November 6, 2025 • 36 mins
We've got a bonus mini-episode for you this week! We've got the BEST of Gronk & Jules talking about their teammate and great friend, Tom Brady. There's no shortage of stories when it comes to The GOAT...
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, let's go into our next bomb bompo. I'm
sure we're gonna go for more than ten minutes. We've
already went for more than ten minutes. Who's our next guest? Tom? Alright?
I mean, oh wow? All right? Who's our next guest, Julian.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Our next guest is Thomas Edward Patrick Brady. Now, let's
see what AI has what to say about TV two
guys that know him pretty well. Let's see if AI
knows him just as well? All right, started the clock.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Let's see. Let's see if AI is really living up
to the standards. Let's see he's everyone's saying last two? AI,
all right, Tom Brady is a legendary NFL quarterback. Well,
they're already wrong because he's not a legendary NFL quarterback.
He was an NFL legendary quarterback? Or is he? Does
AI know he's Tom? Is a? Hey, I know something
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that we don't know? Right, HEYI is living up to
the standards. Fans Kyle Shanahan still wants them with the Niners,
even though maybe AI is up to something. Right now,
he is up I see, he's a renowned for his
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record seven Super Bowl victories and five Super Bowl MVP Awards.
Off the field, he is known for his disciplined lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Very disciplined, TV twelve method, business ventureslash business ventures, a
lot of business ventures, owns teams, lots of teams, raiders
potentially coming up soon.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
And philanthropic efforts.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
A lot of giving back to the kids, best buddies
for a long time.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yes, and what about the kids he helped become superstars?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, he helped us out too, were part of that.
It doesn't go in that's not full anthropy. But no,
that's his biggest philanthropy right there. It was definitely okay,
helping us kids out.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
He helped us a lot, all right, Oh, including his
work with the TB twelve Foundation which you just mentioned and.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
TV twelve Foundation. Brady's leadership, He's a leader. Resilience, guys,
fucking resilient and commitment, Come on, Jules, as he committed.
This guy has committed like no other to excellence have
made him an iconic figure?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Is he iconic? Fucking he's got to order the most
iconic guy's gotta iconic figure both in sports and infinity
and beyond. Is infinites and beyond. But I added that
little bite of buzz light year, you know, spectacle aspect
into it. I like that.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I like that, but I can't believe a I didn't
one thing that AI didn't get. This guy's his compartment.
His compartmentalization skill is fucking outrageous. That's what when anyone
asked me, like what is he could literally have so
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many things going around, going going on in his life,
but when it was time for work, he could blur
all that out and think about what that workday was
and fucking get the most out of that workday every day.
Which some would say that's like a serial killer or
some kind of maniac mindset. I would say, that's like
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the greatest of all time. Yes, Jules, that's a great point.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I actually never thought of that, and that's one hundred
percent accurate. And that's actually contributes to why he was
so great, is that he could ignore the noise, whatever
is going on out there, whatever the situation was, it
didn't matter, and he would, Yeah, he would use that
anyways he was using as fuel. It would be diesel fuel,
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it would be normal, normal fuel, it would freaking super
rated fuel, it didn't matter.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Usually a few freaking gas stations have that fuel fill
up that engine, and he had diesel engine, he had
freaking premium engine.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
He had ally engine in the book jet engine and
that's what made him so great. And he used that
fuel and he burned all that fuel too.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
This is probably terrible. There's so many He burned so
much fuel that he killed literally so much of the
ozone layer that he's a fucking hazard.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
To our environment because that's how much fuel he burns.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
With the motivation and his compartmentalization factors, that's how much
fuel he's burning.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
And that and that jet was full go every single time.
You know, when you get on a plane, you're like,
this freaking pilot, better drive this plane or fly this
plane as fast as possible. Well, drive it too freaking
on the runway to get to the runway to freaking
take off a sap, So fly it and drive it
as fast as possible. That's this guy. And he's got headwinds,
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so you're actually using more fuel. Yeah, the fuel never
ran out.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
The guy has fucking airplanes that come out while you're flying.
Have you seen that where they use the fucking piece
and while they're flying in the air and the connecting
the connecting limited. Yeah, that's and that is Alex. Alex
Is the little airplane. Oh man, he just has so
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much fuel. I mean, oh, that was so good. That
was so good.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
There they are, look at there's alex Is fueling time up. Wow. Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
And that's something that happen. That's a love thing out
Alex because he him going.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Keeps them going. Man. Well, let's get to some accolades.
I mean, first he was he was picked one sixth
round in the two thousand draft. I mean, I'm sure
everyone knows that by now. He was with the Patriots
from two thousand to twenty nineteen, and then with the
Bucks two thousand to twenty twenty two. And actually I
just got a quiz on him. How many years did
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he play in the NFL? And it was right before
I talked to him two weeks ago on Fox, Kurt
Menafie asked me we played a little live game. Hey,
how well do you know your teammate Tom Brady goes?
How many more years did Tom Brady play in the
NFL than you? And I played eleven years? And I
thought Tom Brady played twenty four years. I actually got
it wrong. He played twenty three years in the NFL.
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So shame on me. But it was better to be
over on that than the hit it right on the nose.
But that's how many years he played? Is that? I
just know it was so many I couldn't even keep
track anymore. He played eleven years more years than he played,
eleven years more than you, in twelve years more than me.
That is fucking I played twelve I played eleven years
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in the NFL, and he played more years in the
NFL that I put in NFL. He that without me?
Does that make sense? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, like if you I don't know what that's called,
but that's a math term.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, that's called the whole. That's called goat.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
That's fucking goat gioat. Yeah, that's called jet fuel. Alex's
jet fuel.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Alex's jet fuel. Yeah. What was the first time you
met Tom? The first time I met Tom was actually
what was pretty wild. When I was at the University
of Arizona. You know, I was doing my interview. I
had a couple of touchdowns that game. I was showing
off my touchdown celebrations and then the lady interviewing me,
she's like, who do you see being your quarterback in
the NFL? And obviously right on the spot, I go,
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Tom Brady would be the best quarterback to have in
the NFL, and especially a great fit for me. And
that was just the answer, you know. And then I
did my touchdown dances and all that, and then what happens.
I get drafted to the Patriots and Tom Brady becomes
my quarterback in the NFL. It was like I manifested
it when I was in college. I manifested a lot
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of things. And if you ask Tom, Tom's probably really
big into manifesting his manifest He manifested all his Super
Bowls because right after he won a Super Bowl, he
would already have a clock counting down to the next next.
So he was manifesting like crazy. You just learned so
much knowledge from him, and he's done so many things
right to be able to get to, uh you know,
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nature of where he is now. It wasn't like he
just had the athletic ability. He showed up. He did
everything right and he put the time in that you
can never argue against him, can't. You can't a bed.
So let's get let's get back to what was I
talking about again? I don't know, I just got Yeah,
I got at the first time I met him. It
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was in the training room. I was getting my ankles
taped and he walked in. So I was there already
for the rookie camps, the rookie practices, and he just
walks up to me. He goes, hey, Rob, I'm Tom Brady.
And I was like, oh wow, this guy already knows
my name. I mean, that's also makes him so great
as well, is that he already knows all the rookies names,
all the guys that were drafted, what rounds they were
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drafted in, what type of player they already were, because
he wants to know, you know, their athletic ability, you
know what type of guy they are, so he can
understand them so he can be on the same page
as events out of them, so he can get the
best out of them as well, like you said, and
he could have that connections to help win games, so
he can be on the same you know, wavelength as them.
So he already knew my name, came up to me,
and I just thought it was the coolest thing. Man.
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I just said, hey, man, nice to meet you. It
was just super quick. He left. What did you think
in your head? And Tom Brady knew my name and
that was the greatest honor to shake his hand while
getting my ankles taped.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
And then he goes wins four super Bowls with them.
That's crazy. I had a similar story.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, what was it like when you met him? What
was that story?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I was going from, like you said, we were already
in there. When you're a rookie, you get in there before.
Back in our day, you get in there before the
vets reported, and so you'd be there for like three weeks,
did rookie camp and learning installations of everything. And so
I had a big book. We all had these books.
It was like a five inch Remember those old old
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binders before we had iPads, We used to have big
old binders.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I didn't like carrying them around. I left mine in
my locker when I went home. Yeah, even though you
were supposed to bring it home to study, I was like,
I ain't carrying that binder. I used to carry it,
You did I do? I was just trying to make.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
So I'm over here, getting five minutes before the special
Teams meeting. It's true, and I'm running through and the
vets came in, and I saw the vets coming because
I saw well in the in the cafeteria.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Didn't say a word to me. I was, but I
wanted to big time a little bit that.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I had a leather jacket. He looks cool. He looks
like when you guys big time each other, it's entertainment
for me.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
All right.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Back to time though, And so I knew they were
in but I was going to my meeting and he
walks through the door, you know, the entrance of the
locker room from the hall. He walks in there and
he goes, I like, look at him. I dropped my book.
I'm like, oh shit, this dude is taller than I thought.
And he goes, hey, I'm Tom. I go Jules. He goes,
I know we have the same agent. Dragon's my agent too,
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or something something like that. And I was like, nice
to meet you, and you could I felt the same
way you felt, like.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Damn, he knew my name. That's fucking crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
But he knew that he knew everyone's name, and he
made everyone feel special, and that that was part of
his leadership skill, you know, like what made him such
an unbelievable leader, from the meal ladies to you know,
the people in the equipment room, the training staff, like
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it didn't matter what was going on, how the day went.
He was always a pretty cool dude to everyone, and
everyone was always watching him, you know what I mean.
And that's when you're the quarterback of the team, Everyone
no matter what is going on in your life, is
watching that person and to see how they react to everything,
the success, the failure. Your eyes go to that guy,
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you know. And he was the perfect guy for us,
especially when we were young knuckleheads, to look at like,
all right, this is how you have to do it.
He gave you the example and he was just a fucking.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
He gave us the blueprint on how to become a reliable, talented,
you know player that you needed to be to help
the team win games. He gave us the blueprint on
how to become a star out there on the field.
He gave us the blueprint on how to make plays,
how to go out there and have that mindset ready
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to go, and also be mentally and physically ready at
all times on the practice field and on the game field.
There's no doubt about that. And he didn't just give
you a blueprint. He showed you the way too. Showed you, Yes,
he showed you, Hey, this is where I want you
on this route. This is when you need to look
at me. This is where the ball is going to
change you. Yes, he trained you to be like that.
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Oh wait, oh, wait, oh you want to take a break.
Hey man, I'm telling you your mind will let you
go farther. Let's go four more routes, let's go. You
got to be able to be on the same pace
as me. You got to be right here. Be more physical,
Be more physical. You're bigger than everyone. Run his ass
over and turn around and the ball will be there,
I promise you. And if you don't hit that guy,
if you're not physical, guess what, the ball is not
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going to come to you. He would just lay it
out just like that. His leadership was just what's that
word where it's just brutally honest. Yes, brutally honest. And
that's what made him so great too. So like with him,
that's what he always harped to gronk with me.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I remember in those because a lot of times we
would get that coaching in the offseason when he would
go fly out somewhere we would throw together, you know,
because there's times where you would do it.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
There was times that I would do it.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
He would always try to get his throes in with
his guys. And for me, he'd always come up to
me and like, hey, I need you to be here.
I need you to be like a boxer. You know
you can't you can't be You can't just do what
the thing shows you on the paper. You have to
feel it out. You got to set things up with
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your jab and then you use your right. You know,
it's like a box. You got to be more savvy
in your route running. That's I remember you saying that.
And then he'd always say, like, you got to run
like a fucking you got to be able to run.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
You got to be able to run all day.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
And like you said, when you were tired, we would
do those sets of routes. He'd make you do three
or four extra ones and he would say you'd line up,
and you would you'd think that the drill was done,
and he would say, oh, there is offsides on a
penalty on your teammates, or there was a holding call
or PI, or we got to redo it. And he
knew you were dog dead, but he wanted to see.
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He wanted to get everything out of you when you
were on empty. He wanted to see what kind of
guy you were, and he wanted to show you that's
what he expected in game time.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
And a word that you could have used in there
as well. That kind of sums it up a little bit.
As he loved a decisive route, run decisive side. He
didn't care if the paper said run ten yards and
run out. He didn't care one bit. He cared about
being decisive on the practice field and taking that decisiveness
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and bringing it to the game field. He goes, Hey,
if you're gonna run twelve yards even though it's a
ten yard route, or if you're gonna run eight yards
and it's gonna be a little short, just be decisive. Let
me know when you're gonna break out. Let me know
when you're gonna break down, so I can get that
ball out and I can read you. I don't need
you to have fifteen steps where you're slow. I think
you're going to go to the left and then you
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go to the right side. No, be decisive, and if
you're decisive, I will find you and that ball will
be out and it will be right on point. That's
what he said. What's the biggest misconception of him? You
think the biggest misconception of Tom Brady. I think he
said he's cool. Is that yeah, he is cool. No,
I think that's the biggest misconception. He's not that cool. Depends.
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That's the misconception right there, because he's cool when he's comfortable.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
He's cool if he's comfortable in the situation. I think
he's not cool when he's comfortable. I think when he's
around us, he's kind of like a dork. Yeah, a
little bit. And then when I mean to everyone else
he's the coolest guy, which I still think he's the
coolest guy ever. But then when you have him around,
you're like, he's really kind of a dork.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
There's some situations where you know, if if he's comfortable,
he's more himself, yes, yes, and he's more like you know,
like like dad, like if he knows all the cameras
are shut off, like he can finally just have something
to be Tom. Yeah, he's kind of dorky. Okay, okay,
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I like, but you need a little dorky in your
your quarterback. You do. Mostly all quarterbacks are a little dorky,
and that's what makes some quarterbacks, I mean, not all
of them, but I'm saying it's kind of like just
a trait what quarterbacks have, but a little bit, just
a little bit in them. He is cool, but he's
a little dorky. But you just said he's not cool. No,
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the biggest misconception he's cool. He always keeps a chip
on his shoulder always, always. That's work. I think everyone
knows that work ethic, I know, But I'm just giving
some facts about him. What else is a misconception? Mmmm,
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that he's not clutch. No, that's not even a misconception.
Everyone knows he's clutched. Yeah, I just wanted to try
to throw you off, jewels.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
How about this guy also played baseball and got drafted, Yeah,
by the Expos Montreal. No wonder why he didn't go
and play baseball the Expos. I mean they have a
cool hat, they do, got cool colors. They're gone though
they're not even there.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
No, So I mean that's why he didn't want to
go there. He's like, oh man, my legacy. I go there,
the team's going to be gone. That means I'm going
to be gone. I want to last forever. I'll go
to the New England Patriots instead.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah, he was in high school when he got drafted.
He went to the He went to the same house
he was going to the Patriots. Yeah, he went to that.
I remember, well, we grew up in the same area.
So he went to the same high school as Lynn Swan,
Barry Bonds. There's like so many really good athletes to
come out of that freaking school, Sarah, it's all boys school.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
What what was the moment that Tom made you the
most annoyed?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Oh my god, when I would return punts, Like I
remember my rookie year. It was the freaking preseason game.
It was my first punt return and there was a
repunt and I ended up housing the second one, but
the first one. I see Tom on the sideline and
he's got a little anxiety because it's his first game
from his knee. So he's like he was like coaching
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me up on how to return a punt. He's like,
just get up there, just get up there. I'm sitting
there and I'm looking at him, like, fuck, this guy.
This guy has never done this. He does not know
what I'm feeling right now. I was so annoyed with him.
And then then they repunted it and I housed it
and I.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Fucking slammed the ball against it.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Thing.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I was fired up, and I was like, I was
so annoyed with them, Like this guy is.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
He's never felt what it fills when the guys are
running full This is new to me. I never felt
it either at the time, so like, fuck this guy,
let me do what I gotta do.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
It is not a run. And I was so annoyed
with him. I'll tell you mine what was yours. When
I was a rookie, and I couldn't get outside of
the defender on a flag route which is flag rout,
which is a corner route, so you run about ten
twelve yards and you you know, you give a little
stick and you break it forty five degrees and run
a corner route. And the defender was always outside of me,
sitting at like squatting at ten yards, and he's always says,
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get outside. If you have a flag route corner route,
you gotta get outside of the defender or else I
will never throw you the freaking ball. So I was
a rookie. I was kind of like clunky. So I
wasn't really that athletic as a rookie. You know, I
wasn't running.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Routside right Doubleday's And yeah, I was tired as well.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I couldn't get outside, and in practice, I didn't get
outside of the guy. He's like two three yards outside
of me too, and I'm trying to fake him like
I'm going inside and trying to get around him on
the corner and Brady just turns around in the meeting
because it's on film, and he turns around. He goes, Gronk,
I'm fucking done throwing you the ball. I told you
fifty times to get outside. You're not getting outside. And
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like I got all sad and alge Crumper started patting
my leg and he's like, it's okay, Gronk, he doesn't
mean it. And I was like, yeah he does, alg Man,
he means it. And let me tell you this time,
you fucking throw me the ball like a thousand times
after so I knew he was all bullshit time telling
me he was never gonna throw me the ball again.
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I was literally like but that fired me up. I
was like, all right, I'm gonna show this guy. But
that's the leadership he had. He was brutally honest, honest,
and he would freaking get you to go to the
next level, which was crazy, which was crazy. He was
so good at it. But I was so annoyed because
I couldn't get outside the guy. I'm like, I want
to Big Tom, run the freaking route. I guarantee you
can't get outside the guy either. He's three hours outside
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of me. And then if I got outside him, it
was basically like an out route I was running because
I would have to flatten it so much so I
couldn't really run the corner round and you get in
the other responsibility to the other guy, Well, he just
wanted to get a defender in practice, he's playing the play, yeah,
and then and he knew the place. He just wanted
to get the point across, ye like. So it was
just always in my memory, and every time I ran
a route, it was kind of just like on autopilot,
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just to get outside of the defender. So I was
annoyed at that, and you know, with that situation, but uh,
you know, times of change, I started running routes where
I would go inside the guy and then he would
still throw me the ball as well later on, because
he's like, all right, he proved, he proved it enough
that you can do it. Well, then you guys start
throwing the back shoulder shit. Yeah, and then we started
doing all that. Also, I also used.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
To get really annoyed when in meeting rooms if he
liked you, and I felt both of these. I felt
when he liked the guy, he'd like, he would like
love them up, and then there'd be so like when
when Wes was there. I get so annoyed when I
would do the exact same thing that Wes to do
and he he wouldn't think it was good, and I
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would get so fucking annoyed with him.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
But I remember when Wes left, then I was that guy.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
There was guys doing trying to do that what I
would do and he wouldn't, So like I would get
annoyed with that so much when he would always bring up, like, babe,
just do it a little more like Wessy. He called
him Wessy. When he called him Wessy, You remember Wessy. Hm,
I used to get so annoyed.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
You want to know what I would get annoyed with
him too. It's like we're in the off season. We
just ran fifty routes. It's like you and I out there,
only we're dead tired. It's ninety degrees outside middle of
the summer. And he'd be like one more, just one
more route, because he's just throwing the ball. His arm
can throw one hundred and fifty passes a day, and
we're running the freaking fifty routes and he's been one more,
So then we would run, run more. We give it all.
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We're about to throw up. It's the middle of the summer.
We probably are hungover. He has no clue what that's
like because he used to he used to see him though, Yeah,
and then he became lame. Yeah, he became lame for
like a couple of years. Nah, he back in the day.
I guess he wasn't the lame. If you're saying he's
not lame, he was lame, Okay, say it, Jules. You
know he was lame.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, like when it came when it came to that,
he was lame.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
But we didn't get him when he was young. Yeah,
I know, he was already thirty three when I first
met him. And then when thirty freaking lame at thirty
three years old, complaint. Compare it to when I was
freaking twenty eight years old.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
You're right, because then he was twenty three, twenty four.
He was the there's you know, he was the best
chugger on the team. He was like he was a
dude's dude.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
So back to the story, like he'd be one more
and then you would. You would run one more route,
and they'd beck one more and then you just be like, Tom,
I'm not off and running one more. I just ran
fifty routes, you know, one more, but one more you
want to get better? One more and then it'd be
like fifteen more routes and then finally it was the
last one.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
And it was fifty and then you get to seventy five.
He's like he just wanted seventy five throws. Yeah he
was seven five throws. Whatever Tom says, you do, you
got you, son. I remember those days, man, This what
made us great though. What was the moment that, like
you felt like you truly gained his trust and that
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he could rely on you even if you mess up again,
he knows that you're still reliable. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
What was that moment? What was that catch? What was
that play if it was a practice or if it
was left well, because he loved he loved West. You
just were not playing when West was okay, Jules, No,
but you couldn't have Tom Brady's trust when you were
when you were on, when west left, you didn't like
a bunch of players. Okay, he didn't like it. It
was when he left he had no one. He had
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to trust me. You had all right, and then it
was weird.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
It was we one in thirteen where we played Buffalo
and we went out there and we won. I had
two touchdowns and that's when I felt like all right,
because we had some we had some spurts were you know,
Westwood would get banged up and he wouldn't play.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
But he didn't like trust me, trust.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Me until you had to be the guy, until you
had to be the guy.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yes, and then he truly trusted you. And that's the situation.
Though he doesn't really trust a guy that you know, yeah,
he's not able to throw to. He's got to see
eighteen times practice, you know, he has to see it.
He has to do the repetitions with you in order
to truly gain your trust. And it doesn't happen overnight. Now,
he gained your trust and you gain his trust as well,
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you know, just over time, over time. I would say
my situation was when we played the Chicago Bears. On
the one on one panther route when I was going
over in the snow. Yeah, versus Brian or Lacker, and
he wanted to gain my trust. He wants to see
me be physical. That's why he always emphasized me, be
fucking physical. Gronk your two hundred and sixty pounds you're
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going versus one hundred eighty pounders or linebackers that you're
still bigger than Be physical and h This was the
play panther out one out run. I run into the
end zone, kind of hit the guy with my shoulder
and then turn around and the ball will be right there.
Because when you're physical, you know, pushes the guy back
a little bit. When you use your shoulder, you turn around,
then there's that little ounce of separation and Tom can
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see that. He can see the field. He can see
all the separation in the world. He's it, he sees it.
He can see every little detail that's going out on
the field. And when he sees that little detail on
that route, you know, with the physicality knows he knows
that you're going to be open. There's gonna be a
little window. I hit Brian Urlack and we practice it
in that Friday. He says, I want to see that
in the game because I ran it great on Friday.
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So the game comes when I won versus Brian Laker,
give him the shoulder turn right around the balls, right there,
nice and low where it's always supposed to be in
the red zone. Boom catch it and ever since then
I gained Tom Brady's trust right there and then on
the spot, which was one of the greatest moments of
my career.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, I remember that he is you know, he had
to see it. That's what makes him. He's a dog man,
he's assassin.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
He is an assassin. Which your favorite Tone memory? My
favorite Tom memory is actually, this is one of my
favorite memories of all time. You know, when we were
playing the Indianapolis Colts and I ran that five yard
out route, caught it versus d Kwyl Jackson. I did
a little spin move, he kind of fell, did a
little splait. It was like a very great route by me.
Great after the catch too, and then I'm running, you know,
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I'm going. There's a couple other guys and here comes
Julian adamman Ka. Boom just absolutely levels Adams the safety
you know, gets them out of my way. I'm like,
thanks Jules for the block, you know, and then I'm
running into the end zone. I jump over Butler. Yeah, dB, yeah, DBI.
What's his first name again, Yeah, Darius Butler, who was
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previously on the on the Patriots and then he went
to the Colts and now he's doing he's doing a
great job in the media. Yeah, it was a McAfee show.
He's doing a great job. So shout out to Darius Butler.
But I jumped over his ass, made me look goods
flipped into the end zone. I looked like an athletic
one hundred and eighty pound wide receiver. And then this
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was the moment, one of my favorite moments with him.
Tom loved the route, loved the catch, loved your block.
He was so pumped up. He ran full speed from
the thirty guy line, and probably because I got him
a touchdown on a play where it never should have
been a touchdown. Yeah, and he came running full speed
and jumped on my back and went for a ride. Man.
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He was He was like a pony on a horse. Man.
I brought him for a ride. Man. I was carrying
Tom Brady around in the freaking end zone.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
He was.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
On my back, put the pony on the horses. I
was waiting for him to drop that quarter in so
the rock can keep on going. Yes, I didn't want
him to get off. I was like, Tom Brady's on
my back, like like, what else do I need in
my life? Oh my god. Yeah, And it's one of
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my favorite pictures to sign to this day as well.
I don't think he ever signed it. It costs like
five billion dollars to get him to sign a picture.
So like I he signed the picture on my back,
and like I'm waiting for that picture to be worth
a lot more money once he signs it. The couple,
you know. But he hasn't signed it yet. Man, that
was a fucking fun play. That was a fun play.
(29:13):
Thank you for that block. Oh you level Adams. Adams,
he's talking in the safety. We used to battle. He
was with Denver Battle. He battled us a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Man.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
He brought it, He brought it to and he wasn't scared.
He was good. Yeah, there it is. There's a picture
right there. Oh wait, he signed there it is. Man,
he's going for a ride. I'm still waiting for those corners. Tom.
Oh my gosh, there's Tim right right in the back too.
We won the super Bowl this year, didn't we? And
we won the super Bowl this year? Yeah, yeah, I
think it was who Man was was a tight end
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as well in the two tim right and who Man?
I love who Man?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
All right?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
What was your favorite memory, Jules? My favorite memory was when.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
We it it kind of that fourteen when he, uh,
we hit that route. He came up to me afterwards
and he and he goes, that was a championship route, man,
and like it was nothing crazy, that's special. And he
when he you know, he goes, that was a championship play, man.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
And we didn't win the game yet to right him
saying that's a championship route. That's a championship play. That
means a lot.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, And and then afterwards when he we won, you know,
like that was his That was when he got four
and I just remember, you know, there were so many
memories of him, like you said, how he's having the
ticker of the super Bowl location and the whole story
where I said, man, I'm gonna help you try to
get to Joe, and because we were both Bay Area fans,
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love Joe Montana and I told me he was the
greatest quarterback.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Of all time.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
And you know that all that was just a fun memory.
There's so many it's it's hard to fucking do one kind,
all right. I mean, I'm gonna start crying.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
I know me too. There's there's a lot of memories
with Tom. It's just great to see him. He's doing
so good in the broadcasting booth. I mean, if he
just puts in ten percent of the effort that he
did with the game of football in his after career,
in his post career after football, he's gonna have the
whole world just which you know he is to eat from.
He's gonna be successful and anything that he does, and
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that's what he's gonna do. He's actually gonna go one
hundred percent all in with what he does. He's great
in the booth, like I said, and he's been improving
so much every single week and it just shows he
is actually a human. I mean, Week one, he was good,
he got the win, but he definitely could improve. And
then all of a sudden Week two and three, You're like,
what the heck? How did he just go from being
like a rookie quarterback to a veteran quarterback in one week?
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In the broadcast booth, So just shout out to him.
I mean, he dedicates himself and he works on his
craft like like no one ever has before. And that's
what makes him, you know, the greatest, the greatest.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Whatever he cares about making the people look right that
give him opportunity, he does.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
That's he cares about that. He takes it to heart,
and he cares about showing the people that has passed
on him that they fucked up too. Yeah, he loves that.
He likes that. So don't ever pass on Tom Brady. No,
I won't.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
The only thing I'll pass on is that I was
kind of a little hesitant when I said he was lame,
But he was pretty lame except for when he wins
a Super Bowl in Tampa Bay and he gets hammered
on a damn boat.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Like, where was that fucking Tom around us? I was bullshit,
Like I was waiting for that the whole entire time
in New England. I was to That's why I went
to Tampa Bay. I went there for that moment. I
didn't really want to play football again. I just wanted
that moment that I could actually get wasted with Tom.
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But guess what he was on a separate boat than me.
I didn't even see him at the atme. So guess what.
I still never had a drink with Tom. It took
me all the way until the Roast to have a
drink with Tom Brady. And that's why it was in
the roast. I said, Tom, I never had a shot
with you ever in my life or a drink, and
he took a shot with me at the roast. So
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that was that was a cool moment. Yeah, well, I
mean it's been thirty three minutes. How long can we
talk about this guy? I think maybe we should have
him on again for another episode because I got literally
I can talk about this guy all day long. I
could go literally two hours. The more we talk about him,
the more stories that pop up in my head. Same,
the more stories about him on the field, off the field,
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what it's like to be around him. We could talk
literally for four hours straight. Jewels, what kind of dude?
Tell me what time of well? What type of dude
is Tom Brady? Ladies and gentlemen, I think this is easy,
freak dog whiz, I think this is easy. Dude, Dude,
I don't know, what do you think If it's easy
let's hear what. Let's sake easy. He's a fucking dog.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
He is a dog, mental, physical, toughness, always motivated. He
didn't have the pedigree he was he was. We saw
the Brady six of the the six guys before him
taking in the draft. Like he always had to go
to long road. He always had to work for everything.
Even when he was at his top, they were always
talking about someone else.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
He's a fucking dog. I want to say freak, because
a freak is like someone that has like the most
athletic ability in the world. And he didn't really have
the most athletic ability. But what's made him so great
was that he didn't need the athletic ability because the
dog was working harder than the athletic dog. You know
that wasn't the freak dog that really or the freaky
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person that wasn't really working.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I think he's got illness like shooting, like basically like
it's kind of.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Like an archer freak instincts. He could throw, Yes, he
can throw rocks really good.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
He could probably skip a rock really really really has
he probably really good pool? Yeah, like pong king pomp
When I said you always beat him, never mind he's
not good poles.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, he gets really mad when he loves. That's a dog.
That is a dog. That's a dog. He wants to
want to go again, though, wants to go go, he won't.
He wants to go again. Won't let you fucking leave.
I mean, we haven't even got to This guy's looks
got either. I mean we can just say that he's
a stud real quick, just because of how good he looks.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, I mean he looks younger than when Yeah he
got in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Like his chins, jawline freaking just his beautiful blue eyes.
He posted a picture of that day on Instagram. Like
he's got like a six pack now, like his arms
are jacked, like, I mean he's doing two days.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
He is doing to days. He's doing two days right now.
He's got his body, he's still. So that's why maybe
A I was fucking right, he's maybe coming back.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
AI is is Tom Brady coming back? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
He got six pack, he got a little his hair
is looking as brown as ever. He amy the supplement
that he saw my great hair, and he goes babe
here and he's take this fucking uisha. I think it's
like uisha ou or something in some Chinese medicine and.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
You put it in the shake and my hair is
already growing. It is my hair darker. That's why I
don't have a hat show. I wanted to show off
my hair because I've got we shall product. It's like
I don't know how to pronounce oo oshi. I got hair.
I don't whatever it is. Look at how good his
hair looks. It's just a good looking guy. Man. He's
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a dog, all right. He's a dog. He is a dog.
It's official. Tom Brady is a dog man. We can
talk about him forever, forever,
All right, let's go into our next bomb bompo. I'm
sure we're gonna go for more than ten minutes. We've
already went for more than ten minutes. Who's our next guest? Tom? Alright?
I mean, oh wow? All right? Who's our next guest, Julian.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Our next guest is Thomas Edward Patrick Brady. Now, let's
see what AI has what to say about TV two
guys that know him pretty well. Let's see if AI
knows him just as well? All right, started the clock.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Let's see. Let's see if AI is really living up
to the standards. Let's see he's everyone's saying last two? AI,
all right, Tom Brady is a legendary NFL quarterback. Well,
they're already wrong because he's not a legendary NFL quarterback.
He was an NFL legendary quarterback? Or is he? Does
AI know he's Tom? Is a? Hey, I know something
(00:54):
that we don't know? Right, HEYI is living up to
the standards. Fans Kyle Shanahan still wants them with the Niners,
even though maybe AI is up to something. Right now,
he is up I see, he's a renowned for his
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record seven Super Bowl victories and five Super Bowl MVP Awards.
Off the field, he is known for his disciplined lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Very disciplined, TV twelve method, business ventureslash business ventures, a
lot of business ventures, owns teams, lots of teams, raiders
potentially coming up soon.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
And philanthropic efforts.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
A lot of giving back to the kids, best buddies
for a long time.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yes, and what about the kids he helped become superstars?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, he helped us out too, were part of that.
It doesn't go in that's not full anthropy. But no,
that's his biggest philanthropy right there. It was definitely okay,
helping us kids out.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
He helped us a lot, all right, Oh, including his
work with the TB twelve Foundation which you just mentioned and.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
TV twelve Foundation. Brady's leadership, He's a leader. Resilience, guys,
fucking resilient and commitment, Come on, Jules, as he committed.
This guy has committed like no other to excellence have
made him an iconic figure?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Is he iconic? Fucking he's got to order the most
iconic guy's gotta iconic figure both in sports and infinity
and beyond. Is infinites and beyond. But I added that
little bite of buzz light year, you know, spectacle aspect
into it. I like that.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I like that, but I can't believe a I didn't
one thing that AI didn't get. This guy's his compartment.
His compartmentalization skill is fucking outrageous. That's what when anyone
asked me, like what is he could literally have so
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many things going around, going going on in his life,
but when it was time for work, he could blur
all that out and think about what that workday was
and fucking get the most out of that workday every day.
Which some would say that's like a serial killer or
some kind of maniac mindset. I would say, that's like
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the greatest of all time. Yes, Jules, that's a great point.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I actually never thought of that, and that's one hundred
percent accurate. And that's actually contributes to why he was
so great, is that he could ignore the noise, whatever
is going on out there, whatever the situation was, it
didn't matter, and he would, Yeah, he would use that
anyways he was using as fuel. It would be diesel fuel,
(03:56):
it would be normal, normal fuel, it would freaking super
rated fuel, it didn't matter.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Usually a few freaking gas stations have that fuel fill
up that engine, and he had diesel engine, he had
freaking premium engine.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
He had ally engine in the book jet engine and
that's what made him so great. And he used that
fuel and he burned all that fuel too.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
This is probably terrible. There's so many He burned so
much fuel that he killed literally so much of the
ozone layer that he's a fucking hazard.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
To our environment because that's how much fuel he burns.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
With the motivation and his compartmentalization factors, that's how much
fuel he's burning.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
And that and that jet was full go every single time.
You know, when you get on a plane, you're like,
this freaking pilot, better drive this plane or fly this
plane as fast as possible. Well, drive it too freaking
on the runway to get to the runway to freaking
take off a sap, So fly it and drive it
as fast as possible. That's this guy. And he's got headwinds,
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so you're actually using more fuel. Yeah, the fuel never
ran out.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
The guy has fucking airplanes that come out while you're flying.
Have you seen that where they use the fucking piece
and while they're flying in the air and the connecting
the connecting limited. Yeah, that's and that is Alex. Alex
Is the little airplane. Oh man, he just has so
(05:31):
much fuel. I mean, oh, that was so good. That
was so good.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
There they are, look at there's alex Is fueling time up. Wow. Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
And that's something that happen. That's a love thing out
Alex because he him going.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Keeps them going. Man. Well, let's get to some accolades.
I mean, first he was he was picked one sixth
round in the two thousand draft. I mean, I'm sure
everyone knows that by now. He was with the Patriots
from two thousand to twenty nineteen, and then with the
Bucks two thousand to twenty twenty two. And actually I
just got a quiz on him. How many years did
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he play in the NFL? And it was right before
I talked to him two weeks ago on Fox, Kurt
Menafie asked me we played a little live game. Hey,
how well do you know your teammate Tom Brady goes?
How many more years did Tom Brady play in the
NFL than you? And I played eleven years? And I
thought Tom Brady played twenty four years. I actually got
it wrong. He played twenty three years in the NFL.
(06:33):
So shame on me. But it was better to be
over on that than the hit it right on the nose.
But that's how many years he played? Is that? I
just know it was so many I couldn't even keep
track anymore. He played eleven years more years than he played,
eleven years more than you, in twelve years more than me.
That is fucking I played twelve I played eleven years
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in the NFL, and he played more years in the
NFL that I put in NFL. He that without me?
Does that make sense? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, like if you I don't know what that's called,
but that's a math term.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, that's called the whole. That's called goat.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
That's fucking goat gioat. Yeah, that's called jet fuel. Alex's
jet fuel.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Alex's jet fuel. Yeah. What was the first time you
met Tom? The first time I met Tom was actually
what was pretty wild. When I was at the University
of Arizona. You know, I was doing my interview. I
had a couple of touchdowns that game. I was showing
off my touchdown celebrations and then the lady interviewing me,
she's like, who do you see being your quarterback in
the NFL? And obviously right on the spot, I go,
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Tom Brady would be the best quarterback to have in
the NFL, and especially a great fit for me. And
that was just the answer, you know. And then I
did my touchdown dances and all that, and then what happens.
I get drafted to the Patriots and Tom Brady becomes
my quarterback in the NFL. It was like I manifested
it when I was in college. I manifested a lot
(08:01):
of things. And if you ask Tom, Tom's probably really
big into manifesting his manifest He manifested all his Super
Bowls because right after he won a Super Bowl, he
would already have a clock counting down to the next next.
So he was manifesting like crazy. You just learned so
much knowledge from him, and he's done so many things
right to be able to get to, uh you know,
(08:22):
nature of where he is now. It wasn't like he
just had the athletic ability. He showed up. He did
everything right and he put the time in that you
can never argue against him, can't. You can't a bed.
So let's get let's get back to what was I
talking about again? I don't know, I just got Yeah,
I got at the first time I met him. It
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was in the training room. I was getting my ankles
taped and he walked in. So I was there already
for the rookie camps, the rookie practices, and he just
walks up to me. He goes, hey, Rob, I'm Tom Brady.
And I was like, oh wow, this guy already knows
my name. I mean, that's also makes him so great
as well, is that he already knows all the rookies names,
all the guys that were drafted, what rounds they were
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drafted in, what type of player they already were, because
he wants to know, you know, their athletic ability, you
know what type of guy they are, so he can
understand them so he can be on the same page
as events out of them, so he can get the
best out of them as well, like you said, and
he could have that connections to help win games, so
he can be on the same you know, wavelength as them.
So he already knew my name, came up to me,
and I just thought it was the coolest thing. Man.
(09:27):
I just said, hey, man, nice to meet you. It
was just super quick. He left. What did you think
in your head? And Tom Brady knew my name and
that was the greatest honor to shake his hand while
getting my ankles taped.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
And then he goes wins four super Bowls with them.
That's crazy. I had a similar story.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, what was it like when you met him? What
was that story?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I was going from, like you said, we were already
in there. When you're a rookie, you get in there before.
Back in our day, you get in there before the
vets reported, and so you'd be there for like three weeks,
did rookie camp and learning installations of everything. And so
I had a big book. We all had these books.
It was like a five inch Remember those old old
(10:08):
binders before we had iPads, We used to have big
old binders.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I didn't like carrying them around. I left mine in
my locker when I went home. Yeah, even though you
were supposed to bring it home to study, I was like,
I ain't carrying that binder. I used to carry it,
You did I do? I was just trying to make.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
So I'm over here, getting five minutes before the special
Teams meeting. It's true, and I'm running through and the
vets came in, and I saw the vets coming because
I saw well in the in the cafeteria.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Didn't say a word to me. I was, but I
wanted to big time a little bit that.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I had a leather jacket. He looks cool. He looks
like when you guys big time each other, it's entertainment
for me.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
All right.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Back to time though, And so I knew they were
in but I was going to my meeting and he
walks through the door, you know, the entrance of the
locker room from the hall. He walks in there and
he goes, I like, look at him. I dropped my book.
I'm like, oh shit, this dude is taller than I thought.
And he goes, hey, I'm Tom. I go Jules. He goes,
I know we have the same agent. Dragon's my agent too,
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or something something like that. And I was like, nice
to meet you, and you could I felt the same
way you felt, like.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Damn, he knew my name. That's fucking crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
But he knew that he knew everyone's name, and he
made everyone feel special, and that that was part of
his leadership skill, you know, like what made him such
an unbelievable leader, from the meal ladies to you know,
the people in the equipment room, the training staff, like
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it didn't matter what was going on, how the day went.
He was always a pretty cool dude to everyone, and
everyone was always watching him, you know what I mean.
And that's when you're the quarterback of the team, Everyone
no matter what is going on in your life, is
watching that person and to see how they react to everything,
the success, the failure. Your eyes go to that guy,
(12:04):
you know. And he was the perfect guy for us,
especially when we were young knuckleheads, to look at like,
all right, this is how you have to do it.
He gave you the example and he was just a fucking.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
He gave us the blueprint on how to become a reliable, talented,
you know player that you needed to be to help
the team win games. He gave us the blueprint on
how to become a star out there on the field.
He gave us the blueprint on how to make plays,
how to go out there and have that mindset ready
(12:37):
to go, and also be mentally and physically ready at
all times on the practice field and on the game field.
There's no doubt about that. And he didn't just give
you a blueprint. He showed you the way too. Showed you, Yes,
he showed you, Hey, this is where I want you
on this route. This is when you need to look
at me. This is where the ball is going to
change you. Yes, he trained you to be like that.
(12:58):
Oh wait, oh, wait, oh you want to take a break.
Hey man, I'm telling you your mind will let you
go farther. Let's go four more routes, let's go. You
got to be able to be on the same pace
as me. You got to be right here. Be more physical,
Be more physical. You're bigger than everyone. Run his ass
over and turn around and the ball will be there,
I promise you. And if you don't hit that guy,
if you're not physical, guess what, the ball is not
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going to come to you. He would just lay it
out just like that. His leadership was just what's that
word where it's just brutally honest. Yes, brutally honest. And
that's what made him so great too. So like with him,
that's what he always harped to gronk with me.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I remember in those because a lot of times we
would get that coaching in the offseason when he would
go fly out somewhere we would throw together, you know,
because there's times where you would do it.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
There was times that I would do it.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
He would always try to get his throes in with
his guys. And for me, he'd always come up to
me and like, hey, I need you to be here.
I need you to be like a boxer. You know
you can't you can't be You can't just do what
the thing shows you on the paper. You have to
feel it out. You got to set things up with
(14:08):
your jab and then you use your right. You know,
it's like a box. You got to be more savvy
in your route running. That's I remember you saying that.
And then he'd always say, like, you got to run
like a fucking you got to be able to run.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
You got to be able to run all day.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
And like you said, when you were tired, we would
do those sets of routes. He'd make you do three
or four extra ones and he would say you'd line up,
and you would you'd think that the drill was done,
and he would say, oh, there is offsides on a
penalty on your teammates, or there was a holding call
or PI, or we got to redo it. And he
knew you were dog dead, but he wanted to see.
(14:40):
He wanted to get everything out of you when you
were on empty. He wanted to see what kind of
guy you were, and he wanted to show you that's
what he expected in game time.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
And a word that you could have used in there
as well. That kind of sums it up a little bit.
As he loved a decisive route, run decisive side. He
didn't care if the paper said run ten yards and
run out. He didn't care one bit. He cared about
being decisive on the practice field and taking that decisiveness
(15:11):
and bringing it to the game field. He goes, Hey,
if you're gonna run twelve yards even though it's a
ten yard route, or if you're gonna run eight yards
and it's gonna be a little short, just be decisive. Let
me know when you're gonna break out. Let me know
when you're gonna break down, so I can get that
ball out and I can read you. I don't need
you to have fifteen steps where you're slow. I think
you're going to go to the left and then you
(15:32):
go to the right side. No, be decisive, and if
you're decisive, I will find you and that ball will
be out and it will be right on point. That's
what he said. What's the biggest misconception of him? You
think the biggest misconception of Tom Brady. I think he
said he's cool. Is that yeah, he is cool. No,
I think that's the biggest misconception. He's not that cool. Depends.
(15:54):
That's the misconception right there, because he's cool when he's comfortable.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
He's cool if he's comfortable in the situation. I think
he's not cool when he's comfortable. I think when he's
around us, he's kind of like a dork. Yeah, a
little bit. And then when I mean to everyone else
he's the coolest guy, which I still think he's the
coolest guy ever. But then when you have him around,
you're like, he's really kind of a dork.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
There's some situations where you know, if if he's comfortable,
he's more himself, yes, yes, and he's more like you know,
like like dad, like if he knows all the cameras
are shut off, like he can finally just have something
to be Tom. Yeah, he's kind of dorky. Okay, okay,
(16:39):
I like, but you need a little dorky in your
your quarterback. You do. Mostly all quarterbacks are a little dorky,
and that's what makes some quarterbacks, I mean, not all
of them, but I'm saying it's kind of like just
a trait what quarterbacks have, but a little bit, just
a little bit in them. He is cool, but he's
a little dorky. But you just said he's not cool. No,
(17:00):
the biggest misconception he's cool. He always keeps a chip
on his shoulder always, always. That's work. I think everyone
knows that work ethic, I know, But I'm just giving
some facts about him. What else is a misconception? Mmmm,
(17:22):
that he's not clutch. No, that's not even a misconception.
Everyone knows he's clutched. Yeah, I just wanted to try
to throw you off, jewels.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
How about this guy also played baseball and got drafted, Yeah,
by the Expos Montreal. No wonder why he didn't go
and play baseball the Expos. I mean they have a
cool hat, they do, got cool colors. They're gone though
they're not even there.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
No, So I mean that's why he didn't want to
go there. He's like, oh man, my legacy. I go there,
the team's going to be gone. That means I'm going
to be gone. I want to last forever. I'll go
to the New England Patriots instead.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah, he was in high school when he got drafted.
He went to the He went to the same house
he was going to the Patriots. Yeah, he went to that.
I remember, well, we grew up in the same area.
So he went to the same high school as Lynn Swan,
Barry Bonds. There's like so many really good athletes to
come out of that freaking school, Sarah, it's all boys school.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
What what was the moment that Tom made you the
most annoyed?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Oh my god, when I would return punts, Like I
remember my rookie year. It was the freaking preseason game.
It was my first punt return and there was a
repunt and I ended up housing the second one, but
the first one. I see Tom on the sideline and
he's got a little anxiety because it's his first game
from his knee. So he's like he was like coaching
(18:41):
me up on how to return a punt. He's like,
just get up there, just get up there. I'm sitting
there and I'm looking at him, like, fuck, this guy.
This guy has never done this. He does not know
what I'm feeling right now. I was so annoyed with him.
And then then they repunted it and I housed it
and I.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Fucking slammed the ball against it.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Thing.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I was fired up, and I was like, I was
so annoyed with them, Like this guy is.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
He's never felt what it fills when the guys are
running full This is new to me. I never felt
it either at the time, so like, fuck this guy,
let me do what I gotta do.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
It is not a run. And I was so annoyed
with him. I'll tell you mine what was yours. When
I was a rookie, and I couldn't get outside of
the defender on a flag route which is flag rout,
which is a corner route, so you run about ten
twelve yards and you you know, you give a little
stick and you break it forty five degrees and run
a corner route. And the defender was always outside of me,
sitting at like squatting at ten yards, and he's always says,
(19:36):
get outside. If you have a flag route corner route,
you gotta get outside of the defender or else I
will never throw you the freaking ball. So I was
a rookie. I was kind of like clunky. So I
wasn't really that athletic as a rookie. You know, I
wasn't running.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Routside right Doubleday's And yeah, I was tired as well.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I couldn't get outside, and in practice, I didn't get
outside of the guy. He's like two three yards outside
of me too, and I'm trying to fake him like
I'm going inside and trying to get around him on
the corner and Brady just turns around in the meeting
because it's on film, and he turns around. He goes, Gronk,
I'm fucking done throwing you the ball. I told you
fifty times to get outside. You're not getting outside. And
(20:16):
like I got all sad and alge Crumper started patting
my leg and he's like, it's okay, Gronk, he doesn't
mean it. And I was like, yeah he does, alg Man,
he means it. And let me tell you this time,
you fucking throw me the ball like a thousand times
after so I knew he was all bullshit time telling
me he was never gonna throw me the ball again.
(20:37):
I was literally like but that fired me up. I
was like, all right, I'm gonna show this guy. But
that's the leadership he had. He was brutally honest, honest,
and he would freaking get you to go to the
next level, which was crazy, which was crazy. He was
so good at it. But I was so annoyed because
I couldn't get outside the guy. I'm like, I want
to Big Tom, run the freaking route. I guarantee you
can't get outside the guy either. He's three hours outside
(20:59):
of me. And then if I got outside him, it
was basically like an out route I was running because
I would have to flatten it so much so I
couldn't really run the corner round and you get in
the other responsibility to the other guy, Well, he just
wanted to get a defender in practice, he's playing the play, yeah,
and then and he knew the place. He just wanted
to get the point across, ye like. So it was
just always in my memory, and every time I ran
a route, it was kind of just like on autopilot,
(21:21):
just to get outside of the defender. So I was
annoyed at that, and you know, with that situation, but uh,
you know, times of change, I started running routes where
I would go inside the guy and then he would
still throw me the ball as well later on, because
he's like, all right, he proved, he proved it enough
that you can do it. Well, then you guys start
throwing the back shoulder shit. Yeah, and then we started
doing all that. Also, I also used.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
To get really annoyed when in meeting rooms if he
liked you, and I felt both of these. I felt
when he liked the guy, he'd like, he would like
love them up, and then there'd be so like when
when Wes was there. I get so annoyed when I
would do the exact same thing that Wes to do
and he he wouldn't think it was good, and I
(22:04):
would get so fucking annoyed with him.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
But I remember when Wes left, then I was that guy.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
There was guys doing trying to do that what I
would do and he wouldn't, So like I would get
annoyed with that so much when he would always bring up, like, babe,
just do it a little more like Wessy. He called
him Wessy. When he called him Wessy, You remember Wessy. Hm,
I used to get so annoyed.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
You want to know what I would get annoyed with
him too. It's like we're in the off season. We
just ran fifty routes. It's like you and I out there,
only we're dead tired. It's ninety degrees outside middle of
the summer. And he'd be like one more, just one
more route, because he's just throwing the ball. His arm
can throw one hundred and fifty passes a day, and
we're running the freaking fifty routes and he's been one more,
So then we would run, run more. We give it all.
(22:47):
We're about to throw up. It's the middle of the summer.
We probably are hungover. He has no clue what that's
like because he used to he used to see him though, Yeah,
and then he became lame. Yeah, he became lame for
like a couple of years. Nah, he back in the day.
I guess he wasn't the lame. If you're saying he's
not lame, he was lame, Okay, say it, Jules. You
know he was lame.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, like when it came when it came to that,
he was lame.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
But we didn't get him when he was young. Yeah,
I know, he was already thirty three when I first
met him. And then when thirty freaking lame at thirty
three years old, complaint. Compare it to when I was
freaking twenty eight years old.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
You're right, because then he was twenty three, twenty four.
He was the there's you know, he was the best
chugger on the team. He was like he was a
dude's dude.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
So back to the story, like he'd be one more
and then you would. You would run one more route,
and they'd beck one more and then you just be like, Tom,
I'm not off and running one more. I just ran
fifty routes, you know, one more, but one more you
want to get better? One more and then it'd be
like fifteen more routes and then finally it was the
last one.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
And it was fifty and then you get to seventy five.
He's like he just wanted seventy five throws. Yeah he
was seven five throws. Whatever Tom says, you do, you
got you, son. I remember those days, man, This what
made us great though. What was the moment that, like
you felt like you truly gained his trust and that
(24:13):
he could rely on you even if you mess up again,
he knows that you're still reliable. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
What was that moment? What was that catch? What was
that play if it was a practice or if it
was left well, because he loved he loved West. You
just were not playing when West was okay, Jules, No,
but you couldn't have Tom Brady's trust when you were
when you were on, when west left, you didn't like
a bunch of players. Okay, he didn't like it. It
was when he left he had no one. He had
(24:41):
to trust me. You had all right, and then it
was weird.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
It was we one in thirteen where we played Buffalo
and we went out there and we won. I had
two touchdowns and that's when I felt like all right,
because we had some we had some spurts were you know,
Westwood would get banged up and he wouldn't play.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
But he didn't like trust me, trust.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Me until you had to be the guy, until you
had to be the guy.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yes, and then he truly trusted you. And that's the situation.
Though he doesn't really trust a guy that you know, yeah,
he's not able to throw to. He's got to see
eighteen times practice, you know, he has to see it.
He has to do the repetitions with you in order
to truly gain your trust. And it doesn't happen overnight. Now,
he gained your trust and you gain his trust as well,
(25:30):
you know, just over time, over time. I would say
my situation was when we played the Chicago Bears. On
the one on one panther route when I was going
over in the snow. Yeah, versus Brian or Lacker, and
he wanted to gain my trust. He wants to see
me be physical. That's why he always emphasized me, be
fucking physical. Gronk your two hundred and sixty pounds you're
(25:52):
going versus one hundred eighty pounders or linebackers that you're
still bigger than Be physical and h This was the
play panther out one out run. I run into the
end zone, kind of hit the guy with my shoulder
and then turn around and the ball will be right there.
Because when you're physical, you know, pushes the guy back
a little bit. When you use your shoulder, you turn around,
then there's that little ounce of separation and Tom can
(26:12):
see that. He can see the field. He can see
all the separation in the world. He's it, he sees it.
He can see every little detail that's going out on
the field. And when he sees that little detail on
that route, you know, with the physicality knows he knows
that you're going to be open. There's gonna be a
little window. I hit Brian Urlack and we practice it
in that Friday. He says, I want to see that
in the game because I ran it great on Friday.
(26:33):
So the game comes when I won versus Brian Laker,
give him the shoulder turn right around the balls, right there,
nice and low where it's always supposed to be in
the red zone. Boom catch it and ever since then
I gained Tom Brady's trust right there and then on
the spot, which was one of the greatest moments of
my career.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, I remember that he is you know, he had
to see it. That's what makes him. He's a dog man,
he's assassin.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
He is an assassin. Which your favorite Tone memory? My
favorite Tom memory is actually, this is one of my
favorite memories of all time. You know, when we were
playing the Indianapolis Colts and I ran that five yard
out route, caught it versus d Kwyl Jackson. I did
a little spin move, he kind of fell, did a
little splait. It was like a very great route by me.
Great after the catch too, and then I'm running, you know,
(27:21):
I'm going. There's a couple other guys and here comes
Julian adamman Ka. Boom just absolutely levels Adams the safety
you know, gets them out of my way. I'm like,
thanks Jules for the block, you know, and then I'm
running into the end zone. I jump over Butler. Yeah, dB, yeah, DBI.
What's his first name again, Yeah, Darius Butler, who was
(27:41):
previously on the on the Patriots and then he went
to the Colts and now he's doing he's doing a
great job in the media. Yeah, it was a McAfee show.
He's doing a great job. So shout out to Darius Butler.
But I jumped over his ass, made me look goods
flipped into the end zone. I looked like an athletic
one hundred and eighty pound wide receiver. And then this
(28:02):
was the moment, one of my favorite moments with him.
Tom loved the route, loved the catch, loved your block.
He was so pumped up. He ran full speed from
the thirty guy line, and probably because I got him
a touchdown on a play where it never should have
been a touchdown. Yeah, and he came running full speed
and jumped on my back and went for a ride. Man.
(28:22):
He was He was like a pony on a horse. Man.
I brought him for a ride. Man. I was carrying
Tom Brady around in the freaking end zone.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
He was.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
On my back, put the pony on the horses. I
was waiting for him to drop that quarter in so
the rock can keep on going. Yes, I didn't want
him to get off. I was like, Tom Brady's on
my back, like like, what else do I need in
my life? Oh my god. Yeah, And it's one of
(28:52):
my favorite pictures to sign to this day as well.
I don't think he ever signed it. It costs like
five billion dollars to get him to sign a picture.
So like I he signed the picture on my back,
and like I'm waiting for that picture to be worth
a lot more money once he signs it. The couple,
you know. But he hasn't signed it yet. Man, that
was a fucking fun play. That was a fun play.
(29:13):
Thank you for that block. Oh you level Adams. Adams,
he's talking in the safety. We used to battle. He
was with Denver Battle. He battled us a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Man.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
He brought it, He brought it to and he wasn't scared.
He was good. Yeah, there it is. There's a picture
right there. Oh wait, he signed there it is. Man,
he's going for a ride. I'm still waiting for those corners. Tom.
Oh my gosh, there's Tim right right in the back too.
We won the super Bowl this year, didn't we? And
we won the super Bowl this year? Yeah, yeah, I
think it was who Man was was a tight end
(29:46):
as well in the two tim right and who Man?
I love who Man?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
All right?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
What was your favorite memory, Jules? My favorite memory was when.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
We it it kind of that fourteen when he, uh,
we hit that route. He came up to me afterwards
and he and he goes, that was a championship route, man,
and like it was nothing crazy, that's special. And he
when he you know, he goes, that was a championship play, man.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
And we didn't win the game yet to right him
saying that's a championship route. That's a championship play. That
means a lot.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, And and then afterwards when he we won, you know,
like that was his That was when he got four
and I just remember, you know, there were so many
memories of him, like you said, how he's having the
ticker of the super Bowl location and the whole story
where I said, man, I'm gonna help you try to
get to Joe, and because we were both Bay Area fans,
(30:49):
love Joe Montana and I told me he was the
greatest quarterback.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Of all time.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
And you know that all that was just a fun memory.
There's so many it's it's hard to fucking do one kind,
all right. I mean, I'm gonna start crying.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
I know me too. There's there's a lot of memories
with Tom. It's just great to see him. He's doing
so good in the broadcasting booth. I mean, if he
just puts in ten percent of the effort that he
did with the game of football in his after career,
in his post career after football, he's gonna have the
whole world just which you know he is to eat from.
He's gonna be successful and anything that he does, and
(31:26):
that's what he's gonna do. He's actually gonna go one
hundred percent all in with what he does. He's great
in the booth, like I said, and he's been improving
so much every single week and it just shows he
is actually a human. I mean, Week one, he was good,
he got the win, but he definitely could improve. And
then all of a sudden Week two and three, You're like,
what the heck? How did he just go from being
like a rookie quarterback to a veteran quarterback in one week?
(31:49):
In the broadcast booth, So just shout out to him.
I mean, he dedicates himself and he works on his
craft like like no one ever has before. And that's
what makes him, you know, the greatest, the greatest.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Whatever he cares about making the people look right that
give him opportunity, he does.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
That's he cares about that. He takes it to heart,
and he cares about showing the people that has passed
on him that they fucked up too. Yeah, he loves that.
He likes that. So don't ever pass on Tom Brady. No,
I won't.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
The only thing I'll pass on is that I was
kind of a little hesitant when I said he was lame,
But he was pretty lame except for when he wins
a Super Bowl in Tampa Bay and he gets hammered
on a damn boat.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Like, where was that fucking Tom around us? I was bullshit,
Like I was waiting for that the whole entire time
in New England. I was to That's why I went
to Tampa Bay. I went there for that moment. I
didn't really want to play football again. I just wanted
that moment that I could actually get wasted with Tom.
(32:56):
But guess what he was on a separate boat than me.
I didn't even see him at the atme. So guess what.
I still never had a drink with Tom. It took
me all the way until the Roast to have a
drink with Tom Brady. And that's why it was in
the roast. I said, Tom, I never had a shot
with you ever in my life or a drink, and
he took a shot with me at the roast. So
(33:17):
that was that was a cool moment. Yeah, well, I
mean it's been thirty three minutes. How long can we
talk about this guy? I think maybe we should have
him on again for another episode because I got literally
I can talk about this guy all day long. I
could go literally two hours. The more we talk about him,
the more stories that pop up in my head. Same,
the more stories about him on the field, off the field,
(33:39):
what it's like to be around him. We could talk
literally for four hours straight. Jewels, what kind of dude?
Tell me what time of well? What type of dude
is Tom Brady? Ladies and gentlemen, I think this is easy,
freak dog whiz, I think this is easy. Dude, Dude,
I don't know, what do you think If it's easy
let's hear what. Let's sake easy. He's a fucking dog.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
He is a dog, mental, physical, toughness, always motivated. He
didn't have the pedigree he was he was. We saw
the Brady six of the the six guys before him
taking in the draft. Like he always had to go
to long road. He always had to work for everything.
Even when he was at his top, they were always
talking about someone else.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
He's a fucking dog. I want to say freak, because
a freak is like someone that has like the most
athletic ability in the world. And he didn't really have
the most athletic ability. But what's made him so great
was that he didn't need the athletic ability because the
dog was working harder than the athletic dog. You know
that wasn't the freak dog that really or the freaky
(34:42):
person that wasn't really working.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I think he's got illness like shooting, like basically like
it's kind of.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Like an archer freak instincts. He could throw, Yes, he
can throw rocks really good.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
He could probably skip a rock really really really has
he probably really good pool? Yeah, like pong king pomp
When I said you always beat him, never mind he's
not good poles.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, he gets really mad when he loves. That's a dog.
That is a dog. That's a dog. He wants to
want to go again, though, wants to go go, he won't.
He wants to go again. Won't let you fucking leave.
I mean, we haven't even got to This guy's looks
got either. I mean we can just say that he's
a stud real quick, just because of how good he looks.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, I mean he looks younger than when Yeah he
got in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Like his chins, jawline freaking just his beautiful blue eyes.
He posted a picture of that day on Instagram. Like
he's got like a six pack now, like his arms
are jacked, like, I mean he's doing two days.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
He is doing to days. He's doing two days right now.
He's got his body, he's still. So that's why maybe
A I was fucking right, he's maybe coming back.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
AI is is Tom Brady coming back? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
He got six pack, he got a little his hair
is looking as brown as ever. He amy the supplement
that he saw my great hair, and he goes babe
here and he's take this fucking uisha. I think it's
like uisha ou or something in some Chinese medicine and.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
You put it in the shake and my hair is
already growing. It is my hair darker. That's why I
don't have a hat show. I wanted to show off
my hair because I've got we shall product. It's like
I don't know how to pronounce oo oshi. I got hair.
I don't whatever it is. Look at how good his
hair looks. It's just a good looking guy. Man. He's
(36:33):
a dog, all right. He's a dog. He is a dog.
It's official. Tom Brady is a dog man. We can
talk about him forever, forever,
Host
Julian Edelman
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