JC Chasez (*NSYNC)

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and I heard podcast. Hello,
my Little Peanuts, it's me your host, Lance Bass. This
is the brand new show Frosted Tips with me Lance
Bass and my co host Michael Durchen. That's my husband.
If you didn't know already, UM, Welcome to the show, guys.

(00:25):
We were so excited to finally bring the show up.
We've been talking about this for probably three years, right literally, yes,
three years. And if you've listened to our other shows before,
you know we love our pop culture, so you're gonna
get tons of it on this show. But we want
to do something special because we wanted to take you back.
We wanted to give you some nostalgia on this show.

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Hence Frosted Tips the best era in the world apparently,
you know what. I always did want frosted tips growing up,
and I never did it. I don't know if I
could see you with frosted tips, but everyone did it
back then, and I wanted like everyone did it, yes,
and I thought I and Nick Carter were the only
ones that did it. Mark McGrath, well, I wanted to

(01:06):
model mine after his. Whoa you know where I got
my frosted Tips idea, um aqua. Remember the really white
haired guy had the spikes, I would might have been
a little attracted to him, um, but I definitely wanted
his hair. And since then I started really bleaching the

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crap out of my hair. And then you know, you
have to work a lot, so the root would come
in and boom, frosted tips were born and they never
left in your and they never thanks to my mom.
My mom is the type that anytime I go home
to Mississippi and she's like, you know, you need a
little son. You live in California, you're getting You're you're
really pale. You need You're just the type and need

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some sun. You look sick if you don't have some sun.
Some frosted tips in there too. Yes, always shall always
see Like another singer or actor or something, she's like,
you know, so little blah Blah's hair, Well, you know
what, you you should make it more like that at a
a blonde. Your hair it's a little too dark. Yeah,
you're just you're just a blonde. You're a blonde, like mom.
I wasn't a blonde since I was four years old.
Really yeah, and then when I you know, turned into

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a teenager, got really dark and then I joined in
sync in and they decide, oh, we want you to
be like blonde, right, No, they turned me orange. If
you see the first album cover, the German album, Oh yeah,
for those that don't know we're a German band. Yeah,
I think you just used son In for those first
few years. It looks it wasn't sun In. It was

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Legit went to a salon and got orange hair and
then they put a greasy comb over on it, just
like maybe they wanted a redhead. You know, they got
a lot of brunenettes who got a curly blonde and
they're like, you know what, it wasn't a good red
you know what, we need a redhead. It was an
orange head. Okay, it was one of my clown my
hair to make you laugh. Yes, it did make me laugh. Um.

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But yeah, so um, we sound maybe a little weird
because we were recording this on our voice note right now, um,
but because we have had a hellish, hellish of a
day alright, so on the show, I guess we buried lead. Um.
When we announced the show last week, I said we're
gonna have a very special guest. Um. If you listen
to the trailer, you know that this show is all

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about nostalgia, bringing in our favorite boy band icons and
really getting in depth and getting to know them and
going back. We're also gonna have great pop culture icons also,
but we're kind of focusing on the boy banders right
now because that's what you wanted, that's what you ask for,
and our very first guest today is who you really
ask for. He's like the unicorn of boy band members

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is he is the unicorn and I love that we
get to see him more than anyone else. What does
that make us a leper con? We're unicorn wranglers, We're
unicorn hunters. Uh. Anyway, guys, you asked, I gave it
to you. Mr j C. Chase is going to be
our very first guest now again. I want to j
C on here to help you know your life questions

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and you know, give you good hips. But no one
knew we were doing the show, so it's just gonna
be a straight on interview. But he is gonna be here.
Well we already did it, but he's he was here.
It's a great interview because you know, one thing that
I always wanted to really get in depth with that
they never do Mickey mouse Club. Yes really, I know.

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He's like, can we talk about making a mouse Club more?
I'm like, yeah, because no one ever talks about it.
The amount of people that came from the Disney Channel,
especially MMC at that era, Christina Aguilera, Britney spears justin
Timber like Jayce's Tony Luca. I mean, you name it.
There was some great, great people there and not even
to mention the people that audition didn't even make it,

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but they but no one really cares to talk about it.
I feel like they might be embarrassed about it. I
feel like everybody else, like who was not in Mickey
mouse Club always talks about it, like, oh my god,
they making moulu it was the greatest. They never talked
about it. No, I swear I think they're embarrassed about it.
And I think j C is too, because he was like,
let's move on, let's move on. But I kept coming
back to it because I wanted the salacious stuff that happened,

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because you know, if you're a teenager working at Disney
away from your parents, I mean, you're gonna get into
some trouble, all right. So j C is on the
show today we're gonna get to him any second now.
But we just wanted to um intro this because we're
gonna ento it every week, uh, to make it a
little more similive and it'll be better quality, not on

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our iPhones. And well we are we we were Okay,
another thing, we are stranded now in Miami. We were
heading back to Los Angeles today too then record you
know in I Heart Studios as the professionals we are.
But our flight was delayed on the tarmac for three
hours with two screaming babies. So we were like, uh yeah,
we can't torture the rest of this flight because we

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don't know when it's gonna take off and it's gonna
be like a seven hour flight. So we were the
only two members of the of the flight. I'm not
even getting get into how horrible flying is because this
is gonn a positive showance. We'll talk about this for
and I'm not gonna do it. Just Just know that
airline suck. That's all. That's all. And you know what,
and we were the good guys that took the babies

(06:10):
off the plane. You're welcome, You're welcome, play flight twenty
two whatever. Uh yeah, So we're still stuck in Miami.
I gosh, I have to get back by Friday. There's
no flights I do. I think I know who the
next guest is gonna be. And you're gonna even love it.
All right, guys, let's take a little break right now,
and when we come back, we're gonna have the one

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and only Joshua Scott Chase the Yuna Corn and again
follow us at Frosted Tips with Lance d. M Us
with all your questions life advice. Again, we're new parents,
so please give us any parenting advice you got, all right,
and you can give us your tips as well. Yeah,
and and honestly, as asked tips or ask for tips,

(06:53):
to give us tips on pretty much anything. It really
runs the gamut. What should I put on my hot dog?
I tell you, Yeah, we're going on What can I
I don't know. We're here for you. It's your show.
We're growing old together guys and new newbies too. Hi,
gen Z, we love you too. We're gonna teach you
so much. All right, we'll be back with This is

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Frosted Tips, our new show, and I have my lovely
co host, my husband, Mr Michael Turchin, which we also
called Turkey Turchin. We have what it's Turkey Turchin. You
don't know his nickname, Turkey Turchin, I don't, wow. I
never got that nickname because he his feathers get ruffled
a lot. So it's like Turkey church In. So you're salty,

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like you're an angry person over there for these Mike events.
You're really the real turkis you don't like I thought
you were sweet? Mind going yeah, well, we're about to
find on this show another side of Turkey church And
that's right, the world. I need the world to see this,
to see what I have to live with because his

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public persona is this this real sweet, you know, very handsome,
very buff, and then there's then there's another side to him,
and you're gonna you're gonna see it on this show. Yeah,
the guy that like cradles the babies and puts them
to bed. He's amazing dad, amazing dad. But I wanted
to bring back a show, uh, mainly because we missed it.

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We love talking pop culture, but we wanted to make
it very I don't know, I mean, it's it is
a little niche out there. Because I wanted I wanted
a show that really brought us back to filling that
nostalgia because I think, especially this day and age, people
need to escape, you know, just somewhere because life gets hard,
especially the older you get. We're all unfortunately middle aged.

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It's so weird that we're middle age. It's actually fraguity.
So I had a very strange conversation with someone like
two or three days ago, and I was like, you realize,
like this is the time frame where people start talking
about like you're probably five years from a midlife crisis.
I think been pasted Leslie three years ago when you're

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like twenty years old. Though you're thinking that's so far away,
And now you're like, I'm kind of knocking on the door. Well,
am I going crazy? Yeah? I remember when my parents
turned forty, right, and that was over the hill, right,
you get the cake and all that, and I just
remember thinking how old that was easy. But now I'm like,

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that is not old at all, guys. I still think
it's pretty old. I'm still in my thirties, so don't
lump me in with this. By the way, so you're
really knocking for another week. No, can't do math either.
January four. That is that in a week. Yeah, because
today is January nine. Crap, remember it's less than That's
how podcasts work. You record it at a time, Good

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lor Way, the magic traveling, the wrong in action. I
don't know what's going on now. I thought it today,
it was today, but today is not today. I guess what.
I'm still thirty five. I don't care. Welcome to the year.
It's amazing, I guess doesn't feel like I guess I
have to say welcome to show, j C. For those

(10:22):
that didn't know who, it feels like it's another day. Oh,
I think he's having the midle. That coffee is really
kicking in for crisis. But I'm on the Frost Show.
But I perfetually felt like too loud, too loud speak.

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But I always thought I felt twenty three pretty much
my whole life until I had kids, and I'm like,
oh crap, now I got a really adult and now
I feel like I'm really an adult now. Maybe because
I don't sleep, Maybe that's why I didn't have gids. Yeah,
maybe please all right, j C. When we told people
that we were coming out with a new podcast, and

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this show is all about that nostalgia and it's really
geared on the boy band World. Every episode we're gonna
have a iconic boy band member sitting in this chair
and just kind of catching up finding out all about you.
So I'm the George Washington of this. You are the
George because leaked that we were doing this, of the

(11:25):
fans out there were like jac has to be your
first guest. Jac has your first guest, Like, okay, jac
will be my first. It was that's an easy call
for you because you are You didn't have to pull
any kind of maneuvers. You don't have to pull any
quote unquote any strings. You didn't pull any strings. You
just made a phone call. And that was a nice
because booking shows like this is hard. Would have my

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heart because I've lost Nicholas Jay's numbers. So but you know,
you are the unicorn to the fans because you don't
do any interviews. You you're very private person. I've done
your interview before me, but that accounts. Yeah, you're very loose,
you know. I mean, am I oh my god, Like
the amount of whenever I go like on an Instagram live,
I just really people ask some questions about you and

(12:07):
I'm like talking about like my dogs or like my
hair or I don't know, something that nobody wants to
talk about. They're like, have you seen Jay c? And
like I just told them all you live in a
tree in our backyard and they still like this was
like a couple of years ago, and they're like, is
he still in the tree. It's been a running joke.
Tree in our backyard. I mean, we have a nice
tree back there. I's it's got all the little lanterns
on it, and I'm sure is it Christmas? Ere right? Oh? Wait,

(12:31):
down your decoration on the tree in the back. I
can't get back there. But we have like thirty Christmas
trees at home. So yeah, did you take them down yet?
It's January. Remember they stay for a good month. I
mean there's more holidays. My birthday. Well, Easter is coming up,
so they'll just be Easter trees. Okay, Well, um, but
I'm glad that you did this because the fans will
be very, very excited h to hear from you. I

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feel like we know a lot about So ask me
something unimportant. Unimportant that's thrilling, that's thrilling to listen to
it is. Yeah, well, I mean that's pretty much what
we all talked about on the show. It's just just
the most unimportant things ever. But I do feel like
I know so much about you, but so many years
of pass that I kind of forget a lot of

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the things. So let's start from the beginning. You are
from Bowie, Maryland. Uh yeah, well Maryland, Yeah, okay, multiple
cities in that area. Where are you born? What city
do you I was born in Washington, d C. Okay,
but then I grew up in Maryland. All right, got you? Um,
did you know at an early age that you wanted
to go into entertainment? Like? Were you always that talented

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kid in school doing all the plays? And no, I was.
I think my grown up personality matches my young personality,
believe it or. Not too cool for school, No, not
too cool for school at all. Just um, just kind
of for lack of a better word, it's I don't
know if shy is the right word, but it's close
to shy introverted to a better description. Would you say,

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and I get out there are in the world, Man,
I just picked my battles, Okay, I mean it is true.
All the fans I was like, we never see him,
but I see you a lot. Yeah, I mean, I
You're at the house a lot, you come to the
bars a lot with us, So it's really weird that
I'm like, well, if you just look at I'm not
doing it. Yeah, that's the that's I think maybe that
that would be the perception, right because I'm not maybe

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as invested in publicizing my life. Um, it doesn't mean
I don't have a life. It just means that I'm
more engaged in the moment and the people that I'm
with than making sure everyone else knows who I'm with
and what I'm doing, the opposite of what an entertainer

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usually thinks, well, look at me, look at me. It
depends on the entertainer, you know. I think there are
plenty of people who don't necessarily publicize every aspect of
their lives, and they just focus on who they are
as people and their craft. Who speaking of entertain inners,
you know a lot of people always focus on the
negative of everything, right, And you know, I wanted to

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make the show very positive because we all hear the
drama from every single person out there. But I like,
that's not fun. It's not fun. It's fun, and we're
gonna have some drama on the show. But you know,
I like to I like to show a good light
on people too. So you know, of all the entertainers
that you've been able to work with, you know, mingle with,

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who would you say you're like your top three that
are like, Wow, that's a good that's a good person
right there. Well, I know you've been hanging out. I mean,
I saw you with Gary Barlow the last couple of years.
He seems like he's great. Mark's great. I've spent some
time with Mark actually in the studio. That was a
while back though, that was just before the world shut down. UM.

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But I mean, look, that's that's like a crazy question
because I feel very fortunate in the fact that I
think most of the people that we've met very rarely
do you meet someone kind of crappy or jade like.
The people that we've met along the way, for the
most part, have been very kind and very generous with

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us in outgoing and and maybe it's because you know, uh,
we appeal to something in them. But I feel like
most of the interactions that we've had with people that
others would consider stars or something, um, have been I've
had positive experiences with you know, I would say almost
almost all of them, you know. So again, I know

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it's a boring answer, so it's just say too late,
you know. One is it's it's difficult right because we've
met a lot of people going back to uh, little
Joshua Scott, Um, what music did you listen to as
a kid? Um? It was it was very much a
mishmash of things. Like you know. Again, we talked about

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our our grownness and being knocking on the door of
middle age, and so we went through all the face
is of how um, I don't know why they're still
on their prescription. That's why I need them because you're
a little blurry now. Yeah, but if I don't wear them,

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you have you have like a nineteen seventies filter right now.
I thought that Barbara Walters filter right now. Um. My first,
the first thing piece of music I ever owned, it
was a gift and it was like a Christmas gift,
and that was the Michael Jackson's Thriller album. And that
was a record. And then I went from playing that

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Fisher Price. I played it on my little Fisher Price
kids record player, and I had that and I had
a book that had a record and it was called
Peter and the Wolf, and so I would listen to
the music Peter and the Wolf, and I would turn
the page and listen to the story, and then I
would play Thriller, and then UM. And then it went
to cassettes, and my first cassette was UM it was

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Paul Simon, UM Grace Land, and then my second cassette
was the Beastie Boys, so they're very different. And then UM,
when I got my first CD player, The first CD
I ever owned was led Zeppelin. The second CD I
ever owned was MC Hammer. So you can see the
variety that takes place. The nineties were very eclectic. Well

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so yeah, but I'm so these are these are all
in the eighties, you know what I mean. So it's like, yeah,
I'm I'm even that much older than you, Lance, Right,
he's lucky and I'm talking about up for that. Yeah, yes,
oh yeah, totally yeah, set him up for that question. UM,
so what was the first concert you went to, believe

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it or not? UM, The first live show I ever
went to that wasn't Church, UM was in Vogue and
and uh yeah they were the first thing I saw
UM and the and then my second concert was my

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first concert without a guardian and that was the Red
Hot Chili Peppers. So I'm like, I'm all over the place.
I'm as, did you ever looking at them on stage?
Do you ever think you know what I want to
be on that stage? One day? Um? By the time
I saw and Vogue, I was working on my first

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practicing for my first talent show. So that's that's around
the time. Like I realistically, I can't even remember. It's
like not quite a teenager, you know, a little younger
than a teenager. Um, not a girl, not yet a woman. Yeah,
something like that basically, Um, and uh we you know

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that around that time, it's kind of where I would
hum songs to myself and one of my friends act
really picked up on. He's like, you sing good man.
I was like, nah, because I was more comfortable like
dancing and copying the videos that I would watch on
MTV and stuff like that, and I didn't feel comfortable
singing in front of people. But I didn't realize I
was actually doing it at first. And then he kind

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of busted me on it. He was like, bro, he's
pretty good. I was like, and you kind of zip
it up a little bit and then uh, he you know,
another time he noticed me singing again, He's like that's
pretty good and he's like, could you sing this? And
you know I've tried and sing along with it. And
then when we did our talent show for dancing and
we won, you know, we entered in another one and

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he was like, I dare you to sing? And uh
so I ended up doing it and I ended up winning.
And that's when it was kind of like, wait a minute,
you know, this is kind of crazy, and you know
the rest of the story is is kind is actually
I feel like I've told before. I might even told
it to you in the last time. Again, I think
I've probably forgotten because I'm way too old now. Yeah,

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so it's like that's that's another thing, memory anymore of anything.
But that's kind of how it all. Yeah. And then
now because coming from Mississippi, we never had dreams. Last
I saw concerts, but there was never one time I'm
going to be that we've never had when we go
to sleep at nights darkness, I was just not nice.

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I was just trying to find a nas girl to
get you settled down for yourself. There are other people
in Mississippi who probably have dreams. Did not. I didn't know.
Am I S S I S s I P P
I you keep dreaming. Seriously, do not listen to that nonsense.
If you live in Mississippi, just give up. Just give up, guy,
that is not nice. Head egg. Look, if I can

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do something, then you can go so. Um so, once
you realize, okay, I'm good at this, I can do this,
how far was that before you auditioned for the Mickey
mouse Club And how did that audition come about? Because
it doesn't seem to me that you be the type
of person that I would see this in a newspaper, like, hey,
I'm gonna go audition for Mickey mouse Club. So strangely enough,

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I didn't necessarily think I was good enough. I just
enjoyed it, and that was kind of like more the thing.
I was having fun with my friends. We were having
fun doing it. Winning was great. I would have probably
been there if we lost. I don't know if they
would have been there if we lost, but like I
would have been there if we lost because it was
just fun and um so, after I ended up winning

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the singing bit, and uh, you know, my family kind
of you know, saw saw an art of my mother
actually was reading the paper because they had papers back then. Um. Yeah,
so they would they would come every morning and they
would give you, uh facts about the world and what's
going on in your city and things like that, and so, uh,

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she came across a random article and it said that
Disney was holding open call auditions for the movie news Hees. Yes,
I was gonna bring that off because I did hear that.
So they they had an open call for the movie
news ees and my mom was like, they need people
who can sing and dance. Honey, you just won this thing.
Would you want to go? And I was like, yeah,

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it's great. She goes, okay, but you know, you're it's
on a school day, so we're gonna have to get
up early go into d C. It's in Washington, d
C this audition, so you know, you're not going to
be in school. And I was like, yeah, gee, that sucks,
you know what I mean. It's like, of course you go.
So we ended up going there and they said, you know,
they gave the age range for the characters that they
were casting, and they said I was either too young

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or too old for the part that they were casting
for that day, you know, because they had a full
cast of care which part it was? This was one
of my favorite musicals. Well Christian Bale, right, like that's
kind of his one of the early things he did.
So yeah. So it was like, but they said, listen,
you're too old or too young for this. But next
door they're doing an audition for a revised version of

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The Mickey Mouse Club. It's you know, it's been out
for a couple of seasons now and they're casting it
next door. And the only one I knew about was
the fifties one, right, and they had one in the seventies,
and I didn't know every twenty years they would like
kind of bring it back, which I think they need
to bring it back now. They actually they did like
an internet version recently. Yeah, but that was just like
way to new ag like bring back the classic Mickey

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mouse Club with a great new Ian because look at
the amount of talent that came out of all of
those versions from a try and come on, you're having
trouble speaking today and they gave you a microphone. Has
been a while since up in front of this mic
what is going on? But every I mean nothing compared
to you. She well, but your class was insane. I

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mean the amount of people that came out of MMC,
the New Mickey Mouse Club. I mean, you have Carrie Russell,
have you you have Justin Christina, Brittany, Ryan Gosling. Did
you know? And I kind of wanna. I want to
know what it was like being a teenager on this
huge hit show away from your family. Probably right, you weren't.

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Your parents didn't move to Orlando, but there there's a
lot that went into it, So I want to know
the slacious stuff. What happened was everyone like dating everyone,
losing the virginity to everyone. It was a bit. It
was no you know, we were too young. We were like,
we were just so hungry, and honestly, we were amazed

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that people would let us do this, you know what
I mean. They're like, oh, you want to sing and dance, Like,
we're gonna We're gonna let you do it all day.
You know, you're gonna have to go to school, but
then you're gonna get to play with some of the
most talented people and that you've ever encountered all day,
and then they're gonna be your friends and you're gonna
get to hang out with him after work, and then
you know, so it was look, it was a it

(25:59):
was a real blessing ing um and I look, I look,
I look back at that stuff finally, and in the moment,
you just think it's fun and it's interesting because one
of the stage managers, Dave, used to always say, just
don't forget any of this. You don't realize how special

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this is. And you know, and then and the acting coach,
this guy's name was Gary Spats, and you know, because
we would always do these comedy sketches and you have
to memorize these lines, and so you know, you're working
with eleven year old and twelve year olds up to
fifteen sixteen year old, and you know they're trying to
get you to be comfortable, you know, memorizing lines. And
so we would work with this acting coach and you know,

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he would always you know, at the at the beginning
where at the end of the class, just go, you know, hey, man,
just remember like have fun out there, and you know,
just remember how lucky you are. This is a great thing.
And what was that you played a character wipe out?
It was a little wipe out. No, I mean I
probably sound like him anyway, I'm such a bro. It

(27:01):
was more like what California. What was your first solo
you got on mmc um. I don't remember the first
solo I got. I remember the first video I got.
I was like, oh, I'm making a video like MTV
but not you know what I mean. So it was

(27:24):
it was a song by a band called Nelson, which
were twins. Yeah, and there was the song was called
love and Affection didn't trans can manage them eventually or
I don't know label. Yeah, So that was my first
kind of like moment where I was like I just
made a video and uh and I had like the

(27:47):
cast member, my Lens. She was the love interest and
we told a love story in our video and so
you know, that was very that was very mature, especially
for Disney. Yeah, I mean, but you were you were
high school students, I know eventually, Well, your school went
through Dr Phillips, right, Well, originally I was at Bullie

(28:08):
High and then UM and then I was spending so
much time in Florida that I got transferred to Dr Phillips.
And did they do school on set or did you
actually get to go to the actual high school? Both,
so the majority of it was on on set, but
what they on site. What they would do is they
would take the curriculum from the school. They had a
group of teachers called from a company. I mean, am

(28:31):
I spinning out of this like boring stuff? It is
like they had basically a company called on Location Education
that would that would have had a group of teachers
that they brought in that were specialists and they would
teach the curriculum from our schools. We would have to
then learn the curriculum, do all the work, take the tests,
and then send it back to the school so they
could input it as you know, us taking those classes

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and things like that. Yeah, is that where you met Joey?
Because I know Joey went to Dr Phillips. Also, I
know he had like stock m mc bro Are you
kidding me? Are you asking me a Joey story right now?
My fans? Why did you tell the story? No? I
know Joey was an audience a lot, so I figured

(29:13):
he was just a stalker. So Joey was actually one
of the first people I met when I moved to Florida. Period,
Like in my first year in the Mouse Club, I
was moving into my little apartment where a few of
the other members had gotten apartments as well, and um,
and he was like in the outside somewhere and I
was but I guess he was like walking. I don't

(29:34):
know if he was like walking to the pool or something,
because it was like a you know, a whole thing
and it had a pool area and in the he
saw me unload in my car or something. We were
both the same age. I guess he recognized, like, you
need some help and I was like, yeah, you know,
I'm just moving in. He's like, I'm Joey. And so
he actually became one of my first friends ever before
anyone when I moved to Florida. I never knew that story. Yeah,

(29:57):
he was like swim fan, very swim fan. He was
a very like two days. He proves the guys, if
you stalk hard enough, your dreams can come true, even
if you're from Mississippi. Yeah, dream big. Who on the
show got in the most trouble? Like who was the stinker? Um,
that's two different questions. Actually, look man, again, I think

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everybody was pretty dialed in. Everybody was more I would
say everybody was more focused on getting a song or
getting a sketch, Like everybody was trying to like really
get it right. Everybody wanted their shine was a competitive
like dance Moments, It wasn't it wasn't that bad. I would,
you know what, To be honest with you, the stuff

(30:43):
I hear in retrospect, it sounded like the parent room
was far more competitive for the kids. And and then
this is later in life, like my parents would be like, yeah,
they were, they were. They would say yeah, they would
have like the TV and the parents would kind of
be talking about the other kids into the I was like, really,
I was like, we were cool, man. We just wanted to,
you know, sing our songs and get in front of

(31:05):
the audience and and try to show how we do.
You know. See, that's the show I would have watched
because Dance Moms. It was brilliant because I mean there's
some there's some crazy parents out there, and I could imagine.
I always imagine too, because I love Kids Incorporated, which
was a little before MMC. I guess it still was
going on at the same time. They aired it right before. Yeah,
so I remember Kids Incorporated. And of course you know

(31:27):
Fergie Mario Lopez. I mean we worked with all those kids, right,
because I've cut the songs for Fergi when she was
in Wild Market and then um, you know, when I
ended up doing Dance Crew, Mario was the host there,
so I was like, hey, Kids Incorporated, Mouse Class Man,
I came on a half hour after you. Bro See.
I just imagined it was always like Kids Inc. Versus MMC,

(31:49):
and you'll always kind of like fought, like the Jets
in the shows. I think they were around before we were,
but I don't know because I came in season four.
I wasn't even in season one. And you know, see
my my generation was like the part yeah that season
they made that group in season three. I think you know,
the good old day. See this is bringing back some

(32:10):
really good fun. Does this whole thing to be about
the I wanted to do a lot because no one
ever talks about it, like no one Brittany Christina justin like,
here's a full circle moment for you. By the way,
so too full circle moments when it comes to the
Mouse Club and then we'll drop it. So my first
live concert, as I told you, was in Vogue. Rona Bennett,

(32:32):
who was I was on the Mouse Club with and
joined the same year she joined, is now a touring
member in Vogue. I don't know she joined in Vogue
and she's been doing it for years and she crushes it. Like,
first of all, who doesn't love in Vogue? And then
when she got the when she ended up gigging with
them and becoming like she's solidified, like she's in the band,
like it's she's a band member. And they still tour

(32:55):
like crazy and they sing the house down, and it's
amazing for me to think, like, Okay, when I was
a kid, this is the first thing that I saw
alive that would like blew my mind. And now she's
doing that, you know what I mean, she's part of that.
I was like, that's a gratefull circle, and it turns
out the other full circles obviously Richard mars Right. So

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the song that I sang at my mouse Club audition
was Richard Marx right here waiting for You. They because
that's what I won the talent show with, right Like,
they asked me to go up there and sing, and
so I was like, okay, and I had to and
uh sing what what I like heard in the car
and uh and that song was popular at the time,
and uh so I end up getting the I look

(33:39):
at it as hey, I got the job because of
that song, you know, and then later in life we
end up doing Promise with Richard and you were really
good friends to this day. Yeah. Absolutely, Look he's amazing
and and but that was again another kind of full
circle moment that actually tied in all of them, right,
because it was like the first audition I ever did,
the first thing I ever sang in public, like as

(33:59):
a for a talent show, and then it got me
the job for Disney, and then we ended up working
on it, and so he's been a common thread through
all of that. That's so great. Also, after the show,

(34:24):
uh is over, you went to I feel like you
were doing something with Justin right in Nashville. We're all
doing like a project together. Yeah, so we It's funny
Justin and I saw talked about this Saturday night because
I never even knew what this project was. I just
know when Chris called Justin, he was like, well, yeah,
group sounds great, but like can j C being a
two we're working on something together. It was different. It

(34:46):
was everybody remembers it a little different. Um. So I
had been in l A recording and working with some
of the people that I met a mouse club, like
the musical supervisor. I went out and work with him
a little bit and saying on some demos and things
like that. And then, uh, but it was right before
it was time for me to start school, right because
I was like, okay, I'm eighteened, I gotta you know,

(35:08):
start thinking about college and things like that. So I
was driving back across the country, um, and I stopped
in Nashville to work with Robin who was the vocal
coach on the Mouse Club Vocal Coaches, so who ended
up you know, doing some arranging for us and and
really helped us harness our sound. Um. But it started
with her. I was like, I stopped in and she's like, well,
we you know, we should get you in the studio.

(35:30):
We should write some stuff, you know. And I was like,
oh cool, and she's like, yeah, Justin's you know, I've
been working with Justin as well. Y'all should hang out.
And I was like, yeah, let's. Even though you were
older than Justin, you are pretty close. Because when you
have a common language, there is something that overrides all
of other things. A lot of things did a lot
of differences disappear when you're passionate about something and you

(35:52):
can focus on that one thing, and it makes that
bond even stronger. So we we recognize, you know, early on,
even doing the Mouse Club, that he was a little
bit more mature and I was probably a little bit
more immature. So but but yeah, but when we got
to Nashville, um, I started writing songs with Robin and

(36:13):
he was coming from Memphis into Nashville and doing recording
sessions with Robin because he wanted to get signed, right
and I was looking to make music because I wanted
to eventually get signed. But I was I had two
things going. I was like, Okay, I gotta go to college,
and I'm gonna maybe go for music, maybe go for
for something else. I was thinking about a lot of things,

(36:33):
but I knew but I always loved music. And Robin
was like, you'll regret it if you don't. At least
you know, do what you love. So let's just make
some music. And so we started doing that, and when
Justin popped into work on his song, we started working
on each other songs, and next thing you know, we
started enjoying it. So then he's like, come back to Memphis.
Don't go home yet, Like you know, it wasn't time
for school to start. So then I ended up going
back to Memphis, and you know, his mom and his

(36:54):
dad like welcomed me, gave you know, gave me a
room to crash in. And next thing, you know, we're
plotting and making music together and and and making demos.
And then I was like, all right, here's the plan.
You know, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go back to
to Maryland and I'm gonna start at my school thing
and then like every month or every other month, we'll
come back down and we'll start continuing or continue to

(37:17):
work on each other's music and make some music because
we're happy because we were having fun and um. And
as soon as like as soon as I got home
basically from that trip I left, he called me up
and he goes, so, I have another thing to run
by you. I just got this call from this guy, Chris,
and he he said that you know, there's this there's
a label and and they want a boy band. And

(37:39):
he was like there was no turn back then either.
You didn't know what a boy band was. So he's like,
he's like, uh, they're asked me to do it. But
I was like, he's like, do you want to do it?
We could do it together. And I was like, I mean, look,
I'm willing to check it out. Let's go check it out.
And that's how I ended up getting involved. He was like,
let's go down there and see what it's about. And
long story short because I know most people listening to

(38:00):
this will know the story of InSync, but for you knew,
but he's out there. So yeah, Chris wanted to put well,
kind of got upset he didn't get to audition for
the Baxter Boys because he went to school with Howie
d um So he went to trans Con, which was
lou Pearlman, and said, hey, if I put a group together,
will you support us? And so that's when he called
justin and then he was with you. Then you ran
into Joey I think at eight Tracks maybe a Pleasure.

(38:21):
It wasn't a pleasure. He was actually he's walking around
in Pleasure Island. He was allowed in everywhere you went,
and it was amazing, you know, because it was like
it was like I had been there a day, you
know what I mean, Like I was back in like Florida,
like maybe your day or two. And he looked at me, like,

(38:42):
what are you doing in Florida? I thought you left,
like the mouth clubs over Da Da Da go. Yeah,
I moved away, I said, but uh, we we're putting
together a band. He's like, oh, I'm in a band
and I was like, uh, well, our band is gonna
be better. Is that the one he was with Louis Fons, Yeah? Yeah,
so what they called this something guys the big guys
are like something like that and and that's horrible. Um

(39:08):
but so he was in the band with them, and
uh and we were like, well, you know, we're we're
calling all of the favors it. And I was like,
we've got a guy, you know, we we're calling in, like,
we got Robbing coming down to help us work on
our sound. We're working with a choreographer, Miles that used
to do the We're calling in all the mouse club people.
We're gonna put a demo together. And he's like, We're like,

(39:29):
you know, we need we need another voice, man, we
need he's for a bass singer. At the time, we
were like, you know what we all sing, you know,
fairly high, you know, um and then uh no, you
look that makes you you know, irreplaceable man. But um
so yeah, I mean, long story longer, Yeah, and there

(39:50):
we go. So yeah, that's how we all got to go.
And then I knew Justin through a vocal coach and
recommended me a bass singer to come down. Still don't
know why I'll chose me, but here I am because
I did not know had a dance at all. They
needed another blonde guy and you're like, oh, he's blonde.
Yeah when I wouldn't have the frosted tips then, but
still no. I had orange hair then thanks to the
thanks to whoever did my hair when I first joined

(40:12):
in sync, because they were like, oh, you need me
more blonde, and then it just turned orange and it
was like a really greasy comb over. It was not pretty. Hey,
I was going through my you know, awkward teenage years
that look at you now and look at me now
so much he still has the exact same as we speak.
I'm still really uncomfortable around. So those uh, the first

(40:34):
year that we were together, you know, we I didn't
know what was going on. Seriously, I was sixteen years old.
Y'all had been doing this for a while, so I
didn't know what the future of the group was. I
know that, you know, there were high hopes we would
get a record deal. Right, that didn't happen. It took
us a little bit um we had. But I think
any any any creative business. And this is what you

(40:56):
learned through life, right through the through the long lens.
You hear no a lot more than you hear yes.
For a long time. You only get yes to death
after everybody sees you get that win, You get a win,
and all of a sudden the yes has come too much, right, people,
yes you yes, you to the point where it's not healthy.

(41:16):
So you know it's but before that real moment, everyone
says no because you know it's a bet, it's a gamble.
You know that everyone kind of fears the unknown unless
they feel like it is a sure thing. And what
is a sure thing? Right? You have to have an

(41:37):
opinion about it. It's it's like it's not math like
for some people it might be, but it is about
feel and humans feel and that's you know, music and moments,
their feelings. There's no they make no sense really, you know,
it's like it's a zite guys, and it's a movement
and it's like what is that? Why? Why? Why are

(41:58):
bell Bottoms cool in the seventy is in not the eighties,
you know what I mean, Like, why do people like
guitar based stuff and want for one decade and then
like eight oh eight's the next. You know, It's like
there's no rhyme or reason, it's just a feel. And
people don't want to gamble, they want a sure thing.
So that's why you have to appreciate the people who

(42:22):
take risks based on their inner truth. Like you have
to be thankful for those people because they're the ones
that are innovating instead of just playing it safe to
the status. And you know, something that I didn't think
would ever happen to us. And again, sixteen years old,
I didn't know anything about the music industry, but I
had no idea that we would even be able to

(42:44):
sign to a German label. One. I didn't know that
they even had English speaking music on the radio. But
all of a sudden, you know, we've exhausted all the
labels in America. No one wanted to sign us, right,
no one's gonna listen to that stuff. Then all of
a sudden, Munich, Germany calls and they're like, no, we
love groups like this and we want to sign you.
In the next week. We were basically on a plane

(43:04):
to Germany. What was that like for you? Was that
a surprise to you or were you like, oh, yeah,
that's that's normal. I Look, I was in the same
boat as everybody else, Like I had done the only
thing I had done before that in in my first
trip to Europe was a USO tour. So in the
Mouse Club we did some USO performances for troops. But look,
it was just a matter of of having outreach, right,

(43:26):
Like you know, so I had been to Germany before that,
and uh, but when I went, and there was still
a bit of it, you know there years later, um,
because I would say like four or five years passed
by between then and the last time I was there,
it was like there when I was there, it wasn't

(43:47):
really pop music. It was like pure technically. It was
very techno. And so and look you here it in
our very first record. We're working with European producers and
we're trying to put our American sound and mix it
with the European sound, and that it was an experiment, right,
We were trying things because it was like we were

(44:08):
so excited to to be in like in the mix, right,
we were like, oh, somebody's giving us a chance, and
then you get taken to a place that is so
different from yours, and all you want to do is
dive headfirst into it. You're like, I want all of this.
I You're so like, what is this music you're listening to?
And some of it you love and some of it

(44:28):
you hated, but you wanted to know more because it's
like it's new information. It's not the same thing. So
when you go home, you're like, I got the new new.
Like we would come back to Florida, remember, and we
had just like sold out an arena or something, and
we'd be like, there were thirty thousand people and then
and they would go, what are you talking about? I
don't even know your last name? Like, you know, my

(44:50):
friends were still in high school. And I come back,
I swear to god, there's like two thousand people chasing
our busses everywhere. They're like, yes, we're un get that.
But it was it was great, Like it taught us,
you know what. I'm so glad we started there because
we weren't ready yet. We weren't ready, we didn't really

(45:10):
find our complete sound yet. We were toying. Obviously, we
were influenced by Boys, the Men, and a lot of
R and B. Right, So that's we did a lot
of acapella. But when we started, when we were able
to afford actual tracks, we were toying around with all
kinds of stuff, and yes, living in a foreign country,
we were still trying to find ourselves. But we were
so lucky to have been in this moment of time

(45:30):
to have found the Dennis Pop, Max Martin of it
all in Sweden. Um, so we would record in Sweden.
That's where our first hits were recorded, and that was
the Sharon Studios. Dennis Pop, you know, unfortunately passed away
not too many years after we recorded those first songs,
but Max Martin kind of took this and ran with
it and still to this day, right some bops. When

(45:51):
we when we met with Dennis and Max and everyone
there in Sweden, did you know how much of a
powerhouse they would be? And did you learn a lot
as a writer yourself? Did you get to learn anything
from the share on guys? You know, you never know?
You just excited again. It's just a it's a it's instincts.

(46:11):
Everything is instincts. And let me think being there there
was just an energy while we were there and so
you could feel that. Now you don't know how people
are going to accept it, but you know that you
like what you're doing. That's that's kind of the best

(46:33):
you can do. You know. You just again, you just
have to you just have to try. You just have
to trust your instincts and try. And if you don't
like it, leave it alone, man, and if you like it,
go for it. Remember they would play us some songs,
you know, for the next album whatever, And there was
one song they played as it was baby when the
Lights got Baby when the Lights and I was like,

(46:54):
you know, it's it's a good song, but we ended
up passing on it. Thank goodness, because I think that's
when we got bye Bye Bye out because we passed
on Yeah, Like I did like that, but it was
it was just you know, the story behind that was
by Bye wasn't originally for us? Was it for Backstreet?
Who was? It was four or five? So we swapped songs.

(47:15):
I think that's the story that Christian told me. I
could I could be remembering it wrong, but I feel
like he told me years ago. He's like, you know
that that was originally for another pop and it was
the UK band and and they passed on it, and
so we pitched it to you and like the first
time we heard it, like you know, every was like, yeah, okay,

(47:38):
we're recording that. You know, that's crazy to think of
all the different artists that could have sung some of
our most most it was famous songs out there, right.
I wish there was an album that we could put
all these artists be like, well this was originally pitched
to them, but now they recorded. Yeah, there's so many
think about think about all the actors that passed on
movie roles. You know, it's like, who wish that just

(48:00):
turned down the biggest pay day ever? Matt Damon. Yeah,
it was like baby More More Time was for TLC. Yeah, gosh,
I mean you are an incredible writer right now, what
let's go for people out there that are really wanting
to get in the business and their writers out there.

(48:22):
Give us some tips. Here we go into our frosted
tips segment. Ready, okay, give us some frosted tips on
maybe three on how you right? What the process? Like?
What do you Okay? So first, there is no process.
I crawl into the fetal position. I'm writing this down.
I cry. Oh so I'm a writer all right, every

(48:45):
day and then I cry some more, and then I
blow my nose and then I cry some more. Yeah,
I feel it processed on like z gen Z likes
to you know, they feel like to feel the emotion
and everything ing. Um, there's no one way to do it,
you know. Again, And I've said this already like a

(49:07):
thousand times on our cover in our conversation, and it's
actually something that that the just me and I were
speaking about again. I told you the other night. It's
like everything is it's about instincts, and your instincts are
are basically a barometer. I think these these are just

(49:29):
thoughts and opinions, but um, it's a barometer for truth.
What is what rings true to you? What? What is
what is ringing that thing inside of you? And why
would it ring it? Because it feels truthful to you.
So when you hear a song, you're like, oh, I
feel that they must have really felt that, you know,
and or something like it. You can you can feel it.

(49:52):
And it's that to me is everything. It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter that like how where you start, right,
It doesn't matter if you start with a lyric or
you start with the melody, or you start with a
drum pattern, or you start with the guitar, whatever you
start with. What matters is when you're listening to it
and while it's happening, does it feel true? Do you like,

(50:19):
start with a melody or a lyric lance you're not
listening to me. It's a feeling, a feeling. But like
with me, it's like it's always a title. I mean,
I don't write music that much at all, but like
when it comes to TV and film, it always starts
with a title for me, and then I just this
title comes and then I just create this whole world
around it. So again, I think every song has its

(50:43):
own journey. Now, some happen a lot the same and
some you know, again, depends on every writer. I would
say every writer's process is different. My process is different
almost every time. You have a huge note section, and
I do have a crazy amount of voice memos and notes.
But you know, it also comes from a conversation, like

(51:04):
we could probably talk, I could. I would Here's an
exercise that I've done with other writers in the past.
I'll just go yo man or whoaman or they. I
would say, we have to write something today. What's going
on in your life. Would you like to know what's
going on in mind? Let's throw up you know, it's like,

(51:27):
let's just put it all out there and when something,
when that bell goes off, will know it will start.
You'll start to feel the conversation bounce faster and faster
and faster and faster. And so that's one process, right,
to just get a conversation going. Another process is to

(51:49):
sit down with an instrument and to noodle around until
something starts to feel like it's coming together. Um, but
again it's it's different every time, you know means so yeah,
all right, let's take a little break right here, and
we come back. We're gonna some fun things. Turkey Church
and has the fan questions so many, I'm sure this

(52:09):
will be I think there's some funny ones on there.
So we'll be right back with frosted tips and we
are back with j I'm talking all over. Your intro
started right ahead. This is a very natural show, a

(52:32):
natural show. I don't feel natural. You look very natural.
I am actually very natural. I have been showered in
weeks alright, Turkey Church, and it is your time to shine. Um,
you've been talking, by the way, I have showered, clear
that up, brushed my teeth? I showering. Um, so you

(52:55):
know he gets lots of messages on his d m
s and do get d M Yeah, because you're social media.
I would love to read a couple of those d ms.
I don't make it read them over here. Yeah yeah,
I mean you're you're okay, yeah, you're horrible at social media,
but at least you're on it now. Like once in

(53:16):
a while, like like if I'm with someone, they'll go,
you should put something up And I'm like, right now,
why don't you get someone to do it for you?
We have a whole team. Well sometimes sometimes I'll get
ye all that for it. They'll go, come on, man,
people want to know what you're doing. And I'm like,
why would anybody care about a base? They care? Recently
I did. I made one video because I was like,

(53:38):
they were like joining. I was like, okay, fine, how
do you do it? Wait? What's your TikTok? Is just
at j You may be perfectly honest, I can't remember
remember one of those number ones it Jac says they
and to score sixty nine is all right, Let's get
to what the fans want to know. Um. Well, first

(53:59):
of for First of all, um, the fans want to know,
you know, you don't have kids, but what is it
like being a daddy? Because the Twitter's fear the all
of the spheres, They're like jay C is a sober
you can't even like what what's it like being as daddy?
Or or as through the post you can't see what's

(54:22):
going on pictures everywhere, or or if you you know,
associate more with Zaddy that's fine as well? Is way
more fun? Is it? What's it like being a zaddy?
The fans want to know? Um, well you know, uh no,
we don't know. That's why I masked. Okay, Well it's
it's harder to wake up in the morning, you go

(54:43):
to bed earlier. Um, I have Honestly, I don't even
know how to answer that question. I'm so uncomfortable the
fans have to answer that question. What's it? You know?
Why is he a daddy? Why is he? I will
I'll say this, I adopted a dog and and so

(55:04):
that has been fun and challenge and challenging but mostly fun.
So right, yeah, I'm thankful every day that he's healthy.
I'm thankful. Yeah, he's still biting people. No, no, he
might growl. He's you know, he's he'll let you know

(55:25):
when he's not into what you're saying or doing that.
He's very expressive. Alright, turkey, you've stopped him on being
a zaddy. Think about that one. Another big fan question
is do your arms still look that sexy? No, this
was an extual question, absolutely not. Wait do your arms
still look look that sexy? Sex? I don't. I've toned

(55:48):
down the working out. I just keep it to like
an hour for a while. There you're going to jump
a lot. I was going a lot. But now I've
I've I've become reasonable and I'm enjoying my life more
than making my body hurt, because you know, look, when
you train hard, next thing, you know, you're like you're
having problems with with muscles and joints and things like that.
And so so now I exercise for health, not for looks.

(56:14):
I'm injured at all times, and I don't even work
out that hard like at all. We know, we know
I purely work out for looks. Yeah it's a thing. No,
I don't, it's for health. Okay, moving on, moving on,
there's so many questions, not doing all of them. Just
I know I know the paper. No, this is a
summer like you know, how about this? Uh, describe your

(56:37):
perfect day? Okay, since everyone thinks, uh, you're such a
private guy, tell us a day in the life, Joshua Scott.
I mean everything in between doesn't matter. The There's like
three things that I care about honestly in life, and
that is the happiness and health of my family, happiness
and health of my loved ones, and then would we

(57:00):
be considered your loved ones? And then um, and honestly
being proud of something that I've worked on. Like the
rest is kind of like I care about a lot
of things. But if you like, what's the most important.
You want health and happiness for your loved ones and family,
And then you want to feel like you're contributing in
a positive way. What's something that you feel very proud

(57:22):
of that you've been a part of. I mean, look
just about anything. Again, I'm proud to be my father's
excuse me, yeah, the son of my father, the son
of my mother. You know, I'm proud to be a
brother to my sister and brother and and all my family.
Like again, it's like accomplishments are basically in my mind

(57:46):
and it's it's a bit not even spoiled to say,
because we have been very fortunate in our lives to
be successful, you know, And so some people would say success,
success is, you know, again, not having to worry about
how you're gonna eat the next day. That's that's that's
bare minimum, right. But the things that I've been most
proud of are just feeling good about what I'm doing, right,

(58:10):
It's it really is a simple thing. You just want
to feel good about what you're doing. Okay, here's another
very hard hitting question, very hard to do you still
use a flow bee for your hair? Yeah, yeah, I'm
glad I cut my hair two weeks ago with the
flow because last time we interviewed you, yes, we found

(58:30):
out that you actually use a flow beef those lots
of those precious was this This wasn't even a COVID thing.
It wasn't. No, it was I got it. I got
it as a gag gift on my birthday when I
turned by the way, I'm in my forties now, and
when I go on my twenty ninth birthday, it was.
And by the way, when they bought it to give

(58:50):
to me as a gag gift, it was vintage. I
mean it had like you know, reused tape and all
this stuff all over it. So I got somebody else's
flow bath, which is kind of disgusting when you think
about it. But but yeah, so I gotta hand me
down flowby as a joke. And then one at one
point I was like, you damn me to use it
like and then all sudden I was like, it's not

(59:10):
so bad. It kind of feels good. It's like it's
like that it makes your head nice and cool because
the hair is rushing, and all of a sudden, you're like,
and I'm accomplishing something because I'm I feel good and
I'm getting a haircut, and you're getting a nice even haircut,
and I'm doing it by myself. I'm not bothering anybody.
That is one thing I remember about you on the road.
You loved getting your hair washed at a at a salon,

(59:34):
like to get a haircut like this. You're the one
who taught me, like you gotta get the hair washed,
you gotta get there. I'm like, I never did that before,
Like this is you didn't dream big. I didn't know
you could get your hair washed. I mean I went
to you know, a barber. Yeah, you'd like your hair.
What I'm my lord, I didn't drink Yeah, now I'm

(59:54):
obsessed with it. Yeah. Any others you got, Like what's
the last big splurreds? Like I always like to know,
like different, what have you splurged on last with his
clothing or something a big purchase? You're not a big splurge, No,
I'm not. You've been in the same house since I
feel like Lance likes the guy by Shoes, since I
came to the picture. I'm not like a I'm not

(01:00:15):
a thing person. Um, but I'll splurge on experiences. Right,
So it's like when uh it's nice, I like creating
memories with people and so that that that's the splurge thing, right.
So if i'm if, it's a travel thing usually. So
let's let's get into your first album. Um, because it's
so weird to think back then, A lot of people

(01:00:36):
are like, wow, it's so risque, right, Oh my gosh,
it's such a departure for Jason. It's funny because today
there's no way that album could be risque like at all.
But when it did come out and you were coming
at the end of you know, it was a different time.
You were just coming out of a boy band and
it was a little bit of a departure. Um, how
did that process go where you? Did you want something

(01:00:57):
that sounded completely different from in sync, that was more yourself?
But I mean, did you or did you even like Carrot?
It's just whatever came flowing out of it. There were
two There were two things that I was thinking about
when I was making that record. And the one thing,
you know, was look, I just wanted it to be good.
I wanted to be interesting, um, because the artists that

(01:01:17):
I've liked I always found were interesting in their storytelling. Um.
And the other thing that I wanted to do was
go wherever it was that was next. I didn't want
to make a record that I had already made, if
that makes sense. I didn't want to make something that
I had already done. I was looking for, like what's next?

(01:01:38):
And how do you find what's next? It just what
you brain? Or do you get influenced by listening to
artists in Germany? Um? I just think it's it's a
combination of all things. You just kind of have to
listen to the world around you, and you also again
trust your instincts and play like don't don't. I would say,

(01:02:01):
do what you did before. If your pattern was to,
you know, start this way, try doing try starting somewhere else.
So if if you nine times out of ten started
writing a song with a word in mind, this time right,
you know, start it, you know again, with an instrument instead,

(01:02:22):
And and so I think that was part of it.
And then it was also like, Okay, everyone is making
songs that sound like this, they're using the same sounds.
Like everyone's using the same sounds, So let me find
a collection of sounds that I like that aren't the

(01:02:44):
same sounds that everyone else is using. And then let
me build something a body of work around maybe a
few of these things. And that's kind of where I started,
and who knows where I ended up. I mean, I
look at it now, and there's go It made sense
to me. But you know, and what was the reason
you didn't want to do a follow up album where

(01:03:04):
you just kind of over it? At that point I started,
I started to I've recorded a few things, and then
it was just kind of like, if you're not in
love with what you're doing at the time, like you
if you're not committed and you're not all in, You're
gonna waste everyone's time. And so I was getting to
the point where I didn't feel like I was innovating.

(01:03:27):
I felt like I was making part two of the
thing that I are already done. And uh. I experimented
for a while with it, but then it just it
didn't feel like I was moving the conversation forward. I
felt like I was having the same conversation and that
didn't make me happy. So well as an outsider, I

(01:03:47):
you know, looking at your album, I was pissed on
how JIB did it. And I can talk about job
now because they're no longer around, but I saw what
they did with Justin's album, I saw what they did
with your album, and I was like, are they purposely
trying to like sabotage you in a way because I
did not see the same effort with your role out
than his, And I'm like, what the hell is going on?

(01:04:08):
And then there's the and see if this rumor is
true the whole Pro Bowl thing. You were supposed to
do the Pro Bowl, I think with your first launch,
and then they canceled it because of the Janet Jackson
boom thing. Is that true? I didn't say yes, but
that's I mean, that's the rumors. Man, that's not that

(01:04:28):
you're just stupid. You're gonna like cancel something over here
just because someone you're related to did something way over here.
You say that though, but look people have like it's look,
you just got punished for someone else. That just that's
so stupid to me. But that's not on anyone. We're
not the decision makers, right, We're the guests in that situation.

(01:04:50):
So I understand that, and I understand that people have
to have a bit of a reaction to to do
what they think is right. And I'm I'm not I'm
not the kind of person who cries over spelled milk
or punishes anybody for for for something, you know, that's
what we're here, that's gonna say. That's no. I just
think it's kind of like a series of unfortunate events, right,

(01:05:13):
Like that's just the way I view it. It's like, hey, man,
it happened. Well, it's a big thing on the Twitter
and everything is has tag justice for j C. It's
a really big thing. Justice for j C is the
trending hashtag is nice over the Pro Bowl. No, just
not in terms of all of it. I mean you do.
You trend a lot. I mean when when we did Coachella,
you know, a few years back. I mean, you are

(01:05:35):
the number one trending thing for a couple of days.
I mean, how did that must have filmed? Great? Don't
even know that, Like, how do you count? You're not
on social media, so you don't really know what's going on,
especially at that time. I don't think you even had
a TikTok. Just singularly you were trending for, not even
think it was j C was trending. So, I mean
the fans they want it, they want it. So are

(01:05:56):
you is there anything that they're going to be able
to listen to from you in the next few years?
Are you working on any even like a single or
something else for someone else? It's it's interesting. Look, I'm
always were, you know, being creative, and I've written a
few things that you know, actually I found out recently
might find a home with some pretty interesting people. Um.

(01:06:17):
But the thing, the thing that I've been committed to
over the last year or two now two years, Um,
I've been writing a musical and so I wonder if
we could talk about that. I mean, I don't know
how much we can say about it. But that's been
a really fun thing for me. Um. So it's a
totally different experience because you know, you're tying in so

(01:06:41):
many pieces, um, and you have to be really clever
about it feeling natural. Um. You know, when you're dealing
with the musical, the worst thing that you can do,
at least in my experience in watching some musicals, it's
like some you're like, where did that come from? Like

(01:07:03):
why did they just bust out to that? You know,
and when you watch a good musical, it feels natural.
And so that's been a fun part of the process.
And uh, those take years. Well I didn't know this
at the time. When I started it. I just look,
it was something that I was inspired by, and so
I went in, you know, full speed. And then you know,

(01:07:26):
now that I'm in it like a year and a
half or whatever, it's going to be, you know, two
years in the summer. Uh. Yeah, they they told me
when I played I literally played it for the first
time for somebody like just a little while back. I
played the first piece and we have a full body
of work, but it's we're making some changes now. But um,

(01:07:47):
I was like they were like, okay, so here's the process.
Actually you know it. It was I went and saw Juliet,
it was Max. So when I was talking to Max
and he's like, he goes, so this thing took me
eight years. And I was like, what, You're the big
a songwriter on earth. He goes, this, this took me
eight years to make. And I'm thinking, okay, well, people
take a year. Some people make an album in six months.

(01:08:10):
Average people take like they like to take a good year,
maybe two. And that's old school mentality. So when he
told me the musical took you know, by the way,
not to get made, but to make it to Broadway.
So he was he was up in London. I went
and saw the premier in London. Years yeah, and then
he just did it up in New York and I

(01:08:30):
went and I saw him there and actually got to
chat with him a bit, and and he's like, yeah,
this this like eight years. And I was like, yeah,
because once the book is done, then you gotta work
like previews and all that. I mean, who knows where
you're gonna do that. Vin Hanson he was working on
it for and then to even get it to Broadway,
to even find a theater that you can get into.
It's just it is an undertaking. It is, but I'll

(01:08:51):
tell I'll tell you this. It's been some of the
most fun I've had in forever because you know, look,
I like the subject matter and so um to to
get into that stuff every day and find ways to
connect it emotionally, there's been a ton of fun. It's

(01:09:12):
it's been exhausting and exciting at the same time. It's
it's a great story. It's about Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer.
It's not, but it's a new telling where he was
on crack for a bit, and so it's coming back
to turn. I mean, you're a deep writer. Okay, one

(01:09:34):
question before we take a break, and then we're gonna
co back. Because we always like to always like it's
our first show. We're always going to like to end with.
Am I gonna set a precedent? Are you call my friend?
But we have um an old I think Bob magazine quiz.
I don't want to see if you're guarantee you I
fail this. What's your favorite color? I like rainbows? But

(01:09:56):
before we go there, everyone wants to know. Of course,
we're still in our high atis coming from you. Do
you think we'll ever do anything again, anything ever, anything, Sure, okay,
but I'd have no idea when or what it is.
All right, yeah, man, it's like because I'll never forget

(01:10:22):
an MTV Christmas special. And it was we had already
decided we were going to go on our six month hiatus,
so we're doing it in Orlando, the Christmas Special and uh,
we were upstairs and it was in a hotel room,
but it had an upstairs and we were on the
bed and that's when Justin came to us and said, Hey,
on our time off, I'm gonna work on our solo album.
We're like, yeah, that's awesome. And I remember you you

(01:10:44):
commented to me, You're like, oh, I think that might
be the end. And I'm like, what I thought? That
was so like, that's ridiculous, not even think and it
was how are you so insightful? At like that time.
I think it's just it felt like the evolution. Yeah, yeah,
it felt so naive. It was it was look, it was,
it was it was the journey, and I think it

(01:11:06):
it happened the way it was supposed to happen. That's
that's the reality of it. And you could feel it
and uh, but you know, look again, I I don't
think you know that anything is happening right now. Obviously
it's not. But yeah, you know, but for for such
a long time ever, it was like never never, never,

(01:11:26):
never never. But then then you realize as you get older,
maybe maybe you just soften up a bit and you're like,
it's probably a never, but I won't say never, So
I don't know. That's probably the best way to say.
So fans hate that answer. Yeah, well, alright, come back,
We're gonna see if j C here and matches. Oh

(01:11:48):
you're doing it to me too, or I guess I'm
getting quiz to let's see if we're still the same
from right back. Welcome back to Frosted Tips. All right,

(01:12:08):
we got j C. Shose with us on our very
first episode. Alright, Turkey church in here. My lovely over
there just passed me his page. Wait, you're gonna ask
me the question. No, I just want to see the
picture here. Now, those are some real frosted tips. Those
are the money of the tips. You know, I did
my hair like that. I remember that era because he

(01:12:29):
loves from Aqua. Come on, I was obsessed. Might have
had a crush on him, uh, and I wanted my
hair just like his, So I went away. I thought
you were obsessed with Susan powder. Yes, and Susan powder.
And apparently Sarah Michelle Geller that was my go to
who's your crush? Sarah Michelle Geller? That was it just

(01:12:51):
because she's every man's dream and she's so hot and
I want to like, she's going hello Buffy the Vampire
last Yeah. Yeah, we just ran into her and I oh,
she was at that wedding we went to. She was,
He was Freddy Prince, still going strong, going strong. Okay,
give it to us. So here's a quiz from their
simple questions. I think it's from right, is this team machine?

(01:13:15):
Bob uh? It's teen teen something? Speaking of how did
uh scootle Braun? You know he bought bought magazine and
teen Machine and all those teen magazines not too long ago,
and then they all went away. I wonder why. But
he couldn't do anything with it since he has such
the young artist, right, I mean he might be cooking

(01:13:35):
something up. You don't know. Okay. The other thing is
is it would you ask him? He's not a boy band.
He can't be on frost of tips. Did he have
frost to tips? I guess you can be on the
show if you had frost of tips. So, Ryan Seacrest,
you can't have all these rules. Man, you better open up.
You better. If you want guests, you better keep your
door open. I mean, there is a finite amount of

(01:13:58):
boy band members out of this say you will have
to can be a boy banded jay because you could. Yeah,
you're gonna, You're gonna. You should probably talk like you
said to to managers. People would probably want some insight
in that. You might want to talk to choreographers. You
might want to talk to people girls who have dated
boy banders and get all the real guy talk to
Gloria over there. Oh that was a hot little minute.

(01:14:20):
Y'all dated. Okay, here's another thing I did not know,
because you you know, Justice dated all kinds of starletts,
you know, even was the you know, the most visible.
But he was telling me that you dated Tara Reid.
We were friends. Because I was like, I don't remember that.
He goes I swear. I'm like, I don't know, but

(01:14:41):
it was when I was over in Russia, So I'm like, well,
maybe he had this little brief they definitely dated. By
the way Terry read, have you checked her TikTok out lately?
You'll need to be TikTok friends. Well, well, yeah, that
was that would be that would be a thing. Well
it's a thrill. I just I'm not gonna make comments
on it. See it. Wait what is her TikTok like?
I don't know, But there's a second there's a second

(01:15:02):
time in the Britney Spears to talk about Brittany. I
would kind of like to bring that up. Um, well,
especially now, I just feel like, you know, mental health
is such a huge thing that everyone is finally discussing
and talking about. And you know, this business can be hard.
I mean you have to have a thick skin, which
most people don't, um, and it can just affect you. Uh,

(01:15:25):
and we see that with people like you know, Amanda Binds,
you know what Brittany is going through and uh, Kanye
West right now, Um, you know that there's something, there's
something off right. And my thing that I keep seeing
that's making it worse is you know, and we love
you fans out there and their majority incredible fans, but

(01:15:45):
I think there's that little section of fans that enable
people like a Kanye West and a Brittney spears, especially
on social media, and I think that can be, you know,
like a little dangerous. So what's your take on like
the Kanye West thing right now? If you don't have
anything nice to say? Yes, shut up? Yeah, yeah that's

(01:16:09):
what That's what I like it. And on that note,
let's get to the nineties quiz. Um, all right, we'll
go back and forth. I'll sit over here. Um yeah,
start with ceover here. Okay, Well they're pretty easy, they're
just straightforward. I could favorite this favorite that. Um. I
like this one because I like Lance's answer here. Um. Yeah,

(01:16:30):
that's what I was about to ask. What are the
qualities you look for in a girl? Um? Okay it
she has to be sweet. Um, I'm pretty sure I
was very I'm gonna love your answer because clearly you're
afraid of girl sex. I like a good girl, someone
who's very innocent, very innocent, very religious, that wants to
wait until marriage. Yes, is that what I said? Yeah? Okay,

(01:16:54):
I want a good girl who was very innocent. And
I still say that today, perfect j C. What do
you look for your your number one quality in a woman?
My number one quality in a woman. Uh, he said boobs.
It was a boobs. No, okay, it wasn't. No, it's
not joey honestly, first everything else like whatever, Yes, that

(01:17:18):
was one of you said, confidence, patience, and honesty. Look
at you consistent? Okay, okay, we got that. What were
your favorite hobbies back then? You listed three? I listed
three hobbies? Um, probably sleeping, sleeping and sleeping. He was
a sleeper listening. You liked football, swimming, and karate swimming.

(01:17:39):
Wait what karate? Football? Swimming and karate? What did you do?
I never did karate? So they literally made that answer up.
I don't know. I didn't feel that part out right now.
Swimming it must have been because when we were all
like lived in that house, we had a pool in
the backyard. But that makes no sense, Like Lance, what

(01:17:59):
was your favorite hobby? Oh, definitely jet skiing, Yes, that
was it. Did you not peak at this? No? Because
it still is one of my favorite hobbies. Because when
was the last time you wrote? A jet ski? Not
too long ago? It was in the ocean in Portafarta
years ago, many many cod Yeah, three years ago. It's

(01:18:20):
my favorite, Like it's my favorite thing. I've done it
twice and I haven't done it in years, and I
can go anytime I want. Yeah, it's true. What's your
favorite film? Uh? That changes a lot right now? Man,
what was it? What was it in ninety, in the
nineties or whatever, two thousands, it's going to be Star Wars,

(01:18:43):
I'm guessing, but now it's it's totally anything. I mean,
by the way, no, no, no, because I still don't
get me wrong, I love Star Wars. But now I've
turned into that person that it's like the next film
that you see is like your favorite film, like, oh,
it's so good you know pants? You know what his answer? God,
I hope so's clue? Um, your yeah, clue. I'm a

(01:19:07):
huge fan of that film. It still is my favorite movie.
Though this year it was that I can't ever remember
the title everywhere everything so good, sauage fingers. God, it
was just a surprise, like, holy crap, that was a movie.
Who's your favorite movie? Stars? Movie stars? We see again?
It was singular. It would change now you had to
I had to. Um, I'm gonna say probably probably if

(01:19:29):
I like Star Wars, I'll probably say Harrison Ford one,
and then um, who would be the other actor? It's
going to be Hillary Swank put Meg Ryan because because
I used to, like, you know what, I used to
love those little rom com French. I mean, I've pretty

(01:19:54):
much had a crush on Meg Ryan. I'm sure, but
I bet, I said Julia Robertson Tomas No, you said
terror read just now you said Tom Hanks. Okay, what's
your favorite food now? Or then? Then? Okay? Because see
again you're so I have to get it. I'm talking
to you as if you are like years this is

(01:20:16):
the new me, that's the old mean, we don't look back.
We don't look back. Wasn't my favorite back then? Any
any it's gonna be something. It's going to probably be
like an Asian food maybe, yeah, yeah, Chinese? That was it? Lance,
what was your favorite food? You're Italian? Like French toast? Yes,

(01:20:41):
the Lances. Basically, what this proves is Lance is not evolved.
I have not evolved at all. Then we have that's
two more question. It's this thinks this is very vague.
Loves you love dogs? J C. Wrote Shakespeare. I do
know Shakespearean karate it was you know, it's like you

(01:21:04):
go through phases though, right like you're like you're learning
about your crash. So it's like I was going through
a Shakespeare fans But my Greek phase was probably like
three or four years. I was obsessed with all the Greeks. Ce.
J C was the one you wanted to marry, and
I was the one who wanted to be best friends.
That was also a popular hashtag Mary and j C.
That's the thing on on the social not the one

(01:21:26):
you think you'll ever get married. You're just you're not.
You're There's so many of my friends that are like, no,
never ever want to be That's a that's a weird
question for me, would it I don't know. Yes, I
just if they wanted it more than you. I don't know.
That's a loaded question. I'm not I'm not. I'm not touching.
The next episode, um and then hates hates um anything bad.

(01:21:51):
You said your hair? Well, yeah, you hated the Frosted
Tips and now you have an entire program that was
right after my Orange come over. So yeah, I hated it.
And j hates liars liars. He likes honesty guys, unless
unless they know karate Kate. Oh, j C. It was

(01:22:13):
so good having you on our first episode of Frosted Tips.
It was my worst nightmare. Well that's what that's what
we're here for. Is there anything that you would like
to tell these lovely listeners out there that we didn't
get to talk about. Anything you want to say, Hey,
this is coming out, you should see this? Or is
there a movie you like? You know, or a flavor
of ice cream they should try see. This is for

(01:22:36):
the camera. They held me in this room captive for hours.
I had no way out. They locked the door. My
jeans are glued to the chair. I'm not gonna as
we have. We have peanuts and and pretzels, so we're good.
We could be here and they ran out of coffee.

(01:22:58):
Well sorry, all right, see you so let me out.
Very good to see you, but we do have to
shout out a J. McLean is his birthday today? All right, guys,
Well we'll see you next time on Frosted Tips lands Bass. Hey,
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.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}JC Chasez (*NSYNC)