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November 3, 2025 11 mins

James is convinced his first date with Natalie went great… but now she’s ghosting him, and he’s blaming it on one tiny moment involving a shared appetizer. Was it really the pretzel? Or was there something deeper he had no clue about? This First Date Follow Up gets surprisingly honest, and proves that a profile photo can lead to very wrong assumptions. Dating communication fails, ghosting mystery, sports bar mix-ups, modern dating etiquette, this one has all the relatable chaos. Listen to hear what detail almost ruined the date… and if he actually gets a second shot.


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
James is on the phone today for a first date
follow up, and unfortunately he's getting ghosted by a date
he went on with, a Natalie James. Before we get
into your date, man, how long has it been, as
you heard from the Natalie.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
It's been almost three days.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Are you sure you're getting ghosted?

Speaker 5 (00:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (00:27):
Well, you know, I would have got back in touch
with somebody before now if if I was interested.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
So yeah, I kind of get that feeling.

Speaker 6 (00:35):
Okay, It just didn't feel like it was going to
be that long when we left things, so I was
just a little surprised.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
Okay, so tell us about that. What happened on your date?

Speaker 3 (00:46):
We ad met it a sports bar.

Speaker 7 (00:48):
You know.

Speaker 6 (00:48):
The reason that I suggested that we meet there was,
you know, I saw on her profile that she was
at a baseball game and she was having a great time.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
So I'm like, oh, okay, she likes sports and we'll
go to a sports bar.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Good was she drinking in the picture you saw, because
then you would also know she also liked to drink.
Put those two things together.

Speaker 6 (01:07):
I looked like she was having a beer and of course,
you know sports bars, there's a lot of good beer options.
I'm like, okay, you know, that's her vibe, that's her,
that's her you know, that's her kind of environment. So
I was like, all right, this will be good. And yeah,
I thought it really did go well. Told some jokes
and she laughed a little bit here and there, you know,
I mean it was a little loud there, and the

(01:28):
game was on and you know, we're watching the game
and things. But but yeah, I mean, I just she's
just beautiful and I kind of felt a really good connection.
And yeah, I just felt like we'd be texting or
talking by now.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
And what did I miss?

Speaker 6 (01:46):
I mean, there wasn't anything that was standing out to
me like oh, you know, I really screwed this up,
or that she wasn't really interested. So I'm curious, like
what what was it? I think maybe because I don't
know if it's maybe because I, you know, we split
an appetizer.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Maybe I ate a little too much of it.

Speaker 6 (02:06):
Maybe that like we've got one of those pretzels where
you like differ it in the you know, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
You know, a person's appetizer etiquette. I believe can tell
you a lot about their personality.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
It does.

Speaker 6 (02:17):
Actually, yeah, maybe because she wasn't eating that that half
and I started to pick away at that a little.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
My mind was done.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
You can tell a lot.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
You can tell a lot James, based off of an
appetiser etiquette, because if somebody is really taking over the appetizer,
you know how they're going to be in a relationship.
It's going to be their relationship, right, you know.

Speaker 6 (02:38):
But I didn't want to be wasteful though, Well I
think that might be a good time.

Speaker 7 (02:42):
I don't think it's a bad thing that you were
eating so much of the pretzel. But it's more like
how you communicate that.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Like are you gonna eat that? Yeah? Are you cool?
Because you know I want to eat that.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
You know, it was kind of chilling there on the
plate for a good while.

Speaker 6 (02:54):
Okay, I figured it out, Okay, a fair game, and
we had, you know, kind of moved on from here,
deaf one.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
I tell you from experience, this is a red flag
if somebody if you're having if you're sharing an appetizer
with someone and then they throw like their napkin on
it before you're even done, you know they don't care
about you at all. The appetizer test, what do you
mean throw a napkin on it? It means like they're done, right,
they're done eating with the appetizer. It's their appetizer, but
an appetizer if it's for two people, you're splitting it.

(03:20):
So they throw like like maybe they're used ranch and
a napkin on it, Like I'm done, but you're not
done yet. They didn't check with you. It shows they
have no regard for humankind at all.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Wow, I don't think James, No, you didn't do that,
did you. James? No, no, yeah, you don't sound like
a sociopathomy.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Okay, we'll play that, play a song, come back and
call her and see if we can find out why
you're getting ghosted and maybe try to get you another
date next all.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
Right, all right, a right place on comeback beat your
first day follow up?

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Right after this, James is on the phone today for
a first date follow up, and James isn't getting either
of the te's that he wants. He wants to be
talking and texting with Natalie, but he's not getting either
of those teas. So we're gonna try to figure out
why he's getting ghosted. And then see if we canet
him another day. Were about to call her in a second, James,
real quick, refresh everybody's memory on your date with Natalie.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Well, I thought it went really great.

Speaker 6 (04:14):
We went out and met a sports bar, which I
had suggested. I figured maybe she was into sports because
I saw in her profile pictures out of a ballgame.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Beers had fun. So we got there.

Speaker 6 (04:26):
You know, it was a little noisy, game was on,
but you know, I thought it was going well. You
talked about some cool stuff, had an appetizer, and yeah,
you know, I didn't get any indication at all that
it went poorly. In fact, I thought i'd be, you know,
hearing from her the next day. I was really excited
to kind of keep things, keep things rolling, and I

(04:46):
just never did. So I don't know if there's something
missing or what I got.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
To find out. If it's because you ain't too much
at the pretzel.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Right right, I don't know, put an appetizer. Yeah, I'm
thinking eat more than half of it. That offensive. I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
I really have no All right, we're going to call
her right now and see if we figure out here
we go, Ready, yep, let's do it.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Let's do it.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Okay, here we go. Hello, Hi, misspeak to Natalie. Please
isn't she?

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (05:23):
What's up? Natalie? How are you?

Speaker 2 (05:24):
My name is Jewbell. I host a radio show. It's
on the radio and it's called the Jebel Show.

Speaker 7 (05:28):
Hi, Natalie, I do that too with Jewbaul Victoria.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
Hi.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Hi, there's so there's three of us on the phone.
I'm not sure if you've ever heard the show before.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
I've dabbled into your show here and there.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
We're calling you today because we actually got an email
about you from somebody who dabbles with our show a lot.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
Oh, okay, who might that be?

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Well, it's also a guy that you dabbled with for
a second, but now you're ghosting him.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
His name is James.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
James email does because he wants to know why you're
ghosting him.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Well, there's there's plenty reasons why I'm going to see him.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Oh what are they do you want telling us?

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Well, we went to a sports bar and he wanted
to watch the game, and you know, it was loud,
it was noisy.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
He wanted to share an appetizer and he ate most
of it and didn't really ask if I wanted the
last part of it or anything.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
How'd you feel about that? Just curious? Here we go?

Speaker 5 (06:32):
Oh my god?

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Like everyone should know, like, hey, like it's great to
ask the person other person that you're sharing with first
to make sure it's you know, good to go.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
You know.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
I think that's a rule that everyone should know.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
And so if.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
It's just sitting there, though, do we really care?

Speaker 5 (06:51):
Well, I'm a slow eater, so like I like to
savor my food and such.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
So he just didn't really give you a shot to
eat much of the appetizer. Kind of took too much
the appetizer.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
Yeah, that why you're.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
Guys seeing there's more to it. So we barely had conversation.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
He would make lame sports jokes and tons, but not
much conversation. And I felt like he just really wanted
to watch the game versus really get to know me.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Oh all right, So you don't feel like he really
paid much attention to you even though he asked you
on a date?

Speaker 5 (07:29):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 7 (07:31):
So did you guys talk about anything he said? You
guys had great conversation.

Speaker 5 (07:36):
I mean he talked about the stats and such of the.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Team, but that's really it, And I don't really like,
I don't really like sports that much, so there's that.

Speaker 5 (07:48):
So for me, like, I'm not going to care about that.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
I definitely looked like going to sports games because you know,
if there's a great atmosphere, you get to stress up,
you're with your friends, you have it through.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
And then also he did try to order my.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
Drink too, did you get it right?

Speaker 1 (08:08):
I'm not much of a beer person, more of like
a hardsider person, so I had to step in and
stand for myself too.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
So you know, wait a minute, wait a minute. That
was the same drink you had in the.

Speaker 6 (08:19):
Photo on your profile, So I mean, I don't know
how I could have gotten that wrong.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
I thought that was the right choice.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Natalie listening, but listening this whole time, wants to talk
to you.

Speaker 6 (08:27):
I am so sorry. I I thought you wanted to
watch the game. That's why I wasn't saying anything. I
thought you were into it.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
No, I wasn't.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
It was just I rather have conversation.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
And also that beer that was in my hand was
the first time ever tried it and I didn't like it.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
You know, I kind of based a lot off of
that profile picture you were at a game.

Speaker 6 (08:52):
It looked like you were having fun, but I thought, oh,
you know, you love sports, so yeah, I thought it
was being polite by letting me watch the game. And
I am so embarrassed because I'm remembering all the sports
jokes I.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Made, and those trolley came off really lame. I'm really sorry.
I'm really sorry.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
James.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Let me interrupt real quick. I basically asked you, hey,
let's not talk about the game anymore.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
Let's get to.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Know each other. You know.

Speaker 6 (09:20):
I'm I don't have an explanation for that. I mean,
I may have just been a little nervous, you know,
because I don't know you. You're you're you're a beautiful woman.
And I was having a great time and I thought
things for going well, and I might have just been
a little a little nervous, and I yeah, I really
kind of misjudged this, and I'm sorry, Natalie.

Speaker 7 (09:38):
Doesn't he get points for actually paying attention to the
photo though, like he really tried to do this before you?

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, well he could have asked me what things I
like to do, versus just face off with the photo.

Speaker 6 (09:53):
I'm really sorry, Natalie. It's just I am kind of
nervous because You're really.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Pretty, I miss better than what other people have pulled
me before.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
But sure beautiful.

Speaker 6 (10:09):
Oh my gosh, I mean, how could anybody say anything
contrary to that?

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Totally?

Speaker 6 (10:15):
I mean absolutely, My impression was beautiful inside and you know,
I mean on the inside too. I mean I just
really got that impression about you. And yeah, I mean
that maybe just threw me a little bit. No, I
think you're a great person. I really really do.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
You don't know me like we did on anything.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
I would like to get to know you, I really would.

Speaker 6 (10:39):
And I'm just really sorry that I kind of misjudged
some things or thought I was really super slick by
making a lot of assumptions based on your photo that I.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Was not the way to go.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
I mean, the advertiser wasn't.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
That great either.

Speaker 6 (10:56):
Yeah, I was worried that might have been one of
the reasons I didn't hear from you, and I regret that.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Well, Natalie, would you like to go out with James
again on another date? We'll pay for it.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
I want to add.

Speaker 6 (11:08):
Before Natalie before you answer, that if you agree to
go out on another date with me, we can go
wherever you want, you order whatever you like, any drink,
any food, if any pretzels, as you want. I want
you to take the lead on that. You can even
order my drink, my food if you want. You choose
what I wear, any of it. It is completely in

(11:28):
your hands.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Yeah, pull back. Sounds like James really wants to go
with you again. What do you think I mean?

Speaker 1 (11:37):
That was a dangerous statement that I will hold him to.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
Uh so, Yeah, I will go on a second date
with him.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Yay, Wow that worked all right? James it to his
next day, ATTENSI.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Whatever Natalie wants, Natalie gets ye, congratulations, ju will first
date fall up.
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