September 23, 2024 • 52 mins
Filling in for Lance this week is Kimmy Gibbler herself, Andrea Barber, and her guest, fellow Fuller House co-star Lisa Loeb!
Yes, Grammy Award-winning singer-songwriter Lisa Loeb was also a guest star on Fuller House! She joins Andrea to discuss her time on the show, including how she got the role, what it was like behind the scenes during the show's finale, the actor who helped her son with a lost tooth on set, and why their kids are sometimes embarrassed by them.
Lisa also shares the inspiration behind her eyewear line, all the glitz and glam of winning an Emmy, and her new album, "That's What It's All About," available now at Lisaloeb.com.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Welcome to Frosted Tips. I'm your guest host Andrea Barber.
You may know me as Kimmy Gibbler on full House
and Fuller House, and I co host a full House
rewatch podcast with Jody Sweeten called How Rude Tanner Ritos.
If you know me, you know I have a huge
love of boy bands, specifically, I have been a new
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Kids on the.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Block blockhead for thirty five years.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
But today I'm going to do my best to channel
the charm and lovability of Lance Bass as I interview
our guests today, the fabulous Lisa Loebe. You all know
Lisa as the cute, angsty singer in a little black
dress and cat eye glasses in the infamous Stay video.
But that was just the beginning of an incredibly eclectic
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career as a Grammy Award winning musician, actress, voiceover actress,
and entrepreneur with her own eyewear line, Naturally and coffee brand.
Not to mention, she is just the sweetest and smartest
person I've ever had the pleasure to meet and work with.
Lisa appeared on two episodes of Fuller House in our
fifth season, including our finale where she sang at DJ
(01:20):
Stephanie and Kimmy's triple wedding. I cannot wait to talk
to her about all of these things. So please welcome
Lisa loebe Hey, Hello.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Good morning, And am I gonna love your donut?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Oh yeah this. I have all my Kimmy Gibbler swag
behind me.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
It's so good.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I gotta make use of it somehow. So I've just
nicked I should have behind me.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
I should have put my Kimmy Gibbler mug and the
purple spandex leotard we had.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Wait, you had a Kimmy Gibbler.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
My daughter dressed up as you one here.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Halloween.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Oh my gosh, that's incredible. It's all coming back to me.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
It's coming back to me now too.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
That's incredible.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Right. I hosted a Kimmy Gibbler costume contest every Halloween
for ten years. I wish I would have picked her
to be a winner, because clearly, you know she's got
that Gibbler style.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
So I love that.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Lisa, Thank you so much for joining me today on
Frosted Tips. I was so excited when iHeartRadio reached out
to me and asked me to be a guest host
today and they said you can interview anybody you want, Like,
who do you want to interview? And immediately came to mind,
Lisa Lobe. Oh, I love that socitm you just you
are so sweet and so talented and so smart, and
(02:43):
I loved meeting you on the set of Fuller House.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
And I'm like, I just I want to talk to
her some more and get to know her some more.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
And I've had such a great time diving into your
career and just living in Lisa Land all week. It's
just incredibly special and so I appreciate your time.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Thank you, I appreciate it. Let's go back.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Let's start with the reason why we met in twenty nineteen,
your two appearances on Fuller House. I've been so excited
to talk to you about this. Your first appearance was
on an episode called Five Dates with Kimmy Gibbler, but
unfortunately we didn't have any scenes together, which was very
disappointing to me.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
But let's go back to that.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
You played yourself, but you were a cat owner who
was bringing her cat to DJ's veterinary practice to get
the cat's teeth cleaned, and then you get roped into
hearing Stephanie sing her song for you, and then you
invite her to be an opener on your tour, which
is fantastic. Why didn't this show go more seasons? Because
(03:49):
I would have loved to have seen that, and we
definitely would have had you back in future seasons. How
did this appearance come up? I know that you went
to Brown University and our showrunners are Brown University alumni alumni,
so I don't know if you am and they reached
out or how did.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
This get about?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
You know, I think that must have been what happened.
I did grow up studying acting and doing lots of acting,
you know, summer programs and theater things and musical theater
all through high school and college. And I had wanted
to do it as my main job, I thought when
I was growing up. But music kept being the thing
that was more it just it was the thing that
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that well a I could have more control over it.
You know, when you're an actor, you have to audition
and get the role and all of that. With music,
you just pick up a guitar and you play it.
I mean, you can work on a monologue, but with
a guitar, you can literally just pick it up and
play it. And I did get more gigs playing and
my audiences were great. I was getting some roles, some
good ones in high school. They tended to be me
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as a child, like I was the child in the
Philadelphia story. I was the newsboy and working like I
would always be a child but anyway, so it was
something that always was interesting to me. And then as
I've became a successful musician, I started getting cameos and
different acting opportunities presented to me, playing myself in different shows.
(05:09):
And that was At first I was like, no, I'm
an actor. I don't you know, I don't want to
play myself in a show. And then I realized along
the way it was just such a great experience and
it was such an honor to be able to go
onto different sets. It was like a field trip too
in Los Angeles, you know, or wherever I was in
New York to get to go on a set and
meet the actors and see behind the scenes and you know,
(05:31):
and have a scene or two scenes playing some version
of myself. Luckily, especially over the last few of the
last like four or five years, I realized I could
really talk to the writers and the directors and producers
to say, hey, this is funny, or hey this is funny.
But I don't think Lisa Lobe, even in this version
(05:51):
of your show, would do X, Y or Z. Can
we change it a little bit? But so anyway, I
think because of that experience, and also because yes, I
knew Brian and I knew the guys who Brian Steve. Yeah,
Brian and Steve were the showrunners, I think that's I
think that's why they asked me to be a part
of it. But it was so great.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Were you nervous to walk onto the set because like
we were, you know, Ras Juggernaut full House has just
been Yeah, this is like crazy cult following for thirty
five years.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I know, it's amazing. It's like an entire world and
it's a whole culture, and luckily it's an amazing community.
It was like a family really, and because it was
the Fuller House, there was an ease, you know, there
was just an ease and a happiness for people to
be there. Everybody's just so happy to be a part
of it, and the actors were so every actor was
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just so open and friendly and welcoming, so for me
as someone who would like to be doing more acting.
On the acting side, it was a very like it was.
It wasn't as nerve wracking because it was like, oh,
these are people were all working together. Plus the process
is you get to rehearse kind of like a play,
so it really is this like well oiled machine, but
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it's not like you're popping in to do a high
energy scene. You get to actually rehearse and talk to
the other actors and work with everybody. And that was
really that was a great experience for me to be
able to do that. It made it more comfortable for me.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I agree, I prefer multiicam. I think single cam is
so uncomfortable as an actor.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Because there's no rehearsal time.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
It's like you rehearse once and then boom you go.
And so I love I love sitcoms for that very reason.
Is because you get to rehearse for two or three
days before you're actually on camera. And I'm like, that's
how it should be. That's how you fine tune your performance.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
So you find your character, yeah, and you get your
words in your brain and your mouth and you're there.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Actually, absolutely, and I think it's helpful for the writers too,
because they need to refine their words as well and
see what's working and what's not working. So I enjoy
that process very much. And I didn't know you were
such a great actress. I mean, you're so good. Even
when you're playing yourself, you're still kind of acting because
you have to memorize lines and remember you're blocking and everything.
(08:08):
But yeah, I saw. I watched Hankkah on Rye, which
is a Hallmark Christmas movie that you were in a
couple of years ago.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Oh, Hanikah, Hanika movie, one of their Hanukah movies, Hallmark
Christmas movie, Christmas time. It's like holiday time holiday movies.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yes, yes, yes, but that was great.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
You played a character like a music teacher who participates
in a contest, and you wrote a song.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
For I did that movie, you know. I had written
a song called Light, which is a song about Hankah.
I wrote it. I had my friend Cliff Goldmach write
it with me. But I wanted I became as a
grown up, I became even more interested in my Judaism
because growing up I'm Jewish and I did all the
Jewish things and like went to synagogue when I was
supposed to do and had my bot Mitzvah and was
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confirmed and did all the major holidays. But I was
always a big question ask her whether it was out
loud or in my head. And as I got older,
I was not married and I was looking for a
long term relationship. What I would call it is get
married and have kids. In retrospect, it turned out it
was really just like a deep relationship is what I
(09:13):
really wanted. Although I did have kids and now I'm
really excited I did. But part of that in my
head was like, oh, I should marry a Jewish guy,
like I'm supposed to marry a Jewish person because I'm Jewish.
And then I started thinking, why is that hanging over
my head? Why is that so important when Judaism doesn't
necessarily play some central place in my life? Like why,
you know, if it was yoga or what new diet
(09:35):
I might be on, even though I don't believe in diets,
but you know, what new food thing I'm doing, I
would be all in, like what am I going to eat?
Like really into it. But with the Judaism thing, it
was just hanging over my head. So I started asking
questions to people, and I started. I met with a
few different rabbis actually, and I started understanding more about
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Judaism and how it applies to day to day life
and why all religions could be can be important whatever,
like if they give you some kind of a system
or structure in your life. And it started making me interested,
not necessarily in in those like Hallmark I call them
Hallmark holidays, the ones that you do without thinking why
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you're doing them, you know, and starting to find the
essence of the beauty. And you know, all religions have
issues for sure. That being said, it can also be
a really interesting way to connect with your your own culture,
which mine is Judaism and my religion. And also like
so specifically with Hanukkah, the rabbi would would talk about
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the message of hope, the idea of hope in Hankah,
the idea that there's this this story that the lights
in the in the when the temple was destroyed, there
was only enough oil for one night, but actually it
lasted for eight nights, and that can be a symbol
of hope. And so I thought, well, that's a really
beautiful thing to write about, something that I would like
to pass on to my kids. It's not necessarily, you know,
(11:02):
I don't want to step on anyone's fots. But it's
not taking the Bible literally or that's just not But
I do think that there are amazing things you can
take from from your own holidays other people's holidays. I
was looking at my own holidays, and so I wrote
this song called Light, and then it found a home
in the Hallmark movie. And yes, I played a singer songwriter,
a singing teacher who is not myself, who wears glasses
(11:25):
exactly like mine and dresses mostly like me out of
the closet of the wardrobe director's stylist closet in Canada
for that day. And I played a music teacher. And
I think I was supposed to have a few more scenes,
but the time got changed around, I think because of
my own schedule or their schedule. But yeah, I got
to be in a Hallmark movie, which was as an
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older person who's been doing entertainmenty things for a long time.
To be on the set, to be backstage hanging out,
getting to know the other actors, some of the who
are in a lot of those Hallmark movies, some who
are not. There was one of the guys is a
musical theater star. Like just being on the set, seeing
what the wardrobe people are doing, seeing you know, craft
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services and the fake snow sorry it's fake snow, and
you know, all of those little pieces and just being
there and connecting with all these people, just like when
I was in Fuller House, like really getting to talk
to the props people and person and the seamstress and
it's just a being part of that community was really
special for me. And then also to say get to
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say like I was on a Hallmark movie or I
was on Fuller House, like my That was one of
the other reasons I did it was because my daughter
is such a huge fan. I'm like, oh, my gosh,
this is going to be so cool. I'll get to go.
And then the kids got to come visit the set.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Oh they were so cute.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
They were so cute, and the writers are so great.
You know, I was hearing, you know, I don't know
as the producers or whoever, they're like, oh, the kids
need to stay in the bleachers where the audiences. But
you know what, when the kids got on the set,
the writers said, no, no, no, come with us and go
to each different set where the actors are working and
sit here right near the camera and be in it
and like not be in it, but you know, like
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be in the mix and really see what's happening and
experience it.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Special for them, it was really special.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I know. My son lost a tooth and a cast
member helped him, helped him put it in a a
mom moment, real life moment. Really, Oh my goodness, yes,
Candice helped him put it in a like a paper
towel and a ziplock to take home.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Oh that's so cute.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
That is like, that's like a real life full House
moment right there now, DJ is helping the little boy
with his.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Lost tooth exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I know.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Oh I'm so glad.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I was gonna ask if your kids were big fans
of full did they watch Full House too? Or are
they just a Fuller House generation?
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Fuller House generation? Okay, and I'm gonna be like, wait,
there's a prequel.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Well before Fuller House came out, I would be recognized,
but people, the kids would be like, you know what,
why do you look so old? Now? They think we're
expecting thirteen year old me, and I'm like, no, here's
forty year old me.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Yeah, Oh my gosh, that must be so wild to
grow up in front of the camera like that.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I don't know anything different because I started acting at
age five, so it was normal for me. But yeah,
it's it's it's quite something to have all of your
awkward formative years captured forever on tape and broadcast to
millions and millions of people all.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Across the world.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
You know, I'm surprised I'm not more crazy than I am.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I know, it was really Damber. You seem like you're
very grounded, and you've also had such a journey yourself,
you know, in your career and all the different things
that have informed your life and your career, which was
also so interesting to get to hang out and talk
to you all, and you know, get to know a
little bit the person behind behind the person, the person
(14:54):
behind that fullerhouse. Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 2 (17:13):
Talk to me about writing songs for shows. So, like,
you wrote the light song for the Hanka movie, and.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Actually did you? I wrote? I Luckily I wrote I
wrote that song and they ended up using it in
the show for the movie, and I'm really excited. Actually
we got choral arrangements made of it. So now choir
sing it both at schools, you know, they're always sliking
for a Hanka song, and then also sometimes people actually
sing it in synagogues and stuff like that. Like it's
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a holiday time song. But yeah, and for Fuller House,
I also did a song that I had from my
newer record at the time. I got to sing, you know,
as you do in a pet shop and in a
vet office, you bring your guitar out, which, WHI is
also a sign of maturity because part of me is
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you know, it happens to me at weddings where people
are like, oh, the band's up there playing, why don't
you get up and play with them? And I'm just like,
oh my gosh, I'm so embarrassed. I can't do that.
I'm shy. It's so weird. Why would I get up
at somebody's wedding and sing? That's so weird? And usually
the song they want me to sing is not appropriate
for a wedding.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
And it's about a breakup probably, But.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
You know now, I'm like, oh, yeah, of course like that.
If somebody's grandma wants you to do a thing, you
do the thing, or if you're in a veterinarian's office,
you do the thing that you're supposed to do.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
So so you wrote the song that Stephanie sings in
the vet office, Yes.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
I wrote that. I wrote that song. Oh no, she
wrote that song. That was song was her song.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
That was her song, and it signed in on the end.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
But yes, exactly, And I think I wrote my own
song for the wedding. Yeah, actually for the wedding. That
wasn't even my song either. That was a song by
Bright Eyes Bright Eyes that that my friend Gary for
his wedding. He wanted me to sing that song. It's
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called First Day of My Life, and he wanted me
to sing it at his wedding to Justine, and so
I learned it and then as an anniversary present, I
recorded a simple version of it. And then I think
I feel like they knew that I had recorded that song,
so they asked me to sing it in the wedding,
which I was so nervous because I didn't know all
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the words because it's not really my song. I don't
even know all the words to my own song sometimes.
And I thought, well, at least i'll have Q cards
and I'll be able to sort of see it off camera,
and they said I would, and then they're like, all right,
let's go, and there were no que cards. Yeah, and
I didn't really know my song, and I was so nervous.
In the end, they only used a snippet of it,
(19:50):
Thank the Lord, because I was so nervous. I was like,
oh my gosh, I knew I was going to be
cued by lyrics off camera, but there was lyrics on camera.
I was so nervous. But so I didn't write that either.
But I do write a lot of songs for shows,
Like there's an animated show called If You Give a
(20:11):
Mouse a Cookie, which is based on the book If
You Give a Mouse Cookie on Amazon, and my friend
and I wrote all the music that the characters sing
on that, and it's so much fun. Or movies like Twister,
the original Twister. I had a movie in that, and
rug Rats and a bunch of other movies. But it's
so fun when you write a song specifically for a
movie where you're really trying to it's like somebody else
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replaces your brain. Like a lot of the a lot
of the work goes away because a lot of the
puzzle pieces and clues are given to you in advance,
Like we want a song that feels emotional, that has
you know, violins in it, and you're singing from the
point of view of the main character, and these are
some themes we want you to hit, So it's fun
to have that puzzle. Yeah, they are looking for something
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specific for a scene. It makes it much more Yeah,
it's focused, and I like that structure. Structure and focus
is very good for the creative mind.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
I think, is there a revision process? Like do you
have to go to the producers and the executive producers
and the hierarchy and then they say no, we want changes?
Is that the same in music as it is for yeah, exacting.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
It's exactly the same, And luckily the song doesn't feel
as precious. It doesn't mean that I don't love it,
and I'm not trying to make the best song I
am trying to make, but I know that it's part
of a larger project that's not my own, and I'll
still fight for what I think is the best choice
for a melody or a lyric, or if I think
they're asking for something that I don't know if it's
a good idea. But that being said, it's a collaborative
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process and I also love that especially well, especially when
I'm working with people who are I think are good
at their jobs. It's really fun to work with a
great music supervisor and people who know you know that
they want shorter phrases or more staccato or whatever it is.
It's I'm sure you've experienced the same thing that when
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you're working with people who know what they want you
can you can feel more at ease and trust, trusting.
They have been situations I can't think of any specifically,
but there have definitely been a good number of situations
where you realize, like, the collaboration's not working. I don't
actually really want to wear those clothes that they want
me to wear in that photo shoot, or why did
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I do this or that? Or why do they want
me to change the song? But in these situations where
you literally are writing for something, you know that's part
of the deal.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, yeah, you know, it's what you signed up for.
But in the back of my mind, I'm always like,
I wish people would just stay in their lanes. Because
you hire people based on their professional their professionals. So
whether it's hair and makeup or you know, musicians or whatever,
it's like, Okay, trust these professionals to do what they
do best. So when we get notes from you know,
the network or whatever, it's like, Okay, trust and trust
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your people you've hired to make the best choices, but it's.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Hard when you didn't hire them. Like once I did
a Priceline commercial, and I hope the hair and makeup
person isn't listening and being offended by this story, because
but it was literally what happened. I was in this commercial.
It was a two day shoot. It was a big
budget commercial price line with all these different musicians, and
I liked wearing my hair very, very straight. Now in
real life, my hair is really fluffy and frizzy, but
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with a great blowout and a quick flat iron, it
looks like it's smooth and straight. So the gal starts
blow drawing my hair and then she's about to start
putting a flat iron through it, but my hair is
still damp. And this is an experienced person, and I'm like,
I'm so sorry, but can you We should completely dry
my hair before we put the flat iron. And they're like,
(23:43):
trust me, trust me, I do this all the time.
And it's taking so long and they can't get my
hair straight and they can't get it to look like
the way I look, which is why people have their
own hair and makeup people. But that's, you know, an extravagance.
And it was the nineties, so it was like thousands
and thousands of dollars. Now, some of us can get
at like a blowout before we go to a red
carpet event and it's you know, seventy five dollars place
(24:05):
or three hundred dollars or one hundred and fifty at
your house. You'll learn thousands and thousands. And I wasn't
going to hire my own people. And then and then
they barely had time to put on makeup, and then
the producers and directors are like, you got to get
on stage, We got to go. I'm like I'm not ready.
They're like, you look great. I'm like, I literally don't
have mascara on, oh much less eyelashes, but I can't.
And so I became this kind of pain in the
(24:27):
ass the first day of the shoot. And I didn't
mean to be. I just I just, you know, needed
people to do the job that I expected. So I
personally hired my own hair person for the next day
out of pocket, and in thirty minutes, bam, stick straight hair.
It was like natural. And then we did the makeup
and we were totally ready to go. But it was like, ah,
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you want to be able to you know, you do
have to keep I think you know this too from
doing this for so long. You keep an eye out
for yourself as well, and if you're comfortable or not comfortable,
or your eyebrown needs to go the other direction.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
You know yourself best and you try to be your
vestable And I don't think the sometimes I don't think
the people producing the commercial or the show or whatever
quite understand what it's like having to perform when you
feel uncomfortable with what you're wearing or your hair, and
you specifically have such a distinctive style that, yeah, you
want to feel like yourself or like your character if
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you're acting exactly, and if you're uncomfortable, just it's it
just throws you for a loop and it's hard mentally
to get past that. So good for you for hiring
your own people. You know, it's a bummer you had
to do it, but yeah, you learn, you learn.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
As you go along the tricks that you have.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
To do in your secret flat iron.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, yeah, you know yourself best, so you got to
you gotta do what you gotta do.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
The people in Fuller House, though, were so great. They
hair and makeup, they're garage and my outfit, the wardrobe
they gave me for the wedding was this gorgeous dress,
and they taught me something. Now I'm remembering. They taught
me two things. One, I got these great this is
very specific naturalizer, really comfortable heels that were platform beige heels,
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and they were platforms, so they were comfortable, but they
made me look, you know, super tall. And I started
buying that brand of shoes because they were so comfortable,
but they looked like lady shoes, you know. And then
also I had one of my favorite style of dresses,
which is fit and flare. It's very nineteen fifties or
sixties looking. I love that so wet, it was so cute.
But they and oh my gosh, and the actually you
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know what, I brought the dress, but the people who
are the tailor, the tailor there who'd been at the network,
oh my gosh, perfectly fit the dress first of all.
But then second of all, added somebody added a belt
and I had never I don't know why I hadn't
thought of this. They added a belt and it wasn't
a fancy belt, but on camera it looked really fancy.
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And now and then from then on, I started adding
that extra little belt I'm not a big accessories for Sally,
but adding that extra belt, it made my waist look
so tiny. And then I always put a little like
a what's it called underneath it, like a crinoline, like
one of those like knife and fifties that'll poof it out,
and then it makes your waist look small because you've
poofed out the rest of it. But that belt, just
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like the extra little things that they did on that show.
They knew how to make everything look great.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Oh it was.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
It was a gorgeous dress. I was just like, where'd
you get that dress? Because it was so beautiful.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Oh, it was just it was.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
That was such a hard day because it was such
a long day. We had like four am call times.
We shot for I don't know how many hours. We
were all emotional because it was the finale of Fuller House.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
It was a very.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Important episode and a wedding, weddings and a wedding.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
It was very stressful and emotional. But I'm so glad
you got to be a part of it and you were.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Just yeah, it'd be a fly on the wall there,
I mean, just to be just to be able to
see what was going on. Was really special.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah, And Joey McIntyre was the minister for the wedding,
and I saw you guys chatting a little bit, you know,
in between takes, and I'm like, oh, the two the
two singers are together.
Speaker 8 (27:59):
You know.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Wow, I got to meet Joey. It was so cute.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
That was your first time meeting him?
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Yeah, I think that was my first time meeting him,
and he was so cute and it was funny. Later
I interviewed him for my Where They Are Now segment
on my radio show on Series XM. But he I
went back and started looking at his videos from when
he was little, Like I was an age where I
think I was just a little old for some of
the boy bands. No offense to anybody, but I was
like a little bit old. And before that, I was
listening to like alternative music and led Zeppelin and David
(28:28):
Bowie and some other stuff, so I was familiarizing myself
with their music. But he was such a cute little boy.
He was a little boy.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Oh he was. He was twelve when he started and
it was yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
He was he had like the baby fat on his cheeks, like.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
He was just little shorts.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
He hadn't even hit puberty, yet like that time he
could hit all those high notes and please don't go girls.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I was so special, so special to have both.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Of you on the finale, so I love that, and
having you on Fuller House was such a natural fit
for a lot of reasons, but none other than you
are a singer and songwriter of children's music, and you've
won a Grammy for one of your albums. What made
you want to explore music for kids?
Speaker 4 (29:10):
You know, it's funny. It kind of reminds me of
Fuller House. Why Fuller House? You know, Fuller House happened
after full House. I am a really nostalgic person and
I am so connected with my childhood. When I see
your Kimmy Kibler stuff behind you, I'm like, love, I
love that you have Kimmi Gibler things, and like they're
nostalgic things, you know, and they remind you of a
certain time and place. And I started making kids music
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before I had kids, before I even knew really about
kids or anything. I was just so nostalgic for the
seventies when I grew up. I mean, even on my
desk in front of me, I have my little dolls
like I've got I'm showing you now a doll thirty
one flavors basket robinstall from the seventies.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Oh wow, that's so cool.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
I found the guy in my barbie case from my
old barbies that I still have. Here's the guy that
goes with the gal Oh thirty one flavors, the original
pink and brown and white colors, which it finally brought back.
But anyway, I'm a really nostalgic person, and I loved
the entertainment that I enjoyed when I was a kid.
I loved my record player. I had a little doll
that was there was a doll that you could buy
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that came with records that would go around and play songs.
I loved my barbies. I loved Free to Be You
and Me this record. I loved Steve Martin and the
early Sesame Street and there was a lot of music
and storytelling and things were clever and silly and very heartfelt.
And when I was offered an opportunity to make kids music,
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Barnes and Noble wanted me to make a record that
they would sell exclusively at Barnes and Noble, and they
thought of the idea of me doing a kid's record,
and it was a great idea because I kind of
wanted to just recapture my childhood and try out making
music like that. So I made a record with my
friend Liz Mitchell, who I was in a band with
in college, also at Brown University. She had made a
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bunch of beautiful children's albums. Her name is Elizabeth Mitchell.
As the children's artist. We made an album called Catch
the Moon, which was a beautiful children's record. But from
there then I started making more of that nineteen seventies
feeling musician records, like the record feel What You Feel
that I got the Grammy four and it had a
lot of guests on it, kind of like feel what
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you Like, kind of like Free to Be You and
Me had like Craig Robinson did a couple songs with
us and Steve no actually on a different record. Steve
Martin played on my Summer Camp Songs record, but it
was really children's music for such a long time. Really
has been a way for me to embrace my nostalgia,
to be to try out different genres of music and
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different types of songs and tell different stories. I have
a little more knowledge about kids now that my kids
are twelve and fourteen, although now they really want you know,
they like the grown up music the best. But having
played a lot of children's shows and I started to
get a feel for what kids like. But it's really
a selfish way for me to think about, you know,
(31:59):
roller scale and rainbows and Teddy Bears in the first
day of school and go back there, and I just
I like connecting with that and making music in that world.
And like a lot of other children's artists, it's really
important to make music that just sounds like music. It
sounds like grown up music. There's no difference between grown
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up in children's music. It's all done with intention and
to the best of our abilities. So a lot of
my friends who make children's music, they just make these
beautiful records that are family friendly. And they might be
silly or funny or kitchy. They may be dreamy or
you know, it can be a lot of different genres
and areas and styles of music to explore.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, well, you have such a melodic voice and such
a calming voice and presence, like it's almost asmr.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
It's just very calming.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
And so I can see why children are drawn to
your music because it's just so wonderful to listen to.
And then there's these messages like feel what you feel
is all about owning your feelings and respecting your feelings.
I think that's a great message to send to kids
as well. So this is a very well deserved Grammy
that you wont tell me?
Speaker 3 (33:12):
What was that like?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Like, what is it like winning a Grammy? Like I
will I will never be in this position, So tell me.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
I was so exciting. You know, when I was a kid,
I did watch the Grammys on TV. I remember like
the hippie those hippies like Fleetwood Mac getting up there.
I feel like people weren't wearing shoes, and they had
feathers hanging from their ears and all these great outfits,
you know, the Sonny and Share era. So I always
respected a Grammy. I thought it was really neat. As
(33:37):
I've gotten older and done this for a long time,
I feel like it's a cherry on top. It's it's
really nice to be recognized by my peers. I have
so many friends and family members who have not yet
won a Grammy there, but I still, you know, I
don't think of the Grammy as being like this must
be the best music ever, But I also still at
the same time really really respected and I really appreciate
the community of the folks who participate music, music, music education,
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the rights for music, people who write music and perform
music to actually make a living doing that. Those are
all things that there's a lot of advocacy through the Grammy.
So it was nice to be in that community. But
it was I like really stepped it up. I had
a real good stylist who got me a really amazing dress.
It was so much structure, it could stand on its own.
(34:22):
It was like I had never really worn a lot
of gowns, Like even when I'd been to the Grammys before,
I wore like cool little mini dresses or I never
really got into the whole like gown thing. I never
did that. So I had like a makeup artist and
a hair stylist and a gown, and.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Oh they knocked it out of the park and.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
It was really nice. And I went to all the
parties and I had a different gown for each party
for the different nights. And then winning the Grammy, I
was I was also especially dressed up because I was
one of the presenters in the non televised and the
there's a ton of Grammys that get that are given
out in a segment that's not televised, including the Children's
(34:59):
Music Grammy, and a lot of the classical music and
a lot of the music most of the music is
the awards are given out in the non televised parts.
But I was so dressed up because I was presenting.
But when they called my name, I was like, ah,
Like my whole body was shaking. I was, and I
did have a piece of paper because I wanted to
thank all the people because there were so many people
(35:19):
who collaborated on the record, and also people like babysitters
who had helped to make it possible to go work
so important.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
I love that you acknowledged your sitters, that your village
that helped you take care of the kids while because
somebody's got to watch them while moms making music.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
I know, And honestly it's usually the moms. No offense
to dads, but like in charge of the household and
the kids and that everything's really all we get to
fill out CEO, you know. So but it was really
exciting and it and after having won the Grammy, it
just it's a nice ex Like I said, it's a
(35:59):
cherry on. It's nice. It's you know, as an entertainer,
as a musician at all, there's often like, oh, what
are you working on? Oh, I'm working on a new album,
and everybody's like yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I'm working
on this new idea, I'm writing this thing. Uh huh. Yeah.
But when you when all of a sudden, when you
put Grammy winning in front of it, people really buy
into it, you know, They're like, oh, yeah, this is
(36:19):
actually happening. I don't know if you've experienced that at
all with labels.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
You know, I know what you mean. I know what
you mean.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
It's like you're like, I haven't changed. I'm still me.
I'm writing what I love. But you just have the
public recognition, which is nice.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
But you're like, I'm still me.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Yeah that's exactly, And people.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Perceive it differently.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
It's an acceptance in a weird way because you don't
need an award to.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Be the best you.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
But exactly, but it.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Matters to other people, I guess, is what I'm.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Trying to say. It really does, and even you know,
getting I still play a lot of concerts, both grown
up concerts and kids concerts, and I do, even as
an audience member myself. If I haven't heard of someone.
If I thought if it said Grammy winning, I'd be like, oh, well,
that might be really good, you know, like it's a
good seal of approval. But it's not. It's it's you
know again, like I, it's exactly what you said, You're
(37:10):
still you.
Speaker 9 (37:11):
So yeah, if you watch Dancing with the Stars, I.
Speaker 7 (37:22):
Can say this, and Karna will probably say the same thing.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
I don't think that we had great dancing chemistry.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Then you need to be listening to sex lies and
spray tead.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
My partner Ardam, he was so intense that meaning really nervous.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
With Ceryl buck Ededa didn't wear a lot of clothes.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
No, she was.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
She did super ankles warm.
Speaker 9 (37:43):
Get the behind the scenes of what goes down on
and off the dance floor.
Speaker 8 (37:48):
Dancing with the Stars breaths body image issues for women.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
The thinner you are, the more attention you end up
getting on that show.
Speaker 9 (37:56):
Injuries my full wings, Hey Christian, suppose yeah, I saw
you're dancing with the start.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
I saw what happened to your arm, and I have
the perfect guy to fix it.
Speaker 8 (38:06):
Fleeing honestly got to the player.
Speaker 7 (38:07):
I'm like, I'm just trying to survive again.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
I'm just trying to like make it out out of
this season.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Ego, she wanted to kill me. It was real bad
insecurity on the show.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
It was like everyone was talking about my weight and
it really affected my confidence so much.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
For like years to come and betrayals.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
Because of that one betrayal, I knew this is probably
my last season.
Speaker 9 (38:28):
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New episodes every Monday, Wednesday and Friday.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
My name is Cheryl Burke, and I approved this message.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Are your kids impressed by your career or are they
like my kids where they're totally disinterested in anything I
do professionally?
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Because Americans now, how old are they now?
Speaker 3 (38:57):
They're older.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
I have a twenty year old son and a seventeen
year old old daughter, and so yeah, they're just they're
the teenagers. There's like, you know, mom, you're embarrassing. What's
my curfew? Like that's all the y what's for dinner?
And what's my curfew? That's the only thing they care about.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
You're the mainest mom. Why we're the only ones who
can't have this or that? Yeah, I forgot do you
live I live in Los Angeles, I'm.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
In Orange County or actually no, I just moved, so yeah,
I'm in La County now closer, closer south.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
I think that's part of it, is that I am
constantly using the word it's all relative, because you know,
my son was with me recently. He went on tour
with me for a little bit of the summer, which
was really fun. We got to go to Omaha, Nebraska
and like Okoboji, Iowa, and all these different places that
we haven't had an opportunity to go to, and definitely
he hasn't. And but you know, we went through TSA
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at one of the airports, and this very stern, you know,
tough looking gal saw my id and looked up and
I was wearing a mask, probably took my mask down,
and she almost started crying, and she was just so
excited to meet me. She's like, oh, I'm such a
big fan. And my son kind of looked at her
and looked at me, and he had a moment of like, oh,
some people know who she is, you know, like you know,
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they've seen a couple of concerts. But those moments are
very special when somebody really has a connection and they
get to see that, or when they're at a concert
and they hear people singing along. But it is very relative.
You know, we're at schools and in a community where
there's all different people in our community, writers, musicians, people
who work for the government, teachers, lawyers, mom's dads, you
(40:32):
name it. But there are also, yes, a lot of
actors and musicians, and some who are the most successful
musicians and the most successful actors, and they're just there.
So it's like, well, so and so is on a
private jet, or so and so is playing in that arena.
You know, you're playing in a theater for four hundred people.
So it's it's all very relative, right, you know. And
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then sometimes when I think my daughter, who's fourteen and
a half, she's really I think getting a little bit
more in tune with the fact that, you know, you're
not just a singer who might have had a song
on the radio. You actually, like, I actually am writing songs,
like and there's like this whole process and this whole
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dream and this whole magic of going into a room
and writing a song and ideas and the start to
finish and then all the stuff that goes around it,
like you know, making artwork for the working with the artwork,
the videos, directing the videos, getting the wardrobe together, and
it's all very hands on. It always has been. I've
got great collaborators, but it's it's a very hands on process.
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So for them to see the reality of it in
a way, it gets even more appreciation. It also takes
away some of the magic, but it is also magical,
you know, like I think, and having the opportunities like
being on not to bring it back to Fuller House again,
but being able to go to Fuller House, like wow,
you have access to go do things that like you know,
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I know myself, when I was a kid, I would
only dream of, like wow, to be an actor, to
be in a professional place with all these people who
know what they're doing in a successful project.
Speaker 6 (42:11):
You know.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
They they they're around that all the time. My husband
works in TV also, and so they've been around it
since they were kids. But for them to understand that
it's it is still exciting and special, Like I love it.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Yeah, I'm so glad that your son got to go
on tour with you, because I think it's so important
for kids to see their parents in their workplace and
what they do. And for me, that happened when you know,
when Fuller House started because I stopped acting for ten years,
so I was a child actor, took a long break,
raised my kids as toddlers, and then started Fuller House.
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And that once my kids started coming to the set
with me, that's when they were like, Oh, this is
actual work, Like you don't just go play make believe
like go you know, and.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
You don't just appear on TV like looking like that.
There's seven fittings for that sweatshirt, and you have to
learn your lines, and you have to get your blocking,
and there's.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Well and not just my not just my profession, but
it takes two hundred people to make a sitcom. And
so they were just blown away by just how much
work it is, not just for me, but for the
whole team that's involved in making a sitcom. So I
think that's when the respect came. Like first there was
my mom is so embarrassing, she's Kimi Giller, She's wearing
these crazy outfits. But once they came to set with me,
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they were just like, wow, mom, this is really cool.
And then they became friends with the with the child
actors on set and hung out together and it was
just a very full circle moment for me. And that's
so cool, really glad that they got to be a
part of that. So I can appreciate your kids getting
to watch you do what you do best.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
I think it's interesting too, though, when you're when you're
when you have a job and you're a human, like
we've gotten to be humans because we get to keep
our jobs or and you took a break and you
you know from that particular job that you're a human.
And that's that's often interesting too, that that going between
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being a mom and also a human. But also sometimes
you're really in full mom mode, you know, like you're
fully like cleaning the countertop and trying to get the
kids to go to sleep on time, and wrap up
the food and get the pets fed, and you're true
in that mode. And then you know, you take your
kids to see a concert or go to a TV
show or whatever, and it's you're you're still in mom mode.
(44:26):
But then you're yourself, and sometimes the kids get embarrassing
you be a human. I think that can be embarrassing.
They're like, oh, Mom, don't wear that shirt.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
You know it's funny what they find embarrassing And I'm like,
really like no you like you guys have no idea,
Like nobody is looking at you as carefully as you
are looking at yourself. So it's really not embarrassing my
outfits with the Kimmy Gibbler outfits, you got to own it,
you know, totally, and you don't feel embarrassed, just to be.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Like, yeah, this is me, this.
Speaker 4 (44:54):
Is And also because you do that, I mean, because
of that character, it makes it more you know, it
makes it more regular for people to be themselves. And
that's just so so important. I think it's such a
big message.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Yeah, I want to ask about your eyewear line because
I'm forty eight. I just started wearing readers this year,
because that's it's unavoidable, and so talk to me about
I think I know why you started an eyewear line
because your glasses are so iconic. But what is that like,
starting the line and designing the glasses. And my next
(45:29):
question after this is going to be what do you
recommend for me? Because I'm headed to cost so right
after this to pick.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Out a pair of forces.
Speaker 4 (45:35):
Well, first let's go backwards. First of all, when you
go to Costco. I do have my frames or at
Costco and some mom and pop stores and online. Lisa
lob By wear nice fine glasses that fit you. I
always like a lift on people. I'd have to see
you in different glasses. But since you have blonde hair,
Oh my gosh, you can wear black glasses. You can
wear dark glasses. What's also pretty? Because you've got light eyes,
(45:56):
you might want to find either a metal or a
tortoise that lets light through the materials themselves. Oh okay,
but still provide some structure because you're you're fair and
you've got blond hair. But the classes you're gonna look
cute on you, I would have to I would love
to go see them on you and see what you're
gonna wear. It was funny getting an eyewear line. You know,
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at first, when I first started out and had some
songs on the radio, I used to people would always
I'd go on the radio and things that I thought
were like important, and I was I was a musician
and a songwriter and a guitarist. And then the first
thing people would ask me were was It wasn't usually
even a question. It was just like the glasses and
(46:38):
ask thank you, yeah, and I was so sort of about
my talent, I know, I was like, I was like,
why are they asking me about my glasses. That being said,
when I was growing up, I started wearing glasses. I
think in about six or seventh grade. I thought it
was eighth, but I saw some pictures of myself recently
and it might have been seventh or sixth I always
wanted glasses because my best friend had them since she
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was little, so I always thought they were cool. I
never associated with them as being like a bad thing,
and then I thought they were. Being a kid of
the eighties, I would get glasses that were like alternative
and new wave and weird, and they weren't always cute
looking on me, but they were so fun to buy
and look at, and little by little I found myself
(47:19):
with more of a cat eye frame because it was flattering,
slightly kitchy. I try not to go to grandma too point,
but I've always loved glasses and they've been important to me,
and I'm very practical. I think it's so important to
be able to see if you need glasses wearing glasses, Like,
don't be one of these people who are like I
can't see anything because I wanted to look pretty because
I'm not worrying my glasses. But I'm at an event,
(47:40):
I'm like, what that doesn't you know, practicality always comes first.
So it did make sense along the way when I
finally did get an opportunity to have an eyewear line,
to do it, because at first I rejected it. I'm like,
think about my music, not my glasses. Yeah, And then
I started thinking, you know, I'm a huge fan of
Elton John and David Bowie and oh yeah, Queen and
(48:02):
Dolly Parton and all these people share who are known
for their looks and their signature looks, which they have
a lot of fun with, but they're also known seriously
for their music. So it's not an either or, And
so I finally came to terms with that and also realized,
just like I was saying about your character and your show,
people looked up to me. Little kids would say, you know,
(48:25):
moms would say, my daughter wears her glasses because you
wear your glasses on TV. Or I wear glasses and
feel comfortable in them, even though I used to feel
shy about wearing them. Now I wear them and I'm
proud to wear them. So that empowerment and the fact
that they can see, you know, I thought that would
be a great reason to have an eyewear line. And
I do have a professional designer who designs the frames,
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but I do have regular meetings with them at my
kitchen table where we go through all the frames, we
go through the materials, we talk about what we like,
what we don't like, different adjustments that need to be
made to get the glasses and the frames to be
where they want to be. So I'm lucky to get
to be a collaborator in that process as well.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
I just got chills, like that was such a meaningful answer,
and I didn't know what you would say. I didn't
be like, well, I just wanted more cash, so I
thought I do felt.
Speaker 4 (49:13):
More cash as a mom.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
But to talk about empower making, helping people feel empowered
with an accessory or what you know, whatever it is,
I think that is just a lovely, wonderful reason to
have an eyeray line.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
That's that's great And I.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Can't wait to have my own pair of Lisa Lobe glasses.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
Yes, I mean, it's funny when you do so many
different things, and I know both of us do a
lot of different things, and definitely making a living is important.
It makes life easier and it makes it so that
you have the freedom to do what you want. But
when I'm trying to choose what I like early on
and then in the late nineties, I really took a
minute to figure out, like why am I being a musician?
(49:53):
Because there was a lot of time putting on makeup
and hair and all that stuff, the vanity stuff that's
just it can be really tough ireso and clothes and whatever.
But I'm from Dallas, so I wanted to look nice
or look whatever, like something, And I real I took
a step back, and you know, even thinking about what
other jobs do I want? What do I want to
do when I grow up? Even though I already was
(50:14):
doing something, I realized I found the value of Yeah,
that connection with people and being able to hear what
people have to say about their own lives, being able
to communicate, hang out with other people, relate to other people.
When you start looking at the values behind the opportunities
you get or that you create for yourself, it makes
(50:37):
everything so much more enjoyable and it makes it so
much easier to understand what to focus on, so that
was one of the reasons that you know, it's easy.
I was like, yeah, you know what this fits right
in having an eyewear line or continuing to make music.
I get to meet people and go do things and
travel and it's really great.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
Oh, you're such a great role model, and you're just
You're such a great friend and role model in person,
and I'm so glad that we got this opportunity to talk.
I have so many other questions for you, but I
have to wrap this up. Are there any upcoming projects
that you want to tell.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
Us about or you want to plug?
Speaker 4 (51:12):
But I will plug a brand new record I have
that came out a few weeks ago. Came out meaning digitally,
and also you can go to my Lisa Lobe official
YouTube channel and subscribe. My kids want me to have
more frewers. Subscribe, subscribe and like. But we have brand
new videos on there. It's an album called That's what
It's All About. I made it with a band called
The Hollow Trees, which is a really cute and kitchy
(51:34):
and authentic old timey band. We collaborated on this record
of a bunch of songs that I listened to growing
up with my parents and grandparents, like if I knew
you were coming, I to bake a cake or Marsy dotes.
There's a song called the doodle In Song which I
do a tap dance solo on which you have to
check out. It's not a very you know, super complicated,
(51:56):
but I do wings, which is a hard thing to do.
But anyway, that record is just out and it's family friendly.
Some might say for children, but also it's for your
grandparents and for you, and it's called That's what it's
all about. So as you know that Hokey Pokey's on
the record as well.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
Oh oh, I'm going to download this on my way
to Costco to go get my Lisa Lope glasses.
Speaker 4 (52:17):
Yes, definitely do listen to it.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
I feel very complete.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
That is so wonderful and I am so appreciative again
of your time that you've given me today. And what
an honor to be able to talk to you and
learn more about you and your wonderful career and you're
just very special to me. So thank you for doing this.
Speaker 4 (52:35):
Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Good to see you, hey.
Speaker 7 (52:40):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 4 (52:41):
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This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Welcome to Frosted Tips. I'm your guest host Andrea Barber.
You may know me as Kimmy Gibbler on full House
and Fuller House, and I co host a full House
rewatch podcast with Jody Sweeten called How Rude Tanner Ritos.
If you know me, you know I have a huge
love of boy bands, specifically, I have been a new
(00:32):
Kids on the.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Block blockhead for thirty five years.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
But today I'm going to do my best to channel
the charm and lovability of Lance Bass as I interview
our guests today, the fabulous Lisa Loebe. You all know
Lisa as the cute, angsty singer in a little black
dress and cat eye glasses in the infamous Stay video.
But that was just the beginning of an incredibly eclectic
(00:56):
career as a Grammy Award winning musician, actress, voiceover actress,
and entrepreneur with her own eyewear line, Naturally and coffee brand.
Not to mention, she is just the sweetest and smartest
person I've ever had the pleasure to meet and work with.
Lisa appeared on two episodes of Fuller House in our
fifth season, including our finale where she sang at DJ
(01:20):
Stephanie and Kimmy's triple wedding. I cannot wait to talk
to her about all of these things. So please welcome
Lisa loebe Hey, Hello.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Good morning, And am I gonna love your donut?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Oh yeah this. I have all my Kimmy Gibbler swag
behind me.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
It's so good.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I gotta make use of it somehow. So I've just
nicked I should have behind me.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
I should have put my Kimmy Gibbler mug and the
purple spandex leotard we had.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Wait, you had a Kimmy Gibbler.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
My daughter dressed up as you one here.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Halloween.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Oh my gosh, that's incredible. It's all coming back to me.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
It's coming back to me now too.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
That's incredible.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Right. I hosted a Kimmy Gibbler costume contest every Halloween
for ten years. I wish I would have picked her
to be a winner, because clearly, you know she's got
that Gibbler style.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
So I love that.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Lisa, Thank you so much for joining me today on
Frosted Tips. I was so excited when iHeartRadio reached out
to me and asked me to be a guest host
today and they said you can interview anybody you want, Like,
who do you want to interview? And immediately came to mind,
Lisa Lobe. Oh, I love that socitm you just you
are so sweet and so talented and so smart, and
(02:43):
I loved meeting you on the set of Fuller House.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
And I'm like, I just I want to talk to
her some more and get to know her some more.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
And I've had such a great time diving into your
career and just living in Lisa Land all week. It's
just incredibly special and so I appreciate your time.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Thank you, I appreciate it. Let's go back.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Let's start with the reason why we met in twenty nineteen,
your two appearances on Fuller House. I've been so excited
to talk to you about this. Your first appearance was
on an episode called Five Dates with Kimmy Gibbler, but
unfortunately we didn't have any scenes together, which was very
disappointing to me.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
But let's go back to that.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
You played yourself, but you were a cat owner who
was bringing her cat to DJ's veterinary practice to get
the cat's teeth cleaned, and then you get roped into
hearing Stephanie sing her song for you, and then you
invite her to be an opener on your tour, which
is fantastic. Why didn't this show go more seasons? Because
(03:49):
I would have loved to have seen that, and we
definitely would have had you back in future seasons. How
did this appearance come up? I know that you went
to Brown University and our showrunners are Brown University alumni alumni,
so I don't know if you am and they reached
out or how did.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
This get about?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
You know, I think that must have been what happened.
I did grow up studying acting and doing lots of acting,
you know, summer programs and theater things and musical theater
all through high school and college. And I had wanted
to do it as my main job, I thought when
I was growing up. But music kept being the thing
that was more it just it was the thing that
(04:28):
that well a I could have more control over it.
You know, when you're an actor, you have to audition
and get the role and all of that. With music,
you just pick up a guitar and you play it.
I mean, you can work on a monologue, but with
a guitar, you can literally just pick it up and
play it. And I did get more gigs playing and
my audiences were great. I was getting some roles, some
good ones in high school. They tended to be me
(04:48):
as a child, like I was the child in the
Philadelphia story. I was the newsboy and working like I
would always be a child but anyway, so it was
something that always was interesting to me. And then as
I've became a successful musician, I started getting cameos and
different acting opportunities presented to me, playing myself in different shows.
(05:09):
And that was At first I was like, no, I'm
an actor. I don't you know, I don't want to
play myself in a show. And then I realized along
the way it was just such a great experience and
it was such an honor to be able to go
onto different sets. It was like a field trip too
in Los Angeles, you know, or wherever I was in
New York to get to go on a set and
meet the actors and see behind the scenes and you know,
(05:31):
and have a scene or two scenes playing some version
of myself. Luckily, especially over the last few of the
last like four or five years, I realized I could
really talk to the writers and the directors and producers
to say, hey, this is funny, or hey this is funny.
But I don't think Lisa Lobe, even in this version
(05:51):
of your show, would do X, Y or Z. Can
we change it a little bit? But so anyway, I
think because of that experience, and also because yes, I
knew Brian and I knew the guys who Brian Steve. Yeah,
Brian and Steve were the showrunners, I think that's I
think that's why they asked me to be a part
of it. But it was so great.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Were you nervous to walk onto the set because like
we were, you know, Ras Juggernaut full House has just
been Yeah, this is like crazy cult following for thirty
five years.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I know, it's amazing. It's like an entire world and
it's a whole culture, and luckily it's an amazing community.
It was like a family really, and because it was
the Fuller House, there was an ease, you know, there
was just an ease and a happiness for people to
be there. Everybody's just so happy to be a part
of it, and the actors were so every actor was
(06:42):
just so open and friendly and welcoming, so for me
as someone who would like to be doing more acting.
On the acting side, it was a very like it was.
It wasn't as nerve wracking because it was like, oh,
these are people were all working together. Plus the process
is you get to rehearse kind of like a play,
so it really is this like well oiled machine, but
(07:05):
it's not like you're popping in to do a high
energy scene. You get to actually rehearse and talk to
the other actors and work with everybody. And that was
really that was a great experience for me to be
able to do that. It made it more comfortable for me.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I agree, I prefer multiicam. I think single cam is
so uncomfortable as an actor.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Because there's no rehearsal time.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
It's like you rehearse once and then boom you go.
And so I love I love sitcoms for that very reason.
Is because you get to rehearse for two or three
days before you're actually on camera. And I'm like, that's
how it should be. That's how you fine tune your performance.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
So you find your character, yeah, and you get your
words in your brain and your mouth and you're there.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Actually, absolutely, and I think it's helpful for the writers too,
because they need to refine their words as well and
see what's working and what's not working. So I enjoy
that process very much. And I didn't know you were
such a great actress. I mean, you're so good. Even
when you're playing yourself, you're still kind of acting because
you have to memorize lines and remember you're blocking and everything.
(08:08):
But yeah, I saw. I watched Hankkah on Rye, which
is a Hallmark Christmas movie that you were in a
couple of years ago.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Oh, Hanikah, Hanika movie, one of their Hanukah movies, Hallmark
Christmas movie, Christmas time. It's like holiday time holiday movies.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yes, yes, yes, but that was great.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
You played a character like a music teacher who participates
in a contest, and you wrote a song.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
For I did that movie, you know. I had written
a song called Light, which is a song about Hankah.
I wrote it. I had my friend Cliff Goldmach write
it with me. But I wanted I became as a
grown up, I became even more interested in my Judaism
because growing up I'm Jewish and I did all the
Jewish things and like went to synagogue when I was
supposed to do and had my bot Mitzvah and was
(08:52):
confirmed and did all the major holidays. But I was
always a big question ask her whether it was out
loud or in my head. And as I got older,
I was not married and I was looking for a
long term relationship. What I would call it is get
married and have kids. In retrospect, it turned out it
was really just like a deep relationship is what I
(09:13):
really wanted. Although I did have kids and now I'm
really excited I did. But part of that in my
head was like, oh, I should marry a Jewish guy,
like I'm supposed to marry a Jewish person because I'm Jewish.
And then I started thinking, why is that hanging over
my head? Why is that so important when Judaism doesn't
necessarily play some central place in my life? Like why,
you know, if it was yoga or what new diet
(09:35):
I might be on, even though I don't believe in diets,
but you know, what new food thing I'm doing, I
would be all in, like what am I going to eat?
Like really into it. But with the Judaism thing, it
was just hanging over my head. So I started asking
questions to people, and I started. I met with a
few different rabbis actually, and I started understanding more about
(09:56):
Judaism and how it applies to day to day life
and why all religions could be can be important whatever,
like if they give you some kind of a system
or structure in your life. And it started making me interested,
not necessarily in in those like Hallmark I call them
Hallmark holidays, the ones that you do without thinking why
(10:16):
you're doing them, you know, and starting to find the
essence of the beauty. And you know, all religions have
issues for sure. That being said, it can also be
a really interesting way to connect with your your own culture,
which mine is Judaism and my religion. And also like
so specifically with Hanukkah, the rabbi would would talk about
(10:39):
the message of hope, the idea of hope in Hankah,
the idea that there's this this story that the lights
in the in the when the temple was destroyed, there
was only enough oil for one night, but actually it
lasted for eight nights, and that can be a symbol
of hope. And so I thought, well, that's a really
beautiful thing to write about, something that I would like
to pass on to my kids. It's not necessarily, you know,
(11:02):
I don't want to step on anyone's fots. But it's
not taking the Bible literally or that's just not But
I do think that there are amazing things you can
take from from your own holidays other people's holidays. I
was looking at my own holidays, and so I wrote
this song called Light, and then it found a home
in the Hallmark movie. And yes, I played a singer songwriter,
a singing teacher who is not myself, who wears glasses
(11:25):
exactly like mine and dresses mostly like me out of
the closet of the wardrobe director's stylist closet in Canada
for that day. And I played a music teacher. And
I think I was supposed to have a few more scenes,
but the time got changed around, I think because of
my own schedule or their schedule. But yeah, I got
to be in a Hallmark movie, which was as an
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older person who's been doing entertainmenty things for a long time.
To be on the set, to be backstage hanging out,
getting to know the other actors, some of the who
are in a lot of those Hallmark movies, some who
are not. There was one of the guys is a
musical theater star. Like just being on the set, seeing
what the wardrobe people are doing, seeing you know, craft
(12:11):
services and the fake snow sorry it's fake snow, and
you know, all of those little pieces and just being
there and connecting with all these people, just like when
I was in Fuller House, like really getting to talk
to the props people and person and the seamstress and
it's just a being part of that community was really
special for me. And then also to say get to
(12:32):
say like I was on a Hallmark movie or I
was on Fuller House, like my That was one of
the other reasons I did it was because my daughter
is such a huge fan. I'm like, oh, my gosh,
this is going to be so cool. I'll get to go.
And then the kids got to come visit the set.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Oh they were so cute.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
They were so cute, and the writers are so great.
You know, I was hearing, you know, I don't know
as the producers or whoever, they're like, oh, the kids
need to stay in the bleachers where the audiences. But
you know what, when the kids got on the set,
the writers said, no, no, no, come with us and go
to each different set where the actors are working and
sit here right near the camera and be in it
and like not be in it, but you know, like
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be in the mix and really see what's happening and
experience it.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Special for them, it was really special.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I know. My son lost a tooth and a cast
member helped him, helped him put it in a a
mom moment, real life moment. Really, Oh my goodness, yes,
Candice helped him put it in a like a paper
towel and a ziplock to take home.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Oh that's so cute.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
That is like, that's like a real life full House
moment right there now, DJ is helping the little boy
with his.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Lost tooth exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I know.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Oh I'm so glad.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I was gonna ask if your kids were big fans
of full did they watch Full House too? Or are
they just a Fuller House generation?
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Fuller House generation? Okay, and I'm gonna be like, wait,
there's a prequel.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Well before Fuller House came out, I would be recognized,
but people, the kids would be like, you know what,
why do you look so old? Now? They think we're
expecting thirteen year old me, and I'm like, no, here's
forty year old me.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Yeah, Oh my gosh, that must be so wild to
grow up in front of the camera like that.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I don't know anything different because I started acting at
age five, so it was normal for me. But yeah,
it's it's it's quite something to have all of your
awkward formative years captured forever on tape and broadcast to
millions and millions of people all.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Across the world.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
You know, I'm surprised I'm not more crazy than I am.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I know, it was really Damber. You seem like you're
very grounded, and you've also had such a journey yourself,
you know, in your career and all the different things
that have informed your life and your career, which was
also so interesting to get to hang out and talk
to you all, and you know, get to know a
little bit the person behind behind the person, the person
(14:54):
behind that fullerhouse. Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 2 (17:13):
Talk to me about writing songs for shows. So, like,
you wrote the light song for the Hanka movie, and.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Actually did you? I wrote? I Luckily I wrote I
wrote that song and they ended up using it in
the show for the movie, and I'm really excited. Actually
we got choral arrangements made of it. So now choir
sing it both at schools, you know, they're always sliking
for a Hanka song, and then also sometimes people actually
sing it in synagogues and stuff like that. Like it's
(17:42):
a holiday time song. But yeah, and for Fuller House,
I also did a song that I had from my
newer record at the time. I got to sing, you know,
as you do in a pet shop and in a
vet office, you bring your guitar out, which, WHI is
also a sign of maturity because part of me is
(18:04):
you know, it happens to me at weddings where people
are like, oh, the band's up there playing, why don't
you get up and play with them? And I'm just like,
oh my gosh, I'm so embarrassed. I can't do that.
I'm shy. It's so weird. Why would I get up
at somebody's wedding and sing? That's so weird? And usually
the song they want me to sing is not appropriate
for a wedding.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
And it's about a breakup probably, But.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
You know now, I'm like, oh, yeah, of course like that.
If somebody's grandma wants you to do a thing, you
do the thing, or if you're in a veterinarian's office,
you do the thing that you're supposed to do.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
So so you wrote the song that Stephanie sings in
the vet office, Yes.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
I wrote that. I wrote that song. Oh no, she
wrote that song. That was song was her song.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
That was her song, and it signed in on the end.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
But yes, exactly, And I think I wrote my own
song for the wedding. Yeah, actually for the wedding. That
wasn't even my song either. That was a song by
Bright Eyes Bright Eyes that that my friend Gary for
his wedding. He wanted me to sing that song. It's
(19:08):
called First Day of My Life, and he wanted me
to sing it at his wedding to Justine, and so
I learned it and then as an anniversary present, I
recorded a simple version of it. And then I think
I feel like they knew that I had recorded that song,
so they asked me to sing it in the wedding,
which I was so nervous because I didn't know all
(19:29):
the words because it's not really my song. I don't
even know all the words to my own song sometimes.
And I thought, well, at least i'll have Q cards
and I'll be able to sort of see it off camera,
and they said I would, and then they're like, all right,
let's go, and there were no que cards. Yeah, and
I didn't really know my song, and I was so nervous.
In the end, they only used a snippet of it,
(19:50):
Thank the Lord, because I was so nervous. I was like,
oh my gosh, I knew I was going to be
cued by lyrics off camera, but there was lyrics on camera.
I was so nervous. But so I didn't write that either.
But I do write a lot of songs for shows,
Like there's an animated show called If You Give a
(20:11):
Mouse a Cookie, which is based on the book If
You Give a Mouse Cookie on Amazon, and my friend
and I wrote all the music that the characters sing
on that, and it's so much fun. Or movies like Twister,
the original Twister. I had a movie in that, and
rug Rats and a bunch of other movies. But it's
so fun when you write a song specifically for a
movie where you're really trying to it's like somebody else
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replaces your brain. Like a lot of the a lot
of the work goes away because a lot of the
puzzle pieces and clues are given to you in advance,
Like we want a song that feels emotional, that has
you know, violins in it, and you're singing from the
point of view of the main character, and these are
some themes we want you to hit, So it's fun
to have that puzzle. Yeah, they are looking for something
(20:56):
specific for a scene. It makes it much more Yeah,
it's focused, and I like that structure. Structure and focus
is very good for the creative mind.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
I think, is there a revision process? Like do you
have to go to the producers and the executive producers
and the hierarchy and then they say no, we want changes?
Is that the same in music as it is for yeah, exacting.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
It's exactly the same, And luckily the song doesn't feel
as precious. It doesn't mean that I don't love it,
and I'm not trying to make the best song I
am trying to make, but I know that it's part
of a larger project that's not my own, and I'll
still fight for what I think is the best choice
for a melody or a lyric, or if I think
they're asking for something that I don't know if it's
a good idea. But that being said, it's a collaborative
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process and I also love that especially well, especially when
I'm working with people who are I think are good
at their jobs. It's really fun to work with a
great music supervisor and people who know you know that
they want shorter phrases or more staccato or whatever it is.
It's I'm sure you've experienced the same thing that when
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you're working with people who know what they want you
can you can feel more at ease and trust, trusting.
They have been situations I can't think of any specifically,
but there have definitely been a good number of situations
where you realize, like, the collaboration's not working. I don't
actually really want to wear those clothes that they want
me to wear in that photo shoot, or why did
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I do this or that? Or why do they want
me to change the song? But in these situations where
you literally are writing for something, you know that's part
of the deal.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, yeah, you know, it's what you signed up for.
But in the back of my mind, I'm always like,
I wish people would just stay in their lanes. Because
you hire people based on their professional their professionals. So
whether it's hair and makeup or you know, musicians or whatever,
it's like, Okay, trust these professionals to do what they
do best. So when we get notes from you know,
the network or whatever, it's like, Okay, trust and trust
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your people you've hired to make the best choices, but it's.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Hard when you didn't hire them. Like once I did
a Priceline commercial, and I hope the hair and makeup
person isn't listening and being offended by this story, because
but it was literally what happened. I was in this commercial.
It was a two day shoot. It was a big
budget commercial price line with all these different musicians, and
I liked wearing my hair very, very straight. Now in
real life, my hair is really fluffy and frizzy, but
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with a great blowout and a quick flat iron, it
looks like it's smooth and straight. So the gal starts
blow drawing my hair and then she's about to start
putting a flat iron through it, but my hair is
still damp. And this is an experienced person, and I'm like,
I'm so sorry, but can you We should completely dry
my hair before we put the flat iron. And they're like,
(23:43):
trust me, trust me, I do this all the time.
And it's taking so long and they can't get my
hair straight and they can't get it to look like
the way I look, which is why people have their
own hair and makeup people. But that's, you know, an extravagance.
And it was the nineties, so it was like thousands
and thousands of dollars. Now, some of us can get
at like a blowout before we go to a red
carpet event and it's you know, seventy five dollars place
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or three hundred dollars or one hundred and fifty at
your house. You'll learn thousands and thousands. And I wasn't
going to hire my own people. And then and then
they barely had time to put on makeup, and then
the producers and directors are like, you got to get
on stage, We got to go. I'm like I'm not ready.
They're like, you look great. I'm like, I literally don't
have mascara on, oh much less eyelashes, but I can't.
And so I became this kind of pain in the
(24:27):
ass the first day of the shoot. And I didn't
mean to be. I just I just, you know, needed
people to do the job that I expected. So I
personally hired my own hair person for the next day
out of pocket, and in thirty minutes, bam, stick straight hair.
It was like natural. And then we did the makeup
and we were totally ready to go. But it was like, ah,
(24:49):
you want to be able to you know, you do
have to keep I think you know this too from
doing this for so long. You keep an eye out
for yourself as well, and if you're comfortable or not comfortable,
or your eyebrown needs to go the other direction.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
You know yourself best and you try to be your
vestable And I don't think the sometimes I don't think
the people producing the commercial or the show or whatever
quite understand what it's like having to perform when you
feel uncomfortable with what you're wearing or your hair, and
you specifically have such a distinctive style that, yeah, you
want to feel like yourself or like your character if
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you're acting exactly, and if you're uncomfortable, just it's it
just throws you for a loop and it's hard mentally
to get past that. So good for you for hiring
your own people. You know, it's a bummer you had
to do it, but yeah, you learn, you learn.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
As you go along the tricks that you have.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
To do in your secret flat iron.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, yeah, you know yourself best, so you got to
you gotta do what you gotta do.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
The people in Fuller House, though, were so great. They
hair and makeup, they're garage and my outfit, the wardrobe
they gave me for the wedding was this gorgeous dress,
and they taught me something. Now I'm remembering. They taught
me two things. One, I got these great this is
very specific naturalizer, really comfortable heels that were platform beige heels,
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and they were platforms, so they were comfortable, but they
made me look, you know, super tall. And I started
buying that brand of shoes because they were so comfortable,
but they looked like lady shoes, you know. And then
also I had one of my favorite style of dresses,
which is fit and flare. It's very nineteen fifties or
sixties looking. I love that so wet, it was so cute.
But they and oh my gosh, and the actually you
(26:27):
know what, I brought the dress, but the people who
are the tailor, the tailor there who'd been at the network,
oh my gosh, perfectly fit the dress first of all.
But then second of all, added somebody added a belt
and I had never I don't know why I hadn't
thought of this. They added a belt and it wasn't
a fancy belt, but on camera it looked really fancy.
(26:48):
And now and then from then on, I started adding
that extra little belt I'm not a big accessories for Sally,
but adding that extra belt, it made my waist look
so tiny. And then I always put a little like
a what's it called underneath it, like a crinoline, like
one of those like knife and fifties that'll poof it out,
and then it makes your waist look small because you've
poofed out the rest of it. But that belt, just
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like the extra little things that they did on that show.
They knew how to make everything look great.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Oh it was.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
It was a gorgeous dress. I was just like, where'd
you get that dress? Because it was so beautiful.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Oh, it was just it was.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
That was such a hard day because it was such
a long day. We had like four am call times.
We shot for I don't know how many hours. We
were all emotional because it was the finale of Fuller House.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
It was a very.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Important episode and a wedding, weddings and a wedding.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
It was very stressful and emotional. But I'm so glad
you got to be a part of it and you were.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Just yeah, it'd be a fly on the wall there,
I mean, just to be just to be able to
see what was going on. Was really special.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah, And Joey McIntyre was the minister for the wedding,
and I saw you guys chatting a little bit, you know,
in between takes, and I'm like, oh, the two the
two singers are together.
Speaker 8 (27:59):
You know.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Wow, I got to meet Joey. It was so cute.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
That was your first time meeting him?
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Yeah, I think that was my first time meeting him,
and he was so cute and it was funny. Later
I interviewed him for my Where They Are Now segment
on my radio show on Series XM. But he I
went back and started looking at his videos from when
he was little, Like I was an age where I
think I was just a little old for some of
the boy bands. No offense to anybody, but I was
like a little bit old. And before that, I was
listening to like alternative music and led Zeppelin and David
(28:28):
Bowie and some other stuff, so I was familiarizing myself
with their music. But he was such a cute little boy.
He was a little boy.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Oh he was. He was twelve when he started and
it was yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
He was he had like the baby fat on his cheeks, like.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
He was just little shorts.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
He hadn't even hit puberty, yet like that time he
could hit all those high notes and please don't go girls.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I was so special, so special to have both.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Of you on the finale, so I love that, and
having you on Fuller House was such a natural fit
for a lot of reasons, but none other than you
are a singer and songwriter of children's music, and you've
won a Grammy for one of your albums. What made
you want to explore music for kids?
Speaker 4 (29:10):
You know, it's funny. It kind of reminds me of
Fuller House. Why Fuller House? You know, Fuller House happened
after full House. I am a really nostalgic person and
I am so connected with my childhood. When I see
your Kimmy Kibler stuff behind you, I'm like, love, I
love that you have Kimmi Gibler things, and like they're
nostalgic things, you know, and they remind you of a
certain time and place. And I started making kids music
(29:32):
before I had kids, before I even knew really about
kids or anything. I was just so nostalgic for the
seventies when I grew up. I mean, even on my
desk in front of me, I have my little dolls
like I've got I'm showing you now a doll thirty
one flavors basket robinstall from the seventies.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Oh wow, that's so cool.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
I found the guy in my barbie case from my
old barbies that I still have. Here's the guy that
goes with the gal Oh thirty one flavors, the original
pink and brown and white colors, which it finally brought back.
But anyway, I'm a really nostalgic person, and I loved
the entertainment that I enjoyed when I was a kid.
I loved my record player. I had a little doll
that was there was a doll that you could buy
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that came with records that would go around and play songs.
I loved my barbies. I loved Free to Be You
and Me this record. I loved Steve Martin and the
early Sesame Street and there was a lot of music
and storytelling and things were clever and silly and very heartfelt.
And when I was offered an opportunity to make kids music,
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Barnes and Noble wanted me to make a record that
they would sell exclusively at Barnes and Noble, and they
thought of the idea of me doing a kid's record,
and it was a great idea because I kind of
wanted to just recapture my childhood and try out making
music like that. So I made a record with my
friend Liz Mitchell, who I was in a band with
in college, also at Brown University. She had made a
(30:56):
bunch of beautiful children's albums. Her name is Elizabeth Mitchell.
As the children's artist. We made an album called Catch
the Moon, which was a beautiful children's record. But from
there then I started making more of that nineteen seventies
feeling musician records, like the record feel What You Feel
that I got the Grammy four and it had a
lot of guests on it, kind of like feel what
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you Like, kind of like Free to Be You and
Me had like Craig Robinson did a couple songs with
us and Steve no actually on a different record. Steve
Martin played on my Summer Camp Songs record, but it
was really children's music for such a long time. Really
has been a way for me to embrace my nostalgia,
to be to try out different genres of music and
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different types of songs and tell different stories. I have
a little more knowledge about kids now that my kids
are twelve and fourteen, although now they really want you know,
they like the grown up music the best. But having
played a lot of children's shows and I started to
get a feel for what kids like. But it's really
a selfish way for me to think about, you know,
(31:59):
roller scale and rainbows and Teddy Bears in the first
day of school and go back there, and I just
I like connecting with that and making music in that world.
And like a lot of other children's artists, it's really
important to make music that just sounds like music. It
sounds like grown up music. There's no difference between grown
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up in children's music. It's all done with intention and
to the best of our abilities. So a lot of
my friends who make children's music, they just make these
beautiful records that are family friendly. And they might be
silly or funny or kitchy. They may be dreamy or
you know, it can be a lot of different genres
and areas and styles of music to explore.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, well, you have such a melodic voice and such
a calming voice and presence, like it's almost asmr.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
It's just very calming.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
And so I can see why children are drawn to
your music because it's just so wonderful to listen to.
And then there's these messages like feel what you feel
is all about owning your feelings and respecting your feelings.
I think that's a great message to send to kids
as well. So this is a very well deserved Grammy
that you wont tell me?
Speaker 3 (33:12):
What was that like?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Like, what is it like winning a Grammy? Like I
will I will never be in this position, So tell me.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
I was so exciting. You know, when I was a kid,
I did watch the Grammys on TV. I remember like
the hippie those hippies like Fleetwood Mac getting up there.
I feel like people weren't wearing shoes, and they had
feathers hanging from their ears and all these great outfits,
you know, the Sonny and Share era. So I always
respected a Grammy. I thought it was really neat. As
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I've gotten older and done this for a long time,
I feel like it's a cherry on top. It's it's
really nice to be recognized by my peers. I have
so many friends and family members who have not yet
won a Grammy there, but I still, you know, I
don't think of the Grammy as being like this must
be the best music ever, But I also still at
the same time really really respected and I really appreciate
the community of the folks who participate music, music, music education,
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the rights for music, people who write music and perform
music to actually make a living doing that. Those are
all things that there's a lot of advocacy through the Grammy.
So it was nice to be in that community. But
it was I like really stepped it up. I had
a real good stylist who got me a really amazing dress.
It was so much structure, it could stand on its own.
(34:22):
It was like I had never really worn a lot
of gowns, Like even when I'd been to the Grammys before,
I wore like cool little mini dresses or I never
really got into the whole like gown thing. I never
did that. So I had like a makeup artist and
a hair stylist and a gown, and.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Oh they knocked it out of the park and.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
It was really nice. And I went to all the
parties and I had a different gown for each party
for the different nights. And then winning the Grammy, I
was I was also especially dressed up because I was
one of the presenters in the non televised and the
there's a ton of Grammys that get that are given
out in a segment that's not televised, including the Children's
(34:59):
Music Grammy, and a lot of the classical music and
a lot of the music most of the music is
the awards are given out in the non televised parts.
But I was so dressed up because I was presenting.
But when they called my name, I was like, ah,
Like my whole body was shaking. I was, and I
did have a piece of paper because I wanted to
thank all the people because there were so many people
(35:19):
who collaborated on the record, and also people like babysitters
who had helped to make it possible to go work
so important.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
I love that you acknowledged your sitters, that your village
that helped you take care of the kids while because
somebody's got to watch them while moms making music.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
I know, And honestly it's usually the moms. No offense
to dads, but like in charge of the household and
the kids and that everything's really all we get to
fill out CEO, you know. So but it was really
exciting and it and after having won the Grammy, it
just it's a nice ex Like I said, it's a
(35:59):
cherry on. It's nice. It's you know, as an entertainer,
as a musician at all, there's often like, oh, what
are you working on? Oh, I'm working on a new album,
and everybody's like yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I'm working
on this new idea, I'm writing this thing. Uh huh. Yeah.
But when you when all of a sudden, when you
put Grammy winning in front of it, people really buy
into it, you know, They're like, oh, yeah, this is
(36:19):
actually happening. I don't know if you've experienced that at
all with labels.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
You know, I know what you mean. I know what
you mean.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
It's like you're like, I haven't changed. I'm still me.
I'm writing what I love. But you just have the
public recognition, which is nice.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
But you're like, I'm still me.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Yeah that's exactly, And people.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Perceive it differently.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
It's an acceptance in a weird way because you don't
need an award to.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Be the best you.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
But exactly, but it.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Matters to other people, I guess, is what I'm.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Trying to say. It really does, and even you know,
getting I still play a lot of concerts, both grown
up concerts and kids concerts, and I do, even as
an audience member myself. If I haven't heard of someone.
If I thought if it said Grammy winning, I'd be like, oh, well,
that might be really good, you know, like it's a
good seal of approval. But it's not. It's it's you
know again, like I, it's exactly what you said, You're
(37:10):
still you.
Speaker 9 (37:11):
So yeah, if you watch Dancing with the Stars, I.
Speaker 7 (37:22):
Can say this, and Karna will probably say the same thing.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
I don't think that we had great dancing chemistry.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Then you need to be listening to sex lies and
spray tead.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
My partner Ardam, he was so intense that meaning really nervous.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
With Ceryl buck Ededa didn't wear a lot of clothes.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
No, she was.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
She did super ankles warm.
Speaker 9 (37:43):
Get the behind the scenes of what goes down on
and off the dance floor.
Speaker 8 (37:48):
Dancing with the Stars breaths body image issues for women.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
The thinner you are, the more attention you end up
getting on that show.
Speaker 9 (37:56):
Injuries my full wings, Hey Christian, suppose yeah, I saw
you're dancing with the start.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
I saw what happened to your arm, and I have
the perfect guy to fix it.
Speaker 8 (38:06):
Fleeing honestly got to the player.
Speaker 7 (38:07):
I'm like, I'm just trying to survive again.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
I'm just trying to like make it out out of
this season.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Ego, she wanted to kill me. It was real bad
insecurity on the show.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
It was like everyone was talking about my weight and
it really affected my confidence so much.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
For like years to come and betrayals.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
Because of that one betrayal, I knew this is probably
my last season.
Speaker 9 (38:28):
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New episodes every Monday, Wednesday and Friday.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
My name is Cheryl Burke, and I approved this message.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Are your kids impressed by your career or are they
like my kids where they're totally disinterested in anything I
do professionally?
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Because Americans now, how old are they now?
Speaker 3 (38:57):
They're older.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
I have a twenty year old son and a seventeen
year old old daughter, and so yeah, they're just they're
the teenagers. There's like, you know, mom, you're embarrassing. What's
my curfew? Like that's all the y what's for dinner?
And what's my curfew? That's the only thing they care about.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
You're the mainest mom. Why we're the only ones who
can't have this or that? Yeah, I forgot do you
live I live in Los Angeles, I'm.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
In Orange County or actually no, I just moved, so yeah,
I'm in La County now closer, closer south.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
I think that's part of it, is that I am
constantly using the word it's all relative, because you know,
my son was with me recently. He went on tour
with me for a little bit of the summer, which
was really fun. We got to go to Omaha, Nebraska
and like Okoboji, Iowa, and all these different places that
we haven't had an opportunity to go to, and definitely
he hasn't. And but you know, we went through TSA
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at one of the airports, and this very stern, you know,
tough looking gal saw my id and looked up and
I was wearing a mask, probably took my mask down,
and she almost started crying, and she was just so
excited to meet me. She's like, oh, I'm such a
big fan. And my son kind of looked at her
and looked at me, and he had a moment of like, oh,
some people know who she is, you know, like you know,
(40:09):
they've seen a couple of concerts. But those moments are
very special when somebody really has a connection and they
get to see that, or when they're at a concert
and they hear people singing along. But it is very relative.
You know, we're at schools and in a community where
there's all different people in our community, writers, musicians, people
who work for the government, teachers, lawyers, mom's dads, you
(40:32):
name it. But there are also, yes, a lot of
actors and musicians, and some who are the most successful
musicians and the most successful actors, and they're just there.
So it's like, well, so and so is on a
private jet, or so and so is playing in that arena.
You know, you're playing in a theater for four hundred people.
So it's it's all very relative, right, you know. And
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then sometimes when I think my daughter, who's fourteen and
a half, she's really I think getting a little bit
more in tune with the fact that, you know, you're
not just a singer who might have had a song
on the radio. You actually, like, I actually am writing songs,
like and there's like this whole process and this whole
(41:15):
dream and this whole magic of going into a room
and writing a song and ideas and the start to
finish and then all the stuff that goes around it,
like you know, making artwork for the working with the artwork,
the videos, directing the videos, getting the wardrobe together, and
it's all very hands on. It always has been. I've
got great collaborators, but it's it's a very hands on process.
(41:36):
So for them to see the reality of it in
a way, it gets even more appreciation. It also takes
away some of the magic, but it is also magical,
you know, like I think, and having the opportunities like
being on not to bring it back to Fuller House again,
but being able to go to Fuller House, like wow,
you have access to go do things that like you know,
(42:00):
I know myself, when I was a kid, I would
only dream of, like wow, to be an actor, to
be in a professional place with all these people who
know what they're doing in a successful project.
Speaker 6 (42:11):
You know.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
They they they're around that all the time. My husband
works in TV also, and so they've been around it
since they were kids. But for them to understand that
it's it is still exciting and special, Like I love it.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Yeah, I'm so glad that your son got to go
on tour with you, because I think it's so important
for kids to see their parents in their workplace and
what they do. And for me, that happened when you know,
when Fuller House started because I stopped acting for ten years,
so I was a child actor, took a long break,
raised my kids as toddlers, and then started Fuller House.
(42:45):
And that once my kids started coming to the set
with me, that's when they were like, Oh, this is
actual work, Like you don't just go play make believe
like go you know, and.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
You don't just appear on TV like looking like that.
There's seven fittings for that sweatshirt, and you have to
learn your lines, and you have to get your blocking,
and there's.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Well and not just my not just my profession, but
it takes two hundred people to make a sitcom. And
so they were just blown away by just how much
work it is, not just for me, but for the
whole team that's involved in making a sitcom. So I
think that's when the respect came. Like first there was
my mom is so embarrassing, she's Kimi Giller, She's wearing
these crazy outfits. But once they came to set with me,
(43:24):
they were just like, wow, mom, this is really cool.
And then they became friends with the with the child
actors on set and hung out together and it was
just a very full circle moment for me. And that's
so cool, really glad that they got to be a
part of that. So I can appreciate your kids getting
to watch you do what you do best.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
I think it's interesting too, though, when you're when you're
when you have a job and you're a human, like
we've gotten to be humans because we get to keep
our jobs or and you took a break and you
you know from that particular job that you're a human.
And that's that's often interesting too, that that going between
(44:03):
being a mom and also a human. But also sometimes
you're really in full mom mode, you know, like you're
fully like cleaning the countertop and trying to get the
kids to go to sleep on time, and wrap up
the food and get the pets fed, and you're true
in that mode. And then you know, you take your
kids to see a concert or go to a TV
show or whatever, and it's you're you're still in mom mode.
(44:26):
But then you're yourself, and sometimes the kids get embarrassing
you be a human. I think that can be embarrassing.
They're like, oh, Mom, don't wear that shirt.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
You know it's funny what they find embarrassing And I'm like,
really like no you like you guys have no idea,
Like nobody is looking at you as carefully as you
are looking at yourself. So it's really not embarrassing my
outfits with the Kimmy Gibbler outfits, you got to own it,
you know, totally, and you don't feel embarrassed, just to be.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Like, yeah, this is me, this.
Speaker 4 (44:54):
Is And also because you do that, I mean, because
of that character, it makes it more you know, it
makes it more regular for people to be themselves. And
that's just so so important. I think it's such a
big message.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Yeah, I want to ask about your eyewear line because
I'm forty eight. I just started wearing readers this year,
because that's it's unavoidable, and so talk to me about
I think I know why you started an eyewear line
because your glasses are so iconic. But what is that like,
starting the line and designing the glasses. And my next
(45:29):
question after this is going to be what do you
recommend for me? Because I'm headed to cost so right
after this to pick.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Out a pair of forces.
Speaker 4 (45:35):
Well, first let's go backwards. First of all, when you
go to Costco. I do have my frames or at
Costco and some mom and pop stores and online. Lisa
lob By wear nice fine glasses that fit you. I
always like a lift on people. I'd have to see
you in different glasses. But since you have blonde hair,
Oh my gosh, you can wear black glasses. You can
wear dark glasses. What's also pretty? Because you've got light eyes,
(45:56):
you might want to find either a metal or a
tortoise that lets light through the materials themselves. Oh okay,
but still provide some structure because you're you're fair and
you've got blond hair. But the classes you're gonna look
cute on you, I would have to I would love
to go see them on you and see what you're
gonna wear. It was funny getting an eyewear line. You know,
(46:18):
at first, when I first started out and had some
songs on the radio, I used to people would always
I'd go on the radio and things that I thought
were like important, and I was I was a musician
and a songwriter and a guitarist. And then the first
thing people would ask me were was It wasn't usually
even a question. It was just like the glasses and
(46:38):
ask thank you, yeah, and I was so sort of about
my talent, I know, I was like, I was like,
why are they asking me about my glasses. That being said,
when I was growing up, I started wearing glasses. I
think in about six or seventh grade. I thought it
was eighth, but I saw some pictures of myself recently
and it might have been seventh or sixth I always
wanted glasses because my best friend had them since she
(46:59):
was little, so I always thought they were cool. I
never associated with them as being like a bad thing,
and then I thought they were. Being a kid of
the eighties, I would get glasses that were like alternative
and new wave and weird, and they weren't always cute
looking on me, but they were so fun to buy
and look at, and little by little I found myself
(47:19):
with more of a cat eye frame because it was flattering,
slightly kitchy. I try not to go to grandma too point,
but I've always loved glasses and they've been important to me,
and I'm very practical. I think it's so important to
be able to see if you need glasses wearing glasses, Like,
don't be one of these people who are like I
can't see anything because I wanted to look pretty because
I'm not worrying my glasses. But I'm at an event,
(47:40):
I'm like, what that doesn't you know, practicality always comes first.
So it did make sense along the way when I
finally did get an opportunity to have an eyewear line,
to do it, because at first I rejected it. I'm like,
think about my music, not my glasses. Yeah, And then
I started thinking, you know, I'm a huge fan of
Elton John and David Bowie and oh yeah, Queen and
(48:02):
Dolly Parton and all these people share who are known
for their looks and their signature looks, which they have
a lot of fun with, but they're also known seriously
for their music. So it's not an either or, And
so I finally came to terms with that and also realized,
just like I was saying about your character and your show,
people looked up to me. Little kids would say, you know,
(48:25):
moms would say, my daughter wears her glasses because you
wear your glasses on TV. Or I wear glasses and
feel comfortable in them, even though I used to feel
shy about wearing them. Now I wear them and I'm
proud to wear them. So that empowerment and the fact
that they can see, you know, I thought that would
be a great reason to have an eyewear line. And
I do have a professional designer who designs the frames,
(48:47):
but I do have regular meetings with them at my
kitchen table where we go through all the frames, we
go through the materials, we talk about what we like,
what we don't like, different adjustments that need to be
made to get the glasses and the frames to be
where they want to be. So I'm lucky to get
to be a collaborator in that process as well.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
I just got chills, like that was such a meaningful answer,
and I didn't know what you would say. I didn't
be like, well, I just wanted more cash, so I
thought I do felt.
Speaker 4 (49:13):
More cash as a mom.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
But to talk about empower making, helping people feel empowered
with an accessory or what you know, whatever it is,
I think that is just a lovely, wonderful reason to
have an eyeray line.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
That's that's great And I.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Can't wait to have my own pair of Lisa Lobe glasses.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
Yes, I mean, it's funny when you do so many
different things, and I know both of us do a
lot of different things, and definitely making a living is important.
It makes life easier and it makes it so that
you have the freedom to do what you want. But
when I'm trying to choose what I like early on
and then in the late nineties, I really took a
minute to figure out, like why am I being a musician?
(49:53):
Because there was a lot of time putting on makeup
and hair and all that stuff, the vanity stuff that's
just it can be really tough ireso and clothes and whatever.
But I'm from Dallas, so I wanted to look nice
or look whatever, like something, And I real I took
a step back, and you know, even thinking about what
other jobs do I want? What do I want to
do when I grow up? Even though I already was
(50:14):
doing something, I realized I found the value of Yeah,
that connection with people and being able to hear what
people have to say about their own lives, being able
to communicate, hang out with other people, relate to other people.
When you start looking at the values behind the opportunities
you get or that you create for yourself, it makes
(50:37):
everything so much more enjoyable and it makes it so
much easier to understand what to focus on, so that
was one of the reasons that you know, it's easy.
I was like, yeah, you know what this fits right
in having an eyewear line or continuing to make music.
I get to meet people and go do things and
travel and it's really great.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
Oh, you're such a great role model, and you're just
You're such a great friend and role model in person,
and I'm so glad that we got this opportunity to talk.
I have so many other questions for you, but I
have to wrap this up. Are there any upcoming projects
that you want to tell.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
Us about or you want to plug?
Speaker 4 (51:12):
But I will plug a brand new record I have
that came out a few weeks ago. Came out meaning digitally,
and also you can go to my Lisa Lobe official
YouTube channel and subscribe. My kids want me to have
more frewers. Subscribe, subscribe and like. But we have brand
new videos on there. It's an album called That's what
It's All About. I made it with a band called
The Hollow Trees, which is a really cute and kitchy
(51:34):
and authentic old timey band. We collaborated on this record
of a bunch of songs that I listened to growing
up with my parents and grandparents, like if I knew
you were coming, I to bake a cake or Marsy dotes.
There's a song called the doodle In Song which I
do a tap dance solo on which you have to
check out. It's not a very you know, super complicated,
(51:56):
but I do wings, which is a hard thing to do.
But anyway, that record is just out and it's family friendly.
Some might say for children, but also it's for your
grandparents and for you, and it's called That's what it's
all about. So as you know that Hokey Pokey's on
the record as well.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
Oh oh, I'm going to download this on my way
to Costco to go get my Lisa Lope glasses.
Speaker 4 (52:17):
Yes, definitely do listen to it.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
I feel very complete.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
That is so wonderful and I am so appreciative again
of your time that you've given me today. And what
an honor to be able to talk to you and
learn more about you and your wonderful career and you're
just very special to me. So thank you for doing this.
Speaker 4 (52:35):
Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Good to see you, hey.
Speaker 7 (52:40):
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Speaker 4 (52:41):
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