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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Cole is on the phone today for a first day
follow up and he's getting ghosted by a woman named Aria.
So in a few minutes we'll call her and see
if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe
get him a second date. But first, Cole, how long
has it been since he talked to Aria?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Hey, guys, uh, it's been a few weeks.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Enough to wear.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
You know, something's up for sure, and I'd like to
know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Are you still thinking you like Aria or you just
want to know what's up? No?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I mean I definitely like her. I thought there was
a vibe and you know, it was a good night.
I just I honestly don't know what what's like?
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Do tump to this sometime?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
You know? I don't know. Let's come through to the top.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Why don't you just tell us about the date? Then?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Sure? Yeah. So we started at this wine bar and
it wasn't one of those pretentious places like it's actually
was really super chill and viby. It had string lights
on the ceiling and shelves of books everywhere, and it's
a little stage and the corner, and there was actually
a guy there playing acoustic covers, which is perfect because
(01:05):
he music is my kind of thing. That's sort of
what I do. And so anyway, we ordered a flight
and Aria didn't pretend to know all the wine turns,
which is cute and fun. And she took a sip
and said, you know, this one tastes like sadness, and
I started laughing because that's funny, and you know, she's
funny like that, doesn't try too hard, and it was
just like just a free phone sort of vibe. Then
(01:28):
we get into like one of those conversations when you
kind of don't expect on a first date. You know.
We talked about our parents, about how we grew up,
what we want out of our life, you know, kind
of deep stuff. She told me about traveling solo and
how she's addicted to books she can't finish, and I
admitted I still write songs in my notebook like a
teenager because I'm a musician and didn't learned about that.
(01:50):
The barktown was book clothing tabs, and neither of us
pretty much was moving, like we were just kind of
like just gazing, you know, kept talking to each other,
leaning in like there was no one around us.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
The room had disappeared.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
It was really sweet. She had this way of looking
at me where you know, I felt seen. You know,
you don't get that too often. You know, if you've
got any you guys date, but like it's it's not
easy out there.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Do you think she felt the same way?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I think so. For sure there was an energy there.
If she wasn't liking it or feeling I assumed she
would have sort of say I'm gonna get away, I'm
gonna get going. She didn't say that at all. Yeah,
you know she's different, she's sharp, you know, she challenges me,
and but she also has like this amazing stuffs died
to her. The way she listened. There wasn't just small talk,
you know what I mean, it was I don't know,
(02:33):
it just felt real.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
You like her. What could have gone wrong?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Then it's a great question. I don't know. At the
end of at the end of the day, she said,
she suggested, I don't know, maybe heading back to my place,
which okay, I wanted to, but she had a few
glasses of wine and I didn't want anything to happen
when we were both totally clear headed. You know what,
we weren't very much like. We weren't. We had a
few drinks, so we're like, we were just kind of
(03:02):
buzzing and having a nice time. My mom raised me
to respect women, so for me, I called it a
night right there. You know. So maybe or maybe she
thinks I'm not really into her by doing that, or
she's embarrassed that I said no, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Women don't take it very well when they get turned
down after asserting themselves.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Kind of like, but we do love a respectful man.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
We do love a respectful man, so don't change that.
But if she didn't understand that's what was happening, did.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
You explain it to her, did you say sorry, I'm
a respectful man.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I did say that.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I texted her the next day, the weeks how she
was on and next when she didn't respond.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Cole is on the phone and Cole is getting ghosted
by Aria. So we're about to call her and see
if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe
get him a second date. But first, Cole, why don't
you break down your date again for us one more time?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Real quick, yeah, so real quick. I mean we went
to this really cool wine bar. We were vibing. We
spent a couple hours there, you know, the bark and
brought us our check. We were still sort of gazing
at each other. They're just telling every time I'm not
in a rush to get out of there. And then
she sort of suggested head back to her plate. But
you know, we would drink in. I want to be respectful,
and I said, no, that's okay, I'm gonna call it
(04:11):
a night here. And so to me, maybe think she
thinks I'm not into her, or she's embarrassed or whatever.
But I text her the day after and she didn't respond,
and it's been like ghost town ever since.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Okay, well, are you ready for us to call her
and see if you tell us? Why? Yes? All right,
here we go. Hello, Hi, man, I speak to Aria? Please?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Yes, this is she?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Hey, Aria, how are you? This is a radio show.
It's called the Jebel Show.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Hi are My name is Nina.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Hi, I'm Victoria, and my name is Jubal. How are you.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
I'm a little confused.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
It's a radio show. It's called The Jubile Show. Have
you ever listened to it?
Speaker 4 (04:55):
I think I feel like I've heard of it.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, okay, Well, we do a segment on the show.
It's called the first Date follow Up. That's where if
you go on a date with someone and you ghost them,
that person can email us to ask you why you're
ghosting them. And we got an email about you from somebody. Yeah, yeah,
any idea?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Coal?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Coal?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Do you mind telling us?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Why?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (05:28):
This is so strange. He sent me a song that
I felt like was a trap. He like wrote me
a whole song about how he felt seeing me for
the very first time, and he told you that we've
been on one date, right.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yes, yeah, it was way too much.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
It's like very love bombing, saying all the right things,
like everything that you should say to get someone to
fall fast, and it just felt so manipulative.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
It felt so love Bomby.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
You didn't think it was sweet that somebody wrote you
a song after meeting you.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Okay, let me wait, hold on, let me pull this
up for you for a second. It was weird, but
he wrote for me. Okay, your laugh lit the room
like a spark in the night.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
One glass of red wine and everything felt right. I
don't need forever to know what I've found with you, Ariya.
My feet never touched the ground.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
That's so love bomby, and it's kind of just like icky, Okay,
that's insane. After like a couple hours together, he.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Sounds like an artist, like he was just inspired by you.
Have you been loved bomb before?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Aria?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Do you feel like you're cautious about that type of
behavior for a reason.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
I've definitely been loved bomb before, and so I know
I'm very cautious. But I think I'm for a reason
because I think it's so easy to fall for love bombing,
because it just feels good and it feels like without
seeming like a self obsessed.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
It's like, yeah, of course you'd like me.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Of course I'm really great, you know, Like, but you know,
I think it was like it was very strong, very
like head over heels, my feet never touched the ground,
like the good first date.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
But damn.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Money, can I jump in?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
As on the phone listening and wants to talk to you?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
What hey?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
The phone was me being honest. My mom raised me
to believe women are goddesses, Like I don't fake that stuff.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
You're doing it right now though, Like you're saying exactly
what I'm supposed to want to hear to like make
me think that your like head over heels crazy about me, And.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah, so wait, so treating you with respect is a problem.
But I didn't take you home because I didn't want
to cross the line. That's not being you know, if
you love that it's this basic decency. I thought, well,
it's not just.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
You think that like like makes you this saintly person.
I just suggested that we go back to yours because honestly,
it was.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Like, in the moment, it felt right. I felt like
continuing the night. But that's just physical cool.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
That's not like love. That's not like love at first sight.
And that's what you did with this song. It's so loaded.
It's like so feelings heavy.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
I mean yeah, yeah, I don't. Someone hurt you, obviously,
and someone someone must have think a love song is
turning you in a different direction or something like. That's
not what this was about. Like, this is me being
open and kind and vulnerable.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Well, guys, I read you the short Bird and I
read you verse one.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Do you think you would have been more comfortable if
he dedicated a song to you that already exists, versus
like writing one I don't.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Know, like maybe right song, but then maybe don't like
give it to me until maybe we've seen each other
a few more times, and it's like I have to confess,
I wrote this song about the way that I felt
about you after our first date like that.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
That would have been so romantic.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Then let me prove that, let me prove not all
men are the same. Let mean, I'm not asking for
forever here, I just want a second date. No songs
this time, just up.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Oh my god, you know, just did it again?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Would you like to go? We'll pay for it. I mean,
I like to hear that.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Are you?
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Oh god, you just don't quit? But can you hear
the way? And I'm it's not even your fault, like
you're an artist, I get it.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
I'm not happy forever.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Yeah, I think that if he can kind of like
just stile it back a little bit and not be
so waxing poetic, I could.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I mean, you're you're asking me to change like who
I am. They're asking me to change this core value
of who I am. I can't do that, you know
what I'm saying? This is who I am. I mean
here's the thing. If I'm into you, then I'm into you.
And I'm not gonna to be bashful about it. I'm
going to let you know. You know. And we had
a moment that night, and it was sweet, it was tender,
it was kind. You know. I didn't want to go
home with you, obviously, I want to be respectful, and
(10:09):
I don't you know what I mean, Like, this is
what a gentleman does. And I think your smile is
a good sense and the sunset for that thing is
beaman and I you know, there's something here that makes
me pull out this poetry and motion type stuff and
you should be here. You should know about it.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Right, I mean, I think that this is who he
is through and through.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
It's hard to not hard to wonder if you know,
has she sent that exact song to another girl and
swapped out the name in this a move? But like
it just feels so performative, but maybe it's genuine.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
I've written songs, but this one is specifically for you.
This isn't for anybody else. This is what inspired me
to write. I shared it with you. I'm not your
typical you know musician you see on the corner of
the street or playing at the bar. That's is something
wholesome and I don't know how I want to prove
with you, but let me go out again. Let's try
it again. Let's go to a second date. And I'm
not going to bring my guitar. See this is real
(11:09):
at least given all the chance, what do you have
to lose. These guys are gonna pay for work.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Come on, sure, yeah you can just kind of get
to know each other on some real on a real level.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
No guitar, no notebooks, don't write.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
A poem and ethic poem about you know, my parking skills.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I would like that.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Congratulations, got another date?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Amazing, amazing, this is this actually what was worth it?
Thank you guys. It's good and Aria, this is this
is wonderful. I'm excited to see you again. And you know,
there is no flower in this world that is as
budding as you are. Just know that, oh wow, you
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Will first date, follow up,