January 12, 2022 • 54 mins
LOOK OUT! It’s only Films To Be Buried With! THE RESURRECTION!
Join your host Brett Goldstein as he talks life, death, love and the universe with very funny comic SEAN McLOUGHLIN!
Be alert and forewarned, for this is the second coming of Sean as Brett had some unfinished business to settle with the rapscallion… A wonderful return where scores get settled and said unfinished business gets marginally less unfinished. Super fun from the beginning, kicking off with some hilarious holiday mishaps and adventures, and including the fun of falling in love, action and stunts, feeling too much in films, and altogether so much more. Between you and me - and I don’t care who knows - this one’s a true treasure. Quick side note - Sean last appeared 150 episodes ago! Imagine that.
* Audio note - there is a slight difference in quality in this episode, but if you let your ears relax into it the content will shine through. The circumstances were unforeseen but thanks for bearing with it. It might be the case in the following episode too, but we should be golden thereafter. Big love. X
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okayl it's only films to be Buried with the Resurrection. Hello,
and welcome to Films to be Buried with the Resurrection.
(00:20):
My name is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian and actor,
a writer, a director, a sockhanger, and I love films.
As Stephen Maraboli once said, letting go means to come
to the realization some people are a part of your history,
but not a part of your destiny. And the film
and net is a wild, wild ride definitely worth getting on. Wow. Yeah,
(00:41):
Steve Mariboli, I concur well done. Sound good point. Every
week I invite a special guests over, I tell them
they've died. Then I get them to discuss their life
through the films that meant the most of them. But
not this week. This week I use my newly acquired
shamanic powers to bring back a former guest from the
dead and ask them twelve new questions. And this week
sees the return back to life of the Brilliant, the Wonderful,
(01:03):
the Amazing stand up and writer mister Sean McLoughlin announcement.
I'll be doing a huge live Films to be Buried
with Live, live, live, live at the Southbank Center on
Saturday twelfth of February, two days before Valentine's Bring a Date,
Bring someone you want to ask out. It's going to
be a hot one. Tickets are going fast. They're available
at Southbank Center, dot co dot UK and place of
(01:24):
dot co dot UK Saturday draft of February Southbank Center.
But there head over to the Patreon at patreon dot com,
forward slast breat gold Steam, where you're getting extra twenty
minutes with Sean. We go deep, we talk about beginnings
and endings. You get a disgusting secret from him yours.
Get the whole episode, uncut and ad free, and there's
a video. Check it out over at patreon dot com
Forward flast Brett gold Steam. As usual, watch Ted Lasso
(01:44):
on Apple TV Plus. Also, the film we made in
twenty fifteen, Super Barb, is finally available at Amazon Prime
in the States as it is in other countries, and
you can also watch Soulmates on Amazon Prime. So Sean
McLoughlin is one of the great stand ups in the UK.
I'm a huge fan of him as a comic and
as a man, and as a friend who hadn't seen
(02:04):
each other in a while. This was a very lovely
chance for us to hang out. I loved it. I
hope you love it. He's brilliant. I think you're gonna
love it, love it. So that is it for now.
I very much hope you enjoy Episode one hundred and
eighty one of Films to be Buried with the Resurrection. Oh.
One thing to note maybe needs to be added in,
(02:25):
which is the sound may not be the best it's
ever been. On this episode, we had some problems with
the makes buddy piece. The genius producer has done everything
you can to fix it. Hopefully it'll be fine. It
is not fine. Content is really good. Please do your
best to cope with it, and we may have this
problem one more time and then all back to normal. Okay,
thanks for understanding, all right, lots of love. Okay, bye
(02:46):
bye bye bye bye bye bye bye, hello, and come
do Films to be Buried with the Resurrection. It is
I Brett Goldstein and I am enjoined today by a writer,
(03:08):
an actor, a stand up comedian, and many many specials
released now man you can see all of his specials
on the YouTube's I Believe and they're all fantastic And
the last one is one of the great specials of
all time. He's a husband, he's a lover, he's a peacemaker,
and he is also someone who masturbates heavily. Please welcome
(03:28):
to the show. He's coming back. He's one of the
all time great apps, one of my favorite people. I
can't believe he's come back, even after all we've been
put together. Here he is. He's finally here. Can't you
believe it. Please welcome back to the show. It's the
brilliant it's mister, thank you, thank you. That introduction really did, really,
really did plumb the depth, didn't it. Brett. Yeah. The
(03:53):
thing is I wanted the interaction to be loved because
I think you deserve it. And I ran out of
actual jobs, even though I'm sure more, but I don't need.
I don't need all the job. That's the thing. I've
listened to a few of these. I'm a big fan
of the show. Not all the time, you know in
it out, Yeah, only the big boys. You talked a
(04:14):
lot of I suppose what they called sort of Polly maths,
people who are multi hyphenits. Yes, and it's fine that
I'm not one of those. You're pretty mud You've got
three I've got three, but you did about seven. There, husband,
I can't as a as a gig. Well, it's a yeah,
I mean it's not like it's not like, oh like
(04:35):
you went on Jimmy Kimmel, didn't you because you were
You're on a big TV show. Sure they're not going
next up we have someone's husband. Yeah, but according to
eighties comedians, that's a job. Yeah, there's a job. It's
a slug. What could I say. Yeah, hardest job in
the world, lugging this ball and shade around. Ain't seen
(04:57):
your ages. I love you. I don't mind saying it.
That was It's good to have you back. When did
we last see each other? I saw you. I was
thinking this three times during the pandemic when you were
living very close to me, and now you're in La
you're in the City of Angels. Yes, I saw you.
(05:21):
I think I saw you preted lasso and posted lasso
and it was great seeing both of those things, and
that I think there was one rogue meeting when we
were both running through the same park. Yeah, you looked
like a like a man in like an Adidas advert
like you were. Everything was perfect, and I was like
(05:43):
a scarecrow who had been enchanted and was running away
from a wizard, and I was so ashamed to even
be next to you. That is not true. You look
as I tell you what this is? How much I
love you is. I was trying to break a p
B and was run be run. I was trying to
beat my own PB. I saw you. There was a
(06:03):
split second where I was like, am I going to
stop and ruined this? Run? Yes? I have because I
love that man. That's really good to know. Did you
what have you since broken that PB? Well, that that
day's POB was a little about four hours because of you,
four hours for one mile. So I'm not sure that
was it. I thing I like about you, Brett is
(06:25):
you don't you don't hold a grudge. So yeah, we
used to live very near to having that like that.
And once we met up for a coffee in a
place and they put us in chairs that were so
low and grand. We lit that sort of fat Henry
the eighth, Yeah, I remember that we looked heavy the
(06:48):
eighths fat now would be very smelt. Should have seen us.
Just give us a quick update on your life since
we us saw you still married, that's still going on.
When was I last on the shop. I think I
think I wasn't married when I was on the show. No,
I can't believe I must have been married married to
the Well I'm now what. I'm still married, but it's
(07:09):
to a different woman that was my first wife. She
died tragically or comically. Uh depends, I mean, or isn't
all death? Both tragic had comic she um she fell
over and hit her buttox so hard that she had
died of shame. Well, yeah, I remembered the funeral a
(07:35):
very wide coffin. Um. See, you married your a new
work you you recently went on holiday. I only know
this because they follow your wife on Instagram and didn't I.
And sounds like you've got up to a couple of
comic mishaps. Tell us about them. Sure, that was like
(07:57):
like Jay Leno in his pub tell me about a
funny anecdote in your recent life. Please tell me a
funny anecdote of my research to read. No, it was fine.
We went to I've been doing a lot of work.
I feel very lucky since we're you know, in the
last six months we were able to do gigs again,
and I said yes to everything, as I think, I
(08:19):
think you're in the same boat, and the things you
say yes to everything, and I sort of think, well,
half of them won't happen. But the problem is when
they all happen, you're absolutely fucked. Yes, and I'm very grateful,
but we hadn't had much time together, and my wife
booked desperately cheap flights to Sicily and Italy because I
(08:40):
think people I think people don't know this, maybe in
other countries, because I assume we have a lot of
North Americans and the like listening to this. You can
fly from the UK to like other countries for so cheap.
Like our flight back from Sicily was five pounds each
Jesus Christ, which is so cheap. It's mad that you
(09:02):
can fly all over Europe for cheaper than it takes
to get a train to Manchester. Yeah, that's what I got,
climate change. It's the fucking train companies. Yeah. Um, but
it was fine. I mean, the thing is, you know,
you go on a holiday and I don't about you.
I was like, oh, we've got to relax a bit.
(09:23):
How long does it taste to relax? And there was
no relaxation because we broke the law one second after
Bandish you meant to take an arrival test when you
get into Italy. But we just left the airport and
then I went in. I went in basically to have diarrhea.
I have to go back and have diarrhea. And in
(09:44):
the airport and as I was there, there was a say,
anyone's just to ride in England has to take a
COVID test immediately. And I had to run out and
get my wife and go. We have to get a
COVID test. Got it. They went to get a rental car.
I mean, we've got I don't drive big cars. We
were given this mega car that exploded basically as soon
as I turned on the engine like a genuine and
(10:07):
I was driving it down the street a bit and
that I had to take it back and then we
got given another one and we went into but we
got given a Renault Cleo, which is exactly my ball pass.
It's my speed. It's at one point six, it's it's teeny.
It's barely a car. You're very tall, you look sort
of like you have to open the cent rove to
get in. It's a it's a comical car for I
(10:29):
would describe as a comical man. And the problem with
it is the people of Sicily, and I love Italy,
but they sort of view all roadsides and traffic lights
as sort of advisory. And so that car was absolutely
fucked by Dave. Like it was fun, but we was.
(10:49):
I was saying to my wife, if they honestly they
won't take this car back, like they'll say, this is
your car, now, you have to just buy it off.
We drove back from Catania. We know, we drove through Catania,
which is this really amazing city, but it is like
it's rough round the edges. Got a flat tire. I
called up an Italian man to come and fix it.
(11:11):
It turns up with the biggest toe truck you've ever seen.
I was having lunch with my wife. I saw the
toe truck. I went, I'll just go see him change
the tire and then I'll come back to you. And
then one minute later I was in his tow truck
being driven to the outskirts of towns. So because he
says I cannot do it here sat or spatch or Spatch,
and my wife goes, where are you, I go, I'm
in the tow truck that is driving past you right now.
(11:34):
I mean, the whole thing was very Um, I guess
it was an adventure. I think it took me too
long into the trip to realize we were having an
adventure and not a holiday. And that's the difference. Both
of them are great, but I think I wanted a holiday,
you know, I wanted a film like The Holiday, Yeah,
and instead I got like National Lampoon's Vacation. Instead, you've
(11:58):
got the end of the Holiday running through the snow
in higher heels. Yeah, that's why I got. Yeah. Also,
what I did like, just from your worst of the
stories was well, you had vanished. I was sort of
following the story of this through her stories. She had
a nice cocktail and a lunch and just seems to
sort of She at one point said, I don't know
where my husband is, has just been driven off in
(12:20):
a track and may never see him again. But yeah, yeah, yeah,
it was. It was a real weird win for her.
I think I think a bit of time alone and
husband potentially killed. I mean, really, the thing with Sicily,
as well as it is, the whole island feels like
a gangster film. You know, it's where the Matthew kind
(12:42):
of were born. And and I'm not if I was
a location scout for a film, and I wanted to
find somewhere where you would kill a tourist and definitely
get away with it. It is the abandoned railway station
where this mechanic drove me to as you put on
a spare tire that was genuinely also flats like glad, Glad,
(13:12):
that sounds like wonderful adventure. It was okay, Jordan McLoughlin,
you have been resurrected. You have been brought back to
life because I like you so much. However, what points
in your life would you like to be brought back to?
Any regrets you'd like to change? Or will you return
(13:36):
to now designe or I'll kill you again. I listened
to a couple of episodes of this by the way,
just because you ask people to you always go. You
begged the guests to listen to it, presumably to boost
the numbers. And at the end of the legs is
like and subscribe, and I have to say, I don't
(13:56):
think like you go. You're going in two footed on me,
like I know that you do this to the other guests.
You don't threaten I can kill all the other guests again.
This is the first time I've threatened to kill this
early in this show, a man who's already deceased. I'll
go back. I wouldn't go back anywhere, I guess. I'm
just I'm happy where I am. Come back to now
(14:17):
wouldn't change ending. I scored a goal when I was
fifteen in Sunday League football. Yeah, that I do think
was probably the high point in my life. So maybe
i'd go back to like fifteen seconds before I scored
that goal. Oh wow, I scored a header from outside
the area that equalized the game, and it was Yeah,
it was really good. Here's my concern with that. I
(14:39):
get it. I totally get it, and I'd love to
relive that moment with you. But fifteen seconds you're bang,
You're in it. Maybe in the hesitation of like oh god, ohma,
you missed the shot, I'd go like one second as
you already started to jump, Yeah, then you're in bang. Yeah,
I mean that's that's true. Who knows what sort of
butterfly effects, you know, if I hadn't scored that then yeah,
(15:01):
like maybe i'd miss it and yeah, I mean yeah,
and something terrible could happen, like Trump wouldn't win, or
but going back to fifteen seconds, which is what you're
doing because you've chosen that. So I just hope you
ready for that book. You then got to live everything
else up to now. How do you feel about going
through all that stuff forget? Yeah, I've just said that's
(15:23):
that's the problem. The next fifteen years would be a drag.
I'll just go I'll go back now, I'll be Now
that was good. I'm fine. Yeah, yeah, I'm okay. I'm amazed.
But almost no one has gone back too earlier than now,
which tells you something about the sort of guests I
have one. They're around quite content or fairness, imagination, really
(15:49):
fascinated to know by the end of this, which Colin
maist all under. But I think I think you should start.
But the thing is you you get very good, high
octane guests who have done a lot of good things
in their life. I would just I would say, I'm
probably the least successful guest you've ever had on this show. Okay,
who is I'm not going to name them. I think
(16:14):
if you if you sort of if you were to
just go outside and just get someone off the street
and go right, you're on my podcast, they'll be like
I would have gone back before I cut my leg off.
That's true. If you had your leg that, I can
see you wanting to go back. I mean, you wouldn't
go back, would you. You wouldn't go back. Sometimes I
(16:36):
think if I could going back to my twenties with
the stuff I know now. You know, it's not that
I don't know where I am, but maybe I could
have got it quicker, you know what I mean? Yeah,
and also made a bit more of I felt there
were probably years that I wasted by being too sort
of shy or worried about it. I could have really
(16:57):
cleaned up. I think you would. I think you would
just end up up in a different way. M I
think that's usually how it goes. Don't you? Thank you
for believing in me? Now hostility to this episode, welcome
back to life. We've missed you, but the living. Also,
(17:21):
I want to talk about films with you. Can you imagine?
First thing I want to know is what was the
last film you saw? Sure mcduffin. The last film I
saw was a really good film, which is lasy for this.
It was the Grand Budapest Hotel, Grand Budapest Hotel. Where's Henderson?
You've heard of it, right, Yeah, that's nice. I think
(17:45):
it's a really good film. I think it's really fun
and funny, and yeah, it's just a great jaunt, isn't
it it is? I love Ray Finds in it. I
think he's very very funny. I think he's very good,
good comic performer. Yeah, I think it's I like Wes
Anderson the most when he's not sort of crowbarring in
(18:08):
a lot of sort of saccerin. I do like his
other stuff, but this one, I feel like he he
really goes for the juggular all out in terms of
making like a crowd pleaser. Like it's a pure it's
almost a pure blockbuster, and I really like that. Yeah,
it's great. Yeah, it's got some secret datness. I quite
like the secret dabtoness in it that it brings in
(18:29):
towards the end. I like that. Yeah. Okay, thank you, well,
thank you sul mcglfin. Who do you think should play
you in the film of your Life? I mean, I
bet you've got a good book of this. The answer
I've got come up with is Jeremy Irons. I love
it because I sort of, first of all, I don't
(18:50):
know who is funding this film about my life, but
I don't know what sort of Disney the Disney corporate
film they're putting it. John Lasseter's on executing it. He's
executing it peaked up, writing and directing. It's going to
be very powerful. Well yes, I think it is going
to be powerful. But it must be based on something
(19:12):
I do when I'm older. I've done nothing of that less.
It's about what I was fifteen and I scored a
goal against Seaford Football Club. It's called well, when I
was fifteen, I looked like Jeremy Irons does now, so
this is perfect. I like Jeremy Irons. I've watched two
(19:33):
things with him recently and I think, oh, he's bloody good,
isn't he He's bloody good, so I just thought I
put him in. I also thinks he's a class older man,
and like physically, I think if I can look like
that when I'm older, then I've done well. I'm hoping
of it. One of those guys who physically looked peaks
(19:53):
at like sixty five, I can see that you do
look like MESSI end ions Messy Irons. I can see that.
One of things I watched a bim when he was
in The Watchman TV, which is very good. I thought,
very smart, rewarding, wonderful. I don't know how they What
does he make of that? What does he make it?
What does he get? They go, you're playing like this,
(20:14):
You're playing like an old superhero who's got a bunch
of clones. That fuck and you're naked for a lot
of it. Right, okay, right, all right? Yeah? Did he
know what was going on? That's a really good question.
I don't know. I mean, I guess it's I guess
he does. It seems like he's quite um. I think
he's with it, isn't he? I think I don't want
(20:36):
to I don't want to miss but I think he
said he's one of the ones that he did say
some some, don't you see. I think he's definitely definitely
getting the job now in my film is coming Back.
I was going to get all the canceled performers the
star of my biopic, Lovely Choice. You're a romantic man.
(20:57):
I think you're very romantic. Romantic. What's the most romantic
film you've never seen? I've chosen for this one. Palm Springs.
It's so good, Palm Springs. I'm so glad you said that.
I adored it when I watched it. It's fucking great
and I feel like it was maybe it was a
sign of when it was released, because that it kind
(21:18):
of didn't get as much as it could have got. Yeah,
I thought it was so brilliant. I think it's so lovely.
It's like a great, great romantic comedy. And I watched it.
It was during the pandemic. It came out at least
in the UK, and I thought it was it was
like one of the best things I saw all the
last year. Probably it's so good and really romantic in
(21:38):
a way that's sort of quite understated, and I don't know,
it's tremendous. And it's also it's only ninety minutes, Like
there's not an app there's not an ounce of fat
on that film. Yes, please, Yeah, it's it's and it
stays smart and so many ideas. Yeah, it's the romantic
comedy of Do you ever see the Platform on Netflix? Yeah?
(21:59):
I did that, the Spanish one. Yeah, I was so
impressed by how many every five minutes they had a
new idea every five minutes. I agree with that about
well both of them, but with Palm Springs it's like
the plot twists, but it's all through dialogue. It's all
character reveals. None of it's gratuitous or kind of out
of nowhere. Yeah, I think it's what I'm just wonderful.
(22:21):
I think it's a great film about what I like
about it, and I think it's what rom coms don't
do as well as they should. It's about two fun
people having fun and falling in love is really fun,
and I think most romantic films sort of forget that.
It's really fun, isn't it. Falling in love is really
(22:41):
fun is the sense as no one says, but it is.
That's why people do it. I think it's got to
be fun, isn't it. And that's why I think you
can You can see the two actors and they're I'm
not even like, you know, I don't know that much
about them. I thought they were perfect. Yeah, that's a
really nice thing. And yeah, fully in love is fun,
(23:02):
and it's usually portrayed is dramatic and hard. Yeah, but
the thing is I think it does it does get
into that later on, because then it becomes about what,
you know, what happens when you're in this thing and
it's just between you and me, Brett, I think it's
at least as good as Groundhome Day, and I don't.
I don't give a fuck who knows that hangling. There's
(23:23):
very mixed messages, firstly between you and me, between you
and me, and then you said, I don't get who knows?
What do you want me to do with this information?
Between you, me and the skywriter I've hired. Yeah, yeah,
I think Palm Springs is as good as, if not
better than, Groundhome Day. Okay. I want you to know
(23:44):
that I'm actually a very good secret keeper and that
will make sure that Okay, okay, do you know do
you know a podcast host that is bad at keeping secrets?
Because you need to get me booked on that ship.
That's what I should have said when you were to
tell me a funny I don't note about your life.
I think, Bobs. Yeah, it's yeah, very very good. Sure.
(24:09):
What is the best film you ever saw that you
never want to see again? This one's easy for me,
so Necticky New York, you piece of sh Why because
you need to see it at least three times? Now?
You don't. I'm not I'm not having that. What do
I need to see it for? Because this layers upon layers. Yeah,
(24:31):
I don't think. I know, because I think it is.
I think it's brilliant. I think it's magnificent. I think
it's a total work of art. But I watched it
when it was on some TV channel. I think, got
a film four at eleven pm. I thought, Charlie Coffman,
check it out. And it's really long, and it's it's
so it's just too much. It makes me feel too much.
(24:55):
And I did remember it ends because it ends. It
ended like two in the morning. I'm sat there totally
alone watching it. The final word is like the emotional
crescendo of the film, and I just I don't think
I slept about three days. I still think about that
film all the time. Okay, what fair enough? There's only
(25:15):
so much I can feel. And I think that that
film like pushed me beyond my limits, which means it's
really successful. I guess. I do think it's a great film.
Like Roger Ebert that we've talked about before, he said
it was the best film of that decade. He's right,
do you think so? I think it's it's like it's
really really, really special. Yeah, I mean Rush Hour three.
(25:37):
I think is from the decade, but New York was
also very good. It's really it's really as good as
I don't care who knows this, but I think it's
as good a same themes. Um, do you see Selective
(25:58):
New York three times or more? Maybe? For I think
I three times? And look, it's not a film I've
almost like every day like I need gaps. You know,
it's not it's a it's a it's not an easy
it's not an easy fantastic. It's not that fully enough.
I think if they edited out all the scenes of
him at the dentist, then maybe I could if there
(26:18):
was like a you know, you have a director's cut
and it's usually longer, there should be like a like
a whimps cut going to be a whimps cut where
you cut out because I thought there's so there's almost
too many ideas, you know, it's like, yeah, I don't
even know the themes are. So it's sort of about everything.
It is about everything. But the thing I take from
(26:38):
it that for a film that is about and I
think it's very relatable. And maybe I've talked about this before,
but he's a man obsessed with death and illness and worrying.
He's so worried about everything. He's pleasantly worrying, and yet
he outlives everyone. He's that he has all this love
around him. It's quite movie like. He's around black people
(27:00):
who love and endore him, and he keeps sort of
missing it. He's in it, but he can't. He's so
analyzing it all the time and overthinking it that he's
missing living as a creative. Yes, do you find that
that hits harder? Do you? Because I think it is
(27:21):
a film about creativity. I don't think it's an accident
that it's a film about a guy trying to make
a work of art. Yeah. I think it is about
what the toll that that can take on certain people. Yeah,
I definitely. And I think the whole idea of never
finished it is never finished. It's never you know, he's
making this play for like seventeen years and it just
(27:42):
keeps going. It's not ready yet, it's not ready yet.
I understand that feeling, and I also understand the feeling
of the fear of when it is finished, because then
what do you do? Like it's so you're creative endeavors.
I don't know if we're will be serious with me,
between you and me, and don't tell anyone. But I
don't get Is this when I'm making something or doing
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something gig or anything or new material? Yeah, it's the
happiest that it's where I feel most fulfilled. It's like,
this is what men to be doing. And when it's done,
there's a moment of total panic of like when when
you finish a job, or it's like what now? And
I almost think that's part of some people don't finish
projects because they're so well consuming the fear of the
(28:24):
silence afterwards, or that what are you going to come
up with next? Yeah, that's interesting? Is that is that work?
Have you got better with that? Or is it worse now?
You think? I just make sure there's never any gap.
That just makes sure there's poor things happening at worse
so at one point they'll never ever ever be the silence,
perfectly healthy sentence. No need to look into that any deeper.
(28:45):
Thank you. That's exactly why I tell my therapist, I said,
we should finish there. What is the best action you're
an action guy? Quite actually you run what's the best
action film you've ever seen? I would say anyone who's
ever seen me run. I mean, if someone ran like
me in an action film, the studio would shut this
(29:07):
ship down in a day. Why have you met that
newborn draft star in the new Born Identity? You run
very nicely, You're very good runner. Basically, yes, thank you.
The best action film. Yeah, and I do think you know,
art is about opinion, but this one there is there
is no opinion. Yeah, it is one of the most
(29:29):
recent three mission impossibles. They are the best ones. And
I think if you don't think that, it's between you
and me, yea, no one else needs to know this,
but you can tell anyone you want this If you
don't think that, my lads to swear. Yeah, okay, you're
a fucking dickhead. If you don't wow, Wow. Did anyone
(29:50):
hear that? Jesus, But that's between that's between you and me,
so no one but anyone can hear that. Yeah. I
think they're just I think there's no I think they're
so good. I think they I think Tom Cruise is
found in Christopher Macquarie. I guess in particular, they're like
the perfect they're the de Niro evac. I think it's like, Yeah,
(30:16):
I think I think they're I can't pick between them.
I think i'd probably pick Ghost Protocol if pushed, because
it has the vergicalif a bit that When I first
watched that, I thought my I thought my toenails were
going to come off because it was so entertaining. Is
that the top the biggest building in the little bit? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's very good. That one. I love it. I mean,
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they're great, aren't they. I really love them, and I
agree with you and I do love you know. I
love stants, and they had they do real stunts in them,
and I let the Tom CUIs does stunts and there's
not a lot of CDI going. Um, they're very well choreographed,
directed action. It's great. You're not entirely run exactly mad
(30:56):
Max Fury right neh wow, come on dah dah, it's
your episode. I'm not going to tell anyone, and I
don't care, no, I do. I do. You know you're
a fucking dickhead, but like that's fine, that's so fine.
Brett's think about you is you're sort of inclusive. It's
(31:20):
you'll know a fucking dickhead, but you's and that's okay,
that's fine. I still hang out with him. I think
Tom Cruise is one of those guys that we will
miss when he's we will miss when he's gone. I
think he is there will never be another one. There's
there's never going to be another one. He's a truly
great movie star, and he knows that to make movies.
(31:41):
Yeah great, I even saw The Mummy. That's how all
that I'm in on him? Yeah, what happened then? I
think I don't want to think about it. Push it
deep down. Something happened there. I don't know what it
was anyway, of all the films, of all of them,
(32:03):
if you had to, which film do you think you
could have made? And way? This is the best question.
I think, Thank you. A lot of people really resisted
to this when they have too many Like what do
you mean? You get it? Push? You get it? It don't.
I want to say I get it, but like I
think it's it's almost it's too open ended. If I
had some alone's got a gun up to your head,
(32:23):
the boom is if I made a film, If I
actually made a film, it would be like the room
that it would just be so amateurisian ship. The crew
would be so unmotivated. I'd totally lose. I'd lose the
crew in the first day. I'd profile in loads of
sex scenes for myself. But in terms of if I well,
thank you, I think in terms of what I would
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make or something of that, I think it is The Producers.
I think i'd make a film like The Producers. I
think everything I sort of love, I think things I
write and sort of feelings that I try and emote
in stuff I write. I think you see that in
The Producers. I think it's a great, great comedy. Yeah,
(33:09):
I think it's I think it's it's it's it's everything.
I think. I think it's it's so brilliant, and I
think it really holds up and it's so entertaining, and yeah,
I love it. What a surprising and excellent answer. Okay,
why how is that surprised? I don't know. I think
I thought you'd go I don't know if you put
kinds of meds and said, what do you think films?
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I thought you didn't picked like a drama, and I
didn't know you love The Producers and I love The Producers.
It's amazing. I really love it. I think it's weirdly underrated,
which is strange given it to the most acclaimed comedy ever.
But I think actually know what you mean because it's
because it is. It is like audacious and like provocative
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and silly and and really funny. But I think it
I think it's got like a huge heart. Yeah, it's
about like two people who are quite lost finding each
other and sort of sparing each other on. It's quite
sweet in a in a weird way. It's like it's
like it's like mel Brooks. It's sort of naughty and chigui,
but it's lovely and yeah, yeah, it's really um, it's stirring.
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I find it quite stirring because it's about show business
and it's you know, and I'm a sucker for that.
I mean, there's a few of my choices have got
that sort of thing. I think it's I really love it.
I really really love it. I like that. I like that. Okay,
what excellent answer? What film have you pretended to like
to impress people? The producers really worked, you really went
(34:43):
up in masturbasons good? I don't. I don't have one
for this. I think the problem is I've got there's
so many films that I've not seen that I've pretended
to see so I guess it's probably the same as
it's probably be one of those. And that's one of
the questions. Yeah, you you you're an honest guy. I
think you'd like telling someone I don't like that film
(35:04):
that you like. Yeah, And but also I think my
standards are quite low, and it takes a lot for
me to not like something. I'm one of the worst
people to ask like tips for because I really, especially
if I'm seeing a show or if I'm seeing a film,
you have to go a long way for me to
really be against it. So yeah, I sort of like
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most films, or at least I go, oh, they got
it back. I watched The Eddie Murphy Company Meet Dave
Right a few weeks ago when I was hungover. That
is one of the most critically mauled films of recent years.
I thought, this is fine, there's no problem here. Eddie
Murphy's a spaceship being driven by Eddie Murphy. What this is? Yeah?
(35:50):
It is a wonderful ben himself. Aren't we all have
any questions? Thank you? Film? Have you never seen that?
You think it's mad? You've never seen it? I mean
there's so many isn't there? And this is this is
linked to the last one. M I had to pick one. Well,
(36:13):
actually it's not even one. I've basically never seen any
Stanley Kubrick film. I don't say that is mad? What
is the film you love that you don't expect anyone
else to lack? In Wanka n ever since you fucking
went to Hollywood. You were so nice when you used
to live in South London with me out on the corner,
(36:35):
sharing sharing Coca Cola. We used to share a counter
puff and talk about what it's going to be like
we make it to California, and I said, I'm gonna
write a question. It's going to make me laugh every
single time I do it. One day, I'm gonna ask everyone,
what's the film you think it's mad? They never seen it.
Then they're gonna ask it, say that is mad, and
(36:55):
I'm going to move on. The best thing about this
a listener should know is Brett in La I've been
I'm recording this at almost six o'clock at night on
a Friday. Brett, it's like what you've just woken up basically,
and the first thing you've done it's just cuss me, like,
mug me off. Yeah, what a day? Ready for the
(37:16):
Day looked like a plum? What is the film you
love that you don't expect anyone else to? Like? A
lot of people do like this film, but I think
they're people who are exactly like me. Okay, and this
film is basket ball? Love do you do? You love
(37:38):
basic Ball? I do love basketball. The people who make
it made it hate it. They and I don't know
if it's something that you just have to have been
there like I was, you know, it was like a
perfect teenager. Yeah, you were off it. They descended, They
just say it. I think they act like it's a
really crap film, But I was like, I don't think
(37:59):
it's really funny, like it's really it's just like a
dumb like it's you know, it's a bit purehile. But
I think there's a load of gags in it, and
there's more hits than Missus. I really, I mean, I
like it. It's definitely It's always going to have a
place in my heart. It's like a big teenage film
for me. And we still watch it at parties a lot.
I love them. I wonder if it's you know, I
(38:21):
haven't seen it in many years. I wonder if it
would be man way together when you watch it now.
But definitely, oh we loved Yeah, it's great. It's just
a big it's just a dumb film about some made
up sport. What's wrong that funny? There's some funny shitting
it really funny shit in it. But I think it is.
I think there's a very narrow band of people. Yeah,
(38:44):
you had to have been there. You had to have
been there to really enjoy it. What's the film you
would show a lover as a test to see if
you should be together? Did you? Did you do this
test with your wife? I think I did. Yes, I've
done this test. I've done this test with a few
people love it and everyone has passed. This is the
(39:11):
film that is I could have answered for so many
of them. It is Broadway Danny Rose. Wow, it is
the most romantic film as well. Probably it's full of
surprises today and what I don't know. Listen, when you
were last on the show, you spent forty five minutes
talking about money boot and this thing was taken my
(39:33):
life by the way that I'm still getting tweaks about
that and this and today You've got so many show busy,
show busy, lovely warm, lovely, big hearted films. It's interesting. Yeah.
I think I've I've I've you know, softened up in
my old age moment you fall in love and that
was fun. Broadway Danny Rose, I think is like, it's
so wonderful and I think it is a good thing
(39:55):
to show because I feel like there's a lot of
myself in that because it's about kind of small time
show business, and I just I think it's a wonderful film.
Broadway Danny Rose and Woody Allen is is whatever he is.
You know, he's not perfect, he has I think, look, look,
(40:19):
is he a sexual deviant? Yes? Is he a hack? Yes,
but let's put that to one side. He had a
great run, and I'm not ready. I think that's the
point where we stop. We go, okay, yeah, we dismiss him,
but not to the point where we can't enjoy. I
think Broadway Danny Roses like it's magnificent and it's sweet,
and it's the cinematography is amazing and the music is amazing.
(40:43):
It feels like it's like a tribute and like a
love letter to being in show business. Yeah, but I
know that you need to be in show business to
enjoy it. I think it's a I think it's wonderful
that film. I think it's his best one. I think
it's probably his best one. You were lovely today, Thanks
man glad. One of us is speaking speaking of making
(41:04):
you uncomfortable? What's the film that made youzed uncomfortable? Right?
This one? This one's a weird one. I saw this
film right in the cinema a couple of years ago
from my system. We'd heard it was great, and I
didn't know much about it. She was like, no, the
reviews are amazing. It's this film called the Souvenir, one
(41:27):
most critically acclaimed films of the it was a decade. Yeah.
And the film starts right, and there's this there's like
a house party in London, and you've got all these dynamic,
vibrant people and they're all like having chat. They were
young people. They're having passionate chats about being young and
about the world, about figuring things out, and it sort
(41:47):
of pans through all of them and it focuses on
this one girl. And I didn't know who. I didn't
didn't know who was in the film. Ward it was
about and the girl. And then I realized, oh, she's
the main character, and I thought, shame that we're in
this room at full of really cool, dynamic young people
and the lead character of this fucking film is literally
(42:08):
a boring person in the room. But literally the most
boring fucking person sits there wet, blanket, nothing, and then
the film is about her, and apparently it's it's about
the director. Yeah, right, it's about the director. But then
they never introduced this character, they never nothing happens in
(42:30):
this film, but the critics. The thing that made me
uncomfortable was the critical notice of this film got what
I'm saying, this is the greatest, most relatable story of
a doomed relationship. I thought, what the fuck? It made
me uncomfortable because I thought, I'm probably not expressing this
that well. I thought every single character in that film
(42:51):
was flamboyantly wealthy, and none of it was justified or introduced.
And what made me uncomfortable was knowing that every film
critic in Britain was like, what a relatable film? I thought, well,
I guess in that case the media are liars. I
mean is that was that the point of the film
was to make me doubt the media, because I was like,
(43:14):
it's all just posh people telling people. These posh people
are what you're like, it's a tough watch. I can't
like what I think. None of the characters do anything,
No one reacts to anything. One of the they're blokeing.
It's like, oh he's a heroin addict. Well you never
see any of it doesn't mean you may as all
said he's in clown college, like it doesn't really happens.
(43:38):
And everyone's like, he's such a good actor, and I
was like, is he a good actor or does he
just have a fucking scar on his face? Like I
think it's true. I think the whole film is a
fucking con. It sickens me that film. And she's made
a sequel. What happens in the sequel? Nothing? And then
there's another one coming, There's it's trilogy. It's like Lord
of the Rings. It's like Lord of the Rings. There
(44:00):
was no Hobbits or Ring or Gollum. And they lived
in London and they didn't go anywhere. It made me uncomfortable,
like how a film like that could ever be. I
don't know. What I will say is I'm wary whenever
I see a film getting five stars by all the critics.
And it's like, I know that film is going to
(44:22):
be really really slow. M I thing as I can
deal would slow. I like, my ideal film is just
like Steve Bruschevy and a room coughing for an hour
and a half. I don't need stuff to happen. But this,
this was I was like insulted as an audience member
that you would I don't know, I'd probably sound like
(44:43):
an idiot, probably got what an uncultural dodol. But I thought,
I just thought. I thought it was so weak. I
find it difficult to watch. Plus people, none of the
characters were introduced, like none of them. She wasn't introduced,
she never showed any I never got a sense of
who she was or what their relationship was, which is
bad storytelling. I mean, that's just bad. And I guess
(45:07):
if you're an everyman trope or like an every you know,
a common person, the audience can fill in the blanks themselves.
I thought there is such a divide here between yeah,
and also, if you're going to make a film about
a doomed romance between an old heroin addict and a
young film student, why don't you make something happen? Why
(45:31):
don't you just make something happen. Why don't you have
a conversation, like he says, you have a heroin addict
and then she just doesn't react. It mayst have been
like or something like, and they just all repress plus
people so they don't react. But you know that makes
it makes for great romantic scenes where no one Also,
(45:53):
someone said to me, apparently the woman who's in it,
I got nothing took by the way, it's clear I
got nothing these people personally, but everyone involved in this
is a fucking dish, continuing me. No, of course not.
But she was, She's never acted before. She was just yeah,
(46:17):
so what what are we doing here? Guys? What are
we doing here? What's what are we doing here? Though?
What are we doing? Tilda Swinton's daughter plays plays the
director in and the director goes, yeah, we've even recreated
(46:37):
my old flat. M what you do? I don't know
what we're doing here. It's not no, it's not coach protocol,
it's not even Rush hour three, it's not close to
i'd agree with Yeah. Sorry, I probably not. I probably
should have been more articulate there. No, I think there's
(46:59):
something I think at the core of society's problems. Baked
into that film, and I probably haven't pierced it enough,
but it's not good enough. And I think when I
am the King, that film will be the first to
be deleted in a Starlard esque purge. You get my vote,
(47:20):
but as king you don't need it, so good luck.
If you could show a child one film, what would
it be, muess the souvenir, I'd be like, this is
what the world is, this is what we're up against.
I would show them a film that I loved as
a child. I probably was too young to watch, but
(47:43):
I adored it called Pleasantville. So really great entertaining film. Yeah,
and it's about tolerance and open mindedness and the dangers
of closing yourself off and the dangers of having yeah
(48:03):
I have a small worldview, and oppression and it's very entertaining.
There's a scene where the mum fingers herself in a bath.
I had no idea what she was doing until I
was about twenty one and I went, that's what I thought.
She was just having a really fun bath. Yeah yeah, yeah,
but um, I think it's a really great um. It's
sort of like a it's almost like a fairy tale
(48:25):
and sort of how it's told, and it feels like
it's it's very moral when the kids need to watch
stuff with morals, don't they Yeah, because I don't think them.
I don't think the unboxing videos have got much morals,
so I think so. I think people are unboxing the
stuff for the kids on YouTube and saying stuff like
you know, don't don't hate, don't hate. Eastern Europeans were
(48:45):
all the same anyway inside this box. Yeah, good one. Yeah,
I love love it. It means a lot to be
It's very special to me. That film. Yeah, I saw
it with my It was the surprise film at the
(49:06):
London Film Festival. Me and my dad went years and
years ago, and I'd seen the trailer and the trailer
looked stupid. I was like, this film looks stupid and
they don't tell you when it's a surprise film. It
just started and it's a pleasant film. Pleasant. When I
turned I don't even know what's this and I was like,
I don't know, thinking it will be shit. And we
loved it so much and we talked about it all
the way. We talked about it all the next day.
(49:28):
It's very special to me. It's beautiful, brilliant, Yeah, that's
really good to hear. I think it's I think it
is a special film in general, and it's sort of
it's weird that it. I guess it was a hit,
wasn't it? Like people know it, people know I don't know.
It always massive, but it's it's really deep. And there's
the bit where basically, if you haven't seen the film,
(49:48):
it's simple black and white and when people kind of
have an emotional breakthrough, they turned into color. And Toby
McGuire keeps there's a scene where where he I don't
want to spoil it, but where he thinks he's going
to have his breakthrough and he wakes up in the
money and he's still black and why because that's not
his journey. It's very moving. Yeah, it's really it's really um,
(50:08):
it's really moving, I think, and very very funny to
film that it starts off good and it gets better
and better, which is all you can ever ask for it.
So that's what I would show. I would show a
little kid that you watch this, you watch this, ship,
you watch this, and then you get out, push this
(50:28):
and get out. I don't don't tell you mom that
I abducted. You ll show you Pleasantville. It's funnestly, it's
been good, but she's not gonna understand that. It's going
to look weird if you if you tell this to
the police. This is between us and I don't care,
but I've abducted you because I want you to learn
some morals because of all those fucking handboxing videos. Watch
Pleasantville and I will take you home. Sean McLoughlin, you
(50:54):
have been wonderful. I'm so glad I brought you back
to life. You've been so good. In fact, I'm gonna
let you, but before you go, what film would you
like to leave in your will? The fuck you to?
What film would I like to leave in my world?
(51:14):
Is it one of the ones I have to mention
I've already mentioned? Or can it be any film? It
can be anything. What film would I leave in my will? Yeah?
One film you'd lead behind people to Shanghai noon lovely,
really lovely. Sean mcguffin, I don't mind. This is between
us and I don't care who he is it. You've
(51:34):
been magnificent. I really loved this. Thank you so much.
I've enjoyed it so much that I might come up
with any way to kill you. So I can have
you beg Yeah, I really I really like you. Oh
thanks man, it's been a real treat and between you
and me, thanks for your fucking dick edge. Is there
(51:55):
anything you want to tell people to look out for you?
You're touring gigging tour this year across the UK and
Europe and potentially the rest of the world. Uh, go
on my website to buy tickets please. It's going to
be an hour and a half of a stand up
from me and it's going to be Um, it's gonna
(52:15):
be good, I think, magnificent. It should be good. The
European dates I think are coming at the end of January,
so yes, it can so be it. It's as yes,
I mean, it's just that you have to call it
something that. Yeah, you're doing stand up again. You're doing gigs.
(52:36):
You're only doing gigs in America? Are you doing them
here as well? I'm back see I'll be doing them
in the in the Englands too. That would be fun,
wouldn't it. Yeah, maybe we're having together. That'd be good.
That would be really good. All right, thank you for
your time, have a wonderful day. Complexit God bless you.
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So that was episode one hundred and eighty one. Head
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Okayl it's only films to be Buried with the Resurrection. Hello,
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My name is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian and actor,
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As Stephen Maraboli once said, letting go means to come
to the realization some people are a part of your history,
but not a part of your destiny. And the film
and net is a wild, wild ride definitely worth getting on. Wow. Yeah,
(00:41):
Steve Mariboli, I concur well done. Sound good point. Every
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not this week. This week I use my newly acquired
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McLoughlin is one of the great stand ups in the UK.
I'm a huge fan of him as a comic and
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hope you love it. He's brilliant. I think you're gonna
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I very much hope you enjoy Episode one hundred and
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bye bye bye bye bye bye bye, hello, and come
do Films to be Buried with the Resurrection. It is
I Brett Goldstein and I am enjoined today by a writer,
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an actor, a stand up comedian, and many many specials
released now man you can see all of his specials
on the YouTube's I Believe and they're all fantastic And
the last one is one of the great specials of
all time. He's a husband, he's a lover, he's a peacemaker,
and he is also someone who masturbates heavily. Please welcome
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to the show. He's coming back. He's one of the
all time great apps, one of my favorite people. I
can't believe he's come back, even after all we've been
put together. Here he is. He's finally here. Can't you
believe it. Please welcome back to the show. It's the
brilliant it's mister, thank you, thank you. That introduction really did, really,
really did plumb the depth, didn't it. Brett. Yeah. The
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thing is I wanted the interaction to be loved because
I think you deserve it. And I ran out of
actual jobs, even though I'm sure more, but I don't need.
I don't need all the job. That's the thing. I've
listened to a few of these. I'm a big fan
of the show. Not all the time, you know in
it out, Yeah, only the big boys. You talked a
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lot of I suppose what they called sort of Polly maths,
people who are multi hyphenits. Yes, and it's fine that
I'm not one of those. You're pretty mud You've got
three I've got three, but you did about seven. There, husband,
I can't as a as a gig. Well, it's a yeah,
I mean it's not like it's not like, oh like
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you went on Jimmy Kimmel, didn't you because you were
You're on a big TV show. Sure they're not going
next up we have someone's husband. Yeah, but according to
eighties comedians, that's a job. Yeah, there's a job. It's
a slug. What could I say. Yeah, hardest job in
the world, lugging this ball and shade around. Ain't seen
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your ages. I love you. I don't mind saying it.
That was It's good to have you back. When did
we last see each other? I saw you. I was
thinking this three times during the pandemic when you were
living very close to me, and now you're in La
you're in the City of Angels. Yes, I saw you.
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I think I saw you preted lasso and posted lasso
and it was great seeing both of those things, and
that I think there was one rogue meeting when we
were both running through the same park. Yeah, you looked
like a like a man in like an Adidas advert
like you were. Everything was perfect, and I was like
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a scarecrow who had been enchanted and was running away
from a wizard, and I was so ashamed to even
be next to you. That is not true. You look
as I tell you what this is? How much I
love you is. I was trying to break a p
B and was run be run. I was trying to
beat my own PB. I saw you. There was a
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split second where I was like, am I going to
stop and ruined this? Run? Yes? I have because I
love that man. That's really good to know. Did you
what have you since broken that PB? Well, that that
day's POB was a little about four hours because of you,
four hours for one mile. So I'm not sure that
was it. I thing I like about you, Brett is
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you don't you don't hold a grudge. So yeah, we
used to live very near to having that like that.
And once we met up for a coffee in a
place and they put us in chairs that were so
low and grand. We lit that sort of fat Henry
the eighth, Yeah, I remember that we looked heavy the
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eighths fat now would be very smelt. Should have seen us.
Just give us a quick update on your life since
we us saw you still married, that's still going on.
When was I last on the shop. I think I
think I wasn't married when I was on the show. No,
I can't believe I must have been married married to
the Well I'm now what. I'm still married, but it's
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to a different woman that was my first wife. She
died tragically or comically. Uh depends, I mean, or isn't
all death? Both tragic had comic she um she fell
over and hit her buttox so hard that she had
died of shame. Well, yeah, I remembered the funeral a
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very wide coffin. Um. See, you married your a new
work you you recently went on holiday. I only know
this because they follow your wife on Instagram and didn't I.
And sounds like you've got up to a couple of
comic mishaps. Tell us about them. Sure, that was like
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like Jay Leno in his pub tell me about a
funny anecdote in your recent life. Please tell me a
funny anecdote of my research to read. No, it was fine.
We went to I've been doing a lot of work.
I feel very lucky since we're you know, in the
last six months we were able to do gigs again,
and I said yes to everything, as I think, I
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think you're in the same boat, and the things you
say yes to everything, and I sort of think, well,
half of them won't happen. But the problem is when
they all happen, you're absolutely fucked. Yes, and I'm very grateful,
but we hadn't had much time together, and my wife
booked desperately cheap flights to Sicily and Italy because I
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think people I think people don't know this, maybe in
other countries, because I assume we have a lot of
North Americans and the like listening to this. You can
fly from the UK to like other countries for so cheap.
Like our flight back from Sicily was five pounds each
Jesus Christ, which is so cheap. It's mad that you
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can fly all over Europe for cheaper than it takes
to get a train to Manchester. Yeah, that's what I got,
climate change. It's the fucking train companies. Yeah. Um, but
it was fine. I mean, the thing is, you know,
you go on a holiday and I don't about you.
I was like, oh, we've got to relax a bit.
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How long does it taste to relax? And there was
no relaxation because we broke the law one second after
Bandish you meant to take an arrival test when you
get into Italy. But we just left the airport and
then I went in. I went in basically to have diarrhea.
I have to go back and have diarrhea. And in
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the airport and as I was there, there was a say,
anyone's just to ride in England has to take a
COVID test immediately. And I had to run out and
get my wife and go. We have to get a
COVID test. Got it. They went to get a rental car.
I mean, we've got I don't drive big cars. We
were given this mega car that exploded basically as soon
as I turned on the engine like a genuine and
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I was driving it down the street a bit and
that I had to take it back and then we
got given another one and we went into but we
got given a Renault Cleo, which is exactly my ball pass.
It's my speed. It's at one point six, it's it's teeny.
It's barely a car. You're very tall, you look sort
of like you have to open the cent rove to
get in. It's a it's a comical car for I
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would describe as a comical man. And the problem with
it is the people of Sicily, and I love Italy,
but they sort of view all roadsides and traffic lights
as sort of advisory. And so that car was absolutely
fucked by Dave. Like it was fun, but we was.
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I was saying to my wife, if they honestly they
won't take this car back, like they'll say, this is
your car, now, you have to just buy it off.
We drove back from Catania. We know, we drove through Catania,
which is this really amazing city, but it is like
it's rough round the edges. Got a flat tire. I
called up an Italian man to come and fix it.
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It turns up with the biggest toe truck you've ever seen.
I was having lunch with my wife. I saw the
toe truck. I went, I'll just go see him change
the tire and then I'll come back to you. And
then one minute later I was in his tow truck
being driven to the outskirts of towns. So because he
says I cannot do it here sat or spatch or Spatch,
and my wife goes, where are you, I go, I'm
in the tow truck that is driving past you right now.
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I mean, the whole thing was very Um, I guess
it was an adventure. I think it took me too
long into the trip to realize we were having an
adventure and not a holiday. And that's the difference. Both
of them are great, but I think I wanted a holiday,
you know, I wanted a film like The Holiday, Yeah,
and instead I got like National Lampoon's Vacation. Instead, you've
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got the end of the Holiday running through the snow
in higher heels. Yeah, that's why I got. Yeah. Also,
what I did like, just from your worst of the
stories was well, you had vanished. I was sort of
following the story of this through her stories. She had
a nice cocktail and a lunch and just seems to
sort of She at one point said, I don't know
where my husband is, has just been driven off in
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a track and may never see him again. But yeah, yeah, yeah,
it was. It was a real weird win for her.
I think I think a bit of time alone and
husband potentially killed. I mean, really, the thing with Sicily,
as well as it is, the whole island feels like
a gangster film. You know, it's where the Matthew kind
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of were born. And and I'm not if I was
a location scout for a film, and I wanted to
find somewhere where you would kill a tourist and definitely
get away with it. It is the abandoned railway station
where this mechanic drove me to as you put on
a spare tire that was genuinely also flats like glad, Glad,
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that sounds like wonderful adventure. It was okay, Jordan McLoughlin,
you have been resurrected. You have been brought back to
life because I like you so much. However, what points
in your life would you like to be brought back to?
Any regrets you'd like to change? Or will you return
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to now designe or I'll kill you again. I listened
to a couple of episodes of this by the way,
just because you ask people to you always go. You
begged the guests to listen to it, presumably to boost
the numbers. And at the end of the legs is
like and subscribe, and I have to say, I don't
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think like you go. You're going in two footed on me,
like I know that you do this to the other guests.
You don't threaten I can kill all the other guests again.
This is the first time I've threatened to kill this
early in this show, a man who's already deceased. I'll
go back. I wouldn't go back anywhere, I guess. I'm
just I'm happy where I am. Come back to now
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wouldn't change ending. I scored a goal when I was
fifteen in Sunday League football. Yeah, that I do think
was probably the high point in my life. So maybe
i'd go back to like fifteen seconds before I scored
that goal. Oh wow, I scored a header from outside
the area that equalized the game, and it was Yeah,
it was really good. Here's my concern with that. I
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get it. I totally get it, and I'd love to
relive that moment with you. But fifteen seconds you're bang,
You're in it. Maybe in the hesitation of like oh god, ohma,
you missed the shot, I'd go like one second as
you already started to jump, Yeah, then you're in bang. Yeah,
I mean that's that's true. Who knows what sort of
butterfly effects, you know, if I hadn't scored that then yeah,
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like maybe i'd miss it and yeah, I mean yeah,
and something terrible could happen, like Trump wouldn't win, or
but going back to fifteen seconds, which is what you're
doing because you've chosen that. So I just hope you
ready for that book. You then got to live everything
else up to now. How do you feel about going
through all that stuff forget? Yeah, I've just said that's
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that's the problem. The next fifteen years would be a drag.
I'll just go I'll go back now, I'll be Now
that was good. I'm fine. Yeah, yeah, I'm okay. I'm amazed.
But almost no one has gone back too earlier than now,
which tells you something about the sort of guests I
have one. They're around quite content or fairness, imagination, really
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fascinated to know by the end of this, which Colin
maist all under. But I think I think you should start.
But the thing is you you get very good, high
octane guests who have done a lot of good things
in their life. I would just I would say, I'm
probably the least successful guest you've ever had on this show. Okay,
who is I'm not going to name them. I think
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if you if you sort of if you were to
just go outside and just get someone off the street
and go right, you're on my podcast, they'll be like
I would have gone back before I cut my leg off.
That's true. If you had your leg that, I can
see you wanting to go back. I mean, you wouldn't
go back, would you. You wouldn't go back. Sometimes I
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think if I could going back to my twenties with
the stuff I know now. You know, it's not that
I don't know where I am, but maybe I could
have got it quicker, you know what I mean? Yeah,
and also made a bit more of I felt there
were probably years that I wasted by being too sort
of shy or worried about it. I could have really
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cleaned up. I think you would. I think you would
just end up up in a different way. M I
think that's usually how it goes. Don't you? Thank you
for believing in me? Now hostility to this episode, welcome
back to life. We've missed you, but the living. Also,
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I want to talk about films with you. Can you imagine?
First thing I want to know is what was the
last film you saw? Sure mcduffin. The last film I
saw was a really good film, which is lasy for this.
It was the Grand Budapest Hotel, Grand Budapest Hotel. Where's Henderson?
You've heard of it, right, Yeah, that's nice. I think
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it's a really good film. I think it's really fun
and funny, and yeah, it's just a great jaunt, isn't
it it is? I love Ray Finds in it. I
think he's very very funny. I think he's very good,
good comic performer. Yeah, I think it's I like Wes
Anderson the most when he's not sort of crowbarring in
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a lot of sort of saccerin. I do like his
other stuff, but this one, I feel like he he
really goes for the juggular all out in terms of
making like a crowd pleaser. Like it's a pure it's
almost a pure blockbuster, and I really like that. Yeah,
it's great. Yeah, it's got some secret datness. I quite
like the secret dabtoness in it that it brings in
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towards the end. I like that. Yeah. Okay, thank you, well,
thank you sul mcglfin. Who do you think should play
you in the film of your Life? I mean, I
bet you've got a good book of this. The answer
I've got come up with is Jeremy Irons. I love
it because I sort of, first of all, I don't
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know who is funding this film about my life, but
I don't know what sort of Disney the Disney corporate
film they're putting it. John Lasseter's on executing it. He's
executing it peaked up, writing and directing. It's going to
be very powerful. Well yes, I think it is going
to be powerful. But it must be based on something
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I do when I'm older. I've done nothing of that less.
It's about what I was fifteen and I scored a
goal against Seaford Football Club. It's called well, when I
was fifteen, I looked like Jeremy Irons does now, so
this is perfect. I like Jeremy Irons. I've watched two
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things with him recently and I think, oh, he's bloody good,
isn't he He's bloody good, so I just thought I
put him in. I also thinks he's a class older man,
and like physically, I think if I can look like
that when I'm older, then I've done well. I'm hoping
of it. One of those guys who physically looked peaks
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at like sixty five, I can see that you do
look like MESSI end ions Messy Irons. I can see that.
One of things I watched a bim when he was
in The Watchman TV, which is very good. I thought,
very smart, rewarding, wonderful. I don't know how they What
does he make of that? What does he make it?
What does he get? They go, you're playing like this,
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You're playing like an old superhero who's got a bunch
of clones. That fuck and you're naked for a lot
of it. Right, okay, right, all right? Yeah? Did he
know what was going on? That's a really good question.
I don't know. I mean, I guess it's I guess
he does. It seems like he's quite um. I think
he's with it, isn't he? I think I don't want
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to I don't want to miss but I think he
said he's one of the ones that he did say
some some, don't you see. I think he's definitely definitely
getting the job now in my film is coming Back.
I was going to get all the canceled performers the
star of my biopic, Lovely Choice. You're a romantic man.
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I think you're very romantic. Romantic. What's the most romantic
film you've never seen? I've chosen for this one. Palm Springs.
It's so good, Palm Springs. I'm so glad you said that.
I adored it when I watched it. It's fucking great
and I feel like it was maybe it was a
sign of when it was released, because that it kind
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of didn't get as much as it could have got. Yeah,
I thought it was so brilliant. I think it's so lovely.
It's like a great, great romantic comedy. And I watched it.
It was during the pandemic. It came out at least
in the UK, and I thought it was it was
like one of the best things I saw all the
last year. Probably it's so good and really romantic in
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a way that's sort of quite understated, and I don't know,
it's tremendous. And it's also it's only ninety minutes, Like
there's not an app there's not an ounce of fat
on that film. Yes, please, Yeah, it's it's and it
stays smart and so many ideas. Yeah, it's the romantic
comedy of Do you ever see the Platform on Netflix? Yeah?
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I did that, the Spanish one. Yeah, I was so
impressed by how many every five minutes they had a
new idea every five minutes. I agree with that about
well both of them, but with Palm Springs it's like
the plot twists, but it's all through dialogue. It's all
character reveals. None of it's gratuitous or kind of out
of nowhere. Yeah, I think it's what I'm just wonderful.
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I think it's a great film about what I like
about it, and I think it's what rom coms don't
do as well as they should. It's about two fun
people having fun and falling in love is really fun,
and I think most romantic films sort of forget that.
It's really fun, isn't it. Falling in love is really
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fun is the sense as no one says, but it is.
That's why people do it. I think it's got to
be fun, isn't it. And that's why I think you
can You can see the two actors and they're I'm
not even like, you know, I don't know that much
about them. I thought they were perfect. Yeah, that's a
really nice thing. And yeah, fully in love is fun,
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and it's usually portrayed is dramatic and hard. Yeah, but
the thing is I think it does it does get
into that later on, because then it becomes about what,
you know, what happens when you're in this thing and
it's just between you and me, Brett, I think it's
at least as good as Groundhome Day, and I don't.
I don't give a fuck who knows that hangling. There's
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very mixed messages, firstly between you and me, between you
and me, and then you said, I don't get who knows?
What do you want me to do with this information?
Between you, me and the skywriter I've hired. Yeah, yeah,
I think Palm Springs is as good as, if not
better than, Groundhome Day. Okay. I want you to know
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that I'm actually a very good secret keeper and that
will make sure that Okay, okay, do you know do
you know a podcast host that is bad at keeping secrets?
Because you need to get me booked on that ship.
That's what I should have said when you were to
tell me a funny I don't note about your life.
I think, Bobs. Yeah, it's yeah, very very good. Sure.
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What is the best film you ever saw that you
never want to see again? This one's easy for me,
so Necticky New York, you piece of sh Why because
you need to see it at least three times? Now?
You don't. I'm not I'm not having that. What do
I need to see it for? Because this layers upon layers. Yeah,
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I don't think. I know, because I think it is.
I think it's brilliant. I think it's magnificent. I think
it's a total work of art. But I watched it
when it was on some TV channel. I think, got
a film four at eleven pm. I thought, Charlie Coffman,
check it out. And it's really long, and it's it's
so it's just too much. It makes me feel too much.
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And I did remember it ends because it ends. It
ended like two in the morning. I'm sat there totally
alone watching it. The final word is like the emotional
crescendo of the film, and I just I don't think
I slept about three days. I still think about that
film all the time. Okay, what fair enough? There's only
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so much I can feel. And I think that that
film like pushed me beyond my limits, which means it's
really successful. I guess. I do think it's a great film.
Like Roger Ebert that we've talked about before, he said
it was the best film of that decade. He's right,
do you think so? I think it's it's like it's
really really, really special. Yeah, I mean Rush Hour three.
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I think is from the decade, but New York was
also very good. It's really it's really as good as
I don't care who knows this, but I think it's
as good a same themes. Um, do you see Selective
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New York three times or more? Maybe? For I think
I three times? And look, it's not a film I've
almost like every day like I need gaps. You know,
it's not it's a it's a it's not an easy
it's not an easy fantastic. It's not that fully enough.
I think if they edited out all the scenes of
him at the dentist, then maybe I could if there
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was like a you know, you have a director's cut
and it's usually longer, there should be like a like
a whimps cut going to be a whimps cut where
you cut out because I thought there's so there's almost
too many ideas, you know, it's like, yeah, I don't
even know the themes are. So it's sort of about everything.
It is about everything. But the thing I take from
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it that for a film that is about and I
think it's very relatable. And maybe I've talked about this before,
but he's a man obsessed with death and illness and worrying.
He's so worried about everything. He's pleasantly worrying, and yet
he outlives everyone. He's that he has all this love
around him. It's quite movie like. He's around black people
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who love and endore him, and he keeps sort of
missing it. He's in it, but he can't. He's so
analyzing it all the time and overthinking it that he's
missing living as a creative. Yes, do you find that
that hits harder? Do you? Because I think it is
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a film about creativity. I don't think it's an accident
that it's a film about a guy trying to make
a work of art. Yeah. I think it is about
what the toll that that can take on certain people. Yeah,
I definitely. And I think the whole idea of never
finished it is never finished. It's never you know, he's
making this play for like seventeen years and it just
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keeps going. It's not ready yet, it's not ready yet.
I understand that feeling, and I also understand the feeling
of the fear of when it is finished, because then
what do you do? Like it's so you're creative endeavors.
I don't know if we're will be serious with me,
between you and me, and don't tell anyone. But I
don't get Is this when I'm making something or doing
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something gig or anything or new material? Yeah, it's the
happiest that it's where I feel most fulfilled. It's like,
this is what men to be doing. And when it's done,
there's a moment of total panic of like when when
you finish a job, or it's like what now? And
I almost think that's part of some people don't finish
projects because they're so well consuming the fear of the
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silence afterwards, or that what are you going to come
up with next? Yeah, that's interesting? Is that is that work?
Have you got better with that? Or is it worse now?
You think? I just make sure there's never any gap.
That just makes sure there's poor things happening at worse
so at one point they'll never ever ever be the silence,
perfectly healthy sentence. No need to look into that any deeper.
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Thank you. That's exactly why I tell my therapist, I said,
we should finish there. What is the best action you're
an action guy? Quite actually you run what's the best
action film you've ever seen? I would say anyone who's
ever seen me run. I mean, if someone ran like
me in an action film, the studio would shut this
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ship down in a day. Why have you met that
newborn draft star in the new Born Identity? You run
very nicely, You're very good runner. Basically, yes, thank you.
The best action film. Yeah, and I do think you know,
art is about opinion, but this one there is there
is no opinion. Yeah, it is one of the most
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recent three mission impossibles. They are the best ones. And
I think if you don't think that, it's between you
and me, yea, no one else needs to know this,
but you can tell anyone you want this If you
don't think that, my lads to swear. Yeah, okay, you're
a fucking dickhead. If you don't wow, Wow. Did anyone
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hear that? Jesus, But that's between that's between you and me,
so no one but anyone can hear that. Yeah. I
think they're just I think there's no I think they're
so good. I think they I think Tom Cruise is
found in Christopher Macquarie. I guess in particular, they're like
the perfect they're the de Niro evac. I think it's like, Yeah,
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I think I think they're I can't pick between them.
I think i'd probably pick Ghost Protocol if pushed, because
it has the vergicalif a bit that When I first
watched that, I thought my I thought my toenails were
going to come off because it was so entertaining. Is
that the top the biggest building in the little bit? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's very good. That one. I love it. I mean,
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they're great, aren't they. I really love them, and I
agree with you and I do love you know. I
love stants, and they had they do real stunts in them,
and I let the Tom CUIs does stunts and there's
not a lot of CDI going. Um, they're very well choreographed,
directed action. It's great. You're not entirely run exactly mad
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Max Fury right neh wow, come on dah dah, it's
your episode. I'm not going to tell anyone, and I
don't care, no, I do. I do. You know you're
a fucking dickhead, but like that's fine, that's so fine.
Brett's think about you is you're sort of inclusive. It's
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you'll know a fucking dickhead, but you's and that's okay,
that's fine. I still hang out with him. I think
Tom Cruise is one of those guys that we will
miss when he's we will miss when he's gone. I
think he is there will never be another one. There's
there's never going to be another one. He's a truly
great movie star, and he knows that to make movies.
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Yeah great, I even saw The Mummy. That's how all
that I'm in on him? Yeah, what happened then? I
think I don't want to think about it. Push it
deep down. Something happened there. I don't know what it
was anyway, of all the films, of all of them,
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if you had to, which film do you think you
could have made? And way? This is the best question.
I think, Thank you. A lot of people really resisted
to this when they have too many Like what do
you mean? You get it? Push? You get it? It don't.
I want to say I get it, but like I
think it's it's almost it's too open ended. If I
had some alone's got a gun up to your head,
(32:23):
the boom is if I made a film, If I
actually made a film, it would be like the room
that it would just be so amateurisian ship. The crew
would be so unmotivated. I'd totally lose. I'd lose the
crew in the first day. I'd profile in loads of
sex scenes for myself. But in terms of if I well,
thank you, I think in terms of what I would
(32:46):
make or something of that, I think it is The Producers.
I think i'd make a film like The Producers. I
think everything I sort of love, I think things I
write and sort of feelings that I try and emote
in stuff I write. I think you see that in
The Producers. I think it's a great, great comedy. Yeah,
(33:09):
I think it's I think it's it's it's it's everything.
I think. I think it's it's so brilliant, and I
think it really holds up and it's so entertaining, and yeah,
I love it. What a surprising and excellent answer. Okay,
why how is that surprised? I don't know. I think
I thought you'd go I don't know if you put
kinds of meds and said, what do you think films?
(33:30):
I thought you didn't picked like a drama, and I
didn't know you love The Producers and I love The Producers.
It's amazing. I really love it. I think it's weirdly underrated,
which is strange given it to the most acclaimed comedy ever.
But I think actually know what you mean because it's
because it is. It is like audacious and like provocative
(33:50):
and silly and and really funny. But I think it
I think it's got like a huge heart. Yeah, it's
about like two people who are quite lost finding each
other and sort of sparing each other on. It's quite
sweet in a in a weird way. It's like it's
like it's like mel Brooks. It's sort of naughty and chigui,
but it's lovely and yeah, yeah, it's really um, it's stirring.
(34:15):
I find it quite stirring because it's about show business
and it's you know, and I'm a sucker for that.
I mean, there's a few of my choices have got
that sort of thing. I think it's I really love it.
I really really love it. I like that. I like that. Okay,
what excellent answer? What film have you pretended to like
to impress people? The producers really worked, you really went
(34:43):
up in masturbasons good? I don't. I don't have one
for this. I think the problem is I've got there's
so many films that I've not seen that I've pretended
to see so I guess it's probably the same as
it's probably be one of those. And that's one of
the questions. Yeah, you you you're an honest guy. I
think you'd like telling someone I don't like that film
(35:04):
that you like. Yeah, And but also I think my
standards are quite low, and it takes a lot for
me to not like something. I'm one of the worst
people to ask like tips for because I really, especially
if I'm seeing a show or if I'm seeing a film,
you have to go a long way for me to
really be against it. So yeah, I sort of like
(35:27):
most films, or at least I go, oh, they got
it back. I watched The Eddie Murphy Company Meet Dave
Right a few weeks ago when I was hungover. That
is one of the most critically mauled films of recent years.
I thought, this is fine, there's no problem here. Eddie
Murphy's a spaceship being driven by Eddie Murphy. What this is? Yeah?
(35:50):
It is a wonderful ben himself. Aren't we all have
any questions? Thank you? Film? Have you never seen that?
You think it's mad? You've never seen it? I mean
there's so many isn't there? And this is this is
linked to the last one. M I had to pick one. Well,
(36:13):
actually it's not even one. I've basically never seen any
Stanley Kubrick film. I don't say that is mad? What
is the film you love that you don't expect anyone
else to lack? In Wanka n ever since you fucking
went to Hollywood. You were so nice when you used
to live in South London with me out on the corner,
(36:35):
sharing sharing Coca Cola. We used to share a counter
puff and talk about what it's going to be like
we make it to California, and I said, I'm gonna
write a question. It's going to make me laugh every
single time I do it. One day, I'm gonna ask everyone,
what's the film you think it's mad? They never seen it.
Then they're gonna ask it, say that is mad, and
(36:55):
I'm going to move on. The best thing about this
a listener should know is Brett in La I've been
I'm recording this at almost six o'clock at night on
a Friday. Brett, it's like what you've just woken up basically,
and the first thing you've done it's just cuss me, like,
mug me off. Yeah, what a day? Ready for the
(37:16):
Day looked like a plum? What is the film you
love that you don't expect anyone else to? Like? A
lot of people do like this film, but I think
they're people who are exactly like me. Okay, and this
film is basket ball? Love do you do? You love
(37:38):
basic Ball? I do love basketball. The people who make
it made it hate it. They and I don't know
if it's something that you just have to have been
there like I was, you know, it was like a
perfect teenager. Yeah, you were off it. They descended, They
just say it. I think they act like it's a
really crap film, But I was like, I don't think
(37:59):
it's really funny, like it's really it's just like a
dumb like it's you know, it's a bit purehile. But
I think there's a load of gags in it, and
there's more hits than Missus. I really, I mean, I
like it. It's definitely It's always going to have a
place in my heart. It's like a big teenage film
for me. And we still watch it at parties a lot.
I love them. I wonder if it's you know, I
(38:21):
haven't seen it in many years. I wonder if it
would be man way together when you watch it now.
But definitely, oh we loved Yeah, it's great. It's just
a big it's just a dumb film about some made
up sport. What's wrong that funny? There's some funny shitting
it really funny shit in it. But I think it is.
I think there's a very narrow band of people. Yeah,
(38:44):
you had to have been there. You had to have
been there to really enjoy it. What's the film you
would show a lover as a test to see if
you should be together? Did you? Did you do this
test with your wife? I think I did. Yes, I've
done this test. I've done this test with a few
people love it and everyone has passed. This is the
(39:11):
film that is I could have answered for so many
of them. It is Broadway Danny Rose. Wow, it is
the most romantic film as well. Probably it's full of
surprises today and what I don't know. Listen, when you
were last on the show, you spent forty five minutes
talking about money boot and this thing was taken my
(39:33):
life by the way that I'm still getting tweaks about
that and this and today You've got so many show busy,
show busy, lovely warm, lovely, big hearted films. It's interesting. Yeah.
I think I've I've I've you know, softened up in
my old age moment you fall in love and that
was fun. Broadway Danny Rose, I think is like, it's
so wonderful and I think it is a good thing
(39:55):
to show because I feel like there's a lot of
myself in that because it's about kind of small time
show business, and I just I think it's a wonderful film.
Broadway Danny Rose and Woody Allen is is whatever he is.
You know, he's not perfect, he has I think, look, look,
(40:19):
is he a sexual deviant? Yes? Is he a hack? Yes,
but let's put that to one side. He had a
great run, and I'm not ready. I think that's the
point where we stop. We go, okay, yeah, we dismiss him,
but not to the point where we can't enjoy. I
think Broadway Danny Roses like it's magnificent and it's sweet,
and it's the cinematography is amazing and the music is amazing.
(40:43):
It feels like it's like a tribute and like a
love letter to being in show business. Yeah, but I
know that you need to be in show business to
enjoy it. I think it's a I think it's wonderful
that film. I think it's his best one. I think
it's probably his best one. You were lovely today, Thanks
man glad. One of us is speaking speaking of making
(41:04):
you uncomfortable? What's the film that made youzed uncomfortable? Right?
This one? This one's a weird one. I saw this
film right in the cinema a couple of years ago
from my system. We'd heard it was great, and I
didn't know much about it. She was like, no, the
reviews are amazing. It's this film called the Souvenir, one
(41:27):
most critically acclaimed films of the it was a decade. Yeah.
And the film starts right, and there's this there's like
a house party in London, and you've got all these dynamic,
vibrant people and they're all like having chat. They were
young people. They're having passionate chats about being young and
about the world, about figuring things out, and it sort
(41:47):
of pans through all of them and it focuses on
this one girl. And I didn't know who. I didn't
didn't know who was in the film. Ward it was
about and the girl. And then I realized, oh, she's
the main character, and I thought, shame that we're in
this room at full of really cool, dynamic young people
and the lead character of this fucking film is literally
(42:08):
a boring person in the room. But literally the most
boring fucking person sits there wet, blanket, nothing, and then
the film is about her, and apparently it's it's about
the director. Yeah, right, it's about the director. But then
they never introduced this character, they never nothing happens in
(42:30):
this film, but the critics. The thing that made me
uncomfortable was the critical notice of this film got what
I'm saying, this is the greatest, most relatable story of
a doomed relationship. I thought, what the fuck? It made
me uncomfortable because I thought, I'm probably not expressing this
that well. I thought every single character in that film
(42:51):
was flamboyantly wealthy, and none of it was justified or introduced.
And what made me uncomfortable was knowing that every film
critic in Britain was like, what a relatable film? I thought, well,
I guess in that case the media are liars. I
mean is that was that the point of the film
was to make me doubt the media, because I was like,
(43:14):
it's all just posh people telling people. These posh people
are what you're like, it's a tough watch. I can't
like what I think. None of the characters do anything,
No one reacts to anything. One of the they're blokeing.
It's like, oh he's a heroin addict. Well you never
see any of it doesn't mean you may as all
said he's in clown college, like it doesn't really happens.
(43:38):
And everyone's like, he's such a good actor, and I
was like, is he a good actor or does he
just have a fucking scar on his face? Like I
think it's true. I think the whole film is a
fucking con. It sickens me that film. And she's made
a sequel. What happens in the sequel? Nothing? And then
there's another one coming, There's it's trilogy. It's like Lord
of the Rings. It's like Lord of the Rings. There
(44:00):
was no Hobbits or Ring or Gollum. And they lived
in London and they didn't go anywhere. It made me uncomfortable,
like how a film like that could ever be. I
don't know. What I will say is I'm wary whenever
I see a film getting five stars by all the critics.
And it's like, I know that film is going to
(44:22):
be really really slow. M I thing as I can
deal would slow. I like, my ideal film is just
like Steve Bruschevy and a room coughing for an hour
and a half. I don't need stuff to happen. But this,
this was I was like insulted as an audience member
that you would I don't know, I'd probably sound like
(44:43):
an idiot, probably got what an uncultural dodol. But I thought,
I just thought. I thought it was so weak. I
find it difficult to watch. Plus people, none of the
characters were introduced, like none of them. She wasn't introduced,
she never showed any I never got a sense of
who she was or what their relationship was, which is
bad storytelling. I mean, that's just bad. And I guess
(45:07):
if you're an everyman trope or like an every you know,
a common person, the audience can fill in the blanks themselves.
I thought there is such a divide here between yeah,
and also, if you're going to make a film about
a doomed romance between an old heroin addict and a
young film student, why don't you make something happen? Why
(45:31):
don't you just make something happen. Why don't you have
a conversation, like he says, you have a heroin addict
and then she just doesn't react. It mayst have been
like or something like, and they just all repress plus
people so they don't react. But you know that makes
it makes for great romantic scenes where no one Also,
(45:53):
someone said to me, apparently the woman who's in it,
I got nothing took by the way, it's clear I
got nothing these people personally, but everyone involved in this
is a fucking dish, continuing me. No, of course not.
But she was, She's never acted before. She was just yeah,
(46:17):
so what what are we doing here? Guys? What are
we doing here? What's what are we doing here? Though?
What are we doing? Tilda Swinton's daughter plays plays the
director in and the director goes, yeah, we've even recreated
(46:37):
my old flat. M what you do? I don't know
what we're doing here. It's not no, it's not coach protocol,
it's not even Rush hour three, it's not close to
i'd agree with Yeah. Sorry, I probably not. I probably
should have been more articulate there. No, I think there's
(46:59):
something I think at the core of society's problems. Baked
into that film, and I probably haven't pierced it enough,
but it's not good enough. And I think when I
am the King, that film will be the first to
be deleted in a Starlard esque purge. You get my vote,
(47:20):
but as king you don't need it, so good luck.
If you could show a child one film, what would
it be, muess the souvenir, I'd be like, this is
what the world is, this is what we're up against.
I would show them a film that I loved as
a child. I probably was too young to watch, but
(47:43):
I adored it called Pleasantville. So really great entertaining film. Yeah,
and it's about tolerance and open mindedness and the dangers
of closing yourself off and the dangers of having yeah
(48:03):
I have a small worldview, and oppression and it's very entertaining.
There's a scene where the mum fingers herself in a bath.
I had no idea what she was doing until I
was about twenty one and I went, that's what I thought.
She was just having a really fun bath. Yeah yeah, yeah,
but um, I think it's a really great um. It's
sort of like a it's almost like a fairy tale
(48:25):
and sort of how it's told, and it feels like
it's it's very moral when the kids need to watch
stuff with morals, don't they Yeah, because I don't think them.
I don't think the unboxing videos have got much morals,
so I think so. I think people are unboxing the
stuff for the kids on YouTube and saying stuff like
you know, don't don't hate, don't hate. Eastern Europeans were
(48:45):
all the same anyway inside this box. Yeah, good one. Yeah,
I love love it. It means a lot to be
It's very special to me. That film. Yeah, I saw
it with my It was the surprise film at the
(49:06):
London Film Festival. Me and my dad went years and
years ago, and I'd seen the trailer and the trailer
looked stupid. I was like, this film looks stupid and
they don't tell you when it's a surprise film. It
just started and it's a pleasant film. Pleasant. When I
turned I don't even know what's this and I was like,
I don't know, thinking it will be shit. And we
loved it so much and we talked about it all
the way. We talked about it all the next day.
(49:28):
It's very special to me. It's beautiful, brilliant, Yeah, that's
really good to hear. I think it's I think it
is a special film in general, and it's sort of
it's weird that it. I guess it was a hit,
wasn't it? Like people know it, people know I don't know.
It always massive, but it's it's really deep. And there's
the bit where basically, if you haven't seen the film,
(49:48):
it's simple black and white and when people kind of
have an emotional breakthrough, they turned into color. And Toby
McGuire keeps there's a scene where where he I don't
want to spoil it, but where he thinks he's going
to have his breakthrough and he wakes up in the
money and he's still black and why because that's not
his journey. It's very moving. Yeah, it's really it's really um,
(50:08):
it's really moving, I think, and very very funny to
film that it starts off good and it gets better
and better, which is all you can ever ask for it.
So that's what I would show. I would show a
little kid that you watch this, you watch this, ship,
you watch this, and then you get out, push this
(50:28):
and get out. I don't don't tell you mom that
I abducted. You ll show you Pleasantville. It's funnestly, it's
been good, but she's not gonna understand that. It's going
to look weird if you if you tell this to
the police. This is between us and I don't care,
but I've abducted you because I want you to learn
some morals because of all those fucking handboxing videos. Watch
Pleasantville and I will take you home. Sean McLoughlin, you
(50:54):
have been wonderful. I'm so glad I brought you back
to life. You've been so good. In fact, I'm gonna
let you, but before you go, what film would you
like to leave in your will? The fuck you to?
What film would I like to leave in my world?
(51:14):
Is it one of the ones I have to mention
I've already mentioned? Or can it be any film? It
can be anything. What film would I leave in my will? Yeah?
One film you'd lead behind people to Shanghai noon lovely,
really lovely. Sean mcguffin, I don't mind. This is between
us and I don't care who he is it. You've
(51:34):
been magnificent. I really loved this. Thank you so much.
I've enjoyed it so much that I might come up
with any way to kill you. So I can have
you beg Yeah, I really I really like you. Oh
thanks man, it's been a real treat and between you
and me, thanks for your fucking dick edge. Is there
(51:55):
anything you want to tell people to look out for you?
You're touring gigging tour this year across the UK and
Europe and potentially the rest of the world. Uh, go
on my website to buy tickets please. It's going to
be an hour and a half of a stand up
from me and it's going to be Um, it's gonna
(52:15):
be good, I think, magnificent. It should be good. The
European dates I think are coming at the end of January,
so yes, it can so be it. It's as yes,
I mean, it's just that you have to call it
something that. Yeah, you're doing stand up again. You're doing gigs.
(52:36):
You're only doing gigs in America? Are you doing them
here as well? I'm back see I'll be doing them
in the in the Englands too. That would be fun,
wouldn't it. Yeah, maybe we're having together. That'd be good.
That would be really good. All right, thank you for
your time, have a wonderful day. Complexit God bless you.
(52:57):
So that was episode one hundred and eighty one. Head
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on about it. Go on, give it go would be
(53:18):
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the show, Thanks for scrupus pipping the distraction pieces of network.
Thanks to Buddy Peace for producing it. Thanks to ACAS
for hosting it. Thanks to Adam Richardson for the graphics
and Leasing Laden for the photography. Come to me next
week where my next guest is the brilliant one and
only mister Daniel Rigby's Daniel Rigby. You're going to really
(53:40):
like it. Thank you all for listening. So that is
it for now. I hope you're all well, happy New Year,
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