October 7, 2025 • 25 mins
Former Toronto "Superman" Kevin Pillar is covering the Blue Jays-Yankees series on-site and delivers the goods on what he's been witnessing. He tells us how the Toronto culture has significantly changed. Plus, he got to throw out the first pitch of Game 2.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Blue Jay's Great Kevin Polar joining us right now on
FT and you'll see him on some FT stuff coming
soon again. Good to see you, dude. And before we
get to anything else, there are people that are just
going to watch this clip and they want your instant
reaction to the offense of the outburst that you've seen. Man,
what the heck's going on here? And I know we've
seen a lot of this during the season, but are
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you surprised that they've put up more runs in the
first two games of the playoffs for them than any
team ever?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I mean, yeah, surprised, a little bit surprised. But the atmosphere,
I mean, it's hard to not be extra motivated playing
in Toronto. I mean I can't even describe the scene
on game one, the scene on game two, but they
came out swinging it. You know, they're trying to make
a statement and they made a statement.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Hey KP, what was What was it like? I mean,
you're talking about the atmosphere, and what I want to
know is what was it like? Because if you watched
that Vladimir Guerrero Grand Slam yesterday, it was almost like
he knew what was happening. He took a two zero
change up. It was like he was just sitting there
waiting for that ninety eight in and he did not
miss it. When he hit that ball in the I
don't know if it was the second or third deck
out there in left field. That place was as loud
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and as crazy as I've seen a baseball stadium in
a long time.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, I mean, it's probably the second loudest I've ever
heard it aside from Jose Batista's you know, batflip game,
but it was very similar. I mean, it was like
this crazy build up. It was so loud. He took
the pitch, you know, it was really loud, and then
there's this moment where it just gets really silent. Right
as the pitch is coming in, you hear the sound
of the bat and then it just explodes. And then
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it went on forever and ever and ever, and it
was one of the best scenes that I'd seen in
baseball in a long time. That and you know what
they did for trey Ya Savage when he came out
of the dugout. Both curtain calls were just electric. I mean,
the decibel levels were, you know, into the one tenth.
It was just insane. And you know from first pitch,
there was a little moment there when they got up
a little bit and it turned into a little bit
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of a party there. You could tell people like, we're
able to exhale and just kind of enjoy the game
a little bit. Boujas did a great job of just
trying to get some guys in the game that you know,
maybe hadn't pitched in the bull in the playoffs yet,
trying to keep guys fresh in the bullpen. The Yankees
did a good job of getting a little bit of
momentum maybe for game tomorrow, but ultimately it was just
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a dominating two days performance by the Blue Jays.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
What'd you say from Tredy Savage? Were you able to
see like field level from him? Because from TV level
it looks like it looks like a creative player.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Dude, It's crazy. I mean, I didn't get a chance
to go down there on field level. I was up
in the prex at the press box. Eventually I went
down to the sports Net booth, which is in left
center field, right near where Gladdy hit his home run.
They have some better TV set up there, but I
needed to watch it from like a fans perspective at home,
because I just couldn't make sense of how awful the
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swings were on all of it pitches. I've never seen
a pitching performance like that, especially from a twenty two
year old kid with three starts. And the bigger story
going into it was what he said going into that
start is he was built for this moment. And I'm
thinking this could go one of two ways. Either this
kid really knows he's built for the moment or he
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put his foot in his mouth. But after what I
saw yesterday, it's got to be one of the best
pitching performances I've ever ever seen. You know, live KP.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I mean, you're super fresh out of the game. You
were playing baseball earlier this season in the major leagues.
How do you prepare for someone so unique like that?
There was some news about how the Yankees loved the
traject system, which many teams use to simulate pitches as
a pitching machine. Right that simulates the arm angle and
the pitch spin velocity, et cetera. They can't bring that
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on the road, and they didn't have time to prepare
for that with you Savage as they went three games
with Red Sox. Do you think that would have helped.
Or is this dude just so nasty and so different
that the first time you see him for an opposition
it's really difficult.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, no doubt in my mind it would have helped.
But I mean, this was one of my talking points
a pregame is you could only do so much to
prepare for a guy. You have the traject, you have
the spreadsheets, you have the video. I gave an example
of Opening Day this year. I was facing Garrett Crochet.
I was at home. I knew I was facing him
for a whole week. I watched all the video, we had,
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all the meetings, I had all the information, I had
the projects. Nothing prepared me for what I actually saw
when I got in the box. And I was saying
it was going to be a challenge for the Yankees hitters,
at least the first time through the order. I felt
like they were gonna be a little bit more passive.
They needed to actually pick up that funky arm action,
and they need to see some pitches off of him,
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try to pick up that release point. They could have
had anything and everything. I don't think anything was going
to prepare him for what they got. Yes, today, KP.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Worrying about Trey's outage. Just it's so different. I said,
It's kind of like remember Josh Colementer, I don't know
if you played against him or FaceTime kind of threw that.
He kind of, but he threw eighty five. This guy
throws ninety five plus with a nasty split. Clementer was like,
you know, kind of the high fastball before it was
cool when he had a little change up, But this
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dude is legit ninety five plus with that split finger.
I don't know that I've ever seen anybody, and I
don't care what machine you have until you actually step
in the box and see it. You saw the Yankees
had no answer for especially his split fingers. It's probably
the best split finger I've seen a guy throw in
a long long time.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, I mean, as you know, I mean I'm recent
out the game, you're not that far removed. I mean,
stuff is stuff. Everyone has great stuff. It's like what
really separates guys at you know, at this level, you're
splitting hairs when you do get a guy with the
uniqueness of Trey Savage, the uniqueness of like a Garrett Crochet,
that's what makes him super elite and Obviously, this kid
has the intangibles too. He has the confidence, he has
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the belief in himself. He was able to kind of
control his heartbeat. You know, we were sitting there was
a big conversation, you know, locally here about when when
John Schneider came out and announced him as a Game
two starter, and you know, there were some people kind
of you know, second questioning that, you know, he's twenty
two years old, if he built for this moment three
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major league starts, and from a player's perspective, I kept
trying to remind people they're not putting him in there
because of his stuff. They know the type of human being,
they know the type of competitor. There's a reason they
brought him up earlier in this year. It was for
this moment. They knew who they were getting when they
drafted him, that he was built for moments like this,
and he went out and proved it yesterday.
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Speaker 4 (07:48):
The amount of runs that have been scored, I get it.
Two teams that score a lot of runs. But seeing
some of the balls that were flying out Ernie Clement
front footing, one handing a ball, do you feel the
ball is traveling different? And if they have to come
back to Toronto and the roof is closed, does that
change it? Or is there is it just the playoff
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adrenaline that's making some of these balls go out?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Man, I mean the conspiracy theorist. I mean to say
the balls are a little bit different too, But I
mean the roof being opening was definitely a big factor.
It was a conversation. It was something that, I mean,
the weather could be any better here, so thankfully that
they opened it up. But there was a back and
forth between Major League Baseball and the Toronto Blue Jays,
you know, kind of begging them for it to be
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open because the weather was so nice. But if you
would have asked anyone who that potentially would have favored,
people would have shit the Yankees. You know, that's a
team that's kind of reliant on the home run, a
little bit more slug a little bit more than the
Blue Jays. But yeah, I mean the joke was with
the Ernie Clement home run. I was like, if you
only had to hit it in ninety three or ninety four,
maybe I could have played a little bit longer to
get one out. But it's the Blue Jays. Just I mean,
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I'm almost at a loss for words, you know, I
think what the hitting coach is is and that's kind
of I think the X factor kind of behind the
closed doors. I haven't yet to had that conversation with him.
I ran into him in the hallways, but I really
kind of want to know, Like, you know, the culture
has completely changed here. Guys had bought into kind of
playing old school baseball, like being tough outs, being okay,
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you know. I think we always talk about trying to
be so perfect in the batter's box, and it's so
difficult to be perfect. I think what they've done a
good job is, here are your strengths. If you're going
to chase, chase in the area of those strengths, don't
chase somewhere where you're not going to be able to
like handle the ball or do some damage. But every
guy that goes up to the play has a very
distinct plan of passing it to the next guy, making
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it harder on the picture to get you out, and
with some mistakes are made as you continue to just
wear out pictures, mistakes are made. And the Blue Jays
did a really good job of getting guys on base
and making it really tough to pitch around. Those top
four guys in their lineup are the ones that really
slug in their lineup kind of like AJ mentioned, you know,
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that at bat goes completely different if there's a base
open and you're facing facing Vladie there. But he got
into a two oh count. He took that two oho
change up, and he was looking for one pitch and
he got that pitch and didn't miss it.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
KP.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Hold up, did Crats just say that the Blue Jays
are juicing the ball somehow or the Major League Baseball
change because now I.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Think, no, not you, not you, I said, Crats, Crats.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I think Krats just accused the Blue Jays of not
using the humidor or I don't know, maybe using cork bats.
I'm not sure, Crats, is that what you said, because
I swear you said, like if you could hit a
ball ninety two or whatever it was that, uh the
man what you could still play?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Said, I would still be playing that I could get
away with ninety three hit. But you know, you guys
all played in the postseason. Liked adrenaline too, though adrenaline
is a crazy thing, like you know, but you know,
talking about that play too, where you know, the the
margins in those games are so fine in the playoffs,
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and like the difference in Ernie Clement like having the
ability to you know, feel like he can get the
ball in the air to any part of the ballpark.
Was really Aaron Judge kind of missed playing that ball
down the line. Instead of it being a double, it's
a triple. You know, those little you know things that
happen in playoff games, you know ultimately changed, like the
outcomes of games. You know, you get that runner at
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second base, maybe a guy like Ernie Clements asked to
kind of bump there or have a good team at
bat and move the ball the other way. The fact
that there was a runner at third base there, you
know he could be ultra aggressive on that curve ball
and just knowing he had to get the ball up
in the air. You know, that wasn't a swing where
he was trying to hit a home run. He just
did a really good job of staying through the baseball,
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getting the ball in the air, spun it the right way,
and got rewarded with hitting home run. But maybe that's
more about the roof being open and you know, the
wind blowing a little bit. But just one through nine,
they're just such a tough at bat.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
By the way, I tell you where the balls aren't
and maybe they need to close the roofs in Seattle.
I don't know if you saw the games out of here,
but the first game, I think it was the JP
Crawford hit wh like one fourteen with twenty eight degree
launch angle in the in the outfielder caught it, not
even on the warning track, So I don't know if
it's Marine layer.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Maybe they need to close the roof in Seattle because
the ball ain't going nowhere in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, it was a It was a big discussion too,
Like earlier when I was playing in Texas that early on.
Historically that lade as a hitters ballpark, but guys were
complaining about the same stuff. You know, guys are good
at understanding like exit velocity and trajectory launch angle. You know,
it should be a home run most of the time,
and guys were not getting rewarded in Texas. And then
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we looked it up and you know, Texas was a
top five worst place to hit, but number one in
baseball with Seattle. So they need to figure out something
there because over the recent history there's been a lot
of players that have come in there as free agents
and they have a really bad year so there's there's
something with how big the stadium a marine layer, but
that's a place that really needs to get rid of
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the humid ord reward guys for hitting the ball one fourteen.
He should be rounding the bases celebrating with his teammates. Instead,
it's just an f eate.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
What do you think the clubhouse feeling is about the
comments that were made from both sides throughout the year?
Michael Kay earlier saying the Blue Jays aren't a first
place team, and more recently Buck Martinez is saying very
good team because of X, Y and Z. What do
you think the clubhouse feeling is on that? Because Aaron
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Boone commented on it, so it's clearly being heard.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah, I was more concerned about the recent comments that
Buck Martinez made and motivating the Yankees. You know, thinking
back to the year I was with Atlanta and we
won that big game too, and things that come out
about Orlando Arcia, you know, kind of poking fun at
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Bryce Harper. You know, it was it got blown up.
It wasn't that big of a deal, but it became
bulletin board material and the player Bryce Harper was and
then the player he was after being that little extra
motivated was really the biggest difference in the series, and
I was very concerned for the Blue Jays and the
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Yankees using that as extra motivation. I think the other
way around. I think the stuff that Michael kay had
said was, you know, so far removed that you know,
you could use it as motivation a little bit, But
it wasn't you know, today's news. I thought today's news
was going to really wake a sleeping giant. The fact
that Aaron Boone commented on it meant that not only
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did he hear it, but his players had heard it.
But you got to be careful in these situations. You
don't want to give the other team extra motivation. But
on that note, this is where I was kind of
thinking last night, with everything that happened, I was in
a very similar situation the Yankees were in. When I
was with the Blue Jays here in two thousand, team
we lost both games and ultimately we came back and
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won that series. I'm thinking how the media is playing
a factor in this. When I was with Toronto, still
the sense from the media was not that it was
over by any means, but there was still kind of
this motivational. They left this window open for us a
little bit. I'm wondering what it's like being in the
New York Yankees clubhouse yesterday after going down O two
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and just knowing how difficult the media can be in
New York. If they're able to kind of come back
from this, that's kind of the thing I'm going to
look forward to getting to New York tomorrow, kind of
listening and kind of navigating, you know what it said,
what's kind of the feel in the Yankees clubhouse and
if they're able to really come back from this.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
KP who are the best athletes on a baseball field.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
The shortstop and the center fielder typically.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Okay, because I was gonna say catcher, because I saw.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Two first pitches this weekend from the Blue Jays. One
of them was money from a catcher in Russell Martin,
and one of them from an outfielder couldn't make it
that far. So I don't know what happened to your
arm in the last you know, nine to ten months,
but the fact that you can't throw a first pitch
actually is kind of embarrassing for the foul Territory family
because we've all done them and we've all thrown strikes,
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and then there's this.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Like what happened?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
What happened? Was? I was, you know, let me tell
you something. Let me tell you something. I'm gonna step
back real quick, right. I just got done. I just
got done playing. I'm walking around the stadium. Everyone's like, man,
you look great. You could still play. And I just
wanted to remind everyone there's a reason I got released,
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and there's a reason even though I look like I
could play, I can't do it anymore. And I was
just I was letting everyone know I was. I was.
I was closing the door. I was. I was closing
the earbook. I'm letting everyone know I don't got it anymore.
I may look the part, but I can't play. So
is it as embarrassing as it was? I'll tell you
I've never been so damn nervous in my whole life.
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I'll be honest with you. I was. I was like
I had known about it for a week and I
was like, really excited to do it. I did the show,
I watched Russ do it, and honestly, I was a
little bit pissed that Russ just fired one in there
like he had been playing his whole damn life like
he had never stopped playing right. And then I'm down
in there, they do this whole thing. I walk out
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and I mean, it was a top ten moment in
my life going out there. But I get on the mound,
my legs are shaken. The baseball feels like a balloon,
like it's got no weight to it, and I'm like,
if you know, maybe I can just float it in there.
But damn, yeah, it was. It was a little embarrassing.
It was a little embarrassing. I'm not gonna lie.
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Speaker 5 (18:20):
Right geot, we were in commercial. I was like, well,
I didn't realize this was live. I know, Sorry, this
is the commercial.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
You get MLB obviously in the playoffs, because Fox rules
MLB playoffs. I think you get Big Noon, which is
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Speaker 5 (18:37):
I don't know if you can get the NFL on there,
but yeah you did.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Oh well, then how do you not have Fox one?
I have Fox one. I watch it all the time.
I need to watch a game. People are complaining they
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Speaker 4 (18:51):
I mean, it's all about how you start your day,
and you clearly showed us just now. If you want
to have success, you're not starting your day off well,
make your bed one time. This isn't We're not We're
not on the MLB network here. This is foul territory.
Get your bed in order as soon as you wake up.
It looks trash.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
That is trash.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
And then you want to throw on a first pitch strike.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
All right, rookie, Hey, did you also when you threw
out your first pitch were you were in full you
were in full tucks, full full suit attire.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
I was gonna say, you're it looked like a European
cut on your tucks because fight.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
It was tight. It was tight. You know that. The
joke I kept telling everyone is, you know, I never
got my signing day, I never got draft day, So
like wearing the suit with the jersey over is like, yeah,
I finally made it. I finally made it. That's what
it That's what it looks like. But yeah, that thing
was tight. I'm not gonna lie those joggers. That's a
tailored suit, my friend.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Wow, so embarrassed.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
People will have a talk about suits on the air,
and well.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I can do another questions. Hey, I have a question
for you, And obviously we're in much different positions in
terms of media, but I can't go I can't find
it within myself to go inside the clubhouse. How long
did that take you to kind of feel and your
responsibility is a little bit different than mine, but you know,
I feel like I can't cross that line yet. How
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long does it take you to feel like you should
go in there? You know you feel comfortable going in there.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I listen, I've been doing this for a long even Listen,
I was doing this when I was playing KP and
twenty eleven was the first time I did this, and
it was we're in the postseason and we're in the Tigers.
We're in the playoffs and I'm doing the Tigers, and
I was in the Al Central. I'm going in there
having meetings with Jim Leland, who manages the Tigers, and
I'm playing against the nineteen times a year, and he's
given me secrets and I look at him. I go, hey, hey,
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humperting his nickname, like hey, huh, you know that I
still play right, and goes, yeah, You're too stupid to
remember anything I say anyway, so don't worry about it, right,
And then I walk in there and I'm justin Verlander
and Migi Cabrera, all these guys who I just played
twenty times a year before, and they were looking at me.
And to this day, I tell people this all the time.
It's still awkward as hell for me to walk into
the clubhouse. Not because I don't know the guys, because
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because of Foul Territory, I'm very fortunate. I get to
know a lot of these guys and they know me
from Foul Territory and from Fox.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
But it's still awkward. Like I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
In here and I have to do it, but I
also am like, can we get out of here? I
just need to talk to one person. It's like I
want to just get out.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I want to get out because I know I'm also
like so close to removed that like, I know a
lot of these guys, like I played with a lot
of these guys, And my big thing is one, I
don't really have to be in there for what I'm doing.
It would be like nice just for me to kind
of like learn some stuff as I maybe continue to
progress in this industry. But I also don't want someone
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to feel obligated to like come over and say hi
because I was in their position and I was still playing,
and there was someone part of the media that was
right out of the game that I knew you kind
of feel obligated to least go say hi, see how
they're doing and stuff. You know. So I part of
me wants to kind of just do go into the
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Yankee side because I've never been in there, and I
kind of just maybe want to get kind of a
you know, for what it what it looks like and
what it kind of feels like to kind of help
me with what I'm supposed to be kind of reporting on.
But it's been hard for me to kind of cross
that line.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Listen, yesterday. I'll use this.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I told this on the Area yesterday. We're school Ball
is pitching, and obviously I know school but we've had
him on the show. I've talked to him a million times.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
He's great. He's pitching.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Yesterday, I'm in the Tiger's clubhouse and he's walking right
at me, and I make I try to go up
to guys and say hi, just say hi, good luck,
have a great show, you know, great game. Bo Scooba
walks up to me and he's you know, and I'm like,
some guys.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Starting pictures are so like, I can't talk to you.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
So he walks up to me and he smiles and
goes hey and sticks out his fist and gives me
a fist bump, and I'm like, hey, have a great game.
And then I was like, because I don't want to know,
he's you know. Starting Pitchers don't lock their eyes, so
some guys make it easy, some guys don't. But just
be yourself, man, like, enjoy it and go in the
Yankees clubhouse because it's.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Kind of cool. Actually, and their crats will, so it's.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Cool, crats. Is it worth seeing?
Speaker 4 (23:04):
It's worth seeing. It's one of the best ones for sure.
They did it. They did it very pro style. You'll
see that.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
That might be the easier start of like a place
that I didn't play. I know guys there, but like
it's still kind of personal, like going into like the
Blue Jays clubhouse. I know a lot of the staff,
the players, obviously a lot of turnover. But maybe that
would be a good place to start tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, it can be scary, but yeah, once you jump
in there, at least, yeah, can sit on the cat.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
He would you would? You would you advise like the
best way walk in and just go straight to the
refrigerator pull out like a gatorade or a.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Water and then and then go sit and judge didn't judge,
didn't judge your feet.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Up and then like Jazz.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
When he comes when he comes back from the cage,
I'm just sitting in his chair, feet up. Yeah, he
would love that, and then immediately ask him for a
sign bats Jersey.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
J When you're done, yeah, go up to each starting
pitcher and just be like, what's up?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Just wanted to say, hellow go up to who's starting
tomorrow and just yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
Yeah, yeah, I'll love that.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, just be like, oh I love following your your
wife on Twitter. She always like posts about your starts,
like what do you think she's gonna stay after this one?
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Today?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
All right, we're off the rails. We gotta go because
we gotta get ready for next guests. But we're gonna
have KP later, so we'll see on the post game show.
We're going to recap Brewis Cubs.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Who's on post game?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
You me and Krats. AJ has got to get beauty
rest for his early game the next day, but you,
me and Krats will be on. We're gonna do Brewers
Cubs and we'll still obviously recap also Philly Dodgers from
before that. We'll do it all after Brewers Cubs later
tonight live on YouTube. KP, good stuff man, great to
have you on. We'll see you later.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I'm gonna get my bed made before.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Oh yeah, crafts is very strict. One thing to do
in eight hours from now.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Thanks KP.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
See you soon, you guys,
Blue Jay's Great Kevin Polar joining us right now on
FT and you'll see him on some FT stuff coming
soon again. Good to see you, dude. And before we
get to anything else, there are people that are just
going to watch this clip and they want your instant
reaction to the offense of the outburst that you've seen. Man,
what the heck's going on here? And I know we've
seen a lot of this during the season, but are
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you surprised that they've put up more runs in the
first two games of the playoffs for them than any
team ever?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I mean, yeah, surprised, a little bit surprised. But the atmosphere,
I mean, it's hard to not be extra motivated playing
in Toronto. I mean I can't even describe the scene
on game one, the scene on game two, but they
came out swinging it. You know, they're trying to make
a statement and they made a statement.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Hey KP, what was What was it like? I mean,
you're talking about the atmosphere, and what I want to
know is what was it like? Because if you watched
that Vladimir Guerrero Grand Slam yesterday, it was almost like
he knew what was happening. He took a two zero
change up. It was like he was just sitting there
waiting for that ninety eight in and he did not
miss it. When he hit that ball in the I
don't know if it was the second or third deck
out there in left field. That place was as loud
(01:13):
and as crazy as I've seen a baseball stadium in
a long time.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, I mean, it's probably the second loudest I've ever
heard it aside from Jose Batista's you know, batflip game,
but it was very similar. I mean, it was like
this crazy build up. It was so loud. He took
the pitch, you know, it was really loud, and then
there's this moment where it just gets really silent. Right
as the pitch is coming in, you hear the sound
of the bat and then it just explodes. And then
(01:39):
it went on forever and ever and ever, and it
was one of the best scenes that I'd seen in
baseball in a long time. That and you know what
they did for trey Ya Savage when he came out
of the dugout. Both curtain calls were just electric. I mean,
the decibel levels were, you know, into the one tenth.
It was just insane. And you know from first pitch,
there was a little moment there when they got up
a little bit and it turned into a little bit
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of a party there. You could tell people like, we're
able to exhale and just kind of enjoy the game
a little bit. Boujas did a great job of just
trying to get some guys in the game that you know,
maybe hadn't pitched in the bull in the playoffs yet,
trying to keep guys fresh in the bullpen. The Yankees
did a good job of getting a little bit of
momentum maybe for game tomorrow, but ultimately it was just
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a dominating two days performance by the Blue Jays.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
What'd you say from Tredy Savage? Were you able to
see like field level from him? Because from TV level
it looks like it looks like a creative player.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Dude, It's crazy. I mean, I didn't get a chance
to go down there on field level. I was up
in the prex at the press box. Eventually I went
down to the sports Net booth, which is in left
center field, right near where Gladdy hit his home run.
They have some better TV set up there, but I
needed to watch it from like a fans perspective at home,
because I just couldn't make sense of how awful the
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swings were on all of it pitches. I've never seen
a pitching performance like that, especially from a twenty two
year old kid with three starts. And the bigger story
going into it was what he said going into that
start is he was built for this moment. And I'm
thinking this could go one of two ways. Either this
kid really knows he's built for the moment or he
(03:22):
put his foot in his mouth. But after what I
saw yesterday, it's got to be one of the best
pitching performances I've ever ever seen. You know, live KP.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I mean, you're super fresh out of the game. You
were playing baseball earlier this season in the major leagues.
How do you prepare for someone so unique like that?
There was some news about how the Yankees loved the
traject system, which many teams use to simulate pitches as
a pitching machine. Right that simulates the arm angle and
the pitch spin velocity, et cetera. They can't bring that
(03:55):
on the road, and they didn't have time to prepare
for that with you Savage as they went three games
with Red Sox. Do you think that would have helped.
Or is this dude just so nasty and so different
that the first time you see him for an opposition
it's really difficult.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, no doubt in my mind it would have helped.
But I mean, this was one of my talking points
a pregame is you could only do so much to
prepare for a guy. You have the traject, you have
the spreadsheets, you have the video. I gave an example
of Opening Day this year. I was facing Garrett Crochet.
I was at home. I knew I was facing him
for a whole week. I watched all the video, we had,
(04:31):
all the meetings, I had all the information, I had
the projects. Nothing prepared me for what I actually saw
when I got in the box. And I was saying
it was going to be a challenge for the Yankees hitters,
at least the first time through the order. I felt
like they were gonna be a little bit more passive.
They needed to actually pick up that funky arm action,
and they need to see some pitches off of him,
(04:51):
try to pick up that release point. They could have
had anything and everything. I don't think anything was going
to prepare him for what they got. Yes, today, KP.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Worrying about Trey's outage. Just it's so different. I said,
It's kind of like remember Josh Colementer, I don't know
if you played against him or FaceTime kind of threw that.
He kind of, but he threw eighty five. This guy
throws ninety five plus with a nasty split. Clementer was like,
you know, kind of the high fastball before it was
cool when he had a little change up, But this
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dude is legit ninety five plus with that split finger.
I don't know that I've ever seen anybody, and I
don't care what machine you have until you actually step
in the box and see it. You saw the Yankees
had no answer for especially his split fingers. It's probably
the best split finger I've seen a guy throw in
a long long time.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, I mean, as you know, I mean I'm recent
out the game, you're not that far removed. I mean,
stuff is stuff. Everyone has great stuff. It's like what
really separates guys at you know, at this level, you're
splitting hairs when you do get a guy with the
uniqueness of Trey Savage, the uniqueness of like a Garrett Crochet,
that's what makes him super elite and Obviously, this kid
has the intangibles too. He has the confidence, he has
(06:03):
the belief in himself. He was able to kind of
control his heartbeat. You know, we were sitting there was
a big conversation, you know, locally here about when when
John Schneider came out and announced him as a Game
two starter, and you know, there were some people kind
of you know, second questioning that, you know, he's twenty
two years old, if he built for this moment three
(06:24):
major league starts, and from a player's perspective, I kept
trying to remind people they're not putting him in there
because of his stuff. They know the type of human being,
they know the type of competitor. There's a reason they
brought him up earlier in this year. It was for
this moment. They knew who they were getting when they
drafted him, that he was built for moments like this,
and he went out and proved it yesterday.
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Speaker 4 (07:48):
The amount of runs that have been scored, I get it.
Two teams that score a lot of runs. But seeing
some of the balls that were flying out Ernie Clement
front footing, one handing a ball, do you feel the
ball is traveling different? And if they have to come
back to Toronto and the roof is closed, does that
change it? Or is there is it just the playoff
(08:10):
adrenaline that's making some of these balls go out?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Man, I mean the conspiracy theorist. I mean to say
the balls are a little bit different too, But I
mean the roof being opening was definitely a big factor.
It was a conversation. It was something that, I mean,
the weather could be any better here, so thankfully that
they opened it up. But there was a back and
forth between Major League Baseball and the Toronto Blue Jays,
you know, kind of begging them for it to be
(08:34):
open because the weather was so nice. But if you
would have asked anyone who that potentially would have favored,
people would have shit the Yankees. You know, that's a
team that's kind of reliant on the home run, a
little bit more slug a little bit more than the
Blue Jays. But yeah, I mean the joke was with
the Ernie Clement home run. I was like, if you
only had to hit it in ninety three or ninety four,
maybe I could have played a little bit longer to
get one out. But it's the Blue Jays. Just I mean,
(09:01):
I'm almost at a loss for words, you know, I
think what the hitting coach is is and that's kind
of I think the X factor kind of behind the
closed doors. I haven't yet to had that conversation with him.
I ran into him in the hallways, but I really
kind of want to know, Like, you know, the culture
has completely changed here. Guys had bought into kind of
playing old school baseball, like being tough outs, being okay,
(09:25):
you know. I think we always talk about trying to
be so perfect in the batter's box, and it's so
difficult to be perfect. I think what they've done a
good job is, here are your strengths. If you're going
to chase, chase in the area of those strengths, don't
chase somewhere where you're not going to be able to
like handle the ball or do some damage. But every
guy that goes up to the play has a very
distinct plan of passing it to the next guy, making
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it harder on the picture to get you out, and
with some mistakes are made as you continue to just
wear out pictures, mistakes are made. And the Blue Jays
did a really good job of getting guys on base
and making it really tough to pitch around. Those top
four guys in their lineup are the ones that really
slug in their lineup kind of like AJ mentioned, you know,
(10:08):
that at bat goes completely different if there's a base
open and you're facing facing Vladie there. But he got
into a two oh count. He took that two oho
change up, and he was looking for one pitch and
he got that pitch and didn't miss it.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
KP.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Hold up, did Crats just say that the Blue Jays
are juicing the ball somehow or the Major League Baseball
change because now I.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Think, no, not you, not you, I said, Crats, Crats.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I think Krats just accused the Blue Jays of not
using the humidor or I don't know, maybe using cork bats.
I'm not sure, Crats, is that what you said, because
I swear you said, like if you could hit a
ball ninety two or whatever it was that, uh the
man what you could still play?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Said, I would still be playing that I could get
away with ninety three hit. But you know, you guys
all played in the postseason. Liked adrenaline too, though adrenaline
is a crazy thing, like you know, but you know,
talking about that play too, where you know, the the
margins in those games are so fine in the playoffs,
(11:03):
and like the difference in Ernie Clement like having the
ability to you know, feel like he can get the
ball in the air to any part of the ballpark.
Was really Aaron Judge kind of missed playing that ball
down the line. Instead of it being a double, it's
a triple. You know, those little you know things that
happen in playoff games, you know ultimately changed, like the
outcomes of games. You know, you get that runner at
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second base, maybe a guy like Ernie Clements asked to
kind of bump there or have a good team at
bat and move the ball the other way. The fact
that there was a runner at third base there, you
know he could be ultra aggressive on that curve ball
and just knowing he had to get the ball up
in the air. You know, that wasn't a swing where
he was trying to hit a home run. He just
did a really good job of staying through the baseball,
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getting the ball in the air, spun it the right way,
and got rewarded with hitting home run. But maybe that's
more about the roof being open and you know, the
wind blowing a little bit. But just one through nine,
they're just such a tough at bat.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
By the way, I tell you where the balls aren't
and maybe they need to close the roofs in Seattle.
I don't know if you saw the games out of here,
but the first game, I think it was the JP
Crawford hit wh like one fourteen with twenty eight degree
launch angle in the in the outfielder caught it, not
even on the warning track, So I don't know if
it's Marine layer.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Maybe they need to close the roof in Seattle because
the ball ain't going nowhere in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, it was a It was a big discussion too,
Like earlier when I was playing in Texas that early on.
Historically that lade as a hitters ballpark, but guys were
complaining about the same stuff. You know, guys are good
at understanding like exit velocity and trajectory launch angle. You know,
it should be a home run most of the time,
and guys were not getting rewarded in Texas. And then
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we looked it up and you know, Texas was a
top five worst place to hit, but number one in
baseball with Seattle. So they need to figure out something
there because over the recent history there's been a lot
of players that have come in there as free agents
and they have a really bad year so there's there's
something with how big the stadium a marine layer, but
that's a place that really needs to get rid of
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the humid ord reward guys for hitting the ball one fourteen.
He should be rounding the bases celebrating with his teammates. Instead,
it's just an f eate.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
What do you think the clubhouse feeling is about the
comments that were made from both sides throughout the year?
Michael Kay earlier saying the Blue Jays aren't a first
place team, and more recently Buck Martinez is saying very
good team because of X, Y and Z. What do
you think the clubhouse feeling is on that? Because Aaron
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Boone commented on it, so it's clearly being heard.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah, I was more concerned about the recent comments that
Buck Martinez made and motivating the Yankees. You know, thinking
back to the year I was with Atlanta and we
won that big game too, and things that come out
about Orlando Arcia, you know, kind of poking fun at
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Bryce Harper. You know, it was it got blown up.
It wasn't that big of a deal, but it became
bulletin board material and the player Bryce Harper was and
then the player he was after being that little extra
motivated was really the biggest difference in the series, and
I was very concerned for the Blue Jays and the
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Yankees using that as extra motivation. I think the other
way around. I think the stuff that Michael kay had
said was, you know, so far removed that you know,
you could use it as motivation a little bit, But
it wasn't you know, today's news. I thought today's news
was going to really wake a sleeping giant. The fact
that Aaron Boone commented on it meant that not only
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did he hear it, but his players had heard it.
But you got to be careful in these situations. You
don't want to give the other team extra motivation. But
on that note, this is where I was kind of
thinking last night, with everything that happened, I was in
a very similar situation the Yankees were in. When I
was with the Blue Jays here in two thousand, team
we lost both games and ultimately we came back and
(15:04):
won that series. I'm thinking how the media is playing
a factor in this. When I was with Toronto, still
the sense from the media was not that it was
over by any means, but there was still kind of
this motivational. They left this window open for us a
little bit. I'm wondering what it's like being in the
New York Yankees clubhouse yesterday after going down O two
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and just knowing how difficult the media can be in
New York. If they're able to kind of come back
from this, that's kind of the thing I'm going to
look forward to getting to New York tomorrow, kind of
listening and kind of navigating, you know what it said,
what's kind of the feel in the Yankees clubhouse and
if they're able to really come back from this.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
KP who are the best athletes on a baseball field.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
The shortstop and the center fielder typically.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Okay, because I was gonna say catcher, because I saw.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Two first pitches this weekend from the Blue Jays. One
of them was money from a catcher in Russell Martin,
and one of them from an outfielder couldn't make it
that far. So I don't know what happened to your
arm in the last you know, nine to ten months,
but the fact that you can't throw a first pitch
actually is kind of embarrassing for the foul Territory family
because we've all done them and we've all thrown strikes,
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and then there's this.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Like what happened?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
What happened? Was? I was, you know, let me tell
you something. Let me tell you something. I'm gonna step
back real quick, right. I just got done. I just
got done playing. I'm walking around the stadium. Everyone's like, man,
you look great. You could still play. And I just
wanted to remind everyone there's a reason I got released,
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and there's a reason even though I look like I
could play, I can't do it anymore. And I was
just I was letting everyone know I was. I was.
I was closing the door. I was. I was closing
the earbook. I'm letting everyone know I don't got it anymore.
I may look the part, but I can't play. So
is it as embarrassing as it was? I'll tell you
I've never been so damn nervous in my whole life.
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I'll be honest with you. I was. I was like
I had known about it for a week and I
was like, really excited to do it. I did the show,
I watched Russ do it, and honestly, I was a
little bit pissed that Russ just fired one in there
like he had been playing his whole damn life like
he had never stopped playing right. And then I'm down
in there, they do this whole thing. I walk out
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and I mean, it was a top ten moment in
my life going out there. But I get on the mound,
my legs are shaken. The baseball feels like a balloon,
like it's got no weight to it, and I'm like,
if you know, maybe I can just float it in there.
But damn, yeah, it was. It was a little embarrassing.
It was a little embarrassing. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
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Speaker 5 (18:20):
Right geot, we were in commercial. I was like, well,
I didn't realize this was live. I know, Sorry, this
is the commercial.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
You get MLB obviously in the playoffs, because Fox rules
MLB playoffs. I think you get Big Noon, which is
their big college football show.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
I don't know if you can get the NFL on there,
but yeah you did.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Oh well, then how do you not have Fox one?
I have Fox one. I watch it all the time.
I need to watch a game. People are complaining they
couldn't find the game. If you have Fox one there
it is boom, It's easy.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
I mean, it's all about how you start your day,
and you clearly showed us just now. If you want
to have success, you're not starting your day off well,
make your bed one time. This isn't We're not We're
not on the MLB network here. This is foul territory.
Get your bed in order as soon as you wake up.
It looks trash.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
That is trash.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
And then you want to throw on a first pitch strike.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
All right, rookie, Hey, did you also when you threw
out your first pitch were you were in full you
were in full tucks, full full suit attire.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
I was gonna say, you're it looked like a European
cut on your tucks because fight.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
It was tight. It was tight. You know that. The
joke I kept telling everyone is, you know, I never
got my signing day, I never got draft day, So
like wearing the suit with the jersey over is like, yeah,
I finally made it. I finally made it. That's what
it That's what it looks like. But yeah, that thing
was tight. I'm not gonna lie those joggers. That's a
tailored suit, my friend.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Wow, so embarrassed.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
People will have a talk about suits on the air,
and well.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I can do another questions. Hey, I have a question
for you, And obviously we're in much different positions in
terms of media, but I can't go I can't find
it within myself to go inside the clubhouse. How long
did that take you to kind of feel and your
responsibility is a little bit different than mine, but you know,
I feel like I can't cross that line yet. How
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long does it take you to feel like you should
go in there? You know you feel comfortable going in there.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I listen, I've been doing this for a long even Listen,
I was doing this when I was playing KP and
twenty eleven was the first time I did this, and
it was we're in the postseason and we're in the Tigers.
We're in the playoffs and I'm doing the Tigers, and
I was in the Al Central. I'm going in there
having meetings with Jim Leland, who manages the Tigers, and
I'm playing against the nineteen times a year, and he's
given me secrets and I look at him. I go, hey, hey,
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humperting his nickname, like hey, huh, you know that I
still play right, and goes, yeah, You're too stupid to
remember anything I say anyway, so don't worry about it, right,
And then I walk in there and I'm justin Verlander
and Migi Cabrera, all these guys who I just played
twenty times a year before, and they were looking at me.
And to this day, I tell people this all the time.
It's still awkward as hell for me to walk into
the clubhouse. Not because I don't know the guys, because
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because of Foul Territory, I'm very fortunate. I get to
know a lot of these guys and they know me
from Foul Territory and from Fox.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
But it's still awkward. Like I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
In here and I have to do it, but I
also am like, can we get out of here? I
just need to talk to one person. It's like I
want to just get out.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I want to get out because I know I'm also
like so close to removed that like, I know a
lot of these guys, like I played with a lot
of these guys, And my big thing is one, I
don't really have to be in there for what I'm doing.
It would be like nice just for me to kind
of like learn some stuff as I maybe continue to
progress in this industry. But I also don't want someone
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to feel obligated to like come over and say hi
because I was in their position and I was still playing,
and there was someone part of the media that was
right out of the game that I knew you kind
of feel obligated to least go say hi, see how
they're doing and stuff. You know. So I part of
me wants to kind of just do go into the
(22:04):
Yankee side because I've never been in there, and I
kind of just maybe want to get kind of a
you know, for what it what it looks like and
what it kind of feels like to kind of help
me with what I'm supposed to be kind of reporting on.
But it's been hard for me to kind of cross
that line.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Listen, yesterday. I'll use this.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I told this on the Area yesterday. We're school Ball
is pitching, and obviously I know school but we've had
him on the show. I've talked to him a million times.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
He's great. He's pitching.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Yesterday, I'm in the Tiger's clubhouse and he's walking right
at me, and I make I try to go up
to guys and say hi, just say hi, good luck,
have a great show, you know, great game. Bo Scooba
walks up to me and he's you know, and I'm like,
some guys.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Starting pictures are so like, I can't talk to you.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
So he walks up to me and he smiles and
goes hey and sticks out his fist and gives me
a fist bump, and I'm like, hey, have a great game.
And then I was like, because I don't want to know,
he's you know. Starting Pitchers don't lock their eyes, so
some guys make it easy, some guys don't. But just
be yourself, man, like, enjoy it and go in the
Yankees clubhouse because it's.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Kind of cool. Actually, and their crats will, so it's.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Cool, crats. Is it worth seeing?
Speaker 4 (23:04):
It's worth seeing. It's one of the best ones for sure.
They did it. They did it very pro style. You'll
see that.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
That might be the easier start of like a place
that I didn't play. I know guys there, but like
it's still kind of personal, like going into like the
Blue Jays clubhouse. I know a lot of the staff,
the players, obviously a lot of turnover. But maybe that
would be a good place to start tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, it can be scary, but yeah, once you jump
in there, at least, yeah, can sit on the cat.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
He would you would? You would you advise like the
best way walk in and just go straight to the
refrigerator pull out like a gatorade or a.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Water and then and then go sit and judge didn't judge,
didn't judge your feet.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Up and then like Jazz.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
When he comes when he comes back from the cage,
I'm just sitting in his chair, feet up. Yeah, he
would love that, and then immediately ask him for a
sign bats Jersey.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
J When you're done, yeah, go up to each starting
pitcher and just be like, what's up?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Just wanted to say, hellow go up to who's starting
tomorrow and just yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
Yeah, yeah, I'll love that.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, just be like, oh I love following your your
wife on Twitter. She always like posts about your starts,
like what do you think she's gonna stay after this one?
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Today?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
All right, we're off the rails. We gotta go because
we gotta get ready for next guests. But we're gonna
have KP later, so we'll see on the post game show.
We're going to recap Brewis Cubs.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Who's on post game?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
You me and Krats. AJ has got to get beauty
rest for his early game the next day, but you,
me and Krats will be on. We're gonna do Brewers
Cubs and we'll still obviously recap also Philly Dodgers from
before that. We'll do it all after Brewers Cubs later
tonight live on YouTube. KP, good stuff man, great to
have you on. We'll see you later.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I'm gonna get my bed made before.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Oh yeah, crafts is very strict. One thing to do
in eight hours from now.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Thanks KP.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
See you soon, you guys,
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