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August 31, 2022 47 mins

LOOK OUT! It’s only Films To Be Buried With! THE RESURRECTION!

Join your host Brett Goldstein as he talks life, death, love and the universe with Ted Lasso star (aka Sam Obisanya) TOHEEB JIMOH!


...of course Toheeb is a working actor well known for many other brilliant roles but for today, let's think AFC Richmond. Toheeb last appeared on here all those years ago in August 2020 - but Brett has brought young Toheeb back to go through the whole beautiful cinematic ordeal one more time, for the wonder of us all! A lovely one, as we get to catch up on a ton of Toheeb goodness, and hear those new questions out in the open along with new revelations including drama school scuffles, self tapes, our old friend AALS (or Altitude Adjusted Lachrymosity Syndrome or crying on planes), TWO new film premises, and an exciting new marriage pact! What a treat. Find out of he makes it through - ENJOY!


FTBBW EP109 (Toheeb's debut)

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SUPERBOB (Brett's 2015 feature film)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Look out. It's only films to be buried with the Resurrection. Hello,
and welcome to films to be buried with the Resurrection.

(00:21):
My name is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian, an actor,
a writer, a director, a referee, and I love film.
As Edgar Allan Poe once said, there is no beauty
without some strangeness. Look at Mahland Drive. It's fucking weird
and it's scary, but it's also really really fit. Yeah,
I'd agree with that, Edgar, A nice one. Thanks. Every
week and invite a special guest over, I tell them
they've died. Then I get them to discuss their life

(00:43):
through the films that meant the most of them. But
not this week. This week I use my shamanic powers
to bring back a former guest from the dead and
ask them twelve new questions. And this week it is
the brilliant actor Emmy nominee, and he's also my screensaver.
It's mister Tahibjim. Head over to the Patreon at patreon
dot com forward slash Brett Goldstein, where you get twenty

(01:04):
minutes of extra chat with Tahib, You get a secret,
you get all sorts of stuff, You get the whole
episode uncut. You also get it as a video. Check
it out over at patreon dot com. Forward slash Brett
Goldstein so t heibjimo god. I love him. He plays
Samobisanya in ted Lasso. He's a phenomenal actor. I've said
this before, but he's at the George Clooney and RR.

(01:24):
We recorded this just before he was nominated for an Emmy.
And I've never been more happy or more proud of
anyone in my life ever. It was so lovely to
do this over zoom. Now his smoke alarm is fixed.
I've got nothing but love for this man. He's a
brilliant actor and a wonderful man, and I think you
will very much enjoy it. So that is it for now.
I very much hope you enjoy episode two hundred and

(01:47):
eleven of Films to be Buried with the Resurrection. Hello,
and welcome to Films to be Buried with the Resurrection.
It is I Brett Goldstein, and I am joined today

(02:09):
by a man, a boy, a handsome fellow, a model,
a glamor model, an actor, a writer, a producer, a lover,
a fighter, but only with his heart, a beautiful, strong,
loving heart, and this is so much of that is wrong,

(02:32):
and a kindness that bears that people cannot handle, all
wrapped up in an underlying bow of ruthlessness that will
kill you if you cross him. Please welcome to the show,
my angel, my love and the owner of my heart.
Eres is back from the dead. It's only mister dame

(02:54):
you I'm alive. I'd so much of that is actually incorrect.
What are you lying to the people? Bro? I tell it,
I tell it like it is. You know, you know me.
I'm famous for it. Yeah to Heab, welcome back. What
it absolute delight to have you back on the show.
I know I speak for all the listeners when they

(03:15):
say this is the one I'm signing up to the
patroon for, because I want to see that point. Because
let's face it, yes you're a talent, Yes you're a personality,
Yes you've got all the skills in the world, but
also you're fucking fit. And that's what they say to you. Now,
for those of you who don't obsessively follow to you

(03:36):
might not know that my screen saver. It is and
will be until probably the dare die. I'd imagine it's
I actually wonder when you know, and it's the same
for me. For those who don't know, your screen is
really pixelater faced, but genuinely I made you my screen, savor.
I can't remember the day that it happened, but ever since,

(03:58):
whenever I look at my phone, it genuinely makes me
smile and I think. You know, people go, I'm looking
at your finds bad for I'm like, no, it's like
a little dopamine hit. I looked down, there's you, and
I go, everything's that's sweet. I mean, it's gonna be
weird and we like getting married and stuff, and our
spouses are like, can you can you change it to
me now? And I'm like, oh yeah, oh yeah, no,
I suppose it would be if we didn't, if we
didn't marry each other, but you know, oh yeah, let's see.

(04:22):
The life is still long and you know what I mean,
So don't worry. Yeah, but at a time what we're
currently filming season three of ted Lesso. When we didn't
we first do this the day season one came out.
We did this on the yeah, the day of season one,
which I listened to the original version when I died

(04:44):
the first time, and it was so sweet, bro, like
I felt like such a long time ago. So it
was just yeah, it was really nice, like we had
no idea what was coming, Like that was the first
three episodes. It just dropped and yeah, we're in a
middle of the pandemic. Can you say in under a minute,
how your life has changed since then? Oh? Man, running, acting, jumping, screaming, crying, murdering,

(05:17):
murdering people. No, that was my life changed. I think.
I don't know. I just feel I feel a bit.
I feel a bit maturer. I have a bit more
money now actually, which is which is actually really good.
I've been working a bit more like I'm doing. Yeah,
we've done two more ted lassos. Had you done The Power?
This is this is this is. What's funny is when
we did the last podcast, like we filmed a bit
of the Power and then covid stopped us and it

(05:40):
still hasn't released. It will release next year, and by
that point, I think I'll be getting re resurrected. We
get murdered again on your podcast. But yes, so The
Power still isn't finished, which is really funny because like
I got that job before, before I got Tabasso, And
we've done three seasons and the power. But but like
I have, they've shown me a soft look and a

(06:02):
soft cut of the first three episodes, and I think
it's incredible. I think it's amazing. It's gonna be so
like you know when you watch something and you and
I'm doubling tripling down on it, like it's it's gonna
be really cool, really important. Yeah, man, especially like given
where we're at right now and like America just going
to war on women. I think it's going to be
like a really significant and impactful show. So yeah, I

(06:24):
can't I can't wait to finish it, release it and
see it. Yeah. Yeah, that's very cool. Are you able
to watch yourself? Are you happy watching yourself as creating
or do you find it weird? And I think I'm
used to it now, you know, I don't know how
you feel about it, but yeah, I'm just I'm used
to it. Do you do what you think you were doing? Sometimes?
Sometimes definitely not, like what the hell is going on?

(06:47):
That's not what was happening in my mind, But for
the most part, for the most part, it is. Yeah,
it is what I think I do, and I think
it's weird. I don't know how you feel about it.
But I think it's also because like like you, you
probably don't even audition any more, mister flipping Emmy Winner,
but like when you have to do when when you
have to do self tapes, like you just have to
watch yourself back in order to do audition, and for

(07:08):
people who don't know self tapes, so like when you
record yourself doing a scene and you send it off
to like the people that choose who act in their shows,
and so that's that's that. But like you have to
watch yourself a lot. And so when I graduate from
drama school, like I just have to do loads of those.
So I think I got used to doing it pretty quickly.
But then when you when we started doing te Lasso,
like when you're filming for so long, you have to

(07:29):
learn how to not watch yourself in order to do
you know what I mean, in order to know what's
going on or know what your your face and hands
and body. So so yeah, so I think I'm used
to it now. I kind of like it. It's cool.
Well listen, I I like watching you. Do you like
watching yourself back? How do you feel about it? I
mean it took me when when we made Super BARB,

(07:50):
Like I hated. I hated it so much. The first
time I had to watch myself back I was like,
oh my god, let's just cancel that out film as
a deserter. And then I did find for their fan
that I sort of had to do it, watch it
three times to get the sort of shame and hatred out,
and then I could watch it a bit more objectively
so that we could edit it and go, Okay, so

(08:10):
let's just imagine this isn't me and it's someone else.
And but I am often surprised by, Oh, that's not
what I thought my face was doing, you know, in
a good way. No, No, it's just like you think,
you think I'm probably doing that, and then you see
it and you go, but I definitely wasn't doing that.
I think I had the same thing when I watched Anthony.

(08:32):
They sent it to me early before it fully came out,
and I had to watch it like four times, like
you said, in order to just like get all of
the I mean, just get everything else out of my head.
And by the time I watched it the night and
with my mom, I could just see the film and
not see myself, which is I think it's a skill,
like you have to build up and do it, I
think famously like Hannah doesn't. Hannah doesn't watch yourself, right,

(08:54):
I think you have to if you, particularly if you're
going to direct and produce and do your own stuff,
you have to to sort of you have to be
a big boy and go all right, fuck it, let's
do this because you sort of have to. You still
have to be able to tell the story and stuff.
But it is weird and and you don't want to
get self as yourself. It's probably best not to look
until you finished, and then you can lick. Yeah, Hannah's yeah,

(09:18):
I don't think Hannah. Hannah does watch must she has
seen she must have seen bits of it, But I
remember her saying that she didn't she didn't watch it,
which I found really peculiar because she's she's brilliant. Yeah,
she's missing, she's really missing out with some good stuff.
Keem imagine her just like watching the episode and like
watching everybody else, and then she comes out she's like, no, no, no,

(09:40):
just like throwing sh a the TV. You are you
were dead, but I have brought you back to life
because I well like you. But what point in your
life would you like to come back to what would
you change? What would you keep the same, and he
really brets, sorry, are you are you Brett or are

(10:03):
you like weird like old time lord type of immortal.
I don't know what. I don't know what you mean.
Just not just Bret. Okay, I'm the same guy I've
always been. Oh no, I don't know. I think in
the past in the other podcast, I died when I
was like one hundred and one hundred and three hundred

(10:23):
and two something like that, And so I think I'm
gonna bring myself back. Yeah, I'll be twenty five. Okay,
I'm coming back to this age right now. You're not changing,
You're not changing anything from the past. I can change things. Yeah,
if you can go back, you can come back at twenty.
You can come back at fifteen if you want. Oh yeah,

(10:44):
i'd come back at Do I keep my memories from
now or just yeah, yeah you do? Yeah, I keep it? Okay, cool,
I'm oh, we don't want to go too young, because
that's just like boring. I think i'd go back to
secondary school. I think i'd be it. I'd be like fifty. Maybe.
I feel like that's the point where I'm like, I
can still I can make important changes. What would you

(11:05):
change if you don't know? I don't know. I think
I would have spent less time doing things I wasn't
interested in. Like I spent so much time doing the
things I thought I should have been doing, and I
was just worried about everything all the time. So I think,
you know, i'd have gone back and just been a
bit more selfish and said, I'm doing the things that
I like and things that I don't like. I'm just
I'm gonna do it. But so secondary school, you would

(11:26):
have still gone to classes. You're going back, You're going
to class, You're doing all these class No. I think
I think I might just might because think about it,
like I don't I still want to go to drama school.
But I don't need any like A levels or any
qualifications to get into drama school. So to be honest,
I could just walk around and do you absolutely, yeah, whatever.
But I think I probably would have gone into classes.
I would have been a bit nicer to my teachers.

(11:46):
I probably would have you know, beat some more people up.
Oh yeah, i think I'm going I'm going back. I'm
going back to beat up fifteen year old to that vengeance. Yeah,
that's a real that's a real ted last sized story.
He's going back in time to physically and just some children.

(12:07):
Why is he attacking those fourteen year old boys? You
don't know what they just twenty five year old man
just beating up ten ages. Yeah, would you still go?
Would you go to drama school again? Actually? Actually, what
I guess if I if I know what I know now,
then I wouldn't. I wouldn't have to because I'd have
already done it. But I think when I went to
drama school in my like previous life, I actually, yeah,

(12:29):
I just knew nothing about the industry. I was like
going I wanted to be an actor, and I had
no idea what that was. I didn't know anybody that
had done it before. And so I had to go
to drama school because if I just tried to act,
I literally wouldn't have known what to do and where
to go. But if I could go back now, actually
I don't know, I could probably just actually know, I'd
have to go to drama school. I made too many
good friends there. I'd go. I'd go for the Yeah,

(12:51):
like for the good memories. Is there anyone you're you're
beating up at drama school. No, no, no, no, I
actually had a fight at drama school when I was there.
In real life, I did, if you tell me on
the podcast, so now you've put it out there, you
probably couldn't have to. No, I didn't tell you. I
think I was just really I was really stressed out,
and like it was. Yeah, it was one of those

(13:12):
times where like I think, you know, no, you're crazy,
commented I'd beat up one of my teachers. That would
be a better story. No, it was another student who
was on a different it was on a different course.
And there was a rule at my school at Guildhall
that if you had if you had a fight, you
got kicked out. Apparently it was just like a thing
and like there was like no tolerance for it, which
there shouldn't be. But then, like it was, I was

(13:32):
in my third year and I remember I had my
first agent meeting this day, and I was insanely stressed out,
like we were in third year. It was like this
is it, Like this is the launching point of your
career and it's either going to happen or it's not.
And I was really stressed out and I had my
first meeting. I didn't know what to do and blah
blah blah, and I ran into this guy and we
had run into each other before and like kind of
you know, like you like bumped into me in the

(13:53):
street or something, and like it was kind of like, yo,
we're saying. I was like, yore saying and it was
just a bit crazy. And then nothing happened, and then
we ran into each other again and he just kept
provoking me, like it was crazy. Like like I turned
around and I was like, yo, you're that guy that
I ran into him. He was like, yeah, you're not
going And then like we got into like a bit
of a standard and I was like listen, bro, like

(14:15):
I'm I'm walking away. I'm want to do my thing,
Like I'm just letting you know, like just be careful
when you talk to people in it because I was
kind of crazy whatever. And I was about to walk
away and he was just standing there. I was like, bro,
are you standing there? Bro? Like you know what I'm
doing And he was like noah, bro, I want to
watch you walk away for the second time. And I
was like, oh fucking hell. And then I was like,
you know what, It's cool. I'm gonna walk away. And
then as I was walking a wood and I was

(14:35):
walking away, he was like, yeah, fucking Pussio, and I
just snapped, like I've never been that angry, like in
my like I can't remember the last time I was angry,
and I just like snapped and we had this big, big, old,
big old fight. And I remember after the fight, I
was crying so much, bro like I was because I
thought I had like thrown everything away. I was, I

(14:55):
don't want to get kicked out. I was like, I'll
go to this age and meeting now and I'm not
gonna get an agent and everything is over. And I
was actually supposed to have a really important disciplinary meeting
with like the heads of all the departments sat by school,
and I remember I wrote all of this down into
like this really long spoken word poem and I performed
this poem at something and I think somebody must have

(15:15):
heard it, and like just like from my point of view,
like what I was going through and just you know,
I'm like I'm a boy, and like at that point,
like you didn't really know how to say you were
stressed out or you didn't really like there was no
I didn't have a vocabulary to be like, oh, like
I'm a bit overwhelmed and a bit anxious and ultimately
scared about what my career is going to be. And
so like all of that pent up frustration just got
let out in this one moment where I lost it.

(15:37):
And then after I performed that piece, I just never
heard about it again. Like there was no talk of
this disciplinary meeting. Somebody obviously went and thought a battle
from me behind my back, but yeah, it's just the
entire thing went away, and me and that guy we
spoke and we we squashed it and it was cool
and like we were from, you know, similar neighborhood, similar backgrounds,
and what happened with the guy So you were like,

(15:59):
this was just in this street outside the drum. No, no, No,
The first time we met each other was in the street.
The second time was in the building we went happening
to go to the same So when you you just
sort of were on the floor. I just turned around
and I was like I recognized him and he recognized me.
Like we didn't know each other, but we were in
the same school, and we were kind of like, yo,
you're that guy that was chatting shit out to Tesco
and you and but when you were when you were fighting,

(16:23):
like what you sort of like rolled around on the
floor and then like what, like what stopped it? Did
people stopped here? Oh? Yeah yeah, teaching people like friends, teachers, everything,
everybody just like quite involved and it got a bit
messy and stuff. It was just like, oh man, it's
one of those moments like I regret, but there was
also a part of me that was like it was
a very important moment and I learned a lot from that.

(16:46):
It was a mistake, but unnecessary mistake. And when you
you you sort of made up with the guy. Yeah.
I went and found him and we spoke and I
was like, listen, bro, like it was stupid. It shouldn't
have happened. I was super, super super stressed out, which
isn't it an excuse, but it is what it is.
And he was like, oh, you're saying the same stuff.
And I was like, bro from he was like a
white guy, and I was like, ware you from news

(17:07):
from South London, I'm from South London. And then we
started like we just started talking. We didn't become friends
or anything, but we just like spoke it out. And
you know, if I saw him now, I'd like I'd
be like, yo, we say bro, and it'd be cool.
I hope you know. So, like that's what I'd go
back to primary school to, like can do with with
all my bullies. We'd have to fight, but then have
to fight the word and then yeah, poetry is the answers.

(17:34):
I know this, I know this guy out. I'll read him.
Shall I compare with you to someone day? Man, you
have me a black guy, but I can't even do
it shackspeat quite Oh man, how did you even get
out to that? So funny? Sure you are back to

(17:56):
life the living. I'm very happy to see you. But
they wanted to talk about your life again, this time
through a film which makes a change. First question is
what's the last film you saw? To h The last
film I saw is Everything Everywhere, All at Once, which
is a master of peace. Bro. It's a masterpiece. Yeah, man,

(18:19):
it's incredible. It was incredible. It's just so good. I
love that film on every level. And I think it
is profound and silly and wild and fun and deep
and incredibly moving. And what I found interesting is for
me it was like, oh, I think it was a
whole film about love. Niche He said it spoke to
him sort of as a child of immigrant parents, and

(18:40):
he felt more the story that affected him more was
the mother daughter story rather than the husband wife story.
And I wondered, for you, is it something different altogether
or no, it was the same thing. I think. You know,
at the beginning, you see her like just trying to
figure all of this stuff out, like run this landre
we like figure out how taxies, like need a translator
a bit, and I'm like, I just like I saw
my parents and that's what my dad, and that it's

(19:01):
my mom and that. But then also the like that
relationship of the mother and daughter I found like just
really really really moving, man. But I think there was
also something about, you know, having hope and being optimistic,
Like you know how sometimes you can feel like a
bit of an idiot or you can feel a bit
naive and young if you if you're optimistic, and if
you're not, you know, a bit jaded, and yeah, like

(19:22):
I think that was the thing that really hit me
the most about that film was it was kind of
like it's cool to like just stay open and to
like attack things in love. Like the world is really
bleak and really dark, but you don't have to be
like that. And I really struggle with that sometimes, man,
because I feel like you'll just get taken advance, like
people will take advantage of you if you're if you're
nice and if you're like good and if you're well meaning,

(19:44):
like in business or in whatever, like sometimes you know,
like you know, like saying like good guys, good guys
don't win, or or like a guys finish last or
something like that, like, yeah, I don't think that's true.
I used to be incredibly dark and cynical for many,
many many years, and more recently I've I've actually realized
I'm much more optimistic and rem it because I do

(20:04):
realize it's what you put out, Like your world is
what you put out, so what you're attracting it. Yeah,
so if you open and full of love, you will
see the world like that a lot more than if
you go everything's fun because because everything is fucked, but
not all people. Yeah, and you know that's like that's
the ted Las sort of story, isn't it Like but

(20:26):
it's hard to do and yeah, you know, like it's
it's not it's not easy to do, even like Ted
or Sam, like you know, these Danny Rohans like that
you couldn't be like that all the time. It's not
natural and so like, you are going to have ups
and downs, but it's a thing of like constantly reminding
yourself that if I lead with love and openness, then

(20:46):
that's what I'll get back a lot of the time.
Not all of the time, but most of the time,
I hope. And I found that just incredibly moving. Man Like,
Like I went with my friend Max and I was like,
I can't remember the last film that made me cry
and laugh at the same time. It was so silly,
but it was so yeah, it was so silly. Oh

(21:08):
my bro, you better go and find rackecuity Bro and
the bomb deal dies. It's like film, it's about profound
menia life also have people jumping on bomdial dies. It's
like it's going, oh so funny. I think that that
The line that really got me was when they're in
the alleyway and she's like a famous actress and he's

(21:29):
you know, and he's in a suit or he goes
and I think in the past life, I would have
really enjoyed doing laundry and taxes with you. Oh, I
want to find someone wants to do laundry and taxes
with me? Please? Do you want to do laundry and
taxes with me? Bro, let's do laundry together. Yeah, okay,
and then you make a marriage pack, like if we're
if we're not both married by the time you was

(21:50):
at sixty or something. Yeah, you just just like shut off.
I absolutely would do that. That is a great idea
we'd have at marriage. You could do whatever you could.
You could, you know, I wouldn't mind you. You know,
we just we'd have a nice life. Are you trying
to lay out the terms of conditions? Yeah? Yeah, well

(22:10):
I'm basically trying to say to you, you you know, you
don't have to be We'll work out these terms in
private before we take it to the public space. Who
do you think should play you in the film of

(22:31):
your Life? I mean, I don't know. It depends. It
depends how old I am in the film of my life,
Like it depends what section of my life is the
most interesting part of my life. But it could be.
But that's again, it's up to you. It might be
your whole life, it might be a section you chosen.
But like, there's also a part of me just like
me bro, like give me the job, like I need
that work. Can I have that? Please? Like who else?

(22:52):
But you'll still be filming. You'll still be filming season
Mine of the Power. So fine, Okay, I'm tied in
and I can't do I don't know. Actually, I have
a lot of a lot of actor friends that I
think could play me. One of my friends Jonathan Jonathan
and j Tywell I think would do a really good
job playing playing to he Well. I also think if

(23:13):
we're talking older to hem, say, we froze Marchelarli in time,
and then we allowed me to like grow and like
live life, and then we're doing you know that Marshela
as the guy because I'm just going to spend the
whole of my life trying to be my hercheler. Anyway, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
perfect time. That's great. Yeah. Oh man, if I if
I get to work with Marchel Arlie, I think I'd

(23:34):
be done a peak. That's it. That is my mountain top.
Do you think you'd be happier? I don't think we've
took We hadn't done this yet. Do you think you'd
be happier than when you worked with Sam Richardson for
the list at Sam Richardson in Ted Lesso. Hey, Sam
Ardson is incredible, an amazing wordful, But I've also never
seem to he happier, look happy. He was so in

(23:57):
love with Saston. I couldn't believe his luck that he
had says with him, bro like I had, I just
spent the whole day Like. Season two was such a
blast because I would have days where I just spent
the whole day with Hannah, and then I have days
where I just spent the whole days, the whole day
with Sam Richardson, and Sam just made me laugh so much,
bro Like, I've never laughed that much on set. He

(24:19):
was so great. I learned so much from him. He
is hilarious and he's just the nicest guy. He's the
nicest guy ever. Great. Yeah, I think, Yeah, it'd be tough.
I can't choose between Sam Richardson and he's got his
work out for him to impress him on his SAI.
I mean, I think if he wouldn't have to do anything,
bro like, I'm there, like if anything an you can't.

(24:43):
I just loved so much. What is the nice romantic
film you've ever seen? Are you a romantic? To? Hey?
I am. I think. I think I'm a bit of
a I don't. I don't know. I haven't been a
relationship in a long time, so maybe I'm not. But
I like to think I am. Yes, I think I
think I am. But I think I have to be

(25:06):
with the right person in order to like just you know,
be a romantic in it. I think the most romantic
film I've seen is it's an anime film called Your Name.
It is like, that's it, that's the film, and there's
a part of me that's kind of like, I can't

(25:26):
watch that again until I'm in a relationship with someone
because it's going to make me too sad, perpetually, perpetually alone.
But but that is the most romantic film I've I've seen.
It's just amazing, Like it makes me really believe in
like finding your person and being with them forever. And
I'm good now that I know my person is you,
but like I yeah, for those who haven't found their

(25:48):
their breat Coachstein, um it, Yeah, it really makes me
believe in people having one and hopefully they find him. Yeah,
it's a really good choice. I went to say that,
I think that's Yeah, I haven't seen a lot of
anime films at the cinema, and that was when I
went to see a bigger, big, big Spain there. It
was beautiful. Yeah, I'm jealous. I watched it at home.

(26:08):
I really feel like people are people are missing out,
you know, like if people need to get over that
subtitles barrier, and there's just so much stuff out there
that's really really really dope. Your name is incredible though,
Like it's beautifully shot, Like it's just so colorful and
amazing to watch, and it's like the voice acting is amazing,
and the like the soundtrack is awesome. It's just everything

(26:31):
you need. Like I dare you to watch that film
and not and not like shed a little thug tear, jemy,
my little fuck tear is there everywhere. What is the
what is the best film you ever saw that you
never want to see again? I have the best film
I ever saw that then I want to see again.

(26:52):
It has to be The Godfather, Like I know everybody
everybody brings it out, but like I can't. I don't
need to see it again, Like it's do you know
what It's like I didn't. I didn't watch The Godfather
until like I think I only watched it like two
years ago for the first time, so it was a while,
like it was one of my films. It's like I
should have seen this film, and I just never saw
it when I was younger. And then I watched it,

(27:12):
and there's loads of these films I have, like loads
of hype and everyone's like, oh, it's the greatest film ever.
Like you watched some of them and you're a bit like, okay, cool, whatever.
But The Godfather was one where I watched it and
I was like, Okay, this is it, Like you've completed
film whatever that is, that is its own thing. And
I don't think if I watched it again, I'd have
the same reaction to it. And so that's something that

(27:33):
I'm just going to leave in my experience with it.
That one time was enough. It's incredible. It's the best
film ever. Like it is. It's just the best. Very
nice answer, very nice answer, What is the best action
film you've ever seen? And and my follow up question,
when are you going to play then action film? Oh man,
give me an action film today, bro. I think I'm ready.
I think that's that's something that I'm I'm starting to

(27:54):
manifest and put out into the universe. I think you
already actually look at it for those you don't know, like,
oh my goodness, can we do like a three way
body cup like me, you and Phil? Fuck? Yeah, you
have bad Cup? Can you be mad Cup? Actually you
be bad Cup. I'll be Good Cup and let Phil
ye be mad Cup. He just does silly good Cup.

(28:18):
That's actually I guess that's conventional casting. Or you could
just flip it all around, you know. Yeah, have you
played good Cup France, I'd played bad I played mad Cup, yeah, Phil, Phil?
Phil can be like sexy hero Cup. Yes, yeah, yeah,
and I'll play I'll play bad Coup. You play bad Cup.
That'll be yeah. Write it, Okay, write that film. Promise
the people right now when your Broadcup, you're gonna write
You write it? You can you write it? What have

(28:39):
I got? Right? You write it? I think the best
action film I've ever seen is The Raid. Have you
seen it? Oh? Shit? Yeah, they're right, Yeah, very good.
Raid incredible because like, yeah, I watched it a long
time ago, and I honestly can't remember the plot. I
just remember like an hour and thirty minutes of people
getting this ship be out of them, and it was incredible,

(29:01):
Like it was He's just whooping us bro the entire time.
And that's what I go to action movies for. Like
I'm like, all right, cool, there's a story, a right,
cal whatever, whatever. I just want to see punch people up,
hang theeds by scenes with a bi plot. I don't
really care to get away, Like my tolerance is so
like I don't mind bro, like I'll take anything, and

(29:23):
I just give me a little bit, just a little
bit off playing a little bit of the action, like
I want to see people get thrown off of towers.
But yeah, the raid, the raid hands Also, I think
what I really liked about that. I'm not sure if
it was the first raid or the Raid too, but
there's one of them where he starts and he's praying
and he's a Muslim and he's right, and it was
like one of the first time I saw somebody prey
on TV. And you know, I come from a Muslim family,

(29:45):
and so it was just like, really, I was really
cool for me, Like I was like, oh my god,
like I feel I don't know, like I just felt
a bit like I felt seeing a little you know,
And I was really also part of why I like
the raid so much, but then also like he beats
those of people up. Yeah, he does a bit of
praying and then an awful lot of painting. Yeah, like
me when I come back from like here with drama School,

(30:11):
Oh my goodness, the films. If you had to, if
you had to tote, which film do you think you
could have made? And why? Okay, so like this is
this isn't me saying I feel like I could have
come up with this idea, But my answer is Swansong.
But I feel like it's because if there was a
movie that if you could write my dream movie and

(30:34):
my dream role and like give that to me, I
think it probably be Swansong. Like I was obsessed with
that film when I watched. I think I've seen it
like six seven times. And I was lucky enough to
speak to Ben Cleary when after it came out. My
team set me up with him and I had a
zoom where I just like just praised him for an hour.
At one point he was like, Okay, cool, I've got
to go, and I was like, no, no, but I

(30:55):
love it, but I love you. He also promised he
did introduced me to Mersham, and I was like, you
don't need to do that because I'd make a fool
out of the both of us, Like you did regret
that very quickly, but um, I just yeah, I just
I loved it, Like it was everything that I felt
like I wanted to do as like as an actor.

(31:15):
Like it was really sensitive, really delicate. It's just a beautiful,
beautiful film. And I remember watching it. I watched it
with my mum and I watched that like three am
for some reason with my mom. Both of us couldn't sleep,
and I just remember, like again like crying in my
mind arms because because it was like it was just
it was just so gorgeous and it genuinely made me
want to be a better person. It made me want

(31:36):
to cherish the time I had with people. I was like,
all right, cool, Like that's what I would make say.
That's not necessarily saying like I would have found like
that really clever idea as a way of telling the story.
But if there was a story that summed up that
type of work I wanted to make, I think it'd
be it'd be Swan Song in recent history. Yeah, that's
a great, perfect answer. I mean i'd ask you the

(31:58):
same question, but like you, you just made everything you
want to like actually doing it? Yeah, no, you can't do.
I can't do. What is the film you have pretended
to like to impress people to hape? Oh yeah, okay,
I have I have to. I have too. One in

(32:19):
more recent history and another one that I think is
actually gonna get me canceled from the internet. But first one,
I like, when I saw a Power of the Dog,
Like that was the first time I actually like lied
to people and like it completely went over my head.
Like it was really, it's obviously really good. It's obviously
really good and it's great. But like I saw it
and I was just kind of like people, how Anna,
going it's amazing, right, And like there was one one

(32:40):
director that I worked with who was obsessed with it,
and like I was just I just remember lying my
way through it and being like yeah, yeah, I really
did it. Yeah, I just it just really wasn't for me.
I was a bit like, you know, good, So Para
of the Dog is, Para of the Dog is, Yeah,
I'm gonna I'm gonna go. And par of the Dog
that's okay, that's I mean, maybe I just need to

(33:01):
see it again. I feel like it just kind of
went over my head, but I was like, do I
do I need? You need to see it now you
know what the ending is? Maybe and see No. But
when I sat like, I was still just kind of
like I was because that's the big twist, isn't it.
And I was like I thought I was gonna when
it happened, I was gonna be like, ah, cool, great,
like this is, but I wasn't. I was a bit like,

(33:21):
all right, do you know what I mean? I don't know. Maybe, yeah,
maybe I should see it again. I want to see
it again. I feel bad. What's the film you've never
seen that you think it's mad? You've never seen it.
I've never seen Indiana jumps readers of the Last art
that is mad? What is the film you love that
you don't expect anyone else to? Like? Grown ups? You

(33:46):
see groups? Grown ups is hilarious to me. Bro, that's
given fart jokes. It's fart jokes. It's you know what
I mean, it's whatever like grown ups is it's grown ups.
But you should like it. Yeah, it's a lot of
people that you really like going on holiday together and
getting paid for it. Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah.
I also just kind of feel like. I mean, yeah,
like a couple like me, you and you know, Jason

(34:09):
and Phil could like just go and film ourselves on holiday,
like making jokes, trying to make each other laugh, and
we'd have grown ups, you know. But that's why I
like it so much. This is two pieces. You've got
it right there, good cop, backup, bad what we call it?
What we call it our grown ups reboot. I have
no idea. Well, I mean you came up with a
good cop back, coup, back up, I don't know, just lads, lads,

(34:30):
lads loads abroad. That's yeah. Neither of those shows are
getting picked up. There's nothing wrong with grown ups really,
and they don't grown ups to you when they were
to go on day again. I sort of respect it,
sort of. What's that film Couples Retreat? I think it's
got like John Fabrow and other people in it, and

(34:52):
it's basically, you know, learn famous people hang out in Hawaii. Yeah,
I get what you made this. I like, why not
we need that? It's not every day I want to, like,
you know, like having my heart ripped out. I sometimes
I just want to watch people make fart jokes, like,
you know, it's cool. What is the film you would
show a lover as a test to see if you

(35:14):
should be together. I think I'm gonna go with I'm
gonna go with About Time. Have you seen About Time?
About Time killed killed me? Domino Glaser and Rachel McAdams
killed me dead. And I watched it on a plane. Oh,
don't watch out on a plane? You cry it? Right?
What is it about crying that planes? Like, apparently that's
the thing that people cry more on planes? It is

(35:34):
the thing? Is it the attitude? Like? What is I
don't know. I don't actually know what it is. I
think it may be that you're hovering above the earth,
so you're like already in a transcendental place. You might
be dead at any second. Maybe that's it for your
life the entire time. Yeah, but like About Time is
the one? Why About Time? I don't know? I think again,

(35:56):
it's one of those films that when you finish it,
you just feel like you want to be a better person,
and you want to go into the world leading with
love and you want to cherish every day and every moment.
Also like he tough smuggle Robbie at the door and
runs home to propose to his wife and I'm like,
you know what I mean, that's kind of incredible, remarkable, remarkable,

(36:18):
remarkable stuff. But yeah, no, I think it's just it's
a really sweet film. And if you can get with that,
then I feel like we could die together, you know.
And if you showed it to a lover, yeah, and
they didn't like it, would you immediately break up with them?
It'd be a big red flag because I'd be like,
why don't you like it? Like I'd have to have
the conversation. You'd be like, what is it about this
that you don't get? What you don't like? Because it's

(36:38):
it's perfect and it's also like my happy place film.
And I'm like, if if you really didn't like it,
then that's you attacking my happy place. And yeah, yeah
I'm not. I'm not letting you be with this person.
Thank you. What is the film that made you the
most uncomfortable? I have two Okay, I have two answers
for this. The first one is on the Plane, but

(37:00):
that's because I was really young when I watched it,
and like, I just I was really really really terrified
of like running into snakes in my house. There was
a bit where like he's like one guy is in
the toilet and he's like trying to have a piss
and then the snake comes and back to him on
the dick, and I was really scared that was going
to happen to me, like for a lot of my childhood,
and so, um, i'd say that, but that's where, like,

(37:21):
how does I want to watch that? Maybe like eight
nine year old tea or something. I don't know why
I was playing a nine years old but whatever. The
second one is, um is Midsummer. Have you seen mid Summer? Yeah?
It was a bit of a weird one, Like it
was just really strange, and I felt like I was
with it and I got it at the beginning, and
then it got to a point where like it just
started making left turns and I was like, yo, I
don't know where. It was really strange. I thought it

(37:47):
lost me after they I mean, what is it? They
start taking drugs like they take like a mushroom or
a flower or something like that, and then people start tripping,
and I think from then on I was like, I
don't understand what the rules of this like cult bar
and then they just started getting really trippy and it
was a bit where like they're having sex and there's
some lady just going who. Yeah. I actually found that
was so funny and I was like, I don't I

(38:08):
have no idea what's going on here anymore. I went
and saw that one of my friends and we were
both a bit. It was just lost. And I also
felt really uncomfortable because I imagine myself having to film
that scene of just having somebody go having sex. I
was like, I can't. I just yeah, but it was great. Yeah.
I definitely remember thinking, God, that's not an easy it's
a tough scene. It's a tough. But I think I

(38:30):
don't know if I like I just laugh. I find
it really funny. But yeah, it was that. I actually, um,
Florence Pugh came on set once Ted Lasso, Um if
this and that's tell the story. I was so like,
she came I think with Zach when Zach Breath was
directing his episode and we were in the locker room,
and so I was like, I don't go, Florence Pu's here,

(38:50):
and I'm a big fan of hers, and so I
was like, oh, yeah, that's really dope, and and then
I just started like talking about Florence Pu and I
was like, oh, she was really great. Mid some of
what I found that weird as fuck, and I was
just like talking about it for ages, and then I
went outside and I realized she had cans on the
whole time, and I was Mike, and I was just like,
you know, you just want to you want the world

(39:11):
to swallow your hold. Yeah, so she probably hates me.
I mean to be fair, I did say I thought
she was really great, which is true, but I found
the film Tripp, She's really She's one of my favorite actresses.
She's incredible. You know what what's brilliant about Midsummer that
I didn't know until I read a thing I think
it was the director talking about it, is that you're
told that it's like a nine day festival this Midsummer.

(39:33):
It's a nine day festival, and what we see in
the film is only the first three days, so that's
what's happening on day three. It leaves you go, what
the fuck is day? That checked me out? Bro, Yeah,
I'm done with that. That's crazy. I'm finally the first
flight home, bro, like leave it. Yeah, you're right, because

(39:57):
they take acid early and she goes, I'm not in
a good headspace. But then she takes the acid and
then you're like, so now we are we on acid
for the rest of the film. How long are they
are acid? Yeah? Well yeah, also like her entire family
have died, like why why are you taking her to
the middle of Like why is she going on this first?
Like German, Well, they're in they're in a pretty Yeah,

(40:19):
I mean he wanted to break up with her just before.
The whole thing's just very uncomfortable relationships, just like it
was so Chea goes through and by the end of it,
she's like the queen of this this little Yeah, I mean, yeah,
I guess. And he's on fire in a bear suit.
But the bit when it's on fire and the two
naked men who are just comfortably sitting there and then

(40:39):
they just start screaming as the fire and you're like, yeah, yeah,
because fire is horrible. Goes the Dark film, Yeah something, Okay,
that's a trippy film. Should watch that again. Have you
seen Men by Alex Garland? No, no Papercedes in it
and and yeah, he's so good in it by the way,
I wanted to. Yeah, he's a good and Jesse Jesse Buckley,

(41:01):
I haven't seen it yet. It's brilliant it's it's wild man.
You think Midtime as World. Oh is it Mandy in
a different way? Okay, cool, but I feel like it
makes it smaller. But it's got fucking trippy To me,
it makes sense, and the like in the trailer, even
when Rory Can is like being everywhere, I'm like, that
still kind of makes sense. So yeah, I need to
go and see that. Actually I didn't know it was out. Yeah,

(41:23):
see how you get into I really liked it. Yeah,
but it is mad. If you could show a child
one film, what would it be and frankly, why are
you doing it forcing a child to watch? One of
my favorite films? My my my pick is Comfrey Pander.
Comfrey Panda is the best. It's the best film. It's
my Yeah, It's one of the best cartoons ever, best,

(41:45):
one of the best animated films I've watched. It's incredible.
I feel like you get whatever you are going through
in life. You can watch Comfrey Pander and take something
away from it. It will help whatever situation you are
currently in, especially if you're a child. Um, yeah, it's
it's the Comfrey Pander is the one because also I
think in the first one, especially Thai Long is like
one of the best villain character arcs that I've seen

(42:06):
in a cartoon because he just he thinks he's the
chosen one and he's like been raised his entire life
to believe he's the chosen one, and then he isn't. Yeah,
and it's like, why wouldn't you try and fuck up
the entire village, Like when you've been sold a dream
and you're just really good at what you do, when
you're better than everybody you know, and the old turtle
guys like, nah, it's not you. And it's like I've
worked my entire life for this though, and he goes, no,

(42:28):
it's not you, and then yeah, yeah, but I'm the
village is the ground. Um, so yeah, I really am.
I really like Coffee Panda because also like, yeah, Jack
Black is hilarious, he's so funny, he's so so so
good in it. And also it's just, yeah, like the
entire thing is about you are enough, trust yourself, like
find your path and and be with it. And yeah,

(42:48):
I think everybody needs master in their life. A turtle dude,
he's dope. Well I love the answer, Well, thank you
to Hey, you have been great, so good in fact,
that I've made a decision and I am gonna let
you live just in case you ever were to say,

(43:09):
get killed again by me. And who's to say what
your future held, But at the moment you're going to live.
But just in case you were to ever die again,
you've got to leave one DVD in your will. What
DVD were you lave? Oh? I feel like my DVD
has to be Kung Fu Hustle, Steve and Kufu Hustle.
It's it. That's the film. That is the first film.

(43:32):
That's my first film for sentimental reasons, Like it's like
a film that me and my parents and my brother
bonded over when we were kids. We watched it again recently,
like I told you about, you know, like there was
a fire on my on my black and flat, and
so like at the moment, we've had to move to
a different house and and just while our house is
being fixed, and it was really it's like a really
oddly stressful thing to go through because like you don't

(43:53):
really have your own house and you're kind of far
away now, you don't really know what's going on, and like,
you know, we were all kind of stressed out about it,
kind of running around. And I remember recently, we're all
really stressed out and we put on Congfu Hustle and
it was just one of those moments where we all
just like sat down and chilled and vibed and it
was dope. And so I think Comfu Hustle is that
film for me and my family, Like it's a comfort
film and it's just so silly and fun, Like you

(44:16):
can't like Comfu Hustle. So that's my film. That's the
film that I'd leave to the world in my will say,
you are a towering, magnificent man. Is there anything you
would like to tell people to look out for or
listen to coming months? Maybe if you ever finished The Power,

(44:36):
if I ever finished this job called The Power for Amazon,
then then yeah, maybe one day you guys can see it.
It is coming. I think twenty twenty three it'll be
it'll be out. I think that's that's the main one.
But other than that, ted Lasso three is on its
way and it's nearly done. And when that's done, that
would be really cool and it'll be really nice to
ted Lasso and The Power whenever, whenever that arrives, and

(45:00):
just so we've got it, on here. If neither of
us are married bout sixty, neither of us't married about sixty,
and we're shocking up great towns, towns still yet to be,
yet to be um. You know, we have to probably finds.
We'll thrash out the terms and then we'll sort out.
But we're also pitching good cop, Backup, Badup yea, and
grown ups bit old lads. Those are our future film projects.

(45:24):
We have to film lads, las lads. It might be otherways.
Want to be okay, yeah, agreed, Yeah, all right, I
will stop the recording now. Thank you for being coming
back to life. We missed you, Thank you for having
me back. I'm alive, I'm alive. Goodbye. So that was
episode two hundred and eleven. Head over to the Patreon

(45:45):
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(46:06):
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