike? Was it a hit and run or
would they like to go? Yeah, it was a hit
and run. They didn't stop.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
If you live in New York City, which I know
you don't, these guys have a mind of their own.
They don't give a shit what happened. They don't care
what happened to me. They got to get to the
next thing, and you know, what I appreciate and.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Respect the hustle. Okay, so you're not even mad about it? Right?
So you killed by an electric bike? Do you worry
about death? Yeah? Yeah, doesn't everybody? Does? Anybody? Answer no?
You know what? I did want to recording one these yesterday?
He answered no. He said, don't think about it, no
point all the time.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
And recently my husband and I sat down to do
our living will, which I guess, damn is coming into
use at this exact moment now that I'm doing this pod,
and I've been informed they.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Must be reading it, thank god. Yeah, and he said
in the living room, any surprises in the living room,
and like, do you think anyone will be.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Like, well, yeah, I think my well, no, he's not
going to be surprised. We gave our baby to a
member of the family. Okay, I think other members will be.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Jealous and mad.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
And I've been really rushing my husband to get this
in because I was like, there needs to be no
confusion over who gets this baby because he's the only
grandchild's niece, nephew, anybody. And I think people would like
people by people, I mean my family would tear each
other new absolute pieces, fighting over this child.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Right, But I thought about death so much. Persons going
to get the baby, person knowing yet.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
And the person knowing getting their baby is like now
threatening to kill me to get said baby.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Is like, well, that's so sad.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
That you told me that I'm going to kill you
now because I want him?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Does that person ride an electric bike a chance?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Oh my god, I'm not even kidding you right now.
This is not a joke. He does. He has an
electric bike.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I didn't think it was such an accident. I can't
believe he actually does. And that came full circle. That
was gorgeous, Bret. That is comedy and a full circle
for herself. Thanks for everyone who came. I just want
to say, we don't take this for granted. We've had
a good time. Hang on, why are you worrying about
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death so much?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I've always worried about death so much, even as a kid,
Like I cried to my grandmother, my oma, and I
was like, am I gonna die? And she said yeah,
And I think about like and you know what's the
other reason too?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
This is so psycho everything I do. Now do you
do this?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I'm like, well, I want to take care of old
lady me, or like I think about everything I do,
as in like when I'm on my deathbed, when it's
like the last couple of months, when like the writing's
on the wall, will I look back and be like fuck?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:52):
And so almost like I think about death in relationship
to everything I do.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Shit, Yeah, I suppose I do. In ten That's why
I want to get so much shit done because I
feel like running out. Yes, I gotta do this. I
gotta like meet this person.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I can't miss out on that restaurant if I don't
go to that, or like I need to. I need
to experience the full round of life so that when
I'm at the end, I look back and I'm like,
fucking did it?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, then death is on your side. This is good, yeah,
because you're saying without the specter of death hanging over,
you'd probably be just sort of laying around. I think
that's a really nice way of looking at it.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yes, I choose to look at it that way, Brett.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
What do you think happens when you die? Is there
an afterlife for you? Helena?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Is there an afterlife? I think about this a lot
of times too. Well, Oh, this is so deep. I'm
converting to Judaism, so in that the answer is now.
But if I went back to my old roots it
would be yes.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
In a way that is beautiful? Don't you think we
never die if you do a good job at living
and you on through the legacy of your friends, your children,
your loved ones.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
In that way? Is that is that the afterlife is
like you in memory? I don't know. You're talking like
Coco rules, Coco rules of like you live as long
as you're remembered. What is that Coco rules? The picture
film Coko, which is all about death is I don't
know that one. You should see. It will fuck you up.
But it's basically the dead remembered. If you have pictures
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of your family, if you love and the people that
you love and you think about, they live on because
you remember them, basically, and if you stop remembering them
then they go then they're dead. Dead damn.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
That's the afterlife or the afterlife only lives as long
as you're remembered.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, the film doesn't really answer what happens after that bit,
just oblivion those places. Do you know what makes to
be sad about that? Oh? Go ahead, no, I want
to hear your worry with it, No, I know my worry. Well,
I'm wondering if it's your worry.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Maybe not, But my worry with that is is like
is that a part of the Then you get into
the hamster wheel of being like I must be as
known as possible in life, so I'm remembered as long
as possible, and then that will extend my afterlife.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah, and you've also got a guy like It's not
a great necessarily sort of row because Hitler's very well remembered.
Do you know what I mean? Like well remembered.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
He's remembered well, as in he's distinctively remembered.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
But you just said he's well well, remember he's famously
thought of quite highly for years.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Well, post podcast, Brett Goldstein talks about Hitler as being.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
But the point is he's not been around for a while,
but we're still talking about him, which means by these rules,
he's having a lovely time in this afterlife or it's
purtect you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I guess well, because he's remembered, but it's like memory
and he's sticking around to like witness how big of
a piece of shit he was being Like oh, I was.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
A turning point for humanity. That's how out of a
dude I was. Doesn't sound like you remember him well
at all. I don't have great memories to learn, Brad,
sounds like a well through your fields sounds like a
dick it anyway. The point is the point is this
you living through the memory of your family and friends.
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Is all well and good for two generations, Matt, right, Matt,
And then I don't remember any many. Yeah, maybe maybe
two more generations if you lucky. There's a new version
of Who Do you Think You Are? And they do
an episode and they find out, oh, your great great
great great great grandma was in a show called The
Other Two when there was the thing that used to
be called TV, you know what I mean. And then
you're you've brought back in the afternoon because of that show.
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That won't be on TV. It'll be on whatever it is.
It will be brains. So then when you're forgotten.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Here's the thing I think about is that, you know
how like the cosmos, it's never ending, Like what is
the edge of the universe?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
What what is the unknowable thing?
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Isn't our lives and our spirit and whatever our ethos
is isn't that an unknowable thing? Is that not a
frontier of the unknowable?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Can we know?
Speaker 3 (22:07):
When I start to think about space, it really makes
me want to vomit. It's just too much, too being like,
what too much?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
How big? Is it? Ah? You know what I mean?
I'm like no, no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
But if you think about souls afterlife, what happens to us?
If you look in the grand scheme of like God,
Jesus Christ, like why is anything anything? Can't you think? Oh,
then there's got to be an answer for like who
we are and where we go? And everybody tells you
stuff like you're so like your grandmother or whatever, like
are you not recycled a little bit?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah? That stuff hang on. Firstly, if you do ever
finish the other two, I would like to pitch a
space show much like Star Trek, where you are the
lead captain and every episode starts with a shot of space,
the space you're going through it, and the voice over
is you going space? It's too much? Jesus Christ. Is
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too much, isn't it? I don't like it is too much.
It's a good opening anyway. The other thing, what we're
saying space you recycling souls. Yeah, recycling culs the unknowable.
I mean, yeah, that stuff is weird. It is weird
how my nephew looks the same as me and my dad,
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and it's just like all these like the way he smiles.
You go, well, it looks like it's just recycling. Everything's recycling.
You're right, But I do often think, and again I'm
not sure why this why it should be this case.
I sometimes think that you die and when you die,
you go, oh, it's like everything everything. You'll return to
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the space where you're not in this body with its
limited brain and its limited eyes, and everything is let
in and suddenly you are all consciousness, all the world,
all the light. And you go, oh yeah, because all
that stuff. I can't believe I did that for ninety years.
Yeah yeah, oh I like that. I'm worried about that
print interview. Do you know me? Also? I think about
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this sometimes.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Once you get to that place, are you then like
spend a little time doing that and think, you know,
I want to try yes? And you live it then
for ninety years and you go back to that like
upper consciousness thing that you just talked about and you're
like that was interesting. Like there's some guy up there,
some dickhead was like, I'm going to try to be
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this Hitler guy and see what happens. And he goes
up and he's like, damn, that was fucked up. Came
with it Hitler as an example. We should stop talking
about him.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, it does seem like we're sort of really obsessive,
or you.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Think like, oh, you know, I want to try being
a middle of the road dalist actress.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Let me try that and go to her and just
try it, and honestly it's been great. Well, i'll tell
you what. I'll tell you what, Helena. There is a heaven.
There is this place, and you're going there and you're
very welcome, and I'll tell you a spoiler. Hitler's not there.
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You were right place, ply remembered, well remembered, but very
poorly remembered. Heaven is filled with your favorite thing. What's
your favorite thing? Cheese? Right this place. This is a
cheese factory. It's like cheesecake factory, but it's just cheese
and everything everywhere. Jeez, you know, nice like the right
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texture to sit in the savas and made of cheese.
It won't break it's sort of soft, squeaky cheese. You're
sitting on squeaky cheese. This honestly sounds like a nightmare
no longer.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah, like how long you still love cheese?
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Honestly, this is why you might't be like, i changed
my mind. I'm going to go back. I'm going back.
I'm going back. I'll be an elist actor. Let me go.
What's below, dear cheese? And everyone is excited to see you. Oh,
the giant cheese strings that talk, and they are very
big fans of yours, and they want to talk about
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your life through film. The first thing they ask you,
the giant cheese string people, is what is the first
film you remember seeing? Helena York?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Okay, being asked this is interesting because you get told
that you've seen films, but you have to like to
remember being told versus remembering. And this question is also
how old are you, Helena York?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
My answer is.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
The Little Mermaid, which was the nineteen eighty nine animated
Little and my brother was born that year and we
would sing the songs all day long and he and
I'll never forget him us like I have another brother,
and we would shame him because he'd be like, oh now,
lo lord, and I'm pretty sure we were basically shaming
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him into speech therapy to learn how to say his rs.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
But it's the Little Mermaid. Do you still sing? How
you will? Ahead? Oh yeah at him? Oh now, willa
fuck you? It's like that. Are you the middle of
two boys? No, I'm the oldest with two boys? Right?
I see, I see. Did the Little Momaid make you
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want to be a musical person, a star or a mermaid?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
I think it maybe want to be a mermaid and
a singer, right, because something I'm going to say about
myself that would look bad in print.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Because this is a brag. Make it the que make
get the quiet guy. Let's replace the Hitler thing with this.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Yeah, replace it with us quickly, quickly, quickly make her
sound like a dickhead? Is if if you can sing,
if you're going to be able to sing, it's kind
of evident at an early age, and you feel that
your voice can do this thing and singing that music
was that for me?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Look at this stuff like all that, all those songs,
and recently it's so good.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yeah, I haven't seen the new light now, I haven't
seen it yet, but that is uh isn't it. John
Candor wrote all those songs, Alan Candor, Alan Mankin, Yeah,
Oh they're so good.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Do you find I once met a man who sings.
He's an actor, a singing actor as they called him,
and he telled me sincerely, And I didn't laugh at it.
I really think think about this quite often. I go
what a wonderful he meant it. It's difficult for someone
who finds sincere, it's difficult. But this was a very
beautiful thing, he said. I said, we're talking about him
singing and stuff, and he said, with no irony. When
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I sing, I feel closer to God. For that's loving.
Is that how you feel? That? Is so nice? Do
I feel closer to God?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
It's a powerful feeling singing and being good at singing
and doing it for people, And so maybe that's what
he's talking about.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
It is this sort of.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Other plane that you go to, like I've stood center
stage and nailed it. And if that is what being
close to God is, than sure it's an unbelievable feeling.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
But he meant like sincerely in a room by himself. No,
I think the difference between him and you is he said,
it made me feel closer to God as God. What
you've just said is you feel like a God again.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
This is why I get trouble in print, is that
it makes me feel godly as God.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yes, oh my fucking God, kill me. Yeah, that is
what I'm saying. I'm saying it, and fuck it, I
said it, and it's true. It is true. I can't sing.
It will be amazing, an amazing thing. It's the best feeling.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
And when you're good at it at a young age,
everybody makes a big deal out of you. I like
it when people make a big deal out of me,
is what I'm saying. And it's really it's just a
continuation of what you're saying. I'm saying, which is that Yeah,
I like to be seen as being the best, which,
if you saw written out in print again, would.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Look really bad. I think this is how episodes should
be transcribed in both of us. Do you what is
the film that made you cry the most? Are you
a crier? Elena? I am a crier. I'm a proud crier,
and I don't know about you. When a movie is
about to.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Make me cry, I'm like fuck yeah, and I lean
in and I like, you know, when you kind of
you're like, oh, I'm right on the precipice, like I'm
gonna get it there to get it, and you're edging
and you're like you're like here they come, here they come,
and it like feels so good when a movie gets
me there, I'm like baby, baby, here we go.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
And those I have two answers.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
I have my embarrassing answer it's not embarrassing, and then
I have my like cinephile answer. But my real answer
is the Joe Wright Pride and Prejudice. O. Wow, when
Matthew McFadden takes Kiaran Knightley's hand or they don't hold
hands and like the sun is rising over the misty hill.
That was such a beautiful film. And that's the one
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I think the most that made me cry. But then
the other kind of movies that make me cry are
war movies and like guys dying in war, especially these
world wars where.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
These like kids, it just kills me.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
And the most recent one that like made me absolutely
lose it was Sam Mendes nineteen seventeen where they start
out with the two guys that like, that movie was
one was you know, I'm sure they did. They obviously
didn't do it in one shot, but it made it
feel like a one or and.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
You think, oh, it's these two guys.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
You're starting out with these two characters, and the best
friend dies like a third of the way in in
that little and then he keeps going. I like lost
it for that war movies with these like young guys
dying really gets me because they like had to go
and it's for like queen and country and or country
in our case, but or I guess now it's King
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and country.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Damn, thank you, thank you. Not as nice as a ring, honestly,
but is that now? It doesn't the song doesn't sound
quite as good. I can't look at if it's like,
do you need this song? Mate? Do you know what
I mean? Like it doesn't feel right? Does you feel
like it's his song song? I mean I'm like, God
save the King. Oh we have a national anthem?
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yes, yeah, God save the Queen. And now now that's
just sort I'm sort of like, why didn't you commission
a new song because you're such a brat? God save you? Why? Yeah?
That's really good? Yeah, get any one? What is the
film that scared? Do you like being scared?
Speaker 5 (32:32):
No?
Speaker 3 (32:32):
I hate it, And there are people that are huge
fans of horror films and I'm like, absolutely not, No,
I hate this And I think this film actually put
me off horror films because.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I think it was ninety nine. Wasn't ninety one. It
was Scream the first Scream.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Now it's like it's like you're on Scream eleven or something,
but like original Scream. And that opening scene with Drew
Barrymore again a character you think like, oh, this movie's
gonna be about Drew Barrymore. And then she's hanging in
the garage and she's in the house on the phone.
That scared the shit out of me because I used
to babysit growing up and like around that time, I
was like heavy in the babysitting rotation. And you're alone
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in a house.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
You're like, go, look, making popcorn.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Making popcorn, about to watch a movie on a rotary phone.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I mean not on a rotary but we did not
have stele phns in my day.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
And that movie scared the shit out of me because
it just felt like, oh, that could happen to me.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
What is the film that people don't like? It's not
critically acclaimed, but you love it unconditionally.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I don't know if it's not a it had to
have been panned. I should have looked up the Rotten Tomatoes.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
It's okay, okay, I want to look it up while
I'm talking to you.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Minus Twilight, I think I fucking loved those that had
to be bad on Rotten Tomatoes.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I believe so certainly not critically beloved. It can't be right.
I can't look it up. It's too much. I don't
want to like search and be talking to you. It's disgusting,
and you're something you'll pop up in the knees with
you in it. We're left to start in print. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I loved the Twilight saga. I loved all three of them.
And I remember everybody meaning, like, these books fucking suck,
and I was like, do they? And so I read
them just because I was like, I wanted to have
an opinion on this thing.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
That everybody was talking about.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
And I read the books and I was like, yeah,
I guess these suck, but damn I see why people
love them.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
I did the same thing with Fifty Shades of Gray.
I was like, fuck you, I'm going to read them.
I read all three. You read them? I read the
first one to understand what was going on in the world,
and I listen. I talked about this a lot, like
people who say there's shit, which sort of they kind
of are, but they're also definitely not, because how could
there have been such a phenomenon if they weren't hitting
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something very squarely on the head? Do you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (34:49):
And I was like, this is basic rudimentary reading with
like hot sex. Of course people like that. They don't
have to think and you can just like put it
down real quick, rub it out and keep going, like,
no wonder people love these things.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Makes complete sense to me anyway, Twilight. You loved Twilight.
I like Twilight. I love Twilight.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
It's one of those things to words of the showing
on TV. I'm like, yeah, sure, I'll watch Twilight again,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yeah, what's the film that you did love? You used
to love it, and you watched it again recently and
you put out I don't like it. It's no more.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
I don't know that I don't like it anymore. It's
more like sad that it doesn't hold up.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Is that what it's supposed to be? That you don't
like it? Anymore, You're like, who it could be? It
just doesn't hold it. It couldn't be anything you might have changed,
the world has changed. Doesn't mean it's a bad film.
Just something's happened.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
I fucking loved my best friend's wedding, Like I loved
it so much, and like I remember calling friends after
it ended when I was in high school, being like.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Why doesn't he choose her? Why would he choose Cameron Diaz?
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Like it doesn't make any sense to me, and you know,
she was obviously the one.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
And then I watch it.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Again and I'm like, you fucking an idiot. She like
went to Sago to break up a relationship that he
was having with this like young, unassuming girl.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
The family is.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
So nice to you, like you're being invited to lunches
and like all this stuff, like you're going to the
baseball games.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Like everybody, you're going on a ride of like the.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
She's just like an awful character and it's so crappy
And by the end, I was.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Like, ugh, no, you know what I mean, Like when
I watched it again, have you watched that movie?
Speaker 5 (36:32):
No?
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yes, I cut a few years ago, we watched it.
I think we talked about it until less we watched it.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Oh my god, and she like basically plays this first
of all, I looked it up to and I don't
know if this happens to you. When you look up
old movies, you're like, how old was Julia Roberts when
she did my best friend's wedding twenty eight twenty things?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
How old was she was? Pretty?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Women younger than that, she must have been like twenty five.
Christ isn't that insane? I'm nothing that is insane.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
So much older than that now? Yeah, so yeah, yeah.
I got to the end of that and I was like,
my baby is like hysterically crime does my husband? Oh shit,
do you need to go and get a baby? You
can bring the baby on the poot? No, no, no,
get a baby. We pray baby.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
It was like literally losing his mind. It's so funny.
Like everybody asked me, did you bring him to work?
Did you bring the baby to work with you? I
was like, are you out of your mind? If I
hear him, I have a lobotomy, Like my brain literally
shuts down. I stop functioning. And I see people bringing
their kids to work and I'm like, how the fuck
do you do that?
Speaker 2 (37:29):
I don't know why you do that.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
I just like it's like a totally separate part of
my lizard brain. It's so bizarre. Okay, I was talking
about my best friend's wedding. She's like a successful restaurant
critic at twenty eight. Doesn't make any fucking sense. To
be a successful restaurant critic, you have to have like
known restaurants and been in the food world for a
long time. Like, you're not a successful restaurant critic. I'm
really mad about this movie now, Like it's disgusting that
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I was on her side. I can't believe they duped.
Like I can't remember how old I was me into
thinking like, oh, yeah, we're really rooting for Julia Roberts.
But maybe they weren't. Maybe I was just like dumb
and young. But anyway, I watched that movie again and dawn,
but you know it was greater. That is Rupert Everett
is amazing.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
So great in it, so great in it. What is
the film that means the most to you, Helena? Not
necessarily the film itself is any good, but the experience
you had around seeing it will always make it special
to you.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Oh are you talking about I got this question ahead
of time, and I thought it was a film you
loved because it was like a formative to you.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Is that what you mean? I mean, like the actual
let's say it was the first date you had with
your husband, that sort of things like when I saw
this film, this happened, and it will always mean something
to me because of the whole thing around seeing the film. Yes, absolutely,
so my answer is still stamps.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
And that movie is Jawshank Redemption.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Great. It's very good, famously very good film, famously.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Very good film that I barely watched because I was
with my first love. We were in high school and
he was like a cinophile. His name's his name, his
name was, He's alive. His name is Niles Cook. He's married,
he has three kids, he lives in Portland. He's like
a therapist now. And I was so in love with him,
and we fell in love in like the purest way
by passing notes during English class. And he was so
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like bitingly clever and funny and like maybe not like
the hottest guy in the world, but it didn't matter
because he was like so smart and funny, do you
know what I mean? And it was like the first
time I like it wasn't like now we text and whatever,
and when you're like dating somebody new, you're like are
they a good texter?
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Like are they funny? Over text?
Speaker 3 (39:33):
And it was literally pass notes during an English class
and I just loved him and he was dating this
like soccer hot shot at the school at the time,
sorry football and exactly anyway, and so it was not
meant to be. But then they broke up at the
end of senior year and he was like, my favorite
movie is Shawshank Redemption. And I was like I really
wanted to be cool and care about Shawshank Redemption, and
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so I like went over to his house and it
was like my first It was funny though, because we
did watch it, but it was like the anticipation of hooking.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Up during all of Shawshank Redemption. Imagine that, imagine and
so in it so much. We got a kiss this film.
So why did we get a kiss? Yes? And we
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ended up making out at the very end.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
I think I missed the end, but it was like,
you know, it was like my first hookup and I
think about it all the time.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, was it a good kiss? Oh? He was great.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
He was the greatest. He even texted me recently, this
is amazing. I got a text from him. I had
just had a new baby, and I was like, you know,
in the eyes of hell. And he texted me and
he's like, I had a dream about you last night,
and you know exactly what that means.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
And I was like, exactly what I needed to hear
in this moment. And he is a family and I
have a family.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
But yeah, like twenty years later, he's like, I had
a dream about you and I was like, fuck, yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
We were in prison, Morgan Freeman was there. We would
kiss it. You know what I mean. You don't know
what I mean, Shasha Redemption it's a great movie. I
had to watch it again to be like, what is
this movie? And I was like, damn, oh, he does
get out. What is the film you most relate to?
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Helena yok Bridgie Jones Diary. Does anybody say that? I
can't believe that's not on the list of amazing. No
one said that. No one said that, And now you say,
I'm like, amazing, no one said that. For the sense,
I can't believe nobody say that. Also, how has nobody
said the Little Mermaid that's come up? Okay?
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Great, Yeah, Bridge Jones's Diary. It came out when I
was in high school. Yeah, I was in high school
and I had read the book and I loved the book,
and I was so excited about the film. And I'm
really sorry an American played her for all British people. However,
now only British people play Americans.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yeah, exactly, it's fair. They're like, where do we find
a hot straight guy.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
I guess Australia or English. Make them bang through an
accent real quick. I loved it. She was such a
mess and she was in love with like the two
guys that I was always in love with, because it
was Colin Firth from the original Pride and Prejudice, which
I'm a fan of all Pride and Prejudices, but it
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is the Joe Roland that makes me cry. And then
Hugh Grant, who was speaking of Jane Austen in Sense
and Sensibility and was so hot and good in that
and in everything and anyway, Oh, I was like, God,
she lives in this like little apartment, she's always dieting,
and then you know, falls in love with the wrong guy.
And basically it was Pride and Prejudice, and I loved
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and I was like, how funny that that caused Colin
for that's crazy Pride and prejudice and prime and prejudice
again basically.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
You know, so stupid.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
And that's one that I had the dvd. I would
like put on time and time.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
I love that movie, said this new one. I love
the sequel wildly underwrite Edge of Reason, the Edge of Reason.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
But then that should be your answer for like something
that's not critically acclaimed that you love.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
That's a that's a great answer for that. Yeah, so
we can answer. Yeah, big sequence where she does mushrooms,
big secuence in a women's prison. It's funny, that's right,
big big funny stuff in it. Yeah, we watched. Yeah,
you're right. It isn't a right. I forgot.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
She gets like she has up been a Thai prison
or something. Yeah, and like is there for months and
her like ex boyfriend has.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
To get her out. Yeah, they really go for it.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
I think what I was more annoyed at is that
like I'm a big fan, Like I'm very basic, and
then I'm like, give.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Me my happy ending baby.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
And then these sequel revealed that they broke up, and
I was like, I'm out.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
I was really mad that they broke up, right, Yeah,
what is the film that you thought was the sexy
was the sexiest thing? Okay, this border's on porn.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
This movie it came out in nineteen ninety eight and
it was called Dangerous Beauty.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
And it was with.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
No, no, no, that's it. Yeah, dangerous beauty, not American beauty.
That's not liv Tyler.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
No no, no, that's not tell me dangerous beauty.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Katherin McCormick rufus Suell is that how you sy Yeah?
And she plays a courtizen in like Venice or something,
and she has all these you know, pope clients and shit.
And he's like a sexy guy who falls in love
with her and ends up having to marry a sensible
(44:28):
girl and they stay in love and they the sex
scenes are so unbelievable and so romantic. It was such
a sexy movie. You should go watch it. It is
not well ranged. I looked it up. It is not
well loved, and was not well loved at the time,
and I do not understand why. What is psycho to
me is also that I'm like, you did not make
(44:49):
this for thirteen year olds, and yet it felt that
it was made for me at that time in my
sexual awakening, and maybe that's why I have such like
a firm memory that being the sexiest movie ever. I mean,
they're like, you know, it's like satin sheets and she's
a courtesan. She knows all this stuff about sex, and
she's really sexy, and she falls in love with him,
(45:10):
and like having to do her courtisan thing with like
these gross dudes becomes.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Like a little bit more difficult for her.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
It's so hot and he's I think he's such a
good actor and he's so good to I feel like
I'm selling it to you because you are sitting back
being like, bitch.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Why don't know? No, no, no, you really I'm like
annoyed I haven't seen it because it says right everything
you'll describe it like, oh.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
My god, and it's like and then there's this I like,
it's like burned in my brain, this like guy who's
a cardinal and gets like carried in and you're like,
oh god, these Catholic guys are such so fucked up,
and like they were having tons of sex with courtisans.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
I think it's called a courtisan.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
If you're no courtism, courtisan whatever point is hot fucking movie?
Speaker 2 (45:51):
All right? Dangerous it is. But there's a sub category
to this question traveling by and is worrying why don'tes
a found arousing? You went?
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Sure you sh I feel very much that all of
your questions are A how old are you Helena York?
And like b when did you go through peparty? Because
if you year stamp any of these, it's like, okay,
that hits like right at that point of your ADOLESCA when.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Did you and when did you hit puberty? That's the
that's really what right, That's.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
Really the question is like, yeah, you're like basically my doctor.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Mine is a center a pet detective extraordinary, So please
tell me This.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Sex scene with him and Courtney Cox in that movie
is to like eat.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
And it starts with like a headboard baying against the.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
Thing and like all the animals are watching them, and
I think it was like a hard cut, like they're
building tension between those two characters the whole time and
then they finally get it on and yeah, that's I
was discovering masturbation and I that's what I was talking
through a puberty doctor, And that's.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Really the one brilliant hasn't come up brilliant. I'm shocked.
I'm shocked that hasn't come up.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
A second theme from aspend to a pet detective, what
do people say?
Speaker 2 (47:16):
Like, what is a common answer for that? That's not
supposed to mermaids? Really a common answer would be one's answer,
perhaps M you know. An often common answer is oh,
I don't know, and I always think you fucking know.
People say I don't know? Yeah, some people, not many,
but there are, let's say, people who dodge the question
(47:38):
in a way that I find disturbing and very revealing.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
I just told you that that's when I was discovering masturbation.
So I'm the opposite of that problem. And again something
that would look troubling in print.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
The theme objectively objectively, what's the greatest film of all time?
Might not be your favorite? It's the great It's a
wonderful life? Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, what what is the
film that you could or have? What's the mist iver?
(48:10):
And over again Bridgie John's Diary? Is it?
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Yeah? I'm surprised that, Like, I'm surprised that what's the
most most like you?
Speaker 2 (48:18):
And that isn't usually the same answer it was.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
It came out at a time when I was like
becoming an adult, and it was about this adult woman
that didn't have it all together. And I was a teenager,
so of course I didn't have it all together, and
it just like it was.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Like a warm blanket.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
It made me feel like it was okay to be
kind of off, and.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
So I just watched it over and over and over again.
I loved it. I love that. Let's not be too
dark about this. But what's the worst film you've ever seen? Okay?
I'm surprised people have answers, because, like, why would you
even continue watching the worst movie you've ever seen?
Speaker 3 (48:53):
And the only reason you would continue watching the worst
movie you've ever seen is if you went to the premiere.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (49:04):
It's Cosmopolis. It was when Rob Pattinson had just done Yeah,
and he had just done and he's a brilliant artist,
Rob Pattinson, and he had just gotten done doing the
shitty Twilight Soga, which I love, but I think, like
I'm an artist. I want to be an artist, and
good for him, it did what it needed to do.
(49:24):
He's doing so many amazing films now, but he did
this movie Cosmopolis, and I fucking hated it.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
And stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
I think the entire movie is him in a limo.
It's like trying to do American Psycho, but he's just
in that limo. And then people like good actors and
or and like sometimes he gets out of the limit
to get coffee or whatever.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
But for the most part, he's just in that limo.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
No, And it was like all of the first premieres
I ever went to and I was like, I'm at
a premiere. You can't leave. And it was a MoMA
so it was in that basement movie theater.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
Yeah, wow, what did you say afterwards? I was to
see anyone from the film. Yeah, I think people from
I think he was there.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
No, I think I left with my friend who invited
me to go with her, and I was like, just
assumed that it had a premiere and I was there
and I was like, this is good. This is supposed
to be good. I'm supposed to like this. And I
left and I was like, that's that right.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
She was like I didn't like it, but again, like
I don't.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
I don't want to talk disparagingly about that movie. And
I also think as an actor, that was the smart
thing for him to be doing at that time, I'm
listen to me backpedal and like panic.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
Yes, it'sn't a quiet taste. I don't think it's a
bad film, but I do think it's not the easiest film.
And I can totally get why a lot of people
might not enjoy it. I don't that's a crime.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
I wonder if I watched it again, if I would
like appreciate what it was from like an art standpoint.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Do you know what I mean? Am I going to
make you do?
Speaker 5 (50:46):
That?
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Sends an email like you know what? Bruh I do?
And I can see it. It's beautiful, you know what,
It's beautiful. It's actually really beautiful. You're in comedy, very funny.
What's the film that made you laugh the most? It's
really said. All of my answers are British. We know
it wasn't a Spenturia. It was too busy to laugh
(51:10):
in that one.
Speaker 3 (51:11):
It is a Sventura but I exactly, but I already
answered a Spentura for a sexiest so I really.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
Didn't need to change my answer.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
And so my answer for made me laugh the most
is Austin Powers, the first Austin Powers.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
Yeah, it's so fucking funny.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
So fucking funny, and like all the subsequent ones whatever,
also so fucking funny, funny.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
Dangers my middle name, so good. Those are so good.
That one Oh I fell, Oh I fell? Oh, but
again it doesn't hold up.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
It is basically assault, but I loved it.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
Please no one printing out this interview. Elena, you have
been a trait, a delight, a wonderful, brilliant time. Thank
you for doing this. Would you like to tell anyone
to listen or watch things you have coming up? What
are they?
Speaker 3 (52:12):
Just watch the other two? Watch it until you die,
bitch it. If you haven't watched it start from the beginning,
you won't regret it. It does not take time to
get into it. It's also so funny. You know how
your friends You're like, oh, yeah, my friends, I need
them to watch and like see the things I do
to support me. But whenever I'm in something bad, I'm like,
you don't have to fucking watch that.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
This is one where I'm like, just watch it. You'll
enjoy it. Yeah, it's so nice. Exactly, You're like, no,
you'll actually like this. This isn't you do me a favorite? This?
You'll enjoy this? Yeah, I had somebody, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
I had somebody recently make me come to a play
that they were in that I was like, this is bad.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
You should have known that it would. Don't make me
come to that. Yeah. Yeah, don't see the stuff that
I did. That's not great, but this is great. The
other two. I agree. You should watch the other two
and any you're thank you. You have a wonderful death.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
So that was a rewind classic with Helene York. Be
sure to check out the Patreon page at patreon dot
com slash Brett Goldstein, where you get extra chat and
video at Various Tears and otherwise. If you fancy leaving
us a note on Apple podcasts, that would be lovely too,
but make it a review of your favorite film, much
more fun and way more interesting to read for everyone involved.
Thank you so much to Helene for greatness and presence
(53:30):
on the podcast. Thanks to Scrupier's Pipp and the Distraction
Pieces Network. Thanks to This is where Brett thanks me
for editing and producing the podcast so I will always
say it is a great pleasure. Thanks to iHeartMedia and
Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network for hosting it. Thanks
to Adam Richardson for the graphics and Lisa Lydam for
the photography. Season nine is bubbling away, as you saw
last week with an amazing episode with the directors have
(53:52):
talked to me and bring her back, so next week
could be a new one or perhaps another hand picked rewind.
But stay close to your podcasters and all will be revealed.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
But that is it for.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
Now, Brett and I and all of us films to
be buried with I hope you're all very well. In
the meantime, have a lovely week, take some deep breaths now,
more than ever, be excellent to each other.
Host
Brett Goldstein
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