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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tight ends have the most fun on the football field.
Now we bring the most joy to the game. I mean,
you see George Kittle play, You see Travis KELSI play
myself playing every time Jewels. You talk about, oh, Rob
will catch a ball up the middle, he'd be laughing,
and granted he would.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
And yes, there we go. See there's evidence.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I'm not lying here, folks, there's evidence to this, proof
that we have the best personalities as well.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Welcome to Dudes On Dudes. I'm Julian Edelman and I'm
Rob gronkows dude.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
And this is the show where your favorite dudes get
to talk about their favorite dudes.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
And this is a special week, not just for myself
but many of my fellow co workers out there. It's
National tight Ends Day, everybody, the best holiday in the world.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
And what are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Of course, we're talking about one of the best tight
ends of all time, Antonio Gates.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
And then we get into talking a badass tight end
turned head coach.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Yes, And then we talk about my favorite young stud
tight end in the NFL right now, and.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Here's a hint, he's a rookie.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
And then we rap by answering detailed questions about the
tight end position in the Chill is Dude of the
Week presented by cors Light and let me tell you
these answers I'm going to be giving about the tight end.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Position, they're spot on. You're gonna want to know. Tune in.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Dudes on Dudes is a production of iHeartRadio. Hey, Jules,
what's up?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Brother? You know what the week is? Baby? Come on?
Tell everybody what week? Is it? Wrong?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Now?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah? I want you to tell everybody. Happy National tight
End Jules. That's right.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Shout out to all the tight ends out there. Oh,
shout out to George Kittle as well, because he's the
one who created Happy National tight Ends Day, which I'm
pretty sure it was him, right, Yeah, he started tight
end you and he also started National tight Ends Day.
I mean, thank you George for representing us tight ends
and doing all the things you can do for us
tight ends as well and being a complete tight end
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out there as well.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
How are you celebrating this holiday, jeueles, I don't celebrate
this holidays? Yeah you do? Come on you on Christmas here?
I okay? I know you end. You love tight ends.
I love tight end. I see you always checking my
tight end, I'll joels.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I do like tight ends because I liked tight end.
I had the best tight end of all time, got
to play with him. He opened me up. So I
love tight ends, but I'm not a tight end. I'm
not celebrating it. How are you celebrating it?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Oh, I'll be on the couch. Actually I'm off from
Foxes this weekend, so I'll be on the couch and
I'll be gronk spiking something every single time a tight
end scores this Sunday.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I love you grading the gronk spike.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
It's also on me too, and I think it's going
to become a thing now and it's going to become
a tradition. I kind of just graded went out of
nowhere when I was on two weeks ago, and then
this week coming up, they're like, yeah, let's do some
gronk spike ratings.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
They have the gronk spike scales.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
See the scale on the screen, and it was one
of the coolest, you know, little segments I think I've
ever done on TV before. And hopefully it becomes something
bigger every single week.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
So all you little kids out there, when you score
your touchdowns on their highlights, that you're sending in for
our T mobile stuff. If we're still doing all that stuff,
just throw a good gronk spike and you'll get gronk rated.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
All right, let's talk these dudes. Get into it Anational
History Day or whatever it is. AI synopsis on who
oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Well, let me also tell you if it's National tight
End Week. You know I'm celebrating by only talking tight
ends here on dudes on dudes this week as well.
So let's get on to the AI summary of our
first tight end that we will be talking about.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
First end. Oh all right.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Standing at six foot four and two hundred and fifty
five pounds, this undrafted tight end from Kent State. Oh, Jules,
did you hear that? I heard that Kent State. That's
where you went to school. I went to Scuss Yeah,
too bad. You didn't play basketball where he played basketball.
Where this guy played basketball. He did play back, not football,
not football, Jewels, he played basketball only at Kent State.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
That's what you should have done, all right, Maybe you
could have got.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Some more recognition there than maybe, Yeah, because this dude
represent Kent State and he didn't even play football there. Yeah,
he represents the football program there too, and played basketball.
Im sorry, Jewels, I'm just I'm just digging into you.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
It's National tight Ends Week. I'm allowed to say anything
I want to go, all right?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
All right?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Because he became an eight time Pro bowler, five time
All Pro, and a Hall of Famer. He played his
entire sixteen year career for the Chargers, the San Diego Chargers,
that is where they still should be, and holds the
NFL record for most touchdown receptions by tight end.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
That's root of him. He olds the record, Jewel, he
olds the record.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I wanted that record, he but too bad I couldn't
get that record. And he truly deserves it because he
has one hundred and sixteen.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Touchdowns learned sixteen and I.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Don't think he would ever be broken by a tight end,
no current tight end. I don't see breaking it. No, No,
I wouldn't say that. Why who's going to break it?
Get into go ahead, all right, let's get on Antonio Gates, Joels.
What's the first thing you think of Antonio Gates besides
him going to Kent State where that's your alma matter.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Revolutionary, that's good point, that's the first thing. I mean,
he was.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
There's always been there's been guys that played basketball and
football that went to the league. Tony Gonzalez, right, yes,
but this guy didn't even play any football. And I
heard the story because I was We did, we did
a show recently together. He went to Michigan State to
play with Sabin and basketball.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
There something went down.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
He went to Kent State, was gonna play football, but
he loved basketball, and they went to the Elite eight
and shit, and he was doing crazy things. Never played
football and then got drafted or then went to the
NFL and became legendary. Like that's revolutionary to me. And
it was so fun to pick his brain on how
he used to run routes. He ran routes like he
was playing basketball.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, he sure did. And that's that's what he said.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
What's what made him so great is that he took
those basketball skills and he translated it onto the football field.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
That's kind of what got him open.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Like he was just so smooth with at top of
the route that a defender didn't know which way he
was going. It was like he was dribbling the ball
as a point guard at ten yards down to the
route and then boom, you wuldn't know what way he
was breaking because he was so smooth with his route
and he was so shifty with his routes. That's what
got him opened so much on, you know, in the
passing game as a tight end. And I got to
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give him credit. He was a very solid blocker. He
was for never even playing the game of football, Like
did he play in high school?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Did he played in high school? He played football in
high school.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
But he also he told me when he first got
to the Chargers, he didn't even get a chance to
sniff the pass game. They made him a pass blocking
tight end first, Like that was how he got his
reps to be coming Antonio Gates.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
But go back, sorry to cut you off.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, okay, no, that no, that actually explained a lot
because I was going to say, usually a guy that
is coming from you know, the football and the basketball side,
finesse guy. Yeah, they're finess like they make people miss.
They don't want to run through anybody, they don't want
to get dirty in the trenches. Well, Antonio Gates was
there to get dirty and blocking the run game. And
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he had that football mentality, which is very impressive because
he played basketball in college and not football, because in
order to be a football player, you gotta have that
mentality of just being off.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
A little bit. You gotta have a screw loose every
football player does. I mean, it's we're not here.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
We're not here to say we're scientists and and surgeons
and all and some mad Garrett he's a he's a
dinosaur scientist. And the safety that went to Florida State,
he's he's a he's a well known doctor as well.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Role was it my role? Right? Yeah? And toWin roll
something like that. He plays safety then retired. But we're
not doctor, We're not the majority of us.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Ninety eight percent of us aren't doctors and scientists and geniuses.
While I'm a genius and in different ways you are too, jees,
but uh, this guy had an athlete athleticism untilio Gates
red zone threat. You know, obviously he has one hundred
and sixteen touchdowns and everyone said I was a red
zone threat.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
This guy was a fricking red zone threat.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I can tell you that great ball, scales, great hands,
and I would attribute that also why he was so
good in the red zone because it's a tight niche area.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
And in basketball, you gotta go get a rebound. Everyone's
right there. You got to box out.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
You gotta use your body, and that's how you score
touchdowns in the red zone. That's why I was great there.
That's why Antonio Gates was great because you use your
body when you got size over these defenders and you
got to go up and grab that ball like it's
a rebound. Antonio Gates shirt did that.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
He's like a perfect storm of the basketball player that
came to football because in basketball he was undersized. He's
six foot four, but if you watch him at Kent State,
he was banging with like the six ten dudes like
and he was a power, motherfucking forward that was physical,
that was athletic as fuck on the core. So he
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was always undersized in basketball. When he got to the league,
he was always bigger than everyone, you know what I mean.
But he played with that undersize mentality from basketball when
he was like big with people, and it translated unbelievably
to the football field. I mean, he's he's some of
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the inspiration we got with you. I remember specifically when
we used to put you out and extend you from
the formation. That was because of Antonio Gates. They used
to do that with him. And then when teams would
freaking gunner you, they used to gunner Antonio Gates, like
when they put this put him in the red area.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
That's how elite he was.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
And and he's a very cool dude from Detroit, Michigan.
And the stories about him on campus, like as a
basketball player or just elite, I mean they That's half
the reason why I went to Kent State is because
I I heard about them, like two years before when
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he brought him to the Elite eight, I was like,
who the fuck is this small school? And then I
was getting recruited by Ken I was like, Oh, that
that team that made the crazy run with that insane
basketball player, that Antonio Gates guy who was already a
baller in the league by then. Like it's just it's
a crazy story. Certifiable Hall of Famer, no doubt about this.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
And this says something about basketball players and tight ends,
because the guy that's number two on the list for
most touchdowns as a tight end as well isn't me, Jules,
isn't me, and it's Tony Gonzalez. Tony Gonzalez has one
hundred eleven all time TDS basketball player as well at California. Right, yes,
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at California he knew how to transfer his basketball skills
to the football field as well. And then we got
other players as well. Jimmy Graham didn't play college football.
While he did actually I think one year at the
University of Miami, but I don't even think he played
in high school that his game transferred into the NFL.
He knew how to use those bad that basketball skill
set and become dominant on the football field. So these guys,
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the top tight ends that to score touchdowns, you know
in the NFL of all time all played basketball, including myself.
That's why I always tell these kids, Hey, parents ask me, Hey,
should my son just concentrate on a sport in high
school and middle school?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Absolutely not play as many sports as you can possibly play,
because you learn the different skill sets of these other
sports that can transfer to the other sport that you
want to really focus on once you get to college.
And also it's not just about the skill sets, it's
about the nature of the sport. It's about ethnicity of
other players you know in other sports, and how to
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work together as a team and come together as a team.
So play as many sports as possible. It will all
transfer and translate to life, you know eventually. So kids
do it all. You don't got to focus on a sport. Yes,
once you get to college do that, focus on one,
but play it all as a kid.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Specialization of the kids right now. You know, for one sport,
it really does it doesn't it. When you play other sports.
I feel like it opens up different parts of your
brain that and you gain different techniques from different sports
that translate subconsciously to the one sport that you pick. Exactly,
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And that's exactly what Antonio Gates did exactly. He had
nine hundred and fifty five receptions, eleven thousand yards eight
hundred and forty one yards only trails Witten, Kelsey and
Gonzalez for.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yards by a tight end for yards by a tight end,
and shout out.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
To Antonio Gates as well. Just went to the Hall
of Fame this year. I mean, he probably should have
been a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
What was he sucking the third? Second? He was second?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I mean we'll just say he was a first because
he well, he deserved to be a first. But he
does every single honor that he gets, and I appreciate him.
He was a role model growing up for myself. I
appreciate what he did for the tight end position. I
want to be where I'm at as a player if
it wasn't for the guys before me, and Antonio Gates
was one of those guys before me that set that standard.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
He's got a really cool voice too, Like when when
you talk to him, it sounds like like he'll explain
something and it sounds like it's a movie background, you
know what I mean, Like, hey, like he's smooth, Jewels
like he I don't know, he's got Eddy the voice
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inflections and shit, he's just cool.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I remember the first time I met him with Woolcat. Yeah,
we went out.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
We played him in what was it thirteen or fourteen,
the year we went and won the Super Bowl right
where we stayed out there.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
However, we went and stayed out there, Yes we did.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
And you had the sixty nine yard reception touchdown to
win the game. And I said it in the huddle.
I was like, Jewels, sixty nine yards, we got a score,
and you did.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I think, I said, Gronk, it's perfect time for your
sixty nine year And.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Then you scored. Then I scored. Yeah, that was funny.
We literally talked about it.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
That's situational, aware of the situation, and that's why you
scored it because you were aware of the down and
distance we had to go to get to the you know,
to get a touchdown, so you deserve that touchdown.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I was proud of you, and that was to win
the game. That was a fun one.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
That was that was cool in front of the fans
or friend friends and family, you know what I mean,
all the California people.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
But I saw him after that game.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I got to meet him for the first time, and
it was at night in San Diego, and I just
remember he had like some cool like a frame, big
ass like black sunglasses on. He had some big ass chains.
He had like a white T shirt walking out, and
I was I was.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Like yo a gee yoah Tonio.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
He's like, hey man, good game, little edel Man. He
said something like that to me, and that was like
my first experience with him.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, he's coolest shit.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I met him real quick at a fandely event at
the Super Bowl and it was just cool that I
finally got to give him his props in person. Man,
tell him, I always looked up to him, but it
was a real quick, uh you know, intervention, real quick meeting.
But he just seems cool as heck. Man love Antonio
Gates one time.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
What kind of dude is Antonio Gates? Oh? Is he
just stud Is he a freak dog? Whizz? Dudes? Dude?
I mean he's a lot of it. He's a lot
of it.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
And there's one thing about him is that how thick
he is too as a football player. Like that's probably
why he was so good at basketball because he could
box out defenders. But how strong legs were and how
thick he was. You don't see basketball players that thick.
So that's why I probably translated to being a tight
end as well.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I think being a dominant.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Blocker, I think I think one of them. I mean
if his road alone or is he a whiz?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I mean you got to be a whiz in order
to pick the game back up that quick, you know,
and understand. You know, there's more that goes into the
game of football. You got to understand awareness of where
everyone is. You gotta understand. I think he plays where
the defense is situated and all that, So you got
to be very smart.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
He didn't play college football.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
He came in and he fucking took the like he
was young, like as an undrafted guy, and like came
in like that and made plays.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
And he I mean he was innovative, like he really was.
He innovated the position, the tight end position, and he
was very clutch in many moments. And what makes him
smart too, is the end of his career. I mean,
I ain't gonna lie like he didn't look like he
could he could move that well. But the guy was
so smart that he could get in the situations where
he would get open still because he understood the defense
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in the coverage and he would just sit and then boom,
he would just get a pass fed to him and
then he would go out. They put the other tight
end in and then he would.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Come back in.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
And every time he's in to use his body, he
knew how to use that body. He was just so
smart with him.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
And he on three? What is he he's on two? Three?
Whiz he's got to be.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
It's just it's so remarkable that this guy didn't play
it down in college and then literally was getting gunners.
He was getting a gunner set. And what a gunner
set is on punt you usually have two guys on
on the gunner to block for punt. Well, they were
doing that to Antonio Gates by in his prime at
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the Red Area, which they you know, they used to
do with Gronk as well. Like that's crazy, that's a whiz.
He was revolutionary. Hey man, anton Anthony gonz or Tony Gonzalez.
We'll be right back after this quick break.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
All right, let's get on to the next guy. All right,
let's get on to it. Hey, what's the ass summary summary?
Here we go. Let's see who we got here.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
We just did Antonio Gates legend, hall of fame are
still known to this day. And now let's see who
this guy is. Hopefully people know who this guy is
as well. You know, it's gonna be tough to top
Antonio Gates. So let's see how this guy can possibly
top Gates. Standing at six foot five, having two hundred
and sixty five pounds, this former that's big size. That's
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a big size tight end right there. This former tight
end was drafted in the third round of the nineteen
ninety nine draft out of Texas A and M. He's
known for his toughness and leadership abilities. Growing up in Texas,
he starred at Glenn Rose High School, earning all district
honors and a reputation for his grittiness. Oh you think
he did the gritty in nineteen ninety nine. Yeah, no,
it It wasn't around yet, but he had greediness. In
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twenty ten, he transitioned into coaching and is known for
his motivational speeches and aggressive play calling. In twenty twenty one,
he was hired as the head coach of the Detroit Lions.
Let's get on Dan Campbell, Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Dan Campbell.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Dan Campbell, I was saying, can he compare to Antonio Gates,
you know, with the name out there still played back
in the day, And he sure does, but in a
whole different style. Now. You know, he's not knowing Antonio
Gates as a player, but his toughness and his wizardness
of how smart of a full players has transferred into
the next stage of his life. And his name is
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still very valuable because he is now the head coach
of the Detroit Lions and his legacy lives on. These
tight ends are just so great. I love going over
tight ends. It's National tight end Week. Everyone just appreciate
the position don't even look at wide receivers this week.
Don't look at running backs, don't even look at quarterbacks.
It's all about the tight ends.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Baby.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I never knew of him as a player, No, I
mean either, I didn't I but he played would, he
played along. He played a long ass time, so he
had to have something. If you look at his stats
when he had ninety one receptions, nine and thirty four
yards eleven touchdowns, which tolls you he must have been
elite in the in the run game.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yes, tough, tough, tough as now is. You can tell
the way that he coaches the Detroit Lions and that
energy he brings to the table and that toughness, you know,
the toughness manner that he brings to that team in
the mindset.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
That's how he played as a player.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
And I didn't hear about him as a player either,
But I went back to watch his High Life film
and I just love the way that he represents himself
on the field. When he gets that ball, it's just
full go. You know, it's hard to tackle him. He's
just bouncing off of guys. He's just trying to make plays.
He's excited, he's bringing energy to the team. He must
have been a heck of a blocker as well, because
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he played ten years in the NFL, bounced on a
couple teams, but the grittiness that he brought as a
player was unmatched. He would be a great compliment if
it was like him and I on the field. I
would love to have a dude that was behind me,
just bringing juice and getting me going.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
I mean something be said about a guy that doesn't
have crazy stats, And if you watch how he played,
it looked like he was like having the time of
his life, no matter what the team has him to do, Yes,
And that's how he coaches. And I think that's why
a lot of guys resonate towards him, because he's an
ultra team first kind of guy.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Everyone knows their role. He knew his role as a player.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
If everyone has their role and everyone takes pride in
their role, that's how you have good teams. And that's
what they've developed over there in Detroit. Came from he
was coached by Parcels with the Cowboys. Came from Sean
Payton's coaching tree, So he's got toughness, old school coaching
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in his background. And if those guys loved him. You
knew that he was probably a really good team guy.
Locker room guy for sure.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, as a player and a coach obviously, locker room guy, grinder,
great size, good blocker, tough in the run game. That's
kind of like his scouting report as a player, just
tough as now's it's kind of like the mentality that
he's bringing to Detroit as well as the head coach,
and then the scouting report.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I mean, he's kind of amped it up. Actually was.
He had brought.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Great energy as a player, but I think he even
took it to a whole other level as a coach.
He's intense, authentic. That's what I really love about him
is that the stuff that he's doing, it's not for show.
It's because it's him. And that's why it's where and
that's why he authenticy is everything jewels to a lot
of things. And that's why Detroit is kind of where
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Detroit is now because he's so authentic in his approach
and how he wants to run the team and how
all he wants to coach the team. Very passionate, very aggressive.
It's not like he's being aggressive because people are telling
him it's because it's authentic once again, and he wants
to be aggressive. And also he's a hard knocks legend man.
He brought all that entertainment not just in the meeting rooms,
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but he let everyone see it in public eyes on
hard knocks.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
He definitely eats, breathe sleeps football. You can tell that,
and that's what you want to see from your fucking coach.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
You know, it's it's real. The team.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
It's been so fun to watch the Detroit Lion since
he became the head coach. And it started out terribly
so like for people like Aaron Glenn and the Jets,
if you can get that culture established, which you know
the Jets are a long way from that, but I'm
just saying like, there's it takes time for things to happen,
and thank god Detroit gave him the time and the
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team feeded off, fed off him through those first few years.
First couple of years, I think they started like oh
to nine or something. He didn't win a game for
a long time. Own sixteen No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
He was on the own sixteen Own sixteen team when
he was playing as a player with the Detroit Lions,
and then he became the head coach eventually a couple
of years later, and then I think they went like
one in fifteen or one in two and fourteen or something.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
So he's been through.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
The darkest, darkest days of the Lions franchise. So how
much do you think he has learned on how to
bounce back from such a program being so low to
now being where it is. I mean, he's probably learned
so many tricks and traits to grind out of that
hole to become, you know, a good franchise.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I think being in those situations as a player definitely
helped him player and coach and coach. I think I
think it's a little bit of everything. I think that
you know, him being with Sean Payton and learning real coach,
and him being coached by you know, coach Parcels, and
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then him experiencing the loss. He's seeing what good is
and he's seen what real is, and so to be
in that situation, I think it was like the perfect
storm for Dan Campbell, which you know from that opening
day press conference, you know when when he said he
was gonna take people's knees out. When he goes, what
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is it We're gonna kick kick you in. We're gonna
kick you in the teeth.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
We're in.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
When you punch us back, we're gonna smile at you.
And when you knock us down, we're gonna get up.
And on the way up, we're gonna bite a knee.
Cap off like that was. Looking back now, you're like, yeah,
that's Dan Campbell. But from that point on people didn't
take him serious. And it's been real fun to watch
him prove a lot of people wrong with the narrative
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that he went into with starting his career and where
they are now.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Well, whenever someone comes in with a new mindset that's
never really been seen before, and I'm talking about anything
in life, Yeah, like any aspect, any business, any category
of life where it's something new and different. You know,
people always doubt it because you have absolutely no clue
if it's going to work. Sometimes it tanks tremendously. And
in order to prove everyone wrong, you have to prove
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you have to be right, you know, and get to
where you need to get to to get those daughters
to be believers. And that's what Dan Campbell did with
his approach and his aggressiveness being with the Detroit Lions,
like everyone's a believer now, like, hey, it's fourth down,
let's go for It's Dan Campbell before everyone was questioning him, Hey,
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should they go for it? He's taking too many risks.
He may be still taking too many risks in some situations,
but that's just him. But everyone's like, let's do it,
let's do it. We love this approach. It works.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
We were all in sixteen at one time. Like this guy.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
We got fourteen wins this season. We're all in, let's
go for it. Let's take the risks. How about a
Starbucks order? Ridiculous two venti Starbucks. Pike plays coffees each
with two shots of espressos an approximately eleven hundred milligrams
of caffeine. I think that's right before is eight o'clock meeting.
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I just don't know what to say about that. Like,
if I was on a thousand millions, he probably sweat. Yeah,
he must love SNAs just sweat it out.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
No, he just sweats because he's got so many stimulants. Yeah,
and because I sweat a lot. If I drink a
lot of coffee and I throw in a chaw, yeah, yeah,
it's uh, that's that's serious.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I don't know what would happen if I had a
thousand milligrams of caffeine. I mean my max is like
like four hundred. What's your coffee order? Usually like just
a small hot black coffee.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah. I like black coffee too. I like night true.
I will go like a cold brew, oh, Nigel colbrew
when you really need to get going. Oh yeah, delicious.
I don't think it tastes great. I just like to
get the caffeine. No coffee. Yeah, no, it never will
taste great when it's just straight black.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Do you think he got super sad when the NFL
wouldn't provide smelling salts anymore. Uh?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
He was probably the main reason why he, like the
NFL came back out and was like, actually, you are
allowed to have smelling salts, We're just not.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Allowed to provide them. Yeah. He might have been one
of the guys behind it. Damn brother.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
What's his voice saying? Is he gonna bring a Super
Bowl to Detroit?
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I hope so, Man, I think Detroit deserves a Super Bowl.
I mean Detroit. The thing is, man with him, like,
you can't hate on them. Last year there wasn't a team,
or there wasn't a fan that I know of a
team where they're not fans of Detroit, where they hated
on Detroit.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
No one did.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Everyone was cheering for Detroit if their team was out
didn't make the playoffs. Everyone was like, Hey, Detroit Lions,
I want to see them win it, Dan Campbell, everyone
a fan of Detroit's never won a super Bowl. They
never been to a super Bowl, So I was cheering
for them last year. Unfortunately, they had so many injuries
that it's tough to win a super Bowl and playoff
games when you got you know, twelve starters out. I mean,
it's just reality. I mean the kind of usually the
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healthiest team wins in the end, the healthiest and best
team wins. So I think he possibly does bring a
super Bowl. I think I think he does. I want
him to bring.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
A super Bowl to Detroit. That would be cool to see.
That would be cool.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
You know, I'm I'm in the same boat with you.
You know, hopefully they can get one here. That would
be I think that'd be great for the league.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
It would be great for the league, it would be
great for eminem and it would be great for Detroit,
Ink City of Detroit, and Ford and Ford.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Cars missus Ford. I got to meet the meet missus.
Ford was like really cool.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
A lot of a lot of Ford F one fifties
would be sold, a lot of We're going going f
one fifty. Yeah, all right, What kind of dude is
Dan Campbell? Time is up? Yes, what kind of dude
is he? Oh? Man, he's not a stud? I mean
he is in a way.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
He's studily, he's study but like but like he's too
manly to be a study. Yeah, he's too manly, Like
he's too aggressive, Like he's not smooth enough. He's smooth,
but likes he's like he's too masculine. Yeah, he's too
blocky smooth like like that like studs. Like you're like
like you're cool, you know, like you're wearing cool clothes.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Like this dude will put on whatever.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
He'll put on whatever T shirt and shorts are provided
for him and go out there and be just a beast.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
It's freaky to drink eleven hundred milligrams of caffeine.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, that is a kind of freak.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Well that's not dog mentality because dogs actually don't even
need one stimulant at all. So he's much more freaky
that he's drinking that much. Caffeine.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah, but he's definitely a dog. He is a dog. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
He is just relentless motivated, physically, mentally tough. Those those
I think Detroit in the last three years haven't won
lost back to back games, because that's mental toughness. Is
how do you get kicked in the teeth? Okay, you
know everyone could be the winner, Yeah, how are you
when you're the loser?
Speaker 1 (30:12):
But I think he's a dude's dude as well, Like
that positive attitude is a locker room guys. He's kind
of like he's intense, but at the same time, same
time that he's intense, he's also calm and cool about
being so intense, you know, and bringing so much energy,
you know what I mean, Like like it's not like
he's a spasm all over the place, Like it's under control,
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all of his energy.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
He's got a little whizing him because it's a complete unorthodox.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Way of you know, changing the culture of coaching, of
coaching ways and the way completely changing just going his
ways about going a little bit of his way about it.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Is he allowed to be a dude's dog because he's
a coach. So he's allowed to be too because he's
a player.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
And coach and he's Yeah, he's always got a positive attitude.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Oh my gosh, someone has has the rankings change for
once because he was a player and now he's a
head coach.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
So he's a lot to be two. He's a lot
of dog. Yeah, he's a dude's dog. Yeah, he's definitely
a dude's dog.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
He's a dude's because he's a dog, you know, And
he's a dude's dude.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
You know. I'm pretty sure as a coach, I've seen
him cry after a loss. Yeah, didn't he cry after
the loss last year in the playoffs after the one seed?
I think he because he cared so much about the
team and and and real dogs would cry over comrades.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
All dogs go to heaven, Yes, yes, they do, all right,
And he's going to heaven. He's a great dude.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
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Speaker 1 (31:48):
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Delicious chilled. That's what I'm talking about. And with it
being hey everyone, obviously I've been talking about already on
this show, but with it being National tight Ends Day,
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we're going to be answering questions about the tight end position.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Oh let's get into it. This tight end might get
a little freaky. I'm gonna ask you no questions.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
All right, you asked me the questions. I give the
answers presented by cors. Right here we go, Jules.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Who are the best blocking tight ends of all time?
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Who are some of the best blocking tight ends of
all time? That's a great question, and that's a tough
question because it's so easy to name the best like
receiving tight ends, because that's all the glory, it's in
the papers, it's all the highlights. But I'm gonna go
with our guy Dan Campbell, who we just reviewed. That's
why he played ten years in the league. Current guy
George Kittle, he's so good at blocking as well as
being a pass catcher. The most complete tight end in
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the game right now. Mike Dicka, he he was fierce
out there, and I'm gonna give you, give you one more.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I'm gonna go with.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Myself as well. I love blocking, I love blocking. I
took pride in it. So I'm gonna put myself up
there as a fourth.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Perfect all right, Well, what's an underrated trait the best
tight ends have.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
There's an underrated trait, but it's becoming more popular now,
is that tight ends have the most fun on the
football field, that we bring the most joy to the game.
I mean, you see George Kittle play, You see Travis
Kelsey play, myself playing. Every time Jewels you talked about, oh,
Robert catch a ball up the middle, he'd be laughing,
and granted he would.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
And yes, there we go. See there's evidence. I'm not
lying here, folks.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
There's evidence to this proof that we have the best
personalities as well. What we got to do both, so
you got to have great personality. Want to know why?
Why is that?
Speaker 3 (33:36):
It's because linemen are like the greatest group of dudes
on the team, and skilled dudes are usually the cool dudes.
You know, they're hybrids, so they're like the nicest, coolest
dudes with like you know, they're like the funnest group.
But they're half that but also like part cool.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
That is why. All right?
Speaker 1 (33:58):
That is that is one hundred correct again, Jules, thank
you for explaining that temper.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
I was wondering why else tight ends were so cool too? Exactly. Yeah,
thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
All right, are there any young tight ends whose game
you've been loving?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Oh? Yes, he's a rookie.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Right now, I'm gonna go h I know you know
who it is, so I kind of want to switch
it up on you now and say someone else, but
I'm gonna go with him still.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Ty Warren.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
He's doing a great job for Indianapolis Colts. He's been
phenomenal this year and he's been scoring touchdowns. He's been
gronk spiking it as well, and he gronks spikes with
his left hand lefty. I mean, I got the great
him last week. There's a new thing now. It's the
gronk spike scale on Fox on Sundays, and Ty Warren
was the first guy got the gronks spike and he
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got an extra point because he gronks spike lefty.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
What if he's a lefty?
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Hey, you're just getting a plus one every time. Because
he's a lefty and you never really see a Gronk
spike lefty. So if you spike lefty too, and if
you're not, it's always plus one. Now I make the rules,
and no one else can change the rules.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Rule are rules.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
So Ty Warren, that's all we got to talk about
is only him. We don't need to talk about any
other young tight ends right now. We know brock Bauers
is great, but we're he's been banged up. Tywar is
the real deal right now. He's my favorite young buck.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
All right, all right, all right, who's all right? Who's
going to have the best day on National tight End Day?
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Like the best the best statistical day for all out
all the tight ends?
Speaker 2 (35:29):
National Titan Here we go.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
I'm gonna go with the Green Bay Pokers tight end
Tucker Kraft. I'm going Tucker Craft because he goes off
every once in a while, and this is the time
he needs to go off. Because I'm predicting him to
go off for National tight Ends Day. Uh you know,
they didn't really have that great of an offensive game
last week. Uh so I think that since they didn't
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have a great offensive game, that Jordan Love and the
Tucker Craft connection is going to go off. I don't
even know who they're playing. I'm just saying Tucker Craft
is going to come. He has big games every once
in a while. He's a hard nosed player, he really is.
He's a true title he loves blocking, he has grit,
and he's hired to take down once he gets the
ball in his hands. So I'm going with under the
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radar guy Tucker Kraft to put up the most statistics
on national tight end.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I like that. I like that. I like that.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
And then lastly, I've always been kind of curious because I
never had the big size speeder hand size of you.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Yeah, I got big hands, jewels. I was just born
with them. So you know, who would you be jealous
of something that I was just born with?
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I know? But who?
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Who would you rather be covered by a safety, a
corner or a linebacker.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
I'm covered by this cors layer now because it's in
my mouth. It's covering my whole mouth. That's why it's
the chill zone. Yeah, it feels it feels good because
it's chill. And I was sweating in here because Dan
Campbell has so much caffeine that I started sweating for him.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
This cors light is chilling me out right now. Oh
what was the question again?
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Who would you rather be covered by us? In the
lead tight end? Tall, a safety, a corner, or a linebacker.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
You know, it's a situational here, I mean, and when
you got a legit, legit linebacker who knows how to cover,
I would rather get covered by a safety who is
less legit. You know, A corner where I would say
would be the hardest because they can always stay up
on me. But a tall corner was super super tough.
A small corner, even though they're faster, I can use
my size in my body. A linebacker I can usually
always run by. But then every once in a while
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there's a linebacker that is actually athletic enough to cover me,
and that makes it tough because he's bigger. And when
they can cover you, I can't use my size because
then they have size. So I loved when a safety
came down who was kind of slower as a safety,
a slower cover safety. So if it's a linebacker who's
who's fast and athletic with size, don't like a corner
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that's more tall. I don't care if they're small. I
can bully them. If they're tall and they're more built stronger,
those are tough on me. And then safeties, you know
kind of like like there's you know, they're usually slower,
you know, that's why they're playing safety. They can't run
for safe. Yeah, it's tough for safeties to cover. So
but if in the end in space, in the end,
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out of any anyone I would have to draw up,
who I would love to be covered by is one
of defensive end drops and has to cover me.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
That was my favorite. I got open every single time. Ninkovich. Yeah,
like Rob ninkovitch perfect.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Like he he I want to be who I was
about Rob Ninkov asked him. I was one hundred percent
completion rate against him in training camp my second year,
and that's where I got like this confidence up and
like it was.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
It was. It was great.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
I thank him and he even takes credit for my
career as well because of that. We we appreciate you, Ninko.
But he did knock my head off on the in
the run game like fifty times. We appreciate you, but
my head still on, so he actually technically didn't knock
it off.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
So he didn't knock it off. Yeah, you need to
knock it off. And that was the chillest dude of
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Speaker 2 (39:07):
That was wow.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Another fun episode of Dudes on Dudes tight End National
Tight Ends Day.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
I can't wait to see you celebrating this week due.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Oh my god, that's gonna be so fun because I'm
not even on Fox this weekend and You're gonna have
to celebrate for me, now.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
I know. Yeah, thank you.
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