Sam Richardson • Rewind Classic (I Think You Should Leave / Veep / The Detroiters) • #352 - Films To Be Buried With with Brett Goldstein

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Look out, it's only Films to be Buried With It's
rewind Classic season. Hello, dearest film to be Buried With Crew.

(00:52):
My name is Buddy Peace. I'm a producer and editor,
a DJ and music maker, a Jewish Crew alumni, and
for intro and outro purposes, I'm temporarily standing in for
your regular host and proud creator of this podcast. Mister
Brett Goldstein as Erica Badou once said, I was born
underwater with three dollars and six times. Yeah, you might

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laugh because you did not do your mass spot on Erica.
I got I think a C or a D in
Massachusetts C. But I did see the film seven twice,
Nightmare on Elm Street Part three once, and Fellini's eight
and a half, so I don't know numbers in it.
Every week Brett invites a guest on, he tells them
they've died, and then he talks to them about their

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life through the medium of film. However, this week we
are revisiting an earlier episode of the podcast while Brett
recharges the podcast batteries in retreats to the fortress of
Solitude for a moment or two. In this bridge between seasons,
this rewind is from June twenty first, twenty twenty three,
originally episode two hundred and fifty three, featuring writer, actor,

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improv great and producer Sam Richardson, a name and face
you will surely be accustomed to at this point, but
if not not, As always, it's a fabulous place to begin.
The beauty of these rewinds is we all get a
chance to go back over some episodes that we may
have missed first time round, and in the intervening time
you may become a fast fan of that person. Hopefully
that will be the case with young Sam. Here I

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will take this opportunity. That also remind you that Brett
has a Patreon page for the podcast, upon which you
get a bonus section on every episode with a secret
from each guest, more questions, and a video of each
episode which looks very nice and very fresh, and it's
just nice to see some faces talking. So if you
are of a supporting nature and have the means and
feel like some extras from this show, you'll find them

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all there. So that is it for now. Let's get
you all settled in for a wonderful episode with the
brilliant Sam Richardson. Catch you at the end for a
quick sign off, but for now, please enjoy this flashback
to episode two hundred and fifty three of Films to
be Buried With.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Hello, and welcome to Films to be Buried With. It
is I Brett and I enjoined today by an actor,
a writer, a comedian, an improviser, a Detroit, a.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Second citier, question man correct, a correct Torah, a film star,
a TV star, a Edwin Nikufua, a star of stage
and screen and of all our hearts, and currently in
my favorite comedy show.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
He's here, He's here, he's here. Please, as his famous
song goes, he's here, He's here, He's here. He's one
of the all time greats, an absolute legend. I can't
believe he's here, could you? Well, he's here, he's here,
he's here. Please, Welcome to the show. It's so wonderful.
It's Sam Richardson.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yeah, Julie, that's the greatest intro I've ever heard, let
alone beginning.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
You, Sam Richardson.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
I'm so good. I'm so good, my friend.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
What we've discovered, for those of you who are listening
on audio and not watching on video is both Sam
and I who Sam, as you may know, has the
reputation is like, you know, one of the loveliest men
in the world. Both of us have a blurred background
which suggests serial killers, and that's serial cow We will
keep it exactly.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
You'll never know until it's two weeks. Just blank walls
or plastic on the floor.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Now, Sam Richardson, so much to talk about. Okay, let's
deal with you as a human beings, shall we. Okay, yeah,
I'm about to bring the hammer down now. I was
very grateful and this is not me like name dropping,
but I was very grateful to be invited to your
twenty first birthday. Love you. And what I thought at

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that birthday is, you know in Moppy Christmas Carol, when
Scrooge and the end, he sings and if you want
to take the measure of a man, you simply count
his friends. And I don't think he's talking about numbers.
I think he's talking about the quality of his friends.
Not anyway. There's lots of people at your party, but
the loveliest people. Everyone there was so lovely, and I
thought it speaks very highly of you that not any

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of there lots of people here, but these are all
good people here. I think that's either you're the exception
to that role that says something very nice about you.
But then I also wanted A lot of them were improvisers,
and I was like, is it just improvisers a good
people discuss? Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
I think it's what I A lot of my friends,
my girlfriends, you don't talk about, like how my my friends.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
I think pride in having.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Like really good people's friends because I don't I don't
like to play like a better term like shade games
where I can't trust somebody.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
So you know, I keep my friends for a long time.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
And like having a party, Like whenever I have a
birthday party, it's so nice to see all my friends
together because I'm like, oh, yeah, you're a person I
love very much, and you're a person I love very much,
and you're a person I love very much. And I
think you guys will love each other or you're already friends.
I think improvisers can can. I'm not going to sit
here and say that every improviser is the greatest person,
but I think the nature of improv kind of leads

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itself to that because you have to be to be
a good improviser, you have to be open and like
willing to take something and grow with it and play
with that. So it's it's a naturally friendly interaction.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
You know, you get close to.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
People very quickly because you form an ensemble like in
an instant to then make stuff up or without a net.
And also, like with the other improvisers, we have like
a shorthand of like comedy, so we could all know
the stupids and then like kind of get out of
it and work for more bits or annoy everybody else
around you, unless it about around you is also improviser.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
It was a bit fast. Yes, tell me. You are
very very busy. You're in everything, you started everything, You're
very successful, You're brilliant. How do you.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Keep your ego in check?

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Like? How do you stay the man you seem to
have always been when you are a big Hollywood movie
star and there's a lot of politics to all this
stuff and all that. How do you keep your sanity?
I suppose in all of it, do you have a
secret or is it just you? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
I think to a degree it is like just how
I process information, how I am, Like I'm pretty naturally
buoyant and not to say bubbly, but boyant. Like I
can stay sort of report above thing even like in
troubling times, or like I very rarely get truly mad,
and like I mean I get mad but brilliant, Like

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I've maybe yelled at someone maybe a handful of times,
you know, from one of them being like yesterday I
yelled at somebody.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
So rare.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
I put on a best BUYE okay, a lot of
TV years ago, but I got the protection plan, uh,
you know, the total care package.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
So like if something goes.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
Wrong, you know, they repair it, they come and then
they replace. You plan to protect it, you know, you
pay a little bonus and then to the ideas like
an insurance and it might be even sucker insurance.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
But I'm like, hey, things break.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
So then my TV goes out, and so I'm like,
I call and have them come to repair the TV.
They repair it once, then it breaks again, repair twice,
another foul. Then okay, well now we can jump this
out so we can replace this TV for you. So
I get the replacement order thing. I'm like, okay, great,
they're like approved, go into the store, they'll help to

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swap out.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Fine.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
So I go into the store and they're just like
dude and he's like your typical like out of the box,
like a salesman, you know what I mean, like a
car salesman, salesman. You know, he rolled up sleeves, slacks.
I'm nothing against bald and but you know, it's all
part of the costume. And he's like, oh, I was

(09:04):
trying to try and I've built this guy before. He's
always like trying to upsell on something. But I was like, oh, well,
I've got this junk out thing. It's like, oh, well,
we don't take care of it here. It's at the
front desk best Buy. And at best Buy there's Magnolia Center,
which is for like the nice TV stuff, and it's
the best Buy a proper okay, So they're like take
care of this at best Buy it so I go
to So I'll go to the best Buy kind of
like oh, we don't have that here.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
It's gotta be a Magnolian.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
So I go.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
He's like I don't see it, and like just I'm
waiting for like literally an hour for this guy to
like do the thing, to look it up, and like
I can tell you he's not doing. I'm like, all right, well,
what's what's what's happening here. So okay, Well it turns
out like we're not going to find out, so it's
probably gonna be like a couple of days we'll find
this thing. So I'm like, all right, well why they
make me drive out here directly? So I go home

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and I'm like, he's like, y'all give me give me
your number so you know i'll call.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
You when it gets fixed.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
So I'm like texting him two days later, Hey, anything
going on? Now it's the weekend, holiday weekend, so I'm like, okay,
a couple days and half the week, Hey, what's up?
Nothing I call. I'm not seeing it. So now we're
like two weeks out. I don't have a TV on
my wall, so I bought another TV and I was like, well,
i'll return this when the other one comes through. Maybe
three days ago, I call Magnolia. I'm like, hey, what's

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to deal with this? They're like, oh, nobody put this
paperwork and her tipp tap done. So I'm done within
five minutes. And so yesterday I go in and I'm
like in the best bit and I'm walking and I
see him see me and like try and like zoom around,
and so he goes to the back and I'm like
just what, I'm like killing him like like a secret agent,

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you know what. I'm like going to this thing, and
I see where he goes. And then somebody comes up
and it's like, hey, can I help you? And I'm like, oh, yeah,
it's Peter here. And he's like the guy's like, oh,
I don't know, I don't I don't know if he's
inded it like I saw him.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
He said, he's here.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Can you tell him I'm here?

Speaker 4 (10:49):
And so then like they send up two other guys
are like, hey, what's the problem, Like, oh, y'all know. Finally,
in the middle of the transitional peoples like hey, what's
going on here? Oh, let me see this come through.
I'm like, it's come through. Here's the thing. Just to
make it happen, it's like all right, like an issue
rebund it has to be gift cards, and we can't
do more than a TV. TV is like, oh big TV.

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So it's like three thousand dollars Like I can only
do like two.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Thousand dollars a day. I'm like, what are you talking about.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
I'm like, this is you have the TV's here, give
me one from there today and he's like and he's like,
that's the law.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
I'm like, I like literally say, I'm like, look, I.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
Don't get mad about a lot of stuff, and I'm saying,
full voice, I don't getting mad about a lot, but
this is making me very mad. You need to correct this.
And and like you can tell, like everybody starts to
get like a little nervous. I'm like, ah, I don't
like to do that either, but like sometimes at some
point you gotta like really seriously. So like everybody's like
kind of like, oh this is and he starts talking

(11:45):
to me about like movies like oh, housees the writer strike.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
I'm like, bro, this is your connection.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
I'll a hell of a lot harder without a TV
to like kind of entertain myself with. So then like
so then they issue me two thousands of gift cards.
I got to go there today to get the rest.
But man, I screamed at this guy and the story
the only time, and like it's always like tech guys
like I had I'm sorry, I'm on a whole run
about times I screamed.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Well, keep guying. But I love. What I love about
that guy is at the beginning of the story, you
gut I've had run ins with this guy before. I
love that this guy is.

Speaker 5 (12:18):
He really he really is.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
And another time I got my house, I got it
wired for internet, put in you know, sound system and
security camps. I was like, oh, I know the security
cams that I want. I was like, get these and
put these security camps and do the install. So then
I come to see the install He's put in these
different cameras and I'm like, what are these? I told
you what I wanted. He's like, oh, no, this is better.
This is this is what I was like, Well, no,

(12:43):
I asked you for something very specific. And then he's
just like like trying to like like talk through and
I'm like, then I'm in my living room and I'm
yelling at this guy like he's a twelve year old
who you know what I mean, got into an R
rated movie.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Anyway.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
These these are very short and like not really.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Not really like a fight fight, but that's the extent of.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Like when I get upset, you know, he'll take it
out and still talk about the whole world. This this
guy got all black Lives matter just from the TV.
I'm like, oh, yeah, it's really fascinating, but how do
you handle yourself.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
I'm sure it's happened in your life. Have you been
on a set way you know you haven't liked what's
going on on the set, or you're being us to
do something you don't want to do, or it's going
to get a direction you don't like it. Are you
good at handling that sort of stuff? But you just
do it very nicely?

Speaker 4 (13:36):
I think I am, because i think I've got a
pretty good bedside manner. If I'm like dealing with something
directly with another actor or whatever, I think I'm pretty
good at being like, hey, this is kind of weird
and why are we doing this for the most part,
or I don't have a problem like going to the
macro view and being like, hey, either director or producer,
like this is a situation, this is how I feel

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right now, This is where I see it's going. This
is what I'm doing the corrected But know that point
A is when to come, point B is going to come.
Point C, And so I'm letting you know because like
we're a point A, I'm going to bring this up again,
we're at point B. So know that I've said where
point C is going to be. So I'm very like
matter of fact with that. But I'm also you know,
I'm I'm incredibly patient, so I you know, I can

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see things through, but I have maybe two a fault
patients because I think all so many things are impermanent.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
That's so interesting that and you've been producing your own
stuff now you made were Wolf yourself made.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
Were Wolves Within.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:33):
Yeah, I was a producer on that and.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Set your first film.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
Thank you as a producer. Yeah yeah, I was.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
It's like my first like like like full all and
like leading role and movie to I mean, I've done well.
I've done another couple of things where I was like believe,
but like that was like Top Marquee is like my
first thing. I had a really great time with that.
Josh Rubin directed that, and they do with Milana a Benja.
It was such a fun movie. Like we shut that
maybe two like maybe like a month, like three weeks

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in the Catskills and like while we're filming that movie,
it's a horror movie comedy, but like as we're filming that,
a real horror movie is happening in the background because
we're in this remote thing and the TV like in
a zombie movie. Yeah, there's like, oh, COVID cases are
in China, and like in the beginning of the movie,
and then as we get further it's like, oh, one

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case found in America. Okay Trump, Oh it's only eight,
but that's it. We're fixing it. And like this as
the movie goes on, like this is happening in the background,
and like it starts to explode when we come so and.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
We're remote from everything.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
So when they come back home, things and we're in
a cabin, right, so they come back home, like everything's
kind of different, Like it really started to take hold.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
I was going to do press for this.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
Other movie I did called Hooking Up, and right before
like after our first I think we did KKLA and
then everything shut down. There's no more press than or anything.
So it went from a movie that was going to
theaters to like on the Man. That was the first
one of that for me. And it's like everything changed
right then and making that movie.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Man, and I saw that film. I think I saw
that film in a hotel and I remember being like,
this is a cinema movie, like it's a real I
felt sad few that COVID happened because it was like, oh,
this is like a big screen. This is like a
proper cinema, fun horror comedy, deserve big s.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
Yeah, I never got to see it in the theater.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Man, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. They'll do it. They'll do
a retrospective season at the BFI of your your work
and you'll see it.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
That's all I asked.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
That's all Heze asked, retrospect me. You know what I mean.
My one other question for you, did you do cruise
ship improv? I did? I did Second City. I'm obsessed
with cruise ship entertainment. Please tell me how long you
were and the experience of that and what it's like.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
It was, so working in Second City or at Second City,
we had a contract on cruise ships, so we would
go on the Norwegian Cruise line. So I was I
was living in Detroit, and I was like trying to
work in Chicago. I was living in Detroit, working at
Second City in Detroit, and I was trying to get
a job at Second Seed in Chicago. And you know,
I was like but then They're like, hey, do you
want to do a cruise ship? So I was like, oh, yes,

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I do. I was like twenty two twenty one, Like
during twenty two years old go and live on this
cruise ship for essentially in total, I did a year
five months, came home for a month and a half, and.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
Then the five months on the Norwegian Pearl.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Where is the Crazy Guy?

Speaker 4 (17:31):
So I went through the Caribbean, so we went to
like to Saint Lucia and Tortola.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
And Somanna and osam Mel.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
You know, it was wow because I was like so
young relatively speaking, because I'm only twenty three now.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah years yeah, yes, right, yeah, year those two years
I got, yeah, I got.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
Well, I'm kind of you know wise for my age,
like I live in old Man. But it was a
wild time because when I was on there, we only
worked for like four hours a week because we were
these guest entertainers. So we had we did two best
of Second City shows, which are an hour long, and

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then two improv shows at the end of the week,
so each an hour long, and then maybe you would
do a workshop four hours.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
That's five hours total.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
The rest of the time, I was just like on vacation,
you know what I mean, I'm going all these places.
I'm twenty two, I'm drinking like I'm on vacation, and
like so every week on the ship had like a
sort of a cadence. You know, you'd get used to
the sort of rhythm of how things went. So on
Sunday you'd get into port, like.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
We were reporting in New York.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
We'd get to like New York passengers would get off
from the week before, a bunch of new passengers would get.

Speaker 5 (18:48):
On this thing.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
And this is like a huge ship you're talking about, like,
you know, thirty five hundred people on this ship, three
thousand people. So you know, the first day, you know,
I've spent the day in New York, so I'm feeling
very metropolitan, and yeah, I'm coming into the out of
the ship with my new stuff like whatever. I went
to the Virgin record store. So you come in and

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everybody it's like, uh, fun celebration. Everybody's like on the
all these people are new to the ship. They're kind
of like all film things out. So you go and
you chill up in the lounge a little bit, having
a drink.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
But then you kind of go.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
And you hide away in the crew areas, and in
the next day people are like a little bit wildly footed.
That's the time when the people who had we had
what was called blue card access, so we could do.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Passenger and crew things.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
So during that Monday, we go to the restaurants and
like all you could eat twenty dollars steakhouse and all
you could eat fifteen dollars sushi.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
But doing that m yum. And then how many of you? Sorry,
have many of you in this?

Speaker 4 (19:46):
In the group, there's five actors and the music director
who like play at Fianda all this stuff, so like,
you know, we you know, we're family. And then Tuesday
come and one run of Tuesday would come and we
would like go to the first island so that we'd
be on like in Barbados, you know, and then Wednesday

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we'd have our show and all of a sudden you're
a celebrity on the ship. Everybody in the ship then
knows you, you know, so they're like, hey man, do
that block dof thing?

Speaker 2 (20:15):
This one?

Speaker 5 (20:16):
Do that?

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Hey do that?

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Oh you should come and live in my basement. That
would say that. So often's like we have a nice
we have a nice finished house in Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
You come and live here. I'm like, what what do
you think? Are you rescuing me? What will I do there?
How nice of a basement?

Speaker 4 (20:37):
Like that the most money I'd ever made, because which
is like, you know, nine.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Hundred dollars a week.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
So I'm like, I'm rich, you know, no expenses, just
you know, food, just kind of like drinks and if
you're drinking up in the passenger area, the drinks are expensive.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
But I'm also twenty to twenty one.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
And just drinking like I'm in college, because I should
be in college, and so.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
I'm I'm living it up.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
And then at the end of my five month contract,
I made no money because I spent it all. Then
I had to go to another contract and then live
that life again, and then I moved to Chicago. They
hired me to the touring company.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Okay, take funow up questions. One are you still in
touch with the five plast the musical director? The other
four not really?

Speaker 4 (21:27):
You know we talked to I do well, I nowhere
four of the five are.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
And then in the other half. So two different contracts
with two different groups. So the other one, I was
on the ship with my friend Sean Hanlin, who like
one of my first ever improv teach was my actual
first impropt teacher when I was sixteen years old. And
then we became roommates on the cruise ship, so I
see him all the time. Yeah, so I so I
see them more often I see the first group, but
still friends. We're all still friends.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
That's nice. And then the other question is how many
passengers did you date either the year? Oh my goodness,
so you weren't supposed to date passengers, but they couldn't
say what you could and couldn't do on like the
land and like you to hang out because like it's
up many I say, a handful, many, many handfuls. Okay,

(22:20):
many you I want to ask you, let's how many
other things? But I also think I've probably got to
tell you this thing which I forgot to tell you.
What's that? Oh? The thing is I forgot to tell
you this. I should have probably said it earlier.

Speaker 5 (22:35):
You say, what's up? Open book?

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Like I said, you sure, because you seem you know
we've said this about like you're very yes and and
supportive and you've got my back up your back.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
So whatever, I am, unflappable, whatever, whatever you say, trust.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Me, you're this guy, You're gonna be fine with it.
Well before I say, I guess do you do you
like life and stuff? You seemed like a happy choice.
Love it maybe my favorite thing?

Speaker 5 (23:00):
Right?

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Okay? Well yeah, I mean you've had listen, you've had
an awful lot of yes and training and support the idea.
I suppose, as they say, you know, sure, yeah, I
actually think this is going to go fine. So I'll
just say it. What's your favorite thing? Again? What did
the thing you like? Most of them?

Speaker 5 (23:18):
Life? And living and living this life? That?

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (23:22):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Well, according to this, I wish I hadn't asked you
what your favorite thing was? Now, well, uh, you've How
do I put it? How do I put it in?
I should probably just say it you what's the what's
the word? You've died? You're dead?

Speaker 5 (23:51):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Man, I knew, I know. I feel like such an idiot.
I should have you know it's for Brian, and asked
you what things you liked. I'm sorry, just life was
my favorite? I just said, why did I tempt to feed? No,

(24:12):
I'm not dead, your dad not dead. You can't be it.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
Just had a nice meal and I went to bed.
I've been I've been doing this new. I've been doing
this new. I've been like cooking a lot, you know,
so like I've been like working on these recipes, and
so I've been like doing a lot and I've been
trying to like eat lean me. So I did like
the other day, I did like a tuna tartar and
it was like really nice.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
You just like dice it up and then you can
like put it over like rice or like whatever.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
You know.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
That was nice.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
And the next day I did like this beef tartar
and I was like, oh, this is kind of spicy.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
You know.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
It took a really nice wagu beef and diced it
up really good, and then you it was scary.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Like you don't cook it.

Speaker 5 (24:51):
So that's like fun. So the meat is really good.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
You know, it should be good.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
And so then like yesterday or last night, I guess
it was. I was like, well, you know, these two
things are good, like you know what I what I
like to do. I call it land see sky, So
I do you know my my sea is like a fish.
My land is like a meat. And I do sky,
which is like a bird. So I was like, oh,
I'll do chicken tartar. So I made uh so I
just like skin this, uh this. I took the skin

(25:18):
off of this chicken breast, like nice up, real nice
I made it's like a real nice case of it,
and then you know, put salt on it, you know,
but light touch. You know, it's all about the season.
And you don't want to not over I don't want
to overdo it, don't want underdo it. And then laid
it over this bed. But yeah, you don't under road ticket.
Yeah no, exactly, just want you want to be just right.
So like no oven in my assuming that the room
temperature is going to bring it to like a healthy level.

(25:40):
So I left it out outside so we could like
get that like sort of like room temperature.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
And then I ate it and I went to bed.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
I think you, I think you I have poisoned yourself
with row with row chicken.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
That's what I did in that.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
That is what I did.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
I think raamed gun. I think frames emphasis doesn't cook
it enough. And I don't know a lot about I mean,
I guess I don't either. Here I am.

Speaker 5 (26:09):
Well okay, well yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
Well you tried something, and that's the main thing. Can
you get somebody to erase my computer? It's so blood.
I looked at you and everything's bad. Good good, toss
it out?

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Uh do you worry about death? I do?

Speaker 5 (26:30):
I do I think about it and like what what happens?

Speaker 4 (26:34):
You know, or like what doesn't happen because like the
like this idea, like the input stop reading, you know,
so like you don't see anything, you don't feel anything,
you don't hear anything. Then like what is there to
receive any inputs? But then like at the same time
and like what am I doing right now? And what's
the difference? You know, think about it all the time?

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Right? Oh good? Do you have any theory what happens
after we're doing in puts and outputs?

Speaker 4 (26:58):
I mean my theory is that it's just nothing, you
know what I mean, Like they seems this to be
and then like if there is like some sort of
furial sort of consciousness, it's unaware of itself as being this,
and then it just moves on to like another thing.

Speaker 5 (27:13):
It's unaware of what this was or what it will be.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
So I mean in that way, I guess comforting, but
not really because like I like this, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah, So you think it's like feel nothingness.

Speaker 5 (27:27):
That's what I think.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Oh, this talk of AI And I've been reading a
lot and listening to a lot of scary podcasts that
tell me we're already dead. Yeah. My question, My question
is if we're already computer programs we think we think
stuff though, right right, yeah, exactly. If so, I still
can't compute nothing this because in your nothingness, wouldn't you

(27:52):
experience nothing this?

Speaker 4 (27:54):
I don't think, so there's nothing to experience, and like
there's nothing to experience the most nothing. I always think
about also like oh, you know, you put your consciousness
in a computer, you know, or whatever, but like there's
got to be some point where you stop being there
and then like this thing takes over without the actual
memories you have. So this entity isn't me. It's something

(28:14):
that is affects simile and it has like you know,
data of me and like what my memories were, But
it's not me because I could then exist and look
at this thing. Therefore I am separate from it, you
know what I mean? So I think about that often.
So the idea is just to prolong my life with
the robotics, but then never turn off the brain.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Keep the brain, keep the brain, so just keep replacing
limbs and skin and skull, keep the brain so the brain.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
Come with it like fresh exactly exactly keeping and you
think that anything that's going to with with the brain
is the stuff around it with it. So I think
we're going to find some sort of like good juice
for a brain to be in that's like a forever
juice brain can live. And even if it's like a
wi Fi, so like it's sits somewhere very safe.

Speaker 5 (29:04):
I've never thought about this before, but now I'm like
coming idea.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
The brain sits in like a you know, like a
storage warehouse, and if you're really rich, it's like a
very nice one and it's like perfectly controlled. And then
like be a wif Fi. It beams your stuff to
your robot body, so you're you know, it's safe, so
you can't be destroyed, you know, in less than this house.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
So your ribo buddy is like your perfect buddy, looks
at you, perfect you. And then if you get you know,
lined up, just making you rubber buddy that looks perfect.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Just making me robot body. Yeah, and hopefully residuals are
working so I can afford it.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Oh yeah, after they strike, I think you'll be fine
if we if we're know AI already.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
I mean maybe we I play a lot of I
play a lot. I do a lot of gaming, you know,
and then you sort of watch how the sort of
programmed responses in some of these AI figures and characters
are and you're like oh, and then you sort of
build the world out and you're able to build these
like sort of simulated universes and worlds like oh, that's
probably not too hard to do if you have like

(30:06):
advanced advance advanced programming. Like I'm like, oh, I think this,
but it's such a program that it's like the program
is that I think this, you.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Know what I mean? Like, I, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
What is the you know, like like my programming is
to say that, oh, I feel like this way, and
like another sub category of my programming is to like
make me feel that that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
But am I this relates to films, which I guess
at some point we're gonna have to talk about. Oh sure,
it's as much as I Before we started this, I said,
is there other things you don't want to talk about films? Well,
I think I've been thinking in relations to film because
I have been thinking a lot about this AI and

(30:47):
whether it's a warrior or not. And you know this
thing of like right, says, you know, we're all this
strikes going on and where everyone's worried about AI. And
I have looked at the AI thing and I've said,
write me a scripts, right me at headline script and
it's dreadful. It's dreadful. And I read it. I go,
this is no good. This isn't a worry to me.
But I think artists, let's use the word I rarely do,

(31:09):
but let's use it for now, artists versus AI. Right,
that there's this lovely dream we have that AI can't
do what we do because AI doesn't have feelings and
thoughts and random whatever, and people will connect to us
in a way they won't with AI. I don't know
if that's true. I like to think that's true. I

(31:30):
don't know if it's true, because then I go, maybe
it isn't. Maybe an AI can learn enough and replicate
it and no one will. No. But here's my point.
When I watch a film with CGI in it, I
still to this day I believe. And I could be
wrong because maybe I've seen some excellent CG that I
didn't realize was CGI. But when I watch stuff like

(31:52):
King Kong Peter Jackson's King Kong I think it's very
well made, and he's an excellent filmmaker. I don't believe
for a second that King Kong is there because he's
not there because he's a computer, do you know what
I mean? Like there's some discon absolutely between the actual
King Kong and Themie Watts. They're both doing good things,

(32:12):
but in my soul, I know he's not there because
he's a computer, do you know what I mean? Like
there's exactly like there's a part of me that goes.
I don't think I've ever been scared by a CGI
thing on camera. When I think about Jurassic Park, the original,
you go, the scary bits are when the creature, the
puppet creature head comes in that is real, that is

(32:34):
physically there. When you see his giant foot, that is
physically there, that's the scary bit. The bits where it's
CGI aren't scary. I don't think I could be wrong,
but I feel like person versus computers subconsciously we feel,
oh I do. I don't know if I can speak
for everyone, but you know what I mean, I think
I think we do.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
But like we we sort of in order to enjoy
we like do that illusion sort of like you will
let yourself try and believe that it is because you're like, oh,
what's the story here?

Speaker 5 (33:04):
This is? This is this thing in the story.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
But any I think if you just have and like
look at you're like, oh what I know, that's computer
and what it's supposed to do is like elicit the
idea in my head and man, like the idea is
to try and get as close to being real as
it can be. Like I'm a raachnophobic, so I can't
look at even CGI spiders because then they make.

Speaker 5 (33:24):
Me think of real spiders, right.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Right, you know what I mean, Yeah, they mess me
up because I'm like, the movement is real enough, and
like as long as I can see that and my
brain even I'm like, I know, I'm like, look at computer,
but it makes me think of what a real spider does,
and now I'm thinking about spiders and so but I
think with like that, it's true, like the scariest parts
of the Jurassic Park are when it's the puppet versus
the thing, because like I think we are also able

(33:48):
to pick up on like the subtle like things that
are in space, whether you know, even to like everybody's
looking at something empty even the best actors are still
like looking at something empty. Say Brendan Frazer is right, Yeah,
you can sense it and you're like, oh, well, there's
nothing actually taking up space there. So you're like looking
at a point. But in reality you're probably be looking
at many things on this thing, you know what I mean.

(34:11):
But you're like looking at its eyes because where the
tennis ball is.

Speaker 5 (34:14):
But like in reality, like if it's.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
A ten foot you are of a fifty foot dinosaur,
you're probably like looking at all it and then like
when it makes that movement, you're doing that, but like
you have to predict it and then like the then
program the other thing to either match it or you're
just like looking at this when it's going there.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
I don't know how far out we are from like.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
That not being a thing.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
Maybe as programs can then see where our eyes are
looking in the program something at the other end of that,
like eye tracking.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
I don't know. I don't know what we're you gonna
say about, Oh, it's Britain Fraser.

Speaker 5 (34:47):
The reason he did so many like CGI movies.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
You know, he was like in that Looney Tunes movie
and he's in like Monkey Bone.

Speaker 5 (34:53):
And other movies like that.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
It's because he's like the best in the Mummy movies.
It's because he's the best at interacting with things that
aren't there.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
He's like the best at it.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
If anybody's the most convincing, it's him at like like, oh,
that thing is there, and everybody else is like He's like,
I'm gonna remember any of his movies.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
I'm gonna send you to Mummy.

Speaker 5 (35:15):
Hell.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
I think that's a line from the movie Have you
have you had a three D model of you done yet?

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah? When you have to time to get yes, uh huh.
That's scary.

Speaker 5 (35:28):
That's scary, it really is.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
I'm like, oh no, I just hope the cameras aren't
good enough, good enough.

Speaker 5 (35:33):
They're like, what, we still need you?

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Maybe neither of us are here. Yeah, I got news
for you, buddy, boy. You do love me, I know.
But the good news is that's heaven, real heaven, and
you are in and everyone that is so excited to
see you, and it's filled with your favorite thing. What
was your favorite thing? It was living?

Speaker 4 (35:56):
It's filled with the living living.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
I see your stuff. She's fans of everything you've done
and your life and your your heart and your body
and your face. They love it and what they but
what I want to do? They want to talk about
your life through film. I can't believe how long we've
talked before getting to this. They want to talk about
your three film we might have to. And the first

(36:24):
thing they want to know is what is the first
film you remember seeing? SAMs said, It's a few things.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
I'm like, I'm remember what the actual first thing is,
because like Little Mermaid just came out, the new Little Mermaid,
and I think that maybe the first movie I went
to the theater in like eighty nine was a Little Mermaid.
I can remember going with my dad to see that movie.
But then like, if it's not that I was like
even was watching a movie on tape or something.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
It might have been The Land Before Time? What double Bell?
You know what I mean? Either one of those shots
to kill you?

Speaker 4 (36:56):
Yeah, Jesus, I just love with them.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
You need child.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
I'm my mom's only child and my dad's fourth and
separated by like fourteen years at least.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Shit, guys with the huffs not super close, but we
do love each other. You know. The way you set
that up sided like you were just your mom's favorite.
My mom's child, my mom. I'm the only one the other.

(37:34):
Did you see he went to see Little Mother with
your dad's on? You're right, I did. That's breaking and beautiful.
Yeah yeah, what a maybe? I love that film so hard.
What's the film that's scaredy the mist? Do you like
being scared? You've made of horror? For God's sakes? Do
you like it? I do? I really do.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
I mean, I say, horror isn't like my super genre.
I'm like, a new scir movie comes out and I'm.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
Like, boys, roll up.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
However, my friends are like boys roll up, and I'm like, yeah,
I'll go, let's do this. But a movie that scared
me the most, there's two. One I was talked about
before as a rachnophobia, Like I got actual rectophobia.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
From watching this movie. I was like, oh it sucked.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
I was. I was in Ghana as a as a kid.
I was maybe about six years old, and my I
was watching a recophobia with my cousin Julian, and it
gets to the part where they're in the basement. Dransperder
goes and I'm like, ohh And then my cousin goes
and I get up and I run and like, so

(38:34):
it's this house in Ghana. So like there's like a
hall that's the living room, leads to a hallway. On
the other side of that wall is like a patio
out there, patio area. Now hallway leads to the kitchen
and on that patio, that wall on the hallway, the
patio is like these three windows and then throws some
light on the patio. So I'm like running through that
hallway and I stopped and I'm like okay, and then

(38:56):
like my back is against the wall with the windows,
and I look at the wall. It was white wall,
and they're like a bat symbol is like this sort
of shadow of this spider. I look, there's a spider
like this big right by my face.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Very quick interruption note from producer Buddy Peace. That's me
if you don't have the Patreon only video version of
this podcast. Just for visual reference, Sam makes a gesture
to give an idea of the size of the spider.
And so let's say it's about the distance between a
fully extended forefinger and thumb on an adult's hand. Apologies,

(39:34):
fellow arachnophobes.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
No I even like right now, like I got goose bumps.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
Talking bad goose bumps, you know, So that's that's that's
real rachnophobia.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
And the other one that was how to erect the phobia?
How to you guys?

Speaker 5 (39:52):
Exactly straight up.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Like how to have.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
My dad rented this movie from a trade win video
and uh, the movie was called Armageddon and it was
as a documentary.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
So this movie came out way before the movie.

Speaker 6 (40:18):
Uh with with I don't want to miss a thing,
you know, the Bruce Willis masterpiece, but Ben Affleck liv Tyler,
So this is this movie.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
This is a documentary about like whey is the world
could end? And I remember my auntie Leticia, whose house
I was in in Ghana, was in Detroit visiting and
we were got this video to watch and I remember
I was I didn't know what Armageddon meant, so I
was just like making fun of the name, and I
was like that was the song Arma getting Home. And

(40:51):
I was like, this is very funny. He's laughing, and
I said, am I getting home. We sat down and
watched the movie and there were so many images of
like this total annihilation, like meteors hitting the earth, and
like I was like, the jokes became fewer and then
I was just vexed.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
And I couldn't sleep. But get it, I'm gonna get
into bed. I'm gonna getting no sleep. Oh wow, that's
a fun family. Oh yeah, traumatized. What about crying? That's
the film that made you cry? The US? Do you
cry cry? I?

Speaker 4 (41:28):
You know, I cried, but like in odd and random times,
you know, very unpredictable in ways. So I was I
was shooting the movie Mike and debut wedding dates in
Hawaii and the movie Inside Out came out, and so
we were like, let's go see this movie.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Had like an off day.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
So we went to see Inside Out and I was
I remember specifically saying, uh, just so you know, guys,
I don't cry at movies. And so I sat down
and like literally the opening movie, you know, a little short,
the Pixar short came on about like the the volcano
US yeah, the lava Yeah, and I'm talking about that
when it happened, and I started falling, like just like

(42:05):
I was like, oh, oh no, okay. So the movie
starts and like even just the music, Michael, you know,
I started to like well up a little bit, and
I'm like, uh oh, this movie's unlock something in me,
and like throughout that whole movie, I am just tearing
up and I'm crying because like the music, with the

(42:26):
storytelling and at the very end or or like the
even the middle, like the bing bong and like the
end where she's like talks through like like the idea
of like the.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Memory being this.

Speaker 4 (42:37):
I'm I'm crying that whole movie because I'm like, this
movie is like the most emotionally educational movie sort of
like like it just teaches you, I mean, not kids,
but people that like the sides of emotions, like not
that everything has facets, you know, Like I love that
lesson of like you know, bad memories having good parts

(42:59):
to them and good memories having bad parts them. It's
so real, so universal, I think, so educational, and I
wept the whole time.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
We did it. I did a Films of the Decade
special of This Time, and Inside Out was my greatest
film with the decade. And I never want to say
it again, but I think, yep, I think it's profound,
at least one of the most profound films that I
think it's incredible. It's amatic.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
I agree, that's amazing.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
It really is.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
It really is like films of that content your life.
I would put that on the way up that list. Incredible, Yes, incredible.
The pacing is brilliant in that movie. The music is amazing,
and the story is.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
And it's a suconn adventure film that then pulls you
along the whole time, and like you grow with these
characters and then like anytime look at a thing, lets
you see the different facets of a character, but like
in a natural way where you're when it hits you're like, oh,
I'm not going.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
With you, you are me, you know, like and just
the the so much the thing about parenting, the that
they kind of inadvertently sort of damaged the girl by
saying you'll be a brave girl for daddy sort of
thing like Jesus Christ.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
When she when she didn't say that, like she finally like,
I'm not okay, oh oh my goodness, ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
What's the film that you love? People don't like it.
It's not critically acclaimed, but you love it unconditionally. What
is it? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
This movie is not critically I think it's not. I
think it got panned pretty hard. But do you remember
the movie by Centennial Man?

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Oh man, that's another film that made me cry to
death by Sinti as a killer.

Speaker 7 (44:41):
It made me cry. I love that movie. I love
that movie so much. Robin Williams Tour the Forest Man.
It's a killer, It's a killer, and I think the
movie got.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
Like panned and like, talk about this movie. I love
it so much.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Killer. He's that's the right button make you cry? Yeah,
there you go.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
Did we just undo the whole AI argument with.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
No dead We've been dead from Star Trek?

Speaker 4 (45:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Fuck, I said, it's such a good shot. I don't
think that's ever come up on this show. Love that. Oh,
I love that movie. He makes the tackers Chris Galamber's always.

Speaker 5 (45:32):
Yeah, he really does, he really does.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
What's the film that you used to love?

Speaker 4 (45:38):
You loved it, but you've watched it recently and you've gone,
this is not for me anymore.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
You might have changed the film mus still be good,
but you've changed.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
What is it I used to love? Or I just
thought I used to love the movie Legend you know
that Tom Cruise, that's right. I was like, oh, this
movie is like this movie was doing like Lord of
the Rings before anybody was doing Lord of the Rings.
I was like, this movie is fantastic, and I sat
down to watch it like recently, and I was like,

(46:06):
what is even happening? Get to Tim Curry and the
giant double costume. That was like the best part of
the whole thing. Yeah, the makeup on that truly amazing.
But the movie surrounding it, God doo doo.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
It's not really Scott. That's really Scott, isn't it. It's
really Scott.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
So I'm not working in films every again. But he's
done better. He's done better.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
He's done better, you know what. I think it's one
of his greats. All the money in the world I've
never seen that. I think it's one of his greats. Yeah,
I will watch that. A really really good film and
amazing that he Reshot Christopher plumbering it in like twelve
days less than it's amazing. Yeah, I say, I still
haven't seen it, but in twelve days right, amazing and

(46:55):
in such a way that you're like, I can't imagine
this film with anyone else seemless seamlesstt. What is the
film that means device to you, Samuichit not the film
itself might be any good, but the experience you had
around seeing the film will always make it important to you.

Speaker 4 (47:14):
It's a recent one, and like Scorsese would be mad
at me, but it's Avengers Endgame.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
I buddy, I.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
I'm you know, I'm a Marvel fanatic and like comic books.
And then MCU I was like, loved it, and every
step of the ride, I was like, everything has a planned.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
I was like the whole time, I was like, this
is hold on, this is ather thing.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
And I remember I got knee surgery the day the
movie was coming out, and so I was on Viking
in and my buddy Mike, who we always go see
these movies together. It was like, oh, she's probably not going.
I'm like, no, man, we're going. So that same day,
on crutches, we go to the Chinese theater and we
watched that and every big reveal I'm looking loopy as hell.

(47:59):
So I'm like, and I'm talking about I've never had
a bigger experience, like because like they really like like
the landing of the plane on that was so phenomenal
and like every.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Character You're like, I love this moment.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
It's like it's it's the best case scenario for what
a trillion dollar movie franchise can and that that that
phase could end with that.

Speaker 5 (48:27):
That's like a very important thing.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
I go back and I watch the portals scene often,
but I watched it with the audience reaction on YouTube,
and it always like it's.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Like truly, like really magical. That is really it really.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
Is, you know, oh cheering, it's like gives you goose bumps.

Speaker 5 (48:47):
It's like truly a mutal experience.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
It's an incredible achievement. And I always wonder about the
reality of I assume I haven't looked into it my
stargo and I but like without the big post scene,
the moving scene, Yeah, was everyone there or what?

Speaker 4 (49:08):
I can't believe they weren't believe again, nobody's looking at
each other.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Yeah, you know what I mean. It's the hell of
a lineup. And you're like, come god, imagine it.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
Ole ever, just the amount of assistance that would have
to do there, and just all the single banger trailers,
just as far.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
Too many trailers, y'all do it?

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Oder line to.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
My lord, just build a Starbucks. At that point, what
is the film you must relate to? Sam Richardson, That
is a good question. So I always kind of relate
to sort of a person in a different world than
they come from.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Growing up, I grew up between Ghana and the Train.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
I always felt like I was ever you know, I
was never fully American.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
How much were you in? God? That was it like
six months? Six months?

Speaker 4 (50:07):
It was like three months, nine months, and then vice versa.
So it was like kind of even spent for a
first and second grade. It was I was just in Ghana.
And then you know, up until high schools. Maybe i'd
go for like two months and then come back, and
then go front three months and then come back.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
Fits in the summers there you still got back random
not nearly as well. Last time I was back, I
went with Porn O'Brien and that was like four years ago.
So hopefully I'm going to go back. I mean, I
want to go back this year, but we'll see if
that can happen. I always, as a kid like identified
with like Superman in that yeah, so like and so
the movie Superman like sort of like this idea like

(50:43):
being from like these two different worlds and like one
gives you abilities with the other, and like not knowing
what that really was, I just always so I would
always wear Superman pajamas. I'd be Superman for Halloween, and
I would always like, just like it was so about
Superman and so the Superman movie. It's like the Donner

(51:04):
Superman movies are just incredible bits of cinema just in storytelling.
I didn't even realize how good they were until I
got older and rewatched them, but I would watch them
a lot. But I just identify with like this idea
of like Clark Kent having this thing that or Superman
having this side of it like this that's sort of
the duality of this person who is like also just
trying to like be good.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
You know.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
I kind of always identified with that, and you know,
like I was a big Jesus complex.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
So Superman question for you, are you Superman in Ghana
or in Detroit? Where are you Superman? And where are
your Clark? Can I'm Superman in Detroit because.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
Maybe when I was younger, though, I think I was
Superman in Ghana because I had all the American stuff,
so like being American so cool, you know, so it
was like, oh, yeah, I'm hip, I got all the music.

Speaker 5 (51:53):
But now that's not currency, you.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Know what I mean. So you know, interesting, what is
Oh God, Sam, here we go? Oh God? Ready, I'm ready,
buss God, I can't believe it. Here we go. Oh god,

(52:15):
what's the sexiest film we've ever saying times his head.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
So God, Oh, but I'm dead and I'm blushing. I
was bright purple cheeks of blush. That could be you know,
also just be Samonola. I'm gonna say it's not a
movie that has a lot of sex in it, but
just everybody in it. It's so sexy and like it's

(52:39):
just like a very sexy movie. Mister and missus Smith,
fuck it. That is as sexy as fuck.

Speaker 5 (52:45):
It's sexy from top to bottom.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
There're sex pots at the height of their sexy game
and just being sexy with each other.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
That movie sexy, sexy, sexy. It's sexy, pill sexy from
stuff to finish.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
Even though when you're supposed to be like boring, I'm like,
yeahs sexy, even when you're like, I'm like mad sexy.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Funny duddy, you could funny daddy. Oh live of me.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
Wherever you want, Buddy doaddy away.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
What is there's a sub category troubling is worrying? Why
don't the film you found a browsing you weren't sure
you should what is it.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
So there's a movie called I'm Gonna Get You Sucker
film right, it's so funny, it's a great film. Used
to watch a movie Eliza Kid. And then there's a
scene where he's like, you know.

Speaker 5 (53:47):
He's like with a woman. She like starts to take off, like.

Speaker 4 (53:52):
She takes off her eyelashes, she takes up her wig,
takes up her fake leg and I'm like, whoa, she
takes her butt and I remember seeing that button.

Speaker 5 (54:01):
I was like, that's sexy. I love that butt.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
I don't know what to do with the butt just yet,
but I know that's a sexy little butt on the floor.

Speaker 5 (54:11):
Is that how sex is done? Troubling? Troubling earlyer boners.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
That's about a flowbot. That is the troubling by the
just the dis buddy flowbo.

Speaker 5 (54:21):
You know, it's the epitome of unnatural. You would have
that flo.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Right, what is objectively the greatest favorable time, But don't
be your favorite, but it's the greatest.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
I'm going to jump between two answers here because one
is like a more recent movie and then one I
feel is like probably a common one that you probably
hear a lot, so as well, I'll like, so the
common one, I'll say Good Fellas because it's truly, like
the top to bottom, the greatest movie.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
It's the best. It is the best even from the beginning,
like that tracking shot.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
It will set you up for the whole world in
he introduced these characters and like just the best film period.
And then the other movie I'll say is Once upon
a Time in Hollywood. Okay, you know, I agree, but
it's pretty phenomenal. It's pretty phenomenal. It's a pretty phenomenal film.

(55:17):
Why objectively the grits is that what I think it
follows like that that's sort of like storytelling. Well, okay,
it's hard because I want to say a Tarantino movie
because I feel like the way he does things, and
I would have said in Glorious Bastards, but because of
like watching when you watch that movie over and over again,
there's there's so many layers to it, which I'm like,

(55:38):
it's a puzzle, but it's not an arduous one. I
feel the same thing happens with Once upon a Time,
but the performances are so brilliant that it does the
same things. But like with tightened performance, you know, I mean,
there's not as much happening, but so it's a more
close story and sort of like it's one where you
go back and you find the pieces. But I think
it's it's a bunch of people at the top of

(55:59):
their game making great content.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Good.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
I've given you good Fellaws. Good Fellas is probably the great.

Speaker 5 (56:10):
Good Fellas is My true answer, is my true answer.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
But I want to I want to keep the love
going for once my time in Hollywood so that people
put it in that category, because, you know, maybe as
we learn more about it.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Yeah, I've really liked the book. The book, you right,
I'm sure you've read it.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
I just got the book. I haven't read it, literally,
just got it. It's wonderfully entertaining. It's yeah, right, right,
you want out of a book? You know, what is
the film you could or have watched? The lightst Ivor
and iver Get. I'm sorry, keep on hearing with these
multi answers, but one would be The Ninja Turtle's Motion Picture.

(56:48):
There is nineteen ninety one, Yes, the original. I've watched
that movie a thousand times. Dark and good, but like
really good. Until you go back as an adult you're like, oh,
this is this is actually a story it's a good movie.
And the these turtles are real again, no, cgi, these
are real turtles, so like they take.

Speaker 5 (57:07):
Up space and I'm like I feel them, I know them.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
While while they're fighting.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
In the it seems heavy, but then they seem able
to like move in the world. So if you try
to pick them up, sure, hard, but if they try
to do a backflip, they can do it because they
have the turtles and Ninja's Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
So that another movie.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
That was like in my top top, like I watched
a movie a thousand times, The Adventures of Baron Munchausen.

Speaker 5 (57:29):
Oh wow, what I love that movie so much.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
It's such a great, fun, brilliant movie. It's in like
a trio of three movies, right, Terry Gilliams, he did
three movies. They're apparently like supposed to be like they're
a set It's Time Bandits Brazil and The Adventures of
Baron Munchausen, and it's supposed to be imagination and youth, imagination,
middle age and age. So like I'd always just like

(57:55):
watched this movie because it was so the spectacle of
that movie first off was like my mind breaking up,
Say what a world this is? And like sort of
like the relation to time as well that he has
where he's telling the story, but then he's like in
this and he's going in this world and he's going
to you know, be with the festus, you know, or
or like like Robin Williams as the heads and his
wife is God's another sexy move where like he's having

(58:18):
the heads are separate, but they're they're making nookie, you know.
I this movie. I think the movie is so brilliant
and it's so funny, you know.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Yeah, what it's out never come up.

Speaker 4 (58:30):
First film, right, Thurman's first film, and that sequence Venus
is Venus. There's so that's the soundtrack. I listened to
the soundtrack over here and there. It's like like there's
like a waltz they do and they're they're dancing and
they're like they start dancing so romantic that they are
floating in the sky and the music that plays is
just so.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Grand and like like a beautiful waltz.

Speaker 4 (58:51):
I think I think about that all the Time's first movie.
She's presented like the the like an oyster, you know. Yeah,
it's it's the image of who's Michelangelo that with the
where it's what is it's not aphrodity. It is the

(59:15):
Roman equivalent of venus. It's it's venus. If you pause
the image for a second, it's like a perfect Maac
simile of painting.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Wow, I need to watch that again. Excellent, Now some
reason you're not a negative person? Celested this fairly quick?
What's the worst film? Old? Like? You like old? You
know what I'm going to say it. I think, oh,

(59:45):
here's my view, and I think it's the first draft
and he just shut it. I agree, and I think
it filled the amazing ideas. And if a couple more
drafts and sort of fit them together slightly better, it
would be a five that much. Yes, But I think
he went there, let's shoot it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
I mean, it's like if you have a Mercedes Benz
and you don't put the engine in there.

Speaker 5 (01:00:07):
Right, it's not a great car.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Got to fix the wheels and the tires. I like it.
It's got, It's got enough. I days, isn't it that?
I'm like, Wow? Fair enough?

Speaker 5 (01:00:22):
Now, I think you made the movie, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
And your the ideas are there, but things so you're like, oh,
what could have been? That could have been the best movie?
One I'm watching that movie and I'm like, how.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
No, No, I love it. It's great. Now you're in comedy,
you're in lines of comedies. You're also in my current
favorite comedy show. It's on TV that I love so much.
If any of you haven't seen it, I think you
should leave. I love it so much that I can't
believe it. I think I sometimes watch it like I
can't believe this exists. It's so funny, like and I

(01:01:01):
also watch it. Joe Kelly, you're Detroit's creator and good
friends and Specialfoy, the co creator on ted Lassa. He
and I were working together when it came out the
new season, and he watched it all in one night,
and he said, the next morning, you watched it all,
And I was like, no, I've only watched it because
I don't want to blow it all in one I
love it so much. I want to like savor it.
I love it so much, believe.

Speaker 5 (01:01:23):
But I mean part of the joy is to rewatch it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Yeah, it's better every time you watch it. I have
like top five sketches, and I think I think number
one may be Little Buff Boys. The Little Buff Boys consition,
which is you at the very top of your game,
fuck me, every single line, every moment, the way you
drink water, the way you get mad at the guy

(01:01:47):
for picking the wrong kid. Ah. If anyone who's not watched,
please watch. I think you should leave. There's I don't
think there's anything ever ever funnier.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
Maybe ever it's I mean I objectively, I say you correct.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
It is right, It's the funniest thing of all time.
It's it's why.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
It's it's so unique too, like like sketches, not unique,
but like sort of like what it does and it
just gets there directly and like does that and like
it follows it's its own sort of like uh theory
and like does that so well? It's true, it truly
is really really but.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
There's something magical and maybe this isn't for everyone, but
like I don't know, Tim Robertson, you're a good friend,
but I I feel like so many of the sketches,
I'm like, I totally even though it's surreal when it
goes off in such a serial direction, I go, I
know what you're talking about. I know where this came from.
I feel you. The zip lining sketch in the new season,

(01:02:42):
I'm like one hundred per I get that one hundred percent.
I know exactly what you mean. That's what I would
be doing.

Speaker 5 (01:02:50):
And it seems like the zip line.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Yeah, it sounds seems like such a sort of surreal idea,
but I go it's come from him guying. I fucking
love zip line.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
But you know exactly, like what's something The observation is
so true. It's like, yes, it lies the best thing anyway.

Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
If something like that is there, why wouldn't you want
to do that?

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
All? You know? Anyway? You love him right, you love
each other.

Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
We love each other too much. We're best best best friends,
best friends.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Love to hear it. So saying oh that, knowing that
you one of the funniest and involved in the funnists,
I know, the funniest everything you've done. Having said all
of that, what's the film that made you love the most?

Speaker 5 (01:03:40):
I watched this movie all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
Still, The Harlem Knights is maybe my favorite comedy of
all time. It's the top to bottom so funny. Eddie
Murphy is like he's able to be charming lead man
and still so funny. Knock him out part It was
hard to do because he's playing straight.

Speaker 5 (01:03:57):
Man or like what I don't know that he's playing the.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Yeah, the straight guy.

Speaker 5 (01:04:03):
You know, he's the straight guy.

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
But like still even knock these things at the park
and then like surrounded by like Red Fox and Deliries,
Richard Pryor, you know, like the wall. Everybody is so good. Everything,
it's insane.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
It's very very good. That's a good. Listen, you've put
up a lot of stuff that hasn't been said on
this show. So Sam Rich is in. You have been wonderful, wonderful.

Speaker 5 (01:04:30):
This is great, This was so great.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
However, you was cooking. You remember you was cooking. You
were trying things. You know what. You hadn't had a
TV for four days. You've gone mad. You were like,
it's time to cook. You made tuna tata. You made
steak tatar. The obvious next move chicken tata. You put
you raw chicken, you chopped out nice and fine, and
you let it cooked him room temperature. You left it

(01:04:54):
out overnight, not just room temperature, but filled with bugs.
And then the next he said, I'll take a little
taste to this, this little masterpiece. You had a little
spoonful and you went about your day. He said, say that,
my Grandfa's going to love that. Later he said he said,
I won't even put it in the fridge. I'll leave
it outs at the right temperature. He went for a walk,

(01:05:16):
and you were walking through the grove listening to Tony Bennett,
and just as one of those fountains went off, you
fell to the floor, clutching your stomach, and people went,
is that Samrichison off the telly and the films and
the cruise ships. You went, yes, and your stomach and
you were in terrible pain. It's very sad. People were going,

(01:05:38):
I can I have a selfie? You were going, but
I think you made the chicken and people taking people
lying on the floor next you taking savage and you said,
it's one to meet what could you call an ambulance And.

Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
The guy he's so funny, he's doing bits, He's always
doing bits, and he was I think they were like what.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Someone said, where was women? Should have been on the
big screen, and you went, I didn't even get to
see it on the big screen. And then and they said,
I'm so glad I got to meet you, and you said, well,
thank Ghostbusters. And then you die. And I was walking
past at the coffin, you know, I'm like wandering around
them all and I go, is that bloody Sam Richardson

(01:06:17):
with loads of people taking selfies with his corpse? And
they go yeah, and I go, move away, you you vultures.
And I go there and I get bloody. And the
thing is because of the flesh eating bugs from the
chickens tote. Your stomach has grown twelve sizes. It's now
filled with bugs. I say to one of these people
that are going, have you got an axe?

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
And one of them goes, yeah, always, I go, can
I borrow it? Get the acts to start.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Chopping you up, chopping you up, chopping your chopping your
people start screaming as still some people taking selfies. Okay,
stop taking selwies. Help me out. Someone else got that yesterday.
Three acts. I get three acts of people chopping up,
chopping up anyway, scream scrape together. You know, I look
like Tata. I've got Sam Tatar. I put you in
the coffin. Round you in there, but more of you

(01:07:00):
than I was expecting. The coffins. Absolutely, there's only enough
room in the samtomes for me. It's just slide one
davy day in the side of the coffin for you
to take across to the other side and when you
get there. It's movie night every night. What film are
you taking to show the living when it is your
movie night? Sam Richidson in Heaven?

Speaker 4 (01:07:19):
Oh my goodness, that's exactly what happened to I remember,
I'm going to toss Tombstone in there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Yes, why wouldn't you. It's a wonderful film.

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
It's a wonderful film. It's got everything you need, you
know what I mean. It's historically accurate. It's performance from
from Malcolm. Yeah, I heard, it's all transcripted, and like
I remember hearing the director was like, let's just put
the words upatim.

Speaker 5 (01:07:50):
You know what I mean? And proofs in the Pudding movie.
I can watch every day of my apper life.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Wonderful film, Summerton. Is there anything you would to tell
people to watch to listen to coming up for you?

Speaker 5 (01:08:04):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
I would really love it if people watch The After
Party season two and like, go back and watch is
there season twosules? You know, I think you should leave
watch them twice? Making nice. I think you should leave
on Netflix and yeah, just find me out there. I'm

(01:08:29):
out there. I'm living. It's very accessible.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
He's always at the Crista himself he's lovely unless your
your TV salesman, and then watch out, you fucking watch
turn the hammer on.

Speaker 5 (01:08:47):
He's going to go right now and I deal with
this man.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Oh my god. Yeah, good luck.

Speaker 5 (01:08:53):
Instruments of war behind me, savage, and thank you for.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Your time and for your brilliant brilliant I would hope
to see you in real life. Thing have a wonderful
yes at the TV show Good day to Thank you so.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Much so that was a rewind classic with Sam Richardson.
Be sure to check out the Patreon page at patreon
dot com slash Brett Goldstein where you get extra chat
and video and otherwise, if you fancy leaving a note
on Apple podcasts, that would be lovely too, but make

(01:09:26):
it a review of your favorite film, much more fun
and a much more interesting read for everyone involved. Thank
you so much to Sam for greatness and presence on
the podcast. Thanks to Scrubius, Pip and the Distraction Pieces Network,
thanks too. And this is where Brett thanks me for
editing and producing on the podcast, so I say it
is a pleasure. Thank you to iHeartMedia and Will Ferrell's
Big Money Players Network for hosting it. Thanks to Adam

(01:09:47):
Richardson for the graphics, then Lisalidam for the photography. We'll
be back next week with another rewind classic, but that
is it for now. Brett and I and all of
us are films to be buried with hope you're all
very well in the meantime, have a lovely week, take
some deep breaths, and now more than ever, be excellent
to each other.

Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
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