2015 Sprint Cup Championship with Kyle Busch | Homestead-Miami Speedway - Games with Names

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You had a marsha On Lynch interview moment. Remember watching that?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Yeah, and you were wearing Skittles. Yeah, was that like
a plan thing? Yes, that's why, that's why I did.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
That's that's all.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
That's a ball, no ball. I love you, that's right.
You know football Marshawn and I actually we did. We
did a helmet swap.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
I gave him my Skittles helmet and he gave me
a Seahawks helmet. You ever meet him? Yeah? Yeah, he's awesome. Yeah,
he's super cool. Yeah. I haven't met a football guy
I haven't liked, honestly, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I haven't met a NASCAR guy that I haven't liked.
Who should I meet that I won't like? Welcome to
Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman, They're Jack and Kyler,
and we are on a mission to finding the greatest
game of all time. And on today's episode, we are
covering the twenty fifteen ford Eco Boost four hundred from

(00:48):
Homestead with two time NASCAR Sprint Cup champion the man
we call Rowdy in NASCAR legend, Kyle Busch, and we're
talking the greatest comeback story in NASCAR history.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
When you're laying in the hospital bed there and your
mind's going through like I'm never gonna race again, like
my career is over.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Pumping into me at a pace car.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Hey man, you gotta give the guy the full treatment
of what's going on out there. I gotta feel some
bumping and some.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Banging, and then the infamous rowdy persona saying things I
probably shouldn't have said and running into people I probably
shouldn't have been running into.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
From that day on, I was I was public Enemy number.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
One, and then we hit the scariest athletes of all time.
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Speaker 4 (01:50):
November twenty second, twenty fifteen, Homestead Miami Speedway, Homestead, Florida.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Four hundred miles, two hundred and sixty seven laps, one
championship on the line, A season that started in the
hospital bed.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
That would eventually end in victory Lane.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
This is getting Rid in Miami, presented by The Comeback
to Bleep. All Right, guess sir, I'm the biggest NASCAR

(02:36):
name you got. Let's fucking go. Yeah, let's go. Welcome
to games with names. Today, we are looking at the
twenty fifteen ford Eco Boost four hundred Homestead Miami Speedway race.
The legend himself Denver Broncos fan, but legend legend Bush

(03:01):
Kyle her in one sentence, why did you pick this race?

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Why did I pick this race? This is the twenty
fifteen championship race. So of all of the races that
you have in twenty fifteen, it all culminates and comes
down to the final one. It's that Game seven moment.
It's one race, winner take all, and it was me
against four other compadres out there, and we won, and
we went. We brought on the championship. We brought it home. Baby. Yeah,

(03:27):
you're wearing it right here on the right side of
your heat.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, right there, baby. And we'll get into it. But
is this the greatest race of all time?

Speaker 3 (03:35):
No? No, no, no, I'm not no. What is what
is the greatest race of all time? That's debatable. I
mean I think that off for you, of my races
or of NASCAR, NASCAR, I would say the most historic
race that probably meant the most to our sport. Besides
like the I think it was the sixty nine Daytona

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five hundred where the guys fought in the infield like
they wrecked each other, come to the checker flag and
then they got in the fight, which put us on
the map. You know, that made NASCAR like, oh, who
the heck.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Are these he'll billy's fighting each other, he'll billy's fighting
each other.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
I just said it. I did, I did, but you
read my mind. So see we're in tune. Besides that one,
I would say the nineteen ninety eight Daytona five hundred
with Dale Earnhardt winning. So he was twenty years of trying,
twenty years of aggravation and everything and not being able
to win that race to finally being able to win
that race. And so that was a huge moment for

(04:30):
our sport because when that race was over, as he
was coming down Pitt Lane, like all every member of
every team was sitting out there on Pitt Road like
high five of them and you know, giving him a
congratulations of the win and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
You don't see that anymore of these days. No, you
don't know that. That's awesome. Yeah, I love Dylan, right,
I mean I don't. I wasn't like a big race head.
But everyone knew Dale Earnhardt.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Everybody knows Dale Earnhart.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
You know, just like everyone knows you, Kyle Busch A
little bit, A little bit, I would say, for sure,
in my generation of being a professional athlete, you were
probably the most famous racer of my time, of your time. Yeah, okay,
well I appreciate that good one thousand percent. And you
know it was funny because you got your first championship
in fifteen this year first, that's right. And I got

(05:16):
my first in fourteen and we met it, huh, which was.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Fifteen, Yeah, February fifteen. February fifteen, so you beat me
to it because I was November.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
But we got our shit done in the same time, yes,
popping the same time. And we did meet each other
at the New Hampshire Speedway, that's right, you remember.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
That I did. Well, I might have met you before that,
but you probably.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Well, you were at it, you were at one of
our practices. But you were kind of a big name
and I wasn't a big name yet. Yeah, you were too,
big time dude, bull shit? What ever?

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Now, I was at Patriot State, Gillette City and Patriots
Stadium hanging out and watching some games and stuff like that.
We had, we had some some friends, We had copin
you know, kle Welker and all that sort of stuff.
So I was around a little bit during that time
when I was able to first come to UH Stadium
and then hanging out with the Craft guys Jonathan and Robert,
and they took us around and whatnot. We were hanging

(06:06):
out in their suite watching some games and then you know,
down into you know locker room post game stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
I remember that, yeah, But when when we met in
freaking New Hampshire. First you let me into your trailer
and we went over all the angles, the drive angles
of the pictures. You were going over pictures in a
book like a thousand pictures and you no, no, no.
I asked you, what the fuck are you doing, dude?
He goes, well, right here, I'm looking at the angle
how the cars pitched against the pitch of this and

(06:34):
if it's not parallel, you know, we don't like it. Yeah,
and you just go over these pictures. I was like, man,
what the fuck? And so I thought we were kind
of cool because you let me in. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Then I get out to start the race in a
Toyota Camry regular stock suspension fucking thing car pace car,
pace car, pace car, not in a race car, not
in a race car, the pace car. We wouldn't let
you in a race car, No, they wouldn't. But I'm
driving this thing and it's it's kind of weird. It's squirrely,
you know what I mean. I gotta go forty six.
You can't go over. The guy who won the fucking

(07:06):
the poles that week was Kyle.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
So Kyle's right behind me.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
What what does what does won the poll mean? When
winning the polls?

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Are you in all the races, in the the pre
races to show where you are in in the race.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
He's no, he's lost. It's time t Yeah, we qualified.
So everybody qualifies. You get one lap, how fast can
you go? And then that's how you set the field.
That's how you set the grid for where you qualify
for the race. So I qualified first. So he was
on the pole.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
He qualified first. He was on the pole. That a boy.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, burbage, we got it. Yeah, that's what I like.
That's what we're here.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
We're trying to get nascard and uh this this guy
starts bumping me. Yeah, he starts bumping me, and I'm
sitting next to the guy and goes, oh, Kyle, he'll
bump you. I go, he's hitting me.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
He goes, nah, he ain't hitting you. He's bumping you.
That's right.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
And I felt like it was fucking I was in
days of thunder. I was cold, trick or you're fucking rowdy.
That's right, because you are rowdy. Yeah, so what was
up with that? Bro?

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Hey man? You got to give the guy the full
treatment of what's going on out there. You know, you
can't just be by yourself making laps at forty six
miles an hour. You got to feel some bumping and
some banging. Here he is right there, Yeah, exactly. Oh
my god. I was in my Interstate Batteries Zebra scheme
that day. That was looking at that. Jimmy Johnson right there,
Tony Stewart right there. Yeah, top dogs all smoke. Yeah,

(08:23):
beat them all. We beat them all.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Now, it's been fun to watch you over your career
because you were kinda the guy was an asshole. Let's
just just fucking put it out there. I was an
asshole in the field, was still in Yeah, but like
you were, guy, And then you've kind of turned into
like the Eldersman, Yeah, a little bit, and you've kind
of calmed down what's going on with that.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Well, so when I was in the eighteen car at
Joe Gibbs Racing and all that, you know, we're we're
Hendrick Motorsports is like the Yankees, right, and so Joe
Gibbs Racing is kind of like the Red Sox, I guess,
you know, so like there's some rivalry there. But well,
you know, when you go into the racetrack like you
have a shot to win, You're a legit shot to
win each and every race, like there's no reason why

(09:07):
you should lose. If you lose, you pretty much beat yourself, right,
And so in that era, like me going to the
racetrack like I'm hard headed, like I'm passionate, I'm driven,
like I want to win and I want to win
in every single one and if I don't win, I'm
pissed off about it, you know. And so now I'm
with Richard Schulder's Racing, you know, a lower tier team,
lower than JGR not going to say the bottom, but

(09:28):
just lower, and so your expectations are just a little
bit less, Like we want to win. You know, you
still want to carry yourself. You want to get to
victory lane, you want to hoist trophies, you want to
celebrate with your team, But those are a little bit
further between each win, you know, so your expectations change
a little bit. But yeah, the jgr era, you're you're
going to be a hot head when you don't win.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
You're also younger, younger, you're younger, yeah, you know, you know,
we've learned, you learn over time. Sometimes it's just it
just burns too much energy. You don't even want to
give the energy out. There is a lot of that.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
When you get hit by somebody or wrecked by somebody,
it's like, you know, it shouldn't happen a whole lot,
and it shouldn't happen from the same guy a whole lot,
but it tends to. And so it's just like gosh,
man like, sooner or later, hopefully this dumb ass figures
it out.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, no, I can only imagine it's kind of like
in for us, it'd be like in practice, you know,
not a game. But if a guy brings you to
the ground in practice, is this guy being reckless?

Speaker 3 (10:25):
For right?

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Where the fuck? Why are you putting me in the wall, bro,
it's fucking practice. We're supposed to have fast tempo thud.
We're not supposed to put each other on the fuck
a wall. Right, Yeah, there's rules racing, that's right. So
there's that driver code. There's that there's that unspoken quiet
driver code that you're supposed to have with one another,
you know, and you're supposed to be out there and

(10:46):
racing hard, competition, bumping, banging a little bit, rubbin's racing, right,
But reckon ain't reckon ain't. Yeah, give us, give us
a couple more of these like race codes, because it's
like baseball code. You know, baseball, you can't fucking hit
the guy. You can't do this, you look wrong, you
toss a bat, you're getting hit. What are some of
these race codes?

Speaker 3 (11:05):
I think just flat out deliberate, purposeful running over somebody
is like that's like that's like a no, you know,
and eventually, at some point, you know, you get run
over by that guy. And drivers are like elephants. We
got memories of elephants, Like, we're gonna remember everything. So
the next time you're around that guy, you're gonna you're
gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Back to them, you know, you got to I mean, yeah,
I can't imagine having someone bump you out, take you
out your day, and then you gotta go see him afterwards.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Like, well, you don't have to go see him afterwards,
you just see him at the next race.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
You see him in the next race. Yeah, and then
you smoke him there, try to. Yeah. Yeah, take us
through a work week of a NASCAR driver in the preparation,
So I would.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Say, Monday's is Meeting's Monday, right, So like we have
a Chevy group driver meeting where we're all hanging out
and talking about our race weekend of what was good,
what was bad, what was the positives the day gave
is what made us win or finished top five versus
some of the guys that struggled and didn't run very well,
you know. So then the crew chiefs can kind of
get a sense of what those drivers were fighting that

(12:09):
weren't very good or what the guys that were good
were doing, and what that what was in their race car,
the setup and stuff was in their race car that
made them good. So that's a lot of that on Mondays.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
And then.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Tuesdays you kind of go over the next race plan
and what's gonna happen for the next race. Some of
your things that you want to do Wednesdays is typically
like my simulator day. So I'll go in the simulator
for three hours, four hours, five hours, whatever it might
be on that week and get in there so we
have real I mean they're like five or six or
seven million dollars simulators. You like, it's a real You're

(12:45):
in a real cockpit in a real car, and it's
on actuators and it's moving and stuff, and there's a
screen one hundred and eighty degree screen that you're looking
at and you're going through different setup stuff and trying
to work through what's gonna make your car faster for
that coming up race.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
You do the simulators feel like the actual car? Do
they have?

Speaker 3 (13:02):
No, they're not one hundred percent. Like there's a lot
of times where it feels really really close, and it's
like okay, and you get to the racetrack and it's like, damn,
sim was really on this week? Like that, it's good,
you know, let's go through all those notes what's going
to make us better here? And there's some weeks where
you're like sim wasn't even closed, Like we got to
throw everything we did on Wednesday out. Don't even pay
any attention to it.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
It's kind of like an earning card, guys. Yeah, the
earning cards were off this fucking week. Yeah, we didn't
get any of those looks.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
So, like, sim is so much more important this day
and age because we don't have the practice that we
used to. So back in my high time, when I
was winning races four, five, ten of a year or whatever,
we had an hour of practice and then we qualified.
Then we'd have two more hours before the race started.
Now you literally show up and you have a twenty
minute practice session and then you go qualify and then

(13:48):
you race. Like that's it is?

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Why is that they they change it for gas and
all that racing cost, cost cost.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
They say it's a cost saving measure. They're trying to
save the team's money. So we're not out there just
burning up engines and tires and gas and everything else,
you know, So it's it's saving the team's money, saving
the cars in the sim Yeah. Yeah, you can simulate weather,
you can simulate temperature of ambient temperatures, you can simulate
track temperatures, how hot the track will be if there's

(14:16):
overcast obviously track will be less versus full sun. You
can do wind. Wind is a big deal, So yeah,
you can do it Windows.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
It's Saint the Cruising USA machine at David Buster.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
No, it ain't the head. I wish it was that easy.
I went on that damn thing all the time. Let's go,
you know, we got one, Let's go.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
They have these guys that just write sims that have
come into racing, haven't things.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah. William Byron is probably the most successful, most notable
one that I know of, where he grew up as
a fan of the sport, just loved racing, got him
a simulator and was just simmon from seven years old
whatever it was. And the first time he made it
into a race car he was thirteen, running like a
Legends car or something like that. And then he made

(14:56):
it to late models and ARCA and trucks and Inxfinity
and Cup. So he made his way all the way
up through. But he started just on the computer, just
on I Racing or the sim or whatever. You know,
that's fucking scene. Yeah. Yeah. So and his family, like
his dad is a is a financial advisor. You know,
he's a money guy. So like he didn't come from
a background of racing where my dad, he's a huge

(15:18):
car guy. So like we're always in the garage, like
we're tinkering with cool cars, Like my dad handbuilt five
you know, cool cars. When I was a kid, Like
he had a nineteen thirty two Ford Coop, he had
a forty nine Ford seday in the car truck. What
is the car truck?

Speaker 2 (15:34):
El Camino.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yes, he had an cool El Camino back in the day,
you know. So, yeah, he had all kinds of little,
cool old cars. But then he was an amateur racer.
On Saturdays, he'd go to the short tracks across Uh. Well,
he grew up in Chicago, Illinois, but then he didn't
really race until he moved to to Nevada. Las Vegas
is where I'm from, and so he was just an
amateur racer out there and just kind of brought up

(15:55):
my brother and I threw the scene of racing locally
in Vegas.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Wow. Yeah, and you start with like the little sprint
cars or like the little goat cars, the shifter cars
and all that shit.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Right, Yeah, that's a lot of a lot of kids nowadays.
There's more things for kids to race now than there
was when I was coming up through So my first
thing that I got into was a Legends car and
I was thirteen, same as William, but like I played
the NASCAR video games on Papyrus, you know, like I
had my own little computer with the little pedals and
steering wheels. So like that's what I got my start with.

(16:26):
Sort of similar to William, but you know, I still
came up from my dad of working in the garage.
Like my dad had race cars, my brother had race cars,
and I'm eight nine, ten years old figuring out how
to work on them with my hands and tools and stuff.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
So do you are you one of the drivers that
knows the car?

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah, I'm one of those guys.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, because it isn't. I mean, Cole Trickle didn't know
the fucking car.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
No, coldon know very much about the car, but uh
he was able to wheel it hard and get some wins. Yeah. Yeah,
that's my dad's mechanics.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
So I grew Upah, I grew up around the cars, okay,
but he didn't want me in the car.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Is he like a dealership mechanic? No, I don't. Over
just a Twilve shop. So my dad was a was
a dealership mechanic. So he worked in a dealership and
then he kind of got tired of that scene a
little bit, but then became a Mac tool man, so
he was the Mac tool distributor. So he was the
guy that rode the routes and sold tools some day.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
One all the time. Him and the snap on guy. Yeah, oh, Larry, Yeah, Larry,
let me get it. Let me get a lug nute
over here, dude. Yeah, Tom the tool Man, Tom the
tool Man.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Now, it's so crazy how it's changed. Like I can't
believe we talk about your your week of preparation. You're
in the sim most of the days. Back in the day,
you're racing a lot that's got to be crazy. You're
like a legend that's played through multiple eras. What's something
if you were head of NASCAR right now that you
would change, because you mean, just in general, rule this

(17:51):
that like that drives you nuts because you've seen it
where it was, and we all products of older environments
always think it's a little so after with the newer environment,
at least in our sport. I don't know, is there
something like that that pisses you off about NASCAR?

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Now?

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (18:07):
The thing that kind of has deterred me. I guess
the most over the last couple of years is we've
gone to this new next gen race car. It's our generate,
it's our seventh generation of a NASCAR car, and it's
a kit car, so we call it the Walmart car.
Like everybody buys all the same stuff, all the same parts,
all the same pieces from all the same suppliers, and

(18:28):
then they put them together like a kit car. Then
we all go race and so they're supposed to be parody.
And in the first year with this car there was
there was like sixteen or eighteen different winners. Now there's
not like now that the big teams, the cream always
rises to the top. So like the Hendrick guys, the
Gibbs guys, and the Penske guys. Those Hendrick is the
top Chevy team, Gibbs is the top Toyota team, Penske's

(18:49):
the top four team. Those three teams are the ones
that are winning all the races now, so the lower
teams aren't really winning, you know, like we don't really
have the advantages of the forty or fifty or one
hundred engineers at the shop that are figuring out the
little gray areas that you can kind of work in
they'll kind of stay cheating, But basically you're working towards that, yeah,

(19:11):
and making these things go faster. And so there's just
a lot of really smart people at those teams that
make their cars faster.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
What are some of the gray areas that these guys
take advantage on? Like, how if we're we got all
the same parts and the same shit.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Yeah, how are some faster? You bend some parts, You
manipulate the parts. When you build your car, you kind
of change You buy them from the shelf, you bring
them off the shelf, and then you kind of mold
them and change them and heat them up and twist
them and bend them a little bit in to where
they still conform to the general speck of the car.
And you don't get busted forward in tech until NASCAR

(19:45):
catches on to it. Once Nascar kind of finds something
that you're doing, they'll they'll strip it away from me
and they'll make a new rule whenever they want.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
It's like, you know, the brotherly shove, Yeah, yeah, we
got to take that shit out. Yeah, these fucking guys
are breaking bending the rules.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Is there any advantages in cleats like y'all have any
like special cheater up cleats or anything like that that
guys could no, but you.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Can't wear like you can't wear like weaponry, like the
gronk thing. I think like that's gotten outlawed. He remember
he used to wear the big brace.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
I remember. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Like they they they do, like they have a fine guy.
So when you come off the field after your pregame
warm up, there's a guy that finds you from the
league or comes comes to you and say, all right,
your your socks are too low, your thigh pads aren't
in your your jersey has to be like this. If
you don't change it, we're gonna find you. Okay, so
you get a chance to fix it. We get a

(20:37):
chance to fix gotcha. Ok we get a chance to
fix Yeah. That's kind of like us.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Like if you're caught with something in post race tech
or whatever, they'll if it's a big, big deal, they'll
they'll say, no, this ain't right. You're getting fined, and
you know, big deal. They'll make a big deal out
of it. But a lot of times it's kind of
like a slap on the wrist, like hey, you know,
don't bring that back.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Don't bring it back. But what about that Sunday you
can use it that sunday.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
You got away with it on this one. You got
one by us this time.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
I mean you gotta get one by you gotta get
one that's the old school Nascar, like, that's the cool stuff.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
So you're the new car. You can't really do all
this that. That's one thing that I would change is
like going back a little bit to the old school
way of how the cars were made and built by
the teams. You know, like you look at F one
right now and you see like McLaren now has an
advantage where it used to be Mercedes and long time
ago it used to be Ferrari. And you know, you
got these guys come with up with these new trickeries

(21:27):
that then they get to use and exploit throughout the season.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
You know.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
And so in NASCAR, back in the day when teams
were building all their own cars, they would one team
might say, hey, we know, if we make a badass chassis,
like that's gonna take us to wins. You know, somebody
else might think, hey, if we make a badass body
and we make more downforce with aerodynamics than somebody, that's
gonna be our advantage. You know, some guys would be like, Hey,
we're gonna put it all in the motors and we're

(21:52):
gonna build bigger motors than everybody else, and that's gonna
win us races.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Now it's just it's it's not harder, it's way harder. Yeah,
it's kind of like being a criminal nowadays.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
It's harder. Dude.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Cameras everybody, all the drones, the fucking everything's on cameras.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
There's cameras everywhere.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
There's no mob guys no more, because it's too hard
to be a fucking criminal.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Yeah, big brother man, Big brother bro.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, come on a little fun man.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah. So do you watch F one a little bit? Yeah? Yeah,
I watch it. Could you think you could take those guys?
I think everybody has their their niche, their craft that
makes them good at what they do. Right, So like
NASCAR drivers, you've got to be good at going four
hours inches apart from one another, some bumping, some banging,
things like that, drafting at the drafting tracks. We have
the most i would say, diverse set of drivers of

(22:40):
any other form of motorsports out there. Drag race guys
they go straight right. F one guys they do road
course only NASCAR, we do. We do super speedway ovals,
we do short track ovals, intermediate ovals, high bank ovals,
flat no banking ovals, and then we.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Right, you remember you talking about that.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
And then we all also had we used to have
a dirt track on the schedule. We've got road courses
on the schedule. Watkins Glenn is like a really fast
we call it the super Speedway of road courses. And
then you've got Sonoma, which is really really slow road course,
which is like the short track of road courses. And
then you also have street courses as well, where we've
raced in Chicago, streets of.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Chicago, Miami. I know you guys did another one too,
didn't you.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
F one did Miami. Next year, we're coming to a
new one. We're coming to San Diego.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah. Yeah, you did the LA thing. That's what I'm
wearing the coliseum.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Yeah, yeah, we did. That was short short track, Yeah,
very sure. For just yeah, that was more for like,
that's our big that's our first first race of the season,
which is a non points race. It's just kind of
like three it's jam bree. Yeah, it's the week, but
it's the week between NFL cut off and super Bowl
you've got you guys have that media week, that week off.
So that's when we jump back on on the TV

(23:47):
where where it's like, hey, guys, NASCAR's coming back, like yeah,
go ahead and watch your super Bowl. But then we're
back on.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Well, Daytona was right after the super Bowl, that's right,
because I went I started Daytona once.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah, start that bitch up with the green flag. Yeah
you waved it? Oh, I waved it? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Wait?

Speaker 3 (24:02):
What was the number one rule they told you about that?

Speaker 2 (24:04):
They just said wave it. They didn't give me no rules.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
The number one rule is don't drop it. Don't drop it,
don't drop the flag.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
I gotta tell me, I just got a fucking crazy
passing the Super Bowl. I ain't dropping ship, just wet
and all the races. I ain't dropping the dog.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
All right? There you go, man, drop that a little
cow bush and meat. You dropped that rag, And there's
forty cars going by. What do you think's gonna happen?

Speaker 2 (24:25):
They might have to cost you. I know, you get
mad about them cost stick.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Jeez, you probably wore them sticky gloves that you caught
all them balls with. And you come on Hey gray area. Yeah,
we talked about gra.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Area. Yeah, you look like looks like little giants out there,
Like I can't.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
That was so funny.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Stick a remember back in the day, if you were
a nineties football player, they used to use that stuff.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah, because we were kids.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
That's when I was playing Pop Warner and you try
to go get some of that stuff. Hey, get your
yea stick them. Now, if you if you just trained
to be an F one driver, could you go do it?

Speaker 3 (25:07):
You could? Yeah. There's a kid right now who's super talented,
really good come from the road course background, Connor Zilich. Yeah,
and he's actually winning a lot of oval races too.
But he probably if he would have continued down that path,
would have probably had the best shot of being able
to go do F one for an American driver, because
I think he was over in Europe doing some of
that karting stuff a lot, and he kind of got

(25:29):
shown a little bit more of like the NASCAR way, like, hey,
it'll be a little bit easier to come this way
and be successful than to go that way, because I mean,
where we're at, we've got just call it forty of
us that are out there every single week where F
one's like nineteen, you know, there's or twenty whatever it is,
there's not that many.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
But if you win not the poll, if you win
the time there what is it called time trial?

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Time trial? Like you basically win the race, right, No,
not always you just.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Like three times I've won the team in my career.
I'm talking in F one oh f one. Yeah, you
win the if you in the time trial there, you
win the race.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
More times than not. There's not all Yeah, you're not
going to drive from eighth on the grid to win
the race, like that's that's.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Rare, rare.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah, now they but NASCAR, that's that's you. I've won
the poll probably thirty eight times. I bet you of
those thirty eight times, I've probably won the race ten,
you know. But hell I've been more successful starting sixteenth
to twenty fifth and winning races and then starting in
the top ten. You know, I had a good car
that day. That's right. You had a good car with

(26:31):
the angles were right on the fucking track. I make
the car go right for four hundred miles, not just
for the one mile.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Exactly, And that's exactly. You're a big race family, your brother,
you clearly talked about your relationship with your dad, who
was into cars. What's it feel like being a race
dad for yourself now with your kids. Yeah, Brexton, my
son and your little girl. I've seen a tape where
you're in the quad and your little girls. I'm like,
I got it. That's what I gotta do. I gotta
drive next to her on the quad because I get

(27:00):
scared with the golf cart or the goat carts. Okay,
with the little girls out you had to track and
shit for it. Dude out here, you might decapitate him
getting under her car.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
California is very hard to find tracks these days. You know,
they keep getting shut down faster than well, definitely faster
than they're ever getting put up. But yeah, my son's racing.
He's ten years old. He's getting real big into it,
you know. He just everything he's been in he's one,
he's been a national champion and some stuff that he's
racing as well too, So he keeps moving up the ladder.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Next year is a big step for him because a
lot of the racing that he's done so far has
sort of been with kids his age, and so he's
much better than a lot of the kids that are
his age, but next year he's ten right now, he'll
be eleven next year. But he's jumping into cars now
where he's racing against adults. Oh wow, like him and
I are racing against each other, you know as well.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
So far I'm one for one. Yeah, I'm one for one.
We've got our second Battle of the Bushes coming up
in November with we're going to race Legends cars against
each other. That's the car that I first started racing in.
So now he's going to get into that more next year.
But we've got our first race with that coming up
against each other in November, so that'll be cool.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Do you is that your ultimate happiness now is when
you see your kid progressing something now being because I
could see you obviously love your kid. For me, when
I see my little girl work at something and she
you see the progress in something that she does, it's
like holy, that's like, yeah, that's my super Bowl now. Yeah,
it's got to be the same thing. When you're still
racing and you're seeing your little guy he's out here

(28:28):
winning races. I would have been like crying every time.
Oh hell yeah, no, it's it's awesome.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Mom. We got so last year December, there's a huge
race in Tulsa, Oklahoma for the Dirt the Dirt World.
It's micro racing, so like micro sprint cars, mini sprint cars.
And so he was in a junior sprint, which is
the kids class, and so he ran against one hundred
and eight other junior sprint kids and he won the
whole thing, you know, and so like after that one,

(28:55):
I was a little teary eyed because I was like, man,
we spent the whole year traveling the country, running these
these races, and boom. He puts his mind to it
and he's able to go out there and execute and
get the job done.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
So what are a couple of things that you see
from you in his race racing? Has he got anything
or does he have his own style?

Speaker 3 (29:12):
I would say when I was his age, I was
always sort of driving over my head a little bit
and driving over my equipment a little bit, and I'd
spin out some, I might hit the wall some whatever,
you know, stuff like that. But he is very very
good at staying in control of what he's doing and
how he's doing, and yet being able to get good
results and wins doing that, you know. So he's He's

(29:35):
one that I would always like, Hey, there's a hole,
I'm putting myself in there. You know, I'm gonna make
it happen. But he's one where it's like I'm I'm
gonna wait for the hole to develop, and he's gonna
make sure like it's a it's a safe way to
make a pass or make a move.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
He's got more experience on you then a.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Little bit, a little bit, you know, he I think
in his mind. So we told him when he was
kind of beginning, where if you bump a guy and
you knock him out of the way and he spins,
then you're gonna get sent to the back like you're
you know, you get black flagged and you got to
go to the back of the field. So he doesn't
want to get put to the back, and he knows
we've also told him. He knows that all eyes are
on him, right because he's sort of the biggest name

(30:13):
in the most polarizing kid at his age, and so
everybody's looking at what he does. So he he gets like, hey,
a second or a third is going to be better
for me than hey, running over somebody and having that
notoriety going forward that oh, well, Brexton just runs over everybody.
That's why he wins. He's not that way.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Wow. Yeah, that's that's cool. So he's clearly using your experience.
Yeah yeah, I've been here, done this.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
I've been around for a little while, So let me
help you make it a little bit cleaner for yourself
going forward.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
That's got to That's so freaking cool. Yeah, that's the
dream right there. It is, And that's the dream right there,
because I mean racing, that's clearly. It's a fucking legacy sport.
Everyone is. It's very everyone's it's a family sport. Your
families do it. And to have your little guy going
and to see the excitement in the future for him

(31:05):
and if he enjoys it the same way you do,
there's nothing better.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Absolutely. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
That lot of bushes. Baby, I'm hype for this and
I can't wait to see the little fucker up.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, I want to see you, Bob. We tell him
he's got bush blood in him. Man, you got better
than anybody else out there, so use it.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Got I say the same shit to my little girl. Yeah,
but she got you know what blood. You go look
at their dads and look at your dad. We'll be
right back after this quick break. All right, let's go
back into time where the race took place and go
over some pop culture. This race took place around November
twenty second, twenty fifteen. Some of the things popping off

(31:43):
spectrum the The Bond movie was out number one movie.
Are You Bond Spector, Spector Spector, Bond Inspector? Are you
Bond Guy?

Speaker 3 (31:53):
A little bit? Yeah, I don't mind the Bond movies.
They're good. You know you got some those.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
He's got some trick in his cars, yeah, yeah, stuff
that maybe not legal, No, but he always has the
sick car like he's an Aston Martin guy. Yeah, but
I was always an old American car guy. Number one
song Hello by Adele. I thought she was gonna get
the super Bowl this year? Hello?

Speaker 4 (32:16):
Is it me?

Speaker 2 (32:17):
I thought she was gonna get the super Bowl this year.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
They went with yeah with.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Our bad bunny guy babooney. Hey those you get those
new air pods, he'll translate.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
We'll like that.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
You get those new air pods, He'll translate.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Uh, those are great. You know, I haven't had them yet, Like,
do you use them? I'm I'm well, I'm not one
that's gonna go get my nails done or anything like that.
But I saw this lady on Instagram or whatever on
a reel who was like she wore you know, a
set of those and and went to, uh, the nail salon,
And they're probably just and the people that are the
girls that are doing her nails are just like straight
up ship talking her nails and her cuticles and this

(32:51):
and then that.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
That's gonna that's gonna be the ultimate equalizer. Yeah, yeah,
going forward one especial, nail technicians better watch their mouth,
especially for people that marry people that wear other or
other late because I've you know, I've been in some
relationships where the you know, English the number one language,
they ate the first language. So I've been motherfucked in
you know, Portuguese, Spanish. A lot of times I don't

(33:13):
know what I'm getting yelled at for. But with those
things you will.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Dude, Sometimes I don't know what I'm getting yelled at for,
and it's all English. At least we're all in the
same boat. Right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Creed was out. That was a great movie. The Martian
goose bumps were all popping off in the the box office.
Drake's hotline Bling took place Drake was all over this era.
This year Super Bowl champions were those weak Denver Broncos.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
They weren't that week that year, buddy, all right, let's
get and uh.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
You know they Okay, you fucking know that you were
probably there.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
I was probably I think you were.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
That's another time I met you and I said, I
never met you, but I I knew who you were.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Yeah, after today, you'll still never met me.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
This is when von Miller was just going absolutely insane.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Von was vonn was tough.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Yeah, we had to change up a snap count. So
Peyton this would have been. Was this the year that
Peyton Peyton.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Was out right, he was out for like and brock
Ospiler came yeah, yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Then Peyton came back, came back for the playoffs and
like the longest pass he ever threw is like ten yards.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, you guys had a hell of a defense. Yeah,
hell of a defense. Hell of a defense hit him
ten yards at a time. You're still going forward. Yeah,
as long as that's the name of the game. If
you watch Brady all he talks about the ball's gotta
go forward, right, the ball's gotta go forward.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Yeah, three point three yards of play and you're gonna
have a first down every there.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
We're gonna be close. Keep you stay up, you stay
you stay ahead of schedule.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
It's it's simple, but we try to make you. Don't
drop the ball. Candleman, you can't drop the ball. Hey,
you just can't drop the ball. Yeah, you can't.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Are you kind of other sports or just Broncos.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
I enjoy watching all sports, so yeah, like you know,
watching basketball when it comes down to the nit. I mean,
I grew up in the Jordan era, so Bulls loved
the Bulls. But I wouldn't say I'm a Bulls fan,
you know, but I'm more so people always ask me that.
They're like, hey, yes, I'm a Broncos fan.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
I'm a Broncos fan because when I was a kid,
late nineties, I really didn't have.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
A football team that I pulled for. But Elway was
a part of a car dealership thing and he came
to Vegas and he was signing autographs and so I
met him. He signed a ball of mine, and so
I was like, Okay, I'm a Broncos fan. And that's
sort of around the same time they came out with
their new the new logo and uniforms and all that
stuff right on them. Yeah yeah, and so uh sorry,

(35:43):
that's why I picked Broncos. But obviously it was a
good time. They went and won two Super Bowls back
to back with Elway in that era, Rod Smith and
Shannon Sharp and Terrell Davis all the dogs, right.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
This one's for John Jeffrey.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Yeah, yeah, it went back to back.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
But uh, copter and end zone, this one's for John.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
This one's for John.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
So like this day and age, though, like I've met
a lot of players, you know, going to Super Bowl games,
going to different functions that I get to go to,
I meet a lot of players and so like I've
got I've got Broncos gear, I've got Patriots gear, you know,
I've got Eagle stuff.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
I've got Seahawks stuff. Like I got stuff from everywhere
that I've always been. And they're like, man, you wear
all this stuff all the time. What team? Are you
actually a fan of it? I'm like, I'm a fan
of the players, you know, Like I know a few
guys that you know, we've hung out and whatever. Well
I say that too.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
It's hard when you're another professional athlete to just I mean,
unless you I grew up a Niners fan, but I
could wear everything because for different sports because you respect,
Like you said, you have friends from all the teams,
and you respect. You understand what they went through to
get to where they're at. Andy just you're vested into

(36:51):
what they do because you met them, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
It's pretty cool. Yeah. So like my high school baseball coach,
he was really tight with Mike Maddocks, who is Greg
maddocks brother. Yeah, you know, and so I was. I
was a Atlanta Braves fan, and then you know, Bryce
Harper's from Vegas, and so now I'm a Phillies fan.
And then uh, my business manager who works for me,

(37:15):
he's got a cousin who plays on Cincinnati Red. So
like just all over the board. Do you still live
in Vegas? I don't know. I live in Charlotte, North Carolina.
So yeah, some no Vegas teams. No, yeah, yeah, that's
that's where Vegas Knights. Yeah, let's go. I'm a Knights fan.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Yeah, the Knights, well, the Raiders, the A's are going there.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Yeah right. Tom owns the w NBA team, which is
see that's something else. I went to a Raiders game
last year's at home and got some Raiders gear and
so they're like, oh, man, Raiders and Broncos are in
the same conference. So yeah, and like, oh, you're you're
downing on your Broncos. I'm like, no, I just got
free stuff. You're more of a raider driver though a

(37:57):
little bit.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, you're like a raider, yeah, because you know, you're
kind of You're tough, That's right, You're tough. You don't
give a fuck. You'll say what you're on your mind.
That'll do you don't you don't care to break people's hearts.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
You ain't there to make friends. You're there to win races.
And that's kind of like a raider, that's right. Yeah,
kind of like a fucking raider.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
Well back in the high time of the Get Out
of Here Kyle we We mentioned MJ a little bit earlier.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
What's it like having him in NASCAR? Now?

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Uh, it's good. I think that you know, MJ probably
brings a set of eyeballs to the sport. I think
MJ anything he touches, right, So, uh, he's got that
notoriety of everything that he was that he was and
did and accomplished and all that stuff, and of course,
everybody's always wearing Jay's around, you know, So it's it's
really hot these days. But I don't think it'll ever die,

(38:48):
and so neither will MJ. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Now, how come every NASCAR guy develops a Southern accent
when they're not from the South, but they do. I
have one kind of little bit, got a little twin.
I mean, fucking I mean everyone, every even a guy's
from California, they fucking have Nascar accents. Now, isn't an
accent you guys go to We don't go to course, No,

(39:10):
you gotta, yeah, just because I guess it's because I
have a Southern twing because all my football coaches were
from the South in college and shit, so when I
you know, like, I'll get a little playing because you're
getting yelled at in fucking South.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Yeah, y'all, y'all.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
What was Kyle Busch like in twenty fifteen?

Speaker 3 (39:28):
I was probably the number one hated guy on the circuit.
Why I got a lot of booze? I won too much,
won too much? I want too much? Did you feed
off those boots?

Speaker 4 (39:39):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:40):
I felt like that, Like whenever we played in New
York because of the Boston New York thing or whenever
we played in Denver because we had a little rivalry Baltimore.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
I loved being the villain. It brought my juices up.
Does it work right? Tom was?

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Yeah, everyone hated him.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Oh yeah, but it's crazy because he played through where
everyone kind of liked him early in his career.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
Yeah. Too, everyone hating you and if you're if you're
hate one too much, you won too much, won too much,
that's it. Yeah, so you're the joke. I mean Tom
coming in and playing for the Patriots the first couple
of years, like they're like, ah, whatever, who's this new guy?

Speaker 2 (40:11):
You know?

Speaker 3 (40:11):
And then boom, it's like AFC Championship game, oh, super Bowl?
You know it's every year winning sixteen and oh whatever.
Yeah yeah, winning makes him hate you. Yeah. And then
he's on the sidelines, you know, running his mouth and
it's like, oh see he is an asshole. It's like, no,
that bro knows what he needs in order to win
football games, and he's.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Gonna tell you. He's gonna tell you what you fucked
up on.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Right? Was that kind of how it was with Gibbs
working with Joe?

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, Joe is that because that's Joe kind of let
you be you because he knew that there was a
way of being able to get the most out of
his people, his players, his drivers, whatever of like I'll
deal with sort of the the off track, some of
the antics or whatever that you that you possess because
you're successful on the track. It's a production business. Yeah,

(40:59):
whatever makes you. That's right, exactly, yes, sir, That's that's
what everyone asks. How was Belichick? You know, like I mean,
he didn't give a fuck about anything. Unless you produce,
you could be kind of an ass. So you could
do this if you produced on Sundays, that's all that matters.
That's it could be part of your funk shuai. That
is yeah, you know, it could be part of your
And Gibbs clearly knows how to get guys to perform

(41:21):
at as highest Yeah goes and fucking doesn't the Super Bowls,
the Redskins now the Commanders and and we all hear
about the NASCAR.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
I mean, that's that's so cool.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
He just he just have a presence about him, like
he's just probably calm, cool and collect he is.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Joe, Oh yeah, yeah for sure. No, but he just
he just knows how to extract the most out of
his people, and if that's letting them be who they
need to be in order to be able to get that,
then he lets him be like Danny right now, Danny
drives for Joe. He's the number one hated guy on
the circuit and he likes to run his mouth afterwards.
And what does he say. He says, I beat your
favorite driver or whatever whenever he wins the race, you know,

(41:58):
because all the rest of the drivers lost, and so
it's like, well, Carrie, man, carry while you can carry it.
He's got He's one of the only guys this year
that's got five wins on the season. He's winning the
most races. So run that, yap, you got it, so
you too. He can back it up. He can back
it up on the track. Sh talk, I do, I do. Yeah,
I'd love doing it, man, I love doing it. Yeah,
Like I'd put my hands in front of the camera,

(42:19):
like all the fans are booing me. They're just whining
their cry babies because I'm winning.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
I've seen you on the mic before after a win like, yeah,
you guys, what you said?

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Something crazy? I forgot. But I was like this guy,
he really is a heel.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
He's the heel.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Yeah, but you could back it up and go win
the next week. Yeah. Now, Dereck Henry was the heisman
back then.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Dereck Henry.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Wow, that's bad ass, that's crazy. Yeah, he got to
get a hold onto it. Now though Cam Cam did
blast that uh that Super Bowl. He was really good
in the Super Bowl. So he was MVP that year.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
They were really do for that fumble there. They were
fifteen and one think so yeah they were. Yeah, they
think they beat us that year on Monday Night Football.
They should they should have they should have beat then.
They were a better than the Broncos.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Well not maybe the better I think the better team
overall one. But Cam was definitely one that was carrying
the Panthers, right, so, but he was carrying him enough
that they were they had a legit shot to win
that one. You ever meet Cam, I have not met
Cam yet.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
No. Cam is like the largest human being you ever meet.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
Is that right? He's a big dude, he's got aura.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
He's dressed to impress always, I mean this way every way.
Did he just this guy?

Speaker 3 (43:28):
I've seen the dress.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Yeah, he's because he played with us for a year
and he would dress like that to go to practice,
like before work, like usually guys come up to work.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
And sweats and ship.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
This guy would be.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Dressed out, have all his ship going into practice. It
would be crazy.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
That never bled over to Belichick though, you know Belichick
never started to dress that way.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
No, it didn't. But like like you, like you said,
with Gibbs, he let him do his thing to get
the best out of him. That's right somewhat, you know
what I mean. And that's what good leaders do. What's
your favorite race movie of all time?

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Days of Thunder?

Speaker 2 (44:01):
It's not even a fucking close. They got a two
coming out?

Speaker 3 (44:05):
I heard, does the possibility of two happening?

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yeah, get your ass in there. I should Yeah, absolutely,
I think you should be like maybe the second lead.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
You could be the asshole.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah, I could be the rowdy, right yeah, yeah, the
real rowdy, the real rowdy.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Yeah. And then, uh, you.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Do live in North Carolina? And do you have a
stick boat?

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Light him?

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Because he didn't.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
He live on a lake and he lived I live
on the lake. Yeah, I live on the lake. I
mean I got a pontoon, but we can rent one.
We can rent whatever we can rent it. Yeah, yeah,
if you'll send us something, that's right.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
We got some tahoes, Yeah, Talladagan Knights was okay, what's
another I like that one movie?

Speaker 3 (44:44):
The Race movie.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
It was the Lemon one, not the Ford versus Ferrari
The Hunt? Was it the Hunt one? Hunt and Ricky Lotta? Yes,
yeah that was what was it? What was that called
rush Rush? That was a oh yeah, that was that
was a good one.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
Yeah. What do you uh?

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Do you have a pregame mix that you listened to?

Speaker 3 (45:07):
No, we kind of have our own like set schedule
of stuff we got to do. But I'm not really
I'm not really a big music like pump it up
sort of guy. I know, yeah, No, I wasn't like
lyrically Hello from Adele it's on there. There you go. Yeah,
that's that's on my all time playlist.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Well, let's jump into this race. Let's hear about this race, Jackie,
break us down.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
First we get we got to glaze up Kyle here
and give the flowers and give the accolades. We could
be here all day with the actually number two it's
a big ones baby, that's high eighteen.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
It's great.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
How do you settle on the number, by the way,
so uh, it's typically the car owner. Okay, so the
car owners, they always have their numbers, and so Joe
I don't know how he picked the number eighteen. I
guess that was probably the quarterback number for the Washington
Redskins for years. I don't think Douglas was it was
it was who was? I was just many Well.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Yeah, well both eighteens won the championship there in twenty fifteen.
There you go, Mane. Anyway, it's a car owner number.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
So okay, yeah, all right, that settles it.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
But Kyle career wise, two time Cup Series champion fifteen,
we're talking about nineteen again, seven hundred and forty five
career starts at the time of this Cup Series wins,
sixty three of those Exfinity Series Truck Series one hundred
and sixty nine combined wins there, ninth all time in
Cup Series wins. And then the year we're talking about
twenty fifteen, we'll get into the comeback here in a minute,

(46:27):
but twenty five races started, five wins, had an insane
June July got so hot, top ten, got twelve top
tens that year, five top fives. I mean, does it
all Sonoma in June, Kentucky in July, New Hampshire in July,
the Brickyard in July.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Three straight maybe was gonna be four man four to
five though four to five. We got beat on fuel mileage.
At Watkins Glenn, we were leading, but we had to
pit with like three to go to splash and go.
We just needed enough fuel to finish the race, but
the guy behind me was able to make it all
the way. We end up third. Where's the miscalculation on
that right rights? A little heavier heavy? Yeah, so I

(47:06):
burned up a little bit more fuel than I should have?

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Is that that's crazy? You got to be disciplined. Yeah,
Like it could be that right there. You should have
poo that year too. So you get hurt this year? Yeah,
back in February, you get gees. You break your leg.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
I broke my right leg tip fib double compound fracture,
and then I also broke my left foot Jones fracture.
Uh list frank list for Ooh, that's terrible.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Your your pedal foot the break right, which hurts even
worse because like your pedal like the gas is easy,
like you're just on and off the gas.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
That's no big deal. But your brake pressure, like you're pushing,
it's it's like six hundred to one thousand pounds of
break pressure, which your foot is probably pressing like two
hundred pounds, you know, so like you're doing a squad
every time you're on the on the pedal.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
So that probably was the hardest thing to come back.
That was the hardest thing to come back from.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
Absolutely, So the broken leg thing like when I was
in the hospital and they put the rod and screws in,
and then a week later, I'm at home recovering and
the physical tervice comes to the house and he's like,
all right, hey, stand up, And I'm like, what, I
got a rod? You know? You know what happened? Right,
He's like, yeah, stand up, You're fine. There's a rod.
It's gonna hold you up.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
And so I was up for like I don't know
t minus two seconds and I fell.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
Right back over.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
And then but I couldn't put any pressure on my
left leg because the foot the foot. You weren't allowed
to stand on your foot or put any pressure through
your left foot for a month. So I'm hobbling around,
I'm wheelchairing, I'm crutching whatever it was to go from
point A to point B for for a month, and
then finally it was like, okay, now you can start

(48:38):
kind of working in your foot, your foot workouts and
things like that to get your foot back going.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
But I had I had three plates in my foot
and however many screws, and so I had to live
with that for the whole season because if I would have,
if I would have gone back in for foot surgery,
it would have taken me back out of the car
and I would have missed you know, probably four weeks
right with all the fill in, the infectious screws coming out,

(49:05):
you know, so it have missed another So it was
just it wasn't gonna happen. So I was like, We're
just gonna run the whole rest of the year with
the with the foot plates and screws and stuff. And
then after the season was over, I got it taken
back out with that hurt that hurt the worst, the foot.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Yeah, yeah, the foot guy of breaking both my feet,
my fit, my jones fractures, those are the worst. Is
that the outer one that's at the outer metatarsel. So
that was that was Greg too right there, right.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Huh huh.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
That was Greg Olsen. Olsen Olsen had that Yeah, hey
he hit me up when he broke it.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Really yeah, did he hit you up? He did?

Speaker 2 (49:37):
He did. He was hitting up everyone on He was like, hey,
what's the recovery here?

Speaker 3 (49:41):
What do I gotta do?

Speaker 2 (49:42):
You know?

Speaker 3 (49:42):
And I'm like, well, mine's different than what yours was,
but yeah, you're screwed. Yeah, it's true. How actually you guys?
I mean for I mean, I was barely walking to
the race car to getting the race car, so I'm
not I Am not going to be going out there
running at any sort of mile an hour and having
three hundred pound guys chasing after me and tackling me.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Yeah, it's tough, And that's I was gonna ask you,
like confidence level. How did you get your confidence back
so fast to just come in and start winning immediately
off of injury? Like cause for me when I it
was tough for an athlete, like when you break something,
you have surgery and you have to rehabit from day one,
like you couldn't walk and it's like the most fundamental

(50:22):
thing Like that used to get at me so much
when I had to overcome the fucking surgery and you
can't just get too healthy. You're trying to get to
where you're at exactly, you know what I mean. So
how did you deal with that? It was tough. I
mean I had a good support system.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
My wife was at which funny thing about all of
this not very funny, but my wife was six months
pregnant at the time when all this went down, you know,
so she's now taking care of me when I'm supposed
to be, you know, helping her taking care of her.
We're having our first child at that time. But you know,
one of my main inspirations was like, hey, I'm going
to be there in the hospital room with you. I'm
gonna stand, I'm gonna help, I'm gonna support you. So

(51:00):
my recovery was based off of her being there for
Brexton's birth, but then also wanting to get back in
the race car as well, you know. But like when
I got back in the car, I ran. So there
was a non points race, it's our All Star race
that we have in NASCAR, and no points on the line,
just money whatever, but just go burn some laps. It
was only like an it's like an hour and a

(51:21):
half race, so you're not in the car that long,
and so for being out of the car for eleven weeks.
It's like a good, good way to get back in.
But then the following race is our longest race of
the year, at six hundred miles. You're in the car
for four four and a half hours.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
So I fell out of the seat in that one,
like fifty laps ago in the race, and I'm like, guys,
I'm tired, Like my head is just falling out of
this thing.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
I hit the wall a couple times. I ended up
finishing tenth. But the next race we went to, I
crashed out. The next race we went to, I crashed out.
The next race we went to, I think I hit
the wall again. We finished, but it wasn't very good.
And then the fifth race back was Sonoma, and we
were in the track, the road course, you know, turning reft,
turning right, high breaking, so like high pressure on the foot,

(52:05):
the bad foot, and so I'm running not very spectacular,
like fifteenth on the day, and there was a caution
late we came in and pitid it for tires. Some
other guys stayed out, so we took the restart and
zoomed right up through there and got up to the
lead and I'm like, shit, I'm leading with three laps
to go, you know, just don't screw it up. And
so we ended up winning that one, which was awesome.

(52:26):
My fifth race back I won, and I'm like, Okay,
this sort of puts everything back into like, okay, we're good.
You know, I can still win, like things are okay.
And then that's when we went on that hot streak
of June and July of winning all those races and
being stupid fast. It was just like, let the races
come to you, like, don't try to go out there
and win right out of the gate and make this
you know Days of Thunder movie thing happen, right, you know,

(52:48):
like that was my mindset, you know, routing cul Trickle
comes back from injury and goes and wins the Daytona
five hundred his next race out, and it was like
that's what I wanted, and I just pushed way too
hard for that and was tearing up stuff. So you
got to get your mind right, You got to get
back now.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
That's what it is. The injury thing is the mind.
Your body's gonna get there. It's controlling your mind, right,
and like the avenues, your mind wants to go down.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Oh, when you're laying in the hospital bed there and
and your mind's going through like I'm never gonna race again,
Like my career is over, Like what am I gonna do?
Like all this sort of stuff, And it's just like,
you know, just trying to control that and put that
back into perspective because my car still raced, you know.
Like Peyton Manning he was out for five, six, seven,
eight games, whatever it was. His his team still played.

(53:35):
My team still played. So I had to get back,
get healthy, and get back in there and they'll be
able to go out there and execute.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
What's that like watching someone kiss your wife? Okay, Ricky Bobby,
I mean.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
I used to.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
It's it's a tough thing when you're hurt and you're
watching your team go out and have success and win. Yeah,
that's another psychological battle you have as an athlete that's
overcoming something, right, Like, those are tough emotions. It is
want your team to do great, but then they do
too good and they're gonna replace you.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Yeah, well that's gonna be like, well, how good is
how what what's the worst? What's your self worth? If
somebody else can do it?

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Yeah, take us through the persona rowdy? How did you
get that?

Speaker 3 (54:18):
So early on in my career, you know, I come
in guns of blazing and you know, want to make
a name for myself and ran over some guys. It
was kind of chaos a little bit, you know, talking
that smack all that stuff, you know, being a little
rowdy obviously. And then I was racing in the truck
series and the guy that I was racing for his

(54:40):
truck number was fifteen, and he was like, hey, I'll
put a second truck out there for you to race
for me. You know what number do you want it
to be? And I'm like, well, your trucks are all black.
Just take the fifteen, reverse the number, make it fifty one,
and we'll put Rowdy on that thing. Let's go, let's
go dig. And we did that because at that time,
too like that, I was saying things I probably shouldn't

(55:01):
have said and running into people I probably shouldn't have
been running into, and so I was a little bit rowdy,
and so it just kind of went.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Now, who's the one guy that probably broke the straw
off the camel's back. They gave you the nickname rowdy
that you ran off the road who's the one that
you maybe.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
You talk about Junior. You tell me that that's the biggest,
most known crash. I guess I was in or whatever.
So we were racing for the lead. It's at Richmond.
It's in two thousand and eight. Dale Junior was racing
for DEI, his own his dad's team, which his dad
passed in two thousand and one, but his stepmom and
team they were still kind of carrying it going well.

(55:40):
He ends up leaving that team DEI and going to
work for Hendrick, which it kicked me out there. You're
only allowed four cars. Well, I was the odd man out.
So I basically felt like I got fired because of
Junior coming in, which there's a lot of other stuff
behind the scenes. That wasn't the case. Right now that
I've come to grow up a little bit and understand
everything that happened. But in that time, like I'm twenty

(56:03):
two years old, so I'm like, fuck this guy, you know,
Like you know, So we're racing for the win at Richmond,
and I'm not going to give him an inch I
might take I might want to take an inch, you know.
And so we're racing hard, battling it out and I
get loose into turn three and I turned the car
right to correct it so I don't spin myself and
I end up hitting him and it spins him out
and he hits the wall. And so who what huh?

(56:25):
Who won? Clint Boyer won the race. It's nothing.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
It wasn't even it wasn't even cool, Like I didn't
I didn't even win like that. That just goes to
show you I didn't know what the hell I was doing.
And so from that day on, from that day on,
I was I was public enemy number one. Yeah, and
he and he earned the name rowdy.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
We'll be right back after this quick break Eminem car.
That was a cool car. Eminem's was that was fifteen
years of winning races. And yeah, those jackets are still everything.
Oh yeah, I see kids wearing this Eminem jacket still.
Well then basketball guys they wear them too, and they're
when they're rolling into that thing went triple plat like

(57:04):
maybe one of the greatest pieces of merch of all time. Yeah,
and so what made me have that that rowdy persona
or that don't give a shit attitude was I knew
the Eminem's people. So it's it's not a publicly owned company.
It's a privately owned, family owned company. And so like
I knew the family, and so they were like they
were kind of the same as what Joe Joe was
able to get in their ear, and like, hey, just

(57:25):
let him be him, let him go do his thing
because he's he's gonna get us results. Like it may
cause a little bit of heck, but it's gonna be
all good.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
We're gonna win. And hell we won fifty something races
together and won two championships together, and so you know, yeah,
it was good.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
It was really successful times. What that's one of the
top paint jobs. What do you what are some other
favorite paint jobs you remember? Well?

Speaker 3 (57:48):
With em and M's, I was able to do a
movie scheme, so we did a Indiana Jones scheme back
in two thousand and eight. Was pretty bomb. That was
really cool. Chrispy was actually my favorite Eminem's candy as
a kid growing up. So when I got to race
the green Crispy car, that was the first time they
did a full season paint out with a car base
color other than yellow. It was always yellow. It was

(58:08):
always the yellow car. Maybe they had a brown car,
but that was green.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Green.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
Was the first time they did that, and then years
after that they would always switch it out. We had
the hazel nut car. There you go, there's the Indiana
Jones scheme. That was pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
I won that race in that car, the Southern five hundred.
That was one of the angle You see the angle
on the ground. Yeah, see that splitter. You want that
thing to set as flat as possible. We got to
work on that left front corner a little bit more
to get it. I gotta get that thing down. Get
it down.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Yeah, put it on the earth fucking put it on.
We don't want to know air going under there. No,
you don't hint that thing down. That's right, you want
to air going over the top, over the top.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
What are some of the best all time paint schemes
in that school?

Speaker 3 (58:44):
I mean obviously the the Dale Earnheart black three man like,
that's that's the most iconic, you know, and then you
got Richard Petty, the the STP car with the fluorescent
daglow orange and the Petty Blue. You know Jeff Gordon's car,
the Rainbow, not the flame car. Jeff wanted flames. I'm

(59:05):
like the rainbow, the rainbow car, Like he didn't want
to be the rainbow guy, right, but.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
You want that do pomping. I mean, he's from California.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
But that rainbow that was actually what really really drew
me into NASCAR and wanting to be a NASCAR driver.
Was that when so I was nine ten years old,
when Jeff came onto the scene driving the rainbow car,
and I'm like, that's a pretty car, you know, like
I like that car, like I like rainbow whatever. And
everybody else was cheering for Rusty Wallace, who was a
black car, the Miller of the High Life car, right,
and then you had Dale Earnhart in a black good

(59:37):
Wrench car, and you know Bobby Labonni at that time
was the Green eighteen. But yeah, it was it was
Jeff Gordon was who kind of wanted I wanted to
emulate and be a NASCAR driver.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
I used to like Jeff just me too, as a kid.
As a kid. As a kid, I still like Jeff,
still like Jeff, but because he was like he was
known to be like the one California racer and I
was from Cali, you know what I mean. Yeah, so
it was no guy. Yeah, I'm a Norkal guy. Okay,
I'm from San Mateo, remond City. Where's that It's thirty

(01:00:12):
minutes south of San Francisco.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Oh okay, yeah, I gotcha.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
He's like thirty He was north of north like Sonora,
and wasn't he over there? No?

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
What is that place called?

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
I don't know near there is this Stockton, but I
think it starts with the Sea Vieho that's where uh
Mac trace from.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
Yeah, Larson's from up that way.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Yeah he is, Yeah, he is. We came on, all right,
let's get up in there. Well that's true.

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
Yeah, I mean he did a couple of Norcow Oh
my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
Let's get in a quick lead up of this one.
We mentioned it a little bit earlier with uh with
this being the playoffs, we have four guys left who
are still in contention, Kyle of course being one of them. Yeah,
Kevin Harvick, he got Jeff Gordon notably last race. Yeah,
last race that was his retirement rate, and then Martin
Trux Junior. Yeah, so a lot on the line in
this one. We got nine playoff races down. This is

(01:01:11):
the tenth of course at Martinsville, Texas Phoenix. Leading up
to this, Jeff one one, Jimmy one one, Dale one
to one, and then in those Kyle finished fourth, fourth,
and fifth respectively. And then we talked a little bit
about utpole position earlier. We know that we're learning, we're
learning the cars.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
We know what that means.

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
Denny got the poll in this one, Kyle was third,
Jeff Gordon started in fifth, Martin Truex Junior in the eleventh,
and then Kevin Harvick in thirteenth. So that kind of
leads us into this thing.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
So of those other three guys, so Harvick was the
reigning champion from year prior in twenty fourteen. Yeah, Jeff Gordon,
this is his retirement race. This is his last full
time race as a competitor. And then Truex. What made
his story kind of special is he's from a team
in Denver, Colorado, which is unheard of, and they're sort
of the underdog underdog, you know, So you got underdog story,
pass champion and then you know, one of the sport's

(01:01:59):
greatest twos, this is his last race. What about you?
I was just I was just. I was playing with
house money everybody, So we had the The way the
playoffs work in NASCAR is if you were top thirty
in points, which we were. If you have a win,
which we had, you can be eligible for the championships.
So we were in the playoffs because of our win.

(01:02:20):
And so when the points all reset when the playoffs started,
because remember I missed eleven races, so I'm twenty sixth
in points or something, I'm way down there. But when
the playoffs reset, I had the most win, so boom boom.
I shot all the way at the top. I was
the number one seed.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Shot exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
So we made our way through all the rounds of
the playoffs as as he mentioned, and we all, this
is the four best guys that made it to the
to the last race and got to go race after
the championship. But a lot of the fans, you know,
said that I shouldn't have been there because I didn't
run the full season, like they're you know, their full season,
they're historians of the sport, like you got to run
all the races in order to be eligible. Well, it's
a different time, different time, So we we fit all

(01:02:58):
the criteria and we made it happen. So I just
treated it as like, Okay, you guys don't want me
to be here, then I shouldn't be here. Fine, I'm
just gonna play with house money. This is this is
for me to kind of learn a lesson to get
ready for next year. I'll win it next year, you
know what I mean. I'll come right on back. But
I didn't anticipate us being able to win it that year.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Well, I want to go through the pre so like,
this is crazy, this is crazy. That's a great top
four with the storylines. How do you approach? So you
have to beat all four of these guys to win
the championship. You don't have to win the race you
had you you have to be the top finisher of
those three albums, of those three guys. So what's your

(01:03:36):
race strategy? When you see Jeff Gordon? Nothing really, I
mean to me, it was just you did you the same?

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
Yeah? And I try to treat it as it's just
another race. You know, this doesn't this isn't that big
a deal. Like we're just gonna go out here, We're
going to run this race. You know. I wanted to
qualify on the poll. I missed the poll. I qualified third.
Denny got the poll. What's interesting about that is when
you win the poll, you get the number one pit pick,
and so what that means did you get to pick
where you want to be on pitt Road for like
timing lines and things like that, you like for pit

(01:04:04):
road speeds. So since Denny was my teammate, I'm trying
to remember how I got the number one pit pick.
I got the number one pit box that race. Yeah,
I can't remember exactly how that happened because Joey Logano
would have picked second, so why wouldn't if he have
taken it? But anyway, yeah, so that all that all
went down. But we're playing some little insider trading there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Hell yeah. Now, so you race all those guys, you
don't have like a little scouting report on each one
of those guys, like all right, this guy likes to
go high, All right, this guy's gonna fake on this
where they're all the same, or you're just racing your race.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
It's just it's all kind of mental. You just remember
it all. You know, Jeff had always sort of been
good at Homestead, not great, so I really wasn't worried
about him. TRUEX was a guy that was the underdog team,
so you really didn't think they were gonna have all
of what it took to be competitive and to win
the race. Harvick was probably the one that we studied

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the most and looked at the most and talked about
the most because he the year prior was the champion,
had to win the Homestead race. He won the race
at Homestead to win the championship the year prior, so
you know, he just won that race. He knows that track,
that team runs that place the best, So that's gonna
be your biggest, toughest competition.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Take us through this track of Homestead. What's the Scotty
report on the track?

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
So Homestead Miami Speedway is a true oval. It is
a semi banked oval where the bottom banking is nineteen
degrees and then the middle banking is twenty degrees and
the top banking of the track is twenty one degrees.
So it's got progressive banking throughout the track. So at
that time the track had gotten a little bit of

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age on it, so you could run anywhere. You could
run bottom all the way to the top. And so
when you run at Homestead, like the closer you get
to the wall, the faster you go because there's like
an air buffer that goes between you and the right
side of your car and the wall, so you can
kind of lean on this air cushion, and so that's
the fastest way to go around. But it's also if
you brush the wall or hit the wall, it takes
aerodynamics out of your car, so you really you're you're

(01:06:01):
flirting with disaster, you know, So you really don't want
to ride up on the wall. So for me, I
told myself, I am not going to run the wall
line until A I have to or B. It's like
the final twenty laps of the race. You know, I'm
not gonna put myself in that spot. Which during this
race it all kind of played out. There was a
strategy call and you want me to get into that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Yeah. Actually, so Harvick's leading, He's really really faster.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
And it goes from daytime to night time too, like
we got a little bit through that transition. Is that
tough for you guys? It is because at Homestead, when
you're going down to the front straight away, the sun is
directly in your eyes, like it's blinding. You almost can't
see Turn one until you get into the corner where
the shade is covered by the banking, you know, and
then the sun falls down below the horizon then you

(01:06:47):
can see everything fine.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Is it change the humidity of the track or the
stickiness of the tire or anything.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
Yeah, as nighttime comes on, you pick up more humidity,
so the air gets heavier, so you pick up more
down for so the car sticks better. The grip level
of the racetrack picks up because the track temperature cools off,
so your tires run a little bit cooler. The cooler
the tires are, the less slippids you'll get, you know,
so you go faster.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
But Harvick is so Harvick's leading this thing. He's one
of the fastest cars.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
Jeff was a third to fifth place car, and then
Truex got up to I think about seventh or eighth.
During the race, we were all kind of running up
pretty close to the front there. But there was a
strategy late in the race where Harvick came in to
pit and we stayed out a little bit longer. And
so then when we did come into pit and we

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came out of the pits, I cycled out pretty close
to Harvick, like probably five eight ten car links behind him,
and then we had fresher tires than he did, so
fresher tires is always faster, and so I was able
to catch right up to him and pass him relatively easy,
and then I was just able to stretch my lead
from there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
And so I remember because there was like something that
came on the track, right yeah, with twelve laps ago.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
He always looked about that. There was always the phantom caution.
I was not pissed or who's who's pissed about that?
Everybody but me, because I already Gibbs was pissed. Every
but see, I already mentally prepared for this yellow. I
was like, they're gonna throw a yellow. NASCAR is gonna
throw a yellow for something because they want that drama
effect of like, oh my gosh, we're gonna go through
a pit stop sequence and we're gonna go through a

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restart sequence, and so you know, it's gonna have everybody
all up on edge and mad about it, and we're
gonna see what happens. And I was like, Okay, when's
the yellow coming you. I'm leading the race. It's it's
eighteen to go, it's fifteen to go. I'm like, yeah,
I'm leading, Like there's gonna be a caution, Like I'm
not nitty I'm not nervous, nervous or tents or anything
yet because we haven't gotten to the yellow. So then

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yellow flies and I'm like, haha, there it is.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
I was ready for this, you know, so you had
to go in. So then we had to come in
the pit. So now you got to rely on your
pit crew.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
Now, how the pit crew is? The boys were good
that that day.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
They were they were and I mean for for five, six,
eight years whatever, I had the number one pit crew
of the year. You know, they were they were bombed.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
So I how important is that to have?

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
That? Really important? Because if you come in the pits
leading the race and you go out sixth, man, it's
gonna be really tough for me to be able to
get past those front runners for a championship, you know,
and to win the race. But we came in, we
came in first, We came out first. But there was
a guy who ended up staying out, so he actually
got to take the lead for the restart. But I

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started on the outside.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
So I am and your boy who started behind the
Harvick was right behind me, which you thought he was
going to go I thought he was.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
Going to go inside.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Well, I thought on the restart, when the restart would happen,
the guy that stayed out on older tires, he's going
to be slow, right, so he's gonna have a slow takeoff.
So I thought Harvick was going to take inside and
make it three wide on the start and then we
were all just going to into turn one, you know,
But Harvick picked behind me. So when he picked behind me,
I was like, well, shit, it doesn't matter if I

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get a good restart, he's going to be behind me,
or if I get a bad restart. He can't pass
me until the start finish line anyway. So like I'm
in I'm in complete control of him.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
Why do you do that? I don't know. You ask him? No,
you don't give a fuck. No, that's today. It's over.
But he's not racing anymore. And that was then and
this is now.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
That's kind of like when people ask me about what
do you think about giving the ball to Marshawn Lynch
are throwing it? I'm glad they threw the gave the
ball to Marshawn, yeah, right, or they threw it, we
picked it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
You had a Marshall Lynch interview moment. Remember watching I did.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Yeah, and you were wearing Skittles. Yeah, it was that
like a plan thing. Yes, that's why. That's why I
did that. That's a ball, No ball, that's right. You
know football, that's right. Yeah, I know some football. Marshawn
and I actually we did a we did a helmet swap.
I gave him my Skittles helmet and he gave me
a Seahawks helmet. You ever meet him?

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
Yeah? Yeah, he's awesome. Yeah, he's super cool. Yeah. So
I haven't met a football guy I haven't liked, honestly, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
I haven't met a NASCAR guy that I haven't liked.
Who should I meet that? I won't like Logana? No,
you'll you'll like him.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
He's uh, he's a he's a completely different person sitting
here versus going to the racetrack.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
Do you guys eat during races?

Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
No, just some due Carl Edwards used to he always
had like a protein bar or some snacks or something
like that because he was a he was a brick
shit house. He worked out all the time, so he
get hungry. He burned his calories much faster than I
do mine and you do yours.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
So take us through these last six laps after the caution,
we when do we know we have it? When he
You knew you had it when he fucking started behind you?

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
Basically, yeah, yeah, I knew. I knew you didn't need
to win the race, but you wanted to win the race.
You didn't. All all I had to do was finish.
I had a Harvick, which Harvick finished second in the race,
so I had to win the race, right but at
this point of the race, but at had to beat him.
But at this point of the race, Yeah, when when
when we all selected and he selected behind me, I
was like, oh, he just gave me. He just gave
me the win, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
And so what are you focusing on from that point on?

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
Don't crash? Basically, yeah, hit your marks, do everything. And
you know when we took off on the restart there,
I had got a really good restart. I was like,
I just held the gas down all the way through
one and two wide open. I'm like, I hope it sticks.
And she just went through there just like glue. And
we come off a turn two and you know, Harvick's

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probably four or five six lengths behind me. I can't
remember if the two Brad If Brad blended up behind
me and Harvick had to waste another corner passing him,
which just gave me more gap. But I was just like,
just hit your marks, just do everything you need to do.
And we ended up winning by one point six seconds,
so I was just able to continue to drive away.

(01:12:37):
We were just the better car, We were just faster.
What are the marks, so, Marx is your reference points
on the racetrack. So like going off into turn one,
there's a light, and like you'll start rolling out of
the gas nice and easy at that light, and then
you'll let the car kind of set into the banking,
and when it sets into the corner sets in the banking.
Then when you're on newer tires, you can just whack
the gas and drive up off the corner wide open.

(01:12:58):
But as the tires wear the you have to start
finessing to throttle a little bit more to not spin
the tires and keep the car stuck to the racetrack.
And tires are everything. Tires are everything. Yeah, rubber meets
the road.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Rubber meets the road. And you had fresh tires, yeah,
me next to you? Well, everybody did, everybody but Brad yeah,
Brad was the only one that that that stayed out.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
Stayed out yep.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
And then how exhilarating did it feel when you finish
the race?

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
So I took the white flag, and when you take
the white flag, the next flag ends it. So like
if somebody crashes and the caution comes out, like it's over,
you know, you go in whatever order you're in. NASCAR
just freezes the field. But when I took the white flag,
and I had a probably a one point six second
lead or whatever, I was just like, okay, now, it's
really like okay, don't screw it up, right. But as
you're going down to backstretch, like you're just starting to

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like think of, oh my god, like this is happening,
Like this is coming true, you know what I mean,
So like you have a hole. I didn't really think
about it for eight laps. I was just always like, hey,
don't screw it up. But then the last lap, it's like,
oh my gosh, this is coming true. You know, all
of my dreams, everything I've ever worked for, like it's
all coming true, you know. And you're wrapping through turns
three and four and you see the checker flag out

(01:14:07):
of your windshield and I had a tier run down
my cheek, you know, cause it was just like wow,
so cool was it?

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
That's the first one. Was that that That's like the
the first one is the craziest one because you've never
experienced it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
Yeah, exactly. So the first championship, when I won the
championship and you go to the winter stage and you
do the celebration of all that stuff, and I don't
know that the whole process of from post race to
when you finally like go to the airport after the
race is over, it's probably three three and a half hours.
I mean, it blew by. It was like thirty minutes,
you know what I mean. So when I won it

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the second time, I had been in that situation before
where I'm like, I'm like, let's slow everything, like, let's
just slow everything down, like let's take this in a
little bit more. So I remember the second one the
whole three hours, like it was three hours, you know
what I mean. So that was that was I got
to really take in that one and all of the

(01:15:01):
special things that kind of went through each and every
little moment that that happened in that one.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
I mean, that had to be not like low key,
that's not that was like the rest of the guy's
worst biggest fear that he goes out and wins after
the year it started out, because it just created a
fucking monster.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
Yeah, exactly what I mean. So fifteen, we made it
to the final four. So to be championship eligible, you
got to make it to the final four. So I've
made it to the final four in fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen,
and nineteen, so five years in a row we made it.
We only won it in fifteen and nineteen, but we
finished fourth in another year, second in another year, and
second in the other year, I think if I remember correctly,

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So like we were always right there, you know, like
in seventeen we won the most races of that year,
I believe. And Truex same Truex was with that same
team from Denver, Colorado. But they were fast. They were
way faster, like they had learned their stuff, you know,
they learned the.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Gray Yeah, and so he was the dominant car and
we actually had him beat in that race, you know,
like we passed him on Pitt Road, like we cycled
ahead of him. We were leading the race and we
come down for a pit stop. He got out ahead
of me on the pit stop.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
Joey Logano was also out ahead of me, and Joey
Logano I punched him at Vegas earlier in that year,
and so he was not a Kyle Busch fan, and
so he arrow blocked me like he used his cars
as an arrow defense tool for ten laps. It took
me ten laps to get by him. So TRUEX had
a two second lead or whatever it was by the
time I got by Logano. So I wasted my tires

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getting by Logano. But I was still able to run
TRUEX down and get close to him. But I was
smoked when I got there, so I couldn't do anything
when I got there. So I finished second to him by,
you know, less than three tenths of a second.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
So Logano's your favorite guy on the circuit. You could
say that, how'd you celebrate this? Did you go to
South Beach at all? I mean you had a new
you kind of had a kid, yeah, right, But I
mean you guys went through so much that year you
had to celebrate somehow.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
I mean we had when you have the so the
banquet back in that time, our end of the year
point celebration, all the all the top ten drivers go
to the awards banquet. It was in Vegas. So we
we threw down in Vegas. Pretty good that it was fun,
you believe it at that it was. It was at
the Encore shout out and Drew Prices, right, Drew, Drew

(01:17:24):
carry Carrey k state alone, Drew same school, Drew Carrey.
Was there?

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Nothing like old Drew Carrey. Yeah, right, bitch, Yeah, yeah
he had. He had a few of those there. You
played with some Clinko, Yeah, he was. He was playing
plinko for sure. Yeah, awesome. What's after about this?

Speaker 4 (01:17:45):
Of course wins his first NASCAR Cup Series. Uh, this
will be the thirty fourth NASCAR Cup Sprint victory for
Kyle uh in the tour overall Toyota.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
This was the first Toyota. That's big Cup Series victory.
That's crazy, first Cup serious championship, Yeah, championship. Yeah. I
also won Toyota their first Cup Series race in NASCAR.
You're welcome Toyota, well, NASCAR Cup Series. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
And then in twenty nineteen, of course Kyle would do
it again, get another ship. I'm then sixty three NASCAR
Cup wins since then.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
Sixty three total to control. Yes, since twenty fifteen.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
So I had thirty four back in twenty fifteen. Now
I have sixty three. So yeah, sixty three, baby dad.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
Let's get into Let's grade the game. Let's grade the game.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
Let's do it. Let's name the game. These are some
names that we came up with. If you have a game,
or if you have a name that you want to
use for this race, go ahead and blurt it out.
We came up with taking it Home at Homestead, Sorry, Jeff,
come back and complete. The first one is the sweetest.

(01:18:50):
We're getting rowdy in Miami, hm, or do you have
some that you call it by?

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
I have no, No, it's always just the twenty fifteen
Homestead Champion Chip raise. So you know, I like the
I like the third one and the fifth one there.
I like come back complete. That's good.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
I like getting routy in Miami. At least getting routy
in Miami puts my name in there. So let's get
the getting rowdy in Miami presented by comeback complete, presented
by come by presented by We gotta start doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
You know what this guy is. This guy's this heat marketing.
I've seen him have to control his his anger in
a postgame interview and drop his freaking thing and then
mother f someone I've seen there's a couple of those. Yes, sir,
we're trying to have a fantastic weekend. Is this the
greatest game of all time? Let's score it? Decimals encouraged Kyle.

(01:19:41):
The stakes of this race Jeff Gordon's last right, the
French guy name, I mean, what's he was battling? What
are the stakes? Zero to ten Decimalso all right, true
exces the French steaks was ten man? This ten?

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
Yeah, stupid question in with this for all the other
racers that what are they racing for in a race
like this?

Speaker 3 (01:20:05):
They want to win? I mean, so they're racing for
the win, but honestly they're just racing to just money,
just get to the end of the season. Yeah, like, hey,
it's the last race of the year, Like, let's just
get this over with, let's go home, start over next year. Also,
probably you get a little extra chedder if you higher
you right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
Yeah, yeah, there's always races within the race, right, So
there's guys racing for fifth in points or tenth in points,
or twentieth in points whatever, you know, they want to,
they want to, they want to finish their season strong
on a high note. Steaks for me, I mean, this
is a fucking Jeff Gordon's last race. Guys trying to
repeat right of getting rowdy. No smoke though, No smoke,

(01:20:41):
no smoke, no smoke. But I'm gonna go with nine
point three. Okay, because you weren't going for back to
back yet. You know, maybe if you're going back to back,
you know, the stake could have been a little higher.

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
Yeah, well stakes were ten for me because it was
my first shot for going after championship all time man.

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
Yeah, star power of this race, a lot of stars
zero to ten decimals encouraged.

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
I'm gonna go eight point nine. And the only thing
that's gonna draw it to eight point nine is just
that true X factor of him being with a team
from Denver, Colorado that's sort of like the underdog team.
You know, they just didn't have the star power. If
it was Jimmy Johnson with Harvick and Gordon like boom,
that would have been a ten. So I'll take some
off for that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with the
eight point seven off of your logic that I like
that off of your logic nine point four.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
Hey, you guys were giving some there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
Well the gameplay of the race, So how the race
was from a outsider, how would the viewer except this
this race? Was it entertaining? Was there a splash now
I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go eight point three? It
was It was just a It was just a generic race.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
The twenty sixteen Championship race was very dramatic, very dramatic.
You know what.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
The caution got me a little pissed off. I knew,
Kyle knew the caution was coming. The NASCAR always trying
to make shit dramatic. Theys twelve laps of this fucking race,
I thought it was a little artificially raced. A lot
of cautions that day. I'm gonna have to go with
an eight.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
A little defensive holding Patrick Mahomes in an anty championship game.

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
Yeah, maybe one of those eight flat eight flat.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
Okay, I went seven to four. I know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
Did you watch the race?

Speaker 4 (01:22:32):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
I watched it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
Highlights, highlights, I watched it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
The highlights were even boring. Jesus. And then lastly, we
go with the name of the game. We got a
great the name of the game.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
My score because we came up with a very good
name here on the flat.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
Cultural significant significance of the impact. How much is how
it's lasting, where it's stands in sports history.

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
Joe Gibbs said it best. He was like, this is
one of the greatest sports comebacks in our sport ever
or maybe even all sports, you know, being out with injury,
coming back, all that sort of stuff. Because I still
feel bad. Who is the Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Alex
Alex Smith. Alex Smith still hasn't like still struggling with
leg issues to the best of my knowledge, Right, he

(01:23:15):
came back, came back and played, but we had the
same We had the same break, right, and he came
back and played, but just never was never was the same.
So but anyway, that was way off topic. I don't
know why I went there. The uh name sports. Yeah,
I like the number eight right now, so we're just
gonna stick in the eights. Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
I like how the NAS guys, the NASCAR guys, they
always for the numbers, they call it the I like that,
you know, the fifteens. It's running good today. I like
you know the thirty four. This is fucking asked, like
you know the thirty four guys.

Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
I'm gonna go with.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
The name Rowdy Getting Rowdy in Miami presented by come
Back Complete. I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with
a seven point nine. Oh come on, it's pretty good. Hey,
you like that complete car. I gotta bump mine up
a little bit at six before this, but let me
bump this up at.

Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
You're gonna pay?

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
What's the what's the equivalent of like in football, like
someone knows ball, what's the equivalent for that for Nascar?

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
For racing?

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
This guy nose car one ball? Is that like they
they know ball because like they can play goodball, or
like they just watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
Like they might say something that's like, oh, this guy
actually watches a lot. It's not just like a casual
fanily like Tom Brady sucks or something like.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
That.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
Guy's a track head. He's a real race guy, race
race guy.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
I'm not a race guy.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
Yeah, race race guy. Yeah, Jillian's not either.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
Okay, so I'm kind of a race eight point big one.

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
I'm kind I want to race that rank on.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
To find out about the final eight point two one.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
It's our new thirty, the new the thirty five, thirty
five spot thirty five.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
Yeah right here, it's just below UFC fifty out.

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
Given all ends, Jesus Cuban didn't just let you guys
dq that one. Well, that's why we did. We reco
We had to re change the whole scoring system because
he fucked it up. Game.

Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
Yeah, I mean, hell, I can't be I can't be
below the bush push that's a great game. Yeah, I'm
just a bush. That's right, the top bush, the number
one bush. I hate bush so much. I made her
shave it off. You know, guy used to have that
T shirt yet Loud New Hampshire Get Loud. There was

(01:25:35):
a fan at Loud New Hampshire the race, the racetrack
and every time we were always there, one of my
probably not one of my Rowty Nation fans, right, and
he had this shirt on. He was like, I hate
bush so much. I made her shave it all.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
Oh my god. Put that in the T shirt Hall
of Fame. Yeah. Lastly, before we go, I just want
the Mount Rushmore of tracks tracks, the Mount Rushmore of tracks.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
All right, Well, so we sort of have our our
ring races. You know, Uh, Daytona five hundred is a
ring race.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
The Brickyard four hundred is a ring race, the Southern
five hundred at Darlington. So Brickyard is Indy Indy Darlington.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
And then.

Speaker 3 (01:26:27):
I love Bristol. Bristol's on Bristol's on my list. But people,
I love short tracks. So Bristol's a shorter track. It's
a half mile high bank. There's always action there, right,
you're flying like I always hear the guys talking about it.
But then there's a lot of people would would argue
Bristol for probably Talladega, I mean Tallada Talladega, knots many.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
Who has the best food. There is no food they
don't have. They don't give you guys, like catered food in.

Speaker 3 (01:26:55):
Your in your fucking We got our own RVs. My
wife's my cook man, so she takes care of me.
So looking good, yeah yeah yeah, I mean that's the
way we got an Italian girl.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
Man, that's love. That yes, sir, must be nice. Do
we miss anything from this race? No?

Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
Nothing from this race. It was It was a it
was a bang up race, man. It was good.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
Anything to plug everyone, go check out zones. We got
to zone up.

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
Yeah, I've been. I've been. I've been zoning you know
this whole game. We're zoned to get in the zone.
So yeah, we've got We've got the Zone Chevrolet coming
up this weekend at Las Vegas Motor Speedway. Uh, we're
in the playoffs. The NASCAR is in their playoff time.
I'm not in the playoffs unfortunately, but yeah, so we
want to go out there and win Vegas, my hometown race.

(01:27:36):
So we got to put Zone in the victory lane.
Let's fucking do it. Let's do it. Yes, thank you
so much for coming on, Bro, Absolutely no, I appreciate it.
It's been fun. So glad I was over making it happen.
You too, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
We'll be right back after this quick break. Man, that
was awesome, you know it. I was just thinking, we're
pretty lucky. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:27:56):
We have so many like different cool people that come
to the Nuthouse.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
I don't think there has been a single person who
hasn't been cool. Let's come on the show. We've been
like hundred plus.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
This is like a little kid though, Like I'm like
I get to have like Kyle Busch in my house.
Danny DeVito came over, Terry Bradshaw, like, you know, the
little kid in you. It's awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
You need to have these people at your house.

Speaker 2 (01:28:18):
Cool. Who's got it better than nuts? Who's got it
better than nuts? Man? Not right now?

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
The Chargers don't. They're pretty banged up on the offensive line.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
This is coming out a month from now too, by
the way, the Chargers.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
That's what John says, right or Jim, Oh that's true.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
Ye, that's true's got it better than us?

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
Unintentional harborism. I love the harballs.

Speaker 4 (01:28:40):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
By by the time that comes out, and they could
be back, you never know, you could be back. You
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Speaker 4 (01:28:59):
Chairs when they're blue, they're blue, they're blue. Hey, can
I just Kyle was a great guy. I know, we
already said what a guy.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
I love him. Maybe the Kyle's they, I mean, the
next guys we can start calling you. Yeah, yeah, they
all have. They're all like got their own like they
they just want a race, like, nah, I'm faster than him. Well,
there's spinning whatever. It is.

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
The individual is different from the team in terms of competing, right.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
Because yeah, but he's also like they're just they're all
so confident in their racing. Yeah, oh I love like
all race guys are like, yeah, I'm faster. Yeah, I'm like,
what do you you know? Not running? We're driving. I'm faster. Yeah,
it does. I just want to be fast. Yes, that's
fucking cool. It's so cool, bro, that's a good way
to live. It is, man, probably fast, die young, It's

(01:29:50):
true a terrible way to live. Hey, let it rid baby,
only live once, Yolo? Can we do a thirty for
thirty on that M and MS jacket that needs his
own thirty? Dude, He's met a lot of cool people too. Man,
what if I told you Kyle Busch.

Speaker 4 (01:30:08):
He was.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
He was exactly like that when I met him. Oh
back in a minute, back then, and exact same person.
Like he's he's kind of like a he'll show you
his territory. Oh yeah, like hey come over, you know,
but he'll set you up. He'll want to he wants
to joke on you a little. He was very proud
of bumping you too. He was me.

Speaker 3 (01:30:26):
I did that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
Yeah, that's fucking me. What if I would have just
fucking like spun out. I want to know if he
had done that for like all the pace tricks probably
does just for you every time. I think the guy
guy reminded me, right, But the guy right next to
me is like, I wouldn't be surprised if Kyle tries
to bump you, Like, what are you talking about? So
I kind of knew it was coming man.

Speaker 3 (01:30:49):
What a cool dude. That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
What a guy come back any times?

Speaker 3 (01:30:53):
What do we got?

Speaker 4 (01:30:55):
Tis the season, the Halloween season, So in honor of
that season, we are going to be drafting in a
little edition of Top five Kyler Jeles myself our top
five scariest athletes.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
Of all time. What do you think of that?

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
I like it?

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
I like it. Let's get scary, baby.

Speaker 4 (01:31:15):
These are the guys that you love them on your team,
you don't want to play against them, and even if
they are in your team, you still might be a
little scared. We included some coaches in here as well.
We got some notable names here that we can we
can kind of pick from, but just let these things rip. Jules,
you want to get the first draft pick overall?

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
Oh, first draft pick for me. Scariest guys Jack Lambert.

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
To pick and fifteen pounds laying Wood.

Speaker 4 (01:31:44):
I mean you just see a photo of that guy, like,
he's pretty scary looking jack O Lantern.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
I wouldn't call him into his face out. I'd be
too scary. He would murk you you go first, ky guy,
or you get zech.

Speaker 1 (01:31:54):
I mean, I'm gonna go with ray Lewis.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
Oh, baby, ray Lucy.

Speaker 4 (01:31:59):
Pretty pretty scary, but he's freaking scary on and off
the field. Super Bowl weekend in Atlanta. You don't want
to see him.

Speaker 1 (01:32:06):
It's the son of his eyes too. Oh, it's like
an intensity to it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
Oh yeah, I think I'm gonna go, Mike Tyson, I'm
gonna go. You know what he's that's pretty good. He's
scary because you don't know what, Mike you're gonna get. Oh,
I know, I don't know. He seems so cool now,
but I've seen him like in around certain people where
he just doesn't click with that vibe. Yeah, like this
thing hangover.

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
Guys like the pet tiger. Yeah, like he might be
friendly to you, but he's still a fucking tiger.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
I eat your kildren like spine old.

Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
I want him on to incredible.

Speaker 4 (01:32:38):
He'd be so good just walking out there with a
towel in the black, all black trunks, like, no superfluous maloney,
no outfit, just coming.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
Up murder you brod.

Speaker 4 (01:32:48):
He was pretty scary coming to murk next scary all right,
snake drafts. Oh we're snaking? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm
gonna go with a weight room legend here. James Harrison
number two, Baby.

Speaker 3 (01:33:04):
I think that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
He was demo. He was terrifying. Yeah was he played
with him?

Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
Man, he tackled me.

Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
Once, he got me from behind, like on a screen
or something. He is a scary looking dude, and he
has the aura and how he talks, and he's very
like honest. He doesn't give a fuck about feelings.

Speaker 3 (01:33:23):
But I love him.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
What's up with these ken statle? I'm just being so scary.

Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
Hey, we got scary motherfuckers out here.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
And Andrew carry Kyle likes Drew.

Speaker 3 (01:33:32):
He likes Drew.

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
He ain't no Bob Barker. But he liked Drew.

Speaker 3 (01:33:35):
He ain't no Bob Barker.

Speaker 2 (01:33:36):
Who is though, all right, who you got, I'm gonna go.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
I'm gonna go with mean Joe Green.

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
That's a classic pick. Mean is in the name. I
mean is in the name.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
You're like, ohthough, he shut a softer side and.

Speaker 3 (01:33:50):
Catch it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:50):
But you know, Terry said to himself.

Speaker 3 (01:33:52):
He's fucking mean.

Speaker 2 (01:33:53):
They ain't calling me for no reason. Great pick.

Speaker 4 (01:33:56):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:33:57):
Scary.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
I'm gonna go with Ronnie Lot. Oh, that's a great one,
especially for like a receiver. I wasn't ever scared of anyone, but.

Speaker 3 (01:34:08):
Ronnie.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
I just grew up watching him and the finger cutting
off like he just he tried to punish people. I
loved it, but it's scary. Oh yeah, I'll tell you
need those guys. Yeah, who's that guy up?

Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
You guys do another one?

Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
Joe's oh me fucking Nolan Ryan, Oh yeah, oh yeah.
He's like six' four tall on the. Mound he pitched
until he was like, fifty could, You? Matt and he
was throwing gas and he would give you that sweet
chip music if you gave him the wrong look and
then you charged like your. Demeanor he beat the ship

(01:34:42):
out of you if you charged on, him and he did. It, dude,
Right nolan is, like that's that's. Terrifying it's a scary
man throwing, heat throwing heat some meal damage to beat
the ship out of.

Speaker 1 (01:34:59):
You, yeah, yeah, Yeah, Okay i'm gonna. Go this is
probably a bit of a reach in terms of drafting
with you, guys BUT i think he deserves to be
at this, place AND i wouldn't want to fuck him
LIKE i wouldn't want. TO i wouldn't want to with,
him with, him even though he's no longer with, Us
i'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:35:19):
Go Bob probert, lately enlighten.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
ME i don't, know he's probably he's widely regarded as
one of the toughest fighters IN nhl. History he's the
guy That Greg flair told the. Story, yeah, yeah that's.
Him he's a mean son of a.

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
Gun R i p, good, good puckhead pick right. There
i'd expect nothing, less is it?

Speaker 4 (01:35:41):
Me, yes we're gonna. Enter we're gonna introduce some hoops in, HERE.
Kg Kevin GARNETT, Kk oh my. GOODNESS i was gonna give.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
You some shade for going. Basketball but he's got the.
Eyes he's. HUGE i Wouldn't, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:35:55):
We've heard the stories, Intense, YEAH kg all, day love
a all.

Speaker 3 (01:36:01):
DAY i love.

Speaker 2 (01:36:01):
Him now it's me. Again oh this is.

Speaker 4 (01:36:04):
Tough going fighters feels a little like not like quite,
cheating but it's like a little obvious in some. Cases,
yeah AND i already do Have Mike, tyson but my
gut is wanting to kind of want to put an
ideas in.

Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
There there's a crap out of.

Speaker 3 (01:36:20):
Me they area cal.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
FINUS i, know, man those those skippity, dude those what's?
It what's? That? Uh what's that?

Speaker 4 (01:36:28):
Town he's from up? There that kind of scares, me
even thinking From, stockton right From. Stockton stockton just seems
like they got some some hard.

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
Hitters. Man oh, yeah they're, tough like the mean streets Of.
Stockton Baby stockton is. Tough, yeah grow up going to. Them.
Man tika water slides right next To, stockton living In.
Stockton let's just say we didn't see her very. Often.
DAMN i don't fuck with her. Either, no she.

Speaker 3 (01:36:49):
Was you gotta be tough out, there, dog keep your
head on a, swivel that's.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
MAN i think we're going a little bit of a
ufc ruing. Here i'm gonna go With. HABIB i can't
even pronounce this last. Time i'm not gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:36:59):
TRY i don't want him. TO i was gonna say, him,
WELL i beat, YOU i beat you. Too HE i
think he's, terrifying, too scary and like From. Dakistan like
he's wrestled a bear when he was like.

Speaker 3 (01:37:10):
Ten he's like friends with, bears.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
And he doesn't talk. Shit he like like that whole
like he's the type of person, that just like im'll
take everything that you, say won't say, anything and then
just punish you when he has the chance.

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
To, yeh scary, stuff, wow spooky even spooky seas in you.

Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
Know WHO i ALWAYS i, GOT i got my last
two laid on. ME i always THOUGHT i wasn't scared of,
him BUT i bet like he's just.

Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
She.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
Wallace, yeah, Okay i'm with, you. Dude you know he
just seemed like you didn't want to. Fuck was she
a real deal tough, guy real deal Holy, field tough.

Speaker 4 (01:37:51):
Lot he's CURRENT nba. Guy he faked tough guys out.
There SHE'D i wouldn't mess for.

Speaker 1 (01:37:54):
Sheid, YEAH i think that's. FAIR i agree with.

Speaker 2 (01:37:57):
That my LAST i, MEAN lt was pretty SCARY, o
pretty SCARY. Lt Lawrence Taylor and it's so crazy to
hear people, that like the old timers out were shining
around that, time like when we Had Rick flair or,
anyone there's always one. Constant Lawrence taylor was like the

(01:38:19):
baddest dude. Alive, yeah it really, Is, LIKE i, mean
it's just scary that he didn't even have to go
on sleep and he dominated the league and he still
would have done it. Now he still would have done
it now because if you saw his football, knowledge like
through his, tape and if he was in this day
and age with all the technology and the say like
he would be even that, crazy he'd be that much.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
Crazy here's a question if a guy like that who
was a little rough aer on the edge just did
his own, thing if he had dialed in and been
kind of like A Tom brady level of like craft
and process and showing up early and being dialed, in
do you think that would have made him even better
or was he just the type of guy with that
he needed to be how he was to be how he.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
WAS i think that's JUST i Think i'm almost in
the Latter i'm With, YEAH i don't, KNOW i think
that part of. IT i think that was part of
him there's not you, know some guys there's multiple ways
to getting to the. Top some guys are Like, brady
some guys are LIKE.

Speaker 4 (01:39:16):
ILT i love how everybody's got AN elt story, too
everyone and THEN i can't tell you on.

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
It they say they got him Know, SO i, MEAN
i was gonna pick this, Anyway but.

Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
That's that's how scary he. Is, yes everyone has AN lt,
story and if they give us AN elt, story they
don't give us the one alpha camera because they don't
want to piss OFF. Lt he was smoking at The giants.
Game did you see that he was smoking a. CIGAR
i don't think anyone could smoke In New york any,

(01:39:47):
like indoors In New york, anywhere Or Jersey. Like it's
one of the most critically places that you can't smoke indoors.
NOWADAYS i, mean they, say we're not. Talking that's. Crazy
no one's going to be the show o guy that
goes up and, says, oh put that out TO.

Speaker 1 (01:40:02):
Lt fire. Marks, Yeah i'll put that out in your.
Eye God, God SO i was gonna do this pick
even before you PICKED. Lt but my, GUY i THINK
lt might have been scared of. Himself don't say It Bill, parcells.

Speaker 3 (01:40:15):
The Big tony.

Speaker 2 (01:40:16):
RIGHT i MEAN i got to meet. Coach well he,
was he, was.

Speaker 1 (01:40:20):
He was older and his grandfather now but still.

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
Yeah but he he. Was he basically said to me
at at The hall Of, FAME i WISH i would
have got my hands on.

Speaker 3 (01:40:28):
You that's what he said to.

Speaker 1 (01:40:30):
Me, yeah both literally and figured.

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
No like and now we're over here bitching and complaining
about that one coach that nudged the.

Speaker 3 (01:40:38):
Player oh, yeah just Like game one hundred. Grand.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
Fine, LOOK i don't like guys touching. Guys And i've
heard other people say, like, oh coach would have touched
me to Beat, no you. WOULDN'T i rather get touched
than get. Cut don't drump the. BALL i rather get
touched and and then and yelled at then cut print
up the social graphic for that. One that's a great

(01:41:04):
he's dropping shoulders Into travis.

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
Coach, yeah, bro this is this is special. Football. Okay
So Bill.

Speaker 1 (01:41:08):
Parcells is the type of scary maybe not like, well
he was big and.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
PHYSICALLY i THINK i think actually Saw James harrison said
he would have beat the shot out of the, coach
WHICH i believe you remember one Time Algie, Crumpler algae
shout Out. Algie scottio got up in his face And algae, said,
hey don't talk to me like that ever.

Speaker 3 (01:41:25):
Again and he's, like all right over To Bill, yeah
no To. Scottio, YEAH i love.

Speaker 2 (01:41:32):
That it was, funny, Dude, GOD i Love there's some
guys that have that aura though on the team that
could say, that but clearly that, KID i, MEAN i don't,
know IT'S i thought it was a little.

Speaker 3 (01:41:43):
Much one hundred thousand oh. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:41:46):
Yeah, also don't drop the ball on the one yard
line in the. Celebration, look you gotta think about, This.

Speaker 2 (01:41:51):
Dokay there's people's jobs on the line over, this, Okay
and you're in the middle of a. Battle there's a
lot of ship that's done and SAID i motherfuck people
people of mother fucked, me almost fist fought my best
friend Slate like that stuff happens in a high stress
environment in.

Speaker 3 (01:42:08):
Football.

Speaker 2 (01:42:08):
NOW i know the league don't want to see, that
and they don't want to portray that that was a little.

Speaker 1 (01:42:12):
MUCH i, think, like how much of your whole time
of hundreds of people like putting their time and energy
and effort and practice and.

Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
Studies it's not just about the, people like the guys
on the. Team it's the freaking little lunch. Ladies it's
the people in the everyone that works for the. Organization
they all get paid if we. Win, yep that's how
important this. Is and then for celebration that's the. Worst you,
know the. Organization it's crazy because we talked about it

(01:42:39):
on our Show Fox kickoff With Charles, wits and he
did like one of these coat he does his little
he coaches up the, youth and he was coaching them.
Up he's, like, yo let's just you're the ball that
and then it happened right after you just gotta Watch.

Speaker 4 (01:42:54):
KICKOFF i want my Guys forrest gumping that. Thing you
were run all the way up to the tunnel With Forest.

Speaker 1 (01:42:58):
Gump, yes come, on, hey so now we're way after this.
Thing that would be really cool if someone does. That
if he does, THAT i don't know how much iss gonna. Playing,
yeah that's the, celebrator keep. RUNNING i had him starting
to in my. Fantasy and that's Why i'm pissed.

Speaker 4 (01:43:12):
Too oh my, gosh we're not talking about that trade you?
College DID i get taken for talking ABOUT i got?
Fleet we haven't even talked about, that yet she talked
about who's your next? One different story for it every.
DAY i Love Algie crumpling, though my last, one my last.
One this Is i'm glad you guys left him on
the board here in honor of a race A nascar

(01:43:33):
episode they learned hard. Baby his name is The Intimidator
Dale Senior man raised hal Praise, dale my guy number,
three the legend R i p Lu Dale, man what
an intimidating.

Speaker 2 (01:43:47):
DUDE i MEAN i saw behind you if you saw
them sunglasses that he wore that stash r P Dale
like all, right p, MAN i still remember watching, that
not watching, it BUT i remember it was a big
deal WHEN i was a.

Speaker 3 (01:43:59):
KID i, Remember.

Speaker 1 (01:44:00):
Yeah it was just it was, YEAH i mean it was, crazy, Yeah,
God and.

Speaker 2 (01:44:07):
It didn't even look like it's the ones that you.
Know you it just got him the right way because
he didn't get flip or. Anything he just hit. It
but it was fast like the people that. Know but
it was, forceful. Forceful.

Speaker 1 (01:44:18):
Yeah that was the scariest.

Speaker 2 (01:44:21):
Student sorry that one on some real scary we. DID
i like you uh like to imagine we do sort
of A U.

Speaker 4 (01:44:32):
A little bit of A West Side story meet up
if you, will with all of our groups here somewhere like, yeah,
yeah a little bit of an we all meet in
the park. ONE i don't, Know, BRO i THINK.

Speaker 2 (01:44:45):
I Think i'm taking my.

Speaker 3 (01:44:46):
Team your team's pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:44:47):
GOOD i don't.

Speaker 3 (01:44:47):
Know kabib's over, there that's pretty. Scary my team's pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:44:51):
GOOD i mean in Ally, Tyson, Yeah parcels And James
harrison on the same. Team and THAT'S a AND. Kg
that's length and just. GETAWAY i bet You dale or
a fight though with, him beat the funk out of, you.

Speaker 1 (01:45:12):
Simulator we should we should have people vote on.

Speaker 2 (01:45:15):
THIS i mean L t is pre A Rashid, Nolan.

Speaker 3 (01:45:19):
Ronnie this is our best version of.

Speaker 1 (01:45:21):
Drafting usually you guys do terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:45:22):
Teams hey we.

Speaker 1 (01:45:24):
Do now they're actually EVEN.

Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
I draft Like Matt millan out, There Bro wide.

Speaker 4 (01:45:28):
Receivers it's. Crazy be some crazy gang. Fights this would
be dude meet in the parkring a. TRIDENT i think
ours wins because i'd BE i could beat you two.

Speaker 3 (01:45:39):
Up SO.

Speaker 1 (01:45:41):
I don't, know mister, sir you know WHAT i.

Speaker 2 (01:45:43):
MEAN i don't know about them because that they can
all kill each other. Out BUT i got you Three
i'm not even so we're gonna win. THAT i don't
even argue that. One think we got that into a
ball cowur really. Good what time this comes? Up Wins
jock kill the. Guy you should lay low for a little.

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Speaker 3 (01:46:19):
Responsibly well what a. Race that was.

Speaker 2 (01:46:22):
FUN a lot of great, history a lot of great
names in that. Race, ah that was just a that's
A nascar. Gem that's that's like A nascar springboard. Gem fucking.
Race gordon the two, times like the, Storylines kyle getting
us first and having the success he had from then.

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