October 2, 2024 • 52 mins
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Join your host Brett Goldstein as he talks life, death, love and the universe with the fabulous comic PAT BURTSCHER!
Pat is someone with whom Brett shares many years of companionship and experience in the comedy world, and for those unfamiliar, is a lovely person indeed. It's a wide and varied one and a true joy, nice and silly and also heartfelt when the times come. You'll hear about DMT, soundsystems, he and Brett's history on the circuit, trailers, comedic yelling, shared comedic trauma therapy via movies and Boy Amelie! Super fun. ENJOY!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You get. It's only films to be buried with. Hello,
and welcome to films to be buried with. My name
is Brett Golsdein. I'm a comedian and actor, a writer
and director, a pseudo scientist, and I love films. As
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Albert Camu once said, man is always prey to his truths.
Once he has admitted them, he cannot free himself from them.
There's no crime in loving Mamma Mere. It's a genuinely
great film. Stop pretending you're not into it. Just let
yourself go. Every week I invite special guest over. I
tell them they've died. Then I get them to discuss
their life through the films that meant the most of them.
Previous guests include Barry Jenkins, Amber Ruffing, Mark Frost, Sharon Stone,
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and even Bed Campbell's. But this week it's the Brilliant
Comedians Get co actor and writer Pat Bircher. The last
five dates of my North American stand up Tour Second
Best Night of Your Life are available. There's one in
New Orleans, there's one in Fort Lauderdale, there's one in Baltimore,
there's one in Bellingham, and there's one in Seattle. Come along,
we'll have a right old time. You can find all
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the information you need at Brett Goldstein Tour dot com.
Also head over to the Patreon at Patreon dot com forwards.
Last Brett Goldstein, where you get next to twenty minutes
of stuff with Pat, you get a secret, you get
the whole episode uncut Adfrey, and there's a video. Check
it out at Patreon dot com forwards. Last breakgold Steam.
Pat Bircher, Ah, Pat Bircher. If you have seen any
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of my tour shows, you might have seen him open
for me. I've known Pat so many years. We started
out comedy together in London. I love him so much.
We took a show to Edinburgh and Jerry Howe. He
now lives in New York and is big on the
New York comedy scene. If you've never seen him, look
him up. He's fucking brilliant and he's a wonderful man.
And I was very happy to hang out with Monzoom
to record this very recently, and I think you're really
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going to love it. So that is it for now.
I very much hope you enjoy episode three hundred and
nineteen on Films to be Buried with Hello and welcome
to the films to be buried with. My name is
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Brett Carstein, and I'm joined today by an actor, a writer,
a sketch, a stand up legend, a stand up hero,
a legend of the comedy seller, a international touring comedian, superstar.
And if you've seen me on tour, you've seen him
open for me. It's one of the funniest best boys
in the world. And here's my brother. Please, welcome to
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the show. Could you believe he's here? He really is,
Look at him. It's Pat Bacha. Hi everybody, Hi, Betty, Hi, Pathy,
How are you? I'm good? Are you good? I'm good?
Thank you? Where are your recordings from? Please?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I'm in Addison, Texas, which is just outside of Dallas.
What I'm here on tour with another friend. Sorry, buddy,
but I'm here with Steph Holov. I believe very ve
been in the same room together, so you're probably.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
The same person. It's just made a way.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, I've never seen you both at the same time,
so for all.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I know you are one and the same. Yes, exacly, yeah.
When I go on tour, yeah yeah, and he goes
there's Betty or stuff. For those of you who don't
know Pat look him up. He's one of the best
comedies you'll ever say. Oh, thank you. I've known Pat
for fifteen years, ten years, twelve.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Years, somewhere in between fifteen and twenty billion years.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Pat came to London to do comedy when I was
starting comedy. We sort of started out around the same time. Yeah,
we became brothers. And then we did a show in
Edinburgh which was with Jerry Howe called Live at the Phoenix,
which was on in a pub that probably wasn't part
of the Edinburgh Festival. It turned out it was part
of a satellite festival. Yeah, it was festival A Jay said. Yeah.
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Then Patters moved to New York and become a New
York comedy soper star. I'm doing okay, So there you go.
Thank you. I love you and it's nice to see you.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Oh, I love you to bits and it's always good
to see you. I've forgotten to tell you something though,
what's there?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Fuck?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Oh? Man, I know I've known you.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
For so long and yeah, you can tell me anything, man,
you sure, yeah, yeah, I don't know if this should
be like in public, Like I don't know you'll feel
about it. You could pause the podcast if you want
to tell me, I worry about it getting out of
sync if I pused it. Oh okay, yeah, I get it,
because we'd have to pause and start it up.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
You'd have to have to pose my leg.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Maybe I'll just tell you and if you feel like, oh,
that was sort of too private, that was too personal,
then we could like editor, oh yeah, then we could
cut it out like when everything's synced up, like I
just don't want to mess with it. But if you
really feel strong that you don't want me to talk
about this, I should have said it earlier. Like I
forgot you know what I mean. But that's okay. I
forget things all the time. I can just say it
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you sure, Yeah, I'm sure it's sweet, but I don't
want to like take advantage of like us being close
and everything. Like at the same time, this is I
should have told you, but this before we recorded, and
I just forgot. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I appreciate your reserve and your and everything, but I
known you long enough that I can pretty much forget,
I mean forgive, Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Okay, be sure, Yeah, I'll just say it and we'll
deal with right. Listen, you know I love you so
like whatever I say is Yeah, okay, I'll just say, okay,
you've died. You're absolutely dead. You're absolutely dead dead. That's
the relief. Oh okay. I was sorry because it's mad
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that I forgot to tell you.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, that's all right. I was feeling a little lighter.
I was wondering why, yeah, how did you die?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
See, this is the embarrassing part, because I was trying
to because you know, the landscape of entertainment keep shifting
so rapidly and everything like that. Yeah, and like some
of my friends, you know, I know a lot of
people that have done well, and a lot of them
are just like consistent and they do their thing. So
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I decided to start a YouTube channel called Pat Bircher's
Midlife Crisis and then to do things that I've always
wanted to do but never pushed through to do.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
So I thought if I made it a YouTube channel,
it would force me to learn these things or do
these things that I've been wanting to do but have
never made time.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Is it genuinely great idea? Yeah? I wish young and
died because it's such a good idea. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So then I was in this one episode I was
learning how to do the splits right. And then what
had happened was I had like put a little weight
on both sides and like developed this pulley system.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
It was very like rude Goldberg esque. Right, it's attached
to your feet or your legs.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, like like I was on like a slippery platform,
not too slippery, and then like I pull this weight
in the middle, and then it pulls two equal things
like that, right, and then slowly pulls my legs. And
I had a safety thing attached so I could like
yank it and those weights would drop right.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
So it wasn't slow. It's like first like suddenly pulling
your legs.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
It was slow at first, right, And then on one
side this like I don't know how, I guess, like
because it all happens so fast. But one weight got
attached to an old lady who then got hit by
a bus. Well the other way got like attached to
a dog that got hit by another bus going the
opposite way, and then it just got ripped in half.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
So that that young Cloe van Damn video but is
on the trucks. Yeah, but I didn't make it. They
just get yeah, yeah, they just killed lady and man
was it a dog?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
They both survived, Okay, yeah, because the ladies walker formed
some sort of steel cage that protected her.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
She so got inside the walker and it like yeah yeah, yeah, right,
yeah yeah yeah. I guess my question is how did
the whites still really get what the whites were. That's
the thing.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I was in a public park, right, I forgot that part.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I was outside, and that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
It wasn't in a cabin ending this was no, no, no,
this was in the woods. No, this was in the park. Sorry,
I wasn't in the woods. But a bus was going
by with an old lady. The white got caught on
a bus.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Are you even listening to me? I'm completely listening. I'm
just like trying it. I just want to make sure
I get the detail.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, correct, Right, I'm in the middle, one legs getting
pulled this way, one legs getting pulled to the right
on the right side, my right. Ladies, she walks by,
and it like somehow that yeah, and then the dog
snagged the other way. Sorry if I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I it's fine. I just felt like that was a
piece missing because obviously, but.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
You were also very emotional because you lost a very
close friends, so I pay attention to the details.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, very gruesome death, And I do worry about the
old lady being traumatized by it and her living with
a sense of guilt that perhaps she's responsible. You know,
it was her walker that caught the weight that took
you in two. Yes, she's she's devastated. Probably do you
worry about death?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Not really in all honesty, because I've been fortunate enough
to travel the world and see some stuff and do
a lot of stuff, and you know, make a lot
of good friends and have a lot of good times.
So it's like i feel pretty like fulfilled, so like
I'm not scared of it in that I like, I've
experienced a lot of stuff, so I don't feel scared
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of it. I feel like if I was like at
a desk job my whole life or something like that.
Not that that can't be fulfilling, because sometimes people do
those jobs and then go on adventures and stuff. But
I feel like I've didn't experience the things i'd experienced,
then maybe i'd be scared because I'd be like, rich,
I haven't experienced those things yet, But now that I
have and all that stuff, I'm not afraid of it,
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but I don't want it to happen, you know what
I mean? But if it does, like every time i'd
take off in a plane, I'm like, I've had a
good life, and then I don't not scared of it,
you know what I mean that very much?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Pat, Yeah, what do you think happens when you die?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
It's it's funny because like no matter what you think,
it doesn't matter, because it can. Anything can happen. But
I don't know, I think you just it's like anything else, right,
Like like how like say like a plant dies and
then it becomes part of the soil and gets spread
out amongst that ecosystem. I think that's like what happens
is your energy just gets dispersed into the surrounding.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
And what and so your like thoughts, your consciousness goes
just man, is nothing dead? Nothing dead? Nothing?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, maybe it just dissipates like waves in a pond
or whatever when you throw a pebble in it.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Put in a beautiful way.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, like they say, like d m T is the
the chemical that gets released and then you see your life.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
And your eyes. Yeah you did it? You haven't tell me? Yeah,
tell me about that. The chemical that gets released a
second before you die, right, I think. So yeah, now
you can take it as a as a fun experiment.
What happened to you? I just saw different things.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
It was a very visual experience and like, uh, it
was really cool?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Was it scary?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
But I've done it a few times and the only
time it was scary was I have an astigmatism, right,
so this I I can't see you out of as
well as the other one. So I covered my good
eye and then I did it because I was like, oh,
let's see what it does through my bad eye, right,
And then that time it was a scary trip. But
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my takeaway from it was that the DMT was like,
hey man, I'm gonna mess with you enough. You don't
have to do anything, and next time you come here
if you try to amulate this experience, I will fuck
you up.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
It's like this is already scary enough. Yeah, why what
a strange What did you say on your scary one?
If anything? Because you were looking for your bad eye.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I think it was like a thing where I felt
like it brought me to the edge of sanity and
then back right. So it was like how fragile everything
really is right. The other thing too, is like you
never know if it's the drug oversus you and how much,
because we all bring our own stuff to any experience,
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regardless of what it is, right, So I don't think
any of that stuff really teaches you anything other than
it shifts your perspective. It's like a mind vacation, so
you get some reprieve from life and you get you
forget all reference frames when you're on DMT, So like
there's a point in time where you're not attached to anything, right,
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you don't know what time is, you don't know what
up and down is, you don't know what you don't
know what anything is. And then that happens quite quickly,
like in my experience anyways, like fractals show up and
then it's like it's like a haul of deck assembles
around you. And then then you're in the middle of
it and you don't know what anything is. And then
by the time you can start perceiving things again, it
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starts to fade. It's like being have you ever had
like a what's that called when you know you're dreaming
a vivid dream, lucid dreaming? Have you ever lucid dreamed
and you know when you start knowing it is, there's
that delicate balance, like if you're like, oh, I'm dreaming,
sometimes it just like snaps you out of it. It's
kind of like that, like you have this experience and
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then as soon as you start realizing and you're in it,
you start getting.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Sucked out of it. Goddamn it.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's kind of like stand up too, right, because like
when you're having a really good set, but like if
you just let yourself go, it's like you're riding a
wave and it keeps going. But as soon as you
start really you're like, I'm having a good time, then
feeling wow, thrown off the wave.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
The worst thing you could think on stages this is
going well.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Because then the comedy God's get involved and they start, yeah, destroying,
destroy exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Well that's all very interesting and beautiful pathy, But I
got news for you, buddy boy. There's a heaven and
you're going to Can you imagine sick? That would be, Paul. Well,
you've been pretty great, so you get to go and
heaven is filled with your favorite thing. What's your favorite thing?
Snacks and naps, Snacks and nap Heaven. There's nap. Yes,
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the literal rooms, napping. There's snacks everywhere and you just
reach your hand out. There's next it covers with noise snacks.
We have a kind of snacks. You're good snacks there
at fro noise snacks there at the back, the snacks there.
And they're very nice to see you. Oh, it's so
excited to see you. They want to talk about your life,
but they want to talk about it through film, okay, okay.
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And the first thing they say, uh huh, is what
is the first film you remember seeing? Pathy Berchet.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
That's a tough one because it's like there's a few
different things, because do you mean it in like the cinema,
like going to a movie theater or.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
At home if if ideally had a movie theater, But
it can be just whatever your memory is.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
It may have been something like Batman or something like
that in the theater, like one of those movies is
when the first movie I went with my family was
something like that, or like I remember Jurassic Park might
be a bit further down the line, but it was
definitely was like an action movie like that. But you
know it sounds about right, so wise, well, yeah, like
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I was seven, so maybe it wasn't the first, but yeah,
the first movie I remember seeing at home was my
dad got a VHS player and then he wanted to
test the sound system or whatever, so he got Top
Gun and we were watching Top Gun.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah, so that was pretty cool fun.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
It was just like a rinky dink TV on the
v Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. I was mesmerized
by it. I was like, you put this thing in
here and you press that and then planes fly around there.
That's pretty sick. Did you guys? Did you guys have
family to the cinema?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Love?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
We went sometimes, but not a lot. There was a
lot of family movie nights with the VHS. My dad
really liked Charlie Chaplin and stuff, so we watched that
a lot. That was really cool.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
And then I remember once they because they they were
both they're both immigrant and stuff, you know, and then
they'd see new releases and they would just be like, oh,
let's watch this right, and then it was family movie
night and they brought back.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Basic instinct.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
And they just like it was funny because we'd watch it,
but they it was like this, like they just kept
my dad kept fast forwarding through all the like sex scenes,
so it was like a five minute long movie.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
That's great, that's reretally good. Yeah, I mean right right
from the top opens with a sex scene, right, yeah,
I realized mistake. Yeah, but he must have thought there's
more to it than this, you know, No, that's it.
What is the film that scared you the most? Do
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you like being scared?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I honestly don't like scary movies. I'm of the opinion
this is a personal thing. But if I want to
be scared or sad, I'll just sit in a room
by myself. I don't need a movie to push it
that way, you know, I'll just watch the news or
something or whatever. Yeah, yeah, turn the music off, like
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to sit in a bright room, just freaking alone with
my thoughts, let them get at me.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
But there was like two movies I think that really.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
One of them was like a documentary and the other
one was like a movie.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
When I was young, around.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Probably the same time as when I saw a top
gun my neighbors, because we had a bunch of family
friends and like all the kids would just you know,
we'd be like a ball of kids going from one
place to the other, you know, And then at one
of my neighbor's houses. They were playing a movie and
I guess the parents were busy and they didn't know.
We were watching Nightmare on ELM stream three, and I
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just I have two older brothers and they were like
sick a horror movie. But I was just like watching
this thing going on, Oh my god. And I remember
not being able to sleep without the lights on and
stuff like that and just having like because I have
a very vivid imagination. I guess I don't know if
it is or not because it's the one I have,
you know, Yeah, but it would just like if I
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see scary movies or stuff like that, I know they're
not real, but it's just my brain just goes into
a place and like I don't like where it goes,
so I'd rather not watch them. But I that one.
And then there was like a couple documentaries that sort
of scared me and woke me up to the nefarious
things that can be at play in the world.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
And that was like a bowling for Columbine in the
Corporation where too, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Where you're kind of like, ah, God, these like this
doesn't some of this stuff isn't happening on accident. Some
of It is like a calculated kind of play by
play by these just people that try to swing themselves
into power, and it's like really scary.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
You know that is scary. Corporations aren't really scary. Yeah,
but you would be more scared of Freddie Krieger popping
up in your bedroom.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Than in a way in a way, yeah, I guess
that would be a more direct yeah, yeah, whereas the
corporation would show up and be like.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
We're buying every house in this neighborhood because there's there's
coal underneath here, and we will ruin the water supply
and over the next thirty years, we will export all
the jobs.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
It's going to take ages. It's Freddie. Yeah, but Freddy
Krueger would just be like, yeah, Freddy's in and out.
You've got to respect that about him, you know what
I mean. Yeah, you know he's there for a job.
It's a quick job. It's a quick job you can do.
You can do welly sleep as well, like no efforts. Yeah,
this is the truth. Freddy in a way is kind
of he's sort of like have a nap, really.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Somebody you like naps and snacks. Here's some snacks. Here's
some snacks that make you nap and then.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Go good bye. Honestly, you don't have to do anything. Yeah,
I will take care of it.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
There was this one experience I had when I was
a kid that kind of like I go back to
a lot whenever I'm like stressing out or whatever, and
I remember we went to a beach. I forget where
it was. It's like family vacation. We all wind up
at this beach, and you know, there's I have three siblings,
and then there may have been like family friends there.
So again there's like a scuttle of kids and like everybody,
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from time to time, one vanishes and comes back. And
my parents weren't like helicopter parents. They were just like
let them learn through fucking up themselves, you know. And
then I remember going swimming and getting caught in undertow
because there were these big waves and then being under
the water and just I don't know where it came from,
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but there's this idea where this thought or something that
was just like, oh, just relax, there's no reason to
fight this because there's no way out of this. So
then I just like relaxed and then popped up and
I was like, you know, and then it just carried
with me. So whenever I go obviously I have like
points in time where I'm overwhelmed to the point where
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I can't, but then there's always this point where I
guess it's like this resonant frequency where fear hits a
certain point, and then I just like, I'm just relax.
You can't fight this, so just relax and if you
can do something, do something. But if you can't, you
gotta stay here.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
You know. Man, I love that you're a fucking you're
you're But what is the film that made you cry?
The mist you cry? Oh buddy.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I cry at commercials, I cry at reels, I cry
at everything. I'm a very like sentimental person. So whenever
there's like you know, they're like this dog hasn't seen
its owner in three years and the dog goes, you
know like that, or like even if there's those videos
where it's like someone has dementia but then when they
hear a song they sing it perfectly, you know, stuff
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like that.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
So I cry a lot.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
But when I was like thinking about this, I was like, man,
I don't know, there's there's too many. But I just
wrote down the first couple that came to mind, but
I remember, like Goodwill Hunting made me cry a lot.
You know, there's a few instances in there that, right,
because it's like just this kid that may you know,
had a rough go at things and then he gets
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a chance, and then he's still obviously damaged from his
upbringing and has a hard time letting go. But it's
also there's this really cool thing in there that also
got me choked up too, is like when he has
the NSA video the interview, you know that scene where
they're like, why should you work for the NSA? It's like,
why shouldn't I? And then he does that huge, you
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know monologue where he just goes off on this crazy
like tangent about if he helps them, it might help
them build this, which focks his friend over and then
his friend has like this hard life all because he
helped them with this dumb thing. And I actually did
that monologue in drama class and right, yeah, you never
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tell me that, Yeah yeah, And I thought it would
make sense if I had a cigarette.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
And I was like, why shouldn't I work for the NSA?
And then I just did it. I Love you.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
I was probably like fourteen or something around that age.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
That's fucking yeah. Did you get an A?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I think I did all right, Yeah, I think I
nailed that. But I remember in drama class as well,
the teacher thought that she'd put me in a lead
role in the play, right, But then when I got
the play, I really didn't like the play, so I
didn't like invest any time learning the lines and everything.
And then she was kind of upset because she's like,
I thought this would be the thing that opened you
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up to tell.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
A native cigarette yeah, act, Yeah, the only way I
can act is with a cigarette script with that cigarette. Yeah,
But it just wasn't fun, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Like, but I guess that's the other thing too, is
like I feel like there's these points in time where
if there was the right person there to just to
just relay the information to you, it would change your life,
because there are points in time where that does happen,
and it does really create this clearer path or at
least you have a better idea of where you got
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to go next, you know. So I feel like that
just wasn't one of those moments. But if someone was like,
you have to this is how you act, or maybe
she did say that, and that may have been a
class I skipped where just a thing I I didn't
hear because I was, you know, being an idiot with
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some friends in the class.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
So I don't know. Yeah, what's a film that you love?
People don't like it, it's not critically acclaimed, but you love
it unconditionally.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Oh, I think we both love this film, and I
think the thing that makes it so it's also the
Mama Miah, just because every time I think of it,
I think of that time me, you and Jerry went
to go see it during Edin Bruhn. It was like
one of the moments because we had a lot of
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fun during that festival. But I think we really needed
that at that point in time in our lives. We
all were just up against the ropes and we were
just getting filled by all this disappointment and stuff. But
we I think we dealt with it really well and
we were having fun, right, But it definitely our spirits
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were a bit concussed at the point in time, and
I remember going to Mom and me and it just
being this really fun, stupid good time.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
We had one day off for the listeners. We'd done
this Edinburgh shave me, Pat and Jerry and it was awful.
We're in this terrible venue called the Phoenix. We said
live for the Phoenix, and it was like a pub
and it didn't really have a venue in it. It
was just like standing in the corner with an amp
and try and make a show. And it was fucking terrible.
And four people would come to actually see it, and
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we were really struggling, and we had one day off
and then our day off we went to see Mama
Mire at the cinema and three of us and it
was just us three and some old people in the
in the room. And I think we went as a joke.
I think we went in like, Haha, this will be
fun and we'll make fun of it. Perhaps, but within
about five minutes, I think we were all crying and
this is the most beautiful of us. We loved it.
(27:43):
So it was so love it. We loved it. That
was great. It was incredible. Yeah, that was a great day. Yeah,
it really did save us. Mama and Me has saved us. Yeah,
it really did. It was and then I think it
sent us back because then we moved to the Tron
and then we were inspired. We got out of that venue.
We got a venue that yeah, beef of the last
two weeks we did this run. We threw a frog.
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It was great.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Sad, Yeah, yeah, it really did. It was a turning point.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
M lovely thing. Yeah, great answer. I love it. It's
made me very happy. Thank you. Twenty points for that answer.
Actually faulty, no under thou. Yeah, I'm on the leader's board. Baby,
tell me this. What's the film On the other hand
that you do love, you used to love, but then
you watched it in the last few years and you've thought, oh, no,
(28:35):
oh no, I don't like this anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
A movie that was like I really loved as a kid,
and then like, you know, I'm trying to One thing
that I try to do now is do stuff outside
of comedy and all that other stuff, right, And one
of the things that's really cool to do is like,
you know, go to movies or go to a place
and all that, or even like a museum or whatever.
And then I recently went to go watch The Batman
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nineteen eighty nine, and esthetically it was really good, but
it wasn't as impactful as I remember it. And I
know it's a product of its time and everything like that,
but it just felt like a bit like going back
to like some like your high school, and then you
remember it being so big and scary, and then you
go there and it's like tiny, and it's like, oh what,
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why do I have this memory of this place?
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Say the fest Filmis at the cinema.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
It was one of them, for sure. So I forgot
a lot about it, to the point where because I
love going into movies not knowing anything about them, because
I feel like it's the same as if you're going
to tell me a story. It's like, why would I
want a trailer? You'd like, here's the main beats of
the story I'm about to tell you.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
It's like, what are that? I'm going to tell you
the story? They die at the end as big as
anyway anyway, Yeah, you're all.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
The kind of gravitas is gone, you know. So even
with this movie, I didn't want to. I had vague
memories of it, but I have. I had amalgamated that
and Batman Forever together, and I thought it wasn't just
the Joker. I thought the Penguin was in there and Catwoman. Right,
So I go in there and I'm watching this thing
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and I'm like, oh, this is cool.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Here's the Jokers parate. When's the Penguin the much superior sequel, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Which I've recently watched and it was it's incredible.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Still that's my favorite. It's insane.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
It's so good, right, And I'm not taking anything away
from a bat the original Batman. I know, you know,
the first time you do something, it's.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
A little bit.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I feel like they really gave them carte blanche. On
the returns. They're like they didn't know what to expect
in the first one.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I think that's true, so they were a little bit like,
I don't know, let's play it safe, and then in
that one they just went balls to the walls and
it's incredible of it. Yeah, so that was the one.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I still like it because of what it meant to
me and like what it did for that era of
cinema and all that stuff. And I really like Tim
Burton's kind of esthetic and everything. But as far as
it's entertainment value and everything like that, it's kind of like, eh,
you know, it's like an old friend that if they
were like I'm in town, I'm like I could probably
(31:23):
grab a drink, but not lunch with you.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
You know, let's have a coffee to go coffee, not
even if I'm I'm looking to make someone that I
want to see. Can you walk with me? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, yeah. In between, I just put my laundry in.
I got twenty minutes until I got a throw it
in the dryer.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
It was all you gouick spin. This is some quick spin.
Go what is the film that means the mice to you?
Not necessarily the film itself, but because the experience you
had seeing them makes it special to you.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
There's like a few Is it okay that there's more
than one for some of these or does it have
to be boiled down to one? Are do you? Cause
I feel like they know what people in the past
have done. That big fan of the podcast, By the way.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Thanks, I didn't think you never had it, so that
makes it I did.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
I love the episodes where like it's you and one
of our friends, because then like there I know that
there's like a history there, and it's cool. It's like
I'm just hanging out with you guys, and but I
don't have to there's no pressure on me to say
to add to it. But I get to hang out
with two old friends and like I'll do my dishes
(32:42):
while these guys have.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
A good time, you know, you can have a couple
of this question. But then but then it there's some rehashments.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
But so it's like the the things that like when
I went to see Bowling for Columbine, that like split
my head open. And I was like, because at that
point in time, you have some remember, documentaries weren't like yeah,
like now they're popular now everything is a documentary. Back then,
I remember hearing stuff about because there was another one
that was called what the bleep do we Know? And
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the guy had a really hard time getting it, going
to the point where he had to self fund it
and it was.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Limited release, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
So like back then, you know, the people that like
what was distributors and all those like industry people were like,
people don't want to think when they're at the movies.
They don't want That's what he kept hearing, you know.
But then they found out through because of like Bowling
for Combine and all that stuff, people actually love learning
and they like to learn what's happening all around them.
(33:41):
So that's like Bowling for Combine and like, what the
bleep do we know? Really split my head open in
that Oh, you can make stuff that's about stuff that
you care about and that you want other people to
know about. It doesn't have to be told through like
some sort of like what's the word. I thought I'd
get it, like I knew the narrative right like in
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the in the like in like a movie, like it
doesn't have to be an analogy. It doesn't have to
be analogized or whatever. So that was pretty cool. And
then Beauty Is Embarrassing is another one that was really
cool because it's about Wayne White, who is an artist
and he designed a lot of Pee Wee's playhouse, so
that was really cool to see that. And then a
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lot of heist movies, love heist movies. They all blew
my mind and amally like that one was really cool
because it was like this movie that.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Was like it just it just in your amily, your boy,
I wish you, I wish man family is the best.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
It would be incredible. I can't believe it. We the
visual of.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
But those are like the ones Emily here reporting on
behalf of Amili.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, I'm well, I'm going to give you Emily because
you'r Memily, but I do yeah, yeah, you can have
a mode, you know, alright, you can have the basket
of of answers. What's the film you might relatee to.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Emily it is? I, Yeah, I really do, because it's
like there's all these lessons that are taught that she
learns through all these little like pranks that she pulls
and stuff like that, and I feel like that's kind
of like the driving force behind like my comedy and
(35:45):
stuff that I like. I I feel like that you're
not hit over the head with it, Like if you
can get a point across and make it what is
palpable for others without making them feel like it's not
a ted talk. It's not they're not being lectured. It's
more like, have you ever thought about it this way?
Speaker 1 (36:03):
You know?
Speaker 2 (36:04):
You know, because like when you have a conversation with
someone and they're like open minded and stuff like that,
and they have we all have our opinions, but I
always feel there's like this eloquence to people being able
to relay their thoughts to someone else without and being
able to listen to someone else and trying to understand
where they're coming from and being like, well, this is
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where I come from, and not this thing that happens
a lot today where it's just two dogs barking at
each other, where it's nothing's learned from it. There's like
no middle ground. It's just like two people yelling at
each other from two different cliff faces, and the other
ones's like you got to jump off, and.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
They're like, no, you got to jump off because I believe.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
This, and it's like everything's like heavily nuanced and all
this other stuff. Yeah, I feel like amily is the best.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
But you know what, I think you're you're family because
she like makes the world magic around there and she
does little things that makes makes fun things out of
everything that's around that's not you. What's the sexiest phil
you've ever say? Speaking of things you're going to be
doing in your cabin in the woods. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
The first one that really got me going and it
confused the hell out of me was Nightmare on Elm
Street three, because do you remember that one.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
There's the nurse scene.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
You know, the nurse scene because the guy falls asleep
seeing a poster of like I guess it's like a
centerfold or something, and then he because he's fighting to
stay awake or whatever, and then this nurse is in
his dream and then she like disrobes and I remember
being like sending like whoa what the you know because
at that point I've only ever seen like cartoons where
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the wolf's eyes blowing right, and I remember being like
really like intrigued and like that's nice and then being
really scared. In that combination of things was very much.
That's why it was troubling, because it was like how
can something or sorry, what was the one? You were
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just traveling?
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Yeah? Right, this is why you always come when you
say a n no.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
But I feel like I was lucky in that I
didn't get any kind of like entanglement through it, right.
But then there's also like who framed Roger Rabbits probably
an answer that other people have said, right, because you
go in watching this cartoon and you're like.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
But what's your sexiest you're traveling by the thank you
for traveling by?
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Right?
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Yeah? Ah man, that's tough, non traveling by the non
troubling boner, just straight up anything with uh Monica Balucci
or Jessica Alba correct, absolutely absolutely correct answer. You can have.
You can have a buck films with just fill them
(39:03):
in that bucket or Soma hayek, you can what a
great bucket that is. But I think they're all married
to billionaires. Fucking out, You've gotta stop making some serious money.
Yeah right, I think you're gonna have to bamily a corporation.
What is objectively the greatest film of all time?
Speaker 2 (39:23):
There's so many different category one this is one, all right.
I honestly think objectively one of the best movies of
all time.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
No, the best movie of all time is No. That's
so rapidly no. No.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Or Office Space Mike Judges movie. Office Space is like
structurally perfect, right, Like just if you just were like,
this is how you write a movie. It was like
the setups were there, the it delivers like ever scene
pushed the movie forward, and every character there's so many,
like everything needed to be there. There was like no
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fat on it whatsoever. And then just like as a
comedy goes, it's the perfect comedy movie. It's insane, it's
so funny, it's the perfect movie. I think that's such
a good answer, and it hasn't come in here. I'm
gonna give you another fourteen hundred points. Yes, because I
watched it again recently and I was like, oh, maybe
(40:29):
I'm just like you know, rose tinted glasses blah, blah
blah movies.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Are what there could be.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
But then I watched it, like, holy shit, this is perfect,
Like everything just lined up, like like everything, And it's
like I love in a movie because he builds the
world so perfectly that everything that happens in it is justified.
There's nothing where you're like, I couldn't see that happening,
you know, so in there, there there's no point in
time in that movie where I'm pulled away from it
(40:57):
being like what the fuck was that about?
Speaker 1 (41:00):
You know?
Speaker 2 (41:01):
It's like very engrossing and very enthroned, very funny, and
it's also like, yeah, I just think it ticks all
the boxes.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Fucking great answer. What's the film that you could or
have watched The Mace Diver and over again? Well, that
would probably be Homily when you sorry, it's like when
do you run for president? I want your slagging to
be family for Emily?
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Yeah, yeah, Office Space, Beavis and butt Head, Tommy Boy,
and like heist movies.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Oh, but Head the new one. I've seen it. Oh yes,
and you love it. You don't know. I haven't seen
it yet and I've been really I don't anything about it.
Everyone's loved it. Everyone says it's pretty Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
I feel like if you watch it, you won't be
disappointed by it. I won't say anything more than that
you've seen Beavis and butt Head to America, Yes, and
it's it's another flawless film by Mike Judge. And it's
so funny, so stupid, Like the Cornholio appearance in the
White House is so funny, like just having that's like
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the perfect moment for him to become Cornholio.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
He drinks coffee in the White House. It's just so
dumb and perfect.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeah, what's the West filming that the same path that
actually happened kind of recently. As we both I think
are fans of is like, we don't like being negative.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
We don't not being negative, Patty, I don't even know
why I asked this question.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
And I feel like the problem with this movie. And
I went out with the lady that she this is
years ago, but I love the way she put it.
Whenever we saw a movie and it was bad, she
just went that needed to rewrite, because I think that's nice.
More often than not, it's just there's a few things missing.
It's like the obviously the movie got made because there
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was at one point in time, a lot of people
thought it was a good idea, and then at another
point in time, or maybe it unraveled slowly, it just
unraveled and it was too late. They couldn't put the
cat back in the bag or whatever. Right, I went
to Classic Cinema. It's right, but I forget what it's called.
I think it's Paris Cinema in New York City. It's
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right by like the south's end of Central Park, by
that hotel that's from Home Alone Looston, New York homelone two.
He's in that hotel. But the movie that was there
was called Hitman. It just it didn't make any sense.
I don't understand. Like me and my two buddies just
(43:37):
walked out of it, like I just left it.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
He didn't even finish it's a great movie.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Maybe it just didn't make sense. I thought it was horrible,
Like I like, I feel like the beginning of the
movie should like suck you in, and it just pushed
me out of the field.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
How late did you leave? How far I feel because
it was like that whole thing.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Like I don't want to ruin the movie for anybody,
but the justification for why he became the hit Man
didn't line up for me.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
But it was true? Is it? It was a true story? True? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. What is the film? You're in comedy? You're
a comedian. You're one of the greats, if anything, one
of the greats. What one of the absolute greats? What?
Maybe you laugh the most puffy bat?
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Oh man, that's a tough one. There's so many good ones.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
You like? You like a laugh? Yeah? I love a laugh.
He loves he loves it. Laugh this one.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Because I already set office space, I'm gonna go with
something else, right. I love the Jackass movies, right, They're incredible.
This is tough. Yeah, it's tough. Yeah, it's tough. It's
very tough. So what's your favorite funny movies? I would
never do this podcast. I forgot that people have I
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love whenever anyone flips the script on your yougo, I
wouldn't do it. It's so funny to put people through
a podcast you never go through.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
I would never do this insane that anyone does.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
It's like James Bond villain to sit in their trap.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
Yeah, oh yeah, do you want to what would you
like on your bows? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (45:30):
I don't think you understand why I'm doing this. I'd
say one of the best. It's like Tommy Boy. Napoleon
Dynamite is another one, but the one I'll go with,
uh with Tommy Boy.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Right, I'd love tell Me Boy funny.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Tommy Boy is incredible, and Chris Farley is one of
the best comedic actors of all time. He nailed the
comedic yell. He's like, like everybody that can after him
has to like nod their head to him. I know
it's he didn't invent it by any means. You know,
there's a lot of comedic yellers out there, but I
think this era.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Yeah, I'm sure, I love comedic. Comedic yelling is one
of the funniest things ever.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
I just like that.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
It's funny to me when someone can pull it off
because then they're doing it in a way that doesn't
scare people. You're taking this thing that like tends to
happen in some of the most tense times in people's lives,
and then you're creating levity through it, which is I
think incredible. You know, so, like like Chris Farley is
really good at that. And then you got like Eddie
(46:45):
Peppatone's incredible at it, you know. Eddie's so fucking funny.
And there's a long list of people like Will Ferrell's great.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
At it, you know. And but I could go on
and on and on. Beta, Yes, ye are joy, I'm
my brother. You are a delight. However, when you were
trying to you'd started your YouTube channel that I really
hope you do. Start as a mini crisis. You're trying
to learn new skills, and you'd already learned trapez you'd
(47:13):
learn fork lift driving, you'd learn juggling, and now you're
trying to do the splits. You set up a series
of weights and pulley systems, but you took them to
the park and hung them off trees. You had your
legs splitting a bit. And then an old lady will
past with a walker, and a walker got caught on
a weight and it dragged it away, and a dog
(47:34):
got caught and alboy dragged it the other way, and
you got split in two. Your whole body and your
organs landed in the park. Kids screaming, dogs start eating
your liver. H people screamed, the old ladies like, I
feel terrible. I will need lots of MDR to get
over this drama. I'm walking through the park, you know what.
(47:55):
I'm like getting the fresh air with a coffin and
I go, yeah, pathw you've split yourself into again. Oh no,
and this time it looks fatal. Yeah, so I say
to the old lady, I'm like, stop crying, help me
pack this up. And I sort of have to get
all your organs that the dog hasn't eaten, and I'm
perfect patting them all into the coffin. It's bits of
(48:17):
park that's mud all sorts. It's a fucking disaster. The
police is so I can't get rid of it. Yeah,
so you're tied up in rights. Put you all in.
There's no room in this coffin. There's only enough room
to slide one DVD to the side for you to
take it across to the other side. And on the other side,
what film called Emily are you taking to show the people?
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Yeah, it's Amalie.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
It's got to be armory. It's always armor. We Yeah,
what's a sweet point. Well, you've done it this time.
You really gotta done it. Tell the people where they
can see and watch you and hear.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
You on my Instagram's probably my most active account, and
that's Pat birch Er p at b U R T
s c h e R. And I got some tour
dates coming up. If you click on the link there
in my bio, it'll let you know where I'm gonna be.
I'm gonna, i think, off the top of my head,
(49:16):
I'm gonna be in in San Francisco at the Punchline
at the beginning of November, and then next year I'm
gonna be in Colorado doing a bunch of dates that's
still getting ironed out, but that's like from like midway
and January. And at the end of January, I believe
I'm at the Houston in Houston at the Riot, and
(49:39):
then the next weekend I'm at Sports Drinks in New Orleans,
and then there's more and more dates being figured out
right now, but at this moment in time, that's where
it's at. But if you want to find out where
I'm at, jo I'm a meddling list or check out
the link in my bio. And that's that I think. Oh,
and should I start that? Should I start that YouTube channel?
You absolutely should.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Really good idea that's really good, and then you get
to do all your ideas. I won't do the splits though, yeah,
don't do this place.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Yeah, yeah, you'll be the stunt coordinator or the risk
assessment guy.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Every time I pitch.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Every time I pitch you stuff, I always try to
slide in the splits and you're like Article fifty seven denied.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
No, you cannot pitch something you have already talked for
your death. Yeah. Pat have a wonderful show tonight with Steph. Thanks,
it's lovely to see you. I love you, I love
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it out at Patreon dot com forwards. Last breakgold Steam.
Pat Bircher, Ah, Pat Bircher. If you have seen any
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of my tour shows, you might have seen him open
for me. I've known Pat so many years. We started
out comedy together in London. I love him so much.
We took a show to Edinburgh and Jerry Howe. He
now lives in New York and is big on the
New York comedy scene. If you've never seen him, look
him up. He's fucking brilliant and he's a wonderful man.
And I was very happy to hang out with Monzoom
to record this very recently, and I think you're really
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going to love it. So that is it for now.
I very much hope you enjoy episode three hundred and
nineteen on Films to be Buried with Hello and welcome
to the films to be buried with. My name is
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Brett Carstein, and I'm joined today by an actor, a writer,
a sketch, a stand up legend, a stand up hero,
a legend of the comedy seller, a international touring comedian, superstar.
And if you've seen me on tour, you've seen him
open for me. It's one of the funniest best boys
in the world. And here's my brother. Please, welcome to
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the show. Could you believe he's here? He really is,
Look at him. It's Pat Bacha. Hi everybody, Hi, Betty, Hi, Pathy,
How are you? I'm good? Are you good? I'm good?
Thank you? Where are your recordings from? Please?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I'm in Addison, Texas, which is just outside of Dallas.
What I'm here on tour with another friend. Sorry, buddy,
but I'm here with Steph Holov. I believe very ve
been in the same room together, so you're probably.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
The same person. It's just made a way.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, I've never seen you both at the same time,
so for all.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I know you are one and the same. Yes, exacly, yeah.
When I go on tour, yeah yeah, and he goes
there's Betty or stuff. For those of you who don't
know Pat look him up. He's one of the best
comedies you'll ever say. Oh, thank you. I've known Pat
for fifteen years, ten years, twelve.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Years, somewhere in between fifteen and twenty billion years.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Pat came to London to do comedy when I was
starting comedy. We sort of started out around the same time. Yeah,
we became brothers. And then we did a show in
Edinburgh which was with Jerry Howe called Live at the Phoenix,
which was on in a pub that probably wasn't part
of the Edinburgh Festival. It turned out it was part
of a satellite festival. Yeah, it was festival A Jay said. Yeah.
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Then Patters moved to New York and become a New
York comedy soper star. I'm doing okay, So there you go.
Thank you. I love you and it's nice to see you.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Oh, I love you to bits and it's always good
to see you. I've forgotten to tell you something though,
what's there?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Fuck?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Oh? Man, I know I've known you.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
For so long and yeah, you can tell me anything, man,
you sure, yeah, yeah, I don't know if this should
be like in public, Like I don't know you'll feel
about it. You could pause the podcast if you want
to tell me, I worry about it getting out of
sync if I pused it. Oh okay, yeah, I get it,
because we'd have to pause and start it up.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
You'd have to have to pose my leg.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Maybe I'll just tell you and if you feel like, oh,
that was sort of too private, that was too personal,
then we could like editor, oh yeah, then we could
cut it out like when everything's synced up, like I
just don't want to mess with it. But if you
really feel strong that you don't want me to talk
about this, I should have said it earlier. Like I
forgot you know what I mean. But that's okay. I
forget things all the time. I can just say it
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you sure, Yeah, I'm sure it's sweet, but I don't
want to like take advantage of like us being close
and everything. Like at the same time, this is I
should have told you, but this before we recorded, and
I just forgot. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I appreciate your reserve and your and everything, but I
known you long enough that I can pretty much forget,
I mean forgive, Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Okay, be sure, Yeah, I'll just say it and we'll
deal with right. Listen, you know I love you so
like whatever I say is Yeah, okay, I'll just say, okay,
you've died. You're absolutely dead. You're absolutely dead dead. That's
the relief. Oh okay. I was sorry because it's mad
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that I forgot to tell you.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, that's all right. I was feeling a little lighter.
I was wondering why, yeah, how did you die?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
See, this is the embarrassing part, because I was trying
to because you know, the landscape of entertainment keep shifting
so rapidly and everything like that. Yeah, and like some
of my friends, you know, I know a lot of
people that have done well, and a lot of them
are just like consistent and they do their thing. So
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I decided to start a YouTube channel called Pat Bircher's
Midlife Crisis and then to do things that I've always
wanted to do but never pushed through to do.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
So I thought if I made it a YouTube channel,
it would force me to learn these things or do
these things that I've been wanting to do but have
never made time.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Is it genuinely great idea? Yeah? I wish young and
died because it's such a good idea. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So then I was in this one episode I was
learning how to do the splits right. And then what
had happened was I had like put a little weight
on both sides and like developed this pulley system.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
It was very like rude Goldberg esque. Right, it's attached
to your feet or your legs.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, like like I was on like a slippery platform,
not too slippery, and then like I pull this weight
in the middle, and then it pulls two equal things
like that, right, and then slowly pulls my legs. And
I had a safety thing attached so I could like
yank it and those weights would drop right.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
So it wasn't slow. It's like first like suddenly pulling
your legs.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
It was slow at first, right, And then on one
side this like I don't know how, I guess, like
because it all happens so fast. But one weight got
attached to an old lady who then got hit by
a bus. Well the other way got like attached to
a dog that got hit by another bus going the
opposite way, and then it just got ripped in half.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
So that that young Cloe van Damn video but is
on the trucks. Yeah, but I didn't make it. They
just get yeah, yeah, they just killed lady and man
was it a dog?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
They both survived, Okay, yeah, because the ladies walker formed
some sort of steel cage that protected her.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
She so got inside the walker and it like yeah yeah, yeah, right,
yeah yeah yeah. I guess my question is how did
the whites still really get what the whites were. That's
the thing.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I was in a public park, right, I forgot that part.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I was outside, and that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
It wasn't in a cabin ending this was no, no, no,
this was in the woods. No, this was in the park. Sorry,
I wasn't in the woods. But a bus was going
by with an old lady. The white got caught on
a bus.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Are you even listening to me? I'm completely listening. I'm
just like trying it. I just want to make sure
I get the detail.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, correct, Right, I'm in the middle, one legs getting
pulled this way, one legs getting pulled to the right
on the right side, my right. Ladies, she walks by,
and it like somehow that yeah, and then the dog
snagged the other way. Sorry if I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I it's fine. I just felt like that was a
piece missing because obviously, but.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
You were also very emotional because you lost a very
close friends, so I pay attention to the details.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, very gruesome death, And I do worry about the
old lady being traumatized by it and her living with
a sense of guilt that perhaps she's responsible. You know,
it was her walker that caught the weight that took
you in two. Yes, she's she's devastated. Probably do you
worry about death?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Not really in all honesty, because I've been fortunate enough
to travel the world and see some stuff and do
a lot of stuff, and you know, make a lot
of good friends and have a lot of good times.
So it's like i feel pretty like fulfilled, so like
I'm not scared of it in that I like, I've
experienced a lot of stuff, so I don't feel scared
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of it. I feel like if I was like at
a desk job my whole life or something like that.
Not that that can't be fulfilling, because sometimes people do
those jobs and then go on adventures and stuff. But
I feel like I've didn't experience the things i'd experienced,
then maybe i'd be scared because I'd be like, rich,
I haven't experienced those things yet, But now that I
have and all that stuff, I'm not afraid of it,
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but I don't want it to happen, you know what
I mean? But if it does, like every time i'd
take off in a plane, I'm like, I've had a
good life, and then I don't not scared of it,
you know what I mean that very much?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Pat, Yeah, what do you think happens when you die?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
It's it's funny because like no matter what you think,
it doesn't matter, because it can. Anything can happen. But
I don't know, I think you just it's like anything else, right,
Like like how like say like a plant dies and
then it becomes part of the soil and gets spread
out amongst that ecosystem. I think that's like what happens
is your energy just gets dispersed into the surrounding.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
And what and so your like thoughts, your consciousness goes
just man, is nothing dead? Nothing dead? Nothing?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, maybe it just dissipates like waves in a pond
or whatever when you throw a pebble in it.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Put in a beautiful way.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, like they say, like d m T is the
the chemical that gets released and then you see your life.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
And your eyes. Yeah you did it? You haven't tell me? Yeah,
tell me about that. The chemical that gets released a
second before you die, right, I think. So yeah, now
you can take it as a as a fun experiment.
What happened to you? I just saw different things.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
It was a very visual experience and like, uh, it
was really cool?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Was it scary?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
But I've done it a few times and the only
time it was scary was I have an astigmatism, right,
so this I I can't see you out of as
well as the other one. So I covered my good
eye and then I did it because I was like, oh,
let's see what it does through my bad eye, right,
And then that time it was a scary trip. But
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my takeaway from it was that the DMT was like,
hey man, I'm gonna mess with you enough. You don't
have to do anything, and next time you come here
if you try to amulate this experience, I will fuck
you up.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
It's like this is already scary enough. Yeah, why what
a strange What did you say on your scary one?
If anything? Because you were looking for your bad eye.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I think it was like a thing where I felt
like it brought me to the edge of sanity and
then back right. So it was like how fragile everything
really is right. The other thing too, is like you
never know if it's the drug oversus you and how much,
because we all bring our own stuff to any experience,
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regardless of what it is, right, So I don't think
any of that stuff really teaches you anything other than
it shifts your perspective. It's like a mind vacation, so
you get some reprieve from life and you get you
forget all reference frames when you're on DMT, So like
there's a point in time where you're not attached to anything, right,
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you don't know what time is, you don't know what
up and down is, you don't know what you don't
know what anything is. And then that happens quite quickly,
like in my experience anyways, like fractals show up and
then it's like it's like a haul of deck assembles
around you. And then then you're in the middle of
it and you don't know what anything is. And then
by the time you can start perceiving things again, it
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starts to fade. It's like being have you ever had
like a what's that called when you know you're dreaming
a vivid dream, lucid dreaming? Have you ever lucid dreamed
and you know when you start knowing it is, there's
that delicate balance, like if you're like, oh, I'm dreaming,
sometimes it just like snaps you out of it. It's
kind of like that, like you have this experience and
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then as soon as you start realizing and you're in it,
you start getting.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Sucked out of it. Goddamn it.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's kind of like stand up too, right, because like
when you're having a really good set, but like if
you just let yourself go, it's like you're riding a
wave and it keeps going. But as soon as you
start really you're like, I'm having a good time, then
feeling wow, thrown off the wave.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
The worst thing you could think on stages this is
going well.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Because then the comedy God's get involved and they start, yeah, destroying,
destroy exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Well that's all very interesting and beautiful pathy, But I
got news for you, buddy boy. There's a heaven and
you're going to Can you imagine sick? That would be, Paul. Well,
you've been pretty great, so you get to go and
heaven is filled with your favorite thing. What's your favorite thing?
Snacks and naps, Snacks and nap Heaven. There's nap. Yes,
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the literal rooms, napping. There's snacks everywhere and you just
reach your hand out. There's next it covers with noise snacks.
We have a kind of snacks. You're good snacks there
at fro noise snacks there at the back, the snacks there.
And they're very nice to see you. Oh, it's so
excited to see you. They want to talk about your life,
but they want to talk about it through film, okay, okay.
(15:17):
And the first thing they say, uh huh, is what
is the first film you remember seeing? Pathy Berchet.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
That's a tough one because it's like there's a few
different things, because do you mean it in like the cinema,
like going to a movie theater or.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
At home if if ideally had a movie theater, But
it can be just whatever your memory is.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
It may have been something like Batman or something like
that in the theater, like one of those movies is
when the first movie I went with my family was
something like that, or like I remember Jurassic Park might
be a bit further down the line, but it was
definitely was like an action movie like that. But you
know it sounds about right, so wise, well, yeah, like
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I was seven, so maybe it wasn't the first, but yeah,
the first movie I remember seeing at home was my
dad got a VHS player and then he wanted to
test the sound system or whatever, so he got Top
Gun and we were watching Top Gun.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah, so that was pretty cool fun.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
It was just like a rinky dink TV on the
v Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. I was mesmerized
by it. I was like, you put this thing in
here and you press that and then planes fly around there.
That's pretty sick. Did you guys? Did you guys have
family to the cinema?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Love?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
We went sometimes, but not a lot. There was a
lot of family movie nights with the VHS. My dad
really liked Charlie Chaplin and stuff, so we watched that
a lot. That was really cool.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
And then I remember once they because they they were
both they're both immigrant and stuff, you know, and then
they'd see new releases and they would just be like, oh,
let's watch this right, and then it was family movie
night and they brought back.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Basic instinct.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
And they just like it was funny because we'd watch it,
but they it was like this, like they just kept
my dad kept fast forwarding through all the like sex scenes,
so it was like a five minute long movie.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
That's great, that's reretally good. Yeah, I mean right right
from the top opens with a sex scene, right, yeah,
I realized mistake. Yeah, but he must have thought there's
more to it than this, you know, No, that's it.
What is the film that scared you the most? Do
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you like being scared?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I honestly don't like scary movies. I'm of the opinion
this is a personal thing. But if I want to
be scared or sad, I'll just sit in a room
by myself. I don't need a movie to push it
that way, you know, I'll just watch the news or
something or whatever. Yeah, yeah, turn the music off, like
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to sit in a bright room, just freaking alone with
my thoughts, let them get at me.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
But there was like two movies I think that really.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
One of them was like a documentary and the other
one was like a movie.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
When I was young, around.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Probably the same time as when I saw a top
gun my neighbors, because we had a bunch of family
friends and like all the kids would just you know,
we'd be like a ball of kids going from one
place to the other, you know, And then at one
of my neighbor's houses. They were playing a movie and
I guess the parents were busy and they didn't know.
We were watching Nightmare on ELM stream three, and I
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just I have two older brothers and they were like
sick a horror movie. But I was just like watching
this thing going on, Oh my god. And I remember
not being able to sleep without the lights on and
stuff like that and just having like because I have
a very vivid imagination. I guess I don't know if
it is or not because it's the one I have,
you know, Yeah, but it would just like if I
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see scary movies or stuff like that, I know they're
not real, but it's just my brain just goes into
a place and like I don't like where it goes,
so I'd rather not watch them. But I that one.
And then there was like a couple documentaries that sort
of scared me and woke me up to the nefarious
things that can be at play in the world.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
And that was like a bowling for Columbine in the
Corporation where too, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Where you're kind of like, ah, God, these like this
doesn't some of this stuff isn't happening on accident. Some
of It is like a calculated kind of play by
play by these just people that try to swing themselves
into power, and it's like really scary.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
You know that is scary. Corporations aren't really scary. Yeah,
but you would be more scared of Freddie Krieger popping
up in your bedroom.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Than in a way in a way, yeah, I guess
that would be a more direct yeah, yeah, whereas the
corporation would show up and be like.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
We're buying every house in this neighborhood because there's there's
coal underneath here, and we will ruin the water supply
and over the next thirty years, we will export all
the jobs.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
It's going to take ages. It's Freddie. Yeah, but Freddy
Krueger would just be like, yeah, Freddy's in and out.
You've got to respect that about him, you know what
I mean. Yeah, you know he's there for a job.
It's a quick job. It's a quick job you can do.
You can do welly sleep as well, like no efforts. Yeah,
this is the truth. Freddy in a way is kind
of he's sort of like have a nap, really.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Somebody you like naps and snacks. Here's some snacks. Here's
some snacks that make you nap and then.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Go good bye. Honestly, you don't have to do anything. Yeah,
I will take care of it.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
There was this one experience I had when I was
a kid that kind of like I go back to
a lot whenever I'm like stressing out or whatever, and
I remember we went to a beach. I forget where
it was. It's like family vacation. We all wind up
at this beach, and you know, there's I have three siblings,
and then there may have been like family friends there.
So again there's like a scuttle of kids and like everybody,
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from time to time, one vanishes and comes back. And
my parents weren't like helicopter parents. They were just like
let them learn through fucking up themselves, you know. And
then I remember going swimming and getting caught in undertow
because there were these big waves and then being under
the water and just I don't know where it came from,
(21:54):
but there's this idea where this thought or something that
was just like, oh, just relax, there's no reason to
fight this because there's no way out of this. So
then I just like relaxed and then popped up and
I was like, you know, and then it just carried
with me. So whenever I go obviously I have like
points in time where I'm overwhelmed to the point where
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I can't, but then there's always this point where I
guess it's like this resonant frequency where fear hits a
certain point, and then I just like, I'm just relax.
You can't fight this, so just relax and if you
can do something, do something. But if you can't, you
gotta stay here.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
You know. Man, I love that you're a fucking you're
you're But what is the film that made you cry?
The mist you cry? Oh buddy.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I cry at commercials, I cry at reels, I cry
at everything. I'm a very like sentimental person. So whenever
there's like you know, they're like this dog hasn't seen
its owner in three years and the dog goes, you
know like that, or like even if there's those videos
where it's like someone has dementia but then when they
hear a song they sing it perfectly, you know, stuff
(23:08):
like that.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
So I cry a lot.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
But when I was like thinking about this, I was like, man,
I don't know, there's there's too many. But I just
wrote down the first couple that came to mind, but
I remember, like Goodwill Hunting made me cry a lot.
You know, there's a few instances in there that, right,
because it's like just this kid that may you know,
had a rough go at things and then he gets
(23:34):
a chance, and then he's still obviously damaged from his
upbringing and has a hard time letting go. But it's
also there's this really cool thing in there that also
got me choked up too, is like when he has
the NSA video the interview, you know that scene where
they're like, why should you work for the NSA? It's like,
why shouldn't I? And then he does that huge, you
(23:57):
know monologue where he just goes off on this crazy
like tangent about if he helps them, it might help
them build this, which focks his friend over and then
his friend has like this hard life all because he
helped them with this dumb thing. And I actually did
that monologue in drama class and right, yeah, you never
(24:17):
tell me that, Yeah yeah, And I thought it would
make sense if I had a cigarette.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
And I was like, why shouldn't I work for the NSA?
And then I just did it. I Love you.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
I was probably like fourteen or something around that age.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
That's fucking yeah. Did you get an A?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I think I did all right, Yeah, I think I
nailed that. But I remember in drama class as well,
the teacher thought that she'd put me in a lead
role in the play, right, But then when I got
the play, I really didn't like the play, so I
didn't like invest any time learning the lines and everything.
And then she was kind of upset because she's like,
I thought this would be the thing that opened you
(24:59):
up to tell.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
A native cigarette yeah, act, Yeah, the only way I
can act is with a cigarette script with that cigarette. Yeah,
But it just wasn't fun, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Like, but I guess that's the other thing too, is
like I feel like there's these points in time where
if there was the right person there to just to
just relay the information to you, it would change your life,
because there are points in time where that does happen,
and it does really create this clearer path or at
least you have a better idea of where you got
(25:36):
to go next, you know. So I feel like that
just wasn't one of those moments. But if someone was like,
you have to this is how you act, or maybe
she did say that, and that may have been a
class I skipped where just a thing I I didn't
hear because I was, you know, being an idiot with
(25:57):
some friends in the class.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
So I don't know. Yeah, what's a film that you love?
People don't like it, it's not critically acclaimed, but you love
it unconditionally.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Oh, I think we both love this film, and I
think the thing that makes it so it's also the
Mama Miah, just because every time I think of it,
I think of that time me, you and Jerry went
to go see it during Edin Bruhn. It was like
one of the moments because we had a lot of
(26:28):
fun during that festival. But I think we really needed
that at that point in time in our lives. We
all were just up against the ropes and we were
just getting filled by all this disappointment and stuff. But
we I think we dealt with it really well and
we were having fun, right, But it definitely our spirits
(26:49):
were a bit concussed at the point in time, and
I remember going to Mom and me and it just
being this really fun, stupid good time.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
We had one day off for the listeners. We'd done
this Edinburgh shave me, Pat and Jerry and it was awful.
We're in this terrible venue called the Phoenix. We said
live for the Phoenix, and it was like a pub
and it didn't really have a venue in it. It
was just like standing in the corner with an amp
and try and make a show. And it was fucking terrible.
And four people would come to actually see it, and
(27:18):
we were really struggling, and we had one day off
and then our day off we went to see Mama
Mire at the cinema and three of us and it
was just us three and some old people in the
in the room. And I think we went as a joke.
I think we went in like, Haha, this will be
fun and we'll make fun of it. Perhaps, but within
about five minutes, I think we were all crying and
this is the most beautiful of us. We loved it.
(27:43):
So it was so love it. We loved it. That
was great. It was incredible. Yeah, that was a great day. Yeah,
it really did save us. Mama and Me has saved us. Yeah,
it really did. It was and then I think it
sent us back because then we moved to the Tron
and then we were inspired. We got out of that venue.
We got a venue that yeah, beef of the last
two weeks we did this run. We threw a frog.
(28:05):
It was great.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Sad, Yeah, yeah, it really did. It was a turning point.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
M lovely thing. Yeah, great answer. I love it. It's
made me very happy. Thank you. Twenty points for that answer.
Actually faulty, no under thou. Yeah, I'm on the leader's board. Baby,
tell me this. What's the film On the other hand
that you do love, you used to love, but then
you watched it in the last few years and you've thought, oh, no,
(28:35):
oh no, I don't like this anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
A movie that was like I really loved as a kid,
and then like, you know, I'm trying to One thing
that I try to do now is do stuff outside
of comedy and all that other stuff, right, And one
of the things that's really cool to do is like,
you know, go to movies or go to a place
and all that, or even like a museum or whatever.
And then I recently went to go watch The Batman
(29:00):
nineteen eighty nine, and esthetically it was really good, but
it wasn't as impactful as I remember it. And I
know it's a product of its time and everything like that,
but it just felt like a bit like going back
to like some like your high school, and then you
remember it being so big and scary, and then you
go there and it's like tiny, and it's like, oh what,
(29:24):
why do I have this memory of this place?
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Say the fest Filmis at the cinema.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
It was one of them, for sure. So I forgot
a lot about it, to the point where because I
love going into movies not knowing anything about them, because
I feel like it's the same as if you're going
to tell me a story. It's like, why would I
want a trailer? You'd like, here's the main beats of
the story I'm about to tell you.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
It's like, what are that? I'm going to tell you
the story? They die at the end as big as
anyway anyway, Yeah, you're all.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
The kind of gravitas is gone, you know. So even
with this movie, I didn't want to. I had vague
memories of it, but I have. I had amalgamated that
and Batman Forever together, and I thought it wasn't just
the Joker. I thought the Penguin was in there and Catwoman. Right,
So I go in there and I'm watching this thing
(30:18):
and I'm like, oh, this is cool.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Here's the Jokers parate. When's the Penguin the much superior sequel, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Which I've recently watched and it was it's incredible.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Still that's my favorite. It's insane.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
It's so good, right, And I'm not taking anything away
from a bat the original Batman. I know, you know,
the first time you do something, it's.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
A little bit.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I feel like they really gave them carte blanche. On
the returns. They're like they didn't know what to expect
in the first one.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I think that's true, so they were a little bit like,
I don't know, let's play it safe, and then in
that one they just went balls to the walls and
it's incredible of it. Yeah, so that was the one.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I still like it because of what it meant to
me and like what it did for that era of
cinema and all that stuff. And I really like Tim
Burton's kind of esthetic and everything. But as far as
it's entertainment value and everything like that, it's kind of like, eh,
you know, it's like an old friend that if they
were like I'm in town, I'm like I could probably
(31:23):
grab a drink, but not lunch with you.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
You know, let's have a coffee to go coffee, not
even if I'm I'm looking to make someone that I
want to see. Can you walk with me? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, yeah. In between, I just put my laundry in.
I got twenty minutes until I got a throw it
in the dryer.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
It was all you gouick spin. This is some quick spin.
Go what is the film that means the mice to you?
Not necessarily the film itself, but because the experience you
had seeing them makes it special to you.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
There's like a few Is it okay that there's more
than one for some of these or does it have
to be boiled down to one? Are do you? Cause
I feel like they know what people in the past
have done. That big fan of the podcast, By the way.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Thanks, I didn't think you never had it, so that
makes it I did.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
I love the episodes where like it's you and one
of our friends, because then like there I know that
there's like a history there, and it's cool. It's like
I'm just hanging out with you guys, and but I
don't have to there's no pressure on me to say
to add to it. But I get to hang out
with two old friends and like I'll do my dishes
(32:42):
while these guys have.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
A good time, you know, you can have a couple
of this question. But then but then it there's some rehashments.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
But so it's like the the things that like when
I went to see Bowling for Columbine, that like split
my head open. And I was like, because at that
point in time, you have some remember, documentaries weren't like yeah,
like now they're popular now everything is a documentary. Back then,
I remember hearing stuff about because there was another one
that was called what the bleep do we Know? And
(33:12):
the guy had a really hard time getting it, going
to the point where he had to self fund it
and it was.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Limited release, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
So like back then, you know, the people that like
what was distributors and all those like industry people were like,
people don't want to think when they're at the movies.
They don't want That's what he kept hearing, you know.
But then they found out through because of like Bowling
for Combine and all that stuff, people actually love learning
and they like to learn what's happening all around them.
(33:41):
So that's like Bowling for Combine and like, what the
bleep do we know? Really split my head open in
that Oh, you can make stuff that's about stuff that
you care about and that you want other people to
know about. It doesn't have to be told through like
some sort of like what's the word. I thought I'd
get it, like I knew the narrative right like in
(34:04):
the in the like in like a movie, like it
doesn't have to be an analogy. It doesn't have to
be analogized or whatever. So that was pretty cool. And
then Beauty Is Embarrassing is another one that was really
cool because it's about Wayne White, who is an artist
and he designed a lot of Pee Wee's playhouse, so
that was really cool to see that. And then a
(34:24):
lot of heist movies, love heist movies. They all blew
my mind and amally like that one was really cool
because it was like this movie that.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Was like it just it just in your amily, your boy,
I wish you, I wish man family is the best.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
It would be incredible. I can't believe it. We the
visual of.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
But those are like the ones Emily here reporting on
behalf of Amili.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, I'm well, I'm going to give you Emily because
you'r Memily, but I do yeah, yeah, you can have
a mode, you know, alright, you can have the basket
of of answers. What's the film you might relatee to.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Emily it is? I, Yeah, I really do, because it's
like there's all these lessons that are taught that she
learns through all these little like pranks that she pulls
and stuff like that, and I feel like that's kind
of like the driving force behind like my comedy and
(35:45):
stuff that I like. I I feel like that you're
not hit over the head with it, Like if you
can get a point across and make it what is
palpable for others without making them feel like it's not
a ted talk. It's not they're not being lectured. It's
more like, have you ever thought about it this way?
Speaker 1 (36:03):
You know?
Speaker 2 (36:04):
You know, because like when you have a conversation with
someone and they're like open minded and stuff like that,
and they have we all have our opinions, but I
always feel there's like this eloquence to people being able
to relay their thoughts to someone else without and being
able to listen to someone else and trying to understand
where they're coming from and being like, well, this is
(36:24):
where I come from, and not this thing that happens
a lot today where it's just two dogs barking at
each other, where it's nothing's learned from it. There's like
no middle ground. It's just like two people yelling at
each other from two different cliff faces, and the other
ones's like you got to jump off, and.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
They're like, no, you got to jump off because I believe.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
This, and it's like everything's like heavily nuanced and all
this other stuff. Yeah, I feel like amily is the best.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
But you know what, I think you're you're family because
she like makes the world magic around there and she
does little things that makes makes fun things out of
everything that's around that's not you. What's the sexiest phil
you've ever say? Speaking of things you're going to be
doing in your cabin in the woods. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
The first one that really got me going and it
confused the hell out of me was Nightmare on Elm
Street three, because do you remember that one.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
There's the nurse scene.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
You know, the nurse scene because the guy falls asleep
seeing a poster of like I guess it's like a
centerfold or something, and then he because he's fighting to
stay awake or whatever, and then this nurse is in
his dream and then she like disrobes and I remember
being like sending like whoa what the you know because
at that point I've only ever seen like cartoons where
(37:47):
the wolf's eyes blowing right, and I remember being like
really like intrigued and like that's nice and then being
really scared. In that combination of things was very much.
That's why it was troubling, because it was like how
can something or sorry, what was the one? You were
(38:08):
just traveling?
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Yeah? Right, this is why you always come when you
say a n no.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
But I feel like I was lucky in that I
didn't get any kind of like entanglement through it, right.
But then there's also like who framed Roger Rabbits probably
an answer that other people have said, right, because you
go in watching this cartoon and you're like.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
But what's your sexiest you're traveling by the thank you
for traveling by?
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Right?
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Yeah? Ah man, that's tough, non traveling by the non
troubling boner, just straight up anything with uh Monica Balucci
or Jessica Alba correct, absolutely absolutely correct answer. You can have.
You can have a buck films with just fill them
(39:03):
in that bucket or Soma hayek, you can what a
great bucket that is. But I think they're all married
to billionaires. Fucking out, You've gotta stop making some serious money.
Yeah right, I think you're gonna have to bamily a corporation.
What is objectively the greatest film of all time?
Speaker 2 (39:23):
There's so many different category one this is one, all right.
I honestly think objectively one of the best movies of
all time.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
No, the best movie of all time is No. That's
so rapidly no. No.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Or Office Space Mike Judges movie. Office Space is like
structurally perfect, right, Like just if you just were like,
this is how you write a movie. It was like
the setups were there, the it delivers like ever scene
pushed the movie forward, and every character there's so many,
like everything needed to be there. There was like no
(40:07):
fat on it whatsoever. And then just like as a
comedy goes, it's the perfect comedy movie. It's insane, it's
so funny, it's the perfect movie. I think that's such
a good answer, and it hasn't come in here. I'm
gonna give you another fourteen hundred points. Yes, because I
watched it again recently and I was like, oh, maybe
(40:29):
I'm just like you know, rose tinted glasses blah, blah
blah movies.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Are what there could be.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
But then I watched it, like, holy shit, this is perfect,
Like everything just lined up, like like everything, And it's
like I love in a movie because he builds the
world so perfectly that everything that happens in it is justified.
There's nothing where you're like, I couldn't see that happening,
you know, so in there, there there's no point in
time in that movie where I'm pulled away from it
(40:57):
being like what the fuck was that about?
Speaker 1 (41:00):
You know?
Speaker 2 (41:01):
It's like very engrossing and very enthroned, very funny, and
it's also like, yeah, I just think it ticks all
the boxes.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Fucking great answer. What's the film that you could or
have watched The Mace Diver and over again? Well, that
would probably be Homily when you sorry, it's like when
do you run for president? I want your slagging to
be family for Emily?
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Yeah, yeah, Office Space, Beavis and butt Head, Tommy Boy,
and like heist movies.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Oh, but Head the new one. I've seen it. Oh yes,
and you love it. You don't know. I haven't seen
it yet and I've been really I don't anything about it.
Everyone's loved it. Everyone says it's pretty Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
I feel like if you watch it, you won't be
disappointed by it. I won't say anything more than that
you've seen Beavis and butt Head to America, Yes, and
it's it's another flawless film by Mike Judge. And it's
so funny, so stupid, Like the Cornholio appearance in the
White House is so funny, like just having that's like
(42:08):
the perfect moment for him to become Cornholio.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
He drinks coffee in the White House. It's just so
dumb and perfect.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeah, what's the West filming that the same path that
actually happened kind of recently. As we both I think
are fans of is like, we don't like being negative.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
We don't not being negative, Patty, I don't even know
why I asked this question.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
And I feel like the problem with this movie. And
I went out with the lady that she this is
years ago, but I love the way she put it.
Whenever we saw a movie and it was bad, she
just went that needed to rewrite, because I think that's nice.
More often than not, it's just there's a few things missing.
It's like the obviously the movie got made because there
(42:56):
was at one point in time, a lot of people
thought it was a good idea, and then at another
point in time, or maybe it unraveled slowly, it just
unraveled and it was too late. They couldn't put the
cat back in the bag or whatever. Right, I went
to Classic Cinema. It's right, but I forget what it's called.
I think it's Paris Cinema in New York City. It's
(43:16):
right by like the south's end of Central Park, by
that hotel that's from Home Alone Looston, New York homelone two.
He's in that hotel. But the movie that was there
was called Hitman. It just it didn't make any sense.
I don't understand. Like me and my two buddies just
(43:37):
walked out of it, like I just left it.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
He didn't even finish it's a great movie.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Maybe it just didn't make sense. I thought it was horrible,
Like I like, I feel like the beginning of the
movie should like suck you in, and it just pushed
me out of the field.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
How late did you leave? How far I feel because
it was like that whole thing.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Like I don't want to ruin the movie for anybody,
but the justification for why he became the hit Man
didn't line up for me.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
But it was true? Is it? It was a true story? True? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. What is the film? You're in comedy? You're
a comedian. You're one of the greats, if anything, one
of the greats. What one of the absolute greats? What?
Maybe you laugh the most puffy bat?
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Oh man, that's a tough one. There's so many good ones.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
You like? You like a laugh? Yeah? I love a laugh.
He loves he loves it. Laugh this one.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Because I already set office space, I'm gonna go with
something else, right. I love the Jackass movies, right, They're incredible.
This is tough. Yeah, it's tough. Yeah, it's tough. It's
very tough. So what's your favorite funny movies? I would
never do this podcast. I forgot that people have I
(45:04):
love whenever anyone flips the script on your yougo, I
wouldn't do it. It's so funny to put people through
a podcast you never go through.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
I would never do this insane that anyone does.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
It's like James Bond villain to sit in their trap.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
Yeah, oh yeah, do you want to what would you
like on your bows? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (45:30):
I don't think you understand why I'm doing this. I'd
say one of the best. It's like Tommy Boy. Napoleon
Dynamite is another one, but the one I'll go with,
uh with Tommy Boy.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Right, I'd love tell Me Boy funny.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Tommy Boy is incredible, and Chris Farley is one of
the best comedic actors of all time. He nailed the
comedic yell. He's like, like everybody that can after him
has to like nod their head to him. I know
it's he didn't invent it by any means. You know,
there's a lot of comedic yellers out there, but I
think this era.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Yeah, I'm sure, I love comedic. Comedic yelling is one
of the funniest things ever.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
I just like that.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
It's funny to me when someone can pull it off
because then they're doing it in a way that doesn't
scare people. You're taking this thing that like tends to
happen in some of the most tense times in people's lives,
and then you're creating levity through it, which is I
think incredible. You know, so, like like Chris Farley is
really good at that. And then you got like Eddie
(46:45):
Peppatone's incredible at it, you know. Eddie's so fucking funny.
And there's a long list of people like Will Ferrell's great.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
At it, you know. And but I could go on
and on and on. Beta, Yes, ye are joy, I'm
my brother. You are a delight. However, when you were
trying to you'd started your YouTube channel that I really
hope you do. Start as a mini crisis. You're trying
to learn new skills, and you'd already learned trapez you'd
(47:13):
learn fork lift driving, you'd learn juggling, and now you're
trying to do the splits. You set up a series
of weights and pulley systems, but you took them to
the park and hung them off trees. You had your
legs splitting a bit. And then an old lady will
past with a walker, and a walker got caught on
a weight and it dragged it away, and a dog
(47:34):
got caught and alboy dragged it the other way, and
you got split in two. Your whole body and your
organs landed in the park. Kids screaming, dogs start eating
your liver. H people screamed, the old ladies like, I
feel terrible. I will need lots of MDR to get
over this drama. I'm walking through the park, you know what.
(47:55):
I'm like getting the fresh air with a coffin and
I go, yeah, pathw you've split yourself into again. Oh no,
and this time it looks fatal. Yeah, so I say
to the old lady, I'm like, stop crying, help me
pack this up. And I sort of have to get
all your organs that the dog hasn't eaten, and I'm
perfect patting them all into the coffin. It's bits of
(48:17):
park that's mud all sorts. It's a fucking disaster. The
police is so I can't get rid of it. Yeah,
so you're tied up in rights. Put you all in.
There's no room in this coffin. There's only enough room
to slide one DVD to the side for you to
take it across to the other side. And on the other side,
what film called Emily are you taking to show the people?
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Yeah, it's Amalie.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
It's got to be armory. It's always armor. We Yeah,
what's a sweet point. Well, you've done it this time.
You really gotta done it. Tell the people where they
can see and watch you and hear.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
You on my Instagram's probably my most active account, and
that's Pat birch Er p at b U R T
s c h e R. And I got some tour
dates coming up. If you click on the link there
in my bio, it'll let you know where I'm gonna be.
I'm gonna, i think, off the top of my head,
(49:16):
I'm gonna be in in San Francisco at the Punchline
at the beginning of November, and then next year I'm
gonna be in Colorado doing a bunch of dates that's
still getting ironed out, but that's like from like midway
and January. And at the end of January, I believe
I'm at the Houston in Houston at the Riot, and
(49:39):
then the next weekend I'm at Sports Drinks in New Orleans,
and then there's more and more dates being figured out
right now, but at this moment in time, that's where
it's at. But if you want to find out where
I'm at, jo I'm a meddling list or check out
the link in my bio. And that's that I think. Oh,
and should I start that? Should I start that YouTube channel?
You absolutely should.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Really good idea that's really good, and then you get
to do all your ideas. I won't do the splits though, yeah,
don't do this place.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Yeah, yeah, you'll be the stunt coordinator or the risk
assessment guy.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Every time I pitch.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Every time I pitch you stuff, I always try to
slide in the splits and you're like Article fifty seven denied.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
No, you cannot pitch something you have already talked for
your death. Yeah. Pat have a wonderful show tonight with Steph. Thanks,
it's lovely to see you. I love you, I love
you the bits, good night, good night. So that was
episode three hundred and nineteen. Head over to the Patreon
(50:43):
at patreon dot com, forward slash Bret ghostem for the
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for hat for giving me his time. Thanks to scrubys
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Peace for producing it. Thanks to you all for listening.
Taste of iHeartMedia and Wilfare's big money players Network forting it.
Taste to Adam Ridgison for the graphics and least to
line them for the photography. Come and join me next
week for a fucking brilliant guest. You are so gonna
love it anyway, I hope you're all well. That is
it for now. In the meantime, have a lovely week
and please, now more than ever, be excellent to each other.
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