Joey McIntyre (NKOTB)

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass, an i Heeart
radio podcast. Hello, my little Peanuts, it's me your host,
Lance Bass. This is Frosted Tips with Guess what Lance
bast and my lovely co host Michael Turkey Turchin.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Oh stopped, Lance Bass.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Happy summer, Michael Turchin, Oh my god, Happy summer, Lance
Bas had a great summer so far.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
It's yeah, although it has not felt like it's been summer,
and well, it.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Finally got California room finally because it was rainy and
cold for nine months here for literally the entire year,
so which I actually really enjoy.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Well, it's nice sometimes, but like I'd like at least
like a weekend or two of sun yeah and warmth.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah. But you know, trust me, we're gonna get plenty
of heat in sunhow so I kind of enjoyed it.
I love a rainy day. I saw what I miss
me too about living in the South when we were
in Texas a few weeks ago. It was an amazing things.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
I love a thunder god.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
I miss him so sometimes I just want to be
at home, all cozy with a big thunderstore, like shaking
the house store, not a Thunderstore, thunderstorm, and yeah, I
miss that.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
It's the best. We were also saying, no, we do
so good at trying to be healthy. Yeah, and then
we'll get in these little bouts of working out sometimes
like two months in a row, like we're doing like, wow,
four times a week, this is amazing, and then you
miss one day.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
No, it's because we go on vacation for more than
a couple of days, go on like two weeks, and
then it's like, well, it's two weeks of not doing anything,
and it's hard to get back into it.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
It is. I what motivates me is if I've worked out,
you know, several days in a row, and then I'm like, Okay,
I'm into it, like I'm not going to stop. But
then if I skip a few days, like day or another,
I'm out of it. I've already yeah, I've wasted too much.
And now I yeah, because I gain a lot. I'm
gaining a lot of weight back though I don't know.

(02:00):
I'm diabetic, and you know, I've been trying to figure
this out, but I've I lost so much weight because
of the medication I'm on. But now I'm figuring it
out and I'm gaining the weight back, which means I
got to get back onto my cardio.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, you needed to gain a few pounds, not that
you needed to, but you keep saying.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
I just it's about it's about your inards. At this point,
at this age, you're just you're thinking about your inwards,
your inards. Guys, you don't know what an innurd is. Yeah,
of course I do, especially your heart because that's an inerd. Right,
it's hard to have to plastic surgery on the heart. Yeah,
you can't keep that young. No, let's not do that.
What are we talking about? This is weird today on

(02:41):
the show. I'm so excited Joey McIntyre is here. Yes,
I mean I am a blockhead. That was the first
pop group that I just you know, loved my sister
with so the New Kids and I got to see
them in concert in ninety two ninety three, and I've
loved them ever since. There's such an influence.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
For in I mean, if they were around, I don't
think and Sink wouldn't have been I mean maybe not
well because lou Pelman started because of New Kids on
the blog, that's right, maybe not talking.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah, Yeah, it's just so crazy. I think we did
talk about that with Donnie or someone. Yeah, but yet
you're right, if it wasn't for new kids and Sink
would not be here, and if they wouldn't have split
uh in ninety four ninety five, we would not be
be around because that's when backs you boys lurched in crazy?

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Was that?

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Is that part of the butterfly effect? Like just little
weird things happen in life and it just changes every
course of history. Yes, yeah, all right, before we get
to Joey, I think you have a hot topic question
for me. We're gonna start doing the hot seat question.
That's what it is. I don't know what it is
you do, and it better be good. Okay.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
I could probably give some options for answers for you
with this question. What is one job in your career
or several jobs in your career you wish you didn't
do or could have done differently?

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Jobs in my career that I wish I would have
done differently or didn't or do do altogether. I mean
nineties was.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
That was I was about to say nineties House.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
That was just such a like what the hell was that? Yeah?
The promises I was made on that show? That was
low Budge and then I'm like, did was this a
ten dollars show? What the hell is this piece of crap?

Speaker 3 (04:21):
It was like a show that should have like it
was like, oh, it could only be viewed on a.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
And just the way that they bear and also the
way that they suckered me and Christina Milion into doing it,
I know, and now I was just like what it
was a little bait and switch there. Yeah. Another one I.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Think which I wish you wish you could have done
differently was Finding Prince Charming because it was a great idea,
but yeah, different casting, different network, like you just made needed.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Well, here's the problem with with LGBT shows, And I
mean they're getting better. I mean there's lots more opportunities,
a lot more diversity. Yeah, but back then when there
was not even besides Rup Paul, there was no LGBT
show on the problem is all these shows created are
just copies of shows. So ours was you know The Bachelor, Yeah,

(05:14):
the exact format. It's like, okay, we've seen this, we
can take a straight format and just turn it and
they just make them. It just didn't No one thought
it was authentic. Everyone's like, okay, boring but yeah, I
would do that one. Because there's one show that they're
definitely going to bring to the States. It's very popular
now in England and I Kissed a Boy. It's a
new dating reality show that's supposed to be a little

(05:38):
love Island dish, but people are really love.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
That's gonna say. You could do a gay love Island
that would actually well, this is it. I Kissed a Boy.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
So if that comes to America, I will definitely throw
my name in the hat for that host because there's
no doubt that that will be coming over here. And
I've never seen it. I really don't know the format,
but I know that people are loving it, so yeah,
hopefully that'll come over And I've set.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yay, I love a good manifestation.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, you're listening to me England. Yeah, this show, I'm
sure they're already like got their host for America. All right, guys,
when we come back, we are going to have singer,
songwriter actor the youngest member of n K O t B.
Joey McIntyre's here's so excited You've been asked and is
here and he's number four. We're going to finish the

(06:23):
first boy band on this series. Soon if we can
get Danny, can get Danny. Yeah, so Danny, we gotta
do it. Of course he's listening. He listens to every show.
It's true. He is the biggest. Right now, it's always
Taylor Beyonce. I mean, it's it's embarrassing how much that
they reach out to us wanting to be on the show.
And I'm like, b m hm, you're you're not a

(06:45):
boy band. When we get the girl bands, we got you, Okay.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, No, I would love to have Bece. Oh my god,
are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (06:51):
He's a teen idol and a boy band or t
title that's all you know? Girl band? No, I mean,
right now we're going to boy bands, but a good
Beyonce would just be okay, never happening. Give her a
call so she'll do it. Okay, I'll color all right,
we'll be back. All right, everyone. We are super excited

(07:24):
to have our next guest on the show today, all right.
Joseph Laury McIntyre is an American singer, songwriter, and actor.
He is best known as the youngest member of the
pioneering boy band New Kids on the Block. He has
sold over a million records worldwide as a solo artist
and worked in film, television, stage, including performing on Broadway.
And I have to say congratulations Joe for winning Best
Replacement and wicked on what was that website?

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Probably dot com Broadway dot com.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
I believe you wrote you wrote this, although I heard
that we heard.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
The welcome to Frosted to thank you. I'm messing with
your camera already.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
That's okay, No one needs to see me at all.
Y'all have been killing it, I mean killing it. I mean,
how many years have y'all been on this mixtape tour?

Speaker 5 (08:12):
Well, I guess the last couple of tours have been
mixtape tours. But you know, before that, we've been lucky
enough to to really put some great tours together and
they've always kind of had that vibe. We just really
kind of went all in with the mixtape, you know,
tour and having great accent.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
You know.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
But we have a very very good thing.

Speaker 5 (08:30):
And we just finished our first block Con, which is
very cool.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Someone was just telling me, oh, Christina again, our friend
Christina who has a question for you? Later They said
it was incredible and they specifically said your set was amazing.
Whatever songs you chose everything.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, I mean it's it's nice as you can imagine.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
You keep I mean, we've been able to somehow keep
it fresh and they keep showing up for us.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
It's like a good marriage, I guess.

Speaker 5 (08:55):
And you know, we have this crazy thing the cruise, right,
the cruises insane and it's you.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Gotta check it out.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
You gotta be there to believe it in the whole thing.
But this was a little bit different, and it's just
nice when the fans are like, oh my god, that
was the best thing ever, because that's exactly what you
want them to say.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
And it was great.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
We did a lot of we did the We tried
to like what you know, the calm thing. Do you
know you have panels or what are the panels? And
one of the special things for me was we had
the director of our first four videos, those iconic you know,
you know, it's lightning in a bottle, you know what
I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
It it's like you've got to have all the pieces
of the puzzle.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
And Doug Nichols, he's such a good guy and this
is a long time ago, you know what I mean.
And you know he even talked about how we didn't
have any money, so we only had a certain amount
of film that we could use, and it didn't look
that way, but we had him out and he walked
us through the video and how they were made, and.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
It was those things can be emotional, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
You don't even know where they come from, but they
you know, these having those people from your past come
up and all of a sudden, you know, this flood
of emotion comes out.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yeah, and you probably learned a lot of things you
just didn't know as you're going through it. Was there
anything that he told you, like, oh, this happened on
set that you had no idea about it.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
Yeah, he had a lot of He had a lot
of pictures that we've never seen.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
And that was the fun saver. No, I only think
fun savers were inventive.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
That No, I don't know what it was.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
It was just it was just a polaroid.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Polaroid or a print.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
And you know, we've seen almost everything there could be
of us, you know, over the years, and and he
pulled out some pictures and it was it was really something.
And I realized how he kind of ruined me in
a way because the videos were so good that anytime
I get footage or anything or a first cut of

(10:51):
any video. I kind of like stamp my feet and
cry because it's like, no.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
That's not it.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
You know.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
I was like born on these videos and they were
so beautiful in every aspect of it.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
So but it was really cool.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
And then we had a blast and we had an
eighties prom and on and on and on.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
It's great.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
What was your favorite video to do?

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Well? The first Please Don't Go Girl was our first
hit record.

Speaker 5 (11:15):
So that was the first time we were able to
like go down to New York and make a real
video and it was it was phenomenal. You know, we
went to Coney Island and we went to you know,
it had it was made on real films, so you
can really tell the difference, you know, between real film
and digital and what we have. And I mean, these
iPhones look amazing, they really do. But you know, to

(11:38):
go back and you know, it's black and white and
it was color and things popped and there was an
energy and it was like it's vinyl.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah, it just has that.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, it sounds I think vinyl just sounds perfect.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
You have a good vinyl I haven't splurged done a
good vinyl player yet.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Just that my daughter's Yeah, no, I just have little
ones from gift bag. Yeah said give you or something
like that, but they're never.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
Really nice record players right now and like, you know,
a whole like I don't know, console or whatever the
hell you.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
I don't collect vinyl, but I think I would like to.
I would enjoy expensive it is, it really is, but
that's something that I would like to collect. I don't
collect much, but that I would be like, okay, you
pass that down to my kids.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Another collection, Well, you do collect one thing. It's taken over.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
I know it's not my fault though, it's pretty much
your fault of Funko pops, a little fun pop. I'm
assuming we just got.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
One and they're insane and uh yeah, for a lot
of reasons. Then you same thing probably happened. You get
your pune ca and they're super nice and they say,
come down to the store and get whatever you want.
I have three kids, so to your point, they're everywhere
now all of a sudden, and they're amazing.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
But like, they're everywhere, And if it wasn't for my kids,
I probably wouldn't have gone as crazy. But I've been
to the store three or four times now. And every
time I go and it says, oh, I'm just doing
a little thing here. They forced me to take four
huge crates of the Yes, they do do they not
gestures there, you've seen this. They do, they do. We
have hundreds. I mean it could be like a thousand.

Speaker 5 (13:12):
Some people have like have them in storage and there
was one that sold.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
For like one hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
I would never be worth anything because I literally take
them out of the box put them in my Christmas trees.
I know, I know, yes, at least it properly. Yeah. Yeah,
the BTS fans came after me when they saw that
I'd taken them out of their box and put them
in my Christmas tree.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Oh my great idea.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yeah, we have a pop tree. It's fun, all your
favorite pop culture moments. It's it's fun. I like it. Yeah,
let's start at the beginning. Where are you from? Were
you from Boston or outside Boston.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
I'm right in Boston, So the new kids were from
the other four were from Dorchester, but Jamaica, playing my
hometown in Dorchester, two towns in Boston and outside of
or anything like that. And yeah, youngest of nine kids,
and we loved performing in theater. There was four blocks

(14:09):
away was the oldest community theater in America, actually the
Foot night Club, And so my mom that was my
mom's get away from her nine kids and her husband
who didn't do.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Things the way she wanted to.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
Put it light and that was we saw how much
fun she had and a lot of us would do
shows there.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
And so that's why when the new kids were looking.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
For and even little they were all fifteen sixteen themselves,
but they wanted like.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
A twelve year old, like a tiny kid.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
They were looking around and I had been doing that
for fun, and and I.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Had a bit of a reputation.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
I guess, like there weren't a lot of kids, you know,
that did theater, and they called around schools.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
And I'd imagine around the Boston area too, because it
feels very like masculine.

Speaker 5 (14:54):
Yeah, yeah, there's not a lot of I mean, I
was lucky enough to have the full night club and
then another thing neighborhood children State or Boston, and it.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Was very it was very diverse.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
I mean, you know, frankly speaking, historically, you know, the
one kid who's gonna do it is a good percentage
he's probably a gay kid who just wants to It's
a safe place for him to like express for himself
and express himself, which is amazing. And that's another thing too.
I mean, you know, I grew up in the theater,
so all all the stereotypes in the bowl that that

(15:27):
gets in the way of just people being people. I'm
grateful for that experience and so but we had a
very diverse kind of all kinds of different kids, you know,
and you know, it was nice to have that outlet
and it wasn't a big deal. It was like, you know,
I like sports and this, that and the other thing,
but I love doing that and so.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, they kind of reached out.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
And I was a little scared because Dorchester was a
tough town and I was.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Like, I'm not going over there. But Mary Starr was
the thing. You know, It's like holy cow. Uh.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
We knew he worked with new addition and that was
that was everything, you know what I mean that that
kind of got your antenna up.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
And we all kind of have the same story.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
You know.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
We meet Maurice, We go up to his you know,
dilapidated brick building in Roxbury and another town in Boston,
and he was a sweetheart and very it was very unceremonious,
and I sang a couple of songs and he's like,
all right, you're good.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
And that was it was just two weeks yeah, two
weeks later.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
I mean, so, how did they how did they find you?
And did your family support this? Yeah? What did your
family thing?

Speaker 5 (16:37):
I know, well that's the thing. It's it's see, I'm
older than you guys. But it was the eighties. In
the nineteen eighties, a six year old could walk to
the bus stop himself and get on the bus and
go to school and everything was okay.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
I mean, it was the perfect of you know, the
street lights come on, did you start heading?

Speaker 5 (16:59):
So it was like so the idea of yes, it
was like, well wait a minute, your parents just no.
This Mary Alford, who was sort of Maurice's sort of
like side woman, so to speak, picked me up, said
hi to my dad and uh yeah, we're gonna go
over to Roxbury. My dad was from Roxbury, so it

(17:20):
was like another neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
And didn't think twice of it. It wasn't a big deal.

Speaker 5 (17:25):
And you know, another kind of piece of the puzzle
of how things were back then.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
And uh so.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
Uh yeah, So we auditioned and and it was it
wasn't like you know, this professional lane we all got in.
It was we were still all going to high school
and trying to you know, well I wasn't even in
high school yet. But it was just I mean, for me,
there's a lot of fitting in, you know what I mean, Like.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
What did you think of the guys when you metause
you know you were when you're that age, A couple
a few years younger, it's like a huge Stufferent was
it intimidating because I can imagine if I was like
thirteen and they were I mean, they were pretty hardcore teenagers.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
They were they were they were cool.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
I mean, I mean back then, the Night Brothers are
pretty pretty chill, you know what I mean on the surface.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
And you know that John Knight's kind of crazy.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
He can get crazy.

Speaker 5 (18:21):
He get once he gets going on's he going He's.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Like a Mac truck. Yeah. But and Danny was pretty chill.
I mean Donnie at.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
At fifteen sixteen, he was you know, rough around their edges,
to put it lightly. So he was that classic case
of he wouldn't let anybody mess with me, But boy
would he mess with me, you know what I mean, Like,
no one's going to mess with me except for me,
you know what I mean. And I think it was
just a situation where he had like six older brothers,
came from a tough family. I had seven older sisters,

(18:56):
so I came from a more sort of emotional I'm
an in background. He was like, you know, fighting for
his supper, you know what I mean. And so there
was that dynamic a little bit. And it wasn't easy,
you know, no matter what. I was the outsider. So
it took a while. It took took a long while,
and but you know, we had a lot of fun too.

(19:18):
We had a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
And were you able to go to school a lot
around manage because when y'all started, you know, it was
a slow grow, like every artist starts, Uh, y'all doing
the Tiffany tour, but you're still doing school at that time, well, you.

Speaker 5 (19:33):
Know, before I mean, it was like three years before
we got our first album came out.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
It was a flop.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
The second album was Pleased We'll Go Girl, and that
was our first hit, and that's when we got Tiffany.
So and I by then I was I had just
finished my freshman year in high school.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Oh, so you were able to go into your fresh.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Toil my freshman year.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
And then that that summer tour was the one that
you know, took off, and that was our big big
break to you know, perform on Tiffany's tour.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
And then you know, the summer is ending, and I.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
Remember the phone calls and I was in my hotel
room and and I called my mom, like at the
end of August, and I was like, Mom, yeah, this
thing is you know, there's another tour happening.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
We're gonna what.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
She was like, couldn't she had no, she couldn't believe,
like this was gonna, you know, continue, and I wasn't
going to go to school.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
But you know, you know, I.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Love that so many bands like us have that that
pop singer that's kind of like Tiffany, New Kids in
Sync and Brittany it was nine eight degrees in Jessica Simpson.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Actually, boys, they didn't have a pop princess. No Christina
Aguilera was there for the picking and they didn't even
do it.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
No B S B. But yeah, I always Germany. Germany
was there.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
You don't know, Blooms, but no, I know Bloom. Now
were you hesittant at all to join this group or
was it such an easy decision like, yeah, freaking doing this.

Speaker 5 (21:06):
Oh. I was very hesitant because I had this nice,
little even community theater thing happening.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Definitely. I was twelve when I joined, so it was
like wow. So we slowly get into it, and it
wasn't easy. You know, it wasn't easy.

Speaker 5 (21:20):
I mean you know now you know years later, you know,
it did tough of me up. I mean I had
a really cushioned life. I was the youngest of nine kids.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
You know.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
My narrative was he's blessed, you know what I mean,
like we're going to take care of him, which was lovely.
But this kind of you know, rough me up a
little bit. And that's what life does to you, and you.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Learned from it.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
You had to grow up quickly, Yeah, because I was
sixteen when I started, and I was so sheltered. You know.
I came from a very small town, never really left
Mississippi that much, and then all of a sudden, I
was just thrust into this crazy music industry, yeah, not
knowing what I was doing, and then moving over to
Germany where it was very open. Yeah, so, yeah, it was.
It was a crazy quick transition into adulthood at sixteen.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
How long? But you moved to Orlando for a little bit.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Were Orlando. We moved there in ninety five, and then
it took us a year to finally get signed, you know,
to Germany. So we then went over there for two years,
and then we came to America in ninety eight. Yeah. Yeah,
so but I mean it was It's the way it
was supposed to happen, because if we came out in
America in ninety six when we wanted to, yea, we

(22:27):
would have never got off there.

Speaker 5 (22:28):
You were, you sort of like, we don't want to
go to Germany.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
I didn't even know what I wanted, you know. I
was just happy we got a record deal, and it
was just confusing, like Germany, Yeah, do they even speak English?
Like I just didn't get it.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yeah, that was.

Speaker 5 (22:40):
That was.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
I had a little peek into that.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
Remember that I was on a like a private jet
with you somewhere to Germany. I mean, yes, I mean
Joey and I Chris talk about it quite often.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
We had a lot of laughs. I mean, you guys
are so funny.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Right away off the back, you know, what was your
first impressions of us, because like, when did you hear that.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
You were funny? That you were funny? I mean, I
didn't really.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
Know the Backstreet Boys that well, and because I for
a second I was talking to Loup Perlman in that world,
and of course Johnny Wright was partners with him, and
and then I ended up not doing it, But in
that period of time of like you know, hanging out
with those guys, you guys were just moving over to

(23:25):
Germany and I think like your first single was just
coming out there.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
So I was there when you It was a.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
Big an Award show and it was like your you know,
first time and you're just funny. You guys were super,
super funny.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
We were ready to have a good time, and we
were still were still wearing those that lycra bike shirt
you know the type.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, slinky shirts yeah before your identity Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Because that was our very first video that Lou Proman
was so excited all in front of green screen and
then yeah, those little slinky shirts, which of course we
couldn't afford wardrobe, so we just had those from the video.
So we wore those every single performance in Germany. And
they would stink so bad because we only had we
didn't have backups. Was it you want one time sweating it?

(24:13):
Hopefully you can wash it that night. My mom, Justin's
mom was on the road with us, So they did
Launts slinky shirt like that.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, there were a lot of that had like stripes
on them too.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Then we we graduated to fresher
slinky shirt. Yes, once we got you know, a little
budget from the rend.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Then you graduated to like the most baggy, ill fitting
clothes ever, well, at least you put you They were
like the last to.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Be dressed because I didn't care, like whatever, and then I, oh,
well we have these uh size forty four us that
you know, uh, And so I was just always in
just horrible baggy stuff.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
How do you feel about being that? Are you? Are
you okay with that era or like fashion wise? I am?

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Now. Then I just thought it was horrible. Yeah, living
in it because you know, the twenties, the fifties, the sixties,
the seventies, eighties, it had such a vibe and you
know exactly what that is. You can look at a
picture and be like, no, the decade. Yeah, living in
the nineties, you're thinking, what the hell is this? Yeah,
I even think this is awful. Now twenty years from now,

(25:18):
look at like, what the hell are we doing? Okay,
and I do look a lot like I still don't
understand some of the things we wore, but now I
think it's kind of fun and ironic to wear that stuff.
But in the time super popular.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Now like the nineties, well makes sense.

Speaker 5 (25:30):
Yeah, the kids, you know, they just identify with you know,
certain things.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
I'm still like, that's still ill fitting, Yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Still ill so many ways.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Oh my god, did you all? I mean, because y'all
actually had good style, especially we did.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
I mean, we had a combination of trying to make
it happen on our own before we had money. Donnie
used to work at a sneaker store and he would
get all our outfits for like a bit of a
discount for every show.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
We tried to pull it together.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
I mean, Danny, Donnie and Jordan would wear each other's clothes.
So we we just saw a batch of pictures and
you could see the same like different kids, you know,
And then we we had a couple of good stylists
early on, for like the those first four videos, and
it just worked.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
It was like New York, you know, village, like really
cool you know spots down there. So it was a
good combination.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
When you said the guy's names, it reminds me. I
don't know if you remember. Maybe it's just in my
hometown radio station that did this. But New Kids got
run over by Reindeer. Yes, okay, you've heard that one. Yeah,
because that was such a huge hit. Yeah, that's how
I knew your guy's names the first time. Was Danny, Donnie,
Jo John Jordan or was it Larry Curly Shepherd? That's yeah,

(26:53):
you made the country.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
It was a country. The dude was country a little bit. Yeah,
he was very bringing that up. That really hit a
yeah one man.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
No one. Now, at one point you said that you
wanted to quit the group early on. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Early I was thirteen, and I was like right at.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
The beginning, like it was Donnie huh.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
No, it definitely was.

Speaker 5 (27:20):
And he was the one who called me and like
convinced me to to stay on. It was it was
partly that, Yeah, it was that, but it was you know,
it just wasn't particularly fun, you know, and I was
just ready to move on and it wasn't there weren't
weren't incredibly high stakes at the at the time. Uh,
it was just I think a lot of kids might

(27:43):
second guests at thirteen, going, I don't know if this
is for me, but he, uh, he told me.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
To hang in there, and and uh the rest is syst.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Dad of the group. And he's I mean, is he
responsible for y'all coming back in two thousand and eight? Like,
was he the first to call everybody?

Speaker 4 (27:59):
Not?

Speaker 5 (27:59):
I wouldn't say no. I think it was a combination.
I mean he's a born leader, no question. I mean,
he started the group and you know, there's no debating
you know what he brings to the table, and he's
a great leader. But we all kind of step up
at different times. I mean we talked about you know,
we had a lot of conversations because lots of times

(28:21):
MTV would come to us and go, we want you
at our award show. You know, all these you know
one offs that you know they didn't and not that
they were supposed to figure it out, but we were
worth more than that, you know, and we knew our worth.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
And especially if you're going to reunion that many years later,
it's got to be it's.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
Got yeah, and on our own terms. And so that's
that's what we figured out. And I think we were
that was our you know, I think give usselves the
most credit in that department that we knew what we
had and if we were going to do what we
were going to do it right. So yeah, it was
a process of things. You know, we talked about it.

(28:57):
You know, we got I had I had met Jared Paul,
our manager, and I think, you know, especially for someone
like Donnie who's you know, has a lot of ideas
and likes to have his hands on the wheel a lot,
which you know, makes sense, you got to have the
right manager, and so I thought he.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Was the right guy.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
So that that was a part of the puzzle as well,
and that's worked out.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
So a lot of little things coming together.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah, was there a moment where you realized, oh my god,
we made it? Like was there that that one like wow,
light bulb moment?

Speaker 2 (29:33):
You know, I was so young, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (29:36):
So I didn't have this, you know, even young adult
experience of like oh this, this, this, this, and then
we did it and then pow, we got it. You know,
it wasn't that kind of experience you know, I still
enjoyed it, and it was amazing. We played the Apollo Theater,
like a lot of things came together. We please Uncle

(29:59):
Girl coming up the charts, you know, we performed at
the Apollo, We won the crowd over. There was a
lot of those moments that were like holy cow, and
that was special, you know, But I don't think it
was that, you know, that cinematic moment for me necessarily,

(30:21):
you know what I mean. I mean, And that's what
makes you know, us getting back together again after so
many years. And by the way, it's been fifteen years
since we got back together, so this time around it.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Is longer than the first time. And so and now
it's just about it's just about the moment.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
I mean, I think we're all figuring that out, you
know what I mean collectively as a society and as people,
Like it's really about the day to day and like
how do we live our lives and how do we
soak up every moment and you know, putting yourself in
a position where you can enjoy those moments more and more.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Well, how do y'all sync up all your schedules because
everyone has such an individual live. Yeah, your priority obviously family, Yeah,
where new kids was always first position her whole life.
But now it's like I got bigger priorities.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
How do y'all sync up your schedule? Is it you
start at the beginning of the year, like, okay, these
are the three months that I can do this.

Speaker 5 (31:14):
Well, it's super easy in the sense that Donnie's been
on Blue Bloods on CBS head show for fourteen years.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
No, that's so it's crazy.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
Crazy, Yeah, I mean, well twelve, twelve or thirteen years,
so those nine months are off the books, you know.
So it's always been a summer thing, and so we've
done every other summer basically, and then the down years
we kind of.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Keep the fires going with special events.

Speaker 5 (31:38):
So that's been built in and easy for us, and
you know, for me, I mean, going over the last
fifteen years, I could tell you that, you know, six
or seven things I've done in that in theater and Broadway,
and now I'm finally fitting in some solo dates, which
is important for me, and you know it is it
is a balance. I mean, it's a wonderful problem to

(31:58):
have to balance, you know, my life and my desires
and wants with an incredibly successful career with the New Kids,
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Now with your solo career that started ninety.

Speaker 5 (32:26):
Nine, ninety nine, Yeah yeah, Jordan and I call it
the battle of ninety nine because we both had solo
albums out.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
I mean they were both were huge, and TRL played
the crap.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
I know, I know it was cool to be a
part of that.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
But why wait, did when you were in the group
the first time, did you ever think because usually you know,
I mean, you were the it guy. I mean you
were the young one that you were the heart throb.
Did ever do you ever think, you know, I want
to try a solo album during all of this hype too.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
No, I don't think they saw me that way, and
I don't think I was ready anyways, And I think the.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Record would be like we're taking you out well, you.

Speaker 5 (33:04):
Know, if you want to get into the weeds on that.
My voice had changed, so I was still it was
the worst way. Like I look at my son, who's
a singer, and like, oh, that's how you gently have
your voice change and keep singing, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
And now he's fifteen and a half, and.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
How it must be. I mean, I've been watching your
son grow up an entertainment, incredible voice. I think he
was in the music video I did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, what what is his path right now? What
are you hoping that he gets to do in the
next few years.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
I that he continues to learn his craft.

Speaker 5 (33:42):
And and you know, I always say my wife and
I the biggest privilege we have is that we were
able to afford to put our kids in him, in particular,
in front of great teachers, in front of great mentors.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
I mean, that's what's more valuable than that.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
So he's he's he's studied under Debbie Allen since he
was two years old, you know what I'm.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Saying, And so he always wanted to be an entertainment
yeah he I don't think did you have a little
reservation at first, Like.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
There's no, not not well, you know, it's really especially
you know, even in the eyes of the law. In
a few years, it's going to be none of my business,
you can, you know. But I have so much respect
for his talent. He the way he plays piano, the
way he's learning guitar, you know, the way he shows
up and he's he's like us, He's he's a he's

(34:34):
already a frustrated musician, you know what I mean, Like
he's just there's no there's no plan.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
B I don't think so, but you never know. I'm
just so.

Speaker 5 (34:44):
He's doing exactly what I think. I I wish maybe
I would have done. You know, he's he's working because
if you can play, there's that you can't put a
number on that, you know, I mean, and and and
if you can accompany.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yourself, that's that's it to me. And he's going to
be more than okay. And he's his own artist.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
And like, you know what if Brian Latrelle came to
you and said, look, let's form the next big super
group of all of our kids. That are the perfect
age to start a new boy band. It's all like
iconic boy band members, their kids are starting a group.
Would he want to do that? And would you want
him to.

Speaker 5 (35:30):
Do would he want to do I don't I'm not
so sure Griffin would want to do that. No, I
think he's too busy, you know, learning Neon by John Mayer,
and he's like he's like, I love his His two
bookends are Justin Bieber and John Mayer, which are pretty
awesome actually and and great examples.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
But yeah. I think he's excited to just find his
own path.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah yeah, all right, cal Brian, we got cancel.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
I want to say before we go an eat further.

Speaker 5 (36:00):
I watched I haven't watched everybody, but I watched and
listened to Jordan when he was on.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
The show, and I loved it. And the thing about
our group.

Speaker 5 (36:10):
Is, you know, you talk about Donnie and how much
of a leader he is, and he's a great storyteller
and really a force in that. And then I love
to tell my stories and I have my own take.
But when you have five kids, as you have five
kids in a group as you can relate to, it's
like there's only so much you can say, and people

(36:31):
take over, and then you're asking a question, You're like, well,
no one else is gonna say.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
I'll keep talking. But it was so great to hear
Jordan's like, after.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
All these years, we still have so many so much
to talk about, and so many sides of our story,
even personally, which is so wonderful. And I heard so
much stuff. You know, as a fan, you know, I'm
a fan of those guys. I'm a fan of my bandmates,
and like, it was so fun to hear.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
That aspect, it was just really good.

Speaker 5 (37:06):
And the same with John, Like we're also through for John,
you know what I mean, like his passion and what
he's doing, and like it's pretty cool to be a
part of a band that like there's still so much there,
you know, to to to share and express and and well.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
And also because there's so many times I'm talking to
other members of different groups in my group where I
thought the story was this way and it was completely
not what I like live through And it's crazy how
you your brain makes you remember things a completely different way. Yeah,
it's it's really weird.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
It's very cool.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
You know, we're old, that's what happens.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
I also like that he very quietly dropped that we're
doing another album and another toy Nex.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Yeah, like very we planned these things. Yeah, we plan
these things very quietly. We make it so it seems
like the fans decide.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Yeah, it's just like that listens to you.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Just bringing out of people, You just bringing out of people.
It's very very tricky.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yeah. Okay, so I'm sure y'all have spent many holidays
on the road in the last you know, decades. My
first time not being home for Thanksgiving was a little
hard for me. You know, I was young, and I'm like,
you're so used to well, I'm home with my family,
and it was so weird for me to be in
Vegas for the first time doing Thanksgiving with all these

(38:29):
people from all over the world. And you know, it's
not the Thanksgiving dinner I usually have. There's now Italian
food at my Thanksgiving dinner. What that's weird?

Speaker 2 (38:37):
That's not right, right? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Thanks joe the other joe Y, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Do you have any great memories of holidays on the road.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
Well, this is probably a good version of that, because
actually we did in nineteen eighty nine.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
We something we'd never do because you'd be like, when
are we going to sleep? How are we going to
do that?

Speaker 5 (39:01):
It was Thanksgiving nineteen eighty nine. That night we played
Madison Square Garden, which I mean again goes to show
how popular we were because who plays Madison Square Garden
on Thanksgiving nights and where a kid act?

Speaker 2 (39:18):
So it's like, how dare you? You know what I mean?
But of course it was sold out and everybody was there.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
But we did the Thanksgiving Day parade that morning, and
so all of our families from Boston came down to
New York and so we did the Thanksgiving Day parade.
I still remember that, like nap. It was the greatest
snap I ever had in my life.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Was because Thanksgiving Day parade you either hate it or
love it. Did y'all have a good time.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
I it was early.

Speaker 5 (39:48):
I've done it once, you know again since you know,
and it was a little bit more fun.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
But it was fun. I think it was.

Speaker 5 (39:55):
It's such an iconic thing, especially back then and still now.
So it was fun to be on a well you're
waving and you know, everybody looks goofy and that frickin things.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Does anybody ever look cool in the thanks really?

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Yeah? It was thirty degrees, yeah, raining it was just
it was yes, yes, but if it was nice weather,
yeah I could.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
See, yeah it was. But we all came down like
and we come from big families.

Speaker 5 (40:21):
So we had a big dinner and I was actually
just remembering it and like afterwards, like there was a
grand piano in the hotel and Jordan's sitting down at
the piano and playing songs and we're all singing, and
then we go play Madison Square Garden that night.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
That's that's pretty.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
That's a pretty big sense. That's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
So that's pretty pretty special, remember that one. I think
I think overall it was just tough to be away.

Speaker 5 (40:46):
You know, it's not it's not normal, right, it's not
normal like what we went through.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
And the younger you are, the less normal it is.

Speaker 5 (40:55):
And there is definitely some I mean for me anyways,
arrested development. You have for all the time that you
weren't in a regular school and hanging out with your
buddies and making dumb mistakes, you had to make up
for that at some point in your life, in which
I did, and luckily I had a safety net, and
you know, with family and I didn't.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
You know, would you would you say?

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Your family's what kept you so down to earth because
starting at twelve, Yeah, people get the Michael Jackson syndrome
of you know yes, yes, yes, yes, never hearing a no,
and they have no concept of reality. Uh and can
get really spoiled and you know, but with you, I
just see you very down to earth your whole entire career.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Is it the boys and the band?

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Just no, it was both and I'm sure you can
relate to that.

Speaker 5 (41:42):
I mean, when you have other band members and there's
five of you and your your equals for the most part,
you know, it's like you never get too big for
your breeches. Yeah, it's like you feel the heat when
you try to, you know, and you're like, like, what
did you just Yeah was the youngest. I have seven
older sisters and very strong women, So yeah, yeah, that

(42:04):
was That was part of that. And you know, it
was lucky enough to you know, have parents around that
you know, knew how much of a gift it was
and celebrated it.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
But also, you know, you know that that being said.

Speaker 5 (42:16):
We're all lucky right to have survived it, you know,
as much as all those things came together.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
It's just like sometimes it feels like the luck of
the draw.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Did your band members hit on your sisters because they.

Speaker 5 (42:30):
Were older and the guys in the band that were
looking for girls had elsewhere to look, you know?

Speaker 1 (42:37):
So I just wonder if you were like, get away,
get away.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
No, no, it's going no, no, no no.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Do you remember the first big purchase you made? Oh?

Speaker 5 (42:46):
Yeah, you know, we all were excited to, you know,
do things for our family, you know what I mean,
and we we I wrote checks for my siblings and
bought a Cadillac for my dad, and yeah, I was cool.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
What was your first big Toyota full Runner? And I
wanted like that was my dream car, you know when
I was a freshman in high school and I was like,
if I ever make it, I'm gonna get a Toyota
Full Runner. It's gonna be silver. And I did it. Oh,
it took me a few years.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Ninety what it was probably.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
It was a ninety probably ninety eight, ninety nine. Yeah,
and we finally got h little yeah paid, someone still
didn't cover it, but whatever. I had a good down
payment I put on it. Yeah, but yeah, that was
my first Like that's when I felt, oh, I'm an adult.
I bought my own car. I don't have a Buick
Century anymore with a broken tail light. This is gonna

(43:41):
be big, guys, big. Do you remember your first car?

Speaker 2 (43:45):
We all did a signing. This was very early on.

Speaker 5 (43:49):
It was like our first summer on tour and someone
was like, there's a Suzuki Sidekick dealership. If you come
down and sign autographs for uh an hour, you can
have a Suzuki side Kick just for a month, though,
just for a month, just for a month, which for
a kid like, oh my god, and I just you know,

(44:11):
back then, I just hope my son doesn't because he's
doing it the right way. He's just like my son's
fifteen and a half, my oldest son, Griffin, and he
was counting the day so he could get his permit.

Speaker 6 (44:23):
You know, some kids are like whatever, he was fifteen
and a half when you take the test, and now
he can drive with us in the car, and then
by sixteen he can drive like himself.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
Which is scary because even I mean, our kids are
twenty months okay, And I keep thinking about it, and
I do not want them to drive a car. And
I'm thinking, well, by the older man being a drivers
in cars, yeah, hopefully it's just gonna be automated. But
does that scare the crap out of you it?

Speaker 5 (44:58):
I mean no, I can understand, like the thought of
it scares me, but when you're actually in it, it
doesn't totally.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
And of course I'm driving around, I'm like, well, I
have to be a good example. And all I keep
saying is.

Speaker 5 (45:10):
Don't do that, don't do that, don't do don't do
what I just did. But I trust him. I trust him,
I think, you know. Of course I'm going to tell
him when he's right. It's like you're going to get
in an accident, and when it happens, don't freak out.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Call us.

Speaker 5 (45:26):
We'll take care of it. It's all good, you know.
That's the odds are something's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Yeah, so we did. Uh god, well, who makes the
PT Cruiser? Chrysler? Hey, I guess. We did a Chrysler
show and it was one of my favorite One of
my favorite memories of us as a group was we
did this Chrysler show and our payment and it was
for employed. I don't know what it was for, but
our payment was two cars each. Yeah, not just for

(45:50):
a month. That literally gave us a PT Cruiser and
then one of the other sports cars.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
I thought that was the coolest moment. And did I
drive them? I drove the PT Cruiser for maybe two
months and that was it. Because we never lived in Orlando, Yeah,
we just never were there, so they just kind of
sat there forever. But I thought that was such a
baller thing. Yeah, I would think the same thing. Yeah,
I think I would have rather taken the cash.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
But remember the collar. They were all purple, weren't they.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Both of gray? My pet cruiser is great, and then
whatever the other one was. My cousin had a purple
pet cruiser, Yeah, a PT cruiser telling that story. Wait
what is that from? Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Paul McCartney was getting divorced from Heather Mills and she
had this publicist woman and she was like always on
all like the news channels, like talking about it, like
trying to I No. She was like, I mean she's
saying she has no money and but whatever, but she
drives a pet cruiser. I mean I saw driving down
the streets and a friend new PT cruiser and like

(46:51):
the host in America like it is like, okay, like
it's really not that.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Big of a deal. It's a pet cruiser. Like it
doesn't mean anything. You've made it. You made what I thought, Like.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
I know, my cousin had one for like a year
and he just hated it so much that Baby Hurst
called the piece of ship cruiser.

Speaker 5 (47:07):
Yeah, I mean it's a lot, you know, you can't like,
you know, in a PT cruiser.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
But I have a turn on a dime though. You
need to look at hot wheel and I love hot
wheels a kid whole muscle. We do have a question

(47:36):
speaking of Black Con, which I love. Cons are huge
now it's.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
The new It's like podcasts. Everyone has is mister Khan.
He's every sack.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Yeah, I know, I still have not done one yet,
you haven't. I know he's been trying, he's he's never
done an. It would be fun because I love cons.
I don't like the idea of having to take pictures
for hours, like I get really, I don't it just
I get really antsy. I could do it for a

(48:08):
couple hours, be fine, But when he was like, yeah,
you sait there for nine, I was like, no.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
I don't think I could do that.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
And he has a break in between, but I just
I don't know, but it's it's hard to smile that long.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
It just yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
So that's what kind of deterred me from ever doing
something like that. But I think it'll be fun, like
when you have the next block con. I think taking
frosted tips to something like that, having fun Like that's.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
How I would love to do a con done.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Yeah, like bring the show, have fun to give you
people you know, and then that will be my contribution
to con and I get to enjoy it. We're actually
gonna I didn't even tell you this, We're going to
go to Comic Con this year, San Diego.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Does he tell you things? Know, it doesn't have anything.
It'll be like he's like, oh, by the way, you're
going to the event.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
You know he was coming today until like five minutes
before we left. Okay, yeah I did, but e going to.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
But oh yeah, I didn't tell you. So it's like
something that would be a huge, like life changing thing.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Oh yeah, I didn't tell you.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm the I'm the planner in the family.
How about what's your dynamic with your wife?

Speaker 5 (49:14):
Uh, it's a mix, It's a mix. She's phenomenal in
the greatest mom ever. So like the way she balances
and juggles their schedules is out of control.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
How do you think I when I came out here
to do a TV show twenty twenty years ago? Now,
she was my real estate broker. Oh no, the rest
history married a year to the day we met. Wow,
every day felt like a year because I was falling
in love. But otherwise it happened pretty fast.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
What show would you come out here for?

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Boston?

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Public?

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (49:56):
I remember that.

Speaker 5 (49:57):
Yeah, in public, I always said I've never come a
back to LA without a gig.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Yeah, yeah, sure enough, I got a gig and I here.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
What is your relationship with La? You know again, it's
kind of like you love it or hate it.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Yeah, it's weird.

Speaker 5 (50:12):
I mean sometimes I'm like, oh, it's weird for a
Boston guy, East Coast guy. It always it feels like home,
you know, it just feels like home.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Now.

Speaker 5 (50:21):
I had my moments years ago. We're like, I'm never
coming out here. It's so big.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
I'm lonely.

Speaker 5 (50:26):
You know, the audition went wrong, no one likes but
blah blah blah. But you know, the community out here,
my friends out here, I think. I think there's so
much too.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
You know.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
That's good for the soul out here, and and it
just it fits.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
It can be. It's about the people you surround yourself with,
what your ambitions are, because you can, I mean it's
a melting pot of everything absolutely get into anything. Yeah,
you've done tons of amazing acting, right, but what is
the next step for you? Is there? Are you trying
to get another show right now? Do you rather do movies?
Like what fits in your schedule? Are you going to
do Broadway again.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
I think I do have a.

Speaker 5 (51:08):
I originated a role in a show called The Wanderer,
which is on the track to Broadway. But like there's
eighteen thousand shows getting into Broadway. But we have great
producers and things are building.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
So that's what you want, because that's how you get
your Tony got to originated.

Speaker 5 (51:26):
Okay, yeah, it lives to God's zas No, yeah, but
I mean yes in this state. As to your point,
you know, in theater, you know there's certain things you'd
love to get a chance to do. So originating a
role is special, you know, it's checking that box.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
People don't understand how long it takes to show five.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
I've been in this for five years.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
There's no money in Broadway people, there's no It is
a love.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
That's true. Zero zero, yeah, zero.

Speaker 5 (51:54):
My buddy Mike Martella, who's the star of the show.
It's about Dion and the Belmontster, and he plays Dion
and and he got all the great reviews from the
New York Times. We got everything we need to go
into Broadway. And now it's just finding the right house
and the right times, you know. But so there's that,
you know, put a lot of time into doing these

(52:15):
solo dates. I'm doing like well, So I started the
year at Carnegie Hall. I did Carnegie Hall for my
I just turned fifty, so I thought I'd do something
special and it was amazing. So I kind of put
myself on the hook and said, how about I do
fifty shows fifty for fifty And of course a week
later I was.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Like, why did I say that?

Speaker 2 (52:37):
And then I said, no one cares, Joe. No one cares,
first of all.

Speaker 5 (52:41):
And then so but I'm getting I'm getting to it.
So you know I'm doing I'm going to a couple
of weeks. I'm doing Dublin and Cologne, Germany, which is
one of my favorite cities, and a couple of shows
in London, and I'm doing about twenty in July and
the States.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
So that's a it's a heavy lift.

Speaker 5 (53:00):
Yeah, it is a heavy lift, and it's something that
I have to do. It's one of those things the
only way you can do it is if it's something
you have to do, because if there's any wishy watching this, yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
You're going to stay home. Put yourself through that.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Yeah. So the Solo Joe Summer Tour, how do we
get tickets for that.

Speaker 5 (53:16):
Joey McIntyre dot com is the best way and all
the dates are there and you know, thank god, it's
it's going well and the fans keep chilling for me.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
You never know until you put them on sale.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
But uh, there's definitely some some ticks left in some cities,
so check it.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Out you prefer because with me, I had never never
wanted to be solo, Like I just don't. I don't
like the idea of me just being by myself on
stage trying to entertain everyone. I liked being a part
of the group. Yeah, that was what was fun for me.
Do you have a preference of being in the group
or solo?

Speaker 5 (53:46):
You know, there's such a beauty to being a part
of the New Kids, you know what I mean. I
love these guys, you know, I get the feet off them.
I get to, you know, have another chance over and
over again to you know, bounce things off them and
learn from them and enjoy their company and on.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
And on and on.

Speaker 5 (54:06):
And I play a very you know, important role in
that group and every show I give one hundred and
ten percent. And I have my moments and I build
those moments and try to keep them fresh. And it's wonderful,
But having a stage to myself for an hour and
a half to do exactly what I want to do
is very thrilling, very important in the connection I make

(54:31):
with the audience is a very unique experience.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
So it's it's important they both feed each other.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Let's talk about the fans a little bit, because you
know the show is all about the fandoms there and
everyone's crossing over.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Yeah, was there ever a part of.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Your career and maybe right after like new Kids, you know,
when y'all had split the first time, was ever a
part where you were disappointed with the reaction of the
fans because I know when we ended and I did
a few like solo things, all that felt like all
the Insynct fans just like left. I just it felt
like crickets. And I'm like, where did all of y'all go? Like,

(55:07):
why aren't I feel like zero support? Then I'm thinking, well,
I mean they were the age where now they're having
families that I like, they're not paying attention to their
teen idols. Yeah, but I felt a little abandoned for
a bit. Now I see them like they're I feel
the Insynct love and I feel well, especially with social media.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Before you didn't really have that gate film that tame.

Speaker 5 (55:29):
As time as everythings everything, And so now your fans
are the age of what our fans were in two
thousand and eight.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
When we came back.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Exactly, they were like, yes we need now they want.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
I won't get started. What you guys need to do?

Speaker 1 (55:44):
What do you think we literally, I mean, I'm an
agree with to give us the rollout? How would you
bring in sync back?

Speaker 5 (55:49):
Well, you probably should have already been back with or
without Justin period.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Clearly there's an audience, there's no black and white.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Yeah, we all love all of you.

Speaker 5 (56:01):
Justin's amazing. And if he comes in for a couple
of gigs here and they're fine. But the four of
you are very talented, can all sing, can all step up?
And I think it already could have been happening. But
I understand you have a solo artist who's a massive superstar,
and that's part of the equation. So I'm not gonna

(56:22):
attempt to think I know how that works. But I
know you fans where they are right now, and and
so of course you know, and I and I we
all hope and pray, and.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
I know I'm still holding got.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Look, I've always hat like the fans deserve something, for sure.
I just think we're just idiots, Like we really are
just idiots. I agree, because it easily could have happened
over the years.

Speaker 5 (56:45):
But I see, though, is that what you don't have.
The thing is, there's so many times that we're like.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Freaking Donnie, you know what I mean, she's.

Speaker 5 (56:55):
Such a control freak, like he's gotta but he is
a leader.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
You guys don't have a leader, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
And that's okay, very much. Just a democracy, that's a
that And.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
And democracy is tough, as we know in this world,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (57:10):
So and and even though we have a lot of
say and we're gonna bump heads and and and you know,
I'm I'm not trying to say that, Donnie, it's it's all,
it's not. But he's the part of having things work
is giving that person permission to lead that, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
We have that.

Speaker 5 (57:28):
We have that, and we have Jordan Knight, who's an
incredible lead singer but doesn't need to say much.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
You know.

Speaker 5 (57:35):
It's all those things that like connect and work, and
it's lightning in a bottle. But I think, you know,
I'm sure you guys are gonna work it out. Please
the world needs, you know, for you really needs I know,
but the world you'll be surprised. It sounds so corny,
but like and and I can't believe I'm saying it
because I'm such a cynic, and I should say it

(57:57):
more because I've witnessed it. But like the world needs
those kind of moments, you know. And and it's such
a good will and it'll be an INSNC party for
as long as you want it to be.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
But I get it, I get it. Life happens, you know.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
It's all about the timing, I think, And you know,
when the opportunity presents itself, I think I think it
could easily happen because we're all super close.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
It's it's just about when you guys are ready.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Just it's not like, oh I don't talk to this part.
It's just we all are. We've been remained so close forever. Yeah,
but we're just dumb. Yeah, we're just dumb. We just
don't know how to communicate. We're a little dumb. Mayor
Ray Rare. But maybe one day let's get us some

(58:53):
fan questions here because Christina again our girl Christina. She
was at block Con last weekend. He said absolutely killed it.
During the concert was a son a fun set list
with old, new and deep cut songs. The question is,
would you ever seriously consider recording Please Don't Go Girl
in your adult Joe voice? We all love the original,
but blockheads need an updated version, their updated live performances recordings,

(59:18):
and there is a new Kids on the Block BSB
mash up, but not a true proper full length, full
song release. Since it's the fifteenth ANNIVERSI of Reunited, I
know the fans would absolutely love this. Would you rerecord it?

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Let's go right like pull a Taylor Swift Records for
a long time baby.

Speaker 5 (59:35):
Oh no, I've heard that before. There's sort of like
one of my many projects is you know, back to
Carnegie real quick. But we did a three hour concert.
It was amazing and I had all these great guests,
and I thought one of my projects will be cool
to record that set list, which one of them would
be Please Don't Go Girl. But I hear you, and

(59:59):
thank you, thank you for asking me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Maybe Christmas present?

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Yes, okay? Was it weird? I mean because and justin
When we started, he was fourteen, and his voice was,
you know, just changing at that point. So when you
hear I want you back turned on my heart as
a higher voice. You you were thirteen when you first started.

Speaker 5 (01:00:16):
Thirteen fourteen. I thank god my voice didn't change until I.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Was like fifteen.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Yeah, so you got. I recorded Please.

Speaker 5 (01:00:23):
Don't Go Girl when I was fourteen, and then it
was bloody murder.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
So when their voice did change, what happened? Like, what
was that transition?

Speaker 5 (01:00:31):
I had to stop singing Please don't Go Girl? And
when I sang and it was like dropped down. I
sing it lower than how I sing it now, which
is not original, but it's had a good spot where
you feel the fields.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
But back then it was like what's so no go?
It was like, God, bless me.

Speaker 5 (01:00:47):
I look back and I go, yeah, I really do,
because like I was going so hard, we all were,
but like my voice was changing and I was going
through puberty. Everybody else was already through puberty. I was like,
it was like, thank god, it wasn't worse.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
What was it like being a teen idol? You know
in that era? Because I feel like that was the
last amazing era to be a teen idol because it
was a little more innocent.

Speaker 5 (01:01:11):
Yeah, no, social media classic way of yeah, the Big Barber,
the magazine.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it was cool. I mean
it was uh, it was it was a whirlwind.

Speaker 5 (01:01:23):
I'm sure it felt the same way you know that
that it felt for you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
You know some some.

Speaker 5 (01:01:29):
People say, well, was it better without social media or
is it better?

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Well without social media, like a story would last three
or four weeks.

Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
Now something bad could happen, but five minutes later something
else is going to come along.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
So it's like, but at least back then you could
get away with so much. No one saw, no one
was videos us everywhere you went.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
But rumors would fly so easily back then, and it
would destroy people's careers. Like I don't know if you
know the Carol Channing story.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
We tell tell the story, good thing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
You know, it's like corn, why don't have corn? And
it render her career for years because of that one
stupid little rumor she.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Was gonna have clown.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
This is it's a total like Richard, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Apparently Carol Channon was in a bathroom and someone was
sitting in the bathroom next to her and they just
heard her like this, and then Karen, when did I
have corn like looking at her pood?

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
But that story does went everywhere and now like, yeah
we did.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
She get in good jobs for years because of that
one stupid rumor. And I remember in our town it
was a huge rumor about you guys of course, you know,
being gay. Oh, Jordan Knight was the one that of
course he was like, oh found out he's gay, and
it's the worst thing you could ever But that's like
with every feel like boy band.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
Of course, Well that's one good thing that they don't
call you gay.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
That's how you know, you make something that we can
actually relate to. As a straight guy, you kind of
know what it's like to be gay in public because
people just like, oh, you're a oh you're you know,
you're gay, and they treat you like you were. So
you kind of got a lot of that brunt. I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
I mean, I don't know if I got that brunt
a bit.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
I feel like it was bigger during your time that
like like in the nineties.

Speaker 5 (01:03:14):
Yeah, yeah, I can't imagine, though I have one small
experience with that. And it's funny, you know, when you
go through something you have even though I had empathy,
and I feel like I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Just a simple citizen of the community for all people,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:03:33):
And and but I was doing cabaret and I was
playing the MC, and the MC is by the end
of the shows, he's in drag, yeah, you know, and
I'm sharing in the you know, taking some selfie's getting
ready and the whole thing. And I don't normally we're

(01:03:56):
just talking about it. I don't normally read people's replies,
you know what I mean. If I read them, they're
like direct messages. It's just all good because the other stuff,
what's the point, you know, for the most part. And
they just had my worst nightmare, you know, seeing me
in makeup the worst nightmare. And it was heavy, and

(01:04:19):
that show is so heavy anyways, and like just walking
from the dressing room to the stage in drag, you know,
that whole idea of like this is me, you know,
even for that moment, it's so heavy, so heavy, Like
I'm so grateful for that moment though, like of course

(01:04:39):
in the moment, you're like.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
You just want to, you know what I mean, like
teach people, help whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:04:45):
But like but like that moment of like that empathy
to like walk in those shoes and like even for
a second experience when you when you when you realize,
like you know, your thought was like no, I can't
relate to that. I'm here for you, but I can't
relate to that. But then when you put in a
position where you're like, oh yeah, a moment I can

(01:05:08):
relate to it, It's like whoa, it's pretty heavy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
So yeah, it just it intrigues me the hate for
drag queens and trans people right now, because I felt
like the last ten years, there's so much acceptance, right
I mean, it's like there'st gender transitions, like and everyone's like,
oh now we know what this is and we you know,
an example, and it felt like everyone was loving and
supporting the community. Then all of a sudden, it's just
like there. I mean, it is the worst thing to

(01:05:33):
be a drag queen or a trans person right now.
And I just feel like there's such a big group
of people that are trying to destroy their lives right
It's horrible.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
What's interesting to me?

Speaker 5 (01:05:43):
And I don't know if this is the topic, I
don't know how it feels heavier all of a sudden,
but I'm I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
I think I get how you know, I just did
Drag the musical, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:05:58):
What I mean, and I saw how hard these people
work and what they do on heels, you know what
I mean, And it's phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
And I get how a person.

Speaker 5 (01:06:09):
That that lives that way and and and walks that
road is going to be behind everything.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
I think.

Speaker 5 (01:06:18):
I think the trans to me, Drag and trans are different.
I see how those communities are there for each other,
and you know, I see how it it for people
it needs to be black and white. And I'm not
defending anybody, but I think I think that's part of

(01:06:39):
I don't know how to do.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
I don't know if this is the.

Speaker 5 (01:06:42):
Podcast for it, first of all, but thank you for
letting me share like I want to be as as
someone who is I feel part of the community and
and stands up for rights and of every walk of life.
You know, there's just I don't know if there maybe
there is some gray area and that that feels like

(01:07:05):
a dangerous, controversial thing, but I I think a start
of it is to have that conversation. So thank you
for at least listening. And maybe no one's going to
hear this because you'll cut it out.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
But but.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
But I think it's important. I guess what I'm saying is,
can we have a discussion about because because I would
guess that there are people in this community that aren't
sure where they stand in all of it, and because

(01:07:40):
it's heavy stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:07:42):
A person who is is trans it's heavy, right, There's
a lot of decision making. There's a lot of decision
making and and I can't imagine going through that. But
I think part of the education hat of that is

(01:08:04):
having a dialogue. We always talk about dialogue.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Right, but no one's listening. And that's the thing.

Speaker 5 (01:08:08):
It's like I said, like I'd love to have that
discussion where we're not going to get in trouble to.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Go Okay, yeah, let's ask questions.

Speaker 5 (01:08:19):
Black and white. Yeah, it seems black and white. It
seems black and white. And I don't know if it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
Is anytime or political season is coming, it's always the
l g B, t q I a community attacked, and
it's always and here's a look over there. Always about
the children. So same sex marriage children, it's gonna indoctrinate children,
it's gonna run, No one's gonna get pregnant. There will
be the end of society. Right, well, we've had marriage

(01:08:47):
for a long time and we're still the same. But again,
now you know, trans and drag queen children children, it
is it's turning children gay, it's their molesting children. It's
all about the kids. So no one's listening once they think, oh,
I got to protect the children from this rainbow.

Speaker 4 (01:09:03):
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
And of course drag queens are the most sensitive.

Speaker 4 (01:09:06):
Peoplethet It's like, if it's not appropriate for kids, it's
not appropriate, whether it's a drag, whether drag or with
all the crap on on your phone, oh my gosh,
on YouTube video game that like, like, let's pass some
laws that might be there some films.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Basically, drag queens are comedians, right, Are we banning every
comedian out there that has curse words in their set
or talk about sex in their set. I mean we're
not doing that, or like every song.

Speaker 5 (01:09:35):
Like that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
I mean every song is a sexual innuendo nowadays, and
kids listen to it like nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
It's you know, yeah, it's all thank you for't.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
We appreciate such because it is about just conversations and
I don't know all the right answers or even the
right questions. But we can't be afraid to be wrong
and be afraid to ask that question. Yeah, because that's
how we're going to learn. Yeah. And and people are
too quick, and even in my community, so quick. If
you say like just one little wrong thing, I know,

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they chomp on you and they try to cancel your
own people and you're like just hold off, like, let's yeah,
I might have said something wrong. Educate me on why
I can't say that anymore, you know, talk about it,
talk about it. That everyone's listening to attack mode nowadays,
it's like everyone's on edge. Everyone's on everyone's on edge,
everyone's on edge. Uh, let's get to some fun fan
questions instead. Uh. We kind of touched on this, but

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Schaeffer Laura has asked any Broadway plans in the future,
and what role would you want to play beside your originated.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the role. Just to touch on
it for a second, it is, it is. It does
feel role of a lifetimey.

Speaker 4 (01:10:43):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
It's a pretty heavy character and it's a lot of fun.
What did I There's there's a famous musical called Carousel
and there's a there's a.

Speaker 5 (01:10:58):
Dad role there and he's a angry guy, and he's
a heavy roll and there's a song that he sings soliloquy,
which is like a six and a half minute song
and about having a you know, his wife is about
to have a baby, and so I always think of that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
You know, Chicago keeps running in New York for like
three years. I know, and I have friends that are like,
you should play Billy Flynn. It's a blast if you
want to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
So it's kind of yeah, it's kind of a write
of passage for a lot of actors. Yeah, that is
kind of the such a fun.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
Role, yeah play Yeah, so maybe maybe that one.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
And I was going to do that role and then
Hairspray offer me something different and I just I was
just more attracted to Hairspray. I just just loved that
show and it was right when the movie was coming out,
and I'm like, yeah, this is my path.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Yeah here.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
So I never got to do Chicago.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
So when was the moment that you realized I already
asked that. Look, I'm already asking your fan questions out there,
Victoria Fields O three. The moment you realized NKOTB was big? Yeah,
that was a slow girl for me. It was doing
the Rosie O'donald show.

Speaker 5 (01:12:07):
Well, it's funny you say that because I said, Oprah
asked me that question, that exact question, and I said,
we found out we were going to be on Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Yeah, Oprah didn't have us on for a very long time,
so it was we were on Jay Leno all those
But something about that show, and I'm like, if we're
on that, people know who we are. Well, Rosie back
in the day that was I guess she looked she did,
but she didn't have his own forever.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
But then she had a whole like special with you.
I remember I went to an amusement park.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
I remember, well that's when I because I remember I
had it was a stomach virus or something. I remember
it put me in the hospital for like a couple
of days. We're on tour, but we were at Universal
Studios in Orlando or maybe Sea World in one of
those places, and Rosie Yah had we were at the
theme park and we had red roller coasters. But there's
a place in Orlando where they had zingers the oh Chicken,

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what does that call?

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
Have?

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
I forgotten the name of that restaurant. Anyway, there's these
really spicy yeah, like fried chicken that and it's one
called Mount Saint Helen's and it really burns. Oh, I
like it, Alehouse, Alehouse, and so I wanted Rosie to
try him. So we had, you know, as we're shooting
the show, we're trying to we had to completely stop

(01:13:21):
shooting because she almost died eating this damn thing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Before what's the Chicken show with the guys eating chicken
in the interview with the hot hot Yeah, yeah, Justin
did that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
I would fail. I would I would be good at it. Yeah.
I think I could.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
Sweat so preusely. If I have anything spicy, I just
love it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
I'm a grown up around New Orleans, Like it's just
spice by spicy space ice spice. All right, before I
let you go, Joe, what are you binging on TV?
Right now?

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
What do we need to be watching?

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
What are you watching?

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Kind of pressed?

Speaker 4 (01:13:57):
Guys?

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Six is over and I was not pleased with the
last four episodes.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
Watching the finale. Did you like it? Very end?

Speaker 7 (01:14:12):
Because I will tell you the end, but I just
felt like, you know, the last like the last four
episodes really like two of the last four, the first
two of the last four.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
It was just like they were just sitting there saying
the same lines.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Yeah, I mean we're gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Yeah, yeah, we're good. Yeah yeah, we're gonna get it
the whole episode.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:14:34):
And I love them to dad, and like I was
like so and I and I hate as a performer,
like you know, Katriking at all because like, how dare you?

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
But you know, it was, it was. It was tough
because the season started.

Speaker 5 (01:14:48):
I was like, oh my god, this season it started, yeah,
you know, on and on the like first you know,
three four, five episodes and then.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
Yeah, I was I can't believe it wasn't spoiled for
me a certain death just in case I was listening.
It was not because usually, I mean on social media
find out everything in the Procession is one of those
shows where we have to start watching now because everyone's
talking about it. Yeah, but it was not. It was
not for me.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
Yeah, get yeah the last episode, All.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
Right, what song do you have stuck in your head?
Or give us an artist that you're loving right now
that maybe we don't know about.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Maybe we don't know, but I'm not that cool.

Speaker 5 (01:15:27):
Yeah, it's funny, my you know, my kids are you know,
like I said, Griffin's obsessed with John Mayer at the moment,
which is a cool person to be obsessed with. And
my daughter who's twelve today, her Too Afternoon Tea is
our traditions.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
With our daughter.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Really, yeah, it's a tradition. Yeah, it's really cool. She's
crazy about Taylor Swift of course.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
Of course, have you seen the toy yet?

Speaker 4 (01:15:59):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
You know, we're trying to Yeah, we can to get it,
get get her in and we'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
It's so hard.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
It's like these horror stories of people that can't get in.
Can you imagine?

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
I know, I mean it's so crazy massive.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
She could do it twice as many stadiums, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
I mean, how much is she going to clear on
this one? Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
I read like she's gonna might add five hundred million
to her network. It's gonna make it from that one sweatshirt. Yeah,
from the one sweatshirt. Because literally her tour is making
well over a billion dollars.

Speaker 5 (01:16:35):
It's I mean, she makes great music and it's and
it's stunning how she's been able to keep her demo
and still really genuinely identify with these young kids that
are coming out.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
It's awesome she's doing it right, She's doing it right.
I we love Taylor Swift and she loves when celebrities
come to the tour. So I'm sure you could easily.

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
Ah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
Maybe your mom's a fan.

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
Angle Yeah, all right, Now what film do we need
to be watching?

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Film?

Speaker 5 (01:17:10):
I just watched a startup documentary on the plane and
had to come home and rent it. It's called Uh
Turn Every Page, and it's about this two guys, they're
both almost ninety years old. One wrote this. This writer
bought Robert Carrow c A R. O. In like the seventies.

(01:17:33):
He wrote this book which was like seven hundred and
fifty pages. It's called The Power Broker, and it's about
this developer in New York and he started off with
great intentions and then he became this monster who tore
up all of New York and put highways.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
Through Harlem, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:17:48):
Yeah, And so that was a big book. And then
he decided to keep writing about power but through Lyndon
Johnson LBJ. So he wrote four books of LBJ over
the last thirty years. It takes seven years to write him.
So it's about him and his editor and they talk
about how like everything means the most, as important as

(01:18:13):
a semi colon, is as important as.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
The first chapter. So how these two guys work with
each other.

Speaker 5 (01:18:19):
And it's really a wonderful and it's inspiring because when
you look at people who take so long to do something,
it's super inspiring. And then I'm very proud of myself
that I went. I'm usually when my kids go to movies,
I'm like, you guys, go and I'll walk around for
two hours because I'm all good. But I went and

(01:18:40):
saw Dungeons and Dragons.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
Oh yeah, so good. It's on the plane. Yeah, I've
been wanting to watch it, but I'm only seeing it
on a plane. But I need it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
You want to big that kind of a movie, You
want it big, And then I.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
End up not watching the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
It was really fun. It was really fun. I haven't
seen Top Gun because I.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
Haven't seen it other small that they were avatar, Like,
I don't watch these movies because I'm waiting to see
it on a big screen, and then we don't.

Speaker 5 (01:19:05):
She just rent the theater and watch and my Blockbusters
that we missed the please do that. Yes, chop Gun,
but Dundeons and Dragon's was great. There's a couple of
the acting was great.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
The writing was great. It was funny in this, in
the in the special effects.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
We're great. So you know we're loving right now. The
Bridgerton spin off Queen Charlotte. Uh it is, and I
you know we watched Bridgerton, but you know it was
it was like Queen Charlotte to me is the acting
is incredible. I mean just the design, everything is beautiful.
So I highly recommend Shanda Rhymes. She knows what she's doing.

Speaker 5 (01:19:44):
Yeah, by the way, before before we wrap up here,
I I'm not really one for like, oh I have
a good sign.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
I don't like my my my profile.

Speaker 5 (01:19:55):
So unfortunately the whole time I've been looking at you,
we got the camera, my brother and I recently discovered that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Okay, now I get it. I do have a less
favorite side, we'll call it because.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
I can't find this one, and I just have two
bad sides. I just no idea.

Speaker 5 (01:20:14):
My buddy elbowed me like years ago playing basketball. So
there's a slight little deviate acceptance. So on this side
it looks I kind of look like a Picasso painting.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
On this side, oh my god, who is that?

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
On that camera. That's not why I see before me. Yeah,
I think fans will disagree. I have a feeling, Joe.
It's so great to have you show me. I was
really excited for you to come on, and I really
get to know you better. Who's left?

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
Danny's left? I heard you were going to go through us.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
They want to left the last one, like you're going
to be the first group we complete? I think really,
because you know I'm spreading them all out. I want
the fans to like want it right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
But I had to get in here. I had to
get in here.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
You know what we forgot to do at the end though,
text the group and see who responds first.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
Okay, can we do that?

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
Yeah, let's do that. But you have to say something
just random, like what should I say? Guys? I just
started in an elevator and I don't know what to do.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
I wonder you let's see.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
I think they're all kind of that they know now
this podcast is going to be.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
An hour longer because they won't get back to me.
I'm gonna say, do you have a name for your group?

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
Chat?

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
Just new Kids boring? Because the only ones with our
manager and it's n K plus JP.

Speaker 5 (01:21:29):
I'm gonna say, hey, guys, do you mind if I
use the Piano show for my solo tour?

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
Say I can get you, I can get you dis
kind of tickets. This is so stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:21:55):
We should have done it earlier. We'll be embarrassed and
no one's going to get back.

Speaker 1 (01:21:59):
Well, we'll put in the show. Did it took twenty
three hours and minutes I.

Speaker 5 (01:22:06):
Got back, Okay, so I'll get back and you could
say we'll do it like a little yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
Know, or I'll call in and I just wanted to
unless you want everything.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
To be well, what do you want to tell your
fans right now?

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
Thank you and I'll see you out on the road.

Speaker 5 (01:22:24):
And uh yeah, thanks for showing up so I don't
have to do this by myself in a room crying.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
That's always sniveling in the corner.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
Well you wouldn't like that just by yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
Yeah sometimes.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
Yeah. Well it's been great, get better, guys. That is
all the show I have for you. Thank you so
much for listening. You can always review, subscribe all that
kind of junk, and then check out our other podcasts.
They're scripted and fun. The Last Soviet and the Bedtime
Stories of the Ingle Side and we're both going Top
ten killing it. So yeah, we're excited about that. If

(01:23:04):
you like those scripted immersive plays, there's so much fun. Really.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
Oh yeah, hold on, I was waiting for text. What happened?

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
You have?

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
We do these immersive plays now on radio podcast and
we take So there's one show I do called Bedtime
Stories and Ingleside Inn stars Jason Alexander and Missy Pyle
and I mean just amazing comedians, and it's a period
piece from nineteen seventy five, true story about this hotel
called the Ingleside Inn, and I've been wanting to make
it for fifteen twenty years a TV show of it,

(01:23:33):
and it's you know, Mark Burnett tried, like We've done
so many iterations of it, and then finally my friend
Jared who owns the audio up, it's like, let's just
make it into a podcast. And it turned out amazing
because it's just it really puts you back in the seventies.
It's all about original music and amazing performances, but it's
it's fun. It's a sound bath for your ears. And

(01:23:55):
the last soviets I think even better because that one
just it's a true story about this cosmon that got
stuck in space for three and thirteen days as communism fell.
It's pretty intense and it's a beautiful true story. Yeah,
all true stories I like. I like doing true things.
Any kind of film that I create or a documentary,
it's just all based on something that happened amazing, because

(01:24:16):
I mean, those are the best stories, because you can't make.

Speaker 5 (01:24:18):
That, not to make it about me. One Last Time
is all about you about No, I'm speaking of the
seventies and it's it's coming out in July on A
and E. But it's a it's a lifetime series. Takes
place in the seventies. Do you know the the VC
Andrew novels.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
Does anybody know those?

Speaker 5 (01:24:37):
Yeah, so it's a lot of it's kind of like
a certain genre. Yeah, and demo, but they're these novels
are nuts and gnarly and dark and weird and scary,
and they take place in the seventies. So I yeah,
I'll be playing and not so great person. You know
when that comes out it's in July. Yeah, it's like

(01:24:59):
four weeks. It's on an on an E.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
Yeah, we'll check that definitely, And that's I.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
Don't know if it's a sound bath for the year.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
Oh, we love a dark we do. We love it dark.
And lifetime story is yeah. My nanny now she's our
old assistant. When she stays at the house and we're
out of town. When we come back, it's always on,
always one movie.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
And this is spicy. It's like you've never seen me before.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
Ye reminds me of Harley Jonathan's husband. He always good.
It's a spicy It's all right, thank you so much
for here. Uh, be good to each other out there.
Don't drink a draft, take care of those animals, and
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