October 1, 2025 • 56 mins
On this episode of Full Circle, Lexie opens the show reminding the haters to put some respect on her name! Then the ladies discuss what to expect in game five as the Aces and Fever duke it out for a chance to make the WNBA Finals. Later, they discuss the Mercury making the finals, what elimination means for the Lynx, and of course all the referee controversy coming from the series.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Full Circle is an iHeart woman's sports production in partnership
with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get
your podcasts. Hello everyone, Welcome back to another episode of
the Full Circle Podcast. I'm Riah Rose here with Lexi Brown. Lexi,
(00:20):
how you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hey, I'm good, guys. I'm back in La. I'm back
in my house. We're so bad.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
You're so back.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I got a couch now in my extra bedroom.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
There's Cannon. He's excited to be back in La.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I'm happy to be back in the sunshine and stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I'm so good, Lexi. I'm glad you're back home. I'm
glad it's sunning. Is it as rainy and Seattle as
everyone says this?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
No, it's not. Okay, let me let me take that
bow because I was there. I was there in like
the good weather. So they were claiming it doesn't rain,
at least not in the summertime. It like miss someone said,
it feels like like people are explain, like a fabreeze bottle.
That's like what the rain feels like. It's like misty,
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and yes, it is very cloudy. And gloomy because I
remember when I got there, I was like, the people
were like, it's depressing up there, and I'm like, is
it the weather? Is it like you the people? No,
it's the weather. Yeah, it's the weather. Makes sense.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
So it is more cloudy than rainy.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
So like coming back to La and it's just the
sun is just his different in La. So I'm so
happy to be back. So no, no, just no disrespect
to Seattle.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
But right I would have to have my hair on
braids twenty four.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
And that yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I will say
there's there's not really much humidity and on the on
the nice days with the weather was good, like it
was like beautiful, like, but I experienced that light. I
was there from April to last week, which is mid September.
I probably experienced like ten beautiful days, and a lot
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of the beautiful days we were on the road.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
So I missed a lot of the beautiful days. But anyway,
there's a lot for us to talk about. We want
to start. Actually I want.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
To start somewhere first, guys. Okay, so I know that,
let me rewind. This is my podcast, Okay, this is
our show. We get to talk about what we want
to talk about, and I like to talk about my
personal experiences. Okay, I don't typically look at any comments
anywhere anymore, but.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Sometimes I go dabble on our YouTube.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
We appreciate y'all that watch on YouTube because that's really fire.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
But there are like a few.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Comments on our last video that kind of rubbed me
the wrong way. They didn't like comments, don't hurt my
feelings anymore, but like when things kind of rubbed me
the wrong way, I'm just kind of like, I want
to like address this. So again, I don't know who
these people are. I don't know what their deal is whatever.
And I've seen this comment come up a lot in
different ways and different capacities. Is that people like continue
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to talk down on my career in totality, and I
have never understood why they've done that, why they want
to do that, why they think that what I've done
in this league, what I've done in college is just
not good enough for me.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
To speak on basketball. I guys, I'm a hoope.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Like all I do is watch, eat, sleep, breathe basketball,
So of course, like that's what I want to talk
about on the show. I don't like talking about myself.
I don't like talking about what I did at Duke,
what I did at Maryland, what I've done in the league,
Like that's not what this show is about. But I
speak because I've had a lot of experiences, and.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I feel like a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Of people have gotten comfortable with speaking on things that
they've never experienced, like that's the law, like that's that's
the word.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
That y'all are gonna believe. But y'all an't gonna believe the.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Person that literally is living, experiencing doing all of these
things in real time. So I don't like when people
look determine, like whether what I say is valid or not,
or if I can have a platform or not, because
y'all look at my stats and you're like, well, she's
probably not. She's not as good as she thinks she is,
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and da da da da da. Because it's not about that.
It's about me wanting to educate y'all on the game
and talk about the game that I love.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
And I'm tired of it.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So when y'all come on our show under our video
and leave comments like that, I get irked. And I
actually responded to some on YouTube, which I never do that,
but I had to hop in a little bit, but
I was like, okay, like y'all think that what my
little eight points is not important? Let me give you
some facts, you know me little missmum fact, y'all want
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to hear some fun facts about my little eight points. Okay,
I got them, I wrote them down. Okay, right, it's here, Lexi. Okay,
We're gonna talk about the playoffs briefly in my soapbox
moment and then I'll be done.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
So sorry, guys.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
So in the playoffs, in the semi finals, which is
between the Mercury, the LINKX, the Aces and the Fever. Okay,
On the Mercury, there are three starters that average fifteen
points or more three of the starters, the other two
average less than ten, and Dowana Bonner averages eleven coming.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Off the bench.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
For the Links, there are three starters that average thirteen
or more points and the other two starters average less
than ten. On the Aces, there are three starters that
average eleven or more points and the other two starters
ten or less. Jewel Lloyd averages eleven off the bench,
And in the Fever there are three I've put three
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and a half players that average eleven or more point
because Odyssey Sims has only played for twelve games, but
she's averaging ten points and the other two starters are
averaging less than ten. So, guys, it is not abnormal
for a player in the league to not average more
than ten points, like and be a very important part
of the team.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
So let's let's remove that.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
For whatever reason, my little eight points or the thirteen
points I was averaging before I got sick, doesn't matter
to y'all.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
But I just wanted to.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Put that in perspective to y'all, because it's not abnormal
for a player in the WNBA to average less than
ten points as a starter playing a lot of minutes.
Me personally, I don't think that's a good thing. I
think that the league is too talented for that. Again,
another hit my hill. Make the games longer so people
have more opportunities, But who knows if.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
That's going to happen. But yeah, guys, that's all I
wanted to say about that. Sorry, Lexie.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
You know from talking sports on big platforms that when
people don't like what you have to say, they don't
attack what you have to say, they attack you. That's
just what that is. Don't even pay that. At the
end of the day, I views of you and a comment.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Thank you for your view.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
We appreciate it, but don't come at me crazy on
my on my shit please you y'all could go talk
about me over there. But when it comes to our baby,
let's keep it cute. Okay, speaking of keeping it not.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
So cute, yeah, like keeping it cute.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
These semifinals have have delivered as zero not keeping it
cute at all. Controversy, emotional reactions, officiating, drama, fanishing.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I don't even know where we should start.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Honestly, we did say that both series we're going to
go to five games, so I'm very disappointed that today,
September thirtieth.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
We only have one game five.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Very disappointed in that, But shout out to the Phoenix
merch for advancing to the WNBA Finals for the first
time since twenty twenty one when they lost to the
Chicago Sky unfortunately. But I also saw unfortunately. I mean
we I'm not the Sky anymore, so you know, I can't.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Be like, Yay, we won.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
You know, that's far far in the past for me.
It seems like ages ago. But let's get into that
series first before we get into the Vegas Fever.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Do you want to talk about the series a little bit?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, Oh my gosh. Okay, so the Links were chasing
a fifth championship and their drive for five was denied
by Voenax.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Phoenix was supposed to be turning the page from the
DT Brittany Griner era, but Sachu Soabaly dedicates the win
to DT and shows that her shadow still looms large.
You guys, they are still living in their greatness era.
We thought that there was going to be a little
bit of a buffer between what we knew the Phoenix
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murcur to be and what they are now. It seems
to be that they are getting right back to what
we have seen from them in the past. Game four
recap Okay, Phoenix trailed sixty eight to fifty five heading
into the fourth quarter and then outscored Minnesota thirty one
to thirteen.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
That game was amazing.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I was so happy for Phoenix because we said at
the beginning of the season in our preseason that this
was the best constructed team from top to bottom, and
they are proving it right now in the playoffs, even
with the addition of Dewana Bonner, which that kind of
like knocked them off their pivot for a little bit,
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not very long, but the fact that they have a all
time great like dB comfortably coming off of the Bitch
and being that spark that they needed.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
dB won a championship in.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Phoenix in twenty fourteen, and now it's twenty twenty five
and she's back in the finals with a completely new
era of Phoenix Mercury basketball. I'm pretty sure that for
her that's such a full circle moment considering how her
season started in Indiana, for her to get to the finals,
for her to be literally the reason why Phoenix won
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that game.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
With her shooting in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Like I think people don't realize, like, yes, that team
is new, but Ka is a finals MVP, Aight's been
to the finals twice.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
dB is a champion. Sammy Whitcomb is a champion.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Like they have a lot of really good, experienced veterans
on that team, and the way that they just kind
of blocked out all of the noise, all of the negativity,
all of the doubt all season long, except from us,
you know, even though we did say the Links were
gonna win technically, but we have been very high on
the Phoenix Mercury all season long, especially with AT's MVP
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caliber season, I think that this is just like the
cherry on top for their season. I think that defensively, offensively,
they're clicking on all cylinders and shout out to the
Mercury honestly, because.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, dB was she was definitely productive thirteen point six rebounds,
saw too with twenty one and AT with twenty three,
eight and ten, leading the team in all categories. In
that MVP race. We were saying that she was getting
slept on a little bit, but it seems to be
that she had the last laugh so far getting into
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the finals zone.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
So far.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I mean, I think that we were robbed of a
classic series with Fee getting hurt in Game three, show
read getting suspended because of her comments about the officiating,
which we'll also get into a little bit later. But
special shout outs to Kleb McBride and Cordy Williams. They
really did everything that they could to try and keep
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the Links alive getting into a game five back in
Many because I feel like if they had a Game five.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
In Minnesota that they were probably gonna win that game.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
So CALEA McBride had thirty thirty.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
One, Courtney had twenty and six.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I think that Jeff Shepherd was a great substitution for Fee.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
But she hadn't been played.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I think they said that she played more in that
first half of Game four that she played in all
of Game three.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
So when you get thrown into the fire like that, like.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
She came out like hooping, but then the Mercury made
adjustments and kind of quieted her down a little bit.
But again, that's like a tall task to ask for
somebody that you know, was seeing very few minutes throughout
the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
But I think she did her part.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I think that they missed Djona Carrington more than they
thought they would. Her energy, her presence, her defense, like
just her activity. Defense is so helpful for a team
like the Links, who have such offensive weapons and they
don't really go super super deep in their bench as
far as like defensive players. So I think with them
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losing Djona that kind of hurt them a little bit
as well.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
So I mean, I think people are probably gonna be like, well, the.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Phoenix beat the Links, and they were missing this and
they were missing their coach, and then that look at
the look at the fever right now, like that is
just not an excuse at this point in your season.
But I am a little disappointed, not a little. I'm
very disappointed that they suspended Cheryl because, huh yeah, give
her a little fine and keep it moving like Game four,
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an elimination game is what got me. Like an elimination game,
you're gonna suspend the coach because she was saying what
everybody's been thinking and vocalizing all season long. We gonna
get into the reffing later. I don't know if I
can get fined or anything in the off season talking
about the officiating, but we're going to get into that
a little bit later. I do want to also give
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a shout out to the Phoenix Mercury social media team
because their posts are hilarious them I would say them
in Dallas, shout out admin Dallas and Phoenix admin are
like top tier like as far as with like the
memes and the captions, like they're up there like overall content.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I think Vegas is still like up there as well.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
But Admin Dallas and Phoenix have the most hilarious posts,
So shout out to the admin. They don't get shown
a lot of love, they get attacked a lot in
the comments.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
As an ex As an ex admin, I can I
can attell.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Do you comment on your posts, like even though it's
like not you, because I remember in La our social
media girl, she was like she said she would like
post things and like people would be like so mean
in the comments, and she's like, my feelings would get
a little like I know it's not like at me,
but like it still hurts my feelings. And I'm like, girl,
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you about to just shake that off because there's when.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
You go into work the day after and l that
the comments are going to be mean, and you know,
when you go into work the day after a win,
the comments are going to love you. It also controls
what we can post, like we can we can't post
certain stuff if we lose, So it could like they
they are being ran by like their bosses and stuff.
They can't just post whatever they want. It's not admin's fault.
But no, the comment I mean, the comments are talking
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to us. The comments are talking to the team, and
they do not read.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
The The worst comments on teams pages is if like
the team does like a player of the.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Game but the team lost.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I'm like, oh, like, and you have to do those
because they're sponsored, so we gotta do the whether just
so y'all know whether we win or lose.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
We got to post the player of the game because
spons are by somebody.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
You gotta keep your eyes off oh me, No, like
y'all lost my thirty Why is they're a player of
the game or like the set is like something like
not very good because it was a loss, and like
everyone played.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Bad, but they got to pick somebody.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
And the comments are so mean, Like y'all are ruthless
on the intern nets.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Please be kind to the girls.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Speaking of negative SATs, I did want to say this
while we were speaking about the Minnesota Phoenix series. Minnesota
is the first WNBA team ever to lose two playoff
games when leading by fourteen or more prisints.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
That's really crazy, which not a happy sad now, but
how does that happen?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
You got to take care of you.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I mean, Phoenix like literally have been the comeback kids
all playoffs. Aighte is like literally the most competitive person
I think I've ever seen. I've played, I've played with her,
I've played against her. When she gets that look in
her eyes like just move out the way.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Going to run you over.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
So I mean, I don't think anybody is surprised that
the Mercury made it to the finals considering what was
going on with the Links, but the fact that the
Links still showed up played really hard played their hearts out.
I don't know what is going to be next for
the Links. I think that Phoenix has been such a
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great example of like resetting the league in my opinion. Guys,
I've been watching the WBA since I've been a child. Okay,
I love this league and I pay very close attention
to it. What I've noticed about the w that's very
different from the NBA is like when something doesn't work,
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they don't like blow it up. Like they don't be like, okay,
like we tried, it didn't work, let's try something new.
They like, well keep pieces that like they'll keep the
main pieces, but then move the adjacent accessory pieces quote unquote,
which is like bench players, role players like players like me,
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for example, when I don't want to say it's an.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Issue, but clearly it's the main piece.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
The main pieces aren't producing what the plan was, which
is ultimately wins in a championship. So I think Phoenix
was the perfect example of Yes, the dt ERA ended.
They said, Okay, BG, you're going to Atlanta. Okay, Tosh,
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You're going to New York. Even though yes, the way
those both of those situations panned out were shitty in hindsight,
like they probably could have handled both of those situations better.
But businesses business, Trust me, I know better than anybody
how that shit goes. But a lot of people were
like this group, they're not it's not going to work,
like there's too many new people. But they put together
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a really good squad from top to bottom. They had
I think they still have the second or first most
rookies on their roster.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Like they did a really good job.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
And I think teams moving forward can take note of
if you bring a group of people together.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
And it doesn't you have a window.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
There is a window of opportunity, and we see it
all the time in the NBA. And you made the
most hilarious video about Kevin Durant with his.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Windows of opportunity, Like.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
That's Kevin Durant probably will go down as like the
best player at his position when he retired, when all
of a sudd is done, all it's said and done,
He's going to be one of the best ever. But
He's been in situations where like this doesn't work, blow
it up, This doesn't work, blow it up?
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Like is it good to do that all the time? No?
But is it good to never do it? Also?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
No?
Speaker 3 (19:47):
So I think Phoenix, just.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Like the Valkyries, have the bootprint of expansion, and Phoenix
have the bootprint of let's move on, like blow this up,
let's move on.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
And now they're the finals.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
So Lexie, I gotta ask because I know somebody listening
is wondering what you're really getting at, because we have
been raving about Minnesota all season, about how everything works,
about how deep they are, about how every piece has
its slot of the pie, about how fee and this
and that and coaching and so what are you getting at?
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Because I personally feel like it is not blow it
up time in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Honestly, they have new ownership.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
This is two years in a row that they have
not won the championship that they were quote unquote supposed
to win. If it was me and this is my team,
I'm not blowing it up either, but it's not up
to them at this point.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Everybody's a free agent.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I said last week, guys, the amount of movement that
we are going to see in free agency or I
could be completely wrong and everybody stays put, But you're not.
I'm so interested, especially with the announcements of Unrivaled.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
A lot of new a lot of new faces are
going to be down in Miami.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Rubin elbows keep keying it up during free agency time,
so it's going to be so interesting. So I don't
even think that the blow it up is going to
come from like the higher ups. It's gonna come from
the players being like, Okay, well this situation was great,
it was cool. Now let me go try and do
it over here with these players and let me try
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do it over here or bring those players to where
we're at.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
If if they were all not free agents, would I
blow up the team?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
No, I would not, because I want this group to win,
Like I think everybody really wanted them to win, a
lot of people wanted to feed to an MVP, A
lot of people wanted them to win the championship, and
neither happened.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
But here's the thing thing in sports, and this is
why I have been so anti blow it up. I'm
anti blow it up, and the NBA I'm antiabload of
in the w Obviously, don't continue with something that clearly
doesn't work. But I don't think what we're seeing with
the Lynks is it not working. I think we're seeing
a lot of bad luck. Love plays so much into
winning a championship. Not only that the MVP had fe
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not gotten hurt, not saying Asian didn't deserve her MVP award,
but Phee was clearly the favorite to win MVP, and
then she got hurt and we got to see what
the team could do without her. Had she not gotten hurt,
we would have never seen that. And who knows how
things were got down in Vegas. Who knows how that
would have shaked out. So she might have won the
MVP had she not gotten hurt.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
For this game, for you know what I'm saying, we
and even last year with them losing in the finals,
like there was so many things that happened in that
last game where people were just like, how did y'all
lose that game? And now the same thing is happening again.
You know you saw the emotion. I don't know if
you guys saw Kmax presser after the game, like she
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was like, oh the fact that you have to like
go speak to the media after moments like that is
like I hate that. But she went up there like
the champ that she is and answered all the questions.
It was very gracious, even though she was sobbing and
I was like, can y'all let the baby like get
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herself together before she comes up here, But you could
just see the emotion and she said that basically was
like what they have in that locker room is something
that you that is very rare in pro sports. So
in that aspect, like, no, I wouldn't blow up this team.
And when guys, when we say blow up, I know
that sounds very like aggressive and horrible and mean, but
like that's just like what you say, like you gotta
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blow it up and that just.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Doesn't happen in the WNBA often.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
And when I say blow it up as opposed to
make some moves. Make some moves are what you were
talking about earlier, moving some role players around, putting pieces
around your core to make them better. By blow it up,
we mean move something bad.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
They they had DT tash BG was like their big three,
and now they have at Ka and Satu like flip
flopped superstars for superstars.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Like I will also note that injuries and I guess
officiating to a certain degree, but I'm not a fan
of blaming the officiating in any sport ever and any
win loss ever. But another piece of the pie, as
far as talking about luck going into this year's finals,
the New York Liberty. Had we had a healthy Stewie
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all season long, had they been able to stay healthy
this season, that team also would have shook out very differently.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah, I mean the Liberty, their luck was just terrible.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I don't even have I don't have the number on it,
but like, I don't even know how many games.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
They had a fully healthy roster. Least they're starting five
like or top to bottom. They always had somebody out.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Kenny Burke was out for a while, Izzy Harrison was
out for a while, JJ was out.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Like they always were dealing with something.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
So they just never were able to get any type
of continuity. And you know that happened sometimes. And again
I mean they fired their head coach. We did say
that New York was going to have some decisions to
make after the season, and that was the first one
they made, which shocked a lot of people. But again,
if something ain't working, which.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Is crazy because they just want a championship.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
But you know, things like that happen, and when you
have you know, a lot of when you have somewhat
disappointing season, changes have to be made and you can't always.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Blame the player.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Someone got to take the blame, unfortunately, And people have
been really vocal about the firing of the head coaches
of the WNBA.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Y'all would hate the NBA. Y'all would hate to be
fans of the NBA.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
They fired coaches fresh off with like fresh off championship
mid season. Like, I don't see very many mid season
firings in the w either, but I was on a
team where that happened in LA my first year in LA.
Fired Derek Fisher middle of the season, and dealing with
that is crazy, Like there's so many emotions that you
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have to process when your coach gets fired in the
middle of the year and then you just have to
like keep playing.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
And I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I don't, like, I'm not a fan of firing mid season,
but sometimes I guess, you know, change has to be
made now. So shout out to the Phoenix Mercury making
it to the WNBA finals. Another fun fact, uh, this
will be the first final since twenty twenty one that
hasn't had the participant from the previous season.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yay.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Fun fact. Interesting fun fact.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Also another fun fact, there's not a single person on
this roster who was on the roster in twenty twenty one,
either that one.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Or the coach.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
So what Phoenix said, hard pivot.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
That's exactly what they did, and they pivoted right to
the WBA finals. So I'm excited, and we still don't
know who their opponent will be. So let's get into
this next series between the Aces and the Fever, because it.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Has been.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
I want to I would say spicy, but I think
that's an understatement.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
It's been one.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Hundred blood bet maybe I have so much about you
got it on this side of girl. Okay, y'all, the
war is over yet. The Fever and the Aces play
tonight to decide who is going to the NBAWNBA Finals.
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And in Game four, the Fever one ninety to eighty
three to four again five off of a Kelsey Mitchell,
Kelsey Mitchell dagger and one and her twenty five points.
That girl, I don't understand she retired.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
No, No, it's like never ending energy and speed.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
But really, what I want to get into Eliah Boston
with twenty four, and she drew foul trouble on multiple
Vegas starters. Asia Wilson was still dominant with thirty one,
but there was a major free throw controversy that got
everybody talking. There was a bunch of controversies that got
everybody talking. Between a Leah Boston rage baiting Asia Wilson
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and the thirty four fever three free throw attempts to
the Aces eleven free throws, Liahbolson alone took thirteen free throws,
which is more than Vegas as an entire team.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
That's crazy, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I Wilson called the discrepancy and fouls interesting.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, she's kind of correct, because first of all, I
think the refs are like fed up, that's what it's giving.
And I need the refs to all have a little
ref Kumbaya meeting at the end of the year, and
they need to like watch tape and film because see,
I don't know, I'm just gonna say it, the refereeing
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the season was has been absolutely atrocious. Like inconsistent is
the word that a lot of people would use to
describe it, and I think that's a very good word
to use. It's just been very all over the place.
And yeah, like certain players do get special whistles, like
that is a thing, that's very much a thing, and
they earn it and the way that they.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Play warrants that.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
But the game has gotten to a point where it's
like hard to watch at times with the physicality of it.
Like Gino Oriama, actually because my parents sent me this article,
Gino said that the officiating has been really bad in
the WNBA for like a few years. His direct quote is,
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people can't get open, people can't cut. The ball handler
is getting whacked every time they move. Listen, you always
expect your best player.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
To have a rough time. I've been through that and
I've claimed I've complained about it a lot. I don't
blame the officials.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
I don't think it's actually it's the people actually officiating
the games. I think it's what's either in the rule
book or what's accepted as this is a style of
play that we want, because if they didn't want that
style of play, they wouldn't allow it. Like I don't
know why all of a sudden, like this over physical,
crazy basketball has become acceptable in the w like it
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was cool like last year at the beginning when people
were like, I mean, it wasn't cool last year because
we know what the narrative last year was about the
physicality of the league. But I thought it also was
a good thing to see, like how physical the w
really is and how it's just such a major leap
from college to pros.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
But I think it's like.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Gotten a little bit out of hand, and I think
that's what's led to the injuries. I think that's what's
led to the crazy fatigue amongst players. I mean, on
top of playing forty four games plus the playoffs. I
think that it's they need to reel it in and
it's too late to do it now obviously, But.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Like I will say, Eliah Boston, super super super talented.
I have spoken about her one million time, super positively
big fan of hers, very talented player, love her down
this pushing into other people and getting other people to
push into her. I don't know if I'm exaggerating. All
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I know is what I saw when I was there,
and what I have seen throughout the season and throughout
the playoffs, and in the.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Most man almost kind of pushing in other people, almost
kind of ebo on the face by her in our game,
I hit the matrix on her. I said, oh no, no,
I know what you'd be doing. I saw on it,
I saw it of it. She got an offensive foul,
but she didn't even hit me. But I was like
if she, if I didn't move, she would have elbowed
me right in my face. Like I literally was like,
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I was gonna give her the layup. I'm not even
gonna lie to y'all like I'm not one of those
people that's gonna take one for the team like that.
I'm sorry, an elbow to the face when I'm already
like under manned, like I obviously wasn't able to get
around her to front her. Okay, whatever, So now I'm
gonna use my speed to like maneuver, which thank god,
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because I probably would have had a broken ups.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
So that is It is frustrating as a fan. I
can only imagine how frustrating it as a player. However,
it is to her benefit to continue to do because
it's working and it's being allowed. It's not on her
to stop getting That's why I said all those really
nice things about her before I brought it up. It
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is very frustrating to watch, and it's not fair because
they aren't allowing it from everybody. But that pushing another people,
elbow wing, getting other people to push into you, that
bulldozing through that that has to stop, and that is
up to the refs to stop it. If I were hurt,
I would take it up a notch because I know
it's right.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I mean, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
The refs do have complete control over how much physicality
is allowed in a game. But if a team comes
out like just physically like, you can't call it. You're
not gonna be able to call every single file because
then the game won't get played. So it is in
the team's benefit to come out on level one thousand
and dial it down, versus having the other team come
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at you at level one thousand and you don't know
what to do and now you're fouling.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Now you're on your heels.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Now you're reactionary to everything, which is basically what happened
in the last game. Is the Aces start to be
just reacting to everything. And when you get into that
mode against a team that has been allowed to play
at a super physical level pretty much all season, it's
gonna be very hard for you to win. I think
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that the Aces are gonna win tonight in Vegas. But
the X factor for me, which I could be completely
wrong and she could not, she could still just not
play like she hasn't been, is Kia Stokes thrower in there.
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She has been a staple on this Aces team for years.
She's not gonna she's not gonna give you a lot
of points, but she's gonna rebound, she's gonna defend, she's
going to set great screens. Like Asia and Alyssa need
some time to breathe because they both have.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Their hands full with the Leah Boston and Natasha Howard.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Honestly, Natasha Howard is not an easy person in the
guard by any means either, but she's definitely way less
physical than a Leah Boston. I think that if they
utilize just Kia Stokes's size and her IQ, that could
be very helpful for Asia and Alyssa in the post.
But she hasn't really been seeing a lot of court
time as of late.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
So.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I don't know if that's going to be the thing.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
But if I was the coach, I would throw Kia
Stokes in there just to see what that looks like.
As far as stopping Aliah Boston, especially after the game
she had last night. Also Kirsten Bell, Jewel Lloyd, and
Dana Evans. Between the three of them, they both they
have to have at least fifteen points between the three
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of them. However that comes that's that is also a
reason why that they're going to win this basketball game
because they have not been producing like we think that
they should be, especially Jule. But again, she's in a
completely different role and again her team is almost the finals,
so she is definitely take in a step back from
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how we're used to seeing her play for the greater
good of the team, which is something that I personally
have liked seeing from a superstar like Jewel because it
is hard to find a role in a place in
this league, and the fact that she's been able to
do so and helping this team get to the finals
coming coming off of the bench is very admirable.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
She led the league in.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Scoring to just two years ago, if you guys didn't
know that, literally number one in scoring two years ago,
and now she's averaging I think ten or eleven points
coming up the bench for the Aces, but one game away.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
From the WNBA Finals. So those are my X factors.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I don't have an X factor for Indiana because like
their whole team is an X factor because the fact
that they are also one game away from the WNBA
Finals is absolutely insane.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Like with Caitlin Clark setting.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Up with half of their team sitting on the bench,
Imagine the Indiana Fever, not even not even y'ave all
thought it.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Imagine the Indiana Fever go to the WBA fin us say,
Kayla Clark isn't play.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Do you know how tight the powers that be? You're
gonna blow?
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Like I imagine that.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
And if you told anybody at the beginning of the
season that the Fever would get to the WBA Finals
without Kaitlin Clark, a lot of people would be like,
there's no way, there's no way.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Not even just Kaitlin, like we said, without the entire game.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
So yeah, the entire team.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
So, like we said last week, like that bench group
and their energy, yes, like should.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
They related a little bit, maybe maybe a tad, but.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
It's been the reason why they've you know, been going,
like we said, like Kelsey, and they don't really say
much on the court. The bench really, I think that's
why the bench is always on level one thousand because
they don't.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
They're super st.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
No, we said a Leah doesn't say much, and ever
since we said that, she'd been saying a lot.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
She was saying, Yeah, she's sneaky with it.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
She is sneaky with it. And again Shamas are, so
I don't be. I don't I stay out of post
player's business, you know, say I stay on the perimeter
because it's dangerous down there, as we've been seeing firsthand.
I do have a fun stat from the fever. So
we obviously know that Kelsey Mitchell is leading the charge.
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She's been playing out of her mind. I'm not sure
how many points she's averaging in the playoffs right now,
I'm pretty sure she's leading and.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Scoring in the playoffs. Let me check real quick. She
got yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Her or Asia right now?
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Asia?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, Asia is averaging twenty five and Kelsey's averaging twenty three.
So Kelsey is second and postseason scoring at twenty three
points per game on her team. She has taken eighty
three shots. The next highest person that has taken shots
is a Leiah Boston with forty nine, and then the
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next person after that is thirty one Odyssey Sims. So
when we say we have two players right now quite
literally carrying their teams on their backs, and Asia Wilson
and Kelsey Mitchell, and the fact that they are completely
opposite positions is ironic because they're rarely going to guard
each other or ever be matched up against each other.
But that's what makes the series so much fun because
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it is about their teammates, you know, stepping up and
helping them win. I like I said, I think Vegas got it.
It's a very hard gym to win in, even though
Indiana did go in there in Game one and felt
to ask them.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
But this is Game five, it's different.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I will say the Fever now have four upset wins
this postseason, which is the most since the twenty twenty
one Chicago Skuy. The winner Game five is going to
the WBA Finals. I y'all know what I want to happen.
So I will be watching tonight and I will be
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clutching my pearls and.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
I kind of really want this for Kelsey Mitchell because
you know, this is the Kelsey Mitchell fan club over here.
But selfishly, I would love a Phoenix Vegas Finals because
I could probably go to one of those games from
LA and this.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Is already a win, like I feel like I felt
like before the Dream Series, this season was already a
win for Kelsey Mitchell.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
It's all right, everything is. You don't need no more Kelsey.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah you did it, Girl, you did it, Joe, you
did it. No, she would be I mean, she's already
stamped in the Fever organization. But if she brings this
team to the finals, like she will be super duper
stamped like Tamika Catching's type, stamped like up.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
There, like Tamika Ketchings.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Is if y'all don't know, and a lot we got
a lot of new w fans in the chat Tamika
Catchings just look her up.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Please, who the hell Tamika Catchings is?
Speaker 2 (41:12):
And the way that this organization has Finally, I don't
think they ever undervalued Kelsey Mitchell. But even in her
media availability one day, she said, I finally have a
coach that pours into me, believes in me, gives me confidence.
And she's been in the league for eight years and
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that's the first time she's ever said anything like that.
So the fact that Steph White, who is coaching her
ass off, by the way, shout out to Steph White.
The way she's poured into Kelsey Mitchell. This season has
been really amazing because I've always said Kelsey Mitchell has
been super underrated her entire career, even though she's been
putting up these numbers since year one, Day one. The
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fact that she's getting all her flowers right now, whether
they win tonight or lose tonight, this season has been
absolutely incredible for Kelsey Mitchell. And God willing our CBA
goes through, Kelsey Mitchell will be getting paid.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Honey. Hey.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
I will also say, from a fan perspective, shout out
to the Fever just a general y'all know, if you
see me on social media, I give y'all hard time,
but I will say this about the NBA to fever.
It is really nice to see with a player like
Caitlyn Clark. That's kind of it's a hard role to
play with playing with a player like that, and kind
of just you're kind of supporting cast to the general public,
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you know what I mean, if just to the general
public and sometimes to your coaches or to other people
supporting cast, but for to have a player like that,
one of the most famous people on Earth, on the
bench and get to show off and be like, yo,
check this out and like have that moment like put
the whole world on notice. Maybe people turn on the
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game because they want to see Kitlin Clark or they
want to see the Fever or Sophie Cunningham or something
like that, and then they get to see these players
show out and do their thing. And not only that,
but when it's reducing all of these upsets.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
I mean they won the Commissioners Cup.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
I mean I think that you know, remember at the
beginning of the season when everyone was up in arms
about them having all all of the nationally televised games
and why aren't they why are they putting them on
TV every time? Like look at what they're doing. Like,
I don't know how many teams would have been able
to have the attention they had from the beginning, the
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drama they had at the beginning, the injuries that they've
had all season long, and continue to keep showing up
and winning and competing and staying very humble throughout the
entire thing. That's one of my favorite things about Kelsey Mitchell,
how humble she is, how grateful she is, and how
much she just really loves the game. There's not a
better player in the League than to have this moment
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than Kelsey Mitchell in my opinion, like whole world is
watching her. She's on TV every night, Like, I just
love this so much for her, and I feel like
her pairing with Kaylyn Clark last season was dynamic post
All Star.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Which we all knew was gonna happen. It was gonna
take some time for them to jail.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
But even that, the season that they had last year,
I think that like invigorated Kelsey for this season. You know,
they came back like at a different level, both of them.
Before Kaitlyn got hurt. I mean, I know she was shooting.
Her shooting wasn't that great, but the way she was
facilitating and finding her teammates and Eliah start the season
off really great. Kelsey started to see it off really great,
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Like they were rolling for the most part. But Sophie
Cuneham was playing well, Lexi Hall was playing well, and
that's because they have an elite point guard in Kaylen Clark.
So I love this for Kelsey Mitchell. So if they
do happen to win, I'm not even gonna be mad
at that because I want Kelsey Mitchell to get all
of the things. But We'll see what happens tonight in
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game five in Vegas. I'm excited. I will be tuned in.
I don't even know what time the game is at.
What time is the game It's at nine thirty. Well, yeah,
I'm very, very excited about this game five.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Well before before we go, let's get into this links
Mercury officiating, suspension finds drama. Let's see.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
First of all, I've never seen a coach almost swing
on a rec before, like.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Fing awful is what she said, fing malpractice practice.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
I mean, I love when coaches go hard for their players,
especially in a play like that at the very end
of the game that ultimately led to the Mercury winning
game three feet hurting her ankle. Like it was like
just emotions were very high in that moment, obviously, but
the screaming, uh, the almost punching, the cursing out the refs,
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I mean, cursing out the fans, media fans, it was
like it just seemed like Kathy was just like in
her little office like just boo boop, Like it was
like levels and then suspension was at the top, and
Cheryl like just checked all the damn boxes. We already
we I mean, we touched on the officiating earlier in
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the show, like it's just been just madly inconsistent, wildly inconsistent.
And I hope that for next season they have a
really really, really really really intensive session together because the
points of ephansis points of emphasis that they showed us
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at the beginning of the season. We have to sit
down with the ref and watch a whole video and
have we have questions and we ask questions about it,
like why do we even have these sessions when what
y'all tell us is not what happens during the season,
like not even remotely.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
But I also want to know the what got me
is I think it's really unfair. I realized she did
go she did go crazy. Play dwn's advocate. She went nuts.
Suspending the coach in a game, playing without your coach
and your star player is really difficult, and especially in
a decisive game. I thought that was a bit much.
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But on top of that, to find her what fifteen
thousand dollars, and on top of that, to find the
people that came out and.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
Support of like what are we doing you and why
are you're thinking about it?
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Why are refs exempt from any type of criticism from
players and coaches.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
I've actually never I've never.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Truly wondered that before, Like, why do players and coaches
get fined for talking about the officiating?
Speaker 3 (48:05):
If it's bad, it's bad. If it's good, it's like,
but you know what's crazy?
Speaker 1 (48:10):
You find that? I want to know because obviously there's
levels to finding people. But how does Caitlin Clark get
find two hundred dollars for saying refs can't stop us?
But you find a coach fifteen crazy for complaining about officiating,
and then on top of that, you find coaches just
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for sticking up for her or agree with her one
thousand dollars?
Speaker 2 (48:34):
How does it?
Speaker 1 (48:35):
How do you go from two hundred dollars to one
thousand for thou like? That doesn't make it easy?
Speaker 3 (48:39):
And then it's like it's so funny. So like when
you have a challenge, right, so you have the challenges.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
And if a challenge gets accepted, that means that the
ref was wrong in real time and we clocked it
and you had to correct it. They're like I always wondered,
I'm like, do they get like a ding on their
ref grading reports if they have X amount of challenges
or x amount of calls or overturned. Like we as players,
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we like really don't know much about the refs, Like
we know them personally because we see them all the time,
but like I don't know like the nuances and in
depth stuff when it comes to refereeing, like if they
have like a secret society, how like they get evaluated?
What happens if they, you know, get too many complaints
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from coaches?
Speaker 3 (49:33):
Like I've always I always have wondered, like what, First.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Of all, I would never you could pay me, I
would never be a referee a day, am my freaking life?
Speaker 3 (49:42):
No manyway.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
But I'm like, I've never really took a deep dive
into what like the behind the scenes is for referees.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
My conspiracy and the thing that comes to the top
of my head. Again, this is me Mariah Rose, who
doesn't play in the WBA. Can't be fin I'm nothing,
I say, not Lexi Brown speaking. I truly believe some
people have let me think how I want to say.
Some people have a special whistle for good reason and
important reason. I think that there is a lot of this.
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If you're watching on visual, if you're listening, you probably
can guess what gesture I just do with my hand
a lot of that that goes into professional sports, and
I think that the only way that any of that
can be controlled into a way that goes into certain
people's favor is through officiating. And so when you critique
it and criticize it, the people playing in the league
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and the people who actually know what's going on, when
you could get criticize it, you're kind of messing up
that side of the system. And so therefore you're not
supposed to do that and you need to fall in line.
So that's my theory. But what do I know of
associating because it doesn' wouldn't make any sense otherwise. Why
couldn't you Why couldn't you speak of the officiating? Why
don't they get fined for what they do? Why don't
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they get things? Because maybe it's not entirely the reference fault, right.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
And if they do get fined or things like, we
don't know about it. But like every time we do something,
get a tech, get a fine, it's like a news article,
story or something.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Right, But if you make me mad and I say
something to you in the moment in the game, you
could literally kick me out as a wrath.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
Yeah, right, That's why I could be a ref. You say,
so you say something crazy to me one time, boom
tech watch them out me though, like I've I don't
know if y'all remember, I got my first technical foul
in my career this year because I kicked Alyssa Thomas.
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But I only kicked her because she was she was
about to fall on my leg. So I kicked her
because I was like, you're gonna break my leg. You're big,
I'm little. And now that's what that was my only
that's been my only tech ever in eight years.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
I was like, they team me up. I sayd y'all
know me. I leave y'all alone.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
There's a reason. And I needed to play volleyball, a
sport with there there's a net in between me and
the other team because I want nobody touching me. I
would be Draymond greenk.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
Yeah, why are they going into the paint like that?
It's w w E down there? No thank you, no
thank you?
Speaker 1 (52:17):
And I can only imagine basketball. I'm five seven. I
will be like, oh no.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Since we're on the topic of like fouling and officiating,
like I remember, all season long, I think we shot
like the lowest number of free throws per game in
the entire league, and I think it's it's it's it's
hard to argue sometimes because I will say, like my teammates, yes,
like layups are miss shots are missed overall, Like we
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have like some very elite finishers on our team and
a lot of strong players. Like my teammates were like
living in the weight room, like we did plies all
the time, like people like really worked on their box
and their core strength or whatever. So when you go
into the lane and you just finish, you don't always
get that foul call because you just go finish strong.
(53:09):
And I feel like there has to be some type
of conversation about because the athleticism is improving, like Dom
y'all dom freaking con dunk, Like what are they going
to do when Dom catches the alley oop one day
and someone like jumps with her, Like they're going to
have to figure out how to officiate that in the
women's game at some point. The growing athleticism, because I
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was watching it all season long, like Gabby is a
great athlete, Neka Sky like they don't and they don't
fall a lot also, and sometimes you get a foul
call simply because you fall, and sometimes refs wait till
you fall to call the to call the foul. So
for someone like me, like even when I go to
the basket, like I don't fall a lot either, and
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I consider myself a decent finisher at the room.
Speaker 3 (53:55):
I don't like to get hit.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
That people know that about me, Like I will finesse
in Fina, go my way into the lane and try
and not get hit as often as I can. But
then when you are able to do that at such
a high level, sometimes you don't get the benefit of
the foul cause.
Speaker 3 (54:09):
So I hope that you.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
Know, with the growing athleticism and the growing skill set
of a lot of these guards, the refs look at
a lot of game tape and see, you know, what
type of officiating that they need to do moving forward.
Because I think that as the game is, the game
is evolving, players are evolving, the coaching is evolving, the
officiating needs to evolve as well.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
So that's all I have to say about the referee.
I hope I don't get fined. I can't get fined
right now, and.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
If I do, I'm sure I'm gonna invoice the ieart.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
Let's say y'all, we will see you next week, but
when you hear us, it will be after the conclusion
of the Aces Fever game, and you will know who's
going to be in the w A Finals. LEXI, you pick.
Speaker 3 (55:02):
The Aces, I do, I do, I do.
Speaker 1 (55:07):
Listen, I I am gonna say that the Fever gonna
win an only because this last week, no team that
I have wanted to win anything has won anything. Georgia lost,
the Ravens loss, the Cowboys tied, which.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
Is like.
Speaker 3 (55:23):
Bad luck on the Fever.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
So I'm just gonna see gonna win because that's how
my week is very crazy.
Speaker 3 (55:31):
That's crazy. See, that's that's spite for energy, Mariah. I
don't like that, but I'm rooting for the Aces.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
I want to see Asian Wilson in the championship again.
I feel like that would be entertaining.
Speaker 3 (55:45):
And at the end of the day, I just want
everyone to have fun.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
Right, And if I do get an opportunity to go
to a finals game, I'm sorry, y'all, No shade. I
have been to Indy one too many times in the
last couple of years. I went to I went to.
Speaker 3 (56:01):
We're going We're going to Vegas or Phoenix. That's where
we're going to.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
Please, We're going because yeah, thanks, I'm not going back
to you. Well, thank you for listening to this episode
of Full Circle. Lexi say bye to the people.
Speaker 3 (56:18):
We'll see y'all next week.
Speaker 1 (56:21):
Bye. Thanks for listening to Full Circle. We'll be back
next week with more basketball for the Girls, by the girls.
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supervising producer is Grace Fused. Our producer is Zoe Danklab.
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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get
your podcasts. Hello everyone, Welcome back to another episode of
the Full Circle Podcast. I'm Riah Rose here with Lexi Brown. Lexi,
(00:20):
how you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hey, I'm good, guys. I'm back in La. I'm back
in my house. We're so bad.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
You're so back.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I got a couch now in my extra bedroom.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
There's Cannon. He's excited to be back in La.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I'm happy to be back in the sunshine and stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I'm so good, Lexi. I'm glad you're back home. I'm
glad it's sunning. Is it as rainy and Seattle as
everyone says this?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
No, it's not. Okay, let me let me take that
bow because I was there. I was there in like
the good weather. So they were claiming it doesn't rain,
at least not in the summertime. It like miss someone said,
it feels like like people are explain, like a fabreeze bottle.
That's like what the rain feels like. It's like misty,
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and yes, it is very cloudy. And gloomy because I
remember when I got there, I was like, the people
were like, it's depressing up there, and I'm like, is
it the weather? Is it like you the people? No,
it's the weather. Yeah, it's the weather. Makes sense.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
So it is more cloudy than rainy.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
So like coming back to La and it's just the
sun is just his different in La. So I'm so
happy to be back. So no, no, just no disrespect
to Seattle.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
But right I would have to have my hair on
braids twenty four.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
And that yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I will say
there's there's not really much humidity and on the on
the nice days with the weather was good, like it
was like beautiful, like, but I experienced that light. I
was there from April to last week, which is mid September.
I probably experienced like ten beautiful days, and a lot
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of the beautiful days we were on the road.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
So I missed a lot of the beautiful days. But anyway,
there's a lot for us to talk about. We want
to start. Actually I want.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
To start somewhere first, guys. Okay, so I know that,
let me rewind. This is my podcast, Okay, this is
our show. We get to talk about what we want
to talk about, and I like to talk about my
personal experiences. Okay, I don't typically look at any comments
anywhere anymore, but.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Sometimes I go dabble on our YouTube.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
We appreciate y'all that watch on YouTube because that's really fire.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
But there are like a few.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Comments on our last video that kind of rubbed me
the wrong way. They didn't like comments, don't hurt my
feelings anymore, but like when things kind of rubbed me
the wrong way, I'm just kind of like, I want
to like address this. So again, I don't know who
these people are. I don't know what their deal is whatever.
And I've seen this comment come up a lot in
different ways and different capacities. Is that people like continue
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to talk down on my career in totality, and I
have never understood why they've done that, why they want
to do that, why they think that what I've done
in this league, what I've done in college is just
not good enough for me.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
To speak on basketball. I guys, I'm a hoope.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Like all I do is watch, eat, sleep, breathe basketball,
So of course, like that's what I want to talk
about on the show. I don't like talking about myself.
I don't like talking about what I did at Duke,
what I did at Maryland, what I've done in the league,
Like that's not what this show is about. But I
speak because I've had a lot of experiences, and.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I feel like a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Of people have gotten comfortable with speaking on things that
they've never experienced, like that's the law, like that's that's
the word.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
That y'all are gonna believe. But y'all an't gonna believe the.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Person that literally is living, experiencing doing all of these
things in real time. So I don't like when people
look determine, like whether what I say is valid or not,
or if I can have a platform or not, because
y'all look at my stats and you're like, well, she's
probably not. She's not as good as she thinks she is,
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and da da da da da. Because it's not about that.
It's about me wanting to educate y'all on the game
and talk about the game that I love.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
And I'm tired of it.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So when y'all come on our show under our video
and leave comments like that, I get irked. And I
actually responded to some on YouTube, which I never do that,
but I had to hop in a little bit, but
I was like, okay, like y'all think that what my
little eight points is not important? Let me give you
some facts, you know me little missmum fact, y'all want
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to hear some fun facts about my little eight points. Okay,
I got them, I wrote them down. Okay, right, it's here, Lexi. Okay,
We're gonna talk about the playoffs briefly in my soapbox
moment and then I'll be done.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
So sorry, guys.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
So in the playoffs, in the semi finals, which is
between the Mercury, the LINKX, the Aces and the Fever. Okay,
On the Mercury, there are three starters that average fifteen
points or more three of the starters, the other two
average less than ten, and Dowana Bonner averages eleven coming.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Off the bench.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
For the Links, there are three starters that average thirteen
or more points and the other two starters average less
than ten. On the Aces, there are three starters that
average eleven or more points and the other two starters
ten or less. Jewel Lloyd averages eleven off the bench,
And in the Fever there are three I've put three
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and a half players that average eleven or more point
because Odyssey Sims has only played for twelve games, but
she's averaging ten points and the other two starters are
averaging less than ten. So, guys, it is not abnormal
for a player in the league to not average more
than ten points, like and be a very important part
of the team.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
So let's let's remove that.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
For whatever reason, my little eight points or the thirteen
points I was averaging before I got sick, doesn't matter
to y'all.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
But I just wanted to.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Put that in perspective to y'all, because it's not abnormal
for a player in the WNBA to average less than
ten points as a starter playing a lot of minutes.
Me personally, I don't think that's a good thing. I
think that the league is too talented for that. Again,
another hit my hill. Make the games longer so people
have more opportunities, But who knows if.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
That's going to happen. But yeah, guys, that's all I
wanted to say about that. Sorry, Lexie.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
You know from talking sports on big platforms that when
people don't like what you have to say, they don't
attack what you have to say, they attack you. That's
just what that is. Don't even pay that. At the
end of the day, I views of you and a comment.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Thank you for your view.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
We appreciate it, but don't come at me crazy on
my on my shit please you y'all could go talk
about me over there. But when it comes to our baby,
let's keep it cute. Okay, speaking of keeping it not.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
So cute, yeah, like keeping it cute.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
These semifinals have have delivered as zero not keeping it
cute at all. Controversy, emotional reactions, officiating, drama, fanishing.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I don't even know where we should start.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Honestly, we did say that both series we're going to
go to five games, so I'm very disappointed that today,
September thirtieth.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
We only have one game five.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Very disappointed in that, But shout out to the Phoenix
merch for advancing to the WNBA Finals for the first
time since twenty twenty one when they lost to the
Chicago Sky unfortunately. But I also saw unfortunately. I mean
we I'm not the Sky anymore, so you know, I can't.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Be like, Yay, we won.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
You know, that's far far in the past for me.
It seems like ages ago. But let's get into that
series first before we get into the Vegas Fever.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Do you want to talk about the series a little bit?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, Oh my gosh. Okay, so the Links were chasing
a fifth championship and their drive for five was denied
by Voenax.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Phoenix was supposed to be turning the page from the
DT Brittany Griner era, but Sachu Soabaly dedicates the win
to DT and shows that her shadow still looms large.
You guys, they are still living in their greatness era.
We thought that there was going to be a little
bit of a buffer between what we knew the Phoenix
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murcur to be and what they are now. It seems
to be that they are getting right back to what
we have seen from them in the past. Game four
recap Okay, Phoenix trailed sixty eight to fifty five heading
into the fourth quarter and then outscored Minnesota thirty one
to thirteen.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
That game was amazing.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I was so happy for Phoenix because we said at
the beginning of the season in our preseason that this
was the best constructed team from top to bottom, and
they are proving it right now in the playoffs, even
with the addition of Dewana Bonner, which that kind of
like knocked them off their pivot for a little bit,
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not very long, but the fact that they have a all
time great like dB comfortably coming off of the Bitch
and being that spark that they needed.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
dB won a championship in.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Phoenix in twenty fourteen, and now it's twenty twenty five
and she's back in the finals with a completely new
era of Phoenix Mercury basketball. I'm pretty sure that for
her that's such a full circle moment considering how her
season started in Indiana, for her to get to the finals,
for her to be literally the reason why Phoenix won
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that game.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
With her shooting in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Like I think people don't realize, like, yes, that team
is new, but Ka is a finals MVP, Aight's been
to the finals twice.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
dB is a champion. Sammy Whitcomb is a champion.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Like they have a lot of really good, experienced veterans
on that team, and the way that they just kind
of blocked out all of the noise, all of the negativity,
all of the doubt all season long, except from us,
you know, even though we did say the Links were
gonna win technically, but we have been very high on
the Phoenix Mercury all season long, especially with AT's MVP
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caliber season, I think that this is just like the
cherry on top for their season. I think that defensively, offensively,
they're clicking on all cylinders and shout out to the
Mercury honestly, because.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, dB was she was definitely productive thirteen point six rebounds,
saw too with twenty one and AT with twenty three,
eight and ten, leading the team in all categories. In
that MVP race. We were saying that she was getting
slept on a little bit, but it seems to be
that she had the last laugh so far getting into
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the finals zone.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
So far.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I mean, I think that we were robbed of a
classic series with Fee getting hurt in Game three, show
read getting suspended because of her comments about the officiating,
which we'll also get into a little bit later. But
special shout outs to Kleb McBride and Cordy Williams. They
really did everything that they could to try and keep
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the Links alive getting into a game five back in
Many because I feel like if they had a Game five.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
In Minnesota that they were probably gonna win that game.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
So CALEA McBride had thirty thirty.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
One, Courtney had twenty and six.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I think that Jeff Shepherd was a great substitution for Fee.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
But she hadn't been played.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I think they said that she played more in that
first half of Game four that she played in all
of Game three.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
So when you get thrown into the fire like that, like.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
She came out like hooping, but then the Mercury made
adjustments and kind of quieted her down a little bit.
But again, that's like a tall task to ask for
somebody that you know, was seeing very few minutes throughout
the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
But I think she did her part.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I think that they missed Djona Carrington more than they
thought they would. Her energy, her presence, her defense, like
just her activity. Defense is so helpful for a team
like the Links, who have such offensive weapons and they
don't really go super super deep in their bench as
far as like defensive players. So I think with them
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losing Djona that kind of hurt them a little bit
as well.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
So I mean, I think people are probably gonna be like, well, the.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Phoenix beat the Links, and they were missing this and
they were missing their coach, and then that look at
the look at the fever right now, like that is
just not an excuse at this point in your season.
But I am a little disappointed, not a little. I'm
very disappointed that they suspended Cheryl because, huh yeah, give
her a little fine and keep it moving like Game four,
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an elimination game is what got me. Like an elimination game,
you're gonna suspend the coach because she was saying what
everybody's been thinking and vocalizing all season long. We gonna
get into the reffing later. I don't know if I
can get fined or anything in the off season talking
about the officiating, but we're going to get into that
a little bit later. I do want to also give
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a shout out to the Phoenix Mercury social media team
because their posts are hilarious them I would say them
in Dallas, shout out admin Dallas and Phoenix admin are
like top tier like as far as with like the
memes and the captions, like they're up there like overall content.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I think Vegas is still like up there as well.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
But Admin Dallas and Phoenix have the most hilarious posts,
So shout out to the admin. They don't get shown
a lot of love, they get attacked a lot in
the comments.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
As an ex As an ex admin, I can I
can attell.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Do you comment on your posts, like even though it's
like not you, because I remember in La our social
media girl, she was like she said she would like
post things and like people would be like so mean
in the comments, and she's like, my feelings would get
a little like I know it's not like at me,
but like it still hurts my feelings. And I'm like, girl,
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you about to just shake that off because there's when.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
You go into work the day after and l that
the comments are going to be mean, and you know,
when you go into work the day after a win,
the comments are going to love you. It also controls
what we can post, like we can we can't post
certain stuff if we lose, So it could like they
they are being ran by like their bosses and stuff.
They can't just post whatever they want. It's not admin's fault.
But no, the comment I mean, the comments are talking
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to us. The comments are talking to the team, and
they do not read.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
The The worst comments on teams pages is if like
the team does like a player of the.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Game but the team lost.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I'm like, oh, like, and you have to do those
because they're sponsored, so we gotta do the whether just
so y'all know whether we win or lose.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
We got to post the player of the game because
spons are by somebody.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
You gotta keep your eyes off oh me, No, like
y'all lost my thirty Why is they're a player of
the game or like the set is like something like
not very good because it was a loss, and like
everyone played.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Bad, but they got to pick somebody.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
And the comments are so mean, Like y'all are ruthless
on the intern nets.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Please be kind to the girls.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Speaking of negative SATs, I did want to say this
while we were speaking about the Minnesota Phoenix series. Minnesota
is the first WNBA team ever to lose two playoff
games when leading by fourteen or more prisints.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
That's really crazy, which not a happy sad now, but
how does that happen?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
You got to take care of you.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I mean, Phoenix like literally have been the comeback kids
all playoffs. Aighte is like literally the most competitive person
I think I've ever seen. I've played, I've played with her,
I've played against her. When she gets that look in
her eyes like just move out the way.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Going to run you over.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
So I mean, I don't think anybody is surprised that
the Mercury made it to the finals considering what was
going on with the Links, but the fact that the
Links still showed up played really hard played their hearts out.
I don't know what is going to be next for
the Links. I think that Phoenix has been such a
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great example of like resetting the league in my opinion. Guys,
I've been watching the WBA since I've been a child. Okay,
I love this league and I pay very close attention
to it. What I've noticed about the w that's very
different from the NBA is like when something doesn't work,
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they don't like blow it up. Like they don't be like, okay,
like we tried, it didn't work, let's try something new.
They like, well keep pieces that like they'll keep the
main pieces, but then move the adjacent accessory pieces quote unquote,
which is like bench players, role players like players like me,
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for example, when I don't want to say it's an.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Issue, but clearly it's the main piece.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
The main pieces aren't producing what the plan was, which
is ultimately wins in a championship. So I think Phoenix
was the perfect example of Yes, the dt ERA ended.
They said, Okay, BG, you're going to Atlanta. Okay, Tosh,
(18:33):
You're going to New York. Even though yes, the way
those both of those situations panned out were shitty in hindsight,
like they probably could have handled both of those situations better.
But businesses business, Trust me, I know better than anybody
how that shit goes. But a lot of people were
like this group, they're not it's not going to work,
like there's too many new people. But they put together
(18:57):
a really good squad from top to bottom. They had
I think they still have the second or first most
rookies on their roster.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Like they did a really good job.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
And I think teams moving forward can take note of
if you bring a group of people together.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
And it doesn't you have a window.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
There is a window of opportunity, and we see it
all the time in the NBA. And you made the
most hilarious video about Kevin Durant with his.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Windows of opportunity, Like.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
That's Kevin Durant probably will go down as like the
best player at his position when he retired, when all
of a sudd is done, all it's said and done,
He's going to be one of the best ever. But
He's been in situations where like this doesn't work, blow
it up, This doesn't work, blow it up?
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Like is it good to do that all the time? No?
But is it good to never do it? Also?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
No?
Speaker 3 (19:47):
So I think Phoenix, just.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Like the Valkyries, have the bootprint of expansion, and Phoenix
have the bootprint of let's move on, like blow this up,
let's move on.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
And now they're the finals.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
So Lexie, I gotta ask because I know somebody listening
is wondering what you're really getting at, because we have
been raving about Minnesota all season, about how everything works,
about how deep they are, about how every piece has
its slot of the pie, about how fee and this
and that and coaching and so what are you getting at?
(20:25):
Because I personally feel like it is not blow it
up time in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Honestly, they have new ownership.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
This is two years in a row that they have
not won the championship that they were quote unquote supposed
to win. If it was me and this is my team,
I'm not blowing it up either, but it's not up
to them at this point.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Everybody's a free agent.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I said last week, guys, the amount of movement that
we are going to see in free agency or I
could be completely wrong and everybody stays put, But you're not.
I'm so interested, especially with the announcements of Unrivaled.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
A lot of new a lot of new faces are
going to be down in Miami.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Rubin elbows keep keying it up during free agency time,
so it's going to be so interesting. So I don't
even think that the blow it up is going to
come from like the higher ups. It's gonna come from
the players being like, Okay, well this situation was great,
it was cool. Now let me go try and do
it over here with these players and let me try
(21:30):
do it over here or bring those players to where
we're at.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
If if they were all not free agents, would I
blow up the team?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
No, I would not, because I want this group to win,
Like I think everybody really wanted them to win, a
lot of people wanted to feed to an MVP, A
lot of people wanted them to win the championship, and
neither happened.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
But here's the thing thing in sports, and this is
why I have been so anti blow it up. I'm
anti blow it up, and the NBA I'm antiabload of
in the w Obviously, don't continue with something that clearly
doesn't work. But I don't think what we're seeing with
the Lynks is it not working. I think we're seeing
a lot of bad luck. Love plays so much into
winning a championship. Not only that the MVP had fe
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not gotten hurt, not saying Asian didn't deserve her MVP award,
but Phee was clearly the favorite to win MVP, and
then she got hurt and we got to see what
the team could do without her. Had she not gotten hurt,
we would have never seen that. And who knows how
things were got down in Vegas. Who knows how that
would have shaked out. So she might have won the
MVP had she not gotten hurt.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
For this game, for you know what I'm saying, we
and even last year with them losing in the finals,
like there was so many things that happened in that
last game where people were just like, how did y'all
lose that game? And now the same thing is happening again.
You know you saw the emotion. I don't know if
you guys saw Kmax presser after the game, like she
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was like, oh the fact that you have to like
go speak to the media after moments like that is
like I hate that. But she went up there like
the champ that she is and answered all the questions.
It was very gracious, even though she was sobbing and
I was like, can y'all let the baby like get
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herself together before she comes up here, But you could
just see the emotion and she said that basically was
like what they have in that locker room is something
that you that is very rare in pro sports. So
in that aspect, like, no, I wouldn't blow up this team.
And when guys, when we say blow up, I know
that sounds very like aggressive and horrible and mean, but
like that's just like what you say, like you gotta
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blow it up and that just.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Doesn't happen in the WNBA often.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
And when I say blow it up as opposed to
make some moves. Make some moves are what you were
talking about earlier, moving some role players around, putting pieces
around your core to make them better. By blow it up,
we mean move something bad.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
They they had DT tash BG was like their big three,
and now they have at Ka and Satu like flip
flopped superstars for superstars.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Like I will also note that injuries and I guess
officiating to a certain degree, but I'm not a fan
of blaming the officiating in any sport ever and any
win loss ever. But another piece of the pie, as
far as talking about luck going into this year's finals,
the New York Liberty. Had we had a healthy Stewie
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all season long, had they been able to stay healthy
this season, that team also would have shook out very differently.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah, I mean the Liberty, their luck was just terrible.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I don't even have I don't have the number on it,
but like, I don't even know how many games.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
They had a fully healthy roster. Least they're starting five
like or top to bottom. They always had somebody out.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Kenny Burke was out for a while, Izzy Harrison was
out for a while, JJ was out.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Like they always were dealing with something.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
So they just never were able to get any type
of continuity. And you know that happened sometimes. And again
I mean they fired their head coach. We did say
that New York was going to have some decisions to
make after the season, and that was the first one
they made, which shocked a lot of people. But again,
if something ain't working, which.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Is crazy because they just want a championship.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
But you know, things like that happen, and when you
have you know, a lot of when you have somewhat
disappointing season, changes have to be made and you can't always.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Blame the player.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Someone got to take the blame, unfortunately, And people have
been really vocal about the firing of the head coaches
of the WNBA.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Y'all would hate the NBA. Y'all would hate to be
fans of the NBA.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
They fired coaches fresh off with like fresh off championship
mid season. Like, I don't see very many mid season
firings in the w either, but I was on a
team where that happened in LA my first year in LA.
Fired Derek Fisher middle of the season, and dealing with
that is crazy, Like there's so many emotions that you
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have to process when your coach gets fired in the
middle of the year and then you just have to
like keep playing.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
And I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I don't, like, I'm not a fan of firing mid season,
but sometimes I guess, you know, change has to be
made now. So shout out to the Phoenix Mercury making
it to the WNBA finals. Another fun fact, uh, this
will be the first final since twenty twenty one that
hasn't had the participant from the previous season.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yay.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Fun fact. Interesting fun fact.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Also another fun fact, there's not a single person on
this roster who was on the roster in twenty twenty one,
either that one.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Or the coach.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
So what Phoenix said, hard pivot.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
That's exactly what they did, and they pivoted right to
the WBA finals. So I'm excited, and we still don't
know who their opponent will be. So let's get into
this next series between the Aces and the Fever, because it.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Has been.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
I want to I would say spicy, but I think
that's an understatement.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
It's been one.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Hundred blood bet maybe I have so much about you
got it on this side of girl. Okay, y'all, the
war is over yet. The Fever and the Aces play
tonight to decide who is going to the NBAWNBA Finals.
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And in Game four, the Fever one ninety to eighty
three to four again five off of a Kelsey Mitchell,
Kelsey Mitchell dagger and one and her twenty five points.
That girl, I don't understand she retired.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
No, No, it's like never ending energy and speed.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
But really, what I want to get into Eliah Boston
with twenty four, and she drew foul trouble on multiple
Vegas starters. Asia Wilson was still dominant with thirty one,
but there was a major free throw controversy that got
everybody talking. There was a bunch of controversies that got
everybody talking. Between a Leah Boston rage baiting Asia Wilson
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and the thirty four fever three free throw attempts to
the Aces eleven free throws, Liahbolson alone took thirteen free throws,
which is more than Vegas as an entire team.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
That's crazy, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I Wilson called the discrepancy and fouls interesting.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, she's kind of correct, because first of all, I
think the refs are like fed up, that's what it's giving.
And I need the refs to all have a little
ref Kumbaya meeting at the end of the year, and
they need to like watch tape and film because see,
I don't know, I'm just gonna say it, the refereeing
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the season was has been absolutely atrocious. Like inconsistent is
the word that a lot of people would use to
describe it, and I think that's a very good word
to use. It's just been very all over the place.
And yeah, like certain players do get special whistles, like
that is a thing, that's very much a thing, and
they earn it and the way that they.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Play warrants that.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
But the game has gotten to a point where it's
like hard to watch at times with the physicality of it.
Like Gino Oriama, actually because my parents sent me this article,
Gino said that the officiating has been really bad in
the WNBA for like a few years. His direct quote is,
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people can't get open, people can't cut. The ball handler
is getting whacked every time they move. Listen, you always
expect your best player.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
To have a rough time. I've been through that and
I've claimed I've complained about it a lot. I don't
blame the officials.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
I don't think it's actually it's the people actually officiating
the games. I think it's what's either in the rule
book or what's accepted as this is a style of
play that we want, because if they didn't want that
style of play, they wouldn't allow it. Like I don't
know why all of a sudden, like this over physical,
crazy basketball has become acceptable in the w like it
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was cool like last year at the beginning when people
were like, I mean, it wasn't cool last year because
we know what the narrative last year was about the
physicality of the league. But I thought it also was
a good thing to see, like how physical the w
really is and how it's just such a major leap
from college to pros.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
But I think it's like.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Gotten a little bit out of hand, and I think
that's what's led to the injuries. I think that's what's
led to the crazy fatigue amongst players. I mean, on
top of playing forty four games plus the playoffs. I
think that it's they need to reel it in and
it's too late to do it now obviously, But.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Like I will say, Eliah Boston, super super super talented.
I have spoken about her one million time, super positively
big fan of hers, very talented player, love her down
this pushing into other people and getting other people to
push into her. I don't know if I'm exaggerating. All
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I know is what I saw when I was there,
and what I have seen throughout the season and throughout
the playoffs, and in the.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Most man almost kind of pushing in other people, almost
kind of ebo on the face by her in our game,
I hit the matrix on her. I said, oh no, no,
I know what you'd be doing. I saw on it,
I saw it of it. She got an offensive foul,
but she didn't even hit me. But I was like
if she, if I didn't move, she would have elbowed
me right in my face. Like I literally was like,
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I was gonna give her the layup. I'm not even
gonna lie to y'all like I'm not one of those
people that's gonna take one for the team like that.
I'm sorry, an elbow to the face when I'm already
like under manned, like I obviously wasn't able to get
around her to front her. Okay, whatever, So now I'm
gonna use my speed to like maneuver, which thank god,
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because I probably would have had a broken ups.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
So that is It is frustrating as a fan. I
can only imagine how frustrating it as a player. However,
it is to her benefit to continue to do because
it's working and it's being allowed. It's not on her
to stop getting That's why I said all those really
nice things about her before I brought it up. It
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is very frustrating to watch, and it's not fair because
they aren't allowing it from everybody. But that pushing another people,
elbow wing, getting other people to push into you, that
bulldozing through that that has to stop, and that is
up to the refs to stop it. If I were hurt,
I would take it up a notch because I know
it's right.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I mean, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
The refs do have complete control over how much physicality
is allowed in a game. But if a team comes
out like just physically like, you can't call it. You're
not gonna be able to call every single file because
then the game won't get played. So it is in
the team's benefit to come out on level one thousand
and dial it down, versus having the other team come
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at you at level one thousand and you don't know
what to do and now you're fouling.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Now you're on your heels.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Now you're reactionary to everything, which is basically what happened
in the last game. Is the Aces start to be
just reacting to everything. And when you get into that
mode against a team that has been allowed to play
at a super physical level pretty much all season, it's
gonna be very hard for you to win. I think
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that the Aces are gonna win tonight in Vegas. But
the X factor for me, which I could be completely
wrong and she could not, she could still just not
play like she hasn't been, is Kia Stokes thrower in there.
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She has been a staple on this Aces team for years.
She's not gonna she's not gonna give you a lot
of points, but she's gonna rebound, she's gonna defend, she's
going to set great screens. Like Asia and Alyssa need
some time to breathe because they both have.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Their hands full with the Leah Boston and Natasha Howard.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Honestly, Natasha Howard is not an easy person in the
guard by any means either, but she's definitely way less
physical than a Leah Boston. I think that if they
utilize just Kia Stokes's size and her IQ, that could
be very helpful for Asia and Alyssa in the post.
But she hasn't really been seeing a lot of court
time as of late.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
So.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I don't know if that's going to be the thing.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
But if I was the coach, I would throw Kia
Stokes in there just to see what that looks like.
As far as stopping Aliah Boston, especially after the game
she had last night. Also Kirsten Bell, Jewel Lloyd, and
Dana Evans. Between the three of them, they both they
have to have at least fifteen points between the three
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of them. However that comes that's that is also a
reason why that they're going to win this basketball game
because they have not been producing like we think that
they should be, especially Jule. But again, she's in a
completely different role and again her team is almost the finals,
so she is definitely take in a step back from
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how we're used to seeing her play for the greater
good of the team, which is something that I personally
have liked seeing from a superstar like Jewel because it
is hard to find a role in a place in
this league, and the fact that she's been able to
do so and helping this team get to the finals
coming coming off of the bench is very admirable.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
She led the league in.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Scoring to just two years ago, if you guys didn't
know that, literally number one in scoring two years ago,
and now she's averaging I think ten or eleven points
coming up the bench for the Aces, but one game away.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
From the WNBA Finals. So those are my X factors.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I don't have an X factor for Indiana because like
their whole team is an X factor because the fact
that they are also one game away from the WNBA
Finals is absolutely insane.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Like with Caitlin Clark setting.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Up with half of their team sitting on the bench,
Imagine the Indiana Fever, not even not even y'ave all
thought it.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Imagine the Indiana Fever go to the WBA fin us say,
Kayla Clark isn't play.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Do you know how tight the powers that be? You're
gonna blow?
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Like I imagine that.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
And if you told anybody at the beginning of the
season that the Fever would get to the WBA Finals
without Kaitlin Clark, a lot of people would be like,
there's no way, there's no way.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Not even just Kaitlin, like we said, without the entire game.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
So yeah, the entire team.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
So, like we said last week, like that bench group
and their energy, yes, like should.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
They related a little bit, maybe maybe a tad, but.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
It's been the reason why they've you know, been going,
like we said, like Kelsey, and they don't really say
much on the court. The bench really, I think that's
why the bench is always on level one thousand because
they don't.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
They're super st.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
No, we said a Leah doesn't say much, and ever
since we said that, she'd been saying a lot.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
She was saying, Yeah, she's sneaky with it.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
She is sneaky with it. And again Shamas are, so
I don't be. I don't I stay out of post
player's business, you know, say I stay on the perimeter
because it's dangerous down there, as we've been seeing firsthand.
I do have a fun stat from the fever. So
we obviously know that Kelsey Mitchell is leading the charge.
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She's been playing out of her mind. I'm not sure
how many points she's averaging in the playoffs right now,
I'm pretty sure she's leading and.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Scoring in the playoffs. Let me check real quick. She
got yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Her or Asia right now?
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Asia?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, Asia is averaging twenty five and Kelsey's averaging twenty three.
So Kelsey is second and postseason scoring at twenty three
points per game on her team. She has taken eighty
three shots. The next highest person that has taken shots
is a Leiah Boston with forty nine, and then the
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next person after that is thirty one Odyssey Sims. So
when we say we have two players right now quite
literally carrying their teams on their backs, and Asia Wilson
and Kelsey Mitchell, and the fact that they are completely
opposite positions is ironic because they're rarely going to guard
each other or ever be matched up against each other.
But that's what makes the series so much fun because
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it is about their teammates, you know, stepping up and
helping them win. I like I said, I think Vegas got it.
It's a very hard gym to win in, even though
Indiana did go in there in Game one and felt
to ask them.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
But this is Game five, it's different.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I will say the Fever now have four upset wins
this postseason, which is the most since the twenty twenty
one Chicago Skuy. The winner Game five is going to
the WBA Finals. I y'all know what I want to happen.
So I will be watching tonight and I will be
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clutching my pearls and.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
I kind of really want this for Kelsey Mitchell because
you know, this is the Kelsey Mitchell fan club over here.
But selfishly, I would love a Phoenix Vegas Finals because
I could probably go to one of those games from
LA and this.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Is already a win, like I feel like I felt
like before the Dream Series, this season was already a
win for Kelsey Mitchell.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
It's all right, everything is. You don't need no more Kelsey.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah you did it, Girl, you did it, Joe, you
did it. No, she would be I mean, she's already
stamped in the Fever organization. But if she brings this
team to the finals, like she will be super duper
stamped like Tamika Catching's type, stamped like up.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
There, like Tamika Ketchings.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Is if y'all don't know, and a lot we got
a lot of new w fans in the chat Tamika
Catchings just look her up.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Please, who the hell Tamika Catchings is?
Speaker 2 (41:12):
And the way that this organization has Finally, I don't
think they ever undervalued Kelsey Mitchell. But even in her
media availability one day, she said, I finally have a
coach that pours into me, believes in me, gives me confidence.
And she's been in the league for eight years and
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that's the first time she's ever said anything like that.
So the fact that Steph White, who is coaching her
ass off, by the way, shout out to Steph White.
The way she's poured into Kelsey Mitchell. This season has
been really amazing because I've always said Kelsey Mitchell has
been super underrated her entire career, even though she's been
putting up these numbers since year one, Day one. The
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fact that she's getting all her flowers right now, whether
they win tonight or lose tonight, this season has been
absolutely incredible for Kelsey Mitchell. And God willing our CBA
goes through, Kelsey Mitchell will be getting paid.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Honey. Hey.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
I will also say, from a fan perspective, shout out
to the Fever just a general y'all know, if you
see me on social media, I give y'all hard time,
but I will say this about the NBA to fever.
It is really nice to see with a player like
Caitlyn Clark. That's kind of it's a hard role to
play with playing with a player like that, and kind
of just you're kind of supporting cast to the general public,
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you know what I mean, if just to the general
public and sometimes to your coaches or to other people
supporting cast, but for to have a player like that,
one of the most famous people on Earth, on the
bench and get to show off and be like, yo,
check this out and like have that moment like put
the whole world on notice. Maybe people turn on the
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game because they want to see Kitlin Clark or they
want to see the Fever or Sophie Cunningham or something
like that, and then they get to see these players
show out and do their thing. And not only that,
but when it's reducing all of these upsets.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
I mean they won the Commissioners Cup.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
I mean I think that you know, remember at the
beginning of the season when everyone was up in arms
about them having all all of the nationally televised games
and why aren't they why are they putting them on
TV every time? Like look at what they're doing. Like,
I don't know how many teams would have been able
to have the attention they had from the beginning, the
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drama they had at the beginning, the injuries that they've
had all season long, and continue to keep showing up
and winning and competing and staying very humble throughout the
entire thing. That's one of my favorite things about Kelsey Mitchell,
how humble she is, how grateful she is, and how
much she just really loves the game. There's not a
better player in the League than to have this moment
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than Kelsey Mitchell in my opinion, like whole world is
watching her. She's on TV every night, Like, I just
love this so much for her, and I feel like
her pairing with Kaylyn Clark last season was dynamic post
All Star.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Which we all knew was gonna happen. It was gonna
take some time for them to jail.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
But even that, the season that they had last year,
I think that like invigorated Kelsey for this season. You know,
they came back like at a different level, both of them.
Before Kaitlyn got hurt. I mean, I know she was shooting.
Her shooting wasn't that great, but the way she was
facilitating and finding her teammates and Eliah start the season
off really great. Kelsey started to see it off really great,
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Like they were rolling for the most part. But Sophie
Cuneham was playing well, Lexi Hall was playing well, and
that's because they have an elite point guard in Kaylen Clark.
So I love this for Kelsey Mitchell. So if they
do happen to win, I'm not even gonna be mad
at that because I want Kelsey Mitchell to get all
of the things. But We'll see what happens tonight in
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game five in Vegas. I'm excited. I will be tuned in.
I don't even know what time the game is at.
What time is the game It's at nine thirty. Well, yeah,
I'm very, very excited about this game five.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Well before before we go, let's get into this links
Mercury officiating, suspension finds drama. Let's see.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
First of all, I've never seen a coach almost swing
on a rec before, like.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Fing awful is what she said, fing malpractice practice.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
I mean, I love when coaches go hard for their players,
especially in a play like that at the very end
of the game that ultimately led to the Mercury winning
game three feet hurting her ankle. Like it was like
just emotions were very high in that moment, obviously, but
the screaming, uh, the almost punching, the cursing out the refs,
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I mean, cursing out the fans, media fans, it was
like it just seemed like Kathy was just like in
her little office like just boo boop, Like it was
like levels and then suspension was at the top, and
Cheryl like just checked all the damn boxes. We already
we I mean, we touched on the officiating earlier in
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the show, like it's just been just madly inconsistent, wildly inconsistent.
And I hope that for next season they have a
really really, really really really intensive session together because the
points of ephansis points of emphasis that they showed us
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at the beginning of the season. We have to sit
down with the ref and watch a whole video and
have we have questions and we ask questions about it,
like why do we even have these sessions when what
y'all tell us is not what happens during the season,
like not even remotely.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
But I also want to know the what got me
is I think it's really unfair. I realized she did
go she did go crazy. Play dwn's advocate. She went nuts.
Suspending the coach in a game, playing without your coach
and your star player is really difficult, and especially in
a decisive game. I thought that was a bit much.
(47:34):
But on top of that, to find her what fifteen
thousand dollars, and on top of that, to find the
people that came out and.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
Support of like what are we doing you and why
are you're thinking about it?
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Why are refs exempt from any type of criticism from
players and coaches.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
I've actually never I've never.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Truly wondered that before, Like, why do players and coaches
get fined for talking about the officiating?
Speaker 3 (48:05):
If it's bad, it's bad. If it's good, it's like,
but you know what's crazy?
Speaker 1 (48:10):
You find that? I want to know because obviously there's
levels to finding people. But how does Caitlin Clark get
find two hundred dollars for saying refs can't stop us?
But you find a coach fifteen crazy for complaining about officiating,
and then on top of that, you find coaches just
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for sticking up for her or agree with her one
thousand dollars?
Speaker 2 (48:34):
How does it?
Speaker 1 (48:35):
How do you go from two hundred dollars to one
thousand for thou like? That doesn't make it easy?
Speaker 3 (48:39):
And then it's like it's so funny. So like when
you have a challenge, right, so you have the challenges.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
And if a challenge gets accepted, that means that the
ref was wrong in real time and we clocked it
and you had to correct it. They're like I always wondered,
I'm like, do they get like a ding on their
ref grading reports if they have X amount of challenges
or x amount of calls or overturned. Like we as players,
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we like really don't know much about the refs, Like
we know them personally because we see them all the time,
but like I don't know like the nuances and in
depth stuff when it comes to refereeing, like if they
have like a secret society, how like they get evaluated?
What happens if they, you know, get too many complaints
(49:32):
from coaches?
Speaker 3 (49:33):
Like I've always I always have wondered, like what, First.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Of all, I would never you could pay me, I
would never be a referee a day, am my freaking life?
Speaker 3 (49:42):
No manyway.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
But I'm like, I've never really took a deep dive
into what like the behind the scenes is for referees.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
My conspiracy and the thing that comes to the top
of my head. Again, this is me Mariah Rose, who
doesn't play in the WBA. Can't be fin I'm nothing,
I say, not Lexi Brown speaking. I truly believe some
people have let me think how I want to say.
Some people have a special whistle for good reason and
important reason. I think that there is a lot of this.
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If you're watching on visual, if you're listening, you probably
can guess what gesture I just do with my hand
a lot of that that goes into professional sports, and
I think that the only way that any of that
can be controlled into a way that goes into certain
people's favor is through officiating. And so when you critique
it and criticize it, the people playing in the league
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and the people who actually know what's going on, when
you could get criticize it, you're kind of messing up
that side of the system. And so therefore you're not
supposed to do that and you need to fall in line.
So that's my theory. But what do I know of
associating because it doesn' wouldn't make any sense otherwise. Why
couldn't you Why couldn't you speak of the officiating? Why
don't they get fined for what they do? Why don't
(50:56):
they get things? Because maybe it's not entirely the reference fault, right.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
And if they do get fined or things like, we
don't know about it. But like every time we do something,
get a tech, get a fine, it's like a news article,
story or something.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Right, But if you make me mad and I say
something to you in the moment in the game, you
could literally kick me out as a wrath.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
Yeah, right, That's why I could be a ref. You say,
so you say something crazy to me one time, boom
tech watch them out me though, like I've I don't
know if y'all remember, I got my first technical foul
in my career this year because I kicked Alyssa Thomas.
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But I only kicked her because she was she was
about to fall on my leg. So I kicked her
because I was like, you're gonna break my leg. You're big,
I'm little. And now that's what that was my only
that's been my only tech ever in eight years.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
I was like, they team me up. I sayd y'all
know me. I leave y'all alone.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
There's a reason. And I needed to play volleyball, a
sport with there there's a net in between me and
the other team because I want nobody touching me. I
would be Draymond greenk.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
Yeah, why are they going into the paint like that?
It's w w E down there? No thank you, no
thank you?
Speaker 1 (52:17):
And I can only imagine basketball. I'm five seven. I
will be like, oh no.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Since we're on the topic of like fouling and officiating,
like I remember, all season long, I think we shot
like the lowest number of free throws per game in
the entire league, and I think it's it's it's it's
hard to argue sometimes because I will say, like my teammates, yes,
like layups are miss shots are missed overall, Like we
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have like some very elite finishers on our team and
a lot of strong players. Like my teammates were like
living in the weight room, like we did plies all
the time, like people like really worked on their box
and their core strength or whatever. So when you go
into the lane and you just finish, you don't always
get that foul call because you just go finish strong.
(53:09):
And I feel like there has to be some type
of conversation about because the athleticism is improving, like Dom
y'all dom freaking con dunk, Like what are they going
to do when Dom catches the alley oop one day
and someone like jumps with her, Like they're going to
have to figure out how to officiate that in the
women's game at some point. The growing athleticism, because I
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was watching it all season long, like Gabby is a
great athlete, Neka Sky like they don't and they don't
fall a lot also, and sometimes you get a foul
call simply because you fall, and sometimes refs wait till
you fall to call the to call the foul. So
for someone like me, like even when I go to
the basket, like I don't fall a lot either, and
(53:52):
I consider myself a decent finisher at the room.
Speaker 3 (53:55):
I don't like to get hit.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
That people know that about me, Like I will finesse
in Fina, go my way into the lane and try
and not get hit as often as I can. But
then when you are able to do that at such
a high level, sometimes you don't get the benefit of
the foul cause.
Speaker 3 (54:09):
So I hope that you.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
Know, with the growing athleticism and the growing skill set
of a lot of these guards, the refs look at
a lot of game tape and see, you know, what
type of officiating that they need to do moving forward.
Because I think that as the game is, the game
is evolving, players are evolving, the coaching is evolving, the
officiating needs to evolve as well.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
So that's all I have to say about the referee.
I hope I don't get fined. I can't get fined
right now, and.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
If I do, I'm sure I'm gonna invoice the ieart.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
Let's say y'all, we will see you next week, but
when you hear us, it will be after the conclusion
of the Aces Fever game, and you will know who's
going to be in the w A Finals. LEXI, you pick.
Speaker 3 (55:02):
The Aces, I do, I do, I do.
Speaker 1 (55:07):
Listen, I I am gonna say that the Fever gonna
win an only because this last week, no team that
I have wanted to win anything has won anything. Georgia lost,
the Ravens loss, the Cowboys tied, which.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
Is like.
Speaker 3 (55:23):
Bad luck on the Fever.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
So I'm just gonna see gonna win because that's how
my week is very crazy.
Speaker 3 (55:31):
That's crazy. See, that's that's spite for energy, Mariah. I
don't like that, but I'm rooting for the Aces.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
I want to see Asian Wilson in the championship again.
I feel like that would be entertaining.
Speaker 3 (55:45):
And at the end of the day, I just want
everyone to have fun.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
Right, And if I do get an opportunity to go
to a finals game, I'm sorry, y'all, No shade. I
have been to Indy one too many times in the
last couple of years. I went to I went to.
Speaker 3 (56:01):
We're going We're going to Vegas or Phoenix. That's where
we're going to.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
Please, We're going because yeah, thanks, I'm not going back
to you. Well, thank you for listening to this episode
of Full Circle. Lexi say bye to the people.
Speaker 3 (56:18):
We'll see y'all next week.
Speaker 1 (56:21):
Bye. Thanks for listening to Full Circle. We'll be back
next week with more basketball for the Girls, by the girls.
We want to hear from you. Leave us a review
on Apple Podcasts and tell us what you want us
to talk about. Full Circle is hosted by Lexi Brown
and Maria Rose. Our executive producer is Jesse Katz. Our
supervising producer is Grace Fused. Our producer is Zoe Danklab.
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