October 7, 2025 • 39 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's Scotty Brown, Eric Kratz, and Kevin Pullar. We're going
to first talk about the Cubs and Brewers, and then
we will get to the Phillies and the Dodgers and Gratz.
You used to play for this Milwaukee team and actually
had a nice little run during a time period where
they thought maybe they could make the World Series. Very
strong start for this team. They take down the Cubs again.
They've scored sixteen runs in their first two games, and
(00:26):
now they're one went away from another National League Championship
Series appearance. Your thoughts on what you're seeing so far.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
The problem that the Brewers had going into the playoffs
was it didn't hit enough homers.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Screw that.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
They took care of that tonight. They're doing it every
which way. And then they're like, ah, you know what,
we had five days off. We're gonna go ahead and
do an open wait in the bullpen gate Wait a minute,
no miss is gonna pitch all the things that you
would think the teams that get the brakes wouldn't do,
and they did it, and let's go brew crew.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
And we were texting KP you know, Kratz and AJ
and me about the decision by Milwaukee to go with
Ashby as the opener he had pitched in Game one,
and to let him try and feast against the top
of the order for the Cubs. Cubs countered. Cubs got
three runs off the Brewers in the first, just like
in Game one. They were able to strike first, but
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it didn't go far. They didn't score the rest of
the damn game.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
They knew what they were doing. But I mean, it's
obviously to kind of just at least appear that I
left he's going to go multiple winnings and try to
set their lineup in the bench out. I mean, it's
kind of the new way of kind of doing it.
Especially when teams are kind of built off platoons, you've
got to kind of try to counter that in any
way possible.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Okay, So first off, I want to talk about Jackson Cheerio.
He is battling a hamstring issue. He does not look
on Kevin. It helps when you can hit dingers at
twenty one years old and then you don't have to
worry as much about doing crazy things on the base paths.
What are you seeing from him in the first couple games.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah, just hit dingers and stay healthy obviously, then being
able to close out the series as soon as possible
for his health is going to be the most beneficial them.
Obviously going out and scoring a ton of runs and
at some point they're going to have to make a
business decision, and you know, hopefully they have a big
enough lead and they can sub them out on defense
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or if he's able to get on base and bringing
a pinch runner. But the great thing about being twenty
one is some of those things he a little bit quicker,
So hopefully it's very mild, and youth is on his side.
So off to a good start, you know, off day,
you know, hopefully they can, for his sake and for
their team's sake, they can close it out as soon
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as possible and just give them as much rest as
humanly possible.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
So that was the three run homer, and that took
this to a seven to three game from the four
to three lead that the Brewers had. What'd you think
of that sequence there, Kratz? There was one oh one
point four, which, according to Sarah Langx is the hardest
pitch to hit for a home run in the postseason
since they started pitch tracking in what was it two
(03:18):
thousand and eight, I think she said, or maybe stack
cast I think she meant pitch tracking. But but anyway,
I mean plenty of challenged him. I think with three
pitches that were over the middle quadrant and third one,
it's like, yeah, this is one of the best young
hitters in the sport. Stop challenging like that.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I mean, you have to challenge him. To me, you
have to challenge him. You can't come in plentcy. You
can't come in and be like, yeah, I wonder how
I'm gonna get him out now. If they're like, hey,
you know what, we gotta throw that banger down in
his zone or something. But for him to be able
to get on top of that ball where it was,
I think it was a little out of the zone.
If not, it was top of the zone and we'll
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put it out the center field at twenty one, while
KP said, this dude is going to heal up quickly,
like he's doing stuff at twenty one that you're not
supposed to be able to do. I just pulled up
his postseason numbers. He's hitting five seventy one in his
two postseasons. He's got fifteen playing appearances, eight hits, two dangers,
a double and he's struck out one time. He's twenty one.
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I mean, what are we looking at? Are we looking
at Andrew Jones?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Here?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Is this what we're looking at? Just reborn? Hopefully his
hamstring is fine. They put they brought Lockridge in. I
think Murph is very aware that he's dealing with something.
But he was able to go to the line and
track that ball that can kind of be tough sometimes
because it comes back and make that catch in foul territory.
Lockridge can come in, pinch, run and come in for defense.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
For him, he is getting it right now. KP.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Did you ever face him Anaga?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I did I face him last year? I faced him
last year. Yeah, he's obviously they they're in the same division,
you know. Me facing them for the first time, it
was the first at bat was obviously the most challenging.
It's not elite stuff. It's it's very good command. There
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is some carry to the fastball, there's some deception to
the split finger, but that's a challenge when you get
lined up with a team in your division. Like there's
no real secrets anymore. Like he doesn't necessarily have the
ability to outstuff you. You know, he's so relying on command,
there's no secrets anymore. And if he's not going to
command his pitches, you know the opposing team is going
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to take advantage of you know, what he has to offer.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, that was my thing Kratz is he's given him
so many home runs for a few months now. Second
half of the season, he gave up by far the
most home runs in baseball. I believe twenty two was
the number they were showing. The next highest was like
maybe sixteen or seventeen. So did you notice anything Kratz
that's leading to these issues consistently for him lately? I
mean every start he's given up at least a homer.
And then when you're taking on what's one of the
(06:04):
best offenses in baseball, you turned them into not just
a contact hitting team, but now a power hitting team.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I saw a thing or perceive velocity at the plate,
meaning what it looks like to the hitter. Ever since
he came back from the IL, I forget when it
was early in the season, the life on his fastball
just doesn't seem like it's there.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Is it the league getting used to him?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Is the league what kp was saying like it's kind
of awkward because it comes from a low slot. I
remember watching him last year, and I remember when we
first came into the league, guys were talking about possibly
like a long relief type of guy, and other guys
were saying, this guy could be a number two in
your rotation. He made the All Star team, came on
the show, had a great first year, and I don't
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think he ever came back from his injury fully one hundred.
In the sense that when you don't have and this
is I guess why everybody chases velocity. You don't have
the elite velocity, and you don't have some kind of
like freakish talent where you're stepping closer, you're throwing from higher,
it's tougher to get away with mistakes, especially when your
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ball is flat. And then boys start tee and off
they start, they start getting on top of balls and
they're not found them straight back, and then you're able
to get to something else to strike them out. And
that's what it seemed like in the second half we
were seeing from him FT fam.
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(08:33):
a guy who hit a three run home run off
in Mianaga, Andrew Vaughn, Because if I recall KP, you
did spend some time with Andrew Vaughn and he got
the gift of his life by getting picked up by
the Milwaukee Brewers after coiling in the minor leagues at
one point this season with the White Sox, He's picked
(08:54):
up by a team that is really good at finding
players and making the best out of them. Right, I
think they're the best team to do that in the
National League. Maybe I would say these days, right, the
Rays have gotten a lot of credit on the Dodgers
is a good point, that's true, but it's hard to
find playing time with them. With Milwaukee, they actually needed
him in July and he came up big, and he's
(09:16):
still coming up big. He played great defensively too, But
what was that a seven pitch ab and then gets
that that cutter I'm looking at it again right now
that kind of hung across the middle of the plate
and hit the three run jack.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
I just I just love what Merv kind of said
about him, because I think it's just a great thing
for people to understand, whether you're minor league player, your
fringe major leaguer even younger than that, like this game
is going to humble you at some point. I mean,
this kid was the what second or third overall pick
got off to a pretty good start in his career.
(09:48):
You know, was really never super challenged in Chicago in
terms of guys coming up to kind of take his position.
You know, we had some bad years and finally they
said we had enough with him, and he went to
the minor leagues. And he could have you know, packed
it in, he could have cast it in. He continued
to work, he continued to develop, he made some mechanical
and some mental changes, and he ultimately got his opportunity
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through an injury. And sometimes you just need that good fortune,
You need that opportunity, you need a break, and he
not only got that opportunity but ran with it. And
you know, he's been a big part of their success
since he's been up. You know, he's been able to
not only hit in the middle of the lineup and
and bring some power and some stability. He plays great
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first base too.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I played with von soon after he got drafted with
Team USA, and the very Quiet Guy came on the
show with us earlier. Quiet Guy. So it's not like
this guy's like all of a sudden going to Milwaukee
and there's a secret sauce that Milwaukee has compared to
the White Sox. But from what I've heard because I've
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only been in the Milwaukee organization, in that clubhouse and
talking to those the front office. They let you be you,
but they let you be you as a winning player.
Some places are like, hey, I just want to let
my players be who they are.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
And you get nothing out of them.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
But they let you be you as long as you
buy into the fact that, you know what, you might
only be here for a little while until Reese Hoskins
comes back, but we're going to give you every opportunity.
Here's what we think you can do. Go out and
do it your way. I mean, the dude became King
Vaughn in Milwaukee, like this is a this is a
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very quiet person who has a lot of potential, has
a lot of power. But with the White SOPs, it
was never like he was never really challenged to dig
deep into his power. It was like, hey, you got
to elite back to ball skills, Okay, go out and
do that baseball thing. And it was just a bad
environment because you see so many guys now from those
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white SOPs teams that are playing for these playoff teams,
pitchers Andrew Vaughn like relievers, starters.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Yeah, I mean sometimes some of these some of these
players like the Andrew Bonds, the Gavin Chets, like you know, analytically,
they they have a lot to offer, like they have
a certain skill set, but maybe one of their greatest
attributes is they're just winning baseball players. And when you're
not in a winning environment, like your best version of
yourself cannot come out. I feel very similar to that,
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Like my greatest qualities that's helping a team win. Like, individually,
my skills are just okay. You know, if you put
me on a bad team, I'm just an average player.
But if you put me on a good team, I'm
elevated because my skill set is elevated. When I'm in
a winning culture, I do the little things to help
you win games that you know, allow you to be
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your best version yourself. And I think that's what you're
seeing with Andrew Vaughn.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
How about the fact that you have young guys on
the Brewers team too that can be who they are
and it's hey, you know what, you have success even
when you have failures. Pat Murphyl'd call you out. No
better example than the miss this Roski comes in, maybe
not even maybe not even a shoe in for the roster.
(13:20):
To be on this NLDS roster, you need guys that
are going to be able to give you length or
shut the game down in one inning. He wasn't throwing strikes.
He was kind of he was kind of disconnected from
his role. Am I a starter?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
No?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
They tried him in the bullpen. It didn't go very
well at the end of the year. And you need
guys that throw strikes. The Miz comes in in this
game and gives the Brewers. If they didn't need another weapon,
it gives them another weapon. Maybe this was Miss's game,
but it's something that KP You've seen it. If there's
a if there's a reliever or even a bolt guy
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that comes in the game late and is not throwing strikes,
big league hitters just feast on it. They just say,
you know what, I'm not swinging. And I think for
me the bat that swung it for the Miz and
he had a walk after this, but it was the
Dansby Swanson at bat Dansby Swanson, I think there was
one out and Dansby came up and it was kind
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of like he spraying some balls all over the place
and then Dansby came up and he went strike one,
strike two, and Dansby was like, come on, bro, like
you're supposed to be a four balls before three guy,
and there's I saw it.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Shift. I saw it shift.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Yeah, there's no better way sometimes to just get back
into a game, even if it's lopsided, you know, much
like the game that I was doing in Toronto the
other day, Like it was eleven nothing or thirteen nothing,
but they kind of went to that, you know, other
part of their bullpen to just kind of get out
and eat up innings. And the Yankees ended up scoring
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seven runs in that game, and some of it came
out off a walk. But it was also sometimes as
a player, when nothing is going right collectively or individually,
you just need one little thing to build your confidence.
And sometimes even when a guy like the Miz comes
in and doesn't throw strikes and you can just reach
first base, there's kind of this sigh of relief. Everything
is so magnified in a playoff game. So if he
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comes in and doesn't do what he's supposed to do
and he's just sprang the ball over the place, and
even if they go out and win this game, like
there is confidence that could be built from all these hitters,
you know, to take into Game three.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Dude showed us some one oh four and change. I mean,
come on, three shutout innings, a hit, four punchies, yes,
two walks, twelve pitches that were clocked at one oh
two plus. I mean that is fun. And if you're
a more casual baseball fan and you tune in for that,
you're like, Okay, I see, UMLB, these guys are ridiculous.
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He's a big dude. He took the league by storm
and then went through a lot of adversity, like krat said,
and look at it now. He looks like he could
be a big weapon for the Brew crew if he
can continue to find the strike zone enough the effectively
wild fastball. So let's finish with this Kratz. You first,
do the Cubs have a chance? Saya Suzuki showed some
life for the team first inning? Big What was that
(16:15):
four dred and forty foot home run off a change
up middle up, and you're like, okay, maybe the Cubs
are going to show up with some power here. That's
where they should have an advantage. They should be able
to keep up with this team. Defensively. I think that
there is definitely a clear cut difference in pitching that
we've been seeing the first couple games. But the Cubs
come back if what.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Kyle Tucker carries this team and say it stays hot,
say it was, say it is like you you have
to get exactly what say it did tonight. I think
he had five homers in his last four games going
into the postseason. Then he went six homers in the
last five games after he hit that first that homer
in the Wild Card. Like, he's kind of been hot,
he's been hitting dangers, but you need Kyle Tucker. Sorry,
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it's a lot to put on a it's been out,
but you need Kyle Tucker.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Kp any chance the Cubs come back.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Not from what I had seen, but they do have
Kyle Tucker. It's one of the best players in the world.
He's good enough to kind of win games on his own.
And obviously kind of going back home, if Wriglely can
kind of create this environment that the Cubs need to
go out and score. They need to not let the
Brewers score. They need to score first, and then they
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also need to put up another zero and then just
kind of allow this energy, which you knows Wrigley is
going to be rocking to kind of just potentially carry
them to a victory. And then I always say, when
you're up to nothing in a series, when you're the
team that's up, you got to put the team away.
Because all the pressure is obviously on the Cubs to
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go out and win. If they don't win, their season's over.
The Cubs win, I think that pressure kind of gets
pushed back on Milwaukee a little bit because the last
thing you want to do is go to a Game
five because anything, and so you know, if you're the Brewers,
you've got to kind of have this step on their
neck mentality. And obviously the Cubs are going to be
playing with, you know, desperation, but I think they need
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to score first. They need to put up a zero
after that, and then they need to let that home
field advantage kind of take over.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, we'll see if the power shows up for the
Cubs that regularly. The problem is right now, I mean,
the Brewers are showing us power that does not represent
a team that ranked twenty second in the league in
that category. And I would imagine Quinn Priesters lined up
for Game three for the Brewers, and you.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Can over what Locke he gets done.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
He doesn't ever lose, does he no?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Nineteen straight going into the end of the season. Now
he doesn't win all of them himself.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
The boys lose them, he doesn't lose them.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
He doesn't lose W's.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
They said, bullpen game today and then we want Priester
for Game three and it might work out beautifully for them.
If not, then okay, we could have ourselves a series.
I mean, they thought that Brent Woodriff would be their
Game two starter, and he's not around at least for
this round. We'll keep an eye on him, but we
will get to the Phillies and the Dodgers series. We're
going to find out who the Brewers are going to face.
We might have ourselves the twenty eighteen LCS rematch. We'll
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foul at checkout and get twenty percent off. Let's recap
what we've seen so far in the first two games
of the Dodgers and the Phillies in Philadelphia. That home
field advantage best home record in baseball this year, and
if you listened to us on Foul Territory on Monday
afternoon before the game, you would have thought, well, that
actually doesn't mean shit, And it didn't if the Phillies
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lost both games. Kratz, you live in the area. They're
booing the Duran entrance music, not at him. They're just
pissed off that they are seeing this from their team
and that they've lost five of their last six games
at the bank. Bedlam at the Bank is not a
thing right now. The offense is not showing up for them.
We can come up with all kinds of other excuses,
but they're not putting up big numbers at home offensively
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against a very good pitching team in these first two
games for Philadelphia. And let's also give credit to the
Dodgers for playing a really good game.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, I was gonna say, before we before we get
too hard on the on the Phillies. The Dodgers did
throw the absolute snot out of the ball. But I
see exactly what I saw part in parts of the season.
It's a team that for some reason does not hit
starting pitching very well. Yes they can, because they are
a very power packed lineup and they have a bunch
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of veteran hitters, but for some reason together as a unit,
don't consistently hit starting pitching very well. And you're running
into the best starting pitching in the playoffs right now.
Have they been the best all season? Absolutely not, because
most of them haven't even been healthy all season. But
they I mean Blake Snell back to back outings. Last
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time he faced him during the regular season, they had
twelve punches. Tonight he was he was doing whatever he wanted.
Lozardo was also doing whatever he wanted. But we're talking
about the offense. The top of the order has to
come through. And they found a little kink, they found
a little opening, and they left the door open a crack,
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and the offense did exactly what they do. They beat
up the bullpen. They didn't beat up m and Shehan
not a bullpen guy as a starter. But as soon
as they got to trying, and as soon as they
were allowed to face trying, they had him. They had him,
and they had him on the ropes. They had Vesia
on the ropes, and they weren't able to finish it out.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Did you see did you like the bunt call?
Speaker 4 (22:34):
There?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
KP for Bryson Stott and then the wheel play that
just was executed perfectly for the Dodgers to get the
out with the lead runner.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Yeah, I mean, you got to do whatever you came
in that situation to get the guy to third base.
Teams don't teams don't like practice the wheel play all
that offense. I mean, it would be I heard Max
Munsey talking about kind of the conversation that the three
infielders were having about that they the pitching change and
kind of okate it, but it was kind of spearheaded
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for Mookie, who obviously just has an unbelievable baseball IQ,
you know, and the willingness to want to run that play.
But I would love to know the last time they
actually practiced that play. I mean, it had to have
been in spring training, you know. I doubt the three
of those guys, the combination of those guys have been
out on a field at any point in time since
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spring training running the wheel play, and they did it
to perfection. So credit to them, you know, you could.
I'm a big believer too, and no offense to a
lot of pictures though, But if I'm bunting there, I'm
trying to put the ball in the hands of the
pitcher as opposed to a fielder. But bunning is not easy.
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Bunning is one of the hardest things to do in baseball.
Like at some point you've got to just kind of
pat yourself on the back that you get a bunt down.
But just a really well done play by the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, and yet Doc Roberts, the Dodgers manager, said they
really do it. Mookie called for it. That's a shortstop
captain ish kind of guy on the team, just making
the right call at the right time when they had
a little time to go over things. And the Dodgers
pull off a win just enough. I mean, yes, there
was trouble for trying in, but then he goes to
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Bessie and then Doc, you know, pulls the ultimate wild
card in the postseason. So far, pitching wise, I don't
think anybody one month ago, not like six or three,
four months ago, whatever, I think one month ago, if
I told most people that Roki Sazaki is going to
be a nails closer for the Dodgers, you'd be like, huh, who,
I don't even remember him?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
What happened to him?
Speaker 4 (24:35):
How about this saying if he was gonna be on
the roster or not that would have already been a
little bit of a stretch.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
You know.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Was he just going to you know, stay in triple A?
Was he going to be like one of those guys
that you know, go in that stay ready camp. But
now this guy's got back to back saves in playoff games.
It's it's crazy, It really is unbelievable. It's just you know,
some organizations just to you know, do things a little
bit better. Like, you know, maybe they maybe this was
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always a contingency plan that they saw on this guy,
that we're going to give hi an opportunity to start
because you know, or maybe that was the way they
felt like they could get him in the doors, like yeah,
we'll allow you to start. And ultimately it didn't go
so well. He had to go, you know, through some
injuries kind of build himself back up. But maybe ultimately
they knew all along this guy was going to be
in the lead closer.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Kratz, question for you about the star power for the Phillies,
because of course that's the number one issue right now,
and I understand that it's really good pitching coming at them.
Two for twenty one, four walks, eleven strikeouts, for Trey Turner,
Kyle Schwarber and Bryce Harper, are they seeing any pitches
that they can do damage with or even just you
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know move, you know, move themselves into a good position
to let somebody else do damage. Right, Like I'm looking
back for the Harper at bat where he had a
big strikeout, and I think there was one pitch that
was in the strike zone and there were no fastballs,
and it was just really nicely executed on the pitching side.
But like, you know, give me the Harper perspective here
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does he need to and he's got a great eye
spit at those pitches and just passed the baton. What
are you see in here?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I mean against Blake Snell, I don't I don't feel
like he chased out of the zone too bad. I
think he chased one pitch out of his own. But
strike three was yeah, his swinging Strike three was a
slider that even when they slowed it down. If you've
never faced Blake Snell, or you've never caught Blake Snell,
it is almost impossible to see that pitch. Because Harper
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does Harper does what Harper does in the playoffs. He
does an incredible job of staying on pitches, and I'm like,
I don't think he's he's not seeing that slider because
he everybody remember what he did to Robert Suarez that
opposite field Homer that created bedlam at the bank, Like
that's how you hit that slider, and he's trying to
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do that and he still couldn't do it. Maybe maybe
this is my homerism. Maybe I need to go back
and watch.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
More of this.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
But I really feel like, besides the fastball in that
Schwarber missed, I forget, I think I forget who was pitching,
but it was a fastball in that he foul tipped,
I don't feel like guys were really like they were
giving them any chances to hit anything to do damage with.
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Like it wasn't like ooh, we had that one. They
all look late confused and like searching for what is
the next pitch.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
That was eighth inning, by the way, with she and
against Schwarber, and that was ninety eight tipped into the
glove to get him. That was when we had the
long ish delay with the PitchCom I don't know if
I believe that it wasn't working, but whatever, and Schwerberg's
just waiting, and then eventually they got him.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I thought they were going to go I thought they
were gonna go to Vessia. I thought it was going
to be some kind of conspiracy thing there, Like I thought, oh, hey.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
You know, we're gonna come out here.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
We're gonna talk about it PitchCom, because we want Vessia
to face to face Harper. You got Schwarber clearly, but
we're gonna have Vessia face Harper. And it was like
delay delay, and then you saw the bullpen and Vessia,
who's always looks like he's beamed up, he's just throwing, throwing, throwing,
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and then they left him in there, left him in there,
didn't didn't take him out. So I think the PitchCom
actually didn't work. And we're coming out with a new
foul territory, pitch Com, and it's gonna solve all PitchCom problems.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
I'll take for you right now. I think we can
make an argument that the Phillies lineup one to nine
is much better than the Blue Jays lineup in Brewer's lineup?
Would you agree? Through more talented, more dangerous. I do believe.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
I do believe it.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
I'm not there is just a hot take. I'm not
in that. I've never been in that clubhouse with Philly,
but I've had the conversations with the Blue Jays, and
you were obviously with the Milwaukee Brewers. I think those
teams have a much better collective approach where I feel
like the Phillies are so much more reliant on individual
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talent that they feel like at some point just the
talent is gonna take over, and they're good enough to
not really like have this past the baton mentality, or hey,
we're gonna eliminate this pitch, We're gonna wear them out.
Because these two teams that you know, don't hit a
ton of home runs that aren't filled one through nine
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with you know, high octane offensive players are going out
and scoring a ton of runs. So I think there's
also this way that you play in the regular season
that definitely changes when you get into the postseason. I
think those two teams have an advantage right now because
I think they've been playing postseason baseball for the entirety
of this.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, is it that KP coupled with some guys that
clearly are getting game planned and it's working right? I mean,
we can say oh, they're running into maybe the best
team in baseball, and the Dodgers should have been a
you know, a buy team, right and not been facing
the Phillies in this spot. Whatever you can try and
make excuses, you're gonna have to run through a team
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like this either way. And it's been some disappointing seasons
for a Philly team.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
That you're right.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
You look at on paper and you're like, this team
should be better, but look at the numbers the last
couple of postseasons for Trey Turner, Kyle Schwarber. I mean,
they're they're bad, and clearly pitchers have a game plan
and it's working, right, yeah, I mean work in the
regular but it's working in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
You can't put all the blame on the Phillies hitters,
and you know their approach and their hitting coach and
whatever it is. You know, sometimes you just got to
give credit where credits due, and like Crouds knows, like
you're going to go into every individual game with game
plans of how to get guys out, but that obviously
is magnified so much more in the playoffs. You're always
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pitching to guys' weaknesses. It's just a matter if your
pitchers can execute it. And it just seems like at
this point the Dodgers have been able to execute their
game plan against the middle of the order, or actually
the entirety of the order of the Phillies, and sometimes,
like I said, it's not so much about you know
what we are doing, and sometimes you just have to
keep your cap and just say, like they've just been
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better than us, and you hope in game three, whoever,
I don't know who's due to start in Game three
for the Dodgers, but you just hope that there's just
a couple more mistakes where these guys could capitalize on.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Dude yama Moto Game three coming up against Aaron Nola,
who looked better lately, but he's had a really rough
season and Ranger Suarez is going to back him up.
So things definitely do not look promising when it's Yamamoto
game three. This is the gauntlet they have to go
through right now, Kratz, And you tell me if there's
any freaking sliver of a chance for them, they have
to go through yama Moto. Then they have to take
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down Tyler Glass now, and then they will face show
Hey Otani in game five, and I get I mean,
if you get to a game five against Otani and
you've got your big boy in Sanchez back on the mound,
sure you've got a chance. But do you think they
can take them down in three in a row.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I think they can because those guys haven't been hot.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
You can never tell me, and I guess I'll be
I guess I'll be wrong if it just continues this
way for the rest of history. But there's not a playoff.
A player doesn't become worse than the playoff playoffs, you
don't turn into a pumpkin. To me, you're gonna have
to regress back to what they do. Kyle Schwarber has
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had some massive home runs in the playoffs. He can
carry a team for a three to seven game stretch.
Bryce Harper has been I mean, I think he still
has over a thousand.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Ops in the playoffs. He can get hot. Is is it?
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Are they up against it right now? Absolutely, they're up
against it, But this lineup has the ability.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
To do it.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Look, Nick Costianis was one of their best hitters. He
had a massive hit tonight. When you have veterans in
there and your back's against the wall, there's not a panic.
Maybe now that's the little spark that they need. Maybe
that maybe Shover finds something in the off day, swinging
off of the breaking ball machine, maybe they get you know,
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it's they have the guys to do it. Do they
have a sliver of hope. I think it's more than
a sliver of hope. Do they have to change what
they've been doing? Yeah, somebody has to step up and
get a big hit.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yeah, it's tough to see it for me, KP. With
the way that the Dodgers have this pitching rolling right now,
the offense is in a pretty good spot against a
really good Philadelphia pitching staff. By the way, I mean,
Christopher Sanchez is going to finish second in NLSI Young
Jesus Lozzardo for most of the game put on a
show tonight. But even for the I mean they're not
perfect defensively to asker Hernandez's rollercoaster ride, but I want
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to make sure the finish line here we shout out
Freddie Freeman made a sick pick. Otherwise that games still rolling.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Yeah, I mean to cross his points. I definitely like
the Phillies' chances a lot more than I like the
Cubs chances because he said, these guys don't these guys
don't turn into pumpkins in the playoffs, like if this
was their first time going through the playoffs, because the
playoffs can be overwhelming, Like the moment gets bigger, the
anxiety goes through the roof. You know you're getting you're
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not getting a chance to nesta league game plan against
a starter who's gonna go. You know you're gonna see
him a third time, maybe not even a second time.
But these guys have a track record of being very
successful hitters in the postseason. Like you mentioned, the Dodgers
pitching staff is just rolling right now. I think this
is nothing that we didn't expect to happen for the Dodgers.
I think we knew inevitably if everyone's healthy once they
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got into the postseason. This is kind of what you
expected to see from the Dodgers. But I wouldn't count
them out because of what krat said, Like they just
have too much talent and they have too many guys
that individually can just put a team on their back.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, I whole hardly agree with that. I think the
Phillies do have a better chance. I just I don't
see it for either side. Yeah, I could see the
Phillies taking a game. Maybe they crack Yamamoto, But what
do you got?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
And Scott, you said the Dodgers' offense is rolling. They've
scored him two innings for a Dodgers offense, that is awesome.
The Phillies starting rotation and pretty much eight of the
nine innings they have I don't feel like the Dodgers
offense is like rolling, rolling, But the Dodgers have done
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the same thing. They kind of struggled sometimes against starters,
same thing as the Phillies, and then the bullpen comes
in and there's a guy they're like, no, no, yes,
we got something than on him, Yes we see him. Well,
yes this is our guy. And both both games they
scored all their runs in the seventh inning, nine runs
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in the seventh.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
You said the quiet thing out loud. I was, That's
what I was thinking. I was hearing that, Like, both
these teams typically have trouble hitting, starting pitching, but there's
guys in the bullpen they get to. Does that make
you believe that they may have things on the bullpen
guys that they can't get on starters.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Maybe maybe or or they're able to eliminate pitches. They're
able to eliminate pitches. I mean that to me, that's
that's better than any tell Like if you're like this
guy is a two pitch guy. He never throws his
breaking ball for a strike or anything in. I think
the Dodgers do a great job of eliminating zones. Starting
pitchers are good at all four quadrants. When a Matt
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Strom comes in, he's probably only going to run that
slider in off. Say guys, hey, when that slider, when
anything starts in, we're taking it down. And this is
what KP's talking about. Good team at bats. You you
strike out looking at a fastball in against Strom, if
that's their game plan, and you know what, we tip
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our cap. We move on and then when he makes
a mistake, anything out over, we're smashing it. We're on
time for it, whatever it is.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Yeah, I think that's a fair point. Typically starters have
a much you know, bigger arsenal pitches be able to
use the entirety of the plate. And when you do
get to those bullpen guys, even if they have a
third pitch, like you are gonna eliminate one, you're gonna
turn them into two pitch guy, but ultimately you're going
to turn him to a one side of the plate guy.
So I think there's some truth to that, more so
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than getting into this kind of going down this rabbit
hole of always thinking that you know, a pitcher gives
up runs or you know, gives up a home run,
he's tipping. I think it could come down to this,
you know, game planning too.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
And the buggaboo for the Dodgers still is there. I mean,
they're traditional relievers right now, are not in a good spot.
This is nothing like what they imagined. They thought, you know,
Kirby Yates and Tanner Scott and trying in right and
tryning was the problem child in this particular game. I mean,
the highlights for them are Glass Night out of the bullpen.
Shean in this game, out of the bullpen, former start
rookie Sazaki. I mean, they're throwing starters out of the
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bullpen to try and win games, and that has worked
for some teams in the past, so I'll give them credit.
And then last shout out for me, of course, Doc Roberts,
who's super super battle tested, gets to push the Will
Smith button in the seventh inning where he would never
be up in that spot, and you have, like, what
a top three hitting catcher in baseball who gets to
step in with the first pitch, line drive, two run
single and that made it three to nothing. So prohaps
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to this team. They've got a lot of talent. They're
in a really good spot. If you've got thoughts on
this series, then drop them in the comments let us know.
We'll talk about it more on foul Territory throughout the week.
Thank you so much for watching, and we have ft
still every day one o'clock Eastern time. We have plenty
of postgame shows that we'll do. We'll get KP on
something Blue Jays related or you can catch them on
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Blue Jays coverage too. We did a little interview with
him earlier on fal Terra Turn Monday, so check that out.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
KP.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Thanks for joining us for this a little late night.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Yeah, I must prefer the earlier slot. This is a
little tough on me, but you know what, it was
worse standing up to see you know, Crafts of Sleepy
Eyes too.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
You did it, You did it, KP. It's a good
rite of passage here. Just for the playoffs and Krafts,
your legend will see it in a little bit. Thanks everyone,
we'll see it soon.
It's Scotty Brown, Eric Kratz, and Kevin Pullar. We're going
to first talk about the Cubs and Brewers, and then
we will get to the Phillies and the Dodgers and Gratz.
You used to play for this Milwaukee team and actually
had a nice little run during a time period where
they thought maybe they could make the World Series. Very
strong start for this team. They take down the Cubs again.
They've scored sixteen runs in their first two games, and
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now they're one went away from another National League Championship
Series appearance. Your thoughts on what you're seeing so far.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
The problem that the Brewers had going into the playoffs
was it didn't hit enough homers.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Screw that.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
They took care of that tonight. They're doing it every
which way. And then they're like, ah, you know what,
we had five days off. We're gonna go ahead and
do an open wait in the bullpen gate Wait a minute,
no miss is gonna pitch all the things that you
would think the teams that get the brakes wouldn't do,
and they did it, and let's go brew crew.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
And we were texting KP you know, Kratz and AJ
and me about the decision by Milwaukee to go with
Ashby as the opener he had pitched in Game one,
and to let him try and feast against the top
of the order for the Cubs. Cubs countered. Cubs got
three runs off the Brewers in the first, just like
in Game one. They were able to strike first, but
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it didn't go far. They didn't score the rest of
the damn game.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
They knew what they were doing. But I mean, it's
obviously to kind of just at least appear that I
left he's going to go multiple winnings and try to
set their lineup in the bench out. I mean, it's
kind of the new way of kind of doing it.
Especially when teams are kind of built off platoons, you've
got to kind of try to counter that in any
way possible.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Okay, So first off, I want to talk about Jackson Cheerio.
He is battling a hamstring issue. He does not look
on Kevin. It helps when you can hit dingers at
twenty one years old and then you don't have to
worry as much about doing crazy things on the base paths.
What are you seeing from him in the first couple games.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah, just hit dingers and stay healthy obviously, then being
able to close out the series as soon as possible
for his health is going to be the most beneficial them.
Obviously going out and scoring a ton of runs and
at some point they're going to have to make a
business decision, and you know, hopefully they have a big
enough lead and they can sub them out on defense
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or if he's able to get on base and bringing
a pinch runner. But the great thing about being twenty
one is some of those things he a little bit quicker,
So hopefully it's very mild, and youth is on his side.
So off to a good start, you know, off day,
you know, hopefully they can, for his sake and for
their team's sake, they can close it out as soon
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as possible and just give them as much rest as
humanly possible.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
So that was the three run homer, and that took
this to a seven to three game from the four
to three lead that the Brewers had. What'd you think
of that sequence there, Kratz? There was one oh one
point four, which, according to Sarah Langx is the hardest
pitch to hit for a home run in the postseason
since they started pitch tracking in what was it two
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thousand and eight, I think she said, or maybe stack
cast I think she meant pitch tracking. But but anyway,
I mean plenty of challenged him. I think with three
pitches that were over the middle quadrant and third one,
it's like, yeah, this is one of the best young
hitters in the sport. Stop challenging like that.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I mean, you have to challenge him. To me, you
have to challenge him. You can't come in plentcy. You
can't come in and be like, yeah, I wonder how
I'm gonna get him out now. If they're like, hey,
you know what, we gotta throw that banger down in
his zone or something. But for him to be able
to get on top of that ball where it was,
I think it was a little out of the zone.
If not, it was top of the zone and we'll
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put it out the center field at twenty one, while
KP said, this dude is going to heal up quickly,
like he's doing stuff at twenty one that you're not
supposed to be able to do. I just pulled up
his postseason numbers. He's hitting five seventy one in his
two postseasons. He's got fifteen playing appearances, eight hits, two dangers,
a double and he's struck out one time. He's twenty one.
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I mean, what are we looking at? Are we looking
at Andrew Jones?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Here?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Is this what we're looking at? Just reborn? Hopefully his
hamstring is fine. They put they brought Lockridge in. I
think Murph is very aware that he's dealing with something.
But he was able to go to the line and
track that ball that can kind of be tough sometimes
because it comes back and make that catch in foul territory.
Lockridge can come in, pinch, run and come in for defense.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
For him, he is getting it right now. KP.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Did you ever face him Anaga?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I did I face him last year? I faced him
last year. Yeah, he's obviously they they're in the same division,
you know. Me facing them for the first time, it
was the first at bat was obviously the most challenging.
It's not elite stuff. It's it's very good command. There
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is some carry to the fastball, there's some deception to
the split finger, but that's a challenge when you get
lined up with a team in your division. Like there's
no real secrets anymore. Like he doesn't necessarily have the
ability to outstuff you. You know, he's so relying on command,
there's no secrets anymore. And if he's not going to
command his pitches, you know the opposing team is going
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to take advantage of you know, what he has to offer.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, that was my thing Kratz is he's given him
so many home runs for a few months now. Second
half of the season, he gave up by far the
most home runs in baseball. I believe twenty two was
the number they were showing. The next highest was like
maybe sixteen or seventeen. So did you notice anything Kratz
that's leading to these issues consistently for him lately? I
mean every start he's given up at least a homer.
And then when you're taking on what's one of the
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best offenses in baseball, you turned them into not just
a contact hitting team, but now a power hitting team.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I saw a thing or perceive velocity at the plate,
meaning what it looks like to the hitter. Ever since
he came back from the IL, I forget when it
was early in the season, the life on his fastball
just doesn't seem like it's there.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Is it the league getting used to him?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Is the league what kp was saying like it's kind
of awkward because it comes from a low slot. I
remember watching him last year, and I remember when we
first came into the league, guys were talking about possibly
like a long relief type of guy, and other guys
were saying, this guy could be a number two in
your rotation. He made the All Star team, came on
the show, had a great first year, and I don't
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think he ever came back from his injury fully one hundred.
In the sense that when you don't have and this
is I guess why everybody chases velocity. You don't have
the elite velocity, and you don't have some kind of
like freakish talent where you're stepping closer, you're throwing from higher,
it's tougher to get away with mistakes, especially when your
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ball is flat. And then boys start tee and off
they start, they start getting on top of balls and
they're not found them straight back, and then you're able
to get to something else to strike them out. And
that's what it seemed like in the second half we
were seeing from him FT fam.
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a guy who hit a three run home run off
in Mianaga, Andrew Vaughn, Because if I recall KP, you
did spend some time with Andrew Vaughn and he got
the gift of his life by getting picked up by
the Milwaukee Brewers after coiling in the minor leagues at
one point this season with the White Sox, He's picked
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up by a team that is really good at finding
players and making the best out of them. Right, I
think they're the best team to do that in the
National League. Maybe I would say these days, right, the
Rays have gotten a lot of credit on the Dodgers
is a good point, that's true, but it's hard to
find playing time with them. With Milwaukee, they actually needed
him in July and he came up big, and he's
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still coming up big. He played great defensively too, But
what was that a seven pitch ab and then gets
that that cutter I'm looking at it again right now
that kind of hung across the middle of the plate
and hit the three run jack.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
I just I just love what Merv kind of said
about him, because I think it's just a great thing
for people to understand, whether you're minor league player, your
fringe major leaguer even younger than that, like this game
is going to humble you at some point. I mean,
this kid was the what second or third overall pick
got off to a pretty good start in his career.
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You know, was really never super challenged in Chicago in
terms of guys coming up to kind of take his position.
You know, we had some bad years and finally they
said we had enough with him, and he went to
the minor leagues. And he could have you know, packed
it in, he could have cast it in. He continued
to work, he continued to develop, he made some mechanical
and some mental changes, and he ultimately got his opportunity
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through an injury. And sometimes you just need that good fortune,
You need that opportunity, you need a break, and he
not only got that opportunity but ran with it. And
you know, he's been a big part of their success
since he's been up. You know, he's been able to
not only hit in the middle of the lineup and
and bring some power and some stability. He plays great
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first base too.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I played with von soon after he got drafted with
Team USA, and the very Quiet Guy came on the
show with us earlier. Quiet Guy. So it's not like
this guy's like all of a sudden going to Milwaukee
and there's a secret sauce that Milwaukee has compared to
the White Sox. But from what I've heard because I've
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only been in the Milwaukee organization, in that clubhouse and
talking to those the front office. They let you be you,
but they let you be you as a winning player.
Some places are like, hey, I just want to let
my players be who they are.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
And you get nothing out of them.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
But they let you be you as long as you
buy into the fact that, you know what, you might
only be here for a little while until Reese Hoskins
comes back, but we're going to give you every opportunity.
Here's what we think you can do. Go out and
do it your way. I mean, the dude became King
Vaughn in Milwaukee, like this is a this is a
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very quiet person who has a lot of potential, has
a lot of power. But with the White SOPs, it
was never like he was never really challenged to dig
deep into his power. It was like, hey, you got
to elite back to ball skills, Okay, go out and
do that baseball thing. And it was just a bad
environment because you see so many guys now from those
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white SOPs teams that are playing for these playoff teams,
pitchers Andrew Vaughn like relievers, starters.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Yeah, I mean sometimes some of these some of these
players like the Andrew Bonds, the Gavin Chets, like you know, analytically,
they they have a lot to offer, like they have
a certain skill set, but maybe one of their greatest
attributes is they're just winning baseball players. And when you're
not in a winning environment, like your best version of
yourself cannot come out. I feel very similar to that,
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Like my greatest qualities that's helping a team win. Like, individually,
my skills are just okay. You know, if you put
me on a bad team, I'm just an average player.
But if you put me on a good team, I'm
elevated because my skill set is elevated. When I'm in
a winning culture, I do the little things to help
you win games that you know, allow you to be
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your best version yourself. And I think that's what you're
seeing with Andrew Vaughn.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
How about the fact that you have young guys on
the Brewers team too that can be who they are
and it's hey, you know what, you have success even
when you have failures. Pat Murphyl'd call you out. No
better example than the miss this Roski comes in, maybe
not even maybe not even a shoe in for the roster.
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To be on this NLDS roster, you need guys that
are going to be able to give you length or
shut the game down in one inning. He wasn't throwing strikes.
He was kind of he was kind of disconnected from
his role. Am I a starter?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
No?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
They tried him in the bullpen. It didn't go very
well at the end of the year. And you need
guys that throw strikes. The Miz comes in in this
game and gives the Brewers. If they didn't need another weapon,
it gives them another weapon. Maybe this was Miss's game,
but it's something that KP You've seen it. If there's
a if there's a reliever or even a bolt guy
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that comes in the game late and is not throwing strikes,
big league hitters just feast on it. They just say,
you know what, I'm not swinging. And I think for
me the bat that swung it for the Miz and
he had a walk after this, but it was the
Dansby Swanson at bat Dansby Swanson, I think there was
one out and Dansby came up and it was kind
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of like he spraying some balls all over the place
and then Dansby came up and he went strike one,
strike two, and Dansby was like, come on, bro, like
you're supposed to be a four balls before three guy,
and there's I saw it.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Shift. I saw it shift.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Yeah, there's no better way sometimes to just get back
into a game, even if it's lopsided, you know, much
like the game that I was doing in Toronto the
other day, Like it was eleven nothing or thirteen nothing,
but they kind of went to that, you know, other
part of their bullpen to just kind of get out
and eat up innings. And the Yankees ended up scoring
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seven runs in that game, and some of it came
out off a walk. But it was also sometimes as
a player, when nothing is going right collectively or individually,
you just need one little thing to build your confidence.
And sometimes even when a guy like the Miz comes
in and doesn't throw strikes and you can just reach
first base, there's kind of this sigh of relief. Everything
is so magnified in a playoff game. So if he
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comes in and doesn't do what he's supposed to do
and he's just sprang the ball over the place, and
even if they go out and win this game, like
there is confidence that could be built from all these hitters,
you know, to take into Game three.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Dude showed us some one oh four and change. I mean,
come on, three shutout innings, a hit, four punchies, yes,
two walks, twelve pitches that were clocked at one oh
two plus. I mean that is fun. And if you're
a more casual baseball fan and you tune in for that,
you're like, Okay, I see, UMLB, these guys are ridiculous.
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He's a big dude. He took the league by storm
and then went through a lot of adversity, like krat said,
and look at it now. He looks like he could
be a big weapon for the Brew crew if he
can continue to find the strike zone enough the effectively
wild fastball. So let's finish with this Kratz. You first,
do the Cubs have a chance? Saya Suzuki showed some
life for the team first inning? Big What was that
(16:15):
four dred and forty foot home run off a change
up middle up, and you're like, okay, maybe the Cubs
are going to show up with some power here. That's
where they should have an advantage. They should be able
to keep up with this team. Defensively. I think that
there is definitely a clear cut difference in pitching that
we've been seeing the first couple games. But the Cubs
come back if what.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Kyle Tucker carries this team and say it stays hot,
say it was, say it is like you you have
to get exactly what say it did tonight. I think
he had five homers in his last four games going
into the postseason. Then he went six homers in the
last five games after he hit that first that homer
in the Wild Card. Like, he's kind of been hot,
he's been hitting dangers, but you need Kyle Tucker. Sorry,
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it's a lot to put on a it's been out,
but you need Kyle Tucker.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Kp any chance the Cubs come back.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Not from what I had seen, but they do have
Kyle Tucker. It's one of the best players in the world.
He's good enough to kind of win games on his own.
And obviously kind of going back home, if Wriglely can
kind of create this environment that the Cubs need to
go out and score. They need to not let the
Brewers score. They need to score first, and then they
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also need to put up another zero and then just
kind of allow this energy, which you knows Wrigley is
going to be rocking to kind of just potentially carry
them to a victory. And then I always say, when
you're up to nothing in a series, when you're the
team that's up, you got to put the team away.
Because all the pressure is obviously on the Cubs to
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go out and win. If they don't win, their season's over.
The Cubs win, I think that pressure kind of gets
pushed back on Milwaukee a little bit because the last
thing you want to do is go to a Game
five because anything, and so you know, if you're the Brewers,
you've got to kind of have this step on their
neck mentality. And obviously the Cubs are going to be
playing with, you know, desperation, but I think they need
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to score first. They need to put up a zero
after that, and then they need to let that home
field advantage kind of take over.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, we'll see if the power shows up for the
Cubs that regularly. The problem is right now, I mean,
the Brewers are showing us power that does not represent
a team that ranked twenty second in the league in
that category. And I would imagine Quinn Priesters lined up
for Game three for the Brewers, and you.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Can over what Locke he gets done.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
He doesn't ever lose, does he no?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Nineteen straight going into the end of the season. Now
he doesn't win all of them himself.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
The boys lose them, he doesn't lose them.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
He doesn't lose W's.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
They said, bullpen game today and then we want Priester
for Game three and it might work out beautifully for them.
If not, then okay, we could have ourselves a series.
I mean, they thought that Brent Woodriff would be their
Game two starter, and he's not around at least for
this round. We'll keep an eye on him, but we
will get to the Phillies and the Dodgers series. We're
going to find out who the Brewers are going to face.
We might have ourselves the twenty eighteen LCS rematch. We'll
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what we've seen so far in the first two games
of the Dodgers and the Phillies in Philadelphia. That home
field advantage best home record in baseball this year, and
if you listened to us on Foul Territory on Monday
afternoon before the game, you would have thought, well, that
actually doesn't mean shit, And it didn't if the Phillies
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lost both games. Kratz, you live in the area. They're
booing the Duran entrance music, not at him. They're just
pissed off that they are seeing this from their team
and that they've lost five of their last six games
at the bank. Bedlam at the Bank is not a
thing right now. The offense is not showing up for them.
We can come up with all kinds of other excuses,
but they're not putting up big numbers at home offensively
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against a very good pitching team in these first two
games for Philadelphia. And let's also give credit to the
Dodgers for playing a really good game.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, I was gonna say, before we before we get
too hard on the on the Phillies. The Dodgers did
throw the absolute snot out of the ball. But I
see exactly what I saw part in parts of the season.
It's a team that for some reason does not hit
starting pitching very well. Yes they can, because they are
a very power packed lineup and they have a bunch
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of veteran hitters, but for some reason together as a unit,
don't consistently hit starting pitching very well. And you're running
into the best starting pitching in the playoffs right now.
Have they been the best all season? Absolutely not, because
most of them haven't even been healthy all season. But
they I mean Blake Snell back to back outings. Last
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time he faced him during the regular season, they had
twelve punches. Tonight he was he was doing whatever he wanted.
Lozardo was also doing whatever he wanted. But we're talking
about the offense. The top of the order has to
come through. And they found a little kink, they found
a little opening, and they left the door open a crack,
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and the offense did exactly what they do. They beat
up the bullpen. They didn't beat up m and Shehan
not a bullpen guy as a starter. But as soon
as they got to trying, and as soon as they
were allowed to face trying, they had him. They had him,
and they had him on the ropes. They had Vesia
on the ropes, and they weren't able to finish it out.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Did you see did you like the bunt call?
Speaker 4 (22:34):
There?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
KP for Bryson Stott and then the wheel play that
just was executed perfectly for the Dodgers to get the
out with the lead runner.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Yeah, I mean, you got to do whatever you came
in that situation to get the guy to third base.
Teams don't teams don't like practice the wheel play all
that offense. I mean, it would be I heard Max
Munsey talking about kind of the conversation that the three
infielders were having about that they the pitching change and
kind of okate it, but it was kind of spearheaded
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for Mookie, who obviously just has an unbelievable baseball IQ,
you know, and the willingness to want to run that play.
But I would love to know the last time they
actually practiced that play. I mean, it had to have
been in spring training, you know. I doubt the three
of those guys, the combination of those guys have been
out on a field at any point in time since
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spring training running the wheel play, and they did it
to perfection. So credit to them, you know, you could.
I'm a big believer too, and no offense to a
lot of pictures though, But if I'm bunting there, I'm
trying to put the ball in the hands of the
pitcher as opposed to a fielder. But bunning is not easy.
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Bunning is one of the hardest things to do in baseball.
Like at some point you've got to just kind of
pat yourself on the back that you get a bunt down.
But just a really well done play by the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, and yet Doc Roberts, the Dodgers manager, said they
really do it. Mookie called for it. That's a shortstop
captain ish kind of guy on the team, just making
the right call at the right time when they had
a little time to go over things. And the Dodgers
pull off a win just enough. I mean, yes, there
was trouble for trying in, but then he goes to
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Bessie and then Doc, you know, pulls the ultimate wild
card in the postseason. So far, pitching wise, I don't
think anybody one month ago, not like six or three,
four months ago, whatever, I think one month ago, if
I told most people that Roki Sazaki is going to
be a nails closer for the Dodgers, you'd be like, huh, who,
I don't even remember him?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
What happened to him?
Speaker 4 (24:35):
How about this saying if he was gonna be on
the roster or not that would have already been a
little bit of a stretch.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
You know.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Was he just going to you know, stay in triple A?
Was he going to be like one of those guys
that you know, go in that stay ready camp. But
now this guy's got back to back saves in playoff games.
It's it's crazy, It really is unbelievable. It's just you know,
some organizations just to you know, do things a little
bit better. Like, you know, maybe they maybe this was
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always a contingency plan that they saw on this guy,
that we're going to give hi an opportunity to start
because you know, or maybe that was the way they
felt like they could get him in the doors, like yeah,
we'll allow you to start. And ultimately it didn't go
so well. He had to go, you know, through some
injuries kind of build himself back up. But maybe ultimately
they knew all along this guy was going to be
in the lead closer.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Kratz, question for you about the star power for the Phillies,
because of course that's the number one issue right now,
and I understand that it's really good pitching coming at them.
Two for twenty one, four walks, eleven strikeouts, for Trey Turner,
Kyle Schwarber and Bryce Harper, are they seeing any pitches
that they can do damage with or even just you
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know move, you know, move themselves into a good position
to let somebody else do damage. Right, Like I'm looking
back for the Harper at bat where he had a
big strikeout, and I think there was one pitch that
was in the strike zone and there were no fastballs,
and it was just really nicely executed on the pitching side.
But like, you know, give me the Harper perspective here
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does he need to and he's got a great eye
spit at those pitches and just passed the baton. What
are you see in here?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I mean against Blake Snell, I don't I don't feel
like he chased out of the zone too bad. I
think he chased one pitch out of his own. But
strike three was yeah, his swinging Strike three was a
slider that even when they slowed it down. If you've
never faced Blake Snell, or you've never caught Blake Snell,
it is almost impossible to see that pitch. Because Harper
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does Harper does what Harper does in the playoffs. He
does an incredible job of staying on pitches, and I'm like,
I don't think he's he's not seeing that slider because
he everybody remember what he did to Robert Suarez that
opposite field Homer that created bedlam at the bank, Like
that's how you hit that slider, and he's trying to
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do that and he still couldn't do it. Maybe maybe
this is my homerism. Maybe I need to go back
and watch.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
More of this.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
But I really feel like, besides the fastball in that
Schwarber missed, I forget, I think I forget who was pitching,
but it was a fastball in that he foul tipped,
I don't feel like guys were really like they were
giving them any chances to hit anything to do damage with.
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Like it wasn't like ooh, we had that one. They
all look late confused and like searching for what is
the next pitch.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
That was eighth inning, by the way, with she and
against Schwarber, and that was ninety eight tipped into the
glove to get him. That was when we had the
long ish delay with the PitchCom I don't know if
I believe that it wasn't working, but whatever, and Schwerberg's
just waiting, and then eventually they got him.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I thought they were going to go I thought they
were gonna go to Vessia. I thought it was going
to be some kind of conspiracy thing there, Like I thought, oh, hey.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
You know, we're gonna come out here.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
We're gonna talk about it PitchCom, because we want Vessia
to face to face Harper. You got Schwarber clearly, but
we're gonna have Vessia face Harper. And it was like
delay delay, and then you saw the bullpen and Vessia,
who's always looks like he's beamed up, he's just throwing, throwing, throwing,
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and then they left him in there, left him in there,
didn't didn't take him out. So I think the PitchCom
actually didn't work. And we're coming out with a new
foul territory, pitch Com, and it's gonna solve all PitchCom problems.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
I'll take for you right now. I think we can
make an argument that the Phillies lineup one to nine
is much better than the Blue Jays lineup in Brewer's lineup?
Would you agree? Through more talented, more dangerous. I do believe.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
I do believe it.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
I'm not there is just a hot take. I'm not
in that. I've never been in that clubhouse with Philly,
but I've had the conversations with the Blue Jays, and
you were obviously with the Milwaukee Brewers. I think those
teams have a much better collective approach where I feel
like the Phillies are so much more reliant on individual
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talent that they feel like at some point just the
talent is gonna take over, and they're good enough to
not really like have this past the baton mentality, or hey,
we're gonna eliminate this pitch, We're gonna wear them out.
Because these two teams that you know, don't hit a
ton of home runs that aren't filled one through nine
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with you know, high octane offensive players are going out
and scoring a ton of runs. So I think there's
also this way that you play in the regular season
that definitely changes when you get into the postseason. I
think those two teams have an advantage right now because
I think they've been playing postseason baseball for the entirety
of this.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, is it that KP coupled with some guys that
clearly are getting game planned and it's working right? I mean,
we can say oh, they're running into maybe the best
team in baseball, and the Dodgers should have been a
you know, a buy team, right and not been facing
the Phillies in this spot. Whatever you can try and
make excuses, you're gonna have to run through a team
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like this either way. And it's been some disappointing seasons
for a Philly team.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
That you're right.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
You look at on paper and you're like, this team
should be better, but look at the numbers the last
couple of postseasons for Trey Turner, Kyle Schwarber. I mean,
they're they're bad, and clearly pitchers have a game plan
and it's working, right, yeah, I mean work in the
regular but it's working in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
You can't put all the blame on the Phillies hitters,
and you know their approach and their hitting coach and
whatever it is. You know, sometimes you just got to
give credit where credits due, and like Crouds knows, like
you're going to go into every individual game with game
plans of how to get guys out, but that obviously
is magnified so much more in the playoffs. You're always
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pitching to guys' weaknesses. It's just a matter if your
pitchers can execute it. And it just seems like at
this point the Dodgers have been able to execute their
game plan against the middle of the order, or actually
the entirety of the order of the Phillies, and sometimes,
like I said, it's not so much about you know
what we are doing, and sometimes you just have to
keep your cap and just say, like they've just been
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better than us, and you hope in game three, whoever,
I don't know who's due to start in Game three
for the Dodgers, but you just hope that there's just
a couple more mistakes where these guys could capitalize on.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Dude yama Moto Game three coming up against Aaron Nola,
who looked better lately, but he's had a really rough
season and Ranger Suarez is going to back him up.
So things definitely do not look promising when it's Yamamoto
game three. This is the gauntlet they have to go
through right now, Kratz, And you tell me if there's
any freaking sliver of a chance for them, they have
to go through yama Moto. Then they have to take
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down Tyler Glass now, and then they will face show
Hey Otani in game five, and I get I mean,
if you get to a game five against Otani and
you've got your big boy in Sanchez back on the mound,
sure you've got a chance. But do you think they
can take them down in three in a row.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I think they can because those guys haven't been hot.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
You can never tell me, and I guess I'll be
I guess I'll be wrong if it just continues this
way for the rest of history. But there's not a playoff.
A player doesn't become worse than the playoff playoffs, you
don't turn into a pumpkin. To me, you're gonna have
to regress back to what they do. Kyle Schwarber has
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had some massive home runs in the playoffs. He can
carry a team for a three to seven game stretch.
Bryce Harper has been I mean, I think he still
has over a thousand.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Ops in the playoffs. He can get hot. Is is it?
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Are they up against it right now? Absolutely, they're up
against it, But this lineup has the ability.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
To do it.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Look, Nick Costianis was one of their best hitters. He
had a massive hit tonight. When you have veterans in
there and your back's against the wall, there's not a panic.
Maybe now that's the little spark that they need. Maybe
that maybe Shover finds something in the off day, swinging
off of the breaking ball machine, maybe they get you know,
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it's they have the guys to do it. Do they
have a sliver of hope. I think it's more than
a sliver of hope. Do they have to change what
they've been doing? Yeah, somebody has to step up and
get a big hit.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yeah, it's tough to see it for me, KP. With
the way that the Dodgers have this pitching rolling right now,
the offense is in a pretty good spot against a
really good Philadelphia pitching staff. By the way, I mean,
Christopher Sanchez is going to finish second in NLSI Young
Jesus Lozzardo for most of the game put on a
show tonight. But even for the I mean they're not
perfect defensively to asker Hernandez's rollercoaster ride, but I want
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to make sure the finish line here we shout out
Freddie Freeman made a sick pick. Otherwise that games still rolling.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Yeah, I mean to cross his points. I definitely like
the Phillies' chances a lot more than I like the
Cubs chances because he said, these guys don't these guys
don't turn into pumpkins in the playoffs, like if this
was their first time going through the playoffs, because the
playoffs can be overwhelming, Like the moment gets bigger, the
anxiety goes through the roof. You know you're getting you're
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not getting a chance to nesta league game plan against
a starter who's gonna go. You know you're gonna see
him a third time, maybe not even a second time.
But these guys have a track record of being very
successful hitters in the postseason. Like you mentioned, the Dodgers
pitching staff is just rolling right now. I think this
is nothing that we didn't expect to happen for the Dodgers.
I think we knew inevitably if everyone's healthy once they
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got into the postseason. This is kind of what you
expected to see from the Dodgers. But I wouldn't count
them out because of what krat said, Like they just
have too much talent and they have too many guys
that individually can just put a team on their back.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, I whole hardly agree with that. I think the
Phillies do have a better chance. I just I don't
see it for either side. Yeah, I could see the
Phillies taking a game. Maybe they crack Yamamoto, But what
do you got?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
And Scott, you said the Dodgers' offense is rolling. They've
scored him two innings for a Dodgers offense, that is awesome.
The Phillies starting rotation and pretty much eight of the
nine innings they have I don't feel like the Dodgers
offense is like rolling, rolling, But the Dodgers have done
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the same thing. They kind of struggled sometimes against starters,
same thing as the Phillies, and then the bullpen comes
in and there's a guy they're like, no, no, yes,
we got something than on him, Yes we see him. Well,
yes this is our guy. And both both games they
scored all their runs in the seventh inning, nine runs
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in the seventh.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
You said the quiet thing out loud. I was, That's
what I was thinking. I was hearing that, Like, both
these teams typically have trouble hitting, starting pitching, but there's
guys in the bullpen they get to. Does that make
you believe that they may have things on the bullpen
guys that they can't get on starters.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Maybe maybe or or they're able to eliminate pitches. They're
able to eliminate pitches. I mean that to me, that's
that's better than any tell Like if you're like this
guy is a two pitch guy. He never throws his
breaking ball for a strike or anything in. I think
the Dodgers do a great job of eliminating zones. Starting
pitchers are good at all four quadrants. When a Matt
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Strom comes in, he's probably only going to run that
slider in off. Say guys, hey, when that slider, when
anything starts in, we're taking it down. And this is
what KP's talking about. Good team at bats. You you
strike out looking at a fastball in against Strom, if
that's their game plan, and you know what, we tip
(37:11):
our cap. We move on and then when he makes
a mistake, anything out over, we're smashing it. We're on
time for it, whatever it is.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Yeah, I think that's a fair point. Typically starters have
a much you know, bigger arsenal pitches be able to
use the entirety of the plate. And when you do
get to those bullpen guys, even if they have a
third pitch, like you are gonna eliminate one, you're gonna
turn them into two pitch guy, but ultimately you're going
to turn him to a one side of the plate guy.
So I think there's some truth to that, more so
(37:40):
than getting into this kind of going down this rabbit
hole of always thinking that you know, a pitcher gives
up runs or you know, gives up a home run,
he's tipping. I think it could come down to this,
you know, game planning too.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
And the buggaboo for the Dodgers still is there. I mean,
they're traditional relievers right now, are not in a good spot.
This is nothing like what they imagined. They thought, you know,
Kirby Yates and Tanner Scott and trying in right and
tryning was the problem child in this particular game. I mean,
the highlights for them are Glass Night out of the bullpen.
Shean in this game, out of the bullpen, former start
rookie Sazaki. I mean, they're throwing starters out of the
(38:15):
bullpen to try and win games, and that has worked
for some teams in the past, so I'll give them credit.
And then last shout out for me, of course, Doc Roberts,
who's super super battle tested, gets to push the Will
Smith button in the seventh inning where he would never
be up in that spot, and you have, like, what
a top three hitting catcher in baseball who gets to
step in with the first pitch, line drive, two run
single and that made it three to nothing. So prohaps
(38:38):
to this team. They've got a lot of talent. They're
in a really good spot. If you've got thoughts on
this series, then drop them in the comments let us know.
We'll talk about it more on foul Territory throughout the week.
Thank you so much for watching, and we have ft
still every day one o'clock Eastern time. We have plenty
of postgame shows that we'll do. We'll get KP on
something Blue Jays related or you can catch them on
(38:58):
Blue Jays coverage too. We did a little interview with
him earlier on fal Terra Turn Monday, so check that out.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
KP.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Thanks for joining us for this a little late night.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Yeah, I must prefer the earlier slot. This is a
little tough on me, but you know what, it was
worse standing up to see you know, Crafts of Sleepy
Eyes too.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
You did it, You did it, KP. It's a good
rite of passage here. Just for the playoffs and Krafts,
your legend will see it in a little bit. Thanks everyone,
we'll see it soon.
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