April 24, 2023 • 42 mins
Larger Than Life…is the only way to describe what you're about to hear between Lance and Howie Dorough! Wait until you hear about the drama that unfolded after Howie’s audition for BSB and how fate stepped in to save him.
Plus, details on a running beef with AJ, the chances of a Backstreet Boys 2.0 and (sit down for this one)…talk of a BSB & NSYNC collaboration?!!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and I Heart
radio podcast. Hello, my little Peanuts, it's me your host,
Lance Bass. This is Frosted Tips with Me Lance and
my co host, the Lovely Turkey Turchin. I think you
Lance Michael. For people that really know him, I guess
that's right. I'm Turkey, but I go by Mica. If
(00:26):
I sound like I'm sick, it's because allergies are going
nuts right now. I know. I don't know about you
where you live, but yeah, pollen is just everywhere. Yeah,
I'm allergic. They'm allergic. Oak. I think that was on
my allergy test. And I think that is an oak
thing back there?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Is that an oak?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
And there's an oak thing back there.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Also known as a tree. We have a big tree
in our backyard that could be doing it. It's I mean,
it's spring, isn't that where allergy it.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Has strong Yeah. I have to say though I've never
really tried Clairton D before. It's working.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I know welcome that.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I was always doing advo cold and sinus. Now it
doesn't really work for anymore. Maybe my body got used
to it.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It could have, but uh no, Clarton the best.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Good times, God, the things we talk about now that
we're middle aged middle ages.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
You are middle aged, Yes, you're you're You're always trying
to group me into all you right there?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
What is middle A forty? Right?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
So forty middle AIDS to me is yeah, like more
into the forties.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Okay, I'll go with that.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I'm just going to go with that.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I'll go with that. It is interesting the things we
get excited about now at this age, Like when a
delivery comes, I'm super excited.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Middle AIDS about forty five to sixty five, Like I've
always said.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
So, I'm not even I'm not even middle aged. No,
all right, I tell I literally? Did I not tell
you the other day? Forty five is when you're going
to be considered middle aged? Yeah? But I mean who
who came up with that?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I did? Apparently?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I mean and Google? Who got to decide that's the number?
Google didn't ever question no saying it was. So you
get so excited for interesting things. So delivery comes and
I'm just like, Okay, hopefully it's not laundry detergent because
that's boring.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I hate when it's what is it? Big box comes
and you're like, oh, it's.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Paper towel but we did get something. So this is
what I got excited about this week. Two packages came.
My red light therapy.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Oh that was a good one.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
It's it's great, but it's really nice anyway, but it's
a mac Daddy red light therapy.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
You turn it on and you put it on. Last night,
it was like next to the lens' side of the
bed and it was the brightest red light.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Can that can't be good for your I thought we were.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Just going to evaporate.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
When it turned off, yea, I was like, Holy, it's working.
But I don't know if my eyes are going to
survive it because I feel like it's just like damaging them.
They say it doesn't know. But when the lights turned off,
like my whole body was buzzing. Yeah. I got and
I got tired too.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
It was it was crazy. It was wow, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
And the other thing, I don't know if you've been
seeing these Facebook ads everywhere from Carraway, you know the
Carraway pot and pans. I got so excited we got
some of those because that was such an impulse by
It was the ones that the vintage and I got
the forest with the rose gold handles and I've just
I've been seeing it everywhere. Maybe you don't see it
because maybe it's just like an ad that was built
(03:24):
for me because I didn't get it and I love it.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Oh God.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
He threw away every pot and pan we had every
and now it's all color coordinated.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
It's perfectly organized. It came with storage containers and all
bake wear too. It all fits in the same space.
Is pretty much everything that I had in my kitchen.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
I know.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, so those are the things I get real excited
about these days, know about you kid wise? All right?
So the kids just are getting cuter, they really are.
They just get sweeter.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
And just just just want us eat them.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, they're they're very edible. Uh we did you know
on our day off, this is what we do now
we get go run errands. And so we needed a
dresser for the kids room because they just have this
bookshelf that now that they're starting to climb, not gonna
be good. It's bolted to the wall. But they're just
getting get into trouble with that one.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
And we have so much clothes for these kids and
we can't fit them in the closet. And now we
just like there're just there's a mountain clothes in the
room that oh my gosh. For weeks, it's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
And every time family members come it gets more because
they always my mom's always buying them clothes. Yes, we
can't even find the good stuff because it's underneath things.
So yeah, we need a big dresser. We need to
organize our stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
So we just got that.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I'm very excited. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, well then we're gonna have to unbox it and
then do all that.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Well, I love an unboxing and also he's a pyro.
We have to figured it out. He is a pyro
just like me. We were at a Mexican restaurant. So
Doctor Dre has a few restaurants here in La. Yeah,
that Doctor Dre the best sushi place I've ever been to.
It's called Tai Show. Oh my gosh, all ventur by
the way, Ventura Boulevard. If you know anything about La.
(05:06):
It's in the valley side ooh, the valley. It is
now restaurant rowe it's taken over. Every great restaurant is there.
If you like sushi, that's where you go. So Doctor
Dre opened up there because his studio's right there, the best.
And then he opened up a Mexican place across the
street called Casita. Again amazing. They bring out this cheese
that they they put on fire and then yeah, Piro
(05:29):
Alexander just went crazy. He loved it. Guys. I'm so excited,
Howie Droz on the show today. This is our second
Backstreet Boy. So let's see if the stories match, right,
Howie D. Sweet D, Sweet D. He's like so sweet. Yeah,
I'm excited to get to know him even better. So
(05:50):
let's let him in the room right now. Let's go,
Howie D. All right, let's get into it, all right,
let me do your intro and see if any of
(06:11):
this is right. Ready, here we go. Howard Dwayne Howie D.
Dureaux was born in Orlando, Florida, as the fifth and
youngest child of Paula Flores and Hoak Dwayne dureau how
He is best known as being one of the fifth
members of Backstreet Boys. How He's love and passion for
entertainment started when he was just three years old by
jumping on his grandparents' bed singing babyface with his little guitar.
(06:31):
He started performing around six or seven. After high school,
how I auditioned for the Backstree Boys, and the rest
is history. Howie d you welcome to the show.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Hey, thank you guys for having me to see both.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Of you guys. All right, how much of that was right?
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Pretty much? I'd say nine, that's a fir. I don't
know where you found that, but I'm sure you get
that myself.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I think that was teen Machine two thousand and one.
I believe that wash. Yeah, yeah, have.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
To find that my bio.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
So how we right off the bat. If you were
to text your band members right now, who would text
back first? And how quickly? And can you do it
right now so we can prove it?
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Okay, let's see see this would be a good one
group text? Who I text? So? Should I do a
group text?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
And group text? Say something generic and say and just
see who's going to respond first?
Speaker 4 (07:26):
All right, let me see it. We can get on this. Well.
Let me let me get a text that doesn't have
all management, no, just all that stuff. Kevin. Let me
see here, Kevin, what's the name of my guys in
my group?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I do that all the time, Like, what's your name again?
Speaker 4 (07:42):
If you want to ask me some more questions than me.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
But yeah, well, okay, let's do this. Well, let's start
at the beginning. You started performing at a very young age.
So what inspired that love for performing at such a
young age.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
You know what, Actually, as a little kid, I had
an older sister that's named Pollyanna.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Like you said, I'm one of five kids, and.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
I'm actually the baby, the next to the youngest, and
my brother Johnny's about ten years apart. My brothers and
sisters like to call me a Catholic. Oops, I say
the Catholic blessing to the family. But I had one
of my older sisters. Her name was Pollyanna, and she
was the true entertainer. I don't know if you remember
her back in the orlandos seen back in the days,
(08:26):
but she was the true entertainer of the family. She's
about eleven years old of me, and so she was
always on one. I was doing like beauty pages and
musicals and all that stuff during high school, and so she
would for some reason but just take me around with
her kind of almost like show and tell her. I
was like that much younger than her. I was staying
with her at you know, a church choir and they'd
have like a folk mass band and I'd be like,
(08:46):
couldn't even reach the microphone, but somehow I another I'd
memorize the word and learned how to do harmonies at
like six years old because of her just.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Hearing her doing all the time.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
And then it was about a year later she was
in the Music of the Wizard of Us and she
was Glenned the Goodwitch, and so they were looking for
a bunch of like little people to be the Munchkins,
and so they asked all the cast members if a
them have any little brothers or sisters, and coincidentally, uh,
she brought me out and then I became one of
the Lollipop Guild guys that we.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Kind of thing.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
And at that point I seemi got the bug. I
kind of was like, this is cool. I can admit
that I liked the attention that I was getting, and uh,
you know, and then from there I just I just
got lucky. I think around the age of twelve, I
was in like around.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Sixth grade, and there's this cool group of kids that
were in.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
My class in elementary school that I just wanted to
hang out with them, and they were totally into like
musical theater and drama and taking the voice lessons and
uh so they were part of this like children's you
know group troop in Orlando, and my mom just got
a hold of some of their moms and was like,
so where do you go take dances?
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Is that? Where are you taking voice? This is at?
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Where are these these musicals you're you know, your kids
are getting And so then in Orlando back and like
I said, that was back in early our late seventies,
early eighties. It was just this little, small little thing
that was going on in Orlando before, way before Universal
Studios and MGM and a stuff came around in the
Disney studios and and so I just kind of got
(10:19):
a kind of the bug at a young age and
just kind of just a little bit little just kept
on doing more and more musicals and more more auditions
for this and that, and doing the voice lessons, dance
lessons and you know always you know, coming out of Orlando.
Back in those days, like I said before, on the
studios were around. You know, in order to do any
kind of work you had to get an agent, and
mostly was all extra work because all the main actors
they were hiring at California and New York and stuff
(10:40):
like that, and so you kind of had to do
like a little bit of everything to be like a
triple threat.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
And then just coincidentally, I guess my lucky lottery ticket
was Backtraly at nineteen years old.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, well we're going to get to that, but first
you were discovered by your agent at fourteen. Landed Roles.
Tell us about what was Parenthood? About what was the storyline? Right?
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Like I say, I was in a movie called a Parenthood,
which was with Steve Baron Rick moranis it's it's it's
a it's a movie, it's a wow bucking go. It's
almost like it having like a little cult following back
in those days. And once again I just had a
glorified extra part.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
I was like, I think Rick Morana's comes in singing
to his wife in the school in Orlando Howard Middle
School coincidentally, and I was just in the front row.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Sit next to the girl who actually had lines.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
So I just got lucky that I had to live
bit of FaceTime to be because I was just lucky
to sit right.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Next to her.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
You know, I love Rick moranis like he is one
of my favorite people. And one thing I love about
him that people probably don't know. He took a twenty
year break from the entertainment industry just coming back now, Yeah,
because he I think his wife died and he was
a single dad and he had kids, and he said, no,
I want to be a present dad until they graduate
(11:50):
high school. So he took all those years off just
for his kids. Good and I believe I've heard rumors
that he does have something coming out. Yeah, sometime soon.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I know. I feel like we just discussed Maria.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, just so many time throughout the He's so great.
They had so many amazing movies.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Yeah, honey, I shrunk the kids.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I mean, Ghostbusters, I mean so many things. But I mean,
you have kids. What do you think about your kids
getting into the entertainment business, because, uh, I know some
of your guys, I mean their kids are singing already
and kind of got the bug. Do your kids have
that entertainment bug?
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Well, actually, my oldest one, James has it, but he also.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Has daddy's nerves at the same time, in anxiety, which
I will admit there was something I always had as
a little kid. That's why I said my sister was
always more of the true entertainer than I was. I'm
just lucky, and but he has the talent, and you know,
it just it kind of competes with the tablets and
all the electronic stuff that the kids are now is into.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Gaming and stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
But you know, I'm actually I'm kind of like surrendered
a little bit and said, you know, let's get him
into coding classes because nowadays these kids are so into
the gaming. I'm like, he might get have a luckier
chance of making more money and getting a break doing
something like that, and you know, trying to get in. Well,
we got the breaking being lucky.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Bye. But I gotta I gotta response from you. Who's funny?
Speaker 5 (13:16):
So I just said, I just reached out to the
guy and said, who's going to reach out to me first?
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Nick says, huhn today four.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Lost?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I love, like, oh he needs our help, guys, our help,
Oh my god. At least Phil free to respond so
they know that you're not in trouble right now.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Yeah, I'm just say he's.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Like, are you in jail?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Like I'm in a really dark place. I just need some.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Podcast. Congrats Nick, congrats.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Congrats Nick out congrats. Yeah, it's too funny now I
got them ball hit me up? What the heck is
going on.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I'm sorry, I know this your day. Offic you shouldn't
have to talk to the guys. H well one, speaking
on the guys, Congratulations on your anniversary just three days ago?
Was it your seventy fifth anniversary of Backstreet Boys? Congratulations?
Just kidding thirtieth? He was counting, like, no, it.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Did get you started.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
We started in year seventy five.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Thirty years of Backstreet Boys. All right, let's start at
the beginning because there's so many there's so many stories
about how every group started. And I think your story
is always the most confusing to me because I've heard
you know the Backstreet market. There was an audition in
the paper. A j was in the little Loo thing first,
(14:58):
and then found you at a fair when you were singing.
I don't know you were going as Dennetti. I think
at that time. There's all kinds of like little stories
go around. So tell us the true stories. How did
this happen?
Speaker 5 (15:09):
So I actually did know AJ and those early years
before we got together the group. And it's funny because
I had actually met him, like I was saying, being
in Orlando, I was working with a vocal coach who
had this little like young children's kind of show choir,
and he wanted me to come there.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
I was looking older than all of them.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
He wanted me to come there and just kind of
like give him some inspiration to sing. And I don't
know what for reason, and like I didn't have a
break yet at that point, but he wanted me to
come by and just kind of like, you know, give
him some pointers.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
And sure enough Aj was there.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
And then little about little I started noticing that, you know,
anytime maybe like a Latin you know, audition for a kid,
you know, for a movie role or singing something something
to do with the Latin person, I always saw Aj.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
I mean he's like a little tiny.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Bit a lot, but he you know, they would always
call him on him along with me. And then there
was this Latin carnival that was a big carnival festival
in Orlando at the Fairgrounds and they had like entertainment
or they had like three different stages. It was like
I want to be Orlando Paloozer or something like that.
I should try to think of it back in the days.
But they would have like a bunch of talent and
(16:16):
I was there performing by myself and also at the
same time, I had a singing partner, this girl singing partners.
We did another stage where we performed, and then AJ
was on another stage himself, and he would do this
little puppeteering opposites of tract and I just remember seeing
him always at auditions.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
He was the dorkiest kid.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
He was. He was I think he watched like staved
by the belt like one too many times, and I
think he thought he was like Zach or whatever, because
he'd always show up in this button up shirt with
a tie and have like a briefcase and stuff. I'm like,
your twelve years old kid, I'm like, what are you
doing these auditions with this crazy look on himself.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
I'm like me and talk to your mom and like
figure this out. But anyways, he.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Supposedly won somehow in that competition. In still to this day,
he like, you know, wants to throw that you know
around that he beat me originally.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
But I don't know.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
I think his mom just knew the organizer or something
like that. So much have been going on because that
I don't I don't think it was there was any
really competition at that time.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
But but yeah, no, it is. It is true that
I did know AJ in those early.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Years, and uh, Nick, like I said, I have a
strong feeling that Nick was around because he was in
Tampa at the time and there was.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Always we were all these auditions either in Orlando for movies, commercials, whatever,
or in Tampa, and so he was I think definitely around,
but he was not you know, the original uh formation,
well not say the original formation, because he was part
of the regional formation.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
He I met him once Lou had already started putting
the word out there that he wanted to put a
group together like our group in your group. And originally
for me, it was kind of crazy because I came
in with that name that AJ claims, the Tony Dennetty names.
I had a stage name in those early years with
a manager that just thought Howard Dureau was not the coolest.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Did he want you to be Italian?
Speaker 4 (18:04):
So yeah, so I'm actually half Irish, half Puerto Rican
and he made me Italian. I don't know that knows,
I don't you know.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
But yeah, so I auditioned, like I say, for a
lot of different things at that time, like mickey Mouth
Club was really close to me, and that earlierly years before,
justin all of them came along later. But like I say, uh,
A J and I uh were we had well, I'd
actually I take it back a little bit. I went
to this audition. I was in Puerto Rico and I
went this audition on my own. When I came back home,
(18:34):
I had missed the the cattle call I guess you
would call it. And but somehow another my dad was
able to get a hold of lou Pearlman or whoever
I think it was Lauri's Nacholi at the time, who
had gotten my picture from the local community theater and
I got an audition at his house.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
I went to his house. I remember, probably like you guys,
first time seeing his house, Like I hadn't seen anything
like that, like Rolls, Roy and Limos.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
I was like, oh man, I got close to being
in the Noodo a couple of years earlier, but that
didn't work out.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
But I'm like, this might be my lucky break.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
And I auditioned and they said like they're like, we
love you, we'd like to be a part of this group.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
We have this kid named A J. McLean. I'm like, oh, yeah,
I know a J. I'm like, god, I kid, I
know M's see where every where I go.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah, I like he beat me at that. Yeah, and
he still thinks that.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
He still claims to think that he beat me at
this clap carnival thing. I'm sure he probably told you that,
but but I uh, they said, we went, we're gonna
do some more audition, and we'd like, uh, you will
probably hit you back up in three months from now
once we did an audition, and so I went by
three months, four months went by.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
I didn't hear anything.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
And it was coincidentally a person I was working with
in town was like, hey, I heard about this, you know,
kind of audition for this new kids in the blacking.
I was like, I think I've already been and I'm like,
they would have called me by now, and uh like
just go and just going. I'm like, all right, I went,
and sure enough I got lost. I was like forty five.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Minutes late for the audition, and I'm like, I don't
like to be you know.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
I'm always apologizing if I'm not on time, there's a
good reason, but for me just to get lost, I
didn't want to, you know, go there and put my
head between my legs and be like sorry kind of
a thing, and so I did something told me go
like five more minutes more. My faith said go and
just you know if you get if you don't find
the next five minutes, take your sorry ass home and
you know. And it wasn't meant to be, and fate
(20:16):
had it. Within five minutes, I found the spot they
air gondola, and I'm sure you knew all about as
well in those early years, and that's why I did
my audition. They were like Tony, I saw a first,
I'm like, is that kid again? And I'm like like,
like Tony, like we've.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Been missing you, like we missed you? Like how did
you know what happened? They lost my picture? And back
in those days, like I was saying ninety three, there
wasn't the internet, there wasn't any way to find anybody.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
It was just the phone book.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
And it was a fictitious name. So but it was
just like it was crazy, it was meant to be.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
It was fake.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
And so I literally quickly got rid of that Tony
didnetdy name because I knew it almost cost me and
I went to Howie Durou and then a little bit
little I'm sure you probably heard, there was a couple
other guys that came and went within the group, guy Charles,
a guy named Sam Macatta, and so then little by
little Kevin came in and then Brian was a last
(21:09):
Remember that came on in Wow.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
With Sam and Charles. Did you ever run into them
in the future after that? I mean, because they were
probably in it for like what a day.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Well, it's quite funny because I know, you know that
I knew Chris from.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Well, I was gonna bring that up y'all if y'all
went to college together, and I want to hear, like
what the truth was there too, because the story is
from Chris that y'all sing in choir together and that
he found out that you you know, got into this
group actually boys, and then he was pissed. He's like,
wait a minute, what, I didn't know there was an audition?
How is in there? I could be in the group.
And so that's when he went to Lou was like, well,
(21:44):
can I put a group together? And Lou was like, sure,
you can put a group together? So is that is
that how it went down?
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Well, it's interesting you say that because I've never I've
hadn't had a chance to sit down with Chris to
actually talk one on one on how it all transpired, therapist.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
So thank you, thank you.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Thank you can give me the story. You probably know
a way better than me. So yeah, So stepping back
to the second, it's kind of crazy how not only
did I know Chris before the group when the group
was starting, but I also knew Charles. Charles and I
were in choir at USF and Tampa coincidentally, we were
in a gospel choir together there, and so when he
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got in the group, I was like, dude, I know,
you know, like we just went and I came back
home that following year of Lyndsay Community College. I was
at a scholarship from my academics and everything to go there.
But I was like, I totally knew this guy, and
it was like it was it was so strange. And then,
like I say, there was a like I said to
you a little earlier, we had a couple of members
come and go that didn't work out, and so at
the time we were looking for a blonde hair guy
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and so we were like it was like Lou was
like everybody reached out to your your friends, you know, whoever,
you know that I have some talent, and so I
reached out to Charles, who was funny because I was like,
it was Charles, I just joined this community choir that
Charles and Chris were already a part of.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
It was like I said, it was my second semester
of my second year.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
So they had already been formed together a year and
a half before that, and so I had joined they
already had like their formation and everything. I just got
plopped right in the middle between Charles and and Chris
and I got to know them like they were, like
I said, great, great guys. And so I just knowing
how they wanted a blonde hair got I looked to
my left because Chris k Patrick had brown here a
little bit, you know, more like my look, and so
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we were looking for a blonde hair guy. So I told,
you know, Charles, and he actually was in. He made
it in the group, and somehow or other, it got
back to us from some of the early producers that
I'm sure you guys worked with as well in.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
The early years, that his voice just wasn't cutting it.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
And we were so young and naive we didn't understand
what was going on, but you know, we were we obviously,
you know, wanted to still stay together group, and we
were at a bond with him, but at the same time,
you know, we had to follow what was being you know,
advised to us at that time, and so, but we
always felt bad for him. So we told Lou, we said,
do whatever you can for this guy, Charles, if he
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needs to be a solo artist, help him whatever way
you can. And then from there, the crazy thing was,
we didn't really bump into Charles that much. And then
I remember one day seeing Chris, Lou took us, we
came back, I don't know, we were in Europe somewhere.
We came back home and Luke took us out for
dinner and we were at outback steakhouse and I'll never forget.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Olson comes up. Chris Kirkpatrick is our waiter, and I'm
like Chris, I'm like, dude, I'm like, what are you
doing here? And he knew Lou, and so I never, like,
we didn't know what was how he knew Lou.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
But all I could think of was that maybe he
had worked, you know, maybe Charles had put back together
their barbershop quartet that they originally had.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
And so then.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
From there, like I said a little bit a little
later on, I found out that it was that he
was the I didn't know how you guys had actually
came together. I didn't know if it was from Justin
and JC or well. And eventually I found it it
was actually from Chris, is what I was told. Don't
you know you can you can confirm that for sure.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
You know I can confirm it. Basically, you are the
reason that in Sync is around. Say, it's funny because
I have I have Actually you created a b you
created this.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Chris said that to me.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
He's like, dude, if you would let me audition for
your group, He's like, you know what, instinct might not
have been around here?
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Like that's good man, it's great.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
I'm I think everything happened for the totally for the
reason that we were all meant to be out there
together encouraging each other, you know.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
And that's what I said, the competition exactly.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
I think.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I think without that friendly competition, I don't think lou
Problem was smart enough to know that it's you know,
I think it's just naturally formed, this competition between the
fandoms out there, which would be fun, but it kept
us on our toes. We would not have gotten better
and better if it wasn't for you guys. And I
just think, let's let's try to outdo each other every time.
(25:59):
And I think that's what made it so big at.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
It's it's just keeps on history, keeps on repeating itself,
like a Brittany and Christina, Enrique and Ricky.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
You know, it's like always.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Here's those you know, Whitney, Yes, if not.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
I think a lot of artists get complacent and they
just start to think that they're bigger than don't need
to grow to get complacent.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
How this is a teen idol show. When you were
a teen or preteen? Who was your.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
You know what?
Speaker 5 (26:41):
I can definitely say Michael Jackson. I was a huge
fan of Michael Jackson as a little kid. And then uh,
Bobby Brown, believe or not. My audition for the group
was with Bobby Brown. My prerogative, yes, and and believe
or not, I will say uh when I'm younger. I
did send in a cassette tape into the fan club
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of the new Kids of the Block.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
I'm sure I don't even know if they probably.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
Went like in and out to a dumpster, but but
I did send a cassette, you know, tape of myself
singing because I was like, if this is what's going on.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
These guys got it going on.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
They got like, you know, attention and everything, and I
was like, I want that. I never first saw myself though,
being in a group, believe or not. Even though I
had audition, you know, I sent out a tape to them,
and I got close to being in Menudo when I
was around fourteen years old, but the fact that I
didn't know Spanish, I didn't make it in the group.
But I literally sang in front of Ricky Martin and
audition as far as I could until they finally like,
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we love you.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
But unfortunate Spanish fluently and this is a Spanish group,
so not gonna exactly work out.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I think they for you.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
I'm not too mad about it all worked out, but
I believe I believe or not. As honestly, as a
little kid and a teenager, I never saw myself being
in a group. I you know, I had the closest
thing I had was a female duet partner. But and
you know, and even in the early years, like I
don't know how it was for you guys, but being
a group for me, there was definitely some growing pains
because I had never really truly played like organized sports
(28:12):
and being a part of a team and understanding and
and you know, not getting your feelings hurt if somebody
says this or I'm like, you know, I'm definitely a
sensitive guy. That it was. You know, it was definitely
a challenge in the early years of saying is this
what fate had for me?
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Planned? But very blessed that it did work out.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
But it's true. And and to me, I'm the opposite. See,
I was built for team sports.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
It's like I was, you know, show choirs and it
just I was in quartets. I was my first boy
band was it's called Seven Cards stund there were seven
of us and you know, and I was the basinger.
So I never thought I could do anything solo, like
I was a base part of a group. But you're right.
But the sensitivity part, because I'm the sensitive one too,
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that's me. I love the team sport. It was great,
but I did have to get over the fact that,
you know, my opinion here and people would like shoot
it down and like basically yell at me because of
my opinion. It would hurt my feelings as a sixteen
year old, I'm like, oh they hate oh God. So
that was definitely the big part that I had to
get over was like taking other people's opinions all myself
(29:16):
and negative apparently that was it made me cry sometimes.
I just think it's really great that, you know, Manudo
has has kept this. I don't know how many iterations
they've had in the last thirty years. Many when you
guys are ready to you know, retire, call it quit,
say you're you're in the eighties or nineties, would y'all
(29:39):
ever take the Backstreet brand and do a Mnudo thing?
Speaker 5 (29:44):
That's interesting? That would be interesting. I don't know, you know,
it's just funny because we've talked, you know, like what
if our kids, Yeah, you know that were to form
a group, like you know, Kevin has two boys, I
have two boys.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
You know, that's never how far for right, you know.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
I don't know if I'm just putting.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
That out there, I don't know if it would ever
come to a fruition, But you know, something like that
I could see being a cool twist on it.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah, keep it in the family, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Something like that.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
I don't know if I don't know if any of
them and by that time, they're going to be all
like dads having their own kids and probably the grandkids
at that time.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Maybe you're we're in the eighties right, what do you
see your future? Because I mean you y'all been on
this tour for quite a while now. I've seen your residency,
I've seen this tour. I mean y'all have y'all have
been working. I feel like you are just at at
your peak right now, like of all your career. I
think y'all are just right there.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I mean everyone's talking about the backshit boys and so
many years later. What why do you think that is?
Why do you think that your fans have just stuck
with you and that you are still you know, headline news.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
You know what I think, dude, I think we both
came from, you know, an era that was I think
I feel like some of the true last years of that,
you know, making of a group, whether you have the
fans that are just invested, you know the fact that
we were like the last ones to go out there
(31:22):
and truly you know, go around the world and truly
do the graph roots approach of going to all these
different countries and you know, and having success sometimes in
a lot of those other places before even our homeland
and planting those roots.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
I think it's the biggest reason why we've been able
to have the same power.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
And like I said, I always you know, I've bumping
to Joey and stuff like that, and I'm always encouraging them,
like dude, I'm like, get together, whatever it is, whatever
kind of formation. There's fans out there for us, and
you know they're they're there, they love us, they they're
just they can't get enough of, you know, bringing them
back to those memories that we all created.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
And I've never really thought about that, but it is
more of a personal relationship with your fans. When you
did start in all these different countries, face to face
with them, going to every single radio station, you know,
them camped out at the hotels. You got to know
the fans. These days, it's all just social media, so
you're not besides a DM but how many people are
dming people. But it's just you don't have that connection
(32:19):
like we did. And I know we both started in Germany.
You guys were just the Beatles in Germany when we
started over there. And I don't know if y'all went
through the same thing, but you know, you'd be so
big in Germany, cover of every magazine, number one album,
and then you come back to America and like no
one knew who you were at all. Is that what
you all experienced at the beginning to.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Oh absolutely, man, we used to call America no family. Yeah,
it'd be like we've come back, you know, just like
you guys, you know, being crazy mom at the airports
and stuff like that, and you get up in Atlanta
Executive Airport and.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Like, I know, come in like there's scratches on your arms,
you know from like girls like trying to rip you apart.
And then you come back. I swear this is from
a girl scratching.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Yeah, that must be so wild. You're like a superstar
just right now. And then you just go on a
plane and it's like it never happened.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
I don't know about you guys, but I remember for me,
like I had like, okay, well if this is what
it is and we never have success in our home.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
I was like, this is this is a great gig.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
I'm like, you know, I think all of us you
can't help but to want to have success in your homeland.
Then you feel like, okay, everything you've you've told everybody
about it. They can see a face and face versus
trying to bring home. Like like you said, a German
magazine in the middle is like pornography almost because they're
like touching sex education over there.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
And then in the time I learned everything about sex
the German magazine magazine, my.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Mom will be like, what are you doing over there?
We're going to church right now? Education, yeah, and so.
But but you know, I think it's like, you know,
coming back home. I think I think we can all
test for that. It was like you didn't really feel
like you made it properly until you had. We had successful.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
It's true because you would do things like Vettan DAWs
and all these like huge, huge shows over in Europe,
but you didn't grow up on that, so you don't
know how big that is. But you know, the Jay
Leno's of the world and the Saturday Night Lives, Oh, Charley,
that's what you just want. That's your valid awards.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Yeah, American Music Awards and the Grammys. I know we
all grew.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Up on exactly. And now looking like now, I mean,
I'm glad that we made in America, and you know,
we never really toured around the world after we came
to America. But uh, people like Robbie Williams, for instance,
I think lives a great life because everywhere in the
world Robbie Williams is absolutely huge, but he never really
did much in America and he lives here now, and
I think that was on purpose, so he could actually
(34:44):
have more of a life here right in America and
not just really bombarded wherever he goes.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Right.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
So I think that's good. You do want America, it
is the number one market.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
I mean, you get it, but there is a nice
overlining in it.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
That's true.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
I thought about that too, and I was like, Okay, well,
if I ended up having to relocate over here and
you know, fly back home every so often, create a
family over in Germany.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
And oh yeah, well you Deutsch Arkansas and Beech and Deutsche. Uh.
So you travel obviously around the world many, many, many
many times. You do. You're doing a food to every
every city you go to. Now, I think you find
a local restaurant, right and you do a like a
little a food show. Tell us about that.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's kind of funny.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
I mean, the one thing one of the many things,
but one of the big things that I feel like
when I'm traveling, uh, I come alive with just the
food and the culture.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
I don't know about how for you guys with some
of our some of our guys.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
In the group would be like baby home and maybe
at the hotel and they're like just watching you know,
TV and ordering McDonald's. I was like, that's not me.
I'm going out. I want to try the Vener Snittles.
I want to try to pay a ya wherever I am.
And I think it's because I know it's maybe because
I just grew up with you know, my dad being
you know, Irish Scottish Scandinavian and my mother being Puerto Rican.
(36:00):
I just grew up with a lot of like you know,
mixing of foods, and so when I would travel, like
my teams, person would just come alive.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
And so then, you know, probably about I don't know,
maybe eight years.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
Ago, maybe take a last tour, maybe the tour before that,
I started taking pictures of like places I was going to,
and uh, you know, because little I've always had this
thought of doing like a eventually like a travel show
or a food show, just like you know, giving people
the experiences that we get to channel the experience we're
out on tour, you know, and just be like, yo,
when you're here in this town, this is the cool place.
(36:31):
You got to try this food here Anthony Bourdain kind
of a thing, you know. Uh, you know, I try this,
and you know this is the cool night light spots,
you know, night life and.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
Just you know, if you want to go to you know,
see the Cristo on you know in Brazil, you experience
at all.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
And so I started doing a lot of pictures of
these of these amazing meals I was having having and
we called it how He Eats. And then I started
getting so many responses back from the fans and they're.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Like, would you be willing to like eat with me somewhere,
I guess.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
And I was like, you know what, I'm like, this
is something interesting here, I said, you know, I cause
I feel like you know, all of us over the years,
I'm sure you're doing it yourself soul wise, like a
lot of our fans are besides just wanting to have
that experience with the group, they just want to have
sometimes experiences with us individually. And sometimes these individual experiences,
whether it's a meet and greet or I know, sometimes
(37:21):
there's the comic cons that are you know, people doing
stuff like that where they get it cances just to
get to know each of us just a little bit
better than they would have just what they perceive us
up on stage. And so I would create these how
we events, And you know, I always always told the fans,
I said, you know, for me, you know, the best
way to get to somebody's heart is through the stomach,
you know. And and so I said, you know, and
(37:42):
for me, food is all about family. And I feel like,
like we talked about earlier, we've known some of these
fands for so many years. They've almost become like a
second family to us, you know, especially when we're not
able to be with our families back home.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
They are the closest thing to family.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
And so I love, you know, in somebody these places,
I'm like bringing people like I'm sure you guys remember
that you'd have fans are be coming from you'd be
in you know, Brazil, but you have fans are be
coming over to see you from Japan or from you know,
from Russians to events, so it would almost like bring
people together. And I feel like, you know, it was
a way to create, Like like we're all eating together
and everybody's getting to know each other. They're not only
(38:16):
getting to know me, but they're also getting to know
each other, and they're like they're almost like creating like
new best friends, like you know, friends and partners in life.
Because I'm sure you know, like there's probably been a
numpti million stories that you've heard where I met my
best friend at a concert.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Because of you guys.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
I met my husband or my wife because of you
guys in the experience that you brought us together, just
because of us being fans of your music, and so
it's like it's just it's just another way I think
to bring people together.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
And you know what, what better way for me than
to do it over food?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
No, it's great. I mean I'm such a foodie, so
I love stuff like that. And yes, I'm like you
when I go to a different place, i want to
just find the best restaurant, the best food get even
if I'm not like at that type of food. I'm
going to experience everywhere and shout out to the fans
because you're right, so we're gonna do it together. Some
of these fans really just travel wherever you go, and
I find I don't know about your group, but I
(39:05):
find the Philippines, Germany and Spanish fans are the ones
that I see in different countries all the time. I
don't know some of those three countries that they really
they come out to see. Yeah, so especially resilions. Oh yeah,
Brazilians and y'all just down. Did y'all just do Rock
and Rio? Or y'all were just down and or do
(39:26):
you're just doing your own tour down in Rio? Right?
Speaker 4 (39:28):
We did you guys?
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Did you guys did like so long ago? Oh my gosh, Yeah,
I haven't even done that yet.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
It's not look, it's it's it's scary. I have to say.
It was the first time I felt really intimidated about
doing a show because it's just like it was very strange.
And the whole time they're like, you know, just stay calm,
this is normal. I'm like, okay, but we're having a
police escort. But the police escort got pulled over by
the federal is like, who's in charge? Who's in charge?
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Yeah? You know, you know who to trust? What's going on? Right?
Speaker 1 (40:03):
If there was a place around the world that you
would just move the family to right now, where would
you live? Hm?
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Wow, that is a really good one, you know what
I mean. I love the food all over Europe, I
mean Italy, Spain, even like Sweden. I love the just
the scenery of the countryside there in Sweden. But I
can definitely say I've become a huge fan of Australia,
(40:31):
New Zealand, Sydney, Australia to me is just right out
there and Auckland, New Zealand. They both go ahead and
they go neck to neck on just just the scenery
and everything cool.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
New Zealand scene. Australia always well, I thought my number
one because I was like, if I've moved the family,
you know, says you know, America just keeps falling down
the hill. Uh. I always love the Scandinavian countries right, Denmark, Finland,
just the happiest places in the world. But the problem
(41:06):
is it's too cold for me. I need heat. I
need heat. So my next would be, yeah, Bondi, Sydney,
somewhere in Australia. I think the people in Australia are
just the best people ever. It's speak the language, yes,
you can actually communicate, and it's a little expensive there
you Australians. That's place and it is halfway around the world,
(41:30):
so it would not be very but man I would
live there in a heartbeat. A heartbeat, all right. Guys,
that went really long. I love when to go long
because that just means it's so interesting. So this is
gonna be a two for for sure. So we're gonna
split this up a little bit. We'll put the second
half up later on in the week somehow around there,
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I sound like I'm sick, it's because allergies are going
nuts right now. I know. I don't know about you
where you live, but yeah, pollen is just everywhere. Yeah,
I'm allergic. They'm allergic. Oak. I think that was on
my allergy test. And I think that is an oak
thing back there?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Is that an oak?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
And there's an oak thing back there.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Also known as a tree. We have a big tree
in our backyard that could be doing it. It's I mean,
it's spring, isn't that where allergy it.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Has strong Yeah. I have to say though I've never
really tried Clairton D before. It's working.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I know welcome that.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I was always doing advo cold and sinus. Now it
doesn't really work for anymore. Maybe my body got used
to it.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It could have, but uh no, Clarton the best.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Good times, God, the things we talk about now that
we're middle aged middle ages.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
You are middle aged, Yes, you're you're You're always trying
to group me into all you right there?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
What is middle A forty? Right?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
So forty middle AIDS to me is yeah, like more
into the forties.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Okay, I'll go with that.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I'm just going to go with that.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I'll go with that. It is interesting the things we
get excited about now at this age, Like when a
delivery comes, I'm super excited.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Middle AIDS about forty five to sixty five, Like I've
always said.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
So, I'm not even I'm not even middle aged. No,
all right, I tell I literally? Did I not tell
you the other day? Forty five is when you're going
to be considered middle aged? Yeah? But I mean who
who came up with that?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I did? Apparently?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I mean and Google? Who got to decide that's the number?
Google didn't ever question no saying it was. So you
get so excited for interesting things. So delivery comes and
I'm just like, Okay, hopefully it's not laundry detergent because
that's boring.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I hate when it's what is it? Big box comes
and you're like, oh, it's.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Paper towel but we did get something. So this is
what I got excited about this week. Two packages came.
My red light therapy.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Oh that was a good one.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
It's it's great, but it's really nice anyway, but it's
a mac Daddy red light therapy.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
You turn it on and you put it on. Last night,
it was like next to the lens' side of the
bed and it was the brightest red light.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Can that can't be good for your I thought we were.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Just going to evaporate.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
When it turned off, yea, I was like, Holy, it's working.
But I don't know if my eyes are going to
survive it because I feel like it's just like damaging them.
They say it doesn't know. But when the lights turned off,
like my whole body was buzzing. Yeah. I got and
I got tired too.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
It was it was crazy. It was wow, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
And the other thing, I don't know if you've been
seeing these Facebook ads everywhere from Carraway, you know the
Carraway pot and pans. I got so excited we got
some of those because that was such an impulse by
It was the ones that the vintage and I got
the forest with the rose gold handles and I've just
I've been seeing it everywhere. Maybe you don't see it
because maybe it's just like an ad that was built
(03:24):
for me because I didn't get it and I love it.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Oh God.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
He threw away every pot and pan we had every
and now it's all color coordinated.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
It's perfectly organized. It came with storage containers and all
bake wear too. It all fits in the same space.
Is pretty much everything that I had in my kitchen.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
I know.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, so those are the things I get real excited
about these days, know about you kid wise? All right?
So the kids just are getting cuter, they really are.
They just get sweeter.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
And just just just want us eat them.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, they're they're very edible. Uh we did you know
on our day off, this is what we do now
we get go run errands. And so we needed a
dresser for the kids room because they just have this
bookshelf that now that they're starting to climb, not gonna
be good. It's bolted to the wall. But they're just
getting get into trouble with that one.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
And we have so much clothes for these kids and
we can't fit them in the closet. And now we
just like there're just there's a mountain clothes in the
room that oh my gosh. For weeks, it's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
And every time family members come it gets more because
they always my mom's always buying them clothes. Yes, we
can't even find the good stuff because it's underneath things.
So yeah, we need a big dresser. We need to
organize our stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
So we just got that.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I'm very excited. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, well then we're gonna have to unbox it and
then do all that.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Well, I love an unboxing and also he's a pyro.
We have to figured it out. He is a pyro
just like me. We were at a Mexican restaurant. So
Doctor Dre has a few restaurants here in La. Yeah,
that Doctor Dre the best sushi place I've ever been to.
It's called Tai Show. Oh my gosh, all ventur by
the way, Ventura Boulevard. If you know anything about La.
(05:06):
It's in the valley side ooh, the valley. It is
now restaurant rowe it's taken over. Every great restaurant is there.
If you like sushi, that's where you go. So Doctor
Dre opened up there because his studio's right there, the best.
And then he opened up a Mexican place across the
street called Casita. Again amazing. They bring out this cheese
that they they put on fire and then yeah, Piro
(05:29):
Alexander just went crazy. He loved it. Guys. I'm so excited,
Howie Droz on the show today. This is our second
Backstreet Boy. So let's see if the stories match, right,
Howie D. Sweet D, Sweet D. He's like so sweet. Yeah,
I'm excited to get to know him even better. So
(05:50):
let's let him in the room right now. Let's go,
Howie D. All right, let's get into it, all right,
let me do your intro and see if any of
(06:11):
this is right. Ready, here we go. Howard Dwayne Howie D.
Dureaux was born in Orlando, Florida, as the fifth and
youngest child of Paula Flores and Hoak Dwayne dureau how
He is best known as being one of the fifth
members of Backstreet Boys. How He's love and passion for
entertainment started when he was just three years old by
jumping on his grandparents' bed singing babyface with his little guitar.
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He started performing around six or seven. After high school,
how I auditioned for the Backstree Boys, and the rest
is history. Howie d you welcome to the show.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Hey, thank you guys for having me to see both.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Of you guys. All right, how much of that was right?
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Pretty much? I'd say nine, that's a fir. I don't
know where you found that, but I'm sure you get
that myself.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I think that was teen Machine two thousand and one.
I believe that wash. Yeah, yeah, have.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
To find that my bio.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
So how we right off the bat. If you were
to text your band members right now, who would text
back first? And how quickly? And can you do it
right now so we can prove it?
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Okay, let's see see this would be a good one
group text? Who I text? So? Should I do a
group text?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
And group text? Say something generic and say and just
see who's going to respond first?
Speaker 4 (07:26):
All right, let me see it. We can get on this. Well.
Let me let me get a text that doesn't have
all management, no, just all that stuff. Kevin. Let me
see here, Kevin, what's the name of my guys in
my group?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I do that all the time, Like, what's your name again?
Speaker 4 (07:42):
If you want to ask me some more questions than me.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
But yeah, well, okay, let's do this. Well, let's start
at the beginning. You started performing at a very young age.
So what inspired that love for performing at such a
young age.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
You know what, Actually, as a little kid, I had
an older sister that's named Pollyanna.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Like you said, I'm one of five kids, and.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
I'm actually the baby, the next to the youngest, and
my brother Johnny's about ten years apart. My brothers and
sisters like to call me a Catholic. Oops, I say
the Catholic blessing to the family. But I had one
of my older sisters. Her name was Pollyanna, and she
was the true entertainer. I don't know if you remember
her back in the orlandos seen back in the days,
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but she was the true entertainer of the family. She's
about eleven years old of me, and so she was
always on one. I was doing like beauty pages and
musicals and all that stuff during high school, and so she
would for some reason but just take me around with
her kind of almost like show and tell her. I
was like that much younger than her. I was staying
with her at you know, a church choir and they'd
have like a folk mass band and I'd be like,
(08:46):
couldn't even reach the microphone, but somehow I another I'd
memorize the word and learned how to do harmonies at
like six years old because of her just.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Hearing her doing all the time.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
And then it was about a year later she was
in the Music of the Wizard of Us and she
was Glenned the Goodwitch, and so they were looking for
a bunch of like little people to be the Munchkins,
and so they asked all the cast members if a
them have any little brothers or sisters, and coincidentally, uh,
she brought me out and then I became one of
the Lollipop Guild guys that we.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Kind of thing.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
And at that point I seemi got the bug. I
kind of was like, this is cool. I can admit
that I liked the attention that I was getting, and uh,
you know, and then from there I just I just
got lucky. I think around the age of twelve, I
was in like around.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Sixth grade, and there's this cool group of kids that
were in.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
My class in elementary school that I just wanted to
hang out with them, and they were totally into like
musical theater and drama and taking the voice lessons and
uh so they were part of this like children's you
know group troop in Orlando, and my mom just got
a hold of some of their moms and was like,
so where do you go take dances?
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Is that? Where are you taking voice? This is at?
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Where are these these musicals you're you know, your kids
are getting And so then in Orlando back and like
I said, that was back in early our late seventies,
early eighties. It was just this little, small little thing
that was going on in Orlando before, way before Universal
Studios and MGM and a stuff came around in the
Disney studios and and so I just kind of got
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a kind of the bug at a young age and
just kind of just a little bit little just kept
on doing more and more musicals and more more auditions
for this and that, and doing the voice lessons, dance
lessons and you know always you know, coming out of Orlando.
Back in those days, like I said before, on the
studios were around. You know, in order to do any
kind of work you had to get an agent, and
mostly was all extra work because all the main actors
they were hiring at California and New York and stuff
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like that, and so you kind of had to do
like a little bit of everything to be like a
triple threat.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
And then just coincidentally, I guess my lucky lottery ticket
was Backtraly at nineteen years old.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, well we're going to get to that, but first
you were discovered by your agent at fourteen. Landed Roles.
Tell us about what was Parenthood? About what was the storyline? Right?
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Like I say, I was in a movie called a Parenthood,
which was with Steve Baron Rick moranis it's it's it's
a it's a movie, it's a wow bucking go. It's
almost like it having like a little cult following back
in those days. And once again I just had a
glorified extra part.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
I was like, I think Rick Morana's comes in singing
to his wife in the school in Orlando Howard Middle
School coincidentally, and I was just in the front row.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Sit next to the girl who actually had lines.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
So I just got lucky that I had to live
bit of FaceTime to be because I was just lucky
to sit right.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Next to her.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
You know, I love Rick moranis like he is one
of my favorite people. And one thing I love about
him that people probably don't know. He took a twenty
year break from the entertainment industry just coming back now, Yeah,
because he I think his wife died and he was
a single dad and he had kids, and he said, no,
I want to be a present dad until they graduate
(11:50):
high school. So he took all those years off just
for his kids. Good and I believe I've heard rumors
that he does have something coming out. Yeah, sometime soon.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I know. I feel like we just discussed Maria.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, just so many time throughout the He's so great.
They had so many amazing movies.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Yeah, honey, I shrunk the kids.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I mean, Ghostbusters, I mean so many things. But I mean,
you have kids. What do you think about your kids
getting into the entertainment business, because, uh, I know some
of your guys, I mean their kids are singing already
and kind of got the bug. Do your kids have
that entertainment bug?
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Well, actually, my oldest one, James has it, but he also.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Has daddy's nerves at the same time, in anxiety, which
I will admit there was something I always had as
a little kid. That's why I said my sister was
always more of the true entertainer than I was. I'm
just lucky, and but he has the talent, and you know,
it just it kind of competes with the tablets and
all the electronic stuff that the kids are now is into.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Gaming and stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
But you know, I'm actually I'm kind of like surrendered
a little bit and said, you know, let's get him
into coding classes because nowadays these kids are so into
the gaming. I'm like, he might get have a luckier
chance of making more money and getting a break doing
something like that, and you know, trying to get in. Well,
we got the breaking being lucky.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Bye. But I gotta I gotta response from you. Who's funny?
Speaker 5 (13:16):
So I just said, I just reached out to the
guy and said, who's going to reach out to me first?
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Nick says, huhn today four.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Lost?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I love, like, oh he needs our help, guys, our help,
Oh my god. At least Phil free to respond so
they know that you're not in trouble right now.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Yeah, I'm just say he's.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Like, are you in jail?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Like I'm in a really dark place. I just need some.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Podcast. Congrats Nick, congrats.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Congrats Nick out congrats. Yeah, it's too funny now I
got them ball hit me up? What the heck is
going on.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I'm sorry, I know this your day. Offic you shouldn't
have to talk to the guys. H well one, speaking
on the guys, Congratulations on your anniversary just three days ago?
Was it your seventy fifth anniversary of Backstreet Boys? Congratulations?
Just kidding thirtieth? He was counting, like, no, it.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Did get you started.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
We started in year seventy five.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Thirty years of Backstreet Boys. All right, let's start at
the beginning because there's so many there's so many stories
about how every group started. And I think your story
is always the most confusing to me because I've heard
you know the Backstreet market. There was an audition in
the paper. A j was in the little Loo thing first,
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and then found you at a fair when you were singing.
I don't know you were going as Dennetti. I think
at that time. There's all kinds of like little stories
go around. So tell us the true stories. How did
this happen?
Speaker 5 (15:09):
So I actually did know AJ and those early years
before we got together the group. And it's funny because
I had actually met him, like I was saying, being
in Orlando, I was working with a vocal coach who
had this little like young children's kind of show choir,
and he wanted me to come there.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
I was looking older than all of them.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
He wanted me to come there and just kind of
like give him some inspiration to sing. And I don't
know what for reason, and like I didn't have a
break yet at that point, but he wanted me to
come by and just kind of like, you know, give
him some pointers.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
And sure enough Aj was there.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
And then little about little I started noticing that, you know,
anytime maybe like a Latin you know, audition for a kid,
you know, for a movie role or singing something something
to do with the Latin person, I always saw Aj.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
I mean he's like a little tiny.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Bit a lot, but he you know, they would always
call him on him along with me. And then there
was this Latin carnival that was a big carnival festival
in Orlando at the Fairgrounds and they had like entertainment
or they had like three different stages. It was like
I want to be Orlando Paloozer or something like that.
I should try to think of it back in the days.
But they would have like a bunch of talent and
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I was there performing by myself and also at the
same time, I had a singing partner, this girl singing partners.
We did another stage where we performed, and then AJ
was on another stage himself, and he would do this
little puppeteering opposites of tract and I just remember seeing
him always at auditions.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
He was the dorkiest kid.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
He was. He was I think he watched like staved
by the belt like one too many times, and I
think he thought he was like Zach or whatever, because
he'd always show up in this button up shirt with
a tie and have like a briefcase and stuff. I'm like,
your twelve years old kid, I'm like, what are you
doing these auditions with this crazy look on himself.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
I'm like me and talk to your mom and like
figure this out. But anyways, he.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Supposedly won somehow in that competition. In still to this day,
he like, you know, wants to throw that you know
around that he beat me originally.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
But I don't know.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
I think his mom just knew the organizer or something
like that. So much have been going on because that
I don't I don't think it was there was any
really competition at that time.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
But but yeah, no, it is. It is true that
I did know AJ in those early.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Years, and uh, Nick, like I said, I have a
strong feeling that Nick was around because he was in
Tampa at the time and there was.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Always we were all these auditions either in Orlando for movies, commercials, whatever,
or in Tampa, and so he was I think definitely around,
but he was not you know, the original uh formation,
well not say the original formation, because he was part
of the regional formation.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
He I met him once Lou had already started putting
the word out there that he wanted to put a
group together like our group in your group. And originally
for me, it was kind of crazy because I came
in with that name that AJ claims, the Tony Dennetty names.
I had a stage name in those early years with
a manager that just thought Howard Dureau was not the coolest.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Did he want you to be Italian?
Speaker 4 (18:04):
So yeah, so I'm actually half Irish, half Puerto Rican
and he made me Italian. I don't know that knows,
I don't you know.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
But yeah, so I auditioned, like I say, for a
lot of different things at that time, like mickey Mouth
Club was really close to me, and that earlierly years before,
justin all of them came along later. But like I say, uh,
A J and I uh were we had well, I'd
actually I take it back a little bit. I went
to this audition. I was in Puerto Rico and I
went this audition on my own. When I came back home,
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I had missed the the cattle call I guess you
would call it. And but somehow another my dad was
able to get a hold of lou Pearlman or whoever
I think it was Lauri's Nacholi at the time, who
had gotten my picture from the local community theater and
I got an audition at his house.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
I went to his house. I remember, probably like you guys,
first time seeing his house, Like I hadn't seen anything
like that, like Rolls, Roy and Limos.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
I was like, oh man, I got close to being
in the Noodo a couple of years earlier, but that
didn't work out.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
But I'm like, this might be my lucky break.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
And I auditioned and they said like they're like, we
love you, we'd like to be a part of this group.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
We have this kid named A J. McLean. I'm like, oh, yeah,
I know a J. I'm like, god, I kid, I
know M's see where every where I go.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah, I like he beat me at that. Yeah, and
he still thinks that.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
He still claims to think that he beat me at
this clap carnival thing. I'm sure he probably told you that,
but but I uh, they said, we went, we're gonna
do some more audition, and we'd like, uh, you will
probably hit you back up in three months from now
once we did an audition, and so I went by
three months, four months went by.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
I didn't hear anything.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
And it was coincidentally a person I was working with
in town was like, hey, I heard about this, you know,
kind of audition for this new kids in the blacking.
I was like, I think I've already been and I'm like,
they would have called me by now, and uh like
just go and just going. I'm like, all right, I went,
and sure enough I got lost. I was like forty five.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Minutes late for the audition, and I'm like, I don't
like to be you know.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
I'm always apologizing if I'm not on time, there's a
good reason, but for me just to get lost, I
didn't want to, you know, go there and put my
head between my legs and be like sorry kind of
a thing, and so I did something told me go
like five more minutes more. My faith said go and
just you know if you get if you don't find
the next five minutes, take your sorry ass home and
you know. And it wasn't meant to be, and fate
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had it. Within five minutes, I found the spot they
air gondola, and I'm sure you knew all about as
well in those early years, and that's why I did
my audition. They were like Tony, I saw a first,
I'm like, is that kid again? And I'm like like,
like Tony, like we've.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Been missing you, like we missed you? Like how did
you know what happened? They lost my picture? And back
in those days, like I was saying ninety three, there
wasn't the internet, there wasn't any way to find anybody.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
It was just the phone book.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
And it was a fictitious name. So but it was
just like it was crazy, it was meant to be.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
It was fake.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
And so I literally quickly got rid of that Tony
didnetdy name because I knew it almost cost me and
I went to Howie Durou and then a little bit
little I'm sure you probably heard, there was a couple
other guys that came and went within the group, guy Charles,
a guy named Sam Macatta, and so then little by
little Kevin came in and then Brian was a last
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Remember that came on in Wow.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
With Sam and Charles. Did you ever run into them
in the future after that? I mean, because they were
probably in it for like what a day.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Well, it's quite funny because I know, you know that
I knew Chris from.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Well, I was gonna bring that up y'all if y'all
went to college together, and I want to hear, like
what the truth was there too, because the story is
from Chris that y'all sing in choir together and that
he found out that you you know, got into this
group actually boys, and then he was pissed. He's like,
wait a minute, what, I didn't know there was an audition?
How is in there? I could be in the group.
And so that's when he went to Lou was like, well,
(21:44):
can I put a group together? And Lou was like, sure,
you can put a group together? So is that is
that how it went down?
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Well, it's interesting you say that because I've never I've
hadn't had a chance to sit down with Chris to
actually talk one on one on how it all transpired, therapist.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
So thank you, thank you.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Thank you can give me the story. You probably know
a way better than me. So yeah, So stepping back
to the second, it's kind of crazy how not only
did I know Chris before the group when the group
was starting, but I also knew Charles. Charles and I
were in choir at USF and Tampa coincidentally, we were
in a gospel choir together there, and so when he
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got in the group, I was like, dude, I know,
you know, like we just went and I came back
home that following year of Lyndsay Community College. I was
at a scholarship from my academics and everything to go there.
But I was like, I totally knew this guy, and
it was like it was it was so strange. And then,
like I say, there was a like I said to
you a little earlier, we had a couple of members
come and go that didn't work out, and so at
the time we were looking for a blonde hair guy
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and so we were like it was like Lou was
like everybody reached out to your your friends, you know, whoever,
you know that I have some talent, and so I
reached out to Charles, who was funny because I was like,
it was Charles, I just joined this community choir that
Charles and Chris were already a part of.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
It was like I said, it was my second semester
of my second year.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
So they had already been formed together a year and
a half before that, and so I had joined they
already had like their formation and everything. I just got
plopped right in the middle between Charles and and Chris
and I got to know them like they were, like
I said, great, great guys. And so I just knowing
how they wanted a blonde hair got I looked to
my left because Chris k Patrick had brown here a
little bit, you know, more like my look, and so
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we were looking for a blonde hair guy. So I told,
you know, Charles, and he actually was in. He made
it in the group, and somehow or other, it got
back to us from some of the early producers that
I'm sure you guys worked with as well in.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
The early years, that his voice just wasn't cutting it.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
And we were so young and naive we didn't understand
what was going on, but you know, we were we obviously,
you know, wanted to still stay together group, and we
were at a bond with him, but at the same time,
you know, we had to follow what was being you know,
advised to us at that time, and so, but we
always felt bad for him. So we told Lou, we said,
do whatever you can for this guy, Charles, if he
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needs to be a solo artist, help him whatever way
you can. And then from there, the crazy thing was,
we didn't really bump into Charles that much. And then
I remember one day seeing Chris, Lou took us, we
came back, I don't know, we were in Europe somewhere.
We came back home and Luke took us out for
dinner and we were at outback steakhouse and I'll never forget.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Olson comes up. Chris Kirkpatrick is our waiter, and I'm
like Chris, I'm like, dude, I'm like, what are you
doing here? And he knew Lou, and so I never, like,
we didn't know what was how he knew Lou.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
But all I could think of was that maybe he
had worked, you know, maybe Charles had put back together
their barbershop quartet that they originally had.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
And so then.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
From there, like I said a little bit a little
later on, I found out that it was that he
was the I didn't know how you guys had actually
came together. I didn't know if it was from Justin
and JC or well. And eventually I found it it
was actually from Chris, is what I was told. Don't
you know you can you can confirm that for sure.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
You know I can confirm it. Basically, you are the
reason that in Sync is around. Say, it's funny because
I have I have Actually you created a b you
created this.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Chris said that to me.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
He's like, dude, if you would let me audition for
your group, He's like, you know what, instinct might not
have been around here?
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Like that's good man, it's great.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
I'm I think everything happened for the totally for the
reason that we were all meant to be out there
together encouraging each other, you know.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
And that's what I said, the competition exactly.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
I think.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I think without that friendly competition, I don't think lou
Problem was smart enough to know that it's you know,
I think it's just naturally formed, this competition between the
fandoms out there, which would be fun, but it kept
us on our toes. We would not have gotten better
and better if it wasn't for you guys. And I
just think, let's let's try to outdo each other every time.
(25:59):
And I think that's what made it so big at.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
It's it's just keeps on history, keeps on repeating itself,
like a Brittany and Christina, Enrique and Ricky.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
You know, it's like always.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Here's those you know, Whitney, Yes, if not.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
I think a lot of artists get complacent and they
just start to think that they're bigger than don't need
to grow to get complacent.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
How this is a teen idol show. When you were
a teen or preteen? Who was your.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
You know what?
Speaker 5 (26:41):
I can definitely say Michael Jackson. I was a huge
fan of Michael Jackson as a little kid. And then uh,
Bobby Brown, believe or not. My audition for the group
was with Bobby Brown. My prerogative, yes, and and believe
or not, I will say uh when I'm younger. I
did send in a cassette tape into the fan club
(27:05):
of the new Kids of the Block.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
I'm sure I don't even know if they probably.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
Went like in and out to a dumpster, but but
I did send a cassette, you know, tape of myself
singing because I was like, if this is what's going on.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
These guys got it going on.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
They got like, you know, attention and everything, and I
was like, I want that. I never first saw myself though,
being in a group, believe or not. Even though I
had audition, you know, I sent out a tape to them,
and I got close to being in Menudo when I
was around fourteen years old, but the fact that I
didn't know Spanish, I didn't make it in the group.
But I literally sang in front of Ricky Martin and
audition as far as I could until they finally like,
(27:40):
we love you.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
But unfortunate Spanish fluently and this is a Spanish group,
so not gonna exactly work out.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I think they for you.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
I'm not too mad about it all worked out, but
I believe I believe or not. As honestly, as a
little kid and a teenager, I never saw myself being
in a group. I you know, I had the closest
thing I had was a female duet partner. But and
you know, and even in the early years, like I
don't know how it was for you guys, but being
a group for me, there was definitely some growing pains
because I had never really truly played like organized sports
(28:12):
and being a part of a team and understanding and
and you know, not getting your feelings hurt if somebody
says this or I'm like, you know, I'm definitely a
sensitive guy. That it was. You know, it was definitely
a challenge in the early years of saying is this
what fate had for me?
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Planned? But very blessed that it did work out.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
But it's true. And and to me, I'm the opposite. See,
I was built for team sports.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
It's like I was, you know, show choirs and it
just I was in quartets. I was my first boy
band was it's called Seven Cards stund there were seven
of us and you know, and I was the basinger.
So I never thought I could do anything solo, like
I was a base part of a group. But you're right.
But the sensitivity part, because I'm the sensitive one too,
(28:55):
that's me. I love the team sport. It was great,
but I did have to get over the fact that,
you know, my opinion here and people would like shoot
it down and like basically yell at me because of
my opinion. It would hurt my feelings as a sixteen
year old, I'm like, oh they hate oh God. So
that was definitely the big part that I had to
get over was like taking other people's opinions all myself
(29:16):
and negative apparently that was it made me cry sometimes.
I just think it's really great that, you know, Manudo
has has kept this. I don't know how many iterations
they've had in the last thirty years. Many when you
guys are ready to you know, retire, call it quit,
say you're you're in the eighties or nineties, would y'all
(29:39):
ever take the Backstreet brand and do a Mnudo thing?
Speaker 5 (29:44):
That's interesting? That would be interesting. I don't know, you know,
it's just funny because we've talked, you know, like what
if our kids, Yeah, you know that were to form
a group, like you know, Kevin has two boys, I
have two boys.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
You know, that's never how far for right, you know.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
I don't know if I'm just putting.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
That out there, I don't know if it would ever
come to a fruition, But you know, something like that
I could see being a cool twist on it.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah, keep it in the family, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Something like that.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
I don't know if I don't know if any of
them and by that time, they're going to be all
like dads having their own kids and probably the grandkids
at that time.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Maybe you're we're in the eighties right, what do you
see your future? Because I mean you y'all been on
this tour for quite a while now. I've seen your residency,
I've seen this tour. I mean y'all have y'all have
been working. I feel like you are just at at
your peak right now, like of all your career. I
think y'all are just right there.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I mean everyone's talking about the backshit boys and so
many years later. What why do you think that is?
Why do you think that your fans have just stuck
with you and that you are still you know, headline news.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
You know what I think, dude, I think we both
came from, you know, an era that was I think
I feel like some of the true last years of that,
you know, making of a group, whether you have the
fans that are just invested, you know the fact that
we were like the last ones to go out there
(31:22):
and truly you know, go around the world and truly
do the graph roots approach of going to all these
different countries and you know, and having success sometimes in
a lot of those other places before even our homeland
and planting those roots.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
I think it's the biggest reason why we've been able
to have the same power.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
And like I said, I always you know, I've bumping
to Joey and stuff like that, and I'm always encouraging them,
like dude, I'm like, get together, whatever it is, whatever
kind of formation. There's fans out there for us, and
you know they're they're there, they love us, they they're
just they can't get enough of, you know, bringing them
back to those memories that we all created.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
And I've never really thought about that, but it is
more of a personal relationship with your fans. When you
did start in all these different countries, face to face
with them, going to every single radio station, you know,
them camped out at the hotels. You got to know
the fans. These days, it's all just social media, so
you're not besides a DM but how many people are
dming people. But it's just you don't have that connection
(32:19):
like we did. And I know we both started in Germany.
You guys were just the Beatles in Germany when we
started over there. And I don't know if y'all went
through the same thing, but you know, you'd be so
big in Germany, cover of every magazine, number one album,
and then you come back to America and like no
one knew who you were at all. Is that what
you all experienced at the beginning to.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Oh absolutely, man, we used to call America no family. Yeah,
it'd be like we've come back, you know, just like
you guys, you know, being crazy mom at the airports
and stuff like that, and you get up in Atlanta
Executive Airport and.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Like, I know, come in like there's scratches on your arms,
you know from like girls like trying to rip you apart.
And then you come back. I swear this is from
a girl scratching.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Yeah, that must be so wild. You're like a superstar
just right now. And then you just go on a
plane and it's like it never happened.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
I don't know about you guys, but I remember for me,
like I had like, okay, well if this is what
it is and we never have success in our home.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
I was like, this is this is a great gig.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
I'm like, you know, I think all of us you
can't help but to want to have success in your homeland.
Then you feel like, okay, everything you've you've told everybody
about it. They can see a face and face versus
trying to bring home. Like like you said, a German
magazine in the middle is like pornography almost because they're
like touching sex education over there.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
And then in the time I learned everything about sex
the German magazine magazine, my.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Mom will be like, what are you doing over there?
We're going to church right now? Education, yeah, and so.
But but you know, I think it's like, you know,
coming back home. I think I think we can all
test for that. It was like you didn't really feel
like you made it properly until you had. We had successful.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
It's true because you would do things like Vettan DAWs
and all these like huge, huge shows over in Europe,
but you didn't grow up on that, so you don't
know how big that is. But you know, the Jay
Leno's of the world and the Saturday Night Lives, Oh, Charley,
that's what you just want. That's your valid awards.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Yeah, American Music Awards and the Grammys. I know we
all grew.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Up on exactly. And now looking like now, I mean,
I'm glad that we made in America, and you know,
we never really toured around the world after we came
to America. But uh, people like Robbie Williams, for instance,
I think lives a great life because everywhere in the
world Robbie Williams is absolutely huge, but he never really
did much in America and he lives here now, and
I think that was on purpose, so he could actually
(34:44):
have more of a life here right in America and
not just really bombarded wherever he goes.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Right.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
So I think that's good. You do want America, it
is the number one market.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
I mean, you get it, but there is a nice
overlining in it.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
That's true.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
I thought about that too, and I was like, Okay, well,
if I ended up having to relocate over here and
you know, fly back home every so often, create a
family over in Germany.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
And oh yeah, well you Deutsch Arkansas and Beech and Deutsche. Uh.
So you travel obviously around the world many, many, many
many times. You do. You're doing a food to every
every city you go to. Now, I think you find
a local restaurant, right and you do a like a
little a food show. Tell us about that.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's kind of funny.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
I mean, the one thing one of the many things,
but one of the big things that I feel like
when I'm traveling, uh, I come alive with just the
food and the culture.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
I don't know about how for you guys with some
of our some of our guys.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
In the group would be like baby home and maybe
at the hotel and they're like just watching you know,
TV and ordering McDonald's. I was like, that's not me.
I'm going out. I want to try the Vener Snittles.
I want to try to pay a ya wherever I am.
And I think it's because I know it's maybe because
I just grew up with you know, my dad being
you know, Irish Scottish Scandinavian and my mother being Puerto Rican.
(36:00):
I just grew up with a lot of like you know,
mixing of foods, and so when I would travel, like
my teams, person would just come alive.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
And so then, you know, probably about I don't know,
maybe eight years.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
Ago, maybe take a last tour, maybe the tour before that,
I started taking pictures of like places I was going to,
and uh, you know, because little I've always had this
thought of doing like a eventually like a travel show
or a food show, just like you know, giving people
the experiences that we get to channel the experience we're
out on tour, you know, and just be like, yo,
when you're here in this town, this is the cool place.
(36:31):
You got to try this food here Anthony Bourdain kind
of a thing, you know. Uh, you know, I try this,
and you know this is the cool night light spots,
you know, night life and.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
Just you know, if you want to go to you know,
see the Cristo on you know in Brazil, you experience
at all.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
And so I started doing a lot of pictures of
these of these amazing meals I was having having and
we called it how He Eats. And then I started
getting so many responses back from the fans and they're.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Like, would you be willing to like eat with me somewhere,
I guess.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
And I was like, you know what, I'm like, this
is something interesting here, I said, you know, I cause
I feel like you know, all of us over the years,
I'm sure you're doing it yourself soul wise, like a
lot of our fans are besides just wanting to have
that experience with the group, they just want to have
sometimes experiences with us individually. And sometimes these individual experiences,
whether it's a meet and greet or I know, sometimes
(37:21):
there's the comic cons that are you know, people doing
stuff like that where they get it cances just to
get to know each of us just a little bit
better than they would have just what they perceive us
up on stage. And so I would create these how
we events, And you know, I always always told the fans,
I said, you know, for me, you know, the best
way to get to somebody's heart is through the stomach,
you know. And and so I said, you know, and
(37:42):
for me, food is all about family. And I feel like,
like we talked about earlier, we've known some of these
fands for so many years. They've almost become like a
second family to us, you know, especially when we're not
able to be with our families back home.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
They are the closest thing to family.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
And so I love, you know, in somebody these places,
I'm like bringing people like I'm sure you guys remember
that you'd have fans are be coming from you'd be
in you know, Brazil, but you have fans are be
coming over to see you from Japan or from you know,
from Russians to events, so it would almost like bring
people together. And I feel like, you know, it was
a way to create, Like like we're all eating together
and everybody's getting to know each other. They're not only
(38:16):
getting to know me, but they're also getting to know
each other, and they're like they're almost like creating like
new best friends, like you know, friends and partners in life.
Because I'm sure you know, like there's probably been a
numpti million stories that you've heard where I met my
best friend at a concert.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Because of you guys.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
I met my husband or my wife because of you
guys in the experience that you brought us together, just
because of us being fans of your music, and so
it's like it's just it's just another way I think
to bring people together.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
And you know what, what better way for me than
to do it over food?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
No, it's great. I mean I'm such a foodie, so
I love stuff like that. And yes, I'm like you
when I go to a different place, i want to
just find the best restaurant, the best food get even
if I'm not like at that type of food. I'm
going to experience everywhere and shout out to the fans
because you're right, so we're gonna do it together. Some
of these fans really just travel wherever you go, and
I find I don't know about your group, but I
(39:05):
find the Philippines, Germany and Spanish fans are the ones
that I see in different countries all the time. I
don't know some of those three countries that they really
they come out to see. Yeah, so especially resilions. Oh yeah,
Brazilians and y'all just down. Did y'all just do Rock
and Rio? Or y'all were just down and or do
(39:26):
you're just doing your own tour down in Rio? Right?
Speaker 4 (39:28):
We did you guys?
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Did you guys did like so long ago? Oh my gosh, Yeah,
I haven't even done that yet.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
It's not look, it's it's it's scary. I have to say.
It was the first time I felt really intimidated about
doing a show because it's just like it was very strange.
And the whole time they're like, you know, just stay calm,
this is normal. I'm like, okay, but we're having a
police escort. But the police escort got pulled over by
the federal is like, who's in charge? Who's in charge?
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Yeah? You know, you know who to trust? What's going on? Right?
Speaker 1 (40:03):
If there was a place around the world that you
would just move the family to right now, where would
you live? Hm?
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Wow, that is a really good one, you know what
I mean. I love the food all over Europe, I
mean Italy, Spain, even like Sweden. I love the just
the scenery of the countryside there in Sweden. But I
can definitely say I've become a huge fan of Australia,
(40:31):
New Zealand, Sydney, Australia to me is just right out
there and Auckland, New Zealand. They both go ahead and
they go neck to neck on just just the scenery
and everything cool.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
New Zealand scene. Australia always well, I thought my number
one because I was like, if I've moved the family,
you know, says you know, America just keeps falling down
the hill. Uh. I always love the Scandinavian countries right, Denmark, Finland,
just the happiest places in the world. But the problem
(41:06):
is it's too cold for me. I need heat. I
need heat. So my next would be, yeah, Bondi, Sydney,
somewhere in Australia. I think the people in Australia are
just the best people ever. It's speak the language, yes,
you can actually communicate, and it's a little expensive there
you Australians. That's place and it is halfway around the world,
(41:30):
so it would not be very but man I would
live there in a heartbeat. A heartbeat, all right. Guys,
that went really long. I love when to go long
because that just means it's so interesting. So this is
gonna be a two for for sure. So we're gonna
split this up a little bit. We'll put the second
half up later on in the week somehow around there,
all right, So and remember stay frosted. Hey, thanks for listening.
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