March 5, 2025 • 57 mins
On this episode of Full Circle, Lexie Brown and Mariah Rose catch up after the conclusion of AU and Lexie’s rowdy final night in Nashville. Since you don’t need to buy tomatoes to send hate anymore, Lexie and Mariah want to encourage everyone to find some friends to share your grievances with and stay out of people’s comment sections. In the meantime, Lexie and Mariah still love Drake, and Lexie gets a taste of misplaced and unsolicited hate. Tune in next week to hear more basketball by the girls, for the girls.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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What's good, y'all, Welcome back to another episode of Full
Circle High Lexi, Hey, girl, we have a lot to
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talk about today.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We need a thought we do we really do well.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I believe AU has concluded and you gave it the
goodbye that it deserves.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Oh yeah, we had a time last night. Girl. I
wish you were still here. You came the wrong weekend,
low key, I know.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I love Nashville.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
It was fun.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Even though we were like in our little au bubble,
we made it poppin. It was really fun.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Last night.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
We had our last games. I finished in seventh place.
Everybody top ten.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Congratulations Lexi.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
So that bonus check is going to hit soon. Period.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
We had a wrap party last night, and I just
want to have a conversation real quick about how athletes party.
Oh my god, it's like, and you went to Georgia,
so you are around you know the athlete party culture.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
When I first learned how to party, when I got
to college shocked. I was shocked. I didn't even understand.
And i'mn't even talking about like boy athletes because I'd
be one of them, like the plague, but girl athletes
like that.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Y'all get down, We get down. It gets to it.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
But it's because y'all are very disciplined and you have
like such a strict schedule and it doesn't really matter
what day of the week it is, because you guys
could have work all weekend and then not even get
your time to have a little drinking in. So when
it's a Monday night.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
It's like an inside joke amongst all, like even college athletes,
it's like, why are we going this hard? Like is
there something that we need to talk about? Like do
we need to go to therapy? Are we stressed?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Why?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I mean, probably athletes, we.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Have one day of freedom and you decide to just
go crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It's actually insane, but you're right.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
It's just you have so much discipline ninety nine point
nine percent of the time, and you have one opportunity
a week, sometimes a month sometimes to like just not
care about anything.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
It's on top of that, I would love to talk
to you about the fact that my sister is a
division one volleyball player, and like she's still very young,
but her whole life has been consumed with volleyball. When
she had prom she had volleyball practice at aight am
the next day.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Me too, turns that way.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, So it's like, of course, when you get older
and you're of age to drink and you're having fun
with your friends and you're in Nashville and you're having
good time and you've been in AU season all of
these weeks, of course you're going to want to have fun.
Your whole life has been dedicated to being disciplined for
your sport.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Literally, but I'm like, why do we have to like go?
So it's crazy, Like I'm thirty now, Like if y'all,
if y'all are watching this right now, y'all can see
it all over my face that last night was a
long night, but it was so much fun.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I really can't.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Okay, you look like you're going, oh thanks, it's happiness,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I think that that's a myth about or at least
with our generation, it is about, Oh, you turn thirty,
like you're gonna have to be in the house and
be locked up and married with seven kids. And I
feel like thirty. They is like the new twenty thirty, right,
because I'd be like, I'm sixteen and I'm twenty four.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Girl, I feel twenty four is crazy. Right.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
First of all, can we talk about Okay, I was
Maria when Mariah was in Nashville and we went out
to dinner after our live show, which was amazing. By
the way, My best friend Joy who lives in Nashville,
she's thirty one. She had no idea you were twenty four, right,
So we went to dinner. All right, She's, Oh my god,
I love Mariah. She's so intelligent. She really has Like.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
How old is she?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I'm like, Mariah is just a baby. And we were
just like, what were we doing at twenty four?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Nothing?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I mean I was in the WNBA at twenty four,
but I was still very much a baby.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Like what was I doing.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
At twenty four? Oh yeah, I was just a professional
basketball But it was like.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
It's so crazy because even yesterday I was thinking about,
like in the Grand Scheme of life, like even though
we have the complaints of how people talk about us,
which we're going to get into next, we play basketball.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
We play a sport for a living, Like it's so fun.
Like that's why. Yeah, let's actually get into it right now.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Let's just talk about it at the end of the day,
Like what people say to us about us, da da
da da.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I play a game.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I play a sport as my job that I love,
so like there has to be we got to meet
in the middle as media, fans athletes, like we all
have to meet in the middle of this is a sports,
this is a game.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
It's fun.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
And I don't know at what point all of that
got lost amongst everybody, Like I feel like we lost
a plot of what's sporting.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Let me introduce the topic just in case our listeners
don't know what we're talking about. So basically, Anthony Edwards
came out and said that he didn't want to be
the face of the NBA, I believe, right after All
Star weekend, and obviously everybody's been kind of trying to
put this new face on the NBA of the NBA
title onto him, and he basically came out and said
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he doesn't want it. That's what Winby's for. I'm good.
And then obviously a lot of people had stuff to
say about that, and then Lebron James gave his take
on it. And said, Okay, why would anyone want to
be the face of our league when the people who
cover our league and talk about our league are shitting.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
On it all the time.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Thus started a whole debate over the conversations rounding athletes,
the coverage surrounding athletes. Athletes like they're being unfairly covered media,
certain media have all different types of opinions on it,
which we'll get into in a second. But Steven Asmath
will just go on by name, basically came back at Lebron,
essentially proving his point, saying, well, if we can't criticize you,
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what the hell can we talk about? And I don't
criticize you when you ruined the dunk contest and blah
blah blah blah. Thus LEXI enter your take.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
It's just like and we say all the time on
Gils Gil even though people are like Gil and we
talk a lot of nonsense, We make a lot of jokes.
If you really peel back all the layers, we all
are athletes, professional athlete, college athletes. At the core, Gil
always says, don't tell me why you don't like that player,
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tell me why you love this player.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I just it's why is that so hard for people
to do.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
You do not.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I mean it's even within life.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
You don't have to tear down so somebody else to
uplift this person. Just talk about how much you love
this person and all the things amazing things that they do,
without even bringing in all these other people and tearing
them down, because you need to like catapult your fave.
Like I just don't, like I'm.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Like looking back.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
First of all, I don't know why now Lebron decided
to say that because and I'm glad he did, but
like this has been a problem with the coverage of sports,
I think for a while now, where like people just
nitpick at like weird things, like someone could be like, oh,
Luca had a triple double, but we're going to talk
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about like the six turnovers he had, or like the
defense he didn't play. He had a triple double and
they won. Why why do we have to nitpick anything
in that moment? Like I'm all for constructive criticism, and
I said that to you on Twitter. There is a
very fine line between personal attacks and constructive criticism, and
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the media is like tiptoeing that line, like we saw
it with Lebron and Bronnie Why does Lebron's son have
anything to do with the twenty plus years Lebron has
been in the league, Like that has nothing to do
with anything?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Okay, I do have a response to that. What Bronni
has to do with Lebron's twenty plus year career is
the fact that Bronni would not be in the NBA
if it weren't for that twenty plus years of career.
So that's that's where the relevance comes in. I do
think that the people cross the line though.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah, I understand that for Bronni, Okay, you got to
prove yourself what he's doing, and he's doing it very gracefully.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
But for Broun, what is that? Like?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
We know it And I don't like to throw people's
business out, but we know what Michael Jordan's Sun was
doing a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
What was he doing, Maric? She made a video about it,
right right? Was rest of her?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
D you why exactly? I think that, like you said,
there is a fine line between constructive criticism and personal attacks.
I also think that what people are ignoring because it
seems like everybody is kind of complaining about everything right now.
The media is complaining about the league. The league is
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complaining about the media, the fans are complaining about both.
It's confusing. But I think what coming from a sort
of media perspective because I'm on social media, but I
feel like my job is it necessarily to please the
athletes I'm talking about as much it is as it
is to please my audience. And one thing I mentioned
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when I was talking about this on Twitter, also, I
don't agree with Steven A. I want to like get
that out because people got confused on Twitter. I disagree.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I think it was way too much with.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, I think he does way too much when it
comes to covering athletes and black athletes in particular, and
he knows that. Like I don't care. But I think
for me at least, there is a thirst and a
hunger for people to hear about those negative things that
media say. And I think it's unfair for media that
what they say constantly gets clipped into the very negative
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part of what they say. For example that Lebron quote
where he says the media is constantly shitting on our game.
He also went on to say he understands that it's
a responsibility about being a part of the league whatever,
but nobody heard that part because they just flip it
into the entire clip. But that rage make comes from
the fact that that's what fans want to see. I
don't care what the fans say, Oh, we want to
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hear you guys, like we want analysis over storylines and
blah blah blah blah. As somebody in social media who
studies my analytics, No they don't. They want to hear
more about why the NBA's ratings are low and why
Joel Embiid isn't playing, and they want to hear that
stuff more than they want to hear about the positive stuff. Now,
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where the media has a duty is we do draw
the line for what they're hearing, and so there needs
to be more of a balance. I don't think that
athletes should be void of all criticism at all, actually,
But at the same time, like you said, if you're
going to talk about Lebron's quote about the media shitting
on players for an hour and a half on first take,
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you probably should mention the fact that Steph Curry dropped
the six points to night exactly. Like that should come
up at the top of the show, not at the
very end, because you know, like fans are thirsting to
hear that spicy who's going to be the face? Both
people love those conversations and I love to have them
in real life. Yeah, but if you want the fans
to direct more of their attention to what's actually happening
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on the court, then you need to mention that at
the very beginning and mention that more and that other
stuff needs to be a smaller percentage.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Transitioning this to like the w what the coverage of
our league is going to look like this summer, because
I feel like the last year, the way the women's
coverage has shifted and changed changed, and last summer, like
we said, it was very poorly covered. It was they
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didn't do the league the justice it deserved as far
as the talent, the storylines, everything.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
They kind of hyper focused.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
On one thing and just let it go whatever it
had to go. Now that the NBA players have mentioned
the unfairness quote unquote of the media coverage, I wonder
how that's going to affect how they cover the w
Because we say, I say it all, I've said it
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for years. The coverage of the WNBA is subpar at best,
I think, and I think when they do decide to
put some time and energy into it with Drea Cheney,
n L the Big Three, it's amazing, but that's like
few and far between, like they have so many other
things that they're covering, and WNBA, I feel like, has
always been like back like, oh oh there's a w
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A game today, Okay goo, y'all three go turn turns
up and be up for a few days and then
come back and cover everything else. So I'm very interested
to see if this sentiment carries over because again with women,
you know, people feel like they got a tiptoe, like, no,
we still want fair coverage, we want analysis, we want
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constructive criticism. But I hope that they don't because I
just feel like when it comes to women's sports, it's
like it's all or nothing. So it's like now you've
heard what the guys have to say, so now when
it comes to the women, there's like, okay, well athlete,
like we're just not going to say anything about them.
And I hope that that doesn't happen because this season
of the w I feel like it's going to be
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the most fun, the most interesting. The storylines are crazy,
like we might have to be the narrative starters Mariah
for the summer.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Well, I feel like part of that problem comes from
the people in power that we're not seeing. I feel
like a lot of the blame whenever we have this
conversation about athletes and the media of how the w
is being covered, the lack thereof coverage when it comes
to WNBA comes from the people in suits at ESPN, ABC,
the networks that we're not seeing. And so everybody wants
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to blame stephen A. Smith or this person or that person,
but these are the big fish. Like part of the problem,
I think is the fact that the number one voice
we're hearing about sports on every network for every sport
probably shouldn't be steven A. And this is coming from
somebody who is I've never played any of the sports
that I'd be talking about. I mean I played them,
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but like on a very teeny tiny level. I'm not
a pro, okay, And I'm very aware that if I'm
having a certain level of conversation, if a certain level
of analysis is happening, obviously I need to have somebody
next to me that knows a little bit more than
I do. It's just common sense, and I think steven
A does a good job of that, but at the
same time, it's like, who are we promoting as the
premier voices for each sport? Right when it comes to WNBA,
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you men like Cheney, l Andrea. There's so many great
voices that I think it's up to those people at
the top of the totem pool to promote them more
and to make sure that we're constantly seeing ads of them,
that we're seeing their face as much as we're seeing
faces like Steven A. Smith, because that's why he gets
every when everybody's oh, the media, the media does this.
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The media does that well. I watch a lot of
basketball coverage where even like a Brian Windhorse he's not
a professional basketball player, is very positive and Andrea is
very positive. El duncan Is I think does a very
good job of towing the line of entertainment, analysis and
storylines like she does all of that. She makes me laugh.
She'll make fun of you if you need to be
made fun of, but she also can be very serious
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and analytical when need be so, and I think that
they need to put her on more stuff. And Chaney
also like, obviously she's on NBA's Today and stuff, but
push her the same way you're pushing all of these
other people, and then maybe everybody won't be so angry
and the players will be so angry.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Why everybody met, I don't, like I'm trying to figure out,
like I understand, even with my personal journey in the league,
Like I see why some athletes are frustrated. I see
why they're like, why are y'all talking about me? Like,
y'all have no idea what I went through? Y'all have
no idea what goes on behind the scenes. And I
think also there's like an athlete code, Like I can't
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imagine if all of a sudden, the athlete code like
evaporated from everybody's brain because people are talking about this
is going on in this team, this is going on
in this camp. Da da da dah, And what's the
athlete code? You don't talk about what goes on for real,
that whatever is going on behind the scenes stays behind
the scenes, no matter how messed up it is, no
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matter if you are getting thrown under the bus. You
do not come out and put air out dirty laundry.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
That's not a thing. You don't do that.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
And I feel like a lot of people like they
understand it, but like no one has really come out
like and been like y'all, like people are like you
guys don't know, Like it's typical. You don't know what's
going on in the locker room. You don't know what's
going on in practice. No, you don't, and you're never
going to know unless you pull up and see it,
which you can't. But it's like so many storylines narratives
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get thrown out and athletes just have to like just
sit smile away because you got to be a professional
through it all because you have no idea what is
going on?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
At what level do you think former or current athletes
that are doing media now, at what level do you
think it's too much? Because a lot of people connected
with Lebron said to inside the NBA, and I saw
people coming at me about how Charles Barkley called No,
it wasn't been cments, it was Anthony Davis, how he
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calls him street clothes and how that's like disrespectful and
personal and step I personally think that's funny, But I'm
not Anthony David because funny are.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
You are always in street clothes?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I mean, okay, so but that's what I'm asking, Like
genuinely out of curiosity.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Where is the I feel like, And we don't see
it as much in the W because we don't have
as many games. You don't have like load management, Like
that's not a thing in the W yet. I hope
it never becomes a thing. But we also don't have
the schedule that those guys have. But it's like after
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I have been sidelined for the last two years and
you hear people constantly digging at your availability and stuff,
it's like one of those things like you don't really
understand it until it happens to you. Like you can
have empathy for people and you can feel like, oh,
like he's always hurt, like that must suck, but like
until it is you in that position, like you really
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don't know how annoying it is when people are always
just like you are never on the court, you're never this,
you're never that. But yeah, you look at these guys.
They're making tens and hundreds of millions of dollars, so
it's like you have you throw that into the mix
and people kind of lose the empathy, which understandably I
get it, but it's like being the bro, like that's
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for us that's the fun. Like we're at the fun part,
Like getting to the highest level, Like that's that was
the goal. Like we all had a little notebooks, we
had our essays in school.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
What do you want to be when you get older?
I want to be a professional basketball player.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Cool, we're there now the end, Like we're going to
keep working and grinding, but like this has been like
ten twenty thirty years of work for a lot of us,
and people are starting to make it like not fun
and make us feel like less than because we've made
it to the top. And it's just like expectation after
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expectation after expectation.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Which I trust me, I understand.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
And as fans, we owe fans performance, we owe them entertainment.
They're spending money on us, they support us, they love us,
all these things. But it's like at the end of
the day, like getting to the highest level, like that
was it, Like that was plan a for so many
of us, and we got there and now now.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
We're just like living life and having.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Fun because we've been we had to sacrifice so much early.
So it's like it's sad when I look at players
like Lebron, who's what forty, Like we talked about him
like he's seventy six, he's forty, like.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
He has so he has his entire life still to
enjoy the fruits of his labor.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
And everybody just constantly like, you're not this, You're not that,
You're not that. Da da da da, even with DT
with her retirement, Diana Tarossi, Cannie Parker, Maya the way
those three and Elena Deladon, which she hasn't officially retired yet,
but she kind of just rode off into the sunset.
They weren't around really when social media was like this,
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but as women like, we feel things deeper, like that's
just a thing. We don't make as much money, we can't,
we can't block things out as much as the men can.
I understand why they kind of were just like cool,
I'm done, bye, me too. And then you see Diana
she goes on the view Whoopy Goldberg pronounces her name
freaking incorrectly, like she called her that's Teresi, and of
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course Diana, in her true fashion, then called Whoopy whippy.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
She said, Whiopy.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Goldber, but I don't see oh yeah, whoop for whoopy
mispronounced Diana Rossi's name. Coming on the View to announce
her retirement, pronounces her name incorrectly, and.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
That's terrible for us long it's a funny joke, but
it's just like, no, it's not a joke, Like it's
not funny, like it's not not pronounced Diana Tarossi's name,
Like it's a very easy name. For as long as
she's been doing this, I know if with my little
broadcasting amount of career that before I do a panel anything,
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you ask how to pronounce people's names.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, even if you don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
But it's like that's just one on one yeah, And it.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Was like funny ha ha, like oh, just girls making misss. No,
you would never do that to a man, I'm sorry,
like you would never do your.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Professional and Diana because she would know the name of
a men's coach.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Like so for her, that's how she came into announce
officially announcing her retirement on the View, which is I
don't I don't know why she went on the View,
but hey, it's a.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Lot of eyes.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I don't leadership, but I know after that moment happened,
she's like, oh no, why did I come on here?
But Diana handled it in the Diana way mispronounced will
Be's name right back to her.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
But that's in no. I will say that a huge
part of this, and I want to say I think
that with athletes and with this like complaint of coverage
that they're experiencing, part of the issue is social media
and comments. I feel like if they were just reading
this stuff, you were just reading this stuff about yourselves
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in the newspaper, it would just it would be a
little bit less all consuming. But because of social media,
and because not only does steven A I keep using
him as an example, but he's the biggest person, right, yeah,
the biggest fish. Steven A comes out and says Kevin
Durant is the softest superstar or whatever, and that's just
the headline. On top of that, Kevin Durant is getting
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hundreds of comments and people also calling him the same thing.
But I think it's important for us all to realize
that this social media world is new to all of
us and it's unfortunate that everybody has something to say
about everything and it explodes everything into a much bigger
deal than it needs to be. Like, even if I
calls up Kevin Durant soft, I'm getting insulted Kevin Durant.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Is getting inside everybody.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
We're all getting insulted, and everybody's getting in.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Time bring somebody else they like. The right reaching that
people do online is actually.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Now I'm being stupid, Kevin Durant soft. Everybody's dumb. It's like,
the whole thing is ridiculous. I think that we all
just need to I've gotten a lot better with comments
and stuff, just based on the fact that everybody gets
it's happens to everybody. Nobody has anything to say about anything.
I was just before we started recording looking at all
of the Oscars looks.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
And.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
So nobody has anything I say about anything ever, nothing, nothing, nothing.
I'm telling you, I said, maybe the most perfect dress ever.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, I say it all the time.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
People don't get embarrassed in public enough. People don't feel
awkward in public enough. Like all people need on the
internet is one person to be like, I agree with you,
and they're like, my point is valid. So I'm going
to just keep reiterating this point because somebody out there,
they could be across the world, across the country, they
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couldn't abot It's not even a real person agrees with me.
So I'm just gonna keep hammering this point home.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Over and over and over.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
You know how people are like boo tomatoes like people
don't People don't feel that anymore in real life.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Part of the problem is back in the day, you
used to actually have to boose somebody to their face
and throw tomatoes, which it would take a lot for
people to get that angry about something to do that,
whereas now you can just send tomato emojis, comment boo
from your living realm, which it doesn't feel as right,
it doesn't feel as serious.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Send of me and I don't listen.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
I understand being critical of staff. I have stuff to
say about stuff all the time. I sent somebody's dressed
to my best friend earlier and I said, this is
absolutely horrible, and that's where he said, I'm not going
to comment on their Yeah, right, I'm.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Not gonna com chat. Do y'all have friends?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Every time I see a negative comment, I'm just like,
you don't have a group chat to send this to.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
You don't have a best de to send this to.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Never in my life have I looked here's a here's
a crazy example. And I'm so sorry to our listeners
for this example. My Instagram reels timeline is absolutely ridiculous.
It makes no sense. I don't know why I get
the videos. I get whatever go on my reels yesterday
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it is a page about a man with five wives. There, okay,
the whole page is about this man with his five wives,
and the entire page is dedicated to them addressing the
negative comments about their lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I don't have.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Any opinion on someone else's lifestyle. I don't care, but
I was every video was them responding to something negative
that somebody said under a post that they made regardless
of their lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Their posts were cringey as hell. I don't care if
you have one.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Wife, five wives, your content is weird, like, it's weird content.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Never in my brain did it say, let me type out,
I hate your content, it's weird.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I kind of internally had my.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Dialogue and I was like, I don't really like this,
and I moved on. Now I'm talking about it here again.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
We don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
I don't even remember the page. I don't remember these
people's names. I just remember seeing it, feeling how I felt,
and I just moved on. Why is it so hard
for everybody to do? I think we as public figures.
I think that again, people are insecure, so when somebody
comes at your lifestyle or something like that. And another
thing that is new to me from being online is
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people writing things about me that are wrong, like one
thing that I've wanted to show myself correct incorrect. This
happens to you all the time, people assuming things about
your health, and I'm sure this happens to other people
who get made fun of about their health all the time,
like a Ben Simmons or a Joel Embiid or you Like,
I'm sure that that is very annoying.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
But at the same time, I've learned that social media
has given people the unique ability to all be in
the public eye. Like I'm just a girl in my
room and I'm now in the public eye, and it's
like people are gonna have people are gonna have something
to say about me, regardless whether it's true or not.
And I have to have enough self control to know
that being able to do something cool like play basketball
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for a living or make videos for a living or
talk about sports for living. The downside to that is
people are going to say stuff, and the sooner we
accept that and move on and stop giving it. The
attention the sooner it's going to slow down. People get
fully famous off of being trolls and being haters and
talking about people and making fun of people. Like, it's
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time to stop paying so much attention to that. It's
gonna happen. It's a reality and the situation.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Some people get famous because nobody likes them, right, Like
I see pictures and posts, it's not a single nice
thing is said, but they keep put like but again,
it's like something off. People clearly don't like your content.
There means you like that just can't be good mentally
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for anybody, But they continue to post because it's engagement.
It's money, Like I get it from like a lifestyle standpoint,
it's easy money. But I don't like negative things being
said to me, whether they're true or not.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
But like, there are people who literally make a living.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Pissing people off, And I don't who's scarier.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Who's scarier the person making a living off of being
pissed off pissing people off, or the people enjoying being
pissed off so much that those people are getting hundreds
of thousands.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Of views Exactly. I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Everyone that it's impressive.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
It's very impressive. The rage.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Being able to monetize rage has been like, it's something
to me that my mind just simply cannot comprehend. If
I post something or if I say something, even before
I put something out, I literally go in my mind internally,
will this upset any anybody?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Same? That's sad, but same.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
But it's like, okay, so then yes, okay, we're going
to go through a little tree chart of how I
put out content.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Okay, well this makes people mad? Yes or no? Okay, no,
good post? Yes? All right? Who you figure out who?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Okay, it's gonna make this little sector math why. Okay,
that's not a good reason. Why, So I'm gonna post it,
Like I just wish people like have that internal dialogue. Like, obviously,
you don't post things and do things for people to
like it. Everyone's not gonna like everything that you do.
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But if you can, you can get a point across
without being offensive. You can get a point across without
hurting somebody's feelings unless something that they're doing is egregious. Obviously,
these people they deserve to be spoken about how they're
being spoken about. But also no, they don't because they're egregious.
We should actually just ignore them and send.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Them to say. What you said about choosing who you're
pissing off, because, to be honest, everything that you do,
especially as black women, Let's be real, everything that we
do is going to piss somebody off. We just have
to ask ourselves who exactly are we pissing off? Like,
to be honest, I'm gonna be real with y'all. LEXI
has nothing to do with it about if I'm pissing
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off like older repubs, white men.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I'm cool with that.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Like if they're pissing me, I'm so fine with that.
Like I am so cool with that. Now if i
look at what I'm about the post and I'm like
I might, I just might. There's one person chance I'm
gonna piss off the girls or the gays or black
people is not getting posted. I'm sorry. Those are groups
of people. Not only are they way too funny for
me to want them to be mad at me. I
don't want to be a meme. I don't want them insulting.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Me main character.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
You do not want to be the main character of
black Twitter ever, right in your life, right ever?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Ever, So, if I'm gonna piss the girls, the gays,
or black people off. That's just not gonna happen now
if I'm pissing off like the pubs.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
The pubs, And again it's just like, why tell me why.
I'm always I'm a big make it make sense. So
I'm a very understanding person. I love to learn. One
of our clips from our last our free agency emergency
episode was going crazy on Twitter from a page that
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actually I had blocked. He'll probably watch this now, so
shout out to you. I don't remember his page name,
but he was blocked. It was about us talking about
players wanting to go to Indiana for free agency, and
you know, you already know how people felt about me
and my comments about the rookies and all that kind
of stuff. But again, people clip certain things because like
(32:25):
it's an art, it is a skill to clip fifteen
seconds of an entire conversation that you know is going
to start a dialogue. And I have fallen victim to
that quite as many times online.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
And again I don't care exactly.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
We don't care because when you listen to the totality
of the conversation, you know that I didn't say anything wrong,
I didn't say anything bad, I didn't say anything harmful.
I didn't say anything negative, but in this little clip,
it's going to start a dialogue. And that getting in
media and getting in social media, specifically podcasting, I understand
that's how you get people to come watch your videos
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or talk talk about them, and that's just comes as
the game is the game. Oh well, but as long
as I've always stood firm and okay, like y'all can
be mad at me for this ten second clip, I
know what I said in the entire conversation, so I
don't care what y'all are saying.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
So now everyone's like, oh, we love this podcast, we
love LuxI.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Great because we've been taking this the entire time. If
Indiana said Lexi, do you want to come play here?
I probably would have said yes, Like what are you
kidding me? Real?
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Like please?
Speaker 1 (33:42):
This has been something that I, as somebody who gives
my opinion about a lot of stuff, get attacked for
so often. It's I'm gonna change my mind about stuff
and feel different ways about different things depending on who
I'm talking about, what weather it is outside. Like that
doesn't make me a hypocrite or wishy washy. I'm just
a normal person. For example, I'm currently getting attacked on
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the internet because I a couple of weeks ago after
Kendrick Lamar's Grammy sweep said okay, we and you know
we're both Drake girls.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Girl, I don't even started last night being my friend
of the car screaming you.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Can never make me hate you Drake. They can never
back he hate you his album with Party, right, And.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
So, okay, that's funny because I posted a video of
me dressed up as Drake for Halloween where I said
they can never make me hate Drake, and I was
getting attacked and being told I have no morals because
I am a Drake fan, right. And so then after
the Grammys, I made a video and I was like, Okay,
this is kind of crazy that all of Drake's peers
and coworkers aka the music industry are singing the song
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calling him a PDF file like I'm sideyeing that.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Not one person is like, hey, that's my friend. I'm
not going to sing that that everybody. That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
First of all, I do want to say I have
taken a high. It is from rap music as a whole.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I hate it. I love the rap girlies.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
I love like I really think the rap girlies are
carrying rap right now, Doci Lotto Meg, I really think
that they're carrying rap flow Milly.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I cannot listen to it anymore.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
It is so negative, it's so mean, it's violence disgusting.
But exactly when I tell you I listened to music
for the vibes, when I tell you, I had no
idea that Kendrick was calling Drake that For months I've.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Been on in the car a minor. I had no
idea what we were talking about.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
You thought they was talking about a note.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
I was talking about a music note. I had no
idea that that.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Was what the song was about until like all the
lost started coming out and I was like, I did
not listen to a single lyric of the song. I
just like dancing to the look I'm in la now
you know everybody do this little la whatever. I had
no idea once I found out that was the topic
of the song. That song, because it has not been played,
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I don't even think it's in my library anymore. And
that's not a like I'm defending Drake, like I don't
even know how we got to this conversation.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
But it's just like I don't like I.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Don't like it negative exactly, and that's the negativity away.
It's everywhere. It's in music, it's in sports, it's in me,
it's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
But that's why I try to take things as they
are and just have fun. And that's why with with
that whole the song situation, my point with leading back
to sports was I feel like, so I said, Okay,
that is weird that all these people are singing that
song and like enjoying it like that kind of makes
me side eyed because I'm like, yo, why are all
these people calling you that? Like that's insane. So then
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when Drake's album comes out and I'm I'm bopping to
Nokia like everybody everybody on Nokia, They're like, I thought
you was ov. Oh, let's get this right right now.
I don't have any sort of undying loyalty to any
person I've never met.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Before, are you, Guys? They do not? Are you?
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Like I'm going to when something's ugly, I'm gonna say
I think it's ugly and and and guess what if
I think Meghan the Stallion's dress last night was ugly,
She's just an example. I love that girl. If I
think her dress last night was ugly, and I also
think her dress next week is beautiful. That's okay, Like
I can change my mind. And it's the same thing
with sports. If I think that, you know, maybe people
would want to play for Indiana because they're killing it
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during free agency, but I also think that, you know,
their fans can be a little racist and a little
out of hand. Sometimes those are okay, like' but I
do want to mention as far as hate is concerned
online hate and everybody being negative, I feel like I
know Labron probably experiences hate to a high degree because
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if I experience hate, I can only imagine what Labron.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
I think people also need to think about that your
little hate bubble? Do you think you have think about
When I have my little moments of like, oh why
is everybody be mean? I quite literally just think of
Lebron James and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
You know what, right or anybody beyond so Drake. But
one person I really think about is I think the
only person I can think of in sports who really
has a hay train on them that I feel like
it's unfair and unnecessary is Angel Reese.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
That it's discussed, girl, it's absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
I have never seen anything like it. It's crazy sports
and entertainment. I have never seen anything like her comment
section or my comment section when I post about her,
so I can only imagine Riyah.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
I had a video of me on my TikTok people,
it's still up there.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
I was in a workout. It was like a ten
second clip of me in a training session.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
If anybody wants to see me playing basketball, it's on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
I don't put basketball stuff on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
I'll put pictures on Instagram, but workout videos, highlights.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
That's all on TikTok. Like I put that over.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
There, she does.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
I had a video of me working out, and usually,
like I love my followers and supporters. They're very they
love when I hoop, like and I appreciate y'all, Like
y'all literally got me back on the court because everyone
that follows me and supports me started when I was younger,
playing at Dude, playing at Maryland. Like, they know I
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can hoop, So I've always appreciated that about them. So
whenever I put up basketball content, it's overwhelmingly positive, right,
overwhelmingly positive. So sometimes if I need a little pick
me up, let me drive a little basketball picture. Let
me drop a little basketball video because I know, like y'all.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Gonna make me feel good. I put up this video
and it was just negative, negative, negative, negative, eggave.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
And I was just like, it was just me shooting
jump shots, which like, it's not cat like that's the thing.
Sometimes players will post something and they'll be like, that's
not even how you. That's not even you. This is
not how you play. All I gotta do is shoot
post a little shooting video. It's cool because people, I'm valid,
I'm stamped as a shooter. So I was getting all
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of these negative comments, and I was just like, what
is going on here? Why are y'all being so mean
to me? On TikTok, I.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Thought I was Angel Rees I mean and shout out
to Angel.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
We always talk about her, all of them, all the
w players, the.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Rookies, everybody. We love y'all.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
But my entire comment section for that particular video thought
I was Angel and they were so mean, and I
was just like.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
That's why I'm like when she cried in that postgame interview,
I believe it was I think when LS the last
heard and.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
She was sexualizing me.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
I That's why I literally have stamped myself as the
Angel Reese defense attorney on TikTok. I like, she could
be wrong and I'm an opportuny. I don't fit it
because that's gonna get clipped and they're going to use
that against me. Lord help me. But anyways, because I
think that the hate that she gets is so forced
and so.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Very unwarranted, and she's a kid.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Also, I want to mention for all of you. I
think there's this and we could probably do a whole
episode on just this particular topic. But when it comes
to being a woman and things that women get criticized
for that men don't i e. Body image, i e.
Being sexualized, things like that. When Angel says something like
I'm constantly being sexualized and then she puts on something
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sexy and y'all say, see, you want to be sexualized.
There's a difference between being sexy and being complimented and
you know, appreciating a woman then sexualizing her and being
weird and being ode like and not. I see that
come with the WNBA players all the time. It's like
this weird like y'all want y'all They want y'all to
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be sexy because that makes them able to appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
A page, right, but then you are sexy and now stop.
But I'm just like okay. The happy medium between that
is be yourself.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Yeah, like wow, that's a word.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Don't pander to what people want you to be or
don't want you to be. If you are just simply
you and people have an opinion about it, it's not
going to bother you. Like for me, for example, I
remember being in high school and college like posting bathing
suit photos and photos with your shirt like that was
it was, no, don't do it, you cannot do it.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
And I feel like.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
As a young girl, you probably shouldn't, Like you shouldn't
probably put pictures up in your bathroom in your bikini. Now,
if you're at the beach, if you're at the pool,
do whatever you want. That's just how I was raised.
And if just if you do something differently, I don't
judge you. I don't think you're a bad person, but like,
there are societal norms that you have to kind of
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think about when you put something out there to be consumed,
And that circles back to what we were talking about,
when you put something out there to be consumed and
commented on it's gonna be consumed and commented on. But negative,
overwhelming negativity is insane. But I remember I didn't really
get comfortable posting on my socials, like posting on game days,
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posting night before games. I didn't really get comfortable with
that until maybe like five years ago. Like, yeah, there's
certain things like even as a professional athlete, you're always
constantly thinking like, oh, this person's gonna look this person's
that's things that people that are not athletes. I don't
have a front office, I don't have a GM that
don't have brands and sponsors looking at you. They don't
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have to think about stuff like that. But I agree
with you, the hate that she gets is insane. And
once I realized that the comments were not to me,
I I didn't like my feelings weren't hurt because I
was like, these are they they don't think this is
like they're not commenting about me. But I've seen her comments.
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I've seen things that people say to her, and I've
always had a lot of empathy and I've always felt
really bad about that because what are you y'all?
Speaker 2 (44:06):
What are y'all doing?
Speaker 3 (44:08):
But once I saw that in my comment section, it
like it was like a switch was flipped in my brain,
Like this is what she sees this every day, every hour,
doing something that she loves. She's literally leveling up in
every aspect of her life. Whether y'all like it or not,
it's happening. That was like it was like it was
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like mind altering, Like I would.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Have to switch my comments, like that is a power
move from her because I would have to switch my
comments to the only people I follow the comment. There
is no way I would be able to sit and
look at that all the time and keep my head
high the way that she does. And that's another reason
I think that this is so important and what we're
talking about with coverage is so important because I feel
like a lot of shows think that they're checking off
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their WNBA coverage box by talking about whatever Angel Reese
is doing this that may not be about what she
wore on Wilden Out or something like grown assmen on
Sports Network television talking about what Angel rees wore on
Wilden Out. Y'all are weird. That is not covering women's basketball.
That is weird, and that is sexualizing her.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
And even if it's positive, it's weird.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
We are professional athletes.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Cover the sport, and if you don't, if you want
to talk about how certain players play, talk about how
certain players play. Again, there is a respectful and analytical
way to talk about players positively and negatively.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Everything that everybody says now.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
That I'm seeing, I'm like again, I'm so happy we're
doing this show, especially when the W season starts, because
however I'm playing, however the Storm is playing wherever we're at, Like,
we're gonna talk about where we are as a team,
We're going to talk about stats, we're gonna talk about analytics,
we're gonna talk about other teams. We're gonna get into
it because it is so verely lacking. And I thought
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after the college season, after how amazing the W season was,
it was going to.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Improve, and it has gotten worse. I didn't think it
could get worse. Have you heard.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
Anything about women's college basketball this year anywhere?
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Really?
Speaker 1 (46:18):
Not well, not really outside of Juju, And even with Juju,
it's still very minimal.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Like I have been in complete disbelief of the coverage
of the women's college game this year, because yes, there's
not a Kaitlin Clark, there's not an Angel Reese, there's
not that rivalry right now. But there is some very
good basketball being played by a lot of players, and
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it's just being kicked to the side, and I'm just like,
I don't understand it. Like, for example, this is a
perfect example. Hailey Vanlyth her redemption arc this year has
been incredible, absolutely amazing. They just won the Big twelve
title at tc freaking U. Like no one is checking
(47:10):
for TCU. Haley van Lidt gets there, she turns it
around like, y'all don't have nothing to say.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Okay, let me ask you a question. This is coming
around fair weather.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
But I am okay, I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
I don't know TCU has given me. Y'all should be
y'all should be grown.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Like you know, they're old. They got a lot of old.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
They got a lot of.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
They do, but so do the man. Hey, they do
that too. That's how college should be. That's what I'm saying.
It's so funny. It's like people are like, she's in
her fourth fifth year. Yes she is.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
I know y'all are used to twelve year olds being
the league in the NBA, but like, no, like there
was a time where whole championship teams were like twenty two,
twenty three, twenty four.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
No, I'm not you know about about fourth about old.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
They are old. But again, so you better win, you.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
Better win, you better win, you better win. Imagine you're
leaving your walking home from a geography class and you
know you have to guard a twenty.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Seven year old.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
I remember my senior year of college. I was like,
get I'm done. I was twenty three, Get me out
of here. The fact that these girls and guys stay
in college as long as they do. Hey, get your degree,
I'm all for it, trust me, get all the degree money, Yeah,
get all you can get from these schools because they
do not care about you.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
I'm there, I'm here for that.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
But yes, you're twenty nine in college. You better win
every game you play. You better dominate every game you play.
But the fact that everybody had so much to say
about Hayley at LSU, and that was not a good
decision for her as a fit fit wise, I don't
think her game changed at all. It just wasn't a
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good fit. And that happened sometimes. She bet on herself
and went to TCU. Probably got some money over there.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Good for you.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
And she's been killing crickets I'm just like again, the rage, baiting,
the negativity. Why does everything have to be negative? Like, yes,
y'all had, y'all got, y'all licks in on her. Trust me,
I remember the memes. I remember it all.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
But now she's turned it around and y'all have nothing
to say. That is the thing about media I don't like.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
Agreed, It's okay when you are presented with new information,
your opinion can change.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
That's fine, and that's I think a lot of people
are scared of that.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
But because it's because people are so disrespectful, like they
like cross the boundary, like you, there's like a point
in our return. That's how I feel about my WNBA career.
So many people cross the boundary, so they just got
to stay over there. And it's okay because I know
that I I've never changed who I am and my
work ethic never changed. But the fact that people are
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just overly disrespectful off rip. Then, yeah, you get presented
with new information, you really can't come back actually because
you were so insane.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
That's what I'm gonna say that On.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
The first side, like people don't really give media that's
unfortunate the opportunity to change their minds, because it's like
if you say, I've said before that I think that
Kevin Durant's career is forever going to be saying by
the fact that he went to Golden State, I don't
care what he does, I don't care where he goes.
I'm not saying I don't think he's a great basketball
player whatever, but that narrative is going to follow him
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for the rest of his career until he retires. It's
just the truth. Sorry, But the point is that doesn't
mean I can't say some like positive things about him
or acknowledge when he is doing well, or acknowledge when
he's doing great. And I think that even I like
am going to take more responsibility on doing that because,
for example, if you made a Haley band lit joke
or meme, or if you are a media member and
I'm not just talking about people on social media who
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are like kids in their room getting their back off
of like clickbait and make a memes like whatever, do
what you want, but the people on television, like if
you made fun of her when she was getting dusted
by or whatever, all the memes like, then you need
to cover the fact that she's doing well. Now that
needs that needs to also come up. That's responsible about.
Speaker 3 (51:15):
It exactly, that's responsible media coverage.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
That she was doing bad before, she's doing great now.
You had so much to say before, you.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
Had clearly you have things to say, so say say
it now.
Speaker 3 (51:31):
So that yeah, again, as an athlete with grievances, since
we all have grievances, that for me, that has always
been my biggest issue with how sports are covered is that, Yes, criticism,
I get it, that's how we're built where you have
thick skin.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Trust me, we have thick skin.
Speaker 3 (51:52):
But when there's good things going on, talk about those
two y'all. People were shitting on Steph Curry all season
because the Warriors were horrible. They're not they're still not
winning a championship, and that's okay, but they've turned it
around a bit.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
They've turned it around.
Speaker 3 (52:10):
He had fifty six points, right mm hmm, and they're like,
we're not gonna on.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
The same day. It's like his day.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
I saw it on Twitter, like he's had like whatever
day that date that was.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
He's had like.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
Career games three straight years. Like that's fun to talk about.
Like it's like there's no way that people go into
work every day, go to write, Go sit on their
little computers and type up a story that y'all it
brings y'all joy to talk so negatively about everybody all
the time.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
Like, I don't know, it's like psych.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
Later, But I'm really cited about seventy six ers.
Speaker 3 (52:49):
We have our we have our producers on the show
right now, Zoe and Grace, like, don't, don't. We're not
whether I'm having a great season or an okay season,
You're not gonna stop making episodes Like no, George.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
I feel very bad. You gotta. I've taken that for
him because.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
He stopped making his shows because again, I because when
they started losing.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
I I'm like an investigator.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
I actively went to his YouTube page and his podcast
pee page to look at the comments and the way
people were speaking to him and about him about basketball
on his little podcast baby that he loves like it's
a hobby. We've been on what this for an hour?
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One hour once a week, Like that's how long podcasts take, guys.
Like the way people were speaking to that man online
and just ruining this outlet that he created for himself.
It upset me because I'm like, y'all, don't know what
else he has going on in his life. Y'all just
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see the basketball thing, and I'm just like, I don't
like that. He had to be like, I'm going to
take a break from this because I need to focus
on basketball, like.
Speaker 1 (54:15):
And I hate people are dumb. He has he is
Paul George. There is a whole media machine behind that
podcast that is like planning the episodes and editing the
episodes whatever. He sits down for an hour once a
week and talks. That's it.
Speaker 3 (54:31):
In his hotel room on the road when he's not
doing anything anyway. So I mean, and I follow his
producer on Instagram. We follow each other, and I asked him.
I genuinely asked him. I said, is it a problem?
You think it is problematic for players to have podcasts
in season? And he said, it depends on the player,
that's all he said.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
And I was.
Speaker 3 (54:54):
I said, all right, We're up for the challenge, Mariah,
because we full Circle will be in full effect the
entire w season, no matter what is going on.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
I don't care what nobody says.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
We in here and I will be asked and I listen,
y'all you better know that. That's why I'm here, I'm
gonna ask Lexi the questions. She may decline to answer them,
but I will be asking yes.
Speaker 3 (55:15):
So anything at all, things, WNBA College, whatever, y'all can
find it here on the Full Circle podcast.
Speaker 2 (55:22):
This was an amazing episode. I love it. We still
turns up from Nashville.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
Let's end on a positive note, and let's each say
like one positive thing about the sports world that we
want the audience to take away.
Speaker 3 (55:38):
The one oh this will be We'll give We'll give flowers.
I was giving a flower to Haley van Lit. Haley
van Lit gets a flower, and then I'm going to
give flowers to Athletes Unlimited for putting together an amazing
fourth season. We had a great time. It was amazing.
Everyone had a blast. And this is my family and
I love it here. I love it here.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
As far as my flowers, I want to give them
to two medium members because I feel like the media
has been getting thrashed good. But I want to give
my flower one to l Duncan, who I absolutely adore.
Like for all the reasons I said before. I think
that she can be critical and funny and also very
responsible in the way she covers things. Girl Dad iconic.
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And then number two. I want to give a flower
to cheneaum Okay because the way that she talked about
what you've been talking about this whole episode, and athletes
and how they get insulted and what their problem is
with the coverage of sports. The way that she articulated
it really changed my mind about it because I felt
a little attack on my theat I was like, what
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the hell y'all want us to say? Then I say
that yep, And then I watched Shane's take and I said, Oh,
she read me like Goaden me all the way out,
and I think that she Both of those women need
to be on every billboard, every television station, every show
like they're so talented.
Speaker 3 (56:58):
No, we love them el Cheney, Hayley, Van Liz at
least unlimited.
Speaker 2 (57:04):
We love y'all.
Speaker 3 (57:05):
This was an amazing episode of Full Circle Podcast and
we will see y'all next week.
Speaker 1 (57:10):
Bye. Thanks for listening to Full Circle. We'll be back
next week with more basketball for the Girls by the girls.
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Our supervising producer is Grace Fuse. Our producer is Zoe Danklab.
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What's good, y'all, Welcome back to another episode of Full
Circle High Lexi, Hey, girl, we have a lot to
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talk about today.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We need a thought we do we really do well.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I believe AU has concluded and you gave it the
goodbye that it deserves.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Oh yeah, we had a time last night. Girl. I
wish you were still here. You came the wrong weekend,
low key, I know.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I love Nashville.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
It was fun.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Even though we were like in our little au bubble,
we made it poppin. It was really fun.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Last night.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
We had our last games. I finished in seventh place.
Everybody top ten.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Congratulations Lexi.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
So that bonus check is going to hit soon. Period.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
We had a wrap party last night, and I just
want to have a conversation real quick about how athletes party.
Oh my god, it's like, and you went to Georgia,
so you are around you know the athlete party culture.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
When I first learned how to party, when I got
to college shocked. I was shocked. I didn't even understand.
And i'mn't even talking about like boy athletes because I'd
be one of them, like the plague, but girl athletes
like that.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Y'all get down, We get down. It gets to it.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
But it's because y'all are very disciplined and you have
like such a strict schedule and it doesn't really matter
what day of the week it is, because you guys
could have work all weekend and then not even get
your time to have a little drinking in. So when
it's a Monday night.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
It's like an inside joke amongst all, like even college athletes,
it's like, why are we going this hard? Like is
there something that we need to talk about? Like do
we need to go to therapy? Are we stressed?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Why?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I mean, probably athletes, we.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Have one day of freedom and you decide to just
go crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It's actually insane, but you're right.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
It's just you have so much discipline ninety nine point
nine percent of the time, and you have one opportunity
a week, sometimes a month sometimes to like just not
care about anything.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
It's on top of that, I would love to talk
to you about the fact that my sister is a
division one volleyball player, and like she's still very young,
but her whole life has been consumed with volleyball. When
she had prom she had volleyball practice at aight am
the next day.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Me too, turns that way.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, So it's like, of course, when you get older
and you're of age to drink and you're having fun
with your friends and you're in Nashville and you're having
good time and you've been in AU season all of
these weeks, of course you're going to want to have fun.
Your whole life has been dedicated to being disciplined for
your sport.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Literally, but I'm like, why do we have to like go?
So it's crazy, Like I'm thirty now, Like if y'all,
if y'all are watching this right now, y'all can see
it all over my face that last night was a
long night, but it was so much fun.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I really can't.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Okay, you look like you're going, oh thanks, it's happiness,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I think that that's a myth about or at least
with our generation, it is about, Oh, you turn thirty,
like you're gonna have to be in the house and
be locked up and married with seven kids. And I
feel like thirty. They is like the new twenty thirty, right,
because I'd be like, I'm sixteen and I'm twenty four.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Girl, I feel twenty four is crazy. Right.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
First of all, can we talk about Okay, I was
Maria when Mariah was in Nashville and we went out
to dinner after our live show, which was amazing. By
the way, My best friend Joy who lives in Nashville,
she's thirty one. She had no idea you were twenty four, right,
So we went to dinner. All right, She's, Oh my god,
I love Mariah. She's so intelligent. She really has Like.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
How old is she?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I'm like, Mariah is just a baby. And we were
just like, what were we doing at twenty four?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Nothing?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I mean I was in the WNBA at twenty four,
but I was still very much a baby.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Like what was I doing.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
At twenty four? Oh yeah, I was just a professional
basketball But it was like.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
It's so crazy because even yesterday I was thinking about,
like in the Grand Scheme of life, like even though
we have the complaints of how people talk about us,
which we're going to get into next, we play basketball.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
We play a sport for a living, Like it's so fun.
Like that's why. Yeah, let's actually get into it right now.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Let's just talk about it at the end of the day,
Like what people say to us about us, da da
da da.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I play a game.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I play a sport as my job that I love,
so like there has to be we got to meet
in the middle as media, fans athletes, like we all
have to meet in the middle of this is a sports,
this is a game.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
It's fun.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
And I don't know at what point all of that
got lost amongst everybody, Like I feel like we lost
a plot of what's sporting.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Let me introduce the topic just in case our listeners
don't know what we're talking about. So basically, Anthony Edwards
came out and said that he didn't want to be
the face of the NBA, I believe, right after All
Star weekend, and obviously everybody's been kind of trying to
put this new face on the NBA of the NBA
title onto him, and he basically came out and said
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he doesn't want it. That's what Winby's for. I'm good.
And then obviously a lot of people had stuff to
say about that, and then Lebron James gave his take
on it. And said, Okay, why would anyone want to
be the face of our league when the people who
cover our league and talk about our league are shitting.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
On it all the time.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Thus started a whole debate over the conversations rounding athletes,
the coverage surrounding athletes. Athletes like they're being unfairly covered media,
certain media have all different types of opinions on it,
which we'll get into in a second. But Steven Asmath
will just go on by name, basically came back at Lebron,
essentially proving his point, saying, well, if we can't criticize you,
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what the hell can we talk about? And I don't
criticize you when you ruined the dunk contest and blah
blah blah blah. Thus LEXI enter your take.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
It's just like and we say all the time on
Gils Gil even though people are like Gil and we
talk a lot of nonsense, We make a lot of jokes.
If you really peel back all the layers, we all
are athletes, professional athlete, college athletes. At the core, Gil
always says, don't tell me why you don't like that player,
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tell me why you love this player.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I just it's why is that so hard for people
to do.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
You do not.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I mean it's even within life.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
You don't have to tear down so somebody else to
uplift this person. Just talk about how much you love
this person and all the things amazing things that they do,
without even bringing in all these other people and tearing
them down, because you need to like catapult your fave.
Like I just don't, like I'm.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Like looking back.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
First of all, I don't know why now Lebron decided
to say that because and I'm glad he did, but
like this has been a problem with the coverage of sports,
I think for a while now, where like people just
nitpick at like weird things, like someone could be like, oh,
Luca had a triple double, but we're going to talk
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about like the six turnovers he had, or like the
defense he didn't play. He had a triple double and
they won. Why why do we have to nitpick anything
in that moment? Like I'm all for constructive criticism, and
I said that to you on Twitter. There is a
very fine line between personal attacks and constructive criticism, and
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the media is like tiptoeing that line, like we saw
it with Lebron and Bronnie Why does Lebron's son have
anything to do with the twenty plus years Lebron has
been in the league, Like that has nothing to do
with anything?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Okay, I do have a response to that. What Bronni
has to do with Lebron's twenty plus year career is
the fact that Bronni would not be in the NBA
if it weren't for that twenty plus years of career.
So that's that's where the relevance comes in. I do
think that the people cross the line though.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah, I understand that for Bronni, Okay, you got to
prove yourself what he's doing, and he's doing it very gracefully.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
But for Broun, what is that? Like?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
We know it And I don't like to throw people's
business out, but we know what Michael Jordan's Sun was
doing a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
What was he doing, Maric? She made a video about it,
right right? Was rest of her?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
D you why exactly? I think that, like you said,
there is a fine line between constructive criticism and personal attacks.
I also think that what people are ignoring because it
seems like everybody is kind of complaining about everything right now.
The media is complaining about the league. The league is
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complaining about the media, the fans are complaining about both.
It's confusing. But I think what coming from a sort
of media perspective because I'm on social media, but I
feel like my job is it necessarily to please the
athletes I'm talking about as much it is as it
is to please my audience. And one thing I mentioned
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when I was talking about this on Twitter, also, I
don't agree with Steven A. I want to like get
that out because people got confused on Twitter. I disagree.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I think it was way too much with.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, I think he does way too much when it
comes to covering athletes and black athletes in particular, and
he knows that. Like I don't care. But I think
for me at least, there is a thirst and a
hunger for people to hear about those negative things that
media say. And I think it's unfair for media that
what they say constantly gets clipped into the very negative
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part of what they say. For example that Lebron quote
where he says the media is constantly shitting on our game.
He also went on to say he understands that it's
a responsibility about being a part of the league whatever,
but nobody heard that part because they just flip it
into the entire clip. But that rage make comes from
the fact that that's what fans want to see. I
don't care what the fans say, Oh, we want to
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hear you guys, like we want analysis over storylines and
blah blah blah blah. As somebody in social media who
studies my analytics, No they don't. They want to hear
more about why the NBA's ratings are low and why
Joel Embiid isn't playing, and they want to hear that
stuff more than they want to hear about the positive stuff. Now,
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where the media has a duty is we do draw
the line for what they're hearing, and so there needs
to be more of a balance. I don't think that
athletes should be void of all criticism at all, actually,
But at the same time, like you said, if you're
going to talk about Lebron's quote about the media shitting
on players for an hour and a half on first take,
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you probably should mention the fact that Steph Curry dropped
the six points to night exactly. Like that should come
up at the top of the show, not at the
very end, because you know, like fans are thirsting to
hear that spicy who's going to be the face? Both
people love those conversations and I love to have them
in real life. Yeah, but if you want the fans
to direct more of their attention to what's actually happening
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on the court, then you need to mention that at
the very beginning and mention that more and that other
stuff needs to be a smaller percentage.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Transitioning this to like the w what the coverage of
our league is going to look like this summer, because
I feel like the last year, the way the women's
coverage has shifted and changed changed, and last summer, like
we said, it was very poorly covered. It was they
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didn't do the league the justice it deserved as far
as the talent, the storylines, everything.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
They kind of hyper focused.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
On one thing and just let it go whatever it
had to go. Now that the NBA players have mentioned
the unfairness quote unquote of the media coverage, I wonder
how that's going to affect how they cover the w
Because we say, I say it all, I've said it
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for years. The coverage of the WNBA is subpar at best,
I think, and I think when they do decide to
put some time and energy into it with Drea Cheney,
n L the Big Three, it's amazing, but that's like
few and far between, like they have so many other
things that they're covering, and WNBA, I feel like, has
always been like back like, oh oh there's a w
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A game today, Okay goo, y'all three go turn turns
up and be up for a few days and then
come back and cover everything else. So I'm very interested
to see if this sentiment carries over because again with women,
you know, people feel like they got a tiptoe, like, no,
we still want fair coverage, we want analysis, we want
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constructive criticism. But I hope that they don't because I
just feel like when it comes to women's sports, it's
like it's all or nothing. So it's like now you've
heard what the guys have to say, so now when
it comes to the women, there's like, okay, well athlete,
like we're just not going to say anything about them.
And I hope that that doesn't happen because this season
of the w I feel like it's going to be
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the most fun, the most interesting. The storylines are crazy,
like we might have to be the narrative starters Mariah
for the summer.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Well, I feel like part of that problem comes from
the people in power that we're not seeing. I feel
like a lot of the blame whenever we have this
conversation about athletes and the media of how the w
is being covered, the lack thereof coverage when it comes
to WNBA comes from the people in suits at ESPN, ABC,
the networks that we're not seeing. And so everybody wants
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to blame stephen A. Smith or this person or that person,
but these are the big fish. Like part of the problem,
I think is the fact that the number one voice
we're hearing about sports on every network for every sport
probably shouldn't be steven A. And this is coming from
somebody who is I've never played any of the sports
that I'd be talking about. I mean I played them,
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but like on a very teeny tiny level. I'm not
a pro, okay, And I'm very aware that if I'm
having a certain level of conversation, if a certain level
of analysis is happening, obviously I need to have somebody
next to me that knows a little bit more than
I do. It's just common sense, and I think steven
A does a good job of that, but at the
same time, it's like, who are we promoting as the
premier voices for each sport? Right when it comes to WNBA,
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you men like Cheney, l Andrea. There's so many great
voices that I think it's up to those people at
the top of the totem pool to promote them more
and to make sure that we're constantly seeing ads of them,
that we're seeing their face as much as we're seeing
faces like Steven A. Smith, because that's why he gets
every when everybody's oh, the media, the media does this.
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The media does that well. I watch a lot of
basketball coverage where even like a Brian Windhorse he's not
a professional basketball player, is very positive and Andrea is
very positive. El duncan Is I think does a very
good job of towing the line of entertainment, analysis and
storylines like she does all of that. She makes me laugh.
She'll make fun of you if you need to be
made fun of, but she also can be very serious
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and analytical when need be so, and I think that
they need to put her on more stuff. And Chaney
also like, obviously she's on NBA's Today and stuff, but
push her the same way you're pushing all of these
other people, and then maybe everybody won't be so angry
and the players will be so angry.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Why everybody met, I don't, like I'm trying to figure out,
like I understand, even with my personal journey in the league,
Like I see why some athletes are frustrated. I see
why they're like, why are y'all talking about me? Like,
y'all have no idea what I went through? Y'all have
no idea what goes on behind the scenes. And I
think also there's like an athlete code, Like I can't
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imagine if all of a sudden, the athlete code like
evaporated from everybody's brain because people are talking about this
is going on in this team, this is going on
in this camp. Da da da dah, And what's the
athlete code? You don't talk about what goes on for real,
that whatever is going on behind the scenes stays behind
the scenes, no matter how messed up it is, no
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matter if you are getting thrown under the bus. You
do not come out and put air out dirty laundry.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
That's not a thing. You don't do that.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
And I feel like a lot of people like they
understand it, but like no one has really come out
like and been like y'all, like people are like you
guys don't know, Like it's typical. You don't know what's
going on in the locker room. You don't know what's
going on in practice. No, you don't, and you're never
going to know unless you pull up and see it,
which you can't. But it's like so many storylines narratives
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get thrown out and athletes just have to like just
sit smile away because you got to be a professional
through it all because you have no idea what is
going on?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
At what level do you think former or current athletes
that are doing media now, at what level do you
think it's too much? Because a lot of people connected
with Lebron said to inside the NBA, and I saw
people coming at me about how Charles Barkley called No,
it wasn't been cments, it was Anthony Davis, how he
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calls him street clothes and how that's like disrespectful and
personal and step I personally think that's funny, But I'm
not Anthony David because funny are.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
You are always in street clothes?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I mean, okay, so but that's what I'm asking, Like
genuinely out of curiosity.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Where is the I feel like, And we don't see
it as much in the W because we don't have
as many games. You don't have like load management, Like
that's not a thing in the W yet. I hope
it never becomes a thing. But we also don't have
the schedule that those guys have. But it's like after
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I have been sidelined for the last two years and
you hear people constantly digging at your availability and stuff,
it's like one of those things like you don't really
understand it until it happens to you. Like you can
have empathy for people and you can feel like, oh,
like he's always hurt, like that must suck, but like
until it is you in that position, like you really
(18:40):
don't know how annoying it is when people are always
just like you are never on the court, you're never this,
you're never that. But yeah, you look at these guys.
They're making tens and hundreds of millions of dollars, so
it's like you have you throw that into the mix
and people kind of lose the empathy, which understandably I
get it, but it's like being the bro, like that's
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for us that's the fun. Like we're at the fun part,
Like getting to the highest level, Like that's that was
the goal. Like we all had a little notebooks, we
had our essays in school.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
What do you want to be when you get older?
I want to be a professional basketball player.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Cool, we're there now the end, Like we're going to
keep working and grinding, but like this has been like
ten twenty thirty years of work for a lot of us,
and people are starting to make it like not fun
and make us feel like less than because we've made
it to the top. And it's just like expectation after
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expectation after expectation.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Which I trust me, I understand.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
And as fans, we owe fans performance, we owe them entertainment.
They're spending money on us, they support us, they love us,
all these things. But it's like at the end of
the day, like getting to the highest level, like that
was it, Like that was plan a for so many
of us, and we got there and now now.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
We're just like living life and having.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Fun because we've been we had to sacrifice so much early.
So it's like it's sad when I look at players
like Lebron, who's what forty, Like we talked about him
like he's seventy six, he's forty, like.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
He has so he has his entire life still to
enjoy the fruits of his labor.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
And everybody just constantly like, you're not this, You're not that,
You're not that. Da da da da, even with DT
with her retirement, Diana Tarossi, Cannie Parker, Maya the way
those three and Elena Deladon, which she hasn't officially retired yet,
but she kind of just rode off into the sunset.
They weren't around really when social media was like this,
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but as women like, we feel things deeper, like that's
just a thing. We don't make as much money, we can't,
we can't block things out as much as the men can.
I understand why they kind of were just like cool,
I'm done, bye, me too. And then you see Diana
she goes on the view Whoopy Goldberg pronounces her name
freaking incorrectly, like she called her that's Teresi, and of
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course Diana, in her true fashion, then called Whoopy whippy.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
She said, Whiopy.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Goldber, but I don't see oh yeah, whoop for whoopy
mispronounced Diana Rossi's name. Coming on the View to announce
her retirement, pronounces her name incorrectly, and.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
That's terrible for us long it's a funny joke, but
it's just like, no, it's not a joke, Like it's
not funny, like it's not not pronounced Diana Tarossi's name,
Like it's a very easy name. For as long as
she's been doing this, I know if with my little
broadcasting amount of career that before I do a panel anything,
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you ask how to pronounce people's names.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, even if you don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
But it's like that's just one on one yeah, And it.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Was like funny ha ha, like oh, just girls making misss. No,
you would never do that to a man, I'm sorry,
like you would never do your.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Professional and Diana because she would know the name of
a men's coach.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Like so for her, that's how she came into announce
officially announcing her retirement on the View, which is I
don't I don't know why she went on the View,
but hey, it's a.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Lot of eyes.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I don't leadership, but I know after that moment happened,
she's like, oh no, why did I come on here?
But Diana handled it in the Diana way mispronounced will
Be's name right back to her.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
But that's in no. I will say that a huge
part of this, and I want to say I think
that with athletes and with this like complaint of coverage
that they're experiencing, part of the issue is social media
and comments. I feel like if they were just reading
this stuff, you were just reading this stuff about yourselves
(22:54):
in the newspaper, it would just it would be a
little bit less all consuming. But because of social media,
and because not only does steven A I keep using
him as an example, but he's the biggest person, right, yeah,
the biggest fish. Steven A comes out and says Kevin
Durant is the softest superstar or whatever, and that's just
the headline. On top of that, Kevin Durant is getting
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hundreds of comments and people also calling him the same thing.
But I think it's important for us all to realize
that this social media world is new to all of
us and it's unfortunate that everybody has something to say
about everything and it explodes everything into a much bigger
deal than it needs to be. Like, even if I
calls up Kevin Durant soft, I'm getting insulted Kevin Durant.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Is getting inside everybody.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
We're all getting insulted, and everybody's getting in.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Time bring somebody else they like. The right reaching that
people do online is actually.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Now I'm being stupid, Kevin Durant soft. Everybody's dumb. It's like,
the whole thing is ridiculous. I think that we all
just need to I've gotten a lot better with comments
and stuff, just based on the fact that everybody gets
it's happens to everybody. Nobody has anything to say about anything.
I was just before we started recording looking at all
of the Oscars looks.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
And.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
So nobody has anything I say about anything ever, nothing, nothing, nothing.
I'm telling you, I said, maybe the most perfect dress ever.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, I say it all the time.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
People don't get embarrassed in public enough. People don't feel
awkward in public enough. Like all people need on the
internet is one person to be like, I agree with you,
and they're like, my point is valid. So I'm going
to just keep reiterating this point because somebody out there,
they could be across the world, across the country, they
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couldn't abot It's not even a real person agrees with me.
So I'm just gonna keep hammering this point home.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Over and over and over.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
You know how people are like boo tomatoes like people
don't People don't feel that anymore in real life.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Part of the problem is back in the day, you
used to actually have to boose somebody to their face
and throw tomatoes, which it would take a lot for
people to get that angry about something to do that,
whereas now you can just send tomato emojis, comment boo
from your living realm, which it doesn't feel as right,
it doesn't feel as serious.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Send of me and I don't listen.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
I understand being critical of staff. I have stuff to
say about stuff all the time. I sent somebody's dressed
to my best friend earlier and I said, this is
absolutely horrible, and that's where he said, I'm not going
to comment on their Yeah, right, I'm.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Not gonna com chat. Do y'all have friends?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Every time I see a negative comment, I'm just like,
you don't have a group chat to send this to.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
You don't have a best de to send this to.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Never in my life have I looked here's a here's
a crazy example. And I'm so sorry to our listeners
for this example. My Instagram reels timeline is absolutely ridiculous.
It makes no sense. I don't know why I get
the videos. I get whatever go on my reels yesterday
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it is a page about a man with five wives. There, okay,
the whole page is about this man with his five wives,
and the entire page is dedicated to them addressing the
negative comments about their lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I don't have.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Any opinion on someone else's lifestyle. I don't care, but
I was every video was them responding to something negative
that somebody said under a post that they made regardless
of their lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Their posts were cringey as hell. I don't care if
you have one.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Wife, five wives, your content is weird, like, it's weird content.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Never in my brain did it say, let me type out,
I hate your content, it's weird.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I kind of internally had my.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Dialogue and I was like, I don't really like this,
and I moved on. Now I'm talking about it here again.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
We don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
I don't even remember the page. I don't remember these
people's names. I just remember seeing it, feeling how I felt,
and I just moved on. Why is it so hard
for everybody to do? I think we as public figures.
I think that again, people are insecure, so when somebody
comes at your lifestyle or something like that. And another
thing that is new to me from being online is
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people writing things about me that are wrong, like one
thing that I've wanted to show myself correct incorrect. This
happens to you all the time, people assuming things about
your health, and I'm sure this happens to other people
who get made fun of about their health all the time,
like a Ben Simmons or a Joel Embiid or you Like,
I'm sure that that is very annoying.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
But at the same time, I've learned that social media
has given people the unique ability to all be in
the public eye. Like I'm just a girl in my
room and I'm now in the public eye, and it's
like people are gonna have people are gonna have something
to say about me, regardless whether it's true or not.
And I have to have enough self control to know
that being able to do something cool like play basketball
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for a living or make videos for a living or
talk about sports for living. The downside to that is
people are going to say stuff, and the sooner we
accept that and move on and stop giving it. The
attention the sooner it's going to slow down. People get
fully famous off of being trolls and being haters and
talking about people and making fun of people. Like, it's
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time to stop paying so much attention to that. It's
gonna happen. It's a reality and the situation.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Some people get famous because nobody likes them, right, Like
I see pictures and posts, it's not a single nice
thing is said, but they keep put like but again,
it's like something off. People clearly don't like your content.
There means you like that just can't be good mentally
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for anybody, But they continue to post because it's engagement.
It's money, Like I get it from like a lifestyle standpoint,
it's easy money. But I don't like negative things being
said to me, whether they're true or not.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
But like, there are people who literally make a living.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Pissing people off, And I don't who's scarier.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Who's scarier the person making a living off of being
pissed off pissing people off, or the people enjoying being
pissed off so much that those people are getting hundreds
of thousands.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Of views Exactly. I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Everyone that it's impressive.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
It's very impressive. The rage.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Being able to monetize rage has been like, it's something
to me that my mind just simply cannot comprehend. If
I post something or if I say something, even before
I put something out, I literally go in my mind internally,
will this upset any anybody?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Same? That's sad, but same.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
But it's like, okay, so then yes, okay, we're going
to go through a little tree chart of how I
put out content.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Okay, well this makes people mad? Yes or no? Okay, no,
good post? Yes? All right? Who you figure out who?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Okay, it's gonna make this little sector math why. Okay,
that's not a good reason. Why, So I'm gonna post it,
Like I just wish people like have that internal dialogue. Like, obviously,
you don't post things and do things for people to
like it. Everyone's not gonna like everything that you do.
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But if you can, you can get a point across
without being offensive. You can get a point across without
hurting somebody's feelings unless something that they're doing is egregious. Obviously,
these people they deserve to be spoken about how they're
being spoken about. But also no, they don't because they're egregious.
We should actually just ignore them and send.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Them to say. What you said about choosing who you're
pissing off, because, to be honest, everything that you do,
especially as black women, Let's be real, everything that we
do is going to piss somebody off. We just have
to ask ourselves who exactly are we pissing off? Like,
to be honest, I'm gonna be real with y'all. LEXI
has nothing to do with it about if I'm pissing
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off like older repubs, white men.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I'm cool with that.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Like if they're pissing me, I'm so fine with that.
Like I am so cool with that. Now if i
look at what I'm about the post and I'm like
I might, I just might. There's one person chance I'm
gonna piss off the girls or the gays or black
people is not getting posted. I'm sorry. Those are groups
of people. Not only are they way too funny for
me to want them to be mad at me. I
don't want to be a meme. I don't want them insulting.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Me main character.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
You do not want to be the main character of
black Twitter ever, right in your life, right ever?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Ever, So, if I'm gonna piss the girls, the gays,
or black people off. That's just not gonna happen now
if I'm pissing off like the pubs.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
The pubs, And again it's just like, why tell me why.
I'm always I'm a big make it make sense. So
I'm a very understanding person. I love to learn. One
of our clips from our last our free agency emergency
episode was going crazy on Twitter from a page that
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actually I had blocked. He'll probably watch this now, so
shout out to you. I don't remember his page name,
but he was blocked. It was about us talking about
players wanting to go to Indiana for free agency, and
you know, you already know how people felt about me
and my comments about the rookies and all that kind
of stuff. But again, people clip certain things because like
(32:25):
it's an art, it is a skill to clip fifteen
seconds of an entire conversation that you know is going
to start a dialogue. And I have fallen victim to
that quite as many times online.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
And again I don't care exactly.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
We don't care because when you listen to the totality
of the conversation, you know that I didn't say anything wrong,
I didn't say anything bad, I didn't say anything harmful.
I didn't say anything negative, but in this little clip,
it's going to start a dialogue. And that getting in
media and getting in social media, specifically podcasting, I understand
that's how you get people to come watch your videos
(32:59):
or talk talk about them, and that's just comes as
the game is the game. Oh well, but as long
as I've always stood firm and okay, like y'all can
be mad at me for this ten second clip, I
know what I said in the entire conversation, so I
don't care what y'all are saying.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
So now everyone's like, oh, we love this podcast, we
love LuxI.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Great because we've been taking this the entire time. If
Indiana said Lexi, do you want to come play here?
I probably would have said yes, Like what are you
kidding me? Real?
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Like please?
Speaker 1 (33:42):
This has been something that I, as somebody who gives
my opinion about a lot of stuff, get attacked for
so often. It's I'm gonna change my mind about stuff
and feel different ways about different things depending on who
I'm talking about, what weather it is outside. Like that
doesn't make me a hypocrite or wishy washy. I'm just
a normal person. For example, I'm currently getting attacked on
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the internet because I a couple of weeks ago after
Kendrick Lamar's Grammy sweep said okay, we and you know
we're both Drake girls.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Girl, I don't even started last night being my friend
of the car screaming you.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Can never make me hate you Drake. They can never
back he hate you his album with Party, right, And.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
So, okay, that's funny because I posted a video of
me dressed up as Drake for Halloween where I said
they can never make me hate Drake, and I was
getting attacked and being told I have no morals because
I am a Drake fan, right. And so then after
the Grammys, I made a video and I was like, Okay,
this is kind of crazy that all of Drake's peers
and coworkers aka the music industry are singing the song
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calling him a PDF file like I'm sideyeing that.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Not one person is like, hey, that's my friend. I'm
not going to sing that that everybody. That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
First of all, I do want to say I have
taken a high. It is from rap music as a whole.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I hate it. I love the rap girlies.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
I love like I really think the rap girlies are
carrying rap right now, Doci Lotto Meg, I really think
that they're carrying rap flow Milly.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I cannot listen to it anymore.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
It is so negative, it's so mean, it's violence disgusting.
But exactly when I tell you I listened to music
for the vibes, when I tell you, I had no
idea that Kendrick was calling Drake that For months I've.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Been on in the car a minor. I had no
idea what we were talking about.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
You thought they was talking about a note.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
I was talking about a music note. I had no
idea that that.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Was what the song was about until like all the
lost started coming out and I was like, I did
not listen to a single lyric of the song. I
just like dancing to the look I'm in la now
you know everybody do this little la whatever. I had
no idea once I found out that was the topic
of the song. That song, because it has not been played,
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I don't even think it's in my library anymore. And
that's not a like I'm defending Drake, like I don't
even know how we got to this conversation.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
But it's just like I don't like I.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Don't like it negative exactly, and that's the negativity away.
It's everywhere. It's in music, it's in sports, it's in me,
it's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
But that's why I try to take things as they
are and just have fun. And that's why with with
that whole the song situation, my point with leading back
to sports was I feel like, so I said, Okay,
that is weird that all these people are singing that
song and like enjoying it like that kind of makes
me side eyed because I'm like, yo, why are all
these people calling you that? Like that's insane. So then
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when Drake's album comes out and I'm I'm bopping to
Nokia like everybody everybody on Nokia, They're like, I thought
you was ov. Oh, let's get this right right now.
I don't have any sort of undying loyalty to any
person I've never met.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Before, are you, Guys? They do not? Are you?
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Like I'm going to when something's ugly, I'm gonna say
I think it's ugly and and and guess what if
I think Meghan the Stallion's dress last night was ugly,
She's just an example. I love that girl. If I
think her dress last night was ugly, and I also
think her dress next week is beautiful. That's okay, Like
I can change my mind. And it's the same thing
with sports. If I think that, you know, maybe people
would want to play for Indiana because they're killing it
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during free agency, but I also think that, you know,
their fans can be a little racist and a little
out of hand. Sometimes those are okay, like' but I
do want to mention as far as hate is concerned
online hate and everybody being negative, I feel like I
know Labron probably experiences hate to a high degree because
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if I experience hate, I can only imagine what Labron.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
I think people also need to think about that your
little hate bubble? Do you think you have think about
When I have my little moments of like, oh why
is everybody be mean? I quite literally just think of
Lebron James and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
You know what, right or anybody beyond so Drake. But
one person I really think about is I think the
only person I can think of in sports who really
has a hay train on them that I feel like
it's unfair and unnecessary is Angel Reese.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
That it's discussed, girl, it's absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
I have never seen anything like it. It's crazy sports
and entertainment. I have never seen anything like her comment
section or my comment section when I post about her,
so I can only imagine Riyah.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
I had a video of me on my TikTok people,
it's still up there.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
I was in a workout. It was like a ten
second clip of me in a training session.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
If anybody wants to see me playing basketball, it's on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
I don't put basketball stuff on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
I'll put pictures on Instagram, but workout videos, highlights.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
That's all on TikTok. Like I put that over.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
There, she does.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
I had a video of me working out, and usually,
like I love my followers and supporters. They're very they
love when I hoop, like and I appreciate y'all, Like
y'all literally got me back on the court because everyone
that follows me and supports me started when I was younger,
playing at Dude, playing at Maryland. Like, they know I
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can hoop, So I've always appreciated that about them. So
whenever I put up basketball content, it's overwhelmingly positive, right,
overwhelmingly positive. So sometimes if I need a little pick
me up, let me drive a little basketball picture. Let
me drop a little basketball video because I know, like y'all.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Gonna make me feel good. I put up this video
and it was just negative, negative, negative, negative, eggave.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
And I was just like, it was just me shooting
jump shots, which like, it's not cat like that's the thing.
Sometimes players will post something and they'll be like, that's
not even how you. That's not even you. This is
not how you play. All I gotta do is shoot
post a little shooting video. It's cool because people, I'm valid,
I'm stamped as a shooter. So I was getting all
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of these negative comments, and I was just like, what
is going on here? Why are y'all being so mean
to me? On TikTok, I.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Thought I was Angel Rees I mean and shout out
to Angel.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
We always talk about her, all of them, all the
w players, the.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Rookies, everybody. We love y'all.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
But my entire comment section for that particular video thought
I was Angel and they were so mean, and I
was just like.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
That's why I'm like when she cried in that postgame interview,
I believe it was I think when LS the last
heard and.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
She was sexualizing me.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
I That's why I literally have stamped myself as the
Angel Reese defense attorney on TikTok. I like, she could
be wrong and I'm an opportuny. I don't fit it
because that's gonna get clipped and they're going to use
that against me. Lord help me. But anyways, because I
think that the hate that she gets is so forced
and so.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Very unwarranted, and she's a kid.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Also, I want to mention for all of you. I
think there's this and we could probably do a whole
episode on just this particular topic. But when it comes
to being a woman and things that women get criticized
for that men don't i e. Body image, i e.
Being sexualized, things like that. When Angel says something like
I'm constantly being sexualized and then she puts on something
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sexy and y'all say, see, you want to be sexualized.
There's a difference between being sexy and being complimented and
you know, appreciating a woman then sexualizing her and being
weird and being ode like and not. I see that
come with the WNBA players all the time. It's like
this weird like y'all want y'all They want y'all to
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be sexy because that makes them able to appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
A page, right, but then you are sexy and now stop.
But I'm just like okay. The happy medium between that
is be yourself.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Yeah, like wow, that's a word.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Don't pander to what people want you to be or
don't want you to be. If you are just simply
you and people have an opinion about it, it's not
going to bother you. Like for me, for example, I
remember being in high school and college like posting bathing
suit photos and photos with your shirt like that was
it was, no, don't do it, you cannot do it.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
And I feel like.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
As a young girl, you probably shouldn't, Like you shouldn't
probably put pictures up in your bathroom in your bikini. Now,
if you're at the beach, if you're at the pool,
do whatever you want. That's just how I was raised.
And if just if you do something differently, I don't
judge you. I don't think you're a bad person, but like,
there are societal norms that you have to kind of
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think about when you put something out there to be consumed,
And that circles back to what we were talking about,
when you put something out there to be consumed and
commented on it's gonna be consumed and commented on. But negative,
overwhelming negativity is insane. But I remember I didn't really
get comfortable posting on my socials, like posting on game days,
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posting night before games. I didn't really get comfortable with
that until maybe like five years ago. Like, yeah, there's
certain things like even as a professional athlete, you're always
constantly thinking like, oh, this person's gonna look this person's
that's things that people that are not athletes. I don't
have a front office, I don't have a GM that
don't have brands and sponsors looking at you. They don't
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have to think about stuff like that. But I agree
with you, the hate that she gets is insane. And
once I realized that the comments were not to me,
I I didn't like my feelings weren't hurt because I
was like, these are they they don't think this is
like they're not commenting about me. But I've seen her comments.
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I've seen things that people say to her, and I've
always had a lot of empathy and I've always felt
really bad about that because what are you y'all?
Speaker 2 (44:06):
What are y'all doing?
Speaker 3 (44:08):
But once I saw that in my comment section, it
like it was like a switch was flipped in my brain,
Like this is what she sees this every day, every hour,
doing something that she loves. She's literally leveling up in
every aspect of her life. Whether y'all like it or not,
it's happening. That was like it was like it was
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like mind altering, Like I would.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Have to switch my comments, like that is a power
move from her because I would have to switch my
comments to the only people I follow the comment. There
is no way I would be able to sit and
look at that all the time and keep my head
high the way that she does. And that's another reason
I think that this is so important and what we're
talking about with coverage is so important because I feel
like a lot of shows think that they're checking off
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their WNBA coverage box by talking about whatever Angel Reese
is doing this that may not be about what she
wore on Wilden Out or something like grown assmen on
Sports Network television talking about what Angel rees wore on
Wilden Out. Y'all are weird. That is not covering women's basketball.
That is weird, and that is sexualizing her.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
And even if it's positive, it's weird.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
We are professional athletes.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Cover the sport, and if you don't, if you want
to talk about how certain players play, talk about how
certain players play. Again, there is a respectful and analytical
way to talk about players positively and negatively.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Everything that everybody says now.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
That I'm seeing, I'm like again, I'm so happy we're
doing this show, especially when the W season starts, because
however I'm playing, however the Storm is playing wherever we're at, Like,
we're gonna talk about where we are as a team,
We're going to talk about stats, we're gonna talk about analytics,
we're gonna talk about other teams. We're gonna get into
it because it is so verely lacking. And I thought
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after the college season, after how amazing the W season was,
it was going to.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Improve, and it has gotten worse. I didn't think it
could get worse. Have you heard.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
Anything about women's college basketball this year anywhere?
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Really?
Speaker 1 (46:18):
Not well, not really outside of Juju, And even with Juju,
it's still very minimal.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Like I have been in complete disbelief of the coverage
of the women's college game this year, because yes, there's
not a Kaitlin Clark, there's not an Angel Reese, there's
not that rivalry right now. But there is some very
good basketball being played by a lot of players, and
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it's just being kicked to the side, and I'm just like,
I don't understand it. Like, for example, this is a
perfect example. Hailey Vanlyth her redemption arc this year has
been incredible, absolutely amazing. They just won the Big twelve
title at tc freaking U. Like no one is checking
(47:10):
for TCU. Haley van Lidt gets there, she turns it
around like, y'all don't have nothing to say.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Okay, let me ask you a question. This is coming
around fair weather.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
But I am okay, I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
I don't know TCU has given me. Y'all should be
y'all should be grown.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Like you know, they're old. They got a lot of old.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
They got a lot of.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
They do, but so do the man. Hey, they do
that too. That's how college should be. That's what I'm saying.
It's so funny. It's like people are like, she's in
her fourth fifth year. Yes she is.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
I know y'all are used to twelve year olds being
the league in the NBA, but like, no, like there
was a time where whole championship teams were like twenty two,
twenty three, twenty four.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
No, I'm not you know about about fourth about old.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
They are old. But again, so you better win, you.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
Better win, you better win, you better win. Imagine you're
leaving your walking home from a geography class and you
know you have to guard a twenty.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Seven year old.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
I remember my senior year of college. I was like,
get I'm done. I was twenty three, Get me out
of here. The fact that these girls and guys stay
in college as long as they do. Hey, get your degree,
I'm all for it, trust me, get all the degree money, Yeah,
get all you can get from these schools because they
do not care about you.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
I'm there, I'm here for that.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
But yes, you're twenty nine in college. You better win
every game you play. You better dominate every game you play.
But the fact that everybody had so much to say
about Hayley at LSU, and that was not a good
decision for her as a fit fit wise, I don't
think her game changed at all. It just wasn't a
(49:04):
good fit. And that happened sometimes. She bet on herself
and went to TCU. Probably got some money over there.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Good for you.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
And she's been killing crickets I'm just like again, the rage, baiting,
the negativity. Why does everything have to be negative? Like, yes,
y'all had, y'all got, y'all licks in on her. Trust me,
I remember the memes. I remember it all.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
But now she's turned it around and y'all have nothing
to say. That is the thing about media I don't like.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
Agreed, It's okay when you are presented with new information,
your opinion can change.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
That's fine, and that's I think a lot of people
are scared of that.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
But because it's because people are so disrespectful, like they
like cross the boundary, like you, there's like a point
in our return. That's how I feel about my WNBA career.
So many people cross the boundary, so they just got
to stay over there. And it's okay because I know
that I I've never changed who I am and my
work ethic never changed. But the fact that people are
(50:04):
just overly disrespectful off rip. Then, yeah, you get presented
with new information, you really can't come back actually because
you were so insane.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
That's what I'm gonna say that On.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
The first side, like people don't really give media that's
unfortunate the opportunity to change their minds, because it's like
if you say, I've said before that I think that
Kevin Durant's career is forever going to be saying by
the fact that he went to Golden State, I don't
care what he does, I don't care where he goes.
I'm not saying I don't think he's a great basketball
player whatever, but that narrative is going to follow him
(50:38):
for the rest of his career until he retires. It's
just the truth. Sorry, But the point is that doesn't
mean I can't say some like positive things about him
or acknowledge when he is doing well, or acknowledge when
he's doing great. And I think that even I like
am going to take more responsibility on doing that because,
for example, if you made a Haley band lit joke
or meme, or if you are a media member and
I'm not just talking about people on social media who
(50:59):
are like kids in their room getting their back off
of like clickbait and make a memes like whatever, do
what you want, but the people on television, like if
you made fun of her when she was getting dusted
by or whatever, all the memes like, then you need
to cover the fact that she's doing well. Now that
needs that needs to also come up. That's responsible about.
Speaker 3 (51:15):
It exactly, that's responsible media coverage.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
That she was doing bad before, she's doing great now.
You had so much to say before, you.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
Had clearly you have things to say, so say say
it now.
Speaker 3 (51:31):
So that yeah, again, as an athlete with grievances, since
we all have grievances, that for me, that has always
been my biggest issue with how sports are covered is that, Yes, criticism,
I get it, that's how we're built where you have
thick skin.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Trust me, we have thick skin.
Speaker 3 (51:52):
But when there's good things going on, talk about those
two y'all. People were shitting on Steph Curry all season
because the Warriors were horrible. They're not they're still not
winning a championship, and that's okay, but they've turned it
around a bit.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
They've turned it around.
Speaker 3 (52:10):
He had fifty six points, right mm hmm, and they're like,
we're not gonna on.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
The same day. It's like his day.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
I saw it on Twitter, like he's had like whatever
day that date that was.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
He's had like.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
Career games three straight years. Like that's fun to talk about.
Like it's like there's no way that people go into
work every day, go to write, Go sit on their
little computers and type up a story that y'all it
brings y'all joy to talk so negatively about everybody all
the time.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
Like, I don't know, it's like psych.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
Later, But I'm really cited about seventy six ers.
Speaker 3 (52:49):
We have our we have our producers on the show
right now, Zoe and Grace, like, don't, don't. We're not
whether I'm having a great season or an okay season,
You're not gonna stop making episodes Like no, George.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
I feel very bad. You gotta. I've taken that for
him because.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
He stopped making his shows because again, I because when
they started losing.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
I I'm like an investigator.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
I actively went to his YouTube page and his podcast
pee page to look at the comments and the way
people were speaking to him and about him about basketball
on his little podcast baby that he loves like it's
a hobby. We've been on what this for an hour?
(53:44):
One hour once a week, Like that's how long podcasts take, guys.
Like the way people were speaking to that man online
and just ruining this outlet that he created for himself.
It upset me because I'm like, y'all, don't know what
else he has going on in his life. Y'all just
(54:04):
see the basketball thing, and I'm just like, I don't
like that. He had to be like, I'm going to
take a break from this because I need to focus
on basketball, like.
Speaker 1 (54:15):
And I hate people are dumb. He has he is
Paul George. There is a whole media machine behind that
podcast that is like planning the episodes and editing the
episodes whatever. He sits down for an hour once a
week and talks. That's it.
Speaker 3 (54:31):
In his hotel room on the road when he's not
doing anything anyway. So I mean, and I follow his
producer on Instagram. We follow each other, and I asked him.
I genuinely asked him. I said, is it a problem?
You think it is problematic for players to have podcasts
in season? And he said, it depends on the player,
that's all he said.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
And I was.
Speaker 3 (54:54):
I said, all right, We're up for the challenge, Mariah,
because we full Circle will be in full effect the
entire w season, no matter what is going on.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
I don't care what nobody says.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
We in here and I will be asked and I listen,
y'all you better know that. That's why I'm here, I'm
gonna ask Lexi the questions. She may decline to answer them,
but I will be asking yes.
Speaker 3 (55:15):
So anything at all, things, WNBA College, whatever, y'all can
find it here on the Full Circle podcast.
Speaker 2 (55:22):
This was an amazing episode. I love it. We still
turns up from Nashville.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
Let's end on a positive note, and let's each say
like one positive thing about the sports world that we
want the audience to take away.
Speaker 3 (55:38):
The one oh this will be We'll give We'll give flowers.
I was giving a flower to Haley van Lit. Haley
van Lit gets a flower, and then I'm going to
give flowers to Athletes Unlimited for putting together an amazing
fourth season. We had a great time. It was amazing.
Everyone had a blast. And this is my family and
I love it here. I love it here.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
As far as my flowers, I want to give them
to two medium members because I feel like the media
has been getting thrashed good. But I want to give
my flower one to l Duncan, who I absolutely adore.
Like for all the reasons I said before. I think
that she can be critical and funny and also very
responsible in the way she covers things. Girl Dad iconic.
(56:20):
And then number two. I want to give a flower
to cheneaum Okay because the way that she talked about
what you've been talking about this whole episode, and athletes
and how they get insulted and what their problem is
with the coverage of sports. The way that she articulated
it really changed my mind about it because I felt
a little attack on my theat I was like, what
(56:42):
the hell y'all want us to say? Then I say
that yep, And then I watched Shane's take and I said, Oh,
she read me like Goaden me all the way out,
and I think that she Both of those women need
to be on every billboard, every television station, every show
like they're so talented.
Speaker 3 (56:58):
No, we love them el Cheney, Hayley, Van Liz at
least unlimited.
Speaker 2 (57:04):
We love y'all.
Speaker 3 (57:05):
This was an amazing episode of Full Circle Podcast and
we will see y'all next week.
Speaker 1 (57:10):
Bye. Thanks for listening to Full Circle. We'll be back
next week with more basketball for the Girls by the girls.
We want to hear from you. Leave us a review
on Apple Podcasts and tell us what you want us
to talk about. Full Circle is hosted by a Lexi
Brown and Mariah Rose. Our executive producer is Jesse Katz.
Our supervising producer is Grace Fuse. Our producer is Zoe Danklab.
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