Extra Frosting: Tiffany

I Think We’re Alone Now…except that we’re not because Tiffany is here! 

Tiffany reveals the truth behind her feud with Debbie Gibson, why she didn’t like her own hit song and Lance confesses about something that happened on tour with Britney Spears!

All that plus, we find out what Could’ve Been as Tiffany lets it fly about her past relationship with Jonathan Knight!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and my Heart
Radio podcast. Hello, my Little Peanuts, it's me your host,
Lance Bass. This is me Lance Bass, Frosted Tips with
me Lance Bass. It's like that Beyonce choreography by It's
called Beyonce. And of course my co host, Turkey Turk Chain.

(00:29):
Hello there, um today, I'm excited for an extra frosting.
I love these extra frostings to really get to know
these teen idols on the other side of the aisles.
The girl girls. Uh, it's like it's just a bad
prom where they're all in the bleachers with Okay, I'll
pick Okay, tiff you're up next. Let's go, let's dance. Uh.

(00:50):
And speaking of dancing, she's in the room right now,
So let's get to tiffan a all right. Tiffany renee Daris,
known as Tiffany American singer, song writer, actress teen icon
from Norwalk, California. Tiffany released her first album in nineteen
eighty seven, The Best year ever. I always say eighty
seven has the best music and the best movies of

(01:12):
all time. And it just so happens that Turkey Church
in here was born in nineteen eighty seven, which makes
me want to like throw up sometimes. The self titled
album featured her hit single I Think We're a Lull Now,
but skyrocket thanks to no small part to her promotional
tour in the America's Mall. I mean this is just
this follows you everywhere you were the like Mall Princess.

(01:33):
Outside of music, Tiffany has a guest startled several television
shows and has acted in a handful of horror and
science fiction films. Tiffany, welcome to Frosted Tips. We've had
We've had so many great moments together, and I have
to say you're just one of my favorite people. When
you get in the business, you know and you work
with different people, you know, your colleagues and all that

(01:54):
type of stuff. But it was something about you that
we just had a really great bond and I've just
loved being friends with you. Oh thank you, babes, both
of you guys, I mean, bringing Michael into our lives
as well, another wonderful person and artists and now the twins,
and of course I know I haven't even had a
chance to be seeing your home and so I feel

(02:15):
like a terrible friend, But I love the guys. You
know that I love you know this is this The
good thing about social media is you can see people
in their lives and what's going on because I travel
so much, you know, after the pandemic and everything, and
during and even before, I was always you know, thinking ideas.
So I've you know, created quite a bunch of different

(02:38):
small businesses that I'm working variously behind the scenes of
shadows and all the promotions. So I'm like this house
on fire right now. But i feel bad because I
come into LA and I'm like, you know, you guys
are parents. Now. It's not always just run down to
a club or run over here to Orange Downy, which
is where I'm at. People know anything about LA. It's like,

(03:01):
you know, it could be thirty minutes right there or
thirty miles and it takes you four hours. You know.
I understand it's not eating together, but we're gonna make
the time. Because I want to throw this out there.
That is my birthday wish this year is to spend
time with the people that I love and to really
just like do the backyard barbecue thing, you know, chill out, like,

(03:22):
not the restaurant thing. Although I'm a foodie, you know,
I love, let's food with Tiffany, but just to have that,
you know, time. So I think that's gonna be my
treat is to rent an airbnb in La and kind
of spend some time with you guys, because that's what
life is about, gonna have that balance. Yes, it's so true,
and we we I was just reading somewhere it was

(03:43):
it's called an eight hour note an eight minute phone
call challenge, and I'm gonna start doing this. So we're
I'm horrible on the phone, Like it's it's hard for
me to get on the phone. Now you are you
don't like the phone. I know it's because when I'm
on the phone, I start I I think of other things,
like I'm not listening. It's hard for me to listen

(04:03):
these days. So to get that back, there's this thing.
It's an eight minute challenge, and I challenge all the
listeners right now once a week, just choose someone that
you just want to be connected with again. You know,
you might text them all the time, but if you
haven't spoken to them, you call them like, look, I
want to do an eight minute challenge, and you give
yourselves exactly eight minutes and you have to catch up

(04:25):
within that eight minute. So and it's this they've studied
it where it's you know, when people are on the phone.
The reason people don't like to be on the phone
is because nope, not one person at the same time
wants to hang up, right, So one person thinks it's
going too long, one person wants to go further. So
if you have a time and it's an eight minute,
then everyone's happy at the end of the call and

(04:47):
you just have this amazing you're fulfilled. Yeah, so I
think that's so important. You know, we've all been through
so much and life and life is just even you know,
just taking life at its fullest. We all do so much.
So yeah, checking in with people is really important now
their mental health, how you do and you know, go ahead,

(05:07):
cry on my shoulder a little bit, maybe a little shaking, like, hey,
what you're doing. I'm a big fan of that. I
started it for Let Food with Tiffany on Food and Fame,
which is fifteen minute chat and your favorite recipe, why
what's happening in your life and career? And yes, with
what we use celebrities, it's got to be quick, you know.
And I was like, I'm gonna call my friends they

(05:30):
don't want to be on the phone with me forever,
and I'm not used to interviewing people like you, so
I thought, well to tap my toe into it. It'd
be fun for the cooking Club, but it'd be fun
for the adventures I'm doing in the food world and
building up that brand for myself and experiences and learning
more and time on all those things that we're doing.
So I've been having fun with that, so I'd love

(05:51):
for you to come on. I already know what I'm
going to try to know your favorite recipe. Okay, I
just okay, I just learned my favorite baking recipe. My
mom was here just a few days ago, and I'm diabetic,
so like trying to find sugar free desserts is really impossible,
especially just taste good. I my mom has the best
strawberry cake I have ever had. You would never know

(06:13):
it's sugar free, and I'm obsessed with it, and she
just taught me how to bake it. So that is
what I'm going to do on her shop. All right,
thank you, I'm going to say thank you. But you
know what everyone said when anyone says my mom or
my grandma, that's it, you know, I don't care what
it is. Yes, yeah, oh, I'm so excited to teach
you this because it's it is so dang good. Right, Yeah,

(06:36):
I can't wait. Because we we as the Cooking Club,
we do the recipe and then we hope we do
right and then of course we tag you and everything
like that, so hopefully, I mean, that's our challenge is
to do it right. Yell. Now, how do people watch
your Cooking Club? You have to join? Actually, um, you know,
I I want it to be exclusive because there is

(06:57):
so much content behind the scene that I don't do
in the music world, and bringing you into my private space,
especially my home around my family needs to be for
official people. So twenteen dollars a month. But we're doing
a lot of things with bringing partners on again, We've
got food and fame. We're going to be doing some

(07:18):
charity for food banks and things like that. So I
really want people to be a part of the Cooking
Club because it's going on to all adventures and of
course you get exclusives and discounts and even discounts to
my shows, so there's an incentive there to be a
part of it. But you know, again, it's just another
take on me that it's it's a little hard now

(07:39):
to have all these facets and then you don't have
all those commercials that you have to listen, you know to.
It's you know, we love our sponsors out there, but
you know, we just being free for everyone. But you
know you got commercials? Do you do my music on YouTube?
So that is where I have the Music Diaries, and
that was a platform that I feel like YouTube is
a platform for me, mostly for music, and that's where

(08:02):
everybody goes to to kind of connect with tip world
or retro stuff or anything. So it makes the most
sense to do something like the Music Diaries, where again
I'm not the first couple of albums. I wasn't a producer,
wasn't a songwriter. I barely play piano, you know, so
I can't really talk about the techie side of recording.

(08:23):
I can tell you some old school stuff that I know,
but you know, getting into that takes me being the
writer side. So the new stuff is where I can
tell you why I wrote that song, how we recorded it,
who the producer was, you know, all the experiences of that.
So we thought, you know, nobody knows about most importantly,

(08:44):
how I felt about recording those albums, why I wrote
those songs. So the Music Diaries is really about my
emotions and what was happening at that time. It's very
interesting in the earlier part of you know, the episodes
is because I'm talking about my home life again and
about my family life, and about as much as I

(09:04):
love them, I came from a chaotic, crazy family. We
all do we all, you know, you pick your family.
I love my family and we got it together in
the end. So there's a positive story. But how I felt,
you know, to be a recording artist, to be traveling,
kind of have a dominant manager, and the perils of
that being the celebrity and people knew, people in my

(09:28):
space and everybody loves me and trying to celebrate that,
but also going home and having dysfunction there still having
an alcoholic mother or family and having to be you know,
affected by that. You know, there wasn't always just come
home and there's joy. It was a crazy so, you know,
a lot of times being in the studio that was

(09:50):
my escape. I related to those songs just like my
fans did, who were maybe you know, just coming out
or had that secret or even the you know, sixteen, seventeen,
thirteen twelve. All of it is awkward, isn't it for everyone? Yes, first, heartbreak,
all of it. And I've found so many people related
to those earlier songs like could have been And I

(10:14):
did too, because for some reason, even though it wasn't
a love song for me, I was thinking about how
different my life would have been even if I had,
you know, a different parent structure. Again, love my parents,
but I was the parent at the time, and that
affects your life a little bit. So it's an interesting
journey that I'm willing to share that has made me

(10:36):
the person that I am now and the songwriter that
I am now in a great place now, but you know,
a songwriter, we still tell people's stories, so that's where,
you know. I love that I have this connection with
my fans. I love listening to them. I love hearing
what's going on in their life and how much we
do have in common and how much we're surviving and

(10:56):
becoming the people that we want to be. Yea. So
it is relatable. You know, so many people listening can
relate to, especially the family dynamic you grew up and
you started at such a very young age here in
southern California. How did this happen? Like where, like where
were you born? How how did little Tiffany think, now what,
this is what I want to do? This is I'm

(11:18):
going to be a pop star. I was born in
Norwalk and my mom and dad had split up by
the time I was like two, so I lived with
my grandparents and my mom was just in the grocery store.
She was a seamstress but working at an accountant office,
just you know, just trying to be a single mom
and get through um. And someone at the grocery store said, oh,

(11:40):
this little girl so pretty. But I was already singing.
I was already huming and doing and I was not shy.
And my mom was approached to like do some photo
shoots some like you know back then they had a
catalog work, but you made a little money. And she
was a little reluctant, but she loved fashion. My mother
was always about fashion and lamber in Hollywood and you know,

(12:02):
starlets in Vegas. So she thought, Okay, this sounds like fun,
and I liked it. So we started doing pageant work.
And that's when, you know, my whole family made a joke.
She was not shy on stage because I would just
work it. I loved being around the kids. I loved
the fashion of it, and eventually I started doing dancing

(12:23):
and that led to me, you know, practicing more about music.
But I was always singing around the house. No one
ever took me serious because they didn't know anything about
the music industry, so they couldn't help me. And it
wasn't until my stepfather came into my mom's life. They
got married. We moved to Norwalk, California, a little further

(12:44):
from my grandparents on Ibeck Street, where my parents made
friends with musicians across the street and they had a
daughter who was my best friend. So they were always
having parties and singalongs and barbecues, and they were going
on tour and they played in Vegas. My dad invested
in a record for them because again they became a

(13:06):
great you know, all friends and they were having a
go away on tour party. Of course, they had their
kids up there who do play piano and sing. My
girlfriend Tracy is still my friend today. And someone asked
me to get up and sing. I think it was
my dad. He said, well, Tippany likes to sing, you know,
get on up. There, and I thought okay, and I

(13:27):
got up there and sang, and the whole room just went,
that's weird. She sounds like she's thirty and she's little.
And even my you know, even Porscha and Danny stone
Street hadn't heard me sing. So they were like, Okay,
we're going on tour, but let's talk about that because
you need to do something with that, Dan. And that's

(13:47):
when my stepfather said, do you really want to do something?
I said, well, yeah, I'd love to sing. And I
had already been in my bedroom back then, like pretending
I was on stage. I had found country music, which
I still of of course my Loretta Lynn and Tammy
why need Emmy Lou Harris, But I'd found TV Nicks
by that time. So I was in my room at

(14:08):
you know, ten eleven, rocking out, hoping that I would
be the female lead singer to a rock band what
I vision for myself. But that was the beginning, and
that's how it started, and it started organically, word of mouth,
people connecting the dots. You know, I'm still a big
fan of that. You know, I think a lot of
people in society and I can say in pop culture

(14:31):
it's getting better. But in the early eighties, you know,
when you were signed to a label, there's only that
ten spaces on the chart that matters, so you were
always an individual, you know, competing and so they kind
of kept you apart a little bit. That was your competition.
But now I think it's so cool that a lot
of artists can collaborate. They can go, hey, you need

(14:53):
to like know my friend over there, and want nothing
out of it, just to connect and see somebody else succeed.
And I think that's kind of what our gift is about,
is bringing all this talent to the world and you know,
and doing projects with friends. So I got lucky that
everybody was so willing to help in my early stage
of the career to make it happen. And people just

(15:15):
kept connecting the dots from my dad until we reached
George Tobin, who signed me the MCA, and then we
abandoned country music because he knew nothing about it. But again,
for me, at that time, you know, I really wanted
to do more. Um I would say it probably it
probably alternative rock at this point is what it would

(15:36):
be called. I heard myself doing that at that time
because I was so influenced with like Heart led Zeppelin,
you know, of course stevehe Nicks and then and then
that country sounds. So it was a mishmash of like
kind of urban rock, a little bit you know, Americana,
all of it. Yeah, I can hear that said I did.
I think we're love now. I definitely hear that influence

(15:58):
all those artishy names in your voice and the way
you perform. What do you think about? What was it
about that demo tape? And I love that we can
say tape demo tape that you created that George Tobin,
you know what made him want to sign you because
of that tape? It wasn't it was my live singing.
And that's what I stand on. How today, you know,

(16:20):
as we've gotten and again I say this with so
much respect to all entertainers and to all different genres
of music, because I love all of it. But you know,
you have your singers, and you have your your performers,
and you just have your semi vocalists. You know, it
takes all of it. But for me, it was always
been about the live quality that I really can sing

(16:41):
live that I've throughout the years homed in even more
with my voice and more comfortable. But the actual record
wasn't getting any attention. You know, our demo tape was
like ramp, and it was inviting them into the studio
setting that kind of elite experience. Come have an intimate evening,

(17:02):
come and hear her sing. We'll have some cocktails and
she's singing live. This is not going through a board.
We're not. You know, they didn't have like pro tools
back then, but you know, this is it. What you're
hearing is what you're getting. That worked for me. Then
I had I think like five different labels wanting to
sign me. There was a battle going on, and that's

(17:23):
always worked for me. Again. You know, that's why the
shadow shows are so important, because they are live. We've
changed him this year to be a little bit more
I don't want to say the word fun, because they've
always been fun, but we're hamming up a little bit
more of the retro this year. We've extended some stuff
and it's a UV experience and I think I've shown

(17:44):
so much about my commitment to being a true musician.
People that I'm working with now, and you know, and
I think I've kind of landed a little bit a
good platform in the rock community, my friends out there
who get it, who are supporting me, Tracy Guns, you know,
people like that. So there's some validation which has taken
me forever to get here, but I love that. So

(18:06):
now I can kind of live both worlds a little bit.
And this tour is going to do that. We're gonna
come out solid rock and you know, the Shadows tour
with a full rock band that're gonna rock your face
off literally, But then you know, the halfway through the show,
we're going to turn it onto blacklight and we're gonna
do some retro stuff and just be in the moment
and have fun and celebrate thirty years of my career,

(18:28):
thirty years and more of being in the music industry
and loving it and spending time with my fans and
being able to still do this. You know, how can
we find a city near us that you're going to
be performing at? You are you putting all your days
just on her website? Do people have websites anymore? Yes?
I do. I'm always changing it too, so you know,

(18:53):
I have these whole concepts. Definitely, I'm my team tip.
I'm always like and today we're doing They're like, oh, God,
what's your goodness too? Now? But that's you know, you
gotta do it, you gotta do it. I love it.
I love adventure. Tiffany Tunes dot Com has all things
tipp World and of course that sent you to everything
my Patreon, all the different experiences, lets food, radical reds,
a fashion business, business, all the different things I have

(19:16):
going on. So and they're going to get better. You know.
I am working with different people now, partnering. People are
taking me serious. But you got to do the work.
I'm a big fan of that. And I could have
came out and just threw a bunch of money at
it or partnered up with people and not learn the
business side. And I think because they didn't learn the
business side in the music industry when I was young,

(19:40):
and I had to catch up when I was in
my early twenties. Everything I do now, I go, I
want to know the business side first, and I want
to work that side, and then the creative will be able.
That'll be the foundation and now we can have some fun.
You know, it's solid. So and I think you do
and all and everything you do need to know how

(20:00):
to sustain it. You need to know, you know all
the good, the good, the bad, the ugly, the comments,
the adjusting. Like when I did the Music Diaries, I
knew as soon as I put it up there we
didn't have all the lighting right yet, we didn't have
all the mics right yet. But it was time to
go the first of the year. It's based on the
twelve albums, which I now I have to do a
twelve album, so I've committed myself for that. But you know,

(20:24):
I wanted to do it, but it was like, let's
just do it. And as soon as the comments came on,
people were like, I can't see you, I can't hear you.
I can't I'm like, hold on, hold your role with
yet there everyone's period. So now, yeah, we're getting there.
But I'm sure you guys know as you you do things,
oh my god, you know, and I admire you so

(20:45):
much because you're always out there doing something. Lance of
course you know, I love you and I've got a
brag on you, and Michael, of course you're so wonderful
and supporting that I enjoy all your Instagram stuff. But
you know, I think, yeah, you guys are perfect example
of how taking you know your career as a musician
and making it work for you in a lifelong career

(21:09):
and supporting adventures and fun that you want to do
and other people in your life and making it work
for you. Yeah. I just love being creative and I'm
happy to be in this industry where you just get
to create art all over the place and see what sticks,
see what doesn't. I mean majority of the stuff that
we come up with doesn't work. But you know what,
it's fun just the same. Yeah, I mean that's what

(21:31):
it is. And Michael, of course I want to see
if we could do a pairing on a jacket. I mean,
I would be an honor. So I'm not a builder,
you know, I'm just you know, I'm just painting, you know.
But I am having fun and I'm you know, working
with a lot of great other artists and now celebrities
because I do Children's Miracle Network. So we're going to

(21:53):
be doing a line of jackets where I pair with
celebrities for Children's Miracle Network and auction them because we've
got to raise money for our Kido's out there. That's
something that's near and dear to my heart and like
that for ten years and we're not stopping, and it's
getting more tough and the you know, the thing that
I am excited about is seeing these families and these

(22:14):
children get better medical care, better diagnosis, all of it.
And they are having some success stories where you know,
of course the longevity is there for their lifespan, but
that comes with a whole other part of problems. You know,
your wheelchairs that need to be refitted, and cars that

(22:35):
need new wheelchair you know, ramps and all of that.
There's always something for the need of these families. So
we're gonna keep it going. So I would love to
pair with a jacket with you for our cause. And
thank you so much you guys for catching up. And
I am coming to the house if you don't mind,
and I'm bringing all your presents that I store the

(22:57):
So I'm gonna have to take this suitcase because I'm
always thinking of my friends and I go, oh, this
would be funny. Oh they would like that. And I do.
I have this whole closet stuff that never makes it
to your house. But I will will be coming with you.
I'm gonna bombard you. When do you think, like, what
is she doing? This crazy woman a need that's the

(23:17):
only gift we need. Oh well, I love you guys,
So let's go to uh all right, So you know
this is a teen idol show. You were the ultimate

(23:39):
teen idol. How did you handle that at such a
young age? Was it easy for you? Did your family help?
Did your did you surround yourself with friends? What was
that dynamic? Oh? Well, I mean my family was helping
as much as they could at the time, because again
they didn't know anything about the business and they have
their own things going on. So I really he kind

(24:00):
of learned by hands on. I learned from being around
other people in the industry, and I think that was
again good and bad both. I don't think I learned
any bad habits, but it was hands on. I mean
I was kind of thrown into it. So I learned
to be an adult very quickly. Again, at my home,

(24:21):
I was probably already in that role, So it wasn't
hard for me to go, oh okay, long hours when
I say, by myself in a room, you know, everybody
else is working on something or playing an instrument or
writing the songs, and I just kind of hung out
and I would do my school work or take naps,
or sit in the vocal booth and write poetry. Myself,

(24:44):
but I was like a sponge. I was taking it
all in from the creative to the business side. Two
meeting was with my label. The one thing I can
say about George Tobin where I think that he did
me justice was taking me to all of those boring
meetings that at you know again fourteen and fifteen. I'm like,

(25:04):
why am I here? You know, they're all having dinner
and they're talking about other artists. But I got to
see the politics of our industry and how you barter
things and how you you know, go, well, you know
you have such and such, but I want you to
spend this record, so I'm going to give you this.
It is a lot of that and working together. So

(25:26):
eventually that did you know so much? For me as
a co manager now and knowing you know, things have changed,
but throughout my career I knew why, psychology wise, why
people were saying or doing things to me in the
business realm, and what they needed from me. So it
made me less frustrated as an artist. I was like, no, okay,

(25:48):
bottom line, this is what they need from me. Now,
how do I work that? As me? As an artist?
So adult, do you feel like you missed a childhood
or do you feel like you had some kind of
a child Oh, I feel like I had some kind
of a childhood. I do. I don't know, you know, again,
if the music hadn't been in my life, I don't
know what my life would be. Because of my home life.

(26:12):
I think that, you know, I probably would have married
very young. I probably would have stayed married and had children.
And I wasn't great at education. I didn't have any
real fire behind me for that. So kids and family
has always been you know, first, really and so important
that that's probably what would have happened to me. I
probably would have never maybe even used my talent, so

(26:34):
it kind of rescued me and it was my path.
So I did have a childhood. I think, you know,
I wish I would have developed more bonds with people
that I was on the road with when I was younger,
you know, and smelling the roses a little bit, because
I worked so much. I mean, when I wasn't on

(26:55):
the road in America, I then took off to Asia.
Then I want to but I did that for three
years straight. I don't think I saw my family, and
when I did, I was, you know, so tired and
half asleep, So that kind of affected me a little bit.
But you know, I learned how to to to work
to be a soldier as well. You know, now I

(27:17):
try to do seasons balance. It doesn't have to be Yeah, well,
I mean obviously huge in America. What countries out there
were you just surprised? Like, oh my gosh, like I
am huge and Portugal, Like what countries did you always
go to? Like oh my goodness, the fans are incredible here. Yeah,

(27:38):
all of the countries, I mean they really. I think
Southeast Asia was great for me, has always been great
for me. The fashion there, the food, you know, all
of it. It's made me the foodie that I am.
That's really what Let's Food is about. It's my take
on international foods and how I've traveled and been influenced

(27:58):
by different community uies and different um you know, nationalities
and their take on the love of food that they
have and how it brings people together. So, you know,
for me, it was landing in the UK. I remember
the first time I landed in the UK and people
knew I loved like all of pizza and they had
the Jean jackets on and I was like, oh, there's

(28:20):
like many versions of me, but they're with a different accent.
I love it. And then that you about me, and
that was something that I I embraced but didn't expect,
like how much they would know about me, you know,
my favorite things, my favorite songs, my favorite bands. Although
you always did those bot magazine questionnaires and gave all

(28:42):
that information out, it's different when you go to a
different country and you know, and they do know so
much about you, and they and they're bonding with you
and they want to know more about you know, what
your life is. So that played a big role on
me as a as a young adolescent. It also made
me feel like we're all connected. You know that the
countries aren't so different. They are with their unique flare,

(29:06):
but you know that kids in you know, the UK
or Taiwan or you know anywhere, frads or feeling the
same way I am. Um. I didn't really have that,
you know, I wasn't dating too much. Of course I
ended up going on the road and then dating John
at the night, but I didn't have like regular boyfriends
or anything. But you know, I did still have that

(29:28):
adolescence of feeling awkward or not knowing my place and
then you know, like I said, having that home life
that might not be so supportive. So there was a
lot of other things we bonded on um and I found,
you know, a lot in common with a lot of
people all over the world. Did you say your favorite
pizzas all of pizza? Yes, girl, that would be my

(29:51):
least favorite thing of all. Oh gosh, I can't stand up. Yeah,
I've never even heard of just an all of pizza.
There's alive them supremes. But you can do multi, you
can do different. College to be careful, just give yeah,
good to go. Yeah. Well, if you want to add yeah,

(30:11):
that was my thing. I mean everybody knows about my
my we rock Dominoes on my tours. That's that was
my jam and it was Yeah, it was olive and
halapeno and if you wanted to get fancy, we put
pepperoni those together. Yeah. I like Dominoes. Yeah, we're a
Domino's family, especially because they changed their recipe a few

(30:34):
years ago and it's so much better. But we always
get pepperoni and halopeno. That's kind of our go to
our Yeah, okay, there you my own olive. I'll split
to the side, have my little bag of olive. Well,
I love olive so much that it's funny because people
have bought me olive, like for presents and or like

(30:58):
you know, when they travel like that was basically Italy.
They buy me all of bring it, which is very
j and I love it um but you know, or
even even in high school, people would like put birthday
gifts together and they'd always buy the account of all
of thes because I liked all of them. That's so
funny because it's yeah, especially being a teen idol. You know,
you say one thing, like you like something, you're going

(31:19):
to get so much of it. I remember, yeah, you
know I love doctor SEUs, so oh my goodness, I
have so much Doctor SEUs stuff. I think I might
have said I liked the beanie baby. Oh you get
five thousand about it, and you're kind of like stuck
with that the rest of your life. Like, well, I've
kind of outgrown ren and stimpy. I like Lamborghinis doesn't
catch on, you know, Porscha, you know the good stuff.

(31:43):
But now you're stuck with alives the rest of your life.
Yeah again, now for my cooking club, bring it on.
I love it, but yeah, I mean, you know, and
they're getting quite unique as as they're pickling and putting
them in different different experiences. A lot of the olives
with garlic I love, so yes, I will be bringing

(32:04):
my own olives, but that was my jam as pizza.
And I think you know again, the Jean Jackets. They've
stayed around watching people being jackets and copying me on that,
and now they're doing it again because that's really what
the movie shadows experience. I'm painting the jackets and recreating
and I am talking to you know, maybe taking that

(32:25):
to a real business and who else would be better
to do? I mean exactly, really your originator? Are you
kidding me? I am so yeah, Yes, we're gonna do
it again. Peeps. Yeah, it's gonna be fun. But I
mean all of those things are fun for me. I
just like I said, I'm renovating my home, so downstairs,

(32:45):
cleaning up all the stuff I've had in storage to
make it the studio, vocal booth and piles and boxes,
all you know of old school magazines that I was in,
old school slides, all the photographer that I've kept over
the year, and just having a really good chuckle probably
about last week of finding all these things and the

(33:07):
poses and the things that I said. You know, there's
something about pop culture that's just unique. And I love
that I'm representing it now again full force in the show,
and that it really is taking on more of my
life from the pop up things that I'm doing with
the food, like the new cookbook, which is going to

(33:28):
be embracing pop culture. So a little week that can
hint after school special foods and how we can judge
those up and make them valid foods. But all the
flavor that we loved, as you know, just casual foods,
especially foods. Gotta rock my cheese it somehow. Guys, what's

(34:04):
great about this young generation is they can find music everywhere, right,
and your music is still so fresh and gen Z's
minds right because they know you. You're a legend. What
do you What do you think when people call you
a legend? And as a teenager, do you ever think
that you would get to that legendary status? No? I never.

(34:25):
I I don't even think about myself that way, which
is probably something that I sometimes need to like not
put you know, a little chip on my shoulder. But
you know, I've accomplished a lot and I'm always proud
and I'm always grateful, but I think sometimes you can

(34:45):
start always thinking about what's next, what's next, what's next,
and sometimes you do have to sit back and go, ah,
but I did make it, you know. So it's when
I do things like go through scrapbooks or something I
really do, my heart kind of sinks, but in a
good way to say, you know, what a lucky person

(35:06):
I am that you know this, this girl from Norwalk,
California was able to make it. I am a pop icon.
You know, people all around the world know who I am.
Still continue to do this, I can still do my
music and just a name like your Madonna, You're Elvis. Yeah,

(35:30):
I mean it's a blessing. I'm really it's fantastic. And
now what to do with that in because it's not over?
So you know, you're like, well, where do we do next?
I mean, having that great name, but then you know,
how do you make that still legendary throughout your entire life?
And um, you know not kind of because I'm obviously

(35:51):
there's always this stigma of you know, the old starlet
or the where they now kind of thing, and it's
hard to keep with that type of thing for sure,
even if you're on aime, you know what you've done today.
I just won fifteen you know awards. Okay, great, where
are you going to be in ten years from now?

(36:11):
It's like that's that's what they ask you. So that
was great last night great, but today it's like, uh
oh please. So it's like that and once you know
that again, you just have to have that balance. I'm determined,
I think for myself is to turn my career and
my success and this platform that I've been given to

(36:34):
other things, like I said, and to be known as
somebody who is a foodie and was successful in that
and fashion and successful. All the things that I loved
did turn into something that you know, were sustainable on
different facets and successful. So that's the goal now. But again,
I couldn't have that if it wasn't for I think
we're low now in the beginning and all the things

(36:56):
that came to be for us. That song was just
you know, like when you first made that song, did
you just know immediately it was gonna be a hit?
I did it because I didn't want to record that.
Actually I was, you know, I want to do more
rock stuff. So I think Rolono came in and it

(37:17):
was the original. They played me Chommy James and the
shan Del's version, which I don't know if I had
heard before. If I did, I didn't really you know,
stand out with me and it was all children behy
and I was like, oh, wow, where are we going
with it? This is not And it got worse because
when I came the next day the track was all

(37:38):
and I'm like, this is a dance song. I didn't, well,
I want to be Cheryl Crowe, like, you know, what
is happening. So I was kind of bummed, But of
course I took it home and was learning the song
to go back into the studio the next day, playing
it for my friends in my bedroom and they started

(37:58):
dancing and jumping around and I think they were even
doing the moves, you know, And I thought, well, it
makes people happy and they like h So that was it,
you know, my manager and producer at the time. I
really wasn't crazy about singing the song, but I enjoyed
singing the song probably by the end of the day,

(38:19):
because it does have that infectious feeling. I don't know
why it makes you happy, It just there's something about it.
So I'm very lucky on that aspect. It is, and
it's a song that has really just like stood the
test of time, like it's a song like they came
out now. I think people were so singable. It's like
you know, you know a hit when you hear it

(38:40):
so much at karaoke, right, if that's the song everyone
was singing. I hear that song so much. Oh. I mean,
I remember when I was in high school just always
like in my car with our like CD mix CDs
and like all of my friends would have I think
we're alone now on like their mixes. I just remember,
like just distinctly, just like singing in the car to
that song with my sister over and over and over.

(39:02):
But my favorite was could have been was probably my
favorite from that You love And then you did a
song years later, maybe with Red Man. It was from
your album probably released right like two thousand and five, Um,
wake Up, Wake Up. It was Bone Thugs and Harmony.

(39:24):
Yeah I'm not sleeping. So that was the song that
I wrote. I love that, you know again, just I
was very involved at that time in my life. I
thought I was going to be opening up a domestic
violence shelter, which is something that I've always wanted to
do and working with again people with mental health and
just you know, I come from Norwalk. I mean that's

(39:46):
a lot of my friends didn't have the things that
I had, and their lives took a different way, and
a lot of my girlfriends got themselves in really bad situations.
So you know, I learned a lot about that and
how much there was a need for that. So that's
what was happening during the time, and that's what I'm
not sleeping was about, was about those experiences that I

(40:06):
had heard, and which was really great because we did
partner with the domestic violence i think helpline and be
able to raise some money for them. And but yeah,
that's Crazy Bone on that rap. Okay, it's like spooky scary.
He played the bad dude in there, you know, the
bad boyfriend or you know, the bad guy. But he

(40:27):
did a great job. And I mean all of that's
when I talk about pairings, you know, and being able
to collaborate with people. People were like Tiffany and crazy
Bones and Bones and what. But you know that song
came out of it. It's great. Um. Well, speaking more
of teen Idols a few weeks ago. We had Debbie
Gibson on the show, and of course we had to

(40:49):
you know, talk about the you know, the alleged feuds
back in the day, which was completely sensensialized, you know
by the media. Um and you know, we we went
into depth with her and she just never really understood
why the media was the so hell bent on like
pitting YouTube you know girls. At the time, she was
Backstreet and you were in Yeah, I kind of, I
mean the same, you know, Brittany Christina. They just love

(41:10):
to put to you know, you know, like successful similar
artists against each other. So what was your whole mindset
back in the day when all of that was happening.
You know, I didn't really give it much attention, to
be honest with you, I think for me, and I've
talked to them about it, you know, I got a
little annoyed sometimes when you know you're doing your interviews

(41:33):
and it's hard enough. Literally, yeah, well that was you
had a number one single, But where do you see
yourself in ten years? And I'm like, I don't know,
I'm sixteen. I'm just happy to be doing that. Would
be on a plane going I think they tell me
Argentina I'm not too sure, like there's a lot going on,
you know, but it got it would get heavy at times. Yeah,

(41:55):
and then they would start to make me try to
validate Debbie as well, and I'm like, well, hold and
I can only be responsible for myself. Let'll him tell
you what dev thinks. And I haven't even had a
conversation with this girl. In passing, we're like on the
red carpet to throw us together. We do photos and
then we're like, oh did you Oh okay, call you later,
oh bye, And that's it. And that was our relationship

(42:17):
for many, many years. Although we had mutual friends and
of course projects were so it wasn't until Mega Python
Versus Gamehood stilly sci fi movie that we were sucking
trailers in one location as you know, pop stars, as
growing up together as you know, friends but not really

(42:39):
knowing each other but being friendly that we could say
now we got to know each other. It took that
little billy movie for us to be in the same
to really talk as people and go, oh, okay, you know,
we're friends, like I know you now you know and
we are so different, but that's that's the good thing.
And now we've learned and I think are fans have

(43:01):
learned that they don't have to pick one or the other.
It's not insulting to us. We're a complete package together
and we're happy to be that way ortivate each other's friends.
But I think that's what the industry has to do.
It's a good read. Again, there's that what do they
need from you? Well, I mean it's a praise and rejection.

(43:23):
The way that the industry works, or the way popularity works,
is we praise them to get them to that point,
and then that's kind of boring. So now let's find
something wrong with him. Yes, and if you can have
two different people that you have bartering back and forth
and there's this feud, and they said, I just think
now it's it's smart. Some celebrities have gotten wind of
it and they kind of like play into it and

(43:44):
make it work for them. Yeah, I mean that's true.
You know again, I'm good read. It's fun. Well, that's
why I was so excited to start for us the
tips because it's bringing all the fandoms together. Where once
everyone was so separated and you had to have a team.
This is finally a place where everyone can go learn
about those artists that maybe weren't allowed to like at

(44:04):
the time and really get to know them and to create,
you know, create more fans on the show and everyone
come together. It's time. No, yeah, I mean all the
old school stories that you don't I mean that's the
thing with like again, you know, the album diaries. I
don't get to talk about how I felt really or
you know, the experience, or who screamed at me or

(44:24):
what they may have said that day that really made
me feel. You know again, I might be Tiffany, but
that made me feel really human and really you know,
unneeded or rejected or whatever it is. And that does
go into your music. You know, it should go into
your writings. For me, I've you know, I think again
my whole experience as a team with having my family

(44:48):
being unbalanced, I learned to have to cut that off.
So you know, it's helped me again, I can do that.
I can go from whatever is chaotic here to write
to stage two. I'm present, this is what we're doing.
It's hard, though, you know, I've learned to do that
more and more. But you have to because again, that
can come on to you and then you're not great

(45:10):
in your shows and all that, and yeah, there's been
times even in my life lately that it started to
affect me and then I had to take a break
and pop up and get it back together. But you know,
it's all this wonderful ride that I think people want
to see now, like like your show, they want to
know more behind the scenes, what I was thinking, what

(45:30):
was making me tick that you don't get to say
in regular interviews. And you know, again, it's I'm at
a good point now that I really can start to
talk about a lot of the pop culture stuff and
have fun with that. There was a time in my
career I think I had to man the ship and
not maybe be so tiffany because I was going to

(45:51):
get stuck there and that was it, ye like, and
I had to like go, yeah, I know that, but
you know, we're gonna have to push forward and talk
about what I'm doing now. I know they don't want that,
but if I don't, I'll never get this opportunity. So
I have to break down these walls and then we
can go back and all hug it out, okay, And
that's kind of what we're doing now. So it feels

(46:12):
really great. I feel really liberated to be at this spot,
to be able to like share all of these things
with my fans and you know, and to be able
to talk about old school and you know, and then
to go and take the stage with new stuff and
for everybody to go, oh, I get it. She's still
doing it, you know. And that's our girl. So it's
you know, and I have to say thank you to

(46:34):
all of my team for doing that for the you know,
keep continuing in the fight, because you know, you're always
breaking walls down as an artist, I feel, especially if
you want to do something new. Um, Okay, let's go

(47:02):
back to the love story of you and Jonathan Knight.
I need to know. I want to know how you met.
Was it love at first sight? Um? I need to
know the whole teal on this, because I don't think
I've ever asked you how y'all met. I don't think
while we met on the tour. So what happened was

(47:23):
my agent had just signed the New Kids on the Block, okay,
and I was doing a show at Westbury, um and uh,
well let's see that's long a long island. And um,
I was backstage with my friend Sanita. We were probably
eating pizza and these five guys walked in. Jerry Aide

(47:43):
said he was going to bring you know, five guys.
They're a new band and he really liked me to
see them. He of course did it on a weekend
that my manager wasn't there, so that was far and
put these five guys in front of me, and of
course it was like, you know, we're two young girls
going quete cute cute, yes, yes, but of course the

(48:03):
music was right on point and they had the you know,
the choreography, all of it. It was perfect. And I
know my audience. I knew most of my audience would
have young girls out there, so yeah, this is a
no brainer. Literally, I said, well, you guys have your
show with you, why don't you go on tonight? And

(48:25):
of course my agent was thrilled. Yeah you know, and
everybody's like what okay. So that was my call, my
first business call, to put the new Kids on the
Block on stage, and they did. And that's the one
thing I loved about them. Nobody, you know, coming from
country and you know Nashville, you want to sing, you
go sang, you know, it's like you shine now, and
I come from that, and they rose to that occasion.

(48:47):
It wasn't oh well we don't have our outfits with us,
or oh no, it's like okay, great, we'll stand up
here and tell you want us. And I love that.
And that's when I got a phone call. The next
day though, my manager called me and went, you don't
ever do those things. Oh so he was bad that
you put them on. I got so much trouble because
he didn't have a piece of them. That's why he probably,

(49:10):
But I also do think you know, and it made sense.
You cannot compete with a boy band, especially when your
demographic is most look it is it's Harry because I
remember when you know, Brittany joined us on our first
tour and she was just coming out with baby one
more time. So I mean people, some of the fans
you were from Mickey Mouse Club obviously, but you know,

(49:31):
she was our sister. So she came out on tour
with us. The first half of the tour was so
dark for her because yes, those teen girls were attacking her.
She would come off stage crying and just like, oh
they hate me. Then you know, halfway through the tour though,
it just turned everyone just started loving her. Yeah them,

(49:55):
then they will be once they find that you're not
a threat, right then they then they will connect with you.
And that's why when we did the Reconnection Tour, the
Reunited Tour in twenty nineteen, it was great because I
could actually be around those girls and they didn't want
to kill me. I was like, oh, yeah, we are
aces and kids and things that like my girls, you know,

(50:17):
So it's it's a full circle. But before you know,
I mean, I was just on the road with them,
and even the first tour I saw it turning a
little bit because of course I was having troubles with
my manager and we weren't releasing as much music, so
I was touring off all the old music, so it
wasn't a great time for me. By around the second tour,

(50:39):
there was a lot of transition for me as an
artist behind the scenes. And then the new kids, of
course were coming up with their success, so you know,
that's a lot of things that were happening. So the
plates were spinning. But I do think that my manager
saw it's going to be a hard one now. You know.
Now you've got like all these girls are gonna want
a piece of these guys, and you're what are you

(50:59):
gonna do about on it, and then of course dating
one made more complication to that, and John and I
were backstage hanging out all the time. Of course, I
love each and every new kid. They're all so unique.
Joe was, I don't he's not so much different with
our age, but he was so tiny that we always
treated him a kid, which was not fair. And and

(51:22):
Donnie was, you know, all over his Donnie doing his thing.
Jordan was always very quiet, and Danny probably was at
the gym. Nothing's changed. Yeah, So John really had a
hard time with all the people in his space. He's
really not that person. Yeah, he didn't really like it,

(51:43):
so he would always be the quiet ones didn't. And
I remember us sitting in a sound check and that
was really my like my first time really talking to him,
and he was asking me, you really like this? So
you like this? Like you you do okay with this?
And I was like, yeah, you do. He's like, there's
a lot of people in my space and like it's

(52:04):
so he was forming that already, and we just had
really good conversations. In the beginning. It was just hanging out.
He was always kind of like sitting there and I'm
pretty quiet, although I'm vibrant. When I'm not being Tiffany,
I'm actually a pretty quiet person. I kind of I

(52:24):
kind of just sit back and watch others. And that
worked for us. And that was it. We started. We
loved dogs, we loved tropical fish. It started over, you know,
simple things like that, just kid blings. And then we
spent more time together, and you know, I think we
became a boyfriend and girlfriend, but I think that really
more than anything, we had that friendship and and I

(52:45):
still treasured that friendship very much, you know, and that
was it was a sweet thing because he wasn't, you know,
pressuring me to do things that normal guys were in
the limited time time that I had time to go home.
Any of my high school friends that I wasn't even dating,
but they were guys in my life. Yeah, they wanted

(53:07):
something else from me, and there was all that kind
of pressure, and of course I didn't want to fall
into that or get pregnant or you know, or even
any of that. You know, my home life again, Norwalk,
California is just simple people, So there was all kinds
of mess to get into if you wanted to. But
I was already on my way to work, in my
career and being around great people. So it was really

(53:29):
the simplicity of our friendship. See back in the day,
we you know, I don't know if kids do it
this day, but in order to establish your boyfriend girlfriend relationship,
one of you had to say, will you go with me?
I think that was the Mississippi no no that at
everywhere will you go? So I could be wrong, but

(53:50):
I think I, you know, I kind of remember that
when I really knew we were kind of like boyfriend
and girlfriend is when John started to take my hand
in front of people, because he knew that that was
going to piss a lot of girls off. But I
think he got tired of it a little bit. You know,
even in his own life he had to run and
hide and like it was like you couldn't get off

(54:12):
the bus because it's crazy. So by that time he
was like, yeah, well I'm just doing this, you know,
come with me to think, you know, And I was like, oh,
you're showing people were together, okay, you know, but yeah,
it was great. I mean that's you know, it was short,
but I think we really only were dating really officially,
maybe a year, because by the second tour I was

(54:33):
going off and getting off the road and they were
at the height. I mean, that was it. And I
definitely I've always had the mentality just seeing my own
bandmates and an old soul and probably you know, seeing
the rock and roll stories. Is it's very hard for
you know, especially guys, I think, and I don't honestly

(54:54):
just guys, but when you're at the height of your
career and you're young, it's very hard to become it
to one person. Of course, as you're going to turn
the world, Yeah, it's always going to take like back burner. Yeah,
I think I felt like for me, you know, although
I trusted John, I just was like, come on, you know,
I mean really, there's all these girls everywhere, so you know,
I mean I get it. I'm not going to let

(55:16):
it ever hurt our friendship. And I was, you know,
and we're not going to get married right now. We're
both young. Um, although you know, I think that you know,
there was just something so special about that, having that
open communication and not we didn't really string it out
where it got heavy. You know. Um, out of everything
you've experienced in your career, what's that moment that you

(55:39):
look back at and uh, and you just kind of
replay in your head, like, wow, that was that was
just really cool? Oh uh well, probably seeing Michael Jackson
and having him, you know, the week that I knocked
bad off of the number one, Oh you were to

(56:00):
do it talk about heavy? I was like, I think
he's gonna like me, going to be great, what's gonna happen?
He so generous, He held up the whole line for me,
and you know, he was engaging and it didn't care.
It wasn't like, oh, here's the little girl that knocked

(56:21):
me off a bad you know, m He was more,
are you having a good time and you know, congratulations
and you know, let's take a picture, and I just
it was leaving your body moment where you know. And
again it also showed me, I have to say about
that appreciation of a major pop star embracing me and

(56:45):
saying that it's okay that I knocked his number one off.
You know for my number one there, it wasn't competitive,
it wasn't ugly, and that's always made an impression on
me as an artist too, to be able to be
again cool with other artists. Oh okay, I released my single,
but yours went better? All right? You know. I mean,
it wasn't my time. Whatever, I'll see you, you know,

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next week we'll be hanging out, you know. I mean
it made a big impression on me. Yeah, it should
be that easy, all right. Here's a tip from a fan,
Cheryl thirteen. What advice do you have for a struggling songwriter? Well,
it changes every day. Now you know all of the
laws and the rules and all the publishing, but the

(57:29):
biggest thing is just to keep doing it, you know,
be open minded. I'm now and you know, I've been
in Nashville for many years now, I think more than
than la. I'm a Nashville in and I came to
Nashville as a songwriter and put the Tiffany hat to
the side. I wasn't doing an album and I just
wanted to engulf the community. And it was very hard

(57:53):
for me because of course, when you sit with people,
they go, so, what album were we doing? What were
we writing for? Where you going? And I'm like, no,
I'm just writing. And if you want to be a
part of that, then that's great. And I had to
find my people, so a community of writers would be great.
You can find them online. There's all kinds of different forums,
to be a part of people all over the world,

(58:14):
to have a community base as a songwriter, which I
highly suggest. And the more you do it, the more
that you listen to you know, different genres of music.
Being pliable as a songwriter. I have a handicap because
they don't play an instrument. But yet I have these
melodies that go through my brain that I'm like, no,

(58:34):
I know it works, I don't know how it just does.
And then I have to struggle to communicate that to
a fellow guitar player or pianist. And thank god I
have those people. If you can pick up an instrument,
if you don't play, start now. That would be the
one thing that I would have changed way back when.

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And I'm still gonna do it. I'm still gonna learn piano.
But you know, it takes discipline to practice. That helps
you as a songwriter, That helps you um communicate your ideas,
because I still do struggle with that, but you know,
the more that you can do it and then putting
yourself out there, there's all kinds of forums now, uh,
you know, the people are looking for songs, so you know,

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the world is your oyster. I really do think that
it's not the same platform as you've got to go
get the label, and then you've got to be you've
got to live in Nashville now, and you've got to
know that's still another way to do it. I have
friends moving to town next weekend and they're starting their
writing careers and they're going to do it old school Nashville,

(59:38):
and that's probably the longer road, but you know, that's
another way to do it. But you know, for now,
especially in pop music and current commercial music and TV
and film, you know, you can be doing it from
your from your room. Just got to do it and
be again aware of what Yeah, look at TikTok you

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and I mean. As a lyricist, I'm open for there's
a there's a place for every song. I really do
believe that. But you know, obviously, you know, as a lyricist,
I try to form ideas that aren't just the first thing.
Sometimes the first thing that comes to your mind and
off your lips is the best, but sometimes it's just
the structure. And then I live with a song, and

(01:00:20):
I live within a song, and I say, no, that's
you know, that's not a deep enough way to express that.
It'll come there's a cooler, deeper way to say that
that's not, you know, the norm, because the norm has
been said. I want to go to the next level
and sitting with your songs for a bit and really
demanding that of them. I think that's what I do

(01:00:42):
as a songwriter, so I always, you know, try to
challenge people with that. I want to do more songwriting camps.
We were just talking about it with Johnny Martin actually,
and I think there's a songwriting camp that had a
bunch of Carmen A Peace and all these all these
different rock guys, and that's what they do. They mentor
for songwriting, and I want to do more of that.
I know Deb does some song camps with herself and

(01:01:04):
all of her deb heads and stuff. And it's important
because there's so many people out there that, you know,
just want to learn how to write songs and be
a part of our community. Whether you're successful or not,
I don't think it matters as long as you're doing
something you love and there is a place and right now,
I can't say enough. The more I'm learning about the
buzz in the industry, and I just did something for

(01:01:26):
Amazon as an actress. But there's all these different TV
and film opportunities for song placement, and you know, especially
these young kids out there, they're cranking out some stuff.
I'm always watching and learning and speaking of movies. So
missus Morrise eighty nine would like to know what did
you think of the movie Ted using your song. I

(01:01:47):
loved it. I didn't know what's going to happen. I
thought it was funny. I was I think the first
time I saw it was with the band. Someone said, oh, yeah,
I haven't seen it yet, and I was like, no,
I haven't had a chance. And they put it on
and I was like the bears they grew alone. Now

(01:02:09):
all right, So now I have a nineteen eighty seven
interview from Best Hits. All right, what do you do
when you're not involved with music and not going to school?
What did you say in nineteen eighty seven eating all
of pizza nou shopping in the malls? Yeah, probably shopping.
It made me a mean shopoholic, as you know, and

(01:02:29):
I do not want right, I'm fine with it. Well,
in eighty seven you said I talk on the phone
most of the time when I am not going to school.
Oh well, yes, I was a normal teenager, but By
that time, I was talking on one of those brick phones.
You know those things that well you guys, but you
had to carry this brick around with you. Yeah. Man,

(01:02:51):
that's what I had on the car phone. I was
just talking to somebody about the car phone. Now that
was I thought I was the bomb when I got Oh, yeah,
my dad had you know, the one that came in
like the leather case, had a totally had the whole box. Yeah,
curly whatever, And I thought so cool. I would take
the car but yeah, I got I got a car phone.

(01:03:14):
You Yeah, Oh my gosh, Tiffany. It has been so
great catching up with you. I always love seeing you
and I cannot wait till you're back in LA and
you get to go squeeze some kettoes? Yeah? How can
everyone stay in touch with you out there? Tiffany Tunes
dot Com that's all things tiff World, my Instagram of course,

(01:03:34):
Tiffany Tunes and let's Food with Tiffany for the cooking aspect.
So Tiffany Tunes dot Com is really all things for me.
The new merch that is going to be happening, like
all the UV stuff and all the retro stuff. We're
gonna be coming out with the retro line as well,
so a little again we went back to the old school, um.

(01:03:55):
And then all the news stuff I've gotten going on
with Shadows, all the tour dates are there. You know
we're going to be doing another video and another couple
of months when we get on the road, and some
international travel too, taking it to other countries this year.
So keep up with me on and I get all
the things team tips, all the fans on Tiffy teams

(01:04:15):
dot com. All right, I can't wait for my Jeane
jacket yea, And please leave your fans with a message
right now. What do you want to tell your amazing
fans out there? Well, I of course I love you guys,
and I hope you're well, and I do I hope
you follow me on all my different socials that that
I have can be a part of my world, from
cooking to a let's end my friend, where we're learning

(01:04:37):
meditation and holistic medicine, Chinese medicine that's keeping me in
the game, where I share more about my experience and
weight loss and just all of it. Long COVID I've had,
so you know, all the different things that I'm learning
about myself and how to protect my health and immunity
and alternative ways. I mean, I live on the road,
so you got to keep it in the game. And

(01:05:00):
and then of course shadows. We've got lots planned. I mean,
the cool thing about releasing records is today is that
there's there's there's no um, there's no what do you
want to say? You know, there's no box you can do,
so you know, for me, I just want to keep
totally focused on this album and it's got so many

(01:05:23):
great songs that I want each song to have its time. Uh.
And we're gonna be doing better videos and better behind
the scenes content and possibly even a documentary about scenes.
You know, it'll be gritty, guys, because I want to
show the real stuff. That's what we want. And because
you live your authentic self. And thank you so much
for sharing all of your passions with the world, because

(01:05:47):
you're interested in so many things that we're all interested in.
And I can't wait to fix that strawberry cake for
you because it's oh my gosh, I know, see I'll
be cheating that day, but not so bad. It's not
bad sugar sugar free, it's good sugar free. I know.
I've been on a real, real, like clean, fastened step
for this tour, I can reset my immunity, so yeah,

(01:06:09):
I'll be ready for some like strawberry cake. Let's do it,
all right, we have it, We have a date, all right,
tiff It is so lovely seeing you and I cannot
wait to squeeze you very soon. Awesome babes. Alright, I
love you, love everybody. I love me some Tiffany, so
you know I love I always say eighty seven is

(01:06:31):
my favorite yea of all the decade of the eighties. Tiffany,
I think is the one that I just I just
remember the most. I don't know, she just really resonated
with you at such a young age. I think maybe
because my sister liked her, because like, Tiffany was like cool,
you know, she was like just a cool This girl

(01:06:52):
was cool. She was cool. Yeah, it's not cheesy about
this one, no, Like I want to be as rocker
as Tiffany, I know, and she in her voice and
her songs are just so good and it's still go
check out that one. Have you heard the one that
you did with um? Now I'm going to bone. What
are bone? Folks? And harmony guy? Something Bones, Crazy Bones Bones. Uh,
it's so good, I'm gonna listen to it. Yeah, yeah, awesome. Well, guys,

(01:07:14):
that one went a little long, so we're gonna end
the show right here because you don't want to hear
our voices anymore. Um, what do you look like you're
about to say something? You need something to say. No,
like you said, nobody wants to hear our voices. Okay,
my voice, that's better, all right, Tiffany, Thank you so
much for being on the show, and thank you so
much for listening. You can always review, subscribe, rate all

(01:07:37):
that kind of good stuff. Um. And also thanks for
listening to the other show that I do, this Last Soviet,
like yes, which is killing you. Yeah, it's like really
killing it with us. Um. So The Last Soviet is
my my scripted documentary podcast about uh Sarah and a cosmonaut.
It's a very fascinating story about a guy who got
stuck in space for three d days. Crazy it is,

(01:08:00):
but it's beautiful the way that they put the sound effects,
and it's just it's one of those that you want
to listen to at the gym, are going to sleep.
It kind of just rocks you. Yeah. The narrator's voice
is kind of annoying, but like once you get past that,
like the first few minutes, you'll get used to it. Wow. Wow,
well you have made it the number one documentary podcast
in the world and the number fourteen show in the world,

(01:08:21):
which is our com Yeah, so thank you for listening.
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