He Lied in the Escape Room… and That Was the End

Zach thought his big swing paid off—an escape room date, drinks afterward, a kiss to cap the night. But two weeks later, he's still waiting to hear from Lilah.

So what went wrong?

In this episode of First Date Follow Up, we get Lilah on the phone—and her reason for ghosting Zach is surprisingly specific: he lied during the escape room game to get extra clues. That one small deception raised a giant red flag for her.

Was it just a harmless game strategy or a glimpse into his character?
And wait—what does Lilah’s hair color have to do with anything?

This one spirals fast.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys
online at advocatesla dot com.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Normally we do to catch a Cheater here, but something
happened yesterday that was so insane the continuation of yesterday's
to catch a cheater will happen next hour, so we
figured we'll do a first day follow up here instead.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
So here's your first day follow up.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Zach is on the phone today for our first day
follow up, and he's getting ghosted by Lilah. So in
a few minutes we'll call her see if she'll tell
us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him another date.
But first, Zach, how long has it been since you
heard from Lilah?

Speaker 4 (00:31):
Like maybe two weeks?

Speaker 5 (00:34):
It's been a minute.

Speaker 6 (00:35):
Were you trying to hit her up in that time?

Speaker 1 (00:38):
So I did.

Speaker 7 (00:39):
Message her like a few times, and they may or
may not have sent the memes, but like good ones,
like you know, like like funny, like jokey ones, not
like desperate memes.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Okay, not like memes of somebody crying with a phone
call them back like funny me.

Speaker 7 (01:00):
I mean like some somewhere in between those two.

Speaker 8 (01:04):
Okay, I don't know how that is going to play out.
But let's let's go backwards. Why don't you tell us
about the date, Zach? How was it?

Speaker 4 (01:12):
I mean, I thought the date was fine. I thought
everything went well. Basically, it's actually kind of cool. I thought,
fits it up.

Speaker 8 (01:21):
First date.

Speaker 7 (01:22):
It's usually boring, let's do an escape room. So it
was fun, but like it was low key stressful, you know,
like but like teamwork first date, you know, go big
or go home, right, take big swings, got some drinks. Afterwards,
things were obviously more relaxed and less like pressure filled again,
good sign. We stayed until the bar closed, like we

(01:43):
were just talking and like, I don't know, she's so
like so she's super smart, like annoyingly smart, like in
a good way. Like she's funny. I don't know, Like
even though I was nervous, I was laughing, but it
was like not just nervous laughing.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
You know what I'm saying. So it ended there was
a kiss, not like you know, rom com like in
the rain like whatever moment.

Speaker 7 (02:07):
Okay, I saw a kiss more than a peck, less
than a makeout, you know, So like I thought that
was good.

Speaker 6 (02:13):
Yeah, who kissed too? Or was it mutual?

Speaker 4 (02:17):
I made the first move, you know, but she leaned
in ninety.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
And ten, right, Like, let's say it didn't seem like
she was just kissing you because she had to like
yeah I've been there, no.

Speaker 7 (02:29):
Cause that's like tech, that's like a peck, right, and
then like it's quick, this is more than a peck.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Okay, right, all right? And how did you end things
with her? Like what did you did she say she
wanted to see you again anything like that?

Speaker 7 (02:40):
I mean I didn't specifically say like what are you
doing next week? I just was like I agree, yeah,
like you know, like I'll call you or whatever, you know,
I'll text you and she's like, okay, cool.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
And then that that was. That was it.

Speaker 8 (02:52):
Is there anything that happened on the date that could
have thrown it off? Like what went wrong?

Speaker 6 (02:56):
You think?

Speaker 7 (02:58):
I mean sometimes I can at like competitive when I mean,
you know, like playing games and stuff.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
So in Escape Room, like maybe I was getting to
like passionates I guess like, hey you.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
Grab that key, like the things?

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Did you freak out at all, like like a huge
freakout or something.

Speaker 7 (03:16):
No, we escaped, which was nice. It wasn't one of
those like horror ones where like zombies.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
If you don't get it.

Speaker 7 (03:21):
It was just like, hey, escape, you.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Know, escape the room.

Speaker 7 (03:26):
It gets hectic and a little stressful, but like in
a good way.

Speaker 6 (03:30):
OK.

Speaker 7 (03:30):
So I felt like it's possible that maybe I rubbed
it the wrong way by being like.

Speaker 5 (03:35):
Oh, I grabbed that key and you know, but she
was kind.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Of doing the same thing to me. So I don't know, so.

Speaker 6 (03:40):
Like be honest with yourself.

Speaker 8 (03:41):
Was it more like giving orders or was it like
more of a playful you do it, no, and.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Then I'll do this.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
I want to say it was playful, but it might
have been ordered.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (03:52):
That's the thing is, sometimes you can't see yourself. If
I was like standing outside myself watching maybe, but I'm
saying I know I can't get like that.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
I just don't know if that's how or maybe she
read it wrong.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
You know, maybe you threw a look and you weren't
like annoyed at her, but maybe we're thinking about something
she's like, oh, wow, you know what I mean, Yeah,
that happens.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (04:16):
One tent how in there.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
I would kind of explain why that would probably not
get you another date most definitely.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Yeah, I don't think I did that.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
I didn't do that. Cool?

Speaker 2 (04:33):
All right, man, Well, we'll play us all come back
and then call her and see if she'll tell us
why she's ghosting you and maybe get you another date.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Okay, appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
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Speaker 2 (04:47):
If you're just joining us for today's first Day follow up.
Zach is on the phone and he's getting ghosted by
E Lilah. So we're about to call her and see
if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe
get him another date. But first, Zach, why don't you
catch us up on your situation?

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Yeah, I mean she is super gorgeous, super smart.

Speaker 7 (05:04):
I felt like, okay, let's you know, like, let's go big.
And we went to an escape room first date. I
felt like that was a big swing and I thought
it went pretty well. We did kiss, we escaped the room,
he went to drinks afterwards, kiss at the end of
the date. Ghostings since then, I feel like maybe maybe

(05:24):
if I had to guess, like, I know, I can
get competitive, so maybe I was a little competitive in
the escape room. Maybe you know, she felt like I
was too pushy. I'm not sure that could potentially be it.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
I don't know know. Okay, are you ready for us
to call her?

Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (05:41):
All right, here we go. Hello, I may seek a
lia please.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
This is Slilah.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Hi Leila, how are you?

Speaker 2 (06:02):
My name is Jewbel. I'm calling from a radio show.
It's called The Jewbel Show.

Speaker 6 (06:05):
Hi, Lilah, I'm Nina also on the show. All right,
I'm Victoria.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
Wow. Hi, So this is wait. So this is one
of those radio shows.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
It's one of those. Have you ever listened to the
Jebel Show before?

Speaker 5 (06:19):
I'm sure here and there, I guess I'm not. I
don't know. I usually just kind of listen to whatever's
on my phone. I guess.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Okay, Well, hopefully it's us sometimes if that'd be cool
if you will check it out. But anyway, we do
a segment on our show and it's called the first
Day follow Up. What that is is if you go
on a day with somebody and you end up ghosting them,
they can email us to get you on the phone
and ask why you're ghosting them. So we actually got
an email about you from someone who does have us
on their phone.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
Okay, Oh, my god. So, so people actually do this? Yeah,
but I didn't think this was real.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Okay, yeah, they do actually do this, and you're one
of those people right now.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
How's it feel?

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Yay?

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Congrats?

Speaker 5 (07:00):
Oh I don't know. And wait, what is this about?
I'm so sorry? What is this about?

Speaker 7 (07:06):
Again?

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Well, you went on a date with a guy named
Zach recently.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
Mm okay, yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Zach said he really liked you, but he hasn't heard
from you since the date. It's been like two weeks,
and he's wondering if you wouldn't mind telling us why
you're ghosting him.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
Oh, I mean, yeah, I'm ghosting him because he's a liar.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
A liar?

Speaker 6 (07:25):
What is he lying about?

Speaker 5 (07:28):
You know?

Speaker 4 (07:28):
Well?

Speaker 9 (07:29):
I mean I thought the date was fun and cute,
but after the date, I just realized that I can't
really trust anything.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
He says.

Speaker 7 (07:36):
Okay, hold up, what can't you What can't you trust
what I said? What if I say that was a lie?

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Love?

Speaker 3 (07:43):
That's Zach.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
He's actually on the phone listening and wants to talk
to you.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
And oh, my god, hi liar because.

Speaker 9 (07:56):
An escape room and he basically we told this whole
like backstory that was not true to the escape room
staff to get extra clues to.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
Be able to come up with a lie.

Speaker 9 (08:09):
That that quick is just disturbing to me, Like that's like,
that's not okay.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Do you think the fact that he came up with
a lie real quick, like in an escape room is
like you'll do that all the time?

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 9 (08:21):
I mean, I can't put it past them, and that fast,
like it was so fast.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
As a good liar myself, she probably has a point here.

Speaker 6 (08:31):
Thank you for the self awareness, bra.

Speaker 9 (08:35):
And for something so small as to like get free
clues like that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
Wait a minute, hold up, I.

Speaker 7 (08:41):
Got the clues right, We needed to get out of
the escape room, right, Like, I'm competitive, that's not I
wasn't lying.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
I didn't lie to them and tell them like something,
I don't understand that I'm not lying.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
I'm confused. Okay, but that's what a liar would say.

Speaker 7 (08:58):
Well, we got out of the escape room, didn't we, Like,
wasn't that what we're supposed to?

Speaker 5 (09:02):
I mean yeah, but yeah, but at what costs? You
mean here we are okay?

Speaker 7 (09:08):
What I don't what do you consider a lie? Like,
if I'm a liar, then you're a liar because you.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Have brown hair?

Speaker 5 (09:15):
What is that supposed to mean?

Speaker 4 (09:16):
Because on your dating profile you have blonde hair, So
I guess you're a liar thing that you have one
colored hair and you don't.

Speaker 9 (09:26):
Okay, that's not even close to the same thing, But
that's however you want to feel.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
It's fine.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Whatever liar hold each other names all day doesn't mean
it's real.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Lilo, would you like to go on another date? Was
that will pay for it?

Speaker 9 (09:43):
I don't think so. I just don't really think I
can trust him to be honest?

Speaker 4 (09:47):
But was that a lie? So you really mean you
do you want to go on a day?

Speaker 9 (09:55):
Look, I'm sorry you're clearly triggered, but like you did lie,
you lied, and you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
I want to know what you're referring to. Is what
I think you're talking about. That is not lying. Just
by omitting the truth is not a lie.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
Like it's just omitting the truth is a lie. Keeping
the truth from someone got a lie? That is how
a lie is defined.

Speaker 7 (10:17):
So I'm just supposed to say everything that I know
in the entire world, every person that I know, to
make sure that I'm not lying by not saying everything
in the world just because I happen to know a
lot about that last name, Like I could be that
guy's uncle.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Like who's to say you don't know, I don't.

Speaker 6 (10:34):
Know what are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (10:36):
All right, well, Zach, I'm sorry.

Speaker 7 (10:38):
No. Second, that could be the truth, like like ancestors,
dot common and whatnot, Like that could be the truth.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
You don't know. I'm thinking you don't know either, So
it's a lie that you know everything.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
Okay, but then she said, like it was supposed to
be no liar, lying, lying around your liar.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
No.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
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