January 22, 2025 • 53 mins
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Join your host Brett Goldstein as he talks life, death, love and the universe with the modern day legend in sketch comedy MACKENZIE BARMEN!
For some folk, seeing 'TikTok' in the title might seem strange especially if you do not engage with the app. Thankfully for everyone, Mackenzie's amazing and hilarious sketchwork is available on browsers in general if you are not an app download enthusiast and it is strongly recommended to familiarise yourself! From physical embodiment of social media platforms to general character studies, Mackenzie has managed to zero in on something so insightful with such control and observation, and as a guest and friend of the show you'll soon become her friend too (if you are not already). From family dynamics, to process, to career talk, to solo scares, and all the world besides, you will absolutely love this one even if Mackenzie's name is not in your immediate eyeline. Enjoy!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Look out. It's only films to be buried with. Hello,
and welcome to films to be buried with. My name
is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian, an actor, a writer,
a director of Chocolate Tear, and I love films. As
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Brent Smith once said, the ocean is not a wilderness,
It's a garden, which is why in the film The
Secret Garden everyone has to wear wellies and snorkels and whatnot.
Is it every week I invite a special guest over.
I tell them they've died, then I get them to
discuss their life through the films that mend the most
of them. Previous guests include Barry Jenkins, Kevin Smith, Sharon Stone,
and even Rumbles. But this week we have the brilliant
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and hilarious Mackenzie Barman. All episodes are Shrinking Season two,
Season one and two are now available on Apple TV.
Get caught up on every single episode. You'll fucking love it.
Head over to the Patreon at patreon dot com forward
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of chat with MCA. We talk secrets, beginnings, and endings.
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Check it out over at patreon dot com. Forward slash
Brett Goldstein So McKenzie Barman. You might know her from TikTok.
You might know her viral comedy specials. You might know
her appearance on Comedy Knockout. You might know her from Instagram.
She is very very, very very very funny. If you've
never seen her, look up her Instagram or her TikTok
incredible sketches. We'd never met before. I was a big
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fan of hers. I was very excited to meet her,
and it was lovely to get to know her over zoom.
She's fucking hilarious. I really think you're going to enjoy
this one. So that is it for now. I very
much hope you enjoy episode three hundred and thirty five
of Films to be Buried With. Hello, and welcome to
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Films to be Buried With. It is me Brett Goldstein
and I enjoined today by an actor as sketch, an improvisor,
and its the star, a TikToker star, a social media sensation,
a hero, a legend, a person who is going to
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be very big right before your eyes. Please, welcome to
the show. It's the brilliant. It's becauseie brabit stop.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I'm literally gonna step that as my ring tone. I
swear the most beautiful intro ever.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Mackenzie. Let's be straight. We've never met before.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
We've never met.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
This has happened. We messaged each other. You are hilarious.
I have watched all of your sketches on Instagram. I think,
not only are they so funny and I love you
with your friend Chaz, but they're also the best active sketches.
I've like, you're a seriously good actor. They're really really
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funny and so such good acting. It's just brilliant.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
That means so much coming from you. Honestly, that's all
I want to come through. So if it is, that's
that's everything to me.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
It's great and I love you and Chazz. And then
I listened to your podcast and I found out you
and Chazz haven't known each other all your lives, despite
it seeming like you do. No that beautiful.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It's it's so funny because we have the same digital
manager and she kind of set us up through an
event that we were both going to and she was like,
you guys need to meet. You're gonna love each other
and we met at that event and we immediately were
just inseparable, like it's he's like my long lost twin
or something.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Where are you are you in LA?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I'm in LA. I'm in like West Hollywood ish area.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, and basically, why in UNSA now is the question.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I've auditioned. We'll see, We'll see if I ever get it.
I don't know, you know, I'm kind of new to
the comedy world. Like I never really did sketch or
improv in New York when I lived there, I was
more so focused on being a dramatic actress and like
determined to be the next Meryl Streep, which I still amy,
but it was Yeah, it was steel like social media
that I kind of got into comedy. So I'm kind
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of I'm getting more in to it now, but yeah,
it's kind of a new world for me.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
So you thought you were a serious person. Yeah, until
very recently. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And I have this acting teacher in New York who
would always tell me that he's like, you know, you
need to do comedy, You're so funny, and I was
determined not to. I was like, I love comedy and
SNL Honestly, was always kind of a dream, but it
never felt like a realistic one, so I just kind
of didn't and now it is. So it's it's the
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world has flipped on me in the past couple of years.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
It's very interesting that, I know, everyone wants to be
a serious person, but some people are just funny and
that sit and you have to accept that you're a
funny person. And there's a lot of people who aren't funny,
and they have to accept that they should be a
dramatic actor solely, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I think the best dramatic actors though, are.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Comedic people for sure. I think they can do both and.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
You know, switch between those worlds, which is really what
I want to do. My ideal scenario is to be
on a drama y or some kind of a show
that really and you're really a master at that of
kind of towing that line of drama and comedy and
being grounded and all that.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah. Fun, But also you write all your stuff, right
I do?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah, I kind of write it backwards, like I improvise
everything as I'm doing it and then adjust the lines
kind of as I go. I'm not really good at
sitting and writing. But I write in my brain and
then I'll copy it onto paper, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, you also have a I mean listen, I'm really,
really a fan. There's a cinematic language that you have
done where you are talking to yourself in these sketches
and the way I was thinking, the way you framed
them is really smart. You're also a good cinematographer. I mean, really,
you really listen. Meryl Street can't frame a shop. It's
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a wonderful actor. I wouldn't handle the camera, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Like, yeah, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I apologize.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
She could be listening right now. Well, it's funny because
I used to run a demo reel production company when
I lived in the city, and that was kind of
like a vehicle because for the longest time I had
such a hard time getting representation because people were like, oh,
you're great.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
We just don't know what to do with you.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And it was kind of during the time of doing
your own work and putting yourself out there and that's
how you'll you'll make it. And so I started a
demo reel company because I was like, it gives me
the power to write and also direct and shoot and edit,
and I could learn everything, So I think that helped
a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
That's interesting. So what you you have? You still have
this company?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Not really, I really don't. It was kind of weird
transitioning from New York to LA because I feel like
in LA it's more in demand that kind of service.
In New York, I feel And I also got so
into doing social media that that kind of became because
that was really my job, you know, and then I
kind of didn't need it anymore, so I just kind
of let it go. But I still do love it,
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and if somebody came to me and wanted to shoot
a reel, I'd be like, yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
So you've been making two films for people all this time.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, I think I have like over one hundred of
scenes that I've written four other people, because I love people,
and I love specificity and kind of like creating something
that's super targeted for somebody, So I would meet with
them and then figure out exactly what they want to
do and bridging that gap of like what they want
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to be and what the industry sees them as, and
then kind of writing scenes for them and it's I
love it. It's a really fun thing to do.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, you write the scenes for them as well. I
mean you're one person industry.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah. I did have a partner who wrote for a
while and then I kind of took over and started
writing the scenes. But yeah, and I've I've written a
pilot and I've written I just did my one woman
show at New York Comedy Festival and I created it
was so good. It was It was really daunting because
for the longest time I've been like, you know, comedic
people and comedians. I don't really consider myself a comedian,
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but I feel like we need to have an hour
of something, you know. And my manager for the I
mistakenly told her two years ago. I was like, I'm
working on a one woman's show. And so she's been
knocking down my door ever since. And then New York
Comedy Festival rolled around and she was like, hey, let's
submit for this, and I was like, you know what, Okay, yeah,
let's do it. So I submitted a concept and I
didn't really even have anything really yet because I'm.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
A fraud.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
And so I was like, okay, well whatever, And so
having the deadline of knowing Okay, there's a show on
this date. Whether I'm ready for it or not. It
kind of lit the fire under me to get me
doing it. And yeah, it was a show that it
had a plot and it had a through line, but
it was also kind of a variety show. I did
a bunch of characters, but it dipped into drama. There
were a couple of musical numbers, and I just wanted
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to kind of be like, here's the show of everything
I can do.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
What was the plot.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
It's called work in progress, and the plot is that
it's the last rehearsal before the show, and so I'm
running through all the tech with my my tech person
who actually Chaz played. He was my tech guy, and
the show was mostly improvised, but.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
It was kind of beat out.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
And I'm waiting on this call from my manager that
I went to producers for this project and I basically
have the role, and I'm just waiting on this call,
and then I kind.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Of do a bunch of bits.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
He's hating everything I'm doing the whole time, and at
the end of it, I get the call and it
turns out I didn't get it, and so it's just
this like immense disappointment, and I kind of go onto
this rant of like what am I doing?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Like what if I don't make it? What do I do?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
And it's kind of revealed then that Chaz is not
actually my tech guy, but he is my subconscious. So
it's me hating everything I'm doing and being super self critical.
And then there's another twist that I won't spoil in
case we ever do in La do you want it out?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I can tell you.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
So then the other twist is that he's not actually
my subconscious, but this whole show was his audition to
play that part. So so then he comes down at
the very end and he's like, oh, thank you, so
good to meet you. And then he starts to walk
off the stage and he's like, well, was was any
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of that phone call bit real? Because that wasn't in
the script. And I'm like, oh, yeah, no, it's a bit.
It's it's all a bit. And then at the very
end you're kind of left wondering like was it a bit?
And then the phone call rings at the very end,
and it turns out Florence Pugh, who got the role
over me, turned it down. So by the end of
the show, I actually do get the role and that's
the Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
No, I had to have a happy ending for myself.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I like that. I like that very much. Thank you
well McKenzie. Yeah, I yes, I've watched his sketches. But
I have forgotten to tell you something. And fuck, it's
bad because we just met. You seemed like laugh, But
I guess I have to tell you you've died. That's
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a bummer, it is it kind of Yeah, how did
you die?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I was abducted? Whoa, I was abducted by one of
these drones that are flying over New Jersey and yeah,
and it sucked me up and I'm gone, I'm just
I'm gone.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Wait, I'm going to need a little more detail. It
sucked you into a drone. And what a little drone.
So it sucked you in and crustal your bones.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Well, it wasn't one.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
It was one of the six.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
It was one of the drones the size of a
mini van that we thought was a drone, but it
turns out it actually was a UAP. It was a
flying minivan and I got sucked up in it and
they experimented on me until there was nothing left.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Oh my god, there was nothing left, like they were
like sort of cutting bits off you.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I think so. I think it hardst me, Yeah, from
the inside out.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Oh so maybe maybe it was for a good cause.
Maybe I'm being useful in another dimension.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
You know, you're like a Dina for aliens, an alien.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah. Yeah, I like to think. I like to think that.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah that's not bad, is it? Kenzie? You did some good?
Indian could be worse? Yeah. Do you worry about death?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Hmmm?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I used to worry a lot more about it.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Why did you stop?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I mean, it's it's it's something that when I when
it does come into my mind, it's like a startling thought.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Of like, oh that is going to happen to me someday.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
But I almost feel like I've become more spiritual, not
religious really, but I've become more spiritual over the past
like few years, and so I kind of at this
point feel like death maybe is just another step in
life and that we something else happens after.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
So I try to.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Be positive about it, but I guess I do when
I don't you know.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
How many steps are there? If death is the next step?
Is there more after that? Are they're different phases?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I think so yeah, I do believe in like old
souls and newer souls, and like the idea of a
reincarnation kind of thing where it's like we choose the
lives we live maybe a little. And I think I
love the idea of reaching enlightenment and that you know,
you're you're cycling through all these lives to learn different
lessons and then eventually you're like done and then you
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can just live in peace forever. That's kind of where
I like to live.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, well, number life do you think you're I.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Think I've lived a lot. I think I maybe like
nine or ten.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Oh. How many did you think you have to go for?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I don't know, maybe twenty oh, But that feels like
a low number. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
If you've got, if you've got to experience all of
youman existence, I think more than that.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
So maybe maybe maybe I've experienced about twenty and let's say,
maybe I'm halfway there.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Maybe I'm halfway there.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Thought, I mean, I was thinking it was Billy Billy.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Well, yeah, I guess it does go on infinitely.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Listen. I believe in this same thing, but the idea
of having just more and more of it, it impresses me,
twenty would be.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Great, but twenty is nice.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, I suspect it's a lot more, particularly because every
every you know, I sort of go like, oh, yeah,
I've done pretty good. But then you still make mistakes,
you still up every time. I will go the fuck
I'm gonna have to go around again.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I have that same thought.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
I'm like, shoot, I shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Now I'm gonna have to do did the whole fucking
thing again?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yeah, it's actually kind of miserable when you think about it.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I think forty. I think forty is a baby forty.
You know, forty damn dumb.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Oh god, you're making me rethink all of this.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah, well no, I'm just thinking. I just I just
don't believe forty is enough to learn everything you need
to learn.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
What's what's a good number for you?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
What are you thinking?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Billions?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I think it's a billion. I think if there's what
is there nine billion people in the world. Yeah, if
it's a billion, I mean, and it's still believe you're
trying not to mess up with.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
I said, oh, we'll meet somewhere in the middle. Five
hundred million, five hundred million.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I'm exhausted thinking about all these lives. Yeah, well and
you're only on number ten.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Well now now with that logic, no, I think I'm
further along. We'll say I'm closer to four hundred million,
then big jump.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
But okay, yeah, yeah buy.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
That because because you know, you meet people who are
who you just like, I don't know, I don't know
if you're you are good at picking up on energy,
but I feel like I am, Like I can sense
when somebody's like kind of green to this, to this experience.
I'm like, oh, you haven't done this a lot, have you. Yeah,
Like my niece, I know is an old soul, but
I think my nephew is like a newer soul.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah. There's someone I worked with is very very old,
and there's another person I work with. It's like, oh,
this is your first time. Yeah, it's like a golden retriever. Like, oh,
you're like a new book, You're fresh out of the box.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah, all of this is new to you.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Like he's yeah, where do you think you are in
the in your journey?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I hope I'm like, Oka, Jesus, I hope I'm like
four hundred and ninety nine million, because.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Only only one million ward ago.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Jesus.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
But I love that idea. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I love the idea of like doing your life with
people multiple times, like those people in your life that
you just feel a soul tie to and you're just like,
I know, we've done this before in a different way, in.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
A different configuration.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I like when people do like past life digressions and
they go, oh, my wife is my dad, and I'm like, okay.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, I would love to do one of those. Have
you ever done one?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah? I am. Yeah. I didn't know if it was
legit or not. It was like in the back of
a car.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Oh actually, that sounds like about as legit as you
can get. That sounds like where it would happen in
some back alley.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
It was in the back of a car on the
way to Disneyland, but you know, it seems but when
it was happening, well, honestly, what I thought was, I
think I'm just telling a story in my head, because yeah,
you know, I'm sort of writing a cool story that
I'm imagining. But I'm sure it's yeah real, You're just
giving me these prompts, and I'm like I would in
a fucking writer's you know what.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I mean, well, that's how I feel. I get these
like tarot card reading things that pop up on my
TikTok of like people giving you a reading through the phone,
and I'm so like, I'm like, this is meant for me.
It's like they can say one word and I'm like,
this is directly a message for me, a comfort.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, well, I think that's how those things work in it.
I also realized that saying that if anyone's worried that
I've been in La too long, that I quite casually
said the sentence, yeah, I did a past life regressed
in the back of a car on the way to
Disney Life.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
That's so La.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
You need to come home, Brett, Brett, you need to
come home.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
This is not right. This is not right.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Oh my gosh, tell me what. So the in between?
You have five hundred million lives, the big way you
die in each life. What happens in the middle. Is
there a gap? Do you get a holiday before you
have to go back?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I think there's like a reflection period. There's a woman
that I follow. Her name is Dolores. I can't remember
her last name, but she's like an older woman who
just I just believe everything she says and she's experienced
this or seen it or whatever. Where I think that
there's a period where you go and you're greeted by
your loved ones, whatever that looks like, and you have
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this reflection period of like looking back at the life
you just lived, working through it, because I don't I
feel like our human consciousness is not the same as
like when we're like our soul consciousness, you know, like
we're I don't think we're gonna look back at it
in the same way as we're.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Experiencing it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah, So I think there's like a reflection period, and
then I think there's you get maybe a little bit
of a break, a little hiatus before you're you're you're
jolted back in a little respit.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
You think. Do you think in heaven they call it
a hiatus. Oh, you're on hiatus.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
You're on hiatus. I hope you get picked up for
season two.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I hope we get picks up of season four hundred
and ninety nine minute as well. Yeah I don't. I'm
hoping we get canceled. We can stay here. Oh my gosh, Well, Mackenzie,
good news. There is a heaven, do you believe it?
And it is filled with your favorite thing? What's your
favorite thing?
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Animals?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
It fuck, it is like a safari in a way.
There's so many animals in it. It's like a zoo
and a safari, but everyone's But the animals are free.
But they are all in heaven and they're jumping on you.
Not the ones with hoofs, the soft ones and the
ones with hoo's are just like walking around. You pat
them and stuff and you're very friend. The ones with
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who's nuzzle you?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yeah no, I love that.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah yeah, yeah, little head.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah. But the ones with paus they jump on you.
And that does include tigers.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I'm fine with that.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Panthers and elephants don't have who's so obviously there was
a jumping on you anything anything with that shoe zone
might be a danger, but fine, yeah you yeah, you
die again.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Hey, I'm fine.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I'm fine if I die by animals trampling me.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
That's a good way to go in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah. Yeah, anyway, they're all very excited to see you.
These animals. They want to talk to you about your life,
but they want to talk about your life through film,
which is weird. Did it? It's like, and the first
thing they want to know is what is the first
film you remember seeing? McKenzie Baron.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
You know, my memory is pretty bad, but I remember
the first movie. The first movie I really remember seeing
was Jurassic Park. And I think I was like four
or five maybe, and my dad was a movie guy,
so we would always either go to the movies or
watch a movie at night at home, and Jurassic Park
is just like a staple in my brain of like
my young mind seeing that movie.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Did it scare you? Is that way you? Like? Adam?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I think it thrilled me. I think it It wasn't
so scary.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
It is thrilling.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
It's thrilling.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
And I think I was like the raptors were scary,
I think, but I think the fantasy of the world
and like my young mind being like, somewhere on this planet,
this is happening for real, I think. I just I
remember being amazed by that movie.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
I still am It's.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
A great fucking movie.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
It's so good and the cast is so stacked.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
It's so good, so good.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, Sam Neil and Laura den Right right on screen, couple.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Amazing and I loved their clothes I remember thinking they
looked so cool and they're safari outfits.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
They do have clue clothes, they do. Do you have
brothers and sisters?
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah, I'm the oldest of four.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
What Yeah, we kind did the other three.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I have two brothers, one who's thirty one and the
other one is twenty four, and then my sister who's
in the middle of them. So it goes girl boy,
girl boy. My sister is twenty eight. So we're two years,
three years and four years apart.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Are you old close?
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah? Yeah, we are.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
We've kind of we're not as I mean, we are close.
My brother lives in Florida and I'm in California, so
I really don't see him much at all, but we're
all still really close. We were all really close as kids.
We fought a lot, but.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
All right, did you raise them?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah kind of. So yeah, my parents were divorced when
I was in fifth grade, and so I definitely took
on like a maternal role. They would say bossy, but
I would say maternal.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Then listen to this, he's your favorite.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Oh God, that's really hard.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I think my baby you had it was I do
I feel like my baby brother. My sister is my
sister and I are so close. But my baby brother,
I just feel is the most like me. He's really funny,
and he's so quick, amazing at impressions, like it's unreal
how good he is. But he doesn't he doesn't utilize that.
(23:07):
So I'm I'm always trying to get it out of him.
I'm trying to get him moved to la with me.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Actually, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
He's just he's the best and he's he's Yeah, I
love him.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
His name is Laife Laife life.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Like yeah, like Leif Erickson, Laife l E I f
Norwegian life.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Life yeah, life.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
With those impressions. And I'm sorry to you. Your other
brother and.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Sister, Yeah, they'll never hear this.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
What is the film that made you cry? The mis
crying like your other brother and sister right there? What
is the film made Are you a cry?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
M Oh, I'm a crier. Yeah, I love it. I
love to cry.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I cry a lot on my sketches too, just for
fun because people love it.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
I think a movie, there's a.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Few, So Titanic was one that really got me because
i'm that was the one that I remember watching pretty
Too with my mom, which I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I watch that movie with my mom at such a
young age.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
It was pretty steamy for a little kid to watch,
but the end just sobbing, like, especially with the old
couple in the bed when they would hug each other
and you knew that it was their last moment.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
I just would lose my mind every time.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
I still really can't watch it without completely losing my mind.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Yeah, that one.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
And then have you ever seen Big Fish McKenzie?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
That might be? That's in my top three answer is
a film that might be Pid of My Step That's Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
It's one of the best movies ever made, and it
always makes me feel good.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I haven't watched that film much because I loved it
so much, but it destroyed me so much that I
have been scared to go back. I think it's a
fucking amazing film.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
That is, It's an amazing film. Like everything about it.
I think it's Yeah, it's dreamy and it's exciting, and
it's it's just such beautiful storytelling and it's oh, just
Jessica Lang in it. Oh, everyone is amazing.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I mean anything Father's and Macona. Do you you've got
dad issues?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Probably? I think so. Yeah, I love my dad. But
for sure, well because my parents were divorced when I
was in fifth grade, so there was definitely like this,
you know dad on every other weekend and Tuesday Thursdays,
and you know, and my dad. I love him, and
(25:26):
he's the kind of person that would do anything for you.
But we don't have too many I don't think I've
ever had like a real deep emotional conversation with him.
It's almost awkward and intimidating to like go there. But yeah,
like any like any comedic woman in their early thirties,
I'm sure I have daddy issues like comedians.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
It's okay, It's okay. That's a fucking great film. I
love is so hard. I know it's my love, but
I think he's one of my favorite access Now I've
said it out loud for the first time ever. I
love him. Yeah, talk about daddy issues. Daddy Warbucks.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Come on, I know the films. He's somebody who just
he emotes, you know, like you can't help but feel
something when he's speaking.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
You know, Matty war Box, I forgot.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
What is the film that scared you the most? Do
you like being scared?
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I love being scared. I'll watch a scary movie anytime.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
When you're right, You're right.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah, I'll watch it in the dark by myself in
my one bedroom apartment. And my sister is the complete opposite.
She's like, I literally could never but I love being scared.
I actually watched Well, it's not really scary anymore, but
I watched Signs this morning, just you know, because of
where we are in the times.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
I love Signs. I love Signs. It's on my list,
I think and here.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
But the movie that scared me the most as a
kid was The Blair Witch Project because I thought it
was so real. I thought it was real. That one
and a Nightmare on Elm Street is still so scary
to me. Have you seen that one?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I have seen that one, and I was talking with
my friend the other day. It's as it hasn't been tucked.
That's a good idea. The concept you must brilliant orilliance.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
And I remember when I first saw it because my
my aunt's girlfriend had brought it over. I must have
been in middle school. She brought it over. We'd never
seen it, and there was a scene in the movie
where I was like, we have to turn this off.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I can't watch this, like I'm gonna lose my mind.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
It's when they're going down the hallway and I think
that she's I can't remember if she's being dragged or
if she's there's like a school hallway scene.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Zip buddy beg. Yes.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I was like turn it off.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
And I still really have trouble watching that movie. So scary.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Just the concept.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Do you terrible when you're watching on your own scary films?
Do you have a guy too far? Do you have
a guy? I regret doing this because now I'm really
scared in my house.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah, that happened to me recently. I actually it happened
in a movie theater. I went and saw a movie.
I can't remember what it was, but it was scary.
It was during Halloween time, and I remember I watched
it at the grove and I was like walking in
the parking garage and I was like, something's following me.
Like I was so scared and I didn't want to
get in my car. I hate being in my car
alone at night. It's just I don't feel alone. It
(28:06):
was really yeah, yeah, I go too far? Yeah, and
then I have to put on the office or something.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
What is the film that you love it is not
generally critically acclaimed, but you love it. You don't care
what others think of you.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
There's a couple, okay, The wicker Man, Nicholas ca Okay, right,
and I'm not sure what the acclaim is on it,
but I know that it's like a bad Yeah, it's yeah,
but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I love Nicholas Cage.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Anything that man does, I'll watch and I don't know,
there's just something about it that I love. And also
the Village, which I don't know. I love the village
and that's something. When I tell people they're like, that
was a horrible movie, I'm like, no, it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
You're wrong.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
I think is actively a good film, good, well, good, Yeah,
The Wickhedman. I I haven't actually seen the Nicholas ks Wickhedmen,
but I know, I know he screams at the bees, the.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Bees, not the bees, not the beecet. Yeah, it's crazy.
And then of course, like the one of the worst
movies of all time, The Room by Tommy Wisseau, I'll
watch it.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I think it's fascinating to I don't like enjoy it,
but I find it fascinating.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
It is from the little that I know about him.
It's almost like it's not that he's.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
In on the joke, but it's that he's completely unaware
of it but also fully aware of it at the
same time.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I can't explain it.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
The whole thing is fucking weird.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
It's a phenomenon, it really is.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
It is. And I once saw a film that's kind
of room level back in terms of sort of technically
room level bad, but it was so entertaining. I was like,
I'm not bored. I mean, I've seen better films that
bored me. Like I kind of think maybe this is
maybe this is it, Maybe this.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Is I don't know, artists objective, you know, it's not boring.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
That's I think that's my yeah base. If I'm bored,
that's a problem. But if it's like terrible, but I'm like,
I've never seen anything like this.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
That's the room I like, I can't. I've seen it
multiple times. Yeah, and it does grab you, like You're like,
I can't look away. And you also have to applaud
You really have to have respect for the hustle because
he just he he was determined to make that movie
and he did it. And now look, it's like everyone
has seen it. It's you know, yeah, it's true.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
So what is, on the other hand, a film that
you used to love your voice recently and you've thought, oh,
I don't like this anymore. It might not be the
film's fault, just that you've changed.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
This one was the toughest one for me to answer, because.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I I don't know, really, I think a movie that
doesn't hold up for me because of the messaging maybe
is shallow howl.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Yeah, but it's it's a it's a it's a. Really
I loved that movie.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
There was a because that was like during a time
where you could kind of do anything you wanted in
comedy and no one was gonna fault you for it.
And the movie is wild, you know, like you have
to have a spell on you to be attracted to
an overweight person. And at that time we were just
like yeah. But watching it now, you're like.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Oh my god. It also doesn't make sense. The concept
doesn't make any sense because the message is beauty is
on the inside. It isn't about how you look, but
the film to portray that message goes so that would
have to look like Wwinnip Paltrow.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Right right, Yeah, she has to be really hot.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
She has to be really hot for you to learn
the lessons. She doesn't have to be hot, but for
us to get this message across to the audience, she
has to be hot.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, it melts my brain.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
It really is a brain melter. It really is.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
And another one that is just when you watch it now,
you're just like, whoa like the vf are crazy? Is
the Mummy Returns? What a crazy movie?
Speaker 3 (32:07):
And I loved the Mummy franchise.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I think I own it on VHS somewhere, like I
loved those movies, so at the time, I think I
loved it. And watching it now, if you watch a
clip of like the Rock as as the Scorpion King,
well he was the Rock then now he's Dyne Johnson,
Jayne the Rock Johnson. But it's it's insane. It's insane.
Watch it. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Okay, I'm gonna go. Mummy Returns. What is the film
that means the most to you? Not necessarily the film
itself is good, but the experience you had seen it
will always make it special to you.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Kenzie, I have a few answers for this one too.
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is just that might
be a cliche answer, but it's.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Just I watched it during.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
A period of my time when I like, I had
my first real boyfriend and we watched it together and
it was just like this, it stuck with me as
such a memorable Not all me is the film amazing,
but it just happened during a really interesting.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Time in my life. So that one and then.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Her is also a movie that I mean, I have
a closter rob it. It's I love that movie and
that I don't really know why it has a lot
of meaning to me, honestly, but it just does.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Just I think is a film about my heart. Take
on what Her is. Yeah, I think Her is Spike
Jones's apology to Sofia Coppola after their divorce. That's why
I think that film is I think interesting. Unless I've
(33:37):
misread it, it's about a man who is lonely and
seeking connection and whatever. That that stuff is the surface stuff,
but it's kind of about a man realizing he's not
a great guy and that he's not been very good
in the relationship in his past relationship.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Mm hmmm, I'm like so disconnected from the real people.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Around him exactly, and having not paid attention to the woman.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
That was his who cared about him.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
I think that's a great take.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
I don't know if that's a hot I think that's
a really good take.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Okay, you're welcome.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I'm also just such a big fan of Joaquin Phoenix,
and I think when I saw it it was kind
of unlike any movie I'd really seen, and especially now
with Ai and how this is kind of a reality now.
It's just it. It always just hits that I don't know.
I have to rewatch it. I haven't seen it in
a long time actually, but yeah, those ones. Did I
write anything else down?
Speaker 1 (34:35):
No?
Speaker 3 (34:36):
That was it. Nothing else I was reading to me.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
I will say. Another movie that has a lot of
meaning for me. I can't believe I forgot about this
is the Never Ending Story.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
You seen it?
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yes, okay, good.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I think that was a movie that I watched on
repeat a lot as a kid, and I think it
was a form of escapism for me, like going through
you know, my parents' divorce and all the it was
pretty rough time. So that just you I was a
single mom at ten, I mean, come on, come on,
So that movie has so I think it's still one
(35:11):
of the best movies ever made to this day. Yeah,
it holds up for me, even even though it doesn't.
I guess even though it doesn't, it holds up for me.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
That's nice. Nice. Yeah, what's the film you relate to?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Bridget Jones's diary? I am her and she is me.
I swear if they were to redo that movie now.
I know they're coming out with a new one in
twenty in February, and I cannot wait. But I think
if they were to redo it and say, okay, we
need a new bridge at Jones, like look no further,
(35:46):
like it is me.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah, she's just.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
So quirky and fun and like odd but charming, and
I like to think that's how I am and chronically single,
you know, so I think we're just we're one and
the same. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Does it annoy you the British Giane's Diary exists? Because
would you like to write Britigeize's diary?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
No, I'm I couldn't even be mad that it exists.
You know, It's funny. I watched it for the first
time like three weeks ago, four weeks ago. Oh really,
and I had like a moment of like, how have
I I think I watched it as a kid because
Renees Elwigger is my dad's favorite person on the planet.
He's obsessed with her. He like forced us to watch
(36:27):
all of her movies. And I think when I was young,
I just didn't appreciate it, or I didn't really pay
attention because I was I was talking about it on
Instagram and my dad messaged me and he was like,
you have seen this movie.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
I'm like, I don't. Oh, I don't think I have.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
But I think it's the best movie ever. And I
can't even be mad that it's that it's already made,
even though I am.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I love the sequel.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
I love I love all of them.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
I love all yeah, and people say that's the worst one.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Disagree.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I think think every move, all three of them I
think are perfect. I even love the Patrick Duncy one.
I think they're so good. But I like that that
one was closer to the first one time wise, you know.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
I mean, it's it's right after you know it happens.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
But I just I think they're the I think, Oh,
I just think it's the perfect movie, perfect casting.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
I need to be her. I love her.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
I think that can happen. What is the sexiest film
you've ever seen, Mackenzie.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
B you know, I think Interview with the Vampire is
one of the sexiest movies ever.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Great show, and I don't think that's kind of up
on this really.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Wow, I'm surprised it's such a sexy movie.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yeah, yeah, you can have that.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah, I mean I don't. I don't think Kirsten Dunst
is a child is sexy in it. It's the vampire
men cut the still. But my god, okay, okay, but
a young young Tom Cruise and a young Bra I mean,
like it's just and the makeup and like the mood
(38:07):
and the lighting and the tone of it.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
It's just it's just it's a sexy movie.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Is a sexy mood? What is there's a sub category
to this, Mackenzie. I'm sorry, we've only just met, but
it's trampling bon is worrying. Why donce a film you
found the rousing that you weren't sure you should?
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Okay wait I wrote this with that too, So this
one was also tough to answer. But I think there's
a cartoon movie that as a kid I was so
attracted to the lead was the movie Spirit.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
It's like about a horse.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah, you were attracted to the hole spirit he was.
He was so cute to me with his heaves done.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Even with the hooves, he can trample me in heaven.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
You know, I'll take it. I Oh, he was just
a cutie.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
And I think Avatar oddly was very I don't even know.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
If a rousing is the right word, but I found it.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
I found them sexy people, you know, sex see yeah, yeah,
you're like, I shouldn't be turned on, but I kind
of am, you know. And another one, the last one
is because of one character in the movie. And this
is another one likes as kind of like a kid
teenager watching it was the Santa Claus, the role of Bernard. Yeah,
not Tim Allan, but Bernard, who was like the head elf.
(39:19):
He was like he was a bit of a sexual awakening.
I think for me as a as a young person.
I can't remember his name, Oh David, yeah, yeah, yeah,
as a little girl. He had like that curly hair
and that cool weird hat and like the outfit. And
(39:40):
that was another one where it's just like, ooh, I'm
like hot and heavy for this elf.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
And yeah, aroused.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
What is objectively the greatest film of all time?
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Objectively not your favorite Interstellar wonderful. I think that's just
gotta be.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
The issues.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
There we go, There, we go. True.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Yeah, that one. It's just mind blowing.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
And they're doing an Imax release of it right now
that I really want to go see it.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
I was going to see that, Yeah, it's it. Yeah,
And I read a really like great article about it
where it was sort of like the thing that people
didn't like when it came out is the thing that
has made it last, which is essentially that love is
a kind of physical thing that binds the universe. Yeah,
and I think when it first came out everyone was like,
this is cheesy, and there it was like so beautiful.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah, it's so beautiful and it's just so visually accurate.
And I love how it was like the first visual
of a black hole that was like what it would
actually look like and how time would actually bend, and
how like I love the realistic elements of it because
I just I'm I'm a freak.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
For like space stuff too. I love I love it.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
I love talking about the stars and how time goes
on forever, Like I love conversations like that. So that
movie just kind of took all of that and put
it in, you know, two and a half hours.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
I loved it.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Have you seen the film that I loved that's incredibly dark?
Most people didn't like it. It's got Robert Patterson in it,
High Life. No you see the film High Life?
Speaker 3 (41:26):
No should?
Speaker 1 (41:26):
I I think he should. I love it very much.
But it is about a spaceship of prisoners on a mission,
on a sort of kamikaze mission to go through a
black hole. So there's like it's very dark.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
That's right up my alley.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Yeah, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
I think, Oh, I got to check it out. I
love him too.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Yeah, he's great.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
He's so good and I love I just love his
journey too, of like Twilight being the movie that launched
him and him being just so determined to be such
like a series as actor and just succeeding at I
just I love him for that.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Yeah, he's like the opposite of your journey.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
What is the film? You could? Or have watched? The
mist over and over again?
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Pride and Prejudice. I've seen probably about three hundred times,
the Matthew mcfaden version. I still haven't watched a Colin
Firth version because I know I'm gonna be so obsessed
with it. Yeah, it's because I love him so much.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yeah, he's your boy. He's my boy from three weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
He's your boy. He's my lock screen on my phone.
I love him.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
But I love Matthew mcfaden as well.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
And I just think that movie.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
I there was a week last year, I think during
around right before I moved out to LA where I
just watched it every single day of the week. I
couldn't get enough of it. That movie I could watch
over and over again. Also, Signs I could watch over
and over and over again.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
It's great. Signs it's great.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
It's so great.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
And I love this scene. It slips Mel Gibson, but
the scene where he tells the story of the kid's birth.
I think it's great perform I I love it.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
It's so good. There are so many moments in that
film that are just so good. Like I love when
Joaquin Phoenix is in the office with the general and
he's giving the speech about Oh, I don't even remember
what the speech. I just watched it, but he's giving
the speech and just the way he delivers it and
the way it's shot, it's almost so slimy and weird
and I just love it.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
And I love the end.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
I love the just swing away and he just the
reflection of them and the TV I oh, I love it.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
And Bridget Jones, of course is one now that I
can watch over and over again.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
The swing away thing is the as much as I
love science, I'm not annoyed that they can't handle water.
People get annoyed by that. I'm like, I'm fine with that.
Lightly annoyed that the big profun thing was swing your
bat at these months. This doesn't feel like, oh, I
hadn't thought of that.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yeah, and they just kind of stand there and take it.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
It's just like, hit, here's how your beaties aliens hit
them with a bat. It doesn't feel like, oh, that's
how I would have done any sort of burglar this
huge secret and he tries to swinging a batt you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
Hey, sometimes the best answer is the most obvious one,
and you know what, I'm here for it. I also,
I feel like I remember watching it and then it
was kind of one of the first movies that I
watched because again I was like a kid when I
watched it. Where there's the moment where it's talked about
in the middle of the movie and then it comes
full circle at the end and just like the like
(44:50):
the I loved that, I think of, oh wow, he
just swinging the bas like I just I loved it.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
So for me, that's kind of a highlight.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
So I like the structure of it. I do have
a real I really do really love that film. Oh
it's so good.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
And Cherry Jones, yes, right, that's her last name, right,
I don't know, it doesn't feel right. I just love
her in that movie too. I love the way she
moves her mouth.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
I don't know, subtle, great mouth moves. Yeah, what's the
worst film you've ever seen? We don't like to be
negative McKenzie, so you can.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
I love all movies, but I think the movie that
I sat down and I love.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
Renee zell Wigger.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
Yeah, But the movie that I sat down and I
was like, wow, this is just a really bad movie
was Case thirty nine.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
Have you ever seen that? I can't even remember.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
I know it's Renee Zellwiger and I and it's like this,
it's like a movie about a kid, but it just
does not It's just to me, isn't a good movie,
but because it was that was a hard one to
answer too. Though the worst film I ever saw. It
just feels I don't know, I don't know what's yours.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
I would never say you kidding me? What is what?
You're in comedy? You're very funny. What's the film that
made you laugh the most?
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Bridesmaids?
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Bridesmaids laugh out, loud, cackle, losing my breath laughing that movie.
Because I'm more of an internal laugher when I watch things,
I'm not so vocal.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Laughing you want okay, it's like.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
But inside I'm losing my mind. And because people will
sit and watch it, like they'll be like, oh, you
have to watch this movie. You're gonna love it. You're
gonna think of and then I'll be sitting and loving it.
But I'm just silent, and they're like, do you hate this?
And I'm like, no, I love it.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Yeah. I don't want us to have a coming to
a live show.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Yeah, no, during all all laugh in a theater. I'll
laugh in a theater. I'm a vocal audience member for
live for live performances. But yeah, oh, another one that
I just think is the one of the funniest movies
of all time.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
Is The Bird Cage.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
It's fucking great, laugh out loud, funny, funny. You can't
even help yourself.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
You can try, you can try, you can't.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
You fail.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Now, Mackenzie Bowman, you've been a pleasure, a delight, a joy. However,
when he was walking around, he was walking around in
New Jersey and a floating mini van driven by aliens
from science had come down. They were going to come
to Earth. But then they realized as they got to
New Jersey, they were like, what's that water? That's water?
(47:29):
They got that blue band that's water. Absolutely not, We're
not going there. And someone's got a baseball bat. No way,
we're not going there. So they but they go, but
we may as well like harvest their organs. And you're
walking around. You were making a TikTok in the street.
You were pretending to be some sort of wise cracking influencer.
Hey it's your girl, McKenzie walking down thing And a
(47:52):
beam of light came down. It picked you up and
you went whoa, and you were like cool, everybody look
at me. Cool. And you get pulled up inside minivan
and there are the aliens for Signs and you're like,
fucking hell, guys, I watched you guys so much. I'm
a huge fan.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
And they go big fan.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
And they stick a scalpel into you and they cut
off parts of your flesh and you go, guys, and
they go, they liquefy it, they drink it, they go
spit it out. Not for us, No, that's not what
these people are for. So then they take another thing
and they pull out one of your kidneys and they
look at it and they heat it up, and then
they go, maybe we could use this on some of
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our family members. And they'll just go, guys, you're still talking.
And then they pull out your spleen and you go,
I don't even know where my spleen was. And then
they stick it pull out your heart and you're like, guy,
you look at your own heart like in the Temple
of Doom. And then you pass dead and then they
cut your head. They fly off to their planet. They
use all your bits to save the planet. I'm walking
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around the the universe, the Solar System with a coffin,
you know what I'm like, And I go, I there's
the guys from SIGNS. I'd love to get you selfie whatever.
I head down and I'm like, hey, guys, how's it going.
You all look really healthy. I heard your planet was
in trouble. They go no, they said, do you know
the actor Mackenzie Barman. They go, yeah, it's brilliants, absolutely
brilliant actor, and they go straight dramatic. I go, yes, drama,
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but I think she's funny. I think she's a comedian
more than if only of I had to put her
in one categoy go, that's a very funny actor. And
they go, well, we we harvested all their organs to
save my planet. I go, oh, shoot, I did think
I hadn't seen it around for a while. I go, well,
can I get any sort of just to put in
the coffin? Because where I'm from sometimes we have burials
(49:35):
and they go, yeah, we'll give you what's left. And
there's a bit of your hair and they couldn't do
anything with that. It was just use listed it. So
we just put your hair in a coffin. And it's like,
luckily I had a very tiny coffin on me. There
was more than that, more hair than I was expected.
Coffin is absolutely full enough room for me to fit
one DVD just to slide for you to take across
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to the other side. And on the other side, it's
movie night every night, and one night it's your movie night.
What film are you going to take to show all
the animals that are trampling you and nuzzling you on
your movie night when it is your movie night. On
the other side, because you moment go.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Such pressure, you know, I'm going to say Independence Day.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
Wow, I think that's the one.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Okay, it kind of and it kind of really it
really ties everything together, you.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Know, And I'm going to I'm going to fly back
to Earth after having done all this, and I'm going
to say to your favorite, your baby brother. He's gonna say,
where is she? And I'm going to go, She's sleeping.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
He'll be like, what do you mean she's she's sleeping.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
I don't think we need to go into anybody details
because I have my own fucking ages. She's sleeping.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
I think that's brilliant. I think that is a great
end to my life and my journey.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Sleep me McKenzie. What should people do to look out
for you? What should they be watching, what should they
be listening to? Should they be seeing you? Live? You
tell us everything please.
Speaker 3 (51:11):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Well, there's things up in the air right now, so
I'm not really totally sure what's going to be next,
but I might be doing my solo show in February ish,
maybe in La So follow me on follow me on
Instagram because TikTok might be shut down. Follow me on Instagram.
I post a lot and you can follow me and
(51:32):
watch my crazy stories and videos and I'll keep you
guys posted on my live shows. I'm submitting for Edinburgh too,
so oh great, we'll see that might happen.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
But yeah, I'm just out.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
Here making content and auditioning a lot, and so hopefully
you guys will see me on something very soon. I'm
manifesting good things for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
McKenzie Bouman. God bless you, congratulations, Thank you for doing this,
wonder Forday for having me. I would stop the recording
good days. So that was episode three hundred and thirty five.
Head over to the Patreon at patreon dot com Forward
Slash Bret Golds team for the extra fifteen minutes of chat,
secrets and video with Mackenzie Barman. Go Chapple podcasts, gio
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US and five, Start writing and write about the film
that means the most to you and why it's a
lovely thing to read. It helps with numbers of My
neighbor Marien really appreciates it. Thank you all for listening.
I hope you're all well. Thank you so much to
Mackenzie for giving me her time. Thanks to Scubius, Pip
and the Distraction Pieces of Network. Thanks to Buddy Peace
for producing it. Thanks to iHeartMedia and Wilferrell's Big Money
Players Network for hosting it. Thanks to Adam Richardson for
the graphics and Lisa Laden for the photography. Come and
(52:33):
join me next week for another incredible guest. But that's
it for now. In the meantime, have a lovely week
and please, now more than ever, be excellent to each others.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
Bas By everybody backs and Sam body and bodys and
backs back by body, backs out, Sam body back back
back
Look out. It's only films to be buried with. Hello,
and welcome to films to be buried with. My name
is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian, an actor, a writer,
a director of Chocolate Tear, and I love films. As
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Brent Smith once said, the ocean is not a wilderness,
It's a garden, which is why in the film The
Secret Garden everyone has to wear wellies and snorkels and whatnot.
Is it every week I invite a special guest over.
I tell them they've died, then I get them to
discuss their life through the films that mend the most
of them. Previous guests include Barry Jenkins, Kevin Smith, Sharon Stone,
and even Rumbles. But this week we have the brilliant
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and hilarious Mackenzie Barman. All episodes are Shrinking Season two,
Season one and two are now available on Apple TV.
Get caught up on every single episode. You'll fucking love it.
Head over to the Patreon at patreon dot com forward
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You'll skeet the whole episode uncat adfree and as a video.
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Check it out over at patreon dot com. Forward slash
Brett Goldstein So McKenzie Barman. You might know her from TikTok.
You might know her viral comedy specials. You might know
her appearance on Comedy Knockout. You might know her from Instagram.
She is very very, very very very funny. If you've
never seen her, look up her Instagram or her TikTok
incredible sketches. We'd never met before. I was a big
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fan of hers. I was very excited to meet her,
and it was lovely to get to know her over zoom.
She's fucking hilarious. I really think you're going to enjoy
this one. So that is it for now. I very
much hope you enjoy episode three hundred and thirty five
of Films to be Buried With. Hello, and welcome to
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Films to be Buried With. It is me Brett Goldstein
and I enjoined today by an actor as sketch, an improvisor,
and its the star, a TikToker star, a social media sensation,
a hero, a legend, a person who is going to
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be very big right before your eyes. Please, welcome to
the show. It's the brilliant. It's becauseie brabit stop.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I'm literally gonna step that as my ring tone. I
swear the most beautiful intro ever.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Mackenzie. Let's be straight. We've never met before.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
We've never met.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
This has happened. We messaged each other. You are hilarious.
I have watched all of your sketches on Instagram. I think,
not only are they so funny and I love you
with your friend Chaz, but they're also the best active sketches.
I've like, you're a seriously good actor. They're really really
(02:50):
funny and so such good acting. It's just brilliant.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
That means so much coming from you. Honestly, that's all
I want to come through. So if it is, that's
that's everything to me.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
It's great and I love you and Chazz. And then
I listened to your podcast and I found out you
and Chazz haven't known each other all your lives, despite
it seeming like you do. No that beautiful.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It's it's so funny because we have the same digital
manager and she kind of set us up through an
event that we were both going to and she was like,
you guys need to meet. You're gonna love each other
and we met at that event and we immediately were
just inseparable, like it's he's like my long lost twin
or something.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Where are you are you in LA?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I'm in LA. I'm in like West Hollywood ish area.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, and basically, why in UNSA now is the question.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I've auditioned. We'll see, We'll see if I ever get it.
I don't know, you know, I'm kind of new to
the comedy world. Like I never really did sketch or
improv in New York when I lived there, I was
more so focused on being a dramatic actress and like
determined to be the next Meryl Streep, which I still amy,
but it was Yeah, it was steel like social media
that I kind of got into comedy. So I'm kind
(03:58):
of I'm getting more in to it now, but yeah,
it's kind of a new world for me.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
So you thought you were a serious person. Yeah, until
very recently. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And I have this acting teacher in New York who
would always tell me that he's like, you know, you
need to do comedy, You're so funny, and I was
determined not to. I was like, I love comedy and
SNL Honestly, was always kind of a dream, but it
never felt like a realistic one, so I just kind
of didn't and now it is. So it's it's the
(04:29):
world has flipped on me in the past couple of years.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
It's very interesting that, I know, everyone wants to be
a serious person, but some people are just funny and
that sit and you have to accept that you're a
funny person. And there's a lot of people who aren't funny,
and they have to accept that they should be a
dramatic actor solely, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I think the best dramatic actors though, are.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Comedic people for sure. I think they can do both and.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
You know, switch between those worlds, which is really what
I want to do. My ideal scenario is to be
on a drama y or some kind of a show
that really and you're really a master at that of
kind of towing that line of drama and comedy and
being grounded and all that.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah. Fun, But also you write all your stuff, right
I do?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah, I kind of write it backwards, like I improvise
everything as I'm doing it and then adjust the lines
kind of as I go. I'm not really good at
sitting and writing. But I write in my brain and
then I'll copy it onto paper, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, you also have a I mean listen, I'm really,
really a fan. There's a cinematic language that you have
done where you are talking to yourself in these sketches
and the way I was thinking, the way you framed
them is really smart. You're also a good cinematographer. I mean, really,
you really listen. Meryl Street can't frame a shop. It's
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a wonderful actor. I wouldn't handle the camera, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Like, yeah, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I apologize.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
She could be listening right now. Well, it's funny because
I used to run a demo reel production company when
I lived in the city, and that was kind of
like a vehicle because for the longest time I had
such a hard time getting representation because people were like, oh,
you're great.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
We just don't know what to do with you.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And it was kind of during the time of doing
your own work and putting yourself out there and that's
how you'll you'll make it. And so I started a
demo reel company because I was like, it gives me
the power to write and also direct and shoot and edit,
and I could learn everything, So I think that helped
a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
That's interesting. So what you you have? You still have
this company?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Not really, I really don't. It was kind of weird
transitioning from New York to LA because I feel like
in LA it's more in demand that kind of service.
In New York, I feel And I also got so
into doing social media that that kind of became because
that was really my job, you know, and then I
kind of didn't need it anymore, so I just kind
of let it go. But I still do love it,
(07:06):
and if somebody came to me and wanted to shoot
a reel, I'd be like, yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
So you've been making two films for people all this time.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, I think I have like over one hundred of
scenes that I've written four other people, because I love people,
and I love specificity and kind of like creating something
that's super targeted for somebody, So I would meet with
them and then figure out exactly what they want to
do and bridging that gap of like what they want
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to be and what the industry sees them as, and
then kind of writing scenes for them and it's I
love it. It's a really fun thing to do.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, you write the scenes for them as well. I
mean you're one person industry.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah. I did have a partner who wrote for a
while and then I kind of took over and started
writing the scenes. But yeah, and I've I've written a
pilot and I've written I just did my one woman
show at New York Comedy Festival and I created it
was so good. It was It was really daunting because
for the longest time I've been like, you know, comedic
people and comedians. I don't really consider myself a comedian,
(08:09):
but I feel like we need to have an hour
of something, you know. And my manager for the I
mistakenly told her two years ago. I was like, I'm
working on a one woman's show. And so she's been
knocking down my door ever since. And then New York
Comedy Festival rolled around and she was like, hey, let's
submit for this, and I was like, you know what, Okay, yeah,
let's do it. So I submitted a concept and I
didn't really even have anything really yet because I'm.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
A fraud.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
And so I was like, okay, well whatever, And so
having the deadline of knowing Okay, there's a show on
this date. Whether I'm ready for it or not. It
kind of lit the fire under me to get me
doing it. And yeah, it was a show that it
had a plot and it had a through line, but
it was also kind of a variety show. I did
a bunch of characters, but it dipped into drama. There
were a couple of musical numbers, and I just wanted
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to kind of be like, here's the show of everything
I can do.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
What was the plot.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
It's called work in progress, and the plot is that
it's the last rehearsal before the show, and so I'm
running through all the tech with my my tech person
who actually Chaz played. He was my tech guy, and
the show was mostly improvised, but.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
It was kind of beat out.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
And I'm waiting on this call from my manager that
I went to producers for this project and I basically
have the role, and I'm just waiting on this call,
and then I kind.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Of do a bunch of bits.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
He's hating everything I'm doing the whole time, and at
the end of it, I get the call and it
turns out I didn't get it, and so it's just
this like immense disappointment, and I kind of go onto
this rant of like what am I doing?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Like what if I don't make it? What do I do?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
And it's kind of revealed then that Chaz is not
actually my tech guy, but he is my subconscious. So
it's me hating everything I'm doing and being super self critical.
And then there's another twist that I won't spoil in
case we ever do in La do you want it out?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I can tell you.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
So then the other twist is that he's not actually
my subconscious, but this whole show was his audition to
play that part. So so then he comes down at
the very end and he's like, oh, thank you, so
good to meet you. And then he starts to walk
off the stage and he's like, well, was was any
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of that phone call bit real? Because that wasn't in
the script. And I'm like, oh, yeah, no, it's a bit.
It's it's all a bit. And then at the very
end you're kind of left wondering like was it a bit?
And then the phone call rings at the very end,
and it turns out Florence Pugh, who got the role
over me, turned it down. So by the end of
the show, I actually do get the role and that's
the Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
No, I had to have a happy ending for myself.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I like that. I like that very much. Thank you
well McKenzie. Yeah, I yes, I've watched his sketches. But
I have forgotten to tell you something. And fuck, it's
bad because we just met. You seemed like laugh, But
I guess I have to tell you you've died. That's
(11:08):
a bummer, it is it kind of Yeah, how did
you die?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I was abducted? Whoa, I was abducted by one of
these drones that are flying over New Jersey and yeah,
and it sucked me up and I'm gone, I'm just
I'm gone.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Wait, I'm going to need a little more detail. It
sucked you into a drone. And what a little drone.
So it sucked you in and crustal your bones.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Well, it wasn't one.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
It was one of the six.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
It was one of the drones the size of a
mini van that we thought was a drone, but it
turns out it actually was a UAP. It was a
flying minivan and I got sucked up in it and
they experimented on me until there was nothing left.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Oh my god, there was nothing left, like they were
like sort of cutting bits off you.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I think so. I think it hardst me, Yeah, from
the inside out.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Oh so maybe maybe it was for a good cause.
Maybe I'm being useful in another dimension.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
You know, you're like a Dina for aliens, an alien.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah. Yeah, I like to think. I like to think that.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah that's not bad, is it? Kenzie? You did some good?
Indian could be worse? Yeah. Do you worry about death?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Hmmm?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I used to worry a lot more about it.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Why did you stop?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I mean, it's it's it's something that when I when
it does come into my mind, it's like a startling thought.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Of like, oh that is going to happen to me someday.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
But I almost feel like I've become more spiritual, not
religious really, but I've become more spiritual over the past
like few years, and so I kind of at this
point feel like death maybe is just another step in
life and that we something else happens after.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
So I try to.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Be positive about it, but I guess I do when
I don't you know.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
How many steps are there? If death is the next step?
Is there more after that? Are they're different phases?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I think so yeah, I do believe in like old
souls and newer souls, and like the idea of a
reincarnation kind of thing where it's like we choose the
lives we live maybe a little. And I think I
love the idea of reaching enlightenment and that you know,
you're you're cycling through all these lives to learn different
lessons and then eventually you're like done and then you
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can just live in peace forever. That's kind of where
I like to live.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, well, number life do you think you're I.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Think I've lived a lot. I think I maybe like
nine or ten.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Oh. How many did you think you have to go for?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I don't know, maybe twenty oh, But that feels like
a low number. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
If you've got, if you've got to experience all of
youman existence, I think more than that.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
So maybe maybe maybe I've experienced about twenty and let's say,
maybe I'm halfway there.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Maybe I'm halfway there.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Thought, I mean, I was thinking it was Billy Billy.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Well, yeah, I guess it does go on infinitely.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Listen. I believe in this same thing, but the idea
of having just more and more of it, it impresses me,
twenty would be.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Great, but twenty is nice.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, I suspect it's a lot more, particularly because every
every you know, I sort of go like, oh, yeah,
I've done pretty good. But then you still make mistakes,
you still up every time. I will go the fuck
I'm gonna have to go around again.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I have that same thought.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
I'm like, shoot, I shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Now I'm gonna have to do did the whole fucking
thing again?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yeah, it's actually kind of miserable when you think about it.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I think forty. I think forty is a baby forty.
You know, forty damn dumb.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Oh god, you're making me rethink all of this.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah, well no, I'm just thinking. I just I just
don't believe forty is enough to learn everything you need
to learn.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
What's what's a good number for you?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
What are you thinking?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Billions?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I think it's a billion. I think if there's what
is there nine billion people in the world. Yeah, if
it's a billion, I mean, and it's still believe you're
trying not to mess up with.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
I said, oh, we'll meet somewhere in the middle. Five
hundred million, five hundred million.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I'm exhausted thinking about all these lives. Yeah, well and
you're only on number ten.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Well now now with that logic, no, I think I'm
further along. We'll say I'm closer to four hundred million,
then big jump.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
But okay, yeah, yeah buy.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
That because because you know, you meet people who are
who you just like, I don't know, I don't know
if you're you are good at picking up on energy,
but I feel like I am, Like I can sense
when somebody's like kind of green to this, to this experience.
I'm like, oh, you haven't done this a lot, have you. Yeah,
Like my niece, I know is an old soul, but
I think my nephew is like a newer soul.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah. There's someone I worked with is very very old,
and there's another person I work with. It's like, oh,
this is your first time. Yeah, it's like a golden retriever. Like, oh,
you're like a new book, You're fresh out of the box.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah, all of this is new to you.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Like he's yeah, where do you think you are in
the in your journey?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I hope I'm like, Oka, Jesus, I hope I'm like
four hundred and ninety nine million, because.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Only only one million ward ago.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Jesus.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
But I love that idea. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I love the idea of like doing your life with
people multiple times, like those people in your life that
you just feel a soul tie to and you're just like,
I know, we've done this before in a different way, in.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
A different configuration.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I like when people do like past life digressions and
they go, oh, my wife is my dad, and I'm like, okay.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, I would love to do one of those. Have
you ever done one?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah? I am. Yeah. I didn't know if it was
legit or not. It was like in the back of
a car.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Oh actually, that sounds like about as legit as you
can get. That sounds like where it would happen in
some back alley.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
It was in the back of a car on the
way to Disneyland, but you know, it seems but when
it was happening, well, honestly, what I thought was, I
think I'm just telling a story in my head, because yeah,
you know, I'm sort of writing a cool story that
I'm imagining. But I'm sure it's yeah real, You're just
giving me these prompts, and I'm like I would in
a fucking writer's you know what.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I mean, well, that's how I feel. I get these
like tarot card reading things that pop up on my
TikTok of like people giving you a reading through the phone,
and I'm so like, I'm like, this is meant for me.
It's like they can say one word and I'm like,
this is directly a message for me, a comfort.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, well, I think that's how those things work in it.
I also realized that saying that if anyone's worried that
I've been in La too long, that I quite casually
said the sentence, yeah, I did a past life regressed
in the back of a car on the way to
Disney Life.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
That's so La.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
You need to come home, Brett, Brett, you need to
come home.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
This is not right. This is not right.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Oh my gosh, tell me what. So the in between?
You have five hundred million lives, the big way you
die in each life. What happens in the middle. Is
there a gap? Do you get a holiday before you
have to go back?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I think there's like a reflection period. There's a woman
that I follow. Her name is Dolores. I can't remember
her last name, but she's like an older woman who
just I just believe everything she says and she's experienced
this or seen it or whatever. Where I think that
there's a period where you go and you're greeted by
your loved ones, whatever that looks like, and you have
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this reflection period of like looking back at the life
you just lived, working through it, because I don't I
feel like our human consciousness is not the same as
like when we're like our soul consciousness, you know, like
we're I don't think we're gonna look back at it
in the same way as we're.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Experiencing it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah, So I think there's like a reflection period, and
then I think there's you get maybe a little bit
of a break, a little hiatus before you're you're you're
jolted back in a little respit.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
You think. Do you think in heaven they call it
a hiatus. Oh, you're on hiatus.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
You're on hiatus. I hope you get picked up for
season two.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I hope we get picks up of season four hundred
and ninety nine minute as well. Yeah I don't. I'm
hoping we get canceled. We can stay here. Oh my gosh, Well, Mackenzie,
good news. There is a heaven, do you believe it?
And it is filled with your favorite thing? What's your
favorite thing?
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Animals?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
It fuck, it is like a safari in a way.
There's so many animals in it. It's like a zoo
and a safari, but everyone's But the animals are free.
But they are all in heaven and they're jumping on you.
Not the ones with hoofs, the soft ones and the
ones with hoo's are just like walking around. You pat
them and stuff and you're very friend. The ones with
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who's nuzzle you?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yeah no, I love that.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah yeah, yeah, little head.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah. But the ones with paus they jump on you.
And that does include tigers.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I'm fine with that.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Panthers and elephants don't have who's so obviously there was
a jumping on you anything anything with that shoe zone
might be a danger, but fine, yeah you yeah, you
die again.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Hey, I'm fine.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I'm fine if I die by animals trampling me.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
That's a good way to go in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah. Yeah, anyway, they're all very excited to see you.
These animals. They want to talk to you about your life,
but they want to talk about your life through film,
which is weird. Did it? It's like, and the first
thing they want to know is what is the first
film you remember seeing? McKenzie Baron.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
You know, my memory is pretty bad, but I remember
the first movie. The first movie I really remember seeing
was Jurassic Park. And I think I was like four
or five maybe, and my dad was a movie guy,
so we would always either go to the movies or
watch a movie at night at home, and Jurassic Park
is just like a staple in my brain of like
my young mind seeing that movie.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Did it scare you? Is that way you? Like? Adam?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I think it thrilled me. I think it It wasn't
so scary.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
It is thrilling.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
It's thrilling.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
And I think I was like the raptors were scary,
I think, but I think the fantasy of the world
and like my young mind being like, somewhere on this planet,
this is happening for real, I think. I just I
remember being amazed by that movie.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
I still am It's.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
A great fucking movie.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
It's so good and the cast is so stacked.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
It's so good, so good.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, Sam Neil and Laura den Right right on screen, couple.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Amazing and I loved their clothes I remember thinking they
looked so cool and they're safari outfits.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
They do have clue clothes, they do. Do you have
brothers and sisters?
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah, I'm the oldest of four.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
What Yeah, we kind did the other three.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I have two brothers, one who's thirty one and the
other one is twenty four, and then my sister who's
in the middle of them. So it goes girl boy,
girl boy. My sister is twenty eight. So we're two years,
three years and four years apart.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Are you old close?
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah? Yeah, we are.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
We've kind of we're not as I mean, we are close.
My brother lives in Florida and I'm in California, so
I really don't see him much at all, but we're
all still really close. We were all really close as kids.
We fought a lot, but.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
All right, did you raise them?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah kind of. So yeah, my parents were divorced when
I was in fifth grade, and so I definitely took
on like a maternal role. They would say bossy, but
I would say maternal.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Then listen to this, he's your favorite.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Oh God, that's really hard.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I think my baby you had it was I do
I feel like my baby brother. My sister is my
sister and I are so close. But my baby brother,
I just feel is the most like me. He's really funny,
and he's so quick, amazing at impressions, like it's unreal
how good he is. But he doesn't he doesn't utilize that.
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So I'm I'm always trying to get it out of him.
I'm trying to get him moved to la with me.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Actually, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
He's just he's the best and he's he's Yeah, I
love him.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
His name is Laife Laife life.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Like yeah, like Leif Erickson, Laife l E I f
Norwegian life.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Life yeah, life.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
With those impressions. And I'm sorry to you. Your other
brother and.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Sister, Yeah, they'll never hear this.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
What is the film that made you cry? The mis
crying like your other brother and sister right there? What
is the film made Are you a cry?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
M Oh, I'm a crier. Yeah, I love it. I
love to cry.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I cry a lot on my sketches too, just for
fun because people love it.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
I think a movie, there's a.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Few, So Titanic was one that really got me because
i'm that was the one that I remember watching pretty
Too with my mom, which I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I watch that movie with my mom at such a
young age.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
It was pretty steamy for a little kid to watch,
but the end just sobbing, like, especially with the old
couple in the bed when they would hug each other
and you knew that it was their last moment.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
I just would lose my mind every time.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
I still really can't watch it without completely losing my mind.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Yeah, that one.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
And then have you ever seen Big Fish McKenzie?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
That might be? That's in my top three answer is
a film that might be Pid of My Step That's Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
It's one of the best movies ever made, and it
always makes me feel good.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I haven't watched that film much because I loved it
so much, but it destroyed me so much that I
have been scared to go back. I think it's a
fucking amazing film.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
That is, It's an amazing film. Like everything about it.
I think it's Yeah, it's dreamy and it's exciting, and
it's it's just such beautiful storytelling and it's oh, just
Jessica Lang in it. Oh, everyone is amazing.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I mean anything Father's and Macona. Do you you've got
dad issues?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Probably? I think so. Yeah, I love my dad. But
for sure, well because my parents were divorced when I
was in fifth grade, so there was definitely like this,
you know dad on every other weekend and Tuesday Thursdays,
and you know, and my dad. I love him, and
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he's the kind of person that would do anything for you.
But we don't have too many I don't think I've
ever had like a real deep emotional conversation with him.
It's almost awkward and intimidating to like go there. But yeah,
like any like any comedic woman in their early thirties,
I'm sure I have daddy issues like comedians.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
It's okay, It's okay. That's a fucking great film. I
love is so hard. I know it's my love, but
I think he's one of my favorite access Now I've
said it out loud for the first time ever. I
love him. Yeah, talk about daddy issues. Daddy Warbucks.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Come on, I know the films. He's somebody who just
he emotes, you know, like you can't help but feel
something when he's speaking.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
You know, Matty war Box, I forgot.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
What is the film that scared you the most? Do
you like being scared?
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I love being scared. I'll watch a scary movie anytime.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
When you're right, You're right.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah, I'll watch it in the dark by myself in
my one bedroom apartment. And my sister is the complete opposite.
She's like, I literally could never but I love being scared.
I actually watched Well, it's not really scary anymore, but
I watched Signs this morning, just you know, because of
where we are in the times.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
I love Signs. I love Signs. It's on my list,
I think and here.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
But the movie that scared me the most as a
kid was The Blair Witch Project because I thought it
was so real. I thought it was real. That one
and a Nightmare on Elm Street is still so scary
to me. Have you seen that one?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I have seen that one, and I was talking with
my friend the other day. It's as it hasn't been tucked.
That's a good idea. The concept you must brilliant orilliance.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
And I remember when I first saw it because my
my aunt's girlfriend had brought it over. I must have
been in middle school. She brought it over. We'd never
seen it, and there was a scene in the movie
where I was like, we have to turn this off.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I can't watch this, like I'm gonna lose my mind.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
It's when they're going down the hallway and I think
that she's I can't remember if she's being dragged or
if she's there's like a school hallway scene.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Zip buddy beg. Yes.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I was like turn it off.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
And I still really have trouble watching that movie. So scary.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Just the concept.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Do you terrible when you're watching on your own scary films?
Do you have a guy too far? Do you have
a guy? I regret doing this because now I'm really
scared in my house.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah, that happened to me recently. I actually it happened
in a movie theater. I went and saw a movie.
I can't remember what it was, but it was scary.
It was during Halloween time, and I remember I watched
it at the grove and I was like walking in
the parking garage and I was like, something's following me.
Like I was so scared and I didn't want to
get in my car. I hate being in my car
alone at night. It's just I don't feel alone. It
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was really yeah, yeah, I go too far? Yeah, and
then I have to put on the office or something.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
What is the film that you love it is not
generally critically acclaimed, but you love it. You don't care
what others think of you.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
There's a couple, okay, The wicker Man, Nicholas ca Okay, right,
and I'm not sure what the acclaim is on it,
but I know that it's like a bad Yeah, it's yeah,
but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I love Nicholas Cage.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Anything that man does, I'll watch and I don't know,
there's just something about it that I love. And also
the Village, which I don't know. I love the village
and that's something. When I tell people they're like, that
was a horrible movie, I'm like, no, it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
You're wrong.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
I think is actively a good film, good, well, good, Yeah,
The Wickhedman. I I haven't actually seen the Nicholas ks Wickhedmen,
but I know, I know he screams at the bees, the.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Bees, not the bees, not the beecet. Yeah, it's crazy.
And then of course, like the one of the worst
movies of all time, The Room by Tommy Wisseau, I'll
watch it.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I think it's fascinating to I don't like enjoy it,
but I find it fascinating.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
It is from the little that I know about him.
It's almost like it's not that he's.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
In on the joke, but it's that he's completely unaware
of it but also fully aware of it at the
same time.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I can't explain it.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
The whole thing is fucking weird.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
It's a phenomenon, it really is.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
It is. And I once saw a film that's kind
of room level back in terms of sort of technically
room level bad, but it was so entertaining. I was like,
I'm not bored. I mean, I've seen better films that
bored me. Like I kind of think maybe this is
maybe this is it, Maybe this.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Is I don't know, artists objective, you know, it's not boring.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
That's I think that's my yeah base. If I'm bored,
that's a problem. But if it's like terrible, but I'm like,
I've never seen anything like this.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
That's the room I like, I can't. I've seen it
multiple times. Yeah, and it does grab you, like You're like,
I can't look away. And you also have to applaud
You really have to have respect for the hustle because
he just he he was determined to make that movie
and he did it. And now look, it's like everyone
has seen it. It's you know, yeah, it's true.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
So what is, on the other hand, a film that
you used to love your voice recently and you've thought, oh,
I don't like this anymore. It might not be the
film's fault, just that you've changed.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
This one was the toughest one for me to answer, because.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I I don't know, really, I think a movie that
doesn't hold up for me because of the messaging maybe
is shallow howl.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Yeah, but it's it's a it's a it's a. Really
I loved that movie.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
There was a because that was like during a time
where you could kind of do anything you wanted in
comedy and no one was gonna fault you for it.
And the movie is wild, you know, like you have
to have a spell on you to be attracted to
an overweight person. And at that time we were just
like yeah. But watching it now, you're like.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Oh my god. It also doesn't make sense. The concept
doesn't make any sense because the message is beauty is
on the inside. It isn't about how you look, but
the film to portray that message goes so that would
have to look like Wwinnip Paltrow.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Right right, Yeah, she has to be really hot.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
She has to be really hot for you to learn
the lessons. She doesn't have to be hot, but for
us to get this message across to the audience, she
has to be hot.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, it melts my brain.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
It really is a brain melter. It really is.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
And another one that is just when you watch it now,
you're just like, whoa like the vf are crazy? Is
the Mummy Returns? What a crazy movie?
Speaker 3 (32:07):
And I loved the Mummy franchise.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I think I own it on VHS somewhere, like I
loved those movies, so at the time, I think I
loved it. And watching it now, if you watch a
clip of like the Rock as as the Scorpion King,
well he was the Rock then now he's Dyne Johnson,
Jayne the Rock Johnson. But it's it's insane. It's insane.
Watch it. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Okay, I'm gonna go. Mummy Returns. What is the film
that means the most to you? Not necessarily the film
itself is good, but the experience you had seen it
will always make it special to you.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Kenzie, I have a few answers for this one too.
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is just that might
be a cliche answer, but it's.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Just I watched it during.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
A period of my time when I like, I had
my first real boyfriend and we watched it together and
it was just like this, it stuck with me as
such a memorable Not all me is the film amazing,
but it just happened during a really interesting.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Time in my life. So that one and then.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Her is also a movie that I mean, I have
a closter rob it. It's I love that movie and
that I don't really know why it has a lot
of meaning to me, honestly, but it just does.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Just I think is a film about my heart. Take
on what Her is. Yeah, I think Her is Spike
Jones's apology to Sofia Coppola after their divorce. That's why
I think that film is I think interesting. Unless I've
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misread it, it's about a man who is lonely and
seeking connection and whatever. That that stuff is the surface stuff,
but it's kind of about a man realizing he's not
a great guy and that he's not been very good
in the relationship in his past relationship.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Mm hmmm, I'm like so disconnected from the real people.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Around him exactly, and having not paid attention to the woman.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
That was his who cared about him.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
I think that's a great take.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
I don't know if that's a hot I think that's
a really good take.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Okay, you're welcome.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I'm also just such a big fan of Joaquin Phoenix,
and I think when I saw it it was kind
of unlike any movie I'd really seen, and especially now
with Ai and how this is kind of a reality now.
It's just it. It always just hits that I don't know.
I have to rewatch it. I haven't seen it in
a long time actually, but yeah, those ones. Did I
write anything else down?
Speaker 1 (34:35):
No?
Speaker 3 (34:36):
That was it. Nothing else I was reading to me.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
I will say. Another movie that has a lot of
meaning for me. I can't believe I forgot about this
is the Never Ending Story.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
You seen it?
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yes, okay, good.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I think that was a movie that I watched on
repeat a lot as a kid, and I think it
was a form of escapism for me, like going through
you know, my parents' divorce and all the it was
pretty rough time. So that just you I was a
single mom at ten, I mean, come on, come on,
So that movie has so I think it's still one
(35:11):
of the best movies ever made to this day. Yeah,
it holds up for me, even even though it doesn't.
I guess even though it doesn't, it holds up for me.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
That's nice. Nice. Yeah, what's the film you relate to?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Bridget Jones's diary? I am her and she is me.
I swear if they were to redo that movie now.
I know they're coming out with a new one in
twenty in February, and I cannot wait. But I think
if they were to redo it and say, okay, we
need a new bridge at Jones, like look no further,
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like it is me.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah, she's just.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
So quirky and fun and like odd but charming, and
I like to think that's how I am and chronically single,
you know, so I think we're just we're one and
the same. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Does it annoy you the British Giane's Diary exists? Because
would you like to write Britigeize's diary?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
No, I'm I couldn't even be mad that it exists.
You know, It's funny. I watched it for the first
time like three weeks ago, four weeks ago. Oh really,
and I had like a moment of like, how have
I I think I watched it as a kid because
Renees Elwigger is my dad's favorite person on the planet.
He's obsessed with her. He like forced us to watch
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all of her movies. And I think when I was young,
I just didn't appreciate it, or I didn't really pay
attention because I was I was talking about it on
Instagram and my dad messaged me and he was like,
you have seen this movie.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
I'm like, I don't. Oh, I don't think I have.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
But I think it's the best movie ever. And I
can't even be mad that it's that it's already made,
even though I am.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I love the sequel.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
I love I love all of them.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
I love all yeah, and people say that's the worst one.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Disagree.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I think think every move, all three of them I
think are perfect. I even love the Patrick Duncy one.
I think they're so good. But I like that that
one was closer to the first one time wise, you know.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
I mean, it's it's right after you know it happens.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
But I just I think they're the I think, Oh,
I just think it's the perfect movie, perfect casting.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
I need to be her. I love her.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
I think that can happen. What is the sexiest film
you've ever seen, Mackenzie.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
B you know, I think Interview with the Vampire is
one of the sexiest movies ever.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Great show, and I don't think that's kind of up
on this really.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Wow, I'm surprised it's such a sexy movie.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yeah, yeah, you can have that.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah, I mean I don't. I don't think Kirsten Dunst
is a child is sexy in it. It's the vampire
men cut the still. But my god, okay, okay, but
a young young Tom Cruise and a young Bra I mean,
like it's just and the makeup and like the mood
(38:07):
and the lighting and the tone of it.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
It's just it's just it's a sexy movie.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Is a sexy mood? What is there's a sub category
to this, Mackenzie. I'm sorry, we've only just met, but
it's trampling bon is worrying. Why donce a film you
found the rousing that you weren't sure you should?
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Okay wait I wrote this with that too, So this
one was also tough to answer. But I think there's
a cartoon movie that as a kid I was so
attracted to the lead was the movie Spirit.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
It's like about a horse.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah, you were attracted to the hole spirit he was.
He was so cute to me with his heaves done.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Even with the hooves, he can trample me in heaven.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
You know, I'll take it. I Oh, he was just
a cutie.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
And I think Avatar oddly was very I don't even know.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
If a rousing is the right word, but I found it.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
I found them sexy people, you know, sex see yeah, yeah,
you're like, I shouldn't be turned on, but I kind
of am, you know. And another one, the last one
is because of one character in the movie. And this
is another one likes as kind of like a kid
teenager watching it was the Santa Claus, the role of Bernard. Yeah,
not Tim Allan, but Bernard, who was like the head elf.
(39:19):
He was like he was a bit of a sexual awakening.
I think for me as a as a young person.
I can't remember his name, Oh David, yeah, yeah, yeah,
as a little girl. He had like that curly hair
and that cool weird hat and like the outfit. And
(39:40):
that was another one where it's just like, ooh, I'm
like hot and heavy for this elf.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
And yeah, aroused.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
What is objectively the greatest film of all time?
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Objectively not your favorite Interstellar wonderful. I think that's just
gotta be.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
The issues.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
There we go, There, we go. True.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Yeah, that one. It's just mind blowing.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
And they're doing an Imax release of it right now
that I really want to go see it.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
I was going to see that, Yeah, it's it. Yeah,
And I read a really like great article about it
where it was sort of like the thing that people
didn't like when it came out is the thing that
has made it last, which is essentially that love is
a kind of physical thing that binds the universe. Yeah,
and I think when it first came out everyone was like,
this is cheesy, and there it was like so beautiful.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah, it's so beautiful and it's just so visually accurate.
And I love how it was like the first visual
of a black hole that was like what it would
actually look like and how time would actually bend, and
how like I love the realistic elements of it because
I just I'm I'm a freak.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
For like space stuff too. I love I love it.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
I love talking about the stars and how time goes
on forever, Like I love conversations like that. So that
movie just kind of took all of that and put
it in, you know, two and a half hours.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
I loved it.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Have you seen the film that I loved that's incredibly dark?
Most people didn't like it. It's got Robert Patterson in it,
High Life. No you see the film High Life?
Speaker 3 (41:26):
No should?
Speaker 1 (41:26):
I I think he should. I love it very much.
But it is about a spaceship of prisoners on a mission,
on a sort of kamikaze mission to go through a
black hole. So there's like it's very dark.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
That's right up my alley.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Yeah, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
I think, Oh, I got to check it out. I
love him too.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Yeah, he's great.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
He's so good and I love I just love his
journey too, of like Twilight being the movie that launched
him and him being just so determined to be such
like a series as actor and just succeeding at I
just I love him for that.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Yeah, he's like the opposite of your journey.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
What is the film? You could? Or have watched? The
mist over and over again?
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Pride and Prejudice. I've seen probably about three hundred times,
the Matthew mcfaden version. I still haven't watched a Colin
Firth version because I know I'm gonna be so obsessed
with it. Yeah, it's because I love him so much.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yeah, he's your boy. He's my boy from three weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
He's your boy. He's my lock screen on my phone.
I love him.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
But I love Matthew mcfaden as well.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
And I just think that movie.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
I there was a week last year, I think during
around right before I moved out to LA where I
just watched it every single day of the week. I
couldn't get enough of it. That movie I could watch
over and over again. Also, Signs I could watch over
and over and over again.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
It's great. Signs it's great.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
It's so great.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
And I love this scene. It slips Mel Gibson, but
the scene where he tells the story of the kid's birth.
I think it's great perform I I love it.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
It's so good. There are so many moments in that
film that are just so good. Like I love when
Joaquin Phoenix is in the office with the general and
he's giving the speech about Oh, I don't even remember
what the speech. I just watched it, but he's giving
the speech and just the way he delivers it and
the way it's shot, it's almost so slimy and weird
and I just love it.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
And I love the end.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
I love the just swing away and he just the
reflection of them and the TV I oh, I love it.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
And Bridget Jones, of course is one now that I
can watch over and over again.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
The swing away thing is the as much as I
love science, I'm not annoyed that they can't handle water.
People get annoyed by that. I'm like, I'm fine with that.
Lightly annoyed that the big profun thing was swing your
bat at these months. This doesn't feel like, oh, I
hadn't thought of that.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yeah, and they just kind of stand there and take it.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
It's just like, hit, here's how your beaties aliens hit
them with a bat. It doesn't feel like, oh, that's
how I would have done any sort of burglar this
huge secret and he tries to swinging a batt you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
Hey, sometimes the best answer is the most obvious one,
and you know what, I'm here for it. I also,
I feel like I remember watching it and then it
was kind of one of the first movies that I
watched because again I was like a kid when I
watched it. Where there's the moment where it's talked about
in the middle of the movie and then it comes
full circle at the end and just like the like
(44:50):
the I loved that, I think of, oh wow, he
just swinging the bas like I just I loved it.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
So for me, that's kind of a highlight.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
So I like the structure of it. I do have
a real I really do really love that film. Oh
it's so good.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
And Cherry Jones, yes, right, that's her last name, right,
I don't know, it doesn't feel right. I just love
her in that movie too. I love the way she
moves her mouth.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
I don't know, subtle, great mouth moves. Yeah, what's the
worst film you've ever seen? We don't like to be
negative McKenzie, so you can.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
I love all movies, but I think the movie that
I sat down and I love.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
Renee zell Wigger.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
Yeah, But the movie that I sat down and I
was like, wow, this is just a really bad movie
was Case thirty nine.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
Have you ever seen that? I can't even remember.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
I know it's Renee Zellwiger and I and it's like this,
it's like a movie about a kid, but it just
does not It's just to me, isn't a good movie,
but because it was that was a hard one to
answer too. Though the worst film I ever saw. It
just feels I don't know, I don't know what's yours.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
I would never say you kidding me? What is what?
You're in comedy? You're very funny. What's the film that
made you laugh the most?
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Bridesmaids?
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Bridesmaids laugh out, loud, cackle, losing my breath laughing that movie.
Because I'm more of an internal laugher when I watch things,
I'm not so vocal.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Laughing you want okay, it's like.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
But inside I'm losing my mind. And because people will
sit and watch it, like they'll be like, oh, you
have to watch this movie. You're gonna love it. You're
gonna think of and then I'll be sitting and loving it.
But I'm just silent, and they're like, do you hate this?
And I'm like, no, I love it.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Yeah. I don't want us to have a coming to
a live show.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Yeah, no, during all all laugh in a theater. I'll
laugh in a theater. I'm a vocal audience member for
live for live performances. But yeah, oh, another one that
I just think is the one of the funniest movies
of all time.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
Is The Bird Cage.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
It's fucking great, laugh out loud, funny, funny. You can't
even help yourself.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
You can try, you can try, you can't.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
You fail.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Now, Mackenzie Bowman, you've been a pleasure, a delight, a joy. However,
when he was walking around, he was walking around in
New Jersey and a floating mini van driven by aliens
from science had come down. They were going to come
to Earth. But then they realized as they got to
New Jersey, they were like, what's that water? That's water?
(47:29):
They got that blue band that's water. Absolutely not, We're
not going there. And someone's got a baseball bat. No way,
we're not going there. So they but they go, but
we may as well like harvest their organs. And you're
walking around. You were making a TikTok in the street.
You were pretending to be some sort of wise cracking influencer.
Hey it's your girl, McKenzie walking down thing And a
(47:52):
beam of light came down. It picked you up and
you went whoa, and you were like cool, everybody look
at me. Cool. And you get pulled up inside minivan
and there are the aliens for Signs and you're like,
fucking hell, guys, I watched you guys so much. I'm
a huge fan.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
And they go big fan.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
And they stick a scalpel into you and they cut
off parts of your flesh and you go, guys, and
they go, they liquefy it, they drink it, they go
spit it out. Not for us, No, that's not what
these people are for. So then they take another thing
and they pull out one of your kidneys and they
look at it and they heat it up, and then
they go, maybe we could use this on some of
(48:29):
our family members. And they'll just go, guys, you're still talking.
And then they pull out your spleen and you go,
I don't even know where my spleen was. And then
they stick it pull out your heart and you're like, guy,
you look at your own heart like in the Temple
of Doom. And then you pass dead and then they
cut your head. They fly off to their planet. They
use all your bits to save the planet. I'm walking
(48:51):
around the the universe, the Solar System with a coffin,
you know what I'm like, And I go, I there's
the guys from SIGNS. I'd love to get you selfie whatever.
I head down and I'm like, hey, guys, how's it going.
You all look really healthy. I heard your planet was
in trouble. They go no, they said, do you know
the actor Mackenzie Barman. They go, yeah, it's brilliants, absolutely
brilliant actor, and they go straight dramatic. I go, yes, drama,
(49:14):
but I think she's funny. I think she's a comedian
more than if only of I had to put her
in one categoy go, that's a very funny actor. And
they go, well, we we harvested all their organs to
save my planet. I go, oh, shoot, I did think
I hadn't seen it around for a while. I go, well,
can I get any sort of just to put in
the coffin? Because where I'm from sometimes we have burials
(49:35):
and they go, yeah, we'll give you what's left. And
there's a bit of your hair and they couldn't do
anything with that. It was just use listed it. So
we just put your hair in a coffin. And it's like,
luckily I had a very tiny coffin on me. There
was more than that, more hair than I was expected.
Coffin is absolutely full enough room for me to fit
one DVD just to slide for you to take across
(49:56):
to the other side. And on the other side, it's
movie night every night, and one night it's your movie night.
What film are you going to take to show all
the animals that are trampling you and nuzzling you on
your movie night when it is your movie night. On
the other side, because you moment go.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Such pressure, you know, I'm going to say Independence Day.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
Wow, I think that's the one.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Okay, it kind of and it kind of really it
really ties everything together, you.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Know, And I'm going to I'm going to fly back
to Earth after having done all this, and I'm going
to say to your favorite, your baby brother. He's gonna say,
where is she? And I'm going to go, She's sleeping.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
He'll be like, what do you mean she's she's sleeping.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
I don't think we need to go into anybody details
because I have my own fucking ages. She's sleeping.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
I think that's brilliant. I think that is a great
end to my life and my journey.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Sleep me McKenzie. What should people do to look out
for you? What should they be watching, what should they
be listening to? Should they be seeing you? Live? You
tell us everything please.
Speaker 3 (51:11):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Well, there's things up in the air right now, so
I'm not really totally sure what's going to be next,
but I might be doing my solo show in February ish,
maybe in La So follow me on follow me on
Instagram because TikTok might be shut down. Follow me on Instagram.
I post a lot and you can follow me and
(51:32):
watch my crazy stories and videos and I'll keep you
guys posted on my live shows. I'm submitting for Edinburgh too,
so oh great, we'll see that might happen.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
But yeah, I'm just out.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
Here making content and auditioning a lot, and so hopefully
you guys will see me on something very soon. I'm
manifesting good things for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
McKenzie Bouman. God bless you, congratulations, Thank you for doing this,
wonder Forday for having me. I would stop the recording
good days. So that was episode three hundred and thirty five.
Head over to the Patreon at patreon dot com Forward
Slash Bret Golds team for the extra fifteen minutes of chat,
secrets and video with Mackenzie Barman. Go Chapple podcasts, gio
(52:12):
US and five, Start writing and write about the film
that means the most to you and why it's a
lovely thing to read. It helps with numbers of My
neighbor Marien really appreciates it. Thank you all for listening.
I hope you're all well. Thank you so much to
Mackenzie for giving me her time. Thanks to Scubius, Pip
and the Distraction Pieces of Network. Thanks to Buddy Peace
for producing it. Thanks to iHeartMedia and Wilferrell's Big Money
Players Network for hosting it. Thanks to Adam Richardson for
the graphics and Lisa Laden for the photography. Come and
(52:33):
join me next week for another incredible guest. But that's
it for now. In the meantime, have a lovely week
and please, now more than ever, be excellent to each others.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
Bas By everybody backs and Sam body and bodys and
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