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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Just talk to day Ball. I just called him. He goes,
what do you need? I go ahead. I don't need anything.
I just want to see how you're doing. He's just
excited for the season, the same guy always. Welcome to
Dudes on Dudes. I'm Julian Edelman and I'm Rob Gronkowski
And this is the show where your favorite dudes talk
about their favorite dudes. What are we talking about today

(00:20):
than Robbie.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
G favorite training camp memories.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Who you'd rather negotiate with Bill Belichick or Jerry Jones?

Speaker 2 (00:26):
And what a bust of Von diggs impressive offseason that
he's having on boats and on the football field. On
top of that, we have a special Hall of Fame
edition of Chillis Dude of the Week.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Let's Go Dudes On Dude is a production of iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Who Wants to Hang with Jewels and I We are
heading back to Boston for Dudes on Dudes and Games
with Names Live Show, and we are bringing the whole
nuthouse with us. It's going to be absolutely insane. We'll
have plenty of special guests and some awesome surprises. It's
all going down August twenty eighth at the MGM Music

(01:08):
Hall at Fenway. Tickets are on sale now. Go to
ticketmaster dot com and search for US, or you can
find a direct link in the descriptions of any of
our socials. It's going to be a blast. We'll see
you there.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Football's back, Rob, Yes, it is Jules.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
It's only July, and everyone's excited for the NFL season.
And what's crazy is there's a game now in July.
Obviously it's a Hall of Fame game. It really doesn't
matter much. There's very little meaning to the game. It's
like the third stringers, four stringers playing the whole time.
But it just feels good to just sniff the game

(01:45):
of football in the air and knowing it's back and
it's right around the corner from NFL kickoff Week one.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
One thousand percent. Now for viewer like football being back
in Hall of Fame game is cool for like the
first play and then you're like, hmm, these guys are
barely playing the playing surfaces. Dog shit this, you know
what I mean. But for a player, when you're a
player that gets to play in the Hall of Fame game,
I never got to play in the Hall of Fame game,

(02:13):
but you get like these teams can take advantage of
having this extra time together, these extra padded practices. Don't
you get extra time if you're in the Hall of
Fame game.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, you started about five days earlier.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Five days earlier around there, yep, and right now. With
the practice regulations of padded practices and stuff, that team,
even though they're not going to play their starters in
that that game, they get to go to pads one
week earlier, so that those offensive linemen get to hit
together one week before. Is that not a little advantage?

(02:47):
Has anyone ever thought of it that way?

Speaker 2 (02:49):
It's a little advantage, or you can look at it
as it's more wear and tear throughout the whole time.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
But if you play, depending on your team, situationally, depending
on your team, if you're a team that needs the reps,
like a lot of these young football teams do, this
could be advantage. If you're an old veteran team, you
could still have a productive week. I know it's gonna
be bullshit for older guys that are you know, you
gotta come back a week earlier. You know that sucks.
But you know, if used right, this could be This

(03:16):
could be great for these teams. Chargers and Detroit Detroit
having a one one extra game for these new coordinators
to go in John Morton, Kevin Shephard, like these guys
haven't called plays yet, to have one extra game to
go in and have a situational game day operation, communicating

(03:37):
plays into a team, hearing and communicating with other coaches
that are in the box and seeing what they're seeing.
Like this is big deal for you know, the for
the Detroit Lions. I bet. I mean, if they're taking
it that way.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Let me get your take on this too, Julian, When
football season was always right around the corner and I
showed up the training camp, like my mind and my
body just was always telling me it was football season.
It was like there was this on off switch and
it was always turned on the day that I walked
into training camp. How is your body feeling right now

(04:11):
being retired for a couple of years with football season
now on its way, does do you still got that
feeling or is it a little bit different being retired?

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Well, it's crazy that you you say that, Rob. I was.
I was across the pond over in London doing a
bake show, The Great American Bake Show against Antonio Gates,
Von Miller and Mina chimes well.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Shout out to Antonio Gates twenty twenty five NFL Hall
of Fame collapse, Antonio Gates, you the man, appreciate everything
that is.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
We'll get into him a little later, right, we'll get
into But I was over there doing that show, and
then I went over to Italy and was chilling in
the Mediterranean, and like I swear to god, I woke
up one morning in my hamstrings like we're talking to me, like, hey, buddy,
like you should what are you doing? You should be out,

(05:06):
You should be out going somewhere and getting ready, Like
I still have the body clock to like that anxiety
of excitement, anxiety like a week before you report, like
and that was like a week before and I just
started having it. It's crazy. I mean, we did this
for a long time. I don't I think your body's

(05:27):
still in the clock, like in the spring and stuff.
I'm always like, you know, I feel like I should
be in a camp coming up or I still get
those feelings, do you.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Not too much anymore? After the first year or two
of being retired, I my body clock would be telling
me all right, football is right around the corner. It
actually started this year when a couple of teams went
to training camp and I was like, I signed on
the social media. I was like, what the heck football's going.
There's guys going in the training camp. I was like,
it's like July seventeenth right now. That was shocking to me.
I was not ready for that situation. So that's when

(05:59):
you know you've been reading hired for a couple of
years then, because then your body clock is getting away
from its normal routine. But the one thing I got prepared,
you know, you know every single year when I was playing,
is this is this is how I did it. Jules Like,
I wasn't the guy that was just focusing on my routes,
like what pitter pattering through drills and all that. It

(06:20):
was like, okay, training camps right around the corner. All right,
I'm going to get a couple of workouts in and
four days before I show up, I'm going to get
the biggest workout impossible, and then take off those three days.
So then when I show up, I'm excited to work
again and I'm ready to go. And that workout that
I would do would be the most beastly workout of

(06:41):
all times four days before I had a report, and
I would push the sled for about thirty minutes. I
would do a whole lower body work, I would do
a whole upper body work, and I would go out
and I would run one hundreds and I'd be sore
for like two days, and then the soreness would go
away and I would show up the camp and kubboom,
I would be ready to go. And that was my
routine going into the season every single year to get

(07:04):
me ready. Just one massive, massive workout and boom, it
just brought me back. I wish I could still do
that and be recovered in a day or two, but
times are different, and that's how I know my body
clock has changed a little bit as well.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Rob.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
I've been seeing you doing all these T mobile spots.
What is this?

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, so it's a campaign. It's Friday Night five g
lights campaign that T Mobile started last year and last year,
Ion a high school in Oklahoma won it all. And
what was cool is that when we were shooting dudes.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
You you won a high school.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
No, ion a high school won the campaign.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
So the campaign, Oh, you said you own ion a
high school? How do you own a high school.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
I should own a high school and teach these kids
what to do and get on the right track. Jewels.
You know, I would be the just over principal teacher,
you know, student counselor principal rob That sounds pretty good.
But Team Mobile created a campaign last year and it's
for all small town high schools out there, and any
small town high school can enter. And last year the

(08:11):
grand prize was two hundred and fifty thousand dollars in total,
and you got a whole high school makeover, football field
high school football field makeover, so you would get like
a new Jumbo trin. You'll get a new weight room,
actually a Gronk Fitness weight room, which is super unique.
What else you got bleachers, all cheerleaders, get all new uniforms,

(08:31):
all that good stuff. And this year we ramped it
up to a whole other level. So now four hundred
and fifty schools can win five thousand dollars. Then there's
twenty five schools that can win twenty five thousand dollars
this year, and then there's going to be one school
that wins the ultimate grand prize that's one million dollars,
and that includes obviously a home field makeover, another Gronk

(08:55):
fitness weight room, a trip to the SEC Championship game,
and a whole via trip, yes, a VIP trip that
is correct, and a whole bunch more. And if you
want to enter this, if you're a small town high
school and you guys need a new stadium or just
need some upgrades, you can enter at Friday night fiveg
lights dot com and Juel speaking about the T mobile

(09:15):
campaign and all these high schools that can enter the
Friday Night five G Lights you know promo that's going on.
On top of that, if you're a high schooler that
makes a sick play, send it our way here at
Dudes on Dudes and we will feature that play live
and then determine what kind of dude you are as well. So,

(09:37):
for example, that catch that you had in the Super
Bowl versus Atlanta Falcons, Julian, if a high schooler makes
a similar catch, a one handed grab that's awesome and
gets the crowd going, send it in. We will feature it,
and then we will grade what kind of dude that
you are?

Speaker 1 (09:51):
I love that. What kind of dude does that play
of the catch? What's that dude? Dog that's a dog
right there. We know you're a dog.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
You just want to hear it again. No, no, you ain't, No, you're.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
It's pretty good, sounds pretty good from a couple thousand
miles away. Post your highlight and tag dudes on dudes
and use the hashtag Friday Night Dudes. Also, we have
the live show coming up August twenty eighth. We're lining
up some cool guests. You guys got to go out.
Check it out. Mark your calendars. It's August twenty eighth,

(10:31):
eight pm at the MGM Music Hall in Boston, Massachusetts.
Tickets are available at ticketmaster dot com. But hurry, they
are going fast. Eighty percent of the show is sold out,
so you know, we got a couple more here, a couple,
a couple more seats.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Hurry up. It's going fast, jewels. And we're coming up
with some fun stuff as well. And if you have
any ideas, please send them our way. It's like you
high schoolers. If you guys make a great send it
our way. And on top of it, if you got
any fun stuff that you want us to do at
the live show August twenty eighth, send it our way.
Also send some ideas, what type of action we shall do.

(11:11):
It's August twenty eighth. Papa Gronck is going to be
in town two. He can't miss the live show. He
missed the first one that was at Fanatics Fast he
was disappointed, so he's coming into town for this one
as well. Ralphie may be there. Camille wants to go.
She already stole the games with names Jersey from the
last live show, and this one's going to be popping
because now we're more comfortable jewels, we know what we're

(11:32):
doing in front of a crowd. MGM Grant holds forty
five hundred. We're eighty percent sold out and we in
Boston were champs there. We need to sell it out.
All forty five hundred tickets need to be sold out,
and we need to feel that energy. It's a way
we can connect with our fans once again here in
the New England area. Jules, I'm going to bring a

(11:52):
Super Bowl ring. I never get to wear my Super
Bowl rings ever, so I'm going to bring a couple
of them to the live show as well. I think
you should bring one or two of yours, not all three,
but you should bring one or two.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
All right, one or two. I'll bring a couple. I'll
bring a couple. News from the NFL. Let's get into it.
Huh mm hmm. It might be July, but there's plenty
of news going around the league. Let's catch up on
some of these big stories. Roberto.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, let's let's see what the big stories are here.
I mean, it's just July. I don't know how, but
the NFL can just create a storyline with anything. The
kickoffs in forty five days. I mean. The first big story,
which is unbelievable and the fans absolutely love, is that
the madding ratings come out and think about this Jewels

(12:40):
And this just reminds me that I was on the
cover of Madden twenty seventeen, which was super special like
that just hell yeah, it just triggered that memory. So
that was really cool.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
So you were in the ninety nine club seven seven
players in the ninety nine club.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Seven players this year you got Sakwan Barkley, Lane Johnson,
Josh Allen, Jamar, Chase Lamar, Justin Jefferson, Biles Garrett. Who
do you think got snubbed there? Because those seven players
right there deserve it. Most surprising is Lane Johnson, just
because he's an offensive lineman. But he deserves it because
he plays. He has like a torn meniscus squad whatever

(13:14):
it is, and he goes through it and he doesn't
even deal with pain, and he just fights through anything
and just takes it out on his opponent. But it's
it's really cool to see an offensive lineman on there.
But who do you think got snubbed from this year's
ninety nine club?

Speaker 1 (13:27):
How is Patrick Mahomes out of ninety nine?

Speaker 2 (13:30):
That's a good point.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
How he literally had a depleted team last year. All
of his receivers were hurt, his offensive line got shattered.
They had two losses last year to go to the
Super Bowl for a three peat. This guy's out in
ninety nine. I think that's crazy. He's he's still the
best player in football. Josh Allen and Lamar still haven't

(13:54):
beat him, like when it mattered, and he didn't even
have the the teams. And I don't want to hear
that Josh Allen don't have a team. I think that
little secure dudes had look good. He's got some good
he got some playmaker. He's got two good tight ends. Yeah,
great cooks. He's over here running his back. He's running hard,

(14:14):
Cooks had a great, great year. I mean, who do
you think got snubbed? Do you think anyone got snubbed?

Speaker 2 (14:19):
I mean, the Patrick Mahomes debate is very you know,
a highly debatable subject right there. If he should be
in the ninety nine club, and especially I think so
because he helped me out with that tea mobile commercial
actually for the Friday Night five g Lights. He's part
of it as well, that campaign, So he did a
great job with me. So I'm just being biased now
that he should be in the ninety nine club for

(14:40):
just doing the high school campaign a promotion. But who
do I think those seven guys are well deserved? Derek
Henry's pretty beastly, you know, He's definitely should be up there,
especially with all the years that he produced consistently consistently.

(15:02):
That's also I feel like what they're looking at is consistency.
It's not like you can have one year where you
ball and then you become a ninety nine. I don't
think it works like that at all. So Derek Henry
has been very, very consistent. So he's kind of a snob.
I would say he deserves to be a ninety nine
at least once in his career, and I don't think
he has been so at least once. Who really, no

(15:23):
one else pops to my mind. You know currently, oh
the d end from Pittsburgh and from a Las Vegas Raiders,
Max Crosby and TJ. Watt, Like, those guys can definitely
be ninety nine especial. I mean they're both became the
highest paid players that you know, outside of a quarterback

(15:45):
in league history this year at one point in the offseason,
So they can both be ninety nine's very easily. I mean,
so it's just a debate. It's it's kind of like
the NC double A. Who runs the NC double A.
No one knows who makes the rat matting ratings. No
one has any single clue.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
I think they probably know who makes the matting rakings,
but I don't know who runs in sible A. I
don't think anyone does. Talking to college, shout out to
Dion Man, he beat cancer. We're thinking about your coach Prime.
I mean, he got it all removed city, he had
calls with Randy during his fight. I mean, now he's

(16:27):
cancer fee free and he's gonna be on the sidelines.
I mean, you expect nothing less from coach Prime. You know,
he knew he was gonna coach.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
He was shout out to diad and and not just
what's going on with him with his health. You know,
obviously we're all thinking about you, man, and we're glad
that you're cancer free now, but also what he has
done for the you know, the game of college football.
He's brought so much awareness to the University of Colorado
and he's made it that much more fun to watch.

(16:54):
Just imagine if Coach Prime wasn't there, I mean, you
wouldn't be tuning into games majority of the time on
sadday and feeling that action, having that anxiety of all right,
what's Coach Prime in the Colorado Buffalo is going to
do this week? So, Coach, we appreciate you on the
field off the field, and also we appreciate your fight
and becoming cancer free because I'm sure you're going to

(17:15):
inspire a lot of people out there that are going
through it right now that do have cancer. So keep
up the good work and we're wishing you the best
this year, you know, and hopefully you win some games
and keep making exciting Thank you.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Travis Hunter. Offense defensive snap count is a headline, so
far eighty three total snaps, thirty six snaps on offense,
forty seven snaps on defense, had some notable pass breakups,
made some notable nice catches. Do you think he's he's

(17:51):
gonna be offense or defensive guy? You think this is
going to continue having a balanced attack.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
I really do think it's going to continue. Why I
think so, because he's putting it out there. He's manifesting
that he wants to play both sides of the ball.
And the Jacksonville Jaguars didn't just trade up to number
two to just get him and not let him do
what he wants to do. And he was saying it
from the beginning, Hey, I want to play both sides
of the ball. And if Jacksonville listened to him in

(18:17):
the you know, in the pre draft visits, and they
know that he wants to do that and he's determined
to want to do it, well, then they've already been
showing Hey, here you go, we're going to have a
balance going on throughout practice. You're going to have half
the reps here, half the reps on defense and offense.
And it's been working. He's been shining on both sides.
I'm not there to say, hey, maybe he should just

(18:39):
stick the offense or maybe he should just stick to defense.
But this was their plan from the beginning, So why
go off track If he's performing, you know, it doesn't
even have to be at a high level, he just
has to be performing at a starting level, which it
seems like he is. Jules, what do you think about
this situation?

Speaker 1 (18:56):
I think they're still trying to figure out what he's
best at. I mean, that's what training camps for. They're
gonna throw him out there as much as they can.
They're gonna see what his load management type is and
how his body takes it, and then they're ultimately gonna
see what's best for the team. You know, if Trevor
Lawrence needs him on offense, and Trevor Lawrence likes him

(19:16):
a lot, then he's probably gonna be on offense with
you know, a package and third down on defense, or
in the red area and defense or vice versa. So
I still think that they're they're trying to figure out
just like every other team with their rookies and their
free agents. They're newer players. They're trying to figure out
what his strengths, his best parts are, his game and
his weakest parts are to his game and how it

(19:38):
can help the team. So, you know, I think it's
gonna continue. But then I think it'll he's gonna stick
to one side and have packages on the other. I
don't think he'll play the whole game on both sides.
I don't think his body will be able to sustain it.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
I like what you're saying. I really do like the
balance attack right now. This you know, nitpick, you know
what he's best at and what's best for the team.
But in the end, I really do think what he
is really better at, he'll be there full time. And
then what he's not so good at, you know, not
as good as you know. If he's not as good
as you know being a wide receiver as he is
a defensive bat, then like you just said, he'll have packages,

(20:15):
you know, put in for him, which I think would
be the best scenario for his long term well being
in the NFL is to have wide receiver packages, score
some touchdowns in the red zone, and then be a
full time defensive back. And Jules, that's what I would
have been if I played defensive vent I would have
been a killer. I would have gotten the quarterback I

(20:35):
was actually All state defensive end in high school and
I only had eight receptions my senior year as a
tight end. But if I imagine if I just played
defensive end and then it was like red zone, Brady
would just wave me in and I would just go
out there and score like three touchdowns a game, only
have twelve offensive snaps. That would be the legendary.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
That's not basically what Mike Rabel did. Yeah, rob Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
He was goal package. There's a difference between goal line
package and red zone package. I'm the red zone package.
He's just a goal line package. Oh, he's the full
package in the coaching world. Now I can give him that.
He's done it all.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
We'll get into it.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah, we'll get it, get in him. But he ain't.
He ain't the Robbie g red zone pack. He's just
he's a solid full back, goal line package, taking him
from the linebacker spot.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeah, I agree. I agree. He ain't no Rubbie T.
He's He's a hell of a football player, no doubt
about that. No progress in the Micah Parsons contract talks
in Dallas. Entering his final year of his rookie deal,
this fifth year option will pay him twenty four million,
had twelve sacks last year, fans chanting, which I could

(21:51):
probably I thought I heard down in Oxnard, pay Mike
go pay my go at camp. Do you think they'll
come to a deal a deal soon, Rob.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
I think they'll come to a deal soon. And the
Dallas Cowboys have actually already screwed themselves a few times
this year because if they got the deal done at
the beginning of the offseason, they're gonna have to they were,
they could have paid them a lot less and than
what they're going to have to pay them now. It's
all working in Michael Parson's, you know, favor, because MaTx
Crosby signed as the highest paid player in the NFL

(22:25):
that wasn't a quarterback. And then all of a sudden,
Miles Garrett became the highest paid defensive end, you know,
and not just he's a defensive end, but he became
qua non quarterback. But he's a d M just like
I mean basically DN, just like Micah Parsons is. And
then all of a sudden, it's TJ. Watt now who
got highest paid contract of all time. That's not a quarterback.

(22:48):
So if the Dallas Cowboys signed him before that they
could have saved a couple million dollars. But now he's
going to have to be the highest paid eventually. So
it's costing the Dallas Cowboys, you know, the longer that
they wait. But I do think a deal will get
done in place because he is kind of the face
outside of Dak Prescott. He is kind of the face
of the Dallas Cowboys. But he is Dak as you know,

(23:11):
as on on the defensive side of the ball. But
what's crazy about this is like just blatantly talking about it.
We're coming from a different world, Julian. We played with
the New England Patriots where lips were sealed, where you
don't talk much to the media what's going on. So
and it's a different era as well. It's just mind
blowing to me though still because we came up in

(23:31):
that era with the Patriots that they just talk about
contracts to the media just like that. Like imagine if
that was happening with us when we were playing in
our heyday, like we would have been traded like right
on the spot. Probably.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, it's but it's also changed, Yes, it has. It's
you know, you know, other players do it and other
players get rewarded with it. I mean, I think Jerry's
probably doing some like Jedi stuff right now where Jedi
mind tricks where he probably wants him to be the
highest paid guy and he wants the last guy before

(24:07):
the season starts. So then that's fresh. And everyone said,
I don't know, Jerry ends up always paying the guys.
That's the difference. Like we have a question on here,
wh would rather negotiate against Bill or Jerry pays his guys.
Bill would just get rid of you. Mm hm, So
I'd rather go Jerry. It'll be longer, but Jerry gonna
pay you. Jerry pay you. Yeah, he sure does. Prescott

(24:30):
towards a cl paid him, made him the highest paid player.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Mm hm, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Ceedee Lamb highest paid receiver. Ferguson just got paid. He's
damn He's probably up there one of the highest paid
tight ends. I don't know the contract details, but he's
getting chedder.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
I saw his contract details.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
It was a good it was very fair.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
It was I think it was right at market value.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Jerry pays his guys. Just maybe he doesn't care about
paying a couple extra. Maybe he wants the headline to
having the highest paid guy. That's what I think. M hmm,
Jerry don't care. Is Jerry gonna pay him or is
he gonna get or is he gonna get like he's
not he's never got rid of like the high high
name guy. And Micah is the high name guy when
Ceedeelamb was going through it, when Dak was going through it,

(25:14):
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
So mm hmm, pay him, pay Micah.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
The tower caps only going up, might.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
As well just get it done as soon as possible.
You know, I know my as well, so it's not
a distraction anymore.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Sources also say Terry McLaurin and the commanders aren't even
close now. I think they gotta pay him. The quarterback
is making nothing, you know, jayde Daniel's making nothing right now.
You got you got Deebo Samuel who's coming in making
twenty million probably, I think right on his deal. You
can't have even though this guy got traded to your team,

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you can't have Deebo Samuel making more money than Terry
McLaurin in that room. When Terry McLaurin, he's had like
five years of Hunter catch seasons he's at he's been
there since there through three name changes. He's had unbelievable stats.
He's clearly the number one favorite target of your young
future quarterback. You gotta pay this guy and get him,
get him happy. I love Terry mclaur I think he's

(26:13):
a baller in you know, he's quiet, he does his
he does his shit, doesn't say much about it. And
he's got numbers. If you look, what are his numbers?
What are his numbers.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
He's single handily kept the Commanders kind of in the
game when they were facing the Philadelphia Eagles last year
in the NFC Championship game. I mean, without him taking
that slant to the house and versus All Pro quarterback
Darius Slay, the Commanders would have been way out of
that game and they would have absolutely no chance. You know,

(26:45):
in the championship NFC at NFC game.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
He's had what he's had fifty eight eighty seven, seventy seven,
seventy seven, seventy nine, eighty two catch seasons. I mean,
he's averaging yards, he's getting the ball.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Thirteen touchdowns last thirteen touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Thirteen thirteen touchdowns. You gotta pay him. DK just got
thirty three million. Now, I would say these guys should
have paid him earlier, as in the commander should have
paid him more than you know. I mean, I I
don't ever question Jerry because Jerry always gets it done,
and Jerry has that kind of power where he can

(27:22):
do that and play like Mike is still at camp
right because so he knows he's probably gonna get paid.
He probably doesn't like how it's going down. Jerry gonna
probably pay him. But you know, this is this I
don't know, like you gotta get Terry McLaurin happy, get
this guy like this is valuable time that your young
quarterback going into year two needs with his star in camp,

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those those reps together, he's not practicing, right.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
How do you think this situation ends up?

Speaker 1 (27:52):
I think they gotta pay him. I mean, right now,
you can pay him. Debo's making twenty three this Year's
what's McLaurin making eight eight?

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Now, he got a big deal a couple of years ago,
but nothing like what it is, you know, to what
these current wide receivers signed.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
For fifteen million. That can be yeah, cap hits at
twenty five, but it's still it's still his cap hit
is lower than what guys are making as salaries. So
they need to extend them because then you can make
that cap hit shorter this year base of fifteen, he
make it fifteen million dollars this year.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
And then if you do the little contract extension as well,
you can actually probably lower that, you know, salary cap
hit hit that's twenty five million, probably make it like
fifteen or twenty million, just depending on the smarts of
the GM and how they move the money around.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
So don't know how they do it, but they do
it every time they do so every single extend them
make it less. Okay, I don't know how it goes,
but you extend them, it makes it less. Let's kick
it down the road. We never really have to worry
about kicking it down the road because the salary cap
is always going fucking high. I have we not been
seeing what Howie Rosman has been doing. This guy pays everyone.

(29:05):
He pays everyone. It kicks it down the road. Okay,
the salary cap just got thirty million dollars more. It's crazy.
They still don't get it. I still don't get it.
I still don't get the cap. I've been around this
league now twenty fifteen years, don't know anything about it.
I was always told our teams had no money spend.

(29:26):
No one got paid. SPAN always told our I was
always told our teams never had money to pay anyone.
No one had huge contracts. I look at the Philadelphia Eagles.
Everyone has huge contracts. How do they have money?

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Keep going to his expansion, expansion of the NFL into Europe,
even Spain.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
Madrid even has a game. Now, that's what they got one.
That's how they're going to Germany. We're going to We're
going to Australia next year. I think there's a japan
trip coming here soon.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
South America.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Oh yeah, Brazil baby back in Brazil, Giants named Russell
Wilson as their starting quarterback. Just talk to day Ball.
I just called him. He goes, what do you need?
I go, I don't need anything. I just want to
see how you're doing. I just want to see how
you're doing. And Dave all like day Ball like he's
just like yeah, he's just excited for the season, the

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same guy always. And that's like a strength right there,
because I was calling on him like shit, and after
watching given their running back away, he goes, wins MVP
super Bowl. This that you know what I mean? There's
been a lot of stuff for him and they're in
the hot seat and you would never know just from
talking to him. And that's just the kind of coach
he is. He's he's gonna let he ain't gonna let

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that stuff handle him. He's just gonna go and he's
gonna coach.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Dable's an optimistic guy, cool as a cucumber. Always bringing
the juice. Every juice had juice on the call, Always
has juice. I admire him. Always have juice. If he's
weighing two hundred and fifty pounds, he has juice. And
somehow he goes on a diet and he's weighing one
hundred and eighty pounds, he has juice. The guy has juice,

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and I love it.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
And it's good juice, great juice, because sometimes you can
have false juice, contagious. It's contagious juice. I remember walking
by your guys' room and you guys be playing fucking
formation Jeopardy, and I just walked by and like, man,
they have so much fun. They have so much juice
in that room. Chattio had juice too, though Chatdio had juice.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Oh, Chattio definitely has juice.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Love Chattio, get him back to the Giants. I'm excited
for them this year. They have an unbelievable defensive line.
Abdul Carter looks like a monster out there. They already
have Dexter Lawrence, rahem Nuez Roaches, who's in the eleventh year,
Harris on the edge. Also, they got a couple of guys.

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They got the third rounder, another defensive end out of Toledo,
Darius Alexander. They got like an unbelievable defensive line. Malik
Neighbors's stud the tracy running back kid last year was
was damn good. And you know, Russell Wilson's gonna take
care of the football, right h Russell Wilson had what

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thirty thirty touchdowns and six interceptions ten interceptions last year?
What was his stats? He was he was pretty effective.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah, he played well.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
You know, he's not the Russell Wilson of the pass
where he's gonna make ten guys miss and throw a
moonshot ball sixty yards down the field with his athleticism.
But he's gonna take care of the football and he's
gonna probably put you in the best play. And if
I think Dave Ball could work with that. So I'm
excited for that at Giants team.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
All this Giants talk, Jules, what's the over under you
would say for wins this year for the New York Giants?

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Oh? Nikes, what is what is the whats Vegas got
him at?

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Now? I want to hear yours? Where would you play?

Speaker 1 (32:56):
So before before I hear Vegas, I would say eight
and a half, I was gonna say eight? What's Vegas?
He has five and a half. Oh, I'm taking over
all that.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
I'm going over to go over put him out bet
in the fan duel right after this, and.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Then one more thing on the Giants and naming Russell
Wilson as their starter. I think it's good for Jackson
Dart to see Russell Wilson as a professional. Okay, everyone
can say what they want about Russell Wilson, but as
a professional, you know, he goes to work and brings
his a game, positive attitude every single day. That's good

(33:33):
for other guys to see. You know, he goes in
there and has a pre workout that he does to
get himself warmed up. You know, he's got his probably
body guy waiting for him in the parking lot because
he's probably not allowed there anymore after the last case,
but you see him taking care of his body. You
definitely see Russell Wilson watching extra game film and probably
is a nice enough guy to take in a rookie

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quarterback and say, hey, why don't you come watch with me.
That's the kind of guy he is. So I think
this is great for their first round Draft two.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
And Russell Wilson last year basically threw for twenty five
hundred yards, sixteen touchdowns and just five interceptions in eleven games.
Like that, that's legit. And I feel like this year
with Dabel being his head coach, Dabel can bring the
best out of you. I feel like you can see
Russell Wilson bringing back that old school mentality like from

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twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen seasons when he was younger,
and making guys miss again and bringing the best out
of them, because that's what Dabel does. I had him
as a coach for three years here in New England, Jewels,
and he gets the juice out of you, and I
feel like he can get the juice out of Russell
Wilson as well. So don't be surprised if you see

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him making some plays like back in the Hay late
when he.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Was in his prime prime and he got my leak neighbors,
and Russell throws great d balls.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Okay, Jules, let's get you know to some Patriots talk.
There's a buzz back in New England and the crowds
are flocking to Jillette.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Let's hear some of these Patriots stories so far. A
little camp talk. What do you remember about early days
of camp?

Speaker 2 (35:05):
M I mean, I just remember I had approved myself.
I was a humble guy. I really was like, didn't
really talk as much, you know, because you just were
trying to fit in, and you wanted the respect from
your peers. You wanted the respect from the older guys,
and walking in and running your mouth isn't going to
get you that respect. It's going out on the football
field improving yourself. So I just remember in training camp

(35:27):
in the early early days, was that I just wanted
to give it my best every single day. And also
what I wanted to do on a daily basis was
the show improvement. That's what's going to keep you around
in the NFL as a young buck is showing that
you're improving on a daily basis, if it's in the
weight room, if it's on the field and some type

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of route that, if it's some type of route that
you're running, if you're improving in the block game technique,
if you're just showing that you're willing to get better
on a daily basis, you will stick around. And if
you don't make the team, the club the fifty three
man roster, while they know that you're a guy that
wants to work and get better, so boom, there's going
to be room for you on that practice squad no

(36:09):
matter what. So I remember those days of just trying
to be the best and improving every day and get
the respect of the older guys and just going balls out,
because when you're a young buck like that, it don't
matter how you're feeling, you can go balls out. You
use your body like you're getting freaking drilled on a
daily You use your body like I don't know, like

(36:31):
a rag every single day, and in the carwash, just
freaking getting abuse, getting getting wet, getting dried off. It
doesn't matter. You're used all over the place. So those
are the things I kind of remember, Jules. And also
one thing I do remember is Rob Ninkovich. He tried
covering me my second year in training camp, and I

(36:53):
was about ten for ten on him. He actually got
my career booming because he built up my confidence. He
couldn't cut me, and if he was on me, I
just jumped over him and made all the catches right
over his head. So thank you, Rob Nikovich. Those are
the days, glory days.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Was Rob Nikovich official slumpbuster.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
He was.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Do you put him on Robbie g when you need
to get the confidence of the fella? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Well, I would dominating everyone that year, Juli, So it
wasn't just Nikovich.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
You dominated everyone a lot of years, bro. Yeah, those
early day camp days man be seen, don't be heard,
kind of just did you get it? You had double
days one year, right, I had double.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Days actually my rookie year. And then after that because
then there was a lockout and we didn't have to
go inside the facility for six months, and I remember
I showed up and I was in the best shape
of my life actually after that lockout, and it kind
of proved that you actually don't truly need an offseason
as long as you're really doing the right things outside
of the facility wherever you're at, but double dates.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
How many guys are going to do the right thing?

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Not too many. That's why it's good to have an
off season program and have everyone in the building to
make sure everyone stays in top shape. There are guys
at will, but it's not everyone. It's always good to
be around your teammates as well, you know, throughout the
whole entire year. What do you remember, Jules being a
young buck Patriots training camp. One other thing I remember
is the crowds. I mean the Patriot fans. They show up.

(38:26):
I remember Kevin Falk my rookie year. He looked around
and he goes, don't people work here in New England?
And I was just laughing. I'm like, I guess not.
I mean there's ten eight thousand people here at just
a training camp practice on a freaking Wednesday morning at
nine am. I mean, they show out for us. That's
why New England best, you know, the Boston area, best

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sports town, and all of America. They show up for
their team no matter what the situation is.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
I definitely remember the crowd. I mean I went to
Kent State like my senior night. We had like four
hundred people that are our game, the Division one game.
So when first day we go out and there's ten
fifteen thousand people, it was like, you got nervous. I
got nervous when I went out there and they knew
all the other guys, you know, and you're just kind

(39:15):
of like a rookie or you know, slappy just running around.
And I remember I was catching punts before a practice
and I muffed one and the crowd booed me, and
Bruski came around and said, they're just saying brew or
so he kinda he kind of said something like that,
really just saying my name. It's like make me feel
better because I you know what I mean. I think

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that's what I from what I remember. But yeah, the
crowd was always insane. Let's get into some of these
Patriot headlines. Keon White already has some aura in camp.
On Mike Rabel. I think he's a pretty good head coach.
I like him because he's a hard ass. He went
on to drop another quote. Leading with violence is always

(39:58):
my type of stuff. He's looking cool and got caught
resting in the locker room in a blow up mattress
that he brought, so he's vested in camp life. That's
that's some good stuff. Do you hear. I hear he's been.
I hear he's in great shape. They always talk about
him being a physical fenom.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Jah White's a monster, he really is. He's gonna be
one of their best players in the defensive side of
the ball. If we had a you know, just give
him a title Jewels, if we had a great him
right now, we would say that he's a dog because
he has that mentality of just being a dog, and
he plays like he is, plays like one of one.
He plays like he's a dog out on the field

(40:38):
as well. And speaking of naps, I mean, naps are
crucial in training camp. If you want to perform at
your best, a twenty minute power nap, you know, is
what it's all about. So you got to tip your
hat to him. Even though he's an absolute dog. Dogs
get rest. Dogs sleep sixteen hours out of twenty four
hours of the day. How do I know, Because my
boy's right over there to the right of me, and

(40:59):
he's napping right now. You already napped for four hours
already today. But when that dog mentality needed to come out,
they're always ready to go and they're always rested, So
those naps are crucial. And speaking of naps, where was
your favorite place to nap? Jewels? Because I know you
were always napping whenever you had a chance, But where
was your favorite place? And nap in Jillette Stadium.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Early in my career, I would go to the nap rooms,
and then later my career, I would go do I
would float and nap in the floats stations. I would
sleep in the saltwater pods and so like help me
recover after practice. But the nap is definitely crucial. Like
even if it was twenty minutes, fifteen minutes I tried

(41:41):
to get I would try to get all my work
in so I could get at least like a forty
minute so that you could just get that and then
right after, you know, pound a cold brew and like
try to wake up and not be cranky because you were.
I remember, like you would just get to that like
nap and then you had to wake up, and like
you'd hear fifty the nap room. There was like the

(42:03):
old locker room where the officials locker room, they'd have
like thirty beds and they'd all have curtains around. It
was like kind of like an opium Vietnamese den like
you see in all those movies and shit. You know,
you go like like almost like a inception when you'd
go to the drug spot where they wanted to put
the people to sleep, and they'd all be like lying down.

(42:25):
That's what it looked like at like the nap room
with like eight foot dudes. You'd see these big ass
fucking monster dudes that are all on these like twin beds,
half their bodies off, These large men trying to sleep
on these beds. It was crazy. Where'd you sleep, did you?
Where'd you now?

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Yeah, in the nap room jewels, you know, especially during training,
especially during training camp, whenever I had thirty minutes, I
would take a nap. I believe naps can recover you
more than a good night's sleep. If you're achy, you
got some bruises, you know, you got a little pain,
and you take a twenty minute deep power nap, you
can sometimes wake up and be ready to go and
all the aches and pains are gone, which is which

(43:02):
is special. That's why I'm a big believer in power
naps and the nap room. Once we kind of got
that new facility, a couple of years back, and the
upgraded that big time. There was about what six beds
in a row on each side, and I would just
go in the nap room. It'd be dark, and there'd
be alarms going off like crazy because everyone would be
waking up at different times. So that's kind of what

(43:23):
made it more difficult to nap. And also you don't
know who showered, you know who showers, you don't know
who's dirty at the moment, and everyone's using the clean
we're sharing. So I made sure I always put an
extra extra extra large hoodie on. I put put the
freaking hood over my head and then I just laid
on top of the bed and put my head on

(43:44):
the pillar and just fell asleep for about twenty five
minutes like this and just took an extreme power nap
and then I woke up and I was always ready
to go.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Did anyone abuse the nap room?

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Uh? Not that I know, Not that I know.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
I don't need. And they would replace the sheets after
every nap.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Hey would the nap Would the nap room technically be
like the fifty yard line? Is that what you're trying
to say? Juels? By abusing the nap room, remember you're
you you did it on the fifty yard line, so
instead of the fifty yard line, I did it in
the nap room.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
What are we talking about?

Speaker 2 (44:23):
I don't know. We're just talking some movie stuff out there.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Oh yeah, maybe maybe. Now what else we got we got?
Rabel was asked about doing media after he retires. His response,
as soon as I'm done with this, I'm going into
the witness protection plan.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
While I'm in the witness protection plan right now. And
I can tell you this, Rabel will always be doing
media because he's always going to be a coach in
the NFL. He loves coaching. You could tell he loves it,
So as long as he's coaching, he's going to be
doing media. So it's just going to be part of
his life forever. And he's a great coach, He's great
at it, and he's just a football guy. And I

(45:06):
heard his story back when he was in Tennessee is
that he had a cop in his office and he
slept overnight on his cop majority of the time. So
he didn't miss a beat while being the head coach
in Tennessee. And I'm sure it's going to be like
that as well with the New England Patriots, so his
wife hates him as a witness protection never season, he'll

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always be coaching. He'll always be doing media because he'll
always be coaching. Do you think he's going to be
more quotable this year than head coach up the Detroit Lions,
Dan Campbell.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
I mean he's he's always been pretty quotable. He's a
witty motherfucker. I think he's going to be up there.
It depends on if they're winning or losing. I mean,
either way, he could be up there, but I don't
think he'll be giving out good quotes if they're losing.
If you were to go into witness protection program, where
would you want to go.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
I'll go back to my Orca Jules. No one knew
me there and I could run around. It's a low
key island, a lot of good stuff to do, and
I would just swim in the ocean. When I see
that they're looking for me, I would just put my
Scooba gear on and just go diving with all the
sharks so I can just stay salty and they won't
be able to find me.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Dan Patrick says he's retiring here soon and he's moving
to Italy. Wouldn't be a bad place. I just I
would get a little I don't know. I mean the food, Yeah,
witness protection, you got. The food's got to be right.
And I tell you anywhere you ate in Italy, it's
just the Italians have the food in their Europe. I

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don't care what anyone says. You could say, you know France,
no they don't. You could say Spaton, no they don't,
and then all the others don't even get a spot
at the table. I love German food, but the Italians
any pasta insane Back to Patriot talk. Christian Gonzalez went

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out to the medical tent yesterday. Did he have a hammy?

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Something?

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Did you see it?

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Something went with his handy. I didn't see it. Personally,
I think it won't be too bad. Probably a grade one,
you know, which you don't really got to worry about. Actually,
he can get some rest now. It's good that he
got some reps already. He's been in camp for about
a week now, so it's not like he's been missing
and he's going to be right back to power when
he gets back. But a grade one is really nothing.

(47:23):
That's about two three weeks. He's gonna be ready for
week one, no doubt. But just make sure that he
comes back when he's full strength, because he's a huge
piece of the New England Patriots defense.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Without a doubt. Now is this his first handy?

Speaker 2 (47:38):
I think he pulled his hammy. I think a couple
of years a couple of years ago.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
I don't like hammies. If it's multiple hammies, I don't
like them. These fast guys get them hammies.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Hey, you know who you got to call?

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Jules who got hit Alex Guerrero.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Give mister Miagi in that handyhop. I'm telling you, there
you go.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
You'll never have a handy problem again. He tore his
laborm in his hip, right, That's what it was. I
just hope it doesn't linger. You gotta, like Rob said,
you gotta keep that thing down.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
I also feel bad for Diggs because that battle brings
Digs up to strength coming back from his acl You know,
I mean some of the best battles. The most growth
I had is when we had Revis. You know, you
had a good corner to go against or a keep
to leave. You know, when you got to go against
those guys every day, you know, it made you a

(48:34):
better player because they were going to eat you eat
your lunch if you gave him from sloppy shit. But
that sucks. We got to get him back.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Well, let's talk about the guys that are looking good
in Patriots training camp right now. We got Drake May.
He's saying all the right things everyone was saying. Is
that he's taking a big leap from year one, and
Coach Belichick always said that as well. He's always said
the biggest improvement that he sees with his players is
from year one to year two, and Drake May has

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been doing that. As Peter Schrager reported, a good old friend,
Peter Schrager shout out to the shregster baby, Stefon Diggs,
full go, no limitations. That's huge for the Patriots offense.
Pop doug crazy, That's crazy, no doubt about that. Pop
Dougle looks great too. He looks phenomenal, looks like he
hasn't missed a step since he's torn his ACL And

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then you got Pop Douglass, a consistent playmaker. He's making
some impressive catches, which Drake May is gonna need. And
then Trayveon Henderson he's looking explosive and if you're explosive
as a running back. That's huge because boom, you can explode,
and being in the NFL, explosiveness is actually probably better
than you know, being fast. At some points, I would

(49:49):
say explosiveness is more used than just being a fast player.
So that's crucial to have a guy out of the
backfield with that, you know, with that quality.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
I think Pop Douglas's gonna have a big year. I
can see him have eighty an eighty catch season. Hendrickson
out of the backfield if he's as smart as everyone
says that. We've heard all draft report, scouting report, every
analytic they say, this guy is like knows the protections.
That's like a great fit for a Josh McDaniels offense.

(50:18):
I mean, we've had running back Shane Vereen have thirteen
catches in the Super Bowl. James White had fifteen catches
in the Super Bowl. They all they both came from
Kevin Folk, who always had a massive amount of production. Like,
if you got that guy, that's a huge help for
Drake May because those matchups that you can get running
backs on when you get him on the linebackers, those

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little sproll routes that we used to run all the time,
or the option routes out of the backfield. That's easy throwing,
an easy reading for the quarterbacks. That's huge. Stefon Diggs
be in full speed five months out of the ACL
that's that's that's insane. And he looks full speed. He
looks great, and I'm excited to see Drake May. I'm

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excited to see Drake May with Josh McDaniels in the
protection scheme. I'm excited to see how much he can
digest of Josh's offense because you'll be able to see
on how they call the game, on how much the
quarterback is able to digest, and how much they're all
playing cohesive. Everything I've heard, he looks good and he
digests offense and he can retain stuff. That's all what

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you want to hear from your quarterback. This is all
the time where we're going to start to see where
our team gets built. So I'm excited for this year.
We didn't even get into the defense. Offensive line that's
still in the limbo jewels. If the offensive line as
a whole cannot protect Drake May like how they need to,
that everything can crumble.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
So the offensive line needs to stay intact. Big dog
Campbell needs to come through.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Yeah, the Garrett Bent Bradberry.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
It's up in the air right now too. From what
I'm here training camp, it's up in the air. They
need to come.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
They're saying Cole Strange looks pretty good. I mean they
got guys Morgan Moses, I mean he's he's a Vet.
They got guys Will Campbell. Also, you know you got Robinson,
the fourth round pick last year. Doug Maron. He's probably
dialing up past protections with the Blooney sandwich in his
hand right now, big bloney guy. I remember what listening

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a part of my take once they had him like
eating Blooney or something. But I'm excited to see what
these guys do.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Man, I got a question for you, Jules. I mean,
all these training camp clips that are all over x
when you sign onto your account all over Instagram? Are
they overrated? Do you get excited by these clips? What
do you think of them? Well?

Speaker 1 (52:45):
I can always tell what like period or where the
if the quarter like some of these clips where people
get all excited when the quarterback scrambles in the seven
on seven and rolls to his right and probably would
have been sacked or through the ballway and throws a bomb.
Two guy running a second round, Like I don't ever
get excited for those. You can kind of always see

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I get excited for when like it's eleven on eleven
and you see the quarterback you can see him click
through his progression and makes a nice throat like that's
when I get excited. You can kind of seeing in
the drill they're doing or what kind of practice they're
practicing for my excitement levels to get excited. Does that

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make any sense?

Speaker 2 (53:29):
That made a little sense. All right, let's get into
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(54:11):
And this week it's a two thousand and twenty five
Hall of Fame and fl football class. So we got
to talk about these legends getting inducted into the Hall
this week. Jules, who do We got to start it off?

Speaker 1 (54:29):
Eric Allen cornerback from nineteen eighty eight to two thousand
and one, played with the Philadelphia Eagles, the New Orleans Saints,
and the Raiders. Two times second team All Pro, six
time Pro Bowler, fifty four career interceptions, nine defensive touchdowns,

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nineteenth year of eligibility. I remember him as a Raider.
I mean I think he retired the the year they
lost the Super Bowl or yeah, yeah, no, the year
they lost the Snowball. He was in that game, I think.
And then I mean he was always just a playmaker.
He was a little early in my watching football days though,

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but watching you know, the highlights over the years, I mean,
he's a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
I got a question for you, Jules. A lot of
guys get into the Hall of Fame first ballt hall
of Famers make it their second year or within the
first five years they get in. This guy's been eligible.
Eric Allen has been eligible for nineteen years. Now, do
you think it would be cool like cooler to be
into the Hall of Fame within the first five years,

(55:41):
or like Eric Allen, about twenty years later you get
a call and you're inducted to the Hall of Fame.
Like your kids might have not even known that you
played the game of football, and then you're telling them
that you went into the Hall of Fame. You're going
into the Hall of Fame, the NFL Hall of Fame,
and they're like, Daddy, you play football, Like like what

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would that be? Like?

Speaker 1 (56:06):
I think you're just excited.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Regardless, Jules, what I'm trying to say, I'm just trying.
I'm just gonna sum it up real quick, is that
if you go into the Hall of Fame ten, fifteen,
twenty years later, you get a retrospective of your whole
entire career once again. You get to relive it once again.
That's kind of legendary to me. Like if you go

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in right when you're done playing, it's like it was
just yesterday and you don't get to relive all those
exciting moments again. Twenty years down the road, you get
to enjoy that whole entire process again. Is what I'm
trying to say.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
I get you. It's like, it's kind of like when
you have your birthday right next to Hanukah or Christmas,
like you'd rather have that thing spaced out so you
can have some gifts coming to you in May or June,
so then you have a little extra time to then
have perspective, oh time for a couple more presents.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
So that's all I'm just trying to say is going
into the Hall of Fame twenty years later, you get
to relive your whole entil your career, and it feels
special once against.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
You unless you're like a randy guy that or t
O that should have been first ballot and didn't. I
don't think they went first ballot like that. Those kind
of guys can get mad. But I don't know. I
think I think Eric. I think Eric Allen is probably happy,
definitely happy, excited.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Oh, definitely excited.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
No doubt who else is going in?

Speaker 2 (57:33):
All right? We got Jared Allen defensive end. From two
thousand and four to two thousand and fifteen.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
He played in.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Kansas City, Minnesota, Chicago, Carolina. Two time sack leader in
two thousand and seven and twenty eleven, four times First
Team All Pro, five time Pro bowler. I mean he's
in the Vikings Ring of Honor record of most career
safeties as well, which is a unique, unique record. He
has four of those, which is really really collibee career

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safety of my career, and that was in high school.
I thought it was really cool. I'll remember it for
the rest of my life. And he had one of
the coolest SAX celebrations of all time, or is it
the coolest SAX celebration of all time?

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Jules was it the rabbit of the hat he pulled
out and he.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Has the greatest number of all times as well. I
thought he was the coolest dude when I got into
the NFL in twenty ten as a rookie and I'm like,
I get the face off as Jared Allen and I'm
putting my hand down and he's number sixty nine right
in front of me. I just thought it was super cool.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
If he came out in like social media time, he'd
be like a different Like he was so funny. He's
a like hilarious dude, and like when you listen to
his interviews, his antics in the locker room, he was
just always a fun dude that you know you wanted
to have beers with, Like he's the perfect guy to
have Coors light with and or multiple Corps lights with

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on like a big plot of land with a bunch
of toys. Like he's got like Matt Light vibes where
he's you know what I mean. They're just weird, funny
ass dudes that are like smart as fuck, but like
also like just insane football players. And I could be
completely wrong. I don't. I don't really know Jared Allen,
but that's my vibe.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Also, Jared Allen seems like the guy that whatever he's doing,
it just seems like it's gonna be fun and cool
if you're doing it with Jared Allen. For example, he
almost made the Olympics team on the USA the Olympics
USA curling team he almost made. I mean, how cool
is that? Like, like curling isn't that cool, But Jared
Allen curling on the Olympics team is cool.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
But that's him. That's like him making fun of the world.
I bet, like, look at his number is sixty nine.
He's like, this is an Olympic sport. I'm gonna train
to do this, and like that was him, like probably
throwing shade at someone. Like one of his boys got
hammered and said, I bet you can't be an Olympian.

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He's like, fuck you, I'll be an Olympian. They're both
ship face, probably hammered. They made a bet, and he's
like had to go try to become an Olympian because
of it. I bet you. That's something along that line
is how he became an Olympia. Him and one of
his boys, him and some friend probably had like some
kind of bet one or lost and joined the Olympic team.

(01:00:20):
That's how cool he is. He's a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Next Guyonio Antonio Gates one of my favorite titles.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Let me ken state.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
All right, fine, I understand he went.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
He went, all right, you go ahead. He didn't play football.
He didn't play football. You get all right?

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
All right, that's cool. That's fair. Then that's fair. We
got one of my favorite tight ends of all time,
one of the most smoothest route runners to ever play
the game. One of the slipperiest route runners to play
as well. Antonio Gates tight end of the San Diego
Chargers from two thousand and three to twenty eighteen. Undrafted.

(01:01:06):
Was a basketball player in college. Came from Kent State,
obviously where Julian Edelman played. He was a three time
first team All Pro, eight time Pro bowler over eleven
thousand receiving yards. He holds the record for most touchdowns
by a tight end score with one hundred and sixteen touchdowns.

(01:01:27):
And was really special is he got LT inducting him
into the Hall of Fame, And Antonio Gates was an
inspiration to myself. He was an inspiration to many of
the tight ends out there. I was proud to see
Antonio Gates get inducted to the Hall of Fame because
it doesn't just represent Antonio Gates. It represents tight ends

(01:01:48):
as a whole. So it gives that recognition to our
position of how special being a tight end is. And
just watching his game, he was a solid blocker in
the run game. He was a team player. He came
through crucial moments for the Chargers whenever they need a
big play from him. And I just loved watching how

(01:02:09):
good of a route runner he was. And he elevated
the tight end position to a whole another level and
put it on the map.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Where does he rank amongst the greatest tight ends of
all I.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Always put Antonio Gates in the top five, no doubt
about that. He has the most touchdown receptions of all
time as a tight end. Two in the top five
tight ends. It's kind of hard to like pinpoint where
the top five belong because if you really look at it,
in the top five, every tight end the top five

(01:02:41):
has their own special trait in their own category of
what they did in the past game. You know, I'm
talking about taking away all the blocking that that involves.
You know, that involves what a tight end does. But
if we're just looking at the receptions and what they
did in the past game, the top five tight end
are hard to kind of place, you know, and it

(01:03:04):
all depends on how you're looking at it and viewing
it as well. But he's definitely top five and just
one of the one of the best of all time.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
He is, man, it was so fun to get to
watch him. Almost Tony Gonzalez did with the whole running
basketball routes in football, but like he really was playing
basketball on the football field. Like if you watch him
run routes, like how he'd shake fools up at the
top of the route or he'd just body you up,

(01:03:34):
or he would just beat you with quickness like he
was an ultimate matchup nightmare. Couldn't put anyone on him.
They did the whole Remember when they vised you, Yes,
they vised him. They did that to him too, Like
he he's he went to my college. Got to spend
some time with He's a fucking awesome dude, and he

(01:03:55):
is a Hall of Famer. Lastly, Sterling Sharp receiver and
eighteen eighty eight to nineteen ninety four for the Packers,
three time first team All Pro, five time Pro bowler,
three time reception leader eighty nine, ninety two, ninety three
receiving yard leader in ninety two, career cut short due

(01:04:16):
to a neck injury. His brother's you know, another great
Shannon Sharp. Hall of Famer. They will become the first
brothers inducted together. Shannon will be introducing the twenty six
year eligibility of his brother, who's finally getting into the Hall. Now.
I've never I don't remember. I don't really remember watching

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Sterling as a kid, because it was right before I
started watching when he was dicing up the NFL. But
from what I hear from anyone that I respect talk
about the game, they said he was just the man.
And even when you listen Shannon Sharp talk about his

(01:05:02):
older brother, I mean, he gives so many, so many
roses in flowers and praise to his brother, and Shannon
is like one of the He's probably up there and
the greatest at his position too. Like it's just it's
it's crazy that his career had to get shortened due

(01:05:22):
to a neck injury. But from what I heard, if
he kept on playing, they're saying this guy was like insane, insane.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Shannon I always said too. I've heard him say plenty
of times. It's that his older brother was always the
better football player than he was.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Yeah, I've heard it too.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Yeah, but shout out to Sterling, you know, finally getting
you know, making it to the Hall of Fame. It's
unfortunate that he had that knuck injury. I mean, he
had to stop playing after six years, But it just
shows what type of player that he was that he
just made it into the NFL Hall of Fame and
he only played six years in the league. So he

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was an absolute beast out there. Three time leader as
I think, three time reception leader in the NFL when
he was playing, just an absolute, absolute beast. Out there
and probably just as Jack as Shannon as well. I
mean that family, they're sharp. Their bodies are sharp. I
can tell you that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
They are sharp. Now the Jared story, the Jared Allen
story trying to make it to Olympics. I guess his
pursuit had started as a wager with a friend about
qualifying for a PGA Tour event. However, after seeing the
story of Eddie the Eagle, an unlikely Olympic sky ski

(01:06:38):
jumper from England, Allen set his sights on qualifying for
an even bigger stage. Allen first looked at giving badminton
a shot, but after doing some research, forty one year
old realized way too much moving at that age. Badminton
is hard, very hard. I tried. I tried to beat
my coach once, who was a badminton coach. He beat

(01:06:59):
my ass for like three straight hours and he had
no athleticism and juco Alan said, I read the rules
of curling. It was like the winners have to buy
the losers beer. Most people start in their forties. I
was like, right up my alley. So I don't know
if I heard that story or if I literally just
manifested that in my head.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Jewels, you're a psychics, You're a spot on.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
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I'm excited to get into what about you, Rob.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
I'm really excited to get into it, Jewels. It's all
about football season. I mean, we got baseball right now,
they're on their one hundredth and twentieth game. You know
it's cool what this is kind of meaningless right now.
You know there's no basketball, there's no hockey. We need
football season back. The world needs football season. America needs
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