LOOK OUT! It’s only Films To Be Buried With! A REWIND CLASSIC!
Join your host Brett Goldstein as he talks life, death, love and the universe with the really hilarious comic with a slew of specials in tow, TAYLOR TOMLINSON!
Below will be the original writeup for this episode which originally aired on 2nd February 2023. It's me on the intro/outro (your producer Buddy Peace), so don't be alarmed. I mean you no shock or surprise. A great episode on all counts! Have fun.
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A fantastic episode with Brett catching up with Taylor about so much, including her brilliant and highly rated Netflix specials, social media and taking it seriously, beginning young, when is it time to coast, mental health and bipolar II, balancing weight and funny in a set, grief, audience safe spaces, growing up religious and ever so much more. Breezy and bright and delicious from start to end - get to know Taylor and enjoy everything she does!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Look out.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It's only films to be buried with Rewind Classic season. Hello,
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there is films to be buried with Crewe. My name
is Buddy Peace. I'm a producer and editor, a DJ
and music maker, a showerlin shadow boxer, and for intro
and outropper. I'm temporarily standing in for your regular host
and proud creator of this podcast, mister Brett Goldstein. As
m F. Doom once said, Yo, y'all can't stand right
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here in his right hand was your man's worst nightmare
loud enough to burst his right ear drum close range.
The game is not only dangerous, but it's most strange.
Tell that to Michael Douglas MTh Doom, I think you'd
find a speed agree from the guy. Every week britainvites
a guest on. He tells them they've died and then
talks to them about their life through the medium of film. However,
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this week we are revisiting an earlier episode of the
podcast while Brett recharges the podcast batteries and retreats to
the fortress of solitude for a moment or two in
this bridge between the seasons. This Rewind is from February second,
twenty twenty three, originally episode two hundred and thirty three,
featuring the wonderful comic Taylor Tomlinson, who is a regular
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face on the Netflix comedy special Scene and since the
time of recording, has had another special released. So if
this is your first time hearing Taylor, you have a
huge amount of binging ahead of you and should definitely
also check for live shows in your vicinity. I will
take this opportunity to also remind you that Brett has
a Patreon page for the podcast, upon which you get
a bonus section on every episode with a secret from
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each guest, more questions, and a video of each episode
which looks all nice and fresh and it's just nice
to see faces talking. So if you're of a supporting
nature and feel like some extras from this show, you'll
find them all there. So that is it for now.
Let's get you settled in for a revisit of a
wonderful episode with the brilliant Taylor Tomlinson. Catch you at
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the end for a quick sign off, But for now,
please enjoy this flashback to episode two hundred and thirty
three of Films to Be Buried with.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Hello and welcome to Films to be buried with It
is me Brett Ghodstein and I enjoined today by an actor,
a writer, a producer, a TikToker, a body rocker, a
last comic standing a, a Netflix superstar, and genuinely one
of the greatest stand ups that we have working today.
(03:10):
She's an absolute mind blower. I cannot believe we've got
her on the show. Can you believe it? I can't.
Is she here? She is? Well, she speaks, so you
better believe it. Kid, here we go. It's only she's here.
It is taking the toubleingsude.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I was drunk so hard not to laugh over very extensive,
dishonest intro.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
How are you? What fair treat?
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I'm great? How are you?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Good?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
To see you?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Good to see you. We met very briefly at the
improv once are your favorite gig at the improv?
Speaker 4 (03:46):
I met you at Largo?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Oh yeah, we did Lago and then we did improv
with you. And did we do the impron Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yeah we did?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Okay, and you are an astonishing comedian. I think your
last Netflix special is incredible, and I also think you
do the thing that puts you in the top ten
category that is really funny. De'ctually funny, excellent funny, but
also such a worker as in jukes on jokes on
jokes on jokes. Every line has forty jokes in it.
(04:16):
You're fucking good at it. You're very very good.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Oh that's so nice.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
And I was thinking about it because I remember I
wondered if you felt this or feel this like you
started young and you had your first special at twenty five,
and I know comics and I know people, and I
know that that is that puts you in a position
of like, who's this fucking kid? How dare she? Which
is why I always I wondered if like your sort
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of work ethic came just naturally that's how you always are,
or if it was like I really need to prove
myself because people are going to be like, who's this
fucking child having a go? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
No, Oh, it absolutely comes from that right in her
dialogue is who's this fucking kid?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
All the time? Because yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I was sixteen when I started, and so for years
and I'm sure, Look, I think anybody who's successful in
this business knows that there are a lot of reasons
why people get opportunities, and like, I'm sure me being
younger helped me get certain opportunities, and so you just
try to work hard and be worthy of them when
you get them. But oh my god, yeah, I was
(05:21):
so scared that everyone was going to be like this sucks,
and she's got it because she's a child and this
was a fluke and we're never going to let her
do anything again. So I was really glad when they
gave me another one. And I felt like this one
was like, okay, let's like prove it that were actually
like one of the guys, one of the comedians.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I mean, you're beyond Do you think when you get oh,
you're just stuck coasting because you'll be like, yeah, oh no,
I have to to work hard. I deserve to make
make them out.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I certainly helped it. I mean it hasn't happened yet.
I would have thought that I could coast by when
I was younger. I thought, once I have a Netflix
special all Coast, And then I got a Netflix special
and I was like, well, I can't coast because that
might have been a fluke. And I got the second
one and I was like, well, now I can coast,
and now I'm like, no, it's never been harder to coast.
I feel like you have to be doing everything now
(06:11):
you can never coast, like, especially with social media being
what it is, Like I have a social media manager
who's you know, she's twenty four and she's amazing and great,
and she's always telling me to post every day, and
I'm like, I think I'm like one.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Of the people who's doing a good job.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
At this, and I feel like I don't do enough,
Like I'm writing jokes that are just for the internet,
and then I have my hour and then I have,
you know, sort of like the next hour started before
we film that one, so we have a jumping off point.
Like you just have to produce so much material and
so much content now in a way that you just
never had to before. Really depressed, I'm so sorry. I mean, yeah,
(06:51):
I'm coasting a good time out here.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
My question to you is I didn't see it at
the time, and I'm into interested in everyone on this,
Like when you do startup, do you get nervous? I
mean you do it all the time, but do you
get nervous before a gig? Or is it easy stepping
on stage every day?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
I think it depends what it is and where it is.
I mean, I don't get nervous most of the time anymore.
When I was younger, I had really bad stage fright.
I would get like nauseous for a week.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
It was.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
It was really tough when I was younger, especially now,
like having an audience. It is so nice to walk
out on stage for people who paid to specifically see you, Like,
you know, it's so different than going out and winning
over people who are just there for a comedy or
for someone else. Like, It's much much easier in terms
of nerves. So I don't get nervous so much anymore.
(07:42):
I'll get nervous for weird things, like if it's a
show I've been nervous about, it's usually because like you know,
my manager and agents came to see the new Hour,
or I have a friend there you know that doesn't
see me perform very much.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Or that's awful, isn't it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
I get more nervous performing in town.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I get more nervous going to like the comedy store,
the comedy seller because of just god, I hope everyone
here thinks I'm good and funny.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Like on the road, you don't really get nervous, really,
I mean, if this is bad because.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
I'm going to see it except for these twelve hundred people.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Sorry, sorry, guys.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
What about your last special, which is truly fucking brilliant.
It was all about a belief. The entire hour was
about meant to have basically a.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Lot of it was Yeah, not the whole thing, but
a lot of it.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, as a theme, and it's really really good, really
you know, wise and really funny. And I wondered if
that was an early choice, like I'm going to do
an hour about this, I want to talk about this stuff,
but whether that just came from I've got lets of
stuff that seems to be on this theme and then
became an hour.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Yeah, No, it wasn't a plan at all.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I mean, I think for my first special, Quarter Life Crisis,
that was very much like I took more serious jokes
out and saved them because I wanted that hour to
just be about being in your twenties and be sort
of thematically consistent. And then the second hour sort of
just evolved until it became like the first half is
(09:16):
about mental health and grief, I think, or maybe even
forty minutes of it is because I knew I wanted
to do jokes about losing my mom as a kid.
But I didn't know how much of it was gonna
be in the Hour. I think it it just expanded
until it was more than I expected it to be.
And then I got diagnosed with bipolar two like six
months before we filmed it, and initially yeah, yeah, So
(09:40):
initially I was like, I'm not gonna talk about this
on stage at all. And then I was, you know,
working on the Hour, and I think I tried to
joke about it maybe like Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
I was just like, ah, this is just a new one,
let me see. And it did really well.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
And I just tend to write about stuff that's happening
to me, So it just sort of happened. It moved
up in the hour, and by the time we were
filming it, I was like, oh, this is like four
minutes in, we're getting into this.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
It was very I mean both specials I've done and
I'm sure this one will be the same way. Sort
of the like five months before it came out, something
big happened in my life that sort of changed the
entire direction of the Hour, like changed a big portion
of it in a big way, which is I think
the really cool thing about stand up is you just
never know what life's going to throw out you if
(10:28):
you are a very personal comedian, like, I don't know
if you feel like this. I feel like you're pretty personal, right,
You're not like topical and observational so much as you're personal.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Right, I'm pretty personal. I was going to ask you,
but then I thought, actually, maybe you can't answer this
for obvious reasons. But is there anything that you won't
talk about in the stage. I'm guessing you're not gonna
tell me what that would be because you don't talk
about it in a podcast, But or are you, in
theory open to talking about anything you know?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
That's interesting because lately I've been less willing to talk
about certain things. I think when I was younger, I
was like, I will write jokes about anything, and over
the years I've gotten better, and luckily I got better
at this before I was doing specials about like if
I write jokes about you know, an X or something,
(11:14):
I will disguise it so you can't tell or figure
out who it is, or it's not too personal or
too pointed. I always say, like I dated someone years ago,
Like it's it's never like I just went through a breakup,
like I try to be sensitive about that. I mean,
before the last special came out, I sent my aunt
all the jokes about losing my mom, which you know,
(11:35):
none of the jokes were about my mother specifically, but
I didn't want her to see it and feel like
I was being disrespectful or poking fun at you know,
the greatest tragedy of her life, as well as mine,
because I just don't.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
I don't think a.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Joke is worth your relationships, Like, I just don't think
it is. And yeah, there's certain things now that I'm like, no,
I don't know, maybe we don't have to get into that,
or I've learned to wait on certain things and go,
you know what, let's just see how we feel about
this in six months and then hopefully talk about it
from a more balanced, mature perspective. Because when you first
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rate jokes about a breakup or a difficult parental relationship
or what have you, it comes out much harsher.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I think, then, yes.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Because you're coming from such a hurt place.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
I mean, have you found that I don't know how
really like same question to you.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I guess, well, everything that I My first two Standard
Sized were incredibly personal, but they were also about things
that were quite a long time ago, so I'd left
enough time that it felt like, a I can make
proper jags about this without it being too sad or
too duck. But also the people involved are now far
(12:46):
enough away from it aasin I'm disguising everyone. But still,
you know, I always remember going I won't name these people.
I hope this is okay. I went to the EDWINND Festival,
which I went to a lot. I always think about this.
There were two shows. They were two basically dead mum shows.
They were a show a guy talking about his mummy
dad and the guy talking about his Mommy's like both shows,
(13:07):
and one of them was quite recent and one of
them was long ago. And the one that was long
ago was a great show. It was very moving and
it was very funny and it was great and I
felt as an audience watching it, I was like, this
is really good because he's doing all this quite deep,
difficult stuff, but I feel safe here because I can
tell he's okay. Ultimately he's okay. And the other guy
(13:29):
it was too raw, and I guess, you know, you
could argue, well, that's interesting. It was interesting, but I
felt in danger as an audience. I felt worried for him.
I sort of wanted to go are you like I kept,
I almost wanted to like, heckle, are you okay? Because
it didn't feel I always I felt like, you're not
ready to talk about this. I get that you're doing it,
(13:51):
but you haven't processed any of this enough to make
a good comedy show. What we're doing here is feels unsafe,
feels like, yeah, I'm worried about I'm really worried about you.
So I'm not sure this is a good shot, you
know what I mean? Yeah, but there's also you know,
you always hear that Tignaitaro set where she's just found
out she's got cancer is an amazing set, and that's immediate,
(14:12):
you know, Like I guess depends, Yeah, yeah, it depends
if you're a genius or not. Helps if you.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Helps, if you're a genius like Tignaitaro. Yeah, no, I
think that's one hundred percent true. I again, not to
harp on my Dead Mom material, but the Dead Mom
jokes and look at you like a few of them
I had tried to do when I was, you know,
twenty one, twenty two, and I just hadn't gone to
enough therapy and I hadn't worked through enough of it,
and I really did think I was fine, and I
would get frustrated with audiences. And also part of it
(14:44):
is like I was just too young, like nobody believed
I was okay.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I wasn't okay with anything.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I was like a mess, And even now I try
to be respectful of that when I'm working on material.
If I feel like like there was some material I
was doing about a difficult relationship in my family that
still is very painful for me, and I had turned
it into material, and some nights that felt like justice,
and then other nights it felt like, oh my god,
(15:11):
why did I even bring this up right now?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Like not because it wouldn't go well.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
It was all working, but it was a lot for
me to act like I was okay when I'm just
not yet. And I'm like, you can talk about this later,
like these are evergreen jokes that you can do in
a year or two or never. It's also okay to
just never do certain jokes. But right now you are,
as you said, too raw, and I think you just
(15:35):
have to. As you mature as a performer, I think
you get better at recognizing that about yourself and in
the same way you like learn to live with anxiety
and depression. You just go, oh, I wish I didn't
feel a way right now, but I do. So we're
gonna be gentle and wait so we don't feel a way.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
My first stand upisode, which was about eight period of
my life, that stuff happened, and I remember I always
think about the fact that, in my early preview of
it did the hour maybe for the third time, and
afterwards a woman from the audience came up to me
and just hugged me and said, I'm so sorry that
happened to you. And I really thought, oh, you know,
that was many be a comedy shot, and it was
(16:12):
a real lesson in like, oh, I've sold this completely
wrong to audience. They feel I have to twiddle this
to make it much more safe to laugh about, you
know what I mean. Like she just thought it was
a dramatic monologue about a terrible incident, and.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
You know, yeah, you don't want I'm sorry that happened.
You want thank you for talking about that. It made
me feel better. That's what you want. You want, thank you. No,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
It's a terrible reaction audience with the stuff you've done
that's like the difficult stuff your mum and the bipolar thing.
Do you feel because I'm also curious I hear both
sides of this. Do you feel like it's therapeutic, like
it's helpful to you that you that you talk about this,
that you process it through comedy, or do you ever
think that by talking about it so much and doing
(16:58):
it as stand up it makes it work because you're
reembedding it, reembedding it every time it's coming up.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Honestly, that's a great question, because there were points on
the last tour, as I was gearing up to film
Look at You the second special, where I was like,
I cannot do this material anymore.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Not because I wasn't proud of it.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I really loved that material and I was really proud
of it, but it was emotionally very draining to do
every night, and I was doing it twice a night
a lot of nights, and then you know, meeting people
after shows that were bringing up their mental health struggles
and their experiences with losing family members, and it was
just really heavy. It was just really heavy to sort
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of brace myself every night to get into that material
and like we're talking about make the audience feel comfortable
with it, because when I was younger, when I was
like a teenager and I was going on stage, people
were nervous for me because I was so young, Like
people were scared for me because I was so young. Yeah,
so I had to learn how to they're already nervous.
So I had to learn how to make feel comfortable
just by like carrying myself a certain way. And I
(18:04):
felt that way with that last hour of material too,
is I was like, oh, I have to really I
have to really hit the mark, Like I have to
really stick the landing on this stuff so that people
aren't uncomfortable. And it was just a lot more taxing
than like my current hour of material save for that
like six minute chunk that I just took out really recently,
(18:28):
just like this month, maybe last month, but the first
couple months of the tour and over the summer, I
was doing that material and it was sort of towards
the end, and I thought it was interesting and it
was like a little darker and sadder, but I was like,
I'm just not I just don't want to dread this
part of the show.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Every night.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I want like a break, like I just want to
do an hour that's lighter and easier and still very personal,
I think, and is vulnerable and is about certain fears
I have right now.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
But it is it is a lot, a lot lighter
is on purpose.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yeah, great, that's that sounds good. Tricky, isn't It is
tricky because it is Also it's the good stuff. It's
always the stuff. The stuff you dread is always the
best stuff.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
I know, it always is. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
The other thing that I think is very nice about
you is that Dustin Nicholson, who is a very lovely,
very funny comedian, seems you always have him as you
open it and you travel with him? Is that true? Instagram? True?
And have you ninne him forever? I just loved that
you're always with your friend on these things. That seems
like a lovely relationship.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yes, it's made a huge difference. I met Dustin like
ten years ago, which is funny because we were both
a few years into stand up.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
But I was, you know, I was in college.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
I was like nineteen, and he was my age now
is about ten years older than me, and he had like,
you know, three kids under ten, and he was married,
and I was like a child, like we're very different
places and we weren't like friends right away, but we
were doing stand up at this time in San Diego,
and over the years, you know, I started in churches.
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He was doing some churches as well, and he was
just one of the only people I knew who was
like doing every type of gig the same way I was.
Where like we were both doing clubs, colleges, churches, corporate events,
like we were both doing everything, and again we were
both in San Diego and just kind of naturally over
the years. I think a big turning point was probably
(20:25):
when I was I think I was twenty three at
the time, twenty two or twenty three, and I got
fired from opening for a church comedian. And after they
called me to fire me, they took me off a
bunch of tour dates as the opener, and they called
dustin immediately after and gave him all of the work
that I'd gotten fired from. Why he file because I
(20:47):
had tweeted a joke with any window in it.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Oh disgusting.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I know, it was rough, but it was it was
good because it was like the last sort of churchy
gig that I was still doing and after that I
got to be like I'm never doing these again. Like
we're just hard hard stop on these. But like, I
don't think Dustin I really became close friends until maybe
like four years ago.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
And yeah, he's just like he's the best.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
He's like him and his wife Melissa are just like great,
great people, and like he's really like my big brother.
I have younger siblings, but I've been the oldest, and
he's really like honest with me and looks out for
me and is gives me a lot of shit, and like,
you know, it's just a really good example of like
a really good human being in a great relationship and
(21:34):
a really good parent. And it's good for me to
be with a friend on the road, but it's also
good for me to be with a good person all
the time.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, you know, Taylor, Fuck, I've forgotten to taste something. Shit.
I should have told you this up top before we
got into all of this. I feel what a mess.
I really should have said this to you. You to do.
I suppose I should have said it earlier. I'll just
(22:03):
I'll just say you've died. You're dead.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Oh my god, I forgot you're dead, you know, it's embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I I choked on a supplement. I actually choked a supplement,
which is, you know, the iron taking something to live longer.
But no, I was. I was in a hurry, and
I took it. You know, sometimes you throw a few back.
Because it was fish oil and magnesium. It was too big, guys,
and I thought I could do it, and I just
(22:35):
I flew too close to the sun and I.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Fish it's too big.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
You got to really focus, you got to breathe through
one fish oil. And so the fact that I tried
to double up is I have no one to blame
but myself. And luckily I'm making enough money on the
road that they found me in my apartment within twenty
four hours because my agents were like, why isn't she
answering our emails?
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Otherwise it might have been a week. Who knows.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
But you're right, why is she working?
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Yeah, that's exactly correct. Everyone else has been. She's depressed.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Ye how old were you when you died?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I was, I was. I was thirty five. I was
in my prime. I was at my peak.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
You were just about to start coasting as well.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
I was just about to start coasting.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
It's true, and h You know, my entire team was
really was really torn because, on the one hand, you know,
you can't make money going forward.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
For them, but she left the game.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
My my specials went crazy. Everything got so popular once
I was dead. Yeah, the best thing that ever happened.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Delighted. They're they're at the funeral, like mopping their tears
and quietly looking down at their fighting still number one
D Yeah, we'll miss d D. Tragic.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Netflix put it under dead Pan Comedies.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
But do you worry about death? Dayla? Tell me so?
Speaker 4 (24:04):
I do?
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Yeah, I think about death all the time. Do you
think about death a lot? I mean, podcast, I would assume.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Do you think about it? Yeah? Do you think about
it in a negative context?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
I think I get really scared of death, But then
I go, I'm just as scared of life as I
am of death. And then sometimes I get so scared
of dying that I get exhausted and I go, am,
I just gonna be scared of dying the whole time.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Let's just do it right now. This is this is exhausting.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah, man, Yeah, what do you think happens when you die?
Speaker 4 (24:35):
I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I think that if anything does happen we're not going
to figure it out. I'm certainly not. I didn't finish college,
you know, I have no idea what's going on after
all this. I stand to this on my jab. Do
we have a scientist working on that. I just we're
never going to I mean, I would love it. If
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there's something else, that would be great. I think reincarnation
sounds very beautiful. I mean, I would love it if
there's something else. I think there's just as likely. It's
just as likely that there's something else as that there's nothing.
I really don't, Yeah, I don't have like strong opinions
about it. I grew up so religious that like certainty,
any sort of certainty around an afterlife or lack thereof,
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is like repulsive to me. Like, you don't know, none
of us know.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Was there an incident, was it a general thing or
was there a specific thing that made you go, I'm
not into religion anymore.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I mean, I think it was very gradual, because when
you grow up in it and your whole family is
very much a part of it, Like it's really hard
to take yourself out of it because everyone around you
is in it. So you feel like there's something wrong
with you. If you can't buy into it or feel
the things you're supposed to feel. But like, honestly, when
my mom died, I was eight, and everyone was like,
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we'll see her again, and I'm.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Like, I don't feel that way. I don't know if
that's true.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
And that was sort of the first instance of me,
I don't think I feel how I'm supposed to feel
that everybody's talking about and I don't feel like And
I went in and out of this over the years,
of like feeling like God was there for me or
talking to me or whatever, and then feeling like I
don't feel anything. And I think once I got to
I actually think once I started doing stand up and
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I started hanging out with a lot of different people
and not just like my suburban Christian town, it really
opened my eyes to the fact that there are plenty
of people who never even think about religion. They don't
think about God, they don't like it doesn't just eat
away at them. And I was always taught in church
that everybody has this little like voice in their head
that they're just ignoring, and that's God and that's faith,
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and you either listen to or you don't. Then I
got older and I was like, there's plenty of people
who don't have that at all, and it's because it
wasn't you know ingrained in them.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Can ask me one more question, which I'm sure you've
talked about many times, but it is interesting that you
were so young when you did this, if you could briefly,
why did you start stand up at sixteen? What made
you go I'm a stand up. I wanted they stand
up to you. You know.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Oh, it's not a cool story.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I took a sta I took a stand up comedy
class from a church Communitian, which was a class that
my dad wanted to take, and he told me later
he like, thought I would write for him.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
That's how it started. Yeah, that's how I started.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Doing stand up and it turned out you were good.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
It turned out.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Did your dad do it with you? Of course?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Oh yeah, he did the class with me. Yeah, he
did the class with me, but he didn't do a
stand up for anything else.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
How was his Oh god, I can't bear it. Okay, Well,
listen up, Taylor. Good news. There's a heaven and you
are in it, and everyone it's very excited to see it.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Hell yeah, oh heaven.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, yeah, this Heaven's great. It's filled with your favorite thing.
What's your favorite thing?
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Marcha?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
It is filled with matcha. It is matcha up there.
There's matter on the wolves, there's matter on the floors,
matcha match everywhere, and there are a match of people
when they walk around and they're very excited to meet you.
They huge fans. They love all your work. They want
to talk to you about your life, but they want
to talk about it through film. Isn't that weird? The
first thing they ask you is, what's the first film
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you remember seeing? Tyler Tummy.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I think the first movie I remember seeing ever, I'm
gonna say, was Aladdin, and I think I watched.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
It like every day when I was very young.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
So it's one of those things where I'm like, I
don't even know if I remember seeing it or if
I was just told that I watched it every day, Okay,
and so maybe that was it. I remember seeing Toy Story.
It's just a lot of Disney, a lot of Disney
movies when I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
That's not bad. Yeah, did you think I love this?
I want to be in movies?
Speaker 4 (28:42):
No, I really didn't. I think I did.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Maybe in like middle school, I did for a bit,
but once I started doing stand up, I was like, oh,
this is awesome. This is way better than everything else.
Like I liked acting because I like being on stage.
And then once I figured out that you could do
stand up on stage.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Like, oh, this is amazing.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I don't have to I don't have.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
To rely on anybody. This is this is great.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
But no, when I was a kid, I don't even
think I understood that you could be in movies until
I was like whatever, ten or something, and then I
was like, why am I not in Harry Potter?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Because I'm not British? Right, that was what I got it.
The first movie I remember seeing in theaters and I
only remember because I got taken out of it is
I remember being in the theater watching Hercules, and I
remember being carried out because I got scared pretty.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Immediately, scared of the blue thing.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Yeah, it's I mean that movie is about hell.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Oh yeah, that's not good.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
It like opens with hell and you're like, I'm five, Yeah, exactly,
it's very scared.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
That's sweet. What's the film that scared you the most?
That wasn't Hercules? Do you like being scared?
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I hate being scared I hate scary movies. I'm not
interested in them at all. I have a couple answers
to this. So there is a movie called Nocturnal Animals.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Have you seen this movie?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yes, this movie.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
It has Amy Adams and Jake Jaillenhall and Aaron Taylor
Johnson in it. I don't think it's actually happened to characters.
It's what's happening in the novel that they're talking about. Yeah,
and it's these guys take this family on the side
of the road and they take the mom and the
daughter and they kidnap them and drive off of them,
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and then the husband who's Jake Jalenhall like, finds their
bodies later. And it fucked me up so bad because
it's not like a supernatural thing. It's like a thing
that could happen, like all that shit with like murder
and all this. Like I just can't. I can't watch
stuff like that because it'll it'll fuck me up. So
that fucked me up. But it was a really good movie.
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But I saw that when it came out in theaters
by myself, and I was like, who can.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Never watch this again?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
And then a friend of mine told me about Hereditary
I never saw Hereditary, but they explained the plot in
great detail, and that scared the shit out of me.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
That's for a while, fucked me up. Hereditary really, Oh dude.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
I didn't even see it. I didn't even see it,
and it sucked me up.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
It's worse. It's even worse if you see it. That
is a fucking scary feel. Why do you think so
many comedians and I have lots of comedians on it,
I'd say in the far majority, some really love horror,
but most hate horror. Have your right, I hate horror.
I don't want to be scared hated. Really, yeah, so
many comedians. I mean, I assume it's controlling. But the
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reason I find it slightly surprising is because horror and
comedy are the same thing, right.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
I think the control is a great insight. I think
it probably is, like you have so much control as
a stand up comedian, Like it's it's hard to do
anything else, it's hard to write screenplays and like go
through all this like it's exhat You're just like none
of this has to take this long? Like you know,
I write stuff and do it every night, right, Like
we don't have to what's all this bullshit, We're gonna go.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Why are we discussing?
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Yeah, yeah, why are we discussing it? Let's just do it.
Come on. So that's really interesting.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Yeah, I think that if you like being a comedian,
you like having control of your surroundings and feelings and career,
and to give in to a horror movie is to
feel out of control.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah horrendous.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Yeah, you're probably right. But also, like, do most people
like horror movies? Like, is this specific to comedians? Do
you think most people do?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
They do? It's it's it's the only genre other than
kind of big marvel films that is keeping cinema alive. Like,
horror films is what people go to the cinema to
say consistently, so interesting. It's like the only sort of
low budget films that crowds will go and see is
horror films. Fascinating.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Wow, that's really fascinating.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yeah, that movie Megan is like doing really well right now,
and I want to.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Go see it.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Smile was huge.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Oh yeah, Smile is huge.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
I've been asking people if Meghan is super scary, if
I could handle it, I think it can happen because
I'm like, what's the I'm like what's the what's all
the fuss about?
Speaker 4 (33:02):
I keep hearing about this. I want to be a
part of it.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Like do you do you go out to the theater
and see what's out most of the time.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, yeah, I love horror films, but I also realized
with horror films, it's like it's like drugs with me,
Like I love them until they're too hard and then
it like Hereditary really fucked me up, and I think
I regretted seeing it because it sort of ruined me
for a week. I couldn't I was sort of genuinely
scared in my own house, and I thought, why do
you put yourself through this?
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Yeah, that's how I feel after virtually every horror movie.
But I like hearing about them, so I always get
people to tell me everything that happens in it.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
I'm like, oh, that sounds good, but I'll never watch it.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
That makes sense. Well about crying, Are you a crier?
What's the film that made you cry thet.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
My I've had it.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
I've had movies make me cry a lot. The first
movie I remember crying really hard in was when I
was a kid.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Was Bridge to Terabithia. Fuck yeah, really depressing film.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Be like you know ten and you're like a kid
can drown. That's fucked up. That really I remember crying
really hard in a theater at that one. And then God,
I remember I watched Kramer Versus Kramer for the first
time a few years ago and that made me cry
pretty hard. And a more recent I think the most
recent example I could think of was something that made
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me cry hard was Soul. Soul fucked me up. Oh yeah,
it's so good. It's so good, it really is. That
was more in a nice way.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
I guess.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Are you comfortable crying?
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Oh yeah, I'm too comfortable crying.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Are you Are you uncomfortable crying?
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Oh yeah, crying in front of people? Absolutely? No way, no,
thank you. If if ted less said the thing, it's
the vulnerability is a terrible thing and you must always
hide it. Right, that's the message.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
That's what I got from it. Yeah, that's what I learned.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Good. Yeah, I think I just did it. What about
what's a film that you love? People don't like it,
it's not critically acclaim, but you love it unconditionally. You
don't care what it thinks.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
I think I didn't know until I was an adult
that this movie is considered very bad.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
I think it's good. Still is a hook?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
I fucking love Hook.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Hook is fucking good, right. I think Hook's a good movie.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
It's a great movie. I think the first twenty minutes
of Hook is Summer Spielberg's best work. I love it's killer.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
It's so good and as terrible reviews, and I didn't
when I got to be an adult. I don't remember
even why I looked it up. I think I was
just gonna rewatch it with someone and we looked it
up on ron to minutes.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Or something, and we're like, is this considered a bad film?
Speaker 1 (35:42):
The worst thing about Hook? I'm sure I've said this
on here before, so apologies if I have. Spielberg thinks
it's bad. He's rock what he's like when he did
like a career chat. He's like, you know the one
film I think I sort of fucked up with Ho.
I'm like, no, you didn't, No, you didn't, Steven, It's brilliant.
Oh my god, did you see the Fableman? I did?
I saw it. I saw it just a couple of
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days ago.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
So did I did you like it?
Speaker 1 (36:05):
I did like it? You don't? I like more? Hook?
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Me too, so did I.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
I thought the Fablements was was very well done. I
also thought it was very self indulgent. I was like,
we sho, it's no Hook.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
It's very it's very good, but it's not.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
No.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
I agree, I'm not gonna watch it like I watched Hook.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
I'm like, if he sat down and said he was
ashamed of Hook, like what are you?
Speaker 4 (36:31):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Like that's what was him reckoning with it? It needed
a scene where he goes, I think Hook's not very good,
and his favorable parents go, it's brilliant. It's so good.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I thought it was so good. I mean, the cast
is so good, like it's the it's really really good.
It's upsetting to me. It's so validating that you also
feel that way, because I was scared to be like, no,
that's a bad movie.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
I can't. I try to describe the bit of the
end to something and I couldn't get through it because
I was going to cry. I was trying to debscribe
what his what happened. I mean, I haven't even finished
the sentence. But his happy thought is I can't bear it.
It's too much.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
I kid I know it was you.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
I know, Jesus, I'm gonna have to going to cry
any any spoils off.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
God, it's so good. Oh God, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
I would just want to bring up I think about
I think about the food fight scene all the time.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Yeah, and briefly, I mean, she she wis. What a movie.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
It's so good. It's got everything in it. I mean
truly for all the generations. I was like, this movie
is everything. There's something for everybody in this It's so good.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Something really, the build up when they go to London
and he's doing the speech and the the awesome boys
stand up and Blake kisses to Maggie Smith and the
window it's so creepy, like, oh, what a movie. So
you're a plan, Peter, great, Phil, It's so good. It's
so good.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Oh my god. Oh so really, if you.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Understand completely, okay, what is a film that you used
to love but you have watched recently and gone, I
don't like this anymore. But whatever reason that may be.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
So when I was a kid, my parents had maybe
like thirty DVDs that they just kept in their bedroom
that I would usually go to if I got sick
and I was home alone from school, and I remember
there was one movie there that I loved when I
was a kid, and I tried to rewatch it as
an adult, and I'm like, this is a bad movie,
but I still think it looks really fun to have made.
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Which now, if I don't like a movie now as
an adult, I go, but this was probably really fun
to make.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Like that always saves it for me.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Is like thinking about the actors having a really fun time.
There's this movie called Down with Love with Renezelweger and
Iwan McGregor. It's like a very campy like set in
the nineteen fifties, like just like it feels like a musical,
but it isn't at all.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
There's no music in it.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
So Rene Zellwegger's character has like this like glow up
and then writes this book about how you don't need
to fall in love and women just need to have
sex like men have sex, and it like blows up
and it's this huge success. And then Iwan McGregor is
this like chauvinistic men's magazine journalist and he tricks her
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into falling in love with him to like write an
expose proving like this author who is trying to tell
women they don't need love. Is gonna I'm gonna make
her fall in love with me by pretending to be
somebody else. And then like the twist at the end
is that she used to be his secretary before she
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was blonde, like, which is like ugly.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
I guess what he didn't know, and he didn't know,
and she like.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Did the whole thing to like win him over and
make him fall in love with her, because obviously he
falls in love with her back.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
I think Sarah Paulson's in it, David Hyde, Piers.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
It's like when I was a kid, I like loved
it and I tried to watch as adult. I'm like,
this is not a good movie, but it's it's like fun.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
I can't Yeah, it's not good. I was like, this
really doesn't.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Sounds like so it's like I had to leave the
guy in ten days backwards.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yeah, it's kind of like that, but in like the
nineteen fifties.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Right, I think I'd love it.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Honestly, you might love it. You just kind of have
to like buy into it. Yeah, but it's like cheesy
and silly, like it has a spot in my heart
of course. But if I watched it as an adult,
I would probably be like, yeah, maybe not. But as
a kid, I really really liked it a lot, and
I would watch it whenever I got sick.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
That's a great shout. And it's never come up with here.
That's a big shout. Ten points for that.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
I've never I've never met anybody who's ever seen it.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
What is the fil that means the mice to you?
Not necessarily the film itself is any good, but the
experience you had around seeing the film will always make
it important to you.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Well, the last Harry Potter movie came out when I
was a senior in high school, and so we all
went to go see like the midnight premiere of it.
When I was a kid, I read like the first
few books and they were really important to me. And
then my dad decided that they were satanic and that
I couldn't read them. And I somehow convinced him, you know,
years later, to let me go see the last movie
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with all my friends, because it was like a senior thing.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
Like it was like, I'm like, it's just a memory.
I don't even care about Harry Potter anymore. So it
was like a.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Very triumphant trip and obviously like waiting for six hours
in line with all my friends from high school was
very fun and like you know, midnight premiers of movies,
like but yeah, besides Marvel, Like that's not like a
thing anyway.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
Do people still go to midnight premieres.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
With Marvel movie? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Probably, Yeah they did, Yeah they still do.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
That midnight previous if things still happen. I hope you
were still screaming at this great Hayo say to it.
As he watched, I was.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Just going, this is so much better than the Lord. No,
that was that was a big That was a big thing.
And then I saw the I saw the last Lord
of the Rings movie in theaters, which watching those as
a kid was like really important to me. And like
those those movies I remember those in like Star Wars
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I kind of all watched around the same time, which
was like nine years old, and those were like the
first like behind the scenes things I had watched about filmmaking,
and that made me go, oh, I had no idea.
This was so hard, Like I had no idea how
much went into this, just how difficult it was to
get the first Star Wars movie made for so many reasons,
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like at every step of the way is still something
I think about all the time. So yeah, I think
those two. I'm trying to think of a more recent example.
Otherwise all of my examples are gonna be from when
I was a child.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
Oh, I have one more.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
I saw La La land in theaters when I I
was living in LA and I really didn't like it.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
I really didn't like La at the time.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
And I went to go see it at this theater
down where you live that's now closed. It was the
Landmark Theater and I saw it like ten pm by myself.
I didn't know a ton about it. I just knew
it was the same guy who did Whiplash, which I
had loved. And I remember I saw it like an
empty theater at like ten pm, and I was like.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
Oh man, this is really nice. VBLA is not that bad.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
That's great.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
So's are mine?
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yeah, what's the film you most relate to? Taylor Tumlinson.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
Oh, gosh, I'm going to say this because it was
the book and both versions of the movie I think
I really love and it was important to me growing up.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
Was Little Women because I.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
Was the oldest of four and there's alway yeah, and
I think like every time you watch it. My brother,
my brother is Trance. But there's four of us all together. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
there's four of us all together, and I'm the oldest,
and so you're the probably. I mean, it's like I'm
not you know, nobody's I don't even know. I don't
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even know, Like my brother's probably Joe. My other sisters
probably Meg because she's the most patient.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
And then I think, I don't think or no, maybe
she's more like Beth.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
And then me and my youngest sister are probably fighting
it out for we're probably an Amy Meg combo, both
of us, honestly, but everyone wanted to be Joe, but
you know, my brother's Joe.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
We're being honest.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Manuscripts.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
And I'm like, I wish that wasn't me, but that's
probably me, bry so petty. I think I'm Meg now.
I think I've matured into a Meg. But I was
probably probably an Amy when I was younger. I just
didn't realize, like, you're selfish, but I wasn't the youngest ever.
But yeah, that's uh, that's so much more fun than
like your sex and the City, Like which sex in
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the City character are you is which little women sister?
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Are you? That's too great? Golics? I know, okay, aba guys,
this is the reason people cheating. What's the sexiest film?
You'd have the same time to tell me? Is it? Oh?
Speaker 4 (45:07):
This one I didn't have an answer to.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
I could not get out. I really couldn't think of one.
I can't think it, like, I really can't. I think
I'm a prude.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
I don't know your film has ever given you the
horn zero?
Speaker 3 (45:20):
I'm sure they have, but I don't know. Does everyone
just say magic Mike? But even that, it's like it's
coming so overtly sexual. That's I guess that's what I'm
thinking of, is like very sexy.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
I think all about Eve is very sexy. Actually that
sounds like sort of a that's.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
A hyper answer for why why is it all about sexy?
Speaker 3 (45:41):
I just think she's really sexy, and I think like
her being this like older, sort of complicated, like petty,
Like I think she's got so many great lines in it,
Like I remember like watching that made me feel like
maybe it's not that it's sexy, it's that it made
me feel like I could grow in because I don't
feel particularly sexy as a person. But I'm like, maybe
I can grow into being sexy if I'm like a
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successful woman in show business into my forties and fifties.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
I like this plan for you, and then I have
to ask the question and I may see me and
you don't have one. But I'm furious. This is a
subcategory traveling bone is worrying. Why don't filmy found arousing
that you went and show you shit?
Speaker 3 (46:21):
That's easier? I think, Oh, okay, I don't think that's easy.
Oh I think that's so much easier. Oh that's I
think everyone has that. Like, but a movie that you're like,
this is a sexy film, I'm like, that's hard. That's
a really hard one because that feels more objective. Movies
that you were aroused by that you shouldn't have been.
I mean, where do you fucking start? That's an easy one.
(46:43):
How many people say Simba?
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Right?
Speaker 4 (46:44):
Everyone does? Everyone say Simba? Everyone says Simba.
Speaker 3 (46:48):
Another really basic one is, uh, not to do too
many Peter Pan movies. But the live action Peter Pan
movie that came out when I was a child. A
lot of women in my age bracket, that was like
a big one for them and that.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
With Hugh Jackman in it.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
No, No, it's the one with It's the dad from God. Oh,
Jason Isaacs. Yes, someone with Jason Isaacs and the blonde
kid that everyone was obsessed with who didn't act in
anything after that. And so you can't, you can't like
go watch his more recent work to feel better about it.
That's just a kid, and you I still do. I
(47:28):
have a joke about it where I go like, I
don't think children should be allowed to be actors because
when you're a kid, you watch these movies and they're
important to your sexual awakening, and then you can't rewatch
them as an adult because you just remember how hornet.
You get, like nostalgically horny, isn't it where you're like,
oh my god, I remember how I used to watch
this and now I see that this was a child.
(47:50):
But you're like, but I was a child, and you're like,
I know, but it's just I can't watch this ever again.
Why is he whispering? Yeah, you're like, why are he whispering?
It's like a scene where he's like spring to like
get her to come to Neverland, and I just remember
like as a kid, we were all just like.
Speaker 4 (48:05):
I don't know what's happening, but I'm feeling things.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Tale You've totally made up for the for the not
knowing what a sexy film is.
Speaker 4 (48:15):
Very I think it's easier. I know, I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
I don't have any So anyway, what is objectively, objectively
the greatest film of all time might not be your favorite,
but subjectively the.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
Greatest objectively, I'm gonna say Citizen Kane, which I'm sure
a lot of people have said, no enough people really
is number one on the AFI Top one hundred movies.
And the reason I'm going to say it is because
it's number one, which is, you know, very difficult to
live up to. I think and I watched it during
(48:49):
Quarantine because we were like, well, we should watch as
many movies on this list that we haven't seen now
that we have all this time, and it like blew
my mind how good it was. I'm like the fact
that this it feels so modern, Like that's what blew
me away about it. And the fact that you could
watch a movie that came out in nineteen forty and
(49:09):
go this is this feels so relevant and modern and
current and impressive was like crazy to me, and that
you'd watch it because it was number one on the
Greatest Movies of All Time lists, and you would still go, Okay, yeah, no,
I get it.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
Yeah, it's legit, isn't it. I'm always delighted when you
watch fans of that and you go, oh, it's not boring.
I was expecting this to be boring. I assume that's
why you alway said it was great. Yeah, boring. Well yeah, yeah,
it is fucking great that film. It really is good,
well done, well done, it's so good. Good for him.
What is the film? You could? Or have watched The
(49:50):
Mice to Iver and over again.
Speaker 3 (49:51):
I've watched sims Insensibility, Angley's Sense of Sensibility.
Speaker 4 (49:55):
I love that film so many times, do you?
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Oh, my god, fucking great film. It's so good.
Speaker 4 (50:01):
Yeah, that's one of my favorite movies.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
And I've watched it so many times since I since
I was a kid, and I just think Emma Thompson
did such a great job with that script and everything
about it is perfect to me.
Speaker 4 (50:15):
It's like a comfort movie of mine.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
It's proper classy that film, Angly. I mean, I don't
like that he keeps doing these motion smoothing films recently,
I'm like, it's just making beautiful films. He keeps making
these like action films with like fifty two frames a
minute that looked like sports footage. Pretty weird. What are
you doing? Get back on a horse. You do good
(50:38):
stuff on the get horses, do really good horse stuff.
We don't like to be negative tighter do WEA? So
very quickly, what's the worst film you've ever seen?
Speaker 3 (50:52):
So I was trying to think about this because show
business ruins you as far as being critical of movies,
because you know how hard it is to get anything
made TV, but especially film, and you know how many
different places it could have gone wrong, and you know that,
like even terrible movies took five years to make, and
a million different people weighed in, And that's why it's
(51:13):
been the only movie that I think I've ever walked
out of. And I'm not saying this is the worst
movie I've ever seen, because I don't remember, because I
didn't even finish it. There was a movie that came
out I'm gonna look it up from twenty It was
came out in twenty sixteen, and it was called Rules
Don't Apply, and it was Lily Collins and the guy
(51:36):
who played Hans Solo in like the Solo movie.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
That came out and he was in Olden Yes, and
Warren Batty and I was a friend of mine.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
Yeah, there was a friend of mine. We went to
go see it, and we love going to see movies.
We'll pretty much see anything. And I think we walked
out of it because we were just like, this is
not this is just not great.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
What were the roads that went and playing?
Speaker 3 (52:02):
I think he was like her driver or he was
a driver. Maybe it was like he wasn't supposed to
they weren't supposed to date or something. I don't even
I don't even remember. I just didn't. I just didn't like. Again,
it takes a lot for me to I don't think
I've ever walked out of a movie before. The only
other movie I almost walked out of recently, which I'm
(52:24):
so glad I didn't, but I was in a full theater.
I went to go see Tar and the Oh my god,
it was so good, but you know the beginning, there's
all those credits and they're so long, and a bunch
of us in the theater were like, did they fuck
up the movie? Like it was so long. We were
so we were just like, is it is this the end?
(52:45):
We missed the whole movie?
Speaker 4 (52:47):
What happened?
Speaker 3 (52:47):
Like should we go talk to someone? But then it
started and it was great.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
Yeah, Well, I film, good film. You're in comedy, you're
an excellent comedian, You're one of the greats. What's the
film that made you laugh the most?
Speaker 3 (53:01):
I saw Bridesmaids in high school and it like blew
my mind, which is another one I've seen a bunch
of times.
Speaker 1 (53:09):
It's good.
Speaker 4 (53:10):
Jesus Christ, it's so good.
Speaker 3 (53:12):
It's so good it I could not believe how funny
it was and just how many funny women are in it,
and it really like I still remember seeing that with
a group of my friends and walking out of that
theater like just like vibrating.
Speaker 4 (53:27):
I was so excited that it existed.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
It's fucking good. It's really really good, and we need another.
I keep thinking, has there been anything since bridesmaid of
that sort of scale comedy film with such a big ensemble.
They're amazing that I can't think of one.
Speaker 4 (53:43):
I'm sure there has been.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
It's probably.
Speaker 3 (53:47):
Hey, if you think I haven't pitched stuff for years,
as like, hey, I would like to make other bridesmaids
or something with that impact, because people always ask you any.
Speaker 1 (53:57):
On your IMDb it says untitled Taylor Thomlinson film. Does it?
Speaker 3 (54:03):
Yeah, see if that comes to fruition, Yeah, we're working
on it.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
Exciting. My advice probably needs a title. That would be
my only advice.
Speaker 4 (54:12):
Yeah, oh yeah. And you know it's so funny.
Speaker 3 (54:14):
Titles are so hard, but they're not hard for stand
up specials. My stand up specials have been so easy
to title, and everything else is so hard to title.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
Taylor Thomlinson, you've been beyond your delight. However, when you
were thirty five years old and you were in a
bit of a rush because you're a workaholic and you
were going from touring and you thought, well, wow, i'm touring,
I may as well pop into the city and do
a set of improv, which you said you wouldn't do.
But you're a real worker, and you were like, I
forgot to take my settlements, and you're in a rush,
(54:45):
so you grabbed your Fish one official capsule and you
put your zinc down. Zinc had gone in. You've done
your B twelves, you've done your him in a and
you were like, I've really got a go. You grabbed
your fish and your magnesium. You chuck them in, and
then they both got stuck in your throat and no
one was around, and you were like and you couldn't
(55:07):
reach your mobile which was over there, and you collapsed
on the floor. And then your agent's twelve hours later,
were like, Tenny's not making money for us. It's been
twelve hours she made money for us. This doesn't seem right.
I'm furious. They're like, something's up. And they called me
and I was wondering about with a coffin, you know
what I'm like, And I go, oh, check in on there.
(55:27):
I'm in the area, and I come in your house.
You are not only dead, but the thing has trapped
so much you have expanded. You're like the air that
has got caught has just expanded and expanded, and there's
so much more of you than I'm expecting. And I'm like,
oh fuck, So I have to get axe and start
chopping you up, chopping you up, chopping you into little
(55:49):
bits to try and get you all into the coffin.
It's black airware, bits of you ever ever, all over
your place. Say sorry, but Dustin says he's going to
clean it up later. Anyway, I grab all your bits
stuff in the coffin. It's jammed. There's really only enough
room in that coffin. Barely enough room in the coffin.
But I can slip one DVD in the side for
you to take across to the other side. And on
(56:10):
the other side, it's movie night every night. What film
are you taking to show the people of Matcha Heaven
on the other side when it is your movie night,
Taylor Tomlinson, Matcha Matcher.
Speaker 4 (56:20):
I mean Singing in the Rain? Am I allowed to
see Singing in the Rain?
Speaker 1 (56:23):
Great? Okay, I believe. I believe it's already there. But
no one is complaining about a rewatch of Singing in
the Rain.
Speaker 4 (56:30):
They like, we saw this one. You wasted a trip
to Heaven.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
Send that back. She's got more work to do. And
the agents are like, yes please, Taylor thomins In, is
there anything else you would like people to look out
for to watch your Netflix specials eg or other things?
Speaker 4 (56:48):
Yeah, March of specials. They're both on Netflix.
Speaker 3 (56:50):
I am on Tour Forever and always t Tomcomedy dot
Com for shows. I don't know when this comes out,
but I'm probably coming to your city.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
All right, Taylor, thanks for your time, what pleasure.
Speaker 4 (57:03):
Thank you so much. This is so fun.
Speaker 1 (57:04):
Have a good death. Good night.
Speaker 2 (57:13):
So that was a rewind classic with Taylor Tomlinson. Please
be sure to check out the Patreon page at patreon
dot com slash Brett Goldstein where you get extra chat
and video and otherwise. If you fancy leaving a note
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and way more interesting to read for everyone involved. Thank
(57:34):
you so much to Taylor for greatness and presence on
the podcast. Thanks to Screbius, Pip and the Distraction Pieces Network.
Thanks too. And this is where Brett thanks me for
editing and producing the podcast, so I will say it
is a great pleasure. Thanks to iHeartMedia and Will Ferrell's
Big Money Players Network for hosting it. Thanks to Adam
Richardson for the graphics and Lisa Lydam for the photography.
(57:55):
We will be back next week with another rewind classic.
But that is it for now. Brett and I and
all of us have films to be buried with. I
hope you're all very well in the meantime, have a
lovely week, take some deep breaths, and now more than ever,
be excellent to each other.
Speaker 1 (58:48):
M
Look out.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It's only films to be buried with Rewind Classic season. Hello,
(00:50):
there is films to be buried with Crewe. My name
is Buddy Peace. I'm a producer and editor, a DJ
and music maker, a showerlin shadow boxer, and for intro
and outropper. I'm temporarily standing in for your regular host
and proud creator of this podcast, mister Brett Goldstein. As
m F. Doom once said, Yo, y'all can't stand right
(01:10):
here in his right hand was your man's worst nightmare
loud enough to burst his right ear drum close range.
The game is not only dangerous, but it's most strange.
Tell that to Michael Douglas MTh Doom, I think you'd
find a speed agree from the guy. Every week britainvites
a guest on. He tells them they've died and then
talks to them about their life through the medium of film. However,
(01:32):
this week we are revisiting an earlier episode of the
podcast while Brett recharges the podcast batteries and retreats to
the fortress of solitude for a moment or two in
this bridge between the seasons. This Rewind is from February second,
twenty twenty three, originally episode two hundred and thirty three,
featuring the wonderful comic Taylor Tomlinson, who is a regular
(01:52):
face on the Netflix comedy special Scene and since the
time of recording, has had another special released. So if
this is your first time hearing Taylor, you have a
huge amount of binging ahead of you and should definitely
also check for live shows in your vicinity. I will
take this opportunity to also remind you that Brett has
a Patreon page for the podcast, upon which you get
a bonus section on every episode with a secret from
(02:14):
each guest, more questions, and a video of each episode
which looks all nice and fresh and it's just nice
to see faces talking. So if you're of a supporting
nature and feel like some extras from this show, you'll
find them all there. So that is it for now.
Let's get you settled in for a revisit of a
wonderful episode with the brilliant Taylor Tomlinson. Catch you at
(02:34):
the end for a quick sign off, But for now,
please enjoy this flashback to episode two hundred and thirty
three of Films to Be Buried with.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Hello and welcome to Films to be buried with It
is me Brett Ghodstein and I enjoined today by an actor,
a writer, a producer, a TikToker, a body rocker, a
last comic standing a, a Netflix superstar, and genuinely one
of the greatest stand ups that we have working today.
(03:10):
She's an absolute mind blower. I cannot believe we've got
her on the show. Can you believe it? I can't.
Is she here? She is? Well, she speaks, so you
better believe it. Kid, here we go. It's only she's here.
It is taking the toubleingsude.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I was drunk so hard not to laugh over very extensive,
dishonest intro.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
How are you? What fair treat?
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I'm great? How are you?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Good?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
To see you?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Good to see you. We met very briefly at the
improv once are your favorite gig at the improv?
Speaker 4 (03:46):
I met you at Largo?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Oh yeah, we did Lago and then we did improv
with you. And did we do the impron Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yeah we did?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Okay, and you are an astonishing comedian. I think your
last Netflix special is incredible, and I also think you
do the thing that puts you in the top ten
category that is really funny. De'ctually funny, excellent funny, but
also such a worker as in jukes on jokes on
jokes on jokes. Every line has forty jokes in it.
(04:16):
You're fucking good at it. You're very very good.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Oh that's so nice.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
And I was thinking about it because I remember I
wondered if you felt this or feel this like you
started young and you had your first special at twenty five,
and I know comics and I know people, and I
know that that is that puts you in a position
of like, who's this fucking kid? How dare she? Which
is why I always I wondered if like your sort
(04:43):
of work ethic came just naturally that's how you always are,
or if it was like I really need to prove
myself because people are going to be like, who's this
fucking child having a go? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
No, Oh, it absolutely comes from that right in her
dialogue is who's this fucking kid?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
All the time? Because yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I was sixteen when I started, and so for years
and I'm sure, Look, I think anybody who's successful in
this business knows that there are a lot of reasons
why people get opportunities, and like, I'm sure me being
younger helped me get certain opportunities, and so you just
try to work hard and be worthy of them when
you get them. But oh my god, yeah, I was
(05:21):
so scared that everyone was going to be like this sucks,
and she's got it because she's a child and this
was a fluke and we're never going to let her
do anything again. So I was really glad when they
gave me another one. And I felt like this one
was like, okay, let's like prove it that were actually
like one of the guys, one of the comedians.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I mean, you're beyond Do you think when you get oh,
you're just stuck coasting because you'll be like, yeah, oh no,
I have to to work hard. I deserve to make
make them out.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I certainly helped it. I mean it hasn't happened yet.
I would have thought that I could coast by when
I was younger. I thought, once I have a Netflix
special all Coast, And then I got a Netflix special
and I was like, well, I can't coast because that
might have been a fluke. And I got the second
one and I was like, well, now I can coast,
and now I'm like, no, it's never been harder to coast.
I feel like you have to be doing everything now
(06:11):
you can never coast, like, especially with social media being
what it is, Like I have a social media manager
who's you know, she's twenty four and she's amazing and great,
and she's always telling me to post every day, and
I'm like, I think I'm like one.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Of the people who's doing a good job.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
At this, and I feel like I don't do enough,
Like I'm writing jokes that are just for the internet,
and then I have my hour and then I have,
you know, sort of like the next hour started before
we film that one, so we have a jumping off point.
Like you just have to produce so much material and
so much content now in a way that you just
never had to before. Really depressed, I'm so sorry. I mean, yeah,
(06:51):
I'm coasting a good time out here.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
My question to you is I didn't see it at
the time, and I'm into interested in everyone on this,
Like when you do startup, do you get nervous? I
mean you do it all the time, but do you
get nervous before a gig? Or is it easy stepping
on stage every day?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
I think it depends what it is and where it is.
I mean, I don't get nervous most of the time anymore.
When I was younger, I had really bad stage fright.
I would get like nauseous for a week.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
It was.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
It was really tough when I was younger, especially now,
like having an audience. It is so nice to walk
out on stage for people who paid to specifically see you, Like,
you know, it's so different than going out and winning
over people who are just there for a comedy or
for someone else. Like, It's much much easier in terms
of nerves. So I don't get nervous so much anymore.
(07:42):
I'll get nervous for weird things, like if it's a
show I've been nervous about, it's usually because like you know,
my manager and agents came to see the new Hour,
or I have a friend there you know that doesn't
see me perform very much.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Or that's awful, isn't it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
I get more nervous performing in town.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I get more nervous going to like the comedy store,
the comedy seller because of just god, I hope everyone
here thinks I'm good and funny.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Like on the road, you don't really get nervous, really,
I mean, if this is bad because.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
I'm going to see it except for these twelve hundred people.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Sorry, sorry, guys.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
What about your last special, which is truly fucking brilliant.
It was all about a belief. The entire hour was
about meant to have basically a.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Lot of it was Yeah, not the whole thing, but
a lot of it.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, as a theme, and it's really really good, really
you know, wise and really funny. And I wondered if
that was an early choice, like I'm going to do
an hour about this, I want to talk about this stuff,
but whether that just came from I've got lets of
stuff that seems to be on this theme and then
became an hour.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Yeah, No, it wasn't a plan at all.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I mean, I think for my first special, Quarter Life Crisis,
that was very much like I took more serious jokes
out and saved them because I wanted that hour to
just be about being in your twenties and be sort
of thematically consistent. And then the second hour sort of
just evolved until it became like the first half is
(09:16):
about mental health and grief, I think, or maybe even
forty minutes of it is because I knew I wanted
to do jokes about losing my mom as a kid.
But I didn't know how much of it was gonna
be in the Hour. I think it it just expanded
until it was more than I expected it to be.
And then I got diagnosed with bipolar two like six
months before we filmed it, and initially yeah, yeah, So
(09:40):
initially I was like, I'm not gonna talk about this
on stage at all. And then I was, you know,
working on the Hour, and I think I tried to
joke about it maybe like Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
I was just like, ah, this is just a new one,
let me see. And it did really well.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
And I just tend to write about stuff that's happening
to me, So it just sort of happened. It moved
up in the hour, and by the time we were
filming it, I was like, oh, this is like four
minutes in, we're getting into this.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
It was very I mean both specials I've done and
I'm sure this one will be the same way. Sort
of the like five months before it came out, something
big happened in my life that sort of changed the
entire direction of the Hour, like changed a big portion
of it in a big way, which is I think
the really cool thing about stand up is you just
never know what life's going to throw out you if
(10:28):
you are a very personal comedian, like, I don't know
if you feel like this. I feel like you're pretty personal, right,
You're not like topical and observational so much as you're personal.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Right, I'm pretty personal. I was going to ask you,
but then I thought, actually, maybe you can't answer this
for obvious reasons. But is there anything that you won't
talk about in the stage. I'm guessing you're not gonna
tell me what that would be because you don't talk
about it in a podcast, But or are you, in
theory open to talking about anything you know?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
That's interesting because lately I've been less willing to talk
about certain things. I think when I was younger, I
was like, I will write jokes about anything, and over
the years I've gotten better, and luckily I got better
at this before I was doing specials about like if
I write jokes about you know, an X or something,
(11:14):
I will disguise it so you can't tell or figure
out who it is, or it's not too personal or
too pointed. I always say, like I dated someone years ago,
Like it's it's never like I just went through a breakup,
like I try to be sensitive about that. I mean,
before the last special came out, I sent my aunt
all the jokes about losing my mom, which you know,
(11:35):
none of the jokes were about my mother specifically, but
I didn't want her to see it and feel like
I was being disrespectful or poking fun at you know,
the greatest tragedy of her life, as well as mine,
because I just don't.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
I don't think a.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Joke is worth your relationships, Like, I just don't think
it is. And yeah, there's certain things now that I'm like, no,
I don't know, maybe we don't have to get into that,
or I've learned to wait on certain things and go,
you know what, let's just see how we feel about
this in six months and then hopefully talk about it
from a more balanced, mature perspective. Because when you first
(12:10):
rate jokes about a breakup or a difficult parental relationship
or what have you, it comes out much harsher.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I think, then, yes.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Because you're coming from such a hurt place.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
I mean, have you found that I don't know how
really like same question to you.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I guess, well, everything that I My first two Standard
Sized were incredibly personal, but they were also about things
that were quite a long time ago, so I'd left
enough time that it felt like, a I can make
proper jags about this without it being too sad or
too duck. But also the people involved are now far
(12:46):
enough away from it aasin I'm disguising everyone. But still,
you know, I always remember going I won't name these people.
I hope this is okay. I went to the EDWINND Festival,
which I went to a lot. I always think about this.
There were two shows. They were two basically dead mum shows.
They were a show a guy talking about his mummy
dad and the guy talking about his Mommy's like both shows,
(13:07):
and one of them was quite recent and one of
them was long ago. And the one that was long
ago was a great show. It was very moving and
it was very funny and it was great and I
felt as an audience watching it, I was like, this
is really good because he's doing all this quite deep,
difficult stuff, but I feel safe here because I can
tell he's okay. Ultimately he's okay. And the other guy
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it was too raw, and I guess, you know, you
could argue, well, that's interesting. It was interesting, but I
felt in danger as an audience. I felt worried for him.
I sort of wanted to go are you like I kept,
I almost wanted to like, heckle, are you okay? Because
it didn't feel I always I felt like, you're not
ready to talk about this. I get that you're doing it,
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but you haven't processed any of this enough to make
a good comedy show. What we're doing here is feels unsafe,
feels like, yeah, I'm worried about I'm really worried about you.
So I'm not sure this is a good shot, you
know what I mean? Yeah, but there's also you know,
you always hear that Tignaitaro set where she's just found
out she's got cancer is an amazing set, and that's immediate,
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you know, Like I guess depends, Yeah, yeah, it depends
if you're a genius or not. Helps if you.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Helps, if you're a genius like Tignaitaro. Yeah, no, I
think that's one hundred percent true. I again, not to
harp on my Dead Mom material, but the Dead Mom
jokes and look at you like a few of them
I had tried to do when I was, you know,
twenty one, twenty two, and I just hadn't gone to
enough therapy and I hadn't worked through enough of it,
and I really did think I was fine, and I
would get frustrated with audiences. And also part of it
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is like I was just too young, like nobody believed
I was okay.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I wasn't okay with anything.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I was like a mess, And even now I try
to be respectful of that when I'm working on material.
If I feel like like there was some material I
was doing about a difficult relationship in my family that
still is very painful for me, and I had turned
it into material, and some nights that felt like justice,
and then other nights it felt like, oh my god,
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why did I even bring this up right now?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Like not because it wouldn't go well.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
It was all working, but it was a lot for
me to act like I was okay when I'm just
not yet. And I'm like, you can talk about this later,
like these are evergreen jokes that you can do in
a year or two or never. It's also okay to
just never do certain jokes. But right now you are,
as you said, too raw, and I think you just
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have to. As you mature as a performer, I think
you get better at recognizing that about yourself and in
the same way you like learn to live with anxiety
and depression. You just go, oh, I wish I didn't
feel a way right now, but I do. So we're
gonna be gentle and wait so we don't feel a way.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
My first stand upisode, which was about eight period of
my life, that stuff happened, and I remember I always
think about the fact that, in my early preview of
it did the hour maybe for the third time, and
afterwards a woman from the audience came up to me
and just hugged me and said, I'm so sorry that
happened to you. And I really thought, oh, you know,
that was many be a comedy shot, and it was
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a real lesson in like, oh, I've sold this completely
wrong to audience. They feel I have to twiddle this
to make it much more safe to laugh about, you
know what I mean. Like she just thought it was
a dramatic monologue about a terrible incident, and.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
You know, yeah, you don't want I'm sorry that happened.
You want thank you for talking about that. It made
me feel better. That's what you want. You want, thank you. No,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
It's a terrible reaction audience with the stuff you've done
that's like the difficult stuff your mum and the bipolar thing.
Do you feel because I'm also curious I hear both
sides of this. Do you feel like it's therapeutic, like
it's helpful to you that you that you talk about this,
that you process it through comedy, or do you ever
think that by talking about it so much and doing
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it as stand up it makes it work because you're
reembedding it, reembedding it every time it's coming up.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Honestly, that's a great question, because there were points on
the last tour, as I was gearing up to film
Look at You the second special, where I was like,
I cannot do this material anymore.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Not because I wasn't proud of it.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I really loved that material and I was really proud
of it, but it was emotionally very draining to do
every night, and I was doing it twice a night
a lot of nights, and then you know, meeting people
after shows that were bringing up their mental health struggles
and their experiences with losing family members, and it was
just really heavy. It was just really heavy to sort
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of brace myself every night to get into that material
and like we're talking about make the audience feel comfortable
with it, because when I was younger, when I was
like a teenager and I was going on stage, people
were nervous for me because I was so young, Like
people were scared for me because I was so young. Yeah,
so I had to learn how to they're already nervous.
So I had to learn how to make feel comfortable
just by like carrying myself a certain way. And I
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felt that way with that last hour of material too,
is I was like, oh, I have to really I
have to really hit the mark, Like I have to
really stick the landing on this stuff so that people
aren't uncomfortable. And it was just a lot more taxing
than like my current hour of material save for that
like six minute chunk that I just took out really recently,
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just like this month, maybe last month, but the first
couple months of the tour and over the summer, I
was doing that material and it was sort of towards
the end, and I thought it was interesting and it
was like a little darker and sadder, but I was like,
I'm just not I just don't want to dread this
part of the show.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Every night.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I want like a break, like I just want to
do an hour that's lighter and easier and still very personal,
I think, and is vulnerable and is about certain fears
I have right now.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
But it is it is a lot, a lot lighter
is on purpose.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yeah, great, that's that sounds good. Tricky, isn't It is
tricky because it is Also it's the good stuff. It's
always the stuff. The stuff you dread is always the
best stuff.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
I know, it always is. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
The other thing that I think is very nice about
you is that Dustin Nicholson, who is a very lovely,
very funny comedian, seems you always have him as you
open it and you travel with him? Is that true? Instagram? True?
And have you ninne him forever? I just loved that
you're always with your friend on these things. That seems
like a lovely relationship.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yes, it's made a huge difference. I met Dustin like
ten years ago, which is funny because we were both
a few years into stand up.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
But I was, you know, I was in college.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
I was like nineteen, and he was my age now
is about ten years older than me, and he had like,
you know, three kids under ten, and he was married,
and I was like a child, like we're very different
places and we weren't like friends right away, but we
were doing stand up at this time in San Diego,
and over the years, you know, I started in churches.
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He was doing some churches as well, and he was
just one of the only people I knew who was
like doing every type of gig the same way I was.
Where like we were both doing clubs, colleges, churches, corporate events,
like we were both doing everything, and again we were
both in San Diego and just kind of naturally over
the years. I think a big turning point was probably
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when I was I think I was twenty three at
the time, twenty two or twenty three, and I got
fired from opening for a church comedian. And after they
called me to fire me, they took me off a
bunch of tour dates as the opener, and they called
dustin immediately after and gave him all of the work
that I'd gotten fired from. Why he file because I
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had tweeted a joke with any window in it.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Oh disgusting.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I know, it was rough, but it was it was
good because it was like the last sort of churchy
gig that I was still doing and after that I
got to be like I'm never doing these again. Like
we're just hard hard stop on these. But like, I
don't think Dustin I really became close friends until maybe
like four years ago.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
And yeah, he's just like he's the best.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
He's like him and his wife Melissa are just like great,
great people, and like he's really like my big brother.
I have younger siblings, but I've been the oldest, and
he's really like honest with me and looks out for
me and is gives me a lot of shit, and like,
you know, it's just a really good example of like
a really good human being in a great relationship and
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a really good parent. And it's good for me to
be with a friend on the road, but it's also
good for me to be with a good person all
the time.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, you know, Taylor, Fuck, I've forgotten to taste something. Shit.
I should have told you this up top before we
got into all of this. I feel what a mess.
I really should have said this to you. You to do.
I suppose I should have said it earlier. I'll just
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I'll just say you've died. You're dead.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Oh my god, I forgot you're dead, you know, it's embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I I choked on a supplement. I actually choked a supplement,
which is, you know, the iron taking something to live longer.
But no, I was. I was in a hurry, and
I took it. You know, sometimes you throw a few back.
Because it was fish oil and magnesium. It was too big, guys,
and I thought I could do it, and I just
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I flew too close to the sun and I.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Fish it's too big.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
You got to really focus, you got to breathe through
one fish oil. And so the fact that I tried
to double up is I have no one to blame
but myself. And luckily I'm making enough money on the
road that they found me in my apartment within twenty
four hours because my agents were like, why isn't she
answering our emails?
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Otherwise it might have been a week. Who knows.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
But you're right, why is she working?
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Yeah, that's exactly correct. Everyone else has been. She's depressed.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Ye how old were you when you died?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I was, I was. I was thirty five. I was
in my prime. I was at my peak.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
You were just about to start coasting as well.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
I was just about to start coasting.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
It's true, and h You know, my entire team was
really was really torn because, on the one hand, you know,
you can't make money going forward.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
For them, but she left the game.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
My my specials went crazy. Everything got so popular once
I was dead. Yeah, the best thing that ever happened.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Delighted. They're they're at the funeral, like mopping their tears
and quietly looking down at their fighting still number one
D Yeah, we'll miss d D. Tragic.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Netflix put it under dead Pan Comedies.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
But do you worry about death? Dayla? Tell me so?
Speaker 4 (24:04):
I do?
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Yeah, I think about death all the time. Do you
think about death a lot? I mean, podcast, I would assume.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Do you think about it? Yeah? Do you think about
it in a negative context?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
I think I get really scared of death, But then
I go, I'm just as scared of life as I
am of death. And then sometimes I get so scared
of dying that I get exhausted and I go, am,
I just gonna be scared of dying the whole time.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Let's just do it right now. This is this is exhausting.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah, man, Yeah, what do you think happens when you die?
Speaker 4 (24:35):
I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I think that if anything does happen we're not going
to figure it out. I'm certainly not. I didn't finish college,
you know, I have no idea what's going on after
all this. I stand to this on my jab. Do
we have a scientist working on that. I just we're
never going to I mean, I would love it. If
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there's something else, that would be great. I think reincarnation
sounds very beautiful. I mean, I would love it if
there's something else. I think there's just as likely. It's
just as likely that there's something else as that there's nothing.
I really don't, Yeah, I don't have like strong opinions
about it. I grew up so religious that like certainty,
any sort of certainty around an afterlife or lack thereof,
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is like repulsive to me. Like, you don't know, none
of us know.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Was there an incident, was it a general thing or
was there a specific thing that made you go, I'm
not into religion anymore.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I mean, I think it was very gradual, because when
you grow up in it and your whole family is
very much a part of it, Like it's really hard
to take yourself out of it because everyone around you
is in it. So you feel like there's something wrong
with you. If you can't buy into it or feel
the things you're supposed to feel. But like, honestly, when
my mom died, I was eight, and everyone was like,
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we'll see her again, and I'm.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Like, I don't feel that way. I don't know if
that's true.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
And that was sort of the first instance of me,
I don't think I feel how I'm supposed to feel
that everybody's talking about and I don't feel like And
I went in and out of this over the years,
of like feeling like God was there for me or
talking to me or whatever, and then feeling like I
don't feel anything. And I think once I got to
I actually think once I started doing stand up and
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I started hanging out with a lot of different people
and not just like my suburban Christian town, it really
opened my eyes to the fact that there are plenty
of people who never even think about religion. They don't
think about God, they don't like it doesn't just eat
away at them. And I was always taught in church
that everybody has this little like voice in their head
that they're just ignoring, and that's God and that's faith,
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and you either listen to or you don't. Then I
got older and I was like, there's plenty of people
who don't have that at all, and it's because it
wasn't you know ingrained in them.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Can ask me one more question, which I'm sure you've
talked about many times, but it is interesting that you
were so young when you did this, if you could briefly,
why did you start stand up at sixteen? What made
you go I'm a stand up. I wanted they stand
up to you. You know.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Oh, it's not a cool story.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I took a sta I took a stand up comedy
class from a church Communitian, which was a class that
my dad wanted to take, and he told me later
he like, thought I would write for him.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
That's how it started. Yeah, that's how I started.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Doing stand up and it turned out you were good.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
It turned out.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Did your dad do it with you? Of course?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Oh yeah, he did the class with me. Yeah, he
did the class with me, but he didn't do a
stand up for anything else.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
How was his Oh god, I can't bear it. Okay, Well,
listen up, Taylor. Good news. There's a heaven and you
are in it, and everyone it's very excited to see it.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Hell yeah, oh heaven.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, yeah, this Heaven's great. It's filled with your favorite thing.
What's your favorite thing?
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Marcha?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
It is filled with matcha. It is matcha up there.
There's matter on the wolves, there's matter on the floors,
matcha match everywhere, and there are a match of people
when they walk around and they're very excited to meet you.
They huge fans. They love all your work. They want
to talk to you about your life, but they want
to talk about it through film. Isn't that weird? The
first thing they ask you is, what's the first film
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you remember seeing? Tyler Tummy.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I think the first movie I remember seeing ever, I'm
gonna say, was Aladdin, and I think I watched.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
It like every day when I was very young.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
So it's one of those things where I'm like, I
don't even know if I remember seeing it or if
I was just told that I watched it every day, Okay,
and so maybe that was it. I remember seeing Toy Story.
It's just a lot of Disney, a lot of Disney
movies when I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
That's not bad. Yeah, did you think I love this?
I want to be in movies?
Speaker 4 (28:42):
No, I really didn't. I think I did.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Maybe in like middle school, I did for a bit,
but once I started doing stand up, I was like, oh,
this is awesome. This is way better than everything else.
Like I liked acting because I like being on stage.
And then once I figured out that you could do
stand up on stage.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Like, oh, this is amazing.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I don't have to I don't have.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
To rely on anybody. This is this is great.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
But no, when I was a kid, I don't even
think I understood that you could be in movies until
I was like whatever, ten or something, and then I
was like, why am I not in Harry Potter?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Because I'm not British? Right, that was what I got it.
The first movie I remember seeing in theaters and I
only remember because I got taken out of it is
I remember being in the theater watching Hercules, and I
remember being carried out because I got scared pretty.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Immediately, scared of the blue thing.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Yeah, it's I mean that movie is about hell.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Oh yeah, that's not good.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
It like opens with hell and you're like, I'm five, Yeah, exactly,
it's very scared.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
That's sweet. What's the film that scared you the most?
That wasn't Hercules? Do you like being scared?
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I hate being scared I hate scary movies. I'm not
interested in them at all. I have a couple answers
to this. So there is a movie called Nocturnal Animals.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Have you seen this movie?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yes, this movie.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
It has Amy Adams and Jake Jaillenhall and Aaron Taylor
Johnson in it. I don't think it's actually happened to characters.
It's what's happening in the novel that they're talking about. Yeah,
and it's these guys take this family on the side
of the road and they take the mom and the
daughter and they kidnap them and drive off of them,
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and then the husband who's Jake Jalenhall like, finds their
bodies later. And it fucked me up so bad because
it's not like a supernatural thing. It's like a thing
that could happen, like all that shit with like murder
and all this. Like I just can't. I can't watch
stuff like that because it'll it'll fuck me up. So
that fucked me up. But it was a really good movie.
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But I saw that when it came out in theaters
by myself, and I was like, who can.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Never watch this again?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
And then a friend of mine told me about Hereditary
I never saw Hereditary, but they explained the plot in
great detail, and that scared the shit out of me.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
That's for a while, fucked me up. Hereditary really, Oh dude.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
I didn't even see it. I didn't even see it,
and it sucked me up.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
It's worse. It's even worse if you see it. That
is a fucking scary feel. Why do you think so
many comedians and I have lots of comedians on it,
I'd say in the far majority, some really love horror,
but most hate horror. Have your right, I hate horror.
I don't want to be scared hated. Really, yeah, so
many comedians. I mean, I assume it's controlling. But the
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reason I find it slightly surprising is because horror and
comedy are the same thing, right.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
I think the control is a great insight. I think
it probably is, like you have so much control as
a stand up comedian, Like it's it's hard to do
anything else, it's hard to write screenplays and like go
through all this like it's exhat You're just like none
of this has to take this long? Like you know,
I write stuff and do it every night, right, Like
we don't have to what's all this bullshit, We're gonna go.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Why are we discussing?
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Yeah, yeah, why are we discussing it? Let's just do it.
Come on. So that's really interesting.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Yeah, I think that if you like being a comedian,
you like having control of your surroundings and feelings and career,
and to give in to a horror movie is to
feel out of control.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah horrendous.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Yeah, you're probably right. But also, like, do most people
like horror movies? Like, is this specific to comedians? Do
you think most people do?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
They do? It's it's it's the only genre other than
kind of big marvel films that is keeping cinema alive. Like,
horror films is what people go to the cinema to
say consistently, so interesting. It's like the only sort of
low budget films that crowds will go and see is
horror films. Fascinating.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Wow, that's really fascinating.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yeah, that movie Megan is like doing really well right now,
and I want to.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Go see it.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Smile was huge.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Oh yeah, Smile is huge.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
I've been asking people if Meghan is super scary, if
I could handle it, I think it can happen because
I'm like, what's the I'm like what's the what's all
the fuss about?
Speaker 4 (33:02):
I keep hearing about this. I want to be a
part of it.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Like do you do you go out to the theater
and see what's out most of the time.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, yeah, I love horror films, but I also realized
with horror films, it's like it's like drugs with me,
Like I love them until they're too hard and then
it like Hereditary really fucked me up, and I think
I regretted seeing it because it sort of ruined me
for a week. I couldn't I was sort of genuinely
scared in my own house, and I thought, why do
you put yourself through this?
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Yeah, that's how I feel after virtually every horror movie.
But I like hearing about them, so I always get
people to tell me everything that happens in it.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
I'm like, oh, that sounds good, but I'll never watch it.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
That makes sense. Well about crying, Are you a crier?
What's the film that made you cry thet.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
My I've had it.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
I've had movies make me cry a lot. The first
movie I remember crying really hard in was when I
was a kid.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Was Bridge to Terabithia. Fuck yeah, really depressing film.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Be like you know ten and you're like a kid
can drown. That's fucked up. That really I remember crying
really hard in a theater at that one. And then God,
I remember I watched Kramer Versus Kramer for the first
time a few years ago and that made me cry
pretty hard. And a more recent I think the most
recent example I could think of was something that made
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me cry hard was Soul. Soul fucked me up. Oh yeah,
it's so good. It's so good, it really is. That
was more in a nice way.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
I guess.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Are you comfortable crying?
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Oh yeah, I'm too comfortable crying.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Are you Are you uncomfortable crying?
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Oh yeah, crying in front of people? Absolutely? No way, no,
thank you. If if ted less said the thing, it's
the vulnerability is a terrible thing and you must always
hide it. Right, that's the message.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
That's what I got from it. Yeah, that's what I learned.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Good. Yeah, I think I just did it. What about
what's a film that you love? People don't like it,
it's not critically acclaim, but you love it unconditionally. You
don't care what it thinks.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
I think I didn't know until I was an adult
that this movie is considered very bad.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
I think it's good. Still is a hook?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
I fucking love Hook.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Hook is fucking good, right. I think Hook's a good movie.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
It's a great movie. I think the first twenty minutes
of Hook is Summer Spielberg's best work. I love it's killer.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
It's so good and as terrible reviews, and I didn't
when I got to be an adult. I don't remember
even why I looked it up. I think I was
just gonna rewatch it with someone and we looked it
up on ron to minutes.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Or something, and we're like, is this considered a bad film?
Speaker 1 (35:42):
The worst thing about Hook? I'm sure I've said this
on here before, so apologies if I have. Spielberg thinks
it's bad. He's rock what he's like when he did
like a career chat. He's like, you know the one
film I think I sort of fucked up with Ho.
I'm like, no, you didn't, No, you didn't, Steven, It's brilliant.
Oh my god, did you see the Fableman? I did?
I saw it. I saw it just a couple of
(36:03):
days ago.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
So did I did you like it?
Speaker 1 (36:05):
I did like it? You don't? I like more? Hook?
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Me too, so did I.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
I thought the Fablements was was very well done. I
also thought it was very self indulgent. I was like,
we sho, it's no Hook.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
It's very it's very good, but it's not.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
No.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
I agree, I'm not gonna watch it like I watched Hook.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
I'm like, if he sat down and said he was
ashamed of Hook, like what are you?
Speaker 4 (36:31):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Like that's what was him reckoning with it? It needed
a scene where he goes, I think Hook's not very good,
and his favorable parents go, it's brilliant. It's so good.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I thought it was so good. I mean, the cast
is so good, like it's the it's really really good.
It's upsetting to me. It's so validating that you also
feel that way, because I was scared to be like, no,
that's a bad movie.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
I can't. I try to describe the bit of the
end to something and I couldn't get through it because
I was going to cry. I was trying to debscribe
what his what happened. I mean, I haven't even finished
the sentence. But his happy thought is I can't bear it.
It's too much.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
I kid I know it was you.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
I know, Jesus, I'm gonna have to going to cry
any any spoils off.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
God, it's so good. Oh God, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
I would just want to bring up I think about
I think about the food fight scene all the time.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Yeah, and briefly, I mean, she she wis. What a movie.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
It's so good. It's got everything in it. I mean
truly for all the generations. I was like, this movie
is everything. There's something for everybody in this It's so good.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Something really, the build up when they go to London
and he's doing the speech and the the awesome boys
stand up and Blake kisses to Maggie Smith and the
window it's so creepy, like, oh, what a movie. So
you're a plan, Peter, great, Phil, It's so good. It's
so good.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Oh my god. Oh so really, if you.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Understand completely, okay, what is a film that you used
to love but you have watched recently and gone, I
don't like this anymore. But whatever reason that may be.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
So when I was a kid, my parents had maybe
like thirty DVDs that they just kept in their bedroom
that I would usually go to if I got sick
and I was home alone from school, and I remember
there was one movie there that I loved when I
was a kid, and I tried to rewatch it as
an adult, and I'm like, this is a bad movie,
but I still think it looks really fun to have made.
(38:45):
Which now, if I don't like a movie now as
an adult, I go, but this was probably really fun
to make.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Like that always saves it for me.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Is like thinking about the actors having a really fun time.
There's this movie called Down with Love with Renezelweger and
Iwan McGregor. It's like a very campy like set in
the nineteen fifties, like just like it feels like a musical,
but it isn't at all.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
There's no music in it.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
So Rene Zellwegger's character has like this like glow up
and then writes this book about how you don't need
to fall in love and women just need to have
sex like men have sex, and it like blows up
and it's this huge success. And then Iwan McGregor is
this like chauvinistic men's magazine journalist and he tricks her
(39:35):
into falling in love with him to like write an
expose proving like this author who is trying to tell
women they don't need love. Is gonna I'm gonna make
her fall in love with me by pretending to be
somebody else. And then like the twist at the end
is that she used to be his secretary before she
(39:56):
was blonde, like, which is like ugly.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
I guess what he didn't know, and he didn't know,
and she like.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Did the whole thing to like win him over and
make him fall in love with her, because obviously he
falls in love with her back.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
I think Sarah Paulson's in it, David Hyde, Piers.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
It's like when I was a kid, I like loved
it and I tried to watch as adult. I'm like,
this is not a good movie, but it's it's like fun.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
I can't Yeah, it's not good. I was like, this
really doesn't.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Sounds like so it's like I had to leave the
guy in ten days backwards.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yeah, it's kind of like that, but in like the
nineteen fifties.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Right, I think I'd love it.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Honestly, you might love it. You just kind of have
to like buy into it. Yeah, but it's like cheesy
and silly, like it has a spot in my heart
of course. But if I watched it as an adult,
I would probably be like, yeah, maybe not. But as
a kid, I really really liked it a lot, and
I would watch it whenever I got sick.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
That's a great shout. And it's never come up with here.
That's a big shout. Ten points for that.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
I've never I've never met anybody who's ever seen it.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
What is the fil that means the mice to you?
Not necessarily the film itself is any good, but the
experience you had around seeing the film will always make
it important to you.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Well, the last Harry Potter movie came out when I
was a senior in high school, and so we all
went to go see like the midnight premiere of it.
When I was a kid, I read like the first
few books and they were really important to me. And
then my dad decided that they were satanic and that
I couldn't read them. And I somehow convinced him, you know,
years later, to let me go see the last movie
(41:29):
with all my friends, because it was like a senior thing.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
Like it was like, I'm like, it's just a memory.
I don't even care about Harry Potter anymore. So it
was like a.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Very triumphant trip and obviously like waiting for six hours
in line with all my friends from high school was
very fun and like you know, midnight premiers of movies,
like but yeah, besides Marvel, Like that's not like a
thing anyway.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
Do people still go to midnight premieres.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
With Marvel movie? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Probably, Yeah they did, Yeah they still do.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
That midnight previous if things still happen. I hope you
were still screaming at this great Hayo say to it.
As he watched, I was.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Just going, this is so much better than the Lord. No,
that was that was a big That was a big thing.
And then I saw the I saw the last Lord
of the Rings movie in theaters, which watching those as
a kid was like really important to me. And like
those those movies I remember those in like Star Wars
(42:24):
I kind of all watched around the same time, which
was like nine years old, and those were like the
first like behind the scenes things I had watched about filmmaking,
and that made me go, oh, I had no idea.
This was so hard, Like I had no idea how
much went into this, just how difficult it was to
get the first Star Wars movie made for so many reasons,
(42:44):
like at every step of the way is still something
I think about all the time. So yeah, I think
those two. I'm trying to think of a more recent example.
Otherwise all of my examples are gonna be from when
I was a child.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
Oh, I have one more.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
I saw La La land in theaters when I I
was living in LA and I really didn't like it.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
I really didn't like La at the time.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
And I went to go see it at this theater
down where you live that's now closed. It was the
Landmark Theater and I saw it like ten pm by myself.
I didn't know a ton about it. I just knew
it was the same guy who did Whiplash, which I
had loved. And I remember I saw it like an
empty theater at like ten pm, and I was like.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
Oh man, this is really nice. VBLA is not that bad.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
That's great.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
So's are mine?
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yeah, what's the film you most relate to? Taylor Tumlinson.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
Oh, gosh, I'm going to say this because it was
the book and both versions of the movie I think
I really love and it was important to me growing up.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
Was Little Women because I.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
Was the oldest of four and there's alway yeah, and
I think like every time you watch it. My brother,
my brother is Trance. But there's four of us all together. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
there's four of us all together, and I'm the oldest,
and so you're the probably. I mean, it's like I'm
not you know, nobody's I don't even know. I don't
(44:06):
even know, Like my brother's probably Joe. My other sisters
probably Meg because she's the most patient.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
And then I think, I don't think or no, maybe
she's more like Beth.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
And then me and my youngest sister are probably fighting
it out for we're probably an Amy Meg combo, both
of us, honestly, but everyone wanted to be Joe, but
you know, my brother's Joe.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
We're being honest.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Manuscripts.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
And I'm like, I wish that wasn't me, but that's
probably me, bry so petty. I think I'm Meg now.
I think I've matured into a Meg. But I was
probably probably an Amy when I was younger. I just
didn't realize, like, you're selfish, but I wasn't the youngest ever.
But yeah, that's uh, that's so much more fun than
like your sex and the City, Like which sex in
(44:53):
the City character are you is which little women sister?
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Are you? That's too great? Golics? I know, okay, aba guys,
this is the reason people cheating. What's the sexiest film?
You'd have the same time to tell me? Is it? Oh?
Speaker 4 (45:07):
This one I didn't have an answer to.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
I could not get out. I really couldn't think of one.
I can't think it, like, I really can't. I think
I'm a prude.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
I don't know your film has ever given you the
horn zero?
Speaker 3 (45:20):
I'm sure they have, but I don't know. Does everyone
just say magic Mike? But even that, it's like it's
coming so overtly sexual. That's I guess that's what I'm
thinking of, is like very sexy.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
I think all about Eve is very sexy. Actually that
sounds like sort of a that's.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
A hyper answer for why why is it all about sexy?
Speaker 3 (45:41):
I just think she's really sexy, and I think like
her being this like older, sort of complicated, like petty,
Like I think she's got so many great lines in it,
Like I remember like watching that made me feel like
maybe it's not that it's sexy, it's that it made
me feel like I could grow in because I don't
feel particularly sexy as a person. But I'm like, maybe
I can grow into being sexy if I'm like a
(46:03):
successful woman in show business into my forties and fifties.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
I like this plan for you, and then I have
to ask the question and I may see me and
you don't have one. But I'm furious. This is a
subcategory traveling bone is worrying. Why don't filmy found arousing
that you went and show you shit?
Speaker 3 (46:21):
That's easier? I think, Oh, okay, I don't think that's easy.
Oh I think that's so much easier. Oh that's I
think everyone has that. Like, but a movie that you're like,
this is a sexy film, I'm like, that's hard. That's
a really hard one because that feels more objective. Movies
that you were aroused by that you shouldn't have been.
I mean, where do you fucking start? That's an easy one.
(46:43):
How many people say Simba?
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Right?
Speaker 4 (46:44):
Everyone does? Everyone say Simba? Everyone says Simba.
Speaker 3 (46:48):
Another really basic one is, uh, not to do too
many Peter Pan movies. But the live action Peter Pan
movie that came out when I was a child. A
lot of women in my age bracket, that was like
a big one for them and that.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
With Hugh Jackman in it.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
No, No, it's the one with It's the dad from God. Oh,
Jason Isaacs. Yes, someone with Jason Isaacs and the blonde
kid that everyone was obsessed with who didn't act in
anything after that. And so you can't, you can't like
go watch his more recent work to feel better about it.
That's just a kid, and you I still do. I
(47:28):
have a joke about it where I go like, I
don't think children should be allowed to be actors because
when you're a kid, you watch these movies and they're
important to your sexual awakening, and then you can't rewatch
them as an adult because you just remember how hornet.
You get, like nostalgically horny, isn't it where you're like,
oh my god, I remember how I used to watch
this and now I see that this was a child.
(47:50):
But you're like, but I was a child, and you're like,
I know, but it's just I can't watch this ever again.
Why is he whispering? Yeah, you're like, why are he whispering?
It's like a scene where he's like spring to like
get her to come to Neverland, and I just remember
like as a kid, we were all just like.
Speaker 4 (48:05):
I don't know what's happening, but I'm feeling things.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Tale You've totally made up for the for the not
knowing what a sexy film is.
Speaker 4 (48:15):
Very I think it's easier. I know, I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
I don't have any So anyway, what is objectively, objectively
the greatest film of all time might not be your favorite,
but subjectively the.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
Greatest objectively, I'm gonna say Citizen Kane, which I'm sure
a lot of people have said, no enough people really
is number one on the AFI Top one hundred movies.
And the reason I'm going to say it is because
it's number one, which is, you know, very difficult to
live up to. I think and I watched it during
(48:49):
Quarantine because we were like, well, we should watch as
many movies on this list that we haven't seen now
that we have all this time, and it like blew
my mind how good it was. I'm like the fact
that this it feels so modern, Like that's what blew
me away about it. And the fact that you could
watch a movie that came out in nineteen forty and
(49:09):
go this is this feels so relevant and modern and
current and impressive was like crazy to me, and that
you'd watch it because it was number one on the
Greatest Movies of All Time lists, and you would still go, Okay, yeah, no,
I get it.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
Yeah, it's legit, isn't it. I'm always delighted when you
watch fans of that and you go, oh, it's not boring.
I was expecting this to be boring. I assume that's
why you alway said it was great. Yeah, boring. Well yeah, yeah,
it is fucking great that film. It really is good,
well done, well done, it's so good. Good for him.
What is the film? You could? Or have watched The
(49:50):
Mice to Iver and over again.
Speaker 3 (49:51):
I've watched sims Insensibility, Angley's Sense of Sensibility.
Speaker 4 (49:55):
I love that film so many times, do you?
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Oh, my god, fucking great film. It's so good.
Speaker 4 (50:01):
Yeah, that's one of my favorite movies.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
And I've watched it so many times since I since
I was a kid, and I just think Emma Thompson
did such a great job with that script and everything
about it is perfect to me.
Speaker 4 (50:15):
It's like a comfort movie of mine.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
It's proper classy that film, Angly. I mean, I don't
like that he keeps doing these motion smoothing films recently,
I'm like, it's just making beautiful films. He keeps making
these like action films with like fifty two frames a
minute that looked like sports footage. Pretty weird. What are
you doing? Get back on a horse. You do good
(50:38):
stuff on the get horses, do really good horse stuff.
We don't like to be negative tighter do WEA? So
very quickly, what's the worst film you've ever seen?
Speaker 3 (50:52):
So I was trying to think about this because show
business ruins you as far as being critical of movies,
because you know how hard it is to get anything
made TV, but especially film, and you know how many
different places it could have gone wrong, and you know that,
like even terrible movies took five years to make, and
a million different people weighed in, And that's why it's
(51:13):
been the only movie that I think I've ever walked
out of. And I'm not saying this is the worst
movie I've ever seen, because I don't remember, because I
didn't even finish it. There was a movie that came
out I'm gonna look it up from twenty It was
came out in twenty sixteen, and it was called Rules
Don't Apply, and it was Lily Collins and the guy
(51:36):
who played Hans Solo in like the Solo movie.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
That came out and he was in Olden Yes, and
Warren Batty and I was a friend of mine.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
Yeah, there was a friend of mine. We went to
go see it, and we love going to see movies.
We'll pretty much see anything. And I think we walked
out of it because we were just like, this is
not this is just not great.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
What were the roads that went and playing?
Speaker 3 (52:02):
I think he was like her driver or he was
a driver. Maybe it was like he wasn't supposed to
they weren't supposed to date or something. I don't even
I don't even remember. I just didn't. I just didn't like. Again,
it takes a lot for me to I don't think
I've ever walked out of a movie before. The only
other movie I almost walked out of recently, which I'm
(52:24):
so glad I didn't, but I was in a full theater.
I went to go see Tar and the Oh my god,
it was so good, but you know the beginning, there's
all those credits and they're so long, and a bunch
of us in the theater were like, did they fuck
up the movie? Like it was so long. We were
so we were just like, is it is this the end?
(52:45):
We missed the whole movie?
Speaker 4 (52:47):
What happened?
Speaker 3 (52:47):
Like should we go talk to someone? But then it
started and it was great.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
Yeah, Well, I film, good film. You're in comedy, you're
an excellent comedian, You're one of the greats. What's the
film that made you laugh the most?
Speaker 3 (53:01):
I saw Bridesmaids in high school and it like blew
my mind, which is another one I've seen a bunch
of times.
Speaker 1 (53:09):
It's good.
Speaker 4 (53:10):
Jesus Christ, it's so good.
Speaker 3 (53:12):
It's so good it I could not believe how funny
it was and just how many funny women are in it,
and it really like I still remember seeing that with
a group of my friends and walking out of that
theater like just like vibrating.
Speaker 4 (53:27):
I was so excited that it existed.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
It's fucking good. It's really really good, and we need another.
I keep thinking, has there been anything since bridesmaid of
that sort of scale comedy film with such a big ensemble.
They're amazing that I can't think of one.
Speaker 4 (53:43):
I'm sure there has been.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
It's probably.
Speaker 3 (53:47):
Hey, if you think I haven't pitched stuff for years,
as like, hey, I would like to make other bridesmaids
or something with that impact, because people always ask you any.
Speaker 1 (53:57):
On your IMDb it says untitled Taylor Thomlinson film. Does it?
Speaker 3 (54:03):
Yeah, see if that comes to fruition, Yeah, we're working
on it.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
Exciting. My advice probably needs a title. That would be
my only advice.
Speaker 4 (54:12):
Yeah, oh yeah. And you know it's so funny.
Speaker 3 (54:14):
Titles are so hard, but they're not hard for stand
up specials. My stand up specials have been so easy
to title, and everything else is so hard to title.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
Taylor Thomlinson, you've been beyond your delight. However, when you
were thirty five years old and you were in a
bit of a rush because you're a workaholic and you
were going from touring and you thought, well, wow, i'm touring,
I may as well pop into the city and do
a set of improv, which you said you wouldn't do.
But you're a real worker, and you were like, I
forgot to take my settlements, and you're in a rush,
(54:45):
so you grabbed your Fish one official capsule and you
put your zinc down. Zinc had gone in. You've done
your B twelves, you've done your him in a and
you were like, I've really got a go. You grabbed
your fish and your magnesium. You chuck them in, and
then they both got stuck in your throat and no
one was around, and you were like and you couldn't
(55:07):
reach your mobile which was over there, and you collapsed
on the floor. And then your agent's twelve hours later,
were like, Tenny's not making money for us. It's been
twelve hours she made money for us. This doesn't seem right.
I'm furious. They're like, something's up. And they called me
and I was wondering about with a coffin, you know
what I'm like, And I go, oh, check in on there.
(55:27):
I'm in the area, and I come in your house.
You are not only dead, but the thing has trapped
so much you have expanded. You're like the air that
has got caught has just expanded and expanded, and there's
so much more of you than I'm expecting. And I'm like,
oh fuck, So I have to get axe and start
chopping you up, chopping you up, chopping you into little
(55:49):
bits to try and get you all into the coffin.
It's black airware, bits of you ever ever, all over
your place. Say sorry, but Dustin says he's going to
clean it up later. Anyway, I grab all your bits
stuff in the coffin. It's jammed. There's really only enough
room in that coffin. Barely enough room in the coffin.
But I can slip one DVD in the side for
you to take across to the other side. And on
(56:10):
the other side, it's movie night every night. What film
are you taking to show the people of Matcha Heaven
on the other side when it is your movie night,
Taylor Tomlinson, Matcha Matcher.
Speaker 4 (56:20):
I mean Singing in the Rain? Am I allowed to
see Singing in the Rain?
Speaker 1 (56:23):
Great? Okay, I believe. I believe it's already there. But
no one is complaining about a rewatch of Singing in
the Rain.
Speaker 4 (56:30):
They like, we saw this one. You wasted a trip
to Heaven.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
Send that back. She's got more work to do. And
the agents are like, yes please, Taylor thomins In, is
there anything else you would like people to look out
for to watch your Netflix specials eg or other things?
Speaker 4 (56:48):
Yeah, March of specials. They're both on Netflix.
Speaker 3 (56:50):
I am on Tour Forever and always t Tomcomedy dot
Com for shows. I don't know when this comes out,
but I'm probably coming to your city.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
All right, Taylor, thanks for your time, what pleasure.
Speaker 4 (57:03):
Thank you so much. This is so fun.
Speaker 1 (57:04):
Have a good death. Good night.
Speaker 2 (57:13):
So that was a rewind classic with Taylor Tomlinson. Please
be sure to check out the Patreon page at patreon
dot com slash Brett Goldstein where you get extra chat
and video and otherwise. If you fancy leaving a note
on Apple podcasts, that would be lovely too, but make
it a review of your favorite film. Much more fun
and way more interesting to read for everyone involved. Thank
(57:34):
you so much to Taylor for greatness and presence on
the podcast. Thanks to Screbius, Pip and the Distraction Pieces Network.
Thanks too. And this is where Brett thanks me for
editing and producing the podcast, so I will say it
is a great pleasure. Thanks to iHeartMedia and Will Ferrell's
Big Money Players Network for hosting it. Thanks to Adam
Richardson for the graphics and Lisa Lydam for the photography.
(57:55):
We will be back next week with another rewind classic.
But that is it for now. Brett and I and
all of us have films to be buried with. I
hope you're all very well in the meantime, have a
lovely week, take some deep breaths, and now more than ever,
be excellent to each other.
Speaker 1 (58:48):
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