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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
The iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, y'all,
welcome back to Full Circle. And this is not just
any episodes. This is our All Star Weekend special. The
vibes are high and the league is heading to Indianapolis.
But what's about to be the most talked about All
Star weekend the W has had yet?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Lexi, how's it going, girl?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I'm good.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
You know, we're here in Connecticut. I'm having major PTSD
every time I come here from my rookie season. But
we're on the last game of our three game road
trip for two and zero, so we're feeling good. Vibes
are good, We're trending in the right direction. So yeah,
I'm excited. And we have three All Stars on our team, so.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I'm very excited. I love that.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, very exciting for us.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Which is you were advocating for your teammates, sure to
get some All Star dods, so I'm happy for them.
So for the fans that are ready to tune into
All Star Weekend and are kind of like what's going on? Like,
what do I gotta put on the calendar? Here's what
you can expect. So on Friday July eighteenth, we've got
the three Point Contest and the Skills Challenge. Lexi and
I have talked about these a few times. But Lexi,
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because you've got eyes on the w who do you
want to see in the three point in the Skills Challenge?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
So you already know that I want to be in
the three point Contest bad but that dream will be
placed on the back burner for another year, which is fine.
I have a little list here of potential three Point
Contests participants. I'm not sure if they're doing only All
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Stars or anybody, so I have two lists. The All
Stars that i'd like to see in the three point
Contest are Sabrina Kelsey Mitchell, Kayln Clark, Kelsey Plumb, and
Alisha Gray. And if they're including non All Star stars
Kmac Juel Lloyd, Sammy Whitcomb and Rachel Bannam, would love
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to see them in the three point Contest. Now for
the Skills Challenge, something that I probably would never want
to participate in, but I.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Feel like I could do a good job in it.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
But for All Stars, Skyler Daggens, Courtney Williams, Gabby Williams,
Alicia Gray, and then for not All Stars, I would
like to see Britney Sykes, Asrae Stevens, Aerield Atkins or
Tash Cloud.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Those are the players I would love to see in
each of those challenges.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
And now allegedly everybody wants to tap in because there's
real bread on the line now, which wasn't the case
in the past. So nobody ever wanted to participate in
the Skills Challenge with three point Contest, but now since
it's sponsored by AFLAC and the money, the prize money
is crazy, I guess, like the requests to participate are
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like insane, and for me, like the three point contests,
like that should be easy. You look at the three
point percentage and that's what you went vite and then
if they say no, then you go to the next one,
and if they say no, you go to the next one.
Shoe is a little more difficult to choose people for,
but I feel like the three point contest, like that
selection process is very simple. You're bringing the players with
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the highest three point percentages and.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Then you go from there. So we'll agree it participates.
I'm excited. I love the three point contest, like literally
my favorite event.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Girl, I love it.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I was in the building when Sabrina beat steps record and.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I was masmerized, methmetized because I've been at a few
All Stars.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I need to see a Sabrina Kaitlyn Clark shootout.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Oh that would be so weird.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
That's what the people want that people want to see that. Honestly,
I really want to see a Kayla McBride Sabrina Kaylen
Clark shootout.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
That's really what I want to see.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
But Sabrina, that girl.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I think that after doing NBA All Star and playing
in front of that hostile crowd because they weren't hostile,
I was, but it was nice, but like it was
a hostile crowd on social media, you know, because everybody
had this weird like if she wins this, if he
wins that, and her score would have won the men's
three point contest outside of her shoot with stet.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
She didn't exactly what she needed to do in that moment,
Like that couldn't have She didn't big out anymore perfectly,
in my opinion, So you're right.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Like how do you agree? Like, how do you top that.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Like I feel like if she was like, you know,
I'm straight, I would be like, okay, I kind of understand.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, but I also feel like the nerve that's hard
competition because the nerves really aren't How.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Is she going to be that skilled, like she's like
I'm the well.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I remember when but when Ali Quigley was playing, she
won it so many times we started calling it the
Allie Quickly Invitational, like that's what it turned into.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
She literally she won every year. It was crazy.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
So yeah, it turned into the Ali Quickly Invitational, So
it could become the Sabrina Invitational if she decides to participate.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
But you never know because if they get if they
mess up that first rack, or if they mess up
like their rack, because everybody has like their one that's
their favorite, then it kind of gets shaky because from
being at three point contests, if they mess up that
first one life.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
And it's a rhythm thing, and then you like don't
realize like how much time that really is, not so
or it's a lot of time, like for someone like me.
I remember I did the three point contest in college
and I did horrible because one we had to sit
and wait for so long, so by the time we
started shooting, we were all like just ice cold and
I have a really quick release, so I was like
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moving through the racks and I like, look up, I
had like mad time left and I was like damn.
So that was an embarrassing outing for me, but it
was really fun. But like the girl who won was
like a really good shooter in college, but like she's
not even the she didn't even get to the WBA.
But that three point contest, like it's a mental thing.
It's like a timing thing, Like there's a lot that
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goes into it. But it's really fun. So my dream
is still alive. Guys like I still want to be
I'm gonna go course, it's a lot my own three
point contest. I like that, and I'm gonna just do
my own.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I won't, but I'm a sport you, So.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Let's talk about these all Stars. So the rosters are
officially out. We've got Kaitlin Clark and if you said,
Collier as this year's captains, and they'll be drafting their
teams live on ESPN tonight, So you guys are gonna
hear this after they're already drafted, so we might sound
crazy giving our predictions, but or will sound great because
she've already seen what happens. But let's give some flowers
really quickly to our twenty twenty five All Stars starters.
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You've got Caitlin Clark, Pe Collier, Aliah Boston, Paige Becker's,
Alisha Gray, Sabrina Yunescu, Nekka Gumake, saw too Sobili Brianna Stewart,
and Asia Wilson.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Snaps Snaps, flowers, flowers, flowers, flowers, flowers. You know, I
think this is a really good starting lineup.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
When we asked Nikka if she was, like surprised, she was,
and we're like why, Like why why?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
But like that's the thing like people really don't understand
about like these All Star games. It's like you really
don't know like if you're gonna be in this game
out of this game. Also, we're not even twenty games
into our season, so I even think, like just the
timing of All Star is so odd, Like it's like
a very small sample size. So really it's like if
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you don't start the season off really hot, or if
you don't have like a three all you really need
is like three, four, five really good games to be
in consideration for All Star weekend because we're not even
twenty games into the season and the voting is over,
like they're about to like next weekend is All Star
and we're not even halfway through the year. So it's
like one of those things, like if you want to
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be an All Star, that really has to be a
mindset unless you're like just one of them ones, like
you're gonna hoop regardless whatever your goals are. But like
if you are trying to get into the All Star
like and people could be like, oh, yeah, no, that
wasn't a goal, Like no, like you want to play
at a high level. Like there's a different mentality that
you have to have coming into the season if you
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even want to be considered for All Star games. So
I'm always like super happy and impressed with these starters
because you get voted as a starter, Like you're being
acknowledged by the fans, You're being acknowledged by the media
and your peers, so like that's a big deal. And
people are complaining, Oh, it's is this a popularity contest?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Well, yeah, part of.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
It is a popularity contest. That's the whole thing about
being a professional athlete, Like you have to have like
the whole package, and like that's just the reality of
the situation. So yes, you might think that someone got
in that shouldn't have got in because they're popular. Well yeah,
like that's the whole point of All Star Weekend is
you bring in the players that fans want to see
and interact with, and you love seeing players playing on
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the same team when their rivals quote unquote. So I'm
really excited for this, this this starting group. I think
it's a good one. I think they did a good job.
Every list isn't ever going to be perfect, but you know,
I think it's I think it's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
It's a good group for sure.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I didn't feel like there was any surprises here at
all as far as the starters are concerned.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
I think on the only surprise for a starter for
me was Paige, And I say that because she missed
some games and Dallas is not a great team right now,
so that was like a surprise as far as the voting,
Like her level of play obviously warrants her to get that,
but I was like surprised that it actually happened. So
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like I mean, that's really amazing and exciting for her.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
No shade, I'm a voter. I believe in voting and this,
that and the third. But she was gonna be on
that lesson about I mean, we see.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
It were saying, I think what happened her missing all
those games. I was like, oh, well, maybe she'll just
be a regular All Star. But actually she came back
and was killing, And like I said, all you need
is like you just need like a good week. I
say that about the NBA too. A lot of those
guys they need like two weeks of like really good
play and like then they get their next contract locked up,
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or they need one good series and you need one
good series in the playoffs and like your life is
going to change.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
So that's kind of like what it's like with WNBA
All Star.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
But I have some interesting stats surrounding these selections. If
you would you like to hear them, because you know,
I'm a stats girl, I.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Would love to hear them.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
So basically, from what I've looked, I looked like the
past few years to corroborate this, you basically are automatically
in as an All Star if you're leading the league
in points, rebounds or assists. Like, if you're leading in
any of those categories, you ninety nine nine percent will be.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
An All Star.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
So this year those people are fee who's leading in points,
Angels leading in rebounds, and at is leading an assists.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Okay, every player.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
That is an All Star this season outside of Courtney, Williams, Kiki,
and Satu are averaging thirty plus minutes per game, and
those three are averaging like twenty eight, so they're right there.
So again, you've got to be on the court a
lot to even have an opportunity or a chance. Again,
you will typically see the same eight to ten players
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every year of All Star like you see in the NBA,
Like you could have a shoe in no matter how
their team is doing, Like that's the type of consistent
performances that they're putting out, and like you're gonna have
the same like eight to ten players.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
And then that's the fun part.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Abou All Star, Like, oh, who's the secret five that
go and slip in there, Like that's also a fun
part about All Star. I think that it's great that
the Fever have three players representing them because they are
the host city and the only other team with three
is the Seattle.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Storm, So shout out to us, shout out to the Fever.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
And then at the end of the day, y'all like
All Stars all about optics, entertainment and fun. It's a
great armor, but like it's really not that serious to
the point where people need to be like outraged, up
in arms about it because there's only twenty two spots.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I'm pretty sure twenty two spots.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I always say that All Star is a popular larity contest.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It's fun.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I don't think any money or contractual obligation to be
associated with All Star, like not making it and being
snubbed from it.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
But all w all NBA, like those teams at the.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
End, those are matter where we can start throwing hands
and have an issue.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Those matter.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
That is not a popularity contest, but this is like
this is just for fun. For those who haven't seen,
I'm gonna say who the reserves are real quick. So
you got Sonya Cetron, Kyler Diggins, Ryan Howard, Kiki, Eria Fenn, Kelsey, Mitchell,
Kelsey Plum, Angel Reese At, Kayla Thornton, Courtney Williams, Gabby Williams,
and Jackie Young period.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Okay, guys, We're gonna give some more flowers to our
first time All Stars and the first time All Stars
this season. Our page Kiky, Sonia, Kayla and Gabby so
snaps and flowers for the first time All Stars, and
we have more.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
About some of these first time players.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yes, okay so Keikey and Sonya are the second Rooky
teammate pair that were chosen as All Stars since nineteen
ninety nine. That was the last time two rookies were
chosen to play an All Star Game together.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
They might have not even been born no way, because
I was born in two thousand.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
They weren't even born yet, which is actually insane. I
did not write that down. I just thought about that,
and that's insanity. So shout out to the rookie dynamic
duo in DC. One of my favorite stories this season
has been Kayla Thorton's.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
This is her tenth season in the WNBA. If you
guys did not know.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
She went undrafted in twenty fourteen and now is the
Valkyrie's very first All Star in franchise history. So flowers
for Kayla Thoron for getting her first All Star not
in year ten, like that's crazy. The amount of hard
ware that's accation it takes to even stay in the
league for ten years and not be an All Star
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in any of those years, is like very admirable, and
like that's just the credit to her hard work, her passion,
her dedicated She was a WNBA champion last season, so
I'm glad to see her getting all the things and
she deserves it, And I think that's really telling of
what the talent looks like in the WNBA and how
important having real, genuine opportunity does for a player's career,
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like it could change in an instant. All you need
is an opportunity. So really excited for Cayle Thornton. And
then the last person I'm really excited about, obviously is
my teammate Gabby Williams.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
And I already told you all that she was going
to be an All Star and now she is one.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
And she was so excited and was crying and stuff
when she found out, So like, I know, this is
like a really special moment for her, and you know,
I'm going to plug her again. I plugged her to
be an All Star. So obviously our manifestation is powerful.
We know this already first team All Defense and Defensive
Player of the Year and she's not.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Defense Player of the Year. It's because she don't rebound enough.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
But we tell her that every day, Gabby, go get
some rebounds, girl, so she go get them rebounds. But
if she's not Defense Player of the Year First Team,
for sure, she's leading the league in steals and she
putting players in hell and clamps. So shout out to Gabby.
I'm so happy for her. She deserves it.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
And these are the things about All Star that's like
that I love.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
It's like you see people's like trajectories of their careers
being adjusted in real time when they are getting acknowledged
and their dreams coming trials for their work, whether it
takes eight years or ten years or your first year, Like,
it's always a nice thing to be acknowledged for the
type of player you are. So shout out to the
All Stars. This is a great All Star group in
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my opinion.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Okay, so, since since you're happy with the group I have,
I have a.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Couple bones to pick. Second.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
First, and before I pick my bone is how do
you think your dad was a WNBA coach? Maybe you
have more of an insight than me and can give
the fans some education as to what criteria these coaches
are using to select the reserves, because there were some
people that quote unquote could have been All Stars, but
their teams aren't great, and so I feel like that's
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important to take into consideration personally obviously not in pages case,
but to take in consideration how their teams are doing.
So people have a few different mixed messages about what
the coaches are using.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
We did talk.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
About how the voting works in our last couple of episodes,
and I know that the coaches aren't allowed to vote
for their own players, so there's no unfairness there before
y'all start, But LEXI, how do they decide who the
reserves are going to be?
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Honestly, I don't know. They're like, like you said, the
goalplayers don't get it.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
But I will say, when it comes to All Star,
I don't think team success should have as much weight
as people think because you're an All Star. So it's like
you have to like actually watch some of these games
in totality to see the impact that these players are
having on the on their teams. So people probably like,
why is Kelsey Plub an All Star? Her team is
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not winning? Well, if you watch them play. Kelsey comes
in and does her thing every game, every night, and
she's having a career year and scoring.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
And at the end of the day, she's a star.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Yeah that's another thing, like your star power, like that matters.
And that's what I'm saying when.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
It comes to All Stars, just like, yes, it's serious.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Yes it's an amazing honor and accolade to have on
your resume.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
But again, it's not like end.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
All be all, Like, oh, if you're never an All Star,
you're never gonna like get a contract that you deserve
or you're never gonna win a championship or da da
da da da.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
I mean, I guess it depends on what you value
because like, yeah, you have the fans, media and players voting,
which again I don't even know how many players actually
participate in the voting. I literally voted like the last
night that you can vote, because I was like, I'm
wait until the very last day because I take that serious. Obviously,
I've voted for Gabby Nekka and Skyler obviously, but like
then you have players that are like I was just
voted for all of my teammates, So like you have
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players who are doing that. So it's like, y'all can't
really take that player weighted part. It's not that deep
because I guarantee you, like half.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Of the players probably didn't even participate.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
People definitely were putting weight on it.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I saw people complaining that, oh, they're hating on this
person because they have her at this But it's a
good thing that you added that context of people, like, honestly,
if I wuld vote, not be voting for my damn TV.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
It's that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
So if you have, I'm gonna say, what, there's one
hundred and fifty of us roughly, I would say like
maybe eighty actually won and voted because like i'd see
you are when things get sent out, like people don't.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Check their emails.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
People are like, that's the thing if there's no money involved,
it's like optional to everybody, Like it's a problem with
that's a problem with professional athletes that actually needs to
be fixed, Like check your freaking emails anyway, So we
say eight roughly eighty ninety probably filled it out. Probably
half of those voted just veteran teammates because I don't care,
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especially the ones that are like I have no chance
of being an All Star. So let me just fuck
this whole thing up because I don't care. But the
right it was like me right, like all Stars like
a really special time, and like I've watched all these games,
I know what everybody's doing. I want people to be
in the All Star Game that deserve it, and I've
earned it, so I vote like people really care. I care,
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So like if I was playing at an All Star liner,
I want people to acknowledge me and give me my
flowers and want me to be in an All Star Game,
So I like put that energy out. So I mean,
I think the rating that should be looked at the
craziest is the freaking media rankings because they also vote
for all the NBA stuff. We don't vote for that shit.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
They do, though, and that's where, like we said, really matters.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
The only media ranking that always pisses me off is
where they put Kelsey Mitchell at over and over and over.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
I don't understand.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Kelsey Mitchell has been one of the elite scores in
our league since twenty twenty. I looked it up, seventeen
plus points since twenty two.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
If there's a player.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Out here in this league being disrespected, underappreciated. It's Kelsey
freaking Mitchell, and I say it all the time, and
that's my girl. I've been playing against her since high school.
Like she's been a nightmare for year ten plus years
for me personally.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
You do also give her.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
I'm just happy that she got acknowledged for this year's
All Star Game. I mean, typically she is an All Star,
but it probably will be an extra special season for her,
especially with.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
It being in Indie and the way she's just you know,
kept Indiana afloat.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
She stepped up, Natasha Howard stepped up, Leah Boston stepped up.
All right, McDonald has been like so good for them.
I know we weren't talking about specific teams, but you know
i'd be getting mad when they'd be disrespecting my girl.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I'm glad that she got that opportunity.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
For sure too so And and I know you got
some some snubs that you have in your head.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I could see your little brain turning.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
There's just one that I want to give my full
attention to. I was gonna come with a few. I
feel like giving you a few, Well I could, but
it takes.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Life a few two. But I feel like we have
the same one. Who is it?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Is it Brie Jones?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
No? What what was your pretty psychs?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Oh yeah that that that sucks too. But I'm being
a homer, So.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
This is a one hundred percent bias take from a riot.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
She's okay, in her first season with the Dream it
looks and I'm not even really being a homer about this,
like she's new obviously. However, Comma, she is averaging fourteen
eight and two assists her game. Okay, she has been
one of the more efficient players in the league this season.
She's expanded her game.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Beyond the arc.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Okay, She's having a great season. And and it's not
like I know that team production. You know, you actually
made a really great point about that. I was gonna
bring this whole thing about how the Dream are actually
doing very well this season and how she deserves some
recognition for that.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
However, you kind of just kind of my point. But
I still feel like the team is doing well. I
feel like she deserved a spot.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
She's definitely a little bit more quiet about the way
that she operates and goes about her business. And so
maybe that's not as like sexy for All Star, but
production has to count for something.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
She's been an All Star before, And I've always said
this about All Star. If you are selected as an
All Star ever in your career, like that should be
the bar, right, Like you have to be at that
level of production or better to be invited back. Like
I just feel like that's fair. That's like if you
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write a paper, you get an A.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Whatever. If you turn it a paper that.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Doesn't sound or look like the same paper, you not
gonna get an A. Again, You're gonna get a C
plus or a B plus because your teacher's gonna be
like he could do better.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I've seen you do better, and I want you to
do better.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
So again, this is a whole conversation of why people
don't want to like set the bar for themselves up here,
because then once you uppear this, there's an expectation you
have for your expectation. So that's how I feel about
All Star selections. So I mean, in that regard, I
do agree with you.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Like Bree, I.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Think she is having a similar or better season than
her All Star season that she had in Connecticut, But
it probably didn't help that she's on a whole new
team with more All Stars, a completely new system and
new coach all that kind of stuff, and even Atlanta
like even they're like they're playing well, but they're still not.
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Like I mean, the fact that the Links only have
two All Stars and they're the best team in the
league by far.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
So I mean, okay, here we go, we go.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
We don't have multiple snubs because and I didn't really
want to talk about because that's taken away from the
players that did get into the All Star Game. I
don't think there's anybody in the All Star Game that
shouldn't be So let me get let me make that
clear right now.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I'm one of those annoying fans who brings up snubs
and then when you ask me, so, who would you
take off, I'm like, nobody.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Just let me have fun, right, So, Like, I don't
think that anybody that was selected should be taken off.
So I want to make that loud and clear. And
I said it twice for a reason. So, Okay, our
first snub, Bree Jones k Mac I just mentioned because
of the season she's having, but also the fact that
the Links are the number one team in the league
and they don't have three All Stars, but two other
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teams do. So I can see where there's confusion there,
because how does that work. They are the best team,
the best record, why don't they have the most All Stars?
So I can see where there's some confusion there. And
then my next snub was Britney Sykes. Obviously, I think
a lot of people will agree with me there. She's
the only player that is averaging eighteen points per game
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that was not selected as an All Star. People can
say what they want about their rookies, how amazing that
they're doing, because they are. But again, you cannot put
a team with that record. You can have three All Stars.
So whatever decision making process went to including those two
and not Brittany Sykes, we will never know.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
But I hope that. I mean, it's just gonna fuel
her fire.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
I feel like she don't need any more of that
if y'all know, Britney Sykes.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
So beware to the rest of the league. For the
remainder of the season. There needs to be a new
We need.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
To find a new word besides snub.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Snub is it just seems it just seems so harsh, like, yeah,
but it is.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
It's a harsh thing.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
You got overlooked, Yeah, overlooked and not acknowledged. It's like
literally a definition of snuff because I had to look
it up because I'm like, are we using this word right?
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Yes, we are using it right.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
It's one thing to look at from a fan or
a media or a voter perspective.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
It's a whole nother thing when it's you.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I couldn't imagine how personal that is because I take
stuff personal.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
That is very small and very unnecessary.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I couldn't only imagine if I'm if I'm a huge
part of this system that we're running, and you acknowledge
a couple of my teammates and you don't acknowledge me,
or you know what I'm saying, Like that kind of
thing would really bother me, especially when that's your job
that you show up to work every single day. Everything
that happens that in that locker room, in that system
is because of you. You know what goes on behind
the scenes, and to get ignored would be very hurtful.
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So snub is the perfect word, and it's a very
negative thing. Now it really becomes a big thing when
it messes with people's money in the sense of like, oh,
I could have gotten this bonus, because if I would
have done this or that.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
When you start messing with people's.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Money, that's a whole other conversation because that really piss
me off.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
No, for sure, I guess there is no other word
but snub The only time I felt snubbed in my
life as a basketball player was when I was at
Duke and I didn't win AC Player of the Year,
but they gave me Defensive Player of the Year, which
was fine. Also, but I was like preseason player of
the year and they picked someone else, and I was
just kind of like, okay, I mean our stats were
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the same, they like they I think the tiebreaker was
team's success, which when it comes to ones like that,
I'm like, okay, like no, So obviously that still irks
me to this day.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
It was eight years ago.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
See it's a big deal. It's a big deal.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
But I still went Defensive Player of the Year, which
was great. I think that was like a year down
but still grateful and blessed. But I was like, I
will I will never get over that. So yeah, I mean,
I can't imagine how they feel when you feel like
you have the body of work, you have the stats
to match, and you don't get acknowledged and you don't
get that All Star or not, like I'm sure that
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that burns or they could not care, like we don't know.
I didn't ask them, we don't know. This is just
us saying if it happened to us. But again, as
a team sport, I.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Think anybody would care.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Yeah, but again, I feel like as the league grows,
they're gonna have to add more players to these all
star rosters, like maybe just two more.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Having twenty four would solve a lot of problems, and.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
They're gonna have to add more. We're about to have
two more teams. You have to add more all stars.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
So yeah, they're gonna have to or it's just gonna
get harder.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Or make the player voting mandatory or something like if
you guys don't do this, you're getting fined like something
to make it right, like an even playing field.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Now, let's talk strategy.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
If you were one of the captains, Fee or Caitlyn,
who would be your first pick and why? And who
would you be praying that the other coptain doesn't take
before you, which would be probably be your first pick.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Okay, so you know, I have a lot of different
points of view here of what angles people are going
to take. So for Fee, you know, I have her
safe pick Courtney Williams her PG, someone that she's familiar with,
played it unrivaled, playing well together. Here they can get
all the content, media stuff, do it all together. It
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will be great for the links, like they'll be able
to just capture them at the same time.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Like that's the safe pick.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
That makes sense, spicy pick Sabrina your archemicist in a sense,
because y'all just beat them in the finals. But I'm
sure that fans would love to see them play together
because they're so super They're both super talented, and Sabrina
is such a different player than Courtney.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I think it would be really cool to see how
Fee plays with a player like Sabrina.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Who I hope that they don't pick first or second
is Courtney obviously from what I said before, because I
think it's just overall the benefits of having them on
the same team like just overshadows anything else.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
What about you, who do you think that Fee should pick?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Okay, so here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
If I were going into All Star and I were drafting,
I would want to pick my teammates because I'm a
loyal girl. But just looking at it at it from
the outside. I would kind of want to pick people
whoever I think is the best that I probably wouldn't
get a chance to play with otherwise, or somebody that
would be very unexpected, like somebody that I just would
be like, I would have so much.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Fun playing with her. So I'm trying to think if
I'm Fee.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I'm not, I'm probably not gonna pick Stewie, but me
as Mariah, I would pick Stewey for sure.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
But like, imagine if they came in and they were like,
I'm picking all bigs and Kaylee, you could pick all
the guards and we don't play like that.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
That would be insane. That'd be insane. I'll be so
mad at them. I'm not gonna watch that.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
No, they they need to come in with hilarious Okay,
low key.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Fee would not do this because of the nemesis thing,
but I would probably pick who I would want the
other person to pick less, like who would be more beneficial,
And so I would either choose maybe Stewie or Sabrina.
I'm sounding like really liberty heavy right now, but because
I wouldn't Wantkaitlyn to pick her and then her to
like fuck me up. You know, you know, like mess
me up. And then who I would hope the other
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person of the pick. I would Hopekaitlyn does a pick STEI. Yeah,
I don't want those problems.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
I mean, And then for like on the other side
with Kaitlyn like her safe pick, same as with fee
Aliyah Ellieah. For sure, they have great synergy, They're familiar.
I mean, I would even put Kelsey Mitchell in there
as well.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
That's why I say hope is still available would be
Kelsey Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Spicy pick.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Y'all already know what a spicy pick would be. Angel
Just pick her, pick her first, Just pick her first.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Wait, I didn't even think of that. I didn't even
think of that. Wait, that is so tea. She better
do that. That would And.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
I say spicy not It's like not like a negative spicy,
It's like a oh, I'm interested in this.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
It's all of branch. It's an olive branch.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
And like, yeah, the hypothetical beef that we have everybody
made up in their heads. But I think it would
be hilarious and great if she chose her.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I would love that. I don't even have an answer
beside that.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
And there's a chance that Kayla don't even play like
so you don't even gotta be able to court with
her if you don't want to be for real, for real.
But I just feel like everything is aligning right now.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
For where that is possible.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
And I think it would be great because it's an
All Star game and it's fun and it's for shitsing
gigs and it's, like I said, for optics, entertainment and
fun and there's not anything more fun and entertaining than
that shit right there.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
So and seeing them on the court last year together
was fun. That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Yeah, because yeah, they already they already did it when
they played against the Olympic team. So it's not like
it's not like an impossible thing. We've already seen it.
But for her to actually choose her, I think would
be cool.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
It would be fire.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
I would love that.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
We shall see and then you go, you go and
get all the rebounds? Didn't they break the rebound record,
assist record?
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Like right here we go do it again? Because last
year's All Star gas fire that has happened.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I can't think of something that would be more like entertaining.
Do you understand?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I will get I'm going to click on the Instagram
and feed would be that for six days.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
The media day lacked y'all, I have shit to talk about.
I see.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
If I were her PR team, I would force her to. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
I'm like, y'all know if y'alla has been gone real
quiet when it comes to the WNBA the last few weeks.
So here we have y'all seen to talk about since
y'all are hush mouth all of a sudden. So yeah,
I'm excited for All Star weekend. I don't know if
I'm going or we're going or not, still up in
the air.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
I'll be there, so you better.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, now that there's much an Indie that's my birthplace,
ain't nothing there.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
But I really wanted to. I really wanted to take
a little vacae.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
And you know what, if I were actually a player
in the league, I would want a hundred percent be
in Cabo and not in Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Yeah, I mean even all.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Like I said, last last season's All Star was my
first All Star because I'd made a promise to myself
that I would not go unless I was participating or working,
and that was like a goal I set. So I
finally got to go to work which was really fun.
I got to do the Orange carpet. It was really fun.
This year, maybe something similar, I'd be doing some work things.
I would love to support my teammates obviously, but sorry.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
This break is nice, much needed for a lot of players.
So it was amazing.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
It's like spring break at school.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Literally, you don't want to go to school for spring
break unless you go out like the Spell and Be
or something.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Today, you also got something to do.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I got to see what Indiana has to offer because
Phoenix at the Bar.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
Hot Yo, that was even They said that even the
first year in Vegas was even better than Phoenix.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I disagree with that, and I was, yeah, I so
disagree because I think it's incredible.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
My standard for also weekend is extremely high because Phoenix.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
But I'm just not a Vegas girl.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Like I, I don't really want to walk through a
hotel to get to where I need to be.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
And I'm cool off Vegas smoke and darkness. You're like
in a dungeon.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, And I don't like to spend more than two
or three days in Vegas, and the four whatever days
I was there for all start that was too many.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
So I'm cool off that I've.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Been in Vegas one time in college and I was like, Okay,
Vegas is kind of cool.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I was young, I know no better. So the Aces
got to Vegas.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Like I remember it was my rookie year, was their
first year there, and everybody like circle in Vegas on
the calendar, like, oh.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
We can't wait to go to Vegas.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
We go out because we were in freaking Connecticut, so
of course we was just dumb hype to go to Vegas.
Like fast forward eight years, Vegas are like, oh, brother,
we got to go back to Vegas and go sit
in a hotel with all the casino and it's hot
and all this other stuff.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
So Vegas was the first two years though. It was
so funny.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
We're like they got a crazy advantage because everybody's coming
in and turning up and going out all night and
laying by the pool and all this other stuff and.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Like, and they have a great fan base.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Their fan base is fire. So but I said Valkyrie's
they might have the best home.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, man, I haven't seen it in real life.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I can't judge.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
And now we're finnah see, because I think I read
somewhere that like they had a very home heavy schedule
so far, so like they haven't really played many road
games yet, so they're like two completely different teams home
versus road. Yeah, that's a good amount of teams as well.
That home court advantage is real. Unless you're playing in
the Commissioner's Cup, home court advantage does not exist. Facts.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
It's very interesting with Chase Center because the Warriors are
very different home and away too, Like very different. They're
either incredible at home and horrible away, or they've had
times where they haven't been that great at home or no.
I feel like they had a year where they were
like they won like one game out of twenty away
and they were like undefeated at home, Like they had
a crazy season like that.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
But you know what it is.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
It's the threes. I'm telling you it's the threes. And
it's something that I've been paying so close attention to.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
This is a tangent. We love tangents.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Valkyries are leading the league in three point attempts, are
dead last in the percentage, right, so they're putting them up.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
We don't have in our game.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
So like basically the equivalent of like dunks in our
game are like threes like crazy threes making it their
a one threes getting.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Like that's like our equivalent logo.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Yeah, like the logo three is like our dug equivalent
at the moment. So when they hit a three, like
even in Golden State, like it feels like the three
was twenty points, but it was only three.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Like sometimes I'll look.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Up at the scoreboard in some games like that's across
the board. But definitely for a team that shoots a
lot of them, you look up and like you might
even have had more three makes than them, but it
feels like they made a hundred, right because of how
the crowd reacts to them.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
And they're comfortable because they're at home, so they'll they
can make a little bit more of those then and
you know, live by the three, dow by the three
we talk about all the time. So if you're at home,
in your comfortable space and you can make more of
those and you're getting more of that crowd reaction, you
want to shoot more of those. And then it goes
back our gigs where if you're away, that don't really work.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
You missing threes on that road road game, oh my god,
it's it feels like you're minusing points but that's like
a thing because I would look up sometimes and be like, hell,
they only made five threes and you feel you think
that they made like nine or ten.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
So yeah, that's like.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
A Golden State thing because they playing just like them.
But yeah, they literally are dead lasting percentage, but they
are putting them hose up.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
They do not make sense.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
But yeah, that home court advantage, So that's that's a
real thing, y'all. Unless Commissioner Cup Championship. Because every home
team is lost.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Oh god, that's insane. How that happen.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
I don't know. I don't know, but we need to
tighten up because that's weird. Every year the home team
has lost.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
That is weird. Well, guys, we are so excited for
All Star weekend. Tune in.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
There's a lot of games going on this weekend, y'all,
so tap in, tune in. Thank you guys for tuning
in with us another week on the.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
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