Jamali Maddix (episode 139 rewind!) • Films To Be Buried With with Brett Goldstein #291 - Films To Be Buried With with Brett Goldstein

Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Walk Uplish Ship, very Weird free walk Glass.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Hello.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
My name is Buddy Peace. I'm a producer and editor,
a d J music maker, Atomic Dog, and for intro
and outro purposes, I'm temporarily standing in for your regular
host and proud creator of this particular podcast, mister Brett Goldstein.
As Royal Flush once said, drop toppin while the fed's
watching day on my back, heat me up like al

(01:17):
Pacino or Joe Peshi in Casino, but not both of
them together. In the Irishman that's like three and a
half hours long and who has the time? Never seen it,
mister Flush, But it's still half as long as Satan Tango.
Every week Brett invites a guest on, he tells them
they've died, and he talks to them about their life
through the medium of film. But this week we are
revisiting an earlier episode of the podcast while we take

(01:40):
an ever so quick break. Yes, indeed, it is that
time once more for a film to be buried with
rewind Classic. This rewind is from March twenty fifth, twenty
twenty one, originally episode one three nine, featuring comedian, writer,
host and podcaster Jamali Maddox. This is another mid pandemic episode,

(02:01):
but on this occasion we were a little deeper into
the routine of it all, and as you're hearing this
recording getting to the stage where a lot of us
were ready to get back on it and get back
to apologies for using the well worn phrase some semblance
of normality. We heard all about his show Hate Thy
Neighbor and the many varied scrapes that came along with
the making of it, his Taskmaster appearances, all sorts of

(02:24):
good comedy talk and process chat, and wrapped up in there,
we also heard about his harrowing near death experience on
the road in Southeast Asia. This episode is what they
call a roller coaster. Let me take this opportunity to
also remind you that Brett has a Patreon page for
the podcast, upon which you get a bonus section on
every episode with a secret from each guest, more questions,

(02:46):
and a video of each episode which looks all nice
and fresh. There are a selection of tears on there too,
and on the uppermost tiers. I will make you a
cinematic soundtrack mixtape each month with full track list that
I reckon you'll enjoy very much, So if you're a
supporting nature and feel like some extras from this show,
you'll find them all there. So that is it for now.

(03:06):
Let's get you settled in with a really fun look back,
a very enjoyable and also very real episode with the
always great Jamalley Maddox. All right, catch you at the
end for a quick sign off, But for now, please
enjoy episode one three nine via Episode two nine one
or Films to be Buried with.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Hello, and welcome to Films to be Buried With. It
is I Brett Goldstein and I am joined today by
a actor, a writer, a stand up a host, a documentarian,
a brave soldier of good, a hero, a legend, and

(03:54):
a vapor. Please welcome to the show, the brilliant Jamali Maddox.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, what's up, man, I appreciate Vapor the most.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, that was I left that till last. That's like
the pinnacle.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, I think that was the big crescendo. People like, yah, yeah, yeah, vapor. Fuck,
that's a real That's a real one right there.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
That's a real skill. Where's he learned that? Ship?

Speaker 1 (04:13):
And the actor is of Yeah. I mean, especially when
you're telling me, actor like you're a real actor you
know what I'm saying, Like, I just say a couple
of lines in Friends sitcoms badly.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Listen, that's acting.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
I heard that.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
I wanted to talk to you about a couple of things. Well, firstly,
how are you? You're right? How's your pandemic?

Speaker 1 (04:30):
I'm good both, you know what? Man, Like, I've sort
of it's sort of like the seven Stages of grief
if it's seven or whatever, they're how many stages? And
I'm at the point of acceptance now where I'm just like,
as long as there's food in my fridge. I started
saying things like that now like food in my fridge
and bills are page so you know, yeah, yeah, I'm fine,
but it's just fucking you know, I'm just ready to

(04:50):
get back to some type of normalcy. But then also
that weird feeling of not really remembering what that is.
I'm saying, like it's that I remember, but.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's yeah, no, I feel it. And I feel like
every time they say lockdowns over part of me gets
anxious and guys, but then, what what is it?

Speaker 1 (05:08):
What is life?

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Weird feeling, but yeah, you know, I'm good, but I'm solid.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Man, and I don't know if you've been thinking this
that I've been, you know, really missing gigs. But now
when I think about a gig, I'm like, my sort
of fear is that the audience are going to be
fucking rabid because they're all just going to be feral
because everyone's been locked inside. It's going to be like
our facts.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
It's going to be like Junglers in the early two thousand,
So it's going to be every gig is it's going
to be Jungler's Portsmouth, like every gig is, even like
a nicely like Sunday especially, is going to have extra
security that's very reference to the audience. But like, you know,
it's going to be it's going to be mad, I think,
I think. But you know, remember when the last lockdown ended,

(05:51):
when we had that little break. The audience has got
a lot younger, you know what I'm saying, which isn't
a bad thing, you know, and they it's like a
younger audience and it's sort of people up for it.
I think I think it will bounce back, hopefully. You know.
Comedy and Ship, Well.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
You made this show with Vice called Hate that Neighbor.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, which is really extraordinary. And the
reason I called you a brave self because you know,
you put yourself. I don't know how much security you
had around you. I don't know how it was made.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
None.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
We have none, none, And you put yourself deep in
extremist hate groups around the world, basically right, And I
guess my question what I generally like to know is
having done all that and seeing all the things you saw,
how often did you feel sort of like hopeless, like fuck,
these people are funck? This is so dark? And how
often did you feel empathy or understanding or like, oh

(06:41):
I see what's going on here and there is a
way out of this sort of thing, or was it
like how negative an experience was it?

Speaker 1 (06:48):
I guess, yeah, do you know what it's like this? Yeah,
because you know I thought about it. It was a
little while ago too, so I've kind of been able
to separate that time from now and at the time
when I'm making it, like if it sounds weird, but
I'm sort of in character, so I don't think as
much stuff in terms of empathy and stuff only when
I step away, or you know, fear and all that

(07:10):
type of stuff. You know, different things of the spectrum,
But it's not the hate groups that worry you because
they're the most extreme versions of an idea and they
are small. You know, for me to sit here and
tell you that you know, there's going to be another
actual Nazis with swastika's red swastika uprising, is I find
it very unlikely, you know. But the real worrying thing

(07:33):
is sometimes those ideas that you hear from the extremists
you hear in sort of much more digestible things in
normal people. You know what I'm saying though, Yeah, yeah,
so you know, just because I think what it is
is well we all, you know, any reasonable person can
hear about, you know, gassing Jews and go that is
fucked up, do you know what I'm saying. But that

(07:55):
extreme idea isn't the idea you have to worry about,
because that's so extremely even race as people go away,
that's sucking mad. But it's the sort of more some
of their ideas are quite mainstream in terms of stuff
you hear every day that is wrong, and that's worrying something.
It's those sort of things that they sort of some

(08:16):
of their beliefs believes that I hear from people every day,
and that's what that's that's that's what I go. Yo,
that's fucked up, you know, because it just shows you
how hate can grow and how these ideas sort of
snowball into much bigger ideas and sort of go more extreme.
So it's like, you know, but in terms of actually
just normal conservatism and stuff, you kind of don't sort

(08:38):
of think about it, or sort of normal liberalism. I
sort of saw the most extreme ends of the left
and the right. So it's kind of like I don't
get too swept up and go, oh my god, it's
all crazy, because it's like, you know, we you know,
if we're being honest, it's TV. We suck. We you
go and try and find the people that have the
most extreme ends of that view. So if you know,

(08:58):
so in that sense, you don't get that.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, do you keep in touch with any of them?

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Do you know what? There's been a handful that I've
seen after the show. There's a couple I ran into.
There's one I saw at a music festival, right, It's
when I saw a music festival. He was. It was
an episode where we went to Berkeley University where it
was about three speeches where myloon Unopolis was going to
speak at Berkeley, and the guy I saw was he

(09:24):
was a part of the conservative group that brought him in, right,
you know, there was like I remember him, and he
was like I didn't dislike the guy, you know he
had for Really there's this one bit where basically he's
been given these flyers by Milo and he's he's a conservative,
but he's pretty you know, he's pretty normal dude. You know,
he's just like a young Asian guy. I think it's
that maybe East age and I think it's like Indian

(09:44):
and he's like a young Indian guy and you know
twenty one lights rave music, but was just physically conservative
and joined this group anyway. So he got given these
flys by like Mylo Eunopolis and they just said things
like anti anti for and you know, just everything was
like it was crazy, and it was just his face
as he opened it and went, oh no, he's brought

(10:09):
this guy in, so it's like he's responsible now and yeah,
then all you see is me and kind of just
go that fucked laughing saying you're fucked, Like I couldn't
stop laughing. And I saw him at a music festival
and he came up to me and you know, you
know he was he was a figure I figure was

(10:30):
on Molly. He gave me like a a un and that,
and he was like he actually thanked me. He was like,
you know, I appreciate that he sort of was. He
wasn't too unfair with me. And I saw another person
who was a trans woman, so she was a man
transitioned into a woman and then basically was anti trans
and anti feminist. And I saw her at a convention

(10:54):
and she came up to me said hello. You know,
so the ones I've seen have been fine, like and
you know the ones that and one of the Black
Israelites who with the Black Spiritual Nationalist group before the
white man was the devil and stuff. He messaged. He
messaged me. He messages me now and again on Facebook
and he'll say shit like he still says like he
was messaged me saying the white man still the devil

(11:15):
and shit like that. You know. So a couple of
them still staying, still reach out and say hello and stuff,
because I think they kind of appreciated that, even like
I was upfront with them. I would tell them from
the jump, I don't agree with anything you say. I
think you're crazy you know what I'm saying. And I
always said to them that I will take the piss
out of your ideas. But I'm not going to say
you're fat, or I'm not going to take the piss

(11:36):
out of the fact that you're old or you know
what I'm saying, But your ideas, I'm going to take
the piss out because I think it's stupid. And they
kind of and I stuck to my word on that,
you know, I mean, I think they kind of appreciated that,
some of them, I mean someone of the just fascist,
but there's sort of less crazy ones.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
How often were you thinking I'm in too deep, this
is scary.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
No, never, you just kind of I mean, there was
a couple of sticky moments, like you know, because I
mean you're in America, certain states, and there's just things
like people have guns, you know what I'm saying. And
you know, there's one where we interviewed this guy. It
never went to air, but we interviewed this guy who
was like a sort of one percenter where they're like
kind of they don't believe in the government, and shit,

(12:15):
I don't know what the miscommunication was. I don't know
if it was one of the producers had told him
something different or if he was just talking shit. But
I started asking about the one percent, and he was like,
you're not here to ask me about that. You're here
to ask me about hunting. And I'm like, why the
fuck you think I want to ask you about hunting?
Like but he had blocked so just the way his
car was parked, he has blocked usin. He's got a

(12:38):
gun and he's mad, you know what I'm saying. And
it's ship like that where you go man, like, you know,
you have to de escalate that situation because those situations
can heat up so much where you know, something happens,
someone pushing someone, you know, punching and then someone shoots someone.
Like it's just it. Shit happens like that, you know.
And I'll say, but the one that was the one
where I was like it is the only time where

(12:59):
I was like, yo, this is a situation that I
shouldn't be in was when I went to the White
How Music Festival in Ukraine FU and they was like,
dude stabbing each other, like I saw a guy stabbing
on the guy in the head, like this guy was that.
They were like pushing each other like wash pitting. Then
one of the guys hit the guy and I guy
this way year like that, and then we heard on

(13:21):
the tannel. It was something in Ukrainian and I said
what what did the guy say on the tannel? And
he was like, oh, the guy said, can everyone please
put away their knives? And there was a guy standing
next to me had a knife and he went But
that was yeah, that was the one time where I
was like yo, and people were fucking mad. I was there,
like they were not happy.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Were you given any any like training with hand in
terms of de escalation and stuff? No, no, no, no,
I'm interested. You say you have to de escalate it, like,
what's your technique of de escalation?

Speaker 1 (13:55):
What the thing is as well is you know, I'm
not fucking I'm not a superman, just so I'm saying,
I oh, fucking tough guy. But you know, like I
grew up in a ship whole area, and you just
know how to carry yourself. You know what I'm saying though,
And like so it's like when I went to the
White Power, when I went to this clan rally. Once
I went to a clam bar and they were like
burning across and they tried to intimidate me, and I

(14:17):
just stood my ground like above, you know, and they
were trying to like, you know, they were saying how
they were going to try to lynch me and all
this type of ship like in my ear shot, and
I just stood my ground and I just you know,
I didn't budge, and I said about nowhere, this is
I'm here. If you've got issue with that, then you
gotta do what you gotta do. And when I was leaving,
the one of them had the mics on and he
was like, you know what, I don't like that, but

(14:38):
he's got some boosts. Yeah, like they like me. They're like,
b we've got boo get into him. But he came
to the bell the beace, so he weren't. Weren't you
just realizing, you know, having humor and all that type
of stuff, Because there was a couple of times where
people try and test you. I mean, there was one
time where I said something about a present. I think

(15:00):
I was even joking about it, but I said something
and then one of the guys said to the guy,
you know, I went to this. It's sort of like
you know, like where they did a bullfighting and ship
and the rodeo and then one of the guys was like, yeah,
I told a couple of guys what you said, and
they said this, and I said, you can tell them.
They can come talk to me about it, you know
what I'm saying, Like, you know, and then that's what
because they're just testing you. They're not really going to

(15:22):
do nothing to you. It's just to testing you and
they're seeing where you're at. And if you just you know,
it's not like being violent or being tough and being like,
well I'll fight off with you, like you know what
I'm saying, that's stupid. It's just that you're going to
be like, okay, well you know you're going to do
what you're going to do, you know what I'm saying.
And as well, would you realize as well, is that
you know they're on camera and no one ain't really
going to do that you want camera, even like the

(15:42):
one where the d L where you know that it
looked like, you know, he was trying to fight me,
to be honest with you, but he weren't going to
do nothing, you know what I'm saying, Like it just
worn't you know what I'm saying. He had ample opportunity
to do something he didn't. You know what I'm saying,
This is the reality of what's going to happen and
what does happen is two different things.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
The last thing on this, you know, mind, is with
any of them, with any of these extremists, in your
conversations with them, did you ever feel like you changed
their mind or you affected them with your or was
it always just nah?

Speaker 1 (16:13):
I mean people like to go back to the Nazi
one where I'm talking to the Nazi guy, and what
it is is I had found out that this Nazi
guy had a kid with a Native American woman before
he was a Nazi. So I was basically saying to him, well,
your kids are the thing that you're against. You know
what I'm saying, That your own flesh and blood that

(16:34):
you say you love is the thing you hate. How
does that conflict with you? And he sort of thought
about it. He'd never thought about it like that before,
and he goes, Okay, you know, I never thought about that.
But then you hear the news, and you know, he
had basically become a lot more now he's the leader,
you know what I'm saying. So I think I think
I think that, Yeah, I think that's that's what you do, though,
you either double down who you don't. And I think

(16:56):
you know, you know, I didn't go in there to
change anyone's belief. I'm not fucking you know. That's not
why I was there either. I don't think you and
I think people were. They're so wrapped up in their
own things and they're selling their own bubble of what
it is they believe. Because you think what they believe in,
everyone around them believes that. All of their fucking social
media projects that at them, you know. And I think

(17:17):
it happened because remember when I was researching for the show,
my YouTube algorithms thought I was far right wing and
all they would do is send me far right wing stuff.
You know what I'm saying though, So all of my
videos now that I was getting you might like, this
is fucking maybe the Holocaust didn't happen video? Do you
know what I'm saying? And so was wow, man, Like,

(17:39):
so I can see I can see from an outside
of how it happens, how these you know, I think
echo chamber and all these words and words I get
thrown around a lot and not really understand. And I
don't really understood what that was, but it's real man, right,
you know, it's so fucking real man, where you can
do it and it's like both sides too, you know, yeah,
that's all weird thing you've got to do now nowadays
you go so both sides too, but you know it's

(18:00):
both the SuDS. But you know that was that was that.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Man fascinating, all very interesting and on a very similar
vein you're now doing Taskmaster. Congratulations.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
I mean, do you know what, man like? I think
I think that you know, you should go carry on
doing the hard hitting stuff, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, you've got a brand, did you sticking with it
and said.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
I've got a brand and you know, I know what
my people want. But you know what, man like, it's
just after that show, I was so willing because all
the things I got offered was is all right, look
what we're going to do is we're going to put
you in a coat and you're going to enjoy it.
And it's like I don't want to, I really, you know.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
I want to throw a potato in a whole.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. And it's that weird thing of it,
and it's like, you know, not to take it too seriously,
but in terms of career. You know, I just realized
I didn't want that for my career. So you know,
it's a hard choice because you've got to I'm going
to turn down a lot of work and maybe shit
at home for a bit, sit on the bench for
a little bit, waiting for another project that I want

(19:00):
to do. You know what I'm saying, no, because you
can get yeah, because I ended up sucking, you know,
I up doing another documentary series and it's just, you know,
looking back on it, my heart probably wasn't as in
it as much as it could have been, you know,
and there were so many issues with it, and it's
just like, you know, and I had actually been offered
something else that I think I wanted to do more
and I should have learned the other thing. But you know,

(19:21):
you sort of show this is that weird thing where
you're sort of like, you know what, it's your own
show and you gotta and you go, yeah, but I'm
happy just to be a reoccurring character in this thing
that I kind of like, you know what I'm saying now, Yeah, yeah,
So you know.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah, have you started to ask mas you filmed it?
Have you done it?

Speaker 1 (19:38):
It was filmed this it's coming out in the sixteenth
of March.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Was it fun?

Speaker 1 (19:43):
It was. It's a fun fucking show man. It's just fun.
It's just silly, and it's runs because they've done so
many seasons, they know how to make that show. So
it's just smooth, you know what I'm saying. There's no like,
no problems occur, and it's just and it was just fun.
And then just I'm a comedian first, and I think,
you know, it's I kind of stopped doing Silly Ship
for a long time, and there's a lot of fun

(20:04):
and cilly, you know what I'm saying, And I'm enjoying that.
I enjoyed doing that, man, Like I really it was
like a nice pace and I think, I think, and
I hope people like it, you know what I'm saying,
because I know it's like such an institution for people
like I. You know, my my whole joke is when
I'm in character, it's that whole kind of thing of like,
you know, and I don't really care. So I sort
of wrote this tweet saying, like, you know, I'm on

(20:25):
task Master, giving minimum effort, like just you know, and
people are messaging me saying, please don't ruin this for me.
You know the pressure of that, and you go bro
like people fucking love that.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Sh yeah, you know it.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Then it was a good crew, you know me Ye, Charlote,
Richie Leemac, Mike Bosniak, Sarah Kendall, so lot, some great people,
fun show. You know, had a good time.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Man, did you learn anything about yourself where you're like, fuck,
I'm far more competitive than I thought, or you're.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, one hundred percent, Like there's one there's
one bit. And it was like towards the end of
it's like, because when you normally do like panel shows,
I'm gonna give a little secret to your fans here
is I've done panel shows. I don't know I've done
ten panel shows. Maybe I don't know I've done. I
can't tell you how many I've won and lost. The

(21:16):
points mean nothing, something like literally, I cannot tell you
if I've ever won a panel show. That one is
the one where you actually care. Yeah you know what
I'm saying. And then at one point where I'm like,
you know, and it was too far in the game,
and I started like arguing and I had to catch
myself and I was like, I'm so sorry. I went
a bit mad there and ERE like, no, that's all right,
I don't I don't know. I went mad and I

(21:37):
was like no, but like and you'm gonna give him
a point? And I was like what to catch myself?
I was like, I'm so fucking sorry. I don't know
what happened to me. I went fucking crazy for a seron.
And it done that to you many, especially when you're
around competitive people and ship and you know. But yeah,
it was also fun, show man.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
That's great. I've forgotten to tell you something.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Fuck, I should have told you this in the in
the beginning, or at least when we're emailed. I should
have let you know. Yeah, I'm just gonna have to
say it now, and I hope that you're gonna be
a kind of it. But yeah, okay, well, just you've died.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
You're dead? What? Yeah, this is the this is like
the afterlife?

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, yeah, tell me how did you die?

Speaker 1 (22:23):
I mean obviously probably in a in a drive by.
Probably I got taken by the streets, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah? It was so inevitable. You know, you didn't put
enough effort in in someone.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Someone and the hard shoots of reading damn, but this
is it.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yeah, do you worry about.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
I've nearly died so many times that I've nearly died
a lot a lot of times, really, yeah, like proper
near death experiences the other ones. I say. I had
one massive near deaf experience and that kind of changed
my perspective on death for a lot where the other ones
were so basically long story, shoot, I'm going to Australia

(23:08):
to do some shows, but before I go Australia, I
do some shows in Asia because it's sort of somewhat
from Asia to Australia is like maybe you know, ten hours,
and then from England. So you I think, fucklet me divide.
I've never been Asia, and I want to see Asia.
You know the money and you're making big money in
them areas, but you know, it's fuck it. So I
got Indonesia first, and I'm feeling kind of weird, but

(23:30):
I'm like, oh, it's jetlag. And I get to Bangkok
and I'm feeling just like bad and ills. I'm like, bro,
I'm I to go, like I need to go doctors maybe,
And basically I wake up, I go downstairs and I
just black out right. I just collapse on the floor
and they come let the total rush up to me,
and the just like, yo, where are you at? Like

(23:50):
you're right, and I'm just like yeah. They're like, we'll
get you a tiktook, right. So when the back of
this tiktook, I go to the hospital and the nurse
or the doctor puts a thing in my mouth and
nose and says, oh, you've got influenza, like you've got
the flu. And I'm like, are you sure, and she's like, nah,
every time you think you have the flu, you have
a cold, this is the fluit. And I'm like, all right, cool.

(24:11):
So I went and did a show, right. I actually
went and did the show, and then I come back
and I'm still feeling fucked up, right, And then basically
I go back to my yard. I'm going to sleep,
but as I'm going to sleep, I feel like that
my heart is being like grabbed and clawed, and I
can feel myself blacking out and I'm sweating and I'm

(24:32):
sweating buckets bull and I can feel myself I can't breathe,
and I'm like, fuck, I'm going and I couldn't. And
it's that weird feeling of falling asleep and lose, and
it's like it's not even like falling asleep. It's more
like losing a grip where your eyes are open, but
it's like a black hole is closing up, and I'm like, yo,

(24:52):
like I'm going. And I remember texting my mom because
I basically the hotel the guy put me in with shit,
so I put my own hotel and no one knew
where I was, so I had to text her like yo,
because because you know, let's be real, not to be whatever,
but you can go missing, you know what I'm saying.
It's just one of them places you could go, you're
missing them. And my heart is just fucking fit, and
I'm sweating buckets and I'm feeling the idea of fighting it.

(25:14):
And I saw all these flashes a gun in my head,
and I had this weird full in my head that
when I was young, if you would have told me
when I was twenty two that I was going to
die in a hotel in Bangkok, I would have gone
at twenty seven. I would have gone half yere. But
I just had this idea that I didn't want to die,
but I can't stop myself, and that I'm not ready

(25:34):
to go, but there's nothing I can do about it.
And I wasn't at peace with it, do you know
what I'm saying? And that was the horrifying part, is
the fact that you feel like you're dying, but you're
there's no peace, there's no good feeling, there's no just like, Okay,
this is my time, let's go. I just felt like
I didn't want to go, so I blacked out, woke

(25:55):
up in like a puddle of mount sweat, and I've
gone to the hospital and then the guys like, yeah,
I think you got influenza. But I made sure I've
got all these I've got fucking I've got sdi chet,
I got everything, and the guy's like, I don't know.
Gone back to my hotel, still feeling fucked up, blacked
out again, went back to the hospital and then the
doctor's like, nah, we'll put you in the room. They

(26:17):
put me in a room, and the doctor's coming the
next day and she goes basically, put this mask on.
You have measles, you have influenza too, and your lungs
of hemorrhaged. So my whole lungs are filling out with blood.
And it was just and they put me in this
quarantine where they put me in this little room in Bangkok,
so none of the nurses speak English, and I can't

(26:38):
express to them how I feel like I'm burning up.
And I remember I had this dream that I'm in
Hell and it's sort of like you know that seeing
in the matrix where it's like they're in like having
a party, like the big cave thing. It felt like that,
but it was like a jungle rave. There's this jungle
music playing like jungle and it's just sweating, and it
was so vivid with the heat on my skin where

(27:01):
I was just where my lungs are hemorrhaging and I'm
so hot that I basically I've started getting what's the
what's the word called delusion? Is the delusion? You know
the word.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Right, yeah, hallucinations.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
I started doing that. I started getting hallucinations and the doctor,
so when I asked the doctor, she was like, no, no,
you're fine. And then someone had to fly over to
bring me back. And the doctor said to them like, look,
you know, he would have he would have died if
he didn't come. He would have gone because he's lungs
were enorrhaging too much and he would have he would
he wouldn't have made it. If he would have stayed
another couple of nights, he wouldn't have made it. And yeah,

(27:37):
I fucked me up man like that really, like you know.
And then I got home and I couldn't see, like
I went blind. And the reason I went blind was
is because I was so dehydrated that my corne is cracked.
Like That's how I lost in like in a week
or that I probably lost like a stone away. And
then I took a week off and I won Australia, baby,

(28:00):
you know it, and I went Australian. Man, I was
so fucking chest infection, I slept the whole fight that.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Wow, So you so you imagined Hell as like the
Matrix Revolutions or yeah, in a cave with jungle music.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
No, it doesn't sound bad at all, but it was
just this weird Yeah, it was just like this jungle.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
It was just so hot, right, it was so hot.
That's why you knew it was Hell.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah, there's no war. We might not be in the hell.
We might have just been a fucking sick jungle rave.
It might have been a sick squad rave. And that
I was saying, I'm like squad rave in the hell
that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
What so what do you think happens when you die?

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Now?

Speaker 2 (28:37):
What do you how do you think?

Speaker 1 (28:40):
I don't know, you know, like I thought of, I
thought of play with many ideas like I don't. I
don't believe in those sort of organized religion like an anything,
a bramming or anything like that. I believe that the
facts of what happens to you, for me is sort
of comfort enough. The fact that I die and I
go back into the earth and then I make life again,

(29:03):
that's that for me gives me comfort enough. Like I
don't think I need to go somewhere with pearly gates
and white flowers seeing my grandma like you know, But
the fact that I go in the ground and I
make life again, you know what I'm saying, and truly
just carry on with the cycle of what this is
is sort of enough for me. Yeah, I think I
think you know, you just you just you just go
back to wherever you came from.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Really, and that's it amazing.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
You know, you live this life as much as you can,
then you're sucking. Then then you go and that's it
so fucking about, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (29:33):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
After all, that's too deep for this podcast. Man.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
No, no, that's exactly right, that's exactly right.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
All right, well.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Too, I just like that. After all, your travels are
the one with extremist groups. Your your view of death
is the same as a racist, say, go back to
where you came from, the.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
White because I about Africa. I got to Africa and
the yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah, No, I love that. That's beautiful. What I will
say is you may be disappointed to find there is
a heaven. Actually, and your grandma is there?

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Oh oh god, I mean you know, good all my
grandmother are alive.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Actually, well this one is. I got more news for you.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Oh you haven't heard.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
It's a heck of a day. Anyway. This heaven's great,
you'll love it. Lots of good gigs, no flu or
measles or exploding lungs. But in this heaven they won't
know about your life. But they won't know about your
life through films. And the first thing they want to
ask you is what is the first film you remember seeing.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
The first film I remember seeing is a bootleg Pirate video.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yes please?

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Or Aladdin?

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Nice?

Speaker 1 (30:52):
And I remember it was Pirates. So we see the picture.
And back in the day VHS pirates, they ain't like
the pirates. Now these were VHS pirates. So the quality was.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Was it filmed in the cinema?

Speaker 1 (31:04):
No, no, no, no, no, it wasn't. It wasn't a
film in cinema, Like it was just like duplicated, right,
you know what I'm saying, because this was maybe fuck
this was but I was going to be free. So
the film probably had just come out. But to buy
the original VHS would have cost you like ten to
fifteen pounds twenty quick. We didn't have that, so you
could get the three pound one. And what it would

(31:24):
be is it would probably just be someone who got
the original tape and duplicated it so much that the
picture quality went terrible.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
And then photocopied the picture right and slip that in
the sleeve.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah yeah, yeah, photo copy that you got damn right, bro,
you got down right? You know what I'm saying. Like,
because back in the day, how my grandma used to like,
my grandma had mad videos, and the videos there would
be that she just recorded the movie on TV. So
you get the VHS and you record the movie on TV.
So sometimes she would forget to press stop on the record.

(31:56):
So you have all them old adverts.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
O great, so.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
It'll be like by the Citron one and ship and
it would just be like it'd be weird to watch
all these old adverts of all these you know I'm saying.
But yeah, Like so my grandma would have all these
videos of where she recorded movies on the vhs.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Do you have siblings, Yeah, I got I've got three sisters.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Oh wow, which order are you? Where do you finish?

Speaker 1 (32:17):
I'm the second.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
So were you watching Aladdin with your sister, older sister?

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Yeah, my older sister. I was watching Aladdin with my
older sister. Yeah, cause my baby my mom worked a lot,
so I would be at my grandma's and my grandma's
would come to my house like she basically like every
day I saw my grandma like kind of raised us
on that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, So it was watching Aladdin
and my Grandma's was probably like my first memory. Now,
we watched that video to the fucking Bitch fell apart. Man.

(32:43):
That's all you would do is watch that video, bro,
just every day or he's sticking that tape or we're
watching that we just hit that rewind. It weren't like
DVD was instant. You have the old that bitch Dad,
you know what I'm saying now, we watched the hell
out of that tape. But no, that was that was
That was probably my first one.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
That's not a bad first one. What's the film that
made you cry the most? Are you a crier?

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Now? I don't do you know what? I don't cry
at films, but my mom is a mad like my
mom will cont like I saw my mom cry so
much in my life for movies that her tears me
nothing anymore. Like I'm desensitized to my mom's tears, like
it's just she But all she did was crying films. Yeah,
and I just never really got it. There's a couple
of films that like I still had that man, oh

(33:30):
that's a bit, you know. And the one that did
it for me lately, which is a weird one was Logan. Logan,
but that bit where he goes when he's like he's
dying and then he just goes, this is what it
feels like. Man, that ship, That ship got me. I
didn't cry, but I was. It really got to me, man,
Like I don't know what because it's just the film was.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
So that you've been there.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
I've been there. I've been there, I know where it
feels like. But it's just like the film as well,
is there something about How can I put it without
sounding so it's because it's hard to justify one saying
the thing about because that character is one of my
favorite type of characters to watch. And I'm not even
into westerns that much, but that sort of cowboy motif.
I like the anti hero. I like the guy who
does things wrong but has a good heart, you know

(34:16):
what I'm saying, Like that hero, Like my favorite comic
book hero is Punisher, Like I just I love you
know what I'm saying, Or I love that that character,
like that character that's always like got to me, Like
you know, I love Preacher, like Jesse Custer and Preacher,
Like I love those characters that's sort of anti heroes
and sort of like, you know what I'm saying, get
the job done and they might do some wrong, but

(34:36):
you know, their heart's in the right place. And to
sort of have that storyline and then at the end,
this sort of man's man you know what I'm saying,
breaks down because he's dying. He finally finds that feeling
that he's been looking for but can't let himself have,
and only in his final moments, it's just fucking that
shit has got to men and she turns out. She
turns that crossing to the X.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Oh my god, that film a masterpiece. That of Him
is fucking brilliant. It's so good.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
I think that's one of the best superhero films ever
made personally, like and people always say to me, what
I got mad that film is beginning to end, just
fuck it, and it's like, you know, it's a bad film.
When they released the nouir version, you know what I'm saying,
But that's some artistic ship. But when they have to
release it in black and white for you, bro, you
know what I'm saying, That that's how you don't But
that was just that ship like a cold Western man.

(35:24):
That shit was just like, you know, the action's great.
Storyline is great. You know what I'm saying. It's got
enough of that not cheese, but it's got enough of
that superheroy kind of thing that you I like in
my superhero films, you know what I'm saying. Because I'm
a big comic book guy, you know what I'm saying.
So I love all that type of stuff. But it's
just it was such a unique take on a character
that's so known, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yeah? Do you cry in real life? Or do just
don't cry?

Speaker 1 (35:49):
I haven't cried in a long long time. Still, I'm not.
I'm not. I'm not like one of them do like,
I don't cry, you know what I'm saying. Like, I've
had some experiences where I have. You know what I'm saying,
I'm gonna lie, but I don't. I don't. It's not
my go to emotion.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Now, what about fear? What's the film that scared you
the most? Do you like being scared? And do you
get scared?

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Do you know what film? Do you know? I'm not
a big fan of horrors? The one film I remember
when I was a kid because basically I was at
my dad's moms. Now this is my other grandma, and
it's basically around my grandma's house. The would be all
of our cousins would be there because I've got like,
on my dad's side, my family's huge, Like I've got
like I think I've got like maybe thirty first cousins
and all of them have kids and then some of

(36:28):
them have kids you know what I'm saying. So I've
come from a big family on my dad's and my
dad's got like seven my dad's got six sisters and
three brothers and jummy and they've all got three four
kids and shit, and so all of my cousins would
be at my grandma's little house and that. And I
remember it was late late. It must have been. I
mean I say late, I'm so saying I'm about seven eight,

(36:50):
and it's like I say late, it's probably like maybe
ten forty. I remember they put exorsistem man. That shit
fucked me up man. And another film that Another thing
that sucked me up was the goose Bumps movie. That
ship fucked me up man, that do And I know

(37:10):
this isn't a movie, but the Goosebump TV show. There's
one episode of Goosebumps I couldn't watch the day, that's
how scary it was. It was like this girl she
gets transported into a snow globe. And when she gets
into the snow globe, it's like this normal town, but
everyone just has pig masks on and they don't say anything.
They just chase her, right, and the whole the whole
half an hour. Is this girl just running for her life?

(37:33):
Why these people with pig masks just ominously look at
her and just running. Bro, That messed me up. It's
the fact that they don't say nothing. Yeah, it's just
they just see her and they will have these really
messed up pig masks and they just start chasing her
down the road and then she's just running this and
this is her. It's just it's just a white girl

(37:54):
running for half an hour. And it's one of the
scariest things a little seen in my life.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Man, what is the film that people don't like? It's
not critically exclaimed, but you love it unconditionally. You think
everyone's an idiot.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
There's a thing called Love Don't cost a thing, right,
and it's got Nick Cannon and Christine Million, right, and
Steve Harvey plays the dad. Yeah, when I told you
this film, I love this film. So it's like it's
that it's the basic premise of the guys in high school.
Nick Cannon, who's obviously thirty at the time, he's in

(38:28):
high school and he's like a nerdy kid, and then
he basically pays Christy Million, who's like the popular girl,
to like pretend to be his girlfriend so he can
become more popular or something like that. But she fools
in love. Yeah, but obviously, man, I don't know what
it is about that film, but I love that film, man,
just I just I just love it. I remember one

(38:50):
time I went my boy and with good I said
to me, old Bom you love Don't Cost the Fit, Bro,
I fucking love that film. But like, we like what
you like that film?

Speaker 4 (38:59):
Do you keeping it so secret that we loved this film?
But we loved that he goes that's fo sick though,
That's love Don't Cost the film with Christy Miller and
Nick Cannon. Honestly, probably one of the you know, there's.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
A few there's that. I'm not really into romantic stuff films,
you know what I mean. I got burnt on that.
I remember not that long ago a girl made me
watch Notebook. That film is one of the most depressive
fucking films I have ever seen in my life. I
hated that film. I was mad at for showing me that.
I was like, why would you show me this? But

(39:36):
this is so you're telling me they die John, I'm saying,
but they're so hurt that she can't she got it
was that felm me so scary. I googled our Silence.
I googled how not to get our simnst. That's how
much that films from you. I was googling how to
prevent the menta.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
That's the film that's scared device.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah, that film there, that film, that film maybe ye
do you know what? Let me go back on that one.
No book film scared me the most. Like, I've never
had a film that made me google how not to
get dementia. But I'm out here eeing golgie berries now
out of fear that I would lose my memories. I
gonna lose my memories, bro, Like that's so terrifying. But yeah, sorry,

(40:18):
loved don't cross the field because in terms of romantic films,
it's not my favorite because there's one there's one character
in a romantic film or a love interest that I
think is so underrated. I think it's the best depiction
of a love interest in any film ever made. Right,
And to this day, I'm pissed. You never want to
Oscar right mini driver in good Will Hunting is the

(40:39):
best love interest in the film ever made. And you can't,
no one can, no one can change my mind on
that but and that film she plays the perfect role.
She plays that role perfectly, like there is no there
is no love interest that I was so rooting for
in that film, because in any for any other film
like that love interest is like because she was funny.

(41:02):
She was because sometimes I watch a film when I've
seen a love interest and I'm like, are you trying
to make me buy into the fact that a woman
that don't matter about all the hardships you would go through,
but you'd still be with her? Like I don't buy
into it. So I'm like, she's just kind of yeah,
but her in that film, And it's not because she's
a beautiful woman. It's not bad even her looks. It's

(41:23):
just the personality loses out that role. You know what
I'm saying. She beats Christy million. If Christy million it
was in love don't cost a thing, you would have
had many that you would have had that poster.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
I'm loving this was the film that you used to love,
but he watched it recently and you do not like
it anymore. Street Fighter the movie, great answer, the perfect.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
When I was a kid, there weren't a better film
than Street Fighter, the movie I was like, Yo, this
film is so bad. Yeah, like You've Got the You've
got the Guy with the Light. Oh. I love that
film when I was a kid, and I watched it recently,
I'm like, yo, this is honestly probably the worst film
ever made. But when I was a kid, that was
that was a great film. But purposeful, Yeah, really good,
know what I'm saying. Kylie Kylie Yeah, Van dam Kylie

(42:07):
min and a bunch of actuals. Oh. There's one guy
where if you saw his face, recognize him, but I
can't remember reason him. He plays, he prays the last spot,
he plays the big boss. I can't remember. But anyway, Yeah,
but man, and you see blanker blankers like the green
the guy does the electricity. His character looked fucking awful
in that movie, man, Like the makeup is terrible. And

(42:28):
that's that big budget too. That was no low budget movie.
You know what I'm saying. But that that film's probably
I think one of the one of the films that
as a youth I loved it. You know, it's one
of them films where you would love it in your youth,
but as you get older, you kind of film, yeah,
kind of you look for different things. At that point,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
What's the film that means the most to you? Not
necessarily the film itself is any good, but because the
experience you had seeing it will always make it special
to you.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
I'd probably say eight Mile. I'd say eight Mile for
one reason, and there's another reason where it's like I'm
more conflicted about it because of this like loosing it
because it's one of them weird things. Well, at the
first I think eight Mile because I remember when I
was a youth. One of the things I would do
as a kid is when I go to my dad's
on the weekend, he would we would go Hackney Marsh

(43:15):
Hackney Market, and we would buy a video, like a
pirate video, and he would go back to his house
and he would make us fried chicken or lazagna or
wrote like the only things he would make is spagheti brodonneise,
fried chicken or asagna. And as we got all that
we realized because they were cheap to make, but back
then we.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Loved it, like yeah to that restaurant, Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
And then we'd watch a video and I remember eight
Mile was the one I always wanted to watch, like
like I remember this that time kind of reminds me
of that time and another film that kind of resonated
with me a lot when I saw it, But it's
kind of one of them things now is because he's
got Kevin Spacey, so I understand the context of that,
but you know, just if just the film alone, you know,

(43:57):
if I was being honest, there would be American beauty.
I remember watching that young. I remember I Got fucking
Baked man. I was like so high when I watched it.
And I remember my college too. I was like, yo,
watch this film in it and it was just that
there was something that resonated with me about a guy
who had stuff but said, fuck it, I don't want

(44:19):
this life anymore. You know what I'm saying, Like this
isn't for me anymore. And I don't know what it
was that resonated with me, but it's just that thing
of like, even though this is what everyone's telling me
I want, I don't want this, you know what I'm saying.
I remember that storyline really hitting me and really just
that freness of him being like I don't want it,
but this is this is this is what everyone told

(44:40):
you they want. I don't want it. You know what
I'm saying. I think there's something real freeing about that
and it was something that really hit me when I
saw that as I fun and that's like, you know
what I'm saying, it's really I really thought that was
real deep.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Yeah, yeah, what's the film you must relate to?

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Jo? It sounds crazy and my life wasn't like that,
But there's real elements of kids the film kids that
I kind of get, you know what I'm saying, Just
that sort of like being young and trying to be
a man or what you think a man is, you
know what I'm saying, especially around your friends and sort
of how you view things and sort of like trying

(45:15):
to deal with adult things but still with an adolescent mind. Yeah,
do you know what I'm saying. Now, So you're trying
to deal with these real adult things that are coming
at you in life when sort of when you when
you grow up certain ways or in certain places, adult
situations come to you a lot earlier than people that
grew up in other places. You know, you're sort of
exposed to a lot a lot earlier, so you have

(45:38):
to deal with those concepts and those you know, those
those not hurdles, but those themes in life that are
going to come at you, whether it be you know,
you know, sex, violence, all these type of things, and
how you've got to deal with that. But then also
you're a kid, and it kind of reminds me of
you know, late night deal with my friends and sort

(45:59):
of really you know, like I mean, one on one
thing that really resonates that one thing I remember when
I watched that film. A real coming to age moment
for my life was the first day I just roamed
the streets. We had nowhere to go, we had nice
to do, but we left the house at twelve and
we weren't coming back to ten. And that was the

(46:19):
whole day where there's bomping up and down streets. Yo,
let's go knock round and see if he's home. Boom.
We go knock around his house. He's coming out. He's
coming out. Boom, he's joining. Now let's go hit the park.
We go park, We're going to see. Oh, we see
some people there. We go smoking joint. Boom And this
the whole day, just roaming the streets like that was
such a coming to age moment for me.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
You know what I'm saying, No, just saying it's so exciting.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Yeah, it's exciting, and it's just you know that, And
it felt like it was it's like summer, how it's
the summer. It's just the whole work, the whole day
feels like a possibility. Where now everything's so organized in
my life. I know, I have visit two and then
I got to go and boom, and I've got tired
out my flat because I got some delivery. What I'm
saying now, I gotta pay my bills, I gotta make

(47:03):
this cool. I've gotta have this meeting where back then
it was just a wide open day and you just
put on your trainers and you just boom, you set out.
That's it. And and that's kind of like the seem
of Kids, where you got this wide open thing, but
also with the backdrop of you've got to deal with
a lot of concepts and adult themes that your brain
can't comprehend but has to, you know. And I think

(47:25):
that that film kind of resonated with me a lot.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Brilliant Right, what is here we go? Let's hope it's
not the same answer. What's the sexiest film?

Speaker 1 (47:33):
The first time I saw camerond As in Mask. You
know what I'm saying, Like Cameron d As in Mask.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Is unbelievable, mass she was.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
I remember the thinking that woman is. I remember, yeah,
go with you know, because you would fancy girls. You
know what I'm saying, Oh, she's cute, But that was
the first woman I went to. That woman was beautiful
in that film. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Though, it's one of the great entrances in cinema history.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Yeah, Cameron Dias Mark even do you know what Like
I don't know the names of the films, but the
films that would come on late night on Channel five,
remember that films? Yeah, Film but them Film was there too.
They were early wanking and you had to like and
you had to go through a whole storyline because you
can come but I'm telling you, but there'll be a

(48:24):
whole storyline and ship and you'd have to like have
a TV in my room and I would like, turn
the TV down, I'll go outside, see if you could
hear it from the outside. So I had like enough
that I could hear it, but you can't hear it
from the doors. And you'd have like that you'd have
your backup channels just in case someone can.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
That you can follow the story you need to follow.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Of course, of course you had the backup channel. But yeah,
dumb films. But also like Cameron Dias, I would say,
calm my lecture when she's in a good burger. You
know that was that she was bad? Man? Yeah, man,
I think they were films were these girls are bad
as hell? Yeah, I'm saying they were so bad.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
There's a sub categories to this question. Traveling Boner is worrying,
why jes film you found a rousing that you weren't
sure you should.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Yeah, so I'm trying to think about this one. Actually
think the mom and Adam's family Titia.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Yeah, the mom, Yeah, lovely.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
That's probably. But it's like it's meant to be this
weird kind of goffy vampire woman.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
But they're a very sexy couple. They're fucking all the
time and they're madly in love.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Yeah, all right, Winnie the Pooh, Okay, thank you not
wearing no trousers, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
That's now. Now, what is objectively, objectively the greatest film?

Speaker 1 (49:48):
If it is the answer that you get a lot,
I'll give you another one because I've got two that
I think for different reasons. I would say objectively, a
film that's perfect beginning to end, These good Fellows.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
You can that because I love it.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Yeah, beginning to end. There is no fat because it's
not about as a comedian. The best way I can
explain it, do you ever see someone do it? It's
like Gary Delaney's joke I had and you know, I've
got on their school, filled it with diesel. Now she's dead.
There's there's literally no fat in that joke. Just every
word and everything is for a purpose and there's no

(50:21):
fucking about. And it's like that for me that film.
Every scene is perfect, every actor is great, every music choice,
it's just beginning to end. One of the most perfect
films ever made. I think it's just there's no boring points,
there's no lulls. And it's a long film too. It's
not sure two hours.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
No, it's two and a half as. I don't know
if you know this, but me and this Kuma have
pitched a game show called good Luck not watching Goodfellas,
and it's where we sit. Contestants come on and they
need to do something, but we put on good Fellas
at any point in the in the film. That's funny
and they have to try and not watch good Fellas.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
That's funny. Good Fellas is one of them films where,
no matter what I'm doing, if I'm flicking over, it
could be any time. I could be. There's been times
where I'm about to go sleep and you know, you're
flicking over before and there's Good Fellas and it's forty
five minutes in and I'm watching the whole fucking thing. Yeah,
you could like, I haven't seen the beginning. I'm watching
the whole thing, even if you know the helicopters to
chase him and he's doing the cop Well, I love
that film so much, man.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
What was your other one? What was your nice?

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Yeah, worries?

Speaker 2 (51:26):
I think you can have good Fellas there. You can
have Good Fellows because it's fucking brilliant.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
What is the film you can or have watched the
most over and over again?

Speaker 1 (51:35):
The Dead nice after. I've watched that film so many times, man,
Like I've seen that film. It's always the go to
film for me if I'm like, if I'm chilling, you know,
if I'm smoking with a friend and they're like, I
put that on TV. I put shoeing the Dead if
I'm with a girl, and if I know what's that
Watch the Dead. I'm saying it's such a go to
film for me, that it's one of them films that

(51:56):
like it's just always it's just always a film that
I go to, man, whatever, we just really love that film.
I think it's that because I love zombies. That zombies
is one of my favorite genres. People of that sort
of yeah, people, but like that's one of my favorite genres.
Like I love you know, evil dead and doing they
are dead. I love them ships and that film is
really such a nice take on it, and it's just

(52:17):
you know, it's like funny, and you know that's the problem.
I go to film that.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
We don't like to be negative. So will be fairly quick.
What's the worst film you ever saw?

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Do you know what? I had to actually this scale
show me this film and I had to actually ask
for what the name of this film was. So let
me get it up. The Holy Mountain. I fucking hate
that film. Have you seen it?

Speaker 2 (52:38):
No, don't know what it is.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
It's a real it's a real art house film. It's
a proper art house film, and it's regarded as like
people like people go, oh, my god, there's some masterpiece.
And it's honestly one of the worst fucking films I've
ever seen in my life. Man, Like I don't mind,
Like I like house films, I'll go I'm that guy
who will go picture House of Genesis and sit there
and film about two prcidic Jews playing chess, and you

(53:03):
know what I like for three hours, Like I'll do that,
Like I enjoyed that. But it's just like such a
sort of self wank fest. And people, if people know
this film, they're gonna fucking tweet me abuse for this.
But it's like, you know, it's like it's like this guy,
he's like a thief, but he looks like Jesus and
the Alchemist. He represents one of the cards of the Tarots,

(53:23):
and he's in this dirt. And then he meets the
wharf that has no legs and no arms, who represents
something else. And they go and and all the people
are sort of standing in like a cruise to fix
to represent and it's just like, oh, my god, and
she was so looking forward to showing me this. I
was like, this is honestly one of the worst films
I've ever seen in my life. I hated every second

(53:43):
of that film.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Was that a girlfriend?

Speaker 1 (53:48):
But that? Oh yeah, man, oh yeah, yeah, that's the
reason we that's the reason she didn't become my girlfriend. Genuinely,
it was all going good until she showed that by
the ship.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
I get it. What is you're in comedy? You're very funny.
What's the funniest. What's the film that made you laugh
the most?

Speaker 1 (54:05):
I'd say Pineapple Express really made me laugh. But that's
when you heard Stir crazy answer. Stir Crazy is just
like and it's like and I know Richard Pryor and
Jean Wilder didn't like each other, didn't they. That's part Nah,
apparently they really hate each other. Yeah, Jim Wilder hated

(54:25):
I think Jean Wilder hated that Richard Pryor was a
coke head who was crazy, and Jean Wilder didn't like
I mean, and Richard Prye didn't like that Jem Wilder
was his square. I thought he was too good for
everyone or something like that. But like Jean Wilder wrote
about how he hated him, and they richly hated it.
But they were just such a good comedy team.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
But that's why they're good together because that's their parts.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
That's why they're kind of good together. Well, I think.
I think it's also the thing of like you know, Penninella,
they don't talk off stage. I know, it's so weird
their famous, their famous or not being friends. Like they go,
we like each other, but we don't hang out. I
don't talk to his wife. She don't talk to me.
And I think that's probably why Jane Wilder, because they

(55:09):
wasn't so wrapped up in friendship. They could tell each
other that's not funny. Do it this way, that's not
you know what I'm saying that you can sort of
be a bit more honest with someone who's not your friend,
because you know, we work in the game. You know,
it's like when you're working with one of your friends
and you kind of go, hey, man, could you you know,
I mean, but like you could just be so brute
and that but that but stir crazy man. When they're

(55:30):
in the prison and it's you know, it's just he's
like Richard Pryor to trying to tell him how to
walk is one of the funniest fucking man and that
film always has it for me. I think, Gee Wilder
is one of the underrated comedy actors.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
He's incredible.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
You know, he's such a good comedy actor. And I
think people give him Jews, but they don't give him
jews that actually know how funny he was as a
comedy actor. Like I remember my grandma said to me, man,
you gotta watch Jewish, told me, oh, you're gonna you
gotta watch. You want to watch real comedy because I
used to watch Keenan and Kel and she goes, that's
not funny, that's not funny. The real real funny is

(56:04):
is young Frankensteart, and that's real comedy. I think, Man, yeah,
I hate with that young Frank. Well I put on
Young Frank Oh my god, man that changed everything. That film.
Oh my god, Jean Wilder in that film, it's just
so funny, man, so such a funny film, man, like
just and it's so hard to write comedy like that,
do you know what I'm saying? Where it's so punchy

(56:26):
but not repetitive, and it's just everything's a dang but
it's kind of tongue in cheap but done so classy.
I love that.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
I always think that those films like there's joy in them,
like there's some magic to it, which is I don't
know how to describe it, but they're with the light,
you know what I mean, Like they have joy in
their eyes in there.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Yeah. Yeah, it looks like they're actually enjoying doing what
they're doing, and they're enjoying being funny, because I think
comedy is quite draining and it's hard to keep on
enjoying it sometimes, you know what I mean, People get
so much enjoyment from it. But you know, to when
you see them doing it and it looks like they're
having fun doing it, and you know the script's good
and it's just like perfect. You know, there's there's certain

(57:08):
times in life where things just have a perfect storm
and I think that's the moments. And there was a
couple of other guys that like that for me, like
Leslie Nilsen from Airplane just such a funny man.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Do you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (57:21):
No, And that's such a rare thing where he's just funny,
there's nothing, there's no if buts are wise about it.
There's some people in this world where they're just funny
fucking people. Man. And that guy, man, Leslie, that guy
always made me like even when he does like older
roles him. There's another guy, John Witherspoon. He was the
voice of the Granddad in Boondogs. He was in Friday

(57:45):
where he plays the dad. You know, the guy plays
the dad where he goes, you eat my pig feet,
you eat my bomber. That guy is just every film
he's in. He's in Boomerang where he wears his big
shuit with all these with all these mushrooms on it,
and it's just everything this guy in he's just He's
even in that soul playing film, which isn't a good film.

(58:06):
He's so funny, like Bernie Mack was a funny coming
like the guy mate. There's one bit, you know, there's
like little lines I love. I just love lines and
films like you know, there's one bit where I think
it's Friday where he asks to hit the joint he
played he plays a pasta and he asked to smoke
the joint and they're like, he goes, ain't you a
partially got that for my calarect my calorac And the

(58:28):
way he says cataract. It's one of the funny you know.
There's just guys like that where I just like look
up to him or you know what I'm saying. You
know Jeane Wilder and Richard Pryor in the stir Crazy.
He definitely does that for me. You know, it's one
of the.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Funny, smiling maddics. You've been wonderful, You've been fascinating, funny, brilliant. However,
when you were in Taskmaster and you did it with
minimal effort, yeah, as you know, there's a rabbit following
of the show and you were walking through the streets

(59:01):
of reading. Yeah, Taskmaster have been on a few weeks,
and you were annoyed with yourself because when you did
that tweet saying I'm doing with minimal effort, you were
being You were joking because you actually put effort in.
But these people didn't understand that. And they're in the car.
They've been circling the area for quite some time looking
for you, these massive Greg Davies fans, and they see

(59:25):
you just walking. You're just roaming like kids, and uh,
one of them pulls out a gun and shoots you deaf. Yeah,
you shot me. Shoots you to death many many times.
And I'm walking around reading you know what I'm like,
got a coughin with me. I'm looking for looking for

(59:46):
jimmalin where there's always I haven't seen Jimali for a while,
and not since task Master has been on Telly. Is
he all right? I see you in the street. You've
been shot to death and there's there's there's blood everywhere.
Foxes abada go at your body. Yeah, they've really gone
to town. And because of the pandemic, it's not many
people on the streets. It's just your body's been ravaged

(01:00:07):
by street foxes and stuff. And I come on like,
fucking hell, man, I knew you shouldn't have done that tweet.
You should have been more sincere. I knew that was
a risk. Where these things happen, that's Taskmaster for You're
not the first drive by shooting from Taskmaster anyway. So
I try and put you in this coffin. But there's
a lot more of you than I was expecting, because

(01:00:27):
the foxes have left drop ins. You know, you've you've
got maggots. There's just more stuff. So I have to
chop you up. To chop you up, women acts like
a donut. Stuff you in the coffin, right, stuff, there's
more of you, And I was expecting the coffins absolutely
jammed right, there's only enough room in this coffin, just

(01:00:50):
like one DVD in the side with you for you
to take across to the other side. And on the
other side it's movie night every night, and one night
it's your movie night. What film are you showing everyone
in heaven when it's your movie night?

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
To Marley the Green Street really yeah, yeah, we're watching
Green Street for the rest of our lives. Fucking hell
for that, just for that opening scene, for that closing
scene when it's like they're fighting and it's just music playing.
I love that scene. And there's another scene which I

(01:01:23):
love is when when when he's talking and then he
goes when you realize you're not made of glass, life
opens up fucking perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Green Street, Smiley Maddis, thank you, You've been wonderful. Have
a lovely death. Good day to you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
So that was Jamiali Maddox on a rewind Classic episode.
Be sure to check out the Patreon page at patreon
dot com slash Brett Goldstein, where you'll get extra chat
video and mixtapes of various tears or otherwise if you
fancy leaving a note on Apple podcasts, that would be
lovely too, But make it a review of your favorite film.

(01:02:05):
Much more fun and bretton maure and love nothing more
than reading them, do it for them. Thank you so
much to Jami Lee for his time and presence on
the podcast. Thanks to Scrubi's Pip and the Distraction Pieces Network,
thanks too. And this is where Brett thanks me for
editing and producing the podcast, so I say it's a pleasure.
Thanks to iHeartMedia and Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network

(01:02:26):
for hosting it. Thanks to Adam Richardson for the graphics
and Lisa Lydon for the photography. We will be back
next week with another rewind classic. But that is it
for now. Brett and I hope you're all doing really
well and in the meantime, have a lovely week and
now more than ever, be excellent to each others.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Bass back by the back back tows out, prods by
back back tost out says bass by base back tolers
a back, bass back

All Episodes

Jamali Maddix (episode 139 rewind!) • Films To Be Buried With with Brett Goldstein #291

Episode Transcript

Host

Brett Goldstein

Popular Podcasts

Dateline NBC

24/7 News: The Latest

Therapy Gecko

.css-15opob5{left:0;position:absolute;top:0.8rem;} All Episodes

.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Jamali Maddix (episode 139 rewind!) • Films To Be Buried With with Brett Goldstein #291